The Sevan Podcast - Arielle Loewen & Dale Saran

Episode Date: July 3, 2024

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You're sitting there stirring your oatmeal. Basically. I don't want to eat this stuff. I know. Sometimes in the morning, I either wake up hungry or I wake up not hungry, and then I still have to eat because I need fuel. So it's just like. Were you kind of really dreading eating that just now?

Yeah. I can't believe I got that. I saw you looking down at your food like, oh, spinach. Not again. No, it's actually really good. It's cottage cheese, pancake, and strawberries. Oh, yum. Yeah.

It's just I'm not, like, ready to eat yet, so it doesn't sound too appealing yet. Gotcha. Hey, what about, do you ever come up with reasons why you shouldn't eat it? Like, you're like, okay, I'll just work out. And then you're like, no, I have to eat this. It's more like at this time of the season, I have to eat it because in like three hours, I'll work out and I need something to get me through it. I wonder if it's just me, but I want to say it's not me.

I wonder if people can even relate to that. You know who actually told me they can is Amanda Barnhart. well yeah but she's another athlete though right true yes you're saying non-athlete yeah non-athlete like i hear that so often from the athletes oh man it's so hard getting food in and i feel like the rest of us are like dude i'll like i'll always eat whenever, however, just feed me. Yeah, exactly. Like it's so funny because Sunday was rest day and Sunday I could eat everything in the house. But for some reason, like when Monday and Tuesday and Wednesday and Thursday hit, my appetite was just kind of like, oh, hey, do you sense the games are on the calendar already? Ariel?

No, not yet. For me, I'm very like playing week by week. I still have, this is my week of deload. I have four more hard weeks and then a deload and then it's game time. So I feel like I still have work to do before the final presentation. Tell me if I'm wrong, but this is more more specifically what i what i mean and you may know this already you may have answered it but i'm guessing as you get closer to the games you get more uh you go more inside and you start to get more controlling like i just see i just

imagine like being a ufc fighter so i'm guessing like as it gets closer to the games you're like okay um the washing machine has to be empty the night before in case I have to wash something last minute. Don't touch that bag over there. Is the house clean? I don't really have time for that conversation. That things just start like changing. How do you know this? I'm just guessing. I'm just guessing. Right. It's like another thing. Like I used to see that always with Greg, but about an hour before he would go up to speak, like if he was going to speak in front of 500 people, he would just change, right? Or it's like, it used to be like that for the podcast for me. Not anymore, but 30 minutes before a podcast would start, I would start doing it in my head. And so if my wife tried to talk to me, there was no way because I was already on the

podcast. I was gone already. Yeah, totally. Like I have my laundry days. Yeah. I have my grocery shopping days. I have my days I'm cooking. Yeah. And this is funny. Dylan's ready to go to make love at any hour, any time of the day. That's how I perceive him. That's how I perceive him. But during games training, I'm like, hey, it's not between 9 a.m. and 10 p.m. Yeah. Like, I either need to go to bed or I need to wake up and start getting ready for the day. So, like, during games training, I'm like, this is my schedule. These are my hours.

I'm open. Other than that, like, I either need to go to bed or I need to do this. Let me write that down. Dylan Lohan and luckiest man alive No, but it's just like setting expectations. It's not you you're beautiful. It's yes. I'm exhausted Yeah, yeah, I mean fair fair. Um, so no so intimacy during games week is out too No, I actually perform better. But some people it is. We'll have funny conversations

with people like the Rolfs. It's off the table until after. But for us, it's like, I think it helps. I heard a podcast of Ronda Rousey that she was like better. It kind of just depends on the person. Wow. Dylan seems like a very happy man yes i had this i had this friend in college and he was he was a virgin was he happy no

he was a world-class asshole i knew him for like five years i think i think his name was pete I knew him for like five years. I think his name was Pete. Pete. Yeah, no, it was not me. But his name was Pete. And during that five years I know him, there was one one-month period where he had a girlfriend and he wasn't an asshole. Oh. And then when she went away, he was an asshole again that'll happen my question so as it gets closer though like the week before you start it's almost like i'm picturing it's kind of like nesting i would say since june i've been nesting like making sure the house is ready mentally i know i can't handle more than one

podcast a day because like that takes up too much of my time you know so just like prioritizing that's what i like to say boundaries and prioritizing and what is the training look like now it's it's not too ridiculous it's just 11 till about 2 30 and then all i know it's a lot and then you do it with homeboy here you do it with the um uh the old guy what joelle joelle yeah so he's there for about an hour of it he's there um i'd say 11 to 12 30 and then i'll do my strength stuff by myself okay by the way he's looking he's looking really buff too like the games training's getting him like in crazy shape i mean he looks yoked so he he literally is the fittest he ever is whenever i leave go to the games because that's when the fittest i am right our seasons don't

match up so when the open comes around it's a whole different joel than it is you know august when the games hit but i I mean, he's great. He's just trying to look good to go swim in. He's like, I don't care if I PR my open or PR or whatever. He's just there to throw down and dance. Yeah, that's awesome. So he, so because the training changes and you're on your training schedule, he gets fitter also he peaks for the games. Yeah. And it's funny because we'll run together so like one of the intervals will be a 400 meter run come in do some stuff whenever he comes in and does stuff he might tweak it a bit so that way he can be fresh to hit the 400 meter run because

i'm running it faster because it's game season so now he's running a 400 meter faster he just might need a little bit more rest than i do, but he's, he's peaking. He'll be peaking whenever I'm peaking too, because we're just doing the same thing. I used to train with this guy and we would do that all the time. So there would be, I can't remember the workout, but the one I really specifically remember was it was, it was, uh, I think it was a girl workout and it had 800 meter runs in it i want to say five of them and then it had ghds and deadlifts or something i wouldn't do the ghds and deadlift i would just wait on the track oh you know training partner yeah and then i would just run the 800 as fast as i could and just talk shit to him the whole time you know what i mean

but it also worked good for me too because you have no excuse to lose right so then for me it just becomes a great 800 meter interval training session but we used to do that a lot i mean i used to do that a ton with him would you dust him no really you know who it is who it what who it is too um the guy's still around i think he has a huge instagram account now he was like like 6'7". His name was Carl. And he's the guy who draws the figures for the workouts. Someone will say it in the chat. And then I'm at the weight room at UC Berkeley. Carl.

Anyway, I can't remember. Someone will say it in the chat or Caleb will pull it up. It works great, right? Do you like that? It works great, right? Oh, it's great.'s no not carl not carl powley this guy's like 300 000 followers caleb he um whiteboard something yeah yeah augustus link has it it's like something whiteboard uh eagleman yeah eagleman cool no games athletes are very selfish i mean mean, I know I'm one of them. So like it's about me.

It's about me getting fitter, me going faster. So Joel is great because he tries to make me the best. So if that means during one of his intervals, he's helping me chalk up the bar, he'll do it. Yeah, this guy, the Whiteboard Daily guy. I was so bummed. And he probably loves it because he knows he's getting fitter too. I was so bummed when this guy moved away from California. This guy was my best training partner ever.

It was awesome. You don't have one now, do you? No. And my wife used to be my training partner. More and more, my kids are becoming my training partner. Last week, I did a clean and jerk workout with the boys, and I've done some thruster workouts. They're getting older, seven and nine.

But it used to be my wife. I always worked out with my wife, no matter what. And then we had kids, and that stopped. what age do you give them a barbell what age do they start lifting weights I took them over to um uh CrossFit which I think it's called it used to just be called West now it's CrossFit West uh Daniel J at four Avi started taking Olympic weightlifting classes really yeah and then what happened was um he I really liked the guy but when the Floyd 19 19 thing happened and COVID happened he went kind of the social justice warrior route and I just didn't want to be a part of that facility anymore and so I left um but he's amazing but I think now this other lady uh kara hipskin owns a crossfit gym on the west

side and i think i'm going to start organizing homeschooling olympic weightlifting classes because for all the kids we know are into sports and so olympic weightlifting i think will be great for just explosiveness not not to lift heavy weights but just to learn explosiveness yeah and body control yep and you know all my kids are naturals. Just from watching mom and dad, like the first time I ever told Avi to do a clean and jerk, even at four, he could do it. Like he knew. Stand up all the way. Open your hip. Come up on your toes a little bit.

Come back down. Catch it. Elbows up. I mean like it was perfect. Like you didn't even have to, you know. Yeah. I gave him a two and a half pound bar with the big five pound Aliko weights on them, like the ones that, you know, the plastic ones, you know, at four years old. Do you have good form?

I think I have amazing form. But the last time I put up a video of me, I did 10 power cleans with 135. This is like six months or eight months ago. And like, Sousa was like, hey, we got to work on that muted hip or some shit i was like what are you talking about i'm world class caleb pull up his clean i'm just kidding i don't even hey that account might be gone that account might be gone i don't even know where that account is i think we should let the people decide you should put up a poll on your instagram i'm an amazing mover i just it's just the way it is my air squats are perfect my pull-ups are i'm an amazing mover i can't i'm little i'm five five i'm just a yeah so i'm on a

straight form only with the uh with only the barbell no i do all sorts of shit good cool i actually two nights ago ordered blakeley's homeschooling stuff. Oh yeah. So I'm going to slowly start like looking it over. Cause I think when we get back from the games, most kids start school. So we might take a week off and then start, but I'm like, I guess that's one thing I should slowly start looking at. Um, let me show you this. Greg turned me onto to these. There's this whole company. It's called – let me see if I can find it in my orders. Orders. There's – Greg's basically not going to teach his kids anything besides math and English and diagramming sentences.

And everything else he's going to teach them is around critical thinking. And the books he found are insane. How are his kids um it's called the uh it's called the critical thinking company i'll show you i'll show you one of their books okay and he ordered he he ordered everything that they have k through 12 12, and he said it was like $3,700 for everything. But basically that's the name of the company, Critical Thinking Detective, and they have everything. They have math. They have algebra for little kids, and these books are awesome, and I got a shitload of them, and they're amazing. Give me an example. I don't even understand. So then basically… Give me an example. I don't even understand.

So to – great question. So instead of teaching them to memorize all the states and all the capitals, and they'll have to – and then through there, you'll pick out what you know are the facts or what things you're inferring. So it will teach them the word infer. Like are you just – do you know that that guy is guilty because he was there and the other two guys weren't there? So it will be like a detective story. A dog ate a cookie right and so it'll teach you like how do you know which dog ate the cookie and then you you infer that it's this dog because um the other two dogs were playing at the park but is it a fact no and so that would be a form of like just critical thinking and it and it really lays it out step by step from when you're

little you know from when you're kindergarten to when you're a senior and it gets more complicated and it has math involved and whatnot. And then diagramming senses is just completely understanding, uh, the English you teach them about diagramming senses, completely understanding the English language and all the pieces of it and what, and what they're, um, uh, what they're supposed to do, you know, like prep, all the prepositions, verbs, adverbs, conjunctive, just all that shit. It's awesome. And Hey, and what's crazy is I'm learning a shitload. Yeah. Oh my God. And it's so step-by-step about adverbs and pronouns and all. Yeah. Just all that crazy shit. It's so good. I highly recommend looking at this company, the critical thinking company. It makes me think of like eighth grade math word problems, which like takes me back from.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Not in a good way. Yeah, I understand. I understand. And his his seven year old is really proficient in algebra already. But how they teach it is awesome.

It's like with pictures and scale. but how they teach it is awesome. It's like with pictures and scale. So it'll be like a scale and you add things and subtract things to balance the scale as opposed to making it look like a math equation, but just basically, yeah, it's sweet. That is sweet.

I love that. And I do, and I do all my, I do cursive with the kids. So I got the kids like these just cursive books, you know, with the, the line.

And I just do, we just play around and do letters. We challenge ourselves to connect they love that shit and then i and i like right i like practicing my cursive too it's cool oh yeah you gotta practice my signature uh-huh you never know when you're gonna need it mine's a mess did you sign autographs at uh west coast um i maybe so signed a few at west coast not too many um but uh there wasn't too many people at west coast um i maybe so signed a few at west coast not too many um but uh there wasn't too many people at west coast unfortunately but my first year at the games i had a different signature than i do now because it looked so ugly so i went home and was like okay if i want to go back to the games again i have to have this sam briggs signature you ever seen hers? No. No. Isn't it nice? Okay. I actually can show you guys.

It's beautiful. I wonder if I can type in Sam Briggs autograph. Okay. If it pops up. I have a barbell that everybody signed that the game's my first year. Let's see where Briggs...

Tell me if you guys can see this is Sam Briggs. Oh, yeah. That's nice. Emily's is where Briggs. Oh, okay. Tell me if you guys can see this is Sam Briggs. Oh, yeah. That's nice. Yes. Emily's is nice, too. Is it? I mean, you can read it.

Mine, you would never know. If I sign something, you would never know it's my name. Like, Toomey's is cool. Look at that. Toomey's is beautiful. Yeah. Danny's is cool, I think, because it kind of flows. Does it say Tammy?

Oh, no, no. Yeah, yeah yeah Danny's is very nice too Yeah I see it You think Danny and Toomey Practice theirs? Tia's looks like very practiced I feel like you have to Like you want to be good at something you have to practice it right? Yeah

Yeah so I went home and practiced mine And now mine is all fancy too So Dylan must be good because he gets a lot of practice. His is like – I don't mean his signature. Nope, can't tell you that. Hey, has Dave contacted you? No, not yet.

I actually reached out to Dallin Pepper because it's like a mystery. I've heard he'll just randomly contact you you and you have 10 minutes to jump on. So I was like, Dallin, how did he contact you? And he said via email. So every day, morning, middle of the day and evening, I'm checking my emails to make sure I don't miss it. Yeah. Are you excited about it? I'm ready to do it and get it done with.

ready to do it and get it done with i don't honestly dave and me like aren't like i'll see him i'll say hi but that's all it's ever equated to i wouldn't say we're friends like i personally am a boz fan over dave just because i mean i had two years under boz's programming so i got to see him and know him a little bit more uh you're gonna love him you think oh my god he's so fun you know what i'm noticing about those are you ufc fan at all i'll only watch like big fights so not very much so they have these press conferences and dana white does them and if dana white doesn't do the press conference before the fight i don't really have any interest in it and i don't really know why but that's how i feel when i watch these interviews with dave I'm just curious to see Dave interact with these people. Well, you know what Dave's brought up so much?

Do you like cycling? Do you like riding a bike? And he'll mention hero workouts. And I'm like, he's either just making conversation or these are like little Easter eggs like Taylor Swift. God, I can't imagine there being cycling ever again in the games. That's what I was telling Dylan. And I was like, from a fan perspective, I feel like it's the most boring thing to watch because people ride by on a

bike or it's just 40 minutes of people going in a circle. Well, the truth, I think I'm speaking on behalf of all the viewers the truth is we just want to see crashes i mean i don't blame so um but but i just feel like it in years past it's shown that i mean the best guy i feel like the best guy always wins but i just feel like there's too many weird things that can happen with crashes and chains and all that shit. You ever had a bike incident? Um, no,

I don't believe I have. I've had a golf cart incident. I tell you that what happened last year? No, tell me. We, we got a golf cart and Blakely was learning how to drive the golf cart. And so you mean at your house here,

you have a golf cart and you, for your neighborhood. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. So Tuesday night, Dylan teaches her how to drive the golf cart. He tells it's your house here you have a golf cart and you for your neighborhood yeah oh okay yeah so tuesday night dylan teaches her how to drive the golf cart he tells me she's great she just takes sharp turns so they're working on that and so wednesday night we finish workout and we go to cool down just riding the golf cart around and it was blakely driving dylan in the middle me on the end how old is how old is she at this time she was four years old okay so about to get her driver's license yeah and we're driving 20 25 miles an hour and then out of nowhere she just turns left and i just like vividly remember being like okay we're going towards the mailbox and then

the next thing i know i'm just flying in the air and i just rolled on the floor and got like road rash all on my side you got tossed out tossed out on the asphalt did she cry oh yeah she was distraught Dylan said he had a moment where like I'm falling out Blakely's turning and driving and he's like who do I save and so he like helped Blakely control it and then came and checked on me but yeah no injuries I think it was like two weeks before the games, no injuries. You know, I could have twisted an ankle, busted my wrist, but nothing. Thank goodness. But the worst part is all this happens in front of our neighbor's house and they were outside and they just like saw it happen. And then just like walked inside.

I was like, okay, interesting. Either they didn't realize what happened or they were just like walked inside. I was like, okay, interesting. Either they didn't realize what happened or they were just like, let's get out of this. This is a disaster. Dude, that could have been viral. Too bad. I know. I could have been the next Hawk Tua. You know, you had a Hawk Tua moment.

I didn't at West Coast Classic. That was before the Hawk Tua girl the rip the pants no there was just it's it's in the it's in the behind the scenes oh we haven't seen it yet and um there's i come you and it's early in the morning and you and dylan are hanging out just there's no one around you guys are in the stadium and i'm telling telling dylan about how my penis touched some porcelain this morning in the bathroom and how disgusting it was and you're like hey you should just spit on it tell me to play it or you said oh yeah yeah watch this this is pre-hawk to a girl this was amazing when i saw this i'm like ariel's ahead of her time i don't even remember this yeah this is crazy i didn't what's funny is you can tell at the moment I didn't get it. It went completely over my head. Hey, why did you get a golf cart just to drive to the store? Why do you need a golf cart for your neighborhood?

we'll drive it there creep on the neighbors we have a little bit of land so we'll drive around the land we don't need one it was definitely a um last year i got fourth place in the open so it was like hey let's treat ourselves how much is a golf cart ours was five grand can you drive it on the street like legally no not legally so it's an expensive toy if you how where's the closest like restaurant how far from your house i would say five miles like if you drove it there um i would just say it's not safe blakely's gymnastics is less than half a mile away you have to get on a not safe road so it's just not ideal so it goes like 30 and there's cars doing 50 on it and so it wouldn't be safe shit like that yeah and there's no seat belts it's very open people can fall out easily if you turn fast yeah it's electric yes

so eventually you know we're building kind of like an affiliate behind our house. That will be legit if like the class coach, if I want to be like, okay, we're running a mile. I'm going to follow you guys in the golf cart. Oh, coaches in boating. They call that the coach's boat. Yeah. If needed, if somebody is like left out on the mile run, we can quick hop up, get them. You know, I love love it that's the justification for the five thousand dollar golf cart that's the justification that i can make it

a tax write-off for the business um troy martin i send my 13 year old uh to get mail in my truck so half a mile away oh that's cool that's a. You know that kid loves doing that. He lives in the country, though. I'm sure, right? Yeah. How is the gym coming? Last time I saw it, it was beautiful. It was amazing. It's still beautiful.

It's just really slow, unfortunately. We have the mats. We have the rig. We have basically all the stuff for the inside. I'm just waiting on the electrician, the drywall guy. We have the sauna. We have the cold tub. Basically Dylan has to do everything. We have the AC almost hooked up. It's just the AC doesn't work right now. So Dylan's like, man, I have to work all day in the hot sun and then come home and work in the sauna of the shop. He's just like not very

motivated to do it. Dude, that place looks amazing. It's beautiful. Do you have the sauna of the shop he's just like not very motivated to do it dude that place looks amazing it's beautiful do you have a picture of the outside it might be yeah isn't it pretty yeah yeah is the cold tub functional already yes and are you using it no um because why because you just don't want to deal with getting in cold water or? Dr. Amy Moore No. Cold plunging, whatever you call it, my body just doesn't do well with it. So I experimented a little bit with it before Rogue and it would almost make me overheat whenever I went to work out at 11 if I did it in the morning.

And then I got sick from it. Like it really weakens my immune system. So I just get sick really easily. So I've learned it does convert into a hot tub. So I use the hot tub part a lot in the winter, but my body just doesn't do well with a cold tub. And what about the sauna? Is the sauna functional not yet but soon hey i wonder if you go in that for 30 minutes and just get crazy hot and then go in the cold tub if that would be different i think i need to do a little bit more research on like progressively getting used to the cold tub because i'm mentally strong enough to do it for three minutes, like prescribed at the prescribed temperature, but my body's not ready for it. And that will be a place where also you'll train other people.

There'll be, I know originally when I talked to you, the idea was it would be a pretty exclusive, but now it sounds like it'll be a little more open. Yeah. So the example I use is that's CrossFit Mayhem and then also have the barn which is my garage so that's going to be for the people best experience if you're a member and that's just like all people focused and then I'll still have my garage gym which will be me don't talk to me in there don't ask to come join me in there unless I ask you but this this is open to you. That type of thing. How old was your daughter the first year you went to the games? Three or two. I think she was two.

Is it getting easier now that she's older or harder? Each year has its own challenges, but this year has been the easiest. I'd say mental wise, the first year was really hard because I was still at an affiliate that didn't have childcare. So it was like, Hey, I need you to help watch my daughter. I need you to help this. And now it's like, Hey, I work out from home. She's fine with colors and snacks.

I don't have to reach out to too many people, but the each stage gets harder. But this year it seems easy with her because she's so easy and flexible and i mean if she's got snacks and hanging out with me she's a happy girl is she coming to the games this year this is the first year she's asked to come in a dilemma because i personally don't think the crossfit games is for kids but she's asking to come. You mean like if you're the athlete? I mean, if you're the spectator, it's for kids for sure, right?

You think? I mean. It depends what your kid likes. Does your kid like to sit in a coliseum for, you know, eight hours a day? I think Blakely would go crazy, but she only wants to come because she loves hotels and pools. Yes. I'm like, what's the underlying? You want to go to a hotel with a pool?

Okay, the day after the games, we're going to go to Great Whip Lodge. Done. You'll like that way better. Right. She wants to come, but I know the reasoning behind it. What about the thought, you're not sure how many years you're going to compete and she needs to see mama out on the floor does that no no she doesn't give two f's if i'm on the floor or back state like what does she want she wants to go to a hotel with a pool yeah she doesn't care what i do if if you

did bring her you would have to bring someone who's the point man for her, right? Yeah. She would need her own person besides you and Dylan. And my mom could come. So I'm debating getting a day pass for Sunday so they could see the final day. If it's horrible, hey, it's only one day. Push through it. And then after that, we'll have some fun. Are you in Texas? Do you live in Texas?

So we're four hours away from Dickies. Oh, that's awesome. Oh, amazing. So we'll just load up the truck with whatever we need, drive there, don't have to worry about flights, anything. Already acclimated, all that fun stuff. What do you know about when the events are happening? Like, does it, do you know, does it start on Thursday? Like, do you know if you're competing on Thursday for sure? Yeah, I think it starts Thursday, Thursday to Sunday, but we do check in a day later. So we check in, we usually check in on

a Monday. We're checking in on Tuesday and I don't know what happens Wednesday and then Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday and then we're done. So conceivably they could surprise you and something could happen on Wednesday. Yeah, because we'll all be there. And that has happened before, right? Not in the games I've been a part of

but in previous years, I believe so. I feel like that there has been a games where they went on a Wednesday they took Thursday off oh yeah we usually do that or game Boz's first year that's how it was Wednesday and then we took Thursday off but it got rained out Wednesday so we had like a makeup workout that Thursday and that was the hardest games I've ever done because it was Wednesday Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday full jam-packed days and that was the year of the capital so just an extra extra whammy hey what do you think about uh this Abigail Domet girl showing up and winning the

West Coast semi-final were you shocked by that she performed really good one thing i noticed at the west coast semifinals i feel like not many people had bad events those were in the top so i think she was just the most consistent that weekend and did great yeah kind of weird to see her and uh and what about how do you can you were you surprised to see her in the mix yeah so i was expecting okay going into this competition i I'm watching Alex Kazan. I'm watching Emily Rolfe. You know, like the normal names you see. So, yeah, that did surprise me.

And she killed it. I mean, really, the top – I mean, everybody that made it was super consistent. But Abby and Hattie definitely surprised me. And then what blew my mind, Hattie was at semifinals last year. I'm like, man, I didn't even remember that. But this year she just came back and killed it. Did you have a chance to talk to her, Abigail? A little bit.

We actually ran into her more offstage than we did onstage. So we were at a hotel. They checked into that hotel. We didn't like the hotel. Went somewhere else. We met each other in passing there. Seriously, you went to a hotel and didn't like it and switched hotels at semifinals? Ended up not getting reimbursed from it, but it was so bad, Siobhan, that I was like, I seriously can't do this. And I'm usually not high maintenance.

Yeah. Cockroaches. Oh. Blood on the wall. Oh um you walk in and it just smells like weed uh it was bad and the pictures online did not look that bad it's not like i was trying to be a penny pincher but literally half a mile up the road we were like i don't even care let's try a different hotel was so much nicer so which hotel was it it was the extended stay it's like extended stay america i think so jonathan ortega sub on that hotel was bad so he was there he was the one with blood on the wall cockroach he actually because ortega and me like worked together that weekend he was awesome he texted me when we were on the flight he's like have you seen the hotel yet and i'm like no what are you talking about he's like it's bad it's real bad four out of ten like just mentally preparing me that it's not what the pictures said it was online wow i know

but it was good people got arrested within the first hour of being there that's what Ortega said oh my god what city was it in was it in Compton it was in Carson but closer to the Compton side yeah and Carson uh is no that's one thing that unfortunately surprised me about the venue was I mean Pasadena last year venue was beautiful and then you walk outside and there was a beautiful courtyard i mean hotels everywhere and just really nice scenery carson surprised me with the venue itself was impeccable but then walk outside of it and you're like oh i guess i have to go to this like go 20 minutes towards the beach to get the cute the fun things for dinner uh caleb if you type in extended stay america uh carson and then hit news are there like shootings and shit

there i think the problem is it's an extended stay so people were legit living there right yeah i wouldn't be surprised the way california runs and i'm not even saying this jokingly that our taxpayer dollars are being used to put people there. Carson hotel to be renovated into housing for homeless. Exactly. Yeah, dude,

look at that. Yes. You nailed it. Yeah. The consensus was Dylan was like, from now on, I'll pick the hotel. Oh my God.

Let me see. Let me see. Or me see the top. Ortega, are you seeing this? So that is what's happening. Let me see the top. Oh, I can't get rid of that. Damn. Maybe go to the top a little bit.

Scroll up a little bit, Kayla. Maybe there's a little X up there. Sign up. Sign up Stefan's email. Scroll the. That's it. Scroll. Can you scroll to the top and maybe there's a little X you can click.

Project of Weinberg. Oh, man. OK, so. Oh, and it has wraparound services. OK, so it's so it was a homeless shelter when you went there paid by our tax dollars. Probably. I was not paying with your tax dollars. I had to pay with my my hard tax dollars. Probably. I was not paying with your tax dollars. I had to pay with my hard-working dollars.

And when I say homeless shelter, I mean a place for drug addicts who don't want to work. That's wild. I mean, you walk in and you could smell every drug that they were doing. Yeah, that's what's happening in California. Nice hotels are being rented out by the state and drug addicts are being put in.

That's crazy. Hey, the hotel you switched at, was it hard getting a room? No. Dylan, whatever Dylan did, he called and there was one room available and we got it. 107 studio apartments complete

with on-site wraparound services. Gross. Oh my goodness. Yeah, Dylan was great because I basically was like, messed up i'm sorry i hate this can you help me fix it and he handled it it's a place for vulnerable the vulnerable solutions for the vulnerable what the fuck does that mean we do everything we can to find a safe permanent housing for people experiencing homelessness and crossfit games athletes oh that's cool nuts hey they they wouldn't give you your money back no unfortunately which is fine i'd rather

eat the cost and come home healthy and safe uh uh did you yelp them no i'm not that type of person like i'm the one who booked the hotel. It's my own fault. Yeah. I'll suck up the cost. It's fine. What's their Yelp look like, Caleb? Is it crazy? I'm sure it is. Jonathan, I was vulnerable there without my pistol.

Hey, did other games athletes stay there? Well, that's what's so funny. So when we were leaving abigail was checking in uh-huh and stayed there wow her airbnb she rented i guess was so bad that this looked good wow look at the pictures like doesn't that look nice yes they bamboozled me well um i stayed at a hotel in san jose one time For a film festival And I went in the hotel room And I pulled the sheets back And this is a true story

The bed was covered with pubic hair Yours probably It was like someone shaved in there This place was absolutely terrible My fiance and I stayed here on Valentine's Day 2024 But ended up leaving Because the first check was ghetto Then we went upstairs and the room was

not as advertised but we stay we saw cockroaches yeah this place deserves no stars even after the bad reviews we decided to give it a try we came last minute uh to a game in the sports complex down the street bad idea to say the least lobby was screaming smoke smell the rooms are horrible condition please look at the pictures and see for yourself yeah it was bad oh but we did well we dylan went to a galaxy game while he was there not fun there's no phone to call the front desk no shower shampoo no coffee pot floors and hallway have trash all throughout oh my god it truly is a dump and so i was like man i'm coming to Savon state, California. It's going to be beautiful.

It was not. The hallway smells like marijuana. You smell marijuana there. Oh yeah. This is awesome. Do not stay here. Slid card and said it was rejected. So slid again, then tried it.

It did not work either. Finally gave up when someplace else card worked fine with no problem. Next day credit card company contacted me about over 800 in charges. Oh shit. it was bad i mean it's in the past i can't dwell on it but never again never again oh these reviews are awesome watch there be one from jonathan ortega oh my oh my room smelled bad yeah look at all the and there's pictures of mold oh look at someone got a picture of the cockroach ah that guy this is the most traumatizing stay at a hotel in my entire life good i'm glad i'm not the only one who i felt like i was being dramatic but these people they heard me oh look oh look there's not a single five-star. Go back up.

Holy shit. 72 reviews. Do you think cutting toenails or fingernails is gross? Do I think? Yeah. You saw Dylan. No. Okay, good.

Me neither. No, this is what Dylan does. So, do you see this couch right here? Yeah. It's beautiful. You'll sit on the couch at night. Like, well, I. Me neither. No, this is what Dylan does. Do you see this couch right here? Yeah, it's beautiful. He'll sit on the couch at night, like when I'm likely to bed, pick his toenails and throw them on the floor. And so I know in the morning if there's toenail clippings on the floor here,

that I vacuum them up. So I don't get grossed out by them, but I'm like, hey, bro, can you contain them and then pick them up and throw them away? Like give it one of these? Yeah, exactly. Exactly. That's fair. I think that's a reason. I think that's reasonable.

Oh, a four star. I stayed at this location from June 12th until June 29th due to renovation to my apartment. Other than the weed smoking, my stay was relaxing and peaceful. I will say the people at the front desk were the friendliest people ever so they're workers 10 out of 10 unfortunately the facility was not that's uh because their minimum wage has been raised to 20 an hour it was so funny though because they checked us into this hotel it's like one in the morning so me and dylan are like we're staying in this hotel we don't have choice she comes in she walks us to our room and she's like what do you think of the

room i'm like okay she's like lay on the bed tell me if it's cozy if it's not cozy i'll get to another room no at this at this shithole she did that yeah she like stood there until we laid on the bed to try it out if we liked it before she left. Wow. Thank you, but you can't save this one. Was she embarrassed or did she get it? Oh, she was the sweetest lady ever. She seemed like she loved her job. She was helping us out, getting us to a room, making sure we liked it and it was cozy. Where are you staying in Texas? The texas the dickies you got a good spot

oh athlete hotel yeah they book it for us which is nice so crossfit games this one's on you this one's not on me uh is it nice do you have you looked at the hotel yeah it's there's like a section of fort worth where there's an omni there's a sheraton it's like a section of Fort Worth where there's an Omni. There's a Sheraton. It's like a very nice hotel block. We're in that hotel block. Are you going? I don't know. What? I don't know yet.

What are you waiting for? Access. Didn't Dave give it to you like a week before last time? I'm not dealing with Dave this time. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. like a week before last time i'm not dealing with dave this time oh yeah yeah but i think the behind the scenes were really good and i think i did a great job representing uh the crossfit games and athletes and all of crossfit you did and i didn't hear anything negative i didn't hear anything negative are they letting other people backstage? No. So, so,

so they are, but not like in the past. So last year they gave me really good access. Like I could go anywhere and everywhere. Like I could go into the war room. I could just go every like anywhere. And to be honest, I didn't see one other person who had the access I had like no one.

Um, and, but I need that access to do what I do so because kind of the underpinning of the behind the scenes is to show the inner workings of what goes on there yeah and build all that fun stuff yeah and I feel best uh when I can walk around like I own the place so I want to be able to like film with Don or Bill and Katie there was only one place I couldn't go last year and there's this whole section where maybe they have equipment that's never been seen before. And like, no one's allowed back there. So I stayed away from that. But other than that, I had access. And so this year, I think

they're trying to limit that. And we're going to find out, but last year they would say stuff like, Hey, it's not fair if you can go places and other people can't. And it's like I don't think fair even has a place. There's tons of places. Like the people, the audience can't go certain places. Like it has nothing to do with being fair. You know what I mean? Well, and who are you being fair towards?

Yeah. The people I see going backstage are Craig, Butter Bros, and you. Yeah. But even they weren't allowed to go last year where i was allowed to go and i didn't hear them ever complain though but are they telling the same story no no exactly so i think it's if you're looking at the story you're trying to tell they had the perfect access for them uh jonathan ortega it's cool stevan you can sit in the stands stands with me yeah yeah uh when will you go we'll go up monday so we'll drive on monday okay actually we told pedro you know our good you know pedro coffee pods and wads yeah pedro

white yes of course yeah we wanted him to fly to our house to come get a little taste of like Texas steak. We were going to grill for him and all that. And then I've up to Dallas together. He flies in, I think on Monday. So it literally be the day that we're leaving. And then, you know, people across the pond, four hours to them. No way. Too much of a drive. So we're like, Hey, no way too much of a drive so we're like hey buy in hang out with us and let's drive up it's only four hours and he's like four hours is there a flight we can take you can drive across this whole country in four hours exactly we're like that's a good drive like that's an easy day trip get there by dinner have some dinner but no unfortunately it didn't work out just due to timing and when i have to be there and he has to be there, but that would have been awesome.

Do you have any thoughts about where you're going to place at the games this year? I don't because I like, I'll be honest, semifinals, I went in and my expectation was I'm either going to win or I'm going to podium. And so I think going in with those expectations, you have to like reevaluate them as the weekend goes. And so I think going in with those expectations, you have to like reevaluate them as the weekend goes. And so I'd rather go into the games just like I'm going to do my best and I'll be great. If I have the expectation of podium, I mean, chances are I might get let down because it's ridiculous. So I'm just my realistic goal is to be top 10. I think that would be awesome they announced who

was going to the games and trista smith did not make it and all the other girls were like celebrating and i was watching you and you didn't get a chance to celebrate because you went over and hugged trista and it was a long hug. You probably hugged her. I mean, for a long, long time. Yeah. What was that about? Why not just celebrate and be like, yo bitch, you're on your own. Like take, even like a champ. Yeah. No, like makes my heart hurt. Yeah. I've made it to the games like in that setting where they call your name. I've experienced that three times I've experienced

not hearing my name be called seven or eight times so I know how heartbreaking it is to see somebody right next to you like celebrating having the time of your life and your season just ended you wanted to hear your name you didn't so I know the heartache and the pain that causes so I was like honestly I don't care if you're celebrating you get your moment you get to train for the games you get all the fun like yeah some people's seasons that they trained super hard for they just found out they're not making it and it's detrimental and it hurts and it sucks and I mean sometimes you just want to hug what I felt bad for is I went in for a hug because I'm like hey girl you killed it this weekend during the final heat and it's one of those hugs where you hug and like you kind of

go to pull away like are we done and then that's when she just hugged tighter and then i just felt like the sobbing and yeah yeah i mean you guys you were in full mama mode i saw you like maybe even like doing her hair i was like holy shit this is real this fuck like it was hug my heart hurts for you you're amazing i love you and then we held it there for a second and then i could just like feel her crying and her heart breaking yeah like i'm just gonna stay here take your time i know you don't want everybody to see you crying distraught and so i just i hung on until she was like ready to face the world, you know, and it was longer than I expected, but like, you can just, I could feel the sobs. I could hear the

sobs. So I was like, I'm so sorry. I've got you. Yeah. And so, so back to the behind the scenes, those are the moments I want to get. And if I don't have access, I won't get those moments. Like I was right there. I hung out for all three, four or five minutes of the hug. It was a long hug. And I know a lot of people are jealous that i got to hug trista smith yes and you know what she's gonna look back at that in five years and watch the behind the scenes and be so excited that that moment was captured yeah i mean those moments make you grateful for when you do make it you're like okay because of that i got stronger i got fitter but in the moments it sucks yeah and it has to suck so you can learn from it and grow and improve uh ariel i i love you to death man you're the best you too thanks you're a great human all

right have a good training day thank you bye say hi to dylan i will i will yeah okay oh bye don't take oh shit i lost dale dylan has his own hawk twoy girl crazy hi caleb hi 45 minutes more and i'd have fallen completely in love with her you can't you can't have ariel lowing on for more than minutes. I'm surprised you haven't fallen completely in love with her already. Ask her if she wants to take on another husband. She's amazing, right?

Yeah, she's cool as shit. You can tell she's intense now. She's got a little bite to her. Where does she train? In her garage. Dale Saran! What's up, dude? Go ahead. Ask about the eyeball. What happened to the eyeball? Hey, but first, I like

the new backdrop. Before, it was you were sitting in the entryway of your house with a pistol on the desk. Don't kid yourself. I always have pistol access. Don't be stupid. I'm always ready. Come on. Always got that thing on him uh and now now you've been

look like you've been busy reading did you get new are you are you at home still yeah i'm at home in the basement that's actually a backdrop that's a screen it's not an actual bookshelf but i like it is that a fake one no shit yeah jay jay was like hey you gotta put something different than your your screen back there so jay's been trying to turn me into a quasi professional while we've been working on my podcast um uh we'll get to that in a second of course yes what happened to the eyeball so i'm just playing hockey sunday night i subbed in and of course i don't wear a shield or a cage and of course the law of unintended consequences i lifted a guy's stick up he was gone by he let it go it caught me right in the face twice i got the shaft and then the he got me in the corner or

in the corner with his the the curve of the blade as he was going by it got me pretty good that's what happened to hayley last night she caught the shaft that's right that's what that's from she let the stick go and caught the shaft yeah it happens now my wife's been going around we had some water issues here in the house so every time somebody bumps into my wife and they stare at me she's like that's what he gets for giving me lip she's enjoying that entirely too much you know if you were a woman and you had uh hayley had two black eyes uh during the pregnancies from babies breastfeeding and then banging their head up and and uh every time she's had a black eye someone in public obviously at santa cruz has stopped her and is like you know it's okay to talk about it nobody has yeah oddly enough no one has yet asked me until uh if you know i want to talk about it uh

told me that it's okay to talk about that hasn't come up yet people just stare at me like it's men's mental health month isn't it that's did you get a ringing from that dale was is that no no did you know it was did you know it was bad when it happened uh i i was still playing so i got up i mean i was in the middle of a play and so i kept skating for a while and then i got over the bench and i said am i cut and the guys on the on the bench were like they're like yeah you might need to wipe that off and so because it was bleeding down my chin while i was trying to play and so that's a soft spot that's a nasty place to get a cut under the eye. Yeah. I didn't even once. And then the funnier thing was when I got home from the game, you know, that was a game, not even my game. I was just subbing in and, uh,

trying to hide it from my wife because she has always been like, Hey, why don't you wear a cage? Or why not? So when I came in, she was like, will you wear a cage, please? I was like, I didn't even try and argue. I was like, I'll put the cage back back on so if you're not used to a cage will that affect your play i i wore a i grew up with cages and warm for years but i thought it meant it made people more uh careless with sticks and so and i like the visibility i feel like there's a even though there probably aren't with the cage i feel feel like I have blind spots. Well, actually, I know there are. When the puck's in your feet, your chin bubble, the thing on your chin that holds the cage is when you look down, you can't see shit if the puck's down low. And so I like not having it.

I like the visibility over the cage, but I'll probably go back to wearing it because I can't risk losing an eye. Does anyone who plays pro not wear a cage? They wear shields now, I think it's mandatory, but he plays pro not wear a cage oh they wear shields now i think it's mandatory but he's gonna wear a shield i don't think the shields do shit i think that's i think it's kind of like um theater as greg would say security theater yeah i think the the glass is more theater than it is reality it doesn't really protect much i don't think um yesterday uh the supreme court handed down a decision it's it's kind of it's kind of weird oh the nhl has a rule that requires players with fewer than 25 games of

experience to wear a visor that properly covers their eyes while attached to their helmet the rule was introduced in 2013 it's intended to provide adequate eye protection however as of november 23rd some players including jam Benn, Zach Bogosian, Armenian. There you go. Milan, Lukic, Matt Martin, et cetera, still don't wear visors and are exempt from the rule. Yeah. I don't like it.

The other thing is if you're going to fight, I hate that guys who drop the gloves wear a shield. I mean, if you're going to drop the gloves, you should ditch your own. Ditch the helmet. Throw the helmet too, right? Yeah. But they made a rule like you can't do that. And I get why.

Is there fighting in your league? No. No, no. Not supposed to be. Not supposed to. I have had one one-game suspension for – and I didn't even – no punches thrown. I was trying to defend a teammate who had like three guys on top of him. So I just grabbed one of the other guys and that was sufficient to get me tossed for a game so whatever

wow speaking of getting tossed um so i did i know we could fall into the weeds in this and there's so much to say that's uh been occurring to donald trump by the way i don't know last night i was listening to guttville uh give a talk this is off subject here a little bit, but he was giving a talk talking about a a a hyperbole to him yes um but but joe biden is just straight fucking lying hey no one died under my tenure right that was when he said that i was like what what about that squad of marines that got blown to smithereens hey how about this forget the americans for a minute forget about the mar Marines down at Kabul airport. But how about after that happened, a few days later, in order to prove that they were tough, they drone struck what they later admitted were innocent people. two people and and nobody nobody resigned nobody even had like we've reached the the post honor era of the military like i tell people it's amazing to me mike border was the chief of naval operations when i was uh in the military he killed himself because newsweek was going to

run a story that he was wearing awards that he wasn't entitled to and so border drove out into potomac park or whatever and blew his brains out with a 45. He was the chief of Naval operations. It was the first seaman to Admiral, right? And when it happened, I remember I was in at the time and I remember when it happened and I remember the talk that, and he was wearing, he was wearing a couple of devices that had combat V on the metals that he wasn't entitled to. He was entitled to the metal, but combat V means something on like a bronze star. It means an act of personal valor in combat. You can get a combat action ribbon, for example,

for just being there when the bullets are flying. But if you get a combat V, that signifies that, hey, it's a conspicuous act of gallantry under fire. And so he had a couple of those that he wasn't entitled to. And there had been rumors about that. And Newsweek was going to run with that story.

Yeah, Mike Borda. And in no way do I think he should have killed himself. I do not. Yeah. See the two Vs, the two combat Vs, Navy Comm and a Navy Achievement Medal. Those two right there. The green and white is a Navy Combination Medal with a combat V. And the orange and green stripe one next to it is the Navy Achievement Medal with a combat V.

And so, like, I've got a couple NAMs and a couple comm the navy achievement medal with combat v and so like i've got a couple nams and a couple comms but uh none with combat v and i wouldn't i wouldn't dare to do it so when that got reported yeah the two ribbons with v devices when that got reported uh and that was about to go hot he he suck started his pistol killed himself um and um uh i don't say that was a good but boy, have we come a long way from a day when the guy, the chief of naval operations offed himself because of how he felt he would be perceived by his fellow warriors. And we got generals now who drone strike innocent people and just get up in front of Congress and go, meh, nobody even offers to retire in disgrace you know it that was for me to me that was the that's the end right there that's the absolute uh the what the apex is the top what's the bottom

you know the the apogee i forget which it is or what is it in a way of the trough yeah the trough just call it that's the bottom right there that's that's military bottoming out, as far as I'm concerned, for officer class. I was embarrassed and ashamed for them. Hey, have you ever heard of anyone refusing a medal, getting a medal? I mean, like, no, I don't deserve that. Yeah, I tried to do that once. You did? Not so well, yeah.

So when I came in, me and a buddy of mine came in right after that. We got commissioned right after the Gulf War. So we had missed the Gulf War. That was over. We were told we were going to be part of it. And so at our first inspection at basic school, we're brand new second lieutenants, but they're still handing out. They hadn't closed the window of eligibility for a national defense service medal, the NDSM, the pizza stain, the red and yellow, right? And so there we are as second lieutenants in our first inspection, and we're supposed to wear this little single ribbon.

We haven't done shit. We're still in training. We haven't even been in the Marine Corps for three months, and we've got – yeah, there it is, the pizza stain. And so there was a famous broadside comic that came out during this time where a second lieutenant's walking along and there's a drill instructor pointing at him and goes i'm sorry sir i mistook that for a pizza stain on your uniform and that became kind of a famous uh comic of the day so we didn't want to wear it and so we had our first inspection and so me and my buddy had decided like in solidarity like we're going to be hard we're old core guys you know we're not

going to wear a medal to which we are not entitled. And so we showed up in the inspector. Inspector and officer was like, and of course we got last names. Both start with S. You know, we've been to college together. So we've always been standing next to each other in formation. And this inspecting officer got in front of us and you could see him go livid. He was like, where's your national defense service medal there, Lieutenant?

And I was like, sir. I tried to start explaining. He goes, you will get that fucking medal on the next time i see you or i will throw you out of here myself and he looks wow and he's oh he was like yeah he goes you wear what you're fucking told to wear and blah the rationale of that why not just be like why not give you like a um senior integrity medal no he didn't want to hear that shit he was no me and me and mike bolt he was like get the you fucking idiots get back and go put your ndsms on you shitheads you know we were like now it's like a badge of honor because they uh they stopped giving them out like last year so like you go to school with a bunch of new guys and they don't even have them on yeah it's like

you got to wear it now hey i'll tell you what there's a great story smedley smedley butler who's famous for having two congressional medal two excuse me not congressional but two medals of honor so smedley butler's a legend in the marine corps and famous for having two medals of honor. So Smedley Butler is a legend in the Marine Corps. And he had two medals of honor. His first one he got for actions down in the Mexican-American War. And he sent it back after he got it and said that he had done nothing to deserve it. And he got essentially, you can find the letter in his book, War is book war is a racket in the back section when it talks about his biography but he

got a letter back from the secretary of the navy telling him the same thing that we got shut your mouth and wear your fucking medal and so he was like okay so he wore his second medal of honor his his first one he didn't think he deserved it he wrote a letter specifically saying i've done nothing to deserve this and there is some there's more than more than enough evidence to suggest that you know they were given those things out kind of kind of to make it you know for propaganda reasons he didn't want any part of it but they told him he had to wear it to shut up so how about how about this how about this guy have you seen this biden white house hires an absolute nutcase anti-law enforcement terror sympathizer as an associate

communications director. Yeah, that tracks. DEI bingo hits again with the promotion of Tyler Cherry, a primary individual who will now serve as associate communications director. Yeah, I saw that. Looks the part for that DEI administration. It's the same. His large history of controversial anti-white, anti-Israel, anti-law enforcement social media posts are raising some eyebrows. Important to note, he wasn't 15 at the time of these tweets, but rather pushing 30. I mean, none of this is surprising for the Biden White House. Calling

for the abolishment of ICE and sympathizing with terror networks isn't out of the ordinary, but this just further goes to show that Joe Biden isn't in charge over there. He's not making the decisions or calling the shots. Rather, his band of gen z and millennial di weirdos who don't know which bathroom to use let alone how to navigate the most important role in the world they are running the white house and that should tell news the biden crazy yeah only par for the course you know there's a a great conspiracy theory that i thought was as nutty as you know squirrel shit but now i'm kind of i'm coming around on it but the um that this has been obama's third term you know there's all kinds of evidence for that uh i don't know if you remember when there was uh obama made an appearance at the white house and biden

was there and this was early in biden's uh term and biden's kind of walking around and no one will talk to him they're just ignoring him i I remember that. Everyone's shaking Obama. And everybody's ignoring Obama, you know, just loving on. And Joe is just like, you know, trying to get somebody to talk to him. Just like a Roomba, you know, just wander around, bumping into feet and everything. And that said a lot to me. And of course, everybody who's at the White House, like Valerie Jarrett, it's all holdovers from obama and then there's that that interview he gave where obama talked about you know he would love to have you know a third term where he didn't have to you know deal with it i mean it it looks clearer and clearer right

that he's actually been the one pulling the stream strings there through his folks in the white house but what was interesting to me about this is i think that given Biden's history, I don't think any of the DEI stuff, I don't think the transgender, all the troon cult nonsense is Biden. I think that's Obama's people, which what's her face just said there. That's probably true, but it does make you think that maybe there's more like, why would Obama do it? And then you hear all the things about Obama saying, I've dreamt about men and all that stuff. And I'm like, boy, it sure starts to make that look more plausible, you know, that I wouldn't otherwise have given it any credence, but boy, all of that stuff.

It looks to me, somebody wrote something recently on Substack about it, about it's a humiliation ritual, and that's what it looks like to me. Hey, so the Biden administration wanted it to make – they were pushing so that any child 12 years old and older could chop off their genitals without telling their parents, right? They were pushing for a full – I mean child abuse on the fucking highest, predatorial child abuse at the highest level. And it was being pushed by Rachel Levine. It was being pushed by this. Dick Levine? Yeah, by this girl. And newly released emails from an influential group

issuing transgender medical guidelines indicate the U.S. health officials lobbied to remove age minimums for surgery in minors because of concerns over political fallout so recently they've just they've reversed it yeah well that's because uh england came out there was a big thing that basically england said no more done that in fact england said it's abuse and uh uh what's her face there jk rowling has been been kind of thrashing people about that soundly but uh the trune cult has run its course and it seems to be kind of kind of running out what did you call it the trune cult

t-r-o-o-n that's sort of the nick's nickname for the for the transgender nonsense that we've been we've been living through hey early on when the discussion popped up a few years ago, people were like, hey, a surgical intervention for psychological interviews, surgical interventions for psychological issues was outlawed in whatever, 1960, whatever, with the end of lobotomies. uh, Kennedy's, I think sister Rosemary, Rosemary Kennedy, if you want to read the saddest thing ever, uh, uh, they gave her lobotomy or maybe it was his aunt and they gorked her on accident. Yes. And then she was that the Kennedy family kept her hidden away. Um, for that, that was widely known. If you're from Massachusetts, new England, you you're fully read in on that. That's been a long, uh, unspoken, but well-known Kennedy family secret, you know, along with Ted's, you know, Chappaquiddick killing of the, you know, abandonment of the gal. He was drunk driving and got her killed when he escaped the car. I mean, those are, that's all part of the Kennedy lore in New England.

I would love to just find one person who had their penis chopped off and 10 years later is happy about it because the story is coming out of people who like their vagina unraveled or their penis got – their new penis got infected. I mean the stories are fucking nuts, and it's like – I mean it's some crazy shit. It's like shit you would see in a museum in Los Angeles, torture, Chinese torture. You would see in a museum in Los Angeles, Chinese torture. It's Dr. Mengele level shit. Yeah. You know, that we, we tried people at Nuremberg in 47 for this kind of stuff. And now we're, and I mean, imagine the, if you go back and look at the indictments against the Nuremberg doctors, you'll find things that look a lot like this and you'd be horrified. By the way, it's a part that people don't understand about um the weimar republic just prior

to hitler coming to power hitler's rise to power in many ways was a reaction to rampant gay transgenderism that was the thing in the early 30s a very very well documented uh part of you can go back and find this stuff that that germany was known for it's kind of this stuff the same kind of stuff that we're the witness we are reliving the 30s all over again the late 20s early 30s we're just reliving it all again same thing it's so interesting uh greg was pointing me towards um who's the conservative uh military historian victor david hansen yeah victor david hansen greg was pointing me towards something showing the parallels yeah that what happens when empires start flourishing and they take this like holier than thou moral high ground and they start trying

to think they think they're going to accept everything under the guise of being peaceful people and it just gives uh an excuse for the monsters to raise their heads yeah victor he's got a book out right now called uh and the end of everything and then yeah the end of it yeah highly i'm about uh 60 70 pages in it's a damn good book he's a brilliant historian is it scary is it gonna scare the shit out of me? Yeah, you'll read it and go, oof. It's how civilizations get destroyed. Yeah, how wars descend into annihilation. And it's got four different examples.

I've already finished the first one. I'm into the second one right now. How Carthage was destroyed by the Greeks. It's a really, really fascinating analysis.reeks it's a really really fascinating uh fascinating analysis yeah it's pretty good it's pretty i saw him being interviewed obviously over at the hoover institute regarding the book and it was a great interview he basically gives a synopsis of the of the four pieces of the book you're talking about yeah yeah yeah he gets four different examples but he's he's a brilliant historian a classics he wrote the my the one that really introduced me to him, I think it might've been Greg who turned me on to it too, was who killed

Homer. And he talks about what happened to classical studies. And, and, you know, he comes to the conclusion, it was kind of the same, the idiots within Academy, you know, who just turned it into a joke. I love that in the book, he, in the, in the beginning, in the acknowledgement of the forward, he's like all translations of Greek and Latin texts are the author's own. I just love that. He didn't need dude reads and writes fluent Greek and Latin. He's like, I don't need any help on the translation. I'll just do my own.

Thank you. I mean, he was fully immersed, right? He was like a Latin study. Yeah, he went full in. Yeah, he speaks Greek and Latin and – yeah. So yesterday, the Supreme Court said something along the lines of a president of the United States can't be tried or persecuted – tried for criminal activities that were related to the job yeah it's not okay said it's not what they said okay okay and by the way this is somebody had a great line about this i can't right i read it recently but in the in the immediate reaction all the stern and drawing

over this but somebody said you know everybody but jack smith has always known that the president had immunity for official actions. And so the idea, there was a famous Supreme Court case. It's called Youngstown Sheet and Tube Company versus Sawyer. And this was a 1952 case. It was Harry Truman. Most people don't know. He nationalized, he seized basically the steel industry. And they sued over it and went to the supreme court and the question was could could harry truman because the president of the united

states kind of like you know the dictator in venezuela could you just nationalize and just see what does that mean to nationalize something like if the u.s government said we now own amazon right yes yes the the so the venezuelans cook you're out in some tranny. We're putting some tranny in charge. Yeah. You're out. You no longer own it. Okay. Just we're going to see-

Look, to seize and operate in most of the nation's steel mills. Okay. Wow. So they just said the government's got- We're going to show up and you don't run this anymore. Like one day you own a business. It would be like if tomorrow the government said we're going to seize all alternative media. And so we're only going to have mainstream.

And all these alt media people like you, Matosi, and that's it. You're done. We're seizing. Someone came in and took all my podcast gear and then they own the domain YouTube and all that. Everything. They just took the domain and like they're in control of it. They just put locks on the doors of your studio and they just started running it. And that's what typically happens in communist countries.

That seems to be when things start failing, they startizing and so venezuela nationalized the oil industry venezuela is sitting on the world's largest oil reserves for what it's worth and you know look at them yeah it must be all the capitalism that's forcing them to eat their pets but in any event um so uh truman tried to do that in youngstown sheet and tube and uh the supreme court came and it was like no you can't do that and even during a war even during a war yeah even during a war it was during the korean war um so it was a it was a it's a very famous case it's it's a um staple of con law too i think it is in law school like everybody does Youngstown sheet and tube. And there's, it's really become a very,

a very well-cited, well-understood opinion about the limits of presidential power, as well as, you know, what, what can be done about it? Like nobody, for example,

Truman did that. The Supreme court said, no, you can't do that. But nobody subsequently said, okay, now we're going to prosecute Truman for that. No one said, okay, now Truman's subject to criminal you know even though it i mean it was it was an expropriation of people's property fundamentally just a theft of

of the steel mills of the united states but nobody said okay truman needs to go to jail now like subsequently now we're going to prosecute truman for it and the reality is wharton right and that's important that they can't prosecute him for that. Of course. Of course. You can't have- So this case that just came out yesterday, notwithstanding all the wailing and gnashing of teeth, it didn't say anything that a reasonably well-thought constitutional law professor, you know, would have said,

like when I was at law school in 99, 97, 98, no one would have thought anything about this decision other than, you know, that, yeah, of course you can't prosecute the president for official acts. And basically what they did is they broke it out into different, call it different, like concentric rings. And so that what they said was that in the areas that are that are conclusively given to the president um that are constitutionally delegated you know we have a separation of powers this all flows from the separation of powers meaning that we have three different branches of government we have the legislative which is the congress they make the laws we have the legislative, which is the Congress. They make the laws. We have the judiciary. The judicial branch looks at the laws and says either they are or they

aren't constitutional. And then the president is supposed to execute the laws and he has other powers that are given to him. And this is widely well understood. And they basically looked and said, look, there's absolute immunity where you have something that is conclusively and preclusively given to the president. For example, they talked about the removal power of people he appoints, that that is an absolute, that's conclusively constitutionally delegated to the president. And nobody can, Congress, they couldn't criminalize that. They have no right to criminalize that. And the same way that the president can't change a law, like that is exclusively and preclusively given to him. And so he's got absolute immunity for doing that. And this comes up because the way they charge this, it's really interesting. If you look at

what he's charged with and what Trump was charged with.C., they're trying to charge him with the insurrection. But they didn't charge him with insurrection because they knew they couldn't make it stick. So if you look at the charges in D.C. that he was charged with, he actually has four charges. And it's like the first one is a conspiracy to defraud under 18 U.S.C. 371. The other one was conspiracy to obstruct under 1512, which was the Enron statute. And then the third charge is obstruction and attempt under 1512 C2, which is also the Enron statute. And then conspiracy against rights is the fourth count of the indictment. And they go through it and they just say look you know all these acts that they alleged

are many of them are things that are that are official acts that were done in his role as the president so for example he you know their big claim is like he threatened to fire he tried to pressure the attorney general and he threatened to fire him and the supreme court said yeah he has an absolute nobody can say shit about whether he fires the- Because that's an appointed position? Yeah, it's appointed by him and he's got the absolute power of removal under the Constitution. So if he wants to shit can the AG, he can shit can the AG. That's within his purview.

And nobody gets to say anything about it. He certainly can't be tried criminally for it. And then they sort of go outward from there and they go, okay, there are the things that are exclusively given to him. And then as you move outward from there, they go, okay, there are the things that are exclusively given to him. And then as you move outward from there, they go, well, then there are things that maybe aren't exclusively, but they might be things where both the president and the Congress have a say. And in those areas, they say, look, at the outer limits of his power, he still has presumptive immunity. immunity in other words we're not you can't have a president you can't have a president be the president if they they have to worry that any decision they make is going to be subject to criminal prosecution after the fact this is another example can you give me an example where that would

go bad what would it do it just paralyze the office yeah it'd be impossible for you company right so suppose suppose the um suppose the president decides suppose there's an embassy that's collapsing in Liberia. Like I remember when the Liberian embassy needed to be rescued, right? And all the people there. So the president decides that he's going to send Marines to go in and rescue Americans and take all this action or whatever. you, and there's the War Powers Act, which was passed by Congress. Every executive has said that they refuse to acknowledge it, that it impinges on presidential prerogatives. But suppose they could say, well, you violated the War Powers Act and you have to be worried that you'd be prosecuted criminally for sending Marines in without a declaration of war to rescue people in an embassy. I mean, you could come up with a million infinite number of examples of where if you had to worry about criminal prosecution for acts that you know might be argued later well we didn't agree we didn't like it ergo it was criminal therefore you'd be prosecuted and the president would be would be crippled the presidency

would become nothing so you fire on a russian nuclear, the sub sinks to the bottom. Next thing you know, the president's being charged criminally for polluting the ocean. Right. You could come up with all kinds of, again, there's no end to the foolishness that could follow. And the Supreme Court talks about that in the opinion. They do a pretty good job. The interesting thing is they draw the line at what they call official and unofficial acts.

And they say the Clinton v. Jones case was one of the few cases, and that happened when I was in law school. So I remember we read that quite a bit. We studied that a lot because there was a big question about, could Clinton, that while he was president, he had immunity. And he couldn't be sued by Paula Jones. She'd have to wait. She'd have to just sit there and told the statute of limitations, just wait until he left office. And the Supreme Court said, no, no, no. These were acts that occurred that were unofficial acts. And they didn't occur while you were president. They occurred while you were. So fingering a girl at the workplace as the president is not an official act.

That would appear not. Against her will. So raping someone would fall outside. Yeah. Those are acts that are not official. They're not. And they spend a good deal of time talking kind of in the interstitial about things that even though they might not appear to be official, they're like, hey, a lot of the things that the though they're not, they're not, they might not appear to be official. They're like, Hey, a lot of the things that the president does, like when he addresses the nation

on issues that are, aren't, don't exist, there's no statutory reason for him to be talking about, say, if there's a tragedy and it kills a bunch of Americans, they're like, and the president gives a speech about that. Those are official acts, even though there's no no statute there's nothing you could point to to say well he has the authority to do that or whatever it's like that's just part of the what inheres in the office of the presidency and so they talk about that as well and they and they go through i took a bunch of notes but what about taking bribes dale yeah that's, that's not. That's not official? No, that's not official either. So if you, and the president could be charged criminally for that. Sure.

But the thing is, you'd have to, where you'd have to start is, the way it works is this. In order to indict him criminally, you would have to start with, and they say this, they've set it up so that the courts would have to make an initial determination of whether the acts were official or unofficial. And it would be, the burden would be on the government to overcome the presumption of immunity that in fact, these things were official. And so it sets the bar pretty high and makes it such that, look, we're going to presume that you're immune. And then it's on the government to overcome that immunity, that presumptive immunity and show that these were unofficial acts. And then the other term they use manifestly or palpably beyond his authority. I mean, you'd have to find things that were clearly outside of and overcome the immunity and all of that. And then one of the

things that was interesting I found in the opinion was that courts may not inquire into the president's motives. And they cite the Harlow Fitzgerald case, which had to deal with Nixon's firing of some of the lawyers. And a lot of this comes out of only really a couple of cases. But the Nixon case, there were a series of cases that came out of that. But they do a pretty good job, I think, of saying you can see that they're trying to cut off. They're like, we're not going to have this where you get to inquire and you get to inquire into the president's motives. Or like it would turn every decision. Everybody could say, oh, he did this because he's really a dirtbag and a bad guy. And like it may look that way to you politically because you disagree with what he's doing but we're just we're not going to go down that road and so what about like a biden taking money from china through his sons through his son's corporations is that um uh they couldn't even ask what his motive is for that no well you know you'd have that's one of those ones that to me looks like it is you know, and maybe it's my political view, but that looks manifestly or palpably beyond his authority.

You know, the, hey, we fired the prosecutor. We threatened the, but I mean, you know, from Biden's perspective, right now, let me be Biden's defense attorney on the, hey, we fired the, we told them, you know, fire the prosecutor or we wouldn't give him the billion dollars. Right. You're talking about what happened in the Ukraine. Yeah. He's got a great argument that that would at least presumptively, he'd have presumptive immunity. It was an official act dealing with foreign power. That's clearly, you know, falls within. And he was the vice president. And they, there's some other aspects to this too that are really interesting because Pence, of course, has turned Judas Iscariot on Trump. on Trump and Pence is sort of like, oh, you tried to pressure me and all that with regard to the certification in January 6th. And they say, hey, you know, the president, the vice president is supposed to be close. There's no official. They talk a little, a good bit about what role the

president has in the certifying of the electors and all that, and the relationship between the president and the vice president and all that. But they basically said, hey, look, the problem here is that in the first instance, neither the district court nor the DC appellate court, neither the DC district court nor the DC circuit court would rule on whether these were official or unofficial acts. In other words, they just said, well, it's not official because we can find a law that we think it violates ergo no immunity and the court was like yeah you got that wrong like wildly wrong and so they sent it back light you know they didn't really pp wrap the uh dc district court too hard but but pretty clearly said look you guys you guys missed the you whiffed hard on this one so it's going back to the dc district court and they've instructed they have instructions about you know how you have to look at this and you know um what what they can and can't do and

and then of course uh so it's a majority opinion six three and the interesting part is thomas's concurrence uh he writes a concurring party lines too was it split down party lines no because amy coney barrett who you know my opinion about the supreme court justice is not like when i heard that you know people she was picked and people called you know so-called conservative you know political conservative justices like like kavanaugh for example people are like oh he's real conservative you know i i i think that misses it completely like the republican democrat kind of faux dichotomy, you know, for people like me, the real thing that matters is how you are on individual rights versus state authority. Right.

And so, you know, Kavanaugh was part of the, you know, John Yoo torture memo Bush White House. And so I always thought Kavanaugh, you know, for all the, like liberals jumping up and down about Kavanaugh being elected to the Supreme Court to me, was being appointed to the Supreme Court to me, was always kind of funny because, you know, Kavanaugh is no friend to individual rights at all. Kavanaugh is just a standard Bush level honk, you know, and I know people who know him and they hate when I make fun of them, but that's, that's my take. Kavanaugh is no great, you know, conservative. You get, you get an originalist like Thomas Gorsuch is good on individual rights. Alito's mostly okay, but all of those folks come out of the same view of the world, which is of course, they're always

willing to grant immunity to federal officials, you know, because what are they? Federal officials, you know, the government pays their check. And so it's, you know, we haven't had, Gorsuch is probably the best, most civil libertarian justice that we've had and currently have among the current slate of black robed pharisees but um amy coney barrett and uh sotomayor and uh jackson all um went you know said oh he shouldn't have any immunity at all in in varying reasons but um the other six couldn't that if this past be the clap beginning like a real death blow to the united states couldn't have this just been absolutely horrible? Like maybe the worst thing that's happened in our lifetime. Yeah.

It wouldn't have given a president immunity. Yeah, probably. Yeah. Well, look, it's arguable whether the Republic even exists as we know it. I mean,

the constitution is largely, largely at this point, a dead letter. Let, let me, Ooh, ouch. Let me ask you this.

Do you think that if it was the other way around and it was a Democrat who was – let's say Donald Trump was a Democrat, do you think it would have been 9-0? Of course. Of course it would have. Because the conservatives would have gone by the letter of the law. Yeah, for sure. It would have been 9-0 sure it would have been nine zip would have been nine zip yeah it's it's that's what's that's what's crazy to me i don't hear any i that's what's crazy to me i think that too i can't tell if i'm naive or if it's just no that's not naive i it's that's realist i mean it's it's unfortunate that's where we are but that's where we are pretending otherwise is i mean i have to make these kinds of judgments, you know, not

certainly not what Supreme court justices, but you know, that's what lawyers do. You don't, I don't make judgments about what I would like the law to be or what I think the law should be. You know, I, you make judgments on behalf of your clients on what the law really is, you know, where the rubber meets the road and including, you know, the old joke about a good lawyer knows the law, a good lawyer knows the law. A great lawyer knows the judge. Oh, oh.

You know? So I mean, just to go back to the Ukrainian thing. So basically, the pop narrative is this, that there was an attorney general in the Ukraine. He opened an investigation into Hunter Biden and doing some illegal dealings in the ukraine he opened an investigation into hunter biden and doing some illegal dealings in the ukraine then joe biden when he was vice president went over there and said hey fire this attorney general that's opening a case under my and he said this out loud this is the part we heard fire this attorney general or i'm not going to give you the billion dollars worth of aid of the united states has promised you and then before he got on the plane and he even said

if you don't do it by the time i get on the plane, you're not getting the money. And four hours later when he got on the plane, the guy was fired. And the thought – and we saw the same thing actually happen in like the Virgin Islands or something. Yes, yes. A case against – Yeah, the assistant – or the U.S. attorney in Virgin Islands I think got canned after opening it. That was around the Epstein case and biden also went down there on vacation okay so but but biden could just say no i wanted him fired

because we needed this money we needed this guy we needed he wouldn't even have to justify it he would just say because they can't ask the motives. Right. He would say, look, that falls presumptively and conclusively within my bounds as the vice president. That's what I do. I was doing that on behalf of the president of the United States. The presidency has the exclusive constitutional authority to deal with foreign policy and foreign powers. And so whatever the motives are, you can't inquire because that's that's it's none of the the judiciary or the legislatures now you might have so as the people the united states we have to be like okay we accept that and we don't like that we're just not going to vote for the guy again but he has to be able to keep those powers well right that one would be

closer though because there you're dealing with something that Congress has its hand in. In other words, the decision to send money overseas has to be appropriated by Congress. Right. execute the laws and so now where it looks like there's a quid pro quo for for you to get a prosecutor fired because they're looking into your son's company and there's some you know what was what was biden's justification of wanting the guy fired did he have a different narrative yeah well what's you know he doesn't have anything i mean the the press which is now american pravda all rushed out to say you you know, no, no, no. It was because the prosecutor was corrupt and see, that's why he was. Oh,

we care about their corruption. Right. So it was about protecting corrupt prosecutor. Did they say what he was corrupt about? Was he? No, they just know that over and over again, you know,

there's, there's very little to support. There's no, there's no like the, wow. Isn't that fucking amazing. Yeah. And that prosecutor has since been interviewed uh on on u.s television right uh i don't know i i think i think i think

a hannity interviewed him i think in studio yes i i've seen things you know transcripts of interviews with him where he's like you know i didn't i didn't i wasn't corrupt in fact i was investigating corruption that was the whole point but uk Ukraine is notoriously corrupt, has been for a long time. And so you could probably find, it's one of those things like, and what do we call corruption? A lot of what we call corruption, I used to run into this in Afghanistan. A lot of what we call corruption is just the way the world works in different parts of, in other other parts of the world like we we it is expected it was fully expected in when i was in afghanistan that if you got a job and you were put in a place of power you couldn't come back to your village if you didn't get everybody around

you like if you didn't find a way to help that money flow to your cousin ed and your brother joe and whatever like it that was the the expectation was of course you would get of course you would have nepotism of course you would of course you would get you you couldn't show your face in public if you didn't you know entirely tribal yeah it's tribal first you know i mean things things started loyalty starts from the family unit and works its way outward and And so the idea that you would have, you would put government interests above your, you know, getting your brother a job is ridiculous. You know, that notion is crazy. So could you summarize then for me as a takeaway, happened yesterday in the supreme court yeah the supreme court said what it's always said the president has immune absolute immunity for acts that are within his core constitutional competencies he's got presumptive immunity out to the outer limits

of his official actions and then outside of that if he does things unofficially and so you have to make a threshold decision for things he does unofficial. You know, he has no immunity. So like blowing up the Nordic pipeline immunity. No, I wouldn't think so. I wouldn't think so. But but it's a but it's a big why? Because it's not within his constitutional right to do that. Yeah.

Right. You know, to tube somebody else's. But now you could argue, ah, he does. I mean, now we get into the, is it palpably and manifestly outside of his, manifestly or palpably beyond his authority? Because the president does, now we get into all these things. What about all the things that the president orders and orders the this, you know, orders the CIA to do, and you have this plausible deniability, you know, like Obama killed an American,

had drone struck a, an American, Anwar al-Awlaki, and is a teenage boy. No due process. Those were American citizens. Yeah. They were,

they were overseas and they were, you could argue, Hey, they took up the uniforms, but he never made any of those findings. He just asserted the authority to kill an American with no due process, you know? And so that,

that, what would be it for sure? You don't have the authority, uh, like, um, uh, raping a woman.

That would be like, there's no way around, like you couldn't argue that. Yeah. You're not gonna, you're not gonna float that one by anybody. I wouldn't think wouldn't think right where is that in where is that in the job description right okay and that that's what it comes down to is where how can you how do you um tie the the thing that you did how do you tie that to back to your um your job as president of the united states it's tough because we want to protect the president

um we want to protect the president from getting criminally prosecuted while looking out for our best interests right but you don't want fucking hitler being like hey it's in the country's best interest to kill all the jews right rightifestly and palpably outside of his authority. You can't target a particular group. I mean, there'd be a lot of things that I would think that would pretty quickly fall outside that ambit. But we've had lawless presidents for a while and the Biden regime has been openly stated that they would be lawless. I mean, has done that repeatedly. All the mandates, the vaccine mandates, there's no federal authority. The president has no authority to mandate vaccines. Never has. I mean, they had to explain that. The Supreme Court had to. But I

mean, over and over again, you know, there's no presidential authority to grant loan, you know, forgiveness for college students because you want them to vote for you. That's spending somebody else's money. That's your money that's being spent on people who took out loans. You could argue bailouts are the same thing for banks. As far as I'm concerned, they should have been allowed to fail. But we've been lawless for quite some time now're kind of we're all living in this weird world where you know the supreme court issues statements like this that in theory sound good but you go back and you go yeah but we've been operating lawlessly for quite some time you go well yeah i mean look we've been at war for how long when was the last declaration of war i don't know when is it last declaration of war as far as i

know is world war ii so we had korea so vietnam war vietnam wasn't it no there's a police action you know uh we've had all these things that's what uh led to the war powers act and i think 73 i mean we've had this ongoing you know where presidents are now we used for the gulf war all of that we use the aumf the use for the Gulf War, all of that, we use the AUMF, the authorization for the use of military force. Congress is fundamentally punted on its war power, on the ability to declare war and allowed presidents to be fucking around in countries all over the world, dropping bombs in Syria, drone striking in the tribal areas, dropping bombs in Iraq. I mean, you give someone that power.

I mean, it's funny to me. Tolkien wrote The Lord of the Rings quite a while ago, and he couldn't have been more explicit about it. You know, it's called the ring of power, and nobody can resist it. No mortal man can resist its call. And it's like, how much more explicit does he have to be? And yet we continue to do the same shit over and over again, know like not not getting that power corrupts you know it really does every time some asshole's sitting in the white house man there's no power that he doesn't think he can assert for himself that's just true trump trump is as anybody you know i was thinking about um uh the difference that think about the ramifications you know you take all

it could be a whole show but you take of all the arguments that Trump was behind the insurrection. And versus what Obama said regarding the war on cops. Right. And it would be much easier to argue that Obama got shitloads of cops and shitload of black people killed. Of course, then it would be to argue that uh trump was somehow behind uh the insurrection hey tell me about your podcast hey uh we've recorded two episodes i got jay vera the mighty jay vera is trying to trying to help me put my ramblings together and so we're on episode three is it on youtube not yet i haven't put it up we were about to do i'll send you links to it so you can look at it and have a chuckle, but we've done two. I've looked at the first two. Um,

and at first I was kind of cringy. I wish, I wish Jay, like, I think it helps to have Jay talk a little more, but he's been letting me ramble right now. I figured we'd picked up. I've been writing. It's hard. It's hard in the beginning to get used to yourself. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm, I figured I'd started, I start with the beginning of my career. So I'm about 11 on my substack. This is kind of going with the substack where I write the abject lesson, but I've been writing,

I'm on piece number 11, I think, but it's called Aviation Mishap Storytime. And so I've been writing about all of the crashes and mishaps I was involved in or, you know, involved with or knew about or participated in or had some insight into. And I'm, I'm still, I've still got three or four more to go and just talking through all of those. So that's this, I did a series on my time living in China. I'll probably do some podcasts on that. Yeah. So I'm going to go through just different, probably I'll just do it career wise. Like I'm starting with my first career, which was as a pilot. And then I'll work my way through some of the cases I was a part of, like including, you know, what got me into the vaccine stuff when defending folks who refused the anthrax vaccine back in the nineties, my first cases.

How is that case coming? Is it always moving forward? Yeah. Yeah. We're, we're doing great. We've got motions for judgment on the administrative record. We've got some, some good, um, uh, some, some good, good stuff going on there. Yeah. Where I don't see how we lose to be honest with you, but you know, anything can happen. Do you know how many, um, are you allowed to say how many clients or how many people are involved in the suit? We're close to a thousand clients right now. And the class, we're relatively certain that the classes, we've got three class action cases in the court of federal claims. And one, one of them is for Coasties. And we think there's about 1500 of those people who, who qualify. We've got several hundred already signed up. We've got a big chunk of the Coasties.

And then we've got one for all the active duty folks title 10 folks who got kicked off of orders and shit can't and there's about 8 500 of those people so between the coasties and uh active duty folks who got kicked off of orders and all that you're talking about maybe 10 000 people total and then we have another class for all the coast excuse me for all national guardsmen who they shit canned who wouldn't take the vaccine cause the uptake was much lower in the national guard. Cause they were like, I got a day job. I'm not taking this each shit. So they only had like 40, 50% uptake rates. So what, um, what, uh, secretary of defense Austin did was people who didn't take the vaccine, they cut funding for all of their orders. So they just were like, Nope, no money for you.

And just cut their orders, cut the funding for them. And that was like 70,000 people. It was almost 10% of the entire national guard. They shit can't. And now they're wondering why we're having a recruiting crisis. I talked to, um, you know, there's a book that came, came out. It's been big on Fox. Uh, Pete Hegseth wrote a book called, uh, the war on warriors and Hegseth is a host on Fox. He's also a Minnesota national guardsman and he did a couple tours in Iraq. And I think Hegseth actually has a combat V on his, I don't know if he's got a combat V, but I think he's got a combat action ribbon or something. But anyway, Pete Hegseth, the Fox host was a guardsman and he wrote a book. I've got that one. Yeah. The war on warriors. And he's, I'm a little ways into that one, but I reached out to him and had a conversation with him, talked to him about

it. Super nice guy. He was really, really nice. And you know, he's like, Hey, we're, we're destroying the, uh, the military is being systematically destroyed. And he absolutely says that it, uh, the Vax was part of it. And we, we had a really very nice chat. Well, in fact, I had a chat with him while I was, uh, while I was out at Greg's last time, I had to run over to Starbucks to get some cell coverage. And I talked to him for about 15 minutes while I was over there getting a, he's written a bunch of books. Yeah. He said several, this one's I haven't read his other stuff, but this one's good, but

he knows what they call the war on warriors. Yeah. The war on warriors. Yep. Yep. Available on Amazon all over. And he's doing a little book tour right now and so he he was super cool and said he'd support i told him about the litigation what we were doing and he was like yeah right on i said i don't know i've used the word purge he's like i use that word in the book he's like i use the word purge he said the same thing what's going on in the military is a purge of people of conscience

so they kicked out you know the vax became fundamentally a loyalty test. And if you wouldn't take, if you wouldn't get, you know, vaccinated, then they didn't care about your religious accommodation request. That's, that's part of at the heart of our lawsuits is you had tens of thousands of military members who said, Hey, I've got religious objections to taking this thing. tens of thousands of military members who said, Hey, I've got religious objections to taking this thing. And the military fundamentally denied all of those fundamentally did not grant ignored its obligations under RFRA and all of that. And so we're, we're suing on behalf of those people. They got kicked out for no reason. And so, um, you know, we're, we're trying to get back pay and reinstatement and all that promotions for people who've got promotions pulled.

Like they had guys you know if you got if you were um already selected for promotion you're just waiting to pin it on so you've already been selected they said you you're good enough to be a major you know whatever lieutenant colonel we've got them all at different ranks and then people were like well i don't want to take the vaccine they're like oh give me that promotion back you know we had a guy who had already pinned oh yeah we had a guy who pinned it on they called him back in made him take it off they were like made him a first class and then he's like all right you know and they're like nope give me that back whoop pulled it right back off of his collar oh my god

yeah happened to a lot of people anybody who and so and here's the amazing thing they did it even though you had a religious accommodation accommodation pending and i'm like well how can you call it an accommodation process if you're presumptively without having adjudicated the accommodation, you're presumptively saying anybody who's not vaccinated isn't eligible for schools, promotion, command. I had a client who was on Fox. That is what they're saying. Right. So I said, it's not a religious accommodation process is a religious targeting process. wow i mean it there's no if there's no accommodation then it's not an accommodation process it's a targeting process you go hey we have this process you can apply for an accommodation as soon as you apply for

accommodation they go you're fired that's not religious accommodation process that's religious targeting process right wow and so you're just you and so i would have never come up with that now you would have if you lived it like i had you would have no no that's what i know i said ai would never have come up with ai would never have come up right ai would that's why you need people as lawyers oh sure you need the white-haired men as lawyers yeah yeah for sure yeah i should start wearing one of those wigs i need to get one of those plus i got a bald spot back here so it probably would help hey you know what's fascinating is uh this this always i always

remember this um the 11 000 exemptions in new zealand which was one of the countries that was like straight pressing everyone oh yeah their their 11 000 exemptions were all given to first responders interesting yeah to medical staff and first responders like they knew like they knew like hey don't do the experimental drug on the people who are going to need to take care of the people. Yeah. Yeah. Which is, which is kind of interesting. I mean, look, we had, we got a mutual friend who got canned one of the leading nephrologists in the world. Right. And he was, and he was treating people all during the pandemic. All this is the part that always kills me. And it's one of the strongest arguments I think we have is these people were heroes for the first 15 months of the pandemic when there was no vaccine.

Right. And then suddenly when the government's preferred pharmaceutical partner had a vaccine, if you didn't take it. So you survived 15 months. You volunteered and survived in this environment where you were like, hey, I'm out there i'm on the front lines of it right rah rah heroes remember we had to go remember how we had to cheer every night at 11 o'clock for the first responders and the nurses and all that remember that bullshit yeah right all that cult-like behavior as soon as pharmaceutical companies had a preferred vac you know preferred medical intervention if you didn't take it you went from being a hero to a zero overnight.

So in other words, you live through 15 months of the most dangerous part of the pandemic, treating people right up close while they're sneezing, coughing, and putting sputum and mucus on you. And you're like, I'm going to do it anyway. I love these people. I don't care. There's no vaccine, whatever. My immune system will do it. You were a big hero. And then it's like, oh, now we have this experimental gene therapy product and you got to take it. And you're like, man, you know, we're 15 months in, I mean, we're past the worst of it anyway. You know, do I really need this? I survived during the worst of it. Why, why do I need this now? I'm healthy. I'm young. And then they were like, you're a piece of shit. You know, it's just weird. I'm like, boom. As soon as the

government had a preferred pharmaceutical partner, now you were a piece of shit if you didn't take it makes no sense whatsoever none of it does hey dale this is a pretty crazy question i ask you but if you had kids would you give them any if you had to do it all over again no no no no no no no no never never never again yeah nope you've seen too far down now the rabbit hole like you're you're an expert on like how would they release the measles vaccine polio you've seen it all now like you're seeing okay once once once i saw behind the curtain and i'll tell you what happened when i defended the anthrax vaccine folks in 99 somebody sent me a binder of materials an attorney sent me a binder of materials that he had gotten from all these

congressional documents. Long story, but he sent me a binder materials. I got done with that three inch binder of materials. And I was like, Oh my God. I just, that was it.

And then the deeper I got into the case, the worse it got. And I just realized that this has been going on. Yeah. It's all, you know, turtles all the way down. You know, it really is. RFK was on Sean Ryan. Oh, really? I didn't see that one. I'll send you a link to the 12-minute,

and there's a 12-minute section in there where in 2000, I can't remember, one or 2006,dc is like oh shit we got a problem yeah we're we're seeing skyrocketing uh autoimmune diseases and something something's wrong we got a serious problem so they had an off-site meeting because they didn't want to have it on campus they wanted to have a secret meeting and he got the the papers and the correlation between vaccines and uh in autoimmune diseases and autism is higher than the correlation between smoking and lung cancer yeah higher way higher and it's like higher and he explains the math and i'm just like holy fuck gulf gulf war syndrome this really started in earnest in during the gulf

war and this is back in the quaint days so the the thought was that saddam had you know biological weapons and all that and so the dod went to the fda and this was back in the quaint days. So the, the thought was that Saddam had, you know, biological weapons and all that. And so the DOD went to the FDA and this was back in the quaint days when the FDA actually, when the DOD pretended that the FDA had authority to regulate this stuff. And so DOD went to FDA and asked for a waiver of what's called rule 50.23 D, which is the, the law of informed consent, which says that you can't give somebody something without their informed consent. And so they said, the DOD went to the FDA and said, hey, we need a waiver of the law of informed consent. And they kind of worked okay. The FDA was like, well, we've got to put all these conditions in place. You can't do this. I mean, blah, blah, blah. The DOD promised,

pinky swear, we'll do all the things you say and then of course they did none of them they lied subsequent investigation and what you had was all these investigations into gulf war illness and gulf war syndrome and all of that shit and it had nothing to do with bioweapons release or anything by the by the iraqis that was entirely self-inflicted wounds by all of the unlicensed um and experimental products that they made soldiers and sailors, airmen and Marines take during the Gulf War. That's what Gulf War illness resulted in. And that ultimately led to this statute, 10 U.S.C. 1107, that says only the president can waive a service member's right of informed consent. And they have to do so.

Only the president of the United States. Yeah. And it has to be done in writing pursuant to a request from the department of defense and he has to do so based on national security and he has to make findings and all of that so congress put that in effect and then uh when this thing came out the government ignored it and so that's that's one of the key points we're suing over and we got a judge finally to say hey what you know like i want to hear about this i want to hear some more so we're right now in the middle of preparing our discovery for the government, uh, to find out, like we know, for example, I mean, the whole country fell for it. They never

had the license vaccines, you know, they licensed the vaccine. Then the same day they licensed that they pulled it off the market and then everybody still got the experimental one. So it's wait, wait, explain that to me. So, so it was a psyop. So on August 23rd of 2021, August 23rd, wait, explain that to me. So it was a PSYOP. So on August 23rd of 2021, August 23rd, 2021, the FDA made this big announcement that we licensed the vaccine. We licensed Comirnaty, C-O-M-I-R-N-A-T-Y, Comirnaty was licensed. was licensed. And then what they didn't tell you was the same day they licensed it, its licensure approval date was August 23rd and its market ending date was also August 23rd. So the same day they licensed it, they also pulled it from the market. And then what they did was they put in a footnote, well, we think this is good enough. It looks close enough. We don't have any concerns about safety or regarding the other Pfizer BNT162B2, which was the EUA, the emergency use authorized product. So they licensed a product, pulled it from the market the same day

they licensed it, told everybody, see, licensed, but they didn't have any of it and you can look at the the fda regulatory letters they they explicitly say it's not available the licensed product is not available in sufficient quantity therefore um you can use this one instead well that's completely illegal you can't substitute a drug in for another drug unless it's declared bioequivalent there's a whole process am i drinking pepsi or am i drinking coke right and so they just said they said good enough people the entire u.s government fell for a psyop and people don't know but they were tripping as you on do you ever see do you ever like say stuff to the judge and you're watching his face to be like to see if he gets it and he's like what so when i was a captain this was what was this is what made me get myself passed over and get out of the marine corps was i had this judge, and I had practiced a lot in front of him.

And I could see there was a moment where I could see he got it. And I could see- Regarding the anthrax vaccine. Yeah, this is with the anthrax vaccine. I was like, it's not licensed. It was all the same shit. They just do it over and over again. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The polio vaccine is the same thing. When I read the book on it, I'm like, oh, shit, this is the exact same shit they just do it over and over again yeah yeah yeah yeah and so it's the same thing when i read the book i'm like oh shit this is the exact same scam they did with yes they just keep rerunning the same and people you know people fall for it yeah and so when i saw the look in his eyes and i could see the realization and i could also see him go i'm not gonna like he realized that if he ruled in my favor, he would be shutting down the entire DOD anthrax vaccine program. And so what he said was his punt was, well, this is a political question. And so it's therefore not, not cognizable by that. He just basically punted. He wanted no part of it. And I still love the guy. I think he's a good,

a good dude, but he shrank from it. He wasn't willing to step in front of that train he wasn't gonna have his career it's that bad just end of his career like he ends a billion dollar business and so he's toast yeah his career's going nowhere after that you think that guy's getting promoted you think he won't be removed as a judge as a military judge come on i've got a case i've got i've got a declarer on the other hand dudes are dying right right i've got a i've got a case pending it's uh um in front of a judge in texas that's been pending for nine almost nine months now the rule and i filed a motion you know blah blah blah but it doesn't really matter procedurally but that that case has been pending and it's it's asking for a declaratory judgment about what i just told you about. It's basically in federal

district court saying, I want a declaration that the, that the DOD does not have the authority to swap in and unlicensed product absent the FDA, you know, absent the manufacturer complying with all the things to establish bioequivalency and all that following the law, basically. I mean, nine months won't touch it. Isn't it just logical? Like, hey, if this one got licensed and you're substituting with this one, get this one licensed too. What's the big deal?

Yeah, because the thing is they're not made by the same process. So what they did was they use a very – these mRNA products are extraordinarily hard to make. They're extremely unstable, and they have to be kept at really low temperatures. And so there's all kinds of difficulties around this. So what they did was for the licensed product, they used a very, very rigorous process. It's lengthy. It takes a long time to make, and it's very hard. You can't make vaccine. It costs a lot of money and you can't make vaccines.

You can't just rip them out by the billions for the whole world. And so they used one process for the licensed one and then pull it from the market. And then they use this other one that uses a less rigorous process to manufacture. And then they go, ah, it's close enough. Come on, good enough in a footnote. And that's what everybody got. That's BNT-162b2. That was the experimental. But the other thing is this, the real thing that's going on is the EUA product has PrEP Act immunity. The licensed product doesn't. So if I'm a drug

manufacturer and there's a licensed drug and then you take it and you're harmed, you hear this all the time, like drugs get pulled from the market because it turns out they have all these adverse effects after it's already been licensed. So if it's licensed and then people take it and they're harmed, then you've got legal recourse against the manufacturer. But if it's the EUA product pursuant to an emergency use authorization, the PrEP Act kicks in and the PrEP Act is so far unbreakable. Basically, the pharmaceutical companies, the manufacturers have complete immunity. So that's why they did it. They got a drug license they use that for a psyop they switched in the unlicensed product and then but that unlicensed

product has complete immunity so if it hurts people oh and that's what sevag in here was saying it's all about product liability bingo yeah yeah bingo That's right. They use the EUA product because it's got PrEP Act liability and the licensed product they don't want to use because then the manufacturers could be sued for the harms that result from it. And so that's why we're living in this regime. Pharmaceutical companies are fundamentally – don't make me say it, but but yeah those places are bad and they're filled with bad people that's all there is to it period can't wait to see you next here's your black pill for the day yeah you're amazing hey I wonder when I'm going to see you next

do you have plans are you going to Idaho are you going to New York the broken science thing I'd never even heard of it until yesterday. I'd never even heard of it. At the email. Is Greg going? I have no idea. I got to see what.

I don't even think, I don't even know if Greg knows about it. Yeah. I'd be honest. I want to go have breakfast with them though. And I'll ask him. I saw, I saw, I was on a text thread yesterday where someone asked Greg, Hey, are you going to this? And Greg didn't respond.

Yeah. Maggie's due on august she's having the baby on august 12th and when's the event in new york july 11th but she's she's you know you've seen her i mean she's way along here and they're getting ready to head up to uh head up to idaho and so i might try i told them i'd see them before she has the baby so i'd like to get up to idaho with them we might might go up and see him in Idaho. I can't imagine him going. Yeah. It seems unlikely.

Yeah. He, I mean, he's going, like you said, he's going to Idaho. He's going to want to get settled. Yeah.

Yeah. Plus he's got new toys and that new pier and all that. Hey, tell me if you're going up there, I want to try to go up there so I can hang with you. Oh, absolutely. I'll let you know before I go,

I'll reach out. I'd love to go, you know, kids, the whole nine yards. Let's go up there and just can hang with you oh absolutely i'll let you know before i go i'll reach out i'd love to go you know kids the whole nine yards let's go up there and just the dart gun wars uh there a lot of fun yeah dart gun wars at his place and i read had a blast with you he was telling my boys about it and i was listening he's like dale was there we had a huge nerf war oh yeah yeah gatling gun oh yeah yeah and what was great was how was uh you know when you can sneak up they let you

use it too right they let you oh they didn't let anything i took i did i just i was carrying out executions you stormed the seven-year-old oh yeah i was just carrying out straight up executions on those kids you know like they'd walk i'd be hidden behind a thing they'd walk by i just put it right in the back of their head and be like pow you know right in my head they loved you shooting the gatling gun at them they were loving that uncle dale was laying down the law i'm telling you all right uh dale uh there were too many nice comments to read um that's all right about you everyone was just like why is dale why has it been so long since dale's been on blah blah blah so he got punched in the face for running for running his mouth.

Look at this. I appreciate you coming on. I texted you really late last night and asked you to come on and explain the Trump thing to me. I appreciate you. And as soon as the podcast launches, let me know. We'll have you back on and make fun of you. Yeah, perfect. That'll be great.

All right, brother. Love you to death. Love you, Savvy. Hey, good to see you as always. You're man of the booth, making it work. Caleb Beaver. All right, Dale. Ciao.

All right, later. Dale, so Ryan. All right. Okay. What's going on here? I was wondering if that was, that Trump thing was going to create some sort of like slippery slope for other presidents. Yeah, you can't you can't have the president be.

I feel like that's what happened. I feel like so many places I see now people are in just paralysis because of all the woke shit. Everyone's just terrified to act, you know and uh that that would definitely cause all sorts of paralysis in the white house who the fuck would want to be president if you could be charged with any fucking thing you do right i thought it was interesting the who's at sonia sotomayor said something pardon me say it again so i saw something i think was it sonia sotomayor one of the supreme court justices yeah she said something about how it's like oh well he could use she whoever

the president is could use seal team six to assassinate their political rivals or whatever and I just thought it was so bizarre that that would I don't know I just I think she I think she has the same brain rot as Joe

Biden I'm not even joking when I look at her. Probably pretty similar. All right. I'm off. What's today? Tuesday? Tuesday. Tuesday.

Susan has his show. Oh, my God, guys. 11 a.m. Holy shit. The show you don't want to miss the show of shows is it at 11? 2 hours? let's find out

uh Susan Hiller will be getting on I have not talked to them about the show but I have to guess it's going to be a recap of the last couple months. It's going to be probably going to be wild.

Yeah, it's at 11 Pacific Standard Time. Dale on the Mount Rushmore of Savon Guest. Yeah, for sure. For sure. What did you say, Caleb? What would you say? Yep. It's at 11 Pacific standard time. The show with Susan Hiller.

Yeah, that's going to be nuts. I can't wait. That's going to be fun. I'm going to kind of be on the edge of my seat. So, um, uh,

so Dylan gets to just Dylan basically gets to just smash Ariel whenever he wants I mean any good husband should be able to right dude between 9 her window is between 9am and 10pm and she feels bad for that because it's games prep I hope Dylan takes time off in the morning I hope he doesn't start work till like 1030 yeah he's got hope dylan takes time off in the morning i hope he doesn't start work till like 10 30 yeah he's got a 13 hour window oh my goodness that is awesome i'm so happy for him because in my mind they don't um

the the games girls don't fuck i don't know why i feel like during this time of the year, you're like, hell no, I'm not doing shit. I just think they, they don't at all period all year that they have, that they have too many issues. Nah, you know what I mean?

Like they're obsessive compulsive or they're just weirdos. Like they just don't feel like it's like, I just don't think of them as sexual creatures. It's like the Olympics where everybody, not like where everybody gets together and fucks, but like you have these super high level athletes and they're, they need some, something to do.

Olympic village is just a, just a, just a fuck fest. Just a fuck fest. Okay. I'm going to fuck someone on the hockey team this year on the volleyball team. Yeah. You've got to have like a list right every checklist try to get as many sports as possible What is this I haven't seen this

I Have a question. All right. I keep saying this stuff when I'm at family events, but now they don't let me come back What's the best way to force myself into Thanksgiving dinner? Is there some sort of group I can call? a family member of mine was saying that, um, they don't think Biden was adequately prepared for the, uh, debate. Oh, no shit.

And I'm just like, when I heard that, I was just like, what do you mean adequately? Like he was full. Like that was the, that was their justification. That was their justification for the shit show, that he wasn't prepared.

He'd just been sitting around all week smoking weed, watching fucking old Simpsons episodes. It's like, come on, dude. Sure, yeah. Really? I feel like it's just a full-blown panic. Everybody's trying to redirect to something else. They're trying to pivot the conversation to be something else.

to something else. They're trying to pivot the conversation to be something else, you know? It's just, I mean, I don't know. It's pretty shitty on both sides. Okay. I'll see you guys in the chat at 11 a.m. Love you guys. Caleb, thank you.

I think it's going to be, this might be our biggest show of the month, by the way. I think this one's going to be a massive show over 10,000 views. It's going to be, uh, on, on both, uh,

YouTube and then another 10,000 on iTunes. Sick. All right. Uh, love you guys. Bye.