The Sevan Podcast - #835 - Adam Kramer | Slangs' $10,000,000 a year in the streets at 15 years old

Episode Date: March 13, 2023

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6.02, turn on the coffee maker. 6.31, drying my left armpit. 6.32, drying. And today I was like, this looks off. I look like I'm off by a minute or two. It's like 10 o'clock here. I've been pumping already. Yeah?

What time do you get up? It kind of depends what I do the day before, but today I woke up around 5. Woo! Woo! Coffee. I had cold coffee sitting next to my bed stand today. From the night before? From the night before.

Dude, that's hardcore. I appreciate that. I respect that. Straight to the gym dry cleaners a bunch of phone calls a little bit of barbershop meeting okay what do you get dry cleaned and what were you doing at the barbershop these are two stories that i question so i i have some uh i'm wild with my clothes, man. So I had grease on my dress shirts. Like, man, I hope this comes out.

And why do you have dress shirts? Who do you see with dress shirts? Like meeting with people from the state, like being like, like politicians and. Politicians, high level funders. Okay. You know, I got to play the part. So I got lucky like a year ago lululemon the local lululemon which i i get made fun of sometimes for this but they asked me to be an ambassador

so they gave me love it they gave me a bunch of dress clothes uh-huh i got all these expensive dress clothes like stuff with collars like stuff with collars and belt loops. I stained them up. I got to take them to the dry cleaner. Then the barber shop, I just randomly stop in once or twice a week. I just kind of hang out, meet people, the barber shop. The barbers, they're pretty engaged with some of our boys so the boys will stop in the barbershop get their hair cut and they'll act you know a little informer informal uh mentoring going on so getting little updates there's this there's this guy i have on

the show on fridays i do a ufc show and he's a former uf UFC welterweight and his name is um uh Darian Weeks black dude and he and he owns a barber shop also it's called I think it's called like the weekly cut kind of like a playoff of his name but also like hey come in here every week and I thought that was kind of cool because you know like for me my my lifestyle around the barber is is like wait as long as possible till that shit's just so long that I look like a muppet and then go in and cut it but For me, my lifestyle around the barber is wait as long as possible until that shit's just so long that I look like a Muppet and then go in and cut it. But for some people, it's like part of their...

Every week. Yeah, it's like part of their routine. It's where they go to hang out. They know people. They get tightened up. And I just thought that was cool. It's just like a social or cultural thing that I'm completely fucking oblivious to. Yeah, I mean, I cut my own hair. There's not much to it. just like a a social or cultural thing that i'm completely fucking oblivious to yeah i mean i cut

my own hair i there's not much to it i can't can't justify wasting 50 bucks a week on a shape up um you know i don't uh it's funny um i always brag on this show that i don't believe i don't believe in in gender roles like do whatever the fuck you want you want to wear a pink dress and carry a chainsaw like i don't give a shit but whenever i hear about cutting your own hair i do put that in my things that i don't do that i wish i did do that i think would make me i don't know if a man is the right word but at least more of an independent human being it's one of the things i'm most embarrassed about that i've never just taken a shaver to my head and cut my hair it seems like just like a fundamental like well i gotta get one under my belt before i die i mean my forehead gets bigger every day every time you cut it it's like there's no like my hairline is back here and then when it grows it grows like this but nothing grows right here well you have

you have there's a shadow there there's a five o'clock shadow there a little bit it's like this, but nothing grows right here. Well, there's a shadow there. There's a 5 o'clock shadow there a little bit. It's like this spot right here. I get little kids that I coach. I'll be sitting down, and they'll walk up and just rub this part of my head. Oh, that's nice. I cut mine. I look peaky, blinder, but it saved a lot of cash.

Look, you have the same shirt in your uh profile picture that i'm wearing today i love it not you not you i need to send you a shirt yeah i got shirts we could send you too i'd love to send you a shirt um do you know adam do you know how you popped on my radar yeah from mr waddell old jimmy waddell? Old Jimmy Waddell. Yeah. How do you know him? So, 2018, I got an invite to the MDL at CF headquarters. Yeah. It's a CrossFit level one seminar, but for doctors only. Well, they invited a bunch of nonprofits out there too. Okay.

Well, they invited a bunch of nonprofits out there, too. Okay. So I'm up in there, you know, and I walk through the back door and I seen two dudes with flannel shirts and jeans. And I want to know who those dudes are. You know, you recognize if your shirt's not tucked in what that means? Yeah. I mean, it means you got something in the waistband you don't want anyone to see right and and plus everyone else you know besides you know greg glassman was dressed like a crossfitter from what i could see yeah and uh i was with a guy who was a colonel in delta

force and he had on khakis with a plaid shirt tucked into his belt with dress shoes so he didn't fit the part and uh so we got introduced to martoon and jim waddell and i couldn't leave their side all weekend they were like my two guys and then i i came back home and i told uh the founder of green beret project who was a green Beret, and he's currently an FBI agent. I'm like, you know, there's this super dynamic guy, Jim, former DA. I'm like, you got to meet him. So I connect those two over the phone. Next thing you know, our founders, like that guy's our new executive director.

Oh, shit. He's like, no, man, that guy's awesome and i just identified it right away over the phone we talked for like two hours and we recruited him to be the executive director of greenberry project yeah he's a special guy yeah so since 2018 i've probably you know i've been and spent hours and hours on the phone i've only been in his presence like three or four times, but I've spent countless hours over the phone with him. He's so enjoyable. He's so I've been fortunate to hang out with him a lot. And he's so enjoyable.

Great sense of humor. A crazy well read. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, the kind of guy that like you could you would want as a father or a brother-in-law or like immediately you kind of like huh how could i get this guy in my family yeah he's like uh he's like the fun uncle um are you are you a christian adam yes were you always a christian uh no. When did that happen?

Oh, man. Three months into a prison sentence. Well, I wasn't sentenced yet. The feds had said they threw out some numbers that were equal to life. Meaning you would be behind bars equal to – you'd die in there by the numbers were so big? Okay. What they do is, you know, I had this, I had a large marijuana charge, large cocaine charge of money laundering. And that was just the beginning.

They probably could have unfolded many more charges. And they just say, hey, man, you're going to get what we call continuing career enterprise, which is automatic life in prison. And I knew that was, you know i knew somehow my in my heart my brain that that just wasn't going to happen you know but i knew it was a large bargaining chip on their end and uh but you know i was angry i was angry at the inmates angry friends angry at the ceos i was angry at people i couldn't even remember why i was how old were you 27 when that happened that was back in uh 2007 you know so i'm sitting in this in this

holdover prison waiting to get sentenced and there's like you know i'm in an area where we had a lot of dudes from philly jersey city and and New York City and then went to Delaware, like, you know, large scale criminal operation type dudes. And I remember this one dude, he was a blood and he was a blood gang member. And he came up to me and he's like, he's like, hey, man, I'm praying for you. And I was like, hey, man, I'm not scared. White boy, say that again we're gonna go lock in that cell you know and i meant it and uh you know so a couple days went by and this other dude that didn't really know him he came up to me and he was like hey kramer i'm praying for you

and this dude would have i mean he would have mopped the floor with me and i'd slammed his bible on the floor oh he handed you a bible well it was sitting like it was on the table he was sitting down i was standing up and he had a bible next to him and i slapped his bible on the floor i was just testing him like like do something you know you just told me you're praying for me i knocked your bible on the floor what do you you going to do? He just laughed. And he was like, you can't stop me for praying for you back in my prison cell. And then I went back to my prison cell and all my criminal ways of thinking. I'm like, how can I be mad at a guy who's just said he's praying for me? And both these dudes were facing like a significant like decades in jail for their for their crimes.

And they were waiting for they were waiting for trial, too. Right. And it bothered me a lot that how like even keel he was that that made me angry, too. And, you know, watching all the gangbangers, watching all, you know, dudes from other religions, you know, you're on the block with them 24 hours a day besides when you lock in at nighttime. And you just you just see the the the chaotic behaviors and they're they're like angry, you know, and then they're even and then they're all their emotions are all over the place. And not all the Christians, but most of these Christian dudes on the block, it just bothered me how they could handle different situations. And I was with them for like – I mean, so that went on for like three or four months, and then I went – Sorry, just for a placement. This isn't the prison yet. This is still like county jail you're in? So it was a county jail that had a contract with the federal government to house 150 federal inmates.

And how long were you in – you were in there during the court case? How long was that? Three years. Before you switched to another prison? Yeah. Holy fuck. Okay, sorry. another prison? Yeah. Holy fuck. Okay, sorry. Okay, go on.

No grass. Like, the only thing you could see was the sky. You couldn't, when you went to the yard, they had, you know, metal walls where you couldn't see outside. You could just see the sky. So you didn't see the horizon for three years? No. sky. So you didn't see the horizon for three years? No. Every once in a while I could see an airplane through like a tiny prison window I had. So like I started going down to the church service, but I literally was just going down there to meet my co-defendant who was on different

blocks so we could talk about our case and what was going on and who, you know, who was telling and who was, you know, ready to testify against us. And one day this pastor was in there and he was like, he was like, oh, I did 18 years in prison. And, you know, he was talking about, you know, smoking crack and prostitutes and his robberies. And I'm like, man, this guy looks put together though, you know? So that like was weighing in my heart. And then I signed up for NAA, go see the chaplain. I signed up to go see this pastor just to get off the block. Cause I was just bored.

And this pastor dude was like, love you, man. And I'll be like, F f you you don't even know me you know like a child you would say that to him right to his face every monday i will go back and and just cuss him out cuss him out for like two months trying to take him like just testing him and man finally i'm like what's with you man you're you're breaking me down like you're breaking me down you're making me mad through the whole week and you don't even know that you're making me mad. And that's like, to me, I'm like, he's getting me twice. And, uh, and finally it just broke.

I'm like, man, what do I do? And he said, read, you know, he's giving me this old like Baptist adage. He's like, read John chapter three. And I'm like, I'm going to read John chapter three and I'm going to read the whole freaking New Testament, you know, just to prove you wrong. And man, I was at, I mean, it was like a miracle. I was reading through the New Testament in my prison cell and I could just feel like it was making me calm. And then I'd put the Bible down. I'd go out on the prison block and I'd be like, you know, I'd be trying to do, you know, I'd be working out, playing P-knuckle, playing Scrabble.

And it was just driving me like my, I just couldn't settle on my inside. So I'm like, in my head, I'm like, you know what? All I know is that's making me feel all right. I don't really understand what I'm reading yet. And I'm just going to keep studying it and try to understand it. And so 2008, I was, you know, facing the worst external circumstances of my life, but I never felt more at peace. So I'm like, whatever, I'm going to go with this. And if I go to jail for prison forever long, that's just what it's going to be. I can't keep, I can't keep thinking about it. You know, I'm going to have like a freaking anxiety attack or heart attack or something. And, uh, was there one moment in time where you just accepted it?

I don't, you know, people ask that all the time. I think it was just like a lot of events just kind of kept happening over the course of a few months. And it just kind of slowly changed. And even like at one point, my co-defendant and I were back on the block together. And he went in my cell and found my Bible and ran out on the block. He's like, what's this? What's this? He's like, what are you doing? And I'm like, Hey man, he's like hustling coffee on the block, trying to hustle coffee with them and, and barter. And I'm like, dude,

like we were doing that on the street. I'm not going to sit in this jail and hustle coffee. He wanted to continue the business inside. Yeah. Yeah. He was just the, he was running this gambling racket. And I'm just like, dude, I can't be a part of it right now. Just can't do it. the he was running this gambling racket and i'm just like dude i can't be a part of it right now just can't do it uh yeah so you know that went on for like three years and uh man i just asked all the questions i could you know i didn't want to be some guy like

oh i'm just jailhouse religion type of thing you know it would be no like a fake you know even my old man i made up with my dad and he came to visit me and I'm like, Hey, Hey man, I'm reading the Bible. He was like, whatever. He was like, you'll do anything to keep your mind occupied. I know you you're, you're bored and you're just reading the only thing that you have in front of you. And I'm like, yeah, that might be the case, but it's making me feel good. And he said, we'll see when you get out, we'll see. And I'm like, you know, you know, that's fair enough because he went through years of turmoil, you know,

never knowing if he was going to get a call saying, Oh, your son's dead. You know? And he got many a cause from, uh, I mean, I was arrested 11 times just in Delaware alone with 29 charges. Crazy. I got multiple charges of Pennsylvania. You know, I live in an area where I can be in New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Maryland within 20 minutes. So I got arrested in all those States.

And, uh, yeah, I mean, that's wild times. Do you, do you remember when you're like, wow,

I'm a Christian when you identify with it like that? I think it was like early in 2008. And, and, and when you say like, wow, I'm a Christian, when you identify with it like that? I think it was like early in 2008. And when you say that, does that mean that you're going to practice the tenets? Hey, Manders, love God with all your heart, soul, and mind, and love people as you love yourself. And on those two commandments, all the other ten commandments hang. I mean, that's the New Testament, what Jesus teaches in the Bible. Would you say those are values? Yeah, I mean, there's another verse that says that they really taught me.

It helped me a lot. You got to understand, I lived a criminal life from the ages, even from even a younger age. You know, there's a lot of crime being done. And then when I was 15 is when I really started taking off. So from 15 to 27, I'm committing crime every day. And that's all I knew, you know, is how to commit crime and make money. And we weren't too bad at it besides our addictions on the side. But it said love, joy, peace, patience, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness. And meekness means like being able to negotiate in a calm manner and temperance, which is self-control. But at the end of those nine, it says against these, there is no law.

And I'm like, boom, because I don't like, even though I'm a Christian, I'm like, if you let me out of this jail right now, I'm going straight to the bar. I'm drinking. I'm probably going to get some lines of coke and some women. Like, that's how I feel in my heart. And I don't care what you say. Yeah, I believe in this, but I still feel like doing this. Sure.

So, so when I, you know, love, joy, peace, patience, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance against these is no such law. I'm like, okay, so I need to figure out how to live like this. And then I don't have to worry about breaking the law because I don't know how to live at this point, even though I got, you know, I had a college degree. It didn't matter. I, you know, that college degree was for a coverup and, you know, we were paying for other kids, college tuitions to go to college, to sell you know because what's 60 70 g's a year if you're making a couple hundred for us on the back end but uh you you were in this 15 to 20 in in this uh 12 year run you you also went to college while you were running this business

this drug business i saw the uh the post to make it clear I wasn't making $10 million when I was 15. It more so started small. I was making like $500 or $1,000 a week. And I was on my way to D1 full-ride baseball. And I was a wrestler and a football player to stay in shape, to be a good catcher on the on the baseball diamond and selling drugs was just like it was a whole bunch of boys that didn't have dads growing up in a blue collar neighborhood. That's who we were. You know, bricklayers, plumbers, you name it, any type of construction we'd work to cover up, meet other drug dealers. of construction we'd work to cover up meet other drug dealers you know the d1 thing went out the window because i was getting arrested and my grades weren't that great and i went to the local community college majored in sports mat i majored in construction management and they dropped the

major and then i i switched one day they're like you need a new major and i'm like looking down the list uh sports management boom i'll do that that was like you know i don't know if anyone listened or took a sports management degree but it didn't i didn't learn anything that's exactly what i did too after like five years is is a undergrad then i started just looking like hey how how am i going to get out of here yeah i started just looking for stuff where my classes lined up. Hey, how long – did you ever carry a gun? Occasionally. How long did you deal before you carried a gun?

Was it years? So I was – honestly, I was scared to carry a gun because I'm the type of guy that's like, hey, if I have a spoon, I'm going to eat some soup. Right. Right. And I knew that about myself, right right and i knew that about myself and uh the other guys knew that about me so like if we walked into a dangerous deal it'd be like okay we might need to you know we're gonna need to strap up on this one but like i didn't just carry a gun just to carry a gun because i because i drank a lot and i would black out and do you know i would fight

and uh i knew if i was blacked out and i got in a fight there'd be there i'd no doubt my mind i'd get that thing out and i'd use it right so i never i'd never tried to carry like it wasn't a normal practice for me i was kind of nervous was it just for when you carry a gun? Did you ever carry them into marijuana deals or just Coke deals? I always thought that there was kind of like a thing there. Cause you know what I mean? Like I used to sell a lot of weed and then, but none of the weed dealers really carried guns, but you knew that the Coke dealers carried guns and shit.

We always got a little weird. Like the one I hear that I didn't know that you dealt Coke either. That shit. Cause those people start to get a little crazy. Little hairy. And we, so we, we didn't know that you dealt coke either. That shit, because those people start to get a little crazy. Little hairy. And we so we we didn't deal coke in a large amount. We did get like two or three kilos at a time. But the thing of it is most of the coke and the good coke around here is coming from like Dominicans up in New York.

Right. You know, we never dealt with there's a there's a heavy Mexican cartel thing around here. Never tried to deal with them. And we were dealing with these Dominicans and, and you know, they're, they were more dangerous, but we use cocaine more as a bartering tool with rich white people. What do you mean? What do you mean? Like what, give me an example. Hey man, you know, guys that own dealerships got cars. We got good product guys that own restaurants. Hey, man, you know what they're about.

Right. We can get in the door free the club. We can get free cars. So it was more of a bartering thing for us because, you know, we were getting really good blow. Right. And it was cooking back and I. People were overdosing, you know, it's like because we were still young. Right. And you still got kids in college. And once that happened a couple of times, I'm like, this is scary, man. Like we're making so much damn money off the weed. Why don't we just, you know. Like there was even a period of gap in time when I was like 2021, the feds were on us and I stopped dealing. I graduated college. I legit tried to go get a real job and they offered me, it was at a single way baseball organization under the Kansas city Royals. And they offered me like 35 grand a year. And I'm like, what? 35 grand a

year. I'm making that in like a couple of months, less than a couple of months. So that's when I was like, you know what? I'm going to stop playing the fence here. Meaning I'm going to like, you know, for a long time, I was like a student and a drug dealer. Right. And that's, and then I was like, okay, I'm either going to be in the workforce or I'm going to be a drug dealer right and that's and then i was like okay i'm either gonna be in the workforce or i'm gonna be a drug dealer like i can't if we're getting too old to play the fence it's too dangerous so i'm like i still like doing what i want when i want how i want i still like partying so uh my girlfriend broke up with me and uh i was full-fledged right on how did you know that the feds were tracking you?

Because one of my buddies was like the feds approached me. They tried to arrest me for a very small amount of drugs. And fortunately, my boy was he was he was this wild cat that wasn't scared of the cops. And he was like, man, I had an ounce of weed on me and the feds had me up. And they said, we want you to put a wire on and go catch kramer and this other guy and he told him you know put me in jail it's an ounce of weed what are you gonna do yeah and he told us and i'm like man i'm i'm done right now yeah that'll scare the shit out of you yeah 20 years old knowing feds are on you it's, we're out.

You weren't growing marijuana. You were buying it and then selling it? Straight from the grower. So we cut out all the middlemen and went straight for the grower in Canada. And that's who we were dealing with. And would you take it back and forth across the border yourself? No, that wasn't our job. They contract people out to do that.

We're the buyer. They got to get it to us. And did they have someone on the inside at the border to get – do you know how they got it across? Did you ever hear stories? No questions. It wasn't my – the old saying, it's none of my business, and that's some business you just – I didn't really want to know. Right. Too much.

You know too much. You got to sell a lot of weed. If you're not the – I used to grow all my weed, and I would sell it, and I would sell it for $60 a bag. I mean – So the profits were pretty good, but, I mean, that's – you know what I mean? Like if you sell 10 bags in a day, you've got $600. I mean – I mean, we would sell them like – I'd get, I don't know get three, 400, 500 pounds every three weeks. Oh my God.

Couldn't find one seed in there. Oh my God. And the minimum price we were buying was 2,200 per, but we were selling for at least 4,200 per. Oh my goodness. So that's what you, you didn't sell. I was selling eighths you were selling pounds you would sell someone there was a point in time where if you didn't have 250k in cash yeah don't even talk to us wow and so you were so it would get just distributed all over the united states

no just down the east coast try to keep it tight and and how how would the um how do you what's the packaging like for that much marijuana is it on a pallet or these ding dongs would come down some mostly you know vacuum sealed individual pounds and like a uh like a hockey bag wow like one time these ding dongs show up and they got like a pickup truck with like, they would always come with whatever they grew is what they would send. So it'd be like 313 or 280. Right. It was just a whole bunch of loose pounds in the back of a pickup truck with trash bags over it. And this freaking fat guy with a overalls and no t-shirt no socks or shoes on gets out and i'm like what the freak is going on here wow and and then my partner was like you you can't talk

to them like that and i'm like yo man he's gonna get us all pinched like never send that guy again and then they started wising up and they'd send like old ladies in a lincoln town car with a couple hundred pounds in the back it was always sketchy always um and did you have competitors did you have in the area yeah but delaware is such a small place that you just know who all the players are so it was like look man you know no one's out for blood around here we didn't even do most of our dealing in delaware you try to because it's so we we have 995 000 people here you know so i got 16 cousins here people know right nah but we got the university of delaware which is a lot of people and you know

a lot of kids from like long island new y York, North Jersey come down and, and you get to know them people. And then you got kids coming up from Baltimore and you get to know them. So you start meeting these people from out of state and that's where you want to do most of your, uh, your business. Like you don't want to, I'm not even going to answer that question. Wow. Do you know, did you know Hunter? Uh, I don't know him personally, no. But it's Delaware.

Everyone kind of knows everyone? Yeah. I mean, I've been swimming in old Smokey Joe's pool before. Wow. Wow. He lives like five minutes down the road. Oh, my goodness. What a small world. His daughter's my agent. I used to work for her, actually, a few years ago. She's actually very – his daughter, I will say, she's a very caring young woman. Those kids have been through some shit, man.

Yeah. Those kids – like Hunter Biden's not – I mean, you if you told us if his dad wasn't joe probably people would have some compassion for him he's been through some fuck what a fucked up life he's had i mean and that's like you know hey man your dad's absent whether it's your dad's in jail dead or off doing politics somewhere you know there's missing you know his father was missing right and i don't think people take that into consideration they just and his mom died and he's a it was a hardcore drug addict and he's got and he's got really he doesn't have values i mean he was escaping reality right yeah he was jacked up

and i mean i did the same thing you know my dad left i couldn't handle it i was angry started doing drugs hanging out the wrong people Next thing I know, selling all these drugs. Adam, where did your dad go? You know, him and my mom, you know, they were 20 when they had me. Tried to duke it out for 12 years and they just didn't go along. And he moved. I mean, he lived right down the road. But, you know, right around when when he left my mom got breast cancer and you know she

she was on lots of medication and she would lie about my dad so you yeah like oh you know dad's not paying his money and and and he was but i didn't know that till i was 18 and it was just too late did your mom pass she's probably gonna die within the next month no shit same breast cancer so she my mom is is a strong-willed lady so she was the youngest of nine. Her mother died three hours after she was born. And she got breast cancer at 32. And the doctors were like, you're going to be dead in two months. And they told me that, too. I was 12 years old. And my mom pulled me in the hospital room and she said, don't listen to the doctors. I don't feel like I'm dying. I'm not dying. And she did not die. doctors. I don't feel like I'm dying. I'm not dying. And she did not die. And then with over the years, she, she has lupus, she got kidney throat cancer, survived, survived. But, you know,

currently she, uh, she has pancreatic cancer and there's just no coming back. So she's, uh, 62 years old. She's, she's like a walking, talking miracle. two years old she's she's like a walking talking miracle yeah what what a run i mean is she remarried she remarried at one point but they uh got divorced this dude was buck wild man he was his biker cat from brooklyn i don't even know how she met him but he was he was a wild guy probably met him in the waiting room at the jail when she's visiting you. Do you have siblings? I got one sister six years younger than me. And how is she doing?

Not too good. Wow. You know, when mom and dad split, I was 12, she was six. So it's like, she got six years more than me of like, I got at least, you know, my dad was a pretty good disciplinarian. So I got at least some good discipline and manliness in me up till 12. Yeah. And she did not. So, uh, you know, she was doing good until she was like young twenties.

You know, she was doing good until she was like young 20s. She met some dirtbag boyfriend, you know, started doing pills and that led to one thing. And, you know, she got in a bad car accident. She almost got her leg cut off and she has a bunch of rods in her leg and that set her into a spiral and, you know, a little bit enabling from mom. But it's a tough situation. The reason why I ask, going back to the Christian part, is I guess there's this misunderstanding. Maybe you had it when you went to jail, and I had it for probably 45 years too that um it's it i mean i know it's just a word but when you find out someone's a christian like i'm like jimmy's a christian right jimmy waddell and there's just

like like these guys who are practicing christianity they have some qualities about them that helps you like understand them better and makes you kind of want to be around those people they have some values whether they adhere to them or not they're making the attempt to be live a certain kind of life right um i mean it was like forgiveness and unforgiveness was a big thing for me like i was so freaking angry the 15 people that told me I was, I was blame shifting. Like I shouldn't be in jail, you know, because if I wouldn't be here, them dudes didn't tell on me, but no, I had to know I would be in jail because I'm a freaking criminal. Right. And then, and then I'm blaming it on mom and dad because of my upbringing. And

it's like, nah, man, they, they taught you right from wrong right they didn't hold your hand through this criminal thing dude i got listen to this my dad is an electrical engineer successful his father is a phd chemical engineer actually grew up out in uh like you know chandler boulevard and north hollywood so he grew up out there there were were some Russians, you know, migrated from somewhere in Russia to Chicago out to L.A. You know, he was a Ph.D. chemical engineer. My uncle Jim's a dentist. Do you know where he worked? Did he work in the in the like the military complex? Did he work at like Hughes Aircraft or something like that? Who am I? Boeing, your grandfather.

So that would be my great grandfather.father he worked installing um like installation on warships yeah i mean that makes sense there were a lot of really i mean that's great glassman's lineage too there are a lot of really fucking smart people there working in the in the uh in the war in the war machine a lot of smart fucking engineers and scientists okay that makes sense and then so his son who was my grandfather ended up going to Caltech on a full ride, became a chemical engineer, got drafted to the army, did his time in the army, went to Purdue, got a PhD in chemical engineering and helped invent Kevlar with DuPont. Wow. And then my other grandfather's from the Southie projectss in Boston. He was a state trooper. Right. And my uncle Frank was a state trooper and a federal agent. My uncle Timmy was a cop. You know, cousin Tommy has been in the Air Force for 23 years. So I got all these doctors and engineers, military and law enforcement. All the men I just mentioned are there. They're all like extroverted, you know, very active. So I'm like, I'm like, don't look at me like that. I'm like, if you grow up without a dad, who knows what happened to you, too.

Right. So, you know, my old man wasn't around and I had nobody giving me the manly discipline except for one of my my friends down the street. His older brother was in a gang and man i love what he was doing i'm like i want to be just like that i want to be he's 21 years old he's got a house he's got girls he's got money cars he's got a you know low-level job i'm like dude i want to that's great and and i aspire to be that unfortunately unfortunately. But and, you know, that's what that's what we do now. You know, we're coaching these kids that are living in a fatherless community. I'm not I hear you and I'm going to come to that in a second. What kind of scale did you use?

Oh, man, this thing was like, like, you know know the little kitchen table ones that look like like this yeah they're like you know flat silver yeah like it was it a triple beam no it was this large it was just a larger model of the tiny one you would put like ounces of meat on in your kitchen it was a larger one not digital it was a digital oh large scale so you could read and most of the time it was i mean it was on point down to the gram like it i mean you're thinking a thousand was it so you buy 200 pounds and they'd have it accurate to the gram. It's like, damn. Well, like, but they'd have each pound individually wrapped.

Right, right. So you just take all those pounds and put them on, you know, because you might have some guy along the way who thinks that's smart and he's taken out 10 grams out of 200 pounds. That's a lot of product. I'd definitely do that. I would have definitely do that i would have definitely done that and you you know people deal with you because that'd be that's like you're you're getting paid to do a job yeah you're trying to skim off the top they ever try to buy weed from you after they drop it off or the guys who drop it off or like hey i just sold you uh 200 pounds can i buy one pound back if they no no but mean, if they wanted to, you know, get hired or whatever,

it'd be like, here, here you go. Yeah. Whatever. Like, I mean, there's most of those dudes, they're just the, they're like the guinea pigs, right? They're, they're getting hired. And usually it was like a, I wouldn't say guinea pig. It was at that level.

They're usually hiring some like gang outfit to take care of the driving any any um any deliveries not make it where like you're waiting for the delivery and then you get a call hey he got stopped at the border that one's not coming yeah yep but it wasn't our guy we got that call a couple times they were like just be on standby and it'd be like be on standby for how long and they're like just be on standby and it'd be like i remember one time it was like two weeks just on standby for two weeks and and everything's drying up you know and people are freaking blowing your phone up looking for because you know it's just all business business

business and people yes supply and demand i as i as i built up to i'm coming to talk to you today over the last you know week or two i started thinking like how did my parents not know that i was dealing weed. And then I just realized because my parents were working, I mean, I had a mom and dad around, but they, they just, they just worked. They were just, you know what I mean? And no one asked where I went on the weekends. No one asked, like no one even asked me if I went to school. I didn't even go like,

you know what I mean? I'd say I was going to school, but I just wouldn't. And I'm assuming it was like that for you. Like I, I, I guess, I guess it was like that for you too, right? There was just no one monitoring you and you wanted to make money. Like I never thought I was doing it. Did you ever think you were doing anything bad? I never thought I was doing anything bad. I knew it was illegal, but I never thought it was like immoral or I was a bad person. I thought I was a good person. In high school, I didn't. It was like, whatever. I mean, I didn't really, I knew what we were doing was wrong.

But you would make the money and buy people sandwiches and shit, right? I mean, like you would take your friends out and like you were. We'd go hang out or, you know, and sometimes we would even take turns dealing, you know, because you're like, hey, man, I'm getting, you know, i feel like i'm getting hot and the principal or this teacher might know so i'm gonna scale back and then you hand it off to another guy and he'll do it for a while did your mom know you were doing this or your dad i think they they vaguely knew something was up suspected yeah i mean you know my dad wasn't around much from the ages of 12 i didn't really get to know him again until i was like 18 19 and uh you know mom was sick a lot

i had a little sister i was kind of self-sufficient during my high school years and i remember my senior year my mom she said i'm going to get married and moving out and i'm like oh where am i going to live and she was like you're going to live at this house that i have and i'll pay for the house and i'm going to go live with my husband so now i'm like i'm 18 my senior year and i'm like this is great yeah great now i'm really free and i actually got honor roll my senior year high school wow just to kind of like because you want to keep the heat off you know do we have such similar stories when i was a sophomore in high school my mom kicked me out and my dad had an apartment complex like in the hood like the crazy hood and it were people like

my my um my neighbors their rent would be in these apartment buildings would be like anywhere between $5 and $25 a month, but they still hadn't paid their rent in five years. Like, you know what I mean? And he gave me, so from 16 to 18, I was just on my own, basically. It's funny. I never even thought of it like that until, I mean, I'd see my parents now and again, like, you know, like in passing. Just think about that though. 16 to 18 there's like zero discipline yeah it was crazy i drank i just i was just drink did you drink a lot

of alcohol i drank so much alcohol i loved it at the time i loved it it was my like i couldn't wait and that's was part of the motivation to deal drugs it like, well, I need money to have fun. And meaning like get bags of drugs and do alcohol and drink alcohol. Right. So like when I figured out I could take an ounce of weed and I could sell, I could break it up into like 20.8 and not make it a full dime. Have free weed, make a hundred bucks and keep flipping it. I'm like, oh, this is every day. Every day I had a system. I'd wake up around six. I'd buy an ounce of weed. I'd bag it up, get on the bus, go to school, sell dime bags till lunch, get smoked out at lunch, miss practice. The most dangerous time in America is after school, sell weed all after school, hang out at night. Same thing in the morning. I actually, I needed to go to school.

For your business? For the business. God, and you were disciplined and scheduled and. Well, I mean, I mean, kind of, but I mean, of course, you know, I was, I got arrested a few times. Did you ever get arrested at school? No. I don't know how.

The cops came to school looking for some of my friends. They got arrested. Somehow, I never got arrested while I was at school. That's the worst when the cops are at school. They put, not because of us, but because our high school was kind of wild. I mean, we had a local pd guy stationed at the school fuck what how that's it's fucking wild and and that was just basically you were in and out of did you ever have a real job between the age of 15 and 27 yeah well when i was younger

i worked uh i did a lot of masonry like like bricklaying jobs. I remember being a pizza delivery boy. Oh, yeah, I did that. That was cool. Man, what else did I do? I was a furniture repair guy. You know, I just kind of got these weird, odd jobs to, you know, because you needed to have some type of income, right? Even though I was a student, it was like, I need some type of income. So, you know, I, I had jobs, nothing, nothing to the best job I had. I was, I had to get an internship for college in order to graduate. And I got a job working as a golf instructor for the LPGA. Wow. It was, and I did not know how to golf. It was, so I was working if back in the day, there was a McDonald's championship at a local

country club and I was part of the LPGA tour. So I got on board to do tournament staff as part of the internship. And then after the intern, that part of the internship was over. They were like, hey, we need you to coach golf to kids in the projects. Do you know how to golf? I'm like, yeah, it's $22.50 an hour to coach kids in the projects. Wow. How much?

And that was back in like 2000. So for two summers, I'd put on my nice neat little shirt little golf shorts and i would get a van and drive down to the projects and pick up all these kids and take them to the local golf course no shit it was it was wild because it i was worked for like from 8 a.m to around 1 or 2 p.m and then i would just get hammered for the rest of the day, summertime, sell drugs, get hammered. How old were these kids? Oh man, like eight to 15. Wow.

It was, it was like, and it's crazy. Cause that's what I do. I don't coach golf now, but I coach similar type of kids from similar type of neighborhood, but I was doing it back then. I mean, I really enjoyed it, but I definitely, they should have did a little bit more digging on me before they let me drive all those kids back and forth. I ran a home for disabled adults. I don't remember what year it was, but I did it

for five years. It was probably, let's say I'm just making this up. Let's say it was 1999 to 2004. And I started there at $ dollars an hour and when i left there i had more than 20 people working for me and i ran the fucking house and i still and i was only making like 1975 an hour that's in california so fucking 22 bucks to teach fucking golf in the hood is crazy it was it was it was pretty cool and it was an internship. I wasn't technically allowed to get paid. And the college was like, you're not allowed to get paid to do this. And I'm like, listen, I need money. I'm a college student.

I mean, I had tons of money coming in from other sources, but they didn't know that. It sounds like you always just had kind of a good head on your shoulder anyway, just like the fact that you were still interested. You needed stimulation. The fact that you needed stimulation from these jobs, you need stimulation. Just you wanted to be. You didn't just want to turn into just a fucking kingpin or a burner or, you you could have got sucked up into crazy drug use right you could have got sucked up into into violent crime but you didn't somehow you managed to keep one foot in like reality it was crazy i mean we we kind of still had this like sense of morals about us i mean because even though we're we're from like you know kind of hard work and blue collar neighborhood and uh you know you still had people checking you you know like hey man you can't be you know treating girls like

that or you know like sniffing a bunch of cocaine and drinking and then sobering up was cool but like getting hooked on on dope or you know sniffing meth or something was like taboo right even to the drug dealers because then no one wants to deal with you right right you know it was like you're you're this guy that's dealing all these drugs and and you're starting to meet people like out of state different cities different countries and they don't want to deal with that crap yeah all the people who ended up getting into methamphetamines whether it be coke or meth or whatever they just start getting so fucking weird intense yeah the guys who have a bible in one hand and a gun in the other and you're like what the fuck i mean that was probably the i mean i sniffed

meth before but not i couldn't handle it i'm like i'm done with this and then i mean we were some partying cocaine guys but uh there was just a sense like, hey, man, you've been up for two days. What are you doing? We're not going to allow you to conduct business like this. And it's like, damn. Adam, what was the most you ever got popped with, like in an actual bust? Nothing. I mean, I got busted when I was 15 with an ounce of weed but they never

rolled in on you and you got 100 pounds in the trunk no it ended up just being all wires and photos and shit like that no wires no photos it was uh in the federal government it was a hearsay, meaning two people said he did it. And then they got 15 people to say he did it. And one time I got pulled over, I had like, I don't know, like a hundred pills of ecstasy on me. And I just talked my way out of it. He kept asking to search my car and I'm like, hi man, I'm speeding. Give me a speeding ticket.

Let me go. That could have been horrible. I would easily got three to five for that. It just wasn't the longest you were in jail before you did the seven years. Months, three months. Okay. So you had a little practice. Yeah, a little bit, but not really.

I mean, that first six months is like, it's rough. It's rough. And then kind of get in a groove and you're starting to meet people and at least, you know, you know, you get in a routine and that, you know, it gets a little better. But that first three years, when you don't know, I didn't know what was going to happen to me. That was like, that was pretty hard. Once you get to the prison, you're like, okay, I see light at the end of the tunnel. I'm going to put my head down. When you get to the federal prison, you have a job 40 hours a week.

So I was working 40 hours a week. I was on the softball league, playing handball, going to church. So prison time got a little easier. You went to 10 different prisons yeah there uh mainly because once i was i was at the end of my federal prison sentence and uh i thought i was going home i knew i had some old duis hanging out that i had to go take care of i had been writing letters to this. I had one in Delaware and one in Pennsylvania. And they were like, just come see us when you get out and we'll take care of the case.

And when I got out, there was two different county, the prison guards, like you got two different counties here trying, they're fighting over you in a parking lot. Who's going to take you? I was like, oh, what the freak? And so from that point i went to jersey i went to wait a second you're federal you served your time and the day you got out some dudes were waiting for you for a dui yeah it god that sounds like a waste of taxpayers' money. Fuck, that sounds like a fucked up. I did 13 months after that. Oh, my God.

In a state prison in Pennsylvania. And they were transferring me. Like, I went from one to, I went to six different jails. And within 13 months, it was wild, man. And it was like, you know, in the feds, it's probably not what you think. You hear everything on TV. But it is better than a state prison you're i mean the people you deal with are better because they're more intelligent and the you know there's only 220 000 inmates federal inmates in the whole country but there's like over i don't know what it is it's's like three point three million state inmate.

Or that's insane, by the way. That's one in 300 people. Yeah. And well, I mean, listen, here's a crazy statistic. So we have five percent. We United States have around five percent of the whole world's population, but we have 25 percent of the whole world's incarcerated. Tell me, think about that. It just doesn't make sense. Yeah, that's absolutely nuts. I'm not against prison. I needed to go to prison. I did not need to go to prison for two years for DUI, maybe a couple months. I'm not saying DUIs are terrible crime.

After you do seven years, there should be, there needs to be some sort of wash. Yeah. Like after you do, after you've been in for seven years, there needs to be like, hey, if the, if the warden vouches for you, you're anything that's below this, anything that's like a nonviolent crime gets washed or something. Listen, I did my, my fed time, went to Pennsylvania, did 13 months. I was on parole inlvania and i had a federal

probation officer i had to go back to court four months after i was out living at home i was out went back to court for a dui that was 10 years old and the and the judge was like sick you're getting 60 days in the county after you've been out for four months i was like are you nuts and my lord had you been sober at that time yep the day that's another thing if you've been sober for fucking seven years and then they finally get you somewhere they got to be like all right you're good i'm like 60 days in the county i got a job i got two probation officers at this point and they're and my lawyer was like be quiet be quiet they're going to give you more time and i was like all right and my lawyer was like be quiet be quiet they're going to give you more time

and i was like all right and the guy was like report tomorrow so boom i report to local county jail and i end up doing seven days in the county and then they put me on the ankle bracelet for the remainder of the time did your parole officers from those other areas like vouch for you? Like they're like, yo. Yeah. My fed PO was awesome. She was awesome lady. She, I almost went back to jail because the, I had two state probation officers for two different DUIs, which is a whole nother waste of time. And, uh, it was getting hard to, you, you had to report your PO from nine to three.

And I'm like, I work construction. They already know I'm on probation, but I can't keep leaving because taking the bus takes all day. And I called the Fed P.O. I said, look, they're ready to put me back in jail. My federal P.O. came to pick me up and took me to my state P.O.'s meeting. And then took me back to work like she was a beast i like that lady helped she literally helped me get to the next level just by doing stuff like that uh what sean sullivan what if you kill people while do i listen i i have been very outspoken i don't give two and i'm not speaking for adam here i don't give two fucking cents about fucking people like george floyd you have to know that i I have three little boys.

Anytime I hear someone who's drunk driving or high on meth or on fentanyl driving around the streets, I just picture my boy on a tricycle in a car driving by him with a drunk driver. I don't give a fuck if lightning strikes and kills those people. I really don't. I'm sorry to be lack of compassion. That being said, if he's fucking in jail for seven years and he hasn't had a drink and he gets out and you want to fucking get him for a dui why don't you just say to him hey we're going to talk to the warden we're going to do a drug test on you right now to see if you have any when the last time you drank alcohol and if it's all clean you let him go i'm just saying it's a waste of taxpayers money at that

time or why not just tell him hey he has to do 30 or 60 days in a aa thing or he has to like something but a dude's already done seven years and, and now you're going to grab him again. And he's got a clean record, something that it's, I don't want my money spent that way. I'm cool with that dude. In Delaware.

I don't know every other state, but I know in Delaware, it's an average, it's like $55,000 a year to incarcerate. Sorry, you can't let people get away with small crimes. I agree. That's another thing i fucking someone steals a pack of gum from a fucking asian mom and dad who fucking slaving

their ass off in the liquor store 18 hours a day take that kid out and spank the shit out of him put people away i agree stealing is fucking horrible but i'm just saying seven years in jail sober you got it you can't you can't like have you can't pick a guy up again after that for for something unless he's done something bad i just can't i just can't do it i mean i'm not against putting people in prison if they're getting multiple duis and i'm not saying you know but what i'm saying is that time should have ran concurrent right so there would have been dollars saved between the yeah yeah there you go concurrent you're right there would have been dollars saved between the. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Concurrent. You're right. I should have been like serving my time. And there was a lot

of guys that did get concurrent sentences. And again, you know, I'm not against prison. I'm just saying I knew a lot of guys that shouldn't be in prison that were in prison. we're in prison i i i know of i have an acquaintance who um who has a son who is in jail for um consensual sexual activity uh with a minor and like you like you know like an 18 and a 15 year old type of thing and he's doing like six years in jail yeah it's something crazy like oh dude meanwhile we have fucking people who are 31 we i'm just reading this case of a 31 year old woman who had fucking sex with a 13 year old boy 10 times he's not in jail yeah that system does not make sense yeah it's like i don't i don't know what the right thing is i i know that that's a touchy subject but it's like fuck man there are some people getting fucked i'm grateful for only getting the amount of time i got now if i listen i'm a

white guy that had a college degree did that help lower my sentence yeah i did and that's a touchy subject but you think that how do you know that because the feds did a background check on me to first grade and they were like we want to know where this kid went wrong. All right. So, you know, the fact that I had a college degree, the fact that no one in my family had ever been arrested, the fact that I had uncles or law enforcement, that helped. That helped me. It just did. Because they knew, okay, well, at least.

Well, it could be the opposite. It could be the opposite today in California. That could hurt you. Well, true. I mean I've seen dudes from this area with lesser crimes than me that were from a bad neighborhood, different skin tone, and they got more time. Damn. Well, that seems to be a common – I don't know that for for a fact but that's a pretty common narrative right yeah meanwhile meanwhile george floyd that was the third time george floyd had been pulled over high on fentanyl yeah i'll tell you this i saw i saw just to just to counter that and sorry i i countered a lot if i would have done in my neighborhood what george floyd did if the the cops told me to keep my hands on the steering wheel and I wouldn't have kept my hands on the steering wheel 15 times like they told them to, if I would have reached for my glove box, they had to beat the fuck out of me. In Berkeley or Oakland, California, you would not have fucking gotten away with what he did. No fucking way.

One time I squirted a cop with my windshield wiper fluid as i drove by on the freeway and they had fucking five cops come over and just fucking give me the work me over a little bit uh i mean i've been beat up by cops before yeah that's because i ran you know um so so you get out of uh prison and what is the Beret Project, and why do they call it that? It's called the Green Beret Project because a man who was a Green Beret, he was in third group special forces, started it. So I get involved. I get out. I'm on federal probation. I told a federal judge. I was in this federal reentry program that was a voluntary program for ex-offenders to have a high level of accountability by their POs. And you get time off and you get certain other job opportunities.

And I'm like, sign me up. And then I told, because I'm a little brazen and direct, I said, hey, I said, whatever, whoever's in charge of this state, it's pretty stupid that they're paying $150,000 a year to incarcerate one boy. That's dumb. When that kid has, at the time, it was right around 85% chance that they could recidivize, meaning get out, get arrested, come back. And I'm like, we're just wasting our money. This is stupid. When that kid just needs some stern love because he doesn't have a dad. Right. stupid when that kid just needs some stern love because he don't have a dad right so i had one uh

this federal chief of he was a the federal chief of probation he said i want that kid talking about me inside juvenile detention center coaching crossfit the kids and i didn't have a crossfit license so i'm like huh so i called just Googled CrossFit, found some number, called some random number and said, hey, man, I want my L1, but I don't have a thousand bucks. Just got out of prison. I want to coach these kids. They said, find a course.

Got the course. I started going into Juvenile Detention Center. Wait, what year was that? 15. Do you know who you called? Was it a woman or or man you spoke to woman was she in the training department i don't know she must have been i would could her name have been hayley would you recognize her name if you heard her name

i don't think it was a hayley interesting i'd be very curious to know who that is you know they were super cool about it there was no like you know i was i was ready to rebuttal trump whatever i had to do and they were just like yeah just pick a course i'm like oh no shit i picked the course down i mean it doesn't surprise me but like it surprises me that you got a hold of someone because we were really good at not getting not letting anyone call us but if you did get ahold of someone, I mean, fucking Greg was very, I mean, the, the, the staff knew, especially in 2015, the, the, the values of CrossFit was do the right thing for the right reasons for the

right people. And so someone just like, well, he pounded that into us. Um, wow. You know, I can probably look through some emails but anyway i was coaching these kids i uh did you like your l1 sorry before we get there did you like it uh yeah i didn't know what the hell was going on i'd done crossfit a few times like i'd listen i showed up to this crossfit gym like two months after i got out of prison i was in dickies you know like the wife beater tank top yeah yeah yeah that's all my boys wear in my construction boots awesome like what do you want and i'm like i want a student membership because i don't got enough money to

pay the full thing and they were like i'm like listen man just got out of prison i need i want to work out and they what gym was that what was that? It's called a hard bat athletics. It was hard bat CrossFit. So the dudes were younger to me. This guy named Ian Harden and the other guy's name is Derek Batman. So Ian Harden has left the gym. That's his real last name, Batman, Aaron Batman?

Derek Batman. Derek Batman, wow. So he still owns the gym and the other guy has moved on, but, uh, that's why the name hard bat. Okay. So these two young, they were younger than me. They probably thought I was buck wild, man. I was like, it was like box jumps running and pull-ups. And I do these women in, you know, I just got out of jail. These women in there were smoking me and I was getting fired up.

I'm like, damn it, these women. And I couldn't do a kipping pull up, but I'm like duking out these prison strict pull ups. And I was definitely one of the last people to finish. I was I didn't I didn't like that at all. And you went in there by yourself, huh? Well, my cousin. She had been going there. So she just had mentioned, hey, you should try this place.

And that's where I just, that's where I landed. And I mean, I was instant, like, cause I'm, I'm not like, I didn't really, I don't like going to the gym. Like, oh, it's chest day. It's leg day. Like, it's just boring to me. Like we used to do the ding dongs in the gym. I deadlift, bench, shrug and all in the same day in the same circuit.

So boom, started coaching these kids at Juvenile Attention Facility. I get invited by federal probation to speak at this 300-person recidivism event. And they had an ex-offender panel four of us why why why you why did they like you who did you leave an impression on the federal judge okay they they said we like the way you're able to articulate the message between ex-offenders and politicians and i said don't put me on that panel because i will i will tell the truth and I have nothing to lose. And they were like, that's why we want you. I'm like, sign me up. I had three probation officers at the time. And the same story I just told you, I told all those people. I said, I'm not pointing fingers at the actual state probation officer,

but the rules imposed on them are wrong and you're setting dudes up for failure. I said, you got a guy with a college degree. I got three more college degrees while I was in prison. And I can't even handle this. A dude that doesn't even have a high school diploma, he's going to get out and go back to jail because he's going to give up. Give me a break. I said, the feds are winning and the state's losing. And the, and the, the senator's office approached me and said, we want to talk. And I said, yeah, whatever. You're excited. This is an event. We'll see. A week later, I called that lady at the senator's office.

I said, listen here. I got 10 boys I'm coaching, and they're going to shoot each other, and I need help. I don't know anybody where you live. Sorry, sorry. Give me one second here, Adam. I want to connect some dots. Okay, so you get out of prison two months later you're in a crossfit gym right so so you go to federal prison then you get out

and they're waiting for you for some old ass crimes you do some more time for some old ass duis then you get out finally and you're out and you're you're still and you're in delaware now right correct and are you living with that cousin, that female cousin at the time? Is she taking care of you or where are you living? Living with my dad. With your dad. Well, that's cool. And and then so you you call CrossFit and you get the level one. So you go to a CrossFit gym and you start training. Then you say, why do you call CrossFit to get the level one? Where do you find these kids at that you're like, oh, I need to get my level one so I can train these kids? level one where do you find these kids at that you're like oh i need to get my level one so i can train these kids i just knew that they were inside the detention facility so i'm they had someone had someone asked you to train them yet well i had been throwing this idea around to the feds that hey maybe we could save some money as a state okay allow some ex-offenders to go inside Okay. So you were in there now teaching this class. Right. And then, so sorry.

And then right where we left off before I interrupted you, you were saying that you had these 10 kids and you were going to, what was going to happen? You were going to lose them if you didn't get some help? They were going to shoot each other. They were talking about it. And they lived an hour south of where I lived. And I didn't really have any connections down there. So I'm talking to this Senator and I'm like, listen, I need help in this town called Dover. These kids are going to get out and shoot each other. And she's like, I got a guy. I'll have him call you. So a week goes by, I call back. I'm like, he didn't call. And she's like kindly

telling me that I should probably stop calling her. And I'm like, I didn't call. And she's like kindly telling me that I should probably stop calling her. And I'm like, I'll call you once a week for the next year. Until that guy that you say can help me cause a couple days later, this is the phone call of the century for me. What year is this? This is in this is all the way up in 2016 now. Okay. He calls me and he's like, this is, this is so-and-so from the FBI. And I'm thinking in my head, dang it.

These people need to leave me alone. And he immediately says, I'm a Christian. I do CrossFit. And I just started a nonprofit helping at-risk boys called the Green Beret Project. And he just nailed it. Boom, boom. And now I'm like, what? Yeah. And we talk for like two hours and my head's spinning. And I'm trying to like, you know, digest all this stuff. This guy's saying that I was trying to do, but I couldn't get through the red tape because I'm an ex-offender nobody wants everyone knows what I'm saying is right right they don't

really want to take the chance on me because I'm an ex-offender and I'm only two years out and I understand that hell I ran this organization people are you know nervous about what I could do next so this is what sealed the deal for me. I get off the phone with this guy, and I call the chaplain from the first jail I was at, my first ever Christian mentor. And I told him the story. I'm like, he told me he was a Green Beret. And the chaplain just starts laughing. And I'm like, what is so funny, man? He was like, I was a Green Beret in the 60s and the 70s. And I was like, I'm like, this is it. I'm like, I did not know that the chaplain, I knew he was in the army.

I knew he was a local PD guy. I knew he was a farmer. But I'm like, dude, I did not know that for eight years. And now I know it just came out that you were a Green Beret and this Green Beret just called me. And I'm like, oh, this is it. So I just, you know, that was it. And ever since me and that guy, I mean, we probably talk every day. What's the guy's name?

Justin Downing. Is he still in the FBI? Yep. Wow, that's crazy. And why did he start this program and he just saw things on a grander scale meaning so first as a green beret you know he you know they're trained to build relationships with people uh they're trained to you know if anyone's listening from the sf world you know i was not in the sf so i don't you know know everything about anyone's listening from the SF world, you know, I was not in the SF, so I don't, you know, know everything about it. But just from what I hear, you know, he's trained to build

relationships with people. They're trained to help people solve their own problems, not enable people, right? So as an FBI agent, he's like, I'm tired of arresting this. I arrested this one guy multiple times and I shouldn't be doing that. It's a waste of taxpayer dollars. When, hey man, what if we just went into these neighborhoods where these kids didn't have dads and we just trained them to live successful lives? Whether that's sending them to trade school, military, college. military, college, but even before that, spending time with them, building relationships with them, teaching them how to live and conduct their lives in a manner that they can function in society, right?

Is he married? Yes. See this bald guy right here? On the right, this guy? Yeah, tan-looking bald guy. Yeah. So that's my boy, George Dobbins. He's he had, I think the 86 CrossFit gym ever, and he's still operating. Dude, that tattoo on his arm is crazy. George. So George, George just gave us a key to his gym. It was like, just use it in off hours.

And, uh, currently we've trained up, you know, like I got like six kids that, uh, like we, we just have a group membership at his gym.

So kids can go there on their own, not all kids, but certain, certain boys that have been doing well. How many kids are in the program now that you're responsible for? About 200. Holy shit. All at that same facility?

No. So we have three locations. And the main location that I'm at, we probably have around 110, 120. Are there any normal people there at that gym? By normal people, I mean dudes like soccer moms who just walk in. Do they train side by side with these cats? So that gym you just saw is George's gym. It's called Dover CrossFit.

That's a crazy fucking gym, by the way. He's got over 200 members. And like I said, we only have like six or seven guys that are trained up well enough to go there on their own. And these are guys that are like between 17 and 20. Okay. And we've known them since the inception, meaning I've known these boys since like sixth or seventh grade, eighth,

ninth grade. And now they're, they're growing old. So they're like my kids. So they know what they messed up at that gym. It's going to be, there's going to be consequences. Right.

Right. It's your reputation on the line yeah um so at george's gym you know that's just a normal functioning crossfit gym and it's cool because we can plug kids in there and now they're i'm like hey man you're on your own act right while you're in there you know and the gym that you're at with these 110 kids is this is the place where you met a guy and he's like some rich cat and he's like hey i'll give you this place for a dollar a year for six years so that in the middle picture that brick building yeah that is the projects so that's an old run-down community center that the the housing authority still owns the building but they let us manage the building and then they pay all the bills is that different than the place

that the guy gave you where he paid the utilities and give you the dollar a year lease is that different or is that the place so i don't really know what you're talking about okay i saw an interview you did um uh yeah yeah yeah with the indian sage yeah yeah yeah why do they call that show that totally fucking off topic here but what do you mean that show's called indian sage no that's the girl's name is india sage oh oh gotcha i was expecting like some like like buddhist like floating on a carpet and like in okay okay gotcha i need to learn how to read okay so what you're talking about was a wilmington facility we were we entered a contract for a dollar a year and uh just turns out that guy was a crook so we left oh that's too bad that sounded fun yeah it's guy was a crook. So we left. Oh, that's too bad.

That sounded fun. Yeah, it was pretty. Like a bad crook? You know, like not misappropriating fund, federal dollars, misappropriating state dollars, stuff like that. It sounds like it was trickled down. I'm going to give him a pass. Yeah, I mean.

You know, I didn't. Some kids benefited. I just was like, yeah, we just can't be a part of that you know because it all costs at all costs i'm protecting we are protecting you know justin's position at the fbi oh good point right oh look at this annie sakamoto yeah that was at uh wadapalooza you took a bunch of the dudes down to guadalupalooza that you trained so the dude in the middle was a full-time employee he's like 27 but the other three dudes they're all the national guard and the dude with the glasses and the dude with the hat are both

correctional officers and i've known both of them i've known all three of them dudes since they are 12 years old they're all 19 they're correctional officers now yeah meaning they work as guards in the prison yeah it's pretty uh i'm i'm kind of nervous about it but uh we're you know continuing you know i see that kid multiple times a week um you know still mentoring him at a high level i mean he's 19 he was that kid was in a gang and he's now he's a correction officer and he's military police and the other day he came home he's like yo man he's like coach i saw uh you know these two other kids that we used to coach and they're they're in jail oh shit he's their jailer and i'm like that's crazy. All three all used to hang out on a block.

Damn. And that just came from a lot of, you know, man, we used to discipline that kid and he'd cuss us out and leave and we wouldn't see him for like three months. And it was I mean, he was he was why he's still a wild cat, but he's more tame now. He he was like me. He needs a high level of activity. And I said, listen, I just want you to be in the DOC for like two, maybe three years tops. Then we'll get you out of there. You'll get your college degree through your GI Bill. And he wants to be a state trooper.

But you can't – in Delaware, you've got to be at least 21 until you to be a state trooper, you know, but you can't in Delaware, you got to be at least 21 until you can be a local PD. And then if you want to be a state trooper, you have to have some college credits. So, and the reason why you're nervous about him working in the jail is because he's around criminals all day. Well, I don't want him to get manipulated by the men in the prison right like i don't want him to think it's cool to bring in a cell phone or a bag of drugs and give it to an inmate right yeah for uh for sure it seems like more and more i hear stories um i just saw a story yesterday i'm trying to. I saw a guy who was out, and he had married one of the females there who was one of the correction officers. It just sounds like –

It's wild. Yeah, prison is just a wild place. When you were there, did you see wild shit there? Yes. I saw – I mean, one day, they they locked us in wherever you're at in the compound boom you get locked in i was on the racquetball court which is outside but inside a locked fence and the fbi came on the compound and arrested a dozen or so guards and counselors like that was pretty crazy and they just lock everyone there, stay still, and they lock everyone up and then arrest the people.

Yep. And, I mean, we all, I mean, we knew kind of what was going on. But at the end of the day, what I try to, even when I tell this young kid, I said the inmate is always going to tell on the prison guard when it can only hide it for so long. There was dudes in the federal prison making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year hustling cell phones, hustling drugs. Oh, the guards. No, the inmates. Oh, no shit. It was crazy how sophisticated some of these dudes were. were and it used to drive me crazy because i'm like if you just took half of your brain and put it towards something you know uh productive you would be like one of the best businessmen or

best whatever but all your energy is put towards this criminal life i mean you just you meet people that make our 10 million a year look like peanuts. Right. You meet those dudes making 100 million a year. Right. And then you meet like crazy cartel dudes and Cubans and, you know, these Italian dudes. It's just it's wild. You're like, wow, there's like some real deal criminals out there. As long as there's that much money involved in it, it's never going to go away either. No. When they picked us up, there was people filled our shoes overnight.

Right. Do you know who they are too? I mean, I have an idea who did that, but. Right. So I tried. You can't blame them. Like it's a job vacancy. Yeah. I mean, they, they were doing what we were doing. And you know, one thing I,

I always tried to kind of like my friends were over here and my drug associates were over here just in case, like, I didn't want to have to be like, Hey, you know, Johnny boys in jail because I, he was dealing drugs for me. You know, I still have some of my same buddies who were my like wild high school, like just fun type buddies. I still hang out with them every now and then. That's cool. You know, we, they, and they know my boundaries, you boundaries. None of them are Christians.

They know I'm a Christian. Some of them still might smoke a joint. And they just have respect me so much because we grew up together. I mean, we're boys from the hood. We grew up together. How assimilated are you with these people? like i look at these pictures and you're the only fucking white dude in any of these pictures maybe occasionally there'll be another one uh i mean in the beginning it was like you pull up in this neighborhood and does anyone ever

walk up and be like yo what the fuck are you doing here every day i've had people be like what are you doing here white boy and i you know this is my old tendencies yeah i'll be like i'm taking care of your kids now i'm like all nervous they're gonna come over uh but i've been in that like that was in the beginning now i've been in that neighborhood for six, seven years. Nobody even thinks twice. They're like, Hey man, what's going on? You know, they know what I'm about. Yeah. Right. They, they were a little sketchy cause you had an FBI agent and this ex offender. They all thought I was an FBI agent too. Yeah. Whenever, when I lived in that neighborhood that I was in, if anytime I left,

like within a few blocks of my house right away, people just would call me a cop. Hey, piggy. We're not stupid, piggy. Well, I'm like, what, are you judging me? Oh, because I'm white and bald? Now you think I'm a cop? Come on. Yeah, of course.

Of course, yeah. I would have thought that if I was a kid. I would have looked at you and thought you were a cop. Some of them did. And now, with the kids, it's just consistency. Yeah. They see you show up. They don't care who you are.

As long as you're showing up, you're loving them, you know, you're treating them right, you know, golden rule type stuff. And they love you back. And then if you don't show up, that's the problem. You know, like that kid all the way over on the right, that big kid. Yeah. Man, I've known him since he was 12 years old. on the right that big kid yeah man i've known him since he was 12 years old i'm ready i'm taking into his first college visit on uh saturday wow i know that his mom right there she's uh you know she had a rough go but she's pretty good lady doing her best who pays you how do you get paid uh so part of my salary this this is going to get a wild twist right here

so you got comes from marijuana comes from marijuana taxes on the legalization of marijuana please tell me that that'd be fucking nuts well the dude that put me in prison the the united states attorney yeah called me in 2008 18 and said hey, brother, I want to pay you to solve gun violence. And I'm like, hey, brother, you put me in prison. I mean, this is the United States attorney here.

The guy that's in the video too, the India Sage video? Yes. Yeah, that was awkward when you were sitting by him, by the way. I was on the assault bike just watching you too. I'm like, holy him, by the way. Like I was like, I was on the assault bike, like just watching you two. I'm like, holy fuck, this is intense. He's a great. So interesting fact, there's 94 U.S. attorneys.

And when Trump left office, all 93 U.S. attorneys got the ax and one didn't. And it was him. Wow. Holy shit. three u.s attorneys got the ax and one didn't and it was him wow holy shit and that was because he had you know he's investigating the son oh shit i was nervous i was nervous i was gonna lose my paycheck oh shit so they can't fire him because he's investigating the son yeah holy shit wow that investigation's been going on a long fucking time yeah he's this guy so you got the united states department of justice has a bunch of money for what's called project safe neighborhoods and that's gets filtered to every single u.S. attorney in the country. Now, most U.S. attorneys would give that project safe neighborhood money to like the Police Athletic League or some like Boys and Girls Club or something like that. So this guy was like, hey, man, I think we should contract two ex-offenders.

We can't do direct hire, but I can contract them to go solve gun violence in our neighborhoods. And the criminal justice council, who's like a watchdog of the money, said, we don't think that you should contract these ex-offenders. And he said, thanks for your opinion, but I'm not asking your permission. And that's why I love the guy, because he's not scared to do the right thing. He's not worried about his reputation in that world. We're talking about a guy like he's got – he's an important guy. He makes a lot of crazy decisions on a daily basis. And here he's contracting two ex

offenders and this could blow right up in his face right i can do something the other dude does he do you work with them yeah his name's uh tyrone he's uh he's about 10 years older to me it's pretty i mean he's a squared away dude now he did federal Federal Time. Is he in the CrossFit gym too? Or a different program? Different program. He deals more with adult men coming out of prison. Okay. Which is super hard for me.

I just have no patience for it. Sure. Okay. So he's like, I can't deal with kids. And I'm like, I can't deal with the men. So it actually works out pretty well where i'm you know i'm coaching a bunch of kids trying to prevent them from going to jail and he's coaching up a lot of guys that are getting out of jail okay

and so this just so this gym how long is the program going to last? Your paycheck could go away at any day. Yeah, but I have one third of my salary comes from fundraising and through grants. So at this point, even if that money were to go away, there's other monies that would be able to fill the gap. Fuck, it's crazy that you can't get more security than that. Okay, so this facility right here just i want to understand this picture bear with me here this facility here is where you basically go every single day right and this facility is in what city dover delaware dover delaware and is that in how close in wilmington was the city that was called a murder town USA, right? Right. And how close is Dover to Wilmington?

Like an hour. Okay. And this facility, you've transformed this into a CrossFit gym. We have that big triangle roof on the right is a basketball court. Yeah. In the middle there, we're actually starting demo we're building a kitchen okay next to that we have like there's that's a basketball gym and so we do lots of crossfit in that basketball gym and then we do we have like a 200 square foot room that we have a rig okay but currently there's been a lot of federal state dollars coming in and we're building two 4,000

square foot pole barns for like around 150, 170,000. And they're going to be home to two different CrossFit gyms. And they're both inside the housing authority neighborhoods. Okay. So not on this property? No. In the back of that property right there, there's already a 4,000-square-foot cement pad poured, and then we just have to erect the pole barn. So we'll have another building in the back to do specifically for CrossFit. And then down the street, we have a 2,000-square-foot garage where we put a lift, a carpentry shop, and a landscaping company out of there. So you take it back to 2018, there was no money to pay me. I was a full-time CrossFit instructor at a gym making like 52K a year. And I left there because Justin, the FBI guy,

we bought a landscaping company hey was that at the batman crossfit place no this was in a place called uh riverfront crossfit okay okay it was this place was crazy it was 12 000 square foot crossfit gym and there was i had that owner on this show what was the owner's name of what river riverfront yeah i think you had a guy named steve bart oh yeah yeah yeah yeah he's in delaware too yeah steve coached at riverfront before he became owner of reconstructed crossfit work there was not some god there was someone else who had a gym on a river too maybe Maybe that was Babylon CrossFit. I can't fucking remember all these.

Okay. Okay, so sorry. So you were – just to help me fill in here. You were at that place with the Batman guy. Then you – that's where you trained, and then from there you actually became a coach at Riverfront CrossFit, and then you left that job to do this job? Yeah, so – became a coach at riverfront crossfit and then you left that job to do this job yeah so when when this guy this uh justin uh so we down and contacted you for two years we've been doing green beret project already but there wasn't that much money you know we have kids or a girlfriend or anything

i've been married for eight years oh shit you have kids no kids do you ever see your wife or you're just too busy working yeah she's she's in the other room right now all right because you're a fucking workaholic yeah i mean there there's a balance there uh there is about definitely has to be a balance there because i i because this seems like it's not work anymore right it's just like every day i'm pumping and and i get reminded of that about that a lot that i need to have balance with uh home life even just like productive fun on my end like i know i've been getting made fun of this people have been making fun of me for this but i picked up pickleball and i freaking love it oh awesome good on you yeah yeah it's old man's game good on you how old are you 42 yeah that's perfect i whitewater raft a lot too but you know i take kids whitewater rafting right but uh and

you're gonna end up playing pickleball with them too probably those new facilities will all have pickleball courts yeah i mean i'm already I already told him I would beat every single one of them at pickleball. So I got to be able to create that dominance over him a little bit. There's a guy, the Batman guy is, there was a guy who, there was a gym that he walked into after getting out two months after he got out.

And there was a guy there with, he had the name, last name Batman. So that's why I call him the Batman guy. And he went in there and started training. Yeah. I trained there for like three months and then I actually transitioned to, uh, this other guy who was a bodybuilder.

Um, he had a bodybuilding, like personal training gym. And then he had a CrossFit gym on the side and I walked into his gym and I knew him from the past. And I'm like, yo, man, I got my CrossFit L1. I want a job. And he just laughed and he was like, hey, brother, I got a lot of cops working here. And I'm like, I'm like, listen, man, I don't care about that. He said, this guy is awesome. He's like, he said right dude this guy is awesome he's like he said just i'll give you a membership for free just show up every day and start working out with my clientele and we'll see what happens so yeah bet what every you know four or five days a week worked out this clientele made a bunch of relationships he hired me and i worked there for four years hey 52k a year sounds pretty

good sounds like that's i think that's based on some of the numbers I saw from Chris Cooper, double the average salary of a CrossFit coach. Well, so- Not that it's great still, but I mean, it's money. So the way this happened was I was a foreman at a manufacturing plant. I was making 45 Gs a year, and I had Christmas bonus, I was making 45 G's a year and I had Christmas bonus, 75% of my health insurance paid and a 401k matching up to 3% and 50 cents on dollar up to 5%. And I never had any of those things in my life. And I went to this CrossFit gym and I said, hey got some non-profit money to bring juvenile detention

kids here can i start bringing kids here and i'll pay you to bring the kids here during off-peak hours and the lady looked at me and said how about you become my general manager wow i was like huh well i thought it was a dude who owned the gym that was his wife or something no at riverfront a girl a woman owned the gym at the river okay um i know this story takes all types of twists and turns no it's okay it's good it's a good story it's worth it's worth listening to so i said uh so just shooting from the hip i'm like well i'm gonna write a number on a piece of paper and I'm going to hand it to you. And if you can match that, I'll put my two week notice in today. And I wrote the number 45 G's and I say 52 K because she had to pay like seven grand for my IRA and my health insurance. I put it all on paper and I split it to her.

Like I did not wake up thinking this was going to happen. And she shook her head. She said, I can do that. I said, done deal. I coached 20 classes a week. I put 20 hours in marketing and retention. Boom. I had a job at CrossFit, working full-time CrossFit job. And I still to this day, I don't think I was totally qualified to do it. I mean, I had my L1. I was good with people, which is what mattered for real. And I knew I could grow on my technical side. She sent me to get my L2 for free. So now I have my L1 for free. I got my L2 for free, got my CrossFit kids for free. And then Chuck Carswell just hooked me up with my, I had to get my L2 recertified. So he hooked

us up for that for free because it's all part of the nonprofit. How do you know him? So back when 18, when we went to the CrossFit headquarters, I became all involved with the CrossFit Foundation. You know, like, you know, Murphy. Oh, yeah, Josh. So I talked. Oh, yeah.

He's a fucking Delaware guy. No, he's in maine same thing for me wow that's awesome i forgot about him that's a good dude i i've i've fuck is that that does that dude still does that guy work for crossfit so i don't think he ever really worked for them he's just i mean the guy's uh he does like cancer research stuff. Right. So he's just really liked him. I love interacting with him. Yeah. He's a great guy.

Yeah. He takes care of all the, uh, nonprofits. You know, he's cut us a couple of checks. Right. Um, I mean, listen, why does that guy do that? I never understood that dude's trip. I never, that guy's, it was just always such a good dude i tripped on him though i was like what the fuck is he doing i think he started out back in like 06

helping some veterans and i might be getting some chopped up but it's josh murphy right big dude he's a big dude yeah yeah yeah big josh murphy does 100 burpees in his hotel room every night. And he does those crazy all-night ruck things and shit. Yeah. Yeah. So I guess he contacted someone at CrossFit and asked for some gear and helped some veterans, and Glassman got involved. And then somehow the CrossFit Foundation was birthed. And then Steve Liberati was like the first guy in there. And then you had people like

Aaron Hoff from Keala Foundation. Right. Wow. You're dropping some names. So I used to talk to Steve Liberati. He's not part of it anymore, of course. And then... That's a shame what happened to Steve's club. That fucking... That beef jerky was the shit.

Yeah. He's like steve lives like half hour from me um i talked to hoffy like probably once every couple months i really like what he's doing he's probably the closest thing in the country that i know of that's like kind of what we do how about matt schindeldecker he's kind of of doing it, isn't he? So that guy, I know that guy too. Dude, that guy is freaking awesome. So we just threw this. Kind of the same thing as you, right? Different, but same, meaning he has a fucked up pass that he's now putting to work for him.

Yeah. And you had a fucked up pass that you're now putting to work for you. Dude, he just gave us 24 sandbags for free. Schindeldecker. Yeah. I was like, I called him up and I'm like, yo man,

I'm in a pinch with throwing this CrossFit fundraiser. It's a two day fundraiser and we don't have any sandbags. And he's like, oh, I'll send them to you. So he sends them to us, urban nights. Um,

the competition went off well. And then I call him. I'm like, Hey man, are you going to invoice me or what like what do i owe you and he was like are you going to use those sandbags for the kids and i'm like yeah they're at the kids crossfit gym he was like just keep them like oh wonderful and it's not like he couldn't use them right i mean that's fucking cool as shit this is great So all brand new. It was awesome. But where were we at?

So Murphy. So I kept asking Murphy for money. And he would just laugh. So actually, I should probably take it back. And before that, there was this guy named, I should have looked his name up. His name was Ben. He was a Green Beret. You know what I'm talking about?

Is he a Delta Force guy? Maybe. He kind of looks like me a little bit. White guy, bald head, worked at CrossFit. Yeah. Ben Allen. Ben Allen. So our guy. Big dude. Yeah. He was a Delta Force guy. Yep. Our guy, Justin, knew a guy that was close to him through the SO from the SF community. And that guy, Ben, was like, hey, I got you a meeting with this guy, Josh, but you have to him through the SO from the SF community. And, and that guy, Ben was like, Hey, I got you a meeting with this guy, Josh, but you have to come to the games. So me and,

and our president of our board, who is a Delta guy, we fly out to the games. They get us in for free and they put us up in the, you know, that VIP booth that's up above the field. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah yeah yeah yeah what year was this oh man maybe 2018 yeah i'm sure i saw you there and we're up in vip met murphy next thing i know they're flying us out to headquarters and uh maybe headquarters is in 2019 then did you meet greg there at the games yes well no i so i didn't meet him at the games when i went to headquarters i walked out into the back and i spotted jim and jeff and in my head i'm like i want to meet those guys and then i hear hey adam hey adam and i'm like who the that can't be yelling for me. And I'm looking the other way, seeing if there was another guy named Adam and Greg was yelling my name.

And he was standing there by the fire pit. And so I walked over there. I'm like, you know my name? He was like, yeah, man, I studied. I look, see who you were and, you know, love what you're doing. So, you know, they flew us out there on their dime, gave us hotel food and gave us a check for 20K. there on their dime gave us hotel food and gave us a check for 20k dude that by the way for anyone like that's the those are the stories that should be told about greg that's the kind of fucking guy he is a guy who would just yell at someone who he doesn't know call him over shoot the shit with

them make eye contact shake their hand he probably gave you a hug too yep i mean i didn't know i mean of course i knew who he was but right why would I suspect that that guy knows who I am? Because he looked me up. That's why, you know, and he, he got to know who I was and, you know, we had a great conversation. 2019 in Madison. Yeah. And, you know, I've been going to the games every year just, you know, just because I met so many people at the companies. So, you know, I mean, I don't really care to watch all these athletes compete, but I just go to mingle with the vendors. Yeah. Yeah.

I think that's smart. I think it's smart. It's a great scene there. And I bring kids. Yeah. And they probably love that shit. Well, then the people, they're tired of talking about they're tired talking to me so i'm like talking to the kids the kids are like the kids are like these people are crazy where did you bring us yeah

that's awesome uh yeah so so this going back to this place, so this place here, 110 kids, you're building two more places. And it is as successful as it is. It is kind of I don't want to say month to month, but it's a year to year thing. It's a thing that it's a thing. You have to hold this thing together. Right. Well, hey, we build a non-profit in the beginning it was like building business you know five year mark right so we build it build it me justin the delta dude we're doing the grants we're doing the accounting you know we're doing the coaching eventually we make enough money it's like hey let's contract this grant writer

so we get this ninja grant writer for a thousand bucks a month and she's writing a hundred thousand dollar grant and then we get an accountant right now i'm just some meathead sitting in the room with these two ninjas one of them's an accountant one of them's a grant writer and they love this stuff and i hate it and i'm like well now we're cooking right because now we got a half a million dollars in the bank and we're projected to have over a million next year. And that's because, you know, the our grant writer, she's like, hey, you need to go sit outside the legislative hall outside the senator's office and tell them what you are and what you do at exactly 1230 on this day. And I'll put on my little Lululemon College shirt, walk down there and I'll hustle the senator. And they love it. Right?

Did you bring any of the kids with you? I have. We rolled up there with five kids. I put them all in nice little college shirts with the label on it. And we rolled up right in the governor's office. Yeah, that's cool. I think that's smart, right? Because then they can see, hey, this is the fucking product.

This is what you're spending money on right here. These these are the cats that are going to benefit from it no doubt go ahead it's just better coming from their mouth than mine right kids don't lie you think you save lives adam absolutely yeah yeah there's i've definitely disrupted multiple shootings in that neighborhood god that must feel fucking good i fucking love that i mean there's like i can just see it unfolding right and it's like all right well i know so-and-so's mom that we had this one situation this kid he stole a car so the mom calls me and she's like adam uh you know my son stole the car and this gangbanger just called me said he's gonna come by and shoot the house up.

And I'm like, her name's India too. And I'm like, India, you did nine years in jail. I did seven. I said, you got the dude's number. Let's three-way him. Yeah. We three-wayed the gangbanger. We were like, hey man, we know you used to steal cars when you were a little kid too.

I said, have a little sympathy. He's freaking 16. He stole your car. Relax. And he was like, you know what? You're right. I just need my cell phone back. I don't even care about the car. And the cell phone was in the car. Yeah. So we got the cell phone out and we gave it back to the gangbanger. And that's all. Did you drive it to him or did she? He came over to the, to the neighborhood and we, and that boom problem solved. Right. And the United States attorney loves hearing stories like that, because what could have happened from that is that gangbanger comes out,

you know, the story comes over shoot. Maybe he misses everybody. Now there's retaliation. And then you got this war. And a baby gets killed in the mother's arms. Yeah. I know the story. And it has happened. Right. On the other end, I know the story. five bucks to this kid to get some shower shoes you know because i still want that i'm like listen man yeah you're in prison i'm disappointed but i still love you i'm not going to condemn you i'm going to send you a cd i sent the kid a cdl book dropped off 25 bucks what's a cdl book like a book on to get his uh commercial driver's license to drive a big rig oh oh oh to while he's in jail to earn that study the book while you're in

jail and when you get out we'll take it to the dmv and you could be you know driving a dump truck or something do you spend a lot of time in your car adam uh driving yeah i would say yeah probably like eight to ten hours a week yeah which, I kind of like because on my way down there, I'm like planning the day on how to finagle all these personalities and relationships. And then on the way home, I can kind of decompress. So I don't bring all that junk back home to my wife. Yeah. I still do sometimes, but most of the time i can release it on the on the ride home how did you meet her a wild story so i met the girl in high school um she's the only girlfriend i ever had meaning like i had a girlfriend for three years and it was her three

or four years and it was her and there was girls before her whatever but and then she when i graduated college she uh she had enough right and she was like i i love you but i cannot deal with what you do like you scary for her yeah and you know just staying out for days on end drinking drugging you know, never knowing if I was going to wake up in a jail cell or in a ditch. So she left. And then so I'm 22. She's gone. I get locked up and I'm 27. For those five years, we stayed in contact, but very, very loose. When I go in jail, I call her sister. when I go in jail, I call her sister and her sister was like, you know, she's going through a rough time. She's kind of confused. Like you're going to get a lot of time. She seems like she's not doing that good. And, you know, me being arrogant, I was like, well, that's because the girl's still in love with me. And her sister was like, you are a real piece of work. And I'm like, well, that's because the girl's still in love with me. And her sister was like, you are a real piece of work.

And I'm like, well, it's true. It's true. And, you know, so I would write these letters to her sister that she would give to her, but she wouldn't. I didn't know her address. And and then fortunately, she came to visit me. I said, I'm reading the Bible. She said, don't you dare use Jesus to get back with me. I was like, oh, okay. Too late. I already did. Right. And she kept coming to visit me.

And eventually the dude she was dating was no more. And she was living with a roommate and then she ended up moving in with her mom. And over the course of six or seven years, so she had started going to church too. And, uh, so she was going to church. She had a little women's group and then we were slowly didn't label our relationship,

but we just kind of just kept talking and, and, you know, we, I think we both kind of knew. And then when i got out of prison she picked me up and uh we got married six months later oh shit you got out of prison like in the movies like you walk out they open the door and you walk out and she's there yeah like in a

car yeah is it winter yep it was january 19th 2014 did. Did you cry? No. No. I was, I mean, it was, it was, it was a great moment. You know, I mean, I just was like emotionalist. You know, there was like, I think from doing lots of drugs and alcohol, I've become, you know, and seeing so much and dealing with so much, you's hard for me sometimes to show my emotion. I try to put that tough exterior up even though I'm a little baby on the inside. That was it? You hung out with her and then you've been hanging out with her ever since? Yep. We got married June 24th. I got out January 19th, 2014. We got married June 24, 2014, and we're still thugging out.

Married. It's crazy how much you guys have seen each other evolve as humans, creatures. Yeah. The journey, like, wow. humans creatures yeah the the journey like wow you're really lucky um that's gonna as you get older and older it's gonna it pays dividends i'm a little bit older than you i'm nine years older than you but my girlfriend's from when i was 20 not as far back as you but it's just crazy it's so good having a historical record i mean it's we're not even the same people it's like we're it's like it's just crazy. It's so good having a historical record. I mean, we're not even the same people. It's like we're – it's fucking just completely – we are, but we're not.

It's weird. So you can see this. So this is pretty crazy. This – can you – where can you see this? Yeah, yeah. So see, that was me. Wow. Holy shit.

That's some Tiger King shit. Wow. And this is her wow holy shit dude i had like hair down here and she's uh i mean she's a dime and uh that's crazy yeah i don't know what are her was her dad in jail or something? Why is she attracted to you? So her parents were divorced. You know, that's easy, right? Her parents were divorced.

Mine were divorced. So we had that common. Her mom, you know, kind of, you know, she didn't have too much discipline. I mean, she had a little sister little brother uh so we had that common and that was easy you know both from broken families her dad's a good guy man he's he's a pretty stand-up guy i mean you know they had their marital issues they got divorced and that left her you know you don't and same thing with the girls right now you don't have a man telling you you're beautiful this is how another man should treat you yeah then you meet a guy like me yeah

man uh i i divorce just sounds so fucking horrible uh congratulations for just working so long and it seems like you understand the the value of uh relationships i i just can't i i just thank my fucking every day i'm so thankful that i'm still with my wife every fucking day it's crazy it's work it's work it is work it is work but the the other option is just loneliness or just horrible. Like, I don't know. I don't really know too many happy people who it seems like when people get divorced, they kind of just get lost. Yeah.

To me, it's like they try to fill the vacuum with all kinds of other stuff. I mean, with, you know, with my wife, it's like, so her personality is much different to mine. And in the beginning, it's like, you know, we had the premarital counseling and all that good stuff. And, but it was like, I had to learn when you got out of jail. Yeah. I had to learn how to feed her emotions. Like I couldn't like when I'm, for instance, when I'm'm sick i want her to just be like toughen up and this is how we're gonna fix it yeah versus and then i i will portray that on her like you

just need to get better and she's like that's not how i operate don't be a pussy go for put on a jacket and go for a walk right she doesn't want that right she wants and not because she's a woman i mean i know some guys like this too for sure it's just different yeah it's just different you know they just got a different type personality it's like oh man you're sick i'm so sorry poor baby you know and she's like i know you're being a joker right now but it feels really good and i'm like okay it's the best making your mate happy isn't it and then like we both have a little bit of controlling in us so the counselor was like this is easy you're going to control something and she's going to control something and you need

to come up with that so boom it's like in the beginning was like well you're in control of decorating the house and the temperature of the house and now i mean i had to kind of regain control of the temperature because it's got to be cold at night but i control the temperature for sure but these little things you turn the heat off at night or you lower it to like 60 60 oh yeah that's what i do too i just lower it to 60 the only reason why i don't turn it off is because i'm always curious if it does get it's not because i care if it gets 59 i just want to know like out of my own just interest of metrics holy shit did it really get down to 59 in here yeah so i like to i like to hear it go on um you how what's the plan adam for um the future of the Green Beret Project? Where does it go?

So we're getting stronger every day, meaning our budget's getting bigger. We're getting more recognized by different foundations. And, you know, it's like, hey, we had a kid when he was 12 and now he's 19. I met a kid when he was 15, now he's 23. So we actually have four kids on our payroll right now. Crazy. So like train the trainer model. I tell these, I identify them.

I'm like, you are going to run the Green Beret Project in 10 years because I'm not going to be able to do it anymore. Right. We're going to train you up to do this. And we've been training kids up to do that. Long process. So we have another location. It's got a 13-acre farm with a CrossFit gym on it and an acre of crops.

And I don't know- Where's that? That's in the southern part of Delaware. And you guys bought that already? So actually it's a woman that we met. We helped her rent a garage space to coach kids. And then we helped her finish buying the farm. So it's her property,

but we coach 60 kids on that property. And she leads that. And I just deal with her resources. I'm like, I can't, I don't have the emotional bandwidth to deal with another 60 kids. So you're going to do all that. And I want you to not worry about, you know, paying the bill, getting the CrossFit equipment, getting grants. I will do all that work for you.

So I'll just be this guy, this fun uncle dude. I'll come in once a month, chat with the kids, but I can't deal with the daily minutia with the kids. And then we are working on a third site in Wilmington. We have like 20 kids, and it's a jiu-jitsu program. Wow. Holy crap. We got three locations and I kind of could see us having a fourth location in Fayetteville by Fort Bragg,

because one of our board members is like transitioning out of the army. He's like 50 and he, he just has this heart for, for kids. He grew up in a rough situation. He had an awesome military career. And, like, he's the type of guy that we could – I mean, he just trusts him from the rip, right? Like, it's not – interesting thing. During the Floyd thing, I had, like, 20 different gyms call me

from all over the country. And they were like, we want to start a Greenberry project at our gym. And I'm like, no, you don't. No, you don't. You were watching the news, and you're feeling guilty. And now you want to coach a bunch of young black kids. I said, we're not out. Our mission wasn't to coach young black kids. We just happen to be in a neighborhood with a bunch of young black kids. Like we, at our most Southern location, it's like 90% Hispanic. And we have like two black kids there.

It's not about that. It's about coaching kids growing up in poverty without dads and and you want to start a green beret project i don't know you right and just into and from the other hand also to to reduce the murder fucking rate yeah right okay sorry i just want to say because i thought that was profound like we're here we're here to fucking reduce the murder rate yeah i mean it because i said call me back in a month not one of those people called me back no shit not one it wasn't trendy it wasn't trendy to adopt a kid from africa anymore it was just sexy during that time right to do that yeah yeah and you know to the murder rate thing it's like you know i had a bunch of people tell me oh you're making a bigger stronger faster criminal and i'm like you are out of your wow that's fucking retarded that's stupid

i had a lady from the correctional facility tell me she was like i took away all the boys exercise equipment and i said with all due respect that's the dumbest thing you could have did i said those boys are 14 to 18 years old and their testosterone is through the roof. And the other counselors were like, when Adam comes here every Monday, we have zero fights. And I said, that's because we're working out and we're having fun. And it's like their little piece of moment out of jail. I said, if we work these boys out every day and we trained them at some sport, maybe we do some chess, whatever, right? Man, these boys love it. They're just boys at the end of the day.

Dude, confident people don't do that. It's so crazy. I've had – I had friends years ago who didn't – I'm like, hey, you got to sign your kids up for martial arts. You got to get them into jiu-jitsu. And they're like, no, it's violent. I'm like, dude, there's not even – there's no fucking striking in it at all it's just fucking complete fucking discipline flash forward four or five years my kids have been in the kids that train in my kids jiu-jitsu class are the most disciplined patient confident calm

loving affectionate intimate kids ever the kids who aren't in the martial arts they look like jackasses compared to my kids and all those kids ever the kids who aren't in the martial arts they look like jackasses compared to my kids and all those kids in the academy what it's like they're they're out proving themselves yeah these other kids are proving themselves on the uh it's so they're so different kids with confident versus kids it's not who are not are you in trouble no my wife's asking for the honda thing now you have to say i knew you drove a honda dang hey well that's all right i drive a suburban oh i thought for sure i just pictured you in a civic putting in like 20 hours a week behind the wheel so we we do have a civic but yeah she's hot by the way

what a looker. Congratulations. She looks like a Charlie's Angel, like she fell out of the 70s. She's a good-looking girl. She's from Oklahoma. Oh, and they make beautiful women there. Good state. I drive a 2003 Suburban with 270,000 miles on it. Gas or diesel?

Gas. Holy shit. I need something I can tow the gas-cutting trailer with eight seatbelts in it all at once. You think her friends, you walk in the room and her friends are like, damn, you got to look at her. Adam's hot. I don't know. I got a butt chin, you know, awkward sometimes. I know something about Oklahoma.

I've been to Oklahoma. I've been to Oklahoma. I've been there. Hey, ironically, that's where Waddell lives too, right? Yep. Yeah. I haven't been out to see him. I want to get out there. He's like, oh, I'm in the garage with the cows.

Man, I love that guy. I'm going to be with him in person next week. I can't wait. It's just fun being around that guy because we're even talking. I agree. Because you're always picking up little leadership tips or even other relationship tips. And he always knows a guy somewhere yeah i really enjoy him and martone um yeah i spent a lot of time with him and we've it's and there's a lot of comedy too

yeah yeah they're pretty funny guys oh man when jim found out on saturday night jim found out i played pickleball oh man he just couldn't stop laughing at me. I'm like, I don't care, man. It's fun. I'm like, you know, I don't have cows in my backyard. I live in the city, man. So this thing will just keep growing. You'll just keep growing this thing.

That's the intention? I mean, the intention is eventually it's going to be self-run through some of the boys or the girls that went through the program. Yeah. I got kids on payroll. They're already coaching up little kids. I got 15-year-olds coaching 12-year-olds, and I got 12-year-olds coaching up 6-year-olds. Right? We're all just kind of growing as a family together.

What do you think about this model that Dale King has where the actual the the people who are rehabilitating themselves actually run a business also that makes money what ends up becoming the model so this thing's self-sustaining that these people actually open a gym that becomes open to the public where people actually like pay some money or what with dale's operation with your op with dale's operation they're selling soaps and in in hygiene products right but with your at some point, like in the future, do you guys like these four kids? Eventually, will they be trainers that are charging people to train also and that will subsidize? You know, like something like Tom's or something. For every pair of shoes you buy, we give away one free gym membership.

For every gym membership you buy, we give away one free one or some shit like that. I mean, I want those kids to go off and live life. Right. Right. Okay. Right. Right. One of the kids is a senior in high school. He gets out of school every day at 1030. I'm like, Hey man, you're not going to go home and sit on your butt. You're going to report to the, to the building. You're going to clean the toilets, cut the grass, do the mopping, listen to me yell and get used to it yeah and then and then we'll take you back to lacrosse practice that kid just got accepted to williamson college of the trades where they they pay 109 000 for him to learn carpentry for three years oh that's awesome go go get out of here and live life a little bit right yeah yeah yeah i love that fuck that's brilliant dude that's fuck being stuck in a gym your whole life get out and do some shit

maybe not go to prison and get your experience there, but something. And like the other kid, he worked for us and then we put him in the National Guard. And he's like, he was like, you didn't tell me I was going to get deployed. And boom, that kid's in Qatar right now. I'm like, you're living a sweet life. You're not paying for nothing. You're 19 and you're living in qatar we got another kid he's 20 he's actually 26 he uh so he was working for us graduated college went to national guard went became a correction officer he's in kuwait and he's he just got accepted to be a surveillance guy at the f. Boom. Wow.

Like, we don't want you to work at this gym. I don't want you to work with me forever. Right. Maybe at some point you will come back, right? When you go live your life, maybe you come back when you're 35, 40. I mean, half these dudes, they're going to be retiring at 38, 40 years old because they're in the military and the corrections field. I'm like, go do that for 20 years. So when you come back, when you're 40, we don't have to pay you a full, full salary. Yeah.

So, you know, we don't know exactly how we're going to get there. We're building a camp in West Virginia right now. And I have this crazy idea that I want to build a ropes course. There's a guy I know in North Carolina that's running a boys academy, and he makes $100,000 a year on his ropes course, and he makes $25,000 a year on his cabin's Airbnb. And I'm like, I can do that. We got somebody in West Virginia willing to run a camp.

We take the kids down there, do free whitewater rafting, and then we make all our money off the ropes course. I love that. Yeah year was 18 people. We got 18 G's. Second year, we had 160. We raised around 57 G's. So I called Go Rock. Fortunately, you know, Jimmy Letchford's over there now. Yeah. Jimmy Waddell knows Jimmy Letchford. I'm like, call. I've met Letchford a couple of times. I'm like, call him up, man. Another great guy. Great guy. He's like, hey, man, how about we just help you throw this? I'm like, yeah, you guys are pros. I'm an amateur. Why don't you help me throw this rock in order for us to raise more money?

So now we got all this money coming in. We got a golf event. We got a car show. We got the rock and we got a CrossFit event. So that's through that. We've raised over 200K in one year. Plus our grants, right? Grants will come and go it's it's about

the people like you know raising your own money and and finding out how to be self-sufficient like through the soap you just you got to be creative with it dude you're killing it man well thank you for coming on um what about people reaching out to you? I know, I know Schindeldecker's taken a lot of, Matt Schindeldecker's taken a lot of requests. He's doing something pretty cool over there. What about people reaching out to you and wanting to be involved? Are you open to that? people all the time but you know it just became a point where if it happens it happens if we stay in delaware for the rest of the life of the greenberry project then that's just what it's meant to be if we've i think i have a feeling our first branch out are going to be the new river gorge in west virginia and fayetteville because we already have strong ties to both but you know someone's like hey man i was an sf and and not that sf is a requirement but you know, someone's like, hey, man, I was an SF and not that SF is a requirement, but, you know, I mean, a goal would be, hey, there's a veteran. Right. And there's a juvenile delinquent and they both kind of need help.

Right. This guy, you know, he just lived this exciting life. He needs a sense of purpose because the Army provided that for him. He was mission oriented and we need to keep him mission oriented and maybe it's saving 10 kids lives. Right. Right. So that would be, I mean,

that would be an awesome situation or maybe we meet another ex offender or maybe we meet neither, but they just have a heart for this type of mission, you know? Yeah. Cause it's hard. It's, I mean,

you're dealing with personalities, moms, cussing me out all the time, all the time. mission you know yeah because it's hard it's i mean you're dealing with personalities moms cussing me out all the time all the time i had a mom call me and say if you don't pay my electric bill the kids aren't coming over anymore no shit it was hot i was i was ready to freak out so i called justin i'm like listen man you need to talk me off the ledge right now because i really love those kids but the mom is driving me crazy so it's like the easy thing to do is to say. Hey, imagine that mentality. And so at the end of the day, she's just being a mama bear.

She's trying to protect her 10 kids with seven different baby dads. Right. Wow. And it's July. I love her kids. I love her at the end of the day. And Justin said, listen to here. He said, when I was in Iraq, we built a 300 man Iraqi cadre with 12 soldiers. And those people did

not like us. They had different skin tone, different religion, different language. And they did not like us, but we went over there and we loved them. We built relationships with them, but we had to pay the warlords to save the townspeople he was like you're gonna pay that electric bill to save those kids the mom's the warlord and the kids are the town yeah yeah and and you know what i have a great relationship with her now but sometimes we're still like i mean like this you know she she grounded her kid from the football season for not washing the dishes and i'm like this is not smart yeah but hey man you got to just play the relationship every day and it's a it's a balance fuck i i appreciate you coming on you're you're uh as

marvelous as jimmy waddell told me uh you would be it's really cool meeting you and i suspect our paths are going to cross it sounds like we have a lot of the same friends and i still do see jimmy once in a while periodically at least a couple times a year yeah that'd be cool if we could uh i can come out one day and uh or so on your one last thing on your uh on your on your website it it says you film movies in 49 states. Is that one state, Delaware? No. You know, I've been to I've been to every single I film. I don't know if I film movies and I've filmed movies in 100 countries and I visited all 49 states.

I wonder if I filmed in all 49 states. That's a really interesting distinction. But the only state i haven't been to is alaska uh so where were you at in delaware i don't even remember right i don't even remember i i i i i spent uh um um uh like four months in india once i couldn't tell you where i was i just know i was everywhere i was on 27 plane flights i'm not i'm not uh i'm not too uh good with that yeah um what's the case what's the capital delaware dover dover i think i was probably in dover for some i've been up there a couple times for crossfit it was something to do with crossfit and then one time my dad and i drove there i bet you you were at dover crossfit i dover cross it

it's very it's very possible. That's that guy's gym that's been around. He's had a gym, CrossFit gym, since 2006. Text Seve anytime. He's predicting what I say to people at the end of the show. That's what I say to people at the end of the show. Go ahead. Text me anytime.

I do. That one guy that was on last week uh brett pike brett pike yeah i bought one of the nutrition books i'm still reading through some of his other stuff to make sure i can uh bring that bring some of that stuff into uh our youth center but uh yeah tell me how stay in touch with me and tell me if you end up working with him and what that's like i really like him he's fucking high energy he is passionate he's got i mean there are some things you were saying that that like i teach a lot of critical thinking and i would teach coaches you know because these kids are facing situations we can't be there all the time it's like the new fda thing they're like take that as bible it's like, that's just not smart though. Right. Think through it to any of my kids. And they were like, what do you mean?

And I said, I said, look, man, that kid eats sugar for breakfast, lunch and dinner. And he acts like a maniac. And then he wonders why the mom and dad wonder why they can't sleep. They're depressed, anxious, all this crazy stuff. Yeah. Because I said, what if you ate sugar and processed food for three days? And she just looked at me and I'm like, well, don't give my, any of my kids, any of that stuff. They know damn well in seven years, all the times we've ate and I'm like, well, don't give my any of my kids any of that stuff.

They know damn well in seven years, all the times we've ate, I've never given them soda. I mean, yeah, we'll eat a pizza every once in a while. Birthday cake. I mean, come on. Sure, sure, sure. But on the on the regular, they're like, look, look, Kramer, is that fake food? They all make fun of me for it. but I'm like, well, you know. Hey, that's good. I mean, education is like – education fucking gets you to the 51-yard line. There's all sorts of stuff my mom taught me that I laughed at as a kid, but now I'm so glad she taught me because I just implement it in my life. Train a kid up in the right way, and it's like a seed planted.

Right, right. I would have – yeah. Well, good on you. Great interacting with you. As as as Tug Speedman said, text me anytime. Text Seve anytime. All right. Well, do.

Yeah, it's good. It's good to know you. And I hope our paths run again across soon. If there's ever anything you want to come on and talk about or share, just hit me up. I'd love to have you on again. All right. We'll on again. All right. We'll do that. All right,

brother. Have a good day. Yep. Bingo. Yeah, that's a cool dude. I mean, Hey,

tug. I haven't used this one in a while. I'd take that dude as a neighbor. How's that? I haven't used that one in a while. A couple hundred that dude as a neighbor. How's that? I haven't used that one in a while. A couple hundred shows at least I'd say. Yeah. I'd take that dude as a neighbor for sure.

That dude would be a cool ass neighbor to have. I'd even play some pickleball with him. I bet you I'm pretty good at that. Oh my God. I'm kind of tripping right now. Cause. I'm doing this show tonight with um with brian friend on on frisbee golf and uh he'll watch them like on one half one 1.5 speed but i mean that's gonna be a lot all right

his his uh adam's wife kind of looks like the um All right. Adam's wife kind of looks like the, just from that quick look at her, it looks like the governor of South Dakota. You know that lady? What's her name? The South Dakota governor. Yeah, the problem is with 2.0 speed is I have to take notes, and if you play too fast, it up like um backfiring on me because then i gotta rewind it and it yeah there's there's a happy

medium i sold out of the first run of ceo mugs that's awesome where is mine oh his best coffee ever my god this coffee's good all right no i'm not ready i'm not even ready at all what happened was is the shows happened this weekend and then so then they do synopsis of the show of this um that i have to watch like two and a half hours of frisbee golf it's it's like it's probably like 72 hours of frisbee golf that'll be like condensed into uh two and a half hours. And I have to go watch that now while playing with my kids while riding the assault bike. Anyway,

I'm up for it. I'm excited. I'm always excited to do stuff with Brian. It'll be fun. It'll be funny. If he, especially if he's in a good mood when he's in a good mood, those shows are hanging out with him is awesome.

All right. Yeah, that's a good question. Gabe, are you going to have some bigger cups? Like, will there be any ones like this? Oh, shit. Ones like this. This size. That's a good question.

I mean, this logo is dope i can't believe i'm not like a millionaire off of these shirts already i just think this i just love it especially the black ones with the gold writing my kids fucking love them uh glad you had adam on he's doing great things great show thanks okay for some of my my internet friends texting me already oh man the the you know what's crazy i want to hear something really crazy that show that i did with so when i used to do shows with chris cooper at crossfit they didn't do really well in terms of numbers chris cooper's the guy who owns two brain business that's the largest gym consulting company

in the world and uh oh paper street coffee devesh yes we will we will have larger cups uh during semifinals okay well i'm excited um and uh the logo is dope thanks yeah i love it i love it thanks brandon thanks audrey um so so when we had chris cooper on but we would get shit loads of engagement at crossfit meaning there would be shit tons of comments and shit, the tons of DMS and people have questions for Chris Cooper, like more than any other show. It would have the most engagement, but the fewest number of viewers.

And it's because what he was saying didn't probably interest a lot of people unless they owned a CrossFit gym, but the people who did own CrossFit gyms, obviously were really passionate, had a lot of questions and wanted to engage on the topic, right? Cause it's their livelihood. So you see that what's going on there well we had him on i don't know if you guys

remember this a couple weeks ago we had chris cooper on and we pulled up those spreadsheets and we like made hypothetical gyms just i wanted to show people how expensive it is to run a gym so that you would realize that hey these gym memberships these gym owners aren't gouging you when they're charging you 100 200 300 400 for a membership they're trying to fucking keep pay the bills anyway so he was on that show now that we did with him is i think the most popular show we've done in 90 days i think maybe the show we did one of the one of the shows we did with rich froning i think was more popular than the one we did with chris cooper but only one of them and we've done two with rich froning i think was more popular than the one we did with chris cooper but only one of them and we've done two with rich which is pretty fucking crazy that means that that that's a subject that people uh give a shit about i don't i don't i i don't think it's healthy um for well i don't

know if healthy is the right word i don't think crossfit inc for, well, I don't know if healthy is the right word. I don't think CrossFit Inc., you've already given up the space of the games narrative. That's just owned by, not by CrossFit Inc. And you don't want to give up the narrative around the affiliates, man. If those shows start becoming, and I've done one a week for quite a bit now. And you guys better figure out what you're doing over there.

And I'm just quietly over here chipping away. Actually, maybe not even quietly. Did Theo Vaughn call? I'm looking at a YouTube comment. No, Theo Vaughn didn't call. That was a joke. Okay.

Uh, I'll see you guys tonight. Um, Bruce Wayne, uh, I don't own a gym and I found, uh, and found out it was fascinating.

And what I found out was fascinating okay I don't know what time the show is tonight I want to say it's scheduled for 6 but I'm gonna suspect that I'm gonna push it back to 6 15 there's a good chance because I'll have my kids at jujitsu till five 30.

I need at least 30 minutes to get home and then 15 minutes to kind of unfuck myself. Oh, what sounds awful? Oh, talking about Frisbee golf. Yeah, it's I'm,

I'm learning to like it. The thing is, uh, Scott, I'll watch two and a half hours. And so I'll be invested. And I'll have all sorts of questions for him. Oh, it's scheduled for 630?

Oh, even better. You guys are great. Perfect. Okay. Tugs Biedman, enjoy your salt bike, Seve, and buh-bye.