The School of Greatness - Tony Robbins On The Habits & Skills To Take Back Control Of Your Life! EP 1218
Episode Date: January 21, 2022Today’s guest is Tony Robbins! He’s an entrepreneur, best-selling author, philanthropist, and the nation’s #1 life and business strategist. Over the past four decades, he has empowered more than... 50 million people worldwide through his business and personal development coaching programs and events. He’s written a new book called Life Force: How New Breakthroughs in Precision Medicine Can Transform the Quality of Your Life & Those You Love and he’s also offering a FREE Breakthrough Challenge that focused on helping you take back control of your life this year and develop an Ultimate Breakthrough Challenge. It’s running from Jan 25 – 29, so make sure to sign up now at www.lewishowes.com/tonyIn this episode we discuss the morning routine Tony swears by, how to take back control of your health, the habits of top performers that will help you stand apart, the biggest reason people hold themselves back in life, why finding a purpose bigger than yourself is crucial, and so much more!For more go to: www.lewishowes.com/1218Sign up for Tony's Breakthrough Challenge today: www.lewishowes.com/tony*From time to time we use affiliate links. If you choose to purchase using the links, this does not cost you anything extra, but it helps us generate resources to continue to make impactful content for you. Mel Robbins: The “Secret” Mindset Habit to Building Confidence and Overcoming Scarcity: https://link.chtbl.com/970-podDr. Joe Dispenza on Healing the Body and Transforming the Mind: https://link.chtbl.com/826-podMaster Your Mind and Defy the Odds with David Goggins: https://link.chtbl.com/715-pod
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This is episode number 1,218 with Tony Robbins.
Welcome to the School of Greatness.
My name is Lewis Howes, a former pro athlete turned lifestyle entrepreneur.
And each week we bring you an inspiring person or message
to help you discover how to unlock your inner greatness.
Thanks for spending some time with me today.
Now let the class begin.
Welcome back, my friend.
Today's guest is one of my favorite guests
we've had on the show.
We've brought him back.
His name is Tony Robbins.
He is an entrepreneur, bestselling author, philanthropist,
and the nation's number one life and business strategist. And over the past four decades, he has empowered more than 50 million people worldwide
through his business and personal development coaching programs and events. He's written a
brand new book that I'm so excited about called Life Force, how new breakthroughs in precision
medicine can transform the quality of your life and those you love.
And he's also offering a free breakthrough challenge that's focused on helping you take back control of your life this year
and develop an ultimate breakthrough challenge.
It's running from January 25th through the 29th.
So make sure to sign up now at Breakthrough2022.com.
In this episode, we discuss the exact morning routine Tony swears by that's helped him for
years, how to take back control of your health if you feel like you're going through a breakdown,
the habits of top performers that will help you stand apart, the biggest reason people
hold themselves back in life, why finding a purpose bigger than yourself is so crucial
to joy, happiness,
and fulfillment, and so much more.
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Okay, very excited about this one.
In just a moment, the one and only Tony Robbins.
Welcome back, everyone, to the School of Greatness.
Very excited about our guest.
Tony Robbins is in the house.
Tony, good to see you, my man.
Good to see you again, my friend.
It's been a little while.
I always tell this story every time we do an interview and I don't want to,
for all the new people, because every time we do another interview, there's a lot of new people
here. I want them to know the impact that you've had on my life before we get into this content.
I was a teenager. My dad bought two tickets to one of your live events in St. Louis, Missouri.
It was one of your, I think two or three day kind of multi-speaker events. There was a Superbowl
champions and coaches and Trump was there and Larry King, our friend
Larry King was there and all these different people speaking.
It was my first ever event that I went to as a teenager and he got his tickets right
in kind of the half court line.
It was on a basketball arena in St. Louis.
So kind of imagine the half court line.
We were sitting on the floor and there was a moment when you came out off of stage during a song, which I believe was
Don't Worry, Be Happy.
I don't know if you remember these moments.
You walked down the stage and you walked down the aisle.
And my dad got me right in the aisle because I was a tall guy.
I had long legs.
So I wanted to be on the aisle.
And you stood right next to me.
I'll never forget this.
This was, I don't know, 25 years ago.
Wow.
And you stood next to me. You didn't look at me, but you stood over me. I'll never forget this. This was, I don't know, 25 years ago. And you stood next to me.
You didn't look at me, but you stood over me and you were looking out and speaking to the crowd,
saying some type of message. I don't remember the words you said, but I remember the way you
made me feel. And it opened up something. It opened a breakthrough in me forever from the
energy, the passion, the conviction, the wisdom that you had, that you were teaching during that entire time.
And I just want to, again,
acknowledge you for the consistency you've had
over the legacy of your work
and impacting over 50 million lives around the world
and giving back so much to charity as well.
It's been really inspiring to see the model
that you've created for so many.
So I appreciate it.
Well, thank you.
Thank you for sharing that with me.
And Louis, I'm grateful because I get to take credit for all the great success you've worked
your ass off for. Exactly. Exactly. You did it, but I get to get credit. How cool is that?
Exactly. Well, I know you've done this for so many people around the world. And I'm curious,
a lot of people want to know really behind the scenes of how you do it. And the morning routine
is something everyone's always curious about. I know your morning routine has
evolved and shifted and changed over the years, probably 30 years ago. It might've been a little
bit different than it is today because you've been researching so much about mindset, about
neuroscience, about the body, about nutrition, about all the different medical things that are
out there. Is there something new that you do with your morning routine now that is different then? And what has really helped accelerate your productivity,
your joy, your peace at this level with your morning routine?
Well, I have certain fundamentals that haven't changed. I think I've shared with you before,
the first thing I do every single morning is I go in freezing cold water. And I've shared this
with many people. It's not because I'm a masochist,
but because it moves the lymph of your body, as you well know. And when you jump in, it never feels good to go in, but getting out, you feel incredible. But I do it for a different reason.
I do it to train my brain to say, when I say now, it means now. When I say go, we go. I don't stand
there because it's cold and go maybe in a minute when I'm ready. And I think I've shared with you
before, I don't think I've ever had a morning
I look forward to jumping in that water ever,
but I always do it because I've trained my brain,
this is how we work.
And if you train your brain to do that every single day,
then it'll do it on the more difficult
and important things in life.
But I also then I do my priming,
I think you're familiar with,
which is I do 10 minutes and I pick 10 minutes
because if I said do 20 minutes or 30, I don't have time. But if you is I do 10 minutes and I pick 10 minutes because if I said
do 20 minutes or 30, I don't have time. But if you don't have 10 minutes for your life, you don't
have much of a life. So I do this 10 minute process. And if people want to know it rather
than walk through it right now, they can go to Tony Robbins forward slash priming. There's a
video it's free, but the essence of it is I changed my body radically and I do three things to make
sure that my brain is primed. And what I mean by primed is
most people think their thoughts are their thoughts, Lewis, and you and I know better
because you and I have read the studies, right? Priming is a psychological principle where
you think thoughts and you think they're yours, but very often they're created by the environment.
So one example was Harvard has done multiple studies on this. And one of the studies they did
was taking people, walking up to people.
They hired two actors.
They walked up to 100 people.
They had to do the exact same thing, men and women.
And what they did is they'd walk up with a cup of coffee in their hand.
And they'd look at you and go, here, would you hold this for a second?
And they'd look down and reach in their pocket to pull out their phone.
And most people then take the coffee.
There's nobody there. You're not looking to give it back, right? And then they do what they're doing out their phone. And most people then take the coffee. There's nobody there. You're
not looking to give it back, right? And then they do what they're doing on the phone. They put it
back in. They go, thank you so much. And they take their coffee back and they walk away. But then
about 20 minutes later, if you're at a mall or a school campus or whatever, a person comes by with
a clipboard and they give you $20 and they say, listen, I know this sounds crazy, but if you'll
give me 30 seconds of your time, the $20 is yours. I need, I know this sounds crazy, but if you'll give me 30 seconds
of your time, the $20 is yours. I need you to read two minutes of this, literally this little story,
and then just answer three questions for me. Here's the interesting part. Half the people
have a reaction more than 80% and half have a reaction 80% difference. And here's the question.
They read the same story, but half the people are handed hot coffee, half the people are handed iced coffee. And the question they ask is, how would
you describe the main character of the story? I have to read a few paragraphs. And the people
who are handed hot coffee say the person is warm and genuine. 81% of the people, 79 to 80, 79.8,
it's almost, it's a 1% difference, you know, natural variability,
who are giving the iced coffee say the person is cold and uncaring. I can tell you 20 studies like
that, that would blow your mind how your brain is conditioned or primed by the environment. And
think about all that's gone on with COVID over the last two years, and how many people's brains
live in fear. And in my new health book, I put in there just to remind people with COVID,
outside being 80 years old, the number one, or having four or five comorbidities,
number one factor, 80% of people die of COVID, 79.8% are obese.
That's something you can do something about.
The second factor, according to the CDC, is fear.
Because anxiety makes people get short
of breath, they freak out, and their whole nervous system starts to go shut down. Your immune system
can be shut down just by fear alone. And so this experience of life that we have, most people
just don't understand that you are being primed all the time. And unless you prime yourself,
you're going to be primed by the environment.
Most people understand that your brain right now is being conditioned and triggered whether
you know it or not.
If you're in any social network, it's being done continuously by algorithms.
So I want to take control of my brain.
So I do three quick things.
One, I take three minutes of those ten minutes after I've changed my body and I focus on
three different events in my life that I'm grateful for. I usually pick two big ones and one small one. It could be as
simple as a smile on my daughter's face, the wind against my skin. But I really, I don't like,
if you've ever been on a roller coaster and you remember the roller coaster over there,
it's not the same as remember going over the edge like you're there. So I do it in an associated way
and it changes your biochemistry. And now it sounds pretty, you know, positive thinking. I'm going to be grateful, but there's
a value to it because the two emotions that mess up your business, your life, your relationships
are anger and fear. And you can't be angry and grateful simultaneously. And you can't be fearful
and grateful simultaneously. So by starting my day with that, and it's not some fake pump up positive thinking, they're
real experiences, so it literally teaches your body to go in that state because otherwise
the environment we're in right now, there's a whole lot of uncertainty and fear.
Then real fast I do this three minute process that's kind of like a blessing and then three
minutes, the last three minutes are called three to thrive, where I focus on three things
I want to accomplish, but instead of thinking I want to accomplish, I see, feel and experience it is done.
I feel grateful. I celebrate it. And it trains your brain.
So in 10 minutes, I'm done. Third thing that I'll do, I immediately send a message or a text or an audio message to somebody as a sincere compliment.
And I don't go, dude, great job or wow, you're cool.
as a sincere compliment.
And I don't go, dude, great job, or wow, you're cool.
I say, listen, I saw you on Tuesday with those kids,
and I saw you take that extra 20 minutes no one else did.
And I just want you to know, I saw that.
I thought that was incredible.
So I'm always very specific so they know it's not just some positive thinking bullshit call.
It's sincerely doing it. And it makes me constantly look for the good in the people I work with.
Fourth thing I do is whatever I don't want to do. The most challenging part of the day.
I want to go handle that problem. I want to handle that issue.
Because after you do that, everything has momentum. So those four are my core.
Now my workouts, what I've done to be able to have more energy and vitality and strength.
I just finished a book called Life Force. Spent three years on it.
And in there I give all the details of what to do
depending upon what your goals are and what your direction is, stage of life. Are you looking for
more energy or more strength? Are you looking to extend the quality of your life? Are you dealing
with a real disease? And you know, I did Money Master the Game and I interviewed, you know, at
the time, 50 of the smartest people in the world financially, Ray Dalio, Warren Buffett, etc.
This time, I interviewed 167 Nobel laureate scientists and the greatest regenerative doctors on the face of
the earth. So there's nothing in here that's my opinion. It is all science and it's stuff that
you would think would happen 20 or 30 years in the future that's happening either right now or
the things that are coming in the next 12 to 36 months that the FDA is currently looking at for approval? I want to ask you a follow-up to one thing you mentioned there, which I think
a lot of people don't do, which I think you do incredibly well. I've seen you do this many times.
You mentioned you reach out to someone, you'll text someone, you'll send a voice note or a video
message, or maybe you're calling them or just saying hi to them and telling them you're
acknowledging something that they're doing well, that you appreciate. I don't think that many people do this. Why is this so important for you
personally? And why do you think this would help so many people get out of themselves and overcome
anxiety and stress if they did this even a couple of times a week? I know you do this every day, but
just a couple of texts a week. Why was this so valuable for people?
Well, number one, I love people. So I love to sincere. If you just call someone to make a compliment and it's not sincere, anybody can feel
that. I don't do that. You know, it's like I, I pride myself in finding the goodness in people
or the skill sets in people. And I also know that what is acknowledged tends to grow. So from
standpoint of that, I want them to feel that feeling of being appreciated.
I want them to know I see what's happening behind the camera, so to speak. You know, it's like,
that's what matters. It's not how everybody else sees you. It's how you really are.
And then it also deepens every relationship you have when you sincerely acknowledge somebody
and you notice something other people don't notice. And so it deepens the connection.
And to me, quality of life is a quality of two things, your emotions and your relationships.
And if my emotions are terrible, my relationships are going to be terrible.
But if I have great emotions and I can extend that out to help other people, then it just
makes me feel more alive.
So I do it for me and them.
It's a virtuous cycle.
Right.
Yeah.
And I think if someone's feeling stressed, the easiest way to overcome that is do what you said, which is focus on the things you're
grateful for and get out of yourself and start acknowledging someone else. And you'll build that
deeper relationship and feel better in the process. And now you've got positive momentum energy. Now
you attack the most difficult thing of your day. And when you make that your habit, the most
difficult thing gets smaller and smaller because you're feeling stronger and stronger, right?
And then you have momentum.
And so now you'll attack the next difficult thing.
And it doesn't even feel difficult at that point.
But the whole secret is most of us don't realize, depending on which researcher you buy into, somewhere between 45% and 55% of what we do is habitual.
And the great thing about habit is you don't have to think.
and 55% of what we do is habitual.
And the great thing about habit is you don't have to think.
So I don't know about you,
but the first time I tried to drive a stick shift car
when I was a little kid,
I was like, I'm supposed to do this, this, this.
Watch the rear view mirror.
It's too much.
But once you learn it,
most of driving, 99% of it, it's habits.
So now your brain is free to do other things.
That's the value of making something habitual.
The weakness of making it habitual
is you don't grow, right? The weakness of making it habitual is you don't feel fully alive.
So it's like, you've got to find that balance in your life. But if you can create habits that make
you do the right things for your mind, your body, your emotion, and for others, then let those take
over. Then it becomes, it's like working out. You and I both are workout nuts. And it's like,
in the early days, it's hard to work out.
At this stage of my life or yours, if you didn't work out, I don't work out.
My bet is you'd be pissed off and frustrated, right? You need to work out.
It's a part of who you are now.
In the beginning days, it's like the last thing I wanted to do.
But once it's in your life, that now frees you up to use that energy for everything else that matters in your life.
Yeah, absolutely.
up to use that energy for everything else that matters in your life.
Yeah, absolutely.
Two and a half years ago, I had the privilege of being in your island in Fiji and spending about a week with a small group of people, Dean and a bunch of other guys and gals.
We got to spend some time with you and you had a prediction.
You said winter is coming.
Yes, I did.
And you, you know, Dean has told me that you have predicted many things over the last four decades in the economy and what's happening in the world and all these different crises.
You're kind of on the front lines of access to the most brilliant people in the world.
So you know what's happening before it happens.
And you said to us, winter is coming.
You probably knew this two years prior to that.
And you said, you don't know when exactly, but it's coming soon.
And then, I don't know, four or five months later, it hit and it hit hard for a lot of people. And it's still hitting hard, like you're talking about over the last couple of years.
And I don't think it's going to slow down anytime soon. It seems like there might be some hope and
then boom, another wave and then another wave of something, whatever it is. What did you learn from
researching in the new book with all
these different experts on how we can really take back control of our mind, our health in new ways
to support us when the winter continues to hit? Because it doesn't seem like it's going away
anytime soon. You're hitting on a huge note. I'd love to plant the seed with everyone listening,
and that is we're about halfway through winter.
But my hope is this is the year where that part starts to change.
But we're still in winter, meaning so many people have been conditioned to be fearful.
So many businesses have been shut down.
Our children have been kept out of school for such a long period of time that there's after effects on that.
And it's also you want to be a student of history.
Think of it this way for a second. When did mankind really become a dominant force on earth? When they made one distinction. I've shared this with you when
we were private. I think I told you there's three skills that you want to master if you want an
extraordinary life, no matter what decade we're in. You know, you've probably read Oxford and many
other universities are doing these studies where they say half the jobs we have today will be gone
by 2040, which sounds like a long time, but it's 18 years from now. And that'll go like this. And so my
grandkids, my daughter, it's like, what do I want to help them with? Well, the first skill you got
to master to be great, you know, you're the school of greatness, is the ability to recognize patterns.
When humanity recognized the pattern of the seasons, the whole world changed. Because we went from hunter-gatherers trying to survive from place to place where we're exposed to everything to wait a second.
If we plant in the springtime, we protect in the summer, we reap in the fall, and then we hang on to some of that so we can live through the winter.
That created communities for the first time, and then eventually cities
and states and countries. So that changed the world. What'll change a person's life is when
you realize there's also a set of seasons in your own life. And so think of it this way,
zero to 21 is springtime. Things are easy to grow in springtime. You don't have to do that much.
Growing as a kid happens naturally. And some people live a protected childhood, some of us not so
much, but overall life is supporting you. It's sending you, teaching you, sharing
with you. Now when you get from you know 21 to 41 or 22 to 42 whatever range you
want to talk about, some people get there at 16, some people get there at 25, you
now are in the real world and now you go test what you learned in your springtime.
And it's a hot summer and you find out, holy shit,
a relationship's different than I thought it was
when I'm an intimate relationship committed.
It's not the thing I just envisioned so easily.
Or I'm not as bulletproof as I thought I was.
I'm not President of the United States already and a billionaire
like I said I was going to be when I was 19.
So you start to learn
test figure out what's real it's an important stage of life 42 43 to 62 63 is the power of
your life it's the reaping time if you worked hard in the spring in the summer and you put yourself
out there and you planted it's a reaping time it's a time when you really become a leader
just everyone's different some sooner or later but it's a greating time. It's a time when you really become a leader. Just everyone's
different, some sooner or later, but it's a great stage to understand. And then if you're lucky,
you go from 63 to 83 and maybe 83 to 103 of the oldest living humans, 119. You have an extended
final season of your life where you get to be the mentor. You get to share. You get to make
a difference. And maybe towards the end of your life, people look out for you again after you looked out
for everybody else.
That's kind of the cycle of life.
But then there's a third pattern, and that's the cycle of history.
The most powerful people, by the way, have used not only pattern recognition, but the
second skill, pattern utilization.
They see a pattern and they use it.
So you'd say, how did Jeff Bezos become the richest man in the world?
And the answer is simple.
He studied the growth in the internet at an early stage and saw how explosive it was. It was like nothing else
he could see. And he just figured any product, books, was the easy one to start with. But he
got himself in and then he started to learn the real secret. That convenience is what people value
more than anything else. And when he honed in on that one distinction, he not only recognized
the pattern, used the pattern, the people that are real masters create their own patterns, right?
You play everybody else's music and then eventually you get good enough you can create your own music,
right? So the similar thing happens. And so what's occurred is in humanity is you go through,
there's this seasons in nature,
there's seasons in my life, and then there's seasons in history.
So watch this.
This is what gives me great optimism for everyone watching here.
First of all, winter's not forever.
No pandemic lives forever.
No war lives forever.
Nothing.
Everything changes.
And everything ends.
And that means something new occurs.
You may not like it, but that's how life is.
And the good news about winter is it's always followed by springtime.
Historically, some winters are long, some are short, but they're always followed by springtime.
What follows the night?
The daytime.
What a cool way to set it up if you were God or the universe, right?
So imagine for a second, all of your listeners or viewers, and you think about it too.
What if you're born in 1910?
Now you know the seasons of a person's life.
So from 1910, the next 19, 20 years of your life, you're going to be absorbing what was happening.
World War I ends.
The world looks like it's a great place.
New technology, cars, radio.
And then what happens?
An explosion of abundance, the roaring 20 20s and so you're a kid
you're 14 15 years old and you're like i can't wait to get a car to go but what happened when
that person hit the next stage of life 19 20 21 years old as they came of age it's 1929 and
suddenly people are jumping out of buildings, total depression, dust bowl, nobody's got jobs.
It looks horrific and it was horrific.
But did they get a break?
No, when they turned 29, it's 1939.
So think about it.
Now World War II breaks out.
You and I don't remember.
We weren't there, but anybody who was alive will tell you.
It looked like the whole world was going to end.
Hitler was sweeping across Europe, bombing London. It literally looked like the whole world was getting hitler was sweeping across europe
bombing london it literally looked like the world as we know it was over and this group of people
like millennials or z generation a lot of people make fun of and they go there you know whatever
wallflowers i forget the terms they use and then the millennials and z generation argue about you're
old because you parked in the middle versus the side. I mean, it's bullshit.
The same bullshit was happening then. These people are called flappers. They were irresponsible.
But here's history and one thought. Good times create weak people. Weak people create bad times.
Bad times create strong people. Strong people create good times.
That's the history of the world over and over and over again.
Yes.
And so what happened is that generation who was weak became strong because the environment demanded it.
They became the heroes.
And think about how different the 1930s and 40s were versus after the war, 45 through 50, up until Kennedy, 63.
That 20-year period was what a lot of people thought was the greatest time in America.
Now, certainly wasn't if you're African-American.
Started to become better if you're a woman.
But then think about after Kennedy died and Robert Kennedy is killed and Martin Luther King is killed.
Think about the 60s and the 70s, how different they were than the 80s, 90s, 2000s.
So we go through these seasons.
I could show them to you a thousand years of Roman history and you can see them.
There's a book I highly recommend.
Bill Clinton gave me this book called Generations when I was working with him 25 years ago, about a 700 page book.
But the same authors, William Strauss and Neil Howe, wrote a smaller book, which might be more helpful.
And it's called The Fourth Turning.
I read it in 1997.
And it shows you the seasons of history and how everybody enters that.
Like, everyone's going to have winter.
Some are going to have it in their 20s.
Some are going to have it in their 40s.
Some are going to have it in their 60s or 80s.
Some are going to have it when they're children.
And then we all move through these seasons that are pretty much historic because the older person dies, everybody loses that lesson,
and then we tend to, unfortunately, have to relearn some lessons again. So I want you to know
that if it looks really horrible right now, if you follow those cycles, we're about halfway through
winter. And winter usually starts with a financial winter, which was what I was referring to. I did
not predict the pandemic, but there are pandemics as there were 80 years ago,
right? But in addition to that, there's always a great war. And it could be a cyber war,
could be a war with China, but there's no question we are not done with what we're going to deal
with. In fact, I'm reading right now, you know, one of the ways I stay on the cutting edge is I'm
constantly studying history because, you know, people say, you know, it doesn't repeat itself,
but it rhymes, you know.
And this is a book that anybody who really wants to know where the world's going,
it's Ray Dalio's newest book, The Changing World Order.
I mean, it's incredible.
It's 500 years of history. So my whole thing is leaders anticipate, losers react.
If you can anticipate what's coming, you can really take advantage.
If you wait till it hits you, you're in trouble.
So I think we're in a time where it's going to be a better year if you're willing to be better, right? You know,
winter can be a beautiful time. As you've heard me say before, you can freeze the death or you
can ski and snowboard and have a great time with your family and build something. And so then when
spring comes, you know, you can really take advantage. But if you look at the world, the
most successful businesses started in the winter. 68% of the Fortune 1000 were started in either a recession or a
depression. I don't care if you're talking about Disney or Exxon in the depression or Pizza Hut or
FedEx in a recession or Apple in a recession. So this is your time, but you have to get your head
straight and you got to get your energy strong. And that's not easy when most people are shoved
in their houses and isolated and heard nothing but fear. So you got
to take back control. Absolutely. One of the things in the sports arena that I learned growing up was,
uh, if you stay ready, you don't have to get ready. I love that. And you, again, you've worked
with interviewed your friends with the top peak performers in the world and in all industries,
you know, them all, what are one or two practices besides the one you talked about with your morning routine from
peak performers that you've studied or maybe you've implemented that keeps them prepared so
they don't have to get ready, they stay ready? Well, I think, unfortunately, the real things
are simple. That's why nobody does them. So if you took Ray Dalio or Warren Buffett, I mean, they're readers.
I'm a constant reader, but I don't just read anything. I read something that I think can
give me an edge of understanding. I mean, look at it, Lewis, you and I both know,
most people, Jim Rohn used to say, my teacher used to say, most people major in minor things.
They know more about some actress's personal life than they know about their own physical body or their vitality or their energy or their emotion or their business or their
career. And so what matters? A few subjects, your body, because your energy matters. That energy is
low. Everything I just said is worthless to you because you're just going to go, he's talking too
fast and there's a lot going on. And yeah, well, hopefully the future will be better because when
you're low energy, you don't use your full intelligence or ability.
And most of us have not moved so much
because of the environment of COVID
where everybody was pretty much locked down
unless you live like I did in Florida.
The point of the matter is most people,
that energy has been lower.
So you need energy.
You need emotion.
If you don't know how to master your emotion,
emotions start wars.
Emotion creates peace. Emotion gets you laid. Emotion gets you children. Emotion is what can make that business work or fail. And most people don't know how to direct their own emotions. What's another lesson? You got to look at your own financial world. If you don't master it, it's going to create enormous stress. Your relationships are everything, as we've already said.
Your relationships are everything, as we've already said.
Your business or your career, or hopefully it's your mission.
And then there's the spiritual side of life.
So you can dig a half dozen areas and go, let me find who's genius in this area and let me go learn from them.
Let me go read.
Let me listen to podcasts.
Let me be conscious about feeding my brain things that are going to give me not only inspiration, but insight and skill and tools. And everyone I know who is not only successful, but is able to contribute back to
society, it has a hunger to constantly improve at least one area of those six areas of their life.
And the most happy are the ones that hit multiple areas. And that's why, like one of the reasons I
wrote Life Force, richest man in the graveyard is not your goal.
You know, it's like there's an old phrase that says, you know, a person who's healthy has a million dreams.
A person who's not healthy has one, you know.
So I wanted to give people the cutting edge in that area because it's such a critical area.
Of all these different areas of life, mastering emotions, financial world, relationships, what do you think is the root of people lacking what they really
want in all those areas? Is it the confidence? Is it the skillset? What is the root cause of
holding them back from really growing in all those areas? I think it's a couple of things.
One is the biggest problem people have is they think they're not supposed to have any.
And problems are the fuel
for growth, right? And so it's like, if you don't have any problems, you're either a liar or you
might call them challenges. It feels better. I understand that. But, you know, anybody doesn't
have problems. He's either totally asleep at the wheel or they don't have much of any kind of a
life, you know, no responsibility, nothing they're building. So I think the first thing is this
misnomer that if I have a problem, there's something wrong with me or my life.
And I think the second one is this delusion we've sold people on that getting what you want is going to make you happy.
You know, you could call success getting what you want.
I don't define it that way, but that's how most people do.
But then there's fulfillment.
And fulfillment is living what you're made for.
do. But then there's fulfillment. And fulfillment is living what you're made for. It's like, I think the biggest challenge people have, and the reason they're not able to respond to challenges, they're
just thinking about themselves. And it's not that hard to meet your own needs. And it's nobody's
fault. I mean, these little things in our pocket, these little mini computers we used to call phones,
I mean, they're constantly conditioning you to instantly get what you want. And that's not how human relationship works.
And it sure as hell not how you build a business, right?
It's not a straight line.
If you go to nature, you will not see a straight line unless a human built it.
Because everything grows a little up and down like a stock, like anything else.
But if it really grows, it keeps growing.
But it's a winding process.
else and but if it really grows it keeps growing but it's a winding process and so i think the problem is that people don't have something that they're wanting to serve more than themselves
that's where my energy comes from i don't have to work in a day of my life why the hell do i do all
this crazy stuff i got 105 companies now and i got all these different industries because it's so
much more interesting to be in the game of life and keep growing and expanding and being challenged.
That's what makes you feel alive. And do all their problems with 105 companies, I can promise you.
But if I thought my life was supposed to be problem-free, I would be really stressed out.
And if I was just doing it for me, I would have stopped a long time ago. It's like, I know you've
asked me a lot of times about confidence. You just mentioned it again. Like, is there a lack of confidence?
No, it's a lack of mission, right?
Because what happens is when you have something you want to serve, if it's your child and
everything's on the line, you won't come up with answers you'll never come up with for
yourself, right?
So it's like having that sense of mission.
And then I think the next problem is that people think they have to know how.
I call it the tyranny of how.
Like, you get all excited, I'm going to do this.
And then your brain goes, I've never done it before.
Oh, my God, what did I say?
I don't know how to do this.
And they tend to focus on how to do it.
And when you start with how, you're screwed.
Like, Martin Luther King had no idea how when he did his I Have a Dream speech.
In fact, his wife was the one that pushed him because he was uncertain, right?
If you know the real history, it's pretty interesting.
But the bottom line is he gets up there and he gives his vision of how it can be done.
He talked about what needs to happen and why.
If you can figure out what you want and why you want it and you get strong enough reasons,
reasons that will drive you late at night, it will get you up early in the morning. And the reasons are different. Some people do it for And you get strong enough reasons, reasons that'll drive you late at night.
It'll get you up early in the morning. And the reasons are different. Some people do it for
nitty gritty reasons. Jim Rohn used to say, because, you know, some guy told him he borrowed
money from this finance company. I forget the name of HFC finance, whatever the hell it was.
And, you know, he hadn't been back since he borrowed the money. So you're calling them in
those days, they could harass you in ways they can't today,
right? They call him, show up and embarrass him in front of his neighbors. And so Jim Rohn,
his first real chunk of money he told me he made because it's like, he set this goal. It was his
nitty gritty reason. His reason to get rich was so he could go down and pay this thing off. And
he said, he went to the bank and got it all in cash and in small bills. And he bolted into this
little HFC finance place. And the guy who borrowed the money was and in small bills. And he bolted into this little HFC finance
place. And the guy who borrowed the money was the fourth best back. And he said, I walked up there,
I opened up this brief and I dumped all the money all over his desk in small bills. And I said,
count it. It's all there. I will never be back. He said he was startled because I hadn't been
there since I borrowed the money. But he did it for, some people do it for their kid.
Some people will do it, like we'll almost all do it for something more than ourselves.
Some people do it because they like winning, right?
I know that about you, right?
It's like, I like winning.
I like being the best at what I do.
So I'm not going to settle for less than that.
Why would I, right?
So you got to find your reasons.
But if you know what you want and you get a big enough why, now you'll figure out how to do it.
But if you start with how, you know, the small brain, the fear brain goes, oh, shit, I don't know what to do.
I don't know where to go.
I don't know what to do 90% of the time either.
I know what and why.
And then I try something.
It doesn't work.
I try something else.
I try something else.
Now I speed it up by learning from the best.
So that's why, you know, Money Master the Game is a perfect example.
My companies, you know, at the time were $100 million companies.
I had one $500 million company.
Now we're doing $7 billion.
I took what I learned from these guys.
I applied it not only to my investing.
I applied it to my own businesses.
Why do I reinvent the wheel when I just learned from the best on earth?
I mean, somebody who's that good can tell you that little two millimeter thing that changes everything.
So my life is really about learn from the best, but I don't start with the how. I start with the
what and the why. And I think that's the mistake most people make. And then how do you get confident?
You do stuff. I mean, like I'll give an example. Speaking. You know, it's supposedly outside of
falling like the second biggest fear people have, public speaking. And, you know, you've
trained yourself, so you don't feel that challenge. But I don't feel that challenge. I've done it a
million times, but I didn't feel it early on. And the reason was I tried to explain to people,
I'm not getting up thinking about how I'm doing. If I did, I'd probably be a horrible critic of
myself because I can be brutal in those ways. I'm focused on how do I serve them? What do they need? What do they
want? How can I serve? And when you're focused on others and how to serve them, there's no lack of
confidence in you because if it's not working, you just change your approach because it's all about
serving. People that are scared to speak are thinking constantly, how am I doing? Am I good
enough? Am I strong enough?
You'll never get confidence.
Confidence comes from doing something so much.
Confidence is tying your shoes, right?
Confidence.
Michael Jordan making a thousand shots before you take a break every single day, six days a week.
So you look at Jordan or you look at, you know, LeBron or you look at anybody who's
the best in the world at what they do, and you go, aren't they lucky? But if you actually study them, you'll see they're doing things,
they're practicing in private things that make them certain in public, and they get rewarded
for what they do in public. And you got to do the same. It's interesting because public speaking
was probably my most terrifying thing. I wasn't even able to speak in front of like five people
without stuttering and just kind of forgetting what I wanted to say. I couldn't get my message across. So I took a year of public
speaking class with Toastmasters just to get reps in a group of people that are, you know,
are going to give you positive feedback and in a safe environment. So I could just get in front of
a room, practice a five minute speech and know that I'm going to make mistakes. It's interesting
what you said is a hundred percent true about thinking about serving others because for, I think it was probably seven years, I was
speaking on stages and I would still get nervous like a day or two before. It wasn't as bad as the
first two years where it was like a week before. Now it was only like a day or two. And I called
my coach at the time, his name's Chris Lee, and I said, I don't know why I'm speaking. I've been
doing this for long enough now. Shouldn't I be not afraid anymore? And he said, you're thinking
about messing up, missing the joke, forgetting what you're going to say in the first line,
forgetting you're thinking about how you're looking as opposed to serving people. And he
said, exactly what you just said. He's like, when you just know you're going to mess up,
it's not going to be perfect. You're going to get, forget that line that you really wanted to say, but just put all the energy on the audience. Everything starts
to change. And so your, your message speaks to me because I'm an example of that. And I really
shift. Obviously you kick ass in that area now, but think about that. You just gave people the
truth, right? How do you build confidence as action? The biggest mistake people think they're
supposed to walk out and be good at it. And if're not because you know they don't want any part of it
i don't not look good not be good because we live in this social media world where they compare
themselves to people that are bullshit you know i got a friend that owns a gym and we laugh about
this all the time he says tony at least two or three times first time he told me i couldn't
believe it but i saw it happen one time i went to go pick him up. We were going to lunch.
And he goes, look at this.
And these people would come out, a woman or a man, they both do it, and lay out all this stuff, take a million pictures of himself, and then leave.
They didn't do any workout whatsoever.
That's the bullshit social media.
And filters on pictures.
So people compare themselves to not other humans.
They compare to people other's bullshit story.
And that's why so many people get depressed when they, you know, I'm sure you've seen the studies, you know, the more
time people spend on social media, usually the greater levels of frustration and anger and
certainly depression for a lot of people have because you're comparing a world that doesn't
matter. Plus you're being reinforced by these algorithms in ways that go beyond your conscious
awareness. What happens when we don't lean into our fears or we just allow our fears to stay inside
of us, our insecurities to stay inside of us for years or decades, and we never actually
learn to act on them and improve them?
What happens to us if we just allow these fears to hold us back?
Or what happens to a muscle if you don't use it?
We say you lose it.
You don't actually lose it, but it gets weaker and weaker, as you well know, right?
And what happens the minute you start making demands on it, especially if you haven't made demands in a while, it doesn't take much to see real muscle growth, right?
And so it's like if you constantly live in fear, your world gets smaller and smaller, and it tends to get more fearful.
Like who's more fearful?
Someone has broken 10 bones in their body and healed them as a kid?
Or someone never broke a bone?
You know the answer is.
The kids that are overprotected are fearful all the time.
But if you've gone out in the street
and you've gotten in a fight
and you busted your arm or your hand or finger
or you played football or whatever the hell it is
or boxed or something,
it's like, now it's like, I'm not afraid of that crap
because you've lived it. and there's no substitute.
I always tell people a belief
is a poor substitute for an experience.
You think you know what China is,
but I take you to China,
you have a little different experience.
And so almost everything I do is give someone an experience.
That's the reason, you know, I did the fire walk.
I still do, but did for so many years.
I did, before that I used to do skydiving, but it's hard to get 15,000 people above the
sky in New York in the middle of the night.
So I'd come up with other tools.
But the fire walk was again, giving you an experience of something that seemed difficult
or impossible.
And then you get yourself to do it and your brain goes, wait a second, if I could do that,
what else can I get myself to do?
That psychological shift is the most important
shift that people can make. It's a shift in your identity. Why is identity so important for us to
shape a positive, powerful identity? Well, first of all, so everybody understands what I mean by
identity is we all have a way of identifying ourselves. We have a way of labeling ourselves.
So most of us came up with our labels based on how we behaved. But really smart people can do stupid things.
Really nice people can be mean.
Mean people can be nice.
And so if you judge yourself too soon, and most people's identity, their labels for themselves, who they think they are, has been based on their past and often many years ago.
And so they don't update it.
So the metaphor I'd give for identity is like, it's your comfort zone.
It's not your goals.
So if you took a temperature in the room and said 68 degrees is my comfort zone physically, emotionally, financially.
I want more in my relationship.
I want more physically, energy wise.
I want more financially in my career.
But this is what I'm used to.
And so what happens?
People stay in their comfort zone for the most part.
And then let's say something happens and you dip. you're a 68 degree or that's your mentality and you drop down to 62 61 60 somewhere around 60
or 59 the heaters kick on and go whoa whoa whoa you're a 68 degree or what the hell are you doing
we've all experienced that all of a sudden you go i'm not going to live like this anymore i'm not
going to be in this relationship i'm not going to be fat like this.
Boom.
And you get this drive and you start to change.
But what most people don't understand is it happens on the upper end too.
Meaning, let's say you got momentum.
You start crushing it.
You start doing even better than you think.
You go from 68 to 78, you're at 98 degrees.
Financially, emotionally, spiritually, whatever the metaphor is.
And then what happens?
You're going to say, hey, hey, hey.
Your brain goes, who the hell do you think you are?
You're not a 98 degree here.
All right?
Get back to 68.
And if nothing else, the heaters stop.
You lose your drive.
That'll drift you back.
And not enough, the air condition can kick on.
You start to kind of sabotage yourself until you get back to your comfort zone.
So unless you expand your identity, change is temporary.
It's like when someone says to me, I've stopped smoking.
It's been eight days.
And I go, why are you counting?
And I say, why are you counting?
So you can tell people how long you lasted this time?
Like if I went to somebody and I said to you, hey, you know,
Lewis, you want a cigarette?
You're not going to say, what brand is it? You're going to go, no, I'm not a smoker.
Notice how people, I'm not one of those.
That's not my identity.
Identity is the strongest force in the human personality.
If you look at Lance Armstrong, who has a mixed identity in the culture, this is a guy that had to win and found a way to win.
So when he was told he had cancer in his lungs, in his brain, and in his testicles, and he rides a bike bike and he's going to die, his answer was no,
I'm a champion. I find the way. I will find the answer. And he did. Now, unfortunately,
he bent the rules around the sport and it kind of ruined his reputation, obviously.
But that mentality, his identity is why he survived. Other people told they have cancer
and they're like, it's over. They give up. They start arranging their affairs. And so that psychological difference is the number one thing I work with people on because
unless you expand your identity, you're going to basically keep where you are. You might improve a
little or not. You might go up and down a bit, but you're going to stay within a realm. If you're
going to have an explosive breakthrough to another level, physically, mentally, financially,
spiritually, then we
got to not only give you the tools, we got to shift that internal sense of who you really are
and have you find that you are more than anything that's ever happened to you, that you can handle
whatever shows up, even if it's incredibly scary or uncomfortable. One of the biggest challenge I
see a lot of people having is the identity. When they start to have some success, they expand,
they get to 80, 85, 90,
100 degrees and start to really grow and expand. What would you say is one of the main factors to
help people to continue to break through to a higher degree as opposed to going back into the
comfort zone? Is it a habit? Is it a mindset? Is it a belief? Is it environment? You know,
what are those things would you say or a couple of things to help you continue and not fall back down? I'm sorry to be a broken record, but it's just the truth.
It's a purpose larger than yourself that keeps you going. If it's only to meet your own needs,
you will drop back into your comfort zone. But again, for example, you know, one of the great
things that came out of COVID is I've spent most of my life as a vagabond because I travel all over
the earth. So in most years I travel to, you know, 115 cities. And as you know, most of my life as a vagabond because I travel all over the earth. So in most
years I travel to, you know, 115 cities. And as you know, most of my seminars are multi-day seminars
and I go to 12 to 16 countries, you know, like Australia three times. And so all of a sudden
COVID hits and I had to adapt. I found this way to adapt. And now I'm reaching 10,000. I mean,
my largest seminar is now 900 000 people versus 15 000
i was trying i did one football stadium in 2019 with 38 000 people 40 000 people it was incredible
now that's a tiny seminar you know because i couldn't put 900 000 people in any stadium right
so all this good comes from that adaptation right figuring? Figuring out what to do. But I think the other part of it is, you know, during that same time, one of the great gifts was I could find a way to be home and still touch people's lives so deeply and do it in a way that was impactful.
I could see it and feel it.
And in their home, I could see their children.
I mean, it's been amazing.
And now I do both.
I do hybrid.
I got 1,000 people in front of me and 197 countries all around me.
But one of the other benefits was we'd want to have a daughter.
And I told my wife, I'm not having a kid after 50.
I don't want to show up at high school reunion and be 70 years old.
But now I've got a 48-year-old daughter and a nine-month-old daughter, to give you an idea.
I got five kids and five grandkids.
But my daughter, like all the things I've ever done for myself, biohacking and health and all that stuff.
Like now I'll be 80 at our high school reunion. So I got to use these things for a different
reason. And so that doesn't let me get to a certain level and stand there. It's like, man,
I, you know, I gotta be 92 to 102 range in order to do that. I got to know every tool in the tool
book to turn it around. So gave me even more drive. And then what comes
out of that now is I can help anybody. I mean, you know, this is my new book, by the way,
it's called Life Force. It's coming out February the 8th, but you can pre-order it now on Amazon
or go to TonyRobbins.com. But the point is, it's like, I want to know every single tool.
Like I got totally obsessed even more than I normally am. Cause it's like, okay, I got a higher
purpose. I got all my grandkids, all my children, but now I got my daughter. It's like, I got to
have these tools. So, you know, you probably know, I think you remember about four years ago, five
years ago, I was being crazy and I was snowboarding, chasing somebody who was 25 years old and a
professional, right? And I was not a professional regardless of age and i had one
of the most horrific accidents i tore my rotator cuffs and you know i was i've lived with pain like
you we both athletes so you know it's like living pain but i was nine nine nerve pain like couldn't
sleep more than 30 minutes in a night going to see these doctors and what do they all say every
single one says the same thing surgery you got to cut got to cut it. It's the only way. And then I go, okay, how long is the rehab?
Well, you know, there's no guarantee your shoulder will work again completely.
It could break again.
But, you know, probably four to six months.
And I'm one of the best.
So it's like my brain's like, no, there's got to be a better way.
And I remember seeing this study at Mayo Clinic where they said, you got to get a second opinion.
They recommend to this day, it doesn't matter how good the doctor is, because only 12% of the time is the second opinion the same as the first, which means
88% of the time it's different. And so it's like, okay, I need more opinions. I was getting the same
opinions. I was going to the same kind of doctor. So then I went to Peter Diamandis, who's my partner
and friend, and you know, so he's an MD from Harvard, but he's also a rocket scientist. I was
like, what about stem cells? I know a little bit about stem cells. So he interviewed me, interviewed and friend and you know so he's an md from harvard but he's also a rocket scientist i was like what
about stem cells i know a little bit about stem cells so he interviewed me interviewed me to dr
bob harari and they're both my co-authors in the book now and both my partners and bob's the guy
that took you know people remember probably remember years ago 38 years ago somebody took
old rats and gave them young rats blood and vice versa and magically the old rats got young muscles
strong hair darker and the old
young rats got old it's kind of a vampire thing but that's how stem cells were discovered so i
went to him and he said tony look your shoulder is shredded so i can't guarantee anything but if
you go get stem cells here in the u.s forget it because the way they regulate everything else it's
not going to do it so go to panama and he goes i want you to go down to this location and i want you to get three day old stem cells and he said they're cord stem cells it's not
fetal tissue i'd never do that they throw away the cords and it's full of this life force that
literally can change everything and so i went down and i got this iv and yeah i felt okay and
next day i was really sleepy i woke up the third morning not only was my shoulder perfect
I have the MRI just blow your mind three days but the most important thing is I had spinal stenosis
I've been in massive back pain for 14 years no back pain whatsoever no exaggeration so I became
nuts first for stem cells and then for anything in regenerative medicine so then I get invited by the
pope to be the cleanup speaker.
Believe it or not, the Pope puts on the number one stem cell regenerative conference every
two years because he sees it's not fetal tissue and he sees it as a gift from God and it's
healing people in ways they'd never seen before.
So they asked me to be the cleanup speaker.
I'm like, I'm no idiot.
I'm not going to come clean up speak.
I'm going to go the whole four days and attend every class.
And so I met the greatest scientists on the face of the earth,
Nobel laureates, brilliant people who are doing these breakthroughs in cancer and heart disease and Alzheimer's, but also regenerative medicine. And so I, right then I said, I'm going to write
a book. I'm going to do like money master the game. I'm only there. I interviewed 50 of the
most financially successful people in history. Here I interviewed 168 of the greatest Nobel laureates, scientists, MDs, the best on earth on how do you generate more energy.
So, like, for example, for years, if someone like a fireman or a person falls in a fire, you know what they look like afterwards.
It's grotesque. It's so sad for their life.
And the standard treatment is put cadaver skin on there to help them survive initially. Well, today there's seven
hospitals in the United States where they take your stem cells and they spray it on
your face. And in the book, I show a picture of this fireman before and three weeks later,
and you could never tell he was even in the fire. You know, Jack Nicklaus, one of the
greatest golfers of all time, couldn't stand for more than 10 minutes.
He gave me an endorsement for the book
and he got stem cells.
And this other piece we show you
on how to eliminate pain
in a natural scientific way,
he's playing golf again for the first time.
Cristina Ronaldo, the greatest,
you know, football soccer player in the world,
you know, gave me an endorsement of the book
because it's the same thing.
He's used regenerative medicine
to completely turn his life around. So there are tools that are below your mind there are tools
for preventing things that'll blow your mind there's a new test that just came out I got a
call from some of my partners about five six months ago and he said Tony you know there's
been a breakthrough in the number one killer in America, which is heart disease, right? And he said, there's this new scan called a CCTA scan. And if you've ever had a CT scan, you know,
they tell you how much calcium, they give you a score on your calcium, but
hardened calcium is actually healed in the body. It's the loose calcium, they call the widowmaker,
that can then block an artery and give you a stroke or give you a heart attack. And he goes,
Tony, it's so hard to read. I'm sure you've had them before. I said, I have. He goes,
attack and he goes tony it's so hard to read i'm sure you've had them before i said i have he goes they now this ai that literally opens digitally every single one of your you know entries in your
body flow in your body arteries etc and it goes through using ai and shows what's actually hardened
and good and what's loose and gives you a score and then shows you what to do he said they can
predict a heart attack between seven and ten years in advance and show you what to do so it never
happens so my father-in-law is with me at the time he's 80 you're about to be 80 years old He said they can predict a heart attack between seven and ten years in advance and show you what to do so it never happens.
So my father-in-law is with me at the time.
He's 80.
You're about to be 80 years old.
He's a strong and beautiful man.
But, you know, people around you start telling you you're getting older, 80, arrange your affairs.
And I could just see the decline in his psychology.
And then your physiology usually matches that.
So I said, Dad, I said, I'm going to go to our center here in Florida.
I said, I'm going to take a our center here in Florida. I said,
I'm going to take a couple hours and do this new test and meet some guys and talk. Why don't you
come with me? Let's do it together. I said, we're both a stage of life where we're going to obviously
have some of this calcium, but then it'll show us what to do. I said, why don't we go do it?
My father-in-law who, you know, worked his whole life lifting lumbery in his own business,
he is clean as a whistle.
And then we have these tools that I write about
in the book too, like I had this ankle of mine
that if I ever had a massage the last 18 years,
like don't touch it,
because if you did the nerves go crazy
and it literally, oh my spine like an electrical shock.
Oh man.
And I went in for a five minute procedure.
They scan what's going on in the tissue in your body, right?
And then they put in this fluid that opens up the channel and then it heals it.
It's amnio fluid, for example.
And it was like, it was a 10 minute procedure and I've never had a problem with my ankle since.
That was like three years ago.
So my dad had a hip issue.
So while we're there, they do his hip and he walks perfectly out with no pain for the first time in 12 years.
So we're getting on the plane and this is what I want for the book for people.
It's one of the reasons I wrote it.
My dad says to me, father-in-law, he goes, you know, Tony, those people talk about 120 and that.
I don't know about that stuff.
But he goes, you know, I'm 80, and my heart is solid.
And he goes, and my hips are working, and my muscles are strong.
He goes, I can live another 20 years.
He goes, you've only known my daughter for 22 years, been married to her. He goes, that's like a lifetime. He's got this whole new lease on
life. So there are so many things you can do that can take away your fears about cancer, heart
disease, Alzheimer's, et cetera. Or if you're there, things you can do so that you can have
an alternative set of treatments that maybe are less toxic, have greater opportunity. And again,
none of it's my opinion.
Everything, just like Money Master the Game,
is coming from the greatest medical doctors
and scientists in the world.
And it's everything from how to get stronger,
how to be able to eliminate challenges in your body,
how to produce more energy and strength
in the shortest period of time,
or how to heal the body
if you're going through some real challenges.
I'm so excited about Life Force.
And I read the first interview I did with you,
I think it was six years ago.
And it was for Money to Master the Game.
Oh, yeah.
And is the book like 600 pages?
It's probably the biggest book I've ever read.
I mean, it's like chock full of...
It's almost identical.
I use Bible paper.
It's 674 pages.
Right.
I read the book and I remember being,
so I was in my early 30s at the time.
So I had gotten decent, I would say, at earning,
but I didn't know how to invest.
And I literally just did whatever you said in the book
and I set it and forget it with index funds.
I didn't really know what an index fund or a fiduciary was,
all these things you've talked about in there.
And I just looked the last week,
I've doubled my investment.
That's awesome.
I had a big investment in there
and it's doubled in the last six years.
More than doubled actually.
And it's steady, it's stable,
and I can see kind of where it's going to go
in the next five, 10 years.
And you're not worried about it day to day,
every day, worried about checking it, all that shit.
Not about crypto going up and down,
and all stocks going up and down, and all these things.
It's just like, it keeps growing
as everything else in the world is uncertain.
I have been really good at being an athlete,
working out, being pretty healthy overall
throughout most of my life.
But I can only imagine the things I'm going to learn
when I read all of Lifeforce.
I don't have a copy yet, but when I get it soon-
Well, I literally just got this physical copy, so I'll send you one right away.
Exactly. When I get it, I'm going to go through this and start implementing it because if this
does exactly what Money Master the Game did for money for me, for my health, then I'm pumped
about this. So I'm very excited. I'll tell you what, I wrote this book. Every book I write,
I work with the intention of helping people change and improve their
lives on a massive scale.
But I wrote this book because it actually can save lives without exaggeration or hyperbole.
And I wrote it not only for you, but for those you love.
Because as you get older, you'll discover more people will call you and say, you know,
it happens to me every week.
Somebody's got cancer.
Somebody's got a family member with Alzheimer's.
Somebody's had a stroke.
And so now I can go, here's the cutting edge right now.
Here are the doctors, people that you go to right now.
Here's how to educate yourself literally in minutes on virtually every subject.
It's why it's so robust.
You can take as little of it or as much as you want.
But you'll appreciate as an athlete some of the stuff in there that will blow your mind.
I'm so excited.
Blow your mind. I'm saying blow your mind about how to increase your body's natural ability to produce energy and also how to keep you young longer.
Because, you know, most people think of genes as their destiny. And I know you know better. Genes are not your destiny.
Genes, think of that as like the piano. What you care about is the piano player. Right. And a piano player is the process that your body uses to direct those genes.
And so there's a process that makes that possible, that keeps your system running ideally. Think
about it. When you're young, you have a mansion. Everybody works for you. He's young. There's
plenty of resources. As you get older, the mansion's older, it breaks down a bit more.
The personnel's older because your stem cells are older like all these things start to break down but what if you could rejuvenate the house and the people in it and the systems
going on in it well it's like you know i'm fortunate enough to have a really wonderful
plane i but my plane's not brand new i made it brand new i repainted it i put new engines in it
but instead of spending 100 million dollars i spent a third of that to have my own BBJ. I can fly anywhere on earth. And I got, I'm basically at a flying house of 5,000
square feet, but I refurbished it all. Well, that's what's happening right now. I don't know
if you saw it today. They, I wrote about this in the book. There's regeneration of body parts
that has already been happening for some time. Dr. Tony Atala has been doing this at Wake Forest University for like 15 years.
He's replaced parts of people's bodies where he's grown them literally with stem cells.
So it doesn't get rejected and goes to your body.
Well, now they're doing it not only that way, but they're doing it with pig implants.
And today was the first day I wrote about it coming.
I said it would happen by the time you're reading this book.
And it's happening right on schedule.
They just did the first implants for a heart for a gentleman who couldn't get a heart transplant because you know, a hundred thousand people are on the list and 6,000 people
are dying every year because they can't get it, but they're able to actually change the genome
of the pig because they have the right structure. So your body doesn't reject it. And so, and we're
at the beginning, the beginning of that over the next two or three years, over the next five years, you're going to be able to actually grow from your own stem cells.
This is not science fiction.
They're doing it right now, but they'll do it in mass.
You'll be able to grow those pieces.
And if there's a breakdown, boom, you replace it with a new part.
And it's brand new.
Just like you would, you know, forget the plane.
Think of a car.
Most people have had a car that maybe they've refurbished. and now they make it all new. That's where we're heading to
give you an idea. Not to mention the fact that everything is code. So think of it this way.
You know, it took 25 years ago, it took 13 years to do something that no one thought was possible.
Ray Kurzweil is one of the people that drove it forward. Good friend of mine. It was like mapping
the genome. They thought it would take 100 years and $100 billion.
And guess what?
They did the thing in 13 years.
After seven years, they'd only figured out 1% of it.
And they all said it'll never work.
And he explained 1% doubled over seven years will get us to 100%.
We'll get to where we want to be.
So they spent $2.7 billion in 13 years. do you know what it costs to do your human genome
right now 600 bucks and you can have it done overnight wow i mean transistors you remember
you're oh no you're probably not not as old as i am so you don't remember but original transistors
you get 4 000 transistors you know put together to have this microchip and it was a buck a transistor. Well now you get six trillion for a
fraction of a penny each. So our bodies are code. And so I'm sure you've heard about CRISPR and some
of the things happening there where they're literally changing the code of what's going on
in your body and eliminating the disease completely. Dr. Sinclair from Harvard just did a
piece where they turned on these Yamanaka factors.
I won't try to explain it to you in two seconds, but it reverses the aging process.
They took mice that are blind where the retinas, you know, they've had glaucoma.
So the nerves are gone and regrew the nerves like reversed aging and their first time in history.
And these animals can see they're doing gene therapy as a young boy who can see again by gene therapy, by changing what's going on in the eyes. We are living in the greatest time in human history,
and the changes are going to happen over the next three to 12 years are beyond anything you can
imagine. It's amazing. I'm so excited for this book. And I want to be respectful of your time,
Tony, and ask you about this challenge. But before I ask the last question about this and
have you speak on it, again, I just want to acknowledge you for constantly pushing
the thermometer to the next level in your own life and just being on a mission to be in service
to so many people to help us in all these different areas of our life. It's really inspiring. And I'm
just grateful for all the work that you do. And again, the model you're creating for so many of
us. I'm very excited about this. I believe it the model you're creating for so many of us. Thank you, buddy.
I'm very excited about this.
I believe it's a five-day challenge,
the Breakthrough Challenge.
Which, you know, anytime you do anything for free,
it's like people should be paying tens of thousands of dollars for this
because they get so much value from you.
You're there consistently showing up,
giving your passion, giving your energy and wisdom.
You know, over four decades of wisdom from learning and applying this and getting amazing
results and, you know, learning from all your mistakes that you've made as well that you've
overcome. And this Breakthrough Challenge is really going to help people take control back
of their lives and develop a stronger mindset to get through the second half of winter,
because I'm sure it's going to be some, maybe some moments of ups and then some deeper downs and ups and downs throughout the way. So what can we expect with this challenge?
How can we get signed up for it right now to make sure we don't miss out at all?
Let me tell you why I created it. And I'll tell you real quick how you can do it. It's free. There's
no cost to it whatsoever. But what I want to mention, you just said something really important.
I want to make sure people don't leave without winter doesn't mean every night is every day is dark and rainy or snowy and horrible there's days
that look like summer middle winter if you live in florida winter is a nice place right so in winter
i don't want to make people feel like it's all going to be horrible it just means that the overall
theme is more challenging than not and that's where we're going to probably be and we're going
to face some bigger challenges going forward and it's going to make us grow and then that'll set us up for a beautiful springtime where
things are much easier and more fun for a while till you get the hot summer and then you go to
fall it's the cycle of life but uh this all started in 2020 because before i figured out how to build
these you know events where they could be done in people's homes and have a real transformational
experience like people were home and i was hearing about all the suicides and kids stuck at home and what was happening
to the parents and, you know, drug abuse going through the roof, all the things that we now
know they were happening then already.
But I'm connected to it because I know so many people.
And so I was like, I got to do something.
So I said, you know, I'm just going to do a one day free seminar, like three, four hours
total immersion and help people get a new perspective. When you're in your house day free seminar, like three, four hours total immersion and help people like
get a new perspective. When you're in your house day after day, you lose perspective, you lose
momentum, you lose energy. And I was like, that's bullshit. Everything I do is, you know, by total
immersion. So like, if you learn a language a little bit at a time, high school and college,
a few years later, you can't even speak the language. But if I said to you, I'm going to
drop you in Rome for the next 12 weeks and I i'm gonna pick you up and you have no teacher 12 weeks later you're gonna
be speaking italian really well because that's how the brain works with immersion that's why i do
seminars immersion so i said you know what i'm gonna do five days just 90 minutes a day usually
goes two two to a half hours i gotta be honest because i i get into it and i really want to help
people i'm going to charge them nothing and I really want to help people.
I'm going to charge them nothing and I'm going to deliver to them in their homes so that there's no cost.
There's no travel and I can reach them when they need it right now.
And we had 430,000 people show up for the first one.
It's the biggest event I've ever done.
And then last year, it looked like things were going to turn and, you know, people are getting excited.
Vaccine's going to go.
And I was like, okay, I'll do one more and let's do it for people so they get momentum to take on this new experience and we had 800 and something 35 000 people 40 000 people attend so this year looks like we'll have about a million
people and i'm going to do it one final time because i really believe we're turning the corner
on covid like we've talked about but what it is is five days and we're going to start with your
energy because without that like this whole conversation we had is worthless because if you're tired or you're exhausted or you just burn out or you've been through it all, your brain just doesn't function the right way.
So the first day is really about how we shift that energy in you.
And then the next day is about your emotions.
The next day is relationship.
And the next thing is going to be your finance.
The next day is going to be your career.
finance. The next day is going to be your career. And in five days, you get this massive burst of momentum and a whole new perspective. And you create a plan for your year, not some New Year's
resolution that six weeks later, you're doing nothing towards. And then you're part of our
community. And I'll give you a fun story. I'll give you a hundred stories, but this one's really
fresh for me because I just saw this man. His name's Matt Intinzizi matt was in a car accident i believe his car accident and he had
an injury a brain injury he was put in bed he was told he couldn't get off oxygen ever
he gained 700 pounds in that bed he couldn't even get up to go to the bathroom oh my god and this
is over seven years he's completely isolated naked in bed for three of those years oh and here's the
beauty of this challenge a buddy
of his tells him you got to do this challenge you got no excuse you got nowhere to go you're in your
bed i'll put this on a big screen in front of you here we'll put it on a laptop you got to attend
this thing and he thought it was all bs but his buddy got him his buddy sat beside him set it up
made him watch and the first day he got so excited i
mean he was so moved that he took this little um like uh i don't know like a like a railing you'd
use to hang curtains like curtain railing and he just started doing these little push-up type
things in the bed anyway long story short in six weeks he got off the oxygen which they said he
could never do he stood for the first time he made
it to the bathroom on his own for the first time after eight weeks then he started losing weight
and feeling stronger and so finally i don't know what number he's at but he lost 258 pounds so far
but i called him up because you know you're part of our community after you do this it doesn't end
in the five days and all these people around the world become your friends and he's getting all
the support from people and he's showing videos of his improvement so that's how i knew what's going on with him
because i'm i'm tuning in too so i reached out to him and i said listen you lose this much more
weight and i will fly you to palm beach florida and you come to my live unleash the power within
event the first one we're doing live in two years and you be my guest and you walk on the fire
and he got so excited and he went for it.
Lost 258 pounds.
But then he calls me up and goes, okay, I did what you said.
I'm ready to come.
I drove a car for the first time.
I'm ready to travel for the first time.
But he goes, I fell in love and I'm engaged.
Can I bring my girl?
I said, of course you can.
So they just recently came here to Palm Beach.
They walked the fire together. And he's inspiring other people. All this came because of course you can. So they just recently came here to Palm Beach. They walked the fire together.
And he's inspiring other people.
All this came because of a free challenge.
Because somebody got him in there.
Because there's no reason not to do it.
So if you've ever wanted to experience my work, here's your chance.
Cost nothing.
It's not partially free.
It's totally free.
And you don't have to go anywhere.
And if you want, you can do it with your family or a friend.
So you've got a partner.
And they don't have to be in the same room with you. or you could be doing it with a group of people in your office. So I'm doing it January 25th through the 29th. It's coming up
quick, January 25th, 2 p.m. Eastern, 11 Pacific, but we have people from 195 countries. So whatever
time zone 2 p.m. Eastern is for you. And I promise you, you do this each day for these five days,
you're going to have a massive momentum and you're going to be set up to win no matter what happens in 2022.
And it's Breakthrough2022.com.
Breakthrough2022.com to register.
Again, there's no cost.
You just got to register.
Breakthrough2022.com.
I'm telling you, I've been a part of these events the last couple of years.
I've seen the energy.
I've seen the consistency people take on actions on overcoming their fears and insecurities. I've seen the energy, I've seen the consistency people take on actions on overcoming their fears
and insecurities. I've seen the results they get. I've met some of these people as well,
because I've been down to Florida with you and seen some people as well. It's incredible what
people are creating after just five days of getting the tools, the wisdom, and really the
clarity on how to take action moving forward on all these different areas of their life. So
Breakthrough 2022, I'm telling you, sign up right now.
It's free.
Send it to a few of your friends.
Get them to sign up with you.
Have an accountability buddy, and it'll really support you to commit and really take on this
year in a big way.
So if you've got any insecurities, any fears, or any big goals and dreams that you want
to go tackle, I'm telling you, this is the place to be January 25th through the 29th.
Do not miss this.
Breakthrough2022.com.
And remember something,
Breakthrough 2022,
it's really about
the greatest story of humanity.
What is the greatest story?
What's the story we all love?
It's the comeback story.
It's, you know,
it's the hero gets knocked to their knees.
And listen,
COVID's knocked everybody
to their knees in some way, right?
Business, their life.
That's nothing to be embarrassed by.
I don't give a damn how good you are. But they get knocked to their knees. And what, right? Business, their life. That's nothing to be embarrassed by. I don't give a damn how good you are.
But they get knocked to their knees.
And what is it?
It's the comeback.
It's the Rocky.
It's that music where all of a sudden you step back up and you take control and rock.
That's what 2020 needs to be for you.
But you're not going to get there sitting at home having the same perspective you have.
You got to exit that world and enter another world filled with people that are ready to
go to the next level.
And that's what Breakthrough2022.com is about.
I had a tiger.
I got that music in my head right now.
Me too.
Final thought for you before we go, real quick.
What was the biggest lesson of 2021 for you?
And what are you most excited about for 2022?
And then we'll wrap it up.
I think the biggest lesson was that I could have even more impact without treating my body like it's a vagabond around
the world. And I think the other one that was the greatest gift that God gave was my daughter,
right? Like we've almost given up on it, but I said, if I can really be home, I don't want to
have a child where I'm never there. I have to drag them around the earth. But if I can be home a lot
more here, let's give it one more try. And so, you know, my daughter's, you know, the gift that's come out of that. So those are, those are my breakthroughs for 2021.
I love it, Tony. Thank you again so much for taking the time for being such an incredible
teacher to so many of us and appreciate you being here. And again, breakthrough2022.com.
Make sure you guys go sign up right now. Tony, again, thank you so much.
Thank you so much. you guys. So share a review over on Apple and let me know what part of this episode resonated with
you the most. And if no one's told you lately, I want to remind you that you are loved, you are
worthy, and you matter. And now it's time to go out there and do something great.