The School of Greatness - The Superfood Mindset: Enhance Your Brain, Body & Life w/Darin Olien EP 1088

Episode Date: March 24, 2021

“If you are willing to be vulnerable it is a superpower without needing any approval. That is a superpower untouchable and the ultimate freedom.”Today's guest is Darin Olien, who is a highly recognized exotic superfoods hunter, supplement formulator, co-host of Down to Earth with Zac Efron and author of the New York Times bestselling book, “SuperLife: The five fixes that will keep you healthy, fit and eternally awesome. In this episode Lewis and Darin discuss why water is incredibly important to our health and how to make sure you’re drinking the healthiest water, the correct way to separate your foods before eating, what foods you should and shouldn’t be eating, and so many other fascinating insights that’ll change the way you view nutrition and health!For more go to: www.lewishowes.com/1088Read Darin's Book: SuperLife: The 5 Simple Fixes That Will Make You Healthy, Fit, and Eternally Awesome Check out his website: www.darinolien.comThe Wim Hof Experience: Mindset Training, Power Breathing, and Brotherhood: https://link.chtbl.com/910-podA Scientific Guide to Living Longer, Feeling Happier & Eating Healthier with Dr. Rhonda Patrick: https://link.chtbl.com/967-podThe Science of Sleep for Ultimate Success with Shawn Stevenson: https://link.chtbl.com/896-pod

This is episode number 1,088 with New York Times bestselling author, Darren O'Lean. Welcome to the School of Greatness. My name is Lewis Howes, a former pro athlete turned lifestyle entrepreneur. And each week we bring you an inspiring person or message to help you discover how to unlock your inner greatness. Thanks for spending some time with me today. Now let the class begin. Anne Wigmore said, the food you eat can be either the safest and most powerful form of medicine or

the slowest form of poison. And actor Robert Urich said, a healthy outside starts from the inside. Welcome to the School of Greatness. My guest today is Darren O'Lean, who is a highly recognized exotic superfoods hunter, supplement formulator, co-host of the hit Netflix show Down to Earth with Zac Efron, and author of the New York Times bestselling book, Super Life, the five fixes that will keep you healthy, fit, and eternally awesome. And in this episode, we discuss why water is incredibly important to our health and how to make sure you're drinking the healthiest types of water, the starter kit for optimizing our health, the correct way to separate your foods before eating, what foods you should

and shouldn't be eating in general, and so many other fascinating insights that'll change the way you view nutrition and your health. If you're enjoying this at any moment, make sure to share this with someone you think would be inspired by this as well. Just copy and paste the link wherever you're listening to this podcast. And as well, click the subscribe button over on Apple Podcast and leave us a review letting us know what you enjoyed the most out of this episode. Okay, in just a moment, the and only darren o'lean welcome everyone back to the school of greatness podcast we've got darren o'lean in the house my

man good to see you good to chat with you uh off camera congrats on everything down to earth massive success i watched it in like one day and I was actually the first episode I was like, huh? Is it gonna pick up like the first episode for me? It was actually the not the best episode But then once I got through that I was like the rest of them were bangers for me. So it was amazing And the end is incredibly inspiring of the journey that you go through and everything So if people haven't watched that yet They should watch it because they're gonna learn a lot about some of the journey that you go through and everything. So if people haven't watched that yet, they should watch it because they're going to learn a lot about some of the things we talk about here. I want to start you with a question that I ask a lot of nutritional experts.

It's a hypothetical question, so bear with me. And I know you've studied pretty much every superfood there is. But if you were stranded on an island and you could only eat five foods for the rest of your life, hypothetical question, but it needed to keep you strong and healthy and happy and whole, what would those five key foods or ingredients be that you would eat? Okay. Kind of these core foods.

And every doctor nutritionist has a different take. So I'm curious, your philosophy. Okay. I love that you didn't ask me this before we turned the camera. I actually love because it's great that it's spontaneous. But I would say spirulina. Okay. Moringa, aloe vera.

You've got moringa, which is the vitamin tree. That is another term for that. So that gives you the idea of the antioxidants, the micronutrients that are actually within the whole leaf of that tree. You've got spirulina, quite possibly one of the most nutrient-dense foods in its raw form. Different than the powder. How do you get it raw? There's a great company.

They're going to love me right now. I get nothing from it. Raw Living Spirulina. It comes to you fresh frozen. It is the only company that I know of that is doing it. Okay. Moringa. What is Moringa. What is moringa?

Oh, dude. First off, what does spirulina do for the body when you're taking the raw form? Well, in the raw form, you've got all B vitamins, including B12, B6, B9, B12, all of that. Is this a liquid? Is this a plant? Is this a root?

So it's grown in fresh water. It's a type of algae, type of blue-green algae. So you've got a mimicking of hemoglobin, red blood cells. You've got chelation ability of heavy metals. You've got, obviously, the B vitamins, vitamins vitamin e high amount of antioxidants complete protein uh in its right form not a huge amount because you can also make that argument too much protein is also as its detriment um and then you're shifting over to moringa which is literally i've i've studied and researched moringa in probably six to seven countries and it is an extremely strong and

powerful leaf you just grind it up and literally call the vitamin tree or in africa they also call it never die so you take it and you never die um never die never die moringa it's a tree or it's a leaf it's a well you eat the leaf it's a tree but you can actually bring a tree it's a moringa yeah so it's technically a bush but you can let it grow but you want to if you're growing it, you cut it off and then it proliferates the leaves and you actually get more harvest. I've done some work with the with the indigenous people throughout Arizona and we experimented and grew moringa in Arizona. Moringa in Arizona and it turns out and I worked with some processors and in Palm Desert friends of mine who have facilities and I did the top-selling Moringa that I had in the market with mine and I blew the nutrition away just because of the understanding I have learned so the nutrients calcium magnesium potassium vitamin e 36 different

types of antioxidants wow again complete protein right now if you're going to say i get the moringa shrub or tree with me in this journey on an island now i actually get the oil the beneficial oil from the seeds which are look like drumsticks right and i can filter water with those seeds and create clean water whoa so now you're kind of like like layering it okay and then so then i would get the moringa from so where's the best source i'm telling you i've been wanting to put mor Moringa out in the marketplace for a long time because I haven't seen great Moringa yet. So I don't have a clear, clean source of it. Okay. dry it and pulverize it and wash it right away and you transport it over time the antioxidants um it starts degrading pretty quickly so it's not as quality it's not even worth taking unless it's

that's not that it's not worth taking you're just not quite getting all of the nutrients i study the nutrients in those forms you're just not getting as quite as much of the vitamin uh-huh and and antioxidant capacity and then i think i would pick the king of all fruits with me so notice i'm stacking up pretty heavily this is number three then yeah so the the three is probably the king of all fruits durian d-u-r-i-a-n the fruit durian fruit is a spiky gnarly southeast asia is typically where it's from it actually can kill people when it falls off a tree and it actually does it's got spikes on it when you crack it open it looks like It's like a coconut with spikes. Yeah. Wow. And it breaks open and it looks like brains. And it smells like a sewer. Oh, man.

And it's illegal in Southeast Asia to actually bring it in public buildings. To eat it because it smells so bad. You can't bring it in on buses. You can't bring it on planes. You can't bring it in hotels because it smells so bad. So the nutritional value is so high though? So high. Really? Yeah. It's antioxidants again, huge array of vitamins. And they call it the king of all fruits because of its interesting composition. Can people get that here? There used to be a group that was sending it frozen here.

I'm not sure that they still are in existence. And I used to eat it dried. So there was a group drying it. So it didn't smell as bad, probably. It didn't smell as bad. And my God, it is my favorite fruit. It tastes good. Yeah.

Smelly brains taste good. Some people don't like it. But if you like it it's it's one of the favorites so so so that one for sure um number four and i think i would pull in the king of all mushrooms this is a this is a royalty we're talking about you're taught you just asked the superfood you just asked the superfood you just asked the superfood hunter yes what you're gonna bring in so i would bring in the king of all mushrooms and that is chaga mushrooms and and i named my dog chaga so there you go the reverence

that i have for chaga mushrooms the probably the most highest antioxidant uh uh whole compound uh mushroom in the world um so it's gonna keep i'm on this desert island i'm definitely gonna keep my immune system cranking i'm gonna keep the cortisol levels uh low i'm gonna keep my endocrine system balanced. So I'm going to sip on chaga tea all day, every day. Wow. Okay. And number five, and where can we get that? Chaga mushrooms everywhere. I mean, Taro at Four Sigmatic has a dual extracted chaga. You can also get chaga. There's a great company, Rose Mountain Herbs, that does a lot of harvesting well and you can get the full chunks of chaga and you can simmer that for hours and hours and hours and keep that just similar as a tea yep you drink it as a tea you can add cacao with it a little sweetener it's decadent and

delicious wow okay King of mushrooms chaga mushrooms mushrooms, and number five? Yeah. Number five, let me see. I would probably pick, I'm going to go back to the adaptogens. It is a berry, sweet, sour, bitter, pungent, and salty, have all five flavors. In one berry? In one berry. What's it called? Called schizandra. Schizandra. If you want to name your first child, it's called schizandra. How do you spell that? Oh man, there's a few different spellings, but it's S-C-H-I-Z-A-N-D-R-A, something like that. Schizandra berry. Berry. So it's this beautiful berry that grows in some

sovereign areas near Tibet and the eastern area of China. I've been there. You've picked the berries and eaten them raw. I've absolutely picked the berries and eaten them raw. You can ferment and make even a decadent little wine out of it i've celebrated with the the the remote china people in that area with schizandra celebrations when they've harvested it so it it is and it traditional chinese medicine it has been used probably the is one of the oldest in record adaptogenic herbs that traditional Chinese medicine use. And they use it as kind of a base because it's so well balanced and it balances out your body over time, both in stress response, cortisol, endocrine, overall strength, and then, of course, stress. But if you're on an island, you don't have to worry about it

unless some animals are going to come and right jump on you so i think that's it man i think that's i'm beautiful with eating that and sipping on that and eating those berries okay those are the five main things you would eat okay so for how many of these do you actually have on a regular basis i have all of those on a regular basis almost for sure weekly i accept durian okay i i have a hard time getting durian myself unless i'm in you know in southeast asia at some point bali or then you're getting it a lot then i'm getting then then i'm overloading i'm paying someone to to go get it to go for sure and then that's my breakfast every day wow yep so for the rest of the humans what would be a starter kit to start optimizing your health where should we think about in terms of our health if we're a little bit overweight

or not feeling the way we want to? How would we start to assess our health to get on a better path for a journey moving forward? In terms of, I mean, everything you covered in this book, Super Life, but also in Down to Earth, you cover a lot of things in there. What would be the kind of starter kit, you think, from that journey? Well, you cover a lot of things in there. What would be the kind of starter kit, you think, from that journey?

Well, you can say the normal things of like, there's a lot. I mean, that's a big question because, you know, making sure you're sleeping well. Sleep, yeah. Making sure you're turning off your electronics. Making sure you're doing those things. Which is also like, it would take me 30 minutes to even unpack all of what that is. But then I would go to water. Of course, water is a big thing.

And so water – Which was the most fascinating episode I think you guys had. Yeah, it was pretty great. And that was one half of 1% of what water is. Wow. And I've studied water. Like I've studied and I've been shoulder-to-shoulder with some of like I four days in Bulgaria at a water conference with some of the greatest researchers of living

today doing research that will blow your mind on water so so not all water is created equal not at all and water but water is influenced by everything so So everything it's around, our field, our energetic field, our frequencies, the electronics, the pipes it's going through, or in nature. Victor Schauberger, incredible researcher and observer of nature, and watched and was one of the first people to understand the vortative nature of water that it doesn't move in a straight line it's flowing it's flowing and like a snake or vortexing and that is structuring it plus the electromagnetic field naturally of this big battery that we sit on which is the earth and then the the uh influence of the fields of the sun right uh is is creating electrolysis so it's helping as well as chelating the minerals so all of that being said it's structuring the water and so that is a live water with high oxygen, high amount of hydrogen and essential minerals. So now what you're really talking about is you're talking about a conductive live force that you're taking in because we are 70 trillion batteries.

We are an electrical being. in batteries we are an electrical being same with like and then so so water deconstruct the water and then build the water back up because unless you can find your own spring that's number one if it's clean and it doesn't have pesticides or herbicides or runoff or whatever weird chemicals we've put into our world right we have 90000 new chemicals being emitted in our world every year. Of that, 9% is tested. So that is on our planet, in our waterways. So that being said, I want to make sure that people understand, if you have fresh, clean, alive spring spring water that's the best hmm but

it's very hard how much springs are there in America exactly and are and you know so for most of us very hard to have access is there such a thing as clean water that can make you sick well that's a very interesting question of course on one on the one hand but there is no water that is the same and there's no water isn't 100% clean unless your reverse osmosis and distillation is probably your best bet to make sure that nothing's traveling in it but they absolutely have energetic fields that are influencing the water so dr emoto's work when he you know took um x-ray or he took uh photographs of the geometry of water when they put love on a bottle and all of that stuff that work has been proliferated by scientists all over the world and dr luke montier

did a dna test of of physical dna and water and then a glass next to it and it just being in proximity the physical dna transmitted the frequency information in the water next to it as a demon and two different glass jars just by being in proximity yeah so it picked up the energetic fingerprint of the DNA that was in the one glass. The point to that is, yeah, that's how, think of water as an empty hard drive. If we put an empty hard drive right here and we plugged in our computers, would it decipher or would it reject input that you would have or i would have we could put completely different things it would just accept whatever information we're saying exactly water is the same thing no absolutely so physically uh chemically biologically and quantumly they're showing that that water is being influenced by all of those things and they believe and they're already working on this that a droplet of water

is equal to a lot to a to enabling to be able to have and store the amount of hard drives it would take to fill up this room in one droplet of water. The amount of what? The energy? The amount of water that you could infuse and store information. Just one droplet? One droplet as much as the room we're sitting in. How is that possible? I don't know how it's possible. But this is what they're discovering.

Here's the thing of all of those who's they just so i'm aware so so i attended so dr jerry pollock you should have them on dr gerald pollock or jerry pollock he wrote a book called the fourth phase of water now we're getting into it heavy right here right so i'm having to pull back because our whole episode would be about water right though yeah but gerald pollock discovered that there's what's called and now he's influenced the way all researchers are looking at water because he discovered a fourth phase of water what's the first three phases? Well, the first phases is water, liquid, steam, right? And then ice, of course, right? And so fourth phase, and I'm going to try to make this

very simple. What he discovered was when water came up against a hydrophilic surface, meaning that it was not accepting water, just it wasn't... Bouncing off. Yeah, bouncing off. So it's coming up a cell... Yeah, so if it came up against this and it just didn't infuse itself right in,

or a cell, so he was looking at a cell membrane, which is essentially fatty acids. He discovered that that through microscope there was a zone that the water pushed the electrons and protons away from each other what does that mean means that it demonstrated battery-like activity. It created polarity when it came up against this, it created, this is going to blow your mind, it created energy by just coming

up to that, by pushing those electrons away from each other. And this was called, which he termed an exclusion zone. Within that tiny band, the protons and electrons, battery-like activity, there was distillation water. Essentially, it created clean water. So water that goes up against this mug. Yeah. Inside.

Potentially. Could go against it and create this. So that was monumental because what that shows us is when you are hydrated and it's interacting with cells that literally create energy of every cell of the 70 trillion plus cells we have. So literally, and you look through the research, what is the number one consequence of dehydration? Overall fatigue. Look it up. Being tired. Bingo.

Look it up. Being tired. Bingo. And you now add on top of it, Lewis, nearly about 7%, so let's call it 10%, about 30 million people in the United States do not drink an ounce of water a day. Really? Swear. Wait, how many people? Nearly 30 million people.

Don't drink water. Don't drink an ounce of water a day. They're just drinking Coke. So you wake up, you reach out, you're like, oh, I'm fatigued. I reach out for the stimulant. I reach out for the coffee. I reach out for whatever. So they're drinking water in different forms, but they're drinking Coke or coffee. Exactly.

Or juice or something else and they're probably not eating any fresh fruits or vegetables which actually has this exclusion zone water in it already so when you're eating fruit nature has already sorted it so you actually can get quite hydrated by the watermelon by the fresh oranges by the apples by the things by the grapes by the so so so that's that's a tight so gerald pollock created a water conference i think it's 15 years going and i was at the 2018 in bulgaria so in between us filming i we were all over the place for three and a half months and i said screw it i'm going to this water conference you were filming and you left, we were all over the place for three and a half months. And I said, screw it. I'm going to this water conference.

You were filming and you left. Well, we had two weeks where we had a break before we were going to our next location. So I took off to Bulgaria. You're already in Europe. So I said, I'm hanging out with the smartest people in the world. I couldn't even follow 10% of the heavy, heavy science that they were getting into. But I met a lot of incredible researchers to the point where I'm creating vortexing machines and jugs and stuff to be able to create exclusion water and to create live water again. So I have some of that stuff from researchers from that conference that I'm bringing

out in the world. So water deadens as it's going through our pipes. It loses that energy, that exclusion zone, that type of live energy. So essentially, we're drinking, even though it's clean, we need to clean it. RO, reverse osmosis with distillation, add a pinch of Himalayan crystal salt. Make sure that you're creating it and you're looking through the lens of voltage. Our bodies are alive. It's electrical. It's voltage. Cells work through voltage. When we get injured, our body increases cellular voltage to increase healing potential. And that could be looked at as pH. That in the body is looked at as pH.

And a lot of people don't realize that is just the measurement in that form of voltage. So when you look at water, you need to make it alive again so that it's conductive and so that your body doesn't have to steal things from inside and zap your energy so if i take live water boom it's going to go into my cells and it's going to allow for hydration to increase so anyway that's a tiny bit but i spent a lot of time uh with those guys and that's a it's a deep rabbit, even in the show. We chose to go into Lourdes and just talk about something's going on with water. So for 99% of people who get bottled water, they drink out of a tap, maybe they have a glass jug that comes to them once a week whatever

like myself 99 of america and probably the world 99.9 what can they do to make their own water more alive more efficient more optimized is there a way when you have just bottled water or water to tap to do this yourself at home the first thing is clean clean it on a deep level. So you want to reverse osmosis or distillation. Some type of filter. Yeah, but these are RO is a type of membrane that doesn't allow for anything to get through. Got it. And distillation is liquid vaporization reconstitute again. So nothing gets to carry with it so you're cleaning it now

very important not to just drink that water okay because now you need the electrolytes you have to have the electrolytes so there's some electrolyte companies out there most are kind of not okay so easiest thing for people to do unrefined salt crystal salt himalayan salt a pinch per glass a half a teaspoon per gallon will now create a conductive thing now make sure you just buy this filter you can get these things for a few hundred bucks eliminate plastic which filter what's so called so i even have a discount for people. So Aqua True is a great reverse osmosis. So if you go to DarrenLean.com and my affiliates, they give all people who want to order that like $150 off. It's not even meant to plug. It's just great that people get a hell of a discount.

And for a few hundred bucks, you've eliminated your need to go outside your home. Aqua True. Aqua True. And you put the water through that or it's in like a yeah you you pour it in the back and then it goes through an ro system wow boom comes out right there and then you put the salt in it afterwards boom put the salt in it and that's good drinking water now that's good so now i would also take it up a notch buy like they're gonna love me uh i i get nothing from this blue bottle love so now they've took

emotos work and they've written gratitude love etched it in the crystal glass right and they've created cobalt blue which some of the science has shown that that blue that deep blue, is the frequency of healthy cells. So now you've got the etched words that is infusing that. And you can take those bottles and put that in the sun. And now you're supercharging. Should water be in the sun? If it's in glass, it can be. If it's in plastic. If it's in plastic, you are leaching the many chemicals.

Keep in mind, plastic is petroleum. It's oil. And then to make it malleable, they use a mimicking compound that mimics estrogen. So the softer a plastic, run away from. The harder. Better. or BPA free, right? That's okay. That's better, right? Glass, glass, glass, as much as you can. Hard plastic, pretty much okay. Yeah. Right. Um, so that's an easy way. And then when I get some of these Vortators out, these things are incredible. How do we get one of those?

It's coming soon. Probably when this is out, I'll have them available. Okay. Yeah. So you put it through the Vortator? So yeah. So you literally, it's all mathematics, this little Vortator. And it's literally spinning.

It's creating a tornado in your water and increasing oxygen which we need helps the immune system helps the body helps the absorption activates mitochondria all that stuff and then you're increasing the hydrogen comp uh as well let's just say you're uh making the let's just say you're you don't have all this and you you a plastic bottle right now, a soft plastic bottle, normal bottle that you see everywhere. Can you swirl it and oxygenate it yourself and get some benefits? Something. I would shake it up, make it alive.

Shake it. Yeah. And buy it, get a marker and put love on it. You think that's going to change within 10 seconds? Putting love on a bottle is going to make it that much more magnetic listen it's an intention to of course absolutely right so so think about this if I've intended it now I've also intended it for my own body what are we we're mostly water so if that is my intention that is a prayer and that is activated that is not passive little just doing whatever that is activating for sure

so listen everything health is not magic bullets it's not the perfect superfood it's everything it is the small things added up over time it It is setting your mark, the one degree, the next degree, the next degree, and setting your trajectory, right, towards what you want. So you don't have to get overwhelmed with this. Just adopt what you can. What resonates now now adopt that and then as you become healthier more activated more energy more all then you'll be like you'll naturally go okay cool now what okay cool now what okay cool let me eat more more plants you know that's another thing i would just say eat more plants yes just start increasing the amount of diversification of colors

in your life because that is information for your body information reductionism i can go into it's got compounds each color is a phenolic compound it's an antioxidant each other color operates a different antioxidant or tannin or everything else all you have to remember is it's beautiful diversification that's giving you different minerals different vitamins different antioxidants and different information right for your body and also when it's fresh vegetables, you're getting that structured water. That's information. That's nature communicating directly to you through that water.

What do you say to the, I'm hearing you say, eat more plants. There seems to be a thesis and a trend that is becoming more of the only eat meat. It's the purest protein. trend that is becoming more of the only eat meat it's the purest protein people getting super shredded and lean saying they have cleared up skin conditions saying they're more focused clear uh what's the what's your take on that for the people that are swear by the the meat only no vegetables no fruits just meat i'm scared for them i really am um to me that's insane and unfortunately all this stuff is political i never take those political stance there's a lot of great people that take those those because the reason i say political because scientifically t colin campbell

china study came out with another one the The Future of Nutrition. Goes through the hundred years of compromised research and dogmatic around animal protein is the perfect protein. It's a bunch of bullshit. You can get all of the nutrients from plants. Every single one of them. So I would say if anyone's curious check out t colin campbell's new book the future of nutrition you'll blow your mind also look at uh uh uh what is actually the culprit. And the culprit is animal protein. The science is absolutely clear. Once you're over

10% protein, you are turning on cancer genes. Wow. Right. and it's clogging up those receptors for insulin so you can argue all you want and these guys will put all the science but these guys t colin campbell realize the the 60 years of research on every major panel peer-reviewed everything and this guy has dedicated his life to he is of anyone on the planet he's done more research around animal-based protein than anyone ever wow and then you have dr walter longo who's in our sardinia episode sit down with him between episodes and i'm like he's like the science is clear he's saying the same thing over 10 15 boom what does that mean over 10 50 percent of your overall calories of animal-based protein if you're eating more than 15 of animal protein daily of your overall calories of your calories yep it's turning on cancer genes

wow so listen these guys you're if you change anything up your body's we we have proven this is what we've proven the body is adaptive it doesn't mean it's the right thing to do i can get myself you know how many ways i can get myself shredded to 5% body fat? Not eat, yeah, meat, this, that. I can do a million different. No sugar, yeah. Back when I was out of college, I trained bodybuilders just to get them that little extra. So I can manipulate all kinds of things to get people shredded what the hell

does that have to do with health nothing especially when you're running down you're sprinting towards cancer wow like obviously there's people that are heavy into this they're friends they're colleagues and i read their material so for for me, there is no amount. You can keep whatever it is that you want. You don't need to change. I'm not here to change anyone. Anyone listening to this, do what you want. I'm not here to change you.

It doesn't, nothing shows. I have proven as a career, 20 years of running around this planet, every nutrient I can find in a plant and thrive and have pleomorphic effect, having infinite effect on my body, way more than a very hard thing to digest. Flesh of another being is extremely difficult to break down. And that is if you're dialed in, if your body is perfect and it's got the certain amount of hydrochloric acids, it's got a certain amount of protease enzymes to break all that down. All of these things and a whole lot more has to be ideal because it's not going to do

it perfectly so it is a huge strain on the body not to mention it floods the body with the immune response when you're taking in because you've just taken in something that's dead in your body the body has to respond pathogens bacteria might you know um that microbial and immune response has to show up so your first response is your body's like holy shit there's a lot of opportunity to die here wow right so not to mention this other point and then you know it's a big rabbit hole this other point, and then, you know, it's a big rabbit hole. This other point that I realized when I first started, I've always loved animals. That wasn't the primary reason, although it lines up with me because I don't want to kill anything. My primary thing was realizing that amino acids in our human DNA is extremely valuable. Because we're recycling cells all the time.

Yeah. The whole body is recycling all the time. Certain the liver is going through, I think, you know, people have to fact check this, but I think it's every week or every couple of weeks. So there's the body's replacing itself. And so when you're, when autophagy is happening, your body is sloughing off cellular debris that it no longer needs. Your body is breaking down those cells to have amino acids and it's recycling the amino acids. Because it doesn't want to get rid of all the amino acids because it's so hard to come by.

So their body is recycling and replacing and all of this stuff all the time so that the the need for protein is so gotten so crazy without this understanding of recycling that the body also has and then when you add on top of it turning on through very clear science um esselstein ornish drnish, Dr. Michael Greger, and then, of course, T. Colin Campbell, on and on and on. These guys are just sitting in the science non-dogmatically. You add all that up, I don't need it. And then add up my career, I found all the great plants i've found all the not all because humbly we haven't found anything which is why we need to preserve our environment because there's so much medicine as food out there that we're just utterly destroying um so all of that being said

i just say do whatever you want but be aware yeah eat more plants yeah and carnival guys i it's like i'm not even gonna waste energy you've already decided there's no conversation you've decided i don't want to argue about it i i just want to live and thrive and when did you stop eating meat it's probably 16 15 16 years ago yeah and did you see a big shift in your energy and everything else yeah my my you know football players eat a lot of meat a lot of a lot of all that stuff trained like crazy meat i was getting digestive you know uh acid reflux. And I started like, whoa.

And then I started food combining. That was the first time I kind of separated. Like, I'm going to eat fruit alone because it shows digestively much better. I'm going to eat if I'm now. So that's going to be alone. So I'm not going to combine that with my meals. Now I'm going to eat my meals. I'm going to eat my protein first. So that has the first chance of the hydrochloric acid breakdown

um so then i that was the first time i really separated stuff and then i was like i feel better definitely helping and then i was slowly then i got rid of you know the beef beef, the chicken. I, too, was like, shut off the idea that this was a living creature. It's hard, yeah. You have to go someplace to do, because if you were there cutting and slitting the throat, I guarantee you're going to need it. Yeah. So then I started, and then fish, then I slowly,

and then I was like, see, all the while I'm feeling better. So finally then I dive back into seeing that recycling side of the amino acids in the body. I'm like, I don't think we need as much. So I stopped the fish as the last thing. And then I increased. So I was doing triathlons and biathlons as well as strength training still. And this was, you know, only 15, 16 years ago. And so then I was like i'm

recovering like a like a 18 year old really yeah and to this day like you know the kind of people i work out with yeah so i'm like i still pick up dumbbells i was training with when i was 20 and i'm just like the strength and i'm not trying to be strong anymore but i'm throwing around the strength is still it's incredible it's really incredible yeah for those that are going to this is interesting food uh separation for those that are uh like everything you're saying and understand uh but they're going to keep eating meat. It's just, they're going to keep eating meat. It's too bad.

I eat meat and I keep telling myself, being out here for 10 years, the vegans and the plant-based have been influencing me to eat more and more vegetables than maybe one day. And I'm more mindful and conscious of it, but maybe one day, we'll see. Hey, I got a challenge for you.

I joined this other, so hashtag eight meals. Okay, so we've done this carbon sequestering, and if you substitute eight meals a week, that's literally one plus two on a day. One a day. Vegetarian. Yeah, vegan. Vegan. One a day. Vegetarian. Yeah. Vegan.

Vegan. No dairy either. No eggs or cheese. Nope. Nope. Man, I love those eggs. I know. But you're also not depriving.

So that's why I jumped on to help these people because it's only looking at it as these meals. And then now you're being a responsible person. Not only is it benefiting your health, you're getting diversification of more plants, for sure you're going to be, that's a win, right? And it's going right to the environment. Because if everyone did that, we would sequester all of the CO2 in the United States. Think about that. Think about that. Replacing eight meals. Replacing eight meals. A week. You do it, I do it, and everyone else do it. You know how much, and we're going to create a calculator of how much CO2 we can sequester. Wow.

Because that's just an insane thing. The amount of methane. So that makes more sense. I mean, saying eight meals a week, vegetarian, that's more doable for people. Plant-based. Plant-based, sorry. Yeah. So not vegetarian.

No. Plant-based. No cheese or egg. Full food, plant-based. So no dairy and eggs either. Vegetables and fruits only, and seeds and sorry. Yeah. So not vegetarian? No. Plant-based. Full plant-based. No cheese or egg. Full food plant-based. So no dairy and eggs either. Vegetables and fruits only and seeds and nuts.

Yeah. That's it, okay. And it's so easy too. You can do it. Yeah, you can do it. Yeah, for sure. So eight meals a week is something to get started to try. See how you feel.

I'm gonna throw that on you. I'm gonna see if you're gonna take that challenge. I'll be able to do that, yeah. I can do anything for a week. No, I'm saying like keep that up. Oh, forever. See how it goes in that week. We try for 30 days. You wanna do anything for a week. No, I'm saying like keep that up. Oh, forever. See how it goes in that week. We try for 30 days. You want to do that?

I can do it for 30 days. Are you putting that on there? I'm in. I'll do it for 30 days. Yeah. Awesome. Eight meals a week for 30 days. Yes.

Plant-based. Oh, my. I can do that. Nice. So, my question about separating food. I'm curious. In Ohio and Minnesota, you grow up, you just mash it all together, you eat it all down. Mashed potatoes, the veggies, the steak, the pizza, you just throw it all in.

Is there more power in eating certain foods first or last or separating them as opposed to combining? 100%. How should we eat then? What should be first and last well should it be the protein first because can you say something yeah so so I this is a simple version because this can get heavy the simple version is fruit alone so don't eat fruit with a meal do not eat why because it takes other digestive enzymes when you start and and hydrochloric acids. When you, especially if you have digestive issues, it can mess up different rates. So, for example, when you're eating fruit, the digestion process, aside from chewing. So, don't put peanut butter or almond butter on your fruits.

Listen, listen, I do that too. I put baruca nut oh i'm gonna send you something i wish i had sad some with me because of course i would have brought it um it is so good but i do so so this is this is something if people i would say this if people are having any digestive issues at all then i would do this for a period of time fruit alone now listen i love a brook of butter on a piece of apple like oh my god it's the best right so that's fine but if you're having any digestive issues fruit alone and then if you are choosing let's call it a protein. Because if you eat fruit alone, your body should just be able to digest and get that out quickly.

Yeah, so if you're eating fruit, aside from chewing, because that's the digestive process, you have digestive enzymes called amylase that's breaking down the carbohydrates. So that's why we need to chew more, not chew, chew, chew, swallow. That seems to be my life. Right? Yeah. Swallow. One might get more in life. Right? Yeah. Just swallow. One might get more in there.

Very difficult for the body to... I used to have digestive problems for a long time. Probably like 20 years. It wasn't until actually I started to get Invisalign about a year and a half ago. Because my back teeth have actually never touched. I got eight teeth removed when I was 17. And then my jaw kind of grew in a certain way where only my front two teeth touched. I got eight teeth removed when I was 17. And then my jaw kind of grew in a certain way where my only my front two teeth touched and my never felt my back teeth until about four months ago touching. And it's been mind blowing. How have I been able to digest and actually not feel

constipated? Sure. Most of the time I've been able to, because I'm actually able to chew my food. That's amazing. And I'm feeling like it's able to chew my food. That's amazing. And I'm feeling like it's able to go to the bathroom way easier. Like it's crazy when adjusting teeth have done for my ability to digest as well. Yeah. Think about that. I mean, it's the most primal thing we need to do for our, for our breaking down of food. But if we're pre, you know, if we're not chewing 20 30 times per bite you're

swallowing whole food and expecting this very delicate digestive process to pull have enough time to pull all of that stuff to break it down because it has to break down like think of think of like the protein the animal-based protein you got to break it down into the amino acids yeah yeah and that's a lot of energy to do that and so it's all food so we really have to take responsibility or responsibility to to that's a first line of digestive defense is chewing more appropriately and and not allowing that process to be just chew, chew, chew through stress. And not to mention what you're doing while you're eating is also- The intention behind why you're eating, yeah.

The vagus nerve is connected directly to the brain and the digestive process and the like. So if you're stressed, you're going to throw off the microbial system and- That's why people pray before they eat or they say let's give thanks gratitude yeah do do some nose breathing right drop you right down into parasympathetic even uh uh dr huberman the neuroscientist talks about this to take a two breath in so i would say breathe out yeah we had a mom talking about that. It's really good. A little gratitude. And then eat.

Then eat. So the separation. Let's get back to the separation. What should it be? You've got a mixture of foods on your plate. Okay, so let's call it a protein. So let's say... So burritos are the worst thing. It can be challenging. If you're already compromised, that's a challenge. Our let's say. So burritos are the worst thing. It can be challenging.

If you're already compromised, that's a challenge. Like our body's adaptive. So burrito is one of my favorite foods. So good, man. But you got the rice, you got the beans, you got the protein, you got the cheese, you got the tortilla wrap. It's like. Yeah. So listen, unfortunately for anyone eating meat, it's a really bad combination.

Right? Any plant-based protein is a lot easier for the body to break down. Even nuts, seeds, legumes, whatever, it's a lot easier to break down. Plus, everything, let's just say this, every plant, every fruit, every vegetable has protein in it. Everything. vegetable has protein in it everything your banana your acai your grapes it is a full it is a whole food right so we have to stop this compartmentalizing and reductionism protein and then vegetables right so so if you are eating meat and all of that stuff, meat first. Like if it's on a, let's say you have a salmon on a salad, eat all your salmon first.

Don't eat the carbs first. Don't eat the, no, don't eat the salads and don't eat the, certainly don't eat the damn bread. Right? But as you... Meat first, what does that do? Yeah, so that gets you back into that dominance of hydrochloric acid and energy that the body takes and the longevity that it will take for your body to break down the meat, right? It's going to take six to eight hours for that other being that you just consumed to break down into amino acids, right? So put the thing that's the hardest to digest in first. Yes.

And then you can follow it up with veggies and all of that stuff. Potatoes, whatever you're putting in there. Right, right. So that's the easy version of just... Meat first. Yeah. If you're... Fruit alone.

If you're plant-based, what would you eat first? Again, fruit alone. And then I don't worry much about it. You can mix it all in. It's all plants. Right. Or for me, if I'm eating tempeh, which is fermented tofu, I'll eat that first. Yeah.

But listen, I'm coming from that where I had a lot of issues because of all the heavy meat. When I started breaking that down, cleared it up immediately. Now, since plant-based, I've never had that ever again, the digestive disruption and stuff like that. And so what do you speak to when the meat eaters of the world who swear by meat say, well, this is what our ancestors have been doing for thousands of years? That's an easy point of view. if you talk to the paleolithic researchers that's that's that's such a

convenient conclusion that's not true that you can you know run up to the inuits because that that is that is where they've been living and then use that as some stupid example. Well, just because you've adapted to it doesn't mean that it's ideal. We have to keep going back to that. Just because the body is an amazing adaptive machine, which has allowed us to, you know, populate anywhere and everywhere and eat almost anything doesn't mean that it's adaptive. Now, if you look at the longevity research, if you look at centurions, and if you look at that, I would lean on that more than I would lean on a convenient way to say, because you can easily make

the argument. The diversification of the big brain also was the foraging ability you're finding without less effort foraging plants and tubers and nuts and seeds way more than it takes to you getting a little clan together and running down a uh you know a caribou or something you know so it's setting a trap or something it's just too convenient to say things like that don't i mean it's the centurions eat meat some of them eat meat very little yeah it's mostly fish or yeah eggs here and there yeah something. Yeah, so it could be, you know, I've talked to some of the centurions and so the work of Dr. Longo and Dr. Pez and Dan Buettner's work, you'll find that again...

The blue zones. Yeah, you'll find very, very clearly that it's naturally 10 to 15%, they don't go over, and it's so interesting... 10 to 15% meat. Of... Calorie intake. Calorie intake for protein they don't go over and it's it's so interesting to set meat of calorie intake calorie intake for protein and once once is meat or no it just protein

oh wow and and every so often they may have meat but it's not a daily thing no maybe once a month kind of a thing so so it's it's that again it's like i look at that longevity and what the longevity shows up as the to to say that you knew what the paleolithic people were doing is we have ran around this globe and we've all thrived and we have all different ethnicities and to say this overarching statement is kind of ridiculous cheers oh man um you look you're passionate about this huh of course yeah and you actually say this in your simple to-do list get no the more than about 50 of daily total calories from protein that's the first line you have here from your simple to-do list.

You just opened that up. That's pretty funny. The first thing, you went right to that line. Maybe that's on every page as a reminder. Make sure you only do this. What happens if we get 80% of our total calories from protein? Is it just creating more cancerous cells? Is that what I'm hearing you say?

Well, yeah. So, I mean, that's the work of T. Colin Campbell and Longo and a bunch of other people. And that's where you turn on. So this is the epidemiology side of it. This is the DNA. What we're doing, the environment we're creating is turning on potentials of DNA or turning them off. And so what happens is it turns on these cancer promoting genes very clearly like people can argue with me all you want i'm not going to argue with you

i'm going to point you to these guys that have dedicated their life to this research unbiased they're they're researchers and what they're doing is they're pushing back against industry that wants to keep this narrative alive. And they're not looking at the research. It's the same thing of us saying right now, the censorship that's happening. Like, why do we need to censor anything? Just let it out and let people as intelligent people. It's like coming to you and saying you know what cars kill don't go into your car today well you can make that choice you know that you could get

in a car accident and you could get hurt or injured or die but you're making that choice so let's get all of the information that t. Colin Campbell, that's what he's saying. That Dr. Ornish, Dr. Estelson, all of these guys are saying, look at the research. Don't shut this off. Look at what this research is. And that's the dogma that keeps alive. If you're not open-minded to look at the research, then let's not argue about it. I don't want to waste my energy.

I don't want to waste my energy. I don't want to talk to, like, if you want to fight, like, fight with yourself against that wall. Like, I don't want to do it. What's your thoughts about, in your mind, what's worse? Meat or sugar? Meat or sugar? Meat. Hands down. meat hands down well i mean what do you mean by sugar because if i'm assuming you're sugar

yeah i would i would i would allow if i am not clogging my cholesterol is still a debate cholesterol let's be clear cholesterol and meat is not correlated to high cholesterol and you and killing you it is the protein okay so i would gamble and and the protein is gobbling up and challenging the insulin receptors and running us towards diabetes. And Robbie and Cyrus in Mastering Diabetes lay this out scientifically. The third of their book is science, right? Peer-reviewed. I would gamble on not eating meat and taking in sugar more than I would. I do not want to play that Russian roulette game.

No way. But sugar, it seems like, also is causing a lot of sickness. Of course, you gave me two horrible, I mean, two challenges. But if you're, for sure, I'll take sugar, for sure. Really? Yep. Is sugar easier to burn off or it's not as damaging to the body and your mind as eating meat? Yeah, for sure really yep is sugar easier to burn off or it's not as damaging to the body in your mind as eating yeah i mean yeah for sure i mean it's it's like if i have a healthy if i'm not

being compromised for meat in my insulin reception reception uh then then i'm gonna i'm gonna gamble on all the other things that i can do in the sugar realm and I can stay active I can burn that off yeah I can keep plants active I can keep the stress down from that plants I can keep you know bring in my schizandra bring in my chaga bring in my ashwagandha bring in my reishi bring in my lion's mane to help the brain deal with the amount of sugar you know I mean? So there's a lot of other artillery I could use to combat the sugar side of it. And what about fasting? What's your views on that? I love fasting. Are you an intermediate fasting guy? Are you a 24, 48 hour, one week fast? What's your strategy? I'm a big fan of fasting for sure. And Dr. Bragg's way back, I will give kudos to him. His first books on fasting. I was fasting.

When I started fasting, it was 20, 22 years ago or so. And I was doing one day, 36 hour fast. 36 hour fast so i would pick a friday and i would you know stop eating the thursday all day friday and start eating on saturday because i wanted energy on the weekends yeah and and i love now that i know i just call it fast water fast right um i do love big windows. So now I'm a two-meal-a-day person. Okay. So I'm a huge amount of fruit, fruit bowl in the morning, around 10. And then I'll eat around 4 p.m. That's my second meal. And that's tons of plants, big salads, baruca nuts.

Hell, maybe I'll even make a burrito, right? And combine it all. And then you're done. Then I'm done, yeah. Five o'clock, you're done. You stop eating until 10 a.m. Fruit. My friend Jesse Itzler is all about that.

He says fruit until noon. Yeah. I win on that. So I used to, and this was back when I was fasting, in that 36 hours every week. So I was doing 36 hours every week. And in that, when I was during the day, I would do all fruit until noon. But now I do that anyway. I just don't eat until 10.

And then I do a huge, like a massive fruit bowl. I get different people on who dive into the science, who are doing the test. Dr. Rhonda Patrick talked about the spike of sugar when she had a grape, because I think she's wearing a glucose monitor somewhere and testing this. And other doctors talking about

how to really make sure you have moderation in fruit because of how it can spike certain things. Again, I don't know all the science and I'm not the expert here. Can you speak into that from your perspective on why having a lot of fruits or a bowl of fruit is good for you and not spiking energy levels and not doing that based on what their scientific research is saying? that based on what their scientific research is saying.

You know, again, there's a lot of experts around this category too that I would lean on. But when you, it depends on what you've been doing. If you are a keto person, for example, you are eating all this meat, which are stopping up your ability for insulin reception when you stop that you you look at a grape and your insulin's gonna spike you you've changed and damaged your metabolism right so but if you're doing that on a consistent basis your body's regulating more potentially but if you're eating meat if you're eating a ton of meat you're you're doing that on a consistent basis, your body's regulating more. Potentially. But if you're eating meat, if you're eating a ton of meat, you're challenging.

You are going to spike more than I would. I've used glucose monitors. I eat a bowl of fruit and I'm like. Really? Yeah. I can eat four or five bananas. You know, look at mastering diabetes. It will blow your mind.

These guys are type 1 diabetic. Robbie just posted the other day. He ate, I think it was breadfruit, four bananas, mangoes. These guys are type 1 glucose monitoring to the max and getting thousands of people down and off. Type 1 off medication. It is what you're doing, not just at that time. Again, we're myopic in our views. What is the chemistry of going on in the body? If you're eating a bunch of meat,

you're gonna spike more when you're eating a bunch of fruit. When you have fruit, it's gonna spike more. My body is dialed it's dialed to the fruit how long how long would it take for someone to get more dial okay i mean they can they can uh robbie so it's it's it's it's we gotta look at a wider view of all of this stuff because you could of course i can go run out and find see they spiked they spiked yeah but what have they been doing for the last month do we have that information is it accurate is it there's so much going on plus you know there's all this uh new research biomes a great company that's doing all this microbiological research into like what's your

system like because you're taking a snapshot of what you've been doing and what your microbes are set up as if it's set up for flesh of another being and meat and all of that stuff every time it's true though let's let's call it out i get it man right it's it that's what it is and so or if it's plant-based stuff then your microbes are changing it's an environment that you are creating by what you're putting in your mouth and this is very important for this day and age right now you are creating a terrain that is going to invite pathogens or invite it out because if if you are strengthening yourself, vitamin D, vitamin K, vitamin A, vitamin C, whole plants, diversifications of tannins and phenolic compounds and antioxidants, clearly that's creating a terrain that is stronger for your immune system to thwart out disease, bacteria, cancer, all of that other stuff. But if you're shoveling anything and you believe that, you know, a needle is going to save your

life, it can't. It's never worked that way. Dr. Zach Bush gets into tons of this. You need to have him on if you have him. Dr zach bush so he'll he's starting uh uh and we've talked and changing the narrative of how the body it's like soil systems like monocropping like if you create a soil system that has no more nutrients you have to blow chemicals on it because it's going to get annihilated the same thing with your own microbiological system if you're creating a strong diversified microbiological system that you are in co-host with like it's you're hosting it you need those microbes to break down food it is creating uh it is creating enzymes it is creating vitamins for you. Our microbes are with you. But if you're creating it so that the bad bacteria is dominating, now you've created a terrain you can barely take care of yourself.

You're getting cold. You're fatigued. You're all that stuff. So any other bacteria or virus that comes your way, you're compromised. You can't upgrade your system. You can't take in that information and then go, we all know that the start of life is the inoculation of your mother's vaginal canal. That is the start of your immune system.

We can't sanitize our way through health we cannot right we will kill ourselves we have to have this incredible diversification of microbes and virome and viruses we have to we always have so and that is obviously that's a big topic but and dr bush gets into that quite a bit but that is the the lens that we have to start looking through um to create more of this balanced health because that's where we came from and that's where we need to go a few final questions for i feel like we can go down many rabbit holes here um and you've got a lot of this information in your book, Super Life, The Five Simple Fixes That Will Make You Healthy, Fit, and Eternally Awesome.

So make sure you guys check this out. Very powerful. Supplements. Are you a fan of supplements? If you could only have five supplements a day, what would those be? And do we need supplements if you're getting these other great plant diversity on a daily basis? Food first. Yeah.

Right? The ground, which is why I created this book. These basic tenets of taking care of yourself, sleeping, exercising, diversification of food, exercise, moving your body, having a good attitude, right? The outlook in your life. Side note, growing young. I just interviewed Marta Zarstic, Growing Young. She threw over 600 research articles. The thing that influenced our health and our longevity more than anything was optimism, kindness, community through science.

Wow, that's powerful. This is not a woo-woo thing. Through science. And she's got a great book called Growing Young. I think I'm supposed to be interviewing her soon. Is that right, Guy? I can't remember if we have it already scheduled or if I should connect with her. If you should, I can connect.

She is fantastic. Yeah, okay. We'll have her on. She's a badass. Growing Young, yeah. Growing Young. So that's just as a side. So food first, all of these principles.

So supplements, whole food supplements first. Just like I said, the spirulinas, the whole foods, the careful growing. You know, there is ways of like, okay, we're low in magnesium. We're low in calcium at times. We're low in iron. Those times when you know that your body needs it, when you've tested, when you've tested your microbiological system, when you've tested your blood, then that starts to make sense. But I just go whole food supplements. That makes sense to me. Strengthening because you can go big into understanding that in the early 1900s we knew our soils were depleted

we knew that the food then is depleted we knew this in the 1930s the the agricultural community delineated to congress saying that this happened in the 30s so through monocropping through the crazy way that we're instead of regenerating, we're not, we've depleted. So therefore, I created a career out of finding nutrient-dense whole foods, plants, herbs, botanicals. So I do believe that. Bringing it down to individual vitamins, it makes sense if you're biologically, biochemically in need of those and you've navigated through those things well in the book you talk about these uh five fixes talk about the five fixes uh we got quality nutrition hydration detoxification oxygenation alkalization uh so i want you

guys to get the book so you can learn more about those five things you can do to really optimize your life. There's a question I ask everyone towards the end. It's called the three truths. So I thank you for imagining for a moment it's your last day on earth. Hypothetical question.

Many years from now, you live past 100 or as old as you want to live. And you've accomplished all your dreams from now until then. But for whatever reason, every piece of content you've created, this book and everything else has to go with you to the next place, wherever that is. But you get a piece of paper and you get to write down three things you know to be true from your life and experiences that you would leave behind for the rest of us. These three lessons, principles, distinctions, whatever you want them to be.

What would you say are your three truths? Wow, dude. Big, big question. I know. To thine own self be true. Without a doubt. I listen. I will listen. It's an inside game listen to yourself find the essence

of who you are outside of the monkey mind outside of what people say listen to yourself because that is the ultimate truth because that is connected. There is no person between you and the creator of whatever the creator is, the universe, the creator God. Kindness, connection, love, or, you know, I know those are a bunch, but that community of representations of our heart and the connection, And the connection, well, it goes down to relationships. resentment fear or shame get in the way of authenticity of truth i think that to live by but done through a kind lens right done through in a kind way

through compassion and empathy but but radical honesty within yourself. What is, again, to thine own self be true. So you have to cultivate what that radical honesty is for you. Because some of that is taking away or seeing where another influence, oh, that was my dad, that was my mom, that was my, that was that pain of that relationship. All of that can be distraction. So what is that truth for you as well as for others in relationship

be authentic and truthful? So radical honesty. truthful so radical honesty um third vulnerability the willingness to share yourself with the world if you are willing to be vulnerable it is a superpower without needing to have any approval that is a superpower and untouchable and the ultimate freedom yeah i love that man uh those are good truths it's a powerful truth You've got an amazing podcast people can listen to. Get this book, Super Life. They should watch your series on Netflix with Zac Efron.

Powerful series. It's entertaining and educational, which I think is really inspiring. It's called Down to Earth. And where can we go for your – you also have Baruca Nuts, which I've got here, which are amazing. They're like super food almonds, you know, type of thing. So they can get products from your site.

Where's, where's the best place for your site to learn about everything that you're up to. Yeah. So Texas and all these other things. Yeah. Yeah. So Darren,

Aline.com basically has everything up there. Barucas.com. Get the nuts and see that story.'s a wild food incredible to be able to get a wild food out to the masses is an incredible feat for us and planting trees in the environment and all that's fantastic so but darren lean.com darren lean on social darren lean on twitter all of that stuff yeah um but, there's a bunch of projects I'm super stoked to get out in the world. Environmental, health, inspirational,

new technologies, all of that stuff. So yeah, you can find what I'm up to on there. It's great, man. It's great. I'm inspired, man. You've been leading the way for a long time, helping us by educating traveling the world trying to find this information for yourself obviously but then sharing it with the rest of

us so we can make sense of this world so i acknowledge you for for showing up man consistently decade after decade speaking your truth based on the findings that you've found so i appreciate it uh and hopefully we can do more stuff in the future together and i gotta come to malibu and just have you cook for a day and just let me see how you live your life and like how are you drinking the water everything so i'm gonna come experience it sometime um my final question for you is what's your definition of greatness of course that's a question i i go back to the truths i go back to my definition is listening to my truth and taking action unrelenting on that and that absolutely is greatness. Not stopping. Like before the cameras are on, your example of reaching out to guests for five years until you got them.

That's unrelenting. That's greatness. You're demonstrating it just in this conversation before the thing on that. I'm very much, you know, the competitive nature for me has turned into, I'm clear with helping people, helping the planet, and I will not stop. So unrelenting pursuit has less to do with the things showing up. But if you continue serendipity, magnetism, strength strength and power show up when it knows and the universe is knows without a doubt that this dude is not stopping so let's support him yeah man my man thanks brother appreciate you man thank you thanks man thank you so much for listening to this

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