The School of Greatness - The Biggest Lies We Tell Ourselves In Relationships w/Marisa Peer EP 1228

Episode Date: February 14, 2022

Today’s guest Marisa Peer! She’s the creator of Rapid Transformational Therapy and is a Best-selling author, relationship therapist, hypnotherapist trainer, and motivational speaker.She has spent ...over 30 years working with people including royalty, rock stars, actors, Olympic athletes, CEOs and so many others. She’s written a new book called, Tell Yourself A Better Lie - Use the power of Rapid Transformational Therapy to edit your story and rewrite your life.This is actually the second interview I’ve done with Marisa recently, so if you haven’t listened to the first part about around reshaping your negative thoughts and beliefs, make sure to go to www.lewishowes.com/1213In this episode we discuss:The biggest lies we tell ourselves in relationships.What keeps most of us from finding lasting love.What needs to be aligned for a relationship to work.How to know if you’re with the right partner.And so much more! For more go to: www.lewishowes.com/1228Get Marisa's book: Tell Yourself A Better Lie - Use the power of Rapid Transformational Therapy to edit your story and rewrite your life.Mel Robbins: The “Secret” Mindset Habit to Building Confidence and Overcoming Scarcity: https://link.chtbl.com/970-podDr. Joe Dispenza on Healing the Body and Transforming the Mind: https://link.chtbl.com/826-podMaster Your Mind and Defy the Odds with David Goggins: https://link.chtbl.com/715-pod   

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is episode number 1,228 with Marissa Peer. Welcome to the School of Greatness. My name is Lewis Howes, a former pro athlete turned lifestyle entrepreneur. And each week we bring you an inspiring person or message to help you discover how to unlock your inner greatness. Thanks for spending some time with me today. Now let the class begin. Welcome back, my friend. Today's guest is Marissa Peer, and she is the creator of
Starting point is 00:00:31 Rapid Transformational Therapy. She's a bestselling author, relational therapist, hypnotherapist, trainer, and motivational speaker. She's spent over 30 years working with people including royalty, rock stars, actors, Olympic athletes, CEOs, and many others. She's written a new book called Tell Yourself a Better Lie. Use the power of rapid transformational therapy to edit your story and rewrite your life. It is a powerful book and I recommend you check it out. And this is actually the second interview I've done with Marissa recently. So if you haven't listened to the first part about reshaping your negative thoughts and beliefs, then make sure to go to lewishowes.com slash 1213. But in this episode, we discuss the
Starting point is 00:01:10 biggest lies we tell ourselves in relationships. What keeps most of us from finding lasting love? What needs to be aligned in your life for a relationship to work? How to know if you're with the right partner? And so much more. This is going to be powerful for so many of you. Whether you're in a relationship or not, I'm telling you, you're going to love this. And if you are enjoying it, make sure to share this with someone that you think would love this as well. Just copy and paste the link or you can post lewishouse.com slash 1228. Text some friends, post on social media, tag me and Marissa while you're listening.
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Starting point is 00:03:21 This podcast is sponsored by BetterHelp and School of Greatness listeners get 10% off their first month at betterhelp.com slash greatness. That's B-E-T-T-E-R-H-E-L-P dot com slash greatness. What was the biggest lie you told yourself in relationships until you found a healthy partnership? I'm not lovable, so I better work for love. I better pretend I'm amazing or always be at the gym or look a certain way so I can convince everyone that I'm lovable. But in convincing them, it didn't work because I could convince them, but I hadn't convinced myself. So I convinced someone else, I'm so great, but I didn't believe it, which made me act out.
Starting point is 00:04:12 And so that's really the oldest trick in the book. The lie is I am not worthy of love. One day you'll be disappointed. One day, if I don't always look amazing or be an amazing mom or keep an amazing house if i don't always earn enough money you might find someone better you know the bigger better deal and so that first lie i'm not lovable causes so many others i've got to work for love i've got to earn i've got to go through your phone every night to make sure i've got to keep saying are you sure you love me prove it I I don't think you're gonna leave me one day I mean it's the first
Starting point is 00:04:49 thought creates a catastrophic and waterfall of other thoughts and it becomes in the action yeah so if I don't think I'm lovable I'm gonna check your phone and go why are you looking at her I saw you you looking at him. You like them more than me. You forgot my birthday, therefore you don't love me. I've now got my confirmation bias, it's gone crazy. But it's all come from one thought. But that one thought has created a waterfall of so many other thoughts until it becomes out of control.
Starting point is 00:05:21 And so you've got to peel it back like an onion to the middle thought, I'm not lovable. And go, well, who told me that? And let's do that now. Who told me I'm not lovable? What did they know? What were they basing that on? Where did that come from? It's not even my belief, it's theirs. Is that true? Is that really true that you're not lovable? How could you possibly, have you asked every person in the whole world? You've asked a few people in your community and often they believed you were very lovable. They just didn't tell you for all kinds of reasons. I remember many, many, many years ago, I dated someone that I really loved and I left him and
Starting point is 00:06:04 he was in Washington, I was in L.A., and I called him and I asked him a question, do you miss me? He went, no, no, I don't miss you. And I thought, oh, he doesn't love me. Much later he said, I missed you so much, but I couldn't tell you because I was doing my law degree, and I thought if you knew, you'd come back,
Starting point is 00:06:19 and I needed you to stay over there because it was so important to be a lawyer. And that whole relationship fell apart because when he said i don't miss you i thought he didn't love me and i probably went off and found someone else and he said later that almost killed me when you did that but everything it's like when people i don't miss you i don't think about you i'm fine one of my clients said that he left his wife left him and he cried every day for six months, just would come in, switch off, sit on the sofa,
Starting point is 00:06:47 and crying after six months, he called her. And she said, well, I'm with someone else. You never even called me. He said, I couldn't call you because I was a mess. I just had to get myself together. But it's so weird that we don't tell people the truth or we say, I don't care. You know, that's like sticks and stones will break my bones,
Starting point is 00:07:09 but words will never hurt me. Words can destroy you and eat you up. So the lie is I'm not lovable, I'm not worthy, I don't deserve your love. Or here's another one, you'll get disappointed in me. If I show you who I really am, you might leave me. So now I've got to play this part. I've got to earn your love, work for your love.
Starting point is 00:07:31 What happens when we don't show our 100% authentic self as someone in the beginning, and we reveal that six, 12 months later? Yeah. What happens? They're really shocked. I didn't know you were like that. I had no idea because they've fallen in love with a version that you showed them that isn't even you.
Starting point is 00:07:51 And we forget the truth. Vulnerability is the basis of friendships and indeed relationships. When you're vulnerable, you know, people love you for you. When you're sick, when you have a bad day, they will say, then you know who your friends are. But if you pretend you're okay when you have a bad day they'll say then you know who your friends are but if you pretend you're okay i see that a lot with people who run a business always pretend everything's fine they never tell anyone they're lonely and then we realized like that great dj who killed himself was it avicii avicii yeah who who never told anyone i'm falling apart here was it not bon jovi who was it van halen eddie van halen there's so many people in the media who think i've got to pretend i'm great i can't say i'm lonely i'm sad i'm lost they often let you know through their songs look at prince i
Starting point is 00:08:42 mean that's so sad that he was so lonely yeah but they feel that if they tell us we'll see them as weak and needy when in fact the basis of friendship is if you're vulnerable and i am i like you because you're showing me who you really are and i can love your very soul because i know you but if I'm in love with an illusion, then it can't work because I don't even know who you are. Wow. How old were you when you started to realize that, that you were lovable? I think in my 20, a long time, maybe. I remember when I was 18, I had this really lovely boyfriend who would say, you know, I love the way you look. And I would say to my mom, I haven't got a personality. I really believed I had no personality because I love your hair, I love your body.
Starting point is 00:09:29 But I heard that I didn't have any character whatsoever, and that really bothered me. So I think, you know, it's so weird because when you change so much, you can hardly recognize the person you are. Looking back, I'd say really my 20s maybe mid maybe even later than my mid-20s it was only working with my clients over and over again and seeing what was wrong with them that I began to realize oh that's what's wrong with everyone yeah and I began to see all of my clients they could only ever have one of three things wrong with them what What's that? Well, the first one was I'm not enough.
Starting point is 00:10:06 That was the biggie. Every client I saw, whether they were a nursery school teacher or they worked in a store or they were a billionaire CEO or a movie star, they all had the same thing, I'm not enough. And so I've got to earn love or buy love or keep being a bigger better deal to get love and that's so easy to fix you just go you just take the I'm not out I am enough I always have been always will be and you have you see the
Starting point is 00:10:37 lie is every day you tell yourself I'm not enough you don't know you're doing it you get up go look at me I don't look right I didn it, you get up and go, look at me. I don't look right. I messed that up. I didn't leave enough time to get here. My kids aren't perfect. That client is annoyed. So every day, over and over again, you're telling yourself you're not enough. Yeah. And you just have to take out the knot and go, I am enough.
Starting point is 00:10:57 If I'm prepared to lie to myself every single day over and over again, why not have a better lie? I'm enough. It doesn't have to be true. People say, you know, my legs are the size of tree trunks. Well, clearly that can't be true. This is killing me. This is making me crazy. This is driving me insane.
Starting point is 00:11:17 None of these things are true. But if you're prepared to lie, at least have a better lie. I have great coping skills. This is a challenge, but I've got it. I can rest at the weekend. I've got this. I've got great, great, I have great coping skills is a great lie. Because if you say enough, it actually becomes true really fast. Something I say a lot, you're never given anything that you can't cope with. Or if I got a lot on, well, I'll rest at the weekend. I can deal with this. I've got this. This is fine. This is okay. So the first thing wrong with people is always I'm not enough. And if you feel like that, remember,
Starting point is 00:11:56 you weren't born with it. You're in great company. And just let it go because it's not true. The second thing wrong is this belief that I'm different so I can't connect. And that's kind of a modern-day illness. You know, if you're in a tribe, you would connect because you'd know that you're all interrelated, you look the same. But this belief I'm different so I can't connect is... Is it I can't connect or people don't understand me? No, you connect by being the same. You know, we're primitive people. We connect by being the same. can't connect is um is it i can't connect or or people don't understand me no it's when you
Starting point is 00:12:25 connect by being the same you know we're primitive people we connect by being the same so if you're different it's very hard to connect because you feel different and when you feel different you can't connect but then you have to remember the truth if that's your greatest fear it's most people's greatest fear so if you you look at ET, he connected to Elliot, but he couldn't connect and he had to go home because he had to be with his people. Why is that such a big fear for people? Of connecting. Yeah, I'm different, so I can't connect. Isn't different good in a lot of ways? Like being unique and being different? good in a lot of ways, like being unique and being different? Unique, well, the answer is yes and no.
Starting point is 00:13:06 When you're a little kid, you go, I like SpongeBob SquarePants, I like Green Pasta, I like Dr. Zeus, and we connect by being, I got a friend, and they like what I like. Gotcha. So when we're little, we connect by being the same. And our DNA understands that we are hardwired to find connection and avoid rejection
Starting point is 00:13:27 because that's how you make it as a child. You find connection, whether it's your little kitten clinging onto your leg, your dog wanting you not to leave the house, a baby holding on so tightly to mum, you understand the truth, if I'm connected, I will survive. And if I'm disconnected, I will die. Because, you know, imagine 100 years ago you couldn't produce milk for your baby
Starting point is 00:13:50 or 500 years ago. We understood that connection was what made us live. And disconnection killed us. That's why every culture practiced banishment or isolation or marooning or casting out. So connection makes us survive. Especially as adults? Yeah. Okay. So we need to feel connected. Yeah. And if you listen to all those
Starting point is 00:14:11 songs, I'll die if you leave me. My world is empty without you. I can't live with, I can't breathe without you. Okay. And to this day, you know, schools understand that someone trolls you, And to this day, you know, schools understand that someone trolls you, someone ostracizes you. Kids, you know, cut you out of the group. They don't speak to you. So our greatest fear is if I'm different, I can't connect. But if you go back to that, everyone's fear is being different. So if you have that fear, it actually means you're the same. And connection is a choice.
Starting point is 00:14:44 You can connect to anyone all over the world whatever their race religion creed is the problem is that we we don't see that we still disconnect people you know we saw that a lot with the boston bombers they were so disconnected from society that that turned into hatred and it's really important at schools to look at these disconnected kids and to bring them back. You know, if you look at the whole jail system in Finland, it's all about reconnect. We don't put people in isolation and then send them back out into the world crazy and full of anger. We reconnect.
Starting point is 00:15:18 And so our greatest fear as humans is to be disconnected. So how do we reconnect if we feel like our friend group has pushed us away, our family has sent us away? And how do we feel connected if we are? Well, sometimes you've got to find a new group. I mean, you know, your family are just what I call your original family. You can have an, you know, first of all, you have your nuclear family, mom, dad, brother, sister, auntie, uncle, grandma.
Starting point is 00:15:43 But then when you get married they become your extended family and so you can always create a family so don't go back to the old tribe that hurt you and expect them to get better I think a lot of our problems is I expect my mom suddenly to become wonderful she was always mean and hostile I expect her to be kind and lovely. She's got old now. Aren't old ladies sweet? No. Sometimes they're still cranky.
Starting point is 00:16:12 A bitter, cranky person doesn't become sweet when they're 80. And often the belief is I've got to go back to my family and make them love me when there's a whole world out there to love you. And if people hurt you, not always intending to, and you keep going back to them, but they can't always make it better. It's like, you know, if your family had that capacity to love you a cup, but my capacity is an Olympic swimming pool, I can't expect that to fill me up. I can fill them up.
Starting point is 00:16:39 They can't fill up me. If my parents have a shot glass capacity to give me love and i've got the ocean capacity how can a shot glass fill up the ocean yeah stop going back to people that hurt you and find there are people all over the world that will love you and fill you up but we keep going back to the hurt is expecting them to make it better right they're often so hurt they can't and they often do things like well you know people like us we don't have that and look at those people we're not like that so it's I feel different you know if your dad was the town drunk if you didn't have a dad and everyone else did if you had money and
Starting point is 00:17:18 everyone else didn't or vice versa we buy in very early to this I'm different I'm different and you're not different you you're the same. So you have to stop looking for what makes you different because that's the confirmation bias. Whatever you look for, you're going to find it. I mean, I was a principal's daughter. I felt different the day I went to school and my whole child because my dad was the headmaster.
Starting point is 00:17:42 And that was actually horrible. I realize now that was not a good thing. But I was always looking for what made me different. And then it became a self-fulfilling prophecy. I kept looking for it. Plus, you know, I could hypnotize people. And that made me feel even more different. And I had this kind of ability to work out
Starting point is 00:18:00 what was wrong with someone really quickly. And that's both good and bad. It's actually good. But whatever you look for, you will find. Whatever you are moving towards, you'll get more of. If you look for why your head is killing you, or say, I'm a bit dehydrated, I'm gonna drink some water, rub some lavender on my head, I'll be fine in 20 minutes.
Starting point is 00:18:21 You gotta decide where you're going. And if you look for what makes you different, you will find it over and over again. But if you say, well, why don't I look for what makes me the same? We're all the same somewhere. Then you'll find that too. And it can be very hard if you're dealing with someone
Starting point is 00:18:38 who's violent or aggressive or acting out. But if you can look for what makes you the same and not different, it really changes your life because then you can't be disconnected. And you can go all over the world. You can hang out with tribes. My friend was in Rwanda with the gorillas. And actually, if you think you're like them, I did this thing of walking with wolves. And the first thing you must do is you have to crouch down. You mustn't bare your teeth. You can't wear wool. And the wolf thing you must do is you have to crouch down. You mustn't bear your teeth You can't wear wool and the wolf comes up and what decides that you're a wolf and then you go for a walk and it Keeps rounding you back up if you walk away
Starting point is 00:19:11 Takes you back into the wolf pack because it thinks you're one of them and if you can make a wolf think you're one of them Or a gorilla right and of course you can do it with people but you have to start from I'm like you You're like me I'm the same as you and I can connect with you somewhere somehow yeah stop looking for makes you different to look for what makes you the same because it really is life-changing the third thing that's wrong is such a sad belief it's what I want isn't available I want love but I was abandoned when I was a baby I want isn't available. I want love, but I was abandoned when I was a baby. I want wealth, but I come from a family
Starting point is 00:19:49 that never had wealth, so I can't have that. I want health, my whole family are overweight diabetics, so that's not going to happen. And if you want it while believing it's not available, that will block you. And so you have to decide it is available, it's available with bells on, whatever you want is available.
Starting point is 00:20:10 But we have blocking thoughts and limiting beliefs that really get in the way, and you have to go back again to the thought and change it. I love that. So when we realize these three problems that we all have, or ask ourselves, do I believe I'm not enough? Do I believe I'm different and I'm not the same, you know, I have similarities as others.
Starting point is 00:20:30 And do I believe what I want isn't available? If we can flip that and make them all positive, I am enough, I have a lot of similarities as other people, I'm connected, and I believe what I want is available, then we can start taking different actions. Yeah, especially with love. The first thing is to go, you know, I'm enough. There's someone somewhere that will benefit from being in love with me.
Starting point is 00:20:53 And I'll benefit from being in love with them. So look at what you've got to give. There's that kindness, the warmth. Because all people want is someone to get up with, go home to, that's warm and kind. So if you want love, you have to believe you're worthy of it, you're enough. Then you have to believe that you can connect with anyone because love isn't about, you know, often the people we fall in love with are nothing like us. I'm tidy, my husband's messy.
Starting point is 00:21:17 You might say I'm logical, my husband's emotional, I'm calm. They're like a Porsche, they go from nought to fifth gear in a nanosecond. But you have to also keep looking back to what have you got in common. Do you dream the same dream? Do you like the same things? I'm the same, so I can connect. And love is available to me. Love is available to everybody.
Starting point is 00:21:43 We find love in the strangest places. But we look for it in the strangest places, too. But love's available to everybody. You know, we find love in the strangest places, but we look for it in the strangest places too, but love's available to everybody. What do you think keeps us from finding and creating lasting love then? The greatest problem in finding and creating lasting love is the
Starting point is 00:21:57 obvious one, I'm not worth it. And the biggest problem is people stay with the wrong person, because they fear they won't ever get any better, well, it's not really working. I invested 10 years, might as well invest another 10. It's having such low expectations that will settle for anyone.
Starting point is 00:22:14 And the fear of being alone makes us hook up with the wrong person. But being alone, it's better to say, no, I'd rather be alone for the rest of my life than be with the wrong person. If I decide, and I did that, I was in Africa, I was in Zimbabwe, and I was staying in this honeymoon suite, and I was thinking, oh, that's so sad. I said, oh, I'm having a great time.
Starting point is 00:22:33 I love it in here. I've got a bath, a shower. It's so romantic. And I remember thinking, you know, if this is as good as it gets, it's okay. When I decided if I'm alone for the rest of my life, it's okay. I've got people I love. And I had a lot of love. And then the minute I made that decision, I was married 10 months later. I hadn't even met my husband then. Is that like an internal switch where you're just like, I'm lovable no matter what, but I'm not going to settle? No, I'm not going to settle.
Starting point is 00:23:00 And I'm very happy. And last year when I was in lockdown, someone bought these seven feral cats that lived in my garage. And I got so much love from those cats. I was thinking, wow, when I'm 95, it's okay. I'm going to have loads and loads of little wild cats and convert them. And that's the same thing with the cats. I would pick them up and go,
Starting point is 00:23:17 I'm going to make this familiar. Every day I'd hold them for a minute and then two and then three. And I put their cat food in my hand and I was thinking, you know, we're making, being touched familiar. And after after a while they just got so used to it because you have to make what's unfamiliar being held familiar and I think it's always good to say you know there's all kinds of love I can have love of animals people maybe my church friends who know
Starting point is 00:23:41 there's always someone you can connect to but you've got to look for connection not disconnection when you get to that level of wow there's a lot of love in the world yeah of course you can find love and keep it forever but you have to believe you're worth it and you have to believe it's available because love is everywhere it's all around you but you've decided it's not for you nature's not going to let you have it. And there's never one person. I don't like that expression, twin flame or trauma bonding,
Starting point is 00:24:13 because I think it sends you in the wrong direction. There's only one person. And trauma doesn't bond. Many people say, you know, we lost our child. It was so traumatic we broke up. Or our kid was sick and we broke up. Or, you know, I got attacked or the house got burbled and the trauma ended the relationship so the belief that trauma bonds you together
Starting point is 00:24:32 forever I'm not sure that's a good idea I think it might work for some people right but you just have to think a better belief just decide I'm lovable you You know, my gran used to say, every pan has its lid. So you're someone's lid and someone is your pan. You're someone's fantasy dream come true. Someone will find you deeply lovable just the way you are. But you can't make them believe it if you don't believe it. You can't make someone believe you're worthy of love if you think, I'm really worthy of love.
Starting point is 00:25:04 One day you're going to be disappointed. When you know you're worth it, everyone else will know it too. So we do the wrong things to get love. We try to work on our body, our education, our home. We go to the gym. We try to have stuff snipped off or injected in or waxed off. We're so busy adding stuff and getting rid of stuff to find love. What should we be doing instead?
Starting point is 00:25:28 Telling ourselves we're lovable. The only thing you ever need to do to find love is only one thing. Convince yourself you're worthy of it. Because a conviction is a conviction. I'm now convinced. It's not a fleeting thought. It's an absolute conviction. And convictions come over time. So tell yourself that I am lovable and I'm worthy of until it is an unshakable belief.
Starting point is 00:25:55 What if we're out of integrity with our conviction? Like I'm lovable, but we eat poor foods consistently. We're alcoholic. We don't sleep well. We're going on bad dates and letting people abuse us. So how much of the actions and being in integrity with our word to ourself is necessary as well? So you're starting from I'm lovable. And I'm going to go on dates. And I want this person to say I'm lovable and I'm going to go on dates and I want this person to say I'm lovable but if you're eating burgers and fries and staying up all night and turning up with chipped nail
Starting point is 00:26:30 varnish and dirty hair and a stained t-shirt you're not really saying I'm lovable you're not really saying I'm a catch you know some guy turned out with a beer all over his t-shirt and an egg in his beard you wouldn't think oh he's a catch any more than a guy would think you've turned up in dirty old leggings with chipped nail varnish. So when it, again, that's abusive behavior. If you want someone to believe you're lovable, you have to believe you're lovable. First you believe it, then you start to act in a way
Starting point is 00:27:01 that says, yeah, if I'm lovable, I should take myself to bed now. I don't really need to watch any more episodes of Catherine the Great tonight. I can do it over the weekend. I don't need eight slices of pizza. I can have one. So it goes back into the message you're sending out.
Starting point is 00:27:18 When you know you're lovable, when you resonate it, you act in a different way. You know other people, please. You help, you're nice. You wouldn't go, well, I have what you're having, I do what you want, I don't care, I'll go wherever you want to go. You have an opinion and you'll say, oh no, that's not my thing, I don't really like that, I don't want to do that, I'm not going to drive for three hours to see you. If you're not prepared to meet me halfway, then it's not a good place to start. If I've got to pay the bill all the see you if you're not prepared to meet me halfway then it's not a good
Starting point is 00:27:45 place to start if i've got to pay the bill all the time if you never do you never ask me how is the conversation going back and forth is someone listening to you are they transmitting or receiving some people just transmit they go like a hairdryer they go go, and the whole day is them talking to you and they never ask you how you are. And that's not respectful. Respectful is saying, oh, you keep interrupting me. You're not asking me anything about me. I've been on a date. There's only one thing about me
Starting point is 00:28:16 and I realised I don't need to put myself through that. And if you have enough respect, you'll say, you know, we've been talking for an hour. This is actually not a match. I wish you great success in finding love, but you're not for me and i'm not for you and you have that sense that rather than dragging out another six hours just being nice i don't i deserve better and you know again it comes back to your needs and in the beginning when i was all my clients have what i call unmet needs they They come in and they go, I wasn't loved,
Starting point is 00:28:45 I wasn't nurtured, I wasn't praised, I wasn't supported, I didn't feel safe. And when a child has an unmet need, and a baby's need is very simple, the children need to feel safe, secure, loved, connected, significant. And as we get, but we need all of those, we also need you to feel proud of us,
Starting point is 00:29:04 and we need to feel interesting and worthy. And if our needs aren well, we need all of those. We also need you to feel proud of us. And we need to feel interesting and worthy. And if our needs aren't met at an early age, we give up the need or we give it away. And you see that in relationships so much. I've given up the need that you care about me, but I'll care about you. Or I'm giving it away. It's your job now. You're going to have to make me feel attractive, interesting, sexy, worth being with. So I'm giving it away, it's your job now. You're going to have to make me feel attractive, interesting, sexy, worth being with. So I'm giving my need to you. That's a lot of work.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Yeah, a huge work. Because now you're still needy, but someone else's job is to meet your needs. And they can do it very well for a while, but then they get bored. They have their own needs. So if you give the need up, no one's going to love me. I expect all relationships to always get ghosted. I if you give the need up, no one's going to love me. I expect all relationships to always get ghosted.
Starting point is 00:29:48 I've now given the need up. I've got my cats. I've got my Ben and Jerry's in the freezer. My Netflix, yeah. And I'm just not going to even bother. I just know it's not going to work. I've even stopped dating. So I've given the need up.
Starting point is 00:30:01 I've even given the need up to have a great job, and I'm living a life that's not very satisfying, but I even given the need up to have a great job and I'm living a life that's not very satisfying, but I've given the need up. Or I've given it away. Someone out there is going to have to turn up and meet my need. I need to feel the same thing. Significant, connected, loved, safer. You've got to do that for me.
Starting point is 00:30:20 But there's a third way, which is meet the need yourself. As weird as that sounds sounds if I need to feel safe my husband's out of town I go hey how can I feel safe you've left town I lock the doors have a little alarm thing that I never use but when he's out of town I know where it is in the bedroom you know one of my clients said well my husband goes away I have to go and stay with my mother of 85 to feel safe I'm like like, what's she going to do? She's 85 years old. How can that be that you've given your need to be safe to someone of 85?
Starting point is 00:30:52 Every time your husband leaves town, you take your kids to your 85-year-old mother. So she's given the need away. But the idea is, okay, I've got a phone. I've got an alarm. I've got a great system I know got an alarm, I've got a great system, I know, all just to believe you're safe. So if you look right now at your unmet needs, they're always gonna be the same.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Connected, safe, secure, significant, valid, worthwhile. You need someone to be proud of me. I need to feel I matter. And it may sound kind of weird to go, okay, I'm gonna do it. I matter. I'm significant. I'm secure within myself. I'm proud of who I am. If you decide to meet your unmet needs,
Starting point is 00:31:33 you feel so complete that then you'll meet other people who can also meet them. But it's the opposite of needy and that's if I'm in a relationship where it's like, okay, I've got a list here and someone's going to have to tick all these boxes and the second thing with needs is when you find someone to have a relationship with you've got to
Starting point is 00:31:51 put your needs in three piles so and I use who these cut yes so you have to say okay this need is non-negotiable gonna have to meet that need I need to always know where you are to in the morning I need to know where you are. I need you to call me. I need you to be home in time for dinner. I need you to put your underpants in the laundry basket. That is a need I'm not prepared to sacrifice. That's okay.
Starting point is 00:32:15 But then you might go, you know what? I can put the underpants in the laundry basket. Is it really worth all the arguments? So the second you think, you know what? I can meet this need. I need a clean tidy house my husband doesn't even see mess but I'm just going to do it myself or maybe we can get someone to come in but the second need you meet it and the third need just give it up it's someone says
Starting point is 00:32:36 it's just not worth it so if I said I need my husband make a huge deal about my birthday hey this is a need birthday is a huge I want a gift i want it wrapped i want ribbons i can say me that i can say you know what i can find myself a great gift i can do that myself if it's not that important or i can go is it really important i've got every do i need all these gifts actually it doesn't matter which one it is but no one can meet all your needs you've got to have that need is non-negotiable that need i can meet it and that need i'm going to give it up so my daughter is an artist and i realized immediately the need for tidiness there's just no way because people who are messy don't see mess they can't meet you go yes i'm so they don't see it so i couldn't say to
Starting point is 00:33:21 her hey you need a tidy room all the time right I couldn't I could go in and tidy her room every single day but you know I just learned to shut the door I gave up that need and it made our family so much happier because she lives in chaos and I don't and she's a painter mm-hmm and one day when I stapled plastic all over her walls and her carpet and that was ever that was great I never worried about it again. So look at your needs, put them in three piles. I have to have that need met.
Starting point is 00:33:49 That's okay. And I'm going to meet that need, and I'm giving that one up. And allow your partner, too, to realize that they can't meet all of your needs. You can't meet all of those. And some needs just aren't important enough. Right, right. And others are very important. Depends what they are. all of those and some needs just aren't important enough right right and others are very important depends what they are what do you think is more important in
Starting point is 00:34:11 the relationship to make sure your values are in alignment to make sure your shared vision is an alignment or your lifestyle the way you want to live your life like one wants to travel more and the other one stay home I think lifestyle you know is most the thing people fight about more than anything is money with even people with lots of money the number one thing we fight about is money and the second is chores even if they have a housekeeper really yeah so that must tell you that lifestyle is everything you see you don't have to have the same values. You know, you could be of a different religion. You could be Muslim, I could be Hindu, and we can actually get on.
Starting point is 00:34:48 We could come from a different culture and we can work that out. I come from a family where everybody was divorced, and my husband doesn't, but we get on really well. So I think values are nice, but that's, you know, we've got to have exactly the same values. We don't always have the same values. Some people value things more.
Starting point is 00:35:09 I mean, some of the things my husband likes to watch on television, I find them, and he hates all my, oh, that's a chick thing. I was trying to, what was it? I was watching the new episode of Sex and the City. He's like, oh, I hate this. I actually didn't love it either. So no, I've got to watch it. I'm invested in it now. So sometimes he'll go and do something else.
Starting point is 00:35:28 It's like if you're with someone who loves sport and you don't, you don't have to love sport. My husband loves cooking. He's always cooking. I don't really love that. I don't mind, but it's all the shopping and then the chopping and then the cooking and the cleaning. I'm like, let's just grill some fish that he likes. But we don't have the same thing because I don't value cooking at all the way he does. But lifestyle, if you're up all night and your partner goes to bed early, if you're an outdoor person, you love to travel, they love to stay home, you love family and they don't.
Starting point is 00:36:05 I think lifestyle is, you're gonna spend the rest of your life with one person. So I think you should look, I mean, so many issues about our kids are going to private school. No, they're not. I believe in punishment. I don't believe in that. It makes a very unhappy home.
Starting point is 00:36:20 So lifestyle is important. Values are important too. And goals and dreams are important. But you can have different goals. Like my husband has no desire to write best-selling books. But imagine if he did. We'd be competing. But when I'm writing, he cooks me lovely food.
Starting point is 00:36:38 He brings me tea and coffee. He knows I have to be left alone because I'm in a writing mode. So we're not the same because he has no interest. He tried once to write a book. He absolutely hated it. He threw the whole thing away. But I couldn't do what he does. So are our values the same?
Starting point is 00:36:53 Yeah. Are our goals and dreams the same? No. But is our lifestyle the same? Yeah, we like the same thing. Yeah. We tend to go to bed together, get up together. We like to travel to the same thing. Yeah. We tend to go to bed together, get up together. We like to travel to the same places.
Starting point is 00:37:07 You know, if I was with someone who wanted to go out all night until 2 a.m. It'd be hard. That would be really hard because if I was with someone who wanted to bring people home every night and have a party, that wouldn't work. So I think we really forget that having the same lifestyle is really important because that's what people fight about the most. I got a couple final questions here. What do you think we should feel
Starting point is 00:37:34 when we start dating someone and we've been dating them for a while? What do you think we need to think or feel or know internally that we can move forward towards a commitment? Your feelings are the most real thing you have. And I move forward towards a commitment your feelings are the most real thing you have and i always think you should feel your feelings until they no longer require to be felt i say you know i met this person i didn't really like them but oh my god the sex was amazing so i overlooked all these things i met this person who was mean, rude to waiters, dismissive,
Starting point is 00:38:05 rude to my family, but they were just so compelling and so gorgeous and so out of my league that I tolerated it. Tune into your feelings. They will tell you very quickly, you know, our gut, our gut is our gut instinct. Our gut is the second brain. If someone doesn't seem nice and doesn't seem kind
Starting point is 00:38:27 and is treating you badly, why stay? Why wait for that to get better? If you feel that they're not really a nice person, then why hang around? If you notice behavior that's a red flag, they always forget their credit card. They seem to diminish it. We'll say, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:51 I don't know how I ended up with a narcissist. But often we do. We go, yeah, I just, I overlooked that. There was something else that was more compelling. They were so good looking or so nice or they were very generous. They took me to great places. And I overlooked the fact that either they were annoying or mean or even boring. I just thought, I'll stick this out. You know, your feelings are the most real thing you have. And you've got to feel your feelings until you get the message, and then they go away. And often we just ignore feelings. Can your feelings ever lie to you?
Starting point is 00:39:20 No, I don't think so. I met many people who said on my wedding day, and one of my friends said, I knew I was marrying the wrong person on my wedding day. I waited for my wife to come there and I knew I was making a mistake, but I couldn't let people down. You know, Charles and Diana both tried to call off their wedding.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Both of them knew it was wrong, but they felt, well, we've got to go ahead with it. If your feelings are saying no that early, then at least go, hey, there's no rush to get married. There's no rush to move in. There's no rush. I mean, there maybe is a rush to have children. But more problems occur from picking the wrong person or staying with the wrong person because you're not tuning into your feelings.
Starting point is 00:40:06 When you tune into your feelings, you know because the feeling is I feel a feeling of rightness with this person I love waking up to this person I love coming home to this person even on my worst day when they annoy me I imagine my life without and think oh no my life's so much better with them yeah so I don't think your feelings can ever lie because they come from the gut, which is the seat of your emotion. I think we lie to ourselves, but our feelings don't lie. And you know, in the 10 people in that book, every single one of them had lied to themselves that there's a girl in there who wanted to kill herself,
Starting point is 00:40:40 and her lie was, I've got to be good. I need to be good. And I said, but being good makes you want to die. She want to die because I know I said I think it's time to stop being good you know I'm going straight to Victoria's Secret now I said yeah I think you need to be bad you need to be naughty if being good makes you want to die what's the point and then the girl in there with OCD and OCD is nothing more than I can't control what's going on in here but all the cups are going to be just right and everything now I can control out there because I can't control in here
Starting point is 00:41:12 and for her it was just a question of look control in here look at the thoughts and change them and so many of us are so busy not really feeling what we feel. We think we can Netflix our feelings or Krispy Kreme donut our feelings or nice bottle of wine our feelings or even Amazon or eBay our feelings, but you can't, you have to feel your feelings. They're the most real thing you have. When you feel your feelings, go, what am I feeling?
Starting point is 00:41:42 I don't know, but I'm not gonna eat it or drink it or shop it, I'm not going to eat it or drink it or shop it. I'm going to sit with it. Until it no longer needs to be stopped. Yeah. And then it goes away and it goes away really quickly and it stops coming back. Yeah. This is powerful stuff. We'll have to do another, we'll have to do a whole another episode on relationships another time. But this book is going to help a lot of people. Tell yourself about a lie. Use the power of rapid transformational therapy to edit your story and rewrite your life by Marissa Peer.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Make sure you guys get a few copies of this. It's going to be really inspiring, some incredible stories that there'll be at least one or two examples in here that'll resonate with you and your friends, I guarantee it, and will be helpful action steps on how to overcome these different challenges.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Can I just add one thing? Yeah. There's one chapter in there, it's called RTT for Me, action steps on how to overcome these different challenges. Can I just add one thing? One chapter in this is called RTT for Me, and as it shows you what I do with each person, here's Ryan's story, here's Tara's story, it shows you what, and at the end it shows you, look, it's not that you don't need therapy,
Starting point is 00:42:38 but there are certain things you can do, certain things you can do yourself, like upgrading the child. Great part of what I do with clients, but it shows you in the RTT, what you can do at home. Upgrading the child, your inner child? Yeah, upgrading the child, dialoguing with a herter, praise you've always wanted the missing bit of you, and installing the cheerleader. They're not a replacement for therapy, but you may not need therapy.
Starting point is 00:43:03 You just may need to fix a few little things, like the lie you're telling yourself. Yes, I love this. You've got an amazing YouTube channel, Marisa Peer, podcast, social media, Marisa Peer everywhere. Where else can we go to support you and learn more about what you're up to? I'm on Instagram, I'm on YouTube,
Starting point is 00:43:23 but if you go to marisapeer.com, we have a ton of free audios. We have audios on love blocks, money blocks, success blocks. We don't ask for a credit card. They're all free. So marisapier.com will give you a lot of free resources. RTT.com is should you want to do what I do because we've now trained 13,000 people in RTT. It's amazing. In fact, a lot of their stories are in there too. If you want to find someone to do RTT and already train in it, go to rtt.com.
Starting point is 00:43:51 If you want to get all these I'm Enough bracelets and join the I'm Enough movement, go to imenough.com. I love it. They're all my websites. I think a lot of people have signed up to be in the RTT, the therapy community from our interviews. A lot of people have messaged me, said I signed up for be in the RTT, the therapy community from our interviews. A lot of people have messaged me and said I signed up for the course and the workshop
Starting point is 00:44:09 and they say amazing things. So I highly recommend it. Check out marisapierre.com for more. Marissa, you're always an inspiration. I'm so glad we get to, I'm so glad we're friends. I'm so glad I get to connect with you. And I learn so much every time I have you on. So I'm excited to do more in the future. And I just appreciate you for constantly showing up. You're
Starting point is 00:44:29 an amazing gift to the world. Thank you. And I did forget to say, if anyone wants to have that program for their children, the cheerleader for children, write to me because we give that away. We're giving that to schools all over the world now. Okay. Is that online somewhere or are they just... If you just go to marisapier.com and say you want the I can't or I can challenge for schools, we send it, but we also send it
Starting point is 00:44:52 to the scouts and anyone who's working with children. Okay. It isn't just for schools. Awesome. If you've got lots of kids, you can have it in your house
Starting point is 00:44:59 or even one. Amazing. Marisa, you're a gift. I appreciate it. Thanks so much for being here. Oh, thank you. It's been such fun. Thank you. Thank you. Thank thanks so much for being here it's been such fun thank you thank you thank you so much for listening I hope you enjoyed today's episode
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