The School of Greatness - Why The Law of Attraction Isn't Working For You MASTERCLASS EP 1323
Episode Date: September 23, 2022Today’s episode is all about the laws of attraction and how you can manifest your best life. Three experts, and personal success stories, share their experiences and advice they have for others when... it comes to the laws of attraction.In this episode, Rhonda Byrne, creator & author of “The Secret”, shows us ways to live life without doubt and uncertainty and how to leave our egos behind.Bob Proctor, the late best-selling author & lecturer, teaches the path to turning self-doubt into confidence and how to reprogram our minds for success.Rob Dyrdek, entrepreneur & television host, explains the common misconceptions about success and failure as well as five things you can start today to set yourself up for future success.For more, go to lewishowes.com/1323Full episodes:Rhonda Byrne - https://link.chtbl.com/1037-pod Bob Proctor - https://link.chtbl.com/1090-pod Rob Dyrdek - https://link.chtbl.com/1159-pod
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How do we finally transition into abundance?
It has everything to do with our mind and what we believe.
And that's the biggest, biggest thing is to...
Welcome to the School of Greatness.
My name is Lewis Howes, a former pro athlete turned lifestyle entrepreneur.
And each week we bring you an inspiring person or message
to help you discover how to unlock your inner greatness.
Thanks for spending some time with me today.
Now let the class begin.
Welcome to this special masterclass.
We brought some of the top experts in the world to help you unlock the power of your
life through this specific theme today.
It's going to be powerful.
So let's go ahead and dive in.
To create a physical world, a material world, and then the greatest secret takes that to a whole
new level, actually. And so then you really get to see that, oh my gosh, it's super easy to create anything I want. Like really
so easy because if we have a belief it's hard, then it's going to be hard, you know? And so,
and so it has everything to do with our mind and what we believe. And so if we believe a thought,
it will manifest. End of story. So if we believe we are deserving of great love then we will
manifest if we believe we're going to be poor we're going to stay poor if we believe we don't
deserve something then it's not going to come to us and you know it's interesting because because
for all of us you know and we've been conditioned you know i, you were very fortunate because you had a childhood where your mind was opened,
and you were opened, and your heart was opened. And that's the biggest, biggest thing,
is to open yourself to the possibility that everything isn't the way it appears to be.
And so even if you can just open yourself to that possibility, just for a moment, you can pick
up it all the next day. You can take it all with you the next day that it's all real and everything
that you're seeing. But if you just for a moment open to the possibility that things might not be
the way that you think they are, then you have the greatest opportunity to really discover something incredible, how incredible
you are. So with the secret, yeah, I describe it really. And so I really simplify it and the
law of attraction, because I would say to anybody, if you would just think about what you want,
that's all you'd ever get in your life. It's as simple as that. But a lot of people
think a lot of negative things consistently. It's on a as that. But a lot of people think a lot of negative things. Consistently,
it's on a loop that just holds them into this negative pattern. So how do we break that
negative thought pattern? Right. So, I mean, the mind is like a computer program. And the fact
that it's on a negative loop is because we programmed it on a negative loop. But, you know, we could have been influenced when we were children and things like that. So, one of the things that the mind loves
is loves repetition. I mean, loves it. You know, if you really watch your thoughts, this is the
same old thoughts over and over again, you know, it's just kind of dishing up the same old thing.
So, it loves repetition. So, the way can overwrite a program is to put in the
opposite, you know, and when you start out, you know, you feel like you're lying, you know,
you'll say something like, you know, you might be really broke. Gee, I was when I was making
The Secret. So you might not have any money and you're trying to instill, you know, wealth and
prosperity and riches. And every time you say it, you feel a
contraction in your body because you know, you don't have it. But you know, truly, because I did
it myself, after a while, you change it, you really begin to change it. And you don't quite
have that contraction anymore. And then you start to see money coming in, you know, in different
ways. And, and, and, and, or you can be given things that you were going to buy
and now you don't have to buy it.
So you begin to see, you start to see signs of land, you know,
is one of the great new thought writers would say,
talk about a sign of land.
So you start to see sign of land.
Now, that's what I did in The Secret.
You can do gratitude. That will turn everything around.
That will make you feel good. That will get you off the negative rant. But those negative thoughts
are coming from beliefs held in the subconscious mind, right? That's where those-
Where do the beliefs stem from, for most of us?
They stem mostly from our childhood conditioning. Yeah. Somebody's
parents said something to us. We just swallowed it. Hook, line and sinker. You know, we're like,
right, that's a belief. And, and so we take it in and then we have all these beliefs that,
that, and you can hear, you know, if you, if you're talking to somebody, like if, if,
if somebody says, oh, I believe dah-da-da-da-da,
or because we say that all the time, or somebody says, I think da-da-da-da-da,
behind those two statements are going to be a belief.
And so the really interesting thing, they're hard to spot because you believe they're true.
They seem real, yeah.
So you don't think they're a belief.
You think they're real, you know, and so they can be hard to spot.
But if you start to listen to yourself, you know, I believe or I think
or especially look at the things that you have a really strong opinion about
because where you have a really strong opinion is a belief
that's underneath that.
So one of the things that in the latest book is that I
show how to show how to dissolve those beliefs. And just really by some of the things that I've
just mentioned, and you can dissolve them and you just feel free. Every time a belief goes out, you feel completely free.
You know, it's an amazing, amazing feeling.
You just feel as light as a feather and actually you feel invincible.
Yeah.
Because can you imagine, like if we have, for example,
the feeling of doubt, right, doubt and uncertainty.
Now doubt and uncertainty play a big part in
most people's lives, and that can be paralyzing those two things. So, just imagine living a life,
zero doubt, zero uncertainty. I mean, incredible. How do we get to a place of not doubting
ourselves? You can, because you need to know who you are. You need to know who you are so that you don't doubt yourself
because the one that is doubting is the ego,
the one that is doubting is the mind and it's not who we are.
So then you've got to become very aware of your thoughts.
That one that is doubting, the negative thoughts,
they're all coming from the ego, right, all of them,
because who you are would never have a negative thought ever,
ever. Who you are would never judge who you are. Who you are is allowing and accepting.
And so all of those things are coming from the ego and they are not who you are. And that voice
in your head that you hear, that voice that's so familiar to you and seems to know an awful lot about you
and sounds like you, that voice is not you. That voice is just a program.
Hmm. What was the voice that was in your head consistently pre-secret that you had to overcome
that belief? And then what's been the program? Because I feel like every new evolution of us is going to be some type of thing to overcome.
So has there been something you've had to overcome in the last 15 years post-secret to get to the next level?
Definitely negative thoughts.
Before the secret, you had a lot of negative thoughts.
Oh, heaps.
I was like everybody.
I was like everybody.
I was just like, oh, I was pointing out all the things that were wrong.
And somehow I was kind of brought up, and I think a lot of us are,
that you're a good person if you point out the things that are wrong, you know.
You have to speak up and say that's wrong.
You know, that shouldn't be happening.
And so I was kind of brought up with that too
and so that's brought up with judgment and that does not help us at all judgment we need to put
it in the trash because that does that does not belong with us and the one who is judging is the
ego that's it's the ego it's judging the one that has negative thoughts is the ego. So,
so I had all of that going on. You know, I had doubt, I had uncertainty, I had feelings of
unworthiness. I had heaps of stress. Oh my God. Heaps of stress. I was like living on the edge,
you know, I was like this with life, like white like white knuckles you know what's going to happen next you know something bad's going to happen and being really afraid
it's you know something's going to happen to somebody I love or so I mean I live my life
like that and and I think everybody does and it and they just kind of keep it all squashed down
you know and but most people live their life that way. And I mean, you know,
in the last year, if you've been terrified, you know, in the last year, and really fearful in
the last year, you know, all of that fear has been given to you as this lovely gift, you know,
when you were maybe a child, and it's like, here's a whole lot of things to be fearful about.
And, and then we go through fear.
And, I mean, it's very easy to see that there's no pandemic
that is fear, a fear-based pandemic.
Why do we know that?
Because there are many people who are not afraid.
And so if the pandemic was, you know,
in the world was actually a real fear manifestation, then every single person on the planet would be fearful.
And while there are a lot of people fearful, there are still a lot who are not.
So that just shows you that the fear was already here with us, you know, before the pandemic came along.
Right.
Yeah.
the pandemic came along. Right. Yeah. What was the, what was the belief that you still had to overcome post-secret because you overcame a lot to be able to create something like that. There
was this incredible movement, but then were there other negative beliefs that still held you back?
Oh yeah. The biggest one, the biggest one was that I was abundant. That was the biggest one.
That was your limiting belief? Yeah. That was the one I had been brought up with.
We can't afford it.
We don't have enough, you know, and money would come into my hands.
It would slip through my fingers.
You know, things would break down.
The universe would do all these things to get the money out of my hands.
It would just like take it away.
Yeah, because I had this belief that I did not have an abundant amount of money and
that I was always in struggle. And that came from my parents, bless them, you know, they're beautiful.
But that came from them, you know, we can't afford it and all of those things. So I was
brought up with that as many of us are. So the one that I had the biggest thing to overcome, the belief, the biggest thing to overcome was the belief in lack of money.
And I knew I needed to overcome that for the secret to sweep the world.
To be able to attract and bring you.
Yeah, because if I didn't overcome that, how could it possibly?
Why would money come to you then?
Exactly. Yeah. So I had to overcome it. How did you overcome that? I mean,
how do you overcome the fear of lack, of not having enough? I'm not worthy of money. How do we
finally transition into abundance? I did that by many, many things. I tried many things.
I did that by many, many things.
I tried many things, all kinds of, I was experimenting with it.
So, I mean, I would just walk down the street and say,
there's prosperity out there.
I'm breathing in prosperity.
I'd do all these affirmations.
You know, I'm breathing in prosperity with every breath I take.
My substance is prosperity.
I am abundant.
I am worthy, you know.
And so I would say all these affirmations,
I would have them all pinned up around the apartment that I was staying in so that I would see them
and read them every day.
So that was just one thing I did.
Then what I would do, the biggest thing was because
at the time I was in incredible debt.
I was making the secret and I just didn't have the money to make it.
Wow.
And I started out $2 million in debt, mind you, because of a whole lot of shows that went really wrong.
Because you were producing TV shows at the time.
Yeah, I was.
And so, I mean, $2 million in debt makes it sound like I had a lot of money.
I never had anything like that money.
But these particular movies that we're making, they ran over budget.
And so I started with $2 million in debt.
I remember I discovered the secret and I went to my accountant and I said,
you have to do whatever it takes to keep my company afloat.
I'm going to make something that's going to change the world.
I'm going to make it you keep my company going. And. I'm going to make it. You keep my company going.
And so, you know, and he just said, he just said, okay.
And so I took out, oh my gosh, I maxed every credit card I had to the limit.
I mortgaged my home to the absolute limit.
I took overdrafts out on my company so I could make the documentary.
Wow.
And so I had crushing debt coming in on me and I needed more money to keep making it.
So it was a journey of absolute luck, you know, and the luck was just an expression
of what I'd been brought up with.
So I had to turn that around.
So one of the things I did, like when I would go and get,
you used to get, then you would get your bills
or accounts in the mail.
You know, it wasn't all online.
And so I'd go to the mobile and, you know,
and straight away my stomach would like,
and if anybody's been in that situation where you just don't have
enough money and you've got
all these bills it's a horrible feeling you know and my my whole body would contract and I would
know that is attracting a lack of money and that's not attracting abundance so I used to do this
thing whereby I would do gratitude and and I would listen to music and I would do all of as many things as I could until I felt
really, really good. And I would just say to myself, I am abundant and nothing would object.
No thought would object. And I'm like, right, now's the time to open the mail, right? I'm
feeling really, really good. And so then I would open the bills and i would look at each one as though it was a check i would imagine
it's a wow not a bill so you played a game in your mind and you're like okay here's my mind so powerful
although you cannot change conditions or circumstance you don't have to let them
control you we can't control what's going on outside but we can control
what's going on inside you know and unfortunately i don't think many of us have been raised to really
understand that yeah and it's a lack of understanding that's causing all our problems
you know but how i mean how can you say that to someone who's like well i don't feel like i have control on the inside when it seems like everything has power over me what's something they could
start you know you see the truth is for for that person that would be true that they're being
controlled by outside we look at it this way we are the only creature on the planet that's totally disoriented in our
environment. All the little squirrels, the birds, all the animals are completely at home in their
environment. They blend in. You and I are totally disoriented in our environment. We've been given
the mental faculties to create our
own environment. However, we go right through school and we've never learned that.
We have higher faculties and the average person has no knowledge of how to operate with them,
how to develop them. We have perception, the will, reason, imagination, memory, and intuition.
Now, those mental faculties, they're not just words.
They're actually mental faculties that we can use to take control over our world and to create
the environment that we want. But unfortunately, we grow up, we don't know that. We've been raised
to live through by what we see, hear, smell, taste, and touch, our physical senses. And we've been raised
to be controlled by what's going on outside. As little kids, will you listen to what I'm telling
you? Will you look at this? And so it's all outside. We get our report card and that tells
us what kind of student we are. But it really tells us where our mind was at for a few minutes three weeks ago.
Got nothing to do with who we are. So I think we're raised in ignorance, actually.
There's a very small percentage of the population that have a reasonably clear understanding of who
they are and what they're capable of doing, But the ones that do are in the minority.
Our whole company has been dedicated to teaching that to people for the last 50-some years.
Powerful.
You talked about the five faculty, the five mental faculties, and I even touched on this
briefly in our previous interview.
But I'm curious.
I have a new question for you.
Which of the faculties typically is the hardest to, I guess, master or, you know, become efficient in to use to your advantage in a positive way?
And which is the one that you feel like hurts us the most when we don't master?
Well, I think reason is probably, it's the one that's spoken about by almost all the great leaders.
Yeah.
They've all been complete and unanimous agreement that we become what we think about.
It's our reasoning factor that enables us to think.
Ford says thinking is the hardest work there is, which is the probable reason so few people
engage in it.
Dr. Ken McFarland, who's gone for a long time now,
but he was a great educator down in Kentucky,
he one time said 2% of the people think, 3% think they think,
and 95% would actually rather die than think.
Now, you know, that sounds cute, but it's true.
If you stop and listen to what most people are saying,
it's going to be fairly obvious they're not thinking. If you stand back and watch what
most people are doing, it's fairly obvious they're not thinking, but they would never say or do what
they're doing. Most people today have their television on the news and they're just soaking up all the stuff
that's going on that's dominating the media right now so they've become a play thing for what's
going on outside and that's why they're living in such fear. By consuming the media of whether it's true or accurate or not true,
you're being manipulated in a sense.
Yeah.
It's not a matter of whether it's true or not.
Is this how you want to spend your life, just listening to that?
That doesn't mean you should deny it.
It doesn't mean that you should say, well, that's all false.
I don't know whether it's true or false.
It's just bad news.
I don't want to be involved in it.
Am I aware that it's there?
Well, you'd almost have to be dead not to be aware that it's there.
But that doesn't mean you have to spend your time thinking on that.
I would much rather activate some of my creative faculties
and do something that's constructive.
In a time under crisis and worry and fear for a lot of people,
what should we be thinking about?
How should we be using our imagination in different ways as opposed to fixating
on the bad news?
Well,
I think a good idea right now would be spend some time thinking about how are we going to adapt when this is gone.
Because we're going to live in a different world.
We're not going to be in the same world when this is all blown over than we're in right now.
It's going to be quite different.
People are not going to be rushing out to big events where there's a
lot of people. They're not going to be rushing to restaurants. I think they're going to be
very careful about what they do, where they think, and where they're going.
I was listening to Sinek, and he said, if you're a public speaker, don't look for a stage for a little while because you're not going to have one.
Now, this also presents great opportunities.
It's for us, for my company, we're going online, you know, full speed ahead. Now, fortunately, we built the studio four or five years ago. So,
you're prepared. We're equipped and we're ready. Yeah. We can broadcast. We had a training class
going in here just last week with about 300 of our consultants from all over the world.
We had a three-day training program for them.
And it was very effective. You didn't have to come together. We did it from right here.
Yeah. I mean, you're known for doing these powerful transformational workshops in person.
So for someone, I mean, it's very inspiring for me, for someone at your age, where would be the excuse of most people your age to say, well, I don't understand this technology thing. And I've been doing this, this way of business for so long. It's always worked
this way. And I'm not going to try to reinvent or evolve and pivot and grow in this way. So it's
really inspiring to see someone of your age with your level of experience to say, you know what,
I'm embracing it. Maybe I don't like it. Maybe you do like it, but you're embracing it and making
the most of it as opposed to resisting. Because what happens when we start to resist in our life?
What truly happens? Well, we resist it. We create it in our mind. That's all we think about.
You see, I guess my age really has nothing to do with it, but I formed that attitude a long time ago.
Yeah.
I didn't like the idea that when you've lived for so long, you've got to cut out,
you've got to stop. I thought, hell, I don't like that idea at all. First of all, I think we're,
I believe we're here to do God's work. God's work is creation, expansion, fuller expression, greater goodness.
And if we're going to do that, we're going to be working at it all the time we're here on this planet. We never stop. So, age should have no bearing on it. I had a couple of people ask me
when we started to build this place,
we put a couple of million dollars into this and somebody said, how old are you?
And I think I was probably 83 when they started to break ground. They said, you're 83 and you're
gonna spend two million dollars building a studio? I said, yeah, like why not? I mean,
I said, yeah, like, why not?
I mean, you see, we let things that really have no concern,
we let them bother us, we let them control us.
Age is a dumb thing to let control you.
It's our thinking that controls everything.
That's the one point every great leader agreed on.
We become what we think about,
well, what's a person thinking? I'm thinking if I get old, I got to stop. Well, then you'll stop.
Or I'm thinking, well, if I've been here a long time, I've got a lot of experience.
I want to utilize that experience to keep me going as long as I am here.
I mean, anybody had their head screwed on right a few years ago would know that this thing is going to take over.
And if we don't learn how to use it, we're toast.
So, you know, I was doing seminars on my iPad because I can run it right on to monitor an outstripped in the universe.
Yeah.
What should we be thinking about the most right now in your mind?
I think we should be thinking about our future.
I think we should be thinking about the greatness,
like it's the school of greatness.
I think we ought to be thinking about the greatness that we've got locked up within us and bring it to the surface.
Everyone has deep reservoirs of talent and ability within them.
And they can bring it to the surface to accomplish anything they want.
Now to sit in fear and wonder what's going to happen,
that is a dumb waste of your talent and your time.
Yeah.
And unfortunately, that's what most of the media is promoting right now.
To believe in fear is to believe in something you can't see.
To believe in faith is to believe in something you can't see.
Well, if you have a choice, I think I'd choose faith over fear.
Absolutely.
I think I believe where I can really see something happen.
I believe we're going to have a phenomenal year in our company.
In fact, I have a business partner, Sandy Gallagher, and a very bright lady,
was a securities attorney prior to joining us.
She ran a program this morning for our entire company. We have about
70 people in the company. She was teaching masterminding to them all and saying how this
is important that every one of us get involved in this, that we learn the basics of masterminding
that Napoleon Hill brought to the world, let's say, way back in the 30s.
Now, I think that's what we should be teaching people.
Sandy was on the right track there.
So I think we ought to be thinking about what we're going to build.
How big are we going to do it?
Where are we going to do it?
When are we going to start?
Our goals have
not changed. They're very big. They're very ambitious. And we're not letting this virus
slow us down one bit. As a matter of fact, we're trying to figure out how can we use this to speed
it up. Since it's here and you can't get rid of it, use it to your advantage. There is a way we
can use it to our advantage. People are a way we can use it to our advantage.
People are more dependent upon the phone. I've got a computer here. They're dependent on their
phone, their computer, more than they've ever been. We can reach them anywhere in the world
through those meetings. Yeah, use them to your advantage. You talked about fear for a second.
I'm curious, when we live in a state of fear, what does that do to us? And when
we, the second part to this, when we feel that fear and we become aware of it, what should we be
thinking or doing or acting on in order to shift into a more positive state? You know, that is one
hell of a good question. And it's a question most people are not able to answer. First of all,
the cause of fear is ignorance. That is the cause of fear. And so if you follow the ignorance,
it doesn't start out as fear. The ignorance starts out in a conscious level as doubt and worry.
That's on a conscious level. We're doubting or we're worrying then we take whatever image comes
into our consciousness of the doubt and the worry and we turn it over to our emotional mind that's
what causes the fear well that fear then has to be expressed through the body through the only
instrument it can be expressed through our physical body. It sets up a vibration known as anxiety.
Anxiety is not expressed. Anxiety becomes suppressed. We suppress it. And the suppression then turns to depression, which turns to disease, which turns to decay. You see,
you're talking about a track a person gets on. It's a very negative track.
It's ignorance, don't worry, fear, anxiety, suppression, depression, disease, disintegration.
Now, the polar opposite of all that, the opposite of ignorance is knowledge.
There's only one way to get to knowledge, and that is to study.
Now, unfortunately, school didn't do the job that it was designed to do for most of us.
School should teach us to love to study. Not to dread studying and homework and tests.
They should teach us to love it because study leads to the opposite of don't worry, which is understanding.
See, it's study that leads to understanding.
We understand how to handle the fear.
It's understanding that enables us to cause us to understand where the fear starts. The understanding, then we want to say, what do we understand?
We want to understand this whole universe operates by law. One of the laws is the law of opposite.
The opposite of don't worry is understanding. Now, if the don't worry leads to fear, what's understanding leads to?
Understanding leads to faith.
The faith leads to expression, well-being, and expression.
It's not depression.
It's not suppression.
It's not anxiety. The faith leads to well-being
the well-being then is expression acceleration because we're at ease we're not at there's not
disease so you're dealing with polar opposites there's two different sides to things
and when we understand that, our world starts to change.
It's by understanding that that we learn how to deal with these pandemics when they hit,
and they will hit. There will be others. There always has been, all down through history. If
you look back, there's been things like this happen in the past, and unfortunately, the masses
are sort of paralyzed by it.
Yeah. Why do we do that as people? Why do we feed people more of what scares them as opposed to what
you and I do, which is- Because that's what people want. That's what they buy. People don't buy good
news. People buy bad news. Why though? Can you imagine if everybody that tunes into CNN
tuned into the school of greatness
every week? It'd be amazing. Can you imagine if everybody that tunes into Fox tuned into your
school of greatness every week? Have you any idea the impact you could have on the world?
That's what we're trying to do. It'd be enormous. It'd be enormous. People want bad news. It
resonates with where their mind is programmed
they're programmed with negative information their paradigm is all bad news it's what we're
programmed with now is everybody new there's a small select group of people that don't fall
into that category and they are always working diligently trying to lift everybody up. It's not an easy thing to do.
But every now and then, well, a Lewis Howes would come along and start a school of greatness.
And he'll call in different people that feed into that concept, that are in harmony with that, that resonate with that.
And so it makes it interesting for the listener.
And then that's how it goes.
And that's what you're doing.
And that's what I'm doing.
And it's not a losing battle it just appears like it is i'm winning yeah i think you're winning now we're not we're not drawing the numbers that cnn's drawing but the ones we draw
are saying absolutely you got it you got it We're making an impact on them for sure.
I'm curious. I want to ask you more about self-doubt because this is something I've
been fascinated with for the last few years as I spent most of my life dealing with trying to
understand how to overcome doubting myself and achieve the sports goals, business goals,
doubting myself and achieve the sports goals, business goals, relationship goals that I had throughout my younger years. And I became obsessed with learning how to eliminate doubt.
And I've been researching this more and just trying to learn from people like yourself
on how you have dealt with self-doubt over the years and how you think anyone who feels like
they're doubting themselves, what can they do to go from doubt into confidence? What do you think is the path?
Okay. That's a good question. It ties in with the previous question you asked.
What do we do with fear? Fear comes from the doubt. So the doubt becomes the cause of the fear,
which is the cause of the anxiety, et cetera. The doubt is the cause. Fear is the effect.
The doubt is the cause, fear is the effect. What is the polar opposite to doubt? Understanding.
It's understanding. That's the opposite of doubt. So what is it we want to understand? Well,
if it's me that's entertaining doubt, why am I entertaining doubt? If I were to find out who I really am, and I believe everything that's been
taught down through the centuries, I would have no doubt. I would be realizing that I could do
anything. And the only thing that's causing the doubt is lack of understanding. So I'm going to
keep studying. I'll gain a better understanding. I don't doubt myself. I don't doubt what I can do.
Does that mean that I can do everything? No. When doubt appears, I'll eliminate it and I'll
eliminate it fast because I'm going to figure out how to do whatever it is I'm doubting.
Yeah. And you see, if it's me that I'm doubting, it's because I don't understand me well enough.
I did a broadcast the other day,
it was all over the place, we had thousands into it, on self-image. And we've got to get a better
image of ourself. We have to get a true image of ourself, understand who we are, how our mind
functions. Realize this physical instrument we're living in is nothing but an instrument. It's the instrument of the mind.
And the mind expresses itself with and through this thing we call our body.
Well, let's understand that better.
This thing, you're going to have power in your one hand to light up that building you're in for probably a month.
Wow.
There's about 11 million kilowatt hours per pound potential energy locked up in the
electrons and the atoms of the body. Well, that's the invisible power that's in me.
I want to understand that better. That's the physical side. What's the higher side? Higher
side is my intellectual side. And that is the intellectual factors that I run through earlier,
perception, will, reason, imagination, memory, and intuition. There's six of them. And as I understand those more, as I understand my
intellectual factors, I'm using the things that I'm utilizing and developing the things
that separate me from all the rest of the animal kingdom of which I'm a part.
Then I can tap into the spiritual essence of who I am
because we're spiritual beings.
And that's where the greatness lies.
How you hypnotize yourself for success,
what that was like, and I guess just that process.
Look, I think the vision at a young age wasn't,
I wouldn't call it as much.
It was the early development of manifestation.
And it was drawing, I have a self-portrait of myself from when I'm 14 years old where it's me.
This is no joke.
It is me in a matching hat and shoes, like with a skateboard on the side all of these like this art easel and then just
stacks and stacks of money really and i drew this i hand drew it right and it's like the most
fascinating aspect is it's this bizarre matching hat to shoes combo you know and and to me like I always like could feel intuitively the law of attraction
really and so even when I look at like I needed I I was lost at 25 years old when I was like
searching for some sort of way to I was like a fix to help like redirect me and get me
uh re-motivated and refocused.
And that's why I was looking for a hypnotist, right?
And then I found a hypnotist who was at the Scripps La Jolla Hospital.
And like, and so to me, I'm like, okay, this is a,
this is like a clinical psychologist hypnotist.
This is real, right?
And so when I got in there.
Not some stage performer.
Yeah.
And so to me, it was like, like when I got in there, I performer yeah and so to me it was like like
when i got in there i was like looking for like you know give me make me focused on skateboarding
so i can win contests like you know whatever my vision was and he immediately did this test and
said you don't believe you were meant to be successful at your subconscious level and so
that's what he discovered after doing some tests. And then the initial hypnosis was just reinforcing at the subconscious level that I was meant to be successful.
Right. That I believe that. Right.
How do you believe how do you learn to believe that if you hadn't believed it until then?
And look, I would say that I had I grew it and built it at an early age and was starting to lose it.
Okay.
So you got it, which made you a professional at 16 and kind of go to the next level.
But then somewhere you lost it.
Right.
He reinforced it and then boom, you know.
And most recently I went to his house, you know, like a year ago.
Really?
Yeah, I went to his house.
He's like this hypnotist now, his lifelong friend.
You know what I mean?
I found him in the Yellow Pages. What's free internet. The great Dr. George Pratt. And so, you know, I will, you know, I've sent friends there. I go see him all the time. You know, on my five year anniversary, he presided over the five year anniversary of our when we renewed our vows.
but I'm like hey can you just give me a check real quick I just want to verify that I'm going to be a billionaire he's like come on in here he's like come on stop it you know that's going
to happen wow like him like his like psychological power he's like stop it and it's just like you're
right Dr. George but look I think even you know we were both in in Think and Grow Rich that I
had we had shot before we did the initial interview together, too.
He was in the movie?
No, no, you.
Me and you.
Oh, yeah, yeah, gotcha, yeah.
Right?
And it was, even back then, like, now I'm evolving and getting more intuitive of things, being attracted to me.
But it wasn't until 2018.
I was in a bit of a, you know, like, a bit of a pit of chaos, right?
Because here's these great plans that I have built
that were unfolding.
2016, it was all coming alive, right?
Our interview was at peak youthful energy
of like, the world is mine.
I just moved to Beverly Hills.
I'm having my first child.
Got my new office in Beverly Hills.
Like my forever estates just launched the machine that month, all of these things like I'm gonna build and sell all these companies still had never done it
Just the vision the hope everything the energy of what was going to become be in and so
But in
2018 like things got sideways. The energy got sideways.
How so?
Was this the NBC show that didn't work out?
No, this was them talking about ridiculousness going away.
Really?
And I had built Super Jacket for it to be acquired, and it was just like, wow.
It's like this entire thing that I've got built up, and this is the first company I'm building to sell is going to kind of
drift away here and my wife suggested like why don't we just watch The Secret wow and so I'm
like you know like what you know and I kind of remember The Secret you know I sort of like
remember The Secret and then I mean the 15 minutes, it just shifted my being.
Really?
It shifted my being in a way of thinking of, like, stop it.
Like, look at who you are, what you've done, and look at, like, the good that has constantly, like, found its way to you.
Don't lose sight of that.
Like, and I began to practice belief.
and I began to practice belief and
Literally like a month later my my internal medicine specialist is talking about meditation And I'm like I have to meditate and she's like oh I in my office
We have this new company that has these meditation pods the soma dome right and I'm like can I try it out and?
Inside this soma dome?
it's a guided meditation about manifestation really and so
What I started doing in 2018 is I was like, I'm not going to like hope for the law of attraction
I'm going to begin to practice it. So I would go to sleep every night watching the secret
So it was the last thing I went to bed. And then when I would get up in the morning, I would get in my dome, right?
And I would just like think of all the things I wanted to happen, right?
And so instead of thinking in 2018 when they were talking about ending ridiculousness
and I was in season 12, I decided I wasn't going to manifest season 13.
I kept manifesting walking onto stage introducing season 30.
Holy cow.
So you weren't thinking about the next season.
You were thinking about 20 seasons away.
Right, right. seasons away right right and and so for me like like it then um evolved and like it literally
began it was like the the the seas began to part right because what happened is because i own the
production now i was able to negotiate directly with the head of the network on the unit economics of the show rather than talent and producing fees and so we got to a place where we decided from a
business perspective what was best for the network and the of the ever-changing
landscape of linear cable and I gave him the problem I gives me the price you
want and then let me go and try to make it happen because you used to have a
talent feed that was bigger than you you said, let's work.
And somebody else would produce it.
Now I produce the entire thing, own the entire production.
So I understood where all the opportunity was to get it to his cost.
And that, it's a nuance now, right?
So I negotiated with him on the unit economics where most, like even big celebrities and
producers are
still like like it's fees you know like you don't have the ability to get in that into depth because
you don't you don't understand or own the production company at that level and so it goes
from right there i got it to his number we negotiated and i was getting 30 episode seasons at a time back then and i said
i can only do this price if we get to 42 episodes and you got to pick up multiple seasons wow and
i was hoping for two he picked up four right and so it went from thinking that it was
completely um like i'm gonna have to regroup and like like television's over here to like from thinking that it was completely like,
I'm going to have to regroup and like, like television's over here to like,
now you're shooting 186,
right?
Like,
and the beauty of it was,
is I had built the company up to that point.
You needed three years of EBITDA to take it to market and sell it.
The entire plan was like,
we got to get through the third year and take it to market.
And on the third year, they were like, we don't think the show's coming back.
Basically like, okay, that means the production company is going out of business after I was
getting ready to take it to market and be my big first win. And instead that 186 order,
I took it straight to market. Now I took it to market. Here's the three years in EBITDA.
And we have the biggest order in the history of cable television, right?
That's the biggest order?
One of the biggest ones, right?
And so that is how huge that changed.
And then what happens?
Now they have more episodes.
They air more.
It gets this new, entirely new life.
Then they're like, can we get more?
Really? entirely new life then they're like can we get more then by the by the following year
you know and keep in mind at that time i sold the company what year is this now uh the company
was acquired in 2019 right so um and then it was like it had this explosion so then it's like how
many can you uh give us and i'm like so i went through all time
management all aspect because keep in mind i'm still doing all of this while living super balanced
happy normal life so i could do 250 max 250 in a year yeah and then i was like but in order to do
that like can you pick up two years and then they were like what no brainer let's do it so they then
ordered 500 500 eps yes in two years in two years and that put me to 30 seasons right so it's like
so you know oh my goodness and again so you're visualizing 30 visual Visualizing 30. And I'll tell you one thing. I actually spent some time with the great Dr. Joey Dispenza.
And the one thing I heard from him is this idea of don't try to think it, try to feel it.
When you're trying to tap into the quantum field and generate energy and the law of attraction,
the things that you are thinking about, think about the feeling.
That's why I went through the feeling of what it feels like to be on stage.
Welcome to season 30.
So it's a much more richer sort of existence.
So now it's like i practice it
every single day i am i am in um you know that soma dome meditation pod like feeling what i want
to happen seven days a week almost never miss a day right and i track it super extensively and like literally it's like 97
96 like almost every like like 97 of this entire year i have been in there just visualizing what
i want to happen i gotta get one of these domes yeah look it's not look keep it keep in mind like
that's think how hard it is to just meditate every day. That's so hard. Right? Think about how hard it is to just do anything healthy every day.
For five, ten minutes.
You know what I mean?
It's a, I didn't do it overnight.
I had to grow into it.
It's a muscle.
Getting that level of discipline, being able to commit to it.
You need to do it over and over.
You go through your highs and lows.
You stop for a little bit.
You go back to it.
You stop.
You go through your highs and lows.
You stop for a little bit.
You go back to it.
You stop.
It goes like that until you finally grow the muscle of the consistency and the discipline to where it turns into a way of life.
Yeah.
I just don't.
Now I can't even imagine not doing it.
If I don't do it in a day, I'm like, oh, we're all my dreams.
How important is it for people to feel what they want to manifest on a daily basis then,
as opposed to once in a while?
I mean, look, I'm living proof that you can exponentially accelerate towards it if it's part of your focus.
Where do you think you'd be if you didn't do that on a daily basis?
It's hard to say.
And go to sleep almost every night watching The Secret or something like that.
Look, I've been falling asleep to a lot of Jim Rohn, this old Jim Rohn, this old school sort of, his sort of philosophy that's also super sharp.
Because, because what I've just found is, is like, you're like this, you know, I'm going to fall asleep instantly, right?
I'm going to fall asleep instantly, right?
Like I sleep pure and quick, but it's like, like, let me be in this like sort of growth mindset as I'm like drifting off asleep to like set the tone right for, for what it is.
So I don't know.
And it's, again, I think with a lot of stuff that I do, it's extreme, right?
It's like so extreme.
Like you track every minute of your life, like tracking all every minute of my life,
having the qualitative data of every single day, asking myself how I feel about my life, 0 to 10, of life, work, and health.
The beauty of that is it is a clear indication of the quality of your life.
Yes.
And I see direct correlation to my discipline on my quantitative stuff. Did I get up
at five? Did I brain train? Did I meditate? Did I get in the gym? Did I have a clean diet? Did I
not drink? You could look straight up the line and look at the qualitative numbers and they are
one for one, right? And at scale, right? You see you've gamified your discipline.
Yes.
And in a sense, you've gamified driving the quality of your life.
What does that do?
What do all those things actually deliver to you?
You're just happier.
You're more fulfilled.
You feel better about yourself.
You have more confidence.
You have more belief.
All of these things.
But again, I started it in 2015.
I wasn't I was never able to do an entire year until 2020. It took me five years to do an entire
year now in 2021. I set my goals in 2021 based off of having an entire year of this data to be like
I'm going to average 20 points above on the quality of this data to be like I'm going to average 20 points above
on the quality of life qualitative data and I'm going to be 80% on my health balance quantitative
stuff and that's what I committed to only I am currently at like 21 and like 95 it just wow it
like once I gamified it and now I'm playing the stats, it made me even that much more disciplined and excited and energetic to stay more disciplined, which in turn gives you more energy, you know, it really is a compound effect in all aspects of your life if you see your life as and build this great foundation that you grow
into the ideal version of yourself.
Yes.
Because that's ultimately everybody's goal, you know.
If you could only do five things on a daily basis that would set you up for freedom, success,
abundance, what would those five things be?
I mean, to me, it my the core five that i do i'll skip brain train
because that's just more like a discipline thing for fun uh but you get up early you know like
like lately i've been getting up at 4 and 4 30 because it's like you you get so much out of
being highly organized and having time to get a ton of stuff executed before the chaos starts,
right? Because I don't care who you are, the chaos starts, you know, in my case, it starts at seven,
the moment my kids get up. So everything that I can get done ahead of them is essential, right?
And including free thinking and ideating and all these things that get lost when you're just going from thing to thing to thing and exhausted.
And then like veg out, get up, go thing to thing to thing, right?
The life force is constantly recalibrating and getting clarity on where your head is as part of it.
But one for sure, get up early.
Meditate, you know, and everybody does it in a lot of different ways,
but meditation for me isn't get quiet and breathe.
I put headphones on, I get in a dome,
and I listen to a guided manifestation meditation.
That's basically reinforcing my drive and ambition
and hopes and dreams rather than
trying to like, like bring peace. And it's a different style. But I think anytime
you just take that like 20 minutes to be outside of your body and ultimately the reality, if you
will, is, is, is a great reset. And, you know, I think, you know, number one, far, you will, is a great reset. And I think number one, far and above, is diet.
I don't care.
If I could boil down the core of my happiness, the core of my execution,
it is literally clean diet.
Right. And it also compounds.
And it's and it goes it compounds back and forth.
Right. Because like you you can get clean and get a big momentum and you can just start to eat lightly bad and you just level off.
You know, I mean, you definitely can't go a layer deeper but it is of course the hardest one
to maintain it's the battle between the upper self and lower self right it is that that that
pure battle of like you know you know you shouldn't be doing it but like you just can't
stop it then once you start it here's the problem for someone like me i have to create all this
discipline and gamify it to protect me from me because I will
start to dip down. To justify, yeah, yeah. I'll dip down and then I'll do like fake health for a
while, right? And then I'll be like, after my wife's birthday, then I'm going to get focused
again. You're always like breaking that battle between my upper and lower self is, you know, I would say even this year is probably the only year and I was committed to it again because I had the data and like now seeing like gamifying it is like I just want my body composition this.
You know what I mean?
Like I swear like normally it would like literally summer dip back all composition this you know what i mean like because no i swear like
normally it would it would like literally summer dip back oh back up in the winter starting over
january 1 it's almost like in december it's just pizza and wine and cheese and cookies
and to me it's like how do you do you do an 80 20 approach to that do you have a cheap day like
how do you make sure you're not this disciplined freak of nature all day long and not also enjoying moments of...
Yeah, I try to, like, not put a...
I just try not to lose control.
Yeah.
Right?
And then I keep a foundation of...
And my foundation is just chicken, vegetables, right?
And intermittent fasting.
That's it. Right? So I just... No rice, right? And intermittent fasting. That's it.
Right?
So I just no rice, no bread, no snacks.
Chicken and vegetables at like 10 or 11.
Chicken and vegetables at like 3 or 4.
And then, okay, it's date night.
Like I'm going to go with the wife and we're going to go movie.
I'll have popcorn, right?
Like it's your
baseline yes that you can commit to and then it's your now it's a battle between
your upper and lower self where do I lose it I in the spring when I went on
vacation so I had to and I got back into that same mode where I like I I dipped
so quick and it was a five-day trip to combo. And I'm in a dogfight.
It felt like I was fighting to get back to that extraordinary discipline.
And even with this much discipline, I was still fighting it.
And wavered throughout the summer.
But stayed committed to let's be this year.
Look at how disciplined, how much better you feel about life, all the things that are happening to you.
Like, let this be the beginning.
At year five, I finally had like a pure year that I envisioned in 2016 that I was trying to sell to you that I was going to develop and be.
And it took five years.
And I just think that's another testament of like, you're talking, I'm so disciplined.
I'm so committed.
Yet I still highs and lows and chaos.
Like it took me five years before I, well, really four years into the fifth year before
I really got there.
You know what I mean?
well, really four years into the fifth year before I really got there.
You know what I mean?
Which is just a testament to like having a plan and knowing that, hey,
it's a, you're going to grow into this over the next 25 years, not try to do it over six months, one year, two years, three years.
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