The School of Greatness - The 5 Red Flags In Dating You Should Never Ignore EP 1182

Episode Date: October 29, 2021

Today’s episode is a special mashup episode focused all about the biggest red flags in dating that you should never ignore! We’ve had a lot of incredible conversations with relationship experts an...d therapists that I know will help you gain clarity on wherever you currently are in your love life.In this episode we discuss the biggest mistake you’re most likely making in your relationship, why it’s so important for your values to match, how to understand the difference between love and lust and so much more!For more go to: www.lewishowes.com/1182Matthew Hussey’s book - https://www.amazon.com/Get-Guy-Learn-Secrets-Deserve/dp/0062241753Esther Perel’s books - https://www.estherperel.com/booksDeVon Franklin’s books - https://devonfranklin.com/author/Dr. Shefali’s books - https://www.drshefali.com/books/Stephan Speaks’ books - https://www.stephanspeaksshop.com/collections/booksThe Power of Erotic Intelligence with Esther Perel: https://link.chtbl.com/732-podFind Lasting Love with Matthew Hussey: https://link.chtbl.com/811-pod 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Think beyond sex. How do you teach men to do that when that's all they've been conditioned to think? Well, here's how. Welcome to the School of Greatness. My name is Lewis Howes, a former pro-athlete turned lifestyle entrepreneur. And each week we bring you an inspiring person or message to help you discover how to unlock your inner greatness. Thanks for spending some time with me today.
Starting point is 00:00:24 Now let the class begin. Welcome back everyone to the School of Greatness. Today's episode is special because it's focusing on the biggest red flags in dating that you should never ignore. And we've had so many incredible conversations with the top relationship experts and therapists in the world that I know will help you gain clarity on wherever you currently are in your love life. And in this episode, we discuss the biggest mistakes you're most likely making in your relationship with my friend and relationship expert Matthew Hussey. Why it's so
Starting point is 00:01:01 important for both individuals values to match with psychotherapist Esther Perel, how to understand the difference between love and lust with expert Devon Franklin, how to make sure you're not in the wrong relationship and how to begin a new relationship with Dr. Shefali, and how to communicate and understand your partner better in order to prevent arguments and a breakup with my man, Stefan Speaks. And if you're inspired by this, make sure to share this with someone that you think would love hearing this as well. And if this is your first time here, quick reminder to follow and subscribe to the School
Starting point is 00:01:34 of Greatness and let us know the part of this episode you enjoyed the most by leaving us a review over on Apple Podcast with your thoughts and inspiration. And today's fan of the week is from Agnewix who said the universe always guides us to find the right path. And mine is the school of greatness podcast. Words cannot describe how much this podcast helped me to finally find myself, learn, grow and become the best version I can be. I'm so grateful for the show and all the guests, their honesty, their challenges and the inspirational
Starting point is 00:02:04 stories. So big thank you again for being show and all the guests, their honesty, their challenges, and the inspirational stories. So big thank you again for being the fan of the week. And if you want a chance to be shouted out on the podcast as a fan of the week, leave us a review at the end of this episode. Okay, in just a moment, we'll break down the red flags in relationships that you should never ignore. in this section matthew hussey breaks down the biggest reason why relationships can fall apart after you're in a relationship for a while and past the honeymoon phase what's the biggest mistake people find today when trying to find their love or find someone that they you know their soulmate. Oh my God. What's the biggest mistake? Is it being yourself? I think there's something of a sense of entitlement that most of us have, or that most people have when they're going out to date,
Starting point is 00:02:59 where they somehow feel like they're just owed the love of their life, that it shouldn't be difficult, that they don't have to do anything, that it's enough, that they are just them. You know, I don't know if you've ever seen Bridget Jones, but there's a line in Bridget Jones where, forget his name, Colin Firth, I think it is.
Starting point is 00:03:24 He's looking at bridget and he's i think he says i love exactly how you are i love you like no changes nothing i love you exactly how you are and it sometimes we feel like we're owed that And it kind of becomes an excuse, again, not to grow, not to, you know, I don't, frankly, it doesn't really matter what you think you're owed in love. No one cares. I think it's the same thing with work and, you know, so many people are entitled and they think they should just get a job, you know? And so the biggest criticism I get all the time, which I'm happy with as a criticism
Starting point is 00:04:04 of my advice is, well, why do you need to do all of this stuff? Why can't you just, you know, go through life and, you know, when the time is right, you'll know. Why do you have to do all of these techniques? I'm happy with that criticism. If that's what you think, you're not my audience. Because my audience are the same people that go to a business seminar to make more money. They're the same people that say, you know what? If I want to start a business, I might actually need to know what the hell I'm doing.
Starting point is 00:04:34 It's not enough to have confidence in life. You have to have competence. You have to actually know what you're doing. And that's what a lot of people don't know in their love lives. If you you for example There's what there's something I come I came to understand. I was I remember once having a breakup It was the most painful breakup I've ever had I was really really in a bad way over it and a while later
Starting point is 00:04:55 I spoke to this to this woman on the phone and I Had said to her on the in a brave moment on the phone I said why did why did you want to break up because by the way you talked to the woman you're dating yeah the the one that had later on the phone later like a year or two later it was less raw i was feeling a little how long was the relationship for a couple of years okay wow and um uh and i was i was pretty caught up about it now the funny thing was uh to make a long story short, she had actually done something I didn't like
Starting point is 00:05:27 and that I thought was inappropriate and disrespectful. And I remember going to her the next day and saying, I think we need to break up. During the relationship, she did this, yeah. Yeah. And she then said to me, okay. That was when I knew she was breaking up with me it wasn't it wasn't you know when you think you're breaking up with them no no she was already doing it she was breaking up with
Starting point is 00:05:52 me uh and it was what was so painful about it is that she was she didn't mind uh i was i thought she might get upset i thought no she didn't mind and that was the most painful part about it and i shouldn't even fake it you know most painful part about it and I should even fake it you know most women would fake that they might I can't believe this but they're really I know no she looked like she was okay this is a good decision so I so I remember a while later we were on the phone and we became we're friends today we're very good friends in fact and uh i had said to her on the phone um why did we break up i said what what was it for you that i wasn't doing and i braced myself for the answer she said do you really want to know honest feedback and i said i literally thought to myself wait do
Starting point is 00:06:38 i really want to know and i said i grit my teeth and i went, yeah, I want to know. She said, you were boring. And it was so much worse than I thought it would be. Do you know what I mean? Like, not just like, oh, well, you know, it was just, I was young and I was, you know, wanted to be free. No, you were boring. It was really cutting. And I remember resisting the urge to bite back. And I said,
Starting point is 00:07:07 That wasn't boring. Exactly. I said, No, you're, Shut up, idiot. You asked the question. So now, Listen.
Starting point is 00:07:13 So I said, Why was I boring? She said, You, She said, When I first met you, You were the most ambitious person I'd ever met. And she said, I never met someone with such an ability
Starting point is 00:07:25 to decide they want something and then get it. And she said it was so sexy. She said, but as we went into our relationship, the more time went on, the more that was all you were. You were super ambitious. You knew how to get what you want,
Starting point is 00:07:42 but you were so one dimensional. You know, it was all you did. Even in our free time, you were just, you were on want but it you were so one-dimensional you know it was all you did even in our free time you were just you're on the phone you're on your laptop you would talk about your business you were always talking shop there was never anything else you had to talk about we didn't do anything spontaneous we never went and had adventures it was just all one track and she said it got boring yeah and said wow she was right she was right there was nothing i could argue with and i realized something in that moment the thing that makes that one quality can make you really attractive right but it won't keep someone can make you get the person right it can make you sexy it can make you uh intriguing um mysterious right
Starting point is 00:08:26 but it can even for a time make someone worship or idolize you one quality but one quality will not hold someone because the reality was there was a flip side to ambition which would have made it eminently more attractive and there are a few right if you pair ambition say with an ability to enjoy life now that person is really super sexy you you you combine ambition with a sense of spontaneity for example adventure very very sexy yes ambition on its own is when you look at it from afar very very attractive you go women will say i want an ambitious man i like that but when they get up close if it's only one side to a coin it quickly becomes unattractive the uh someone i'm a big fan of or unfortunately unfortunately has passed, but Christopher Hitchens, he once said about love, the challenges in not allowing your strengths to negate themselves. Wow.
Starting point is 00:09:33 And that's a very powerful statement because my ambition was my greatest strength that also had the ability to be the thing that crippled me. Because what happens is when you get good at something and you get validation from it. You want to keep doing it and get better at it. And it becomes, if you're not careful, a muscle that you train to the point of mutation. And then every other part of you is not working, has atrophied.
Starting point is 00:10:04 So now you have a complete imbalance it's like a you know i remember working out at the gym once and my trainer i was doing pull-ups and was trying to work out my back my back was fine i could keep going and then all of a sudden my my forearms gave up while i was trying to pull myself up and i said this is so annoying we're trying to work my back but my four and my back's fine but my forearms have given up right he said you're only as strong as your weakest link if your if your forearms aren't aren't there you're not going to be able to train your back as well as you could yeah so so here's the the the point about this which i find very interesting about dating to your point of what's the biggest mistake people make apart from of course the entitlement it's over reliance
Starting point is 00:10:47 on a key strength that they have come to uh rely on as their source of validation success confidence right over reliance on that i had come to over rely on essentially being ahead of the curve for my age. Yeah. That was like the thing that I was always based. My confidence on was I am way ahead of the curve for people. My age, my business is going great. Correct.
Starting point is 00:11:15 The people I grew up with in my age group are not where I am. Just are still living at home. But guess what? That alone is boring. Yeah, it's boring. And it doesn't make an interesting rounded sexy person the um but when you combine it with something else it becomes what i call unique pairing it's a bit like if i if i wanted to really get a woman attracted tonight not me
Starting point is 00:11:39 but like send a guy out to get a woman attracted i could literally if if he went in and he was a little cocky and teasing but in the right way not an arrogant obnoxious but just he knew how to he knew how to play with her and then a couple of hours in later you know maybe it's getting late he comes out of the restroom and after being teasing and playful and silly he says you know what it's getting late um i called you a car um i don't want you walking outside and he says i have to go as well i have to get up early he takes her outside um he gives her a little kiss he says all jokes aside i've had the best night with you tonight i'll call you later this week puts Puts her in the car. Car drives away. That woman will be going, oh, crap. I like this guy.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Now, the reason wasn't because he was a gentleman. And it wasn't because he was cocky and teasing. It was because he was both. It's the and. If he does just one thing, it's not interesting enough. Because you can replace the cocky guy like that yes women know that yes they can go out tonight and meet a cocky guy in hollywood any night of the week they can go out the next they don't even have to go out the next night
Starting point is 00:12:54 they can turn to their left and meet another one straight away by the way they even though people complain about chivalry is dead you can go out and meet a gentleman you can go out and meet lots of nice guys that's all they are right incredibly boring women will never too nice they don't hold a woman right so but now you find like what seems to be a good man but with an edge that's a unique pairing yes and that's someone that becomes not an attraction but an addiction oh uh and there's a and there's a a big big difference so i i believe that we will actually i believe these pairings already exist within us but we've over trained certain muscles we've over trained certain qualities that we've gotten used to as habit yeah for some people it's being funny for other people it's being intellectual and they always they're the person
Starting point is 00:13:42 that knows everything about everything they've read every book they can always quote so and so uh for others it's uh being seductive that's the thing they got really good at so they're really good at you know getting someone into bed or or getting someone sexually attracted but they're never the person you want to eat pizza with the next day you know so it's like it's finding those combinations that make you go oh my god the person i was with last night they were this and they were this it's finding those combinations that make you go, Oh my God, the person I was with last night, they were this and they were this is the, and the, and is where else they could do.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Exactly. And you're, and by the way, that's what makes it so hard. I say this to everybody. If you want to know why you found it so hard to get over a certain X, look for the unique pairing. Cause they had multiple things
Starting point is 00:14:25 there was there was some unique pairing that made you feel addicted like they were difficult to replace oh and and that's what scares us the more unique pairings you have the more you become a rare bird in the dating marketplace right right and and when you become rare people get really terrified of of losing you and that's always the case. Whenever you think of someone you've lost and you think like your heart aches for having lost them. For like months and months. Yeah. It's because you go, it's not because you go, they were good in bed.
Starting point is 00:14:55 It's because you go, they were good in bed and they made me laugh. Like, I never find that. And they were nice to my parents. And I took them home and she was a sweetheart to my like there's there's those moments where you go god i can't find this person again and that terrifies you so again to be more positive about it be the person that has the unique pairings that other people are terrified of losing yeah you know i like this because i feel like well i don't feel like but the statistics show that the divorce rate is up higher than ever right now, right?
Starting point is 00:15:27 Isn't it something like 50%? I don't know if you hear the numbers. I hear these numbers. I hear 50% banded around. How accurate it is, I don't know. But it seems like people are getting married multiple times and they're easy to get out of relationships. They're, you know, and I'll speak for myself. And I am a lot of fears
Starting point is 00:15:45 about long-term commitment you know most of my relationships are a year um maybe longer but usually about a year and then i'm like either bored or i get scared because i have my own walls and i still get to grow and learn for sure um i'm curious why do you think so many people bail in relationships and why do you think so many people bail in relationships? And why do you think so many people are getting divorced more than ever now? Oh, man, that's a big question. I, well, I think there are a number of things. I can have a stab at this.
Starting point is 00:16:21 I think, firstly, there is less of a stigma now than there has ever been about divorce it's okay now right right not you know and it is certainly there are parts of the world where it's not and there are certain religions and cultures where it's not but but certainly less than ever sure let's speak in america at least right there's less of a stigma yeah about divorce we don't feel like complete failures in the same way that we might once have. Or we wouldn't have, there would have been a time where we would have been outcast from society for it. So there's that. I think there's also a great sense of entitlement these days where people feel like their ode and, you know, marriage is you've met the right person so it's supposed to all feel great and when it doesn't feel great and when it's not all working there
Starting point is 00:17:11 must be something wrong with this person not with me not with the amount of effort i'm investing into this relationship there must be something wrong with this person ah it turns out they're not the one after all i thought they were but they're not the search continues so so the entitlement has people believing that it it shouldn't be effort and and that's a very dangerous way to think of relationships it's very if you really want to see who someone is in their relationship um talk to them about sex and and passion and and desire in their long-term relationship and you'll get some very heated answers because some people will say it's absolutely paramount. You have to maintain that passion.
Starting point is 00:17:54 You have to find new ways to excite each other. Me and my partner, we're always searching. We're always exploring each other. We're always trying to figure out what's gonna turn you on tomorrow? How do I do something that you didn't predict or how do i get you to know me a little less so that you get desire again you know whatever it is other people and i've had hosts on tv get very very uptight and and and upset over this issue and it's usually they're
Starting point is 00:18:22 overplaying their hand when they do they'll say well matt it's different when you're in a marriage when you're when you have kids when you're in those situations it's different right you you don't you you can't just think of it like that you don't did matt you think other things become more important and and i always know who they are in their relationship when those things happen because it people i think don't go into relationships with a healthy view of what is required over the long term and what is required uh well there's a there's a there's a woman who is a great authority on this called esta perel and she talks about the difference between love and desire and i'm a big fan of her work and i think she articulates it very very well
Starting point is 00:19:06 that in relationships you have to have both love and desire love isn't enough love is the the thing that makes me want to get close to you when i when i when i feel things for you i want to know your mind i want to know everything there is to know about you i want to know what you're thinking i want to know what you're doing tonight i want to know who your friends are i want to become friends with them i want to get close to your mom or what like it's all these things that's love the desire to almost become merged but desire exists in the space between two people so you feel desire when there's a void and when there's some mystery and when you're still getting to know someone. So desire, ironically, is the thing that ends up creating love because desire is like, I want to get close to you because I don't have you.
Starting point is 00:19:54 And then when I get close, we feel feelings of love, but not desire now. In this section, Esther Perel shares why it's so crucial for values with your partner to match and what happens when they don't match up. How many values in common do you need to have with your partner, life partner? The important ones. It's not how many, but there are a few of them that are really important. Which ones would you say? Make or break based on your experience. I think, I'm not going to say them in order of importance, but one of them that really matters is your relationship to others.
Starting point is 00:20:34 If you are a person that values relationships, that sees the presence of others in your life as central. And you are with somebody who does not want community or does not know how. I mean, I'm talking not about what they would like to learn through you, but their value is you do things alone, you live alone, you rely on yourself, you know, you don't bring people over to the house. I have a couple I just spoke with yesterday, you know, and he loves't bring people over to the house i have a couple i just spoke with yesterday you know and he loves to have people over and she just nobody should come ever to the house she wants her her space the whole thing and i'm thinking wow this is a tough one it's not just about the how
Starting point is 00:21:17 it's his whole life is about being with people and her whole life is about not being with people necessarily that's not how she experiences it. Now the question is, is she drawn to more of what he has to offer? And is he drawn to more of what she has? If these are totally, then okay, it's different values come together and they mix and match. But if you have these two separations like that so that's one one of the beautiful questions i ask in how his work is um were you raised for autonomy or were you raised for loyalty were you raised for self-reliance or were you raised for interdependence which one would you
Starting point is 00:21:59 say for me it was a self-reliance meaning what? Nobody will ever help you as well as you can help yourself. You only have yourself to count on. Don't trust people. You're on your own, buddy. Or raised for loyalty. Interdependence, loyalty. You're never alone. There's people around you.
Starting point is 00:22:20 You owe others. Others are there for you. Relationships is what makes you. I think I was both based on like circumstances. Correct. The circumstances made you reliable because you were alone with mom. But the messaging was you have me. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Okay. So I think both. I think that question is a fundamentally interesting question. Okay. And that question is a fundamentally interesting question that people can ask themselves when they partner in business and in love. Raise for self-reliance or loyalty? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Interdependence. Are you part, do you see yourself as connected to others and it's your connections that give you a sense of anchoring meaning relevance importance is all of that or do you see yourself as fundamentally on your own i think travel curiosity you often will have a complementarity between one person who is curious and eager to discover and goes on you know and then another person your question about to be alone or doesn't want to travel once it doesn't want to but it's also likes comfort likes repetition likes the familiar um i think the religious values if you have a person who you know those those matter a
Starting point is 00:23:39 great deal um children do you want family or do you not want family if you you know if you want a family then make sure that you find someone who wants a family what are you what are you going to do try to convince some you know now i don't think you have to have the same values on everything i think you have to have a similar outlook on life which is a vision like exactly the same as when you a vision do you you know do you want to own a home do you think that economic achievement is important do you want to live in an extended family? You think that living intergenerationally really is important and you have somebody else who says you know I don't want your parents over. You know do you do you want to live in more than one
Starting point is 00:24:35 place? You know I think these are essential you know money, feelings or emotions, religious beliefs, attitude toward life. It's not a specific value about something. A value is a cluster of things. It's a cluster of importance, of systems, of meanings. That's a value. And you may not find someone with everything it's the same but someone with a similar mindset you're saying overall i met a husband of mine with whom i am for more than three decades who had never left the
Starting point is 00:25:17 u.s when i met him really i never knew such a person existed. Coming from Europe, that was unheard of for us. He lived in Europe? No, he lived in the States. Oh, he lived in the States. He was American. I came from Europe. In Europe, you travel everywhere all the time, even if you have nothing. You work one month, you get the money, and then you go to the next country, which is two hours away.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Yeah. He never traveled outside of the U.S.? He had never been outside of the U.S. Yeah, he would always tell me he'd been to the Virgin Islands. Okay. But, you know, for the rest... And I thought, oh, my God, how does one, you know, who is such a person? But I knew it was because of the circumstances of his life and that if he could, he would. And he was intensely curious.
Starting point is 00:25:58 If you just said, oh, he's never traveled, then you misinterpret. You don't want to just look at the manifest thing of, you know, you want to say, and behind this, is there someone who would actually like that, who just hasn't had the opportunity and is curious and just says, let's go. So don't get fooled just by what you see. Find out what is the belief behind it, the aspiration, the longing, the interest, and then you get a sense of what is the value.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Do you think it's, I'm going to go back to expectation. Do you feel like we should diversify expectations or what did you say the word was? Calibrate. Calibrate expectations. Or should we be finding someone that can reach that expectation that we want? No, I think it's just impossible. I think you need to calibrate. Calibrate.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Always calibrate. You calibrate. You constantly will be disappointed. Do you know a single relationship where you haven't been disappointed? No. Okay. I mean, disappointment, which can lead to suffering, is part of a relationship. The minute you have a relationship,
Starting point is 00:27:06 you have an expectation. That expectation means that you want something, love, closeness, intimacy, partnership, business affiliation, you name it, creates dependence. The moment you have an attachment, you have dependence. That dependence means that you have
Starting point is 00:27:25 power or i have power if i expect something from you i confer power on you you have power over me i have power over you by definition there will be moments when that power doesn't go in the direction that i want and i'll be disappointed i'll be disappointed is there a single child that didn't have a disappointment from their parents? It doesn't exist. Right. This idyllic thing you're talking about, it doesn't exist. The next thing is, what do you do with that disappointment?
Starting point is 00:27:54 Hey, can I come tell you? I'm really disappointed. You let me down. I thought we were in this together. I trusted you. And you say, I see your point. Or do you say, what the hell are you talking about? You're just inventing this. You're delusional. None of this, you know, I see your point. Or do you say, what the hell are you talking about? You're just inventing this.
Starting point is 00:28:06 You're delusional. None of the, you know, and everything in between. That's how you do a relationship. It's really based on the repair. It's not based on the... It's how we heal the disappointment. Yes. It's how you repair all these breaches.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Yeah. Moment by moment. You come back, you know, and the repair is not i am so sorry you prepare me sometimes be hey do you want a glass of water or hey did you see this article in the newspaper john gutman is this very interesting thing about that he says the repair is not that you come and you do a mea culpa is that you do what he calls bids for connection you show the other that they still matter i brought a newspaper in at a time when we show the other that they still matter. I brought a newspaper in at a time when we still
Starting point is 00:28:47 had newspapers. That was one of his examples. I brought the paper in. I think of you. I'm pissed at you. You just annoyed me. We just had a spat. But you still... I still care about you. I still care. You're still in my life. I still respect you. So it's how we repair disappointment on a daily or weekly
Starting point is 00:29:03 or monthly basis is Minutes sometimes. Is the success of the relationship. And that means also how you come and you say, you take responsibility. Yes. I think, I actually think that taking responsibility is the ultimate freedom. I messed up. I shouldn't have done this. You know, can I do that? that you know it really is being accountable mm-hmm what if you're instead of blaming the other what if it actually in that moment wasn't it doesn't matter it wasn't you don't have to agree with anything I didn't mean to it wasn't my intention yeah it's you know we are
Starting point is 00:29:39 going to sleep a lot but it's about just saying it and for that you have to it's about saying it and for that you have to it's about saying it and for that you have to be able to see that you're a flawed person who can be accountable without that becoming a major source of shame and i'm terrible it's a different thing between saying i messed up and i messed up how i like this distinction how How do we, in our mind, because I think in the past, relationships, when I messed up in a small term, right? Like a disappointment, a small disappointment. Saying like, I'm sorry, or taking responsibility, or saying, you know what, that was my fault. Was like a humiliation.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Well, it's more like, look at what I'm like. Why shall I? No, it's more like, look at what I'm like. Why shall I? No, it's more like, here's all the actions I'm doing right. Right. Today I've done this, which was an expectation. And I've done that.
Starting point is 00:30:32 And I took the trash out or whatever. I'm just, and I, you know, did something kind of you. And I wrote a note and I did this and I took us to dinner. I did all these things well today, but I messed up on this one.
Starting point is 00:30:43 So for me, I used to say to myself like, gosh, but can't you see the whole picture of, like, all the good things I'm doing? Why do I need to be in our conversation about, like, one small thing? That's what I used to feel like. And do you feel like we should just be saying, you know what, take responsibility anyways for those moments? Even if you're doing lots of good things, you know what I mean? I'm not a perfect human being. It's like I might slip.
Starting point is 00:31:09 The story is told by you. Yes. The other person is the one that needs to tell you about all the good things that you've done. You felt, I do all of this. I do one thing wrong and now I have to go into the dark pit. Yes. You know, but that's because you had a partner who did not enough tell you about all the good things you did. Right, so this is about me.
Starting point is 00:31:33 If you are in a relationship, you need that other person to acknowledge all of the positive stuff. So that when you have to say something about the moment that you messed up, you don't feel like this is an endless chore. Yeah, exactly. Or I think it's more like okay, if we're going to acknowledge one thing that I didn't do, at least acknowledge something of the thing I did do, right? It's not at least, it's a must.
Starting point is 00:31:57 It's a must. It's not bad if I shouldn't be needing that, or I shouldn't be complaining. You should need it. You should need it. You totally should need it. Don't only acknowledge the bad also acknowledge the good. Not also. It's a must. It's a mandate.
Starting point is 00:32:14 You know, what happens sometimes in distressed relationships because you were in a distressed relationship at that moment and this is true you can directly take this into the workplace. In a distressed relationship, the tendency is to highlight the negative and disregard the positive.
Starting point is 00:32:33 The positive is just a given. The negative will make a big deal out of it. So the one thing you didn't do becomes the whole conversation. And then what does that person do? Of course that person says, but you disregard all the other stuff. And rightly so, because it has been disregarded. In a distressed relationship, the positive, you know, if we get there on time, it's because there was no traffic. And if we get there late, it's because of you.
Starting point is 00:32:59 The good is chance, the bad is attributed to you. Or in a different version of that is what we call negative attribution error if i am in a bad mood it's because i had a bad day but if you're in a bad mood it's because you're a nasty person who is always so cantankerous mine is circumstantial yours is characterological so when you'd say i was in a relationship in which when i did one thing bad it was so overblown and i felt like everything else was being disregarded that's a sign of a distressed relationship in and of itself interesting the fact that you because in a normal relationship somebody else says thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you then you finally don't do something he says oh i really messed up there i forgot sorry right and it's not such a big deal okay because
Starting point is 00:33:48 you are seen for the whole person if you have to make a speech about you should see the whole person you're not in a good relationship oh there you go okay or you're not in the dynamic in your relationship is not a good one no that's that that in itself is a sign of a bad dynamic. You shouldn't have to say this. So I wasn't crazy. Okay, gotcha. No. Okay, gotcha. No. And the interesting thing about this is how much it applies at home, and the same thing happens at work.
Starting point is 00:34:19 In this section, we have Devon Franklin, who's breaking down the difference between love and lust in a world where dating has become more complicated than ever and how it's crucial that discipline is developed for a committed relationship. I feel like a lot of people are stressed out more than ever today of, first, finding a partner, dating, is just stressful for people. Then when you're in a relationship, okay, what about marriage and then when you're married how do you stay happily married then we get divorced you say well I'm a failure right last 10 20 years I've been a failure this was all for nothing what's wrong with me and I have to
Starting point is 00:34:55 repeat the cycle how do I find the right person yeah and I think it's stressful because there's so many options in today's world with social media there's so many options and everything's world. With social media, there's so many options. Everything looks yummy. Everything looks tasty. Everything looks exciting and fresh and new and interesting. So this is what I loved about this. You've got these questions on the back.
Starting point is 00:35:17 I just want to read some of them. Some are from women and some are from men. And I think I want to talk about men first because you say these questions men have you ever asked yourself why does one woman not seem to be enough why does one woman not seem to be enough why can't I ever be satisfied and will I ever find peace these last three questions I feel like resonates with a lot of men. Yes. And I've asked myself those questions. I have too.
Starting point is 00:35:49 In previous relationships. And also being single at different times. And I'm curious, you know, why does it seem like a struggle for so many men to be okay with one relationship? Yeah. You know, I mean, listen, this is really good. Especially today. Totally. I mean, today is, like you said, it makes it even harder because, really because of just the popularity of social media. I mean, honestly, I would say that that's what's kind of amplified the challenge.
Starting point is 00:36:12 The challenge has always been there, but I think with social media, I mean, it really takes that challenge to another level for any man. And so one of the reasons why I wrote the book is to help articulate and hopefully answer some of these questions and so why I believe that it's really hard for one man to be comfortable sometimes with just one woman it comes down to me to what the book is really about which is love you know and I believe that love is selfless you know love is sacrificial and it's not it's not just love of self it's love of the woman in our life love of family love of our call and love of our destiny so as men we're never really taught to feed or cultivate love. What are we taught to feed or cultivate? Lust. Sex. Yeah. So to me, the two things at war within a man are love and lust. And I define lust as a selfish
Starting point is 00:36:57 impulse for personal, professional, financial, or sexual fulfillment by any means necessary, even if those means are detrimental. We live in a culture that almost feeds on the lust in men and also encourages us as men to feed on that. So what does that look like? With the media promoting just half-naked women everywhere. Everywhere. Everywhere. Sex everywhere. And it's okay. Boys will be boys, right?
Starting point is 00:37:20 Yeah, yeah. That's what you're supposed to do. You're supposed to date, you know, one. Don't even worry about one, have multiple. That's what we're taught as men growing up, that the more the better. So in a dating sense, what happens is if our appetite grows to such a place where we're not feeding the love, we're feeding the lust. What is lust? Lust is selfish. It wants what it wants, whenever it wants it, however it wants it. So as men, especially as single men, when you're in a situation where that's what you feed constantly, that's what's going to be the strongest. And so when it comes to a world where things are not on your terms, that almost feels like a foreign experience because you've cultivated
Starting point is 00:37:56 an appetite where the more women, the better. And guess what? If this woman doesn't suit my, what I want, I just get rid of her. I move on to the next. And so what happens is as men, we sometimes consciously and subconsciously allow that lust to run and potentially ruin our life. And so when a man decides, you know what, I want to get married, I want to get serious, I want to get committed, saying I do is not a magic wand. So if you go from having no discipline in your dating life no discipline in your sex life you've had as much as you could possibly stomach you've had as many women as you could possibly have and then you meet the one that really captures your heart she taps into the love inside but be prior to her and even sometimes with her you have not
Starting point is 00:38:39 practiced discipline as a man when you say I do there's nothing magical that happens on the other side of it so if you have an appetite and you have no discipline, marriage doesn't just automatically give discipline. So why does it become hard for men to just commit to one because they never had much practice with it? And I believe that if we date better, we marry better. If we marry better, we family better. If we family better, we parent better. If we parent better, we community better. So it all goes back to how we date and if there's no discipline there as a man we're setting ourselves up for a massive challenge it doesn't mean we cannot be successful we can't but sometimes as a man we think
Starting point is 00:39:15 why is one not enough because we've been conditioned to more and so the idea of just one becomes foreign. Drop the mic. Let's just end it right here. Let's end it right here. So how do you know what's the right way to date someone? Let me ask this question first. When you're in a relationship, and you say, you know what, I'm gonna be disciplined, I'm gonna work hard at this,
Starting point is 00:39:38 even when you know it's not the right fit, you've put in time, you know, six months, a year, two years, and you're like, you know what, I'm just gonna keep going and make it better I'm gonna try my best to to cultivate the love but for some reason that relationship you know deep down isn't the one and you say goodbye to that relationship is that you just saying well on to the next there's another option out there how do you know when it is the right one well that's a good question I think a couple things
Starting point is 00:40:03 one when you're in a situation, the one premise of the book as it relates to love is really we got to start telling the truth. And a lot of times, especially in a relationship sense, it becomes a place where we tell the least truth. You hide the truth.
Starting point is 00:40:16 You hide the truth. Because you don't want to hurt someone. You don't want to hurt someone. You may have feelings or thoughts. You may have things. And also, sometimes in a relationship, you can be afraid.
Starting point is 00:40:24 If I tell this person the truth, it doesn't mean that the truth that I'm not into them it could be like I'm really into you or it could be like here's some things I'm thinking about the question sometimes is where the fear comes in is judgment if I tell this person my truth will they judge me will they still like me will they still love me will they still you know be there for me and so a lot of times whether you're a man or a woman in a relationship, you bring that fear into it. And so as a result, sometimes that fear works against being truthful. So a lot of times in a relationship, you're more truthful with people outside the relationship than you are with the person in the relationship. Telling other people outside.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Everything is happening. Everything is, you know. And you're not telling your partner. And this is why, as men and women, we've got to start communicating with one another instead of at one another. And so I really wanted to write this book to help foster more truth so that the point you're bringing up if you're in a situation where you're with somebody you're not sure it's the right fit here is the number one way to begin to identify if it is operating in lust or if you're operating in love it's peace you know you're our peace you feel peace that's right our peace is the strongest
Starting point is 00:41:23 barometer it's our compass. It tells us we're going in the right direction. We're going with the right person in the right direction. Or you know what? I'm going in the right direction, but something about doesn't feel like this is the person that's supposed to go with me. Right? It's really about peace. That's where I can, and everyone has the opportunity to define what that means for them.
Starting point is 00:41:41 But to me, that's a great way to identify, is this the right person I'm dealing with? So then let's say, let's say you don't have peace. The truth is I need to tell that person as soon as possible. Here's what's, here's what I'm really going through. Here's why, especially as a man. Soon. No, don't wait. Don't wait six months. Why? Because here's what happens as a man. The moment you start to know, this ain't it. I don't, this ain't it. Here's what happens. The more you do not tell her the truth about how you're feeling, either she's going to cry now, she's going to cry later. And when she cries later, you've inflicted more pain.
Starting point is 00:42:22 I believe as a man, we're going to be one of two men, men that heal pain or inflict pain. And that truth, as hard as it may be, and as much as she may not want to hear it, it's better for her to hear it early on before she can have more emotional investment than to hear it later. And you knew six months ago you were out of there. Part of telling the truth is to say, listen, I love you. When I operate in love, I put someone else's needs over my needs. I'm thinking about someone else's thoughts even sometime before my thoughts. Someone else's well over my needs. I'm thinking about someone else's thoughts, even sometimes before my thoughts, someone else's wellbeing. So in a dating sense, as a man, you're like, Hey, I need you to know what I'm really feeling here. Um, so that we can just have an honest conversation. Like, I don't want to feel this way. I don't know why I'm feeling this way, but you know, I don't know if this is just the right fit and not, you know, and, and, and do your best to
Starting point is 00:43:00 articulate that it's better to put it all out on the table. Then, there you go, six months later, seven months later, something happens, and then sometimes, I've been there when I was single. You wait for something to happen, then to use that as the excuse. Yeah, of course. To say, oh, well, it's because this happened. Well, no, that's not because of that.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Because if there was really love, and there was a long-term plan there, you could work through that, right? But too often, I feel like as men, we hold on to what we think. And I think women do that, too, because they're afraid., I feel like as men, we hold on to what we think. And I think women do that too because they're afraid. So I think when you're going to this idea of like, okay, well, how do you date in love?
Starting point is 00:43:31 How do you date in mastery? It doesn't mean you can't explore. It doesn't mean you can't find the right fit. This is all about a journey. So love, when you're trying to find the compatibility, you're searching, right? We all find that journey. However, it's dating with more intent. It's dating with more intent.
Starting point is 00:43:44 So what does that look like? It looks like, you know, and again, this is just what I believe will help us as men, especially in a dating sense. Think beyond sex. Think beyond sex. How do you teach men to do that when that's all they've been conditioned to think? Well, here's how. Because again, instead of looking at that woman as an object for your pleasure, look at her as an individual. Look at her as someone's sister, someone's mother, someone's daughter, someone's friend.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Humanize her in your mind. It doesn't mean, listen, if you choose not to wait until marriage to have sex with that person, that's your business. But so often men look at women first as a sexual object, not as an individual. And as a result, when a woman most of the time says, hey, you know what, I don't want to have sex, you know, or I want to wait or whatever. A lot of men say, all right, well, I'm moving on to the next. If a woman does not want to have sex or share her body with you because she does not trust you, she does not know you, she does not love you, that's a sign of a great woman. Not a woman that should be discarded. And so as a man, when you're single and you're discarding women because they don't want to share their body, that's a warning sign
Starting point is 00:44:49 to me. Hey, that's right. What's going on with you, bro? Why are you on such a path for personal, selfish, lustful fulfillment that you are discarding potential women that could help make the difference in a positive way in your life? So for any man, it's about, hey, let me look in the mirror for a minute and just stop. Why? Because look at what's going on in the world. There's so much news about the challenges that men are facing. And why are so many men facing all these challenges? Because I believe most men have given themselves over to lust. They've given themselves over to this selfish fulfillment, where they want what they want, whenever they want it, however they want it, and as a result, they become the sum total of what that lust makes them.
Starting point is 00:45:29 So as a man, no man can turn a blind eye towards what's going on with men in the world. So if anything, allow what we're seeing in the world to then be a motivator for every individual man. Who do I want to be? Am I inadvertently living in a way where I may meet the same fate of some of the same men that I'm seeing in the world? Right? Because it's not like, oh, point the finger. Oh, look at them.
Starting point is 00:45:52 Oh, I would never become that. Wait a minute. The moment any of us as men say, oh, I would never. You might. Set the watch. Right? Because all of us have the same struggle. All of us struggle between love and lust.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Right? Because all of us have the same struggle. All of us struggle between love and lust. And the issue is getting control, getting discipline, getting mastery to the degree where I don't believe we can ever eradicate lust. I don't believe that. And that's a truth most women don't want to hear. Right? But I believe that is the truth. Lust is in every man, no matter who that man is, no matter what.
Starting point is 00:46:21 No matter how faithful you are. No matter how faithful. It's there. It's not even a reflection of the woman in his life at all. However, as men, when we learn to get control of it, when we learn to put love in control of lust, that's when we position ourselves to not allow that lust to destroy us. A couple of things I want to ask from this. Yeah. You are a successful man in Hollywood. You've been married for how long now? You are a successful man in Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:46:44 You've been married for how long now? Seven years. Seven years. Two-part question. The first part is, do you know any successful men in Hollywood who are not married and who have multiple partners? Do you see any of them that are successful in their career but also have that inner peace that you talked about a few minutes ago? I don't see many successful men that are living according to how you just outlined that have the peace. They might have the fun.
Starting point is 00:47:18 They have the fun. They have the money, the position. All of that. But I would not say that the men that fit the description that I've been privy have that peace, where there's just a sense of like, okay, you know what? I'm cool. I'm competent. I'm here. This is what it is.
Starting point is 00:47:32 A lot of times, and I believe that if any man is really honest with themselves, I don't believe the more women you have, the more peace you get. More chaos. More chaos. Think about it. It's like as a man, at the end of of our life when you think about how much time you spend You know with with women chasing women spending money on all those things you can ask yourself
Starting point is 00:47:50 What what do we have to show for it? Yeah, you know and so for me prior to getting married I had asked the same question I have to show for all this and I wasn't like when I Megan and I started dating that I was like all of a sudden ready to get married. I wasn't But what I did was a friend of mine encouraged me, don't be afraid. Don't allow your fear to mess this up. Afraid of what? Commitment?
Starting point is 00:48:10 Marriage? Marriage. All of it. Committed. The unknown. Because you were dating other girls before then. You were having fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:17 But I was dating with intention. I was dating saying, hey, yo, here's where I am in life. Here's what I'm looking to do. So that there was no lack of clarity with anyone that was dating me where I was. You know, and I talk about this in the book. It's so important. I'll talk about for the male side, the female side. For men, it's important because what happens is lust makes us a part time manipulator in a single sense. What does that mean? What does that mean? It means that you're dating multiple women. Those women don't really
Starting point is 00:48:45 know that there's as many other women as there are and they don't even know that you're not as serious as you seem to be when you're with them because your intention is for sexual desire sexual desire companionship in that moment whatever your pleasure long-term there's there's no long-term and at the same time there's no regard for their real feelings it's like this is a woman that I may date on Tuesday here's someone I may date on Thursday here's me there's one a woman I may date on Saturday night and none of them really know the other one exists so that's what I mean about not dating with
Starting point is 00:49:13 intention so when you're dating with intention you're letting everybody know listen here's where I am here's what I'm doing very very important as a man I encourage any single man to if you you really want to become successful in life, and success to me has nothing to do with what happens in the world. Success is to meet peace. The inner world. It's the inner world. Success is who is the person that looks back into the mirror? And there is where success starts and where it stops. We see a lot of men who have public success, but no personal success. And there used to be a time where that
Starting point is 00:49:45 was okay. But now real success starts with who's looking back in the mirror. So I would ask any man, if you are finding yourself dating multiple women for multiple women's sake, why? Just stop asking questions. Why are you doing it? And what is the real value that you're getting out of it? Do you find yourself with this insatiable appetite that no one person can ever quench? And as a result, there's no peace within your spirit. Super important. The second part of that is that if you find yourself saying, hey, you know what? I am going to get more disciplined here, but I still want to explore. Okay. Explore with intention. Let the woman know what your intentions are. So then they, as an adult, can make the decision if they want to engage with you.
Starting point is 00:50:24 And they, as an adult, can make the decision if they want to engage with you. That, to me, is what real honesty and transparency looks like. Now, for a woman, if you're dating a man, you've got to get out of the gray area. You've got to get out of the gray area. And what does this mean? That's right. But that gray area is the area where you are most liable. Because in a relationship sense, the one who has the knowledge, the most knowledge, has the most power.
Starting point is 00:50:49 And a lot of times, men have more power because they know what they're really serious about and what they're not, and the woman that they're dealing with does not know. That's a gray area. He may text you all the time, he may talk to you all the time, you may go out on a date, you may have met his parents, but never has he told you we're together. Right. Or he's thinking about the commitment. That's right. And so for a woman in that situation, she's in a gray area.
Starting point is 00:51:05 And I encourage her in the book, you've got to get out of the gray. You've got to ask clear, direct questions, wait for clear, direct answers, so that the man that you're dealing with, you get a sense of, are you dating anyone else? Are we committed? Are we exclusive? What are your plans? Where are you going? Don't be afraid to ask the questions.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Because so often when women come to me for advice, they're afraid. Well, what if I ask him these questions and he leaves? Well, he was going to leave anyway. That's good. That's great. Right. That's great. I mean, here's the thing. I've, I've dated women in the past who they're almost so honest in the beginning. It's like, oh my gosh, you're like pushing me away. Cause I'm like, this is not where I'm at in my life. Like you're talking about kids in the first five minutes. I'm like, I just want to have fun right now. But then there's other women who are that honest where you're like, wow, I'm actually really interested in you.
Starting point is 00:51:51 I'm, this is kind of scary that you're so honest, but I'm going to like keep exploring because I like you and I'm that interested in you and I want to learn more. Yeah, no, I think, I think the more honest you are in the beginning, maybe you don't have to say in five minutes, five minutes, I want to have five kids, but I think the more honest you are in the beginning, maybe you don't have to say in five minutes, I want to have five kids. But I think almost the more truthful you can be earlier on, the better. Because you can start to eliminate those people or know exactly where they're going to be at. Well, yeah, you get a better sense of what's what. And I also encourage women, you know, I say, listen, have an observation period in dating.
Starting point is 00:52:22 What's that mean? Meaning don't just rush into when you're dating somebody, telling this particular man all of the stuff you want. You don't even know if you're going to like this person. Right. And sometimes it's like, just on that, like you said, on that first date, they're like telling, oh, here's what I want to do, da-da-da. No, no, no, no. Chill. Observe.
Starting point is 00:52:39 Yeah. See if this man is even worthy of knowing what you think. See if this man is even worthy of knowing what you think. See if this man is even worthy of knowing your plans and how you see your future. How will you know if he's worthy of knowing? Because you're going to spend time. You're going to evaluate. You're going to see who he is.
Starting point is 00:53:02 And this is why, listen, I know in this modern world what I'm getting ready to say is just uncommon, but I don't care. I'm going to say it. This is why it's just uncommon but I don't care I'm gonna say this is why this is why it's so important as long I'd say in this book like I believe it's important to wait until marriage for sex but most people aren't gonna do that I say in this book at least wait until you're in a trusted committing loving relationship before you have sex why because when you have sex with someone and you do not know them and you do not trust them it becomes hard to really get clear on who they are and what they're about so important so as a woman i'm like listen if i was a woman and i was dating oh you ain't getting none from me why because i don't know you i was at i was at a
Starting point is 00:53:37 facebook um uh on the book tour and this woman asked me a question and during our q a and so i said this to her man and she said she was asking me a question about sex and whatnot and I said okay I said so let me just give you an analogy let me okay how many women in the audience after a month of dating a guy would you give him the code to your phone mmm the code your passcode yeah and most of them said oh no there's no way a month are you kidding me I said okay now, I'm not trying to get in your business. I'm not going to judge you. I said, but in that same period of time, in previous relationships,
Starting point is 00:54:10 how many of you in that same period of time have already given him your body? 90%. I mean, so if you don't trust him enough to give him the code to your phone, why would you give him your body? Wow. So this is when, you know, when you don't give a man your body, right, it gives you a better opportunity to observe and evaluate what does he really want? Is he even really interested potentially in who I am, what I think, or is he just interested
Starting point is 00:54:37 in what my body can give him? That's what I say about an observation period so that you can really see who this man is, what he's about, and really where he's going. And I believe that women have a lot more power in dating than they realize, but a lot of times they give it away. So much power. But they give it away. They give it away to men. You know, like, oh, yo. And it's like, no, no. Hold on to that power. Evaluate. Make decisions. Even if you want to be in a relationship super bad, don't allow your flesh and your desire to then make you so desperate that you lower your standard to the degree where you're allowing men entry into your life that really are not qualified for sex.
Starting point is 00:55:15 What if the woman just wants to have fun and they're not looking for a committed relationship either? You know what? Listen. I'm not going to judge what consenting adults want to do. If that's her point of view, that's her point of view. And that just is what it is. And at a certain point, when she's doing the same thing and wants a different result, it will require looking at what she's doing to get the result.
Starting point is 00:55:35 Same for any man. When any man gets to a place where he's like, you know, I keep doing the same thing, I get a different result, maybe I have to change what I'm doing. I might be having fun, but I feel soulless inside. I feel like I'm not having true intimacy or... Yeah, exactly. In this section, we have Dr. Shefali who breaks down how to make sure you're not in the wrong type of relationship and then dives into the conversations you should be having with a partner to know if it's going to last or not. And Dr. Shefali is all about breaking through old conventional ways of dating,
Starting point is 00:56:05 so I really think you'll enjoy this. If we're in need for love and worth, and we're constantly saying, do you see me? Do you love me? Do you know me? Do you validate me? Do I have permission to exist?
Starting point is 00:56:17 Then that is the fuel for all our behavior. So we can't see. We're hungry. When you're hungry, you know how cranky you are. You can't really think straight your brain is fogged up our brain is fogged up with unworthiness we can't see straight so the first thing we have to do is understand unworthiness is fueling it not real love that's a hard lesson oh man yes need not love i tell so many couples, you need her.
Starting point is 00:56:46 I don't know whether you love her yet. And they're like, yes, I do. When someone is feeling that in a relationship, they need to feel worthy by this person or they need to feel worthy in a relationship in general. Right. Or what does that look like? Well, there's love.
Starting point is 00:57:00 Because I know my pattern of stuff in previous relationships of uh feeling the need for someone to love me and accept me for who i was that's why we get into relationships right that's why we become parents and we don't want to acknowledge that it's coming from an inner hole h-o-l-e a void we don't want to own this about us right we're like no i love my child unconditionally that's why i want him to, you know, play soccer and ski. Do what I want him to do. Oh, it just happens to be all the things I want. Oh, this is why I'm in the relationship.
Starting point is 00:57:33 And the way we know that it's need and attachment and not love and unconditionality is how much we want to control them, how much we want to possess them. It's attached. All that smells of need and attachment because true transcendent love, true intimacy, very hard to achieve because it requires two whole people. Trusting fully. Who are in their own sovereignty, who don't need. Very rare. That kind of achievement, that kind of aspiration cannot occur unless you do the work and you heal. So most of us who haven't healed are in need and attachment, control-based relationships. Sorry, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:58:18 I'm sorry to everybody. How many people are in control-based relationships? Almost every relationship. Really? I know, yes. And every parenting relationship I know. Is it control, need, and attachment, and possession? What does it look like for most people?
Starting point is 00:58:31 What's the common ways of control and need and attachment in an intimate relationship? Okay, constant repetition of drama where the cycle just can't break. Yeah. You know, not a mutual honoring of each one's absolute freedom. The boundaries or freedoms. Yeah, and honoring each other and true articulation of one's needs. Who knows how to articulate their needs? Nobody.
Starting point is 00:58:54 And allow the other to be heard and seen and to be seen honestly and authentically. That's intimacy. So we think we're in intimate relationships, but we're just in functional transactional dynamics. What if someone's authentic about their need and their need is, well, I need you to, I don't know, check in with me multiple times throughout the day so I know where you are. That's not being authentic. Should I tell you how to? Isn't that an authentic need if someone's... No, this is the authentic need. Tell me.
Starting point is 00:59:25 Okay. So the person says, I authentically need you to check in with me 10,000 times a day. Right? Now here's the thing. That's not an authentic need. Here's the need. I have such low sense of worth and I'm in such a panic. I get panic attacks because I have control issues from my past abandonment.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Can you help me in some way by not feeding the need? I don't want you to call me 10,000 times because that'll just feed my monster. But can you help me and be kind with me? Because that's my need. My need is for ultimate supreme safety, but I know I can't have that. The need is from my childhood. That's what I'm talking about. I'm not saying I need you to give me 10 massages. That's not a need. The need is why do I have the need? Really getting to the core of the need. So it's not about communicating the need to the other partner. Everyone's good at doing that. It's about recognizing why is the need there. The real need. And when you find the root of the need, then you heal the need.
Starting point is 01:00:23 And you release the other person from meeting your need. Gosh. Right? So everyone's good about saying what they need, Louis. I need a Bentley. I need a mansion. Very good at doing that. We have to go to, why are we looking at the other person to fill that need, number one?
Starting point is 01:00:38 Where is this need really coming from? That's the real need. But won't, I mean, I don't want want to generalize this but won't you hear a lot of women say well i need to know i can trust my man that he he makes me feel safe he protects me that i know where he's at that he lets me check his phone that i can know where you know where when he's going somewhere or who he's seen like doesn't isn't that a common thing theme for women yes yes and what is that what happens when a woman does that? Right.
Starting point is 01:01:07 When the woman does that, it means she's completely an inner child believing that she needs those things from a man. She doesn't need that. Because if she has need for that, she's going to be dependent on his every move and looking at him like she's a detective be dependent on his every move and looking at him like she's a detective and he's under the microscope and that means she is enslaving herself to him and giving him her power when we want to control
Starting point is 01:01:35 the other we think we're getting control we are getting enslavement to the other oh my goodness what is the common the common fear insecurity that women have they're in a relationship and that men have when they're in relationships? Is it safety and protection? Can we just say that the way men and women are relating in relationships is based on conventional possession, control, and ownership. Both parties. ownership both parties already messed up okay now within the messed up matrix you want to ask what is the most common insecurities yeah what's the main insecurity for men in general is it i don't know that they're going to cheat on both is possession really both is controlled in some way really now you'll say but isn't there a real real need for one to find the money and the other to cook the food? Sure.
Starting point is 01:02:29 But, you know. What's the core need? What's the root need? Possession is what they're, control and possession? We've been told that relationships, especially marriage, means that the other one bethroths themselves to you. Like, gives themselves to you for keeping. Right? And you put the ring, like, you know. And you're keeping, right? And you put the ring like,
Starting point is 01:02:46 you know, in your mind and I own you and I own you and you give the woman a big diamond ring. So everyone around can see that she's owned. I have never won a ring one day of my life because I have no desire to let the world know I'm owned. So what about women who are like, you know what? I love my partner. I want to be their partner. I want to wear this to show a symbol of my commitment and the circle of trust. We do it on this finger. We do that finger.
Starting point is 01:03:17 It doesn't have to be a diamond. We follow convention because this is what society says. He didn't give you a diamond ring? Or the bigger the ring, the more the love, you know? We know it's convention. And in comparison, it's like, it's not, oh, Sally got a bigger ring, so maybe his... There are many symbols of love. It's funny that we all have the same symbol, right?
Starting point is 01:03:37 So it's not creative anymore. It's not spontaneous. Every relationship should have its own symbol. How come we all want the diamond ring as the symbol, right? Because it's convention. We're conditioned. We have to own how we've been conditioned for these things. The diamond industry is so happy with us.
Starting point is 01:03:54 They're super happy. Right. They're like, yeah, we really told them that these little pebbles mean something. And they all bought into it. And they all make their partners buy them. And if they don't buy it, it's a sort of betrayal. The industry is making whopping profit over our buying into this. Yeah, being brainwashed.
Starting point is 01:04:13 This is just one way we've been brainwashed. We've been brainwashed in every way because it's a consumer society. What should be three questions that say someone's starting to date someone. They're six months, three months in, six months in. Yes, I love it. And things are moving along. I have the questions. And you want to ask three questions to determine if this relationship has the chance of being, you know, powerful, growth-minded, acceptance, not controlling.
Starting point is 01:04:45 What would those three questions be? Well, you know, you first want to know how much inner work the person has done. You want to talk to that therapist. You want to see the appointments. You want to know how long they've been doing this. No, I'm just kidding. You'll get a sense of their consciousness quotient. That is number one.
Starting point is 01:05:02 Yes. You have to see how integrated is this person from their childhood to their adulthood. Have they worked on their wounds? Here's the challenge. Everyone shows the best version of themselves in the first year. It's such a force. And they act like they've done this in general, right? So how do you truly know when everyone's on their best behavior? So you don't move in? Don't move in.
Starting point is 01:05:23 You want to hang out with that guy or that girl? Go ahead. Yeah. You don't get so excited in that first year. You know that each one is trying to present the false self. So don't you know that? So don't give in for the first year. You know it takes time.
Starting point is 01:05:37 So you can't be jumping to the altar right away, right? Yeah. So number one is what is the consciousness quotient? And then I would, you know, I'm a little unconventional, so I will not find anyone probably, but it's because they'll fail my questions. So I would ask them about their beliefs, about, you know, all the stereotypical institutions.
Starting point is 01:05:59 And I have done so much work deconstructing cultural lies that I want to be with someone who has deconstructed the bullshit. So otherwise you're fighting against values, beliefs, ideas. Then it becomes a schism of basic values, you know. And the more work we do, you know, the more, you know, you deconstruct what the bullshit is, you can't be with someone who's bought into the bullshit. You're distancing more and more your beliefs. So I think consciousness quotient, which is healing from childhood and then the cultural BS radar, you know, how good is their
Starting point is 01:06:35 BS radar? And then the last thing would be, you know, just how present they are. Are they worthy of their own love? Are they whole? You know, that's all connected to the first two, but it then shows up in that person because they're present. They're radiant. They're joyous. They're liberated. You know, you can see liberated people because they don't need anything from you. Right. Because they're whole. They're not expecting anything. They don't need something to feel good. They don't judge you. They they are good and they're bursting with that yeah so you feel it that's true chemistry right you want to be attracted to the essence of the person not to their sports car or their bank account or the way they look right because that's
Starting point is 01:07:16 going to end that's transient consciousness lasts you're living with the person's consciousness you're living with the person's inner demons You're living with the person's inner demons. Because after the first two years, when the cars are old, you're living more, and you've done that. You've traveled the world, you've done, yeah. Now you're living with the inner child. You like the inner child. That's what we go like, whoa.
Starting point is 01:07:37 And your inner child comes out. So does your inner child know how to play with their inner child? And that's when you say the bubble bursts. But it's no one's fault. It's because we both presented with the bubble. So now we're in a... Don't fall in love until two years are up.
Starting point is 01:07:55 Then fall in love. What if people are like, this is amazing, this is exciting. It's not amazing. It's the illusion. Wait. I used to have a client who used to get so upset with me. She was like, before you burst my bubble, she always knew I'm going to burst her bubble. Because this is what the ego does.
Starting point is 01:08:11 It presents the best self. You think you're falling in love. Even the idea of falling in love, you don't want to fall. You should not be falling. You should be standing. Rise. Stand. You should be standing solid.
Starting point is 01:08:22 Yeah, exactly. So the fact that we fall is because we are falling for the illusion. And then we're upset in two years that another relationship didn't work out because it was the false self, the survivor, who was holding on. And after some time, the survivor stops or the ego breaks down, and now you see each other's raw self behind the prison wall, and you're both convicts looking for the other to rescue them. I call them twin beggars.
Starting point is 01:08:50 Give me, give me, give me, give me. You're not giving me enough. It's never going to be enough. Wow. Because we were beggars all along. We needed to only dare to enter a relationship after we've been full. Very hard to do, I know. So, we're gonna beg away.
Starting point is 01:09:06 How does a 23 year old get full after? She goes through the pain and the pain, like we all have gone through, heartache after heartache, blaming the other, crying to our girlfriends. He didn't do this, she didn't do that. And then everyone commiserates and go, yeah, he was really terrible. He was horrible.
Starting point is 01:09:23 He was horrible, leave him. What a terrible man. Bad man. Yeah. Bad girl. Right. Bad, good. Good, bad.
Starting point is 01:09:30 You know, we don't realize it's just inner child to inner child. Trauma to trauma. Beggar to beggar. What happens when two people who have truly healed their traumas, I mean, done the years of work, they're not expecting, they're not holding grudges, they're not resentful, they're not needing something. What happens when those two types of people get together? I think there's such a thing as a beautiful intimacy. I talk about intimacy where you truly can see the other person, but as their own being, and you don't need
Starting point is 01:10:03 anything from them. You don't need them to be a certain way. And they know and you know that it's a journey. So we walk together for some sunsets and maybe others we don't. And each is okay with that. We'll be sad if the other one walks away, but not devastated or broken. See, we sometimes think to be broken is to have really loved if they left similarly when our kids go off to school or college if we don't cry that means I didn't really love my kid we have this weird romance around crying a lot of pain or brokenness that means we really loved no love is freedom so we need to be happy for the other person when they go
Starting point is 01:10:47 to their other lover. That's big, right? But if you truly loved that other person, then how is it about you? It's what makes that person happy. Very hard, because culture has raised us with possession and monogamy as the main goal. So anyone who deviates from that is a freaking cheater. And we know what we call cheaters, you know? Yeah. It's interesting. I'm just listening to you and thinking about my life and my journey.
Starting point is 01:11:21 And I've always, I'm no way am I a perfect human being, but I've always wanted the best when relationships didn't work out. And a lot of them didn't work out well. Like there was arguing and frustration on both sides, me included. But then I was like, okay, we're not working out. And I've always wanted them, I like, I hope they find someone that's a better fit for them. I've never felt like the girls ever want me to be happy afterwards. He needs to go down. He did this to me. He ruined my life.
Starting point is 01:11:50 Yeah, it's like I've never felt like anyone ever wanted the best for me. But you can't blame us because we've been conditioned that when a relationship ends, it means the other's to blame and there's been a betrayal. It's their fault. Right, and betrayal. You know, we fully bought into this idea of betrayal. And I don't believe in betrayal. I believe we only betray ourselves.
Starting point is 01:12:09 Ooh. You know? What does that mean? What does that mean? It means that when we enter a relationship without understanding that we are going to be with the other person's inner child, Yes.
Starting point is 01:12:21 we betray ourselves. We want daddy or we want Prince Charming or we want Mr. Perfect or Miss Perfect. You can be in a same-sex relationship. And we put on the other the expectation that they will be there for us in the way we need. They'll be our savior, our hero, our knight or whatever. Right. Of course. We all want that. That's lovely. But that was the job of mommy, not another human being. Our parents are supposed to be there to help us grow. And they could barely do it.
Starting point is 01:12:48 Right. So how is this person going to do it? But we put on them this unconscious expectation and burden. When they don't fulfill it, instead of wishing them well and going, I get it. I'm an inner child too. I must have been really hard for you to deal with. Or we're both misaligned. You know, our inner children were just fighting in the sandbox.
Starting point is 01:13:07 I own my part. Thank you for showing me yours. It's not aligned. I get it. Yeah, we had a season of life. We learned something. Hopefully we move on. And you know, and say the guy cheated or the girl cheated.
Starting point is 01:13:17 We look at the cheating not as a personal betrayal, but as it's a message. Yeah, okay. We're not, he wasn't supposed to be with me that night. He felt like he needed to be somewhere else. He's following his soul, but she's like, oh, but he lied to me. Of course he lied to you because he knew you'd react like this. And now look, you're not broken up, right? No one ever says, where were you last night, honey? You can tell me and mean it, right? Every guy knows they don't mean it. The woman will kill you. We are raised in a conventional idea around men and women. It's changing now, you know, with all the gender fluidity and all the ownership of rights for all kinds of affiliations. We're changing the paradigm. But still at the core
Starting point is 01:14:05 is this paradigm that there's an ownership between the two. And that is the dysfunction. It's toxic. We all want to own everybody. We all wish that the world was our puppet. Of course. Why do we have that? Because it's a childish desire to have control. You know, I want you to say exactly what I want because then I'll feel competent and in control. Really? Yeah. And what does control,
Starting point is 01:14:29 what does needing control mean? We need to feel safe. Yes, yes. We need to feel protected. Child stuff. Just, I want to be secure. Mommy's going to come in
Starting point is 01:14:37 at every, you know, hour to check in on me. I want predictability. So the greater the kid or teenager didn't have predictability, they're going to go reactive.
Starting point is 01:14:49 Either they're going to silence that through an addiction or they're going to go into mass control, either through mass achievement or mass obsession of the other person. I feel like I've done all those things in my past. You've done mass achievement, mass control, mass possession.. Mass manipulation, anger, resentment, don't do this, control, all these things, especially in your 20s. Because you wanted to make sure you would not be that helpless little boy who didn't have predictability, but you didn't know you were doing it because of that. I had no idea. I was so unconscious. Yes, nobody knows. So unconscious
Starting point is 01:15:20 for so many years. It wasn't until I hit 30 when I started to really realize, oh, a lot of the trauma I haven't even talked about because I've been so shameful of. And just the process of talking about it allowed me to heal an element of certain things, but not everything. Yes. We have to talk to a trusted confidant or a therapist. You must talk because talking allows you to hear your own narrative. And then somebody or you can both go, oh my God, I said the same thing as my mother. Oh my goodness, at seven I felt this?
Starting point is 01:15:51 At 11 I felt this. You have to narrate your life. That's why it's called a narrative. Because you have to create a consistent narrative to integrate your life experiences. So people, poo-poo therapy perhaps, or think they don't have the time. Well, you know. I think it's some of the greatest time you can spend for yourself,
Starting point is 01:16:09 for your inner peace, for awareness, for greater levels of love for yourself and compassion for others. I don't think I'd be as compassionate understanding. And again, I'm not always compassionate understanding, but I don't think I would have the levels of intimacy and connection and love to myself or others without on and off therapy, coaching, workshops, emotional intelligence training, like all of it. In this part, we have Stefan Speaks, who shares how both men and women can learn to communicate and understand each other's thoughts and emotions better to continue to thrive in a relationship. What is the biggest problem that you see today that women face that are holding them back from staying in a healthy relationship? And what's the biggest problem that men are faced with and them being happy with their partner if they're in a relationship so i i always talk about healing and i do believe that healing is the number one biggest issue but i want to take a different angle
Starting point is 01:17:15 here i think that another huge issue that both men and women are facing from women's standpoint is really understanding that men are different in how we think, how we behave, how we're overall wired. And the same thing goes for women's, I mean, for men. So, essentially,
Starting point is 01:17:33 men lacking an understanding of the emotional state or the emotional side of women and not knowing how to tap into that or navigate through that. Whereas she also struggles with trying to navigate through his logical side
Starting point is 01:17:44 and how he goes about things and that disconnect because both sides are expecting navigate through that. Whereas she also struggles with trying to navigate through his logical side and how he goes about things and that disconnect because both sides are expecting the other to understand them where they are, all right. And they're not trying to understand the other person. And so, we get caught up in our own feelings our own perceptions of things
Starting point is 01:18:00 and that creates this huge fight this huge battle rather than really learning how the other side operates. This is going to be an oversimplified question, a response that you have, because each person is unique. But I want you to fill in the blank. If a woman understood X about a man, they would be happy in their relationship. The simplicity of a man, they would be happy. If a woman understood the simplicity of a man, they would be happy in their relationship. They
Starting point is 01:18:33 would have less stress. They would have less arguments. They would have less pain, suffering. What does it mean to be the simplicity of a man? So there's a few things. One, a lot of women overthink and overan, over analyzing their relationships. And so, a simple example I gave in one of my videos is like, let's say a guy says, she said, ask the man what do you want for your birthday? And he says listen, just let's just watch a movie together,
Starting point is 01:18:57 have some pizza, drink some liquor, I'm good. Have some sex, that's all I need for the night. And the woman thinks let me get him a wallet. He's like no, I didn't ask for that. Exactly, like it's so simple he's telling you exactly what he wants.
Starting point is 01:19:13 The words coming out of his mouth are it's what he means. The problem is so many women have been conditioned to dealing with liars and manipulators. Dealing with men who are playing games that when they are with a good man who's being forthcoming and honest they don't know how to take that.
Starting point is 01:19:27 And also because women are very... They're in the details, all right. So, they are going to see what you need they're going to analyze and say okay, I can get this for him. They're more thoughtful in their approach they go deeper which is why they become so frustrated with us
Starting point is 01:19:43 because we don't. When we don't understand that when they said I'm okay that they really weren't okay that bothers them. When they told us we don't want anything for Valentine's Day but they really wanted something
Starting point is 01:19:55 and we didn't get that that bothers them because it's like why aren't we looking deeper? Why aren't we learning them and being more in tune with them because that's how they are with us. And so and so again it's a disconnect of we operate very differently but if they would just understand we're very simple and the man who wants to be with you who wants to love you is being very plain and clear
Starting point is 01:20:16 if you would just honor and accept that it would make things so much easier and if a man knew X about a woman they would have a happy life I'm what's the right word it really goes back to understand that her emotions I'm trying to find the right way to phrase this but it's really understanding the emotional side of the woman and what I mean by that is again, if you're with a woman let's say you guys are walking down the street and she says I don't feel safe right now, all right. To a man we may analyze the area
Starting point is 01:20:54 and say well, there's nothing of danger here. What's your problem? You're crazy. No, don't do that. If she says I don't feel safe you have to understand that's how she feels. That's her emotion right now and her emotion is reality to her. She may not be able to explain it
Starting point is 01:21:08 it may be something within her, within her spirit, but as men we make a mistake of dismissing it because it doesn't line up with our logic. And now it's you're crazy, you're this, you're that rather than no. Try to understand she's feeling like this for a reason and even if we can't always explain it,
Starting point is 01:21:26 honor it. Now, the man's concern is well, now she can manipulate you and play you because even when it doesn't make any sense she can say I feel this way. But if you're with a good woman and she's been good to you in every other way why question that she's playing games now?
Starting point is 01:21:41 Give her the benefit of the doubt. So, I think if we would just learn to embrace what her emotions are at the moment we would be able to have more peace. Because again, a lot of fights come from you're trying to force your logic onto her she's trying to tell you how she feels right now. Right.
Starting point is 01:21:57 And it's like this, no, meet her where she's feeling right now. Acknowledge that, say okay, you know what, I understand it. Let's handle it from that perspective. Why is it so hard for, let's talk about men in this situation, to acknowledge someone's feelings when in the man's mind, you might be acting crazy. These feelings are irrational.
Starting point is 01:22:19 Why would I acknowledge irrational feelings when there's nothing to be afraid of in this moment? If that's what a man is feeling, how do they get out of that space and say, okay, this is irrational. In my mind, maybe this is seem crazy because I don't feel this personally. How does a man learn to connect on that level so that they feel safe in that moment, even if it is irrational? So three things. It's going to be awareness. Why did I just lose my train of thought for the second one? Awareness, yep.
Starting point is 01:22:49 Awareness, I'm missing the second one and then communication at times when things are not chaotic, all right. So, the problem is you can't be trying to have this full deep discussion at this... If you feel like she's being irrational, if you feel like this is not making any sense,
Starting point is 01:23:05 now you're trying to have this deeper discussion that maybe she's not ready to have at the moment, all right. She's feeling all over the place who knows what's triggering her right now. Wait till things are calm and now let's revisit what happened the other day. Don't fix it when it's not, when it's chaotic. Exactly, it's almost like you know,
Starting point is 01:23:21 sometimes a woman doesn't want you to fix it she wants you to listen and acknowledge how she feels. And so, we can talk about, we can revisit it at a different time, but in that time she needs you to embrace where she's at emotionally. What if the man is just like, it doesn't make sense. You're making no sense right now.
Starting point is 01:23:40 What you're saying is irrational, maybe it's illogical, it's crazy, none of it makes sense how do they wrap their heads around the madness of the emotion that is not real to them it really is a this is oh it's about practice so that was the second awareness practice practice communication so the practicing of it is to simply understand listen, it doesn't always have to make sense, all right. What does it hurt you in that moment
Starting point is 01:24:09 to just be more compassionate and considerate of how she's feeling? Yeah. Even if it doesn't line up with your logic right there, you know what I'm saying? And again, we can revisit this and use it as a moment to now learn more about each other.
Starting point is 01:24:23 But right now is not the time. So, the next... So, tomorrow three days later we can say hey, listen, you know that time when we were walking down the street and you were afraid nothing was around can we talk about that? Exactly, exactly. And now we can gain better understanding
Starting point is 01:24:36 because at that moment it may be easier for her to articulate it. But in the moment of her emotions running all over the place it's going to be hard for her to get it out clearly. Not because she's trying to be difficult it's just she emotions running all over the place it's going to be hard for her to get it out clearly. Not because she's trying to be difficult it's just she's falling all over the place it's just hard. It's like think about a child
Starting point is 01:24:52 and I'm not trying to reduce women to children but think about a child being in their frantic moment something happening to them and you're saying tell me what's wrong. They can't tell you they're... It's hard for them to say it. But once they're calmed down
Starting point is 01:25:06 and at a better place they can. Absolutely. So, we just have to be... We got to be patient as well. We got to be patient with each other and give grace. We're going to have moments where yeah, it may not make sense but again, overall if you're with a good woman
Starting point is 01:25:21 why act like she must be... She's being difficult or evil right now? Absolutely. You know? There's a lot of good women. Speaking of good women, there's a lot of good women out there that are friends of mine who are single. And they've been single for years.
Starting point is 01:25:34 I'm thinking of a few of them specifically in my mind. So I'm going to speak to these women's archetype because I think there's a lot of women like this out there. They've been single for, they haven't been in a, they've been dating, but they haven't been in a committed long-term relationship for a while. Good women. They make their own money. They're independent. They're kind. They're compassionate. They're loving. They've got their own vision, but they're struggling in finding the right guy who will commit. What do you think is missing from those women or is this a timing thing maybe it's like hey you've been trying this for eight ten
Starting point is 01:26:09 years and you haven't found someone maybe it's still timing maybe that they haven't showed up in your life yet but if they're going on dates they're doing these things and they still have been able to find a partner that feels like a good match the right match what's missing from them or is nothing missing it's hard to say because you know without knowing them individually the that feels like a good match, the right match. What's missing from them or is nothing missing? It's hard to say because, you know, without knowing them individually, the issues can vary.
Starting point is 01:26:32 You know, I'll tell you what I've seen as common barriers for women. One of the most common, and they may not like hearing this, but one of the most common is a lacking of being in touch with their feminine side. And that only really plays a huge role dependent on the type of man they desire. If they desire a very masculine man,
Starting point is 01:26:53 man who has his stuff together, a guy who can be a leader, at least has those qualities, then not being in your feminine is going to work against you. You're going to come across more difficult, you're not going to come across as someone that's peaceful.
Starting point is 01:27:06 And again, I think every man, every man who has stuff going on for himself can say what he needs almost most importantly or at least near the top is peace. Every man needs peace. Oh, man, I've been saying that my whole life. You know. Peace.
Starting point is 01:27:21 And so, if he does not view you in that way because again, you project more masculine energy, you project more resistance, more of a difficult nature, he's not going to... You could be the most beautiful, amazing woman, it's like... And he may want to sleep with you, but he's not going to want to take you serious or marry you.
Starting point is 01:27:38 So, that can be one problem. Another thing can be timing. You know, it's a lot of times is you... We have to understand everything doesn't happen tomorrow. There is a process to this. But in that timing what's important is that you don't drag on with the wrong men.
Starting point is 01:27:53 Yes. A lot of women reduce their time or reduce their window of opportunity staying with the wrong guys, staying, dating even the wrong guys. So, it doesn't have to be a committed relationship. It could just be you're dating and getting to know each other,
Starting point is 01:28:08 but you knew after a couple days that he wasn't it. And yet you're still letting it continue. And even though you're not fully committed in this relationship as an official boyfriend girlfriend, you're emotionally invested. And your ability to now be available to someone else is severely hindered.
Starting point is 01:28:27 So, you're not going to be able to meet that great guy or that great guy may come across you here that you're dating this guy and say I'm not even going to bother with that. Yeah. And so, that hurts you. So, timing is it but you have to make sure you're leaving yourself available. But you have to make sure you're leaving yourself available. Here's a question. Do we stay in relationships longer when we haven't fully healed the past? Hell yes. Absolutely. I'll probably raise my hand here for pretty much every past relationship where I have
Starting point is 01:29:00 known at different levels, like something's not right. Something's off. Okay, let's work on it. Let's try to make it work. Still things are off. It's like you have a knowing inside and sometimes you try to force it to make it work. And I'm as, as one to blame as anyone here. And what I realized is like, Oh, I haven't fully healed certain things. And it's why I've stayed in the past in relationships much longer than I probably should have. But I was afraid.
Starting point is 01:29:28 I was afraid of hurting someone. I was afraid of hurting myself. I was afraid of whatever. Yeah. And when I started to learn that, like, this is something you talked about over and over, that the healing process is the key process to build a foundation for the potential for a great relationship, for something to flourish. Yes. to build a foundation for the potential for a great relationship for something to flourish yes you want to have you know the dream is to have a rainforest of an environment in your relationship where things can grow things can flourish there's green trees around you there's water flow waterfalls not an
Starting point is 01:29:57 environment of a desert where things go to die in the relationship and I don't think we can truly allow things to grow if we don't learn to heal. And that's something that you taught me years ago. And you teach so many people around the world this. But if people don't even think they need to heal something, how do they do it? They can't. There's no way. You can't overcome an obstacle you don't believe exists.
Starting point is 01:30:23 Right. You know, I'm fine. I got this. Nah, I've dealt with this stuff in the past like that was me exactly and and so the problem is most people don't heal until they hit a wall until something you know knocks them on their behind and now they have to to see things differently and accept the issues that they've been holding on to um but also i think think the problem for a lot of individuals is they're not healed and they're in environments with people who haven't healed either.
Starting point is 01:30:51 And now those unhealed people are going to validate your issues. They're going to validate your unwillingness to face those things. This is so hard because whatever, guy friends, girlfriends, whoever you are, and you lean on people and say, this person did this and they validate you people and say, this person did this,
Starting point is 01:31:06 and they validate you and you say, leave them. They're no good for you. You deserve better. You don't deserve that. They shouldn't be doing this, right? They start to validate to be on your side, but they're not healed either if they're coming from that place.
Starting point is 01:31:20 Maybe they're correct on certain things, but it's learning how to communicate to your friends in a healthier way probably also well I think yes because a lot of people they tell their friends the bad and they don't always tell them the good yeah so the friends have a very skewed perception of the relationship or whatever situation that you're facing but we also have to be aware enough to understand who we're seeking guidance from. Like, I may speak to my friends because I need to vent at the moment
Starting point is 01:31:52 or I want some feedback, but I'm fully aware that they are not the end all be all to this that they may be speaking from their own hurt place. I still can filter their perspective through the understanding of they're not healed enough to give me full proper great guidance, all right.
Starting point is 01:32:12 But they might give a perspective that I needed to look at and that's why I will still talk to them. Because I want to hear different perspectives, I want to make sure I'm not missing any blind spots here, all right. So, it's good to talk to different people but only if you understand how to not just take them as oh well my friend said this so this is it no your friend may be broken too and they're gonna lead you down or even
Starting point is 01:32:33 more broken path exactly so the commerce that the conversations you have with some people they're not healed and they're not helping you fully because they're validating something that you don't need to hear necessarily. Absolutely. Maybe some of it is right but not all of it. And not to mention it can happen in other ways as far as like
Starting point is 01:32:53 I've seen people where the friend was in a toxic relationship that they were unwilling to leave. So, now when their other friend came to them about their toxic relationship is oh, you know know give them a chance. Oh, you know cheating happens in every relationship. They'll come up with all these validations to stay because
Starting point is 01:33:11 they can't look themselves in the mirror and tell themselves to walk away. So, how are they going to tell you to do it? All right. Now, some people can do that. Some people can still tell you opposite of what they're going to actually are willing to do.
Starting point is 01:33:23 But a lot of people consciously or subconsciously are trying to validate how they would handle things or how they have handled things, all right. So, if it's I would leave because someone called me out there on my name one time
Starting point is 01:33:39 then I have to tell you that you got to leave for that reason. I can't tell you to be considerate of well, maybe it was a mistake, maybe this can be fixed. Oh, no, no, no, because I drew that line you need leave for that reason. I can't tell you to be considerate of well, maybe it was a mistake, maybe this can be fixed. Oh, no, no, no, because I drew that line you need to draw that line. A lot of people don't understand
Starting point is 01:33:51 how to give that unbiased advice. So, that's why you have to be very careful. Absolutely. Going to friends and family. Healing is again, a lot of clarity comes through healing. You'll be able to see things differently in a relationship if you are from a healed place. I think a lot of us, myself included,
Starting point is 01:34:07 have stayed in relationships longer than necessary because we haven't healed something yet, and that's why we stayed in them. So would you say that people who have healed and addressed the past, the traumas of the past, the pains of the past, are much quicker to get out of a dating situation when they realize, oh, this isn't for me. I thought it was going to
Starting point is 01:34:30 work out, but I don't need to keep trying for months and years to try to make it work. It's not working. I'm willing to walk away. Would you say people healed are able to do that better? Absolutely. Basically, the more healed you become or when you have become healed, your willingness or ability to tolerate toxic energy is diminished. You don't know how to operate or how to stay in those environments any longer because now you see things so much clearer.
Starting point is 01:34:55 It's almost like if you were to detox your body and start to eat healthy now you go back to eating some fast food and it will destroy your stomach. So, your willingness to eat that bad food is no longer there or at least it's diminished because now your body knows
Starting point is 01:35:11 what healthy feels like, all right. So, emotionally once you get to a healthy place and you know what healthy is you can't tolerate dysfunction as much anymore. You can't tolerate someone who does not want to face their issues. You know it reminds me right now real quick of even when it comes to business
Starting point is 01:35:27 or you know what even when it comes to fitness. A lot of people once they've achieved great success or once they've achieved getting that body they always wanted they look at those who do not have differently. Before they may have been in that pool of people that said my circumstances there's nothing I can do it's too hard.
Starting point is 01:35:49 But once you've achieved it and you knew what work it took to get there now it's like no, you're just unwilling. You don't have enough desire to push past the obstacles to get the results you're looking for. And so, again, when you become healthy your willingness to tolerate this person
Starting point is 01:36:07 just can't get past their issues it's like no, because I got past mine. Right. I know what it takes, I know you can get there if you're willing, but so many are not willing. Let's say you're you got in a relationship, you got married,
Starting point is 01:36:21 you've been committed for a while and you, neither of you have healed. But then one of you decides, you know what? This isn't working. I've got to heal the pain from the past. They go on that journey. They get relief. They find peace in their heart.
Starting point is 01:36:36 They're not triggered. Whatever it is. They've started and have continually been on the healing process. But the other person continues to be in their own traumatic past experiences, what if they're not willing to heal? Would you recommend, like, is that relationship be able to work still? Are you able to find ways to say,
Starting point is 01:36:55 well, we still love each other and we have a lot of chemistry and connection most of the time? What would you say about that? If the other person's unwilling to heal? I hate to say this, but I have to be honest, all right? I can never encourage someone to remain in a toxic situation, all right?
Starting point is 01:37:17 I do think that we can take an approach that says, let's see if we can work this out. Let's give them a little bit of grace here. And the main thing is, can we achieve progress, all right. Rome isn't built in a day and if we've been behaving or we've been tolerating this dysfunction for so many years
Starting point is 01:37:33 we can't expect it to be perfect tomorrow. But are you willing to at least start to walk on that path and make progress? Though I don't want to encourage divorce I don't, I cannot feel comfortable telling people to stay trapped in a marriage with someone who doesn't want to face their issues. Right. If you have freed yourself from that
Starting point is 01:37:54 you have healed they've got to be willing to make a move. And here's the problem people are afraid to heal or people are afraid to face the issues that requires them to heal, all right. Because you have to... It's like I remember a quote
Starting point is 01:38:08 I'm probably saying it wrong. To heal you have to face the pain or you have to dive into the pain something like that, all right. So, people understand it's painful to go and revisit your past. It's painful to let those emotions you've suppressed all these years
Starting point is 01:38:21 come back out. And so now, your fear of healing or facing the process of healing is greater than your fear of losing this person, all right. And they think because you're married to them you're not going anywhere. They're stuck for life. Exactly. So, for that reason
Starting point is 01:38:37 that's not enough incentive to face their fear of facing their issues. The only thing that may get them to do it is the threat of divorce. Wow. Or is the actual divorce happening? Again, it's not that I wanted to get to that point
Starting point is 01:38:51 I'm hoping pray everyone can avoid that. But the reality is some people won't get it together until there's a real consequence on the table. And that will be divorce in that situation. So, okay, let's say someone's like you know what? I feel like I'm good, it's never been about me, it's been about everyone else.
Starting point is 01:39:12 It's their problems that why the relationship doesn't work out. Hold on, I got to stop you real quick. Yes. Because this is like hitting my spirit I got to say. Give it to me. The other thing to consider is that some people will never change, they will never heal. And the reality is that the person you're with
Starting point is 01:39:26 is the wrong person and the only reason you got with them is because you were broken. Had you not been damaged in the first place you may not be with this individual. Because you wouldn't have chose someone like this if you were coming from a healed place. Exactly, and if you were healed
Starting point is 01:39:42 you would have been your true self, your true self may not have aligned with this individual. Now, I'm not saying that there aren't circumstances where people still end up with the right person when they were both not healed. I do think that's possible to happen.
Starting point is 01:39:58 But a lot of people I would argue the majority when you... Because I always say if you're not healed you are 99% likely to choose the wrong person. So, I do still strongly believe that the majority of people are with the wrong individual and that's marriage, relationship, whatever. Because that brokenness, that damage...
Starting point is 01:40:17 Attracted something else that was broken. Exactly, and allowed you to tolerate it or it allowed you to feel safer in that environment. Here's the thing that people don't realize when you have not healed if you were to get with a healthy person it would essentially demand of you from the jump to basically heal or step your game up.
Starting point is 01:40:37 And again, people are afraid to face their issues. So, to get with another broken person subconsciously it validates me staying broken. It validates me not having to face my issues because now we all have issues. You see, as long as we all have issues, I don't have to face mine. But if you have corrected yours, how can I validate my own? Thank you so much for listening. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness. Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's show with all the important links. And also make sure to share this with a friend. Leave us a review
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