The School of Greatness - How To Overcome Your Past To Manifest Your Ideal Future

Episode Date: April 18, 2025

Get my New York Times Bestselling book, Make Money Easy!Your mind holds the keys to create the life you want, but most people stay locked in their past instead of manifesting their future. Today, thre...e transformation giants—Dr Joe Dispenza, Gabby Bernstein, and Eric Thomas—share their unique approaches to breaking free from limitations. Dr Joe reveals how our bodies can't distinguish between emotions created by experience versus thought alone, making your feelings the catalyst for your future. Gabby introduces her revolutionary four-step "check-in" process to heal wounded parts of yourself that block manifestation, sharing a personal transformation that led to instant synchronicities. Meanwhile, ET delivers the raw truth about taking responsibility, showing how the moment you stop blaming others and "take the keys back" to your life is when everything changes. This episode provides practical wisdom for anyone ready to overcome their past, heal internal wounds, and manifest their greatest future.Dr Joe’s Books:Breaking The Habit of Being Yourself: How to Lose Your Mind and Create a New OneBecoming SupernaturalYou Are the Placebo: Making Your Mind MatterGabby’s Books:The Universe Has Your Back: Transform Fear to FaithSelf HelpSuper Attractor: Methods for Manifesting a Life beyond Your Wildest DreamsEric’s books:You Owe You: Ignite Your Power, Your Purpose, and Your WhyGreatness Is Upon You: Laying the FoundationIn this episode you will learn:Why most people find it easier to believe in their past than their future and how to reverse this patternThe four-step check-in process to heal wounded parts that block manifestationHow to identify and transform the emotions of lack that prevent abundanceWhy taking back "the keys" to your life is the essential first step to transformationHow to create a harmonious relationship with your wounded parts through compassionWhy finding your personal North Star is crucial for sustaining motivation and purposeFor more information go to https://www.lewishowes.com/1760For more Greatness text PODCAST to +1 (614) 350-3960More SOG episodes we think you’ll love:Dr Joe Dispenza – greatness.lnk.to/1702SCGabby Bernstein  – greatness.lnk.to/1714SCEric Thomas – greatness.lnk.to/1696SC Get more from Lewis! Get my New York Times Bestselling book, Make Money Easy!Get The Greatness Mindset audiobook on SpotifyText Lewis AIYouTubeInstagramWebsiteTiktokFacebookX

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Starting point is 00:00:36 this episode on the School of Greatness. Why do you think so many people lack the energy to create the vision, the dream that they want? Is it something they're missing? Is it something they don't have access to or they lack that energy that heals and draws to them their dreams? I think that, you know, we live in chronic disbelief. What if the truth was that you're greater than you think,
Starting point is 00:01:09 more powerful than you know, more unlimited than you could ever dream? If that was the truth, that you are the creator of your life, you have to start, if you believe that to be the truth, then you have to believe in yourself. And your belief in yourself must be earned.
Starting point is 00:01:29 It must be earned. And the only way that we can believe in a future is when we feel the emotion associated with it. Because if you feel the emotion associated with it, your body is your unconscious mind. It's so objective, it does not know the difference between the real life experience that's creating that emotion and the emotion that you're creating by thought alone. And so you're giving your body a taste emotionally of the future.
Starting point is 00:02:00 And the stronger the emotion you feel, the more you remember to that future. And you literally are embossing the circuitry for you to believe in it more. So, if we default and become the victim of our life, and we say that some person or some circumstance or some condition is causing me to feel this way and to think this way. The moment we become angry or frustrated or guilty or unworthy or afraid or anxious, we can't believe in that future any longer. Those emotions are associated with past memories and those emotions cause us to behave
Starting point is 00:02:41 as if we were in our past, make choices that are equal to our past and believe in our past. And more people believe in their past than they believe in their future. And it's so much easier to forget your vision of the future than to remember it. And so if that's the truth, then if you understood that this emotion that you're feeling is really a creative emotion, living in fear and living in anger and living in hostility and hatred and judgment and resentment, that has nothing to do with your future, it has everything to do with the past. And so the problem is, is that we get addicted
Starting point is 00:03:26 to those emotions that keep us connected to the past. And there's a story that goes with that past. And so many people believe in that story and why not believe in a different story? And it usually takes crisis or trauma or disease or diagnosis or loss for people to finally make up their mind to change. But that default that takes place so seamlessly
Starting point is 00:03:55 when we feel the emotions of our past causes us to think the same way, to act the same way, and to feel the same way. And how you think, how you act, and how you feel is called your personality. And your personality creates your personal reality. That's it. That's it. So the present personality who's sitting here today called you has created the present personal reality called your life. That's the truth. So if you wanted to create the present personal reality called your life. That's the truth.
Starting point is 00:04:25 So if you wanted to create a new personal reality, a new life, you would have to change your personality. And the first step in that is becoming conscious of your unconscious thoughts, those thoughts that say, I can't, it's too hard, I'll never change, it's my ex's fault, it's whatever. You know. It's all your ex. Or if you really truly wanted to be a happy person, you would have to stop complaining.
Starting point is 00:04:52 You would have to stop blaming, you'd have to stop allowing your environment to control how you're feeling and thinking. And if you truly wanted to become a new personality, you would have to decide that the emotion of lack cannot belong in an abundant person. Oh, this is where the rubber hits the road now. Because how could you believe in a future that you haven't seen yet? And the end product of an experience
Starting point is 00:05:20 in three-dimensional reality is called an emotion. And so most people wait for their wealth to feel abundant. They're waiting for their new relationship to feel love. They're waiting for their success to feel empowerment. They're waiting for their healing to feel wholeness or gratitude. That's the old model of reality. So you've got to trade that emotion of your past and that story has got to go with it. And when you overcome your emotions you master your creations. And that's freeing the body from the past. So the person who wants to become wealthy,
Starting point is 00:06:08 they got to romance wealth. Romance it. They have to romance it and you have to start thinking about how wealthy person would think. How a wealthy person would act. How wealthy person would feel and you would have to become that personality and that personality really should begin to create some change in your personal reality, you know, the synchronicities that are not just parking spaces, you know, not that stuff. But the bigger stuff that would stretch your belief so that when you see the synchronicity, all of a sudden you're like, oh my God,
Starting point is 00:06:39 I created that, is that possible that I actually created that? Now you start believing more that you're the creator of your reality instead of the victim of your reality and that's the truth. And you cannot experience that truth unless you step in the realm of creation. And in order for you to arrive at that wealth, you have to make a very clear decision that that person who wants the wealth and who is in lack of having it is going to have to make a lot of changes
Starting point is 00:07:13 to finally run into that goal or vision of their wealthy. You can't create a new personal reality as the same person, honey. You gotta become someone else. That means you got to give up some aspect of those unconscious thoughts, behaviors, and emotions that are programmed because we do them so much and think that way. And that's the hard part of change. And people do the work. I want to be really clear. They don't do the meditations to heal.
Starting point is 00:07:42 I want to be really clear. They don't do the meditations to heal. They do the meditations to change. And understand that when I change, my body will change. My life will change. That's the experiment they're involved in. So this energy, this feeling that you have, the fundamental question is when you leave this place, can you take it with you every day? Could you remember this feeling and could you bring it up on your
Starting point is 00:08:09 own? Ah, now you're becoming the creator of your life because now you'll believe more in that future and less in your past. And then you'll default just like we all do but how many times do you have to forget until you stop forgetting and start remembering? That's called the moment of change. And that's catching yourself from defaulting seamlessly back to that old personality that was been programmed for us to be victims. If you say to someone, why are you so unhappy? Why are you so mad?
Starting point is 00:08:40 Why are you so angry? Oh, it's that person. It's that circumstance that's causing me to feel this way and think this way. Well, that's an unconscious program. A person is saying that someone in their outer world or some condition is controlling. It's controlling their feelings, controlling their thoughts. Anything that's controlling us, we're victims to. And that's got to change.
Starting point is 00:09:08 victims to. And that's got to change. So then to overcome victimization is worth more than all the wealth in the world, because that's exactly what creates the wealth. That's exactly what creates the health. It's the overcoming process that is the becoming process. And that's how you arrive at that vision. And this energy is the energy that takes you there. And you got to be able to bring that up on your own. That means you got to come out of your resting state and that when coming out of your resting state and not allowing or waiting for someone or something to do it for you but doing it on your own, wow, there's sovereignty and there's empowerment in that. That's how any person arrives at their dream. They just don't let their energy drop. And if they do, they get back into that state again,
Starting point is 00:09:48 and they earn the belief in themselves. First off, what are the emotions of lack so that people can make a distinction and say, I don't think about lack, I'm not in lack, but maybe they are based on certain emotions. So what are the emotions that cause us to feel in our bodies lacking as opposed to abundant? And caveat, how much of those lacking emotions can we have on a daily basis and still be abundant? That's a good question.
Starting point is 00:10:19 I mean, is it 50% victimhood and we're stuffing to be good? Is it angry 20% of the time? Is it? All right, how much like how much wiggle room can we give ourselves grace and still I'm still gonna be able to get my dream I so what are the emotions of lack and how much time? Can we really allow ourselves to be in a state of frustration or sadness and still be abundant? Yeah. Oh got it But we create based on lack We create based on separation You see the sports car you see the wardrobe you see the scene you see the vacation and you see that that
Starting point is 00:11:01 experience that you want Your brain naturally goes, oh God, that would be so wonderful to be in that reality, to be in that future. Based on the lack of not having it, in the plane of duality and separation, the lack causes us to dream about having it. So the natural thing is to dream of a new possibility
Starting point is 00:11:25 based on your understanding that you don't have that experience yet. You understand? Yes. So then now that vision of that future, the brain naturally creates for the passionate person that vision where they're seeing that future, they put themselves in that future. And when they do that, they feel the emotion of that future. And they're actually doing that by thought alone.
Starting point is 00:11:54 So once they feel the feeling of that future, they can believe in that future because they felt it. Interesting. Right, and they'll tell you there's nobody or no one or no circumstances. I know that I could create that. And you've all done it. Everybody in this room has done something great.
Starting point is 00:12:14 And you kept that vision alive in your mind and you got your behaviors to match your intentions. You got your actions equal to your thoughts. You got your mind and body working together. You stopped thinking certain thoughts like, I can't, it's too hard, I don't feel like it, I'll never change. You had to make different choices
Starting point is 00:12:34 and the hardest part about change is not making the same choice as the day before and that means you're gonna get uncomfortable. You stopped doing the same things, the same habits, sitting on the couch, whatever it was. You didn't have time to complain, you know, that stuff. You start staying away from the experiences with certain people and certain circumstances. You didn't want to live that anymore. And you had to really get beyond your emotional feelings and do it anyway.
Starting point is 00:13:04 And we do this all the time and then you run and all of a sudden the synchronicities start to happen and everybody's experienced this. And next thing you know, the experience occurs and you feel the emotion from that experience and it takes away the lack or separation from not having it. So the emotion is the end product of the experience in three dimensional reality.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Do you say it again? The emotion is what? The end product of the experience is the payoff. The payoff from the experience, having the experience, is the emotion that is the consequence of the experience and that emotion is all the sensory information that you're perceiving. Everything you're seeing, hearing, smelling smelling, and tasting, and feeling. All that information is rushing back to your brain in jungles of neurons or organizing into networks, and when they string into place another part of the brain called the chemical brain, the limit brain, the emotional brain begins to make chemicals to produce that emotion.
Starting point is 00:14:01 And that emotion then takes away the lack and now you say I created that and then you go to the next one. Now you can get really good at doing this. You could study, you could get schooled, you can get coached, you can learn from your mistakes, you could get disciplined and you can accumulate more things. You can get better at doing that. But there is another way to create where you don't have to do so much. And those are laws that transcend
Starting point is 00:14:35 just typical Newtonian laws. And what if you were to feel the emotion of the future before it happened every single day, remembered that feeling and that feeling was for your heart. To fall in love with your life, to fall in love with your vision, you'd have to awaken that heart. If you could do that and marry that with the vision of your future, I promise you it'll be easier for you to make choices
Starting point is 00:14:59 to step into that future. I guarantee you, you'll believe in it and do things to advance yourself into that future. You step right into it. So then if it doesn't happen when we want it to happen, you know what I mean? Like people stop me and they say, well I've been creating my reality for three days, nothing happened. And I say to them, you're not that good. Look, I don't know what else to tell you. You're not that good. Or they'll say, how come I'm not living in Mallorca
Starting point is 00:15:32 with my two dogs and my lover? I'm like, because the person who's living in Mallorca looks nothing like you. Like, that's not what the person looks like. So when it doesn't happen, the lack becomes greater. Uh huh. And then what?
Starting point is 00:15:51 And because lack is separation. And separation is based on time. And so when you imagine that vision of your future, you're putting your attention in a future reality. You have one point of consciousness, that's your future, and you are making the choice from this point of consciousness that that's where you want to go. And the distance between those two is called time. So time is based on lack or separation.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Are you with me? Yes. And when it doesn't happen, we start to feel more lack and more separation. So we start to force outcomes. So we try harder. Try harder. We manipulate, we compete, we fight, because trying is what you do when you're in lack. And so the person's living in separation their whole entire life, waiting for the event to occur to take away the feeling of not having it. And it could be their whole entire life. Wow. And that becomes a program. So then you ask them, why are you this way? Well, because life isn't working for me. That's the
Starting point is 00:16:58 belief that they have. That's unfair. And they'll have a whole story that goes along with it. and they'll have a whole story that goes along with it. So then, if you could fall in love with your future, and the heart produces a very strong magnetic signature, and you get your brain coherent and working really well, that intention that you have has a signal in the field. And we've measured this. And so then if you could begin to experiment by changing your energy, could it change my life? That's the
Starting point is 00:17:31 experiment. I'm just curious. If you started doing it, that you could actually shorten the distance between the thought of what you want and the experience of having it. And all of a sudden you're no longer going anywhere to do it it's kind of coming to you. Now if you experiment like that and then you are successful at it and you start seeing the synchronicities I guarantee you you're gonna keep it up. Yes. I guarantee you it's not gonna be like oh god I gotta go fall in love with my future now. It's not gonna be like that you're gonna be Whoa, like it's happening and like whatever that is that I don't know what it is, but you're changing your energy.
Starting point is 00:18:12 And so to become a creator in your life and truly, truly practice it, if you're feeling the feeling of your future, you can't look for it. How could you look for it if you feel like it already happened? And we cannot attract anything in our life that we feel separate from. And that means you got to maintain that modified state of mind and body to keep your vision alive. And if you do, the experiment should be hey, hey, I'm doing this to experiment. Is it the truth? I'm doing this to experiment is it the truth I'm doing it for the truth to take the belief and actually behave that way to ultimately become the creator of my life and so that you fall in that zone you fall into
Starting point is 00:18:57 that flow and now you're gonna you're gonna want to feel that feeling more than you're gonna want to feel your victimization and that's when you no longer belong to your past, that's when you belong to your future. Abundance is just one experience and the infinite number of experiences I believe that we could have as creators. And people just, they just forget all the wonderful things they did or became when they when they created that abundance. And I've sat with billionaires, I've sat with them. And you know what they say to me? They say, they've said it more than once. We are miserable.
Starting point is 00:19:31 We are in agony. You know why? Because they can't be present enough to enjoy a sunset, even though they're on a yacht. They can't be present enough to enjoy a great meal. They just can't be present with their families. They can't be present. And so, like, that's not the life you want.
Starting point is 00:19:58 What you want, abundant people want to be free. Yes. That's what they really want. Free to do it, right? And then, and to really, if your model of abundance is that you have so much more than you need, that you would give it away. That would be an abundant person, yes or no?
Starting point is 00:20:23 Yes. And so your experience of abundance in the experiment called life can be way more than being an angry, abundant person. If you can create a harmonious relationship from the higher self of you to the wounded self, parts of you, then things are gonna start to flow better in your life. Oh, well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:47 In every area. Well, cause think about it like this, like my controller part, I've done so much work with her. You can gender these parts of you, they have no gender, they could have the opposite gender. It doesn't like sort of whatever is intuitive for you. My parts are female. So I have that controller part that you knew for so long,
Starting point is 00:21:02 or the anxiety part, right? Even to think about all where we were maybe 10 years ago in these conversations to where I am with you right now, and how much more self-energy you feel in this moment. It's gonna make me cry. It means so much to me that you've been there with me. It's been like what, 13, 14 years? 14 years. 15 years maybe,
Starting point is 00:21:19 since I've been here. 2008, I met you. And when you first met me, I was like parts on fire, right? Like, like on literally on fire. I was a workaholic, really extreme, really extreme. I was sober, but like workaholism. I was just extreme anxiety, didn't know that I had trauma.
Starting point is 00:21:35 So I was living in hypervigilance. I was so scared all the time. I was so controlling. I was, it was just like, I was doing, you can still be going through hard things and do beautiful things in the world. Yeah, you still get results in life. Yeah, and do good, but you can, but you might be having a lot of struggle,
Starting point is 00:21:52 right? And so as a result of this, this model and what I'm going to teach everybody today and living this and developing this and practicing this and every day being, checking in with these parts of me, checking with these parts of me, I've unburdened them. And so it's not that they go away is that they're not extreme anymore.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Interesting. So the parts that were wounded are still inside of you. They're no longer wounded. You feel them. They're in their, they're in their beautifully developed chrysalis, their new, for instance, the part of me that was a controller. I mean, that part did good things, right?
Starting point is 00:22:26 She wrote 10 books in 14 years, right? Took action, got things done. Yes. But now she can be in the flow, right? Like now she can be like, I don't have to force my way to like get this thing to there. I'm like, Oh, you know what, Louis, like I'm going to be in LA. Like, does that work? I'll be there.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Like I can show up with an energy. She's, she's, she's, she's on top, but she's, but she's trusting. She's not forcing, not forcing anything. She's just relaxed, like in the presence. So it's still like, so it's like a really great quality to have that control part present because she gets things done, but without craziness. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Chaos. she gets things done, but without craziness, right? Right, right, right. Chaos. Without chaos. So these parts of us that once controlled us or hurt us to try to protect us, because they all had an intention to serve us, but they didn't help the self really at our highest self.
Starting point is 00:23:18 They're blocking self. They're blocking self, but they're an attempt to try to protect us. Totally. These parts of us, when we can have a relationship, a harmonious relationship with them through healing and mending those wounds, then we can use them for good. That's great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:32 You're so great at like digesting and bringing it back. Yeah, it's beautiful. That self right there in action, clarity. Clarity is one of those qualities of self. So you have such a good job of listening, thinking, pulling it together and bringing it back. And it sounds like we could, you know, by doing the self. So you have such a good job of listening, thinking, pulling it together and bringing it back. And it sounds like we, we could, you know, by doing the self help work, um, and by following this four step process that we're to cover in a second, and just going
Starting point is 00:23:52 through the book, it sounds like when we can start to have a different relationship with these parts of us that have caused us pain and suffering, but also try to protect us, if we can start to have a new relationship by mending those relationships, it can get a lot better, but it doesn't mean those things could come back at some point if we don't keep having a relationship with them in a healthy way. So you might be six months, I feel better, but then something triggers you and you go back to the wounded part of you that says, I don't feel safe.
Starting point is 00:24:20 You need to control this. You need to protect this. You need to be a perfectionist in this moment, whatever it is, hypervigilance. And so it's a, it's a constant relationship and a conversation of checking in, it sounds like. It's called the check-in process. Okay. So check in.
Starting point is 00:24:32 All right, here we go. And I like that because everybody has a few minutes to check in, right. Or a few seconds to check in throughout the day. And the simplicity of it being this four steps of checking in with the part makes it such that you can have this relationship to the part rather than why are you doing this? It's why the pain, right?
Starting point is 00:24:59 That's like what God Brahmato says, not why the addiction, why the pain. And so by every moment when you notice a trigger or you have this space in your body to like see, oh, you know, I'm out of alignment right now. In those moments checking in are these moment to moment experiences of presence with bringing self to these parts. So I'll break it down for you.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Give me a specific example in your life that may be a part of you that comes up sometimes that causes you anxiety or stress or- And how I would do the steps. Yeah, your team are like, oh, Gabby's in that mode. Her part of her, you know, is coming out in this moment. You know, okay. They're watching right now, they're like,
Starting point is 00:25:44 oh, shoot. Isn't she showing off? She's being a perfectionist or she's over controlling or she's not, whatever it is her, you know, is coming out in this moment, you know, okay, they're watching right now. They're like, Oh shoot, she's over-controlling or she's not whatever it is. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So whatever that part is for you that maybe is tended to come up a lot in the past, can you give me an example of how you could use this while you're sharing what these four steps are? Okay. So the, the, the, the protector that's freaking out, right.
Starting point is 00:26:02 She, uh, she's freaking out cause something isn't going the way she wants, right? So she's the freaking out protector. Actually doing a lot of work with her in therapy right now, so it's nice. And I do IFS therapy, so of course. And she's having a freak out, like, you know, some email isn't good or like the things aren't working as fast,
Starting point is 00:26:21 the team is not working as fast as possible or if she feels like, she has a burdened belief, right? This freak out girl, her belief is, if I don't do it, nobody else will. Mm. Or zing. Zing. And so she is maybe just like, and she also has another, and I'm cursing a lot,
Starting point is 00:26:38 but just bleep me, okay? But she has another phrase that she says, which is like, what the fuck is going on here? And when I think about her, I think about, okay, so let me give you the check-in process. So let's say I notice she's coming in, she's showing up, and I'm like, uh-oh, I notice her.
Starting point is 00:26:55 I have enough awareness to be like, she's here, she needs help, so I need self to help, self help me. I'll say that again. I need self to help, self help me. I'll say that again. I need self to help, self help me. I have that awareness. I choose to check in. Step one, choose to check in. Make a choice.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Yes, because remember, parts are like little children. So if you try to force something on a little child, like if I try to go to Ollie and say to him, bro, what the hell is going on? You seem upset, let's talk about it. But he's like, yeah, mommy, like get away mommy, right? So there has to be some buy-in, okay? So there's some buy-in and I'm gonna choose to check in.
Starting point is 00:27:38 So is that the adult self choosing to check in or is that the child self choosing to check in? It's both, okay? So it's the child self-choosing to check in? It's both. Okay. So it's, it's the choice. Both choosing to connect. The choice is itself like quality, but the part has to make the choice. So it's like what you said with your son, if he's not willing to reciprocate, like saying, let's talk about what's going on.
Starting point is 00:27:57 And he's like, no, screw you mommy or whatever he's saying. Then that's not a check-in. Both parts need to check in. Yeah. It has to be my presence, the self, and his willingness. Willingness to receive or talk. Openness, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Got it, okay. So choosing- Not that your son would say, screw you, mommy, but I'm just saying- You never know. Yeah, yeah. You never know. They would say 16, yeah, yeah. If he was 16 years old, they might say things like this. He would say, screw you, mommy, but I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:28:20 So who makes you think of like Cartman? Do you know that I do a really good Cartman? Skeet Yee Man! I'm getting him! That's good. I'm really good at it. That's good. Okay, so choose to check in. So choose to check in. Detour from Cartman. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Choose to check in. So you have this awareness that the parts triggered and you're saying, okay, I'm gonna choose to check in right now. So you, step one, that's it. Choose. And if you know that you feel that buy-in, like, okay, the parts ready to go, we can get, we can keep going, right? Choosing to check in is also just sometimes even having the awareness that you need to check in, because that's like step one. Step two is curiosity. Become curious. These are all C qualities, remember, right? So it's like acting as if. And so the curiosity is start, so I'm in this place where this manager is up
Starting point is 00:29:08 and she's like, what the going on here? I have to do everything, nobody else will do it. And so I choose to check in with her and I become curious and I start to notice the feelings and the thoughts and the sensations inside as you're asking her questions, like where do you feel that in your body? And she's like, and I'm not breathing
Starting point is 00:29:27 and there's tension in my chest. And I start to say, you know, what kind of thoughts or sensations and her thoughts are like, what the f**k is going on here? Why is this happening? And I asked her for any images or visions and she shows me my six year old self in my dining room with my pigtails, and I'm screaming,
Starting point is 00:29:48 no bumps, no bumps. Because the only way that I could find control in this out of control life that I had was to control the bumps in my pigtails. To make your hair look perfect or whatever. Right, and so this girl that's now, this adult that's screaming, what the fuck is going on here
Starting point is 00:30:05 is the little girl, this is the vision she shows me, the little girl screaming no bumps with the pigtails. So I start having all the, I flash out this information about her. You can see I'm like, I could tear up as I think about her. And that connection that you, can you feel that connection I'm having with her right now?
Starting point is 00:30:19 Yes. That connection shows me that there's some self-energy here, okay? And so as soon as you start to feel some kind of connection to that part, the third step happens. And by the way, you can spend as much time as you want in curiosity. You can just ask more questions. Let the part speak. The parts want to speak. compassionate connection. So I can look at that little girl and I can ask her, little Gabby, what do you need right now? And right away she'll speak back. She'll say, you know, at times she said things like, I need a mom.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Or I need to rest. Or I need to play. I need to rest, or I need to play, I need to scream, I need, you know, they just speaking for what they need, right, I need to speak up, I need to be heard. And so the little voice gets to speak up and say what they need. And once that response comes through internally, the fourth step is to check for C qualities of self. So you scan your inner system and you ask yourself,
Starting point is 00:31:29 do I feel any connection? Yes, right now in this moment, I just did the check-in with little Gabby and I feel connected to her. Do I feel compassion? Holy, right now I feel so much compassion for her. Do I feel clarity? Yes, she just showed me, it's a little girl, right?
Starting point is 00:31:44 She showed me exactly where she was. I feel clear what she needs. Do I feel clarity? Yes. She just showed me, it's the little girl, right? She showed me exactly where she was. I feel clear what she needs. Do I feel calm? I feel calm even more calm right now, just having done that check-in process out loud with you. Connected, oh yes. Courageous, much more courageous. Clarity, I think I said.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Confidence, I got confidence. The one that you're remembering now, confidence. Creativity. Yes. Check for Cs, even if confidence. The one that you're remembering now, confidence. Creativity. Yes. Check for Cs, even if you just have one C quality of self show up, you feel a little bit more calm, you feel a little bit more compassionate,
Starting point is 00:32:12 you feel a little more connected, you've done the four steps. You've done the four steps, even if you just get to check in, to choose to check in. Just even the decision to check in for two seconds is the check in process. Because if you're not starting step one, then you're just going to stay in fight or flight. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:28 You know, control freak anxiety or whatever your manager is doing. Your manager won't have enough of a pause to pivot because the manager is, we can become blended with the managers, which means we believe that we are that, right? blended with the managers, which means we believe that we are that, right? Those times in your life when you get so worked up, right? And you're so, that you're like, I am the only one that can do this. Or, you know, the only way to live life is to fight back
Starting point is 00:32:56 and tell everybody else that they're wrong. And that's the only way to live. And if anybody challenges that, like that's, they're gone, right? So we're blended with these parts. So the only way to start this check-in process is to slightly unblend by choosing to check in. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Cause otherwise you are those parts in that moment. Yeah. And there's going to be plenty of times when we're so blended that we can't do the check-in until two hours later, two days later, two months later. You can reflect, you just take a nap. Yeah. You can check in hours later. You're out of the environment.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Most of the time when people start this work, they're gonna find themselves the next day being like, ooh, what happened there? And then just check in, right? But you should start with little, that's why I wanna work with managers, because this is about a process, right? So making it a habit.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Do it with the small moments, right? So like, just this morning, you know, like, or yesterday, right? I arrived in LA. I was like kind of overwhelmed by the energy. Didn't love like the view out of my hotel room. This sounds like a luxury problem, but like the energy is really important for me.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Of course, if you're staring at a wall or something. I'm staring at like a Chase Bank. I was just like, where, you know, I was like in this, and then you're like, you know, I want to have a good vibe right now. And so I was seeing that controller come in and she wasn't too bad, but she did ask my assistant to call five other hotels
Starting point is 00:34:16 and like, you know, very lovingly asked, you know. And at night, she's like, I don't want to ever come back to LA. Like she's like, and so instead of like, actually I did fire off an email to my PR team and was like cancel the October trip. And then I was like, chill. So I came back and I rewrote it,
Starting point is 00:34:32 email was like, don't cancel the October trip. And then I checked in with her. Wow, wow, okay. And so she wasn't like, that's just like, this is a day to day thing that normally we're just acting out in these ways and we don't actually, maybe we come out of it because we just got some logic,
Starting point is 00:34:48 but we never tend to it. And so I was like, oh, what do you need, honey? And so I just checked in with her and I heard her and she's like, I just wanna feel warm and safe and I just wanna feel like I've got a good energy around me and what do I need right now? I need to find the right place to land when I get here. And I need to just sort of sort those things out. And I started to feel calmer as I checked for those seed qualities.
Starting point is 00:35:15 And so this is where the manifesting comes in. Okay. So she calmed down last night, okay? She slept great. That's good. She woke up. She's like, I'm going to see Louis tonight. She slept great. That's good. She woke up. She's like, I'm gonna see Louis tonight. She worked out.
Starting point is 00:35:28 It was like 5 a.m. Cause I'm on East coast, huh? I was like, let's go work out. I was feeling great. Sat down, I make up done. I was like super chill. And I'm like, you know, I think my makeup artist,
Starting point is 00:35:39 who you met Christina and I was like, you know, Christina, I'm like, I had this whole job yesterday. I'm like, all I really want is like, high vibe energy, super connected. I wanna find my hotel in LA. I have to be out here all the time. I wanna just make it my home, like leave a toothbrush. Like I want that. And then like, I'm coming back in October
Starting point is 00:35:56 and I really wanna have like a retreaty vibe for two days because I need to write when I'm here and it's a weekend when I'm here. I'm like, this is what I want. And I was like, it'll happen. Like the universe is gonna deliver it. I call our mutual friend, Jeff Krasno, cause I was like-
Starting point is 00:36:09 Oh, he's got an amazing voice. Cause I got the hit and I was like, you know what, just call Jeff, right? He's got the whole commune. But I wasn't even calling Jeff. It's a sanctuary. I was calling him about something totally different. I called Jeff and I'm like, hey, what the-
Starting point is 00:36:20 And then I was like, oh, you know what? As I'm talking to him, I'm like, I'm like, cause he's calling me about getting on the podcast. And I was like, hey, what bro? I'm like, wait, him, I'm like, I'm like, could you call me about getting on the podcast? And I was like, hey, what, bro? I'm like, wait, when I come in LA, you're gonna be doing a retreat in Topanga. And I was like, wait a second. I'm like, let me come for two days in Topanga.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Like, is there a place for me to write? And can I like come do yoga with Skylar? And can I like, can you take your class and eat food with you guys? And he's like, of course you can. And I was like, and then I was like, wait a second, hold on. So I just found my two days, my little retreat to go right, right?
Starting point is 00:36:48 And then I look at my calendar, I'm like, wait a second, I have a podcast interview in Topanga on Friday, somebody showing up in Topanga. And then I'm on the phone with Jeff and he's like, you gotta call Robin Burz in, she's in LA, call Burz right now,
Starting point is 00:36:58 she's staying at the Soho house. I was like, wait a second, I have a member at the Soho house, there's a Soho house here? Yeah. And all of a sudden I thought there was no hotel. So I'm like, hold on a second. So I call Robin, she's second, I remember at the Soho house, there's a Soho house here? And all of a sudden I thought there was no hotel. So I'm like, hold on a second. So I call Rob and she's like, get in the hotel.
Starting point is 00:37:09 I call the hotel, they have one room left, get in the hotel. I was saving so much money going over to this other hotel that I wanna be with, with one of my best friends tonight. I find my hotel that I want. I mean, it sounds like a stupid luxury thing, but look how fast the manifesting was. And then boom, I was in the flow, here I am.
Starting point is 00:37:24 And I've got this whole next trip in October, totally sorted with the trip to Topanga, the hotel that's gonna make me feel safe, the community I wanna be with, the creative space to do my writing. Now, did a controlling type A person make that happen? No. A creative, calm, connected, curious, right?
Starting point is 00:37:50 Compassionate. Curiosity, we keep forgetting curiosity is self-energy. Curiosity. Compassionate. It was just like, curious, right? Curiosity said, let me call Krasno and see if he can do a podcast. And then we asked him about Topanga, right?
Starting point is 00:38:02 Hello? Sounds stupid, but that, but my makeup artist was like, that all just fell into place like a domino in 30 minutes. Like that feels really weird to me. I was like, this is how- It was this morning? That was right before I came out. Wow.
Starting point is 00:38:13 And so like, but that whole like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, working out the details, that's how life is meant to be. We're meant to be in the flow and the awe and the synchronicity of self. Yes. You talk about, uh, in one of your books, becoming a super attractor. How can we become a super attractor by applying this method? Cause it sounds like you applied the method and you wouldn't have been able
Starting point is 00:38:37 to figure this out if you were in stress and control and manager freak out. Control freak mode. You know, that little part of you is back in that, Like it needs to be a perfect pigtails or whatever. So how can you attract abundantly without managing the parts of us that are wounded? So we wouldn't want to manage the parts of us. We'd want to bring self, we wouldn't let self help them, right? Just for language purposes. Um, so it's not managing them.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Right. Cause managers are managing. You can't manage the managers. Yeah, you can't manage, that's correct. Managing the managers is like when the firefighters come in or, you know, that's right, that's managed. You're really getting it, it's so cool. People might have to listen to this episode twice
Starting point is 00:39:16 or read the book, right? Read the book, right? It's all there. So there's no way that you can manifest effortlessly unless you have tended to these protector parts. Because you might have a lot of things that you can create in your life, but you're up or limiting yourself.
Starting point is 00:39:33 You're gonna hit ceilings, glass ceilings. You won't be able to break through certain levels. Yeah, because your sheer will can get you some of the way there and whatever. And you may have a little bit of moments where that creative flow comes in, but then you just sort of block it again or, you know. But to live in the flow.
Starting point is 00:39:50 Effortless. To say it and it will be. This morning, I would like a retreat center and a home base in LA. And 30 seconds later, clarity and curiosity, call Jeff, get curious, buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh. Because manifesting isn't about just sitting around, nothing happens, you're doing.
Starting point is 00:40:07 But to be a super attractor and to be a co-creator, you have to dwell in the energy of creativity. You have to be calm, you have to be faithful, right? You have to be connected. You have to be courageous to take the action with that flow energy. You have to be curious. You have to be courageous to take the action with that flow energy. You have to be curious about what's possible.
Starting point is 00:40:30 You have to be creative, absolutely creative, creative, creative, creative. You cannot be judging yourself. You have to be compassionate toward every part of who you are. And so we are all super attractors. We all have self in us. We all have the ability to live with ease no matter what our circumstances might be. But there are absolutely some of us who have far more privilege than others.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Let's be real about that, right? For those of us that are in Western cultures, those of us who can watch this podcast right now, we have privilege. And those of us who have that privilege, it is our responsibility to do the self-help work, to clean up our side of the street, to get more flow in our life, because in that flow, we can serve more people. Yes. Period.
Starting point is 00:41:08 That's true. ["Dreams of a New World"] Do people need to think about motivation in order to overcome themselves and their problems and their challenges, or do they need to think about being more disciplined to overcome the weight of the world they're feeling? Yeah, I'd say both hands, but to your point on the discipline,
Starting point is 00:41:29 you need to be more disciplined about your minds. Mm. Right? What do people need to be thinking about with their minds? So here's the deal. You're already in pain. Get a reward for it. Mm. It's just like, look, do me a favor. Everything you say, you're right. But why go through life with whatever people did to you
Starting point is 00:41:46 when you were younger or a young adult and then you have to live with it for the next 40, 50 years? Like, why would you sit here and all the stuff that you said was absolutely right? My daddy wasn't there, my mama did this, this person did to me. Why would you let them destroy your life? Let's go.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Why would you let them own you? Why would you allow that thing they did to hurt you not define the rest of your life? Yeah. It's like, no, I was in pain. It's real, but get a reward for it. So for me, walking into, first of all, driving here in a car service, getting to LA, walking in this beautiful facility, seeing the other businesses that are here, I'm like, I'm proud of you. You made it. You could have stopped at the homeless board and nobody would have tripped. Your daddy wasn't there.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Your mom was 17 when she got pregnant. All the negative that happened to you. Eric, we understand. Bump understand. Let me tell you, one of the things that just blew my mind the other day. So, you know, we were fortunate to own a home in California on the hill, right? So we got this property. We got the basketball court, we go go all the companies that whatever and I go outside
Starting point is 00:42:54 yesterday and I see my wife and my son playing basketball and I'm thinking to myself in California on the hill looking at all these beautiful properties. My wife and my son are outside hooping. Dream life. My wife was like, I want to work out. My son was like, I didn't even know. She was like, I'm going to play basketball. I'm like, I can't do it right now. And I'm listening to a voice.
Starting point is 00:43:17 He came home, heard the basketball, went out with his mom. I'm like, yo, my son, 29 years old, is spending time with his mom as an adult male. He could be anywhere doing anything. He's with his mom, her first born. They got this bond that I don't have and they're out here hooping. And as I look at the property, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:43:37 yo, what if the 16 year old Eric Thomas would have stayed the 16 year old Eric Thomas? So I'm saying for those who are listening, get a reward for it and then do me a favor. Don't just think about you. Like, do you know that my son? In his mind, this is where you like this, where you start, like he got the son of the poor, the work, he started somewhere I never started the cars, the Rolls Royce, the Escaladeate like he started somewhere i didn't start why
Starting point is 00:44:06 because i didn't stop where i started i didn't stop i was like okay this is where we started but this is not about to be my end and so his his beginnings looked so my man went to michigan state and was a general manager for iso he traveled the world he's got a final four in the league eight ring he's got the he got the jack he He sat under coach Izzo, Hall of Fame coach for four years. Coach OG. He sat under these guys like his boys some of his boys went to the league. There's some of them still in the league like he got that because I didn't go I quit because my mom my dad did so I quit. I give up. This is worst thing ever happened. I was like you get a reward for it. And so to see my son, I'm coming to a concert tonight with my daughter.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Listen to me, like I didn't give up. And so I'm saying to everybody, we all go through pain. Some of us go through pain and it becomes our tombstone. Some of us go through pain and it's a scar. And we live a life of reward. So I'm just gonna say again, 2025, do me a favor, check you. You're in the ballot box and you're looking at all these options,
Starting point is 00:45:10 doctor, lawyer, teacher, whatever you see, president, mayor, governor, do me a favor, before you check off any of that SMP 500, real estate, before you check any of that, check you. Before you check anything, check you and go look yourself in the mirror and go, yo, I'm my lottery ticket. I'm my ticket out of the neighborhood or I'm the broken curse.
Starting point is 00:45:34 Like whatever you wanna call yourself. But the day I stopped saying my mom, my dad, this person, the police, the cops, the day I stopped doing that, the day I said, you. Do you think anyone can have a beautiful, amazing life if they live in a blaming mindset? No, no.
Starting point is 00:45:53 You know why? Because what I didn't realize as a young adult is that when you say it to somebody else, whether you mean to do it or not, you give them the keys to your life. You give them power over you. They got your whole life in their hand. Cause you said it, you said it.
Starting point is 00:46:06 They didn't do this and because they didn't, they got the keys. Now, I'll be honest, the reason why we don't want to take the keys cause we got to drive. We got to drive and I told you, today I was like, I got too much to do. I normally drive, I'm like, I got too much to do.
Starting point is 00:46:19 And it felt good to be in the car driven. It felt good. Like I'm going on the phone talking to my wife, we having worship, doing our thing, making a couple of business calls. Like I don't have the responsibility of the traffic. Paying attention. I got paid attention.
Starting point is 00:46:34 He moved over and I was like, why is he stopping in the middle of the crowd? But it was a fire truck was coming. So he had to move up. I didn't know what was going on because it was the first time in my life that I wasn't really like responsible because I normally drive and that's why people don't want to
Starting point is 00:46:48 drive in their lives. They don't want to be responsible. It's so much easier to say my life is messed up because you did this and you did that. Once you take the keys now, you got to go anything. But I'm going to tell you this. This is why I like it. While it's more responsibility, it's more freedom. Ooh, it's more independence.
Starting point is 00:47:06 It's more control. Opportunities. Opportunities, they limit it. But the limit is when you take the keys. And so I took the keys to my life and said, my thanks, Dan, thanks for not being there for me. You gave me a dog. You gave me a passion.
Starting point is 00:47:20 You gave me resilience. You taught me how to make it when the very thing that's supposed to be there for you isn't there for you. And I tell people what I want. Some kid asked me the other day, he's like, man, when you say your son is lucky because you're in his life and his mom is in his life. I said yes and no. I said, yes, he's blessed to have his mom and dad, but he ain't got that dog. He doesn't have the hunger. He ain't got the dog. Oh man. My son is a great kid dog. He doesn't have the hunger. He ain't got that dog. Oh man.
Starting point is 00:47:46 My son is a great kid. But he doesn't have the drive. He ain't got the same drive I got. And that drive came without some stuff that I had. Lack. That stuff came from lack. And so I say to anybody, you gotta understand, it could go either way.
Starting point is 00:48:01 But when you take the, it's like I walk into a school and I ask, how many are 50 kids? How many kids here? A thousand kids. How many of your dads one in your life was not living in the house? 90% raised. Wow. And guess what?
Starting point is 00:48:14 I automatically can relate to him. I that that's it. That's the Jenna say quad that my daddy wasn't there. That's the effect there. If my father had been there, I might not be able to go in here and relate or my videos that go viral. People are like, okay, maybe if I just had air voice or if I just scream and I just look passionate.
Starting point is 00:48:32 Bruh, that's not what it is. It's when I speak, you hear it because I've been through what you've been through. And so you recognize that voice. You recognize the pain. You recognize the struggle, but you recognize I overcame it. And that's why you like I want to rock with this dude because this one ain't some kind of way. Eric ain't the one that's making us feel like,
Starting point is 00:48:54 oh, it's OK that you went through this and it's OK that this and you it's OK if you don't want to grow. And it's OK if you don't know what you hear from me is a coach that's saying, Jordan, you got six rings in you. but you got to stop playing this way and you got to start playing this way. Kobe, you got great, but you got to you got to do it this way. Serena, you got a Venus. You got a dad. Richard Williams is saying he's not out there just. Good job.
Starting point is 00:49:19 He's teaching training, but he's also correcting. And so for me, they hear my voice. I'm not letting you get away with murder because greatness is in you. The greatness is in you and now it's time to go to school. It's time to go to work and bring that greatness out of you. So yes, anybody, anybody could be successful. But as long as you're playing the blame game, you have you have given permission, the license, registration,
Starting point is 00:49:46 the keys, you give it all over to somebody else. And the day you take it is the day that you can start deciding which direction you wanna go. Wow. So that sounds like step one, take the keys back to your life. Take the keys back. What would steps two and three be
Starting point is 00:50:01 for setting people up for their ultimate life? What would that beginning process, is it get clear on a goal? Is it start with motivation? Start with discipline like change your habits. What would the next couple steps be to set up the mindset for success? I would say step two and I don't know why they don't teach this in school. I be your first best friend. You know, like get to know you.
Starting point is 00:50:26 We're so busy wanting to be in a community that we don't realize we are a community. Right? And look, I'm not trying to be deep. You know, people could, you know, you believe this, you don't believe in this. But what I was taught, you know, in school, especially Catholic school,
Starting point is 00:50:43 it seemed like Adam was by himself first. It doesn't seem like it was like somebody else. It was like Adam was first and then whatever happened after that. So the first man was by himself. And I think that's important for those of us who study that, why? Because all of us think we have to have somebody
Starting point is 00:51:00 to be somebody. And this guy started on it, he started a journey on his own before he connected with somebody, whatever. He knew his purpose. You know, he walked with his confidence. He walked with his, and a lot of us are going, I hear people all the time,
Starting point is 00:51:14 well, I'm not doing good, like why not? I don't have nobody. I'm not in a relationship. I'm saying, you're telling me, no, listen to me very closely. Do you think for one minute that getting in a relationship with somebody, it can't be the key
Starting point is 00:51:27 because so many people have gotten in relationships and gotten out of it. So that can't be the key. Now, two healthy people not perfect, but two healthy people coming together. Oh no, that's different. It's expansive. But guess what has to happen?
Starting point is 00:51:38 You gotta be healthy with you. You know, people, you could be with this. So we even messing each other up when we have two dysfunctional people trying to connect with each other because we think two functional people gonna come together and make each other happy. It's not gonna work.
Starting point is 00:51:50 So I just think the first step after the first step is you gotta figure out who you are and love you and feel good about you and show up in the ring. You and not care when nobody think about you. And that's why this relationship has worked so well for me over the years because when we're together it's never been a thing of E, why you do that? E, why you do that?
Starting point is 00:52:11 Or E, why you do that? It's always been like E, you have a unique set of skills that make you great. You have a unique set. And so we've always focused on what's our unique skills and what do you know that I don't know and how can you help me get there? And so a lot of these young kids are joining things
Starting point is 00:52:28 they shouldn't join and being with people because they think their happiness is going to come from being with somebody else. And I just think if you be, eagles aren't trying to, they just are, they're not trying, lions aren't, what do you think about me? What do you think about my roar? You think I'm too loud when I roar? That I'm not concerned.
Starting point is 00:52:48 And so I think step two, figure out who you are, love you. And step three, figure out your North Star and wake up every single day going after your North Star. Because when you have a North Star, you know, and the people that you love and you spend time with have a North Star, you know, and the people that you love and you spend time with have a North Star, have a purpose, and look, their purpose might be, we both have people whose purposes
Starting point is 00:53:11 are to help us with our purpose. They don't necessarily have an individual purpose. Like they felt like they were called to help us with their purpose. To serve our mission. That's it. So we need a North Star so they can know what their North Star is.
Starting point is 00:53:22 So that would be my third one. It's like, you gotta figure out what makes you happy. And again, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with, um, first time I did a behind the scenes coming in here just because I was like to my Patreon community, like, yo, y'all need to understand where I am and what's going on. But I don't, if you follow me on Instagram or, or wherever I'm on, you don't see behind the scenes. I think that's a phenomenal tool to show other people what, but my wife is private.
Starting point is 00:53:52 So for us, that does not work. She does not want to be seen in the limelight. She doesn't want to be in Dubai and stop and go, let's take a, let's document what we're doing. She doesn't like that. So for some people it works, but I don't have to do that to still find a space, right? There's some people, you know, they do tours, right? I don't do tours.
Starting point is 00:54:13 That's not my thing. I used to do them, I don't do them now. There's some people that write books. Some people don't write books. Like it doesn't matter, but what matters is you have to find a thing that wakes you up at three o'clock or six o'clock or ten o'clock. Like you got to find a thing that brings the life out of you,
Starting point is 00:54:29 the joy out of you, the happiness out of you. And you can't do that following somebody else's north style. So my last one will be figure out what you was put on this earth to do. And I mean, every single chance you have to do it, do it. And when you're not doing it, enjoy your life. My son was like, dad, I'm tired. I said, you tired? You burnt out, for what?
Starting point is 00:54:50 Look at your mom and dad. You worked for the family, what are you doing? Well, I've been up the last six days working 10, 12 hours. I said, for what? What would you be doing that for? Like, why wouldn't you take advantage of the, you said, what should I be doing? I said, you should figure out what it is you do.
Starting point is 00:55:05 He's a designer, right? You should be designing clothes Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, whatever, five, six hours a day. And then Saturday, Sunday or Friday, Saturday, because of your family, you should get a trip somewhere and go spend it with a friend. You should go see the, you should go to Italy. You should go to Rome, son.
Starting point is 00:55:25 You should go to South Africa, son. You should go to the Gold Coast in Australia, son. What are you, like, you should, what are you doing? Like, you should work, but a part of work also is, where's your play? You should play. We worked hard so you could be better. So don't be like us.
Starting point is 00:55:41 We grew up in a working class home. We grew up in Detroit. We grew up blue a working class home. We grew up in Detroit. We grew up blue collar. You're not blue collar. So go enjoy your life. Be balanced. So I'm not just saying find your no star in terms of what you've been called to do for others,
Starting point is 00:55:54 but there should be a healthy amount of time that you spend enjoying your life, and enjoying the little time that you have here. Because we both know, we won't be doing this podcast 100 years from now. Sure. Yeah, we don't know how much longer we have. But I won't be 154 sitting down.
Starting point is 00:56:13 So how much time I have left, we I need to work hard and I need to enjoy that. Absolutely. Those are beautiful, man. I've heard you talk about a concept I want to share in a second. But I feel like there's a group of people we've been talking to, you've been talking to that are the people that have maybe don't have the opportunities they want, they don't have the life they want, they feel like people are holding them down. That's one group. Then there's another group of people, which I feel like is a majority of people that have
Starting point is 00:56:42 a good life. It's okay, it's good, but they're not living a great life for themselves. Maybe they got a good job and they're pretty healthy, got a decent relationship but something there's like something missing. I think if you can, if that resonates with anyone listening or watching, comment below or leave a like if you feel like, yeah, my life is good but I feel like something's off. You have this great concept called creating a mental rock bottom to push yourself towards your goals.
Starting point is 00:57:10 Can you share more about some practical steps of creating your own mental rock bottom so that you can go to the next level in your life? I want to use the term that you use and you say create. And I just think so many of us have stepped into careers. That group, we have worshiped career careers more than we worship create. So the first thing I was headed that group is what would life look like if you did it on your terms, because right now you're really not doing on your terms. What you've done is say, yo, if I want to survive,
Starting point is 00:57:42 if I want to strive, if I want to strive, this is what I have to do. And you have allowed people to tell you, okay, you need to be an engineer, or you need to be a, and you need to move it. So you've done a phenomenal job in being obedient. You've done a phenomenal job in complying. Like you've done a phenomenal job.
Starting point is 00:58:01 You follow the rules. Congratulations. You know what I'm saying? Like you didn't rob a bank. You haven't done anything illegal. You did exactly what a good child should do. And I have a daughter that I have to get on her sometimes because she's that child that's like,
Starting point is 00:58:15 yo, Dan, what do you guys want me to do? And I'm never messed up. She's obedient. She's obedient. I said, do me a favor. Don't always be obedient. You need to sit down and ask yourself if you weren't thinking about the family's name. If you didn't, if Eric Thomas, ET, the hip hop preacher was not
Starting point is 00:58:31 your father, what would you be doing? What would you be doing if you didn't have to worry about honoring, you know, the dynasty? And you do a phenomenal job honoring this dynasty. I'm not taking anything. Went to school, handled your business, you've never been in trouble before, we've never had to spend money doing anything, you've been a phenomenal child. But what would you do if you lived life on your terms and you were able to go where you were going to do? And so that's the first thing I would ask them to do.
Starting point is 00:58:56 I want you to think about your life instead of the life. Because that's what you've been thinking about, the life. Not think about your life, and I want you to start putting it everywhere. Now, the next thing I want you to do is I want you to know that if you have the ability, like I never forget, CJ was like, OK, you know what you missing that the big boy, all the big boy speakers, you know what you miss. And I was like, no.
Starting point is 00:59:17 He was like the New York Times bestseller. Now, I'm not telling you got to do it, but I'm saying that's missing. That's one of the, you know, you got it. You got it. So he was like, first of all, do you want it? Do you want it? Don't do it because I'm saying you need it.
Starting point is 00:59:33 But do you want it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he could elevate you, but do you want it? And I was like, yeah, I want it. The next question becomes, what does it take to do it? And then am I willing to do what it takes to get it? Yeah, that's it. Because that's a lot.
Starting point is 00:59:47 It's a lot. But here's the thing. I believe if you think about it, it is only because somewhere inside of you, you have what it takes. Now, capacity is there. Willingness is something totally different. Yes. That's different.
Starting point is 01:00:00 But I want every human to know you wouldn't be watching the school of, you wouldn't be watching or listening to the school of greatness if you didn't believe you were great. I'm just I'm just for real. You wouldn't be spending time with this man on a regular basis. I'm telling you, I wouldn't be going to Columbus. Right. I drove to Columbus. Bro, it's not a trust me when I tell you it's not a you don't get off the freeway.
Starting point is 01:00:24 It's like it's not 65. You get when I tell you, it's not a, you don't get off the freeway, it comes to like, it's not 65, you get up. Why did I go? Because this man is great, and greats wanna hang with greats. I need y'all to understand. Look, y'all may not know. Listen to me, I've got no mad suitcases
Starting point is 01:00:38 that I still carry to this day because he gave them to me. Like I didn't buy a new one. I've carried the exact same ones that he gave me and my son bought a set because I had a set because it reminds me of him when I travel. It's like greatness. So you wouldn't be watching, you wouldn't be locked in, something in your spirit has you tuned into this man because you know you're great. Now you got to say to yourself, am I willing to cooperate with the greatness that's in me? And then once you're due,
Starting point is 01:01:09 and you start consistently operating in that, you're gonna feel good about it. Here's what you have to do. You have to understand, Andre DeShields, I think, said, the top of one mountain is the bottom of the next. Wow. So you get to the top of the mountain,
Starting point is 01:01:22 but you understand, the GED was just one, the four degree was just one, the master just after the PhD was the New York top, after that is the assessments, is the training, is the coaching. I'm in masterminds. I get coached. And so it's this idea of yesterday's greatness can't be enough because I'm alive today. So if I'm alive today, it must be some more greatness in me. And it's my job, like the toothpaste,
Starting point is 01:01:53 it's my job not to just, I don't know about you, but I would just use a little bit of it and get another one. He getting the last drop. I'm squeezing, I got money. I'm squeezing that toothpaste. Why? Because I'm trying to get everything out the tube before I go to another one.
Starting point is 01:02:06 And with my life before I get out of here, which is why I could murder myself, that I didn't realize at 12 that I was great. And that's why I say you got to check in 2025, you 2025, because I didn't know I was great. And once I checked and realized how great I was, I was like, bro, we're going to keep doing this. And to the day we die.
Starting point is 01:02:30 And so I would just say to you, you're you're watching. You're in this space. You're reading his books. You're going to his conferences because you know is in you. And it's time to stop being lazy. And it's time to it's time to activate. I love that, man. I hope you enjoyed today's episode, and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness.
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Starting point is 01:03:27 And now it's time to go out there and do something great. ["Dreams of a Better World"]

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