The Sevan Podcast - #686 - Xaviaer DuRousseau

Episode Date: November 29, 2022

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Other conditions apply. It's 70 miles south of you. Bam, we're live. Sounds good. Xavier DeRusso. DeRusso. DeRusso. I knew I was going to screw it up.

It's French. A lot of unnecessary letters in there. Xavier DeRusso. Oh. Did I say it right? DeRusso. DeRusso. Xavier DeRusso.

I'm horrible with names. Xavier DeRusso. DeRusso. Xavier DeRusso. I'm horrible with names. Xavier DeRusso. Xavier. And I found you on Instagram and you're friends with Matt Souza. Yes. What a small world. I know, right? CFL's been great.

Love CrossFit Livermore. Yeah. How did you find CrossFit? Two of my friends were already going there. Actually, a lot of my friends were going there. And during the pandemic, 24-hour fitness shut down. And I did not want to try CrossFit at all. But it was the only option that was open at the time.

So I ended up trying it. And I loved it. So I stuck around. So was Sousa open illegally? Was he, like, giving the finger to the man? I'm not sure if it was legal or illegal. I was minding my business. I just knew that the gym was open, so I was there.

Yeah. And you loved it right away? It was brutal, but I loved it. I knew I was going to stick around. I loved just all the different aspects of it, like the competitiveness of it, that it was combining cardio and strength and all these different things that i wasn't hitting for a while uh because i was getting really stagnant at 24 hour fitness but i got really motivated being at cfl and how old are you i'm 25 two things um i want to say to you all right about thank you for what you're doing yeah i said something kind of crazy yesterday i thought it was crazy when it came out of my mouth

I was thinking that there's the two most important times in the history of man and my history is not fantastic that it was relevant that you have melanated skin is during slavery and right now I don't think that the only

reason why race is important today is I almost feel like the world has to be saved. Not the world. This country has to be saved by people with melanated skin. Like what you do. I think one of the biggest, greatest things we can do to other human beings is to set them free is to liberate them as to, so that around us, they don't feel our judgment that they're free to be who they want to be and you're doing that well thank you yeah it's it is truly um it would almost be funny to see who's more scared to to speak who's more scared to speak within their communities of what they truly feel. And yeah, it's a really bizarre time. I wonder if your perspective is the same as mine.

In a lot of ways. Yeah, I definitely feel like we are fighting for freedom all over again. Because back then it was slavery physically, but now it's like mentally so many people are still enslaved. You have this culture where you're not allowed to think a certain way. You're not allowed to move and operate in a certain way. Otherwise you are condemned. You are essentially virtually lynched is the way they do it. As soon as you speak out with conservative values or anything that goes against the popular narrative, everyone slaughters you. They jump on you and you are punished in this way where you think,

okay, well, I'm never going to do that again because I now know what the people above me are going to do. And oftentimes those people above me are just my own community. It's horrible. Isn't it weird that we're both in the Bay Area? It is. It's a struggle out here, but I love love it everyone's always asking me when i'm gonna leave and i'm too spoiled living here the weather's too good wineries and everything i just can't see myself leaving here anytime soon i know i don't think i can either the um more than more than the the politics the harder part i guess is the cost of living besides being around so many close-minded people.

Yeah, especially I'm from the Midwest originally. So I remember back home, I have so many friends with these beautiful homes or their mortgage is only $500, huge backyards and all their neighbors are friendly. And here it's like you pay $2,200 and you have a tiny little box and a one bedroom and you still probably have to rent out something just to make it work it's it's crazy so many people like working professionals there's like six people in one house just each renting a bedroom like it's insane like how do you raise a family in that kind of culture well unfortunately you send them to school and they get fucked up yeah if you have kids and for some reason you can't homeschool you weren't homeschooled i was not public school and brought

up in a home a home that voted uh hillary obama biden the whole very very democrat very liberal me too and and uh do-gooders right you always viewed your family as do-gooders, good people, save the trees, look out for the poor people. That was the – is that the – No, it was a bit of a poverty mindset sometimes. It was every man for themselves type of mentality a lot of the times. What do you mean? When I think of the Democrats, I was raised that the Democrats were the good people who cared about the poor people and the Republicans were the bad people who didn't care about the environment and only cared about the rich. Well, a lot of times the poor people only care about the poor people. And even when they start to be a little less poor, they still only care about themselves. And when I say the poor people and the poor people, I mean that particular person. A lot of times people don't look out for themselves the way that they want to. They just blame everything on the big, bad, rich, white, old Republicans instead of ever looking at the damage that's being done within their own community. Like the amount of times you'll see soup kitchens getting robbed, it's like they're their own downfall more often than not. So a lot of times I would just see selfishness more than anything, especially when I would spend time in Chicago, people just being very selfish, poor people robbing other poor people. I, in the, in the last 20 years of my life,

I had the opportunity to be around a lot of wealthy people. And what I noticed is when times get rough or when taxes go high, they don't suffer. Who suffers is everyone in their circle, meaning you tax someone who's rich and Nancy Pelosi and Gavin Newsom get the money. And it filters through them and then maybe turns into some sort of welfare check. But when rich people get taxed, basically they fire the gardener they they they take their car less often to get it washed they basically it hurts all the entire fucking working class and i know reagan used to call that trickle down economics and i know so many people don't believe in it but i i witnessed it firsthand yeah i definitely believe in trickle-down economics. And there was an analogy someone gave me once, and you'll have poor people sitting on the side of the street

and someone drives past driving, let's say, a Lamborghini or some expensive car, and you'll see them pointing at that person saying how terrible of a person they are, all the mouths they could have fed instead of buying that car. But what they're not thinking about is that was a commission check for the person that sold the car. That was a check for the people who built the car. That was a check for the people who cleaned and detailed the car. And for the people who are going to maintain the car later, all of those people are now being fed because he bought that vehicle. So if he didn't buy that vehicle, then what do you say to those people who were possibly affected by him buying it? You nailed something right on the button there is it's

a misnomer there is no such thing as that was a waste of money that the only there's only there's only one way you can waste money and that's to burn it money that never it it never goes away it keeps into circulation so when you drop a hundred dollars into a video game machine that i see my kids you know drop twenty dollars into the video game machine that – I see my kids drop $20 into the Ninja Turtle machine. I might think it's a waste for me, but it's not a waste. There's 20 people who that arcade employs who just got that money. Yeah, it is absolutely insane. I had this moment.

I was making a documentary about a guy, and he went to this seminar in New York City. This is in probably 2000. And it was a seminar where a guy talks to you about three hours on how to get rich. And then if you like it, you buy his 10, 10 DVDs. Right. And then you get rich. And I was listening to it and the whole time, like, this is a scam. This is a scam. And I'm not a religious guy at all, but there's one thing that this guy said that just stuck with me as I'm sitting there with my friend who's taking the class. He said, if you resent everything you resent, God gives you everything you want. And so if you resent rich people, he'll make sure or she'll make sure that you're never rich because he doesn't want to give you something you don't want.

And that fucking hit me like a lightning bolt. you something you don't want. And that fucking hit me like a lightning bolt. And I told myself at that point, every, I built a mantra into my life that I use to this day. Every time I see a penny or a nickel or any money on the ground, even if it's like, there's like 10 people sitting around and someone might be embarrassed. I'll go over and pick up the money, the penny. And I'll say to myself, and actually I'll say it out loud. I am a money magnet. And I swear to you, Xavier, from that moment on, my life has been on an upward trajectory financially. Wow. It just changed my mindset. And I don't resent any, when I see a Ferrari go by, I don't, and I see a guy in it. I'm like,

man, congratulate. I think in my head, I congratulate him. I sent him, I sent him some vibes. That's awesome. And I faked it till I made it. And to this day, now I believe it. I want to be happy for other people's successes, not resentful. I agree a hundred percent. I've never thought about just picking up every single penny and saying I'm a money magnet. I had to think about that a little more, but I don't, I totally get the settlement and, uh, or the sediment. And, um, I see that I've always felt like the way that you manifest things is very powerful. The mentality that you have and what you're going for very much has an impact on what you're going to achieve. Like my entire life, I never wanted for you. I have no problem cheering for you, celebrating you, your accomplishments, what you're doing and what you're achieving, because I know when it's my time that I'm going to have earned it. And it's going to be something that I didn't just get out of a

fluke. It's going to be something I worked for and that I've been saying is coming my way this this whole cohort of people who it, I, I, I see as damaging society under the guise of helping society, right? They think that they're, they're, they're protesting with BLM. They're saying everyone should get the vaccine to help society. They're saying that, um, you, you, there's things you can and can't say. You can't say that a black man is articulate because that insinuates something you can't um uh there's all sorts of rules you can't say that that's an oriental rug i remember when that happened right i was a little kid and i said oh we have an oriental rug and someone's like you can't say that anymore that's offensive and this the whole pc thing that was happening why do you is there is there a since since you and i flipped the script since you and i finally realized and understood the mechanism of how the brain works that being

offended about anything is our personal responsibility and only leads to misery do you think that there's hope for everybody? Everybody is a stretch, but I'd say the majority of people, I'd say it's happening. It's starting to get there because activism more often than not hurts the people that you are advocating for. We're seeing so many people being erased out of their own narrative or out of their own spaces just from activists. You see it in women's sports where people are trying so hard to fight for the justice of women, but now they're saying that these men

who are wearing a party city wig can identify as women, kicking women out of their own spaces. And we're supposed to applaud that? Yeah, explain that to me again. That was fascinating the way you said that. Their activism is getting them out of their own spaces. I knew right away that woke culture basically, there's's no loyalty that they'll that they'll cannibalize

their own there's no one minute uh you're one minute the nurses are heroes the next minute they're being cannibalized one minute kairi is the oppressed black man the next minute he's the fucking bad guy like there's no there's no fucking boundaries. Anyone who steps off that line, one minute you're marching the gay pride parade, and now you're having to defend transgender people who are grooming kids. And I apologize for conflating those two things. I know they're two separate things. I apologize to transgender people, which I don't do very often but there's uh they'll cannibalize their own yeah there is no end to that to that to their mission it's just to walk a narrower and narrower and narrower line until we turn into fucking north korea yes to the point where they're just they're being so woke that they're putting themselves into corners like if you just saw the shooting that happened in Colorado Springs,

that entire story seems to have vanished from mainstream news ever since the shooter came out as non-binary. That's crazy to me because now you have a clearly mentally ill individual who identifies as non-binary. So you have to respect their, they, them pronouns. And on top of that, you can't even say anymore

that this is a deranged killer like we would normally say that they were because you can't call a non-binary person mentally ill because then that's a stigma in itself. So now they have literally put themselves in a corner where they have to respect the pronouns and the just psychological disorder that a serial killer has or a mass murderer has that's insane isn't it that was really funny how

that um all of a sudden he wasn't a real non-binary that was fucking crazy again just complete hypocrisy i thought we weren't supposed to question it at all. I thought if someone said that on a whim, they identify as a woman or as a frog, even we're supposed to just suddenly respect it. They are. It's just this like a horseshoe effect. It's the further we get from one point, we just get closer to the other. And it ends up being the same, just idiotic mentality just from two different perspectives and we keep seeing it over and over can you tell me are you were born in the midwest where were you born i was born in chicago but i grew up in central illinois and uh and your parents are they still together yes somehow yeah congratulations and um and what did your parents, are they still together? Yes, somehow. Yeah, congratulations.

And what did your parents do for a living? My dad ended up having a bunch of different jobs. Now he's been a truck driver for the last decade, I believe. But the economy hit him hard, so he ended up having to bounce around from jobs a lot of the time. My mom worked at a material handling factory pretty much my entire childhood. And do you have siblings? Yes. I'm the youngest of five, but I grew up with two, grew up with my mom's two kids, my dad's two kids from his previous relationship, grew up in California. And how old were you when you moved to California? I was 19. Oh, shit. moved to california uh i was 19 oh shit wow yeah it was pretty abrupt yeah and and that and did you and your family moved out with you no i moved out here on my own oh wow did you play sports as

a kid yeah i did track and football for one year and during during this time being raised, did you view yourself as a Democrat as a kid? Like if you would do mock elections in the high school, you would check the box, you know, Hillary or Obama? I identified as a socialist. I had no idea what socialism really was, but I thought I was a democratic socialist. I thought Bernie Sanders was going to be the savior of all people, especially when I was in college, because then the second he said that college was going to be free for everyone, I was jumping all over that. But I had no idea what I was actually talking about. But I was very loudly a Democrat with no substance. Another misconception, right? There's nothing that's free. That's correct. Absolutely nothing that's free.

free that's correct absolutely nothing that's free and yet they use that word free they use all so many times words are being used or things are being said like during covid they kept saying stuff like um minority minorities are disproportionately affected i wish they just would have every time they said that instead they said something that was useful like, hey, by the way, people with black skin, because your skin is biologically prepared better to live at the equator. You don't absorb as much vitamin D, so please take vitamin D supplementation. What if they would have said that every single time instead of play the victim? It's so easy. Right? Isn't that just like just a no brainer?

Well, that's the exact opposite of what they want. They want black people and people of color to have this victim mentality so that we continue to be dependent on these systems that they've established for us. Because if you said something that was actually logical, then that would make sense. And there's a solution attached to that. The reason that we have so many of these just senseless movements is because it's so much easier to say that we're fighting for a problem that doesn't exist because then you don't have to do any actual work. Like they continue to say that we need to fight this police brutality epidemic when that's not an epidemic. That's barely happening. Do you know how rare it is for an unarmed Black person to be shot by a police officer? And more often than not, it is very much warranted. I used to think that it was happening hundreds of times a year and that

it was just, we were being hunted down as Black people by the police. And that's not the case. It happens roughly a dozen times. And again, those people were more often than not still a violent threat, but that does not align with the narrative that they want they want us to be in a constant state of fear because fear is the achilles heel of black america it's along that line too when i when i first started getting red pill when i first started waking up i used to think well there's no there's no such thing as systemic racism and i started going down that rabbit hole. And then more and more, and especially after listening to you, I realized there is systemic

racism. The systemic racism is coming from the people is being pushed by the people who say that they want to get rid of it just by saying those things by the systemic racism is trying to make people feel like the victim you get what i'm saying so by by saying that the systemic racism is the fact that you're spreading the message that people are disproportionately affected by certain things instead of giving them the solution because what you're doing is like what you said you're pushing them into a corner and it's the victim corner and there's no out. Exactly. And then you're condemned if you try to get out of the victim corner. It's like, why am I the bad guy? When I look at black person, I say, you are capable of doing whatever it is that you want to do. And there's no one or nothing

that can hold you back. I'm problematic when I say that I'm supposed to tell someone that you are less capable and that's what gets celebrated. It's like at some point you just get to where you no longer care when they boo you because you know what it is that they cheer for. They cheer for victim mentality. They cheer for us to be in this box. And when everyone wants to bring up white supremacy, white supremacy is not even close to being one of the biggest issues affecting the Black community. We have so many issues within the community and culture that we need to fix, but we're told to focus on white supremacy because, again, that's just a fear tactic that they use so easily. And if anything

is white supremacy today, it's the mentality that we are told that we were supposed to be viewing ourselves as a victim. New age white supremacy is convincing Black people that they are less capable and swearing up and down that they're oppressed. I wish people understood how narcissistic that is to tell me as a Black person that I'm oppressed when I say that I'm not, and it's factual that I'm not. It's fascinating. I'm sure you've seen those videos where the guy walks onto campus at UC Berkeley, and he basically paints these people into a corner where they think that for some reason because of the color of your skin you have trouble getting a driver's license insane and and they don't realize how racist they're being it's fascinating do you think

it's that they don't understand the basic mechanism of the how the human brain works why can't they see it it's like for me and you it's like right in front of it's like dude you can't you just you just judge someone by the color of their skin you know some people are just blind to logic sometimes it's like cognitive dissonance but a lot of the times it's people don't look at it from a common sense perspective like i feel like you're trying to add a lot of logic and common sense to something that doesn't have any foundation. These people were told by social media that Black people are oppressed and that we need to save all people of color and that white people need to feel guilty for what their great, great, great, great grandparents did. And because

of that, they've taken it and ran with it because they also are kind of trapped. I almost feel bad for certain liberals because they are trapped in the same system. I feel bad for them, too, to be honest with you. I feel bad for them, too. I'm like, holy shit, your life looks like it's miserable. And it's always another layer added. It's like it's not even enough to be not racist anymore. You have to be anti-racist.

They just continue to push this envelope of what it is that is expected from liberals and from all of us, really, from all races, how it is that we're supposed to believe. And it all really ties into votes. I mean, the rabbit trail of it is the mentality is supposed to tie people down to a certain mentality or to a certain ideology to where we have to fight this victimhood and we have to save people of color and the only people wanting to do that because they're pushing the fraudulent narrative is the left yeah it's it's fascinating when when when you so you come here when you're 19 and what was this your first time in california um technically yes and what were your and you

did you land where you're at now? Is that where you landed? I was in Brentwood briefly and for like a couple months and then I moved to the Tri-Valley area. So I've been here the whole time. And how did you choose Brentwood? I was actually there just like visiting some family friends essentially and doing some networking. Then I ended up securing opportunities out here. So I ended up just moving here abruptly. For those of you who don't know, I don't know how it is now, but when I was a kid, Brentwood was the country. It was like, there was like farming out there and livestock. It's basically, I'd say 70 miles inland from San Francisco, due east. Yeah. That's why I had to get out of there as soon as possible. I was like, I didn't leave the Illinois cornfields to be in a California cornfield. Right, right. And

then you moved out here. And is that scary at 19 to do that? Oh, terrifying. It was definitely terrifying. It was premature looking back on it. But I mean, it worked out for me. Luckily, I just was really bold and I guess believed in my vision enough to just go for it. So I did. Plus at the time I was very liberal, wanted to be around the liberal area, wanted to be around just the culture of the Bay area, just to end up accidentally red pilling myself and becoming a conservative. You say that, and we'll get to that part of the story, but I found this video, and this video is I think you in high school. Isn't the internet great? And this video shows some really – the audio is really bad on this, guys, but I want you to hear this.

He already knew in high school. He already knew in high school he already he already knew in high school listen to listen what is this by the way this is just at your at your high school i forgot this video except or existed but yeah this is i think my junior i think this is my senior year you're already saying some really smart shit here listen if you guys can hear uh do you feel that all people are treated equally in the town already saying some really smart shit here. Listen if you guys can here. Do you feel that all people are treated equally in the town of Pontiac?

The question says, do you think all people are treated equally in the town? And this is the town you lived in outside of Chicago? Yes. Okay. Here we go. Now, why is that? I feel like people just look down upon and there's too much judgment.

And once again, it's not just cardiac. It's just a nationwide thing that needs to be solved. And with people trying to solve it, it's being overcorrected in a way people— There it is. You say—he asks, do you think all people are being treated equally? And you said, no, it's not just here. It's all over the country. And then he goes on to say, but the problem is, is people are overcorrecting.

This isn't even 2020 yet. And you already know people are over fucking correcting. Here we go. Here we go. Are trying to make bigger issues out of things that shouldn't be. People are trying to make bigger issues out of things that shouldn't be. Making more people have tension towards the issue.

Making people have tension towards the issue. Becoming very uncomfortable. And making things uncomfortable. It was like, you already knew. You already knew in 2019. Wow. Like, hey, we have problems.

But there's been a, there's been, and that is what's happened. There's been a there's been and that is what's happened there's been a the course correction has been so fucking massive that um that there's a demand to see racism everywhere i mean i'm sure you've seen it the most ridiculous one now is that climate change is anything that they can attribute towards racism and climate change is like the new frontier for racism and And I, to be honest with you, the other ones, I can kind of like make up how they're seeing it. This one, I can't even understand what they're saying. Yeah. Well, first thing I have to say, that video was from like

2015, actually. That was, I'm impressed. I didn't know I was a little more unwoke back then that I give myself credit for. I'd say probably the year after that, once I got to college, is when I really, really started getting woke. But I'm proud of myself, proud of senior year me, that I wasn't too indoctrinated yet. But yes, when it comes to climate change, I really just think it's a money laundering thing. Because again, it's one of those things where they're putting so much money and attention towards something that doesn't require it because there's no actual solution in mind. So they're giving these billions and billions of dollars to plant trees. It's like, yes, planting trees is a great thing, but we don't need this much money towards climate change. And the way that their narrative shifts every few years on that is wild because it was global warming.

Then it was global cooling. Whatever happened with the ozone layer? The ozone layer literally just magically fixed itself what happened to over population now we're in a population decline yeah i'm hearing all these things about a population collapse like they can't pick a struggle because there is no actual end goal there it's just money going towards the system that continues to just circulate within itself. By the way, I saw yesterday, I saw a study, 30 scientists have done that there is like in the last 10 years, there's been a 14% increase in foliage on the planet, which is equivalent to the size of the United States. And they're saying it's because of all the CO2 in the air that plants are just

flourishing, that they're growing at some like accelerated speed. Go figure. I didn't know that. Go figure. I'll send you the, I'll send you the, uh, I'll send you the article. It's fascinating. It's really cool. Um, so, okay. So you come here and when I used to see the black light, I lived in Berkeley, California. And when I first started seeing Black Lives Matter signs, I 100 percent just assumed that it was the black community speaking to itself. I had no – I thought – you know what I mean? I thought, okay, Black Lives Matter. This is – whenever I would see those signs in a home, I would think, oh, that's probably a black family lives there, and they're telling other black families there. there and they're telling other black families there because in my mind i i had the narrative already i knew about the crazy um statistics you know 51 of all murders in the united states were committed by six percent of the population if you organize them by sex and color of their skin

and like i was acutely aware of that and i lived in and i lived in the bay area so i saw and i walked a lot so i saw all sorts of crazy shit in Oakland and in Berkeley and in Richmond. But that's not what Black Lives Matter ended up being. Black Lives Matter ended up being just this huge, massive movement. I don't know what it was. videos where not from your firsthand experience, but from the message that black people were oppressed. So you lived it. You embrace the message rather than what you were experiencing. And we saw the whole world do that with COVID, right? That is true. And clearly white people have not experienced, the vast majority of white people have not experienced being oppressed as a black man, but yet they all jumped on the bandwagon.

They believe the narrative without any personal data points themselves. I would say what took me a long time to differentiate is there is a big difference between systemic racism and what I call circumstantial racism. Pretty much every individual from every creed has dealt with prejudice in some capacity. But growing up, and I grew up in a predominantly white area, so there were some just ignorant, immature kids that I would deal with. Or maybe even here and there, there was maybe a parent who said something that was not culturally correct. So I viewed it as racist. But in my mind, I completely equated that to this systemic issue that was holding me down.

And the more I started to root myself in my skin color, the more I started to feel like anything that ever went wrong in my life was because I was black. So that was where that self-oppression mentality happened. It was like I put shackles on my own feet with that mentality. And for so long, that is what so many people aligning with BLM have been doing, because there is not a systemic issue. There is no policy or even just a socially accepted

construct that is holding back people of color. And with Black Lives Matter, that was very much a calculated, just again, a political ploy and a political arm because it got people up in arms about these issues that weren't actually nearly as prevalent as people try to make them seem. If you look at some of the most high profile BLM situations, there were so many lies that have been exposed over time about those situations, but nobody wants to talk about it. over time about those situations, but nobody wants to talk about it. Even if you remember Breonna Taylor, I would say after George Floyd, she was probably the biggest poster child of BLM. And the narrative was that she was this EMT minding her business to sleep in her apartment, and the police just randomly started shooting into her apartment and they were at the wrong place. That could not be any further from the truth. It's like Breonna Taylor, may she rest in peace, but she was knee deep in a criminal investigation. Her ex-boyfriend was handling a drug operation and she was handling the financials of the drug operation.

And her boyfriend that was her new boyfriend was in the apartment with her and shot at the police first after they announced themselves. Everyone says it was this. Yes, they had a no knock warrant, but they they actually did announce themselves all of this has factually been laid out but that wouldn't align with their narrative they found a fucking dead body in her rental car i didn't know that yeah they found a dead body in her rental car. Breonna Taylor rental car dead body. Weeks before the warrant. Was a dead body found in Breonna Taylor's rental car? Yes.

Let's see. Wow. I don't know. I didn't even hear about that. Yeah. Breonna Taylor rented a car in December 2016 and loaned it to her then boyfriend jamarcus glover fernandez bowman was later found dead in the car according to wkyt he had been shot eight times and was found slumped over the wheel

wow see how people just skim right over that information it's fucking and and what you said he shot at the cops first after they announced themselves what what i would for all the people who are upset i always go straight here what if you and your family was next door to brianna taylor's house would you have wanted the cops to get rid of them? Fuck yeah, you would have. It's the same thing with George Floyd. Would you have wanted George Floyd driving around high in your neighborhood, high on meth, alcohol, and fentanyl with your two-year-old child riding the tricycle in the street? You would have zero tolerance for that. Absolutely not.

He was a menace to his community. He committed armed robbery on a pregnant woman and people just want to act like he was this saint. And just to show- Home invasion, brother. Home invasion on a pregnant woman, put a gun to her belly. Insane. Absolutely insane.

And just to show how there's no bound to this, even Breonna Taylor's mother got canceled because she called out BLM for the fact that they made millions of dollars in her name, image, and likeness, and not a single cent went to Breonna Taylor's family. So when you got swept by that movement, the Black Lives Matter movement, at this point, I still hadn't been red-pilled, but as I saw the Black Lives Matter movement grow, I started becoming very, very, very, very suspect. I would go to places like Portland, the largest white city in the United States, and there would be BLM signs everywhere. And I'm thinking to myself, these people have no fucking clue. Like, what the fuck are they doing? And, but you got swept up by it. Can you tell me like your journey into, like, were you a BLM member? Like, were you a card holder?

Did you donate money and get some sort of like, how does the organization work? I never donated money. I just pretty much went to different events and I was advocating online for the movement for the longest time. I would say roughly 2018 onward to 2020. I was just active on social media, always talking about racial injustice. And then I got really involved in 2020 because I actually got bored during the pandemic and I applied for a reality show. And the premise of the reality show, I still can't say publicly

because of NDAs, but it was a popular reality show. The premise was similar to Big Brother, except you don't meet your competitors. It's all virtual. So some people are selected to be catfish and you know, the term catfish trying to be somebody else online. And I was pretty much told to be, were you going to be a woman? I was going to be a white sorority girl who taught people how to be a BLM ally was the whole thing that I was portraying. So I started studying BLM more in depth because I wanted to be ready for all the counter arguments that would come with that. And as I listed out just like different talking points and people, I wanted to go up against their points. I stumbled on Candace Owens and she had a video that to this

day just lives in my head rent free, where she was saying how the black community is unique because only in the black community do we take our lowest common denominator and make that the forefront of what represents us. And I was thinking about that more. I'm like, you would be hard pressed to find other communities who take their criminals and their drug addicts and make those people the glorified figures in their community and i was so mad at her that in spite of her i tried to be a pro-debater and every single time i tried to go against her talking points i ended up just dismantling my entire narrative by accident when when you were are there any things that you still think back then when you were such a advocate by the way congrats that's awesome that you met candace yeah she's so sweet in person i've spoken to her many times virtually i actually work for her non-profit blexit um oh that's hers

yeah blexit is excellent i love blexit can't speak enough about them um they're doing the Oh, that's hers? that good stuff um black sit represents and they have great merch great merch uh i'm gonna play this hopefully i don't get in trouble for playing this um i'm gonna show you guys this here real quick so i grew up in a very liberal and democratic household i watched way too much media and i was indoctrinated with this belief that nice shirt by, by the way, dude, you look yoked. Thank you. I was going to go outside and be gunned down by police and become the latest Black Lives Matter hashtag. Say his name! Say his name!

So there it is. That's the line. You were believing the propaganda and then you said another. You were believing the propaganda, and then you said another – and so you thought you started – they had programmed you to think that you were going to be gunned down if you had interaction with cops. And then the other thing that you said that was fascinating to me earlier was that you so identified with your skin color that you made it an issue every time you had a hardship in life. Yes, and a lot of that came from where I grew up because I was born in Chicago. I spent a lot of my summers and like every other weekend there. And whenever I was there because of the way I spoke and where I lived, they would say I was a white black person or an Oreo or something like that. Then I would go back to Pontiac where I was surrounded by white people. And because I

was always being told to hyper-focus on race, I would start feeling like I stuck out there. So I really just didn't know where I would fit in. So as I got older, especially once I got to college, I really felt the need that I had to find my identity and my identity had to be in the way that I looked. By the way, I'm going to switch your Instagram is just at Xavier, right? Yes. Spelled X-A-V-I-A-E-R. Correct. So I just put a little at in front of there. Thank you.

Okay, here we go. Say his name! Say his name! I started posting about Black Lives Matter on social media. I became an activist for Black Lives Matter. And it ended up getting me a platform to where i was actually casted to be on a reality show so as you build this platform in this identity as a um black lives matter activist was it hard did any part of you

not as you started waking up being like oh but fuck i've already come too far down this way maybe i can just put my head in the hole and look the other way. I, well, I knew that just, it would be like if I started hating CrossFit, I spent the last 15 years jerking these guys off. And now all of a sudden I'm like, nah, I don't touch that. I would say I didn't hesitate much in the fact that I needed to be truthful because it was just something I really felt my values led me to do. It was to speak my mind on these issues.

But I was scared, I could say. I was a bit nervous about the backlash. And of course, there was a lot. Lost quite a few friends, family members saying that I'm a white supremacist as if that would benefit me in any way. I even had a cousin tell my mother at a funeral that I'm a member of the KKK. And I'm like, please give me the logistics on how that would work. It's crazy. You know, and I think it would be fair to say that you believe in people.

Like one of the cornerstones of what you do, maybe not cornerstone, foundation of what you do is the fact that you believe in people. It's the exact opposite. You believe in people regardless of the color of their skin, but you especially believe in people who have black skin and that you don't want them to be oppressed anymore, that you don't want them to be oppressed by their own narrative. That's basically – you want to – there's's nothing greater have you ever been around that person who lets you just feel free all of a sudden yeah you know what i mean like like you're at the beach with them and you're like you take your shirt off and you're just hanging out and you're just like holy fuck this person's so fucking cool anything goes yes like those people who just uplift and empower you like those are the kind of people you want to be around. I always tell people maximize your freedom. You have it for a reason. Like if you're around a really good

professional photographer, that's the way they make you feel. Like if you're doing a photo shoot or a good documentarian, they basically in their space, you're just free. And so to say that you're any kind of oppressor to me is batshit crazy because you want to set people free from their own mental cage. It's like so obvious to me. Yeah. Thank you. And on that show, the premise is you don't meet your competitors in person. You only interact virtually.

So you betray whoever it is that you're set to be. And I was set to be a woke white girl who was an ally of Black Lives Matter and was supposed to teach people. At the end of the show, would you have come out and they known that you were a black man and not a white girl who was an ally of Black Lives Matter and was supposed to teach people how to... At the end of the show, would you have come out and they known that you were a black man and not a white girl? Yes. Okay. To be a supporter of Black Lives Matter. Because of that, I wanted to make sure that I was as knowledgeable of all the counter arguments as possible. And everybody asks, what was your

red pill moment? I had a prescription bottle of red pills. I tried to go against Candace Owens. I listed out all the different arguments she had and tried to prove each and every one of them wrong. And every time I proved her right. And I started finally asking myself, how are hundreds of millions of dollars raised by Black Lives Matter? But we're not seeing a single business or community benefiting from this money. Not even the businesses that have been destroyed by Black Lives Matter rioters. Black lives never mattered to them. Black lives didn't ever matter to them. They didn't they didn't ever matter to them.

That is correct. So when you get – when you do this – by the way, my journey was – I was around a lot of libertarians, and they were – so I was getting the constant talk for 10 years, constant talk, constant talk. But for me, I was at a dinner at my house, and there were a handful of people in the kitchen talking about how racist Trump is, and I hated Trump for whatever reason. kitchen talking about how racist Trump is. And I hated Trump for whatever reason. And they were talking about how racist he is. And they kept saying these specific things about him being racist towards Mexicans. And I have a computer in my living room. I have a little office set up in my living room. So I walked over there and I spent 30, 40, 50 minutes trying to find anything racist he had ever said. And I found that I found the lines that they were talking about, about Mexicans and what he was referencing was he was saying that Mexico was sending over their worst people. They were sending over rapists, drug dealers, and criminals. And I'm like, that's not racist. That's, that's

just like, they probably are. Like if I was going to let people cross the border, I'd get rid of my shit people too. And at that point I was like, okay, I'm done. It was just like, bam, I'm done. You know, that's an underrated part of my story that I don't talk about enough to is part of why I feel like people were able to come to me from both sides of the aisle before I was red-pilled, even when I was still very much Democrat and liberal. There was a point, like very much Democrat and liberal, there was a point, I'd say maybe 2019, where I started to be, I guess, a bit more independent because I always wondered how could Donald Trump be so racist when some of the nicest, most like godly Christian people I've ever met in my life love him and say that he is this great president. So when I actually challenged myself to look into

him, I can never find those videos either. And whenever I would ask people for a reference, they would send me literal satire, like satirical articles written about him that were completely fraudulent, or they would have a clip. And then I would go find the full context of the clip. And I just didn't believe any of the narratives that were about him anymore. And when I started actually looking into his policy, they made sense. So I actually did like Trump by the time I was a very, very active BLM activist. But anytime I tried to talk about that,

I was immediately shut down and nobody wanted to have that conversation with me. So I just stopped having it. And I thought that I had this groundbreaking mentality of being independent politically while being socially liberal, thought that I was the only person in the world to have ever done that at the time. And I was wrong just on all sides of the spectrum on that. Do you think that conservatives are more open and libertarians are more open to discussing the issues with liberals than liberals are with

conservatives? A hundred percent, because conservatives don't even want liberals to be censored as far as like speech goes. I can easily say that in the entire 23 years that I spent as a liberal, I didn't have conservatives wanting me to be deplatformed or to be completely silenced. Or more often than not, people were very respectful in the way that they debated or disputed my points. But when I flipped to the other side, and now as a conservative, liberals are so vicious. They try to get my platform deleted. They try to put my personal information out there. I've had them contact my employer.

Like, they have done the most insane things to try to make my life miserable. And it's just such a reflection on their mentality and how they are not the tolerant liberals that they swear that they are. Have you lost an Instagram account? I have not. Knock on wood. I had one with a blue check mark with like maybe 90,000 or 100,000 followers that they took from me. I was confused because I followed you for a while and then you just disappeared and I didn't know what happened. It's crazy.

It is – I didn't – and you know what's nuts is I never feel like I'm posting anything crazy. I've never posted something and I'm like, oh shit, this is walking the line. I've never I've never posted something I'm like oh shit this is walking the line I'd say the COVID stuff was the most delete prone content that you could talk about and I posted tons of that

yeah you could say things I had friends who posted a clip of Dr. Fauci speaking on CNN no commentary no caption just posted the clip and had their platforms deleted. It was, that was probably one of the, we'll go down as one of the darkest times in American history. Because it was just this black hole of information where even what the professionals were saying and the doctors are saying at some point oh wait no

we actually didn't say that anymore and we're all supposed to just memory hole it we're just supposed to act like it didn't happen as if it wasn't right in front of us that was scary scary time to be alive it still is weird you saw that gavin newsom signed into law a lot of people are saying a lot of my liberal friends all my liberal friends completely disagree with this, too, which I find fascinating since they fucking they all voted for Newsom. But they you saw Newsom made it so it's illegal for doctors to give any opinion on covid that isn't handed down by the state. Yeah, I don't know. You can't get a second opinion on covid in California anymore. I just don't even know how that's allowed, Like how are medical boards federally allowing that to happen? Like that's the wildest thing I've ever heard. It's like doctors can't be doctors anymore. It's like, what's the point of even going? Just

go on Google and see what Google already is telling you to do. There was, there was a, um, when I was at CrossFit, there was a Facebook group that had like over 100,000 subscribers, and it spoke badly about carbohydrates. And Facebook pulled that community down. This was even before COVID. Interesting. Yeah, and it just shows you like, hey, M&Ms and Pfizer, they've been ruling for a long time. They've been ruling for a long time. What happened to all your friends?

Did you have friends in the BLM movement? What happened with them? Were you able to talk any sense into any of them? I'd say there's three categories. There's the people who just completely excommunicated me, and that's fine. It is what it is. There's the people who still disagree with me, but are very tolerant of what I have to say. So either they've respectfully

unfollowed or they'll mute my content, but I have, I don't want to say like converted, but I have led a lot of people to the truth. I'm proud of that. A lot of my friends that were a part of the movement with me have woken up to it because they knew how passionate I was about it. And they respected me and my, I i guess better judgment enough to say well if i saw through this and i'm that profoundly outspoken about the lies that i was being indoctrinated with maybe i should look into it too so a lot of people have woken up as well any of the stuff or ideas or thoughts that you had about racism back in that previous life of yours, do any of them still stick that you haven't been able to reconcile? Or any of them were like, well, they had that right. Well, BLM definitely had that right.

You know, like. I don't think there's a single value that BLM as a movement or organization has that aligns with me. I will say one thing that's a misconception is people try to say that I say racism just doesn't exist at all. And yes, like there are still some racist, ignorant people out there. There are still some really wild things happening in the South and in the Midwest here and there. It's very few and far between, but it's not a non-existent issue. But what I'm also able to see now is it's not one-sided like I thought it was. It's happening to so many different demographics of people.

It's especially happening now to white people where white people are being attacked just for being white. So I'd say that- I was white. I've been, I grew up in the Bay area. I was born here in 1972. I was born in children's Oakland children's hospital. And I personally never saw any racism towards blacks, but I saw tons of racism come towards me. Tons, tons and tons. I just told the story the other day, I went to the ice cube concert with my girlfriend and we got there early and I was in the front row and, uh, four dudes, five dudes walk up to me and said, Hey, we better not see you holding hands with her. And when you bet, and you better stay against the back wall the entire time. And they pushed me from where I had my elbows on the stage to the back. Now my girlfriend at the

time was black and they were four black guys. So I jumped to the conclusion that it was because I was white. They never said that they were never like, hey, white boy. But I made that I made that insinuation. Right. Like and I've been in, you know, McDonald's with my friends at one in the morning and, you know, four black dudes come in and they're like, hey. got tons and tons of stories like that but i but my but you know what i'd never thought of it as we we just we just it was just life yeah do you know what i mean i was never like fuck those guys or like i just the way we waited outside i think maybe we went to taco bell you know what i mean it's like that you never categorize an entire demographic right right that was one of the conversations that helps wake me up too, or un-wake me up, you can even say. Two of my closest friends are half Arabic, half white, and they grew up in schools that were predominantly Black. the racism that they dealt with was from black people but obviously since i'm friends with them they never categorize all black people as a racist but more often than not they dealt with that racism and when they did go to maybe a an educator or a professional in the school about it it was

written off because if it was the other way around then it would be a bigger deal but it's like oh you're white it's what you have coming towards you like that's the mentality that people have it's horrible especially towards kids i think that's inexcusable when it's happening towards kids xavier uh in in in as deep as i can go the truth is is it obviously it has nothing to do with skin color absolutely zero it has to do with that mean, I don't even know if this is the right word, but it has to do with culture, right. Or the way you were raised. It's like a pack mentality within the culture. Yeah. So the truth is, is that, um, if you go some, if you go to another country,

like if you go to Kenya, um, you, none, none of the very few and far between the things that we associate with black skin people in the United the United States will stick to those people. It's a completely fucking different culture. Complete – I spend a lot of time in Africa. All – every country has its own culture. But for some reason, black culture in this country, maybe it's because of the word black is in front of it, has got completely conflated with black skin. Right. But we know tons of white people who've embraced black culture. Maybe maybe it's not even fair to call it black culture.

Do you agree with that comment? I do. A lot of Africans totally disassociate from black Americans because the culture is so different and the value system is so different. But urban culture, I don't feel like should have a skin color attached to it, but it does more often than not. Urban culture. And that's and it's bad because when you see people embracing this culture that they were naturally just raised around, they're condemned for it. I even get mad at these rappers if you saw recently there was the florida like one of the top quarterback picks from high school end up having his scholarship revoked from you know that was crazy because he was rapping a song it's like how was he racist if he's learning every single word

to a song by a black artist he's not a racist he's just enjoying the song but he's having his scholarship revoked because of the n-word was in the song and he said it it's like revoke every single scholarship from a black person who said it then too because they were enslaved they didn't go through any of the civil rights movement struggles so why are they able to say it it just makes no sense and his family should sue because that's racial discrimination. Hey, he apologized. What happened to that? Did he are they going to let him back in?

You think I haven't heard an update since he apologized. The last thing I heard was that he apologized. And I guarantee you, it was his parents making him do it just to try to save his career. I don't blame him for doing it, but I wish he would have stuck his guns. I think there would have been better schools who supported him or at least better just individuals i think honestly that there would have been people who supported him just for the fact that it was so unfair what happened to him he did not need that scholarship so i don't know what's going to happen there but it's just a sad state of reality that we're in it's um also on one of the deepest levels my wife's jewish i have

three little jewish boys i'm armenian i find it insane that when my three little boys are born that there's a word waiting on planet earth for them that they are supposed to be offended by their entire life. So you're telling me that there's a word here called kike and that I'm supposed to demand that my kids be offended by that their whole life? I would never do that. I love my kids. I would never demand that they be offended by a word. And yet we have an entire fucking black community from the second that they're born and i think this is at the root of basically systemic racism this is one of those things that is that we demand be offended by this word now should words have meaning and matter yeah for communication yeah i'm not saying we take take away the meaning of it but to demand that people be offended by a word that they have to throw

fists from the second that fucking head crests the fucking labia majora is fucking batshit crazy to me that is that those are those are not loving parents yeah who bring their kids into a world like that who demand that not not the ones who bring their kids into a world like that but the kids the parents who enforce that on their kids it It's shallow thinking. There is no community that is emotionally manipulated like the black community. And it's that way for a reason. And I'm tired of it. It's like, I can't imagine allowing a word to have so much power over me. Like if someone says that to me in an argument, which I could probably count on one hand, how many times it's ever happened for me, it's just like, really, like, can you come up with something else? Like, that's really where you went, like how weak and pathetic

it is. But instead there's so many people who are black people who are treated like they're made of glass and that word is just supposed to shatter them. It's, it's, it's like implanting a weakness in people you the jews and the blacks do that a lot you see a lot of jewish parents do that too they tell their kids and i think i wonder if your parents told you this but my wife's parents told her hey the world's really rough out there people hate jews don't basically don't trust fucking anybody yeah i mean did you get that talk when you were a kid i was told a lot of things of that nature. Sorry if it's loud behind me, the garbage people are here. Um, that's texture. That's texture to the podcast. I love it.

Right. Just the realism of it. Um, yeah, my, my upbringing included a lot of that. I remember being told as a kid that I would never be loved unconditionally by a white person. Um, I have certain family members who still to this day refer to white people as blue-eyed or blue-eyed red-headed devils and always telling me to never fully trust a white person. So I got that a lot growing up. There's some people in my family, particularly on one side, who are very far along with that rhetoric. And I wish that they could just realize how insane their mentality is. All you know, don't the only thing I remember my parents ever saying to me about anyone who is black was that word was not allowed in my house. Like, if you ever said that word like that was like, you're fucked.

That's it. Like, I just knew it was just in the it was in this pantheon of fucking bad words you never ever say and then of course yeah it's forbidden and then of course and and i'm okay with that i think that was a good upbringing i'm glad i was told that but but then of course in the ninth grade uh with my little um tape cassette player from my radio shack computer because that's how i used to load stuff into computers was with the tape a cassette tape i i went through probably 10 copies of nwa because i listened to it so fucking much and i wanted to be them i put i took out the back seats in my car i put in the 415s i always carried a bb gun i wanted to be them yeah you're told if you rap every word to their songs and that means you're racist even though you literally idealize them yeah so much of your childhood but you're racist it's

like no you're not oppressing them by singing the words brainwashed but not racist it's like you're literally putting food on their table by buying their music and supporting their artistry but the second you speak their lyrics, it's a problem. It's just wild to me. What about what Kendrick Lamar did? I was just about to bring that up. I'll never look at him the same for that.

Me neither. For when he brought a kid on stage, knowing the lyrics of the song. I feel like he did that intentionally. That was a very calculated move. I will never forgive him for that. That was horrible. So horrible. That kid was probably traumatized. It was a very calculated move. I will never forgive him for that. That was horrible. So horrible.

That kid was probably traumatized. It was a girl, right? I can't remember if it was a boy or a girl. I haven't seen that video in a while. I just remember it happening. He brought a girl on stage, and then she was singing the lyrics, and then she basically told him – and then she sung the lyrics, and then he basically told her – he stopped the whole song in front of the entire fucking fucking crowd, massive crowd and fucking berated her.

You can't convince me that wasn't planned. He set her up to fail with that. He's lucky she didn't get killed. Right. knowing how irrational people are about that word and in a crowd like that as well where you have drunk angry people just fired up and angry about these lyrics and everything that was horrible that totally set her up for just her entire career could have been ruined from that with the way that things work now a short google search of her if her name ended up getting leaked her career is over yeah um there's a there's a psychological fear that i

experience it when i when i start researching aliens like the thought of there being aliens here fucking freaks me out i i don't i don't i don't like the conversation at all because of my own like because it freaks me out that's part of the part that i think that a lot of people don't understand how hard it is to get red pilled it is scary because it feels like the ground is coming out from underneath you i mean it quickly comes back but do you remember that feeling at all like oh shit like almost like you're going crazy like they're like like someone gave you a lsd or something yeah my entire world was like flipped upside down within a matter of like two months like i had no idea if up was up if down was down anymore and that's why it took a few months before i was willing to speak on anything before i started making content as a new conservative

because i knew i wanted to go all out with it but i just had to find my footing again like i just buried myself into research until i could find out like, what is actually reality? And it's still a learning process to this day. There's still things that I look back on and I might shift my perspective on. Even as a conservative, I'm still trying to remain as objective as possible because there are certain things that I pushed back on in this movement too. But yeah, it took a while. It was a very frightening feeling. What are some of the things, do any come to the top of your head, some of the things you push back on? As far as conservatives? Yeah. I do think that conservatives

can be a little more empathetic. People look at empathy as this really weak thing, but I feel like a lot of conservatives are just way too harsh. And some of the- Or black or white. It's either this or that. Yes. That's the best way to put it. There's a lot of color and gray area there that people don't want to see. And people often want me to have these very absolute opinions on issues when I don't have an absolute opinion. I have a spectrum opinion that i feel like i can put together very concisely but people are like is it a yes or a no but it's not that easy especially

for things like gun laws abortion things of that nature like abortion abortion's got me all abortion i i can admit that it's killing a baby but i still can't be pro-life because i just can't put a law on someone's fucking body i just cannot yeah i think that they're all fucking twisted up on that one i'm like i'd say i'm ideology ideal ideologically pro-life where i think that someone should keep a baby as as long as it doesn't harm their health. But when it comes to legislation, I also feel like as legislation, there should be choice to a certain point. I don't believe in aborting a baby that's ready to be born. I think that there should be a restriction there. But again, I feel like someone should keep a baby, but I don't feel legislatively that we need to force that upon people.

But I get completely ripped to shreds in the conservative movement the second I say that because they want a yes or a no. Yeah, that one especially. And what's crazy is the left keeps pushing it. I don't know if you saw that law they're trying to pass in California. They're trying to pass a law that says that if a baby dies within seven days of being born, that it's illegal to investigate it. Have you seen that? Which means that you could actually kill your baby after it was born. And like I can't – like all of a sudden now they put – it just makes me want to be pro-life. You know what I mean? I'm just like, all right, fuck you guys.

You went too far like i'm okay with plan b or or you know like setting some sort of timeline the first 10 weeks but now you want to you want to extend it past the baby being out of the mother's womb like what what the fuck is wrong with you there are so many videos of people fighting for that too they're saying it's still the mother's choice, even when the baby's outside of the womb. That's so inhumane and illogical. And I feel like both sides have gone too far. Like at some point there has to be some sort of compromise, but people want this party divide because you have so many Republicans who totally want to ban anything. Some Republicans even want to ban condoms and contraceptives. And I've even heard some people say that we should ban birth control and plan B. It's like that's way too far one way.

Then you have people who want to kill their baby who's already out of the womb. That's too far. It's like, where are the sane people in the middle? And where are their voices in this movement, especially when it comes to legislation? I feel like most people logically are within the middle there, but we're not seeing that reflected in policy. Right. What do you think about – what do you think it's like – I need to have someone on who can speak with experience like this, but what do you think it's like being gay or lesbian and having your – and I know this is really biased the way I'm saying this, and having your movement hijacked by transgender people? I've been saying for a while, I feel like they should be more outspoken. I know there's groups out there. There's like, it's called Gays Against Groomers

that are very outspoken about it. And admitting that when people say that, like I put a post up recently where I said, I'm anti-pedophilia, I'm anti-grooming. I'm anti-denying biology. Never said I was anti-LGBT, but people, and I say to people like, ask yourself why you're connecting those two. So I do think that the demographic needs to be a bit more outspoken about it. And some people I was even saying, this is like totally out there, but intersex people, people have totally forgotten that intersex people actually do exist. Like people who have a genetic mutation where they might have multiple things going on and they have health issues.

You mean like give a penis and a vagina, penis and a vagina? I don't know. Is that what intersex is? I don't know if they can have it like that, but like they might have, I don't have any. I'll look it up.

But they can have genitalia of both essentially in one way or another and they usually have issues because of it um they're being they're totally erased and they're being included in lgbt i'm like that's not a sexuality so why are they being included into that uh what does intersex mean intersex is a general term used for a variety of situations in which a person is born with the reproductive or sexual anatomy that doesn't fit the boxes female or male wow yeah so they can have a uterus and a penis like it's a genetic mutation okay or just the chromosomes could be all out of whack i was just um doing some digging and i saw that the first transgender transgender i don't even know if i don't know if the words i'm using are right but the first

transgender operation was done there were two boy twins born and when they circumcised one of the boys they fucking mutilated his penis not uncommon peoplearing off the head of a boy's penis at birth is more insanity. But they mutilated his penis on accident, and so the only way to repair it was to turn it into a vagina. The parents decided and the doctors decided that they would make him a woman because they destroyed his penis, and that was the first transgender operation, the operation transsex. I don't know what they call it. I hate that word gender because people use it so wrong. Half the time they should be using the word – no, 99% of the time they should be using the word sex, and they interchange it with gender, even really smart people. There's so much to all of that because I don't know if you saw the rest of the story i'm assuming you did with that twin

where they turned him into a girl and he had issues his entire childhood because of it oh you know that story oh yeah oh yeah i know it very i thought i surfaced out of the depths of the internet you probably did it's not easy to find i learned about it from uh matt walsh's what is a woman documentary and um it goes into detail about how he ended up taking his own life later his brother also was traumatized from the situation like it was really bad like that and the bad part is the that the um surgery and the just whole experiment was written off as a success they still use that as a successful example but what they've never talked about is the effect that had on his mental health because once he learned about it and learned the truth he started going back to

living his life as a male but he was miserable absolutely miserable i i would be very curious this is going to be really harsh to say, but if there's any people who've gone through a operation, a sex change operation, who are happy? I think it's a fair question, though, but it's probably not a popular one. You should definitely watch Matt Walsh's documentary because there's a lot of organizations out there

about people who regret transitioning, and their chances of suicide are significantly higher once they transition because then they realize they just mutilated their body, created all this new complications in their life, and they still are not who they want to be. Of course not, right? Of course not. There was a picture of you here with Matt Walsh. Oh, it's towards the top. It was recent. Oh, there it is. Right there. Is this the same place where you met Candice?

No, I met Candice in Nashville at a conference with the Black State executives. And then I met Matt in Berkeley just a couple weeks ago. Was it hard meeting them? No, I was in the VIP area because I got the connections there. So I got to meet him pretty easily. It was great. I wish I could have talked to him more, but he was exhausted. He had been working nonstop lately.

You know what's worse than being called transphobic? Going down in history as someone who sat by and said nothing about children being medically castrated and surgically mutilated, all for the sake of acceptance. I'd rather be called a bigot than a bystander i i saw this thing uh yesterday on instagram it said i took my son to get uh a tattoo and he was 14 years old maybe i took it from your instagram account and uh and they said he wasn't old enough to make to consent to get a tattoo at 14. So instead we got them a sex change operation. Yeah. It's bad that that's actually a real thing that can happen. The other thing is this, when someone is a strong argument, I've heard when someone has anorexia, they don't think that they're skinny enough. You can't take them to the hospital

and be like, Hey, we want to do liposuction on them and uh and have their stomach you know have their stomach cut out because that's supporting their their insanity right and yet and yet if someone says they don't want their penis you can take you know you can't go into the hospital and be like hey this arm isn't mine chop it off that's illegal they won't do it. Right. They're trying to write off gender dysphoria like it's not a mental disorder when any angle you look at it, it is literally a mental disorder. It is mental illness by definition. And we're catering to it. We're supposed to empower it and affirm it.

and affirm it um do you do you walk around what in your day-to-day life are you do you feel like you're constantly you're in a state of constantly working on yourself and in a healthy way like as these things like almost like it's exciting to find things to offend you so that you could meditate on them and sort of um uh transcend them like like it's made your life exciting, like you're on a mission almost, like you're on the path to enlightenment, to be free? In some ways, I guess you could say that. I wouldn't say I'm looking for things to offend me. It's more I'm just looking for- Not looking, but as you unsurface them, you're excited. Instead of being pushed away from them, you're like, oh, what is going on here with me? I try to be very observant.

I feel like I'm a very self-aware person. So I try to be very aware of my surroundings, my environment, what's going on around me. And I have like a PhD in people watching on top of that. So I'm always like watching the way like different groups interact and like the way culture changes and all of that. It fascinates me. It always has. So I would say so. Are you optimistic about the future?

Yes, because I have to be. If I wasn't, there would be no point in me doing what I do. If anything, it would just be me complaining all the time. But I do feel like the change is happening and that the change is very realistic and possible. Do you ever think that maybe if you just turned off um uh like if you didn't look at social media or watch tv like sometimes i think maybe there is no maybe i've just found this portal where the fight exists and there is no fight like in the vast majority of the world you know i say to people if you turn off social media, you'll probably be happier. A lot of the times people's mental health improve when they completely unplug.

But the issue is very real and the issue is very much still there. I also say not to unplug too much because then you're not aware of what's going on around. I mean, ignorance is bliss for some people and their day to day life. If they're not surrounded by the chaos, it might just be easier and more beneficial for them personally to unplug. But for people like us who have platforms and who are making people aware of what's happening in culture and the direction as culture is going, I think it's essential for us to continue being as engaged as possible. Yeah, I like the way you said all that. for us to continue being as engaged as possible. Yeah.

I like the way you said all that. When I see what's going on, like in North Korea or China or anytime, like the guy who really freaks me out is the Klaus Schwab guy. Just the open insanity that he babbles from his mouth or Trudeau, what I would see happening in Canada. I'm just like, all right, I just can't turn this off. I still need to keep fucking hammering these guys. They have two bigger voices.

And we have to chip away at them. Canada's a mess. They're so quick to freeze your bank account. It's like, imagine your government just eliminating your access to your own money because they don't like something that you said online that's still happening it was for a while i know it was very prominent during like the truckers movement um but i'm sure it is i don't see that being something that they stop i mean they're always looking for more power not the other way around um what are your thoughts on morgan freeman did you i'm sure you've seen the videos where he's on with Don Lemon or he's on with Mike Wallace from 60 Minutes. Yeah, didn't he say something along the lines of if we want racism to stop existing, we have to stop talking about race?

Yeah. I agree with that to an extent. I don't view talking about race as always a bad thing. I think there's a really just great thing about culture. Like I love talking about German culture, French culture, Spanish culture, Haitian culture, Jamaican culture. Like there's so many different culture aspects that I think it is relevant to still talk about that. So I guess if anything,

I do think that it's great to still refer to ethnicity. And there are certain issues that are more prevalent within certain racial cultures. So it is still relevant. I just wish people stopped categorizing unnecessarily. Like if I was seeing you walking down the street, I'm not going to be like, oh, that white guy or that Armenian guy. I'm just going to be like, oh, that guy. So I think people put race into the conversation unnecessarily. And when it's irrelevant details, I think that's when we need to stop bringing up race.

And this movement has actually done the exact opposite of what you're saying. So I'll never forget. I don't know. A year ago, my wife came home from Whole Foods and she said, I had a black checker. And I've never heard my wife say anything like that. Right. And I go, yeah. black checker and i've never heard my wife say anything like that right and i go yeah and she goes i would have never fucking known i had a black checker five years ago yeah and uh it's i

was walking down the street the other day i don't know it was a year ago and it was it's on a highway with that has no um sidewalks it's kind of dangerous walk i never see anyone on this walk no one does this walk but i do this walk sometimes And I see a guy walking towards me and he's a black guy and he crosses the street. And I almost just to fuck with them, went and crossed the street. You know what I mean? The other side, because in those moments, I'm like, if I would have crossed the street and I would have never thought this five years ago, either, if I would have crossed the street, he may have had the thought in his head, hey, that guy crossed the street because I was black. And so these types of thoughts have not been eradicated. They've been introduced. I almost think this, Xavier, actually, I don't almost think this. I

do think this. I think I'm really onto something here. I think we were really on the verge of eradicating the – I think of racism as a thought, like almost like it's not real. Like you can't actually touch racism. You know what I mean? It's like gender. It's just these ideas that exist in our head. It's not like you – if I saw you, i could touch your face right you're real and i think that we were really close to getting rid of racism as a thought and then like anything the demand came for it so imagine being hungry and then you don't eat and then an hour later you're hungry again and you don't eat and you keep doing that and the desire is going to become more and more and more until maybe you're going to eat something you shouldn't eat i mean there might be i mean you could get so hungry that you cannibalize someone you know there's tons of moments in history like that i think what

happened is is that there's a market for racism the demand is so fucking high because we were eliminating it. The demand from inside our own desire. And it's the people who are racist who are the ones demanding it. I don't think it was an accident, though. I think it was very intentional because race baiting is a massive moneymaker. Victim mentality is a massive moneymaker. BLM alone has made hundreds of millions of dollars that have just sat in people's bank accounts or went to political campaigns. And I'd say a lot of it started with around Obama's presidency. Ben Shapiro actually has a book I had started reading called Bullies, where he talks about how it all started with his bullying campaign. And then

over time, Obama's bullying bullying campaign because everybody can unite against bullying bullying is one of those things that everyone across the aisle hates so it started there but then that umbrella just kept growing to include more and more and more issues to where race became this big thing where everybody had to unite behind it otherwise you were condemned for society now it's the lgbt. Now that's becoming this thing where if you speak out against it, even when it's factual, you're condemned and it all falls back to that. And it's, again, just a way to weaponize our emotions because emotions are what's leading to people's votes. Unfortunately, policy and common sense don't lead to votes anymore. It's

weaponizing emotion. You think that there's a table that people sit around, like how me and you are sitting around, but there's in talking right now, and there's like 10 people around the table and they're like, Hey, it's time to bring the race thing back up again. Absolutely. Absolutely. And the reason why is so that we can, uh, we need the society is getting too much, uh, whatever control of itself. And we need to, we need to put some disturbance in here so we can get more control over society and make more money. You don't want to get me into my conspiracy theorist mode, but I feel like it not only happens here, but I think a lot of it is coming from the globalist agenda. I think there is a lot of just incentive for America to be divided because when we're divided, we're obviously a much weaker country. And you see what's happening with China and TikTok even. I don't know if you know this, but TikTok, as we have it in every other country, especially in America, is banned in China.

They have their own version of TikTok that has like educational things posted on there and things that have to do with traditional Chinese values and things of that nature. What we have here is completely the opposite of what they have in China because they want our youth to be indoctrinated with this craziness. They're intentionally making us more divided. If I go on there and I say I'm not oppressed, my account gets shadow banned. I'm not allowed to post. If I post on TikTok, all of my posts have to be submitted for review. And it tells me, it says that this link can't be copied or this video can't be shared. It's still under review. So TikTok has to approve my videos to be posted. But if I went on there today and said, you know what? I now identify as a woman. I would have a million followers within a day because their algorithm pushes that.

So I think it's very much a globalist agenda to push us to division. And that division starts with race and LGBT. Wow. I'm looking right now. They call it something else there. They call it Dunyan. Yeah. And it's completely different.

Like as far as what goes viral there, completely different from what we have here. Cause take that band there. Yeah. I heard, I don't have any, just from, just from what I see in the media,

I hear that it's like you're rewarded for like animal videos instead of shaking your ass. I heard that there's also a time limit on it. If you're under age, you can't use it more than like 40 minutes a day or something. Yeah. And they designed the apps here to be as addicting as possible. That rapid release. Do you think that maybe you should get off of TikTok then?

I don't really use it. I only use TikTok as an editing app, honestly. I never scroll through it. People always send me TikToks. I don't even look at my DMs on there. It's very much just an editing app. I'm grateful for it because my first video on there was what made me go decently viral and get my start here. But the second I realized just how bad it was, and at the time I didn't know that it was Chinese owned and the whole just grotesque

just politics behind it. But yeah, I't really use tiktok but they already have all my information so there's not even a point for me to delete it yet are you a religious guy i am you are you and did your parents instill that in you not really kind of not really um my mom is christian so she she is very spiritual she doesn't really go to church often more because she doesn't really relate to the churches there. There's no like black churches, quote unquote, there. But I would say most of it has been on my own merit. Is it getting, do you like to go to church on Sundays?

I haven't recently. I haven't since the pandemic, actually. My work schedule doesn't really permit it as much as I would like it to, but it's something I intend to do soon. I want to find a new church soon. And how come? Did you have some moment where – some awakening moment? As far as why I do go or why I haven't went? Yeah, why are you Christian?

Like how does that happen to you? I mean I was always around the environment, but I'd say my relationship with God has just naturally grown over time. There's been a lot of moments in my life where I felt like I wouldn't have been able to get through it or seen the light out of it if it wasn't for God's plan and God's timing. So I've just, I have a very personalized relationship I feel like with him. So I'm taking what you're saying and trying to understand it. Basically, you've had some incredible synchronicities or your path seems the only explanation for your path is that there's a God. That, and I just feel like historically speaking too, I feel like you can trace back in

history just a lot of the different things that have to do with Christianity align with history. I've always said unpopular opinion, but I think science, history, and the Bible align a lot more than people think that it does. And my way just of thinking about it is people, people have to understand when they're reading the Bible that some things are metaphorical and they're like parables and analogies.

And then some things are very literal. And I'm not a scholar by any means on the Bible or anything of that nature, but just the way that I've made sense of it in my head is there are certain things that are metaphorical. This lady right here, do you know who this is? I don't. Her name is olivia craighead and uh have you seen this fucking piece of shit the guy that's on the screen or the article no no sorry i apologize to the guy on the screen that's gonna this fucking article yeah i'm at the bottom there this fucking article has you painted as the number two

as the number two like operative as a fucking fake conservative with no fucking facts yeah it's this is fucking nuts. You know what happened to Gawker and Hulk Hogan? I don't. There's a tech guy, Peter Thiel. Basically, he's the founder of PayPal. Rich as fuck. Gay guy.

Lives in San Francisco. He had a boyfriend. And Gawker outed his boyfriend. And his boyfriend's parents didn't know that he was gay so gawker later released some video of hulk hogan having sex with his best friend's wife and so peter teal said hey i'll get behind you and we'll sue the fuck out of them and hogan won 300 million dollars basically he said these fuck i cannot believe in a way i want to say congratulations you've made it but this lady is saying that you get paid while it does seem she calls you it does seem incredibly

fake and that you're basically make you you're being a race trader and to get paid you know what's this is fucking nuts i remember when this article came out and a lot of these photos were concepts because today's america is a group that i still somewhat work with and um they were working on creating like helping different content creators from gen z create brands so that we could start uniquely reaching different markets so some of us went to them for ideas and some of them came to us about ideas and that nature so some of those shows on there never even launched so she wrote an entire article about concepts. It was trending on Twitter too, particularly the first guy at the top of the picture. His name alone was trending on Twitter because people were just reading us for filth when we hadn't even started posting yet. It's crazy.

It's fucking nuts. That is the classic example, by the way, whenever I talk to anyone. Instead of addressing the issues, that's a form of ad hominem what they did. They're not going to address any of the issues you bring up. Instead, they attack you personally because she's not strong enough to debate you on the issues, so she has to attack you. You're a fucking asshole. What does that have to do with the fact of how much protein you should eat every day you know what i mean if we're debating protein and all of a sudden you're like you're a fucking idiot like what like can you elaborate yeah how did i get into the into the conversation is is um is there a lot of this um is is there a lot of negativity that comes around i couldn't find any um or do people just kind of and and you know your shit so i'm guessing most people want to stay the fuck away from you i get a lot of just ignorance spewed there's quite a few videos of people making talking about either me or just

like different brands um i think one of the ones that stuck in my head the most where this guy duetted my video on tiktok and he start literally starts a video with, I hate you. And he starts just going on about how much he hates me. He hates my guts. He doesn't care if TikTok deletes the video. He just wants it to be known that people like me are the scum of the earth. So I never report my haters. I just let them do their thing.

But I reported that one to TikTok just to see what TikTok would do. They didn't report it or they didn't take the video down. They, in fact, told me that they didn't see anything wrong and that there was nothing that violated their guidelines. But if I say that I believe there's only two genders, I get taken down for hate speech. It's wild, but I do get a lot of hate in my DMs and my comment sections. I just filter it out. It doesn't affect me, my life, my credit score, my health, Like it doesn't affect me, my life, my credit score, my health, anything. So I don't care quite frankly, but yeah, it's, it's a lot of trolling. I just wish people would be more original.

Like if someone sends me a comment that's attacking me and it's pretty aggressive, but there's actually substance to what they're saying. I don't mind replying or having a civil conversation, but the second it just starts turning into them spewing insults at me or saying cliche things like uncle tom coon race traitor pick me that kind of stuff i just i just tune it out they've already lost in my book is is there is there is there a um is there a demographic that does that like it's not chinese kids mostly white liberals um black people too but i and, black people, too. But I and people black people always come to my page and say, oh, all these white people in the comments.

I'm like, first of all, my comment section is actually very diverse. But even if it was like, why is that the first thing you care about? What do you have to say about what I actually said? Why are you concerned about who's green? But yeah, it's I get the most flackack from white liberals and it's really ironic when I'll have a white liberal calling me a boot licker. I'm like, so whose boot am I licking? Is it yours? Like, you don't think that that's a racist in itself. Like you don't think that's narcissistic of you to tell me that I hate myself because you don't, because I don't agree with what you want me to believe.

You're telling me that I hate myself. That's gaslighting. That's like telling me that I have to just completely disagree with anything I've ever believed just because you want me to. I think we already know that they're the real racists. Yeah. Which is, which is so weird.

It's the, it's the posse is riding around looking for the bad guy. But actually, the bad guy is in the posse. Right. Of course, they're never going to find them. And they and they believe their own delusion. I'm sure. Are you a fan of Thomas Sowell? Yes, of course. Have you seen this thing where there's this – I can't remember which book it was, but one of his books he talks about how where black people fucked up is they should have taken the path that like the Chinese and the Japanese and the Indians did where they stayed out of politics. And where Mexicans and blacks fucked up is they got into politics. They thought politics was going to help elevate them. But meanwhile, we see that the average white family in the United States makes $60,000 a year and the average Indian family makes $100,000 a year. I don't know if you've seen that layout of how – of all the different ethnicities and how much money they make.

And white people are like somewhere in the middle. Do you have any thoughts on that? Have you ever heard that before? Do you remember him saying that, that basically politics isn't the way to elevating yourself, that it's through just putting your head down and grinding? At the time period that he was referring to, 100%. I think nowadays it is important for us to get as involved politically as we can because we're pretty far gone. But where I think we messed up was right after the civil rights movement is we should have put our head down and work.

That's what a lot of Black people did do. Like business owners and marriages and everything that's positive in the black community was so much stronger right after the civil rights movement. But at some point people, instead of continuing to want to work and be business owners, I feel like the ability to fail ended up deterring people away from wanting to just work hard. Like the Asian demographics, there's so many other demographics that have been enslaved or been through similar things as what the Black community had went through before achieving freedom. But they all just worked and they just had no excuses, just went to try to provide for

their families. We tried to do it the political route, like Thomas was saying. And because of that, we have put ourselves more into a hole because we ended up aligning with our own oppressors, thinking that we were the state, that they were the saviors essentially. Um, where do you, do you, I'm guessing that you're a workaholic that you like from the second you wake up to the second you go to bed, you found your passion and you just grind and you're having a blast. Of course it's 24 seven. Um, do you think you got that from your mom and dad?

It sounds like that they, they worked their ass off too. Um, I, in some ways, yeah, I will say my parents work very hard. I definitely respect them in that aspect. Um, I think of all, I guess, yeah, I will say my parents work very hard. I definitely respect them in that aspect. I think of all I guess, yeah, you could say that in a lot of ways. Just even in my childhood, I was just addicted to wanting a better life for myself. I remember having conversations with my parents when I was really young saying, like, how do those people have like those big mansions and we live in this little house. And my mom always told me like keeping grades high, keeping straight A's, all of that kind of stuff was going to bring you a better life. I never had a B growing up. Like I had straight A's. I was like in high school, I was

in like 15 different clubs. I was in two sports and working nearly full time. Like I never stopped working because I know how badly I want my situation to be better. And that's always been my mentality. So as things continue to get better in my life, I still am so far from being complacent because I know there's so much further that I can go. So yeah, I would say that it does fall back to my parents. I put you kind of in this category of these, you know, poppies that are just launching these rockets that are launching like a horde do you know who jorge ventura is yeah he's great yeah i put or or al um alex stein although it's a completely different shtick than than yours or jorge's but there's these this group

of just people who are just launching. Do you feel that? Like you were just on August 29th. By the way, I recommend everyone listen to it. You were on the podcast with Dennis Prager. I mean, are you kind of tripping? You're like, holy shit, I'm fucking doing it. Yes, for sure. It's like I try not to be starstruck because I know how corny that is, but it is.

It's like crazy to be in these circles with people like in the last couple of months. I was on a podcast with Dennis Prager. I met Candace Owens and a networking setting, not even there as a fan. Just like all these incredible people I've been able to work with. I actually just filmed a handful of productions with PragerU. So my relationship is growing with them. I actually have that yet. Are those on the net yet? Are those on the net yet? Not yet. They're coming in January and there's

probably a 10 minute version of me explaining my story and upbringing, how I got into this movement that's going to be releasing around January that I'm so excited about. I'm going out there again in just a couple of weeks to film a week's worth of content. So it's crazy. I feel like I am starting to get where I wanted to be, where there's so many incredible, talented creators, especially like Jorge Ventura. He is so talented and just doing great work. So to be in that same movement of people who are rising so quickly, it's an honor. And I appreciate you even putting me in that category oh dude you're a beast you're savage uh and jorge once again uh

just he works his ass off like he has no fucking life his life is just going from event to event bringing bringing bringing the news and he's doing the hard shit like he doesn't just tell you what he's seeing he's showing you yeah i want you. Yeah. I want to get to there. I want to get to where I have enough time just in my day where I can go out and actually be on the street, more filming content, going to more events. But right now it's like, it's cracks of the day. Like I'm building this platform. Just literally I'll take a lunch break and just do everything that I possibly can to build my platform, to reach my followers, to see what's going on. I'll get up at 5 a.m. sometimes to start filming videos on things that I know that are coming on, especially like this election cycle.

It was just nonstop. So it's very humbling to see my hard work really starting to pay off, especially in the last couple of months. I feel like the momentum has been crazy. I mean, tell me about the, the election cycle. Are you tripping? Do you believe in election fraud? Like, like what we saw happen in Arizona, like how did Carrie, how could Carrie Lake lose? Is that just because we live in an echo chamber and we didn't realize the pushback against her? You know, there's a lot, that's such a, that's a whole another conversation. Um, there many elements there. As far as just like, even just nationwide, I feel like first of all, we need to do better and picking better candidates. Some of the candidates that were coming from the Republican side were just terrible. Like I thought Dr. Oz was a terrible candidate, but he was there. much, much better job in reaching Gen Z. We're spending hundreds of millions of GOP grassroot dollars on these consultants who are terrible at what they do. And they waste and burn money on TV ads because they're able to somehow get money back from those instead of actually putting in

the work. So I think there's a lot that could have been done better. Meaning Gen Z doesn't even watch TV. Is that what you're saying? Yeah. Gen Z doesn't watch TV. couldn't even tell you the last time i had i never in my adult life i've had cable because we have netflix and all these different things but there's so many more creative ways that they could be reaching my generation but to go back to your question as far as election fraud i'm very careful when i say those words because i know there's so much to that that i don't understand, but I know that there's a lot of things going on that need to be addressed. I'll put it that way. What happened in Arizona was

inexcusable. I want to see more information come out before I just straight up condemn it as fraud, but all the red flags are looking like fraud of what happened in Maricopa County. It makes no sense that 30% of their machines and their most populated county that was the most crucial county suddenly went down, especially when you have a conflict of interest like Katie Hobbs, who was one of the worst Democrat candidates I've ever seen. She is the secretary of state. So she's overseeing her own election.

Like all of that to me looks like red flags. So I do think that there is an issue of some behavior that looks like fraud. I'm just trying to be careful when I actually full blown condemn it as fraud, because I feel like that's, again, one of those words that get used too lightly to where it's starting to not mean anything. Right. Fair enough. And, and, and I respect that also. There's so many subjects you have done deep dives on that you can hold your ground on or at least dance with people for sure, and that in itself is a whole nother – you're right.

That needs someone – you need to read for fucking 100 hours before you can. Part of me, I guess I feel like I'm just in denial because I have really good friends who vote for candidates. So I'm really against forcing kids to take drugs, any kind of injection I'm against forcing kids to take. And yet people that I love voted for Gavin Newsom. And yet he wants to – my kids can't go to school. Not that I would let them go to school, but my kids can't go to school because people I loved voted for Gavin Newsom. So I just I want I guess I just want to believe that there's fraud, although there probably wasn't any in California, because I just can't believe that more people don't see eye to eye with me or I don't want the LGBTQ flag in front of an elementary school. There was malpractice. There was because there is an election integrity.

Yeah, particularly in Alameda County. There was malpractice. There was because there's an election integrity. Yeah. Particularly in Alameda County. I work with the election integrity committee and there's a lot of things that they saw that technically are not by the book. There were certain things that I wouldn't call fraud, but just malpractice that we're addressing behind the scenes right now. So there are things that just aren't going the way that they should be going as far as poll watching, what's happening at these polls. I think the first thing we need to, the first two things we need to stop doing,

I'm over mail-in ballots. Mail-in ballots need to stop. Like that is such a problematic system that should only be used in cases of emergency that are pre-approved. It is not that hard to get to the polling place. I also think we need to stop with these machines. These Dominion machines are horrifically problematic. There are so many tests that show how these machines misread the ballots that it's not even funny. Like there's so much proof out there on how bad those machines

are. So I like, we need to start hand counting. Like there needs to be some better system established, especially in these more, um, just like swing state areas where we need to be a lot more attentive on what's happening. So I tell people to get involved with their County party. And if there isn't an election integrity committee to get one started, I even, I had a friend who saw voter fraud in minnesota i think it was went was called to dc to testify and they said the voter fraud they said the voter fraud was really bad like really really really really bad and i can believe it yeah people just throwing away ballots that for for anytime anyone voted against uh voted for uh trump now the trump

election i think it was a lot worse i think there was a lot of things that were just point blank fraud to say the election was stolen i can't prove that but to say that there was fraud 100 there were things that were just undeniable like there were so many videos of just i know the videos like the people stuffing the ballot boxes with just stacks of ballots yeah i saw those in real time cell phones that shit was crazy i was still like on like i voted for trump in 2020 but that was like right when i was on the cusp of where i was leaning ideology wise like i got full like i made my decision i was going to get into politics right after i saw what happened with trump because i saw the videos of what was happening especially in states like

arizona and i even had friends in arizona telling me that they were given sharpie markers for their ballots in some of the more republican driven areas and i thought about that i'm like the sharpies don't read on those machines like it says on there that Sharpies cannot be read. Like I had people send me Snapchats and everything, but I didn't have a platform at that time. So I didn't even think to save the picture. But yeah, it was, it was bad. I would say the 2020 election was definitely a lot of fraud going on. Election was more than likely stolen just based on how much fraud happened.

I just can't believe 81 million people voted for Joe Biden. Like there's just no way god i hope you're right god i hope you're right you think he'll run again trump no oh biden he can't he there's no way that man is on on his last leg he is so mentally not there i worked at a nursing home in high school for three years, and I worked particularly right next to the dementia wing. I have seen onset dementia firsthand. When people would go from the West Wing to the East Wing, I saw that transition of them going to the East Wing dementia wing and all the symptoms that Joe Biden has,

where he's just constantly lost. You can see it in his eyes. He has no idea what's going on. The stuttering is so bad. He loses his train of thought. I feel bad for him to an extent. Me too. Because he's just not there. Did you read Laptop from Hell?

Of course. The story that the FBI made Facebook suppress, did you hear about that? No. Yeah, Mark Zuckerberg went on joe rogan oh yes how the fbi came to him to suppress the hunter biden story before the election right before the election are you tripping now that last week cbs news is now saying that the the laptop is real is that is Do you think that that's all calculated too because the Democrats don't want Biden running again so now they're going to let the information out, the truth out, so that they can get someone else?

You know, I've said since the beginning that Joe Biden was a martyr. They pushed some of the worst policies ever and so much of the madness we're seeing now is because they know Joe Biden's only running once. So now they might as well let the truth out there because they already look crazy. They might as well just like let the floodgates open at this point because he's on his tail end. So, yeah, I think it was calculated in the timing.

I just wonder if they're ever going to admit the Ashley Biden diary story was real because the FBI confiscated it. So obviously it is real. His daughter. Yeah. So why is Ashleyiden as a little girl writing about the inappropriate shower she would have with her father but that's again one of those things you get deplatformed if you mention it's already been confirmed that the diary was real but will the news talk about it absolutely not um are you when do you think you get invited to Tucker?

I'm hoping soon. It's coming, baby. It's coming. He and I went viral together on The Shade Room when we called out Balenciaga. That absolutely blew up. That was the third time The Shade Room has posted me. That's a very, for people who don't know, that's an urban news site, basically. And the last few times I was on there there i got read for absolute filth but this time i had democrats and republicans agreeing with me

so i was happy about that i'm trying i'm trying to click uh shade room wow 27 million followers yeah they blocked me though oh they did yeah the first time they posted me i was defending myself in the comments and they blocked me but they've posted me two times since then but yeah this if you want to see what's going on especially in black or urban culture the shade room is where you got to go this is like one of the most powerful new sites in urban and young culture wow i've never even heard of this yeah like what tmz used to be like in the 90s like breaking all the store the 2000s breaking all the stories like tmz is still there but the shade room is where the real stories happen at

this point how how's uh how's kanye doing you think does he have any friends he has friends i don't think he has the best friends around him um you know i i want him to succeed i mean he has succeeded i want him to be i want him to be happy he doesn't seem happy i don't think he's happy um i i'm honestly really concerned for him especially with some of his new association um I respected some of the things that he's done recently, but him hanging out with Nick Fuentes, who I'm always hesitant to even say his name on a platform. and out there and has a huge following. I very rarely use the terminology of white nationalists or neo-Nazi, anything like that. But if that applies to anyone, it's Nick Fuentes. And seeing Kanye hang out with him is very frightening to me. I wonder how much Kanye actually knows about him. Kanye actually took Nick with him to Mar-a-Lago to speak with Trump, and Trump didn't know that Nick was there.

And that ended up being a huge dispute and Kanye getting kicked out. So I am getting to the point where I'm concerned. And the fact that Kanye wants to run for 2024 presidency, he has way too many issues in his personal and professional life going on right now for him to do that. Is he on Instagram? Oh, no, he's banned i found his secret instagram but no he he is banned from every mainstream platform his bank account got banned he's on a no flight list like he's he's like way out there oh yeah it says i mean google has him as an american white supremacist yeah there's few people I use that term for very few.

Oh, he's only, he's only 24 years old. Yeah. His following is like insane though. Like absolutely insane. Like they will come at you in the most aggressive pack. He has his own platform that he uses where he talks about all of this hateful rhetoric,

but he's bad news. And what's the story? is kanye associated with him no idea i saw i almost threw my phone at the wall when i saw that they were trending together on twitter um i i i don't know i have no idea what's going on there it makes no sense to me i just saw that he took nick with him to a dinner tried to take Nick with him to a dinner at Trump's house. What about this? Let me go here with this. What about Jesus hung out with the sinners, right? Maybe it's a horrible political move for, I don't know, anyone to hang out with Nick Fuentes.

But Kanye has not shied away from his love for Christ. I mean, it's like, I see it every day, you know? What's wrong with him hanging out with bad people and trying to spread the good word to them, spread the Bible to them, spread love to them, spread the word of Jesus to them? Shouldn't the best people be hanging out with the worst people? I would bet so much money that Kanye is being influenced by Nick a lot more than Nick is

being influenced by Kanye. And I very much think that Kanye is being manipulated by this new association that he has. I don't think he knows the damage that is potential to be done by his association with them and i feel like the reason that kanye has done that is because he's been so publicly slaughtered lately that he was looking for any community that was willing to embrace him but i i do and i i hate to say this about someone as powerful as kind of because i really look up to kan, especially being from Chicago.

I always loved Kanye. I think he is a pawn right now. I think he's trying to go hard. You're breaking my heart, Xavier. It's breaking mine. I feel like he was on the right path because he and Candace Owens have been friends for years. People act like that's a new friendship. Kanye designed the font and the logo for Blacksit foundation. A lot of people don't even

know that. And I actually learned this from Candace personally, just a few weeks ago. This is not a public story. So I hope she's okay with me saying this, but Kanye was the first person to donate to Blexit. Like Kanye has been friends with her for a long time. So that influence I thought was really strong. And them being publicly having their friendship out there, I thought Kanye was doing great work. His comments about the Jewish community got very messy. I feel like his message got very overshadowed by his poor choice in wording on what he was trying to say, got very just jumbled into a bunch of hateful rhetoric but now that he is with this new group

with nick fuentes like i don't know how that happened i don't know how he met nick i don't want to know i'm like almost afraid to even look into it because that is such a bad combination you think so what what did this guy nick fu, do that made him a white supremacist? It's just the thing. Every video I've ever seen of him is him saying something hateful towards black people or hateful towards some demographic. His. OK, so you've seen it. You've seen it. Yeah, I've seen. Not just it's just not just Google saying it. You've seen it. Yeah, I've made my own judgment because I it was again when when I first got into into the movement he was one of the first people that i was like yeah this is not what i want to be when i was looking at different creators in the right wing space because i had

never really paid attention to any conservative commentators or influencers i didn't even know this movement was as established as it was when i got into the movement like it was kind of a fluke that i even found the movement the way i did um that i'm grateful for now but when i started finding like different right-wing creators and i saw that he was so taboo, I was like, well, what are people saying? Or what is he saying? That's so bad. I'm like, okay. Yeah, it is actually that bad. Um, like he's way out there. Like he thinks that black people are just these animalistic people and swears that like black people have no intellect, is basically what he says, but in much more aggressive verbiage. He thinks they're inferior.

Very much so. And a lot of times people are like, well, how can he be racist if he's hanging out with Kanye? Because I think he has ill intentions. Or I think he sees Kanye as a way to elevate himself and develop his own platform because i can only imagine how much more money he has made just from having his name trend with kanye because now people are signing up for his his platform just to see what it's all about yeah i would have never heard of him if he hadn't hung out with kanye yeah a lot of people want it i i don't speak on him on my platform largely because his fan base is crazy i said all i said about him recently was um someone had said that he should that nick should

be on timcast and i just replied no and i have received so much hate and people calling me a liberal and like insulting me and trying to read me for filth because I don't support Nick Fuentes there. That group is extreme, like very extreme. Does he get, is he anti-Semitic too? Does he hate Jews too? I don't know his views on Jewish people. I'd assume so.

I would be very shocked if he wasn't, but I've never looked into that. It's so, it's so hard to find anything that's real just when you punch it into Google now. Yeah. Of course, I just put in Nick Fuente's Jews and it says GOP Jewish coalition condemns Ye and Nick.

Yeah, I'm assuming he said some anti-Semitic things. I know a lot of his fan base and he has creators that are under his platform that are a little tiny bit softer than him or i'd say they're quite most of them are quite a bit softer than him but they're still very aggressive and i know a lot of them spew a lot of anti-semitic rhetoric um very anti-black rhetoric one of his creators who is thank god they have that right i'm so glad the white supremacists hate jews too because it would suck if it was just blacks or just Jews.

It's kind of cool. Which is weird to me that black and Jewish people tend to have this long historical feud, which I don't understand. We've dealt with a lot of the same issues and enemies. So I feel like there should be more alliance there than anything. But I know one of his creators has a video that went viral on Twitter where he's talking about how the best thing that ever happened to MLK was his assassination. And he went into his whole elaboration on that. And I'm just like, I can't. I can't.

People like that give the right wing such a bad name. And that's why it frustrates me when a liberal will troll me. They'll call me this far right extremist. But then the far right extremists don't like me either. So it's like I'm definitely not either of those. I feel like I'm a very sane person that just leans right. What about Denzel? Do you have any thoughts on Denzel?

I don't really know his political ideology. He's a great actor. That's all I really know about him. He said some pretty incredible shit too along the lines of Morgan Freeman. He's not he's not playing the game. Sam, have you heard Lil Wayne story? Have you heard Lil Wayne speak on it? Yes, I have heard Lil Wayne speak on it.

He's a big fan of Trump. A lot of rappers are big fans of Trump behind the scenes. They just don't say it publicly. Lil Wayne doesn't give a fuck. Yeah. Yeah. And you've heard his story about the white cop who saved his life yeah denzel um check out some of the stuff that he said he is like it's it's

kind of amazing that him and morgan freeman um they're they're i guess they're uncancellable because they still they still rock the house in fucking hollywood but they're not playing the game everybody's uncancellable it's just not everybody has the courage to do it oh it's like you can't be canceled if you don't accept that you're canceled um were you suspect of covid from day one i did think it was about to be an apocalypse. I was really scared. Because I'm a germaphobe in the first place. So before mask mandates and all that stuff happened, the second, before COVID really even got announced, I had already bought masks and gloves.

I had just, I saw like. You're such a fucking healthy man. Look at you. Look at your skin and your shoulders and you're all yoked and shit. How can you be scared of COVID? Well, I didn't know. Okay, hear me out.

I heard about COVID before it got announced. I remember showing my friends at work, like, you see this happening in China? Because I found some obscure video where people were just dying in the streets. And I am already just a paranoid person. Everybody was freaking out they didn't have hand sanitizer. I already had a bucket of it at home. I didn't even need to buy any. I was already stock a paranoid person. Like everybody was freaking out. They didn't have hand sanitizer, already had a bucket of it at home. Like I didn't even need to buy any. I was, I was already stocked for this. Um, especially cause the Ebola outbreak, that's a whole nother story, but I predicted the Ebola outbreak for like two years. Like I just knew what was going to happen and it happened.

Um, but that's a side story. But yeah, I was, I just saw people were dying abruptly. I thought people were getting this, not knowing they were having it, dying on the street. So I didn't know. Once the information started coming out and once they started censoring the information is when I started to get skeptical. By the time the vaccine had rolled out,

I already wasn't trusting anybody. But in the very beginning where people were just dying in China, apparently, which never happened in the United States where people were just walking around and dying. But I was seeing those videos come from China. All I know, those could have been TV shows. But I was scared in the beginning. But I very quickly was over it. I'd say by – it's hard to remember the timeline.

But I'd say probably like May I was done I was done with the COVID mess and I was still a liberal at that time is he on truth social me uh yes at Xavier uh clock cutter they canceled Bill Cosby and hard as soon as he started telling black folks that they had to take they had to take of themselves had to take of themselves, had to take care of themselves. Oh, what do you mean? Bill Cosby got canceled for fucking drugging women. What the fuck are you talking about?

Bill had that come. Poor Bill. I remember growing up. Isn't it a trip you think of? I guess maybe you're too young for this but there was a time when like in the u.s we had michael jordan michael jackson and the cosbys and no one ever talked about them being black like i watched bill cosby every thursday night at 8 p.m with my family for fucking however many years it was on 10 years and my family never once discussed that that was a

black family no one ever told the greatest fucking superstar that ever lived was fucking michael jackson in my era no one ever talked about him being white or black same with uh michael jordan there were it's so interesting that now it's like reared its head like this i i it's just so fucking weird and that's why i have go ahead oh sorry i was gonna say we used to have such positive representation of the Black family unit in the media. Like we had Family Matters. We had the Bill Cosby show. We had In Living Color.

We had all these different shows that positively represented Black people, Black excellence, essence, all of that. But now when we see Black people in the media, first of all, everybody is viewed only as Black. Like you said, there used to not be these labels on people. But now the people who are being in the forefront are like Cardi B, who admits on video to drugging and robbing men before she got her fame you have a lizzo in a million dollar outfit getting awards phenomenon morbidly obese saying she's oppressed it's like and then what's bad about them is they advocate for black people to live like them knowing that if black people

have the lifestyles that they have they're either going to die or end up in jail you are going to die prematurely for sure you will die 100 prematurely if you live those lifestyles yeah that confidence won't stop lizzo's blood from clotting and she needs to stop telling people that that lifestyle is acceptable or that she's oppressed. Like you're not oppressed. You are glorified. And if anything, you're overfed in both metaphorical and literal sense. So she needs to just stop. Man, I do think that our number one problem today beyond any of the stuff that we've talked about, a hundred percent hands down is a chronic disease, which is, which is kind of funny because we're, we're,

we're, we're trying to refine all of these things acting like they matter COVID or racism or sexism, but really, really, I think at the root of all of it is, is just mass chronic disease and fear. I think that's where all the transgender shit comes from too.

I don't, I think that if you poison a child with enough sugar at a young age, it just turns them fucking, it retards their growth, retards their brain development, retards their physical hormonal development. Well, my theory on that is that it all goes back to big pharma because these pushing mental illness, whether it's anxiety, depression, gender dysphoria, all this madness is making people more and more dependent on these drugs. And if you even look at the way that if a kid, you have a eight-year-old boy who's hyper and likes to play with trucks. And when he's doing his homework,

he doesn't want to do his homework. He wants to go play video games. That's not necessarily a sign that something's wrong with him, but they drug him up and say, I don't know which one it is, ADHD or ADD. Yes, some people legitimately have those, but there are so many people who get medicated now as young children just because they're just regular young children. Children are naturally hyper. If you give children sugar, they're going to not want to do homework. They want to run outside, but instead they're drugging these kids. It all goes back to wanting to beat these kids dependent from day one on big pharma because that is a multibillion dollar industry. And they don't give a fuck about kids. Never have.

You think you're going to have kids? Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm single. Oh, do you have time for a girlfriend? I can make time, but right now, not really. Yeah. I'm working like 80 hours.

Is dating scary? I wouldn't say it's scary. I just have to be a bit more hesitant, especially because I do have some more higher profile connections. And there are people who will try to either take advantage of that or try to get information on people um i'd say oh shit like like a left-wing project project veritas yeah like i've had people just like send me some dms that were suspect like a couple dms back and forth and then all of a sudden it's like so what do you know about this it's like stop um i'd say if anything just being in the Bay area as a conservative is inconvenient dating wise, it's so hard to find a non-liberal or even a conservative who can deal with the madness of

my platform and what comes with that. It's kind of baggage, but I'm not worried about it. I got time. Yeah. You have tons of time. And are and, and, and are you training? How often are you training? Even though you're, how often are you training? I'm going like five days a week now. Yeah. I was going to CrossFit, um, probably four or five days a week, but I had to step back from CrossFit just because of my schedule. So now I'm just going to a regular gym in the time being until my schedule was a little more dense. But yeah, I've say in the last month, I've been taking it really seriously because I've always wanted to bulk. But bulking used to be like eat one ginormous meal and I wouldn't want to eat for three days. But I finally have gotten a rhythm where I eat just a little bit like every so often throughout the day. And my calories are probably double or triple what they were when I was doing my regular diet. So it's been helping a lot. Do all those people work out? Does Candice work out?

Did you think Will Willett works out? Do you think, uh, I don't think Dennis needs to work out. So why doesn't someone get Dennis work at CrossFit membership? I'll talk Dennis into it when I finally meet him in person. I'm hoping I meet him when I'm there in a couple of weeks. Um, but Candice works out a lot. Candice is really athletic. I'd say a lot of conservatives are. And you know what's funny? When I do my hashtags to grow my platform, some of the hashtags I'll put are like fitness,

or I always put hashtag CrossFit or MMA or UFC. Because the people who have the discipline of training and being consistent often have better common sense. They look into things more and they're much more analytical. And I feel like a lot of conservatives or just right-wing leaning people tend to be more successful and usually more successful people have the mindset of successful people. So I reach a lot of my following through those hashtags because I never wanted to be an echo chamber platform where everyone who follows me only follows me because they follow every other political person. There's a lot of like mainstream celebrities and athletes who follow me or love my content. And I've been able to reach them because I purpose, I purposely seek

out creators or people who are in the fitness industry, personal accountability and personal responsibility. Yeah. It's true. No victim mentality. Yeah, it's that cohort that knows that, you know, like, yeah, I need to work hard on myself. Isn't that fascinating that that makes it conservative?

Right. All right, brother. Thank you so much. Great pleasure meeting you. I will be looking out for your PragerU content that will be coming out very shortly. And I'd love to have you back on again in January or February and talk about that experience. Absolutely. I'll send you a link when it's out.

Thank you for having me. Awesome, dude. And you have my phone number. Text me anytime. No one can ever bug me. I always love hearing from the guests. Sounds good. Thank you again.

Yep, dude. Ciao. love hearing from the guests sounds good thank you again yep dude ciao uh i need to get xavier and invest in yourself shirt and invest in yourself shirt yours yourself i don't get it uh travis hi candace is fire. She is. Single. Yeah, he's single. There you go. Sorry, I should have popped that up. I could have talked to him for a whole fucking hour more. Could have talked to him. He's gone three hours.

I have to pee. Go figure. Okay. Let's see. Who do we have on tomorrow? Good show. That blew by. Holy cow, that blew by.

Who do we have on tomorrow? Good show. That blew by. Holy cow, that blew by. Who do we have on tomorrow? Oh, shit. We have the rapper Hocus on. Oh, that's tomorrow night. Oh, that's cool. Okay. Okay. We have this guy coming on named Andy Holmes,

who's the, maybe the leading expert on the planet and tainted supplements. I don't know if we have a date for it yet. Oh, sorry. I forgot to ask him this. Trump or DeSantis 2024. I'm so sorry.

Sunil. Fuck. My bad. Damn it. Heidi. Is he says, damn, I didn't see any of these is he single I'm so sorry guys what a douche I am oh you did it twice oh my goodness

so sorry what a fuck up oh no there's more Jeremy world someone tell him about my story oh yeah the people want to know if he's single i the thing i didn't have anyone with me today kayla was on some training uh mission and i don't know where suza suza's probably working his day job crossfit livermore uh yeah so 6 p.m tomorrow with the rapper Hocus. That'll be fun. All right. I hit a pole in my car backing up. And I have to take it to the auto body shop to see if I can get it fixed.

I can't believe it. I was parked under an awning at a restaurant. And there was one of those thin poles i think i told you guys and i turned the wheel oh my camera's touching the top of my monitor now and anyway i turned the wheel and i fucking hit the pole with the front of my car i pride myself on being such a great driver okay okay fine fine okay bye no stories fine see you guys later bye