The School of Greatness - Shatter Your LIMITING BELIEFS: 3 Secrets to UPLEVEL Your GROWTH MINDSET

Episode Date: April 19, 2024

Imagine what you could achieve if you didn’t tell yourself you were limited. That’s where your true potential lies. Today we bring to light the common stories we tell ourselves holding us back from reaching our full potential, and how to break free from those limiting beliefs! Rob Dial, Noah Kagan, and Dr. Joe Dispenza to explore the powerful theme of breaking free from the limiting stories we tell ourselves. Rob Dial shares insights from his extensive experience in personal development, discussing how changing our internal narratives can lead to manifesting desires and achieving happiness. Noah Kagan brings his expertise in entrepreneurship, revealing how reframing our approach to challenges and failures can unlock paths to financial freedom and success. Dr. Joe Dispenza rounds out the conversation by explaining how modern science supports profound personal change, teaching listeners how to rewire their brains and bodies for better health and a more fulfilling life.In this episode you will learnStrategies to dismantle limiting beliefs and rewrite empowering personal narratives.How to apply principles of mindset change to achieve personal and professional goals.Entrepreneurial tactics for overcoming mental barriers to success.Scientific methods to transform your health and elevate your consciousness.Practical steps to evolve beyond old stories and embrace a new identity for transformative success.For more information go to www.lewishowes.com/1604For more Greatness text PODCAST to [phone]Links to full episodes featured today:Rob Dial – https://link.chtbl.com/1516-podNoah Kagan – https://link.chtbl.com/1572-podDr. Joe Dispenza – https://link.chtbl.com/1540-pod

Welcome to this special masterclass. We've brought some of the top experts in the world to help you unlock the power of your life through this specific theme today. It's going to be powerful, so let's go ahead and dive in. Why do people create fears that hold them back from attracting or manifesting more? So many people are held back by, I'll take a step back. So when I look at fears, I categorize them in two different types of fears. There's primal fears. And a primal fear is there is physical pain or death that's attached to it. And so we should have primal fears. So what kept our species alive? But there's actually on two fears that people are born with. It's the fear of loud noises and the fear of

falling are the two ones that are built into the human circuitry. Everything else is learned. And so out of all the other ones that are learned, you have primal fears, which is actually like physical pain or death attached to it, which we need to survive. The other ones are intellectual fears. And an intellectual fear would be like, I ran a webinar last night with a few thousand people. We were talking about the book. And I said, what's your number one fear? Everyone put in the chat, the thing that's holding me back the most, 90% of them is a fear of failure. So it's like the fear of failure, the fear of rejection, the fear of not being loved, the fear of running out of money. All of those are intellectual fears

because they're not actually existing in reality in this moment. And there's a quote that's in the book that I really loved, which is, um, intellectual fear like we have and we're talking about is a perception of a imagined future event. And the key part is imagined future event. It may never happen. think and we feel like intellectual fears feel like primal fears in our body, which is there's danger. I shouldn't go and do this. And so it's like, I have this fear of failure. There's danger. I shouldn't go and try to create the life that I want. I shouldn't try to manifest the life that I want. And so we have these fears. And then so people say, okay, like Lewis, I've got this fear of failure. Tell me how to overcome it. And then here's the craziest part is when you look at a fear that is an intellectual fear and you say, okay, now that I've identified it, how to overcome it. The key to it is you can't overcome something that doesn't exist.

So how do you let go of it then? Right. So that's, that's the, that's the key, right? So, so first off, people need to like really get into their heads. First off is you cannot overcome something that doesn't exist. You are creating in your mind, the boogeyman and all day you are fighting the boogeyman, but the boogeyman doesn't exist in the first place. And that's your fear of failure, the fear of rejection, the fear of not being good enough, not smart enough, not pretty enough to have the success that you want. The imposter syndrome, all of those are just figments of our imagination and we're fighting them all day long and they don't actually truly exist.

And so what it comes down to is, okay, I can't overcome it, but it still kind of lives inside of me from my childhood, right? And so what I've been teaching people is it's not about overcoming the parts of you that exist. It's about integrating the parts of you that exist. And so it's like, you can have the fear of failure. Like I'm afraid of failing all the time, and I screw up all of the time, right. And that's just the way that it goes. But it drives me to create better content. It drives me to create better stuff. And so the way I like to look at the fears that you do have that are intellectual fears is they are tools for your tool belt where it's like, OK, I have this fear of failure. I feel it inside of my body, which is usually where you feel at first. You don't notice the fear in your brain. It's usually like, I feel kind of anxious right now. And so you notice the fear inside of your body. And it's like, what am I afraid of right now? I'm afraid of failing. Okay. I notice it. I'm not trying to get rid of it because you can't get rid of parts of you. You know, if you look at like internal family systems, it's a version of therapy. It's the

different parts of you. And so I can say, okay, this part of me is afraid of failing. I can listen to that part of me, or I could say, how can I use this fear to actually help me create better content or help me create, write a better book? You know, if I'm afraid of like putting this book on it, just completely flopping could do that. Right. Or I can say, I remember when I was writing it, I was like, I really want this to be good. It made me do more rounds of edits, which in turn, hopefully made it a better book. Yeah. And get more feedback from people and make sure you're more prepared and things like that. And there can be a, how can we make sure that we pursue the things we want and not get paralyzed by needing to be perfect due to our fear of failure? Yeah. Yeah. So that

actually goes perfectly, which is the third, the third part of, of chapter one, which is what holds people back. So there's identity there's part one, which is identity, which is fears. And then the purpose that people have. And, um, there comes a point in your life where you have to realize that failure and in success are not different. There, there are two sides of the same coin. You know, when you look at the creator of Honda said success is 99% of failure. Like you, you and I, we've put out over a thousand podcast episodes. I think I'm at like 13, 1400. I think you're 1500, right? We've had some flops, right? We've, we've done some things which are not the best. We'd put out content that is not done really well. But what

it's really about is like, you stop looking at the numbers and you say, what's my purpose actually behind this thing? My, one of my very first mentors used to always say to me, you've got to get off yourself and you've got to get on purpose. Off yourself is thinking about all of your intellectual fears. You know, if we're talking about creating podcast episodes, right? Cause we're both podcasters. If I don't want to start a podcast, cause I'm afraid of my, I work at a job and I'm afraid of Nancy and HR making fun of me for it right I could it's a fear of failure it's a fear of judgment it's a fear of not being accepted kicked out of the tribe whatever it might be and so we can look at it that way and say well I'm not going to start because I'm afraid of people judging me

or we and that's being on self I'm thinking about myself But if my purpose is like for me, my purpose is I remember what it feels like. I was nine years old. My dad was an alcoholic. I remember him passing away when I was 15 from being alcoholic. I remember the trauma that came from it. And I remember what it felt like to be in absolute suffering in my mind. And it was hell. And I would never want to go back there. You couldn't pay me enough to go back to that moment. But through years of working on myself and trying to become better and coaching myself and reading books and going to courses and doing therapy and doing all of that, I've gotten myself to a place where I can overcome things that become hard.

And I feel obligated to teach that to other people. That is my purpose. And my purpose is to have people not be in suffering that I was in at one point in time, because I know what it feels like. And I, I hate that other people are in there. And so I don't care what anyone else thinks about me because my purpose is so strong that it doesn't matter if somebody says this podcast sucks. If it doesn't matter when I get a one-star review that people are like, I love his content, but I hate that he cusses.

And I'm like, but that's authentically me. Right. And so. It sounds like when people get in alignment with their purpose, it doesn't matter what fears they might have, or it doesn't matter what people, what they're afraid of people saying them. Because when you're truly on purpose, you're willing to risk making a fool of yourself, being judged for failing because you care more about the purpose than that fear. For sure. A hundred percent. I

care more about what's interesting about is like the fear that we have of, oh, I'm going to be judged if I put this out there, if I do this thing. There's such a small amount of people that judge you or that will be, there's such a small amount of people that judge you or that will be, there's such a small amount of haters in the world. And there's such a huge amount of people who will actually say, this is amazing. This is great. And so we, we think there's going to be way more haters than there actually are. There's such a small amount of haters and there's so much, there's a large amount of lovers that are out there in the world. And a lot of people just don't start the thing that they really truly want to, because they're afraid of just that one person that could possibly say something to them. That's true. And something, something I think about a lot of people just don't start the thing that they really truly want to because they're afraid of just that one person that could

Possibly say something to us true something something I think about a lot and this has helped me Overcome any insecurity about putting something out or launching something or the fear of failure is really thinking about my future self and saying Would my future self be proud that I didn't take the shot or more proud that i actually did take the shot i failed i learned something from it and it led to something even better after that failure or that loss and i don't think our future selves will ever think i'm proud of you for not taking a chance no i'm proud of you for having a dream and not going for it i'm proud of you for playing small and for shying away because you were afraid of what a few people might think or say about you i'm proud of you for playing small and for shying away because you were afraid of what a few people might think or say about you. I'm proud of you.

Way to go. I don't think our future self would ever say that. I don't think our mentors would ever say, you know what? It's a good thing that you didn't go for it. You didn't give it a try. It doesn't matter if we succeed or win in everything we do, but it's the effort of doing it, I think, is where we gain pride in ourselves. So I think that's really cool.

I think that's also where confidence comes from. A lot of people will ask, how do I get confident? How do I build confidence in myself? And they think I have to go do something and I have to succeed. That's not necessarily the truth. Sometimes I think a lot of our confidence comes from feeling fear, doing it anyways, maybe not having the results that we actually wanted to, but in turn, looked at it and said,

I'm really proud that I showed up for myself. Yes. And that builds confidence in you. Huge time. Yeah. When you show up for you, that's big. But a lot of people don't know what their purpose is or they feel like they have too many ideas,

too many passions, and they don't know which direction to go. So what have you discovered about how to discover or find your purpose at this stage of life? And is there a formula you teach people? Yeah. So there's, there's a couple different things. The, the thing that I hear more than anything else is that most people don't know what their passions are and they don't know what their purpose is. Uh, more than I hear that I have too many of them. I heard a couple of that last night when I was, when I was live. And some people said that they, they did have too many things that they could do,

but majority of people were like, I don't know what my passion is. I don't know what my purpose is. And then I asked him, I'm like, well, how often do you do something new? And they're like, not very often. And I was like, so, so here's the key to it is it's okay right now, if someone's listening, not to know what their purpose is. It's okay to not know what their passion is, but it is not okay to not wake up every single day and not be in constant pursuit to find what that passion is if you don't know what it is. And so if it's- That takes trying new things. Of course. You have to try a ton of new things. Like for instance, my wife-

And ruling out things you don't like. Yeah, exactly. And, and try things and be like, o oh, that didn't work. I don't like that at all. Like, you know, for, and the other thing that's, that's important to know about passion and purpose is that your passion doesn't have to be your paycheck. Like you can look at people and see like, I'm lucky enough. You're lucky enough that we're so passionate about this and we happen to be paid from it. That's amazing. Like that's by the grace of God, the best thing that's ever happened to me. Right. But there's other things where it's like some people like I really enjoy riding horses. And how do I make money off of horses?

How do I make them my passion? I was like, you don't necessarily have to make money off of it, but maybe you start going, well, you know what I would like to do? I like to take my horses and I like to teach people that are in the inner city how to ride horses. Or I like to teach people who have maybe psychological symptoms and they have anxiety or bipolar and I've learned that horses end up calming them down in some sort of way and you decide that you want to help them. It doesn't mean you have to make money off of it but I always say if you found something that you love so much

why don't you try to spend as much of your time doing it and so if it is this horses thing and maybe you make like five grand a year of horses, or maybe it costs you more money, can you have a job that you at least somewhat enjoy? Not hate, but you somewhat enjoy, but it gives you enough free time to do the thing that actually makes you feel alive. And so people always say like,

well, how do I find those things? I think my personal belief is I think that God, the universe speaks to you through energy Of the energy that we feel doing something like when I get done with this podcast I am going to 100 have more energy than when we first started the podcast Because this is what actually makes me feel alive. Like I feel the most alive doing this Yeah, and so I think a lot of people need to think like where's the most energy for me? Where do I have the most curiosity to try to learn something?

What would I what would I do even if it didn't make me any money? I would still, I mean, for years, I didn't make money off of the podcast or anything that I did, right? You kept doing it because you loved it, yeah. Hundreds of podcast episodes before I made a dollar off of it, right? Just because I love learning about people. I'm obsessed with neurology. I'm obsessed with learning about, like, sitting down with someone and be like, why is Louis Wayne the he is? I want to know about his mom. I want to know about his dad. I want to make connections and put this puzzle piece together of this person. And so it's like,

it gives me energy to meet people and find out what's going on and where they come from and how they became that. Yeah. I was interviewing someone yesterday. Her name was Jenna Zoe and she had a curiosity and a love for this thing called human design, which is about understanding kind of your, your not personality type but your energy type right based off of when you were born and exactly yeah and she was she had another business or she was working in the food industry creating something around food

and it wasn't really succeeding but she loved doing this other thing on the side for years like reading people's charts and like really helping them identify their energy type and making sure are you in alignment with what you should be doing and just supporting them in that that creation of life and she did that for years and you know she didn't make any money for a long time then she made a little bit of money but she enjoyed it so much that eventually she's like why don't i just try doing more of this and see if I can make money? After five, six, seven years and eventually started making money, then said, you know what? Okay, now I'm going to go all in on this. It doesn't have to be all in right away, or you don't have to monetize something you enjoy right away. Maybe the timing will come later,

like it did with you in some ways as well. And maybe if you lean into the curiosity and just keep doing that on the side or on the weekends with your horses, eventually you could make money. Maybe you can, maybe you can't. But finding the time to dive into things that you love more, I think is always going to help you. You know what I found that kind of goes with that too that's important is that people want to start something and they think they should be making a bunch of money in three months. I found that for the majority of people who I met that have become like something like big and they've been able to do something very successful, it takes at least five years. Five to seven is pretty average before it like really starts to take off. I don't know if it's like the universe testing us to be like, do you actually want this? Because you better keep

on this path. But I think the path of mastery is something that I like really love. Like I have, my first tattoo is a Roman numeral for 10,000 because I love the 10,000 hour rule. It's on my wrist right here. So I see it every single day. And, um, I just love the idea of mastering something. And I think that if we just, we find something that we're kind of interested in, that seems interesting, that seems fun. And we start putting energy into it. We start getting better at it. It's like Tony Robbins always says progress equals happiness. When you feel like you're progressing towards something, not making money, but just progressing towards something, it makes you feel good and you want to keep doing it. And you fast forward five years or seven years and you've become one of the masters of that thing. That's usually when people can

write a book about something, they can start a podcast, they can grow a following on it. And that's usually where they can start to monetize. Yeah. You got to have some type of skillset or some type of mastery. Maybe you're not the master, but you've mastered a part of it and you'll start to attract more financial opportunities that way. Yeah. But one of the things I feel like holds people back from discovering their purpose, tapping into their purpose, taking action on their purpose is the old character they've been playing for so long. You talk about this in your identity chapter, you know, they've been playing for so long. You talk about this in your identity chapter, you know, they've been holding onto an identity that has been developed for them

that isn't in their highest, best way, right? It's been the way society wants parents, kids, whatever it might be. How can we get the courage to eventually kill off the parts of ourselves that are no longer serving us for our highest sense of purpose. Yeah. Have you ever seen the documentary Jim and Andy on Jim Carrey? Yes. It's incredible. It is incredible, right? So everyone should watch it. Jim Carrey is amazing. He did the movie, The Man on the Moon, like in 1999. Andy Kaufman, right? He was playing Andy Kaufman, right? So he was playing Andy Kaufman, and he's a method actor,

which means that he had to literally become him, and he had to play him all day long for three or four months straight, to the point where even his driver said when he would pick him up in Hollywood and drive him home, he would still be Andy Kaufman in the car. On the way home, he'd be Andy Kaufman on the way to go and shoot every single day. The crazy part about it, though, is that Andy Kaufman also played other characters. So Andy Kaufman was also Tony Clifton, which is a whole other character. And so he would, if, if they stopped shooting and he was Tony Clifton, he would go home and be Tony Clifton. And so he

was Andy Kaufman some days, he was Tony Clifton some days, he was never Jim Carrey in those three or four months. And it's really interesting when you watch it because the people who are like, they were in taxi with him and they, they were on the show were like, he was almost indistinguishable. He was the closest thing to Andy Kaufman that I've seen since Andy Kaufman. To the point where even his daughter, Andy Kaufman's daughter, went and did sessions, almost like mini therapy sessions, sitting down with Jim Carrey as Andy Kaufman as being her dad. That's crazy. Crazy, right?

And so what's crazy about that was that when it ended, he said he forgot who Jim Carrey was. Like he literally forgot. There's a point where he, there was that song. I think it was REM did the song man on the moon. They're like, can you be, you know, we're going to shoot the, the, the, the video, the music video for it. Can you be Andy Kaufman? And he's like, I don't think I can. He's like, cause I lost myself so much in that role that when it ended, I forgot what I liked. I forgot what I didn't like. I forgot my belief systems. I forgot everything about who Jim Carey was. And the quote that he says, and it's actually in the book, is, I realized if I could lose Jim Carey so easily, then it was Jim Carey. And he realized it was just another character that

he was playing in his life. He was waking up and unconsciously every morning deciding to be Jim Carey. And he was being that person. And if you've seen like the spiritual awakening he's gone on in the past like 20 years, that was the beginning of it. It was because he lost his identity. He forgot who he was. And it shows you that it's like our identity is just something we're choosing to be every single day. And we can look at parts of ourselves and we can say, do I like this aspect of myself? Do I not like this aspect of myself? So like there's this aspect of myself? So like there's aspects of myself that I like, there's aspects of myself that I, that I don't like. And I've changed over

years. Like one of the things that was the hardest for me was, you know, with my father not being around my mom working a lot is I don't feel like I really felt a safe space of love when I was a kid. I didn't feel like it was just there and omnipresent. Like my wife, you know, her mom and dad are still together. She's got her two sisters. They're all really close. We were never really close. So I never really had that. And so we've been together now for 10 years.

In the first couple of years, she was way more loving and I couldn't open up to the love. Like it was hard for me because I felt uncomfortable. Like my nervous system was like, what's going on? This person's too close to me. It almost didn't feel safe for you because it was unfamiliar. A hundred percent. Even though it should be the safest feeling in the world, right? But you're like also afraid of it, but you want it, but you don't want it. Yeah. And so it was like me, me noticing different aspects of myself was like, I'm not as loving as I think I probably truly am or what I could be. So let me, that was a part of me I didn't like. And so I was

like, how do I open myself up to be a little bit more loving, which is hard because, you know, opening yourself up to be vulnerable allows you to be vulnerable, especially when you love somebody allows you to be really hurt, especially when you've gone through heartbreaks and you've been, you know, if you've been heartbroken, cheated on divorces, all these things that people could have. I think it really comes down to how are we try and have the courage to do it is that it's funny because I literally have two tattoos and I'm referencing both of the tattoos. So the only other tattoo that I have is a tattoo on my arm. I left my job where I was making like a quarter million dollars a year. And I was like, I'm going to do this thing. I don't know why.

It just feels right. Like the feelings felt right. And I was really fearful. And I was like, I might go back to work for someone else. And my sister comes out. I went home. And I was back for Thanksgiving in 2015, the year I started the podcast. And she goes, hey, have you ever seen this box from dad of dad's stuff? And I was like, no.

And my dad had passed away 14 years ago at that point. And there were these there were these, you know, uh, it was like a t-shirt of his, it was his glasses. And there was these letters. My dad was in jail for a little while and he wrote letters to us. And he wrote a letter to my sister on her 20th birthday, which was a year before he passed away. And the very end of the letter, it says, I hope you live your life with courage, love, and laughter. And I read it and I was like, I hope you live your life with courage, love, and laughter. And I read it and I was like, this is actually speaking to me because I'm in so much fear right now that I'm going to go back to work for someone else and literally throw my passion away. And I took my dad's handwriting, exact handwriting. It's on the inside of my arm right here. Yeah. It's on the inside of my arm.

That's cool. You want to see it? Yeah, I do. Anybody that's on YouTube. So it says, live your life with courage, love, and laughter. It's the exact handwriting. And it's the end of that letter. It says courage, love, I do. Anybody that's on YouTube. So it says, live your life with courage, love, and laughter. It's the exact handwriting. And it's the end of that letter. It says courage, love, and laughter, right? Which if you think about it, I was in so much fear. I was in so much fear that I was about to give up my entire passion and everything that I felt like I was born to do

because I just wanted to go back to what was safe. And I think everybody feels it. And it's like, when you feel fear, we're always like, what's the hack? The only hack is you're going to have to get yourself to a point where you're like, I have to do this or else I'm not going to be able to create the life that I really truly want. And my biggest fear, like I have, I have fears, of course, I'm just a normal person. But my biggest fear, like I remember, Louis, I remember sitting, the first person who I ever knew that passed away was my dad. Nobody I'd ever known that had passed away before.

I remember flying up. We had flown up to go see him, and he was still in the hospital at the time. He was unconscious. We were flying up to go see him. And by the time we got to the airport, we got the news that he had already passed away. So I went up there to go see somebody, ended up going there for a funeral. And so we were in this tiny little room, and we were viewing it, the casket, and he was in the casket. And we were on this, this, this sofa that was right there. And it was my, myself, my grandmother, which was his mom,

my mom, my sister, the four of us are just sitting there. And I was looking at him and my dad was a dreamer and he was an amazing person, but he had a lot of demons that, that, that he had in his life. His father killed himself and he walked in the room and saw it right after it happened. So he had demons that he just didn't overcome. And he was a dreamer and he was an amazing person. But I remember looking at him at 15 and being like, this guy had so much potential

and he didn't follow his potential. I know that he didn't create the life that he probably would have wanted to. And I was like, that will not become my life. It will never become my life in any sort of way. And so can I feel fear? Of course I can feel fear, but at some point you've got to decide, am I going to live a life that's full of fear? Or am I going to start being more courageous and live a life that's courageous? Because we all have a choice and we could go one way or we could go the other. But really what it comes down to is like, I know I'll be ridiculed

for putting stuff out there. I know that people are going to bash different things that I put out there, but it's more for me of like, what feels right in my heart is what I'm going to follow. And I think that's what people should think of. It's like, where do I have energy? Some people are like, I'm 45 years old. I've been in this job. I went to college for this. I'm like, you could live to, you know, 90 years old, you're halfway through your life and you're going to live the rest of the 45 years doing something that you don't want simply because you went down the wrong path for a little while. And so I think you just got to get to a point where you realize there's going to be fear that's omnipresent. It's always going to be there. It's just the way that we are as humans.

You've just got to be courageous at some point in time. humans, you've just got to be courageous at some point in time. So when did you realize that you actually were worthy of love, of being rich, of having nice things or buying a house with the money you've earned? When did you realize you were worthy? I was in Barcelona and I was just recognizing my own life. I was working with this woman, Stephanie, and I was just kind of, I was outside. There's an Arc de Triomphe in Barcelona. And I remember being outside journaling on this iPad, feeling like, wow, like what a cool life I created. Actually finally recognizing my own life. And everything.

Reflecting back the last 20 years and all the different things ups and downs the sadness of what i've done to the the ex-fiance how i've created this company that i finally get to live actually live my dream and just kind of you know being able to reflect on all of that um help me accept it and just enjoy it like hey money is great i know people say money can't buy happiness definitely made me happier now finally being able to embrace it once you love and accept yourself and believe you're worthy then money can buy you additional happiness yes but it cannot buy you happiness if you feel unlovable yeah you don't accept yourself and you don't face the challenges and the pain and the sadness that's within you then it's just more sadness because i make this money yeah but i'm like still shameful about who i am yeah it's It's still chasing. It's still this external side.

And so with Stephanie, it, and, and it's the simplest thing. It's just day by day. Yeah. Like do something for yourself. Do something that you're proud of for yourself.

Like back in the day, we had this thing called Gabby. It was me and my buddy Adam, uh, from my body tutor. Basically gratitude, exercise, breakfast,

you. And if anything, it's just like, just how do you do one thing for yourself each day? Do you feel good about yourself? Maybe it's in a relationship. So for me, it was like, all right, I'm dating these women. I have a, I did have a goal. I was like, I'd like to have kids and I'd like to have a real partner that I'm getting what I want. When did you realize you wanted to have kids and a partner where it was like a harmonious relationship? When did that come about?

It took, it took years and it took years after breaking out the fiancee was like back and forth with her and then work with stephanie was like i really did have to close the door in the past and there was a visualization and i couldn't swing to my next branch holding on to my previous one oh my goodness you know what i'm saying wow i was holding on because i was like i i like partying uh your previous identity the lifestyle the yeah yeah and wow it was feeling more harmonious just just daily it was honestly like a daily practice of i really enjoyed being in barcelona i felt like wow i get to work on this business i get to meet interesting people and then it was directionally i didn't know the kind of faith where you were talking about your

stuff like i had faith there's going to be someone out there that i'd eventually now start meeting but i was being intentional about it and i told the ex i sent her a message like i can't reply to you anymore and that was hard i was really uh you closed the chapter yeah yeah and i'm sure she was mad and all these things i was like i you know you i want you to find someone that is good for you and so it was still kind of lingering energy was like okay we're not together but hey how are you and checking in and every once in a while waiting for a text intermittently yeah. So you made the decision like, Hey, I cannot communicate with you anymore. Yeah. You sent that message. Yeah. Did your coach or therapist kind of guide you in that? Or was that something with it? Yeah. So she was like, you need to send this

message. And I was like, I'm not doing it. So she was, um, and, and this is kind of a weird, I would say hack for others. If you do have coaches or you meet with other people, I'd record my conversations with their permission. Yeah. It's not secret. Listen back to it or I listened to myself and I noticed I'm like, huh, are you proud of how you're, what you did with these dates? Are you proud of how your work is? Are you proud? And then just kind of an interesting moment of reflection. Like when you do content, you do anything, you get a chance to actually learn. And so through that, I was listening to it. And then when I was ready, you know, it takes time for all of us.

How many times has someone given you advice and then you read the book or you listen to something and finally, like the 18th time you finally accept it. And I kid you not, it was probably about four weeks later when I finally sent it. And then four weeks later, I met Mafe. Isn't that fascinating? I know. I know. I hate that story, but the key part, I don't hate the i know i hate that story but the key part i don't hate sorry i love

that story but one thing that i've changed my perspective on based on you know what what uh isaac was asking i believe i'm more optimistic and not optimistic because yes i'm things are good all this stuff but like how do you be optimistic when things aren't good and there's a book learned optimism phenomenal book and that optimism is a choice and so okay business isn't working out. Business, we still have problems. I told you, the YouTube team, most of them quit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. AppSumo, we still have partners complaining or different things happening.

How do you stay optimistic that, do you think the future is going to be better than today or not? Yeah. I think it's going to be bright. Yeah, but that's hard. Even when things are going down and there's challenges and there's stress, I'm like, this is all happening in my favor for a brighter future. That's tough though when it doesn't feel good, man. It didn't feel good. Yeah.

For like many months this year, I was going through a lot of challenges. Just like, man, there's a challenge here in the business and this person and this is challenging and revenue is going down and all these different things. And I was like, after a period of being frustrated you know internally i was like okay how can i look at this in a way because being frustrated and stressed is not going to cause me to feel better and it's probably not going to get me into flow and creativity yes and i'm probably you know stressing my you know girlfriend now fiance out or whatever people around me with that tense energy it's not like i was explosive or anything but it was more like i just wasn't my happy self all the time right

and i started to shift that energy internally and say this is all happening in my favor and maybe this continues for six months or a year and knowing that i'm going to make sure i put my attention on it i'm going to align the right people towards it we're going to be figuring it out and eventually you will figure it out yeah hopefully it figures out today but if not it's going to be figuring itself out and just take care of my health my mindset my attitude yeah i think that's really the only thing we can control that is who we are and how we show up i'm curious about this show up. I'm curious about this. Where do you think you'd be if you didn't emotionally and physically send that, that text of like, Hey, I'm, I need to close this chapter with this

relationship. Where do you think you'd be right now? If you kept that door open, whether it's with that or any type of door from a previous thing that was kind of holding onto you, where do you think you'd be? Do you think you'd be in a peaceful, loving, beautiful relationship with a child on the way? Or do you think something else would be happening? How many times has something bad happened that turned out to be great? For me, every time. When people say do the work, I'm always like, what's the work? You know, you're here and you're like, do the work.

I'm like, what's the work? Can you tell me what it is so I can do it? And I think the work is just really trying to understand ourselves, understanding what's going on. Like, do I want to live the way I'm I've been living? And it's like, no, this is not what I want. I'm like excited to have a family one day. And so, okay, what is necessary for me to feel worthy to then lead to that kind of. So what was that thing that was necessary for you to feel worthy of a different life? Financially, emotionally, spiritually, you know, family, relationship. What was that thing? There's not one thing.

There's not one day that like I magically woke up because I meditated or something especially happened. I think it was literally like each day, can I just be a little kind kinder to myself just a little bit more generous to myself and then to others and you know with the let's just take it piece by piece right i have noticed that when my relationship's going well guess what else is going well everything else yeah and when one thing's going bad it's like maybe these other things are going bad so let's start working on these different pieces of it but i feel like you've always been a very generous person to others like since i've known you you've always been a very generous person to others. Like since I've known you, you've always been generous giving, like willing to jump on a call and say, let me help with anything strategy or you need an introduction.

You're like that with everyone. Yeah. So you're very generous outwardly to other people where you're not generous to yourself. Yeah. Generous with the money. Really? Yeah. Like I didn't really enjoy the money.

I told you I was like living in it. I lived in an 800 square foot house that's falling down, literally like cracks in the floor, cracks in the walls. And it's like, and that's what I thought of myself. This was actually kind of an interesting experience. And I do want to answer your question, but I'm trying to think more through it. Go back to your old life. Go back to three years ago. I went to my old house, uh, about three months ago. I was like, huh? Wow. This is what I thought of myself. And your environment. Yeah. It was a this is what I thought of myself. And your environment. Yeah, it was a representation of what I thought I deserved.

And it's interesting for all of us, like what we think we deserve. Do we deserve great families? Do we deserve great, great money? Do we deserve a great where we're living? And then you start realizing like, okay, what's really holding me back from that? And every time it's yourself. And so going through therapy, talking to a therapist, talking with Stephanie, I wouldn't say it's like some, it wasn't some overnight thing. It was just- It usually isn't overnight. It's usually a series of events and series of

conversations, reflections, integrations, closing of chapters, practices. And then over time, it comes together. It's usually not like, oh, the first conversation I had, I learned to love and accept myself. It's like unwinding and unpacking things that caused us to believe we're unworthy. And learning to finally integrate that emotionally and physically with the present day, doing things over and over that show you that you believe you're worthy. It's not less like, oh, I'm going to think about it and now I'm worthy. It's like, you've got to act on it continuously.

And usually when someone's like, okay, I'm going to let go of this old apartment or whatever that isn't really serving my vision of what I want to be stepping into. So let me transition from this to the next thing. Let me leave a job that really isn't the vision I have. And I leave that and I don't know where I'm going to go next, but then magically something unfolds.

It's when we leave a relationship. We finally say, I love you. I appreciate you, but this is not good for either of us. It's time for me to close this chapter. 100%. How hard that is emotionally,

especially if you've been with someone for years and you've already talked about the future and unwinding that is extremely hard. But then, boom, something unfolds magically, it seems like. Isn't that funny how that happened? Isn't it crazy? I was thinking how it's also experimenting. Yes.

Like, okay, what would a great relationship, can I go on a date and just see what a great relationship would be like maybe? Can I try, and I told you, like try nice houses, see what that's like. Can I try first class? I'd be like, this is pretty good. Right? And then and then you start feeling like okay what do i need to do so that i can feel more comfortable doing these all the time besides just the money part yeah and i think what the worthy was just day by day just doing things that i felt proud for myself yes like is my behavior making me proud like there's a lot of times where if i'm about to have a drink i'm like do you think you'll feel proud of yourself for making this decision? And that's what I think a lot.

And sometimes it's like, yeah, have a drink, great. And other times it's like, no, let's not. And I'm like, good. Keep saying these kind things to yourself. That's something that,

I always think the word generous. And generous, I think people think of money to others, but I think of generous as words to yourself. And you can also be generous with words to other people too,

with your partner or with people you admire. Generous to yourself, be like, hey man, you're doing well. Even if it's not great or you didn't get the success immediately, you can just keep generous with words to other people too, with your partner or with people you admire. Generous to yourself. Be like, hey man, you're doing well. Even if it's not great or you didn't get the success immediately, you can just keep doing it. Yes. And there's no one stopping it.

It's unlimited. I know. How do you think someone can become more valuable in the marketplace, become more worthy of financial abundance, of making and earning more? What are some things they can do internally and externally to appreciate and value? Like to get a better salary or to start their own business? Either one.

Yeah. Yeah. I think the thing that I've always found the most fascinating. What a great, a great relationship or all these things, you know, it's just appreciating and value. Yeah.

The thing that I've always come back to is how can you just go help one person? Like a lot of times on my YouTube channel or at AppSumo or with this book, like I don't just go help one person. I think we get, you know, when people want a business, they think about million

and they don't get the dollar. And when you actually help another person, you really realize like, oh, I have a lot more ability and capabilities really than I even realized. In the workplace, I think one, everyone should be an entrepreneur so that you have some control over your destiny. And you can keep your data. We have a lot of entrepreneurs at AppSum. We have like Amy, she has a flower shop. Nick has a teeth whitening business.

Ullman's wife has a facial business. And that's great. And so you can have that option. Within the company, I think it's really, this has been really fascinating. Like who gets paid more and why, like how come an engineer makes 200 and someone in customer support makes 35. And it's within everyone's ability to recognize like what things are getting paid more for. And there's no limit that they can go do those other things. Like we have a lot of people in our company, like Matt Bean went from a launch operations to now he's a product manager. Pretty cool. And there's all these people within our company and elsewhere. It's like, well,

if you want more money, it's, there's no limit to what you can create. And so figuring out what is more valuable in a business and then how do you move up that chain? What do you think are the three most important skills for people to earn more money that they can develop. Number one is follow up. No one follows up. Just being consistent with following up. Bro, no one follows up. It's unbelievable. I like deleting people's emails just to see what happens.

I'm like, if they reply in a week. DMs, emails, texts, just see what happens. No one follows up. If you really want something, you follow up. You persist. So I'd say that that's one of the best things. Number two, I mean, coming back on it, I would say it's how are they learning? What is their learning approach?

I've seen different people that are like, yeah, I'm good. This is where I want to be. And it's like, well, you'll stay where you are. And I've seen other people like, let's take Sean, for instance. He's the head of Revenue App Sumo. He was six years ago, our junior salesperson. Now he's responsible for 80 million. And's because sean kept learning wow right he has different coaches he's taking different courses i'm like ah there's something there at that so

you're following up you're learning all these skills are available for everyone there's nothing exclusive i'd say the last one is attitude oh gosh man i know it's something obvious shit but it's like dude who's it's been interesting to see the attitude of people, especially we've had hundreds of people work at AppSumo, uh, YouTube team, all these people I've seen a lot of different friends of companies. It's like, who is people whose attitude? And I like people that have a solution attitude. Like, Oh, this didn't work. What else can we do?

That's huge. And that's not exclusive. Everyone can work on their attitude. No matter matter what if you're starting your business if you're as an employee at a company or whatever it is in a relationship whatever that is do I have you know how my team is virtual and how my team is here and Alexandra and Sammy here are in the office here you know every day I walk in and they just have you they just have a good attitude. And for me, you have no idea how far that goes.

Especially as someone who's got challenges. If you're the business owner, you've got challenges, fires you're putting out all day, and just different people you're dealing with throughout the day, decisions to make. So when someone is just consistently following up with a good attitude, even when they've got challenges, they don't have to be perfect every day, but just like a consistency of a positive attitude, a solution oriented attitude. You have no idea how valuable that is. Yeah.

How, how much people appreciate that. There has been so many times that I've played sports on teams where there was some incredibly freakish athlete, just like so talented, like just way better than everyone else, but had the worst negative attitude and it ruined the entire dynamics of the team.

But you're like, oh, but they're so good. But they're just bringing everyone down with their attitude. And the moment you remove that person or they remove themselves, it's like, wow wow there's this flow and this is like connection and there's this collaboration and there's just this you know progress that's more effortless when you remove one person with a negative attitude or they remove themselves for whatever reason yeah it's incredible i'd rather have a team of people who would just

have a solution oriented attitude than like the superstar talented technical engineer or like graphic designer or video editor with a negative attitude all day long you can do so much more with positive attitude i always talk about like the three things we look for our attitude energy and effort it's like if you can be consistent with those three things you got a place here and you. And those are all things in your control. A hundred percent. They're all in your control. And if you have a learning mindset as well, and you keep growing, then the earning potential just keeps going up more and more. So faster. Yeah. Man, I love this, man. This is powerful stuff. I don't know if this is what you

were thinking about. No, this is the opposite of literally what I was thinking we're going to talk about, which is it's good. It's like I like getting outside of the like our auto narrative. Yes, yes. And but I don't think it's unique in the sense that we're all going through our own different challenge. Like everyone, you have your own personal life going on. Everyone watching has their own like I've got a family and I'm struggling and maybe I'd like to be an entrepreneur or I've got a day job and it sucks or I want to get a job. And, you know, we're all going through it. Exactly.

We're all frankly, the real answer is that we're all figuring it out. We are, man. And so it's been a journey that I'm happy to share, and I've been fortunate to be able to figure it out at 40 where I'm at than figure it out at 60 or 70. Figuring it out. We're still figuring it out. Once you have your kid and the relationship dynamics,

it's going to be like, I don't know anything. What do I do now, right? Yeah, but I think one of the things that's cool is there's so many other people that have figured these things out or at least have gone through what we're going through. So it's been super cool having the baby that I call up friends. I'm like, what,

what, well, what outfit, what outfit should I buy? Well, for my, for my mother, baby mom,

I was like, yo, what's cool clothing for her? So late, like this week I was buying cool clothes for her or I'm talking to my business partner and he has a baby and I'm like, what apps do you use? And he's like,

Oh, wonder weeks. You got to check out wonder weekss and The Bump. And so I have these apps now. I got to check these out. Oh, Wonder Weeks. I mean, I'm not. Yeah, let's get you there, dude. Now I'm like team baby. Let's go, everyone. Once I'm ready, I'm going to be hitting you up. Dude, please. You'll have like a year of experience by that time. Oh, I'd love if people have kids out there or they babysat kids and they have comments or feedback. I'd love suggestions. Give your parenting tips below. Yeah, man. So that's been, but there's people out there or they they've babysat kids and they have comments or feedback i'd love uh i love suggestions give your parenting tips below yeah man so that's been uh but there's people out there that have gone through it and like same as absumo who's these coaches that have already gone through

it uh and so there's been a lot of people that we've asked for for help i've got a few more questions i want to ask you but i want people to uh get the book million dollar weekend i don't know if anything we talked about here is related to the book, but get the book Million Dollar Weekend, The Surprisingly Simple Way to Launch. Seven-figure business in 48 hours packed with battle-tested entrepreneurial strategies. I think it's interesting because probably when you wrote this book, you were thinking about, okay, what are all the tactical things that I did and other people have done that they can actually launch with strategy and game planning and goal setting and team and delegation and optimization and all these different strategies, which are time tested

and backed. But a lot of these entrepreneurs, they are successful in that, but then they forget how to love themselves, love other people, have healthy relationship with self, feel worthy and deserving of the success they're having, manage the success without overwhelming stress. Like there's all these other emotional things that we need to learn once we create that, if we don't learn them before. And I'm glad you're talking a lot about those things right now. Speaking of having kids and billionaires, you've interviewed a lot of mega millionaires, billionaires who do have kids. And I'm assuming some of them have regrets around not being there for their kids as much as they like to.

Yeah. Or not being as emotionally available, focusing more on the business than them. And then there's others that maybe did it really great and they showed up for their kids in a beautiful way and they built their business in a big way. How do, without being a parent yourself yet, but interviewing a lot of parents with a lot of money, what have you learned from rich people with kids on how to not ruin their kids with access to a private jet, with access to unlimited money, with access to the best private teachers and everything and You know just without spoiling their kids. How do you raise? Conscious loving generous healthy kind humans when you are mega rich. Yeah, I'll find out I'll tell you

What did you learn from people you've interviewed? Yeah, I mean I'd say the number one thing is how are you leading by example? In all aspects. Yeah, so how are you showing up yourself are you della and i was i heard a story where these rich people hired a nanny and then the kids never even saw the parents wow are you doing the dirty work are you doing the dishes are you showing up for are you just outsourcing everything and not showing up for your responsibility and how are the the parents treating money? Because I think if you earn money, which I think everyone should have a chance to do it, which they do, and you have access to be able to have help, to get groceries, to buy whatever things you want, you shouldn't do that. You should definitely do it. It makes your life easier. But I think it's figuring out what are the parts you really want to impact on your kids and how are you teaching them that by doing it yourself? And so that's something that with Moffay, it's talking about like, how do we want

to, do we want to have a bunch of staff? And I'm like, no, we shouldn't, both of us have agreed, like, let's do the hard work in the beginning. And then we figure out, okay, where is it? We don't need to always do these things and we can hire help around that stuff. So that to me is how we're looking at it. Wow. I think most of the people probably have been so focused on this money. And I remember with Moff mafia, I brought her to my house. It's like, it's a $2 million house. It's gone down because the market's going down.

You know, maybe it's one and a half by the time you watched it. I remember brought, brought it in my house and she goes in the door. And I'm like, when I've brought over dates in the past, it was a very long time ago. I'm like,

look at this house. I'm the man. Look at this. Look at this. I have a photo of me. Once you walk in, you know, right there. And, um, she didn't give two i was like what the i did all this work you're

supposed to be impressed she's like and i remember and i asked her about a few months ago i was like you came out of my house you didn't give two you didn't care about it at all she's like i just care about who you are wow and i was like what i think i was like i kind of did all this work and it was a beautiful moment of just for all of us. That's beautiful. Like, who are we without any of these extra things, right? Who are you as a parent? Who are you as an individual?

How are you showing up as a partner in your business, in your relationship, at work, whatever that is? And that was a great moment. I'm very lucky to be with someone like her. Wow. That in parenting, I have a great partner in that. And then how am I showing up that just as a dad? And I, and I asked a friend of mine, I was going to say, how do you, how do you be good parents?

I feel there's people who had great parents and they go to therapy. There's people who had bad parents go to therapy and all these things. The friend was like, it's hard to say how that's going to happen. You just have to give up. And that's it. And that's it. Just show up. Leave by example, give up on these, these kids.

And you can't really control all the other outcomes of this stuff. But if you're doing that, uh, you're doing your best around it. That's it. Just show up, leave bags and give a f*** to these kids. And you can't really control all the other outcomes of this stuff. But if you're doing that, you're doing your best around it. That's beautiful. neediness. I need someone to make me feel more love because I don't have it myself. What do we usually attract and create when we're attracting from neediness, survival, and a lack of wholeness? Yeah, I think that all of that lack, all of that separation is separation from love, right? And the problem is that we've just been conditioned into thinking that it comes from out there. It comes from that person, that drug, that circumstance, that thing, that object, this app, whatever it is. You're relying on your outer world to change your inner world.

And so when things are good, you feel good. When things feel bad, you feel bad. So you're out of fact. You're not a cause in any way. So what if, though, you had a way to find that independent of your outer world? The data we have suggests it's absolutely possible. Now you're free. You're free.

Like you don't need anybody or anything. You'd be a lot cooler to hang around with. Everybody would be like, well, that would allow them why I know this your presence would allow them to remove out of survival and they would open their heart a little bit more they trust you a little bit more they'd be more kind to be more soft-spoken more less egocentric your presence would do that and and may not be the first time, but they would start figuring out like, wow, this guy is really different. You know, something's different

about him. And that's just because you're present and you're giving them your attention without judgment. You see how hard it is to change. You've actually made that change because you've made that change and you see that you've made that change, you see that in them you're no longer judging them you have compassion for them like dude that's a tough one it's tough it took me a long time to get over that but you're not judging them like what's wrong with you you're like oh my god i totally know what that's like you've crossed that river so of course you would never offer them advice unless they asked you. You would probably give them a one-liner. I mean, people who heal in our work, so many times, you know, people in a state of desperation will say, what meditation did you do? And they laugh at them like, it has nothing to do with the meditation.

It was just I changed. Wow. And it was an arduous process. Yeah. But they're telling a different story. They're telling the story of their future. They're not telling the story of their past, their ex or their betrayer or whatever that person is they have no regrets about that because why they wish them well they hope they're happy it's not like they're even trying to forgive to be spiritual you know people who try to forgive

like i'm really going to try to forgive that working hard yeah that's just not how that works like you are in love like you don't have to try to forgive you're just you just don't want to lose this feeling and you take your attention off that person you're good you there's a lot of freedom in that and that's how people heal they're they're building their own field they're they're they're giving their body their energy back again they're taking their power back in so many ways. So, and then there is community, a collective consciousness. Like I like great conversation. I like spirited conversation.

I like to be taught, and scientists are people in my life that I love. I like to engage in just what the limit is and like everybody take us on a journey and see how far we can go. I don't like to talk about like things that really that are that where there's pain or suffering or what i don't i don't uh where there's ego i don't really like that like that's a consciousness and and and everybody's done it but if you're truly on the path that evolution you outgrow it yes you just you outgrow complaining. Like you just don't want to make yourself unhappy anymore.

You outgrow talking about yourself like you're better than anybody else because if you do, you got to face off with that person tomorrow and overcome them tomorrow. After a while, you're like, dude, just stop that so you don't have to deal with you like that anymore. Sure. So you just start outgrowing things that are just the side effect of your evolution. It's not like you have to try to do it. It's just the side effect of a change in consciousness, a change in energy,

change in awareness, change in emotional states. And so in the heart, it is the selfless place. It's a selfless place. We give up from the heart. We care from the heart. We're kind in our heart. We're compassionate in our heart. We're inspired in our heart. We're compassionate in our heart Inspired in our heart, you know work you fall in love with our heart We're grateful in our heart And so I think people feel with every other part of their body, but their heart like they just don't feel with it Right, so I practice feeling with your heart. Yes, and um, we have we have such great data you know, we put these monitors on people for 24 hours right and I used to

think primarily it was women that had these moments now we're seeing that men have them too in fact the men whose spouses take them or partners take them to an event they really don't want to come these guys are gonna be fine they have really really big moments so so we see them in their meditation where you can these little blocks of five minutes and you see the heart just drop into coherence and it's just beautiful lines beautiful looks you can see this it's very easy to see you see this person sustaining it for 45 minutes during their meditation so you're like hmm all right this person nailed it you go to the next meditation

another 45 minutes again done it once it twice, this is looks like this person's getting a skill. All of a sudden, they do it a third time, another 45 minutes, and then lo and behold, those three meditations in one day, then they're in their room, and they're unpacking and getting ready for bed. They're still wearing the heart rate monitor. And while they're not in a meditation, for one hour, while they're just unpacking and getting ready, there's an enormous amount of hard coherence that's taking place for a whole hour. Why? Because just like a person who has a panic attack,

who's embracing the worst case scenario in their mind every day and emotionally feeling the anxiety and the fear if that event actually occurred, that image of that emotion, that stimulus and response, that thought and feeling has conditioned the body to become the mind of anxiety. The body has a panic attack with you or without you.

Try as you may to control it with your conscious mind. You can't control. You program it subconsciously, right? So is it possible to have a spontaneous love attack? That's what she had. She had one hour

or her body went into ecstasy. Wow. And you could see it. A love attack. A love attack and that's what she had she had on one hour or her body went into ecstasy and you could see it I said well attack a love attack Wow she I sent her what did you do she said and I saw it she she laid she got on in bed and she laid down and rolled over and went to sleep so you see her about an hour and ten minutes perfect heart coherence and just see it drop off into sleep well thirteen fourteen hundred different chemicals released to restore and repair the body. So the love that you feel is the glue that creates connection on a cellular level, on a molecular level, on an atomic level. Peel the atom all the way back right to the center of the nucleus and you have nothing but energy. And that energy is what's called low entropy and low entropy

is high order and high order is high energy and it's a lot of a lot of power so as you move closer to to that source of everything physical and material we have such great data to show that people actually run into it when they, their autonomic nervous system goes into these elevated states of high, high, high gamma brainwave patterns. Now, gamma is super consciousness. Gamma is very conscious, very aware. So the person's whole entire autonomic nervous system is processing hundreds of standard deviations of gamma outside of normal. That's not a little gamma. And it's so coherent. Now, the autonomic nervous system touches every single cell in the body, controls and coordinates all those systems, right?

So now imagine stress is autonomic dysregulation, incoherence. This is autonomic regulation, dysregulation, incoherence. This is autonomic regulation, but this is not a little regulation. This is enormous amount of energy that's taking place in the brain. And the autonomic nervous system is on fire. And every single cell in the body is getting touched by that frequency.

And that frequency is carrying information. And energy is informing matter. And that connection creates that feeling of pure love, of ecstasy,asy or bliss and now the person takes a Piece of it with them they become more of it and it becomes them and so we measure Their blood and there's a lot of oxytocin we measure their blood and there's information in that blood It wasn't there before that heals cancer that reverses Alzheimer's that that causes viruses to not enter the cell, I mean, that causes the microbiome to change in a matter of days.

So that interaction with that unifying field of energy that exists beyond our senses, whose signature is oneness, whose signature is wholeness, whose signature is pure love, means then that it lives within you and all around you, then you'd be remembering who you are and where you came from which is pure love and it is the most familiar unfamiliar feeling you'll ever have and it's not chemical one it's electric when you have that moment many times there's an upgrade that takes place in the body there's a disease now it's gone there's the

eczema it's gone there's a myasthenia gravis now it's gone um There's the eczema, it's gone. There's the myasthenia gravis, now it's gone. There's the Parkinson's, now it's gone. There's the blindness, now it's gone. There's energies informing matter and that enormous amount of regulation, high, high amounts of regulation is raising the body in frequency. It's raising the body in light

and all diseases lowering in frequency. So the person is connecting to something way bigger than their senses wait something beyond their senses and it's coming from within them now and you only need one of those and you're you're okay from that point forward and the way you see life you some veil some illusion some conditioning some hypnosis is removed and you're now way more relaxed in your heart and way more awake in your brain instead of unconscious, stressed out in a program, right? And when I think you're more awake in your heart and your brain, you start to attract more great opportunities

and you start to see, is this person in alignment with my type of- Resonating. Resonating in that consciousness. Exactly. You'll be able to find your tribe. It'll be as obvious as anything. Exactly. Whether you're looking for a partner or friends or community or a place to work. Or a business partner that you can trust. Exactly. You resonate and you feel that. And the heart is a strong element in the creative process. So if you have a coherent brain, then you're sending the signal out into the quantum field. That's the potential in the quantum field that you're

selecting that already exists. And you got to have an intention. The more coherent the brain, the more the electrical signal takes place in the field. But if you want to create the experience, the synchronicity, the opportunity, you got to need a coherent heart. And the heart is the magnetic field. And the magnetic field draws things to us. So now we don't have to go get it any longer, because that's what we do in three-dimensional reality. All of a sudden, you start noticing, I really didn't do anything. Well, I got the email, I got the phone call, I got the opportunities. I met this person who led to this. And wow, all of a sudden, I have this life and and so if you're

going to believe in that future that you're imagining with all of your heart it's got to be open and activated and train people to get in that place and when they're in that place they have wonderful relationships with everything and everybody because they're okay with themselves yes can you explain I love this explanation. At your retreat, you talk about this over and over, sending an attention with a signal from your thought out into the field. Yeah. And then with your heart, drawing this intention from the physical world to you physically.

Yeah. Can you explain? Every time you say this, I love it. And it just reminds me about the power of intention and having a coherent heart and brain connection, right? And those are the tools. Being so clear on your thought and thinking of why you want this thing, you know, not wanting it from a place of lack, but already feeling grateful, all these different things

that you teach in the retreat. But can you explain what this does when you have a signal from the brain and you have a magnet from the heart? How does that work in the physical world? And how can we apply this to, you know, if someone's been single for a long time and they're like, you know what, I'm ready for love. I'm ready for a greater connection. And I've let go of my past. I've forgiven. I feel like I'm in a space that's allowing me to feel love myself and I'm allowing to bring a partner to me. How does this connect to that as well? Okay. Well, let's talk about how we typically create. Okay. We basically create in lack of separation and you're walking

down the street and you see someone with a nice car and you're like, I love that car and you don't have it. You want that car because you don't have it. So you're going to go out and work or do whatever you can to get that car. And in order for you to get that car, we're in the plane of demonstration. You've got to do things. So there's the thought of having the car and then there's the experience of having it. And the distance between the thought of the car and the experience of getting it is called time. Yes. That's separation.

car and the experience of getting it is called time. That's separation. So then in three-dimensional reality, everything that we do to bring those two points of consciousness together takes time and energy. So we got to do things. We got to get up and go try things and try things out and do things and work. And then you buy the car finally, and then you may have to make payments. So you got to keep working to pay it off. So it takes a lot of time and energy so in three-dimensional reality the plane of demonstration there's a separation between the thought of what you want and the experience of having and you got to do things to get it and that's called time so then the cause and the effect one point of consciousness another point of consciousness the separation is called time okay well you can get really good at that you can get trained you can go to school, you can

make a lot of the right choices, you can meet the right people, you can figure out ways to accumulate more things and get all the things you want that you think that makes you happy, right? But after a while, you're like, some people never actually create the thing they want. They spend their entire life in the lack because they're waiting for that event to happen to take away the lack of not having it right so their senses are fooling them into the illusion of separation right so they're creating matter to matter and matter to matter takes time and energy yes really good at doing it okay so there's this invisible field of unifying energy that exists beyond the senses that's unifying everything physical and material and the forces of nature the quantum physicists have been trying to unify gravity and

strong and weak nuclear forces and electromagnetism some there's some intelligence that's keeping all of this in order after an explosion like if there's an explosion there's normally disorder but we got a lot of order here so unifying all those principles is really what quantum physics is about and finding mathematics to do it. But undeniably, in this realm, in the quantum realm, there's no separation. There's nothing physical. There's nothing material. There's no matter. That's all taking place in three-dimensional reality. It's all energy. It's all frequency. It's all vibration. It's all information. It's all consciousness. It's all information. It's all consciousness. It's all thought. That is that invisible field of energy.

Yes. So, okay, that invisible field of energy, Einstein said, the field is the sole governing agency of the particle. He didn't say the particle controls the particle. He said the field controls the particle. So, if I can change information in the field, I should be able to affect the particle matter. So it turns out that an atom is 99.99999% energy, information. There's nothing physical or material there. 0.00001 material.

The probability of us seeing the truth of reality is zero. Wow. And we are only seeing a small spectrum of frequency, the rainbow, visible light, bouncing off the most stable form of energy called matter, giving us this hologram,

this illusion of separation. Okay? So if there was a way to create from the field instead of from matter and move closer to source and create from a place of wholeness and less from separation,

I'd have to be able to get to the field. Yes. So then if where you place your attention is where you place your energy, and you develop the ability to take all of your attention off your body, all your attention off all the people in your life, all the objects and things, your cell phone, your car, your house, whatever, all the relationships with all the people, all the places you need to go, the place you're sitting, the place you grew up, the place you sleep, the place you work, and nothing about the predictable future of the familiar past and settle into the present

moment. You would go from a somebody to a nobody, from a someone to a no one, from something to nothing, from somewhere to nowhere, from sometime to no time. That is the moment of your pure consciousness. You would be disinvesting all of your attention all of your energy out of this three-dimensional reality out of the known and placing it on the unknown now let's demystify the process take away everything physical and material in the universe take away the earth take away the moon take away all the planets all the moons from the planets take away the Sun the light from the Sun the stars all the light from the stars galaxy say

everything away wipe everything out physical, what are you left with? Nothing. Turns out that that nothing is filled with a lot of frequency and energy. That's true. And I don't know how to explain nothing to a materialist. But when you can linger in that place without a name, without a face, without a body weight, without a diet, without a disease, without a profession, without an identity in any way, without a past, and you can linger as pure consciousness, something really profound happens to the brain. Different compartments of the brain that have been modulated or

compartmentalized or subdivided because of the stress hormones, you know, shift your attention from one person to another person, to another problem, to another thing, that habituation fragments the brain. The brain becomes a house divided against itself, and you narrow your focus. You overfocus. You become obsessive about something. That's what we do in stress. It turns out if you open your awareness to nothing, the brain starts getting highly organized. Different compartments of the brain that were modulated start unifying. The brain starts firing this more holistic state, and the whole entire brain is resonating at the same frequency. Now you get that brain going for that period of time like

that, waves start that are coherent, start interfering with each other. And when they do, they create bigger amplitudes. The higher amplitude, the higher the energy in the brain. So now you have resonance in the brain and the brain starts getting very mathematical, very organized, right? So that brain that's coherent, the entire brain is functioning as one neurological network. The two hemispheres are coming together and there's this kind of psychic union called wholeness.

Now that state of coherence in moving out of the beta brainwave states into a slower brainwave state produces electrical signals. Yes. And that electrical signal is the intention. The more clear your intention is, states into a slower brainwave state produces electrical signals. Yes. And that electrical signal is the intention. The more clear your intention is, the more coherent the brain is, the stronger the signal.

Okay, so if you decided to create from the field instead of from matter and you were just pure consciousness and I asked you to send the signal out from a coherent brain, whatever that thing is that you wanted, we trained you how to do that, then you would be shimmering the entire vacuum, that entire void. You are that. You're not you any longer. You're the source, right? So if you're the source and you're sending the signal out, then you're touching the consciousness of everybody, of everyone, of everything, of everywhere, every time. The entire field is becoming electric because of your intention wow okay now if your source why would you go anywhere to get anything and so consciousness

is coherent brain and then the energy of the heart is love and pure pure love is source so if i asked you to fall in love with that future and i asked you to draw the future to you with the magnetic field of the heart the heart produces a magnetic field up to three meters wide that's that's that's studied so now love is the glue that holds the atom together. Okay? Okay, if I get a coherent heart, the more coherent my heart is, the more energy in my heart, the more I can draw my future to me. So you send the signal out, you draw the experience to you, and now you don't go anywhere to get anything.

When there's a vibrational match between your energy and some potential in the quantum field, when there's a match, you start seeing those synchronicities. You synchronize your energy to that possibility. And so you start seeing the coincidences and the synchronicities and the opportunities. I'm not talking about a parking space. I'm talking about like real life events. Yes. This is a critical moment for people because I think people don't realize how powerful they really are.

because I think people don't realize how powerful they really are. When that event happens in their life, they will look back at every single betrayer, everything that happened in their past, and they won't care any longer. That's the moment their past no longer exists because they're proving to themselves what they innately already know that they may have forgotten, which is what is the creator of their life.

And when you have that synchronicity, you are humbled by the truth and you feel this sense of greatness, like real greatness. Like I am honored to be human. I'm honored to be alive. I'm honored that I actually created. It's not the wealth.

You can ask anybody in our community. It's not the health. It's who you became. And people think they want this or they want that, but I'm telling you what they want is wholeness. And you have wholeness that you no longer want. How could you want when you're whole? Game change is really amazing. And so the closer we get to source and that's our work, how deep can you go? And we teach people how to go as deep as they can. There's a brainwave state that takes place that I can predict. When

we see it, I know the person's going to have a big moment. In fact, we can predict it, we can replicate it, and we can induce it. And the person goes into these really slow theta brainwave states, and that's when they're in a hypnotic state. They're very suggestible to information. And they're in coherent theta, And when they move outside of normal, we know the next moment is they're going to hook up. And the brain's going to go into gamma. And they're going to feel a whole lot of love. Not a little love, like a lot of love.

And it's going to be an arousal. And it's going to be ecstasy. It's going to be bliss. To them, they're having, they're seeing the unknown self. The 99.99% of reality that we're unaware of. And don't exclude yourself from that. And so the person has a moment in the unknown and a profound mystical moment or an understanding

or a download or a connection to the source or a healing or something that takes place. They took a bite of wholeness. They took a bite of it. They became more whole. And when you're more whole, you don't need as much. That's right. When you don't need as much, you're really cool to be around. It's really easy to be around you.

In fact, if you're so whole that you feel so abundant that the only thing you want to do is give, we have people in this work that have created millions of dollars and they're giving it away. And the more they give it away, the more money they keep getting. That's the experiment for them that's their experiment they're trying that out as an experiment why because an abundant person would never hold on to anything they have more than they need so the side effect of creating from the field instead of from matter shortens the distance between the thought of what we want

and the experience of having it and that takes means there's less time and the greater frequency the closer we are to source the less separation is two points of consciousness it means there's less time it should happen in a shorter amount of time in three-dimensional reality and that event it's none of your business when it's going to happen or how it's going to happen because the moment you try to predict it you're back to the newtonian model of reality you're wanting and needing again you're laying a known yeah over the unknown and and and and the consciousness that lives within us that source says I honor free will go for it do it your way yes and and so we have to lay down the very thing we used our whole life to get what we want for something greater to occur and that's not not an easy thing. Oh, man. Is it? Because there's such a propensity to jump in there and do, right?

I know. Control it or force it. And so we control, we force, we predict, we fight for it, we manipulate, we cheat, we lie, we steal. We do everything when we're mad or trying to change matter to take away that lack or separation. But if there's an alternative way to do that, to shorten the distance between one point of consciousness and another point between cause and effect, and you start believing that you're the creator of your reality, you stop trying so hard. People in this work, I think that the excitement for me and what I'm proud of in terms of our community is that they do the work. Not because they have to

or they want to please God or do the right thing. It's not that. They don't want the magic to end in their life. They don't want it to end. It's not like, oh, geez, I got to go create my life. It's kind of like,

someone sent me a text just yesterday, a very, very, very wealthy, very successful person and he said to me, I need to take a break from creating. Like, I'm going to take a break. Is that okay? Is it okay? Like, his whole life has just gotten super beautiful. And he's so alive again. All these wonderful things happen. He said, I almost don't feel worthy. I almost don't feel worthy of so many great things. You know how many times you showed up for yourself?

You aren't worthy. That's why it's happening. Yes. You aren't worthy. You showed up, man. If you don't show up, you don't believe you're a creator. You show up, it means you do believe. And so many people, as I said, they may say, well, I think this stuff works, but I don't

know if it works for me. Well, this is a big moment because if you don't show up then you don't believe it's possible but if you show up you still believe it's possible so showing up for yourself every day investing in yourself is investing in your future and people say to me well I did it for two weeks and nothing happened I say to them you're not that good like I don't know what else to tell you it's not like it doesn't work for you. It's just like, learn a little bit more knowledge. Understand what you're doing.

Your health condition isn't changing. Okay. Your relationship, you want a relationship. And you want a relationship and love. And you're living the three quarters of your day in fear. You think you're going to attract love. You've got to be able to feel that feeling instead of fear. And when it's the hardest, it matters the most.

Then you're worthy. Right. You're worthy of love. You are worthy. When you get to that point where you're worthy of love, it's not like entitlement. Like, I'm worthy of love. That's not how that works. You are worthy of it.

You're so worthy of it, you're okay without anybody. That's when it gets really good. That's powerful. When you don't need it. Because you don't need anything. Because you're okay without anybody. That's when it gets really good. That's powerful. When you don't need it. Because you don't need anything. Because you feel whole. Exactly. Now, I call that the natural state of being.

That's why we practice so much, relax in the heart and awaken the brain, because there are so many biological changes, neurological, genetic changes that take place in that present moment. So many wonderful changes so the person who wants the wealth the person who wants the relationship they can't be saying or the or the health they can't be saying well how come i'm not healed the person who's the person who's in the process of healing would never say that that's the person that's the old self right that says how come i don't have a new relationship well we'll figure it out like the two weeks went by and were you spending the rest of your day in fear and in

lack were you were you hating yourself and hating your life who do you think you think you think you're worthy of love at this point you're not gonna you're not gonna be happy no one's gonna make you happy until you make you happy and And that changes everything. You find that person and they're happy for no reason. And not just happy like always happy, but a sensibility that they can manage themselves and manage their emotions and manage their attention in such a way that's admirable. Like you're inspired by that person. Your relationship, the person that you're with is an inspiration to you. Like, wow, I'm inspired by this person. I'm moved by this person. Your relationship, the person that you're with is an inspiration to you. Like, wow, I'm inspired by this person. I'm moved by this person. I want to show up for this person.

I want to give as much as they give in this relationship. I want to care as much as they care. I want to be as kind as they are. I want to see when everybody else reacts, this person doesn't react. Something is cool about that person. That gives the person or the people that were in relationship permission to show up differently. And that's when it becomes infectious. That's when it becomes wonderful. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness. Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's episode with all the important links. And if you want weekly exclusive bonus episodes with me personally, as well as ad-free listening, then make sure to subscribe to our Greatness Plus

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