The School of Greatness - How to Rewire Your Brain and Heal Disease | Dr. Joe Dispenza

Episode Date: December 1, 2025

Dr. Joe Dispenza was told he'd never walk again after a truck ran over him during a triathlon, shattering six vertebrae in his spine. Instead of accepting the prognosis and undergoing dangerous surgery, he made a radical choice to heal himself through the power of his mind, spending hours each day reconstructing his spine in his imagination and connecting to an invisible intelligence within. Ten and a half weeks later, he was back on his feet, defying every medical prediction. This experience launched him on a decades-long journey studying the mind-body connection, quantum physics, and the science of transformation. Now, through his research with thousands of brain scans and his week-long events around the world, he's teaching people how to become nobody, step into the quantum field, and create miraculous healings from stage four cancer to blindness to paralysis.Dr. Joe’s retreatsCheck out Dr. Joe’s film SourceDr. Joe’s book Becoming Supernatural: How Common People Are Doing the UncommonDr. Joe’s book Breaking the Habit of Being Yourself: How to Lose Your Mind and Create a New OneIn this episode you will:Discover why 95% of who you are by age 35 is just a set of memorized behaviors and emotional reactions running on autopilot, and how becoming conscious of these unconscious patterns is the first step to freedomLearn the exact formula for entering the quantum field where all possibilities exist by becoming nobody, no one, nothing, nowhere, and no timeMaster the science of creating brain and heart coherence to amplify your energy and broadcast a completely new signature into the fieldUnderstand why stress hormones keep you enslaved to three-dimensional reality and how to break free by changing your brainwaves and opening your awarenessTransform your relationship with healing by learning how to signal your genes to turn off disease and turn on repair, regeneration, and restorationFor more information go to https://lewishowes.com/1857For more Greatness text PODCAST to [phone]More SOG episodes we think you’ll love:Muniba Mazari – greatness.lnk.to/1684SCSadhguru – greatness.lnk.to/1800SCDr. Marc Brackett  – greatness.lnk.to/1843SC Get more from Lewis! Get my New York Times Bestselling book, Make Money Easy!Get The Greatness Mindset audiobook on SpotifyText Lewis AIYouTubeInstagramWebsiteTiktokFacebookX Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Nobody changes until they change their energy. When you change your energy, you change your life. And when you're truly focused and you're truly paying attention and you're in the present moment, all of a sudden, you will leave this three-dimensional reality. And when you leave this three-dimensional reality, there's only one other place you go, and that is the realm of thought, and that's called the bottom field. The voice behind a movement that blends science and spirit in a way that's both real and revolutionary. Please give a warm welcome to Dr. Jodis Spencer.

The latest research on genes says genes don't create disease. It's the environment that signals the gene that creates disease. The emotional environment or the physical environment? Your environment. Thoughts are the language of the brain and feelings of the language of the body and how you think and how you feel creates your state of being. Those chemicals give the brain and body a rush of energy. And people become addicted to that rush of energy.

So now they use the problems and conditions in their life to reaffirm their addiction to that emotion. They need a bad job. You've got to lay down the very serious. thing you used your whole life to get what you want for something greater to occur. Now, you've been working with teaching people how to heal themselves with their minds, right? Overcome disease, overcome any type of chronic illness or pain through the mind, the principle of the mind. I grew up in a religion called Christian science that did not use medicine. I didn't get vaccinations when I was a kid. My dad wanted to let me go to the hospital. He wanted

to use thought, rare, the mindset to overcome any pain or any physical ailment. And so this is something that I was learning in a different way as an early kid. When did you start to learn about this philosophy or principle or truth and start applying it to your life? Well, I got run over by a truck and a triathlon in 1986 on a biking portion of the race. I broke six vertebrae in my spine and I was told that I'd never walk again. And so the typical surgical procedure for multiple compression fractures with cord impingement is this surgery called Harrington Rod surgery. And in my case, they were going to cut off the backs of parts of my vertebrae from the base of my neck to the base of my spine. They screw in these long stainless steel rods. And when you screw those

rods in into the vertebrae, actually like cantilever. It lifts the spinal column off the cord. But the prognosis was I probably wouldn't walk again and that the surgery was hopeful that it would give me some relief. And I think if it was any other patient, Lewis, besides me, I probably would have recommended the surgery, but this was me. Sure. And I just couldn't rush into it. So I had four opinions, you know, from four of the leading surgeons in Southern California, and they were adamant that I needed this surgery. All four of them. All four of them.

Yeah. In fact, the medical director of Scripps Hospital at the time was my surgeon. and he was he thought I had a head injury or he thought to you know that I had PTSD that I wasn't just following his instruction anyway I decided against the surgery and I thought well listen I'm not going anywhere I'm not doing anything I'm basically laying face down and I thought well there's an intelligence that's giving us life that's keeping a heart beating and digesting our food it it really knows how to heal way better than me this innate intelligence is what's giving us life and I thought well if it's an intelligence, it's a consciousness and consciousness is awareness and awareness is paying

attention, so it must be paying attention to me. So I said, look, maybe I'll just spend the rest of my time trying to connect to this intelligence and give it a plan, give it a design, give it a template. And when I was really present and complete with that design, I would surrender this creation to this greater mind and allow it to do the healing for me. And the other thing I said is I'm not going to let any thought slip by my awareness that I don't want to experience. Now that sounds really easy, right? But when you're faced with crisis or trauma, we tend to focus on what we don't want to have happen instead of what we do have want to have happen. So I started on this journey. I decided against the surgery and it was a big revolution

at the time. And I went through six and a half weeks of hell. I just could not get my mind to do what I wanted to do because I'd start reconstructing my vertebrae and imaging an outcome. And then I'd start thinking I'm going to be living in a wheelchair. Or do I sell my practice? So you were thinking about the way you wanted your body to look and feel in your mind? I reconstructed every single... In the mind. Yeah, in my mind.

I wanted to show it exactly three-dimensionally. In your mind? You're not drawing it out or... No, no, no. In my mind, I was reconstructed. You're visualizing it. Yeah, visualizing it. And I wanted to say, look, take a look at that.

Because this intelligence is always present, right? So we've got to be present with it. So I'd start off reconstructing my spine and then I'd be like, oh gosh, should I sell my practice? What if I live in a wheelchair? You practice a chiropractic process in the southern California, LaHoyate. So I couldn't get my mind to do what I wanted to do. And then after six weeks, I just went through the whole thing. And I felt like I hit a golf ball right in the sweet spot.

Something clicked. And from that point forward, what took me two and a half or three hours to do, I was able to do in 45 minutes. I was firing and wiring, you know, these new circuits. And I was practicing paying attention. And then all of a sudden I started noticing dramatic changes in my health like this. And the moment I started noticing changes in my body, what was going on outside of me. I started correlating at what I was doing inside of me. Now I was just hooked and I just started doing it with more passion and more sincerity.

Anyway, back on my feet in 10 and a half weeks, back training at 12 weeks, back in my clinic. And I just made a deal with myself that if I was ever able to walk again, I'd spend the rest of my life studying the mind-body connection and mind over matter. And then that led me to just stop everything in my life. If I just wasn't the same guy, I'd just been initiated into something and sold my practice, sold my home. Sold it all. I moved to the Northwest and I just started asking bigger questions like, who am I? What is, why am I here?

What are we doing? What happens when we die? And how did all this happen for me? What was the process? I started studying the science behind it and I couldn't find it in any conventional textbooks because this was unconventional, right? And miraculous is kind of unconventional. So I started studying quantum physics and neuroscience and epigenetics and it started making sense.

I started building this model of understanding. Then I asked the fundamental question, has anybody else done it? So then I traveled to 17 different countries and interviewed hundreds and hundreds of people with serious health conditions that were treating either conventionally or unconventionally, and they were staying the same, were getting worse, and all of a sudden I got better. So what was the cause that produced the effect, you know? And the stories, and what I learned was so amazing. I went back to school and studied neuroscience because mind was such a strong element.

It wasn't diet. It wasn't celibacy. It wasn't any of those things. It was just really this element. And so then I was able to figure out that there were four common things. And then I wrote a book about it. And then I thought, God, if this works really on people that were sick and are better and they come from all walks of life, all colors, all races, all genders.

sexual preferences, but all of a sudden, I wanted to see if I was able to reproduce it. So then I started seeing, okay, let's see if we can teach this, be able to reproduce the outcome, because that's science, right? So we went through about... What were the four common things? The first one was that they all believed and accepted that there was an intelligence that lived within them that was giving life. These people you interviewed who had had injuries that overcame. No, no, these are people with cancer, MS, lupus, heart.

Parkinson's disease. Well, got better. Yeah, just spontaneously. It's called the spontaneous radiation. So as they believed, there was an intelligence. There was some invisible life force that was, they were connected to, that they felt like they had lost their connection to. They became separate and disconnected from.

And that when they got the diagnosis, they woke up and said, man, I got to connect again, and I got to connect to my essence. And so they developed a relationship with it, just like you develop a relationship with anybody. It takes time. You've got to be present. you've got to connect, you've got to experience, you've got to be present. All of these things are important elements.

So that was the first thing. The second thing was that they realized that it was the mismanagement of their emotions and the hormones of stress that really began to create their condition. Now, stress is when your brain and body are knocked out of balance. Stress is when your body's knocked out of homeostasis. We have an innate mechanism in our body that returns us back to order. So then if you're, someone cuts you off on the LA Freeway, you have a emotional reaction, but 15 minutes later, you're back to driving and you're over it, right?

That's all organisms in nature can tolerate short-term stress. But when it's all day long, all week, all a year. Yeah, so if you're reacting to, like if Tyrannosaurus X is chasing you, you have to make a decision. Am I going to use 20% of my energy? I'm going to use 100%. So it turns out when you're reacting to traffic. 200%.

Oh, right. Or if you're reacting to your coworker sitting in the cubicle next to you, you're turning on that response and what was once very adaptive becomes very maladaptive because when you turn on the stress response and you can't turn it off now you're headed for a disease because nobody can live in emergency mode for that extended period of time well human beings we can turn on the stress response just by thought alone you can think about your problems and you're producing the same biological effects so those chemicals give the brain and body a rush of energy and people become addicted to that rush of energy

So now they use the problems and conditions in their life to reaffirm their addiction to that emotion. They need the bad job. They need the poor relationship. So that means they become addicted to the life that they don't even like. Why do we need the bad job or bad relationship and stay stuck in us? Because it's a conditioned response. So listen, if you get angry at a coworker and all of a sudden you get an arousal in your brain and body, right? You get a rush of energy.

When you start noticing that your body starts dropping, your brain's not. starts noticing, you actually starts dropping, you're automatically going to have the image of the coworker in order to what? Give your body the net. The jolt, right? So all of a sudden, people become addicted to their own thoughts, right? So these people realize that, oh, my God, I've been mismanaging my attention and energy and I got to get beyond my past. I got to get beyond these emotions. I've got to make some big changes. I've got to break the habit of being myself, you know, I've got to stop being this person. Now, that sounds really good theoretically and philosophically, but change is such a hard city, right? Because the

moment you come back to your senses and you step back into your life and you see that person where you go to that place or you're with that experience, so many people are unconsciously reacting in their thoughts and feelings to everything in their environment. So now their environment is controlling how they think and feel. So they realize that in order to change, they'll change their environment. They've got to be greater than their environment, greater than the conditions in the world, greater than the circumstances. It's mindful of that every time it comes up to be like, okay, I'm going to think differently. I'm not going to react. Yeah, right. I'm not going to go back. I'm not going to go back because

the moment you start reacting emotionally, emotions are a record of the past. And if those emotions are driving your thoughts, you're thinking in the past. And if you can't think greater than how you feel and you believe your thoughts have something to do with your destiny, you're creating more of your past, right? So it turns out that the repetition of thinking and feeling and feeling and thinking, these loops that people get caught in, condition their body to subconsciously become the mind of that emotion, which means now their body is their unconscious mind, is believing they're living in the same past experience 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year. What's the relevance behind that? Well, the latest research on genes says genes don't create

disease. It's the environment that signals the gene that creates disease. The emotional environment or the physical environment? Your environment, any environmental reaction, but if you're reacting emotionally to your environment the same way, you're signaling the same gene in the same way, and now you're headed for a genetic destiny. So, the hormones of stress push the genetic buttons that create disease. If you can turn on the stress response just by thought alone, your thoughts could make you sick. And if your thoughts could make you sick, is it possible that your thoughts can make you well. So they began to realize that, oh, my God, the repetition of thinking and feeling and thinking caused me to feel guilt, and I don't even know it's guilt. It just

feels like me. It's just, I'm used to the same chemical continuity. Now, the moment they decided to change, anytime you decide to change and change anything about yourself, get ready because it's going to feel uncomfortable. You're going to leave the gnome. You're going to leave the familiar and you're going to step into the unknown. Even if the familiar is uncomfortable and painful, Right. It's still going to be painful leaving the pain. Right. Because some people are super happy being unhappy.

Right. So then they would rather cling to their suffering than take a chance and possibility. So these people said, I really have nothing to lose, right? So then they said, I'm willing to be uncomfortable and be in the unknown. And it turns out that's the perfect place to create. So when the body is conditioned to become the mind, then to change is to be greater than the body. Right? Because we become greater than the body.

Well, that's a whole other conversation. But let me finish this, okay? So the third thing they said was, okay, so now that I know that I've got to break the habit of being myself and I can't mismanage my thoughts and feelings, I've got to change how I act, I've got to watch how I speak, I've got to become conscious of how unconscious I am because 95% of who we are by the time we're 35 years old is a set of memorized behaviors, like a computer program, emotional reactions, unconscious beliefs, and perceptions. so the first step to change is to become conscious of how you think,

to notice how you act, to pay attention to how you feel. And the act of observing those states of mind and body separates you from that program. Now you're the consciousness observing that program. It turns out the more conscious you become of how unconscious you are, you know, lighting a match in a dark place. That first step creates enormous amounts of chaos in the brain and body. And it's disturbing, so people just go back to the same addiction. the same emotion, the same problem.

This feels better. No, that feels familiar. So they said, okay, now I've got to change. I've got to reinvent myself. Now, this is really important because they started sitting down and thinking, okay, who in history do I admire? Who are great people, role models that I could follow?

What are the qualities and characteristics that they have? How am I going to change? These are what we call frontal lobe questions. The creative center of the brain switches on, and the emotional center settles down. So then they started thinking, how would I have to be in a new life, if I was really going to heal? What would I have to change about myself?

Now, there's this interesting phenomenon that if you close your eyes and you begin to think about doing something, you're an athlete, you understand this. If you're a background in football and you were running a pattern or you were doing something, you would rehearse it in your mind. It turns out that the act of mentally rehearsing something, when you're truly present, your brain, does not know the difference between what's going on out there and what's going on in here. In fact, your brain will begin to look like you've been doing it for the last five days and you've never run the course. So now your brain is no longer a record of the past because typically it is. Now it's a map to the future.

So now you're priming your brain. So that became the very platform. You know, experiments with piano players. You know, you take a group of people that never played the piano before. You divide them into two different categories. I think one group of people. You teach them one-handed scales and quartz. You do a brain scan on them.

They come and practice for two hours a day for five days. At the end of five days, if you rescan the brain, they run new circuits on the opposite side of the brain. Nothing magical there. You learn something new. Learning's making new connections. Get some instruction. You get instruction.

You get your body involved. Get your body involved. You're going to have an experience, experience in which is the brain. Pay attention to what you're doing. You've got to pay attention and repeat it, firing and wiring. You're going to assemble new circuits.

You can take the other group of people, them come for two hours a day for five days, do a brain scan before, the brain scan after, have them close their eyes and mentally rehearsed playing those scales and chords. At the end of five days, they'll grow the same amount of circuits in their brain as the people who actually physically demonstrated the action. What does that mean? It means not only they changed their brain by thinking differently, but their brain looks like they've been playing the piano for five days.

Now, set them in front of a piano. Never played the piano before. They'll play those scales and chords because their brain is wired to play. it so now the act of rehearsing who they're going to be what are the qualities and beginning to get in this creative state began to lay down the circuits of a new personality and a new personality is connected to a new personal reality so the next question is does that change the body take a group of men have them do one-handed curls in their mind and bring an emotional component

like stronger harder more intense one hour today for two weeks at the end of two weeks, 13.5 increase in muscle strength, never lifted a weight. Now their body is changing by thought alone. So these people began to reprogram their brain and body. And all of a sudden, they began to act differently. Why? Because they installed the circuits. They began to think differently. Of course. They began to feel differently. They were no longer feeling pain. They're actually liking themselves, right? So that if they're living by a different emotion, and They're feeling an elevated emotion before they're healing, before they were healed. They're not waiting for their healing to feel joy and gratitude.

They're feeling gratitude and joy. Now their body is believing that it's healed because the body's feeling the emotion ahead of the experience. And if the environment signals the gene and the end product of an experience and the environment is emotion, you're signaling the gene ahead of the environment. And what do genes do? Genes make proteins. Are where proteins responsible? The structure and function of the body.

Now you're literally becoming somebody else. And now you're turning down the genes for disease and you're turning up these other genes. So I started to realize that this reinvention process is exactly what we've always done. It's just that we get complacent in certain areas of our life and we stop. Now, the last thing they had in common, the fourth thing is that when they were doing that rehearsal process, that they had long moments where they lost track of time and space. In other words, they were so involved in their inner world of imaging that when they turned the life, on the room where they lift their blindfold up or whatever they were doing, they thought it was

20 minutes later, and it was an hour and 20 minutes later. And when you're truly focused and you're truly paying attention and you're in the present moment, all of a sudden, you will leave this three-dimensional reality. And when you leave this three-dimensional reality, there's only one other place you go, and that is the realm of thought, and that's called the quantum field. And that quantum field is where all possibilities exist, right? So they were connecting to a field of information that had everything to do with the first principle, which is that invisible intelligence that's both within us and all around us, personal and universal. It is the unifying field that governs everything material in this world. And you're going to change something material. That

means you've got to get beyond your body to heal your body. Because if you're your body trying to heal your body, there's one thing that we can guarantee it's going to take time. It's going to just take a long time because you're playing by the rules of Newtonian physics. You play other rooms of quantum physics. Energy dictates matter. So when you're truly in the field and you're making changes there, then the downward cascade neurologically, biologically, chemically, hormonally, genetically is the side effect of what's doing, what's happening in the field. Accelerates. Yeah, accelerates it, exactly. So you do it in less time because you're more connected to a realm that doesn't play by time. You know, growing up in this religion that I grew

up it was a constant reminder daily practice to think in a certain way to think that you can never be physically harmed that your infinite love that your infinite light your infinite soul spirit life truth and love right it was a constantly taught to me that i'm that i'm never able to get physically harmed and that if you are that means your thought is off and you just have to re-correct your thought and you'll have a healing right it's a little extreme for some because, and if you're not, you know, well practiced in it, if you don't know how to really manage the thoughts and train, then you can hurt yourself.

Yeah, exactly. You can really hurt your body, and that's, you know, it happened. Yeah, it happened for times. But I use this, you know, philosophy, strategy, technique idea in sports. And I would rehearse constantly, like you talked about, was constantly rehearsing the games, what I wanted to create for the season, for my body, for my life. And it just seems like it would always happen.

You know, I would rehearse constantly over and over and get lost in my thoughts. You called the quantum field, is that what you call it? So I was in the quantum field to be on the physical field. I was playing in the quantum field, just like I'd be playing on the physical field. Exactly. And I remember I would watch game film, world record holders in track and field and football, and watch them every single night and mentally rehearse the same movements. would have before I would fall asleep. And then I would practice the next day. But I was constantly

rehearsing in my mind how I wanted to show up. I was rehearsing this moment. In my life, 10 years ago, I was rehearsing what I've been doing this year of my life. Do you do this on a daily practice for yourself? And if so, how does that rehearsal look like? I do. I do. So two things I wanted to say about that. I mean, first of all, this is really not for everybody. I mean, because it's a, you got to be, it's like pregnancy. Either you are, you're not. I mean, there's no in between. A little pregnant. You can't be kind of a little pregnant. Either you are, you're not. And so, so you can't. Who is it for and who's it not for? Yeah. So, so we, what I found is that when I started studying spontaneous remissions, it was for people who had

reached the end of their emotional belief where there was no longer any answers. So they had, gave up on it and nothing else to do, right? And so they changed everything about themselves. And some of them were physicians, you know. It's just going like, wow, what have I been doing? But now, fast forward to today, I mean, in an age of information, ignorance is a choice. I mean, you've got so much information. You need a doctor.

You don't need a teacher. You don't need a priest or minister to gain information. You don't need an authority, right? Technology gives us very quick information. So now, people are informed. 20 years ago, doctor said, do you have this health condition? You believed it. Yeah, and not only that, you sign on the out of the line and you got the treatment of the surgery.

Fast forward to today, everybody just kind of goes, wait a second. Multiple opinion. Yeah, let me go home and you research it and you say, I want to try this. So now a sudden people are taking their power back. So people are more informed. So surgical procedures, pharmaceuticals are not always the first choice for people because there's other ways. And people only do the best with what's available. So now information has scaled and changed the way people face off with health conditions.

And now people are coming into this. Number one, if they have a health condition, that they can self-correct. And number two, there are people that are saying, if I'm headed for a genetic destiny, because my mother had this health condition, my father did this, and I know the gene doesn't create it, but how I act and how I feel is going to signal the same gene, well, I'm going to just change my genetic future. So now, people are super proactive in the process, right? So that's point number one, but point number two is that if you start realizing that this

is actually possible, and I can tell you that without a doubt it is, because we were talking before we started, the things that I'm witnessing, I mean, if in the beginning it was just like a person got a little better, you felt a little this, that, you know, food allergies went away, but then all of a sudden we're talking about, we had in our last event, two people with stage four cancer, completely reversed. A woman with a very serious neurological disorder, they couldn't even name it, crutches the whole, but left the event, no crutches.

Well, how does she do that? Well, let me ask you a question. If she doesn't look like a movie star and she's not buffed and young and attractive and successful, she just like a normal person, and you listen to this person's story, and there's a thousand people listening to that story, you're going to scratch your head and say,

wow, if she can do it, so can I. And just like, you know, infection spreads amongst a community that creates disease. Health and wellness can be as infectious as disease. So do I use it? Yes, but not in the way that people think. Like, I don't, I'm not interested in success. I've had it. I know that that's an important element.

I think success is a side effect of who you are. But what am I after? I'm after making a difference in the world. I want people to become empowered. So my rehearsals, my meditations, and connect. are all about the next thing that we can push the envelope for. In other words, if that person healed themselves, so that health condition and this person healed themselves,

is it possible for that person to heal another person? And if they can heal that other person, which is now happening, is it possible to heal somebody on the other side of the planet? You just have to build the model and then come up with the science to be able to piece it together. And science, turns out, is the language that helped to demystify that process. So I now know, without a doubt, if you give people sound scientific information, and every time

they learn something new, they're adding new connections in their brain. That's what learning is. And if they can begin to pay attention for just one hour, now they're causing jungles of neurons to be able to organize as a platform of understanding. If I say to you, now turn to the person next to you and explain what I said, and we do this in our events, if you can turn to the person next to you and explain what you're said you've wired it in your brain. What's the relevance of that? Now you're installing the neurological hardware in your brain in preparation for an experience. And if the more you understand

what you're doing and why, the how gets easier. And if nothing's left the conjecture, superstition or dogma or spiritual new age stuff, but it's grounded in science, you're going to have more intention behind what you're doing and you're going to assign more meaning to it. More believable. Exactly. Not just blind faith. Something's backing it. Right. And then if we can set up the conditions in the environment and give people the proper instruction. And those people that get their behaviors to match their intentions and their actions equal to their thoughts, think of their mind and body working together, they're going to have a new experience. And that experience then is going to enrich even more circuits in their brain.

The end product of an experience is an emotion. And all of a sudden, they're going to feel unlimited. They're going to feel in power. They're going to feel successful. They're going to feel worthy. Now they're teaching their body chemically to understand what their mind is intellectually understood. Knowledge is for the mind, but experiences for the body. and they're embodying that information.

Well, they've done it once, you should be able to do it again. And when you keep repeating the experience, you know, as an athlete, it's going to become automatic. It's going to become an aid. It's going to become second nature. It's going to become who you are. You don't have to think about it any longer.

So take a person who is abused as a child, but an alcoholic parent who has a very rare genetic disorder, they've manifested weakness in their bones because that's the motion they live by. genetic disorder that medical science says we have no way to help you how do you explain after a year of every day going after it overcoming herself overcoming herself overcoming herself overcoming herself and become someone else that no more any fractured bones no evidence of broken bones no more crutches no more wheelchair running you get how do you explain that except she literally became

someone else she became somebody else the disease existed in the old personality she He's not that person any longer. No, so biologically, that's absolutely possible. So for me, I chase the mystical. I want those profound moments where I cannot go back to being the same guy again. Because once you taste that wine or you drink from that well, all of a sudden, the way you perceive reality changes. Because you start to see things that always existed, but you didn't have the circuitry in place to perceive them. Why?

Why? Because the inner event is an experience, an experience enriches the brain. We don't see things how they are. We see things how we are. So as you begin to change your circuitry, you're going to perceive more of reality. Why? Because we probably perceive 1% of reality. So how do we begin to fully engage, right? So for me, none of that matters. None of that veneer stuff matters. What matters is the essence. What matters is by making a difference in the world. How can I begin to affect a change? change and help people to heal or create a better life for themselves and not do it matter to matter with bravado and you know adrenaline and all that that's the old way this is about connecting and instead of going and getting it creating a field where you draw to you and the synchronicities and the coincidences and the opportunities that are coming to you as a result of you doing the inner work you're going to rush less in your life and you're going to be more aware of your energy and nobody changes until they change their energy. And when you change your energy, you change your life.

But that doesn't mean you change your energy. Do a meditation and you get up and get out a freeway and flip people off. You're just disconnected from the energy of your future. You've got to be greater than the conditions in your environment. You've got to maintain that state of being. You're going to be greater than the habits and emotions of your body. And you've got to sustain it for an extended period of time. How do we change our energy and how do we sustain it for an extended period of time?

How long is that time needed to be until we really start to see? And sometimes immediate. Okay, so our research, and we've done in the last six years, because we were seeing so many incredible, incredible things going on in our workshops. I mean, people stepping out of wheelchairs and all kinds of crazy things. You're like a church. We're kind of like, well. A church, yeah.

But hopefully not that. Based in science. Yeah, but. But isn't it amazing that some of these churches, when people get to believe, whether they have science backing it or not. They just, it's the belief in the mind. They step out into the unknown. You can step out of your body and heal yourself, right?

Instantaneously. And we do see that a lot. And some people are like, oh, that's, how can that be possible? Well, how can it be possible? Well, look, we've, we've, I've done the research now. I've assembled a team of scientists. We've done 8,500 brain scans. I can tell you, I can tell you what a person's about ready to change.

I can tell you why people don't change. I can tell you what it takes to change. So what's it take to change? Well, do you change? Most people keep their attention, always their awareness on their body. They keep their attention on everything in their environment. People and things. Their brain is always scanning everything around us to determine what's known and I don't know what's safe and unsafe, right?

And, you know, we do that all the time. So our research shows that the moment you take your attention off your body and you go from somebody to nobody, you take your attention off the people in your life and go from who you identify with from someone to no one and so many people spend our whole life building an identity of being someone take your attention off your cell phone

your computer your car and go from something to nothing take your attention off where you're sitting where you need to be someplace you have to go go from somewhere to nowhere and take your attention off time linear thinking about the predictable future of the familiar past

and fall into the generation present moment and go from some time to no time, then all you're left with is consciousness. And that's the moment you're no longer playing by the same rules of matter to matter. And there's a very elegant moment that takes place in the brain. In fact, I was just showing my research to a group of researchers in Santa Cruz this past week. And they were blown away. And I said, now watch, this person is going to have a transformational moment. They said, how do you know?

I go, I've seen enough of these. And the next moment, the whole brain just lights up. That person is switched on. They'll never be the same person again. They're having a transcendental moment. And we could actually predict it and teach it now. It's a formula. Just like you doing sports.

It just becomes a formula. And then you change the formula and you add to it, right? So when you no longer are identifying with your body, your environment, and time, that's the moment you're pure consciousness. Now, you're just an idea. You're an awareness. Awareness. Awareness that has nothing to do with local space and time.

And now, if you're no long... You can go beyond anything. You can go beyond, and that's when the brain, because the brain doesn't change the brain. It takes a long time. It takes a long time for the personality to change the personality, for the ego to change the ego. The programs to change the programs takes forever. Matter takes a long time to change matter. But when you're in this moment, you're no longer playing by those rules.

consciousness is the phenomenon above matter. In fact, consciousness is beginning to activate or manipulate circuits in the brain. People just think the brain is creating conscious. No, consciousness is executing the brain, right? So then if the brain can change, then the mind doesn't change the brain. Mind is the brain in action. It's consciousness that changes it. So when people begin to disengage and get beyond themselves, you are at your absolute best

when you get beyond yourself. and getting the person to that point. How does someone get to that point? Yeah, so we teach them that formula. We teach them to that point where all of a sudden they reach that generous present moment where they just feel connected. And when they're in that place, all the things they thought they wanted, they actually no longer want because they feel like they already have them.

So then imagine living your life from that place. You would be less judgmental, you would be less frustrated, you would be less impatient. And so the formula then is that it requires a clear intention, which is a coherent brain. And when you're living stressed out and something goes wrong and you're threatened or you can't predict an outcome or you have the perception that something's getting worse or you can't control it, you switch on that fight or fight nervous system that they talked about. Now, here's what happens. When that occurs, you start shifting your attention from one person to one problem, the one thing to another person to another place. Because your brain is trying to predict the next moment. Well, every one of those people and things and places has this neurological network in your brain.

So as you shift your attention from one to the next, it's like a lightning storm in the clouds. Your brain starts firing very incoherently. When your brain is incoherent, you're incoherent. And when you're living by the hormones of stress, not a time to create. No. Not a time to open your heart. Not a time to learn. Not a time to trust.

And it's a time to run, fight, or hide. So people spend 70% of their time of their life living in the state. Wow. So think about it. Miserable. Yeah. So then when you're under stress, if there's a cougar around the corner, you're not going to sit down and meditate. You're going to sit still.

Right. But so you've got the survival gene switched on and nobody is going to believe in possibility when you're living in survival, right? So then when you're living in stress, what happens is you narrow your focus on the cause. you now are your focus on matter, the object, the thing. And so people get switched on, and all of their attention is on their outer world. When the hormones of stress kick on, the body gets an arousal. Now your attention is on the body. And of course, when you're under stress, you're trying to predict the future based on the past.

And now you're literally enslaved into three-dimensional reality. So then how do you get what you want? You've got to try harder. You've got to force it more. You've got to work hard. You've got to fight for it. That's matter trying to change. It's exhausting.

People will just burn out, right? So then we now know that when you go from a narrow focus on something and you begin to open your focus, you create a sense and awareness, that the act of opening your focus causes you to stop thinking. And if you stop thinking, you no longer activate those circuits and you start to slow your brainwaves down. As you slow your brainwaves down, you start connecting through that autonomic nervous system, the thing that's giving you life. And all of a sudden, when you get beyond yourself, it says, he's gone, let's step in and just clean up this. mess before he gets back. Really? And its job is to create order and balance. Your body will start to do that for you. The innate intelligence will step right in. Once you connect,

you've got to connect. So you've got to know how to change your brain waves. You can't change your brain waves. You stay in that active state. You're basically moving furniture around. You're analyzing your life within some disturbing emotion. And I can tell you, after looking at all those brain stands, if you're analyzing your life within some disturbing emotion, you're going to make your brain worse. In fact, you are thinking in the past, right? So you teach people, the formula, how to open their focus, change their brain waves, connect to that invisible field, and all of a sudden different compartments of the brain starts synchronizing. The front of the brain starts talking the back of the brain.

The right side starts talking to the left side. And all of a sudden, what sinks in the brain links in the brain, and all of a sudden you see this person starting to feel more like themselves. And when you see those two hemispheres of the brain start lighting up, watch out because that person's going to feel really whole. They're going to start loving life. They're going to feel like they're going to be in love with life because the union of polarity and duality is wholeness at the exact same type.

Coherent brain, when you're resentful, when you're judgmental, when you're impatient, your heart beats out of rhythm. Why? You're stepping on the gas and you're stepping on the break at the same time. Your body and its intelligence living in survival is saying T-Rex is back there, but you're not running because you're sitting across the table looking at somebody smiling and your body's revved up, right? So the heart is beating irrhythmically. And when that happens, you're squandering or you're using all the body's life force and turning it into chemistry, right? You're using all that energy to survive as opposed to think beyond. Right, right.

So you're drawing from your vital life force, that invisible field around your body and you're turning into chemistry. You actually are going to shrink your own field. The hormones of stress cause us to be materialist, right? When we're under stress, we're using our senses to determine reality. So now you feel more like matter and less like energy, more separate from possibility. So then to teach a person then how to regulate that heart center, and we do this, we've done 6,000 heart scans. Why? Because if I can teach you how to get in that heart state, and I can teach you how to activate that center, and I can teach you how to regulate an elevated emotion, the heart starts to create a very coherent signature.

And when the heart starts beating like a drum, like dropping a pebble in water, it begins to produce a measurable magnetic field up to three meters. wide. Now if you're more energy than matter, more wave than particle. Now, that field that's being created is measurable, and that's an energy, and energy is frequency, and all frequency carries information. So what is the information when it makes it here? But you're sharing into the world. It could carry the thought of your healing. Why? Because it's consistent with the energy. Guilt isn't going to carry the thought of your healing. It's a different frequency. And all of a sudden now, the person is elevating their emotional state, and they're allowing their thought to be carried on that frequency,

they're broadcasting a whole new energetic signature. But thoughts are the language of the brain and feelings of the language of the body and how you think and how you feel creates your state of being. So then the question is, if you keep practicing, creating that state of being, it should become familiar to you, yes or no? The word meditation literally means to become familiar with.

So then if you're practicing, moving into these elevated states, and your heart is coherent, and we're measuring, and I can say, Lewis, you got it. Now do it for 30 minutes. Now do it for 60 minutes. And you practice creating that coherence.

You'll know when you're there and when you're not. Yes or no? And then you would be able to say, like a skill, like anything else, give me a minute. I'm going to step out, and you're going to go back in the hard coherence and bring up that state. How do we get there in the heart? Well, then we practice a formula.

Again, rest of your attention, start calling up elevated emotions. And when you start seeing that that starts happening, then you sustain it and you keep practicing and all of a sudden it gets longer and longer and longer now what's the relevance behind that well we've measured neurotransmitters so when a person actually activates their heart the heart releases a chemical called oxytocin oxytocin is actually the love chemical not oxytocin signals nitric oxide nitric oxide signals another chemical called endothelial derived relaxing factor what does that do causes the vessels in your heart to swell You will literally have energy in your heart.

You will literally feel like your heart is full. Now, once you have that feeling, you're not going to want to trade that feeling for anyone or anything. You're going to say, why would I judge that person? If I judge that person, I'm going to lose this feeling. Now, all of a sudden, you're self-regulating. Now, once the heart is activated, I just was at the research lab this week. Once the heart is activated, it acts as an amplifier, and it amplifies energy in the burning. Where does all anxiety stem from?

Anxiety is doing this. Living in survival, when you're living in survival, I'll tell you this, when the survival gene is activated out of the infinite potentials in the quantum field, you'll always choose the worst case scenario. Why? Because if you're in survival and you're preparing for the worst, there's always better chances of surviving if anything less happens. So people are always selecting the worst thing in their mind and they begin to emotionally embrace that future before it happens. Thought and emotion, you start conditioning. So you're conditioning the body to become the mind of fear. You keep doing that enough times.

Once the body becomes the mind, it's a subconscious program. Person has a panic attack. Try as you may to control it with your conscious mind. You can't. You programmed it subconsciously. Now you worry about the next panic attack. And as you start worrying about the next panic attack, it's the vigilance that creates the next one.

Now here's what's happening in our work. People who are self-regulating and creating these elevated States, we have, we have heart scans of them sustaining heart coherence for a whole hour during a meditation. Then at the end of the day, they're still wearing the monitor. It's eight o'clock at night. They're not even in a meditation. And for a whole entire hour, they're in heart coherence. We say to the woman, what's going on here? She said, I have no idea. I was just getting ready for bed and all of a sudden my heart just swelled up. It was so intense. I had to lay on my back and surrender to love instead of surrendering to fear. She had a spontaneous love attack instead of

spontaneous panic attack. Now I would call that the natural state of being. So then if you're living by those elevated states and you know how to feel that emotion of your future before it happens, you're less likely to wait for it to happen because you'll feel like it already happened. You'll less likely try to control it. You'll know that the moment you lose the feeling you just disconnected and you're going to make your way back. And when you get good at it, no person, no thing, no experience can take it away from you. You're empowered and if you understand the laws of how creation happens, then you're less likely to compete and rush to get what you want. You're going to know that it's going to come to you.

And now that's the new model of how we create. Knowing it's going to come to us at the right time, what if we want it faster? Yeah, you just do it again. But remember, if you're trying to make it happen faster, you're back to the old self. The new self would never do that. The new self would constantly stay there. And so then how does it appear? It appears in a way that you can't expect.

Because if you can predict it, it's the known. It's going to come in a way that you haven't thought of, an unknown. And it's got to rock your world. It's got to catch you off guard. It's got to leave you no doubt that what you've been doing inside of you that produces some effect outside of you. And when you correlate what you've been doing inside of you with the effect that you produced outside of,

you're going to pay attention to what you did and do it again. And the energy of the joy that you feel, when it happens, you're going to use that energy to create again. Now, people say to me, well, I'm this way because of that person and that thing. I would say to them, so you mean then that person or that experience out there is controlling your thoughts and feelings. That means you're a victim to your environment. But when you start changing your thoughts and feelings and it starts to produce an effect

in your environment, you're going to change the belief that you're a victim consciously or subconsciously of your life to becoming more of a creator of your life. life and now all of a sudden you become more a creator of your life you can't blame anybody you can't say well that person and I think you'd have to say I got to be greater than that environmental condition who in history can I study that had the same challenges that what was what did they do let me just work that into my rehearsal so that I can improve right just like you've done with sports the same process yeah when do you experience the most love oh personally yeah that's a great question. So it turns out that the signature of the quantum field is greater and greater

degrees of oneness and wholeness, right? So think about it. When we live in stress, we live in separation, right? Because our senses fool us into believing you're there and I'm here and everybody is separate from us and everything is separate from us. That's 3D reality, right? But as you start opening this center, all of a sudden, when you become nobody, no one, no thing, nowhere, and no time, right? That's the moment that your consciousness lines up with the consciousness of the field. That's when you are totally present.

Now, here's the deal. If I can get people to believe that just because they can't see something doesn't mean it doesn't exist, that they can just connect and pay attention to that field and stay present with it and become more aware of it, moment after moment after moment, every interaction with that invisible field, every experience lays down new circuits,

and their brain for them to perceive more of it, right? So then as they keep their attention on it, they start moving closer and closer to it, so they experience less separation and more oneness and wholeness. So then when that happens, there's a cascade of all kinds of physical and chemical and energetic things

that begin to happen. So for me, the best way that I can describe that field is its intelligent love, it's greater levels of order and unity and oneness. And when you strike it and you hit it, it is the most incredibly electric feeling you will ever have. It is the most familiar, unfamiliar feeling that will ever have. You will swear that you are ancient in that moment and you will connect. And it won't be just like love for your puppy.

You will feel it in every single cell of your body. And I mean like a vibration, a coherence where your body becomes electric. only way we can describe that is love. You taste that one time. Here's what I say. I always say the first time it happens, the first time it happened to me, and every time since when I come back to my senses, I always say the same thing, Joe DeSpenza, you got this all wrong. Because some veneer, some conditioning is lifted. You start realizing that the way you think life is isn't that way. So now, when I've had those moments, Lewis, I have seen. said, there cannot be any more love than this until the next experience.

Through the next time. I mean, how much is there, right? I mean, you get super humbled. When was the last time? Ooh, about, well, about five days ago. Yeah. Well, that's a moment. Oh, I just had a very profound mystical experience.

I was, I'll tell you the short story. And how often does it happen also? I don't know. I mean, I live for them. Yeah, so you try to do it every month if you can. No, I just do the meditations and then when they happen, if I'm just in the right place and I don't have a plane to catch or an email to answer and I have a little laxity

and I can kind of surrender into the moment. I just, I had this incredible, I don't know how to describe this, but there was a geometric pattern like Mandala. I don't know what it was. And it moved right through my entire body. And it was like working with me, with my physical body. And if I could surrender to it, it was just incredible bliss. I mean, incredible, incredible bliss.

I mean, I don't know how to describe it. And when that occurs, when it happened to me, I had this, my heart was just lit up. Like, it was a, it was an experience. It wasn't a physical experience, you know. It was from within. And here's the weird thing. Every time it happens, my heart feels alive, like it lasts for days. Like the emotion from the experience lasts for day.

And people are like, what's up with you? And you're just kind of got this big smile. I just am so happy to be alive. So I think that independent of, listen, I now know. I mean, we've measured genetic changes. hormonal changes, neurotransmitter changes. We've measured immune system responses by trading fear for gratitude. We've measured gene expressions. We now know that people can signal the gene to reduce cancer and tumors, signal the gene to grow new neurons. We've measured this. Signal the gene

for stem cells to go to damaged tissues and repair them. Oxidative stress gene signal. We've seen that in our students. Now, here's the deal. After all of those studies in the last six years, you can't tell me you're too old to do this work. Can't tell me that. We've got people in their 80s doing miraculous things. You can't tell me you're too sick to do this work. I have people that work at the end of their life, stage four, and turn that battleship around. You can't tell me that you had too turbulent of a past to do this for.

People that were really rough paths that are now free. You can't tell me you're never meditating. People have never meditated before the most profound mystical experience. You can't tell me you're too overweight, too underweight, too out of shape, too in shape. You can't tell me that anywhere because all colors, all races, everybody can do it. That's the cool part about it. And when you get a community of people together and you move them from one state of mind to another, there's this moment.

And I can almost predict when it happens, the second or third day where people just start hooking up. And then when they start hooking up, you know, we start, we're seeing now on our events. I mean, a lady that was blind from birth, 5% vision, by the end of the event was seen. I mean, how do you explain that? We had three people in the last two events that were deaf that are shearing now. Wow. People with crutches that were limited or walking without crutches and canes, spinal cord injuries. I mean, Parkinson's disease.

In a week, like, that's got to be like. one. It doesn't wake you up to what's possible. And you're witnessing a tumor for a woman's thyroid that was there at the beginning of the event, it's gone at the end of the event. I mean, like, you got to scratch your head and just go, wow, the reality isn't at all the way I think it is, right? And so there's this humility that comes like, well, I don't know anything. But I'm willing to go down, push the envelope a little bit more. So we're only as good. as our ability to execute this, right? But as we get better at it.

Consistency of it, too, yeah. I'm all about consistency. And I'm the first guy to say, do the blood test, do the scan. Let's do the test to make sure that it's just not in your mind. It's in your brain. Let's know. So now the evidence then supports it, that the testimonials support it. And all of a sudden, people now are beginning to wake up to what's possible.

and just like the four-in-a-mile. The formula was broken. What's it was broken? We've pierced the val. So we're just seeing now the same thing. We've pierced the val. And people are just all in. They're not 50% in.

They're all in. And by goodness, we're creating this kind of wake and momentum, but not just for healing, but for creating new jobs and new relationships, new opportunities. abundance, everything. Whatever it is that they want. People come to the work for all kinds of reasons.

And I don't really care. But by the time they start doing the work, all they really want to do is give. Because when you feel so amazing and feel so great about yourself that you no longer want anything, the first thing you want to do is give. I mean, when we see that brain scan moving into coherence and those two hemispheres come together and all of a sudden you see that heart just start going, boom, boom, very orderly. And the more energy going in the brain, the brain goes into super coherence. You can walk around and look at that person who's getting the brain scan.

And there are tears of joy rolling down her face. Do you feel like you've answered those questions for yourself? Who am I? Why am I here? What am I doing? Yeah, I think so. I think that... Was there a question you still haven't answered?

No, I mean, it's not that there's questions that I still haven't answered. It's just that I'm always changing my answers. Because I'm not... I mean, even my definition of surrender just from six months ago. It's not even close to the same definition that I have today. What's the definition? from now. Well, surrender. It's just greater degrees of letting go and trust everything. I just like when my world is going sideways and my staff is just freaking out, I'm always like, oh, I'm just

going to let go. I'm not going to control anything. They're like, what? The ship is sick of like, yeah, but I got to go against the chemicals and I got to trust. Because if you're going to stress in that moment and have anxiety, you're going to create more of them. Oh, you're going to make things worse. So I just let go all the way. all the way and and you got to lay down the very thing you used your whole life to get what you want for something greater to occur and that's not that's not one bite that's not one leap yeah it's a practice and so is letting go a little bit more entrusting if you if you over surrender that's lazy and lethargic if you over intend that's trying and forcing so there's this razor's

edge between intention and surrender right you got to be able to be able to take action right yeah right but you don't want to get in the way right so and that's just it's a lot of trial and error you know but you figure it out right wow yeah what do you feel like your mission is right now then wow so um for me right now i mean my passion is are these week long events uh how many do you do a year we do about 10 uh about oh just a little less than once a month you know, around the world, and it's usually about 1,000 people. And now what we're doing is we're doing this whole other level. We're doing two really cool things.

One is a challenge activity. And what I want to do is we now know that our students can create a lot of brain and heart coherence, but they can do it with their eyes closed in a room with a thousand people and soft music playing and they feel safe. But now let's get them in a situation where that would normally elicit fear or some emotion. Get him in the real world. Get them in the real world and get them up somewhere where they're feeling a little uncomfortable. Or they're being challenged through endurance.

And let's see him create brain and heart coherence right on that spot. Like this is the moment. This is your life. Like you've got to be able to do this right now. You can't say I can. It's too hard. I can't do this. I'll start tomorrow.

I don't want to. That's not the moment. That's what you do in your life. Let's put you there. And instead of just white knuckling and pushing through, let's get really conscious. surrender. Let's get really present. Let's create that heart and brain coherence and let's work it and then make the move when you're in that state. You know, rhythm through that resistance, create that kind of coherence. And I was just at the Heartmath Institute who we partner with

and we're the doc children, the guy that created heart math, he said, it's all about rhythm through resistance. It's about that ability to create that kind of internal order when there's chaos going on around you. So what's the relevance of that? the person who's going through a challenge activity that's a huge obstacle course and they have the belief that they have a spinal cord injury or they have MS or Parkinson's disease and they never try anything in their life and we got them up there and there's people rooting for them and they're in that state and they're in that heart killers and they go through that whole course and they've overcome they're going to walk back in their life and whatever challenges that they have they're going to be like there's nothing I've just reset the scale so And the other things that people move past where they normally can go, there's a liberation of energy. And that's a valuable energy that just needs to be organized. So they start organizing that energy, then they're doing magic.

The other thing we're working on is non-local healing. We call the cage. We got a person to lay down with a health condition. We get eight people around them. We teach them about energetic coherence. We talk to them about the science that does not matter that emits a field. the field that creates matter. Change the field. You change matter. We give them the science and the understanding and then we let them go. And we have seen people all kinds of healing

stay place in 10 minutes. Like, how do you explain that? How do you explain a person laying there who isn't even being touched and their entire body is moving in all these different directions with energy? It's incredible. So I want to develop that. Why? I want to get so good at that Lewis that 50% of those people that are laying down get up healed. We're going to walk into a city when we do a week-long event. We're going to call the children's hospital. We're going to send those kids with cancer. We're going to change futures, right? And men, you know, you talk about opening your heart, but if you think you open your heart, but when you get an opportunity to give, and these people have been working all week long. When it comes time to heal, they're not

saying, oh, my back hurts. They're not saying, how long is this going to go? Am I doing it? And transform someone's live, yeah. They left those attitudes on Monday. This is Friday. This is Saturday. They're not, they're hooked, they've been connecting to the field all week long. They're not, they're not in their analytical mind.

They're beyond their body. They know how to get beyond their environment. They're, they don't want to get beyond time. So, when it comes time to execute, they've been practicing all week. They've been, they've been at camp. They've been practicing. So, so you get a group of people doing that together, and all of a sudden we've measured the energy of the room and the energy of the room always goes up

it just goes up and that's available energy to heal that's available energy to do the mystical so I just want to get consistent and I want to get really good at it and it's not about me not good out of yet well we were making great changes in like unbelievable changes in people's health but before I step out into the world and say let's go to the children's hospital in Toronto and let's call up the oncologist there and say hey we'll never touch the kids we'll just lay them down just want to hang out it'll just be a half an hour they'll just be laying on the ground and then we'll be done and develop a relationship I want to be good enough that when we do do it that we're going to execute an outcome yeah and and that way we're

beyond reproach it's no longer a bunch of spiritualists doing this where there's a science behind there and we now know it thousands of cases or something yeah we've got we've got tons of cases now. But I don't know the statistics. We're going to start doing the statistics now and we're going to start tracking the changes. So then I can say without a shadow of the doubt, yeah, we're at 30 percent, our last three events, we have 30 percent remission. Not just like it goes away for a little bit, but it goes away and slows away. That's cool. And some people go to the healing, they get in the cage for their knee problems and they come out hearing better. That just happened to a guy the other day. He had a bad knees and he was, he went in to get his

knees healed, but he forgot that he's, you know, he didn't think about his hearing problem. He got bit by a poisonous snake when he was like a three-year-old kid and always had hearing problems whereas hearing aids the whole bit comes out of the he said he'd never felt in that amount of love in his entire life and that's the common thing that people say the woman that got her vision back that's not what she talked about she didn't talk about the fact that she could see all she kept saying was I feel like a child again I feel like a baby again I feel fresh I feel like a newborn I feel clean she kept talking about how she felt then she said oh yeah and I can see faces now and there were these two big flower arrangements on the stage and

she said I thought those were guards guarding Dr. Joe the whole week she couldn't even see the flowers she just saw the you know the foreign and she could like to see the flowers now but but the first thing was how they felt and he the same way he said I had never I was sobbing I never felt so much love in my life wasn't like I was trying to feel it it just happened and he said and I got up and all of a sudden I could hear Dr. Joe talking without my hearing aids and I was I just kind of like, because I think my knees were a little better, but my hearing's a lot. It's better, you know. So you never know, right?

You never know. Everyone's got to get in the cage. In the cage, yeah. I like to give people a challenge. I'm curious, I want everyone listening for the next seven days to try something. And if you could give one to three different things that we could think differently or eliminates when a thought comes to us or we react in a certain way, if there's something you think that we eliminated one two or three things and we did this every day for seven days we would start

to see incredible feelings of differently would feel healthier more lively more love what would be those few things okay well most people number one they get up in the morning and the first thing they do is they think about the problems in their life and those problems are memories from the past so the moment they think about their problems are thinking in the past right every one of those problems has an emotion attached to them so they start feeling unhappy or unworthy or whatever, and how you think and how you feel is your state of being. So most people's entire state of being is in the past when they start today. So if in the familiar past, they're going to live in a predictable future, right?

So they get up and they check their cell phone, they check their text, their WhatsApp, their Facebook, they post something on Facebook, they tweet, they Twitter, they check the news, then they go to the bathroom, get a cup of coffee, take a shower, get dressed, check more emails, drive the work the same way, do the same thing. So they're going to program. They've actually lost their free will to the program. well so if you start your day and you start your day with this simple question what is the greatest ideal of myself that I can be today ask yourself that question

now listen your body's going to go like well we got to get a cup of coffee and you get tired I'm tired and you got to go ah a body you're not the mind I'm the mind right now you're going to sit here I'm going to feed you you're going to get your coffee you're going to do all those things but right now this is my time you're going to obey me right so Now, the body's no longer the mind, you're the mind. And so when it wants to get up and you become aware of it, and we turn back to the present moment, every time you do that, it's a victory.

And you're changing some aspect of yourself. So then ask yourself, I do this all the time. Write down four thoughts that you're going to stay conscious of the whole day. I can't. It's too hard. You'd be surprised the moment you become conscious of what those thoughts are, how unconscious you bend to them all day, you know, up for weeks on end. Write down what you speak, how you speak.

four things you want to change how you act how do you how do you act do you complain you blame you make excuse and you feel sorry for yourself that's a victim consciousness what emotions do you live by is it possible that you're so used to living by guilt you don't even know it's guilt it just feels like you do you allow your energy to drop become conscious of those states of mind and body and review them and say this is the old self then say what thoughts do i want fire and wire in my brain and start firing and wiring and start feeling it. What behaviors will I demonstrate today? What choices will I make? One day, one lifetime. And just like you did, rehearse them. Rehearse the whole entire thing. Begin to install the neurological hardware in your brain.

And if you keep installing it, the hardware is going to become a software programming. You'll start thinking and act in that way. And then here's a tough part. Can you teach your body emotionally what your future is going to feel like before it's made manifest? Don't get up until you feel that way. Now, practice that for a few days and then see if you can stay in that state and watch all of a sudden all those weird doors start opening for you. Synchronicities, whatever they are. Number two, take up time at the end of your day.

The end of your day before you lay down and give thanks for your life. Feel gratitude and really teach your body what it feels like. The emotional signature of gratitude, when gratitude means you're getting something. If I give you something that's a value, you would say thank you because you would feel it, right? So when you're receiving, you're giving thanks. So gratitude is the ultimate state of receiving. So then people only accept, believe, and surrender to the thoughts equal to their emotional state. So if you're in a state of gratitude, every thought's going to make it right down into your body.

If you're saying, I'm healthy, I'm healthy, I'm healthy, I'm healthy, I'm wealthy, I'm wealthy, and your body's programmed in negativity. It's saying, no, you're not, no, you're not, no, you're not. I thought it's going to stop right here. So as you elevate your state, there are about 1,200 different chemical reactions that go on on the body that begin to restore and repair the body in a state of gratitude. And so we've done the research to prove that. 10 minutes and just feel it with all of your heart.

That's it. Third thing, and very important, take time, whenever it is, sit down, close your eyes and begin to just open your awareness to the space around you and just sense it and pay attention to it and become more aware of it. The act of opening your awareness begins to reduce the stress hormones and creates more bigger and brainwave states. I'm doing it right now, and it's just a practice. Yeah, it's just a practice.

And the more you do it, the better you get at it. Wow. Who's been your greatest teacher? Well, life, no doubt about it. I believe that life is our initiation. I mean, I do my best to see my life as a reflection of my mind. And I think that life is our greatest teacher. Reflection of your mind is essentially like what you've created is a reflection of how you've been thinking.

Yeah, exactly. So if you're showing up sick physically, then that's what you've created in your eyes. Look, I don't believe the germs make me sick. I believe I make me sick. I do. I mean, there's no germs with my name on it out there. I mean, they're called opportunistic bacteria because they're waiting for an opportunity for your immune system. And so for me personally, you have to ask myself this question every day.

At what point do I stop believing that I create my life? What is that point? So I'm always pushing that envelope a little bit more. So for me, I think life is our initiation. We don't need to go to any ancient school of wisdom in the Himalayas. Life is our initiation. And when you meet the challenges in your life from a greater level of mind, you're going to begin to move through those initiations.

And what is the side effect of that? Wisdom. And that's what we take with us, being wise. Powerful. Wow. How can we connect with you online and go, to your events, what's the best place to go to? So, yeah, so my website is just Dr.JOSPENZA.com,

DRJ-O-E-D-Spenza.com. And there's just a ton of resources there. We have an online progressive course now. I don't teach those courses anymore because my interest is in the week-longs. So for people who come to a week-long, they do a home study course where they get the basics. They understand what we're doing. It's about 23 hours. They can do it in however long they want.

And then with that comes another study. course and then they can come to a week long and join a community of people that are all about passion and the unknown amazing yeah amazing when's the next event um well the next event gosh the next week long is in toronto september 1st through 7th and uh it's pretty close to sold out yeah then we'll be in the uh in australia in october and then uh the uk in november and then cancun mexico in december and then i got you know i got a couple events that i'm doing here and there other things you listen yeah a couple final questions for you and this one's called the three truths they ask everyone at the end if you imagine it's your last day many years from now

and you've achieved or created or been anything you've wanted to do you've done it all right everything you can think of it's happened created it books events whatever you want to do heal the world you've done it all um for whatever reason you've got to take everything with you all your writings, your research, material, videos, events. It's not available for writing one to have anymore. But you have a piece of paper and you get to write down three things you know to be true about your life or the lessons that you would leave behind. And this is the only lessons that they would have access to. What would you say are you have three truths? Wow. Number one is that the divine lives in every human being and that we have to make an effort to connect with it every day.

And when we do, it answers the call in ways that we would just never anticipate. And I know that to be the truth, and that nobody is so special to be excluded from them. Number two is that we are the creators of our lives and not the victims of our lives. And that taking time in your life to invest in yourself is to invest in a future. And when you invest in yourself, you invest in your future. and when you believe in yourself, you believe in possibility. And I think that everybody secretly believes in themselves. And so taking time to understand that we are just works in progress

and to find time to forgive ourselves and to forgive others, you start fresh the next day is a blessing, is a blessing. And finally, I think that it's not our purpose in life to be a popular or successful. or beautiful or intelligent, our purpose in life is to remove those blocks, those vals, those limitations that stand in the way between us and that divine intelligence. And when we do, it begins to make its way through us, and we become more like it. We become more loving. It is a loving intelligence.

We become more giving. It's a giver of life. We become more conscious. It's a consciousness. We become more mindful. it has an infinite mind we become more willful it has an amazing will its nature becomes our nature its mind becomes our mind and then we don't have to try to be liked or try to be important or try to be recognized we're just happy for no reason at all and i think that is the natural state of

being and i think that we in namely know that on some level great truths thank you thank you um before i ask the final question i don't acknowledge you from mom and joe for constantly in the envelopes on what's possible and constantly learning and growing and researching so that you can continue to help so many people in the world overcome pain, overcome stress, overcome disease, anything that's holding us back. And I really acknowledge the work that you're doing because I think it's wakening so many people up to what they thought was possible and we're limited to to now what is actually possible for them. So I acknowledge you for all that. Thank you. I'll let that in all the way. Thank you. I appreciate it.

I'd love to have you come back on some time in the future. But for now, I think that's going to blow people's minds. I was extremely inspired by everything you said. So the final question is, what's your definition of greatness? My definition of greatness is to be greater than your environment, to be greater than your body, and to be greater than time. And if you do, you will be great. I mean, that is it.

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