The School of Greatness - The One Truth About Money That No One Teaches You In School

Episode Date: July 9, 2025

Leave an Amazon Rating or Review for my New York Times Bestselling book, Make Money Easy!At 44, serial entrepreneur Daniel Priestley received a Christmas Eve phone call that changed everything - his d...octor warned him about dangerously high pancreas levels, forcing him to confront the health he'd taken for granted while building seven companies. This vulnerable conversation reveals how a successful entrepreneur making millions discovered that true wealth means nothing without vitality, and why he believes comfort is the enemy of greatness in your forties. Daniel shares his raw journey from overlooking health as "self-indulgent" to understanding it as the foundation for everything else, while exploring the deeper lessons he wants his kids to learn beyond money. If you've been coasting in your comfort zone, wondering what skills your kids actually need for life, or feeling like something's off even though your business is doing well, Daniel's brutal honesty will hit you right where you need it.ScoreAppDaniel’s book Entrepreneur Revolution: How to Develop your Entrepreneurial Mindset and Start a Business that WorksDaniel’s book Key Person of Influence (Revised Edition): The Five-Step Method to Become One of the Most Highly Valued and Highly Paid People in Your IndustryDaniel’s book Oversubscribed: How To Get People Lining Up To Do Business With YouFollow Daniel on InstagramIn this episode you will learn:Why Daniel believes carrying $2,000 cash in your pocket will reveal every limiting belief you have about moneyThe three core subjects Daniel thinks should replace traditional schooling: health, relationships, and mindsetHow a Christmas Eve medical scare forced a millionaire entrepreneur to completely restructure his prioritiesWhy wanting less money is actually more greedy than wanting more, and how this mindset shift unlocks abundanceThe vitality test: how to know when you're in perfect alignment with your life's purpose and when you're notFor more information go to https://www.lewishowes.com/1795For more Greatness text PODCAST to +1 (614) 350-3960More SOG episodes we think you’ll love:Daniel Priestley – greatness.lnk.to/1776SCJim Curtis  – greatness.lnk.to/1755SCRobert Herjavec – greatness.lnk.to/1729SC Get more from Lewis! Get my New York Times Bestselling book, Make Money Easy!Get The Greatness Mindset audiobook on SpotifyText Lewis AIYouTubeInstagramWebsiteTiktokFacebookX

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm thinking back to a time when I had nothing. I was financially scarce. Emotionally, I acted like I had it all figured out. But emotionally, I was just kind of scared actually deep inside, but I didn't want to let anyone know this about me. And I projected an essence of kind of false confidence in the world. And this was a time when I was just really unsure of myself because I didn't understand money. I didn't understand how to make it. I didn't understand how to manage it. I didn't understand how to multiply it and it seemed so far
Starting point is 00:00:38 out of my reach. It just seemed like everyone who had money and who had who had built a successful career or business or had figured out how to turn their money into working for them, instead of being in debt and struggling all day living in stress. It just seemed like these people were so unattainable because I didn't understand any of it. And it was a very confusing time for me. And in this episode, I sit down with Daniel Priestley, to talk about the three mindset shifts
Starting point is 00:01:07 that are going to unlock wealth and success for you something that is more scalable for you. So you don't have to live in stress and confusion, and just be feeling uncertain about the future. And it really does start with the mind, understanding your mindset. And so we go start with the mind, understanding your mindset. And so we go deeper into the life lessons beyond business, beyond making money, and what it truly means to live a successful fulfilling life. Because now, almost 20 years later after that time, so much has shifted and changed internally
Starting point is 00:01:41 for me, and mentally for me. Back then, I was driven to prove myself at all costs. I was driven to be the best in the world or what I could do. I wanted to be number one, I wanted to make sure I destroyed people in the business world. I was just like, so driven by different things that caused a lot of insecurity and a lot of stress inside of me. And it doesn't mean I'm not driven still to succeed and accomplish my goals and my dreams and generate more wealth and all these different things. Yes, I'm still driven.
Starting point is 00:02:12 But there's a lot more peace. And again, it starts with the mindset and how to unlock this mindset to go deeper. We also dive deep into what we hope to pass on to the next generation, not just money, but the values that are important, how to understand self worth for yourself and the ability to thrive in a world that's changing fast. Talk about in the last 20 years, I remember 20 years ago, being one of the first people to get Facebook when it was called the facebook just for college kids. I remember being on the waiting list at our college like it's coming in the next months and us everyone being excited as college students. That was 20 years ago. So much is changing with
Starting point is 00:03:01 how to navigate, understand social media, AI, the stock market, money management, world economics, all these different things. But what you should never pass up is the ability to go deeper on your values and learning how to master self-worth. No matter what's happening on the outside of you, it's always good to reflect and transform the inner world so you can navigate the uncertainties of the outer world and make conscious decisions with your money and with your wealth. We're going to talk about the different life lessons that Daniel Priestley wants his kids to master that have nothing to do with money as well and so much more that I share
Starting point is 00:03:42 from my personal life and Daniel's. I'm very excited for this episode. I hope you enjoy it. So let's go ahead and dive in. What are the three things you want your kids to know that has nothing to do with money? Definitely health, right? The physical body.
Starting point is 00:03:59 I overlooked the value of health for a long time. Really? Yeah, I envy the fact that you got so into sport and like I was just into business that whole time. And you know, when you're young, you just kind of think, oh yeah, I'll be fit forever and all that sort of stuff. So like understanding the human body, understanding health, understanding a bit of psychology.
Starting point is 00:04:22 So I definitely think it helped the value of relationships and how to build relationships, how to invest in relationships, how to preserve them, protect them, how to mend them when they break. Um, so like all of those relationships, cause you know what, you know what I want to do, I just want them to watch the 1700 episodes of school of greatness. That would, that would, I mean, actually, if you thought about it, if you just got rid of schooling and replaced it
Starting point is 00:04:48 with the School of Greatness, that wouldn't actually be a bad... Well, that's why I started it, because I was, you know, I grew up very dyslexic. I was always in the bottom of my class. I always felt insecure, dumb, not enough. And going to school was like the hardest thing to do. Every day was just like, I don't want to be here
Starting point is 00:05:05 because no matter how much I study or how hard I try, I'm failing at homework, quizzes, tests, finals. It was just like every day felt like failure, but it wasn't an enjoyable failure where I'm learning and developing. It's a fish trying to walk down the street. Exactly, when I go into sports after class, it was like, okay, I'm failing every day, but I'm seeing the improvement. Like I'm learning and I'm getting better and I can see the growth. I wasn't getting better in school. So it
Starting point is 00:05:35 was just like, how do I get out of here? How do I wait till the clock hits 2 30 or whatever in the afternoon so I can be done because it's just making me feel less than. It's a confirmation that no matter how hard I try, everyone in this classroom is smarter than me, better than me, more talented than me, more resourceful than me and it's just like this is sucking the life out of me. Sadly millions of kids are experiencing that right now because the contrast is becoming so much wider. The contrast of what's out there and what's available versus what they experience at school.
Starting point is 00:06:10 I mean, my kids aren't homeschooled, they're in normal schools and they come home and they go like, they struggle with it. And I struggle with it as a parent. Why have kids in school and not homeschool them? It's a real trick, isn't it? Because, you know... Especially if you have the financial means
Starting point is 00:06:27 and you have resources. There's some... Look, there's something about the experience. They're not hating it to the degree that I've pulled them out. But there's something about the experience of being around a big group of their peers and that school, that shared school environment. But can't you get that from somewhere else? From classes and sports teams and music classes
Starting point is 00:06:50 and tutoring and developing public speaking or whatever it is. Like, can't you get that? You know, the truth is I'm wrestling with that. I'm toying with that idea. I was saying it's a right or a wrong good or bad. I went through a pretty rough schooling system. Like I did not go to great schools
Starting point is 00:07:08 and like, you know, 40 children per teacher, there was no teaching assistant or any of that sort of stuff. And we kind of, you know, ran feral across our teachers and all that sort of stuff. And yet there was so much like there was- I'm not playing any teachers because they're limited with what they can do
Starting point is 00:07:30 and I wouldn't be able to manage 40 kids. They're within a system that doesn't, a lot of teachers really resonate with these messages. Yeah, like me personally, I just, I did get a lot of value from just like the friendships I made, this like the sports does have like a lot of sports do happen around the school. But you can still join sports teams even if you're not in that school. Fortunately, our, my kids, their school is not, it's not horrific. It's pretty good. Like it's,
Starting point is 00:07:58 it's, it's, it's not the ideal system that I would design from scratch today, but I'm lucky enough that our kids go to pretty good schools based on the traditional system. And also we do invest a lot. Our kids go to coding camp, they go to jujitsu, all of those kind of things. They're getting all of that. And when my kids come home and they say, I didn't do so well on this test, I go, it's totally fine. It's just a test. It doesn't mean anything. And they say, I didn't do so well on this test, I go, it's totally fine, it's just a test. Like it doesn't mean anything.
Starting point is 00:08:26 And they go, oh, okay. I say, it's just one way of just like checking in to see whether you got it or not. It's not gonna dictate anything about your future. So we have a good dialogue going. But I am still wrestling with it. If my wife watches this podcast, maybe it'll spark the cause.
Starting point is 00:08:44 I mean, isn't AI going to teach kids better than teachers? AI, our kids are taught by AI. So they have access to an AI tutor, and it's phenomenal. And it's wild. And it goes at the same speed that they want to go at. And it speeds up when they want to speed up, and it slows down when they want to slow down. And it can switch analogiesies or it can switch examples.
Starting point is 00:09:06 It's pretty wild and it talks to them. I mean, the reason why I started the School of Greatness was because I feel like there were so many things that I didn't learn in school growing up that I learned later in life that were the real skills, the real tools, the real lessons I needed to learn. Now I'm still learning and developing. And you said two of them, learning about health and learning about navigating relationships. Relationships, yeah. Sure, then maybe they teach some health in school or there's 15 minutes of recess. And sure, you're intertwining with other human beings,
Starting point is 00:09:40 adults figures, authority figures, and peers. But it's not teaching you how to Manage relationship. Yeah manage relation or deal with Heartbreak or deal with bullying. Yeah deal with your feelings and emotions or how to Give up speech in front of your peers Like it doesn't teach these skills that I had to start learning in my middle eight twenties Because I didn't learn any of them. Yeah now it doesn't mean I didn't learn some things in school and the interactions throughout the day
Starting point is 00:10:07 and socializing, sure, but can't you get that in other areas of life? I wonder if anyone who's homeschooling their kids gets their kids watching School of Greatness. I'm sure there are. I'd be curious to know if anyone has watched every single episode. There are people. People have told me they have.
Starting point is 00:10:23 People have told me they have. and it's a lot of content. We should have a mastermind just for those people. I would do it. The people who have sat through this. The challenge is how do you know if everyone has but people will post like every episode on social media and the people that have found the podcast will go back to episode one and get call away up to where they are now. And it's every week for 12 years. three episodes a week for the last 10 years. That's wild. So it's putting out information from some of the writers.
Starting point is 00:10:54 What's that done to your head? What's it like to, for like, cause if you were an AI. Have you seen Don Quixote? Yeah. Have you seen the movie Don Quixote? Ages ago. It's like this, you know, guy who gets sent to a prison for not doing a crime like he didn't commit a crime Oh, yeah, yeah prison and he's pretty much he can't read he can't write. He doesn't understand the world
Starting point is 00:11:16 He doesn't know math, but he's like a really good kind soul naive. Yeah, and He's in prison for a crime he doesn't commit because he was naive. Because he didn't have the skills, the resourceful enough to kind of stand up for himself or people are taking advantage of him and he just kind of gets sent in this prison for life. And one day, I don't know, seven years in, when he's about to take his own life, he hears a voice. And it's like another prisoner who's there for life, trying to dig a tunnel to escape. And it's this old wise mentor who essentially says, you help me dig a tunnel to our freedom and I'll teach you about life.
Starting point is 00:11:56 I get chills thinking about it. It's a beautiful movie. But I mean, it's a book originally, but the movie is powerful. And he studies with the mentor for like a decade while he's in the dirt, trapped in prison, setting himself physically free. He becomes spiritually, mentally and emotionally free and physically free. Yeah. He learns like swordsmanship. He learns mathematics. He speaks seven languages like he has. So this is you. This is you. like he has you this is you you feel like I'm like out
Starting point is 00:12:26 I feel like you know, I'm not as gifted as he became but I feel like it has given me a wealth of information that is Unlimited that is created a such a sense of inner freedom. Yeah and inner power of Resourcefulness that I wouldn't have had without going through this journey. Imagine sitting across someone like yourself 20 years ago, 10 years ago, when you didn't know what you were doing, and sitting across Kobe Bryant and billionaires and therapists and health experts and learning from all of them. I'm curious for you.
Starting point is 00:13:02 If you're at a dinner party and you're talking to people, you must have to bite your tongue a little bit because you've sat down with some of the world's top experts on every topic. It must be a very strange feeling to have a little bit about so much. I mean, it's a superpower. It is a superpower. But it's also, you know, I'm still the student. The reason I'm doing it 12 years in is because I have so much more to learn. I don't feel like I've mastered something. I've maybe been able to get beyond certain limitations. You've become a high agency generalist.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Exactly. And now it's like I need to keep evolving and keep learning new skills. Of the 1700, like,, thinking about my kids, if there were three brackets that you said, teach the kids about these three topics. Is health, relationships, and really money, mind, Health relationships and the ability to manage money. It's like money mindset.
Starting point is 00:14:00 And it's more because money is such a, I would say more it's health relationships and mine mindset which is evolved around purpose Yeah, no having a fulfilling life. Yep overcoming adversities dealing with challenges But money is such an important thing in the world because of how people live. Yeah That's my money interviews and episodes. Yeah, so well It's a good it's a good way to test mindset because it's in the presence of money that our mindsets get revealed.
Starting point is 00:14:31 When I had this mentor, John, one of the things he did to me that was really strange was he asked me the question, how much do you think is a lot of money? What'd you say? I said a grand, a grand a week. So he said, how much is a lot of money to earn? You gotta remember this was 2,000 and I said a grand a week. I said there's no I remember the exact words
Starting point is 00:14:52 I said there's not much you can't do on a grand a week Right. So that was my thing and he says to me Dan you're gonna be on my sales team You need to be making a hundred grand a year off gonna fire you So yeah, what is that Two grand a week, right? It's like- Yeah, so I had this kind of like weird look on my face and he said, you've got a problem with money. He goes, you're not gonna make a hundred grand a year.
Starting point is 00:15:13 You're not gonna succeed because you think a hundred grand is so far out of your reach. You know, you think 50 grand is out of your reach. So a hundred grand is like, you haven't even considered that as- So your mindset needs a shift around it. Yeah, he's like, why don't you think you can do it? I'm like, well, I'm only 19 He's like we got to shift that so one thing he got me to do
Starting point is 00:15:32 Is I had to carry two thousand dollars in my pocket at all time. That's cool He said you need to believe that two grand is just pocket money So I good that's a good like social experiment. Yeah, so I had to carry this wad of cash in my pocket. Now all my emotions came up. So carrying this two grand. If I lose it or whatever, yeah. What if I lose it? If someone steals it.
Starting point is 00:15:53 What if someone steals it? What he asked me to do was to write down in my journal, what are all the emotions that come up around the money? Carrying the money. So by carrying the money, the emotions come up. So I had stuff like, what if someone sees it and judges me? That carrying the money. So by carrying the money, the emotions come up. So I had stuff like, what if someone sees it and judges me? That's my money. He said, the Australian in you. Yeah, he says, yeah, being judged for it. Yeah. In America, it's like, cool. Australia. It's like,
Starting point is 00:16:15 what's what are you doing? Come back down to earth. Why have you got that? I had what if someone steals it? So he said to me, you have a belief that if you had money, someone would attack you for it. You would cause physical danger to you. I said, what if a girl sees it and then she thinks that I'm just like, she wants to date me and like has all these expectations, right? So then he's like, you, you feel that money would get in the way of having an authentic relationship. Right. So he listed,
Starting point is 00:16:44 I listed out all the things that came up as my fears. And then he translated that to dizzy your core beliefs around money that have to change. And it was like, it was very transformational. And see, if you didn't learn that you maybe would have made a bunch of money and one day, but probably sabotaged it. Totally. That's the whole reason I wrote, make money is totally, it's not about like
Starting point is 00:17:04 investing or entrepreneurship. It's about the reason I wrote Make Money Easy. Totally would. It's not about like investing or entrepreneurship, it's about the mindset and the beliefs we have around money. So I feel like it's so important to actually physically confront these things, like to come up against it. Like carrying money for me did it. Wow. So everyone needs to go carry a million dollars right now
Starting point is 00:17:21 with them at all times. If that's pocket money. And start to feel like, yeah, this is nothing, you know. Walk around with a briefcase. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. So yeah, it's that feeling of readjusting your thermostat around money was really powerful. So like psychology and money are so intertwined, they're so linked. Like when you receive an amount of money that you feel is too much, you have guilt and shame come up. And you go, oh, am I deserving of this? Do I need to give it away? Do I need to split it with people? What do I need to do? Because suddenly this money has hit my account.
Starting point is 00:17:57 And if you earn over $55,000 US dollars per year, you're in the top 1% of the planet Wow Right. So it's like oh, you know Maybe maybe it's evil that I've got this or maybe it's unfair or and then if you get if you get millions Oh, okay That's you know, that's pretty weird. How does someone shift their mindset and believing they are deserving of creating financial abundance? I Think I think the thing that shifted it for me was I was asked once by a mentor, he said, can I do the activity on you and see how you go? Yeah, I'll break it. So next year, 2026, you're going to earn an amount of money that satisfies all your needs.
Starting point is 00:18:48 And I don't want you to be greedy. I want you to tell me what number comes up. So an amount of money- Don't be greedy. Don't be greedy. I want you to, a number- Now that I think I'm in school and this is a test, I always fail tests, so we'll see.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Okay, so a number is gonna come to me. Yeah, and I want you to pick a number that satisfies all your needs and I don't want you to be greedy. Just pick the number that comes to mind. Well bounced around but is it to me personally or my business? It's for you personally. For me personally. The first number I don't know why it came to my mind was 20 million dollars. 20 million dollars, okay.
Starting point is 00:19:29 But I'm also trying to beat the game of this test. Okay, okay. So I'm like, okay, you know, what is not- So 20 million came to mind and then what happened? And then you saw- And I was like, is that greedy? Is that not greedy? But I'm thinking of how can I serve people with this money.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Interesting. I'm thinking of 20 million and would it be greedy because I'm just thinking about how I can make a bigger difference with this money Oh, you how can I serve you know the game right you've clearly you know how can I you know? How can I generate more so I can hire more people to create livelihood with any people? How can I that's it you know give them my team more money because now I have more money to give them How can I so what happens is I asked this of something but then I was like well originally I was thinking a hundred million but I was like, okay for me personally, you know, it's like I'm gonna be giving a lot of So I said this to a young guy a couple of days ago
Starting point is 00:20:16 Yes, and his number that he said was 250 grand Yeah, and I said that number is really greedy and he said why do you say that and I said because that number's really greedy. And he said, why do you say that? And I said, because that number only satisfies your needs. You're one person. You're one person. I said, let me ask you a question. I said, if you had three kids, would your number be bigger or smaller? And he said, it would be bigger.
Starting point is 00:20:33 I said, OK. So that means because you're thinking about somebody else. I said, what happens if you had sick parents? Would your number be bigger or smaller? He goes, bigger. I said, OK. So the more people you start to think about, the bigger the number. I said, so is it greedy to want more or less? Less.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Yeah, less is greedy. So it's like, oh, you got to flip your script here. The people who were very, very powerful a long time ago, they wanted to completely install an idea into people's heads that it's greedy to want to have more. Isn't that interesting? Uh-huh. They because they said, uh-uh, we're gonna have all this, you're gonna have a little bit, and you're gonna be greedy if you want what we've got. I see. But it's been conditioned in so many of us, right? Like just be happy with what you have.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Exactly. Now, but there's also a flip coin, the flip side of the coin, which is like just, you know, the fisherman story. You know, it's just like, why go go more boats and have more teams and book more fish to like make more money when at the end of the day, you just want to like-
Starting point is 00:21:42 Just want to be fishermen. Be on your island and fish every day and be with your wife and your kids and relax. This is a problem of alignment. So we have to choose- Seasons. Seasons of life. Seasons of life. And we have to choose what is it
Starting point is 00:21:55 that we wanna be in alignment to? So we have to be in alignment with certain outcomes, certain goals. There is an algorithm that's kind of built into us that is make the most of what we've got while taking care of self and others. So imagine this kind of like line and it's like if you've got this power to make hundreds of millions and for you that's fun and you're in alignment to making 100 million, which some people are, then you have an obligation to explore that as your life path
Starting point is 00:22:30 while looking after self and others. So it's like, I need to make the most. Now, the truth about the fisherman story is that the fisherman never had alignment to floating companies on the stock market. He didn't have the desire. That wasn't his life's path. No.
Starting point is 00:22:47 So he wasn't waking up every day going, this is something I'm capable of. This is something I should be doing. This would be my way of maximizing myself and others. He was sitting there saying, hey, based on my life's path, being a fisherman and providing for my village by going out and fishing and taking other people on that journey and having that experience, that's my life path. Whereas the person who perhaps went to Harvard and did a finance degree and has found themselves commanding a knowledge of how to do these kind of amazing transactions and deals, it's probably, especially if it brings them alive.
Starting point is 00:23:26 There's this word called vitality. Vitality has two meanings which is life force energy and irreplaceable. There are certain moments where you have irreplaceable life force energy and what that feels like is no one could be here other than this is me, this is what I'm meant to be here. In this situation I'm irreplaceable and life force energy is I'm meant to be here. In this situation, I'm irreplaceable. And life force energy is I'm bringing this to life. If I leave, this dies, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:23:52 So the fisherman's vitality is to be on that boat, bringing in those fish. If I leave, this dies. This is where I'm meant to be. This is where I'm irreplaceable. The bankers in the story, his vitality is floating companies. If I leave, this doesn't float. And trying to take someone else out of their life force energy to replicate your life force
Starting point is 00:24:15 energy is not where it's at. Unless that person is meant to do something greater than where he's at or it's- When you're out of alignment, then you know you're out of alignment and you go, hey, wait a second, what am I trying to do here? Like I'm not in alignment with my, you know, there's a life story that's unfolding. There's my origin story, my mission and my vision. My origin story is everything that led up to this point. My vision is what I want to do with my life. My mission is the highest value work that I could be doing at any given time.
Starting point is 00:24:46 And when we're in alignment, it feels like this straight line between past, present and future flowing through us. And it gives us this vitality. So this is what I'm talking about. And it's a magical ingredient. And when that is in alignment, everything flows. The right people show up, the right conversations flow, the people who
Starting point is 00:25:06 weren't meant to be there leave, the money attracts, like it just starts piecing together. So there are definitely times where you sit there and go, what am I doing here? Like this is, if I leave this doesn't die, if I leave they get on with it, I'm not in my vitality here. This is not my past, present and future expressing itself. I need to go find something else. That's fine. That's because you recognize you're out of alignment. But sometimes you recognize you're in alignment. And the thing about vitality is you can't get someone else to do it because it's you. It's your thing. That's where you're meant to be. Where do you feel like you're out of alignment in your life right now? Where am I out of alignment?
Starting point is 00:25:45 My biggest area of out of alignment is my health, my fitness. I see I've got my little bit of a over 40 chin going on over here and so- Over 40 is a mindset. Yeah, over 40 is a mindset. Yeah, I mean, my thing is I've never been great at fitness and I'm resourcing the situation, getting all of that.
Starting point is 00:26:10 But yeah, there's an out of alignment. I feel like I could do more for the world if fitness was a bigger priority and if my outcomes matched my values around fitness. Because my values have now shifted. That's definitely happened. I had a health scare and it really shifted my values. What was the health scare? It was Christmas time. This Christmas just gone.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Yeah, I did a blood test and the doctor rang me the night before Christmas and said, your pancreas is producing an enzyme that is in a very high level and it's something that's associated with not good things. And he said, I'm calling you before Christmas because I don't want you to drink alcohol very high level and it's something that's associated with not good things. And he said, I'm calling you before Christmas because I don't want you to drink alcohol and I don't want you to have a big Christmas dinner. I want you to just eat modestly and don't drink alcohol. It's that high of importance, it sounds like, where you couldn't have one more weekend.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Yeah, well, he said Christmas is a time where you could easily indulge and you could really do some real serious damage to your pancreas. Wow. Wow. Yeah, so that was a, you know this- He gave his wake up call. Charles Dickens, the ghost of Christmas Eve, that was my ghost of Christmas Eve moment. Literally. Yeah, literally.
Starting point is 00:27:14 So I spent the week between Christmas and New Year talking to ChatGBT endlessly about pancreases and- Wow, and how old are you, 45 then? I'm 44. 44? 43 at the time, Yeah. Wow. So When's your birthday March? January January. Yeah 44 okay, so 43 you get the wake of call Christmas Eve. Yeah, that hey don't have alcohol tonight
Starting point is 00:27:36 Yeah, don't have a big dinner desserts tonight. Yeah, but a doctor if it was a mild case they want to call you Yeah, no, he said, no, you're sky high on your pancreas levels. So I like, and also one of my heroes is Steve Jobs, who died of pancreatic cancer. Yeah. How was he? He was only 56, you know, and like horrific.
Starting point is 00:27:56 And he went through like cancer treatment probably 10 years before, five years before. He was like, so this is the time where it developed for him, essentially, like if he didn't catch it sooner, yeah. Wow. Yeah. So for me, that was like the wake-up call I needed.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Shift of values, shift of behaviors. So now I'm a few months into really that journey. What was your values before that phone call? Probably taking health and fitness for granted. It's always come, like I've always been healthy enough. that phone call. Probably taking health and fitness for granted. It's always come, like I've always been healthy enough. I've always, I'll tell you the negative beliefs that people who put so much energy
Starting point is 00:28:34 into their health and fitness are self-indulgent. They're greedy. They're greedy. Selfish. They're making it about them. Yeah, they're vain. And that I'm better because I pour myself into projects that add value to teens and future. This is so interesting because you know when my wife, when we started dating
Starting point is 00:28:55 like almost three months in, we still weren't officially committed but we were like spending all this time together right? So it was kind of limbo but we really like each other. She asked me the uh what are your priorities in life question which I think every guy probably gets from a woman at some point when they're dating like what is it you really want what are your priorities job interview questions exactly it's like hey well all right I thought we're having fun here I'm being weighed up right now yeah I was like and I and I remember I go what do you mean she's like what are your priorities in life and what what is a priority to you?
Starting point is 00:29:27 And I told her in that moment, I was like, do you want me to be honest with you? Or do you want me to kind of like- Give you the vanilla version. Give you what you wanna hear. Yeah. Because up until that point, I was 100% honest about everything.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Past, stuff I was ashamed of, stuff I wasn't proud of, like everything. And so I was like, all right, do I start lying now? Or, you know, like little white lies? Or do I give it to her? And I said, listen, I'm gonna tell you the truth, but this may be our last conversation. You know, we're probably gonna stop dating
Starting point is 00:30:00 after this point, because no one's been able to handle the truth about what my priorities are up until this point. It's always been like an issue. You framed that up powerfully. And so she was like, oh, you're going to say something crazy, right? Yeah. And she goes, what are your priorities? I go, well, you know, it's been good knowing you.
Starting point is 00:30:17 And this is a fun three months. But again, you're not going to want to be with me after this. And I'm okay with I'm sad because I'm really enjoying this. But this is what's going to happen. And I'm okay with, I'm sad, because I'm really enjoying this, but this is what's gotta happen. And she goes, okay, what's your priority? I go, you will never be my number one priority. And no woman wants to hear that. No woman entering a relationship with a man
Starting point is 00:30:34 wants to hear that they are not number one. And I said, there's a reason behind this. Number one needs to be my health. It needs to be my health. It doesn't mean I need to spend eight hours a day on my health. It just needs to be a focal point of taking care of my energy and my health includes spiritual health my relationship with God Emotional health and physical well-being. It's the whole health Why is health need to be number one because I need a strong foundation for my second priority
Starting point is 00:31:03 Which won't be you either. And no woman wants to not be number one or number two in a relationship. I said my second priority will be my service to the world. My purpose, which is the ability to serve people at a high level. And I don't know if this is going to be my purpose for the next five years or 50 years. It's seasonal. It may be over at some point. But if I feel like I'm meant to do something, if I have a calling to serve people greater,
Starting point is 00:31:32 and I'm being held back by it, by one person, because they feel insecure, I'm going to resent it. And I'm going to feel like I'm doing a disservice to God. And so I want to make sure that I'm living in alignment with my calling in on that path. And how'd you react? And I said, my third priority will be our relationship if we're in this, our marriage or family, like, it's not going to be not a priority. And I said, if you can receive that, and you can understand that my health mental physical spiritual is number one my purpose number two You will feel like number one. Mm-hmm because I will give it be present with you I'll have all my efforts and energy and you'll be and you'll be with the real me you'll be with the most authentic
Starting point is 00:32:17 Yeah, happiest me. Yeah, and an unhealthy me is not happy in a relationship. Yeah a person who's not Me who's knows I'm supposed to be living a purpose but I'm doing something else out of fear, I'm not going to be happy in the relationship. Yeah. I'm going to resentful. So you're going to be the guy that she fell in love with anyway. Exactly. And the trick would be is if you rearrange those two priorities, then she'd fall in love with one guy and then end up with, you know, the sail rack. Exactly, exactly. Like a discounted version of myself. Yeah, that's what I mean. Not stepping into the highest version of me. And she goes, I'm so happy to hear this because I've never dated
Starting point is 00:32:54 a man that had a purpose. Or that had the guts to say what it was. And they always wanted to make me their priority. Yeah. And I was like, that's great. But what's the thing you want to do in life? Like what are you meant to do? Yeah. And even if you're not doing it at the highest level, at least if you're like trying to do it, you know, failing at something you're supposed to do is better than nothing. And so she was like, you're the perfect guy for that. I had a similar conversation with my wife, really. Yeah, we had a very similar conversation.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Didn't have the health one in there. But I said my number one priority is my contribution to the world, like it's my purpose. And sometimes that's gonna take me on, take me on journey. You're traveling, you're gonna be this. Yeah, I'm just gonna have to be knuckled down. Yeah, but I also said that's, if you like who I am, that's who I am.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Yes. Now here's the thing, Daniel, you've got an interesting name, we talked about if you like who I am. That's who I am. Yes, you know, now here's the thing Daniel You know, you've got an interesting name. We talked about this before daniel priestly um blessing my son, you know What do you feel like? The meaning of your name is for your life. What is the meaning of it meant for you? Throughout your life You got me thinking about this. So i'm daniel steven pri Daniel is, you know, biblical character, courageous,
Starting point is 00:34:06 and a good judge. He's the divine judge is the meaning of the name from the Bible. And he's in alignment, right? That's why the lines don't touch him, because he's not fearful. That's interesting. Yeah, he's there to be who he wants to be. So nice, that character. My mum named me that because of Elton John's song Daniel's Traveling Tonight on a Plane. I do a lot of traveling tonight on a plane. So that's a little bit baked into that. Steven was my uncle who died shortly before I was born. He had a car crash and so I carry that legacy with me that this guy whose life was cut short at 24, he's part of me. Had he not died, I wouldn't be here, which is kind of weird.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Because he was the catalyst for my mom and dad getting their relationship together. Someone had to sacrifice. Yeah, that's just how it worked. For your parents to yeah, that's just how it worked. That's your parents to me. That's just how it worked. Yeah. So, so, so there's, there's that. And then, priestly, obviously, there's a couple of different meanings to that. That's obviously my paternal line. And I'm from a, you know, I'm from some soldiers who fought in wars, some people who had very good spiritual faith, and entrepreneurs.
Starting point is 00:35:30 Strangely, I'm from a long line of people from London. The weirdest thing happened that when I arrived in London, having never been above the equator in my life, having no idea of London, I arrived and I set up an office two blocks from where my grandfather was born and two blocks from where my great grandparents were buried in a cemetery. You didn't know. I had no idea. And where I live today is like a short distance from where multiple generations of my family were born and raised. So yeah, it's strange, all those priestly connections.
Starting point is 00:36:06 But yeah, the funny thing about priestly is a lot of people say that I preach a lot. I'm a little bit too preachy. So perhaps that's built in there as well. Well, you're 44, right? Yep. Which four for me, the number of, it's a foundational number, it's also, right? Yep. Which four for me, the number of is a foundational number. It's also a number of love.
Starting point is 00:36:30 But really, you know, you're an eight, you're an infinity right now, which is your 44 is four plus four is eight. And so you're in a cycle with your number. And I believe that numbers and names have meanings. Interesting. And you've got a phone call Christmas Eve. All these signs and synchronicities are lining up for you to be in alignment with your health.
Starting point is 00:36:53 And I get kind of chills just thinking about it. You have a daughter. You have two sons. Again, my thought is, what does 55-year-old Daniel look like based on the decision you make today And over the past few months that you've been deciding. Yeah, like what would 55 year old Daniel the 55 year old Daniel is going to be in the in the best shape of his life And he's grateful to 44 year old Daniel for doing fasts Because I really like getting value from fasting which is really good for the pancreas and all that sort of stuff.
Starting point is 00:37:27 And four personal training sessions a week, all processed foods out the door, alcohol and coffee gone. So those are some of the big shifts. What would 55 year old Daniel preach to you about today and say, all that is nice, but what's really at the core that you need to be doing, thinking and behaving differently so that you take us to the promised land,
Starting point is 00:37:54 literally that we're still here, not just surviving, but I'm actually living in full alignment with our health so that our kids can look at us in 10 years from now 11 years from now and say dang dad really did this mmm like dad actually stepped up and owned the courageous parts of themselves that were really hard to do yeah what is your future self truly preaching to you to do and stop hiding behind the big one is one is around trying to take a more active role in the schooling system because I know it's broken
Starting point is 00:38:34 and I know what's coming because of the technology. So, you know, not just in the lives of my own kids because they're gonna grow up in a pretty reasonable family but figuring out how do we do this more widespread? How do we create a system that is going to work for a lot of people? So many people at the moment are in pain, lots of pain. They're playing by the rules and it's not working for them. Society is splitting. We've had almost 100 years of a middle class after the war, 80 years of the middle class after World War II, and we took it for granted.
Starting point is 00:39:12 And now the middle class is in decline and we're getting rising rates at the bottom and rising rates at the top. People are moving from the middle either up. Do you know, there's more wealthy people than ever before. Wealth is definitely taking off. If you happen to be on this side, boom, it's happening here. But we're also getting rates of people who can't keep up with inflation, can't keep up with the cost of living, blame themselves. So like for me personally, hugely aligned to my mission is being on these kind of big platforms
Starting point is 00:39:43 to just talk about what's happening You know and talk about what is the work because we have this technological edge singularity where We've either created artificial general intelligence or it's about to come. We've hit the singularity Life is not going to be the same again So everything's up for grabs and people like yourself like myself Need to shape the world in a positive direction or else it'll just fall into chaos If you had to sell every business in the next 30 days
Starting point is 00:40:14 And you've got 10 times more than the number that you wanted for every business and you have hundreds of millions in the bank Yeah, and you are only allowed to focus on one thing for the next decade. One thing only, put all of your time and attention into solving a problem, serving something, optimizing, transforming something. What would that opportunity be? Yeah. So I run this entrepreneur accelerator called Dent. And if I had to sell it, I'd just start a new one, right? But Dent is developing entrepreneurs who stand out, scale up, and make a positive impact in the world. The origin of this was that I got into the idea of wanting to do something for charity.
Starting point is 00:40:54 And I did an amazing trip to India. I did an amazing trip to Uganda. I explored environmental stuff. I explored humanitarian stuff. So I really got into this about 15 years ago. Had some profound experiences, like two or three very profound experiences. And I was trying to think, like, how do I make enough money to do all these things that I'm interested in?
Starting point is 00:41:18 And then I realized, if I create an accelerator that is about developing entrepreneurs who can stand out, scale up, and make a dent in the universe? The Steve Jobs quote is to, an entrepreneur's job is to make a dent in the universe. I thought if I can develop thousands of people who can make a dent in the universe, maybe I can solve a lot more problems than if I try and do it directly and try and be the one who does it. Maybe I can enroll thousands of people to be part of this extended thing. As it stands today, we do now enroll thousands of people to be part of this extended thing. As it stands today, we do now have thousands of entrepreneurs who have committed their business to make a positive impact in the world.
Starting point is 00:41:52 So we have, you know, one of our entrepreneurs, Sebastian, has created the Warrior Academy where he teaches martial arts in Kenya and Nepal to, I think, 5,000 or 6,000 kids a week. And he had a martial arts school in England, right? And he set up his foundation. His foundation is now spread across the UK and Dubai. And he's used that to actually, and through some connections of mine, we created a patrons program. That patrons program now allows that company, that foundation to teach thousands of kids. They're all orphans, they're fed, they're taught, they're given life skills under this umbrella of the Warrior Academy. You know, I'm very good friends with Paul
Starting point is 00:42:36 and Masami who, they created something called Buy One, Give One. And Buy One, Give One is a charity that allows people that every time you buy something, it's automatically factored in. So as your business scales, your impact scales. It's like the Tom Schu's model, yeah. Yeah, but like it's created a platform for, they've now had 370 million giving impacts.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Wow. It's really cool. So all of our businesses, they sign up to B1G1 and they use their business as a force for good. So like that to me is pretty powerful. But what's the one problem if you could only solve one that you would go after? I see, I know you're letting every entrepreneur kind of solve their own problems. Well this is the problem. The problem is that we now live in a world where the biggest problem in the world at the moment
Starting point is 00:43:25 is that people feel displaced. They feel that they were brought up for a world that no longer exists, and they feel this sense of mission and meaning, but they don't know how to express it in the world. So I want, like, I'm very aligned to teach entrepreneurship. I'm not doing this for the money, to be honest. Like, I enjoy creating software companies,
Starting point is 00:43:43 and software companies create a lot of money. But all the software companies I create are also about developing entrepreneurs and doing that. Like ScoreApp has allowed 8,000 entrepreneurs to generate hundreds of leads a month, which allows them to grow and scale and allows them to fulfill their dreams. So like every software business that I'm building
Starting point is 00:44:05 is in alignment with this idea that people feel displaced. They want to make an impact in the world. They want to have a career that's meaningful. They want to explore this way of showing up called entrepreneurship and that we're mapping out the step by step. So there are actually probably ways I could make money better and faster,
Starting point is 00:44:24 but I'm really aligned to that You feel like yeah I don't know Do you pick up from me that I do stuff because I want to make a lot of money and that I've got seven companies Because I want to make a lot of money. Yeah, yeah, cuz cuz that's yeah, that's not where I come from Like it's it's very much. I'm building a mini empire because I want to see a transition happen in the world Yeah. Yeah, is there a number you're looking there hit though Like a financial goal
Starting point is 00:44:48 There will be moments in my life. No, like I'm financially sweet. Yeah, you're not like how do I get it to this net worth? It's fun to play those games. It's fun to play the game like like score app It would be It will not be surprising if in the next few years It would be, it will not be surprising if in the next few years, sorry, well this year or early next year that we sell it for close to $100 million. If that goes ahead, it's because the company that we sell it to will be a better fit for to go on and become even more successful. So scale up.
Starting point is 00:45:19 So it'll be like selling it in partnership as its next evolution. Will $100 million totally transform the way that I live? Not really, like honestly, I would go to work the next day. Solve the next problem. Do what I'm doing. I would live in the same house I live in now. I would drive the same cars that I have now. You don't eat so much food. You can't like buy more food to eat.
Starting point is 00:45:43 Like when you're, it's like. It's it, right? So if we do that exit. You can only like buy more food to eat like when you're it's like it's it right so so if we do that exit you can only be at one house at a time you know it's like you know yeah 10 houses no there's there's there's like you know uh yeah very little about the way I live would change I pretty much the the funny thing about selling a company by the way is that by the time you can sell companies it is actually genuinely neither here nor there. Because if you sell a company for 100 million, it's probably because it makes four or five million profit.
Starting point is 00:46:14 And by that stage, you've got four or five million a year. You make a bank. Yeah. I'm already in a situation where every single month our bank account goes like that because we've got so many subscribers and all of that sort of stuff. So I'm already in that position. You know, I need so much cashflow for your lifestyle. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:29 And a lot of stuff is not as fun as actually building stuff. Like I enjoy building stuff. So I would just get straight into that next project. I'd still be developing entrepreneurs who stand out, scale up and make a positive impact in the world in one way or another. Yeah. What do you want your kids to think about you in terms of what they learned over the last you know, 10 plus years growing up? What do they,
Starting point is 00:46:52 what do you wish they learned new about you as their dad? I would love it if they don't spend any time at all thinking about me, if they're focused on their life, their future, their kids, and if they don't feel any sense of obligation, any sense of, like, you know, I think the term legacy can mean many things, but the way I think of it is to pass something on, and to pass it on fully means that it's fully yours. Like if I leave you something, it's fully yours now,
Starting point is 00:47:26 that's yours. So my dream for my kids would be that they spend absolutely no time thinking about me. I don't want them reminiscing or any of that sort of stuff. Be future focused, be focused on your wife, your kids, your family, your husband, and your career. And maybe if they stop and think about it, they go, oh, I had a really good upbringing.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Like, I got good mentoring from, and my parents were a good role model for us. But only if they really stopped and thought about it. I don't want them sitting around thinking about me. If you could only teach your kids one lesson, what would it be? One great lesson would be you speak things into existence. You get what you pitch for. That
Starting point is 00:48:23 the words are creative not descriptive. So we create with our words not describe things with our words. So the way you get a hundred million dollar business is you pitch it into existence? The way you have amazing people join the team is you pitch them to join the team? You speak stuff out there and it comes and you say it's speaking It's the power to speak things into existence. So it'd be a lesson on how to do that. Yeah, I caught enrollment Enrollment conversations. Yeah, how do you enroll enroll? Yeah, King Arthur pulled the sword from the stone, the words and the tones, right? It's the message of that story is that he became king
Starting point is 00:48:54 when he got the words and the tones, not the sword and the stone, but it's the- What did he do with the words and the tones? What was it? If you rearrange sword and stone, it's the words and the tones. It's the ability to have words and tones, the ability to command an army through the power of speech.
Starting point is 00:49:08 So it's speaking things into existence. As entrepreneurs, we call this pitching. Enrollment conversation is another great way of describing it. Besides getting in the best shape of your life this year, what else do you need to enroll yourself in? Gee, I didn't know I was coming here for the hard questions, man. This is what else? The meaningful questions.
Starting point is 00:49:30 Yeah. You talk about how to make money on any show. Yeah, true. I like it. But what's the I'll tell you, I'll tell you what comes up for me when you say that. This is first world problem, but I find that I'm incredibly comfortable in my life. And the downside of... There's a problem to comfort as well. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:55 The downside of being incredibly comfortable in my life is that at 44, I'm here to play a big game. I'm just hitting my stride. As an entrepreneur, this is my decade. So to continue to enroll myself in, play a big game, take the family with, you know, take the family with, you know, honor and respect the fact
Starting point is 00:50:22 that I only get to do this because my wife and my kids are on board with it, right? So honor that relationship, honor my team, respect my team, my co-founders, my investors, you know, those relationships, but keep playing, like keep playing the bigger game. Even though it's super comfortable, if I want it to be super comfortable, it's like, no, let's let's keep that hunger You know the Steve Jobs quote stay hungry stay curious
Starting point is 00:50:49 So it would be stay hungry stay curious Did I see you hanging out with our friend Dan Martell recently I did yeah, I mean he's Seems like he's taking the call to adventure in the last 12 months of like health first Yeah, and it's exploded his business. Yeah, it seems like by going all in on health as the priority He looks so good. Like he he walked into the restaurant the other night. It's just as an athlete. You probably didn't eat anything Yeah, yeah chicken with salt. That's it. Yeah. No, I mean, it's a level of discipline to be at that level I'm not saying you have to be that extreme but look how much you know But he he looks like 10x his business in 12 and a half months or something. Yes
Starting point is 00:51:32 By going all in on obsessing over health. Yeah, and you could say one thing's extreme or not I'm not here about what is or what is it? I was inspiring to see what the belief and confidence that stems from Optimizing health. Yeah, I'm not at that level, you know, and I train hard, but he's like obsessive. Yeah. And I think he's got more of an addictive personality. So he says his current addition health addiction. Yeah, I mean, it's like he's been on the other side where he went to jail and alcohol addiction and drug addiction. So this is like he's using it for good, but it's all in one away or not, it seems like.
Starting point is 00:52:09 But it only seems like it's made him a greater leader, made him more money, made him impact more people, made him more focused and probably created a sense of a deeper sense of appreciation for what he's able to do for himself. Again, I'm not saying that's what you need to do. No, but it's like there. I am enrolling you in a a graver challenge than what you've even put on yourself because I think you're focusing on it and this is our first time hanging out.
Starting point is 00:52:40 But I don't think you've gone all in on health. I think you're like, yeah, I know this is what I need to do. And in three, four days a week and this and this. And I'm going to cut this out. But you haven't fully said, I am health. And what is health represent to me? Not just being comfortable, like you said, but getting so uncomfortable that you set up the rest of your life for decades.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Not just, well, we'll see where I'm at at 55. If I do this three, four days a week thing and then you know. And again, I'm not saying you need to be fully obsessive every grain of salt like Dan Martell, but what would your life look like if you unlocked at an even greater level of health and making it the priority above every business, above everything else, so that you can serve at higher levels in business because of that behavior shift. Yeah. Well, I think it sets a great example to my kids to start with, that success and health
Starting point is 00:53:37 go hand in hand. They're not at odds with each other. And it would just be a massive move towards being a role model on multiple fronts. For your kids. Yeah that alone would be great. It would obviously take relationship up a notch. I think too it would be just more inspiring to if I'm sharing a message it would be easier to hear that message if the person delivering it is clearly... You would be more enrolling. Yeah, yeah. Your businesses would 10x just by you going all in on health Yeah, yeah, I'm I agree. I what would it look like there's you to fully create the systems process
Starting point is 00:54:13 And vision inside of you that this is the number one versus it's a high priority Maybe not ready for that right now, but i'm just challenging. Yeah, I know to make it number one priority Because it's right up there like since christmas You're not ready for that right now, but I'm just challenging. Yeah, I know. To make it number one priority. Because it's right up there. Like since Christmas, like personal training sessions every week and, you know, I completely cut out coffee, cut out all alcohol and coffee, which has been great, by the way. Like sleep is phenomenal without coffee. I'm just trying to think like the back.
Starting point is 00:54:46 It's been four months. It's been four months of those journeys so far. Yeah, and I'm loving it. Okay, that's good. Yeah, really enjoying it. I enjoy training with the trainer. That's great. My grandfather wouldn't understand,
Starting point is 00:54:55 but I do enjoy training with the trainer. I think probably the one thing that's missing is a health challenge. So like what I haven't done is I haven't said like I'm committing myself to doing, like as Dan is doing, Dan Martell is doing like- 75 harder, he's doing like ultra marathons. Yeah, he's training for an Ironman right now.
Starting point is 00:55:14 So he's actually put a- You don't have a carrot. No. You don't have something you're like, all right, this is happening in six months. Or a stick. You don't have anything, you're just like, all right, I'm gonna do this.
Starting point is 00:55:23 Yeah. So it's creating something, I'm gonna do this. Yeah, so it's creating something I'm gonna run a half marathon or run a marathon health challenge would definitely would definitely be something that's one thing that would be one I'll challenge. Yeah Because I again I feel like what's Blocking you from making a greater impact is health. Yeah, right. I see Dan Martell's Impact. Oh, yeah, I'm And I see Dan Martel's impact. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:45 We're talking about financial. And you also see his Impact. Yeah, and you see the photos of how he was before health was an issue, was a focus. And you wouldn't take that guy as seriously. And I knew Dan back in 2009, I met Dan. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Back when he was like Flowtown, you know, and like creating these other software apps back in San Francisco when no one even remembers these companies that he was like flow town, you know and like creating these other software apps back in San Francisco when no one Ever remembers the ass companies he was a part of I remember being in the San Francisco office in 2010 with him It was like, you know eight people start-up world. I'm we used to spend time myself by Southwest every year we were in that kind of world and it was It was fat Dan, you know It was fat day on life and but he was extremely talented and fun and he was the same
Starting point is 00:56:26 Carey same guy but but he didn't have the Obsession and again, this is not a writer wrong. No, he does seem to have an addictive personality And this is he's channeled it into the right place He's putting it into but all I'm saying is the out helping the difference for me is I've always been quite a generalist So I've I've enjoyed like every say spreading myself always been quite a generalist. So I've enjoyed like spreading myself a little as a generalist. So the intensity of Dan on that one thing. I'm not saying you need to obsess like that. What are your views on fasting? I fast different times. I fast for 24 hours. Have you ever done like a seven day fast? I did a four and a half day. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:05 And it was hard. Because I did two seven day fasts. That's impressive. And those two, like nothing but water for seven days. That's impressive. And this was, this was quite a while ago. And I've never felt so good. That's good.
Starting point is 00:57:19 After that. Yeah. So like right now I'm mentally gearing up for a fast. As in like this week. That's great. Yeah, cuz I just I like it. Yeah, you know and again I'm uh, and I feel like that's also a bit of a turning point that it's like That I'm back to that level of commitment. That's great. Yeah, I Am at the point where like listen, I want to enjoy life. I don't have to be a so strict on myself Yeah, I'm not like I have to have a six-pack. Otherwise, I'm like, yes
Starting point is 00:57:47 You know, we have a six-pack. It's just it's not there's a little fat still just buried. It's a little fat there buried treasure, but But it's so for me it's not about I have to have a certain Yeah, or a certain results physically to feel like a matter or I'm enough or it's okay Yeah, like I can live in 80, 20 and be okay with them where it's like I have sugar, I have like desserts every now and then, but I know my mind that if I eat too much of it, my body reflects that.
Starting point is 00:58:16 Would you say health is still your number one? Yeah, but I also look at it as spiritual, emotional, physical health. It's not just- Holistic health. Physically, I need to be perfect. How old are you now? Forty two. OK, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:32 And it's more of like, am I spiritually at peace? Am I emotionally in good relationships? Like, do I feel good about me? How are you with phone addiction? A lot better. Yeah, I mean, I think I've gone through phases, but I have I have the Opal app on, which is like blocks me after five minutes Uh-huh from checking something. Yep, and constantly reminds me if I'm like in a loop This is the thing because AI is very good at without something like that. You got to use AI against AI Yeah, so I use that as like a blocker
Starting point is 00:58:59 Because I'm also in a media world. So I'm like, oh I want to research and what's happening and dashboards Humans have never had such dashboards. Right. Like consider that, you know, if you went back a few hundred years ago, if you planted crops, you didn't find out how those crops did for three months. No, no, we're seeing data all day long.
Starting point is 00:59:19 Yeah, so- Refreshing the data. Your brain can just be like- What's working, what's not working, testing, analyzing. Yeah, and oh, that got a million views, and now it's at 1 a million views and now it's at 1.2 and now it's a 1.3 You want to refresh that fresh refresh? Yeah, and all some negative comments Some some stranger on the other side of the world on the internet is like not happy that I recorded this episode, right? Oh, you know, yeah, so it's managing all that. I think I can definitely be better. I mean, I'm not
Starting point is 00:59:46 Cal Newport. Yeah, well, no for me that like I'm not a part of work And there's I'm not zero app and yeah, like I only do deep work part of my holistic thing is I need to like Like I find the pull towards the phone is strong. It's hard. Yeah, I do detail. I do seven-day Fasting no phone phone to have fasting phone and safe. That's hard. Yeah, I do detail. I do seven day fasting. No phone phone to her fasting phone and safe. That's gotta be a new thing. I've done seven days in a safe. I love it. Not even taking it out to like check messages. Wow. And so that's something that I like to do. I try to do that once a year, you know, where it's like a phone fast for phone faster. And there's because I
Starting point is 01:00:22 think it resets me spiritually and you end up with creativity and Stuff bubbles up to the my nervous system relies. Yes I'm and I think the the greatest wealth is inner peace. Yeah at the end of the day People are creating things as they want to feel enough. Yeah, they're creating something to feel loved worthy deserving Accepted acknowledged. Yeah that they matter. Yes, and there's another element too, which is I've got a cat. And if I get my laser pointer and shine the laser pointer on the floor, the cat just springs to life and chases it because it's instinctual. There's a lot of human behavior that is just instinctual that if you like,
Starting point is 01:01:01 and this is the stuff that these systems hack into. Like a lot of these tick tock is a laser pointer Yes, it's just it it just fires off all the dopamine stuff Well, it's keeping us in comfort and you said at 44 comforts the thing you're trying to battle the most Yeah, yeah, and it's going against comfort. It's like, how do I stay uncomfortable where I'm still not overly stressed and Exhausted but I'm not lazy. Yeah. It's like, where is finding that balance?
Starting point is 01:01:30 The balance where at the end of the day, I feel like that was a good day, but I'm not just like mentally and physically, I'm like spent and I can't recover from this. Yeah. And you're feeling totally, yeah, wrung out. Yeah. And so it's learning how to have that psychological test and emotional test where at the end of the day, like a couple weeks ago, just so much has been going on this year. Where like, my test is like, oh, my eyelid starts twitching.
Starting point is 01:01:54 Oh, yeah. It's like, oh, it's telling me I need sleep. I need to slow down. The body is giving you a little signal. It's like a little signal. And that could turn into something greater. If I don't actually listen to it, it's slow down. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:04 So I was like, okay, I actually need to rest or what do I need in this moment? And I think if I'm too much in a loop in any area, I need to find how to get back in alignment again, activating the alignment in us. You talk about vitality and when you're not in alignment, you're out of vitality. Yeah. You lose vitality. Yeah. Yeah, you do.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Yeah. You lose life force. You're just not fighting against. You lose vitality. Yeah, you lose life force. You're just not fighting against life. You can't create. Yeah, and if you experience that, that's a signal. That's not how it should feel. Like building stuff should feel joyful. It should be fun. I think fun is a word that we've lost a lot. You know, like things should be fun. Fun is a biological signal that flows through the body that says, this is great. This is what you're meant to be doing right now. I think we've lost... One thing I've noticed in the US, especially when I'm here, is that so much of all friendships
Starting point is 01:02:57 and relationships really center on work and what we could do for each other and how we could partner and all that sort of stuff. You know, like when you're in Spain or when you're in Europe, friendships are friendships. They're there for, it's for traveling through life together. It's for being, it's for being there, like it's sharing food and it's for having conversations. Yeah, and talking about life ideas. Yeah, and very little to do with with work And a lot of friendships could have absolutely they could go years without talking about work related stuff But yeah fun. I think we lose we lose track of we lose track of the fact that fun is a really good signal It's a great signal. Yes, if something's fun explore that Explore fun more 100%
Starting point is 01:03:44 It's been powerful, Danny. I've got a couple final questions for you before I ask them. I want to send people to your work. Where should people connect with you online and follow your work? You've got a lot of great books and software. On Amazon, there's all my books. I think I've got five or six different books that are out. The Entrepreneur Revolution is a great place to start, key person of influence.
Starting point is 01:04:07 My software is scoreapp.com and this is a software that allows you to build a quiz or a scorecard. We should build you a school of greatness scorecard. I mean, we have a few quizzes already, but I'd love to get my team to build this up. Yeah. And they're really fun. And like you can, you could actually do one for some of the top episodes that you watch an episode and then take the scorecard to see where you need to focus. That's cool. Which would be really cool. So our team will build you some of those.
Starting point is 01:04:33 So scoreapp.com is a super easy way to build assessments. If you're launching with lead generation, if you're wanting to launch a waiting list or if you're wanting to increase your sales conversions with a diagnostic, you can build all of that on ScoreApp.com. Bookmagic.ai is good for writing a book. And Dent.global is the entrepreneur accelerator. Awesome. And also connect with me on Instagram or LinkedIn. Yeah, I spend a... That's your full name, right? Yeah, at Daniel Priestley. At Daniel Priestley. If you want to have more courage and be preached to, make sure to follow Daniel Priestley. This is a question I ask everyone towards the end. It's called the three truths. Imagine,
Starting point is 01:05:17 hypothetically, you get to live as long as you want to live, but it's your last day on Earth. You can pick the age, but you got to call it quits and you get to accomplish all your dreams and anything you think about comes true. You manifest what you want. You actualize your ideas. You make serve billions of people. For whatever reason on the last day, you got to take all of your work with you. Every piece of content you've published, every book, every interview, every
Starting point is 01:05:43 platform you've developed, it's gotta go, hypothetically. Yeah. But you get to leave behind three lessons to the world, these three truths, and this is all we would have to be reminded of your content and your wisdom. What would those three truths be for you? This is what comes to mind,
Starting point is 01:06:01 and it was similar to what I said to my kids, which is you get what you pitch for and you're always pitching. You speak your life into existence. So be very careful about what you pitch into existence. Be intentional about pitching. Influence flows from output. It's the creating not consuming that makes the difference, right? So create, not consume.
Starting point is 01:06:31 And a link to that is like prolific beats perfect. Just put stuff out in the world. Create. Create, not consume. And the third one would be that you're in partnership with everyone. You're in partnership with everyone you come in contact with. So what does it mean to be in partnership? Well, it means you care about their needs, they care about your needs, that you communicate with each other and you get into alignment.
Starting point is 01:07:00 And that if you can be in partnership with more people, if you can have the spirit of partnership with more people, then amazing magic happens. So this idea that every day, any resource that you could dream of already exists on the planet. And you just need to be in partnership with the person who's already got access to it. You know, say if you want money, be in partnership with people who've already got money. If you want fame, be in partnership with people who've got fame. If you want creativity, be in partnership with people who have a lot of creativity going on.
Starting point is 01:07:38 So it's that essentially your life gets better the more people that you have established good, clean, empowering partnerships with. That's beautiful, man. I wanna acknowledge you, Daniel, for this conversation, for having the courage to answer some of my questions that you probably didn't think I was gonna ask you about. I didn't. And I wanna acknowledge you for being on purpose
Starting point is 01:08:02 within your entrepreneurial journey and thinking about how can you serve other people to be entrepreneurial, to make problems go away in the world, to solve problems, to be a solution in the world versus a problem to people, and to be thinking in ways that are service-oriented. And I want to acknowledge you for constantly having the conversation with yourself
Starting point is 01:08:22 about how you can be of higher service through taking care of your health and deeper levels Not being perfect and obsessive necessarily, but just going deeper and deeper and seeing how can I serve greater in the world? through being more greedy with myself Through the health journey and really taking advantage of the moment To transform your life over these next six months so that this time, Christmas, Eve, you are reflecting 12 months back
Starting point is 01:08:55 and seeing how much you transformed and how far you've come and how much greater of an impact you've been able to make in the world and the father you are becoming to your kids through this partnership of your future self. So I wanna acknowledge you for the courage you're having and the steps you're taking, not perfect, but progressing in a beautiful way.
Starting point is 01:09:19 And then I'm excited to see, I want you to text me, maybe not Christmas Eve, but sometime in the holiday days and say, here's where I'm at. Here's where I'm at. After the last 12 months. Yeah, done. And I want to see, that's your challenge for me. I like it.
Starting point is 01:09:32 I feel like I got the school of greatness experience here. You've gotten a taste of it, man. Final question, what is your definition of greatness? My definition of greatness is that you made the most with what you've got, that you make the most with what you've got for self and others. So that you, because we're all born with different circumstances and that you can truly, you look at what you did and said all things considered I made the most with what I've got And that I played a role in being part of this tapestry
Starting point is 01:10:12 You know this tapestry that's unfolding Make it a dent. I made a dent in the universe. Made a dent. Daniel, appreciate you being here. That was great. Thanks so much. I have a brand new book called Make Money Easy. And if you're looking to create more financial freedom in your life, you want abundance in your life, and you want to stop making money hard in your life, but you want to make it easier, you want to make it flow, you want to feel abundant, then make sure to go to MakeMoneyEasyBook.com right now and get yourself a copy. I really think this is going to help you transform your relationship with money this moment moving forward. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards
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