The School of Greatness - Jiu Jitsu Master: Unlock Confidence and Achieve Balance with These Principles w/ Rener Gracie

Episode Date: August 23, 2023

The Summit of Greatness is back! Buy your tickets today – summitofgreatness.com – Today, we have the privilege of hosting a truly remarkable individual whose life story is intertwined with the ve...ry fabric of martial arts and combat sports. Please join us in welcoming World Champion, Rener Gracie, a name synonymous with Brazilian jiu-jitsu and a legacy that stretches back to the roots of the UFC (Ultimate Fighting Championship). Stick around as we discuss how being a MMA World Champion has shaped his views on confidence while finding peace and balance.In this episode you will learn,Core Principles of Jiu-Jitsu Philosophy: Gain insights into the foundational principles of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu philosophy as presented in Rener Gracie's new book, "32 Principles," and understand how these principles can be applied not only on the mat but also in various aspects of life.Life Lessons from Jiu-Jitsu: Learn how the principles of Jiu-Jitsu can translate into valuable life lessons, covering topics such as problem-solving, adaptability, humility, and the importance of a growth mindset, all of which contribute to personal development and success.Holistic Approach to Wellness: Discover how Rener Gracie's book promotes a holistic approach to wellness, combining physical fitness with mental and emotional well-being, and understand how these principles can lead to a more balanced and fulfilling lifestyle.Effective Communication and Conflict Resolution: Explore how Jiu-Jitsu principles can be applied to communication and conflict resolution, teaching listeners effective strategies for resolving conflicts, maintaining healthy relationships, and fostering understanding.Self-Defense and Empowerment: Learn about the empowerment that comes from understanding self-defense techniques and concepts, and how these principles can empower individuals to feel safer, more confident, and better prepared to navigate challenging situations in everyday life.For more information go to www.lewishowes.com/1488For more Greatness text PODCAST to +1 (614) 350-3960Want more episodes like this one?Shaolin Master, Shi Heng Yi - https://link.chtbl.com/1428-podA Masterclass on Self-Discipline with 5 Navy SEALs - https://link.chtbl.com/1440-pod

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Calling all conscious achievers who are seeking more community and connection, I've got an invitation for you. Join me at this year's Summit of Greatness this September 7th through 9th in my hometown of Columbus, Ohio to unleash your true greatness. This is the one time a year that I gather the greatness community together in person for a powerful transformative weekend. People come from all over the world and you can expect to hear from inspiring speakers like Inky Johnson, Jaspreet Singh, Vanessa Van Edwards, Jen Sincero, and many more. You'll also be able to
Starting point is 00:00:37 dance your heart out to live music, get your body moving with group workouts, and connect with others at our evening socials. So if you're ready to learn, heal, and grow alongside other incredible individuals in the greatness community, then you can learn more at lewishouse.com slash summit 2023. Make sure to grab your ticket, invite your friends, and I'll see you there. The reason why the world is falling in love with Jiu Jitsu is because it changes the practitioner's operating system more profoundly and in less time than any other activity that we know of. Every single time you step on the mat, you're being reprogrammed literally as to how you face adversity in your life.
Starting point is 00:01:26 Welcome to the School of Greatness. My name is Lewis Howes, a former pro athlete turned lifestyle entrepreneur. And each week we bring you an inspiring person or message to help you discover how to unlock your inner greatness. Thanks for spending some time with me today. Now let the class begin. greatness. Thanks for spending some time with me today. Now let the class begin. Welcome back everyone to the School of Greatness. Very excited about our guest. We have the inspiring Henner Gracie, who is a third generation Brazilian Jiu Jitsu master of the legendary
Starting point is 00:01:59 Gracie family. My man, so great to see you. And I just took my first jujitsu class from you 10 minutes ago. And I quickly realized that I'm inefficient as a human being. That if I get into a fight, probably I'm going to hurt someone the wrong way. Someone's going to hurt me the wrong way. And I don't have the skills that I thought I once had, you know, being a former pro football player, a decathlete, all American, a professional handball player with team USA as well, you know, training with Olympians and boxing. I, I actually realized how someone so much smaller than me with probably minimal skills and understanding of a Brazilian jiu-jitsu could probably, you know, destroy me in a one-to-one match with the right setting. And so thank you for letting me know of how much more I have to grow as a human being to really feel a sense of inner peace and
Starting point is 00:02:57 confidence. And I have inner peace until just now. So now I know that I need to master a new skill. Until just now. So now I know that I need to master a new skill. And especially with the world feeling sometimes out of control or our own worlds feeling out of control. When we learn how to master ourselves and learn the principles that you're going to talk about today, about this book, The 32 Principles, about harnessing the power of jiu-jitsu to succeed, not only in business and relationships, but in your life, then I feel you can have true inner peace. So I'm excited that you're here. And before we dive into the book and into the background of how you became a master through your family
Starting point is 00:03:39 and through your grandfather, who was, I guess, one of the founders of the UFC, why do you think Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is something that everyone should at least take a bootcamp of classes over any other type of fighting techniques? Yeah. Well, thank you for having me and thank you for trusting me to guide you in that first lesson. You didn't break my arm, which was good. Right. You didn't strangle me. I almost felt like us sitting down to talk about principles of jiu-jitsu applied to life and business and relationships,
Starting point is 00:04:13 it was hollow if you didn't know where all of my enthusiasm and where all of my passion came from. Yes. So I'm so happy that you trusted me to try jiu-jitsu today and have your first class. And the fact that it shattered some of your dreams, it reminded you of some of your vulnerabilities. It kind of like really just gave you a whole new perspective on where you live and where you exist in the world relative to other people with these skill sets. Yeah, here's the interesting thing, because I feel safe.
Starting point is 00:04:38 You know, when I walk around with my girlfriend, I feel like when I look around, I can take on anyone. when I went with my girlfriend, I feel like when I look around, I can take on anyone. Maybe it's like ego, or maybe it's just my ignorance or my naivety, or maybe it's just like, I work out hard. I train hard. I'm strong. I'm athletic. I can run away from stuff also. I know I can escape something if they can't grab me. Right. And so I just feel like I have awareness and if I need to, I can sprint and get out of it. But now noticing that if someone comes behind me and grabs me, I may not have that skill. If they put me in a chokehold real quick, I may not know what to do. And that's a scary thing, knowing that when there's a scenario that you could have control over, but you don't, that's a scary thing to be aware of. And it doesn't mean
Starting point is 00:05:22 I'm like terrified now. It just means, okay, there's more to learn. Well, and furthermore, you're not just feeling this idea of I could escape. I'm an athlete. That's one thing. There's another liability in all of this, which is if you were to get into a fight, because remember, if you run from the fight, your girlfriend is still behind you and she's not as fast as you. You can't leave her in the train station.
Starting point is 00:05:42 And while you run upstairs, she's in trouble too. So if a violent situation were to happen and you choose here and you're like well i would just punch from here what you have to realize is you break your hand you break their face as we discussed you brutalize the person so at the end of the fight even if you won the fight you lost the war because you go to the hospital with a broken hand and the medical bill and you get served that lawsuit later for excessive use of force because look how strong and big you are any jury's's going to look at you and say, why did you do that to the poor guy who spit on your girlfriend? You see what I'm saying? You went from being the victim to being the culprit. So you're a liability because up until this point in your life, starting today with your first jujitsu class, you only knew how to fight fire with fire. Starting today, you learn how to fight fire with water. Wow. Let's go. That's great,
Starting point is 00:06:46 man. You feel me? We'll put some of this B-roll in from it as well. We'll have the full workout and demonstration on another video linked up as well. Now, in terms of why it's addicting, right? In terms of what's all the buzz about, what's all the hype about in terms of jujitsu? I think it's very profound in everyone who does it, but for those who don't, it's very misunderstood. The reason why the world is falling in love with Jiu-Jitsu is because it changes the practitioner's operating system more profoundly and in less time than any other activity that we know of. Explain. Yes. So what that means is there are some profound psychological shifts, reprogramming that happens once you start doing jujitsu
Starting point is 00:07:33 that you'd be hard pressed to find anywhere else. And there are three. Number one, how you face your problems. Number two, how you face other people, problems. Number two, how you face other people, adversaries. And number three, how you face yourself. Okay. When we talk about facing your problems, conventionally speaking, if someone were to walk into this room right now and there were two people fighting, one person was on the top, one person was on the bottom, automatically the bottom person is losing the fight, top person is winning the fight. That's an automatic. Automatic. Two random people? Yeah. Even if we were fighting, even if you and I were fighting and I was on the bottom, right? They would walk in and say, look at this big guy on top of this little guy. He's losing, he's winning. It's automatic. Now in jujitsu, not only
Starting point is 00:08:18 is this not true, but in a very real sense, the opposite is true. Because jujitsu teaches us to be underneath in very uncomfortable positions and not only be comfortable, it's more than that. It teaches us to win in what so many others see as worst case scenarios. I demonstrated when I was under you and I was telling you to slap me in the head and you couldn't, how quickly I snuck into a triangle choke.
Starting point is 00:08:44 So you went from the dominant top position to tapping out in a matter of five seconds. And you didn't really know what happened to you. And my point is to the general public, they don't understand that you can be in a worst case scenario and win. And when you practice jujitsu, it reprograms your brain to that reality. Number two, how you face other people. Number two, how you face other people. From an evolutionary standpoint, larger members of a species consistently defeat smaller, weaker members of the same species. Larger gorilla annihilates the smaller gorilla when fighting for territory or a mate. A larger squirrel will annihilate a smaller squirrel, weaker squirrel when it's fighting
Starting point is 00:09:21 for a nut. This is normal. But humans are uniquely suited to violate the natural order of things, the biological natural order of things, to learn skills and process information that can actually give them a chance to defeat a larger, stronger member of the same species. And jiu-jitsu is proven over a hundred years now, the fastest way for someone to accomplish that. Wow. Number three, how you face yourself. 99.9% of the world, including all of the viewers watching right now and everyone listening right now, have never tried a jujitsu class because they don't feel capable. They feel too old. They feel too
Starting point is 00:10:06 young. They feel too fat. They feel too skinny, too tall, too short. Every excuse you can imagine, they're giving themselves those excuses as to why not to do jiu-jitsu. But for the lucky few who make it onto the mat, not only do they realize that their fears or their beliefs about their inabilities or incapabilities are not true they realize that they're more capable in the very bodies that they were born with than anything they ever imagined and the analogy i like to use is like a swiss army knife right every human being in the world I see as a Swiss army knife. But the crazy part is all of them are existing, having only ever used the knife feature.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Literally the knife, the blade. These people have no idea that they have a tweezer. They have a Phillips head. They have a nail file. They have a magnifying glass. They have scissors. And the actual most robust Swiss army knife, I looked it up a few nights ago, has 33 tools on it.
Starting point is 00:11:09 And what Jiu-Jitsu does is it teaches you how to use your body. You felt that today in ways that you never imagined possible to acquire leverage over your opponent. Wow. So every single time you step on the mat, you're being reprogrammed literally as to how you face adversity in your life. Number one, the problems you thought were insurmountable are surmountable. Number two, the people you thought were undefeatable are defeatable. And number three, the body you thought wasn't capable is capable. And this is
Starting point is 00:11:43 why Jiu Jitsu is so addicting because it makes what was never before possible, absolutely possible. And initially this reprogramming happens as a function of learning techniques. For example, today I put you down, I got on top of you. What would you do? You struggled. I can't, Henry, I don't know. Switch roles. And then I showed you a move and you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, that was awesome. And he did it. And you're like, all right, I believe that what I thought wasn't possible is possible. And then I showed you a move and you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, that was awesome. And he did it. And you're like, all right, I believe that what I thought wasn't possible is possible. And then I did it a second time and a third and a fourth and a fifth. And before you know it, all these techniques are giving you solutions, Lewis,
Starting point is 00:12:13 to problems that always existed that you never knew were surmountable, that were achievable and overcomable. So now you're like, man, this is amazing. Give me more techniques. And that addiction will last for several years, two or three years where you're like, man, this is amazing. Give me more techniques. And that addiction will last for several years, two or three years, where you're like, give me more moves to solve problems. But what eventually happens for every long-term jujitsu practitioner is they realize, after learning hundreds, eventually thousands of techniques, individual solutions to individual problems, is they realize that there are fundamental techniques that hold this entire thing together. A rather limited set of 32 principles make every one of those techniques possible. So essentially, we have an alphabet to our jiu-jitsu. You become capable of creating techniques in situations where you don't have a technique for. And it becomes magical.
Starting point is 00:13:12 You could put me in any position right now on the ground, hold me however you wanted. If I know a technique, I'll deploy it. If I don't know it, I'll make it up on the spot as a function of the foundational principles that make all the moves possible. And then once I create a technique using two, three, five, any selection of these principles, I'll make it up on the spot. You will be blown away because you'll think it's a move that I've
Starting point is 00:13:31 known for years, but I just made it up right now. And this ability to improvise is only possible once you become a student and a practitioner of the principles of Jiu Jitsu. And then the real breakthrough happens when you realize that these 32 principles are not limited in their deployment in combat situations, but that they have equal potency in every aspect of personal and professional life. There's so much I wanted to ask you about during that. But first I heard you say there's three main things that you face. You face your problem or how you face your problem, how you face other people and how you face yourself, right? Is that the three? That's exactly right.
Starting point is 00:14:11 What is the biggest problem that you face today? That's a great question. Of these three, is it other people, yourself, or a problem? The biggest problem I face today is one that we are tackling together right now, is we have the most powerful fighting system known to man ever in terms of jiu-jitsu. And when I say most powerful, I'm not saying other arts aren't valuable. I'm saying the one that can do the most for the people with the least. Really? Yes. That's what makes jiu-jitsu the best. How many martial arts practices are there? Good question.
Starting point is 00:14:46 I would say- What are the main? Well, I would say, yeah, you're talking about the karate, Kung Fu, Taekwondo, kickboxing, boxing, Judo, Sumo, wrestling, Savate, shoot fighting. Then you start to get variations of those. Those are the ones, Jiu-Jitsu. But maybe there's 10. Yeah, I would say 10 to 20, just because I don't want to be Krav Maga.
Starting point is 00:15:02 But then each one of those has different denominations of the same religion the same religion, right? There's like other variations of it. So there are dozens and dozens of martial arts and they all have great things to offer. And if you trace back to the roots of what each one was designed for, they neutralized that particular concern. We just happen to be lucky in jujitsu that ours was designed by our grandmasters, Elio and Carlos Gracie, to help a smaller, weaker person prevail against a giant. That was it. That's all that had to happen. Small, weak men against larger, stronger, aggressive, crazier, meaner, uglier men. And then eventually the spillover to women and children is automatic because women in a self-defense situation or a child in a bullying encounter,
Starting point is 00:15:45 they need equally efficient solutions. But to your question, what's the problem? The problem is this, we have the most powerful martial art on the planet. We have the most powerful promotional vehicles for this martial art, the UFC. Wow. You got Joe Rogan, you got Jocko. Now we got Lewis in the School of greatness advocating for jujitsu. And you see it in movies now at Avatar.
Starting point is 00:16:08 The guy on the scene on top of the mountain, he chokes out the dragon that he strangles. And then he submits it. And then he rides the thing. That's jujitsu influence in the movie. So the point is we have the most powerful art, the most powerful promotion vehicles, but yet 99.9% of the human population has never stepped foot on the mat. So my biggest problem that I face is as someone who is very proud of being a member of this iconic family that bring this art to America and to the world, my job isn't done until everyone is doing jujitsu. And the reasons they don't do it,
Starting point is 00:16:44 I named a few, there are are others but it's my job to not only make it desirable and known to everyone by introducing people like yourself to the art and showing that introduction and showing that it's safe and it's fun and it's effective and anyone can do it and all of their fears are unfounded but also to create the vehicles through which the world can learn jiu-jitsu in a safe and structured way. Because there are lots of Jiu-Jitsu schools, and unfortunately, it's such an unregulated industry that many of them teach Jiu-Jitsu in ways that are both confusing, unsafe. Injuries happen quite frequently. And also contextual relevance isn't always the case when people are learning.
Starting point is 00:17:24 There's a lot of emphasis on aspects of Jiu-jitsu that do not give a brand new student the sense of confidence and empowerment that you were introduced to today and that we try to do with every one of our students that we help learn this art. What, so of all the, you know, call it 20, 30 different martial arts, you get a black belt, the same size in jujitsu versus a black belt of the same size and weight and shape in another martial arts. The other top martial arts, which one typically would win? Jiu-jitsu every time.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Really? A hundred years have proven it. Really? That's what we've done, Lewis. This is the whole point. Wow. This is why we're sitting here today. This is why you know about the UFC.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Yes. This is why the UFC was born. This is why we're sitting here today. This is why you know about the UFC. This is why the UFC was born. This is why the UFC had staying power. This is why the Gracie family is known all over the world. This is why the US Army completely rewrote their hand-to-hand combat manual to be based on Gracie combatives and Brazilian jujitsu techniques that we taught them 20 plus years ago when the UFC first came out, or now 30 years. So this is the whole point. This is why this is so remarkable. And I'm saying this not to be boastful. I'm saying this out of pride and excitement of the fact that I'm part of a family
Starting point is 00:18:33 that has completely flipped martial arts on its head. And when people ask, what's the biggest thing that the Gracie family has done? I think that we, the Gracie family has completely violated and redefined the distance from which a fight is fought. For the longest time, you think Chuck Norris, Bruce Lee, movies, Hollywood, really influenced, but they're doing what looks good on camera. And as any actor or fight choreographer will tell you, what looks good on camera and what really works are two separate things, right?
Starting point is 00:18:59 Like my wife worked for the WWE for six years. So camera versus reality, it's a whole different world. It doesn't look good when you're just laying on top of someone. No, it's not glorious. It's unremarkable. It's boring. Now, why though when I watch the UFC or the Ultimate Fighter, it seems to me like they're always standing up
Starting point is 00:19:16 and they're always punching, kicking. They're keeping their distance. They're trying to get the elbows in the face. So what has happened? Why don't they just all do Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu? It's been 30 years. They all do Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. So, for example, my brother and I are both black belts,
Starting point is 00:19:34 and when we spar, it's like two grizzly bears. And no one really has an advantage. If you make one mistake, you get caught. But for the most part, it's a draw, like very tight. And it wasn't always. I'll tell you that story separately. He beat me up for many years years and then I had a breakthrough. But the point is, it's very neutralized. So what you see today is everyone does Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.
Starting point is 00:19:53 They're all great at it. Everyone's great at wrestling. Everyone's great at kickboxing, right? But here's the whole point. In the world, the population of the world, not everyone can kickbox because we don't want to get punched in the nose. And not everyone can wrestle because it's a relentless sport that is incredibly unforgiving. And there's a reason why you graduate high school and you're done wrestling. Maybe a little college, but after that, your body simply can't take it. And it's injurious.
Starting point is 00:20:18 It's so intense. Unlike jiu-jitsu, which my grandfather did till 95 years old on the farm, training till the very end. So the beauty is MMA is a great vehicle for promoting jiu-jitsu and the arts, but the general public looks at that and what they say, Lewis, is they go, I don't want to get down. I don't want to do this. It's too violent. I don't want to do videos of how these techniques come to life like we did today. We're the technical side of it.
Starting point is 00:20:51 And then my goal and my cry at the end of every video is, listen, it is for you. You can do Jiu-Jitsu. You can do Jiu-Jitsu. It's for all of us. But someone has to convince them to get off the couch, step on the mat for the first time. And the teacher that is trusted with that first class has to make sure they don't get hurt. They're safe. And what they learn makes sense to them. Like it did for you today, where you say, wow, when's class number two, these three more, you feel me? There you go. I give you the first
Starting point is 00:21:21 class for free. You get hooked and then I'll catch you on the back end. But my point is it's so easy to ruin it. But when you ask my biggest problem, that's my biggest problem. The best martial art on the planet, the biggest promotional vehicles, and 99.9% of the population has never tried a class. And my job is to flip that so that only 0.1% is remaining when I'm done. Wow. So did your grandfather start this martial art or how did this actually come about where he learned these things and made it a thing? Yeah. So my great uncle Carlos Gracie was introduced to jujitsu as it was practiced in Japan by a Japanese immigrant who went to Brazil. Once he learned this Japanese art, he became very fanatical about it. He loved it.
Starting point is 00:22:08 But Carlos was the oldest brother. My grandfather was the youngest brother. So while his older brothers started practicing and were quite effective in their practice and having fun, they started teaching it in Brazil. My grandfather was the little runt of the family and doctors prohibited him from doing any athletic activity because he suffered from vertigo type of the conditions where he could run and he would pass out from exhaustion. So he was limited. So he dropped out of school in the third grade. And then he basically is sitting watching his brothers practice all day, every day as a matter of course. So his brothers were training. He was only observant. One day, a student showed up for a private class with Carlos, the oldest brother. But my grandfather was there to watch, but Carlos was absent. So the student says, he's just there. Carlos, no Carlos, no Carlos. And you,
Starting point is 00:22:45 my grandfather was there to observe around 16 years old. And as you said, Hey, Carlos isn't here. If you would like to, I'll go through the class with you and just go through the techniques until my brother shows up. What do you say? And the man, much older gentleman said, yeah, of course, kid, let's go. They do the class. They complete the class. Carlos shows up very apologetic at the end. And then the student says, Hey, no problem. In fact, I had a class with your younger brother and if you don't mind I would like to keep training with him from now on so a student promoted my grandfather to a teacher then off he went he's having the best time of his life learning jujitsu but he's realizing there's certain limitations in these techniques for his body that made it difficult with his limited physique to be effective
Starting point is 00:23:23 so adaptations began. So that was the Japanese jiu-jitsu. Yes, kind of coming in. Yes. And now you're transitioning back there. So what's happening is the emphasis and the techniques and the prioritization of leverage and timing and patience and energy efficiency over brute strength and speed and power, that shift is happening in their hands. And my grandfather went from the youngest brother to becoming the family champion such that Carlos was now organizing challenge matches against every martial artist you can imagine in Brazil.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Wow. It was challenged by my grandfather. Some accepted, some did not. The brown bomber, Joe Lewis, the heavyweight boxing champion in America, went to Brazil. My grandfather challenged Joe to a fight, and Joe denied, did not accept the challenge. So this is what's happening in Brazil during this era, way before the UFC was ever even dreamt of. So then my dad is born into this legacy of fighting and his brothers. My grandfather had nine children.
Starting point is 00:24:12 Carlos had 21 children, 30 kids, 105 grandchildren between the two of them, including myself. So my dad is born into this fighting legacy from day one. You're learning jujitsu. He comes to America after graduating law school in Brazil, comes to America in 1978, gets established right down here in Hermosa Beach, Southern California. And every person he meets, he invites for a free class. And then that person invites another friend. They get a free class. The friend gets a free class. Everyone you tell gets a free class. And before you know it, the garage is full. And during that time, challenge matches are happening where people who practice multiple martial arts are like,
Starting point is 00:24:46 hey, they go tell their karate master, come to Torrance and come try this. Come to Hermosa Beach. This jiu-jitsu stuff is really good. The karate master says, no, I don't agree with it. I don't think it would work on me. They come back and tell my dad, yo, my master doesn't think this would work on them. And my dad goes, hey, well, tell your master. And if he ever wants to try it out, it'd be my pleasure. And then the master gets told that and they say yeah i accept the challenge and then they show up in the garage and these challenge matches are happening no rules no referee it's just a fight on a mat anything goes do whatever you want we fight until someone's knocked out broken or taps out or gives up whatever it is and they would get choked out like this time and time oh my gosh bro these guys are practicing
Starting point is 00:25:21 breaking boards for 30 years they simply cannot believe that they cannot land one punch for their life. They can't land one? One. Why can't they? Distance management, like I showed you when we talked about the Mike Tyson situation in our class. Whoever manages the distance manages the damage that can be done. Distance manages the damage that can be done. And the reason why people get knocked out in fight is because they stand at the striking range. You know this from being a boxer. Yes.
Starting point is 00:25:50 From standing at a striking range, and they give and they get, and they give and they get. But if I stand too far away, meaning six feet away, too arm length, you can't punch or kick me. If you're too close, you can't get a great punch. Yes. And when you come towards me, Lewis, to try to punch me, I come in. Yeah. And I do so without any warning or notice. And I got you now and I've grabbed ahold of you.
Starting point is 00:26:09 And all it takes is one. So for you, you have to hit me and knock me out. And that's a very hard, you can throw a hundred punches and never knock me out. I just have to grab you once. Right, right. And if I grab you, your life is over. Unless I choose to spare your life, which I will because I'm a compassionate human being. But my point is, I can do whatever I want with you once I grab you one time. And this is what
Starting point is 00:26:30 happened in all these challenge matches. So you, right now, versus Mike Tyson in his prime, you would win every time? You got to choose where to put your money. But that's what you believe? I'd put my house, all my kids, all my money, everything I own, own i put on that and i double it the next day wow unless he got lucky with one punch yes my point is this he has to get lucky with one punch which if you see two professional boxers boxing how hard is that it's hard to get that punch hard right and if i stand six feet away there is no punch and then when i close the distance and i grab over these punches are no longer powerful because i'm too
Starting point is 00:27:02 close wow and to be clear hoist challenged Mike at his prime. Hoist, there was a challenge where Hoist Gracie challenged Mike Tyson publicly, and Mike did not accept the challenge at his boxing prime. So this has already happened, and Mike knows. Unless it was boxing rules. Of course. No, but it's suicide. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:19 The same way MMA, or what we now call MMA, but back then, is normal valetudo, which is called everything goes in Portuguese. Vale tudo, Mike, versus any member of the Gracie family, you know, and their athletic, healthy, you know, state of 25, 35, 40 years old, Mike has no cheers. And he knows this, and he respects this because he's playing a sport. Boxing is a sport. It's one sliver of a fight.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Jiu-jitsu is a complete fighting system that covers the striking, the distance management, the distance closure, the taking the fight to the ground, on the ground, whether we're on top or on bottom, whether you're striking me or not makes no difference. If you practice Jiu-Jitsu in its fullest form, you have control of every aspect of the fight. Have you ever had to use this in the real world? Yeah. Like out in public? Have you ever had to submit someone? the real world? Yeah. Like out in public? Have you ever had to submit someone? 12 years old. Really? 12 years old. As an adult, have you had to also or
Starting point is 00:28:11 no? Yes. Here's the irony of it all. So when I was 12, I fought. When I was- Like out in the streets. Yes. When I was 35, I verbally deescalated because I knew how to fight. Right. That's the key in all of this. The number one skill everyone listening and watching right now needs for self-defense is the ability to set boundaries. Yeah. It's so critical. And this isn't true with just strangers.
Starting point is 00:28:38 It's also true in our personal relationships, in our intimate relationships, right? So important. Boundary setting. But let's take it to the self-defense realm for a second. What was this at 35? What happened? Oh, I'm going to tell you, but I'm going to frame it. Okay. Okay. So self-defense is boundary setting because let's say you're a woman at a gas station pumping gas and someone is walking towards you. You don't know who they are. They might be even nicely dressed. Let's just make it less
Starting point is 00:29:01 suspicious. There's a normal looking guy walking towards you. Yeah. For a woman in that situation. Non-threatening. No, we don't know. We don't know. That's the whole it less suspicious. There's a normal looking guy walking towards her. For a woman in that situation- Non-threatening. No, we don't know. We don't know. That's the whole point. A woman doesn't know. But let's say her senses tell her, doesn't feel right. There's nobody else in the gas station. He's moving directly towards her. There's no car next to you. There's no store over there. He's not, where is he going? So if she starts to feel that feeling, the number one thing she must do is turn and look directly at him and say, don't get any closer. Wow. Set a boundary. Stay right there. If he takes one
Starting point is 00:29:31 more step, I said, don't get any closer. She has to escalate because when you set a boundary, you've now created the opportunity to reveal intention. If you don't set a boundary, you've now created the opportunity to reveal intention. If you don't set a boundary, you don't ever have a way of assessing truly the intention. If you say, hey, don't get any closer. And he backs up and says, I'm so sorry, ma'am, you dropped this. I was going to give it to you, but I can see that I shouldn't have walked towards you when you're by yourself. I'm so sorry. I'll leave it here. No harm, no foul. Everyone's happy. Everyone went home safely. Amazing. Or if you say, hey, don't step any closer. And he takes one more step by saying, but ma'am, I just want to make sure if you need any help. I don't need
Starting point is 00:30:16 any help. Stay where you are. You see how he tried to give her the runaround, the conversational web, we call this. When he tries to give her that runaround and wrap her into that web of random mumbo jumbo question and answer, just random conversation to trick her to get closer. He's trying to get closer so he can take action without being detected. The point is you'll never know that it's game on until you set that boundary. So when we teach women, when we teach children dealing with bullies, and even when we teach men in a road rage incident, I'm going to say, guys, you got to get out of the car. He might be upset. You need to tell him, stay right where you are.
Starting point is 00:30:50 I can see you're upset. I'm going to take my car out of this parking spot because I know you can see that you think it was your spot, but don't take one step closer. And if he takes another step, guess what? It's on. Do you understand? You set a boundary. You reveal the intentions. Here's the problem.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Here's the problem, Louis. It gets worse. Whether it's a child, whether it's a woman, whether it's a man, people don't set boundaries that they aren't capable of enforcing. They're false boundaries. Yeah, they're hollow.
Starting point is 00:31:20 You can't say, don't take one more step. If them taking one more step your whole system's gonna get a hard wire and you're gonna trip out and run in circles and run do you understand you don't have the backup so here's what this is all about learn how to fight so you never have to fight yes that's the whole game i don't get into fights as an adult because i'm so empowered with jujitsu that there isn't an altercation that i can't verbally de-escalate it doesn't exist unless someone is in the act of violently assaulting someone yes in which case i will intervene and
Starting point is 00:31:59 put out that fire with water and compassion and i'll protect the aggressor i'll protect the victim and i'll protect myself we all go home no. No one goes to the hospital. That's my ability and my commitment. If I have to intervene. So unless of course I have to use a higher level, but not to say that if I don't catch you in an arm bar and you have a knife in your hand, the arm is coming off until you drop the knife. I'll take the arm off and I'll go home and hang it on my mantle. So to be clear, I have the ability, but I also have the ability to do everything i want to do without hurting anyone yes and you you never had to have you ever had to intervene in a fight so the situation that i had i was at the i was at the um anaheim house of blues for an ozo motley concert
Starting point is 00:32:36 amazing band uh uli the head one of the head guys there is a black belt of ours he was performing and i was in the crowd as me and my wife and there's a guy next to me who literally created his own mosh pit just banging people yeah and i'm like no one is moshing right now and i'm not even in the front i'm like way back like where the bar is i don't drink right just water and watermelon juice but like i'm back where the bar is and i'm hanging out like getting a good view like a good eye level and he's just throwing a mosh and in my mind i'm like i move, but he will make someone else's life uncomfortable. You feel me? Like this is inappropriate. He's just, he's tripping on some drugs or alcohol or both. And I said, if he bumps me one more time, I will have to make this clear.
Starting point is 00:33:18 He bumped you. Bro, it was crazy. So yeah. so he freaking comes in. He bumps again. Boom, he hits me again. Right next to him, I grab him by the neck. And I say, hey, bud, I see you're having a really good time. Wow. I said, but do me a favor. Do not bump into me one more time or we're going to have to dance.
Starting point is 00:33:47 What is it? And then I alleviated my squeeze. What happened? Okay. And there was no more mosh pit. Wow. You never had to get in a fight then. You've always been able to de-escalate. I've had some challenge matches
Starting point is 00:34:03 where guys come into the school and say, I believe in kickboxing. I believe in jiu-jitsu. Let's fight. Boom, so some of those. But out in the street, I have not, not in my recollection. Right. Except for the challenge matches and the fight when I was younger, when I was a kid.
Starting point is 00:34:13 And then every week we put on gloves and we punch each other while we practice in a safe way. But yeah, not really having to. Yeah. Nothing out in the street. That's what I mean. Because that's the challenge, right? And when you, it's almost like, imagine if I carried a gun everywhere.
Starting point is 00:34:26 You feel me? Always. And I spoke to people as if I had a gun. How many fights do you think I would get it? None. Right. Because they know I have a gun. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:40 I don't carry a gun, but I carry the confidence of someone who has a gun. So I speak the same way. Right. And they feel it. And if anything push comes to shove, right? If the combative energy of a interaction starts to escalate, calm assertive, right? Cesar Millan, who I've taught as well. Yeah, he's great. Calm assertive. Listen, man, I can see you're having a good time. Do me a favor. Don't bump into me one more time or it's going to be a problem. Yeah. And when you talk like that, he thinks either I have a gun or I have a jujitsu black belt. He doesn't know.
Starting point is 00:35:10 And he doesn't want to pay to find out. What is someone with your type of skill sets and your decades of experience and training, not only you mastering it for yourself, but also you teaching and empowering others to become black belts eventually and watching them overcome challenges. What does someone like yourself deal with insecurity? Do you have insecurities still that you face? Is it a different type of insecurity or fears that you face with this? Or is it just less and more confidence than without the black belt or without the training? The heavy question.
Starting point is 00:35:49 When we talk about my insecurities or my fears, I think my biggest fear is letting my sons down. You feel me? Like we get one go at this. I have two boys, seven and four. And I'm like, I've seen a lot of people kind of play their movies out and, and, and the movie ends in a way that, you know, was not either what they wanted or what they intended. I have a vision for how my movie ends and where it goes. And my biggest fear is that I fall short of how I anticipate my movie going, right? When it comes to, um, right.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Living up to, I think my kids expectation of me or living up to my full potential as a father, as a husband. Um, that's my only big fear, big insecurity. Uh, other than that professionally, it's very good. I've achieved heights that I never imagined would be possible from someone who grew up in a martial arts family, for all intended purposes, a karate family to the general public, wearing a uniform and practicing jujitsu moves on the mat, never went to college, no degree, but now sitting at the helm of multiple, uh, very successful businesses in and out of jujitsu. So professionally, I'm very happy. Um, relational relationship wise, it's great. I have a wonderful marriage with a wife that I've been with for over a decade now.
Starting point is 00:37:16 And it's just, everything is great. Right. So for me, it's like, how does this movie end? Where do I go? And do I continue to be the father to them that I know I can be? And I just want to let them down and that's it. it or they improve it? Or are people in jujitsu single and divorced? Are they more like, okay, they see the value of actually committing and being in an intimate relationship and honoring your partner. How is the community overall with healthy conscious relationships? And what does it teach you about intimacy? Great question. There is a very common thing that occurs on the green mats in jujitsu heaven here at our school, the tour is called Gracie University. Very common thing, which is when people, men in particular, stop coming to class for a while. I'd say they stub a toe,
Starting point is 00:38:22 they professionally, they get caught up with a work mission, two or three weeks go by, their wives are the ones who tell them to go back to class. So that should tell you something. Patience, humility, patience, the energy, letting that energy out, that physical release of jujitsu, all the principles that we talk about in the book, that are reinforced every single day, the problem-solving principles, the clock principle, the win-wins, all of these aspects that are so prominent on the mat leak into every aspect of our lives. We become better fathers, better husbands, better brothers, better bosses, better employees, every aspect of our lives. We become better fathers, better husbands, better brothers, better bosses, better employees, every aspect of your life.
Starting point is 00:39:10 You will be a better performer in that capacity with the principles of jujitsu in your arsenal, in your problem-solving arsenal. Because when you deal with adversity in the unique and effective ways that jujitsu deals with adversity on a daily basis, you can't not allow it to spill into every other aspect of your life. Once you're efficient somewhere, you're efficient everywhere. How you are anywhere is how you are everywhere. And jujitsu, it just reprograms us in the ways that i already explained such that when you go home or you go to the office or you're existing anywhere else you're not you're not the same human being anymore you're different you're wired differently and this is where the addiction comes from right
Starting point is 00:39:55 it becomes a new source of your right your your mental and psychological programming and if you detach from it for an extended period of time it it's a perishable skill, right? It's a perishable relationship. So it's one that we want to keep close to heart at all times. And the regular practice will constantly reinforce that. What are the principles of jujitsu that teach an individual how to gain more confidence and how to understand and really know the psychology of any human being they interact with? Great question. There isn't a principle that teaches confidence. There is an art that when practiced unavoidably builds confidence in the practitioner. We have a student, Maximo, a young kid, maybe 10 years old, has been bullied for three years now. Incessant bullying. It's affecting
Starting point is 00:40:45 the parents. It's affecting the family. They've talked to the school. They've talked to the principals. They're on the brink of pulling this kid out of school. And then we came into the summer break right now. So it's a little breather, but they're literally on the fence. And they came in to Gracie University. And the mom is, again, what do we do? But they saw a video online of a transformation for a bullying victim that we did where we flew a kid from Indiana and we transformed him in one week after getting pummeled on a video in the locker bay. We transformed this young man named Austin, went home, never had problems with bullying again, completely transformed his life,
Starting point is 00:41:18 became a US Marine, absolute stud. Wow. And her whole life changed at Gracie University. So anyways, they saw that video. They showed Maximal and he liked the video and he, I want to go, I want to do this. So he came to class, starts doing jiu-jitsu with us. It's been just the summer right now. He has two stripes on his white belt, which is like 20 classes. So very new. He was at Junior Guards, which is a lifeguard training program. He's a very good swimmer. And a friend, him and Ozzy, his friend were hanging out. And another boy came over and was bullying Maximo. So he was being quite aggressive with him, making inappropriate jokes and really making fun of him. And then Ozzy stands up and says,
Starting point is 00:41:59 hey man, leave him alone. Kind of just steps in and intervenes there. And then the bully turns and starts attacking Ozzy, physically and verbally. And then this is Maximo's moment of truth. Oh, wow. Because he never asserted himself ever against this opposition, against this type of aggression. So he stands up, he puts himself between Ozzy and the bully and says, hey, if you're messing with him, you're messing with me. The guy throws his hands up, mumbles something, turns and walks off. Wow. For the first time in his life, Maximo just learned that on the other side of setting a boundary with powerful voice, powerful eyes, and powerful posture is freedom.'s free he's free the mom came in i couldn't believe it henner we celebrated this wow unbelievable everything you guys said worked exactly as
Starting point is 00:42:54 we mentioned but again the only way he was able to set this boundary was because he had spent 20 hours building the skills to feel like no if you want to want to get down, we get down. So the jujitsu that he learned, learning how to fight, prevented him from having to fight. And if he ever has to get down, he's ready. He knows that, which is why he can set that boundary. Do you feel like you ever face a battle or a war in your own mind? Or do you feel like, you know, whenever there's an adversity, you have a sense of peace and confidence that you'll be able to figure it out because you've just been through adversity so much? Or do you have anxiety and stress?
Starting point is 00:43:28 No, I don't. There are stressful moments, right? When it all comes at the same time, you go, okay, the stress is having multiple opportunities, sometimes positive opportunities and not knowing where to shuffle and spend your time from a leader of multiple businesses. So I deal with, like everyone, I just have a lot going on and I got to choose. So that's kind of like a eustress versus the distress, which is the one that you're kind of overwhelmed by in a negative way. But in terms of what's going through my head throughout this process, it always is a faith, a trust that, hey, no, no, no, I've been in way worse in fights against guys that are 300 pounds. Yeah. Upside down on your head.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Headlock smashing, guy on top of me, sweating on me, and I'm down there. And all I'm thinking is, oh, he makes one mistake. I'm coming out and I'm going to get him on the chokehold on the way out. Wow. No problem. I've been here before. Really? So in life, when it's all coming at you, all I'm saying is, this is the bottom of the mount. It's okay. Bottom of the mount is not the best place to be in a fight, but because of jujitsu, it's also not the worst's going to shift. The opportunity will present itself and the circumstances will change. And when they change, my opportunity will present itself.
Starting point is 00:44:50 I literally live that every single day in jujitsu. When things are not favorable, they will become favorable. You just must be patient and you just must wait for the opportunity if it's not an actionable opportunity available to you right now. It will be there. So in life, when it feels like it's all coming from every angle, I just sometimes would just breathe, say, okay, right now, what am I going to focus my energy on? I might be neglecting 20 other things in my life, but I got to do this right now. So this is what I choose. And I commit to this. This is the technique I'm going to apply right now. If it pans out, great. If halfway through my application of this life technique,
Starting point is 00:45:31 it doesn't pan out, I will pivot principle, principle 21. And off we go. And that's okay. And I'll pivot then. But I'm not going to stress now about whether or not this is going to pan out fully because I know when the circumstances change, I am also capable of change in that moment. Wow. You've got 32 principles that you've learned from your family history, from the martial arts history in jujitsu. And there's five that I wanted to cover today. Yeah, let's talk about some. to tap into and start to say, how can I apply this to my life right now? What are a few key principles to give me more confidence, to give me more poise, to give me more focus, more commitment in my life? I love it. To be able to handle adversity, what would these few be? And there's one called the clock principle. I want to get into it. You mentioned this before already that recognizing that the right move at the wrong time is the wrong move. Can you give me one example of what that is and how we can apply this to our life? Sure. So there are 32 principles we've
Starting point is 00:46:30 identified. Clock principle being one critical important in terms of timing, right? Timing in a fight, as you would imagine, it's everything. That spills over into our personal and professional lives as well. I had a situation where one time a psychologist who trained with us, a student of ours, a female psychologist, recommended a student to us. She said, Henner, I have a student, his name is Shane, young man, teenager, 16 years old, who suffers from the most severe case of social anxiety that I've ever seen as a doctor. He vomits profusely in going into any situation where there's any type of social aspect of it. And I think Jutu would be great for him, build his confidence. I said, great, bring him in. Thursday, talked to his mom. We scheduled for Thursday. I scheduled for a time
Starting point is 00:47:12 where there was no one in the building. So he would be no trouble stepping in and getting a tour. Mom calls me at 4.05, 4.10, five minutes after we're supposed to start the class and says, Henner, sorry, we're not going to make it. I said, what do you mean? Where are you? She said, I'm outside in the parking lot, but we're not coming in. He's terrified. He can't do it. Wow. I said, hold on. You're outside my building right now? She said, yeah, that's me right there. I said, hold on. Can I come say hi? Yes. I walk out. I get to the car. As I approach the car on the passenger side, it's parked on the streets of the curb. I hear the most intense gut cry I've ever heard. Screaming, crying. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Breathing, but crying, forcing it out. And I look at the mom and I say, I'm completely shocked in this moment. I've never experienced this before. I've never dealt with extreme social anxiety like this. And I'm looking at the mother standing outside the car on the passenger side to greet me. I don't know what to do. This is a situation you have to understand, Louis. When you put it in jutsu context, I'm on the bottom of a trapping bad situation and I don't have the technique. I don't have the technique. You don't have the skills or the tools.
Starting point is 00:48:12 I don't know the move, but I have the principles. So in this moment, full trust that if I commit to the process, the principles will set me free. So in this moment, I see her and I said, look, can I go in the car? She says, yeah, of course. So I go to the passenger side. I open the door. I sit in the chair, backseat, passenger side. He's over here. I'm sorry, passenger side. I'm on the driver's side. And he doubled over crying like this. And I'm just sitting watching him in the backseat here.
Starting point is 00:48:41 20 minutes. I don't say a word. Holy cow. Depletion principle. Sometimes the best way to win is just to avoid losing. Let them deplete themselves. Their energy. Yes.
Starting point is 00:48:55 You let them go. Imagine if I would have felt I had to hurry this up and get them in there. Never would have worked. Right. So I trusted in this moment as I do every day in jujitsu,
Starting point is 00:49:04 wait, deplete. The time will present itself. Wow. So I trusted in this moment as I do every day in jujitsu, wait, deplete, the time will present itself. So I'm sitting 20 minutes later, he sits up, ran out of steam. And then I'm here. What's up, buddy? I said, hey, bro, what do you like to do for fun? Redirection principle video games i said tell me more 15 minutes we're talking about video games i know nothing about time for video games i don't play video games i have no idea what he's talking about just asking questions about video games he's telling me his whole life about video games loves him he's all animated like he's dry. Now we're connecting. Boom. Once I felt that we were here. Connection principle, principle one. There was a real connection in that car. We were now socially connecting about video games, something he loved that I redirected him towards.
Starting point is 00:49:56 I said, hey, Shane, thanks for coming in. I said, we have a really nice facility and I'd love to give you a tour if you'll let me. Beautiful. Just show you around. What do you think? He went like this. Okay. That's cool. I said, let's go. We get out of the car. We walk, we go in. I tour the museum, show some artifacts. I walked to the building. In my mind at this point, all I'm thinking is he cannot leave this building without doing jiu-jitsu today. Wow. I'm telling you, I'm sweating bullets inside.
Starting point is 00:50:29 How do I get it? I got to get him on the mat. I got to get him to do jiu-jitsu. One thing. But if I say, hey, dude, you want to learn jiu-jitsu? He's running to the car, throwing up on the way I can imagine, right? So this is a high stress, we'll call it, an intense encounter where i'm on the fly pulling from my life of jiu-jitsu on the mats principles to try to get this accomplished what i'm aiming to do for this kid because if
Starting point is 00:50:53 he leaves without doing jiu-jitsu today he's not coming back never we're gonna miss our window so i walk in the locker room i show him our beautiful locker rooms like a like a spa beautiful school go outside we're passing by the private training room. It's a room about this big, matted from wall to wall, mats on the floor. I open the door. I step in. Clock principle, the right move at the right time. I step on the mats with my feet, bare feet. And I say, hey Shane, these mats are really, really soft. You should feel them. Take off your shoes and check this out. He complies. He walks in, steps on. I'm like, how about that? He's like, yeah, it's really soft. I'm like, cool. Mom,
Starting point is 00:51:31 come on in. Shut the door. Got him. Wow. I say, mom, have a seat. Shane, lay down in the middle right here. The exact same technique I showed you today. I mounted on him. We're friends now. We're connected. And I'm getting very uncomfortable because I'm going to save this kid's life. That's my mindset. There's nothing that I wasn't willing to do in order to empower and free him from the condition that he's suffering from. Do you understand? Like, I'll be uncomfortable to save him.
Starting point is 00:52:03 So I mount on him, which, again, I don't know what he's going to react. Maybe he's going to crick and scream. So I mount on him with the biggest, again, I don't know what he's going to react. Maybe he's going to crick and scream. I don't know. So I mount on him with the biggest smile on my face and all the love in my heart. And I say, Shane, what would you do if someone was on top of you? Like, the smile I love. He was like, I'll push you off. I'm like, give it a go. 10, 9, 8, 7. He's trying hard. I'm watching his senses the whole time, verifying that he's, I'm connecting here. I'm making sure he's okay. He's fine. Fine. I can't get out. Okay, cool. Let's switch roles. I toss him off in one second with the trap and roll. You know the move.
Starting point is 00:52:27 Click. He's like, oh, man, do it again. I do it again. He can't believe it. I show him second move, third move, fourth move, fifth move. An hour later, we're having the best time. He's doing jiu-jitsu. I look over to the corner.
Starting point is 00:52:39 His mom is crying quietly. Tears just falling. It's amazing. Doesn't say a word. The whole class. And I'm like, I could not believe it. I get up, we shake hands. Hey, let's see you guys on Tuesday, right? The next class. Next class, it only takes him 15 minutes to get out of the car. The third class, he comes back half the time. He goes into the locker room, he throws up, comes out ready to rock. We're getting
Starting point is 00:53:02 in there. I eventually transitioned him to another one of our certified instructors who guides him for the next several months. He goes into group classes now with other people practicing. He eventually earns his blue belt in jujitsu, graduates high school, goes to college, lives a normal life, has regular friendships, and is now having a great life. The doctor has said, Henner, I've never seen this type of turnaround for this particular condition, this level of social anxiety. I've never seen it. This is incredible. Congratulations and thank you. And she's sent us so many other students since then. That's cool. Then they start in private classes. Then we gradually introduce them. So this is depletion. This is redirection principle all in the book. This is connection principle using every resource we have to connect with them in a way that's meaningful for them. So this is depletion. This is redirection principle, all in the book. This is connection
Starting point is 00:53:45 principle, using every resource we have to connect with them in a way that's meaningful for them. Yes. This is the clock principle above all, I believe. Because for me to be in there, not sure what I was going to do with this kid. And then the moment I was on the mat saying, hey, take off your shoes, come feel this. The right move at the right time will set you free. And that's what happened with Shane. That's a beautiful story, man. On this fateful morning. I love that story, man. That's beautiful. Again, the 32 principles. This is about harnessing the power of jujitsu to succeed in business, relationships, and life. Make sure you guys get this by Henner Gracie. It's an awesome book and an awesome introduction to
Starting point is 00:54:20 just more philosophies about jujitsu and how you can apply them to your life. The last one I want to talk about, again, there's 32 of them. We're going to talk about a few today, but the last one is really the grandmaster principle. Now, what is the grandmaster principle and what does it take for anyone to be a grandmaster of their own life? So let me say this, as I was developing the curriculum of the 32 principles with my brother, we got to the point where we hadn't identified, because we did not invent principles, right? Principles, gravity always existed. You revealed them. We revealed them and we classified them and we named them and then we put them into a curriculum. So as we're going through this
Starting point is 00:55:00 rigorous process of identifying these principles over an extended period of time and trying to create a a cohesive curriculum surrounding them we got to 31 and then i ran out and i'm thinking to myself we can't end with 31 it's not an even number eight times four is 32 i want this to be a little more right encapsulated and i want to be more buttoned up with this there needs to be one more and i'm thinking and literally i'm running dry i'm telling you this is like lots of time spent identifying these 31 you can imagine and just really identifying them and defining them and then i freaking hit me. The final principle must be the principle of applying all the principles and constantly evolving their application in your own life. It's the principle of all the principles. Yes.
Starting point is 00:56:01 And I said, well, then that sounds awesome. What are we going to call it? Let's name it after my grandfather, the grand master principle, right? So we just gave it that name. This one, we kind of pulled up and pulled out and said, this is what it's going to be. So what it is, is this idea that my grandfather, when he learned as a young boy, as I gave you the introduction and the story of his beginning, my grandfather, after he started modifying these techniques as a young teenager and becoming the kind of the champion of the family he didn't have a teacher right there was no instructor when he was 1920 he was on his own now he was evolving the
Starting point is 00:56:33 art but he was his own teacher but here's the problem for most people they don't give themselves permission to be their own teacher they're always waiting for someone to guide, someone to tell, someone to instruct. And what I've learned through Jiu-Jitsu, it was most pronounced when I got my black belt. I'd been training for 19 years, my whole life, right? At 19 years old, my grandfather awards me my black belt. And it was such a surreal moment because at that moment, I said, wow, now I've achieved the belt that i've always dreamt of and all my legendary uncles are and my dad and all the heroes of this family world famous fighters i now have the same belt as them it's black but i feel like there's still so much more to go and then i realize in time thereafter that no one's going to give me all the answers. I must become my own teacher to grow into
Starting point is 00:57:28 the master that I am meant to be. Because by being a black belt and knowing that I didn't have all the answers yet, then it was like, holy cow, I thought when I got my black belt, I would be done, close the book, my movie's over. I have all the moves and I'm set. It wasn't the case. I would go so far to say- That's just beginning. Just the beginning. The black belt is the white belt who never quit. There's all these say, but really the black belt is when it really does just begin because now you have a grip on the art and the amount of innovation. I would say that I've invented more techniques and done more and learned more and grown more from black belt till now than I did from white to black belt Wow in terms of how much new jiu-jitsu exists in my life so there's so much to
Starting point is 00:58:09 learn there's so much to invent it's endless so that being said the black belt was permission to become my own teacher so the grand master principle as we end the book is my very deliberate attempt to empower every reader to become their own teacher right I've given you our operating system in a book I've given you 32 videos to teach you the physical application of these techniques so that they're contextually relevant discussions when we enter the pages of the chapter and we start talking about life in business application I've set the framework for you to absorb all of these principles and make the jujitsu black belts operating system your own. Whether you've ever done jujitsu or not doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:58:56 You're going to be able to essentially download right through your own study of this book our operating system. You get to skip the line so to speak. Now at the end of all this I have two requests in the Grandmaster chapter. Number one, trust yourself enough with the material that I've provided to be your own teacher, to make the adjustments on the fly, to create techniques in the middle of nowhere. Like I said, I'm in a situation with Shane that I don't have a move. I've never been there before. But because I had these principles, guess what? The moves, it revealed themselves to me. But I'll tell you this right now. No technique ever revealed itself to me that I didn't first believe was possible. If I didn't believe that Shane was a solvable puzzle, I wouldn't have entered the car to begin
Starting point is 00:59:42 with. And that's what most people are missing. The belief that the answer is out there. The belief that if they seek, they shall find, whether it be through a book, through a mentor, through a practice of a martial art, through the answers are out there. Whatever you're struggling with, someone has dealt with it before. Now you can pursue that information, reconnaissance principle, and gather that information, Now, you can pursue that information, reconnaissance principle, and gather that information, or you can trust that it exists, put yourself in the trenches, and let yourself reveal the answer on your own. That's another viable option. But you need to have an operating system that is designed for dealing with adversity. And that's what I think this book does above everything else. The second request, as I wrap up the book, is please give Jiu-Jitsu a try.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Because of course, as I said in the very beginning, my number one problem, as I said in the beginning, 99.9% of people know Jiu-Jitsu, but have never given it a try. I'm not going to rest until all of them have given it a try. And if I don't succeed, I'll die trying. That's my legacy. That's what I want to do here. All of the schools, hundreds of schools we have around the world, a website, GracieUniversity.com, specifically for people who don't have a school near them, they can learn online from home and every one of our lessons is in order. So you can actually learn
Starting point is 01:00:57 all the techniques. And actually, once you learn the material, you can go to one of the schools and test for a belt promotion because all of it's there, what you need for each of the milestones as you're climbing through this journey. So this website was done with this mindset. If you're too scared to go to a school, log on to Gracie university.com, watch the first three, four or five lessons for free. And then once you see them and you go, Holy cow, I could do this. Then you go find a school and then you go train somewhere and you continue the journey. So my goal is to create the avenues through which anyone can be introduced to Jiu-Jitsu. If they have an internet connection or a school near them, then there's no excuse. Go give Jiu-Jitsu a try.
Starting point is 01:01:35 Now, like I said, you have to be very selective with who you let teach you in the beginning because injuries are so common. And the number one criteria that I would just say is if they have a school where beginners, brand new students are sparring with other beginners, it's a disaster waiting to happen because I don't know enough to keep myself safe, which means I panic, which means I'm not keeping you safe. So we're both liabilities to each other. And sadly, 98, 99% of Brazilian jujitsu schools are having beginners spar within a few weeks, if not on the first day.
Starting point is 01:02:03 So it's quite a disaster. So for our schools, we don't do that. You're going to be a beginner for several months. You're going to be learning all the mechanics of how to move safely, of how to do joint locks, of where you're safe, where you're not, so that when you eventually spar at a higher level, you can do so without hurting yourself or someone else. So that's my cautionary tale. But like I said, I want everyone who reads this book by the time they're done to say, holy cow, I've got the operating system.
Starting point is 01:02:30 Let me go try the art that everyone, Mark Zuckerberg included, is falling in love with. And now, the great Lewis of School of Greatness. I'm going to do it also, man. Next week.
Starting point is 01:02:40 There you go. Next couple weeks, I'm in. All it took was your first class being done right and you're like, okay, welcome to jujitsu. You're okay. You're on the other side now and that's how i believe this is there's an entire population of the world but they're split into two groups people who've done jujitsu and people who don't and the people who don't can be karate can be taekwondo can be this and they can even be other grappling arts jujitsu is the one and it's not the one not that there
Starting point is 01:03:04 aren't other arts of other grappling arts that are easy you might have someone that's very proficient and can defeat someone who does jujitsu but back to a square one jujitsu the reason jujitsu is the best is because it can do the most for the people with the least physical attributes in the least amount of time. There's no other art that can do more for someone with less than jujitsu. Quote me on that. I got it, man. 32 principles,
Starting point is 01:03:34 harnessing the power of jujitsu to succeed in business, relationships, and life. Make sure you guys get a few copies. We'll have all this stuff linked up as well. I got two final questions for you. But before I ask those questions, Henner, I appreciate you for demonstrating. And again, we'll link up the video
Starting point is 01:03:50 where Henner just destroys me and shows me how incompetent I am as a human being. Don't make it sound so bad, bro. Hold on. But on the other side of that, there was a breakthrough. There was a moment of, imagine if you learn this.
Starting point is 01:04:03 Of course, no. Just make sure you tell them that too, though's smart though because i was like how do i defend this we'll come back for dick but i gotcha exactly hook um but i would acknowledge you for your commitment and your passion to bring this art and this really these strategies to the world you know i don't know if i've had someone this passionate on the show in probably 10 years i appreciate what about about what they do about the mission yeah about the mission listen i was born into this family i didn't have a choice to start learning i tried to quit at least 17 times when i was 11 easily too close you don't think too close i don't want to go dad i don't okay you're staying home
Starting point is 01:04:39 until i get back in seven hours okay i'll go yeah go to class and you do it. You rough it out and you make it happen. But the point is, I didn't have a choice to be born into this family. I started learning as a kid. I tried to quit when I was 11, 12. I started teaching at 13 years old. Once I saw for my first student of my life, Robert Mendoza
Starting point is 01:05:00 Jr., a five-year-old boy who was getting bullied. Once I saved him, changed his life forever his dad hanner i can't thank you i'm 13 years old and the dad is thanking me like i'm like you know this holy figure and i'm like wow that's pretty addicting yeah it's pretty addicting to be the the deliverer of freedom of uh confidence of, jiu-jitsu truth, and people coming to you with all kinds of problems and jiu-jitsu being such a massive solution
Starting point is 01:05:30 on the mat and off the mat. It's such a unique existence. So I became addicted to the giving aspect because let's be honest, who are the happiest people you know? The ones who give the most. The ones who are in service too. Yes.
Starting point is 01:05:42 So I got addicted to the service and the art. I'm in high school and some guy wants to tussle with me and I'm like, line him up. And I tap out the entire volleyball team, 13 guys on wood floor, hardwood. Everyone gets tapped out back to back. Wow. And one day at volleyball practice when the coach was late for practice, one guy wants to
Starting point is 01:05:59 wrestle with me. I tap him out. Another guy puts his hand up. Everyone taps out. And then they go tell everyone in the whole school. And I'm like, wow, this is pretty cool to have a superpower. So the point is going through high school with jujitsu, it's a different species, a different existence. So all of these, I became addicted in so many different ways. And then when I started seeing how these jujitsu principles started to serve me entrepreneurially, right, as a growing jujitsu business, and then many other businesses, quick flip, sleeperhold.com, the travel pillow that I invented, you start to get addicted to the fact that, wow, if I apply jujitsu, not just on the mat, but I apply it everywhere,
Starting point is 01:06:33 this is crazy. So now it's done so much for me, both as a practitioner, as a disciple of the art, and as a deliverer, a messenger of the art, that all I think is, man, every single person that I touch and I infect with jujitsu and I bring into jujitsu, their life will forever change because of my enthusiasm, right? The energy or what the world calls the henergy. The henergy.
Starting point is 01:07:00 Where do you think it'd be if you were just, you know, not just, but if you went through school as maybe an elite athlete of volleyball or swimming or some other sport and you never did martial arts, what do you think it'd be now if you never did martial arts? Bro, that's like asking to strip the hydrogen away from H2O. You just can't. There's no water without hydrogen. Do you understand? There's no henna without jujitsu.
Starting point is 01:07:23 It doesn't exist. I didn't have a choice. And I'm glad i did not because everything good in my life today i attribute to jujitsu and these principles and their impact personally and professionally so to act you can't separate what is actually inseparable it fundamentally becomes something different so then we're talking about a different movie a different book a different ending i don't even care to know that person i don't even care to know the henner without jujitsu because it's just another human being and i could have excelled in many other categories great as you've done as well but i'm you can't even call him henner with an r pronounced with an h you couldn't even do that because he's not
Starting point is 01:07:57 member of the gracie family he's not got this crazy name pronunciation everything falls apart without jujitsu bro uh i gotta get more of this energy in my life you know saying this is a question i ask everyone at the end called the three truths so imagine a hypothetical scenario you live for as long as you want to live in this life and you get to accomplish and create and experience all the beautiful things that you want but for whatever reason it's the last day for you in this life it'll be 100 200, 200 years away, whatever it is. And you've got to take all of your messages with you. This book is gone. This interview is gone. Every training program you've ever created, video content, gone. No one has access to you anymore,
Starting point is 01:08:37 except for three final truths that you get to share with the world. This is all they remember. What would those lessons be or or those three truths be, if that's all people had? Help enough people get what they want, and you can have anything you want, would be one. A second truth, whoever manages the distance,
Starting point is 01:09:03 manages the damage. And the third truth would be, let me talk about advice, love and trust fully. Period. Because I think that you've never lived life. You've never lived life you've never lived life fully unless you've loved fully and trusted fully i know many very successful people
Starting point is 01:09:33 who have no love in their hearts and no trust in their hearts and it doesn't matter what you reach you're alone and what value is a life of 200 years or less or more if you're alone. And what value is a life of 200 years or less or more if you're alone? So anytime you have on this earth, do it loving fully and trusting fully and those closest to you. Even if it means you get hurt. Oh man, that's true.
Starting point is 01:09:59 You feel me? Even if you risk of getting hurt, that's the definition of courage. Knowing that things might not pan out, but you do it anyways. Yes. Those are great three truths, man. Final question for you.
Starting point is 01:10:11 What's your definition of greatness? The progressive realization of a worthy ideal, which I got from someone. Was it Jim Rohn or Zig Ziglar? The definition of greatness, the definition of greatness the definition of success the definition whatever you set your mind to do that is meaningful for you if it's shared with the world here we are i'm doing my thing if it's shared messages of greatness with the world you're this is greatness if it's be a housewife and a mom because that's what you dreamt of and
Starting point is 01:10:44 that's what you set out to do that's greatness right so it's not a housewife and a mom because that's what you dreamt of and that's what you set out to do, that's greatness. There's no categorical right and wrong. It's you are pursuing the path that you set for yourself because you determined that that was the most meaningful existence for yourself. And if you're on that path, that's greatness. The problem is we live in a day and age where how many people are on a path that they just fell into to pay this, to do this, to do that. You know, I got to pay bills. So I'm doing a job that I hate spending eight, 10 hours a day doing something I hate. And then after work, spending an hour going and doing, you know, pickleball or handball or football or jujitsu an hour or two a week. or football or jujitsu an hour or two a week.
Starting point is 01:11:25 My question is in that situation, what are you doing to turn your passion into your profession? What deliberate steps are you taking so you can shift the balance, right? From a 80-20 to that 20% becoming the new 80. And maybe there's still some things you have to do that you don't wake up and are excited to do every single day. But the majority of your existence is in a pillar of what you determine to be greatness for yourself. I hope today's episode inspired you on your journey towards greatness. Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a rundown of today's show with all the important links.
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Starting point is 01:12:45 And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

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