The School of Greatness - The Science Of Growing Young & Extending Your Lifespan w/Sergey Young EP 1153

Episode Date: August 23, 2021

My guest today is Sergey Young, who is a prominent investor in age reversal and life extension research and one the world's most knowledgeable people on what the future holds for life extension. Advancing human longevity has become a passion of his the last few years after his father having a tough battle with cancer and having a personal health scare of his own.He’s written a new book called called, The Science and Technology of Growing Young: An Insider's Guide to the Breakthroughs that Will Dramatically Extend Our Lifespan . . . and What You Can Do Right Now. I’m incredibly fascinated by the idea of longevity and I know this information will be life changing for so many of you.In this episode we discuss the worst things to do for longevity, the most important things to do to reverse your age, the possibilities technology will introduce for improving our health and lives, and why Sergey firmly believes that if we can make it through the next 15-20 years in good health, we have a strong likelihood of living healthily to 150 years old, and so much more!For more got to: www.lewishowes.com/1153Check out his book: The Science and Technology of Growing YoungThe Wim Hof Experience: Mindset Training, Power Breathing, and Brotherhood: https://link.chtbl.com/910-podA Scientific Guide to Living Longer, Feeling Happier & Eating Healthier with Dr. Rhonda Patrick: https://link.chtbl.com/967-podThe Science of Sleep for Ultimate Success with Shawn Stevenson: https://link.chtbl.com/896-pod 

This is episode number 1153 with Sergei Young. Welcome to the School of Greatness. My name is Lewis Howes, former pro athlete turned lifestyle entrepreneur. And each week we bring you an inspiring person or message to help you discover how to unlock your inner greatness. Thanks for spending some time with me today. Now let the class begin. greatness. Thanks for spending some time with me today. Now let the class begin.

Anne Frank said how wonderful it is that nobody need wait a single moment before starting to improve the world. And Roy T. Bennett said, don't be pushed around by the fears in your mind, be led by the dreams in your heart. My guest today is Sergey Young, who is a prominent investor in age reversal and life extension research and one of the world's most knowledgeable people on what the future holds for life extension. Advancing human longevity has become a passion of his the last few years after his father having a tough battle with cancer and having a personal health scare of his own. And he's written a new book called The Science and Technology of Growing Young, an insider's guide to the breakthroughs that will dramatically extend our lifespan and what you can do right now. I'm so fascinated by the idea of longevity, and I know this information

will be life-changing for so many of you. And in this episode, we discuss the worst things to do for longevity, the most important things to do to reverse your age, the possibilities technology will introduce for improving our health and lives, and why Sergey firmly believes that if we can make it through the next 15 to 20 years in good health, we have a strong likelihood of living healthy to 150 years young. Yes, that's right. We're going to live a long time if we implement these strategies. And a big thank you for being here, everyone. If this is your first time here, please click the subscribe button right now over on Apple Podcasts or Spotify to stay up to date and informed on the latest and greatest on the

School of Greatness. Okay, in just a moment, the one and only Sergey Young. Welcome back, everyone, to the School of Greatness podcast. We've got Sergey Young in the house. My man, good to see you. Excited about this. You're on a mission to live to 200 years young. I do, yeah.

You want to reverse aging. You want to live to 200 years. Why do you want to do that? And is that even possible for us to live beyond 120? Okay, so why do you want to do it? I have so many things that I can do on this planet. So right from the beginning, when I was a kid, I had plenty of dreams. And my mission is to change at least 1 billion lives by bringing an affordable and accessible version of healthcare and longevity to the world. And so you need a lot of time for that.

Right. It doesn't happen overnight. Yeah, it's not. And human body and mind is like the most complex thing for us to handle, to crack the code, to extend the resource. So that actually requires a lot of time. So if you think about this, if it will be one silver bullet solution for our longevity and health, we would then invent this or discover this either in the process of evolution or through science. So it's obviously much more complex than that. So that's a mission thing. And from a personal perspective, I have four kids. I'm an investor, so I'm saying I have a diversified portfolio of four kids. And well, it's just another reason to live.

So is it possible to... To live to 200? Yeah. Okay, let me be upfront. It's a completely irresponsible promise today. Yes. And I'm actually communicating and using this 200 years by a number of reasons. One, if we want to change a lot of lives, you need to get an attention.

So when you come into conversation saying, well, how about living 100 years? People are like, okay, you've seen people who live for that. Lots of people have done that, yeah. So actually I've created this whole three horizons, like horizon one today, horizon two in five to 10 to 20 years for us to live 250. And then, and it was not enough. People were like, okay, the oldest woman on earth

lived 222, so 150 is almost there. So I created the third horizon, like human avatars, human brain AI integration, virtual world, and saying, well, this is where we're gonna go if we wanna live 200 years. So again, I'm really mindful that this is irresponsible promise, but it's such a great aspiration.

And as we discussed, like every morning, I'm 49. So every morning when I wake up, I have like three fourth of my life ahead of me. So this is like the biggest source of energy for me. There's so many things I can do. So just thinking that I'm going to live to 200, it makes you start to change the way you think, your actions, your habits, your routines, your plans. You're not planning like, I'm going to start getting sick in 20 years and then retire and then just sit around. You're like, I've got 150 years left. It changes your identity. Well, this is the term that we use, your psychological age identity.

And obviously by our lifespan and life cycle terms. So if I'm 49 out of my 200, I'm still a kid in a way, right? So the world is full of opportunities for me. So that's the aspect of that. And then your energy change, the way you look, the way you communicate, the way you dream, the way you share something with people. So that's a very important aspect of that. The other aspect is we always, and this is one of our limiting beliefs, we always neglect the connection between our mind and body. We kind of think it's separate. It's not. So if you start

thinking, I'm young, and you have your psychological target age, like 10 or 15 years below your calendar age, your body actually starts to react and develop itself in a different way. Physiologically. You become more younger. The chemistry of your cells. Yeah, so if you look at biomarkers, right, the studies where we managed to reverse aging, literally at a very small increment still,

but it's just a lot of progress, always had this psychological component, like psychological work stream, when people just think that they're younger than they really is. When they think they're younger, they physically become younger. Yeah. And we've been able to track that or research that.

Basically, what is happening, we've just done a piece of research last year. It's still a pretty small group. just done a piece of research uh last year uh it's still pretty small group uh so but then the psychological aspect of aging like thinking young like almost think and grow young yes just one of the sub chapters uh in the book is always the part of rejuvenation routine and a lot of studies where we actually trying to reverse aging based on biomarkers that you have, like 44. And what's the best way to think young? What does that look like? What's a practice of thinking young?

Okay, so I can tell only from my own experience. Well, that's why we're having this conversation, right? How do you think young? Yeah, so first of all, you just need to almost like ignore your calendar age and allow yourself to be younger in terms of your dreams, aspiration, behavior. Just ignore like a social standards for you and social conditions and pressure for your calendar age. And the best thing is just for your calendar age. And the best thing is just think about the figure. So my figure is 25 years old.

Man. The figure. Yeah, like a particular age that you think your psychological target. This is who I am, I'm this old. Yeah, I'm like 25 years old. Obviously I'm having my conversation with Sergey, come on, you might look like 35 years old.

You're not that young. But then in the end, if it's part of you for like many days, weeks, and months, it's just becoming your almost identity. So having your target psychological age ridiculously below your calendar age is a great way to start. It's a great strategy. So that's just saying you're 49, so you'd be saying like, I'm 25 years old. I feel 25. I feel and look 25.

Just saying this to yourself, repeating a mantra, writing it down. What is this? So what I do like in the morning when I do priming, so I'm like, okay, I'm going to live 200 years. Actually, it's better to have healthy and happy years. Because the universe will give you the figure. But equality is probably more important than quantity.

So I'm going to live healthy and happy years, 200 years, in the body of a 25-year-old man. And that's it. This is what I'm doing. And then in the evening, when I have my gratefulness moment, I'm also just repeating that. And then in the evening when I have my gratefulness moment, I'm also, I'm just repeating that and that's it. And usually it takes like a week or two for you to accept that or start accepting that and just make it and see the changes. You'll be amazed. You're going to behave like a kid. Your level of energy is going to be completely different. And level of aspirations and your mission and your kind of life plan is different as well.

So what's the, I know you have like two different visions. One is like, okay, for the next five to ten years, what are the things that are available to us now to help us age in reverse? And then ten years and beyond, all the other things that are coming that aren't here help us age in reverse and then 10 years and beyond all the other things that are coming that aren't here yet that we can look forward to so what are something that someone who doesn't have a lot of resources and funds right now they can do to start aging in reverse besides psychological age today yes okay there's there's so many things that we can do. They might sound boring, but they work just in a brilliant way. Right. Okay?

Just for the interest of time. So in the book, I have like a bonus chapter. It's two times bigger than any other chapter in the book, and it's about 10 longevity choices. With your permission, I just want to go through five. Let's do it. Yeah, okay. These are five buckets? Yeah, five longevity buckets.

And let's start with the one which is your importance of your annual health checkup. Annual health checkup. Yeah. When I have 30 seconds on longevity, even on the passport control, when people ask me, like, you know, what brought you to the United States? I'm like, you know, I'm on longevity mission. I want to change one billion lives. And they're like, what?

So what do I need to do? So when I have 30 seconds, I'm saying, the most important day every year in your life is the day of your annual checkup. So yesterday, for me, I went to Human Longevity Center in San Diego, it was the most important day for me this year. When you have your annual medical checkup, it should be as comprehensive as possible, and it should be as expensive as possible to the extent that you can afford.

Okay? But then… What are the things you're doing at that checkup? What do you do? Is it drawing blood? Is it… Yeah, so, you know, like… Checking your sight, your hearing, your heart beats.

Yeah, there's so many things that you do that. Like I give what, 21 blood samples just to go through all of my biomarkers. Yeah. But remember, I'm kind of crazy guy. This is my mission. You can do like three probably. Yeah. But I just want to, to mention that you don't need to go to extreme. What healthcare system has to offer to you on whatever level you are in society and in terms of your wealth is enough to detect the biggest risk factors and problems in your body, right?

So don't think, well, of course, Sergey can do it. He's longevity investor, he has an access, he has the knowledge. Yes, I do, but a lot of people around me, it's just hospital next door and having a dialogue with your doctor or with healthcare provider saying, annual checkup and your risk are heart disease,

cancer, diabetes, and not really neurodegenerative disease because we really don't know now where it comes from and how to treat that so that's right that's that's the thing so what i do is like full body mri 21 samples of blood ct ultrasound check of uh your arteries here uh your heart yeah i actually put the heart monitor i'm a big fan of wearables yeah and it's. So what is that? It sticks in your chest? It's just a lot of fun. So for, you have audio

audience as well. So that's like a small piece of wearable right on your chest next to the heart. It kind of looks like a glucose monitor. I actually have a glucose monitor here. So it's internet of body. We'll come back to that. So you put it on your chest,

you wear it for probably seven days, and what it does, it does, it monitors performance of your heart on every minute within this seven days. So then you ship it, it's right here on the chip, and it's much more kind of scientific, precise, and data-driven. How are you sleeping? What's happening during the day, in the morning, at night? It's tracking all of it. Because heart disease and cancer are two biggest reasons for that. It's like more than 50% of deaths after the age of 50 happening because of these two reasons.

Heart disease or cancer? And cancer. How can you prevent those things? Okay, so coming back to your annual checkup, longevity bucket one. Think about cancer 20 years ago. People thought it's a case of death. People were actually deferring their cancer check. Because if you knew you had cancer,

I mean, you're going to be dead in just a few months. Well, it's not the case anymore. We're right in the middle of winning the war against cancer. It's still very expensive. It's still extremely dangerous disease. But if you detect cancer, and we invest through Longevity Vision Fund, we invest a lot in early cancer diagnostic. Early on, like stage one cancer, your chances to recover is 93 to 100 percent, depending on the cancer type. Imagine. If you detect it early. That's why having the health checkup once a year will allow you to catch it early, hopefully. Exactly. And technology is really progressing in this field, right? I'm

not sure to what extent you're comfortable speaking about colonoscopy, but that's the main kind of tool and intervention for us to check like a colon cancer. Colon osprey. Yeah. So then I call… How many of those have you done? So I was just delaying my… You were like, I don't want to do it. Yeah, I don't want to do it.

So you do it under sedation. So I've done two in the last five years. So I call Human Longevity up and say, guys, do I need to do one this year? And they said, no, we have the colon guard, like a new product. And it's like $19, one nine. Colon guard. Yeah. It's like a supplement or something?

Yeah, no, it's a test. It's actually a fecal test. I'm not sure I need to go out on these details for the audience. Sure, sure. The test attracts your school. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you send it in. Yeah, yeah.

Wow. But just using the neural network built by artificial intelligence on the basis of 100,000 samples for the price of $19, 100,000 samples for the price of $19. You have almost like the same detection results, detection rate, like this invasive, awful and scary procedure. And if you buy 20 tests, I mean, you don't need to buy it. It's just part of your plan, right? But like for 20 tests, you pay $100.

Imagine, so every technology that we invest in the Longevity Vision Fund, don't change the current state and it's not improving this by like factor of 10 or 20%. It's decreasing the cost of healthcare for people

by a factor of 10, 20, 50 times. And we invested in affordable ultrasound diagnostic. We invested in different wearables. Early cancer diagnostic as well. Like $19. Wow. That's amazing.

And it's more than 90%. And you'll discover the very early signs of the colon cancer in combination with full body MRI. And I can speak forever about the importance of early detection. And the same with heart disease. Just in the last 10 years, I can speak forever about the importance of early detection and the same with heart disease. Just in the last 10 years, you have special surgical robots,

like whatever the problem you have in your heart system, it's gonna be fixed with enormous degree of reliability by human doctor who's just operating this through computer computer and these beautiful robots who are just doing it. So, again, I can talk about this forever. Bucket number one, one of the most important, health checkup. And where can someone go, wherever they are in the world? Do they just go to their local doctor? Do they go and say, I need an annual health checkup?

And they'll ask you? Yeah, and my focus is health disease, cancer, diabetes. So ask them to test you on those things and go from there. Yeah, exactly. So that's number one, annual health checkup. That makes sense because knowledge is power. Exactly. And if you're not, I think most people are like,

how do I delay this checkup the longest until they need to do it because they feel like something's off, then they check up. But preventative care is probably the best thing you can do by a number of reasons it's like just do the things to prevent it so you don't have to get sick exactly well it's 10 to 20 times cheaper yes right it's much more successful less painful yeah yeah it's less painful and you don't need to wait until your body will manifest itself with disease. Because at this stage, it's almost like stage four, right? And your recovery chances, like if looking at cancer, is what, 20 to 30%.

And in terms of the quality, and even if you survive, like my father had lung cancer back in 2005, he survived. But he shrunk in size by one third. His body. Yeah, yeah. And his quality of life never recovered to this extent so this is where my Passion for longevity. I live longer and more quality. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Okay, so that's number one two I call it don't die stupid or don't do stupid things or

Scientifically, I call it passive longevity, right? So if you're smoking, statistically, you're gonna live 10 years, well, less. Right. And if you look at the average for your gender and population group, okay? So smoking, minus 10 years from your life. Not using seat belts, minus two years. Seatbelts in the car? Seatbelts.

Seatbelts, yeah. Minus two years from your life. Well, excessive consumption of drugs and alcohol, I don't even have the figures, but that's dangerous as well. So, these are the simple things. Or don't doing super extreme sports. Like, for example, I've been blessed, and I've had an opportunity to travel to, like, South Pole and North Pole, because it's still pretty safe trips. But then I thought, okay, what if I want to go to Everest, like the highest mountain on Earth?

So probability of death, if you try to do it, is a little bit around, well, a little bit above 6%. So I thought, as a man who want to change one billion lives and father of four kids, I don't wanna do it. So these are the simple choices. And again, they all rational in regards to smoking or your safety procedures, et cetera. So that's very important too. And people really underestimate that.

Don't die stupid. Don't do things so extreme that it gives you more chance of dying younger. Yeah. Okay. Number three. Third is diet. So one of our limiting beliefs, and this is what has changed for us is we underestimate the power of food and the food uh and the fact that food can be our medicine right so in this regard there's so many disagreement in in uh in uh scientific circles around what actually extends our life today but there is almost one agreement even this most skeptical one say that if you decrease the number of calories your your caloric intake it's almost yeah it's almost your guarantee that you're gonna leave like two three four years

longer and the quality actually gonna be better crazy yeah it is you'll look younger too yeah yeah exactly but then the question is how you do it right because you don't want it's for me it's a nightmare just to three days a week uh sorry three times a day seven days a week just to control like the number of calories that you do so what i do i i'm i'm doing a lot of plant-based food because the caloric intensity of vegetables is so small. Even if we have the whole table full of vegetables, you're still going to be fine. So that's one.

Two, because of the current production practices for meat and fish, the industrial version of this is full of growth hormones, antibiotics, eucalyptus bacteria itself. So I'm just trying to avoid this. So that's important as well. And this is why you switch to vegetables as well. I also do fasting, but it's not for everyone. You know, I do like 36 hours of fasting every week, Monday evening to Wednesday morning. I've been starting to do that from Sunday evening to Tuesdayhmm Tuesday morning yeah and I feel great

it's amazing this couple days ago yeah I've done it a few times this year and I'm kind of like okay once a month right now try for 24 to 36 hours yeah and it's like maybe every two weeks or maybe every week eventually I feel like I'm getting leaner I feel like healthier younger all those things so yeah yeah well let's say I also like your choice of weekdays because I'm I'm getting leaner, I feel like healthier, younger, all those things. So. Yeah, well, I also like your choice of weekdays because I'm kind of trying, I'm killing the blue monster in the beginning, right? So I'm like the most difficult part is like do it on Monday

and use it and then for the rest of the week. Yeah, enjoy. You enjoy it yourself, yeah. I also like wine, but specifically Californian one, but it's really unhealthy, specifically from the age of like 45, when your aging processes are starting to progress. So I'm sticking like probably one or two glasses of wine

every week, like on my scene days, like Friday evening or Saturday evening. Max. And that's it, yeah. I just did a brain scan with Dr. Daniel Amen. Do you know? Of course, yeah. Amen Clinics. I interviewed him for the book, amazing guy. I just got my brain scan with Dr. Daniel Amen. Do you know him? Of course, yeah. I interviewed him for the book. Amazing guy. I just got my results back literally last week and did three brain scans.

I'm supposed to go back in four months. He's giving me some supplements and some hyperbolic chamber. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did my first one yesterday. I'm doing another one tomorrow. I'm supposed to do 40 sessions. Yeah, it's at Next Health here. Yeah, yeah.

And in the chamber. 40 sessions. With oxygen? Yeah, it's at Next Health here. Yeah, yeah. And in the chamber. And he said, I asked him ago, we just had an interview come out with him, but I asked him, of smoking marijuana, cigarettes, or alcohol, which one is worse for the brain? Yeah.

And he said marijuana, based on 80,000 I think scan results Yeah Those that had marijuana had far worse brains than looking brains than those who didn't he said obviously smoking and alcohol also affected But marijuana is the worst and so if we know these things that smoking alcohol marijuana is bad for the brain bad for lung longevity Why do we keep doing them? Why do we keep doing it? Look, it's a trillion-dollar question. I can guess that I do think through evolution, we didn't really have access to all these things. So, our body and our mind has never been prepared to tackle the challenge of this kind of over availability of this of this world things yeah of the world right the so much stimulation so much opportunities challenges adversity pain

suffering media like it's much simpler life 100 years ago exactly exactly there was still adversity but it was like okay we're just hanging out with a few friends in the farm. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, I agree. And we've never been, well, that's why I talk about discipline and the unity and longevity because otherwise your body through centuries, actually through a million years of evolution has not really been prepared to handle all this stress and all these choices. That's probably the surest way to answer that. So that's on the diet.

And also the final, you know. That was three, right? Yeah, yeah. Number four? Yeah, final piece on the diet is the importance of like take out the sugar drinks. So like we're drinking water today. So that's super important.

We have way too much sugar that we should and we can't process in terms of how our body works. The fourth is physical activity. And we have a funny view on physical activity. So, I mean, as humans, everything is like black and white. Everything is binary, extremes. So, as a group of people just sitting and like watching football on TV the other group of people are okay I need to run a marathon yeah but there's so many things in between like the easiest thing you you can do is just

like where you whoop or feed beat or Apple watch and counter steps 10,000 steps a day is enough actually to to transform your metabolic state right to support your longevity like a healthy state of your body if you look at at uh science starting from 6.5 000 steps or 7 000 step is actually enough then it's a plateau but you usually say like 10 000 steps a day because we tend to under deliver yeah in terms of our target and it it's very easy, it's gamified. You can have immediate feedback, like a batches, congratulations, prizes.

And that's the whole thing. I had an interview with Adrian Gore, the founder of insurance companies. They are, I don't know who's their partner in US, in UK, it's Vitality UK. They started from South Africa. And like the only option and tools and resources they had to make people healthy is lifestyle changes.

Because of the way the country was run and how poor they were, like it was like the only thing that they did. And they work a lot with guys like apple with feedbit just to make a change in in your health through giving you different stimulus uh to do physical activity every day in form of steps so like if you do every week if you complete your seven goals you get like a cup of coffee from starbucks Every two weeks is, I think, tickets to the cinema. And then, but then the funny thing,

you'd be amazed how many things that we can do for a free cup of coffee from Starbucks. Like, oh, I'm gonna go do this for an hour. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So that's the thing. So gamified. And then obviously on top of that, if you can, you should add stretching.

You should add like, you should add like a cardio exercise, because this is the best training for your heart and vessels. And remember, it's one of the top risks for that. So then, yeah, it's heart disease and cancer. So that's super important as well. And also heavy lifting. I've seen the study actually that people who are professional like heavy lifters they have zero problem in any stage of their life even during the old zero problem

with joints and bones as well I don't know how it works but it's it's really amazing so that's that's worth that's your health everything is I mean there are some heavy lifter bodybuilders who have destroyed their body. So if you're an extremist with it, obviously it's going to shut your body down. But I think the science behind this is like the resistance training, the heavy lifting is increasing bone density. It's like it's doing all these things for your body. And muscle burns fat. So it's like helping you keep the fat off, which is helping you stay younger

and all those things. So that's physical activity. Number five. Yeah, number five. I call it peace of mind. And as we discussed, every time we think about health, we kind of defer to

and we focus on physical health. And I do think we underestimate the importance of the mental aspect of that. Because if we wanna live longer, we want to live in healthy and happy state. So that's important. And that's a lot of simple things like sleeping.

My rule is eight hours in the bed, seven hours of sleep. So that's what I- Resting for an hour, sleeping for an hour. Yeah, so that's what's what i resting for an hour sleeping yeah yeah yeah so that's what i do uh you know i might fall asleep earlier but then just i don't want to mix that you know time in the bed is not always your kind of quality sleep time then meditation is very important the problem you just mentioned how difficult and uh and um destructing this world is. So by this means we all probably have very high level of cortisol, the stress hormone.

And the way mother nature constructed our body, it's actually meant to be like a spike. So you see a bear or something dangerous in the forest, you have a spike of cortisol the straight hormone you run and then in if you're lucky in uh you know 10 or 20 minutes then you can actually relax and your cortisol level goes down so but we live in with extremely high cortisol level hour by hour day by day week by week and it's it's and it's very dangerous so meditation is is a really simple way to decrease your cortisol level and it's has enormous

health effect and also in terms of the happiness i think the sense of purpose and sharing the like social realization sense of purpose is super important. And again, as we discussed pre-show, if you think about religious leaders or people who have a big mission in life, they tend to shine more, have more energy, and live longer. Yeah, a meaningful purpose. Yes, exactly. A meaningful purpose. So those are the five out of the ten buckets.

Going back to the psychological age and social, I guess, pressures or social norms. Something my father did as a child growing up is he would never celebrate my birthday. is he would never celebrate my birthday. And I remember all the other kids in my class would have birthday parties, cakes, balloons, presents, all this, it was like this big celebration. My birthday comes around, nothing. I got no gifts, no parties, no nothing. It was just another day.

And I remember after like a few years of this, you know, once I realized at like five, I was like, oh, I'm not even, and then it was like seven and eight. I was like, dad, why don't you celebrate my birthday? What's like, do you not love me? You know, it was like sad. And he goes, son, we celebrate you every day, but I don't want to put emphasis on your age and how old you're getting.

Because I've seen so many people focus on their age and be held back mentally and emotionally and physically by how young they are or how old they are and so i never celebrated it and i was like dad but we can still get like a cake or something you know and have like presents but he was like i just don't want you to be limited by your age by focusing on time as a factor that's of importance for you that could hold you back and And I thought it was, you know, after of like the sadness of it, I was like, this makes sense. And I grew up feeling just like,

it doesn't matter how old I'm getting biologically, right? But psychologically I'm staying young and healthy and fulfilled and fun and joyful. I'm expressing myself like a child and therefore I feel young. And I never feel like limited because I'm like, oh, now I'm 38 biologically. So it's like, I can't do this. It's like, no, I can still do whatever I want. Oh, yeah. That's a great story. I mean, it's obviously a little bit painful for the kids, if I can imagine. But that's a great lesson.

But it's kind of great. It's breaking down the social norms of like how to put emphasis on our age. And how, okay, now you're a big milestone, 30. Now it's 40. Like, oh, you're getting over the hill. It's like saying these things, words have meaning and start to psychologically affect us. Like now I'm middle-aged. Okay, so you only got half your life left. What does it mean?

So it's all downhill from here. It's like the words we use transform our mindset, which affects our physiology. Exactly. Exactly. You also touched on a very important topic of how society and our life will change if we're all going to live much, much longer. Whether it's 150 years or 200 years as well. And then I think the biggest mindset shift that we need to do is that our life will consist of several beautiful mini lives. Okay. So there's mini lives. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's a great

metaphor or way to call it. So then every 10 to 20 years, we will have an opportunity and the pleasure of changing career, right? Or start to do things that you always were dreaming of doing. So that's, I do think it's important to recognize. And we always be on this trajectory of redefining ourselves. And I do think it's very soon, it's going to be a social norm to make a lot of changes in your life in terms of education, career, even purpose, even a dream every 10 to 20 years.

Well, that's one of the things to grow young. But also, I think it's a necessity in a world where our lifespan will go beyond or well beyond 100 years. Yeah, that's cool. I'm curious about environment and weather. How does that play into age and aging or staying young? Do people that live in extreme colds live longer? Do people live in extreme hots? Is it more mild temperature? Would they live longer? Do we have any research on this? Yes. And this is very interesting, actually. So every time we're talking about extremes, it's not really great.

Either or side. extremes, it's not really great. Either or. Yeah. So if you're like right in the middle of Africa and always under the sun, it's not that great because what it does, it actually speeds up the aging processes in your body. Your skin and everything. Yeah. Well, the other extreme, if you are like really up north, then it's...

The body has to work so hard to stay warm. So that's one. Well, the other thing is you are deprived of sun because it's like six months of... Yes. Yeah, what? Vitamin D. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of polar night and six months of polar day.

You don't have like a vitamin D, which process naturally in your body. And also you usually have certain limitations in terms of your access to nutritional food. Food is in deficit there in terms of variety and like vegetables as well. So you're really far away from kind of your organic farm or wherever you take your vegetables from. So I do think that we all

like if you think about us or europe in this sweet spot of um where we can live for to maximize our longevity i also i i talk about and about this in the concept called longevity revolution i do think and i i i say there's seven signs of longevity revolution just for communication purposes. And first sign for me is that I want you and all of us to watch out how longevity friendly our environment is becoming. is becoming. So like China and India added 10% of their timberlands in the last 10 years, or driver's cars. They added what? Timberlands, like forest area.

Forest area increased, right? So that's- Why, is that for oxygen? Is that for nature? Yeah, well, that's because, I mean, I think, making sure world is becoming better, right? And fighting global warming is on everyone's agenda. And, you know, like these countries, they kind of thought,

okay, if we will increase the timber like a forest land, that's going to help to solve a problem. The other sign is like driverless cars so if you are i was about to say if you're driving driver's car so if you are in a driver's car your chances to get in severe accidents or die is actually 10 times smaller if you're not driving the car yeah yeah yeah so if it's if yeah. So if it's driven by a computer. Is that out there yet? I mean, the Tesla that I have has self-driving, but you're still... Yeah, yeah, we're getting there. It's just a matter of in the next... Because I want to prepare

all of us, not only for changes that we just discussed for today, but you need to stay on longevity bridge. In the next 5 to 10 15 years you need to be healthy and happy to make sure you enjoy the benefit of all these technologies that's coming it's not too late i call it horizon 2 so we we will discuss that as well but then drive these cars so that's a natural choice you just decrease mortality rate by a factor of 10 wow isn't it amazing or plant-based meat or lab-grown meat. Well, that's just another caloric restriction intervention,

if you think so. I'm actually very hopeful and positive about the fact that right now we have a choice whether you go for like usual meat or plant-based meat as well. And I'm not religious about being vegan or vegetarian.

I have plenty of friends who are gonna have this habit. But, you know, obviously all these changes in the environment contributes to, you know, our ability to live longer and enjoy our life. In fact, I'm actually, I'm doing a lot of pro bono programs called Longevity at Work with largest corporations on earth.

I just, I don't want to use their names. And again, everything I do in longevity is me sharing the best of me. So I do it for free. But what we do, we create longevity bubbles, like a longevity enabling environment in their offices. So people use the stairs. There's healthy food in canteens and vending machines.

They all have variables. And then week by week, you just compare this department with this department, this state with this state as well. They have, and right now we have so many apps for like meditation, for smoking cessation. And an annual checkup is a part of so many health plans. So you just need to have a good focus on that. So this is what we do. It's just another way for you to improve your longevity chances.

To make sure you're surrounded with healthy choices. Rather than you open out your fridge and it's like alcohol and chocolate. I love all of this. But it's like alcohol and chocolate. I love all of this, but it's just not really healthy. We are not prepared to handle these choices on a regular basis by Mother Nature. Yeah. What do you think is the perfect temperature to be at?

If you're like 75.2 degrees year round, or is it good to have some seasons where there's some cold months, some hotter months, some milder months? What do you think about temperature? So if you look at distribution of lifespan all around the world. The blue zones. Yeah. What are the temperatures?

Yeah. So if you are not on the extreme side of the earth, like not on equator or not in a North Pole, the biggest determinants of your lifespan is actually not the climate, but your access to healthcare. That's important. And your income and your genetic predisposition right so if you are

lucky in genetic lottery you have like rare disease so that's that's bad as well well that's why my mission is to bring affordable and accessible version of longevity to the world because I'm kind of less interested to create something which will cost like millions of dollars and give just very few the opportunity to outlive the others. That's it. But then just to be practical here, I think anywhere in the room like between 68 and like 70 degrees is fine. and like 70 degrees is fine. People, so the way our body develop itself and optimize itself is just reaction to mini shocks. So that's why like cryo chambers is important.

Hyperbaric chambers that you're doing is also important. So they change the inflow. It's usually kind of full of oxygen. So that's actually pretty important for your brain health as well. So that's why people love to take like a cold showers because I mean, if you do it like for two or three minutes, it's just like body starts to respond to that,

like a mini shocks. And if you look at what Nassim Taleb, anti-fragile, Anti-Fragility book. So he's basically said that a series of mini shocks prepares us for handling much bigger shocks in our life. Yes. And this is the way body develops itself. So I do think making sure you're not that comfortable

and it's volatile, right? In a way, and also temperature-wise is important as well. That's good. What would you say are the five worst habits that actually shorten our lives? One, we covered this a little bit. So one is obviously smoking, right? And I can expand it to like drug addiction.

So that's one. Two, yeah, I don't want to talk about alcohol. I think it just goes without saying. I think it just goes without saying. Two is having your diet wrong. Bad diet. Yeah, it's bad diet. And specifically, we're living in a world which is full of temptations.

And we basically delegated and outsourced all our food choices to big food producers, other suppliers, to advertising as well. So I do think it's time to take back control and responsibility for your own health through kind of defining your own diet. Third is lack of physical activity. So that's really bad. of physical activity, so that's really bad.

Fourth, I think it's just this reactive approach to medicine, which starts with us. So unless my body manifests itself, if I have a problem, then I'll see a doctor, right? And it's usually by that time, it's really too late to treat it in a optimal, inexpensive, and highly successful way. And fifth, I think it's just priming ourselves to be negative. And if you watch TV or you go to the news website today, you have a feeling that the world is falling apart. It's not. This is like, I know it might sounds ridiculous

for some of you, but this is like the best time to live on this planet, statistically, through the whole history of humanity, right? But then, instead of that, we just, we get this, all the pieces of bad news. So I do think it's just keeping the distance from constantly bad news. So I do think it's just keeping the distance from constantly negative news and making sure that you have something positive in your life and in your mindset.

And how important is sleep to living longer? You talked about it a little bit. I don't know if you had a chance to talk with Matthew Walker. I'm supposed to interview him soon, but I've had Shawn Stevenson on who's written a book about sleep. Yeah, so frankly speaking, before probably age of 45, I was looking at sleep as obligation.

So it was almost like endless credit of hours. Yeah, I can wake up early. I'll just do that. I'll stay late, etc. And then after reading Why We Sleep by Matthew Walker, this basically changed my life completely. So I do think it's super important by a lot of scientific reasons. And I obviously know, I have a lot of friends who run longevity and human performance optimization clinics all around the world. So there's a guy called Dr. Jack Cradle. So first time I met him, I'm like, so what's your advice? So he, we had a lunch and he was just looking at me and he said,

the beautiful, he said, Sergey, every night we have an opportunity to visit the best clinic in the world. We go to bed. And I'm like, oh, my God, this is the best way to put it. So, I mean, it's like, and then it really costs nothing, right? So you don't need to be rich to improve your quality of your sleep. I mean, it's obviously just a lot of, like, techniques around that. But that's it and so this is the best clinic in the world in terms of your hormonal balance the level of energy

uh in fact if you look at science there's a so if if you were sleeping less than six well probably five hours your chances to get alz is 40% higher. Wow. Yeah, and neurodegenerative diseases are such an unknown territory for us. So, I mean, if you can almost guarantee you decrease your chances to hit that by sleeping more, I think we all should do this.

Right, right. And what about, you mentioned not being negative. What does a positive mindset in general do for our longevity? So my definition of positive mindset is like not judging people. And it's, I mean, it's always much easier to say that rather than to live with this habit. But like your mental discipline is pretty important. So every time like I'm going in my judgmental mode,

I'm always like, who am I? Who I am to judge these guys, right? And if someone does something, sometimes it's just like a good reason for him or her to behave this way. We just don't know that. So there was a number of reasons.

Like if someone is just not responding to your emails, well, think about what if they have like a huge trouble in the family, right? And we always, by default, we're just like, well, what the family right and we and we always by default we're just like well what it's called you're just not responding to my email so it's like giving people like a benefit of doubt and and always um think that there's all positive interpretation of other people actions so that's one the other one is um is just giving more than taking from the world i think it's very important because we have this transactional mentality so you know i'll just do

something for you and you'll do something for me i don't think it's the way how world and universe works. And I'm just realizing that. And I've seen so many lives changed. People who just decided one day that they're going to share the best of themselves with the world and how rewarding it can be. And literally, it's three, six months. And you just get a completely different level of support and positive vibes and good six months and you just get completely different level of support

and positive vibes and good things happening around you. Right. What about money? How important is money and longevity? How important is thinking about money, making money, not having money?

How do these play in? Do people with less money live longer? Do people with more money live longer um so again again it's it's a sensitive topic for me because of my mission again affordability and accessibility aspect is is um is um is of the major focus for what i do and and the fund as well so it's a it's a very complicated question, obviously. And I think that money is a very important resource. Well, this is the way this world has been constructed, that this is what we use to exchange for good services

and some other things. So in a way, and again, which is coming back to one theme today, like how bad extremes can be. So if you're like really obsessed with that, it's actually replace your sense of happiness, sense of enjoyment in the world. You're like almost like insecure overachiever, which is working on and it's never enough. Right. So that's one extreme the other one is like if you completely ignore the role of money in our life whether it's in longevity or like in a broader sense then that means that um some of the

important things will not be available for you because there's is not going to be enough money or res or resources for you to enjoy that and i'm not talking about i don't know big house or yeah or private plane i just i'm not interested in that you know my ass is as comfortable in economy class as in private jet so it's the same speed and it's the same point a to point b so i'm i'm really indifferent about this uh this whole thing so in in this you know the extent but obviously I've seen so many people who became kind of happy by the moment they realized that life is just not about money, just about simple pleasures, happiness, helping others kind of things.

I know it sounds a little bit altruistic but this is like I'm always been criticized for being idealistic so that's that's me yeah

I mean you've been around in the venture capital world investing world for a long time yeah 20 years you've met a lot of extremely wealthy people

billionaires you've worked with you know you know a lot of these individuals does having more money make you billionaires you've worked with, you know, you know a lot of these individuals. Does having more money make you less judgmental, more mentally disciplined, more altruistic with the world

in general, in your mind, or does it not matter? No, I meant more in proportion, I meant more happier and healthier people in whatever the definition is. I met more happier and healthier people in whatever the definition is. Like if I can kind of say I'm middle class, then I'm middle class, whatever is between two extremes. I think it's, because at certain point of time, in the equation between you and money,

money becomes kind of first. So if you elegantly kind of ignore or deprioritize that, it actually makes you more balanced. And think about, so when I started to do priming and I was just thinking about what are the things I'm the most grateful for in this life, I was really shocked actually. Because I was thinking this whole career,

like raising the next fund, finding the company who can change the world is like the best, but then it's like pictures of my parents, my wife and my kids and my dog actually, yeah, corgi dog. That's it. And it was, I know it sounds really obvious, but like for 45 years old man, it was shocking realization that whatever I thought

is important, it's not. Right. What about the next wave in 10, 15 years? You've got a wearable on your chest, you've got a glucose monitor. This is like version 1.0 of like technology connected to the body. But what is available now? What is going to be available in 10 years for us to look forward to so that we are disciplined now and we could use these things to accelerate living a longer life?

Okay. Very interesting question. There's glucose monitors now where you can track like your blood sugar, your spike in your food. You've got this heart monitor that's in your chest right now what else do we have right now okay um so what i'm gonna do so i call it horizon two of longevity and horizon two is about what are the technologies and scientific inventions that we're gonna see and enjoy yes uh in like 10 15 years time 5 10 15 years time but what I

want to do I'm gonna talk you through like the free like three biggest areas okay for the change but I'm gonna be using examples from today okay okay so one is genomic medicine or like gene editing or gene engineering. Gene editing. Yeah. So then there's so many things which is happening in this field. And if you want to pick up like one technology and one piece of science which would fundamentally change us as humans, it's actually genetics, right? And our ability to influence that, reprogram that. In fact, I do believe that in 10 or 20 years time,

science and technology is gonna be there. The problem is, is gonna be like regulation, obstacles and barriers and ethics. I actually, I call it morality of immortality because I do believe that we have created technologies to extend our life, but we haven't created life that we want to extend. And that's like the biggest problem.

So if you're interested, we can discuss later. But then- So genetic engineering. Yeah, like genetic engineering. Because there's so many things that you can do. I mean, we might not know, right? But Moderna vaccine, and there's so many COVID vaccines, or it's just gene therapy therapy uh gene therapy yeah so

that's uh that's actually uh that's how close we are like 10 years ago you can help like tenfold of people like people who suffer from really rare genetic disease with the technologies that we had 10 15 years ago right now it's massive. Or there's a drug, I don't want to use this name, which helps you to reduce cholesterol. And 40% of people, of population in developed countries, including the U.S., suffer from high cholesterol problem, including myself. So it's just gene therapy drug, which can, I mean,

you do it probably once every six months which reduce your cholesterol level and this is how close uh gene therapy uh and you know overall uh field of genetic engineering right you know come to us so this this examples from today but it's going to be massive in 10 to 20 years time and that can you can even on an embryonic stage you can peep you can make kids and people are uh prone to oh sorry uh you can like defend them from uh hiv from a lot of many disease from genetic disease as well um and and like we already know like 3 000 genes we which are responsible for longevity, for us living healthier and longer life.

So technically, we will be able to reprogram them or switch them on literally next 5 to 10, 15 years. I'm pretty sure it's happening today in the lab. But again, the question is going to be, are we ready as a society to accept that and i again again i'm not advocating this so there's a huge debate that we need to have what is permitted there but usually you start helping people who like and they really late having really late stage disease where they have no alternative for treatment apart from that similar to what is

happening with elon and Neuralink. Well, if you think about Neuralink as a way to help people who have Alzheimer's or dementia, well, that's a great invention. So the first is gene editing, gene therapy, very promising. There's so many science and technology of this developing today including vaccines uh but then it's going to be transformational in terms of the size of uh of application of this technology and and science breakthroughs in our lives so that's one okay

second is organ regeneration so if you speak to father of gerontology, Aubrey de Grey, he's saying that what we're doing now, we're transforming the view of human body from biological perspective to engineering perspective. It's almost like an old car metaphor that he used, that if you wanna extend resource of the old car, all you need to do is just kinda do maintenance and change the parts. So this is what we're need to do is just kind of do maintenance and change the parts.

So this is what we're trying to do in case of human body and actually human mind as well. And then there's so many things happening in organ regeneration field. Like two years ago, we invested in a company from Pittsburgh called Lygenesis. All they do is they regrow organs inside our own body. Yeah. So then- That's crazy. I think it's crazy.

And they're starting human trials next month. That's crazy. They just have FDA approval. So what is happening? Oh my gosh. So in today's environment, if you have a problem with liver and you need to have a liver transplant, you wait six, nine, 12 months. Some people die. They couldn't really last that long. It's a very expensive procedure. It's

probably $700,000 to $800,000 for that. And success rate is not that high because your body thinks that this is a foreign organ and it does its best. Wants to reject it. Yeah, reject it. So it's autoimmune rejection reaction. Oh my gosh. So this is what is happening today. What Lagenesis does, it takes a donor liver, split it in 50 or 70 pieces,

use very non-invasive, like laparoscopic operation to put it in your lymph node. It's actually here. Well, this is the best way to regrow that. And in course of three to six months, your body regrows like your liver B. And then what, you remove it and put it in?

No, no, no. It stays there. And look, our body is just a piece of art, right? And it takes as much work from your damaged liver as possible. And that's it. You just live with that. Wow. So they've done it with mice dogs um monkeys and again they just got it with 100 success rate 100

and they just got fda approval to start human trials so it's not even like 10 20 years from now but then imagine how many lives that we can uh that. Or Martin Rotblat, amazing woman, founder of United Therapeutics. They work with 3D printed organs. They work with center transportation, just taking organs from other animals, human-like animals like pigs, etc. And helping people who's just going to die without that help. And there's so many technologies that she's working on. So it's just brilliant.

And in the end, actually, the funny thing, the most difficult organs for us to recreate and replace are heart and brain. And probably for the good reason. But all this will come in the next 10 to 20 years.

So that's... That's crazy. We're going to supplement this with computer brain integration, interface, anyway. So that's the second piece, like organ regeneration. And then third is longevity in the pill. We're so used to the model of medicine when we're just taking pills, and I kind of respect that. I actually think it makes sense.

So we already have quite a few drug candidates for us to be able to use them as longevity drugs because right now if you go to like Walgreens or CVS and you ask like a drug against aging, they will think you're crazy or they will send you to cosmetics or to supplements. And this is counterintuitive, right? Because your chances to get disease like your heart disease, cancer, diabetes is exponentially increased with age, usually after age of 50 or 55. So that's, why is that? So obviously, we're looking at few trials

like TAME trial done by a very good friend, professor near Barzilai. When they take in generic drug called metformin, who's been there for what, 50, 60 years, very safe, and they start in the trial with 5,000 people to see if there's actually any positive effect on their lifespan and healthspan. And I think statistically, I do believe that midformin,

we will prove that midformin can extend our life by two, three, even four years. But please don't rush to pharmacy, your doctor asking them to prescribe you midformin. You need to stay on longevity bridge, but then in five years time, we'll have more different candidates for longevity drug and in the and I always kind of try to remember this funny things interesting things

about different longevity treatments and interventions so they do in the study were like 5,000 people with metformin and you know that in every study you certain group you do metformin right and the other one you do placebo. So placebo for this study was more expensive than midformin itself. This is how cheap this whole thing. And this is actually illustration that not everything that, and it's not a good excuse saying like,

I couldn't really afford this, this and this. There's so many lifestyle changes or the simple things like performance. We will be able to use in a very near future to change our life and to improve our health. That's exciting. It is. And there's going to be new devices as well that we're connecting with our bodies. Yeah.

So my concept called Internet of body and and you know I'm I'm not saying this is my thing right I think it's natural it's just like logically you you expand the Internet of of things concept to Internet of body and but we all gonna be connected in in many ways. So like, well think about this Zio patch right on my chest. So what it does right now, it puts everything like seven days data, and nights as well, on a chip,

and I just ship it to the company. In the next three to five years, it will just, we're gonna be direct transmission of the data in my electronic health record database yeah and that's it and the same with glucose monitor uh watch out apple apple has uh enormous ability to disrupt a lot of things and when people ask me about the future of health care industry i i'm actually saying that the the biggest change will come not from old players do a new thing the biggest change will come from from old players doing new things. The biggest

change will come from new players doing completely new things. And like if you listen to Scott Calloway, Professor Jay, he's saying, so if Apple want to add another trillion or two to its market capitalization, there's only three avenues. So it's education, healthcare, three avenues. So it's healthcare, education, healthcare, and automotive, like a cars. So that's it. So, and then I've just seen a report a year and a half ago, I think it came from Morgan Standard that Apple might generate half of its revenue from healthcare by the end of this decade. Imagine that. We don't know if this is happening or not, but obviously we tend to think that our variable is like, you know, help us to count the steps, but it's already personalized healthcare devices.

There's so many things that you can do with that. And all you need to add is like your glucose monitor there and blood pressure monitor. So that's going to be like 90 to 95% of data you need to measure on a regular basis. So that's why, know i'm i'm fan of the different wearables but i switched to apple watch because it's like probably the biggest and most promising platform which also personalized healthcare right as well and then funny enough what was this okay so it was a study i was just looking at from last year that 30 of the world data uh is a healthcare data imagine that and um well the other funny things i'm full of anecdotes that i think it was in uk

like a natural uh national healthcare regulator uh recently prohibits the purchase of fax machines for It's the purchase of fax machines for healthcare providers and hospitals. Imagine, it's 2021. When was the last time you've seen a fax machine? Yeah, I'm not even sure. Yeah, but then it's still like 70% of the data exchange happening in form of fax. Wow, that's crazy. So what are we talking about? That's why it's important to be digital.

It's important to embrace the concept of Internet of Body. And it's like as preventive as possible. So it's going to be, I guarantee, it's going to be 10 to 20 times cheaper for you, for your healthcare provider, if you do that. I'm loving this stuff. This is some great information. You got a lot more great data in here

that people should check out. The Science and Technology of Growing Young by Sergey Young. Make sure you guys check out the book. I've got a couple final questions for you. This question is called The Three Truths. I ask everyone at the end.

So I'd like you to imagine you're 200 years old and it's your last day. You finally got to turn the lights off. You made it, but you got to go to the next place. Okay. You got to leave your body, whatever happens with your mind. But let's say it's over.

And for whatever reason, you've accomplished every dream. The billion lives you're changing, you're writing books, you're doing whatever you want to do. You're living those dreams. But for whatever reason, you've got to take writing books, you're doing whatever you want to do. You're living those dreams. But for whatever reason, you've got to take all of your written words with you, all of your content, your work, the information you put into the world, videos, whatever. Yeah. Got to go with you to the next place. Okay. So no one has access to your information anymore. This book and everything else is gone. Hypothetical. Interesting. But you get to leave behind three things you know to be true. Three lessons you would leave with the world. And this is all we

would have to remember you by. Okay. What would you say, Sergey, are your three truths? Okay. First, there's only love. If people are mean to you, not supportive of you, being judgmental with you, discouraging you, giving you a hard time, you need to love them unconditionally because they are in search of love. This is what they strive for. This is what they're

missing in their life. This is their way to cry for help. So whenever you think someone is really been bad for you, you just need to transform it into understanding that this person needs help. understanding that this person needs help and and it's now your responsibility to give him or her as much love and support as you can and and i've done it so many things in life you couldn't even imagine how people change after you you kind of give them like even a recognition of their heart feeling or the hardship that they went through life in the past or today type of problems they were trying to solve and you were there to support them and help uh so that's that's gonna be truth number one okay number one truth number two is um you need to embrace as much nose in opposite to yes that you receive so we we live in a culture where uh no is like a shame we take it personally we think it's failure uh but then like speaking of martin rothblatt is just

working a lot on organ regeneration so she's saying like if i didn't receive my 99 no's i will not get to my yes so just embracing your failures and um been really happy that someone is uh told you that because as i think it's scott galloway again because saying if you're not receiving enough notes that means that you're not gonna try and uh heart it and then the third truth is The only guy the only person in this world that you competing with is is just you okay, so No matter how strong or weak you are and in in any areas Your mission and your happiness will come from every day trying to be like a better, even a little bit better version of yourself. This is the most fascinating mindset that you can have. Well, that's beautiful.

I don't think I've heard those three in that order, so that's great. Thank you for those. How can we support you? Where can we follow you online? I think the easiest way is to go to sergeyyoung.com. And we have a beautiful newsletter. There's a lot of newsletters in the field. But what we're trying to do,

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Morality of Immortality about how our world and we should change by taking responsibility for our own health and the health of the planet uh on our own uh shoulders so that's probably like the easiest way to follow me like instagram or you know link so young on instagram as well perfect sergey don dot com check out the newsletter instagram as well get the book the science and technology of growing young make sure you guys check this out. Final question for you before I ask it, I want to acknowledge you, Sergey, for your mission. I think having the audacity to live to 200 is a big mission and a dream that

can at least inspire people to live longer. Maybe they don't want to live that long, or maybe they can't think that big, but maybe they say, you know what, maybe I get to 100, 105, 110, whatever it is for them. So I acknowledge you for your youthful energy, your maniac on a mission research, and your investing in these technologies to help it be more affordable for the rest of us to live younger. I appreciate and acknowledge you for that. My final question is, what is your definition of greatness? Definition of greatness. Well, my definition of greatness is you are great when you're helping other people to be great.

That's it. There you go. That's like the only thing we need to remember. So good. Thank you very much, man. Love it. So yeah. Thank you very much, man. Love it. Thank you.

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