The Sevan Podcast - #326 - David Rush

Episode Date: March 10, 2022

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Hey, David. Good morning. Let me fix my earphones here. Ah, there you are. Thanks for coming on, man. You bet. Looking forward to it today. Holy cow.

David Rush. If you have not been to the David Rush YouTube channel, you should go there now and you should go there with your kids. I've been having a blast with you, buddy. You are a man on a mission. Are you still on that mission? You know, I haven't given up yet yeah i'm still going after some more records are you the um in one of the videos in 2021 i heard you say that you might be the third most guinness records in the book for an individual do you know where you rank amongst that and did i hear that correctly i i believe so, yeah. Guinness doesn't track this anymore.

They don't award a record for the most records, so it's not to be self-referential. But I do have a way to look up how many records each person currently holds, and I'm currently number three on that list. With currently held records, that means I've broken them, they've been approved by Guinness, and nobody else has broken them. It's about 110. But you've held as many as 200? I've broken over 200 records. Some of those I've rebroken or some of them I've lost. Okay.

Okay. Interesting. Interesting. Hey, I know from your site, you are a gentleman. You seem to care a lot about kids, so I apologize for my crass language, but that seems like complete horseshit that they don't track the person who has the most records. That's insanity to me. Well, they know it, but they don't award a Guinness World Record for the most Guinness World Records,

so as not to be self-referential. Sorry, now we're about to go down a rabbit hole as opposed to and why would be i was thinking that they didn't want to do it because they didn't they thought maybe it would be dangerous to encourage that but but what do they mean self-referential like who cares referencing themselves yeah why not do you know what i'm saying like i there's got it well i guess then you could just it could just be endless you could be like well the book that has the most that documents the most world records is the guinness book world records i guess maybe there's no end to it i don't know it seems odd

to me i really like i really like that as a record yeah the other the other issue is not all records are made equal i mean i've made broken 200 world records but there might be one record that one person broke that's more impressive than all the ones i broke and put together all right all right all right i won't i won't beat a dead horse maybe i'll circle back to it hey uh what's interesting is i had a um i've had a whole this show's had a whole variety of people on it and yesterday we um had patrick bett david on it he is is a businessman entrepreneur. And I was reading his book, Your Next Five Moves. But I think one of the things that I remember seeing in the book is, is that if someone has a reason for doing something, they have endless energy.

And not only do you have, and this may be, well, we'll find out if you push back. But not only do you have a reason, but you have a chip on your shoulder from the second grade. Chip on your shoulder might be a little bit strong, but you had something happen to you in the second grade, and also now you have a reason, a very noble reason. Can you talk about that, about breaking your records? Yeah, for sure. So I break these records to promote STEM education, science, technology, engineering, math, and the reason we need that is those are the, you know, Glassdoor published a couple weeks ago that the number one job in America and 24 out of the top 50 require STEM degrees. These are the jobs that pay the best, that are the hardest to fill. They give you the most work-life balance, the most flexibility. And the problem is there's just a shortage of people going into those fields.

And one of the problems is the STEM subjects are hard, math, science, engineering, and a student will fail a math test or struggle at science. And they'll have this fixed mindset that says, you know, I'm not a math person. I could never become an engineer. And Stanford psychologist Carol Dweck talks about this in a book called Mindset. And you can either have a fixed mindset or a growth mindset. And in a fixed mindset, and you can either have a fixed mindset or a growth mindset. And in a fixed mindset, you're born with talent, skills, and ability innate to you. And all you have to do is discover how good you are at those things. Like you take a test or you have somebody tell you, you try it out and he's like, I'm good at this or I'm not. And if you're not good at it, don't try it because you're not ever going to be good at it. But in a growth mindset is this idea that you can become

better at anything with no hard upper limit. And so this is what I'm espousing, this growth mindset and showing with a tangible example that if you set your mind to a goal, believe in yourself and pursue with passion, you can accomplish virtually anything. And in second grade, I tried out for the gifted program in school. I took a test. I didn't get in. I wasn't smart enough. Does that mean I couldn't become smart if I tried hard? Well, I kept trying. And by fifth grade, I did get in, but just for math. Does that mean I couldn't be good at science or history or language or literature? Well, I kept working hard. And by the time I graduated from high school, I was admitted into MIT, where I got my electrical engineering degree. And so I had this progression of being not smart enough to get

into the gifted program in the public education system in Idaho to go into the top engineering school in the world. And how did that happen? It's because I believed I could get better. And I tell you, if I'd have believed in second grade when I took that test that I wasn't smart, I can guarantee you I wouldn't have gotten an MIT. But I didn't let that test define me to saying I can't do those things. I just kept working hard through it. And I'm 37 years old. And what if I told you the day I turned, and I told you I've broken over 200 Guinness World Records. And what if I told you the day I turned 30, I had zero world records? And how old are you now? How old are you now?

37, 37. And at the age of 30 is when I started breaking. What changed? It's not like I developed some sort of superhuman strength or ability at the age of 30 as I developed this growth mindset. Um, and it's also not that I just decided I wanted to break the Guinness world record at that point too, because I dreamed about this since I was a kid. I mean, that was like the pinnacle. That would be so cool if I could break a Guinness world record. And I even gave it, it you know I half tried for a few records when I was a kid and I was like you know those people have something I don't there's no way I could ever break a record which records did you try as a kid which records did you try or did you consider trying yeah so one of them was

I saw the record fattest guy in the world heaviest guy in the world one of my stuff was like the most uh glasses balanced on the chin they got these glasses balanced to the chin and i'm like i decent balance so what i did is i took my parents you know eight foot rolls from the carpet you know the carpet roll the cardboard roll so i'm putting this cardboard tube my chin trying to balance it on my chin i could i just was able to keep it there for a few seconds and i'm like man, man, the glasses are going to be harder. It's going to be too hard. I'm just going to give up now. But what I've done since, you know, I'm a juggler. And in college, I decided, you know, I'm going to add balancing to my repertoire. And I started balancing things on my chin. And now I hold the record for, you know,

longest duration balancing a lawnmower on my chin or the furthest distance walked with a chainsaw on my chin, those sorts of things. But that all happened because I had this growth mindset. What was the name of the book or the author of the book and the name Carol something you said? Carol Dweck, D-W-E-C-K. And the book is Mindset and it's a – You recommend it? Oh, I highly recommend it. I mean it's got over a million copies sold about the psychology of having a growth mindset,

not positioning yourself as I can't remember names or I'm not a people person. I can't do sales. I'm not a dancer. I can't draw. I can't do math. I can't become an engineer. If you have that, that's called what's called a fixed mindset. And there's all sorts of research in this book that talks about not only can anybody can become better at anything, but just believing you can become better at something dramatically increases the rate at which you become better at anything. But just believing you can become better at something dramatically increases the rate at which you get better at that something. Let's get one of my favorite lines in the entire world. And one of my favorite topics in the whole world is a statement by a gentleman by the name of Lao Tzu. He wrote the Tao Te Ching. And he said,

if you argue your limitations they're yours and you know what's fascinating about what you're saying not you can really not only can you um um it's interesting to call it a growth mindset because you could convince yourself to be the person who's least capable in the world too that's how strong the mind is there is no homeostasis in what you're saying if If you say it's not, you, you, it's not like you're just like, Hey, I'm just, I'm just nothing. You're either shitty or you're good. It's really. So, so why would you ever choose shitty? Why would you ever choose the limiting mindset ever when there's, there's, there's no middle road. Do you feel that what i'm saying it's fast it's

fascinating what you're saying i'm really like when i heard it the first few times i'm like okay yeah yeah i've heard this thousand times but as we delve deeper into it like this is the problem with humanity if this is the problem with our leaders no one should be arguing and you should not be arguing your own limitations as a human being and no one should be arguing them for you you don't want to be around people who are arguing your limitations for you. I have a wife and a mom and a sister. It's just interesting that it's those three women, but who believed in me,

who always believe in me, who call me, text me, love on me every single day and tell me how great I am and what I'm doing is good. And they give me constructive criticism too. Half the podcast, my mom says she has to turn off

because of my big mouth. But the other half, she's like, man, you're really doing it yeah no that's awesome and and it and it's not necessarily a new idea but who would greg brought into it is putting this name on it mindset and then gathering the research to show it scientifically and but but on the flip side it's the same thing that um uh matt fraser the fittest man in the world he hung his second place he hated his second place trophy when he first took second place but he ended up keeping it and that's the one he hung most prominent in his gym so he can remember

how much that sucked to get second place uh patrick bed david people he he got 880 on the uh sat and a 1.8 gpa and he he remind he he used that um i can't do anything as fuel and you also have it you have this second grade experience do you really remember that yeah no i remember taking that test one of the most vivid memories i had it was it was i can tell you it was at my grade school in the module building back right go up the little ramp to get in and there was a gal that was given the test and one of the tests tell you, it was at my grade school in the module building, back right, go up the little ramp to get in. And there was a gal that was given the test. And one of the tests was a puzzle. It was like an eight-piece puzzle of a soccer ball.

And it was, I remember, it had like curved edges and lined edges. And I loved soccer. And I had this puzzle of only eight pieces. And I'm staring at it, and I couldn't put it together. I was so mad at myself. I was like, I love soccer. This is only an eight-piece puzzle. This should be so easy. I couldn't do it. And so absolutely. I remember that test.

Do you think that you couldn't do it because you froze under pressure? Like, were you like, man, like I, it's like, I remember taking a spelling bee in like the third grade and the teacher asked me how to spell wood and she used it in a sentence and I spelled the wrong wood. I spelled W O O D and said, W O U L D. And, and the whole time i'm spelling it i knew i was spelling it wrong i was choosing the wrong word and yet i just did it anyway i'm like was it like that no no not at all in fact i um the reason i wasn't couldn't do it is because i never practiced it it was a new type of puzzle i hadn't been exposed to before and and this happens all the time when i'm trying to break a new record in a different category if i when i try something out i'm often terrible at it. I'm nowhere even close. For example, the first time I went to practice, the fastest time to pop three balloons with a nail blindfolded, or with my head blindfolded.

So I'm wearing a blindfold. I got a little nail attached to my head. I'm trying to pop three balloons. I'm out there in the garage. I set it up, and the record is something like four seconds. And I'm out there with a blindfold on, swinging my head back and forth like this. My wife walks out, she's laughing at me hysterically. It took me like 45 seconds and I only popped one of the balloons. And this is what happens all the time when we try something new,

we try to take a layup or we take a test and we're under this situation where people can see us fail. And like, when you fail, you're like, I don't wanna try that anymore because that hurt, that experience wasn't good. I got made fun of. I don't want to put myself out there. But if you again, approach this with a growth mindset, this is something I can get better at. I went on and broke that record. And, you know, I don't know, a second, I broke all

three balloons, took the record. But if I had given up on that first try, when I had no idea what I was doing, cause I'd never practiced it. I hadn't been exposed to that before. Now I, you know, if you practice puzzles, you get better at doing puzzles. You practice I was doing because I'd never practiced it. I hadn't been exposed to that before. Now, if you practice puzzles, you get better at doing puzzles. If you practice balloons, you get better at popping balloons. If you practice math, you can get better at math. And there are ways you can make your practice more effective, like getting help when you get stuck, having somebody that's done it before, repetition. And then when I'm practicing physical athletic things like

juggling or balancing um deliberate feedback is important that idea of like measuring what you're doing get it on video get timing for how long it takes if it's a timed record and then get that immediate feedback to understand is what i did helpful or not helpful um you i had this i had this experience all through growing up uh when they would pick teams in pe um there'd be two there'd be two you know the p teacher would be like you know in the eighth grade p teacher would be like okay david you're a picker you're a team captain and joe you're a team captain and all the guys would get picked and then some girls would start getting picked and then i would get picked and i was always like the not only the last guy but some

girls would get picked and um was it similar like that for you too like you couldn't catch a ball like you you were the and I actually I didn't mind it for some reason I was like cool with it like I never had it never made me um I didn't care I don't know why I should have cared I should have like gone and hidden a hole but I actually thought it was funny. Um, did you, did you have something like that going on? Cause I heard you say that you didn't know how to catch. And that's one of the reasons why you chose juggling was to be like, okay, I'm going to prove that not, I can't catch a ball for, to save my life, but I'm going to become the world's greatest juggler. Yeah. So there was a couple of things there and I'll clarify the world's greatest jugglers. I'm

certainly not that, but I am the world's best. Okay. My words, my words. So in, in grade school, there was, you know, I had an older brother who was one year older than me, but also had a different chemistry makeup in his body. He was loaded with testosterone. He was by grade seven or six best arms, best arms in school in the yearbook because his biceps were absolutely sculpted and he never lifted weights a day in his life you know he was really active and built stuff and you know lifted everyday things but never lifted weights but he was phenomenally phenomenal athlete won the city wrestling meet you know fastest 100 meter dash in junior high um set the school record in junior high for fastest mile so i grew up under that shadow of being like i was i was probably more like an average athlete

he was phenomenal but then when i was playing football at school we'd have you know the So I grew up under that shadow of being like, I was probably more of an average athlete. He was phenomenal. But then when I was playing football at school, we'd have, you know, the picking teams. And, you know, when I was playing with, you know, the nerds, I was okay. But when I was playing with the kids that actually played football, the ones that practiced it, that had spent time on it, I would get picked last. Because they throw the football and I get so nervous, I drop it. And so I was often picked last at grade school, that recess for playing flag or two hand touch football because I'd always dropped the ball.

But I've gone on now to become the world's fastest juggler. I can get the most juggling catches in one minute with three balls. And that's another interesting story because when I first tried that record, it's after I'd broken a couple, I was like, you know what, I'm going to try this. And I got my baseline, how fast am I? And then I practiced some more and then I practiced for a week maybe. And I didn't really get any better. And I'm like, who am I kidding? There's thousands

of professional jugglers out there that are way better juggling than I am. There's no way I could ever set this record. And at the time it was 422 catches in a minute. It's just over seven catches per second. And so I put it on the shelf for a while, but after I22 catches in a minute, just over seven catches per second. And so I put it on the shelf for a while. But after I'd broken five, six, seven records, I realized, why don't I approach this with a growth mindset, this idea that I can become the fastest juggler in the world. There's nothing stopping me. There's no hard upper limit. And so I started practicing deliberately, getting immediate feedback over a period of

time. And a funny thing happened is when I practiced, I got better. And when I believed I was going to break the record, I got better even faster. And the more confidence I got, the more I practiced, which means I got better faster. And in 2016, I ended up breaking the record of 428 catches in one minute. And so I was the world's fastest juggler i was like wow this is so awesome and a few months later someone else broke the record at 502 catches in a minute and i'm like oh man and do you know who this guy is like are you guys email friends or or internet friends not that guy

okay but at that point i'm like i'm not gonna give this up and it was actually it's you can floss your teeth while you're on the show by the way don't let this show is we are free you do what you want to do i want to see you do you need the first but it'd be awesome if you did it i've got all sorts of stuff i got my uh i got my uh arm exercises with these chopsticks to strengthen my hands while i'm sitting here i got the juggling balls sitting here i just got random things but um so i i go back to practice for world's fastest juggling and this time i got 556 catches in it it's like nine catches a second it's crazy when i thought seven was impossible and you know what happened another guy broke the record michael farrari um out of i think spain and he is one of

the world's greatest jugglers he's one of the few that juggle 10 balls in a performance i do know him we chat back and forth he broke my record 556 58 catches in it and so i. We chat back and forth. He broke my record 558 catches a minute. And so I had to go back and practice again. And now I currently hold the record at 586 catches a minute. That's almost 10 catches per second sustained for an entire minute. And this is when I thought seven was impossible. And I noticed you changed the angle of your hands when you went for your most recent record. There used to be like this side to side movement.

And now there's this kind of like this it's like one's one's like here dropping them in right yeah so here's the cascade juggling pattern in fact there's two records now the the fastest juggling with the cascade which is what guinness used to require but then they allow this what's called the shower pattern where it goes around in a circle yeah when it goes around a circle you can go through throw two balls at the same time so this one's technically a little faster. So I, so this is, this is how I have 586 catches and then have smaller balls. I got to be warmed up for a bit going around a circle like that.

And then I also still hold the record for the most jumping catches a minute with a three ball cascade at 502 catches in one minute. So still substantially faster than I had before. Hey, um, uh, one, one time I i was looking up i was to prove a point i looked up this there's probably some name for this curve that you know it being that you went to mit but i looked up the the the curve for people who could juggle three balls and then four balls and then five balls and then six balls and you just watch that number just drop every time you you add a ball and it's crazy and then you start. And you just watch that number just drop every time you, you add a ball and it's crazy. And then you start getting to that upper top end of how many balls, you know, for the world record for most balls. And it's just like one person, one person,

one person. I mean, it's nice. Yeah. It's an exponential decay curve. Um, on average, you know, learning how to juggle might take three balls might take on average about an hour. It could take, you know, a week or, but adding each ball becomes about 10 times as hard. So it takes an hour of practice to learn three. It'll probably take you 10 hours to learn four. And so there's a lot of people that know there's tons of people that juggle three, quite a few that can juggle four that maybe spent that 10 hours. The number of spent the a hundred hours to learn how to juggle five is just virtually nothing and then six seven eight nine ten eleven is the most that i've ever been eleven balls is the most that's ever been juggled um and oh i thought it went up to like 15 that makes me feel better because

i saw i saw that and i'm like how can that be okay i must have been looking at it wrong so there's so juggled is qualifying juggling you have to have twice as many catches as you have objects oh juggle 11 balls you need to have 22 catches now i believe there's the most ever flashed this means you throw all the balls up once and you catch them all is 14 alex baron is the one who's done that and so he's thrown 14 balls in the air individually and caught all 14 of them and and so 14 is most of the flash there might've been. I think that's the most for anything. That's incredible. What do you eat, David? Have you changed your diet over the years? Yeah, no, I'm, I'm not a particularly amazing, a great eater. When I was growing up, I didn't really have a sense of like refined foods are

bad for you to sugar bad for you. And I'm, I've got some weaknesses, like I'm a sweet tooth and I like diet soda. So those are my two main vices right now. But for the most part, I try to eat a relatively high protein diet, lots of fruits and vegetables. But you know, for morning, I really like my cinnamon toast punch and lucky charms, but I put protein milk instead of the standard stuff. Oh, you're killing me. Oh, you're killing me. I'm going to say something crazy here to you. Your skin has gotten like, like there's some, you, some – you look like you're on the carnivore diet. Your skin is impeccable compared to where it was like five years ago. Some of the videos I've seen, I'm like, oh, this guy's got some sort of like Paul Saladino.

Dr. Paul Saladino, I had him on the show. He had a – shit, what is it? I forget what it is, but he had some – where his skin would get really red and peely. And then he switched to the carnivore diet. And what do I mean? Your skin looks amazing right now. Yeah. I don't know about that. It might be the filter on the video, but, um, all right. You didn't change your diet. You're not a carnivore guy now. I'm not, I wouldn't call myself a carnivore. I do have a higher protein diet right now. Like I took my collagen powder this morning and I, and I make sure to get plenty of protein in my diet. Cause I find that helps me maintain my, um, you know, fitness level a little bit higher. And, and, you know, last year before last, like in October of 2020,

I, I did my longest Guinness world record every year. I did the furthest distance traveled on foot while juggling. And you gotta be juggling the entire time. You gotta be moving forward the entire time. And then what really threw me for a loop is guinness says nobody can feed you food or water and i'm like thank you melissa eczema yeah you used to have eczema you don't got it anymore sorry go ahead nice so i'm like well i um so i so i got to carry i can only run about 15 miles without food or water. So I had to wear a camelback with me, stick my mouth, get some, you know, electrolyte drink in there to keep going. And I ran 29 miles straight while juggling. And after about five and a half hours, I finally

dropped the ball, which ended the attempt. Um, and then a year ago I had my appendix out, I had appendicitis and then some infections after that. So knocked off my fitness levels dramatically. And so the last several months I've been trying to get back in shape. I'm going after some running fastest mile, fastest hundred records this week, a hundred meter dash records this year. And so I'm doing sprints and trying to get back in shape. And so I've, um, I've been working hard at that. And so I'm trying to eat a little healthier. And I started on Christmas Eve. I started a new workout regimen of every day. I'm going to do 50 pushups and sit-ups. And then every day I increase that number by five.

And so yesterday was 425 pushups and 425 sit-ups. And today's 430. Dude, you look great. Congratulations. That's awesome. Do you have kids? Yeah, I do. I've got a three and a five-year-old boys and they're a ton of fun.

Yeah. I have two five-year-olds and a five-year-old boys and they're a ton of fun yeah i have two five-year-olds and a seven-year-old and i and i and i i just can't get enough of them i just want to just party them you must be are they fascinated by dad are they figuring out what dad's doing are they tripping not really i mean they have fun with me i mean they'll they'll juggle with me and they'll keep you up and they want to bounce on the pogo steps and the balance boards and they play with all the toys. But they have no idea.

I mean, they think the Guinness World Record logo is my logo. They'll say, hey, dad, there's your logo. But they have no idea that the Guinness World Record is supposedly this mystical, cool thing that people do. They just think it's part of life. Are you disgusted by the soft sciences at all? No one's listening. Let's just talk me and you. There's science.

There's physics. There's biology. There's these real hard sciences. There's like four of them. There's math. And then there's all this – my words, not yours – horseshit out there. Does – they kind of – do they bother you at all, sociology sociology majors so i don't know they don't they certainly don't bother me there's a place for them and there's a lot of nuance you're a good dude and understanding what now here's the here's the deal so one of the ones that

fascinates me the most is actually psychology because it's you might consider it a soft science it's not hard and fast rules because it's how the brain works and how people think and it's not the state it's not repeat's how the brain works and how people think. And it's not the same. It's not repeatable and the same in every person every time. But statistically, you can draw bell curves about how this percentage of people are going to react this way, this percentage are going to react this way, and this percent react this way. I can't tell you how each individual person reacts, but I can tell you on a whole, this is how people are going to react to a situation. But I can tell you on a whole, this is how people are going to react to a situation. And so psychology about how people have, you know, I'm just going to try to come up with an example of, you know, fear.

Like, hey, when you're in a fearful situation and you meet a cute girl, your heart rate increases, you start perspiring, your hands get sweaty. And they did a study on the Capilano Suspension Bridge in canada which is the tallest suspension bridge in north america maybe the world and they and they did a study where they had this girl give these people uh they met them on the bridge and gave them my name's ashley here's the phone number call me and then that same girl says my name's emily here's my phone number call me same phone number different name at a different place in the park and what happened is the guys that they met on the bridge called back way more often than the guys she met off the bridge. And the guys were like thinking, Hey, my, my heart rate's increased. I've got perspiration and they're attributing it to this girl. They're meeting on the bridge is cute. And so they call

back thinking I must be attracted to this girl, but your body can't distinguish those physical reactions from, um, being on it from a cute girl or, or from a cute girl or being scared because you're on a bridge. And it's called the misattribution there. You misattribute your attraction to this girl because you're having the physical symptoms of it. And those are the sorts of things that kind of just absolutely fascinate me. And there's tons of examples of in psychology about people and the way they think and how they treat people. And, you know, if you if you tell a student, you break a student, you know, the class experience, you can't run anymore, but tell half the class you're dumb and your people are smart.

The dumb people will start believing they're dumb and the smart will believe in that. And it's all psychology. Yeah. You tell people they're sick and they'll start believe they're sick. You tell people there's something to be afraid of and they'll be afraid of it. Even if there's not, it is a very, we're seeing one of the most fascinating experience unfold right before our very eyes today um does he have uh no i wonder what his fran time is no wrong one uh does he have an instagram um so i try it takes a little

while to get a hold of david rush if you use instagram he's kind of he's not why aren't you a big instagram guy It seems like breaking world records is made for that platform. So my, my, my problem is I didn't have a notification set for Instagram. I run all my social media channels and my, I have a full-time job. I am a product manager, technology company and breaking records as a side hobby. And so I do that. I spend time on it, but, um, on Instagram, I didn't have notifications. So I had all these messages backed up from people requesting, Hey, can you have me on the show? Or I want to do an interview or I want to say hi. And I didn't see any of them. So my, my Instagram is David Rush speaker,

I believe. I'm going to, I'm going to see if I can, if I can. Yeah. My website's David Rush for stem.com David Rush for stem.com. And then there's a pop-up on my website that has all my, you know, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, YouTube. I look, I changed your name. Does that look right? Yeah. That's my Instagram. Bam. There we go. Uh, when you were doing the slowest juggling, your heartbeat went up to one 85 for the slow will you explain to people what the what the slowest

juggling is that one minute record that was fascinating to me that your heart rate went up like that that looked that looks really hard by the way that looks really really really hard yeah so we talked about the world's fastest juggling the most juggling catches a minute the flip side of that is the world's slowest juggling the fewest juggling catches in a minute and the obvious loophole everybody thinks about is well don't juggle now you got toest juggling, the fewest juggling catches in a minute. And the obvious loophole everybody thinks about is, well, don't juggle. No, you got to be juggling the entire time, which means you got to have three balls and one of them in the air at all times. And the second one in the air as, um, as you're juggling. And to do that, obviously there's two main components of it. One is you got to throw the ball as high as you possibly can. And so when I broke it,

I did it at the Boise state blue turf, the football field. That's a cool video by the way. Very cool video. And I was throwing the balls about one and a half times the height of the field goalposts. So throwing the balls as high as you possibly can. And it's got to be accurate because it's pretty much straight up. Cause even, you know, one or two degrees off, you got to take a couple of steps to get back in the position to catch it about four or five six degrees off you're running off the field and it's impossible to catch so run it throw it as high as you can possibly straight up and then the second piece is you got to maximize the um unique hang time of each ball which means you have to wait until the last possible moment when this ball is coming down before you throw the next one. And so throw a ball as high as you can, wait to the last possible moment,

throw this ball up at the same time. The speed differential then between my hand and the ball coming down is about 70 miles an hour. And then absorbing those 70 miles an hour to get it to zero as smoothly as possible so I don't get a bruise. And so I was able to do that. I got down to 22 catches in a minute, which is about three seconds of hang time per ball.

And I'm jumping one, throwing, I'm getting my whole body into it. And so physically exertion, it's more than- And grunting. You're grunting. You grunt. I mean, just, it was absolutely, absolutely exhausting. And my resting heart rate as a runner is about 50 beats per minute. And by the end of the minute, well, the slow juggling, it gets up to about 180 beats per minute.'s just off the charts absolute exhaustion and it's one of my favorite records to practice because i've got so much exercise in it um but i haven't i haven't practiced that one in a while now at the minute mark are you ready to tap is is it is it like sprint is it like running a 400 400 full speed uh yeah maybe maybe 95 percent out of 400 it's not quite that physically exerting but yeah i definitely at the end of the minute i collapse i'm laying down i'm i'm taking deep

breaths um you mentioned you mentioned you want to i i don't know if i i think i read this somewhere but you alluded to the fact that um you found some balls that you weren't allergic to but that but then that was it i'm like wait what did he just say he's he was allergic to some of these balls yeah so they're they're professionally made juggling balls and when i was growing up most of them actually i didn't have professional juggling balls when i was in college but all the good ones are filled with millet which is a seed and. And it's a nice, fine, it grinds in a nice, fine powder. It makes for well-weighted balls that you can get into beanbag circles like this that squish well to maintain their form.

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a lot of my classes. And I use a lot of those skills now more than I do other things. But over college, I developed an allergy to millet, my juggling balls. And so by the end of college, I would pick up the juggling balls. And within by the end of college, I would pick up the juggling balls and, you know, within 10 or 15 minutes, I was just sneezing, runny nose. And so I, I gave up juggling for years after college. I moved away from Boston back to Boise. There's not a juggling scene here. It's actually kind of a social activity. You get together, you pass, you chat. Um, but, um, allergic, allergic, I'm allergic. And so, um, you found a new bean, you found a new, so I stopped juggling and I'd only do performances here in Boise. I'd, you know,

give a talk to promote STEM education, use juggling to keep it interesting. But then I went on a cruise at Disney cruise and I met a professional juggler. His name was Niels Dunkier. And I introduced myself. And this is the time I was just thinking about breaking a Guinness World Record. And he held four of them. And I was like, hey, I want to break a world record. And I talked to him. And the other thing I did when I traveled to New Zealand, they took out my juggling balls. And I'm like, oh, yeah, those are just my juggling balls. They get inspected all the time in x-ray. And the gal says, hey, are these filled with a seed called millet and she takes out the pocket knife and i'm like oh shoot they are and new zealand's really strict about their bio you know hazards entering the country and it's a seed so you can't take seeds

in so i had to leave my jungling balls in a biocontagion hazard new zealand while i toured around and so neil's dunk here is like yeah i use these um these these are filled with a plastic bead and you can travel internationally with them. You don't have to worry about customs. I was like, well, that's really interesting. So I bought these new juggling balls that are filled with a plastic seed. They're still weighted great. They feel awesome.

And that's when I got back into juggling on a regular basis and started juggling for practicing for the longest duration, juggling, juggled for a few thousand miles. Juggled? Did you coin that? Juggled for a few thousand miles and got back into breaking. Juggled? Did you coin that? Juggled? Did you coin that? No. No, there's a sub-scene of a few thousand of us jugglers that run while juggling. Juggling is a portmanteau of jogging and juggling. I appreciate you. I am a notorious interrupter. And you are a man of of of immense focus and i appreciate you um dealing with my interrupting and then continue your stories stevan is not allergic to any kind of balls well thank you bruce that is correct i am i uh i'm not actually a ball aficionado but

there i haven't yet to be uh um do you get a lot of ball jokes in the jugglers? You know, as a juggler, I, I have never told a ball joke, but you've heard a lot. I don't, you've heard a lot. I, you know, I was, I'm big into CrossFit and I was, when I got into CrossFit in 2006, um, I, I didn't know anything about the Olympic lifts and they got all, they got one called the snatch and one called the jerk. And even though I was 34 years old, I felt like I was seven again. I would chuckle every time that anyone would say those words. Here's a science question for you.

When you drank the lemon juice, when you were – by the way, that was a great video. First, I thought like I give a shit. But the best part about that video was you reported every hour about the symptoms, and I really liked that. And at the – I think after a day, after like 20 hours or 24 hours, you still reported to the camera about some of the symptoms of drinking all of that lemon juice, and I was really liking that. And one of the things you said is my teeth are a little bit sensitive. And I was wondering if that, is that, um, is that from the lemon juice passing through your mouth or is that like something happened? And I'm using this word, not knowing the definition of it really. Is that something that happens systemically? Like, is it, do you know, do you know what I mean?

Like, yeah, no, I, I'm not i'm not 100 sure i have a suspicion that the primary um reason they're sore is because when it's passing through the mouth the lemon juice gets on the teeth themselves and um you know does something to the enamel and makes them sensitive and so i i noticed that when i have a lot of you know highly acidic foods my teeth can get a little bit sensitive um and then and and, and, and I don't think it was systemic, but I probably was burst burping up some more acidic saliva at that point. And because the lemon juice was in my mouth, Morris acid was when it was in my mouth. Um, excuse me, the lemon juice in my stomach. So I had more acid in my mouth. So the acidity was

increased, which increased my teeth sensitivity. That's my suspicion. Right. Okay. All right. I like that. I'm going to go. And I don't like eating records or like the mass eating records, like lemon juice. And I did not enjoy those at all, but I was trying to, you know, have this growth mindset branch out. I'm going to try something new. Um, and so that was better though. I, the eating records I do like is like the most, most peas eaten with a toothpick in 30 seconds, way fun yeah 30 seconds i mean after 49 peas it's not like i'm stuffed uh to the brim i love when i was a kid i loved um eating frozen peas as a snack when i watched like scooby-doo did you like that yeah yeah did you like eating frozen peas you know

i don't i don't do frozen peas eat i always put them in the microwave and put a little salt and butter on them oh that's good too that's good too do you know leah um shut keever oh the guinness record breaker the eater she yeah yeah i've seen a lot of her videos she was on the show cool cool gal man that is an ambitious woman that is a that is a very focused ambitious woman and uh but but you're right the The thing she does, it is, it is painful to watch. Yeah. And, and you can train your stomach to like expand it. So it, it doesn't get affected by having mass amounts of food in it. Just like any, uh, like training for muscles or stretching or, you know, getting your body more flexible. The stomach is something you can train as well. So it wouldn't be as painful like um andre ortoff

another super record breaker out of germany who i've met has trained his stomach so he can eat mass quantities of food and he broke he broke he he took the lemon juice and lime juice drinking record from me and he broke both of those in the same day and i the thought of me doing that was just it was like that doesn't seem possible because i haven't trained my stomach to be able to handle it. Wait, he drank the most lemon juice and then later on in the day, the most lime juice in the same day? The fastest time to drink a liter through a straw of lemon juice and the fastest time to drink a liter of lime juice through a straw. Oh, my goodness.

And, you know, I was reporting after 24 hours still not feeling great from doing one of the two. If I'd done both of them, my stomach would have exploded. Yeah, that's insane. Hey, did you cut the one of the two, but I'd done both of them. My stomach would have exploded. Yeah. That's insane. Hey, did you cut the top of the straw at an angle like this? I didn't. That's the way it came. Oh, interesting.

Okay. I thought I was like spotting your technique. Yeah, I know. I thought I was, I thought I was, uh, well, um, what frame rate are you filming at? Are you, are you, have you turned into kind of a bit of a film geek also? I'm not really a film geek also i'm not really a film geek i don't for most of my records that they're not super fast so if i'm doing a long one i'll drop it to 30 frames a second just to save video space but if i'm doing most of them

i'll do a 60 but if i'm doing like a really fast one that's short like world's fastest we often do you know 120 or 240 just so i've got better slow motion footage and and the one with the slowest juggle in the world did did you shoot that at 4k? Because the video on YouTube, you really, you really kind of have to, even though I like the filming of it and I like the video a lot, you, you do have to take for granted that there's a ball in the air, even when I blew it up to a big screen. So that, that was one of the first records I broke. I mean, it was one of the first 10 records I broke. And at that point, I did not have GoPros or fancy equipment, or I was using, you know, borrowed cameras and people holding them with their hands. And so the footage on that record is probably the worst footage I

have of any of my records because I didn't have the equipment for it. Um, has there been a record that you broke that didn't get filmed that you were unable to repeat is there a record you're like yeah i have that record but just no one knows it um i don't know about the filming i've had i've had a number of records that have been disqualified by guinness for various reasons um and some of the reasons i i disagree with um like like you like you like you failed the steroid test or something or you were on methamphetamines or – No, I mean I'll give you an example. So one of the times, it was for the longest – it was the furthest distance walked balancing a lawnmower in the gym. And I contact him, and there's a powered category and a non-powered category.

Powered category, the lawnmower's got to be running. The non-powered category, obviously not running. And so I contact him and say, hey, for the non-powered one one can i use a lawnmower with an engine that's just off and they responded back yep it's fine you can use any type of lawnmower so long as the engine's off that's fine so i break the record i submit the video and they're like yeah we're going to disqualify this because you use a powered lawnmower that was off and i was like oh you told me I could. Wait, wait, wait. This one, I'm confused. What other kind of non-powered lawnmower is there?

You know, the push kind with the blades that spin? Oh, that's crazy. Come on. So, I mean, so. How did they have. I understand the mistake, but it's not like. Yours must have even been harder. It must have been heavier.

Yeah, it was and and since that i've purchased another non-powered lawnmower and i've broken that record so i do currently hold that record but at the time it was disqualified and i was a little disgruntled by it all right i i understand that's that's have you been what's the most serious injury you've um you've gotten, so I don't know about injury, but you know, I've had like meningitis and shingles and my appendix out. Those are all things you don't normally have by 37. I don't think any of them were record related. Um, in terms of actually breaking records or practicing them, I don't have that many injuries cause I'm focused. I've had a number of other injuries, but not usually for breaking or practicing a record i mean i've cut myself a few times um that's good that's good okay so the worst injury was actually before i ever broke a record

and it was a running related injury because the first record i ever broke was 2015 and it was for longest duration blindfolded juggling. But before that, I trained for two years because I was going to run the fastest 800 meters juggling. That was the record I'd said, I'm going to break a Guinness World Record. I'm going to create this tangible example that you can have a growth mindset and do anything. And so I trained to become the fastest half-mile runner while juggling. And I trained for about two years. I ran 2,000 miles, short runs, long runs, wind sprints, time trials. I'd run into my legs, burn my lungs, burn fire.

And I kept running more because I was going to break this world record. And then about at the end of that two years, though, I went on one last run and I hurt my knee. And it didn't feel it felt a little bit off as a little bit painful. So I took a day off and then tried running again and hurt. I'd take more time off a week. They became a week. A week was a month when you got x-rays, went and got a second opinion, went to the MRI and they could not figure out what's going on with my knee. And it was literally a year and a half before I'd be able to run hard again.

And at that point I've decided, okay, I've spent two years of my life training to break a Guinness world records title. I give it a college try. I could have had an associate's degree after two years and i have a choice do i give up or do i keep pursuing this dream of breaking a guinness world record even though it looks a little bit different and that's when i transitioned to practicing for longest duration blindfolded juggling i couldn't i couldn't run anymore but i just spent a couple hundred hours doing a basic three ball cascade i practiced so much i could literally run and juggle with my eyes closed and hold records for doing that as well. And so I practiced for a few more months for longest duration blindfolded

juggling in October, 2015, I juggled for six minutes and 34 seconds breaking my first Guinness world records title. How's your knee now? So my knee has issues still, but I have, I went through some pretty intense physical therapy, you know, ice baths and STEM treatments and electrotherapy and rubbing it out. And now on a regular basis, I've got one of those, you know, Theragun's, you know, a knockout to keep my IT band loose.

So if I can keep my IT band loose, I can mostly avoid chronic pain, but it still hurts. And so I have to be, I have to use it five times a week these days. Do you know the, do you know about the knees over toes guy? I think I've heard this, but I'm not, I may have seen it, but I don't know much about him. Yeah. You got to check him out. People like swear by his shit. Like they love him.

Do you do any walk with backwards walking? Just as a gimmick. Yeah. Yeah. Well, check him out. I think you will really, really like him. Do you do any walk with backwards walking? Just as a gimmick. Yeah. Yeah. Well check him out. I think you will really, really like him. This guy's really onto something. I think he was on Joe Rogan also that podcast, but he has an Instagram account and I think you'll be inspired by it. He does some really cool stuff. He's just all about knees, knees, knees, knees, knees. And I think he has a meticulous diet too. You can't be eating. David, you, i mean i i say this with um i mean you're you're a professional athlete

you can't be eating lucky charms in the morning you're an old man now you're 37 you can't be eating anything that causes inflammation in that knee you're you're i don't want to say you're a national treasure, but you're getting there. You did the Huckabee show. Yeah, a little over about two and a half years ago, Huckabee had me fly out and come on the show there. I thought he was like some political guy. I didn't know. He does everything. That show does everything.

I've never seen his show, but wasn't he like Speaker of the House? Wasn't he a congressman or a governor? What is that guy's claim to fame? So he was the governor of Arkansas, and then he ran for president. Right. He was in the Republican primary. And so now he's got a show called The Huckabee Show, and his daughter has obviously worked in politics as well. Right.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. She was – for Trump, she was the – Yeah, Sarah Huckabee Sanders. Was she the communication gal? Yeah, she was vicious. She was good. That girl held her own. I was actually impressed.

That's a tough job. Would you want that job? No. I don't like that kind of controversy. I like talking about things where I can get along with people across the political spectrum. You're a good dude. You seem like that. So you go on the Huckabee show, and the world record is to balance 13 chairs.

Is that correct? I think the current record at the time was there was 11 chairs balanced on the chin. So it was the most chairs balanced on the chin. You got to put them on the chin and then hold them there for 10 seconds. So you were going to do 12, but these guys, when you get there, there's 15 chairs, or at least that's the way you made it sound. And you just went for all 15. Was that planned?

Was that just part of the gimmick of the shtick? Or did you literally just be like, all right, screw it. Just pile on an extra three chairs. It was a little bit of both. I was like, okay, I knew we were going to have 15 chairs. And I think I actually started with 15 chairs in the show, but I balanced them there. And I think I made like six 15 chairs in the show but I balanced them there and

I think I made like six or seven seconds the first attempt and the second second temp was like eight seconds and so I was taking off a couple chairs thinking okay I'm gonna take off a couple chairs I can still break the record and then I realized the heck with this I I am taking off two chairs isn't gonna make me bounce the last two seconds I just gotta focus and and make sure I don't get nervous doing this so I put the two chairs back on going to make me bounce the last two seconds. I just got to focus and, and make sure I don't get nervous doing this. So I put the two pair of chairs back on and the audience was obviously supportive. And I put the chairs in my chin and kept him there for 10 and a half seconds.

So I got all 15. And you did it. Yeah. Um, the spotters, are those just dudes? Are those Huckabee dudes? Are those your dudes?

Those were Huckabee, uh, crew. And, and do you coach them ahead of time for the so basically what's happening is he's got his he's by the way those guys are standing too close to you i need to go with you i need to be you need you need me to just be on the road with you be like gentlemen stand back if those would have fallen off i mean huckabee is not an agile man he's the

size of three or four men um and he's standing close to you. He's not paying full attention. He's got a little bit of metabolic derangement from his diet. One of his eyes isn't doing the same thing as his other eye. That's from eating too much Lucky Charms. And he's standing too close. Do you notice that? Do you know what I'm talking about? Like if those chairs were to toppled off, he'd be – that guy's toast.

Yeah, I think Huckabee wasn't standing too close. But the two spotters were there to help catch the chairs in case they fall off my chair. They were slow on the gun. They were slow on the gun. Yeah. I mean, to be honest, they were there for as much for show as they were for safety. The more dangerous it looks, I mean, the worst thing that really could happen is they could fall off. Somebody gets a bruise, and I break some chairs.

All right. For sure. All right. I won't be so critical. Mark Zuckerberg stole Facebook from the Winklevoss – Winklevi? The Winklevoss brothers? Winklevoss twins, yeah. Winklevoss twins. They and Mark Zuckerberg made Facebook to get girls. And speaking of psychology, I believe that pretty much everything that men do is some sort of a mating strategy.

So there's those guys who carry a boombox around with them. That's a mating strategy. There's the guys who have the cars, the lowriders. That's a mating strategy. There's the guys that go get their Stanford MBA. Mating strategy. And Patrick Bed-David, a multimillionaire, 100 millionaire, just bought a $20 million home cash. Like he – one of the things he did is he – to motivate himself to make his first million dollars, he said he was going to abstain for sex until he made his first million dollars. It took him 17 months. Is this juggling thing – how does that fall under? This, this thought of psychology where you're like, I'm going to juggle eight balls and I'm going to get girls.

So let me, let me let you and all your readers and our listeners here on a little secret here. Uh, if your goal is to get girls, don't go into juggling. Not the way to do it. My, my wife is awesome.

We met at MIT. She's a mechanical engineer, works at HP, working on laser jet printers. Is your wife smart as shit? She is. Is she a critical thinker too? Is she – So she didn't think too critically because she was able to at least look past my juggling and see, okay, there's other things beyond this guy that I like. We'll take him even though he juggles.

other things beyond this guy that i like we'll take him even though he juggles so so um it's it's a it's a under this kind of like theory of thought it's a misplaced use of male energy juggling i mean there must like have you done any research and you're like well the ukrainian warriors did this in order to conquer villages and get the women or or the messiah did this in order like is there any like you got any like – what's that called? Folklore where you can be like this is some real man shit I'm doing over here. No, and there's plenty of gals that juggle as well. And I founded the Juggling Club at MIT, but my co-founder was a female. And so we had a mix of people there.

We just liked hanging out, having fun, a bit of quirky personalities. But I don't know that there's anybody at MIT that doesn't have at least a little bit of a quirky personality and then you mentioned facebook i got a little story here my my friend i was at i was at mit and i wouldn't start in 2003 and you know facebook was started in 2004 and it actually started as you know hot or not was the name of the uh little app that zuckerberg created about you know scraping he got in trouble because he actually um illicitly downloaded the images from all the class of the houses that people lived in and then he used those images to put two two faces up you pick which one's hot or not and then he almost got kicked out of harvard for it and the funny

thing is my roommate in freshman year his brother was suite mates with mark zuckerberg and actually almost got kicked out of school with mark zucker because of that Hot or Not app. Your brother? My roommate's brother. Oh, okay. So my roommate, I was a roommate at MIT. My roommate, basically his roommate was Mark Zuckerberg, or his brother's roommate was Mark Zuckerberg. So one degree of separation. So when Zuckerberg started Facebook, my roommate's dad was telling him,

don't get involved in that. You almost got kicked out of Harvard. And then we wrote a book about it it was like called the billion dollar mistake and at this point it'd be worth you know the 10 billion dollar mistake um but uh so i i was one of the first people on facebook back in the day because mit was the 10th school that was allowed on you know started at harvard and then went around the ivy leagues and so facebook for me when it first started it was just this social thing that i did and And all my friends were MIT, maybe a few at Harvard. And then it's spread down the East coast and across West. And so when I, my first time I saw a friend from high school on Facebook, I'm like, wow, this thing is grown. It's gotten big.

And so that was a pretty interesting experience for me. Yeah. Small world. Yeah. Hey, um, what is the ratio of men to women in juggling? Is it like low riders? Like there's just no girls doing it? Like I never see any girls riding low riders. Yeah, I couldn't tell you the ratio, but it's probably over, you know, obviously over 50%. At the MIG Juggling Club. Wait a second.

What do you mean over 50%? You mean like over 90% men? You know, I don't think it was that much I don't think it was that much at MIT. It was probably, you know, 60, 40, 70, 30, somewhere in there. I personally am racking my brain right now. Now I'm not big in the juggling scene. You know, I'm just like walk by pier 39 in San Francisco or like, you know, like my kids play tennis a lot. So I I'm around a lot of balls,

but I've never seen, I don't think I've ever seen a woman even attempt to juggle. I can't, I can't pick I'm 49 years old. I can't picture ever. I'm sure I could Google juggling women and it would just, it would rain, it would rain down juggling women. No, there are a lot in MIT and actually MIT makes a concerted effort to, you know, build up both the genders and, and give them. Mr. Rush sexes.

Oh, build up both sexes. Okay. Okay. Mr. Rush, sexes. Build up both sexes. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Just checking. All right. And then- Sorry, sorry.

I'm really particular about words. Sorry, sorry. Yeah. So the ratio is, I think, 55-45 men to women at MIT. And so versus like Caltech, which has a much more skewed ratio. And so I was surrounded by a lot of very smart women when I was going to college. And, uh, and the, and frankly, the best thing I got at MIT was my wife. It was my favorite part. That is cool. I got my wife out of college too. Um, I, I wonder what that ratio is now. Cause women are kind of taken over the college scene, aren't they?

Every, every time I hear some stats, like worrying stats about the country, it's just that men, more women, well, the worrying stat isn't that women are taking over. It's that men are falling behind. Yeah. In terms of enrollment at college. Yeah. I believe there are more women that enroll in college than men and um the men enrolling is declining and so when i when i go ahead so when i promote stem education and getting you know

pursuing things that you're interested and passionate about and don't let um you know difficulties or struggles stop you and it's not necessarily all about a four-year engineering degree i mean there's tons of's tons of two-year degrees, technical schools, trade schools, learning how to repair a car. It's obviously very important. And there's tons of technical skills you can get even without a traditional four-year degree. So I'm not necessarily espousing college as the only way to go. You can go get a two-year technical programming course to become a computer programmer, computer engineer. And those skills are going to be very valuable now and in the future

and computer programming is one of those skills that is super super valuable today that anybody can learn with enough dedicated energy and effort and there's lots of jobs you can get in that industry right now if you're looking to make a career change yeah it seems like a lot yeah it seems like it's the future. Programming. I mean, if you think about it, everything you – basically everything you touch that runs on electricity, that has power, has some sort of computer chip inside of it today. It requires some sort of code to run, whether it be a light, flashlight, computer, your refrigerator, your toaster at this point. Everything's got an integrated circuit. Everything requires code, and that's not going to change anytime soon.

It's just going to become more prevalent. Nuts. Hey, um, there's, there's, you talk about two different records, records that exist that you break and then creating new records. Tell me about that creating new records piece. Yeah. So most of the records I've broken, you know, the 210 or so are existing records. I found on somebody else broke them, the rules were already created. And then I just had to apply, get the rules, find out what they were and go practice and break a record. But Guinness also has a process where you can create new records titles and on their website, GuinnessWorldRecords.com, they've got a definition of what makes a record. And it's got to be, you know, specific. It's got to be breakable. It's got to be measurable. they don't want it to be location specific so you can't say i'm the

fastest person in idaho it's no you've got to be the fastest person in the world or um and so and it's got to be measurable and it's got to be a non-arbitrary time so it's like not the most darts popping balloons in 45 seconds it's okay we'll only measure that record for 30 seconds or a minute and so you can create records in the website and I've created a few, for example, the world's slowest juggling, the fewest juggling catches in a minute. It was tracked in the juggling community, but Guinness, it wasn't a record Guinness track, but since they had the world's most catches in a minute, it made sense to track the fewest catches in it. So I contacted Guinness, created an application, fewest juggling catches in a minute. I proposed some rules to them.

They said, yep, that's something we'd be interested in tracking. So we will create this new records category for you. The minimum is set, I think, at 26 catches in a minute because that was what the juggling community had tracked based on publicly available evidence. They said, you've got to get less than 26 catches in a minute and we will recognize you as a Guinness World Records holder. Yeah, that's a good one. That's brilliant. Do you think of that now? Every time there's a fastest, you're like, okay,

what would the slowest look like? I mean, it seems like just like a smart thing, way to go. Yeah. It doesn't really apply very well unless there's some limiting factor that makes slowest interesting because gravity is the limiting factor for a that makes slowest interesting because you know, gravity is the limiting factor for a world's slowest juggling. But if you're talking about the world's slowest hundred meter dash, that doesn't make sense because there's no limiting factor there. It makes it difficult. The candles,

these hundred candles you put in your mouth. Most lit candles in the mouth. Yeah. Is that, is that scary as that flames getting bigger? I'm like, I mean, that's a lot of heat coming off there. Was that nuts? I mean, just a little bit. The, the bigger issue is all the beeswax that's dripping down because I got, you got a hundred candles in the mouth that's sticking out. There's a big flame, fire flame. Now, when I was breaking that record,

I was in front of a live audience of a couple hundred people so i got all the adrenaline so i don't really feel the fear but then there's just wax pouring down the candles that was kind of the coolest part about it yeah yeah um and so i was doing a tedx talk here in boise so i i was like i don't want to ruin the red dot so i had a big piece of cardboard that it all fell onto and splattered around and and uh it was it was a little concerning but the adrenaline kept me from being too afraid and I'd done some practices so I knew it was what was going to happen with a few less uh kettles but that record's been taken from me so I've actually recently purchased candles and should be taking that one back too

do you get a gag reflex when you do that the whole time you're putting those in I feel like I would be gagging or you don't you just don't make sure that they don't go in far enough yeah they don't they don't go in far enough the bigger issue is just stretching the mouth out big enough to get all the candles in um and then making sure the the wicks are all the same length out of my mouth so they all light at the same time um now i'm working on the gag reflex i had the record for the most blueberries stuffed in the mouth and then coming back out then they have to come back out whole they're smushed they don't count and that one i absolutely had to work on on the gag reflex and i'm coming up on my

gotta go to work here in a few seconds okay i uh one time i'll tell you this quick story and then i got one question for you last question one time i uh as joke, I tried to put this microphone in my mouth during the show, and my jaw cramped. It was fucked up. Excuse me. Excuse my language. Last question, and thank you so much, David. And the most important part isn't the fact that you are breaking all these world records. It's the fact that you're driving the hard sciences, which I think is like people have completely lost their way because they don't know how to think anymore they don't know how to do risk assessment they don't understand numbers they don't understand relationships between numbers and they can't make any they can't contextualize or do anything with relativity anymore that we're just driven by fear and it's it's a it's pathetic but um all of these records you break so like the candles and

then like when you catch the the the eggs the chopsticks, is there a shrine at your house that you save that stuff? Is there like, look, these are the chopsticks and they're in a glass case. And like, do you have a room with all the shit that's saved from the records you broke? These are the balls that are the slowest juggling. So I don't have a room, but I do have a ton of materials that I've got all these records I'm practicing for. I do have a ton of materials that I've got all these records I'm practicing for. And so my wife created a shelf in the corner of the garage that says, this is where David's Guinness World Record supplies go.

I don't want them all over the house anymore. So I've got a corner of the garage, just shelves to store the stuff. And if I'm actively practicing it, I've got another shelf in the living room of, here's where the supplies go for active practicing. But if I'm not, she wants me to take out a garage so we can have a functional house. And, you know, when people walk in, it looks like a normal house that people live in. It doesn't look like an arts and crafts fair. All right.

Well, I got to run to work, but it's been a pleasure. Thanks for having me on. Yep. Thank you so much. Thank you. All right. You take care. What do you guys think?

What do you think? You can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't switch gender and sex. You can't. You can't. You can't. It's the problem. It's my hangup. You can't.

I'm not going to allow it. I think I said sorry too many times. I wish I wouldn't have said sorry too many times. Did you guys see the list of people I invited to the pre-show? I invited Rich. This happens at 11 a.m. in three hours. I invited Angelo DiCicco. I wonder if I can bring it up here so we can look at it.

I made this picture last night. Let me see if I can bring it up. Go to the Sevan channel, your channel. Oh, here it is. Let me see. I can bring it up. Go to the Sevan channel, your channel. Oh, here it is. Let me see. Look at this. I pretty much just invite anyone on the show. This is just going to be just a party. I got Angelo DiCicco.

That's not really accurate. He doesn't have that mustache anymore. I got Rich Froning. I got John Young. He's the more aggressive version of Brian Friend. I got Travis Mayer on the invite list. I got Dave Castro. You think Dave Castro is going to show up just to say hi?

Jason Kalipa. That guy won the games before there was electricity. James Hobart. Look at these guys. And then me. So that's 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 people. Let me see. I should probably text.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We will be on for an hour. Drop in any time. Come and go as you please. I'm texting Travis. He claims he's watching the kids. I wonder if he is or he's just trying to find a way out. What's he doing?

Oh, look at this look at this we just got uh i just got a text message from gabe over at paper street coffee i probably shouldn't just read people's text messages out loud hey guys i was thinking about doing a contest and giving away a free paper street Rogue barbell to your listeners? Yeah. The last contest I was supposed to give these away. I was supposed to give these away. Those of you who won them, I think two – I never mailed your prize. I suck. I make fun of Craig Ritchie for clickbait.

Well, at least he probably, when he says he's going to send you guys a prize he does i didn't send any i think it was uh it was a lady and a dude i think logan mars may have been the guy that won i forget who the lady was dm me again keep bugging me if i don't send you your prize keep bugging me yeah yeah yeah free barbell that's what he says i mean that's not for certain he's just he's probably justing. He probably didn't want me to say that. That's a good dude, by the way. Paper Street Coffee. Oh, the other sponsors, barbilljobs.com, barbilljobs.com and California Hormones. Don't forget to support them. Check them out.

They make the show go round. Paper Street Coffee. This is the cup Gabe sent me. It's a Yeti cup. I'm assuming he ordered this from Yeti and had them put these stickers on it, but Yeti, maybe Gabe, you should ask for your money back because the stickers are falling off. 11 a.m., we will be partying with the big boys. I'm tempted to invite Colton Mertens. I wonder if he would talk if he came on the air wads on me send

me a bunch of stickers miss danielle brandon i think he sells these on his website i haven't been over there though jason hooper the machine he's nicknaming people too for those you don't know i made up tdc the dave cast Castro. That was mine. Colton Mertens. I want to stick this on my microphone, but it's not a CrossFit show. I got these other wads on. Oh, look at this one. The Evening Wipe Down. I think this is to make fun of the Morning Chalk Up.

Morning Chalk. God, how much better would it be if they changed the name to morning cock up does every man awake with an erection is that just that's just that's normal right if not i need to see a doctor guys i hope you love that. I did not nickname Jason Hopper. I did not nickname him that, Eric, Jason Flopper. That was someone in the comments. I actually don't approve of that. It really upsets me that I think that that's actually even funny. It's a guilty pleasure I have. I think that that's actually even funny. So it's a guilty pleasure I have. I'm looking at my notes here. You guys want to see something interesting that I saw yesterday?

Let me see if I can find it over here. I need to do a live call-in show. I'm starting my notes for the live call-in show are starting to get huge again. I want to show you Instagram. I want to go over here to the Dave Castro. Oh, the Dave Castro's Instagram. And I want to show you this. This is really weird. Share screen. Share screen. This is Dave's Instagram. This is 13 hours ago. I'm assuming he went yesterday.

If he comes on the show today, I'll send him a link. Honestly, I have no idea if he's really going to come on or not. Hopefully, he'll come on for a minute. He really likes Rich. I saw that Jason actually went out to the ranch the other day too to do some shooting with his son. So I'm guessing that him and Jason are talking. But there is no reason for Dave Castro to go to Palo Alto. If you guys don't know about Palo Alto, it is the mecca for everything money it is the home of everything it's it's where apple is facebook i mean it's netflix it is so if dave's going over there i have to assume he's meeting with people with a shitload of money so let me see what this says i was in palo alto today i stopped by crossfit palo alto tim the owner and a master's games athlete, has Greg Glassman's fitness in 100 words hanging prominently in the gym. Cool to see old school gym like this who still proudly support and give credit to what Greg created.

Nothing Dave does is – it's not like me. I'm just desperate to post shit, so if I see my kid jump over a wagon, I post it. He does not do that. I think everything he does is a clue and for some reason i don't think that this clue has anything to do with him visiting a crossfit gym uh so um it's just I found that. I called him just to see what's going on. Hopefully he'll call me back and we'll find out. DB7 is an absolute animal.

Hoping she challenges for the podium this year at the DEI Games. Oh, Danielle Brandon 7. Why do you call her DB7? Why is it called that? Let me see. What's her sticker? What's that in reference to? I hope he visits. Bro, bro, bro bro bro susie he ain't visiting your ass your ass is out in the sticks yours is where like the poor the

dudes only make 500 grand a year live in your hood susie you you're you're in millionaire land you ain't in billionaire land boy ain't coming out there coming out there come visit out there, come visit us. Uh, it is, it is weird. I'm telling you it's, it's weird. It's weird. It's, it's weird. I hope whatever he does, he needs a media guy. I re I really am the, uh, I really, I've really gotten full of myself lately. I really am something special. What I did at CrossFit is just nuts. I've had time to reflect i like what i see i like what i see all right guys david rush was great today uh we will be back in two hours and uh 49 minutes uh if you didn't watch the podcast from yesterday with uh patrick met david you should watch that the one today actually i thought was pretty cool too that dude's pretty cool um get a little

squirrely when he misused the word sex and use gender but you know no one's perfect yeah well