The School of Greatness - How To Reprogram Your Mind For Abundance & Wealth

Episode Date: September 5, 2025

Brendon will be on stage at The Summit of Greatness, happening September 12 & 13! Get your ticket today!Brendon Burchard shares the raw, vulnerable moment that changed everything: seeing the woman he ...loved sleeping under the weight of his unpaid bills in a tiny San Francisco apartment just miles from where this conversation was recorded. That night of reckoning sparked an 18-day writing marathon that launched his empire of bestselling books and transformed him from a broke, aspiring writer into a coach for billionaires. This isn't just another success story. It's a masterclass in shifting from survival thinking to abundance creation, revealing why most people stay stuck trying to "fill a void" instead of building something greater. You'll discover the specific mental patterns that keep you small and the breakthrough moment when fighting for someone beyond yourself becomes the catalyst for everything.Brendon’s books:High Performance Habits: How Extraordinary People Become That WayThe Motivation Manifesto: 9 Declarations to Claim Your Personal PowerThe Millionaire Messenger: Make a Difference and a Fortune Sharing Your AdviceIn this episode you will:Discover the exact moment Brendon shifted from survival to abundance mindset and how one night of emotional clarity led to 18 days of breakthrough productivityTransform your relationship with failure by understanding ZAPS: the four-step pattern that keeps you stuck in catastrophic thinkingBreak free from half-heartedness by learning why billionaires succeed through assertiveness and 60% decision-making rather than perfectionist paralysisBuild unshakeable self-worth through small daily acts of integrity instead of relying on positive thinking aloneIdentify whether you're playing meaningful games or wasting energy on pursuits that don't align with who you're meant to becomeFor more information go to https://lewishowes.com/1820For more Greatness text PODCAST to +1 (614) 350-3960More SOG episodes we think you’ll love:Lewis Howes – greatness.lnk.to/1813SCDr Joe Dispenza  – greatness.lnk.to/1809SCDr. Charan Ranganath – greatness.lnk.to/1796SC Get more from Lewis! Get my New York Times Bestselling book, Make Money Easy!Get The Greatness Mindset audiobook on SpotifyText Lewis AIYouTubeInstagramWebsiteTiktokFacebookX

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We just confirmed that Andrew Huberman is coming to the Summit of Greatness, along with some other amazing speakers. We've got Dr. Terrace Sward, Brendan Bershard, Gabby Bernstein, Amy Purdy, and some huge entertainers and performers. Make sure to get your tickets right now. Summ of Greatness is happening September 12th and 13th here in Hollywood. I can't wait to see you there. My friend, welcome back to the School of Greatness.
Starting point is 00:00:27 If this is your first time here, then welcome. I hope you stick around because we are always trying to level up each and every week with the greatest guests, the most inspiring stories, research, science, and really tools to help you improve the quality of your life. We've been doing this for over 12 years, every single week for over 12 years. And today, you're in for a treat. And if you've been here for a while, then you know what you're about to experience because we have my good friend, Brendan Mischard, in the house, who is a high professional. performance coach of the high performance coaches. He's an author of many number one New York
Starting point is 00:01:05 time bestselling books. And this is all about how to break free from a limited mindset and create true abundance in your life. So if you feel blocked, if you feel stuck somewhere, if you feel like you're doing good, but you're not expanding to where you want to be, this is all about how to break free from the survival mindset that keeps so many of us stuck. Brandon shares part of his journey from being broke to becoming a world-renowned success coach who works with billionaires and high achievers. And he shares it in a way that is so vulnerable and visceral that I've never heard it before that is extremely powerful. We did this live at my Make Money Easy book tour in San Francisco. And that's where he was broke, struggling, trying to make it a few blocks
Starting point is 00:01:50 away from where we recorded this live on the book tour. And it was powerful. He was, He's going to be talking about how small daily victories of integrity can transform your self-worth more effectively than positive thinking alone. That and so much more. I cannot wait for you to dive into this episode. If this is your first time here, please click the follow button over on Apple or Spotify, wherever you're listening to this episode. Make sure to share it with a few friends because when you share helpful resources and positive,
Starting point is 00:02:21 inspiring stories to others, you're making a difference on their life as well. So copy and paste the link to this episode, put it on social media or text a few friends and say, hey, I was thinking about you and I think you might enjoy hearing this story. And without further ado, let's dive into this with my man, Brendan Bouchard. I'm curious from your experience, I want to understand more about abundance and wealth from working with some of the biggest leaders in the world. From your experience, does wealth tend to come with more negative emotions or positive? of emotions for the people that you interact with? I don't think wealth
Starting point is 00:02:59 comes from emotions. I think emotions happen to us. And, you know, in the science of emotions, they're automatic, they're physical, they're impulsive, they're a reaction. Like an emotion comes up inside of you, right? And science shows they kind of
Starting point is 00:03:16 dispel maybe in 90 seconds, maybe three minutes, if they're really severe, but they kind of come in, you didn't know they were coming in, emotions kind of happen. Feelings are different. feelings are the meanings you give to emotions and stories and so you get an ongoing feelings and I think wealth is a lot attached to ongoing feelings it's like my ongoing feeling about myself not just the emotion I had because scarcity isn't an emotion scarcity is a feeling that you create I feel scarce I feel scarce because you know what when I was a kid and then you have the story like you share uh-huh and a lot of people I Had stories like you and I had, too. You know, I grew up broke.
Starting point is 00:04:00 You know, my parents raising four of us had no money working full-time. My dad was retired military. Shout out to all the Marines and service people in the Marine Theater tonight. My mom, immigrant to the country, they barely made it. Between the two of them, I have no idea. They were always fighting and struggling. It was difficult for them, too. And the challenge that I grew up with,
Starting point is 00:04:25 maybe you did too is I grew up with a survival mindset if you can just get enough like you know just enough just enough to pay the bills just enough to pay rent if I could just get enough so what you're always trying to do is fill a void not build abundance if you're only ever trying to pay the bills you're always filling a void not build abundance building abundance. It takes a while to figure that out. And a lot of wealthy people I work with, they kind of figure that at some point. They were like, I wanted to go beyond survival because I wanted to do something different. And what that different is is different for everybody. I wanted to give. I wanted to serve like you. It was give. It was service. It was build.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Other people was like, you know what? I didn't want to be like them. I wanted to change. I want to be that different person, that one person in the generation that turned it around. but at some point along the way they understood their feelings about money when then were you able to break free from that survival mindset around money
Starting point is 00:05:34 into thriving financially and creating more abundance guys it happened like three miles from here three miles from here I went broke in the mission district okay so this is true story uh i had a good job and i quit it because i want to become a writer like
Starting point is 00:05:58 lewis i want to write a book i wrote about the same age too um and i wrote that book i quickly put it out and i did what most writers do i went really broke like you're already not doing great where i was living at the time but then i went really broke and uh there was probably two or three years, I was faking being a writer. I was looking in San Francisco all the famous places the writers went, all the cafes in this town, the big name writers, and I would go there, and I'd order a croissant, and I'd get a green tea, and I'd sit where the famous people sat in those cafes, and I look around, everyone has laptops, and they're all typing and drinking their coffee, and I was like, I'm here, I'm doing it, I'm doing it. And then I just kind of ADD myself.
Starting point is 00:06:46 throughout the day week after week I am not motivated so I'd walk around I'd go to Fort Mason I'd go to the Golden Gate I'm looking for inspiration I'm going to find inspiration
Starting point is 00:06:58 in San Francisco and I'm going to write this book this goes on week after week month month I can no longer afford my rent so now I go and live on some friends' couches then on some friends' floors
Starting point is 00:07:12 and then I have to make the decision do I go back to where I'm from from Montana and go live with my parents or do I move in with my then girlfriend and somehow she had so much grace she let me move in she was paying for all the groceries um she would go and go and work so hard every day and knowing that I was at home writing this book this great book I'm going to write I'm going to make it with this book and you weren't making any money at the time no money no money and I had a laptop that I borrowed, and I had my mom's fold-out little stool
Starting point is 00:07:49 where I was writing, and I was riding next to the bed because the apartment was tiny. She was in the marina, so tinier apartment, but she's doing, she's in the marina, you know, she's doing much better than I was. Paying for the groceries,
Starting point is 00:08:01 and so I'm writing next to the bed, and all of my journals, my books, my vision boards, my research, My papers, my bills are on the bed. And she'd go to work. She'd come home, and usually I'd, you know, get everything organized, clean it up. And then one day she comes home, and I was kind of working a line, so I'm still typing. And we have dinner.
Starting point is 00:08:25 I come back, I'm typing. She comes in to go to bed that night, and I hadn't cleared off the bed. So she goes and goes to crawl under the bed, this covers, and I was writing and I just happened to look over and she had got under the covers in the section of her bed
Starting point is 00:08:49 and that's where my bills were and she didn't know I was going in bankruptcy and I get emotional I'm thinking it's like miles from here so I look over and I see the woman I love sleeping under the weight of my bills
Starting point is 00:09:06 wow literally she's sleeping under my bills and it was like it like you know it snapped something none of us want to be the cause
Starting point is 00:09:22 of financial insecurity for someone we love and I've been faking it for several weeks pretending to write not getting much done and that night seeing that it just it hurts so much I was like you know what
Starting point is 00:09:35 I got to get this done so I wrote and I wrote and I wrote and I wrote and the next day she went to her and I was still writing the next day I'm writing I'm writing I'm writing 18 days later boom book is done 18 days later bam number one on Amazon write another right another bam
Starting point is 00:09:53 bam bam bam bam bam bam six books number one on every list imaginable millions of copies you know build this huge empire of courses and memberships and eight big seminars a year all around the country for 15 years straight And here's why. You need to find someone to fight for.
Starting point is 00:10:13 If you're broke, you're fighting for survival. If you're going to break through, you're fighting for somebody else. You need to find somebody or something to fight for that is beyond you. And when you find that, when you find that, that's when the breakthrough happens. That's when the real breakthroughs happen. I love his show because he asked that question to everybody, you know, at the end of our greatness. and everybody basically says in some way some type of pursuit of their potential
Starting point is 00:10:42 and developing themselves but in pursuit of that for others. And so at some point you go from I need to just survive to I need to be in service to something bigger that will demand something of me
Starting point is 00:10:57 and if you don't like the language of you need something to fight for somebody to fight for then just replace it with love. You need to love somebody or love something beyond yourself, otherwise you'll only be in survival mode. How do you not go back into self-doubt when,
Starting point is 00:11:18 okay, you get excited to fight for someone or something greater and you're living in that space, but then something doesn't work out, or then it doesn't hit number one, or people continue to laugh at you, or the money's not coming. You should have seen how he looked at me. People continue to laugh at you.
Starting point is 00:11:36 How do you not fall back into survival or self-doubt or insecurity or self-judgment or? Just stop pretending those are going to go away. Doubt's not the problem. Stopping is. A lot of people have doubt, but they keep going. If doubt becomes a signal to stop, you'll always fail. If doubt is a signal to learn. and to try again, now you're in the scientific method, and you win.
Starting point is 00:12:10 So doubt should be a signal to learn and to try something new. But even doubt's not the problem. Catastrophizing is a problem. What does that mean? Catastrophizing is where a lot of learned helplessness comes from. It's where you worry about ruin in your life, which is one of the great fears we have as humans. If I do this, I'll be ruined.
Starting point is 00:12:34 I'll be ruined. everything will go away and they'll reject me and I won't be able to handle it so I'll be inadequate too and so here's what you write this down if you ever want to understand your negative thinking write this acronym I'm going to give you down zaps z a p s you guys will be having success and then you'll zap yourself and when you zap yourself you'll stop zap z a p s the z stands for zoom in problem happens you zoom in on it difficulty you zoom in
Starting point is 00:13:05 You failed, you zoom on it. They made fun of you, you zoom in on it. Then the A is you attach self. You attach identity to the problem. You attach identity to the ruin. The failure. Yes, I am the failure. Now it's not just a bad thing happened. I am impacted by it. I am. You zoom in on what's wrong. You got to stop that. You got to zoom in on what's possible. You got to zoom in on blessings. You got to zoom in on grace. You got to open up that person. perspective. You got to open up that aperture. So you zoom in on what's wrong. You attach personality or identity to the problem. Then P is, then you punish yourself. Oh, man. I used to do that all the time. Yeah, you punish yourself. You shut yourself down. You speak
Starting point is 00:13:52 terribly to yourself. Procrastination is punishment. Drugs, alcohol, abuse. Whatever. Neglect. All of these things, you punish yourself. You neglect. And you don't, you don't. You don't just punish yourself with the bad, you neglect yourself from the good. You rob yourself of blessings. Yeah. Because you don't believe you're deserving of those things. That's right. Yeah. And then S is now you shame yourself or you shrink the size of your visions. And so one problem happened and you zapped into it so much that now you're playing small. And the problem is this is just a mental pattern. This is not like esoteric what we're talking about. It's mental pattern. It's a pattern of negative thinking, but it's very specific. It is catastrophizing where you feel like things you'll be
Starting point is 00:14:43 ruined or rejected so much in the future that there's no point in proceeding today. And I will tell you, and this is a lesson I had to learn. I actively coach four billionaires. And so these are people I talk to every week. It's a million dollars a year. I had to work up to that. I was the broke kid three miles from here. We'll tell that story. The one thing that I learned from them is actually maybe everyone knew it, but I didn't. Their number one trait is assertiveness. Assertiveness? Yeah. They assert themselves into situations because they believe they'll figure it out. So they'll believe before they see. Yeah. Oh, they just checking. Confidence. Yeah, exactly what you said. Maybe not today I'll figure it out
Starting point is 00:15:33 Maybe not turn it wrong, but one day I'll figure it out That's confidence Confidence is I believe in my ability to figure things out Confidence is not perfection It is I'll get in motion, I'll figure it out And so if you want to change the world You have to assert yourself into the world You can't be a passive person
Starting point is 00:15:49 You have to have high agency You need character energy Like most problems I would look at And I'm like oh God they're like I guess we have to do it. Jeff Bezos says that what made Amazon so successful was that they made decisions with only 60% of the information.
Starting point is 00:16:08 You're never going to have it. We have enough, go and then learn and find it out. It's that most people, they think they need to have 100% before they go. And we've been all wronged in our industry for a long time. We had a lot of people in our industry selling certainty. You need to be certain. You have to be certain, and that's been wrong
Starting point is 00:16:30 because people who are certain tend to be stubborn, and people who are certain stop being curious. You need to be flexible, adaptive, and curious. If you are truly flexible, adaptive, and curious, you actually go into problems more easily because you're like, let's see how this, you're curious, let's see how this is going to turn out.
Starting point is 00:16:51 And a failure isn't, meaning they're a failure. Yeah, they're not attaching to identity. Yeah, and that's what Wayne Dyer was talking. about your reference is that if you put whatever you attach I am to be very careful right I am a loser I am not as smart I am a bad dancer I am a bad dancer it's a belief I do have can I can dance you can dance I want to show in a minute don't don't pull it yet guys he doesn't know I'm going to do this the first time Lewis and I were on stage together you remember he said he judged me
Starting point is 00:17:27 Because I was so happy in my content, people don't believe it's real. They're like, he can't actually be that happy. I'm like, no, actually, the wealth of my life is I learn to be happy, not make money. I learn to be happy. That's the greatest teaching of my life. Your whole tagline is bring the joy. Bring the joy. Bring the joy.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Bring the joy. I want to ask you a question about thinking, because I think thinking is very important and how we perceive ourselves, how we perceive the world. What's more important to our success or our abundance? is it thinking more positive thoughts or thinking less negative thoughts? Success will always be way more about your behaviors than your thoughts. Because a lot of the thoughts I have suck during the day, but I still get what is necessary done. Daily prioritized action versus daily good feeling is often the thing we don't crack till later.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Now, we do have to have thought. By the way, I don't want to, I'm going to come back and reverse it. But if you achieve the results. Yeah, you have to have good thoughts. And you don't. We think. Yeah, yeah. If you achieve it, but you still don't accept yourself, are you going to feel good?
Starting point is 00:18:34 Yeah. Let me share this. Instead of thinking, let's use a different word. Alignment. The goal is to get in alignment with your higher energies and your higher form of being. The goal is to be in alignment with who you are and what you really meant to. to do, the path you are uniquely supposed to be on. And when you take the steps, and it is steps, a lot of those steps, you're going to have
Starting point is 00:19:05 doubts, your thoughts are actually going to suck. They just are. They're really going to suck. And you're going to be unsure for a long time. But when you're unsure for a long time, you need to be aligning. And if you will make the game about aligning ever more closely to your higher state of being, ever more closely to a higher state of consciousness, ever so closely to your true nature, ever so closely to the proper path that is unique and primary and important for you.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Every nudge and alignment, it's going to improve the thoughts because you're going to have a sense of integrity and character now. And it is in aligning to the actions and the path that is unique and true to your human nature and your real powers, that the thoughts start getting better. They start clearing. It's actions of integrity that start making the mind come into alignment with greater strength. And so I tell people all the time, achievement isn't your problem. Lots of people can do things and thinking isn't necessarily a problem because a lot of people
Starting point is 00:20:02 overthink and they've got plenty of thoughts and they're very positive. I mean, I know a lot of people in our industry, they're the most positive thinkers of all time. They are law of attraction gurus and I'm like, do something. Just do. But do the thing that is in alignment. Listen, if you get an alignment, you are going to be. granted a bigger assignment and when you get greater alignment greater assignment is given to you and then greater abundance is the result you don't start with abundance no you start with alignment
Starting point is 00:20:38 and abundance is an outcome and once that switches in your head then it's like wait i can do that because i don't know if we want to go over here but you know i i you know i you know i In college, had a girl who broke up with me. I've shared on your podcast before, but it sent me into suicidal ideation, and I became depressed. And sometimes you can't think yourself out of depression. You have to have small daily victories of integrity, and it helps decrease that feeling. It doesn't fix it, it doesn't resolve it, just like doubt doesn't go away. Sometimes negative feelings aren't going to go away.
Starting point is 00:21:22 I do like the idea that we can think these negative things less. But the reason we think them less isn't because we do a mind warp on ourselves. And we go, I'm thinking less of this awful thing. I really do feel about myself. It's, you know what? I did some good today. I said I was going to shower, and I showered. I said I was going to go the gym, and I went to the gym.
Starting point is 00:21:44 I said I was going to call my mom. I called my mom. I said I was going to write the first page, and I wrote the first page. And it's these small acts of integrity that improves our thoughts. more than wishing our thoughts were different thoughts and could be better thoughts and could be replaced for thoughts. And so I think alignment in, now I'm going to come back and reverse myself, in alignment in our thoughts and our behaviors. But sometimes shifting behavior can be a little easier to start cleaning up the thoughts. Yeah. It's being our word to our self
Starting point is 00:22:13 over and over again. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That sense of integrity. Doing what I say I'm going to do for myself every day. Yeah. And that will help to create more belief because you now in alignment with what you say and do, it's matching. And I think you're in alignment. Like I said, there's alignment you have to get to because you have an assignment. And you can't see the assignment. Lewis, I've known him a long time. A decade ago, if we were talking, you wouldn't see this as the assignment yet.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Right? He had to go through things and discover things and keep, Louis has become more of his best self and I've watched it and I really honor it because I just so you know I'm not geeking on it I just told him this in the green room today it's been awesome to watch as a friend thanks brother what you have become
Starting point is 00:23:03 appreciate it thank you he aligned himself and I want to let you show I know he shares on the podcast but sometimes it's different when someone says it he aligned himself by getting counseling and therapy and help and going to seminars and listening to the people he interviews
Starting point is 00:23:18 he actually is present and he listens to them. And because he realigned himself in the universe, God assigned him Martha. Yeah. Thank God. Beautiful. And now he has the abundance of love. You should that happen? He aligned, then he was assigned.
Starting point is 00:23:39 And now he has the abundance of love. And it's so interesting. Thanks for the acknowledgement I receive. so interesting because we never know like the moment before I met Martha I didn't know four years ago I'd be where I'm out today
Starting point is 00:23:58 isn't that crazy it was like literally one moment and everything changed and I didn't know in that moment when I met her this is what was going to happen but it was like literally I'd been doing so much deep healing work before I met her
Starting point is 00:24:12 that I kind of was just like I don't need to be in a relationship and I wasn't even like trying to be in a relationship I was like most of the people in this room single not wanting a relationship but I was just like I am so good with me whatever happens
Starting point is 00:24:28 and if a relationship comes or the right person comes I'm ready and if not I'm happy to be single but it was like I never had this feeling because I always had butterflies when I met certain people that I was getting into relationships with and this may not sound romantic but I didn't have butterflies with her.
Starting point is 00:24:47 And it doesn't mean I wasn't attracted to her, there wasn't some connection. But it was almost like my nervous system was in alignment where I just could see a healthy human being in front of me as opposed to one where I was like unsure of or anxious around. I was just like, cool, if we vibe, awesome. If we don't, I wish you the best, and I wish me the best. And I want us both to win.
Starting point is 00:25:11 It wasn't like a need you to like me. you to like me or anything like that. It was just like, this is who I am and let me get to know you. And I felt so peaceful inside throughout the whole kind of dating phase of the relationship. And I was just like, I'm going to be 100% me. And if she accepts me, great. If not, I wish her the best. But never again will I allow myself to get out of alignment to please one person in life
Starting point is 00:25:41 and then resent myself for shifting my value to try to make one person happy. I'm at peace whether this works out or not, and I truly want her to find someone who is the right alignment for her. And if we're in the right alignment, great. And if we're not, then I wish you the best. And that created this richness in me that I never felt. But it wasn't until I started started shifting my beliefs and my behaviors and being more in alignment with myself on sticking up for me when I needed to, creating those boundaries, being fully transparent and honest and being okay if she couldn't receive it and just being like, well, this is me and it's okay. Yeah. And it was an amazing experience that I didn't have the belief for many
Starting point is 00:26:35 years that it was possible until I started to heal. Then I was like, oh, I believe it's possible with the right timing and it happened quick i was not wanting it or expecting it in that moment but i also didn't say this is interesting because martha um after like a month of us hanging out we were spending a lot of quality time together and also we we didn't have any sexual intimacy by my choice i said i'm not jumping into this creating chemical confusion I just want to get to know you where previously the women I would date wanted to get to know me in other ways
Starting point is 00:27:13 but I made a decision I said this is not happening she goes yeah I know I'm not letting it happen but I go no but I'm not going to try she's like okay cool so we were both in alignment on that and there was something she said to me
Starting point is 00:27:29 later because after like a month of us hanging out and she had done a lot of like her own healing journey as well. But I have maybe a month or two of us hanging out. She did a session with her therapist. She was an individual therapy as well as I was, which I think was beautiful because we were both on our healing journey. And she said, I met this amazing guy that something feels different. But I feel like I'm supposed to wait longer maybe because that's what, you know, people say you should wait and do this. And the therapist said, you're an actress, right? And
Starting point is 00:28:05 if you did a movie in your first few years of acting and for whatever reason your movie was up for an Academy Award and they chose you to win that award but you said no I'm not ready for it would you not take the Oscar if the award was presented to you what you wanted was right in front of you would you say
Starting point is 00:28:31 I don't know would you block that opportunity of abundance to you, that vision. Yeah. She goes, no, I won it. I would take the award. And she said, then go lean in this relationship. It doesn't mean it's going to work out. It doesn't mean, right, maybe he's crazy, whatever. I don't know. It doesn't mean it will
Starting point is 00:28:49 work out. But leaning into this, one day you will create that relationship. It's beautiful. And yeah, so it was really all about alignment and being okay if it didn't work out. Yeah. And that's when it just like, it just
Starting point is 00:29:05 felt peaceful. I'll break it down, like, coach it, psychologically. Coach it up. On that coaching, like, this is important. And he said it. He didn't need, like, he didn't need, and he didn't try to control. And he didn't try to get.
Starting point is 00:29:22 It's weird because, I mean, we're at this money conversation tonight. But think about how often we need, we try to control, and we try to get. And that's our mode of operation that we've learned. with money and relationships. And it's why we have this terrible route of poor performance in those in our culture. Because if it's need all the time, I mean, you can't be fulfilled.
Starting point is 00:29:50 It's like the oldest metaphor I used to teach and like college kids back in the day. It's like, oh, if you have a relationship of two incomplete and broken people, they can't really ever quite connect. And that's why each person has to really work on their wholeness, You lock in.
Starting point is 00:30:08 But if you're needy, you're always trying to grab somebody's parts. You're trying to grab. And then, you know, at some point, that doesn't feel good, so they pull away. The harder you grab at them to fill your incompleteness, the more they want to pull that part back of themselves. So neediness is never working. Control never works, which we all know, but we still try to do it on people. And then you're trying to get, and you're like, hey, actually,
Starting point is 00:30:35 I'm not trying to get any from you, Martha. It's like, okay, that's a powerful reframe. And so I think it's what you shared is so powerful because it's about relationships and money. But alignment, I want to really hammer the home. It's like achievement is not your problem. Alignment is. So many people are busy.
Starting point is 00:30:57 They have busy work, but it's not their life's work. And until they move in more of the direction of the past, of what is truly aligned. Why is it every spiritual text and everything we know from ancient traditions? Why is it always this? Why is it always
Starting point is 00:31:16 that? Why is there always a centering? Because it's ancient. We know it as human beings. Right? When we're out of alignment that's where our ego grows. Yeah. And we're in pain. We're in separation. We're in pain. Like all that, like, so
Starting point is 00:31:32 it's just about ever so more for you and I don't know what the answer is and Lewis doesn't know what the answer is but you have a path and you have a way of being and you have a nature and you've got to
Starting point is 00:31:45 have those daily acts of courage to scoot yourself towards that because then you have that self-respect at the end of day and go I scoot myself a little bit all right and a few more days of doing those actions that are good for you in alignment with you
Starting point is 00:31:58 it's just a game changer and as weird as it sounds most of the wealthy people I work with which I never imagined I would I mean, imagine all my clients are wealthier than I am, all of them. So why do they need me? I ask them this all the time. Don't tell them.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Well, what is the thing that for those who are super achievers that know how to either make money or build a business or accomplish things? What is blocking them from their freedom emotionally if they're able to achieve but understand? unable to align with their higher calling or with their mission, if they're achievement masters, but they haven't figured out peace and freedom. What is blocking them from feeling that when they've mastered achievement? Well, first is, I would say, they've mastered achievement, but they don't feel it yet. It's talking to everybody in this room who you've had success already, and you still don't feel like a success, because we don't teach people how to integrate.
Starting point is 00:33:05 success. So you might have a lot of wins, a lot of victories, but if you've never taught yourself how to debrief it, think about it, internalize it, and connect that to your identity and your character, a lot of people, what's blocking is they're still striving to feel what they already achieved. They're still trying so hard to feel good or adequate or worthy. They've done it. The track record shows it, but they don't feel it because they've never allowed it in. Why don't people allow the success in or the accomplishment, why do they have to go to the next thing right away without celebrating it or saying, oh, man, I actually did a good job here and I can take it in? Because our society is not good at celebrating success. Look at how we demonize all
Starting point is 00:33:49 the top earners. Look how we demonize the top people in government, culture, records. Like, as you know, it's like, the bigger you get, the more that criticism comes out for no reason. You know, it just comes out. And so you're like, oh, do I want? want that so they're scared they're scared and they're not taught to celebrate the wins because oh if you celebrate your win that's ego and so so few people i actually i really believe this most people have never genuinely celebrated their life wow they have a birthday they've had 50 of them they've never genuinely celebrated and praised and felt and integrated life god's hope for them God's breath, God's grace, and if it's not God, they've just never taken that spiritual time.
Starting point is 00:34:38 If you never felt life, how are you supposed to feel like the achievements matter? People have victories, but they never felt the victory. They're just on to the next battle, next battle, next battle, next battle, next battle. So you have to teach people first to feel. You really have to teach people to feel. And so once they, we can get that block out, okay, now you can feel it. Okay, like let's celebrate some of the winds. Let's recognize it, which sounds so corny.
Starting point is 00:35:03 It just works because what most people want, this is my secret. It's like, how do you get these clients? I go, well, I know one thing is true for all humans. And it is the ultimate purpose we're all here for, at least I believe. And that is if you've been granted life, the purpose is life. Another word is aliveness. What everybody wants is more aliveness.
Starting point is 00:35:28 What they're usually chasing and the next thing is more aliveness. The bigger risk, the bigger deal, the bigger adventure, the bigger novelty, the bigger complexity, the bigger bank. It's like the chase makes them feel alive. And so the chase is important. So we just got to make sure
Starting point is 00:35:44 they're chasing the right thing, right? We are gold-driven species. We have this drive to achieve and build and create and expand. So you have to honor that. And I want you to feel like that. We call it meaningful pursuits. We want you to have a meaningful pursuit that brings you alive.
Starting point is 00:36:01 And sometimes it takes a while to figure that out. And the block is they're busy in the wrong chase. They're in the wrong hunt. They're literally playing a game that isn't even what matters to them. They just got taught that. Or the kids who went to that college they went to that was fancy did that. Or those guys on Wall Street or do that. Or this guy I'm neighbors with who has this thing.
Starting point is 00:36:23 And now they're playing games that are stupid that don't bring meaning or aliveness. And if you don't have meaning and aliveness, the worst thing is, you start making even worse choices. Because now you resent other people. So now you've got to compete with them to beat them in games that don't matter.
Starting point is 00:36:42 Does anyone to hear what I'm talking about? It's like, this is why, alignment and finding the feeling, what brings you alive a little bit, what has meaning to you. That's where the wealth is. What brings you alive, what brings you That's where the wealth is.
Starting point is 00:36:58 What's the test or the assessment that people can take right now that can figure out if they're in alignment with a meaningful pursuit or if they're playing a dumb game? Their career and their purpose and their relationship, whatever it might be. Yeah. It's going to sound so lame. Preparation. If you find yourself preparing for it, thinking about it, researching it before you go do it, you're on the right track. I'm from Montana, where, you know, I grew up hunting, and I don't hunt anymore, and I know I'm in California, so hunting is, like, officially banned by the governor. You know, but my dad grew up in a true, like on a true, like, ranch.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Have you all seen Yellowstone? Like, my dad grew up, but it was not fancy like that. He grew up in a place where he had to go four and a half miles to a one-bedroom schoolhouse, so he grew up hunting because that's how they provided food. for real. And so I grew up a little bit like that, too, because we were broke. And it was a big deal to go hunting. But I use the metaphor just a little bit because people who, who, if they're on the right hunt, they get up at like 5 a.m. They start putting things together. They're checking the gear. They're checking the equipment. I got a buddy. He doesn't hunt, but he's a, like a kiteboarder. You all know what kiteboarding is? Yeah, yeah. Okay. It's really hard. He's a kiteboard. Man, he loves to get that. everything ready with the kiteboarding and get it into the truck. And he's just, you're preparing. Check the weather and check everything. Yeah, it's the weirdest funny thing I discovered working with all these amazing people.
Starting point is 00:38:37 High performers around the world, we do this research. They just prepare more. But the preparation isn't because of fear or failure. It's like they kind of geek on it. It's like they got all the gear for the bike and they got all the weird. They just like, they like to do things. They're doing it because it's an interest.
Starting point is 00:38:52 And now because they're preparing the interest as they're doing the interest and they start to align it, it becomes a passion. And now because they have the passion, they can develop the perseverance, it becomes grit, and you know all that research. Yeah, of course. What if someone doesn't know their value or their worth,
Starting point is 00:39:07 how can someone start to understand what their value and worth is? And what should someone do when someone else doesn't appreciate their value or their worth? If you don't know your value or worth, volunteer. You got to volunteer. that's literally
Starting point is 00:39:27 that would be the shortest most direct path to finding out that you're value and worth we live in a society we don't volunteer
Starting point is 00:39:36 now I lived a decade in this town I met my wife in this town the girl who slept in my bills she stayed with me wow
Starting point is 00:39:46 that's cool that's pretty cool man that's pretty good we were just at Lewis and Marta's beautiful wedding together and we had the time of our life. And it's a very private part of my life.
Starting point is 00:39:58 My wife doesn't want to be on social media. She doesn't care about that stuff. So a lot of people don't know. Like, the actual great success of my life isn't, you know, the books and the courses and the events and the, you know, magazines and stuff. It's like, I have an unbelievable marriage. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Like an unbelievable marriage. And I breed this up because when we came, we were here, uh, I was in San Francisco. I lived here from, uh, I think 2001 to 2008 or nineish. It was a different town, different city.
Starting point is 00:40:27 I don't know many of you lived here a long time. It was different. The indifference that developed in this town with walking by those who are homeless and those who are in need at a mass social level of indifference is terrifying that that can happen. And I think it relates to the fact
Starting point is 00:40:48 that a lot of people don't have self-worth. And the lower your self-worth is the less you're likely to take care of somebody else. It's why you need to get good with you so you can be good to others. And I think that once you volunteer in a few soup kitchens, once you've helped put a few people to bed, once you've been in hospice, once you've been on the front lines, once in some way you have volunteered your actual time,
Starting point is 00:41:16 your actual energy, and you see the need in the world, it sparks a humanity in you. and when that light comes on to be a giver I love that slide you had about generosity when the light comes on inside which is your humanity to be a giver to others
Starting point is 00:41:35 worth isn't the issue anymore it's like it's like for those I'm more raised in Christianity so you know it's like when you understand that level of generosity and giving of self, you stop worrying about yourself so much.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Yeah. Like the ego is, you're not so trapped in yourself and your self-concern, and all of a sudden, like, worth becomes a humanity thing, not how do I feel about myself today thing? And everybody's worthwhile.
Starting point is 00:42:08 I said maybe part of our purpose, we've been given a hint, is like, hey, if you're alive, maybe part of the purpose is be alive. But you're also alive with eight billion other people, eight, eight and a half billion other people. So maybe one of the other hints we were given from the universe is,
Starting point is 00:42:22 Oh, other people. They're involved in this purpose thing. They're everywhere. So like, engage and give. And I promise, the more you give and the more generous, authentically you are, not as a martyr. But authentically, giving and generous, you grow in humanity and that light and that heart
Starting point is 00:42:41 and that goodness takes over. When goodness takes over, when you're good, it's just like you don't have to deal with that. Now, the second part of your question is, what about people who don't recognize your worth? Uh-huh. The people who don't recognize your worth, please know that usually they don't feel good. A lot of people don't feel good. So when they're judging you and not recognizing your value,
Starting point is 00:43:02 it's not about you. They're in their feelings. They're in their own world. They're in their own traumas and dramas. They don't even recognize you. It's like you said earlier. They don't see you. They don't even know.
Starting point is 00:43:11 They don't even know what you're doing. They don't even care that you're dancing. They're totally oblivious. They're in their own world. They're in their own world. They're so, like, people are so oblivious. We do not realize how oblivious people are. They really are.
Starting point is 00:43:21 And I don't mean that in a negative way. They're just in, they're not into your space. So first, if they judge it, realize they don't know you. I think second is to realize that your job is to align the humans around you to be as good and caring and thoughtful and compassionate and growth mindset and oriented as you are. It doesn't mean everyone will. It just means sometimes you have to decrease amount of time with them. I got all this hate early in my career because I started teaching that there's three kinds of first. friends and three kinds of people in your life.
Starting point is 00:44:01 There's old friends, your high school people and other people, different parts you're like, you never talk to them again. They were just like, they were that chapter in your life. You don't see them again, and you're fine with it. And sometimes they reach out to you and they're like, they're trying to come into your new chapter, but they're like, that was that chapter. And sometimes you need to be okay that that was that chapter. So you have to say, you're an old friend now.
Starting point is 00:44:22 It's less time, less experience, you know? And then you have your maintenance friends. The people you see just enough to maintain the friendship, right? You text them just enough. You reach out just enough. You know, just enough. It's maintenance. It doesn't mean they can't be good friends.
Starting point is 00:44:39 It just, you know. And then you have growth friends. You expand the itinerary of things you do together. You want to spend more time and see each other and you're trying new things. And growth friends are the best. Your job is to get as many of those as you can. It doesn't mean these other ones don't exist. It just means you have to kind of.
Starting point is 00:44:58 align it. And if you have somebody who is extremely, the worst people to have in your life are people who are discouraging towards you. Not that they're mean to you. There's lots of mean people. But even mean people who are critical or funny, I have a lot of friends who are like super British. And I mean, they're, that's like, they cut you down. They're so smart with the cynicism. Like, and I'm not a cynical person, so I'm just getting, I'm just getting killed by these guys. But it's out of love. It's out of love, I guess. And I'm an easy person to make fun of me. Look at me.
Starting point is 00:45:32 But they're like, but they're so cynical and funny. And I wish I could be like that. I can't come back with a quick quip at them. So they just like demolish me. But they're encouraging of my dreams. And so if someone is discouraging you of you growing. And whatever that way is, they're controlling you, speaking down to you, shutting you down. Your job is to decrease your time towards them.
Starting point is 00:45:57 in whatever lay it can. Sometimes that means a separation of relationship, sometimes it means a divorce. That's extreme. Other times it's like, you know what, I'm not going to go to have brunch with this person every other Sunday.
Starting point is 00:46:07 She's bumming me out. And you just got to find out. If someone's bumming you out, you need to be assertive in that situation and let them know, hey, you're kind of bumming me out. Actually, I need some encouragement and I want us to be good friends.
Starting point is 00:46:20 But if you keep bumming me out and speaking to me this way, I don't know that we can be friends. And most people go, I didn't even know what I was doing it. I'm sorry. or if they double down and then they're a real jerk
Starting point is 00:46:30 when you assert the conversation you were just given the gift of the evidence you've been waiting for. Yeah. Wow. And we're all so scared to like call out a family member or to limit time with a family member
Starting point is 00:46:44 because we feel like it's like this awful injustice but not everybody is meant to be on your path and more importantly you're not meant to be everyone else's educators so you've got to let them have their life too you really got to like let them like I also people don't like
Starting point is 00:47:01 with this phrase but it's like you're not in charge of everybody else's train wreck wow and you and you don't have to rescue and fix everyone you don't have to rescue and fix everyone and a lot of reasons people stay with people who are actually hurtful towards them
Starting point is 00:47:18 is they're trying to save that person they're trying to be the educator of that person they're taking responsibility of that person so they're staying with that person who's actually hurting them. And the issue is to let go of the responsibility
Starting point is 00:47:33 and then you'll find your freedom. Yeah. In your book, High Performance Habits, you have a quote that says gratitude is the golden frame through which we see the meaning of life. It's like that's a lot of what you've been talking about,
Starting point is 00:47:51 being generous, being grateful, it's something that I was talking about throughout the evening as well. when you feel like something is off internally or externally in your life where you're not feeling peaceful or joyful maybe the bring the joy isn't working and your inner critic is like shut up about the joy
Starting point is 00:48:08 so I'm going through a really hard time emotionally or externally how do you set yourself free in creating that inner abundance and external abundance when things aren't going well for you I actually had to teach myself an acronym for that, BMF, breath, movement, food. Like almost every time my brain takes over, I'm like, okay, I need to change my breathing pattern.
Starting point is 00:48:41 I need to get up and move. And so every 50 minutes on average throughout the day, I hit the floor. I do a couple vinyasa flows. Then I stand up, I do chagong and 10 deep breaths while opening up. meridians of my body. And then I'll be like, how do I feel now, having breathed and moved and changed my perspective a little bit? And then I'll be like, do I need food?
Starting point is 00:49:03 Like, I eat. Like, some of you all know, I've done 400 two-hour live broadcasts on the internet. Wow. I've done 104-day seminars where I was the only teacher for 10 hours a day. I've created four pieces of content every day for 15 years, and most of it's, audio, like in the growth day in my app, it's a daily audio for 15 minutes. It takes a lot of calories to run this mouth.
Starting point is 00:49:31 Like, I got to eat. I eat. You would not believe how much I eat. So sometimes with my brain and my body are just not like in positive mindset mode. I'm hungry. I need some food. So I breathe, I move, and then it's like, do I need food?
Starting point is 00:49:46 Like so BMF, that's my thing. I'm like, breath, movement, food, and I'm recalibrated. Wow. A couple final questions for you. This has been beautiful. I would like to you imagine. I'm not going to have, I'm not going to call out anyone here, but I'd like you to imagine from all the people in this room
Starting point is 00:50:04 that there's one person here who's really going through a tough time in life. And I don't know where that person is, but I'd like you to imagine that someone's going through a really challenging time and they feel like they just haven't gotten that breakthrough or that chance or that opportunity in relationships or their financial opportunity, it just seems like something keeps holding them back. What would you say to that person here
Starting point is 00:50:31 who just feels stuck? Stop thinking you're alone. Stop thinking you're alone. There's 8 billion other people who've gone to the same thing. I've had to be with a lot of families because I do volunteer work at hospice. And I've had to tell a lot of parents,
Starting point is 00:50:51 you're not the only one who lost a child to cancer. their support groups you're not the only person who struggle with alcoholism you're not the only person who went bankrupt you're not the only person who lost your love you're not the only person and sometimes the problem with pain is it feels so isolating and you think you're the only person
Starting point is 00:51:09 and because you're the only person you don't raise her hand because you think you're in a room alone so why raise your hand but you realize that there's a lot of other people who've been through something and getting in a group talking with them and reaching out is the most important thing because if you suffer in silence, it's really hard to see the daylight.
Starting point is 00:51:29 If you suffer in silence, you don't raise your hand. And so the most important thing is go, I'm not alone, and I'm a person of faith. I believe in God. And when those times I feel stuck, I just think I'm like, you know what? I'm like, okay, I'm in this battle right now. And it feels dark, and it feels like all the arrows are coming,
Starting point is 00:51:50 and it feels like I'm going to lose the sucker. It's like everything feels ruinous, so I start catastrophizing. I'm zapping myself into the ground. And then I had this metaphor, and I just remember, I'm like, you know what, though? This battle is really, it just sucks, but you know what? Because I have faith. Faith means there's a forward position. And I believe that in this forward position, I got the great commander out there with an army of angels,
Starting point is 00:52:15 and they're clearing fields in front of me. I don't even know how much easier it's going to. get until I keep marching. I don't even know. God's clearing paths. He's opening gates. He's arranging stuff seven cities down the line. I feel like I'm stuck here, but over there, there's freedom. He's already clearing the paths. He's already setting it up. I just forgot. I don't see it. But if I believe someone's clearing the paths in front of me and someone is on the path beside me or behind me or around me, I'm empowered again. It doesn't mean I don't feel terrible. It doesn't mean everything's fixed. I just believe things are being set up
Starting point is 00:52:53 in front of me that I cannot even determine. You will not know your destiny, but someone's playing those checkers. Someone's moving those pieces. You don't know it, but something's being setting up for you. And how do you know that? Because you're here. Because you're here.
Starting point is 00:53:15 If this big-hearted, athletic, beautiful man who's so good and so great has impacted you tonight then maybe you can accept that there's a serendipitous reason that out of this huge city and surrounding area of two and a half
Starting point is 00:53:38 some million people that you're in that chair maybe a lot of chess pieces actually moved in the last six months that put you in this chair they did in his life he got married 22 years ago
Starting point is 00:53:52 down in the marina there's a safe way now if you hear a murmur of laughing it's still there it's because they don't call it safely in the marina they call it dateway so all my single friends go to safe way in the marina well there used to be a 24-hour fitness
Starting point is 00:54:13 across the street and one day I went in that 24-hour fitness scrawnier than I am now and I was on this machine where you put your legs in it and then you do this thing for your back I don't know what they call that thing back extension thank you I'm doing the back extension
Starting point is 00:54:32 22 years ago and there's this girl on this yoga mat named Denise who not too many months later would be buying my groceries and believe in me before the first book. So maybe if I had an impact at all in anything I said tonight, maybe there was serendipity that brought us here. That was 22 years ago, a couple
Starting point is 00:54:57 miles away. Wow. So maybe something brought you in this room. And if you can actually tap that for a minute, then you can go, wow, all these things lined up that I could be in that room and get some kind of inspiration or some kind of knowledge that Lewis gave or Brennan gave where maybe you just found because some of you were here and tonight an idea downloaded to you that we didn't even say words didn't even come out it was not explicit something came into your heart or in your mind it just happened to land it on you tonight so you're given something tonight so maybe things were lined up that you could be given that thing tonight and if that could be true isn't it true things are being lined up for you that you could be given to tomorrow
Starting point is 00:55:44 and next week and next year. Maybe you're in the right place in your life. And things are going to be all right. Beautiful. Final question. Final question and also just final thoughts you would like to share tonight after the question. I'll let you close it out.
Starting point is 00:56:05 What are you grateful for today? And what's your final thoughts? Without being cheese, I'm so grateful for our friendship. Yeah. it's been like that good yeah it's like I don't know if I got to tell you this at the wedding I want to tell you but you know when you go to someone's wedding
Starting point is 00:56:23 you kind of at some point if you get some time he was you were like you hung out with me at the wedding and you know there's plenty of people there but what what we got to have a moment right right before yeah before the ceremony even yeah it was like amazing and I think sometimes when you go to a wedding it kind of pops in your mind at some point
Starting point is 00:56:45 you're like oh we're friends you know what I mean like we've been friends for a decade but like when you're at someone's wedding and you're having these moments before the weddings and it's like oh this is like you know and it just made me grateful and it also gave this amazing trip to me and my wife and so it was just
Starting point is 00:57:03 I'm grateful for that I'm grateful to be in this beautiful theater my dad you know having served in the US Marine Corps for 22 years and I get to be here thinking about him and I get to be here with you and think about my wife who was you know I met just a couple miles away and so San Francisco is kind of a coming home a little bit so it's nice it's nice to be here I'm grateful for you buddy thanks man and any final thoughts as we close
Starting point is 00:57:31 out yeah final thoughts about this guy and about greatness not about me just you know no but it is it is actually because I don't know if you'd be comfortable with me sharing the story but someone, yeah, someone on your team, I'll just say that. You guys might not know this, but, you know, as he got married a couple weeks ago, he also, you know, was planning this tour. And a lot of people in our industry, they plan a book launch and then a tour,
Starting point is 00:57:59 and these things are months and months and months of planning and everything. And Lewis just goes, let's go. And plan a tour along with the book launch in weeks, in weeks that, His actions drove us here. So I want to bring something out about the money piece that I didn't get shared earlier, but I think it's so important. Last thoughts about the money piece.
Starting point is 00:58:22 Earning more, serving more, building more, aligning more, I'm going to tell you the number one enemy in our current culture about all of this is half-heartedness. You cannot be half-hearted and succeed. You cannot be half-hearted and have a great marriage. You cannot be half-hearted and build a great business. The world does not need another pair of half-hearted parents. The world doesn't need more half-hearted teachers.
Starting point is 00:58:52 And everybody is so cool and sly, and they kind of got one foot in because optionality rules the world in our abundant culture. Like there's optionality everywhere, so everybody's playing half-axes. And playing half-ax is playing smaller than you are. If you want to move the needle of the world, if you want great relationships, you want great businesses, you want a great future, it will take conviction. And conviction means you need to start putting more of you in.
Starting point is 00:59:18 And it's easy to do. You need to stop blocking so much of yourself. Putting more of you in isn't scary. It's stop protecting yourself so much. Put yourself out there. This could be an empty room. How fast he planned it? It's like conviction.
Starting point is 00:59:33 Go. Do the thing. Align with the thing. Do not play half-hearted. If you were in the game, be in the game. If you were following the way, fall the way. If you're on the yoga mat, do the yoga. Don't be half-hearted. We have a society that's so half-hearted, so checked out and so detached. We're all so shocked that everyone's
Starting point is 00:59:51 miserable. You cannot live a happy life when you're half-hearted. Put yourself back in the game. Put yourself back in the game with courage, with conviction, with full-heartedness to serve and to build, and then you'll be great. Give it up from Brendan, Rashard. Thank you. episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness. Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's episode with all the important links. And if you want weekly exclusive bonus episodes with me personally, as well as ad free listening, then make sure to subscribe to our greatness plus channel exclusively on Apple Podcasts. Share this with a friend on social media and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts as well. Let me know what
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