The Sevan Podcast - Chad Sorentino | Affiliate Series

Episode Date: June 25, 2024

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Good to have you on, Chad. Thank you so much. Great to be on. My dad's visiting from out of town. And then at the last minute, I realized, and then he woke up like five minutes before the show started. And I just looked at him like, this man needs a cup of coffee. So I popped his coffee.

I was like, he's late. But pop his coffee. You can man needs a cup of coffee. So I popped his coffee. I was late. But Papa's coffee. You can't leave a man without coffee at 7. Oh, I got mine right here. Nice, nice. Hey, where are you in? Florida. Miami Lakes, Florida.

Oh, awesome. You know, I think you've been on my radar since I started the podcast. And I think people have been telling me, dude, you've got to get this guy Chad on the podcast. You've got to get this guy Chad on the podcast. And I know we have a little bit of a relationship through Instagram. So great to finally meet you. Yeah. And as I dug into you, the first thing I couldn't believe that you're already retired from the U.S. military. You did 21 years?

Yeah, 21 years. Yeah, I retired officially in December of last year. I can't believe how young you look, and you've already had that under your belt. That's crazy, dude. Congratulations. Thank you. How old are you? 40.

Wow. So you went in at 19, if my math is correct. Well, so I grew up in Columbus, Ohio. I grew up in a really, really nice area. I had a great family, great school. And the norm was everyone just goes to Ohio State, OU, a really nice school within the area. And I had planned on going to Toledo or Marshall for sports broadcasting. And September 11th happened my senior year. And so it happened September 11th. My birthday was September 28th. I think like October 10th, I enlisted in the army. And then I had that entire year to kind of finish and then i went off to boot camp can you remember uh chad um will you pronounce your last name for me

sorrentino sorrentino oh that's easy um chad will you tell me uh what that was like being 19 years old, 9-11, and what inspired going to enlisting? Is that what it's called? Enlisting? Yeah. Enlisting. Yeah. Because you go to the officer track or you go to the enlisted track. And I remember I was always like the kid that was, I was always super smart, but I just didn't apply myself. I had like my rolled up homework that I didn't do in my back pocket. I would ask the cute girl for a pencil, you know, in class. And and then I would get really good grades on test. And I was always a kid. I was always in the hallway.

In fact, like my mom would come to school and I'd be in the hallway in math class because I'd be getting in trouble. But so I never really like had like this trajectory. I just thought like I would go to college and do something. like this trajectory. I just thought like I would go to college and do something. But I always had just a great appreciation for the military because my grandpa served and all my uncle served too as well. And I remember I was sitting in music appreciation class and we were just kind of hanging out. I think we were like getting ready to do a project and the teacher wheels into TV and we're just watching it and we're just kind of dumbfounded by it. And then the second plane hit and then the Pentagon hit.

And then I was like, this is for some reason, whatever happened to me. I was like, this is the real deal. And everyone kind of freaked out. And my mom told me, and I vaguely remember this, but my mom told me that I called her because I had called the middle school down the road and the elementary school just to ask how my two sisters were. Wow. And I called my mom from a pay phone and I said, hey, we're all OK. And from that moment forward, I think my mom kind of realized like, oh, like he's got a different path.

And I remember it was, it was the most cliche army recruiting thing that they've ever done. Like, I want to say like three days after the army came and explained to our school, what, what happened. And I was like, look, I got to do this. And from that moment forward, you know what I mean? I haven't looked back and I've been serving ever since in some capacity some way it's it's interesting um i i was talking to someone just yesterday and they were talking about uh like the how desperate situations are,

how desperate they're like, how desperate must situations be in South America and Latin America that people would travel up from there and make the journey to the United States. And I said, I hear you, but, but bear with me at 20 years old, me and four of my friends who lived in Argentina would have one night sitting around, got the harebrained idea that we're going to go to the U.S. border, and we would have done it.

As a 20-year-old man, boy, you'll just make decisions. Yeah, exactly. Like we don't care. Like at 23, I didn't care if there would have been anarchy in the United States. I just didn't – young men are just a different breed. Like we're, we're not, we're not, go ahead, go ahead. You haven't experienced consequence yet. Yeah. You know, the biggest, the biggest consequence you have is like, you know, your, your girlfriend caught you passing a note to another girl, you know what I mean? Or

like three-way calling was invented or God, you're old passing a note. God, you're old. So I remember my parents, when I got my car, you know, they didn't really have a curfew, but they said like, Hey, look, like we're going to kick in that door at six in the morning every day. And you're going to go to school. And my, my dad was a motivational speaker and my first car was a Ford Windstar and it was his company's called humor consultants. It was all over the van. And so that was my first car,

but I had to pay for gas and I think I had to pay for insurance later on. So I had to have a job. So you said, Hey, it's a van. You had a van. Oh yeah. It was called a humor van. We used to jump the railroad tracks. I mean, it was like, it was kind of like a thing if you jumped the railroad tracks in the humor van. Yeah. But yeah yeah so i knew kids i knew kids who drove every kind of car i never knew a kid who drove a minivan that's wild it was the middle

green one but white and then it had lettering all over it and then my friends would call and prank and say that like i was up to no good um i just saw your company car like run over a dog some like and i'd be getting i'd be up in my room and my dad would yell down at me. He's like, hey, why am I getting this phone call? Then if he'd come back, it was just my friends pranking. Growing up and having them teach me consequence, if I were to stay up late, they're still kicking in the door and I have to go to school. If I didn't go to a job that I don't get gas in my car, I don't get to go play with my friends. I'm not good at wrestling. If I stay up too late, you know what I mean? So they really taught me, you know, the, the value of consequences, but still, when I still

enlisted, I had no clue about any consequence that could come my way. You wrestled in high school? Yes. All four years? Three years. I wrestled 112 pounds. Wow. And which years did you wrestle? Sophomore, junior, senior? Sophomore, junior, senior. Freshman year, I played soccer. And then I tried out for the hockey team, my, uh, sophomore year and I didn't make it. I was always like, I was the smallest kid out there and I was always in the penalty box. My dad said, he's like, I'm not coming to your, to the game. If you're just going to sit in a penalty box, uh, what would you get penalties for?

Uh, just being aggressive. Yeah. It's like not, you know, you know, like, like you're not good. So you like run around and and you try to be aggressive. No, I don't, but I can imagine. I don't, but I can imagine. But no, then wrestling took off and then I was really good at that. And that's where my established discipline came in. You didn't get to have Thanksgiving because you were beginning to cut weight. And it didn't matter what you ate It mattered like how much it weighed. So like when the coach would say you

could have a half a slice of pizza, it was like the greatest thing. So I think that's where a lot of my like internal discipline and, and, uh, self-awareness began. Uh, Danielle, uh, Chad is the goat caution CrossFit. That's your, that's, that's where you train caution CrossFit. Yeah. I'm the, I'm the general manager there. We have two locations. Crazy. And how long have you been the general manager there? Since I retired at this. Okay. I made a really, really big decision, uh, like days up to me leaving Miami or not. And, you know, it, it came down to, uh, uh, a beautiful woman and a community that I just felt, felt right to stay at. And that beautiful woman's your wife?

No, it's my girlfriend. Girlfriend. Okay. Uh, for me, they're all interchangeable. Girlfriend, wife, fiance. Okay. Cause I did, I was with my girl for 20 years before we got married. So for me, it just became just a – I'll still accidentally call her my girlfriend. You can call her your ex-girlfriend because she's your wife. Truth. Facts. Yeah. Hey, if you – so it sounded like your parents trusted you, right?

Because – and they were proud of your grades. Why do you think wrestling stuck? Because wrestling is kind of hard. Why do you think that stuck? Not kind of hard. It's brutally hard. In high school, it's like you show up there and the coaches like run 10 miles, right? Even in practice. And why I'm good at burpees today is because of wrestling.

I would say burpees and running are probably my two things that why I'm good at burpees today is because of wrestling. Like I would say burpees and running are probably my two things that I'm really good at. And, um, I think, I think it was hard and I think that's why I liked it. I think it was difficult. I think I had that sense of validation. I think like, you know, when I went home, I knew I was giving my effort. It wasn't, it wasn't easy. And it was something that I think just came naturally. And, and that, that allowed me every day to like meet that challenge. Cause like school, school was easy. School was easy. You got to go hang out with your friends and you got to laugh and you got to

flirt and you know, you really didn't need to do homework. Like, and then especially it's like, you're going to join the army. Like I, I'm just waiting until I joined the army. So I think that that hard aspect and that difficulty was is what drove me to it. Hey, that's crazy. That is you summed. School was not easy for me, but I loved school for those two reasons. For me, I got to hang out with my friends and I got to see girls.

And to be honest, that's all I really cared about. I wish I would have had wrestling. I think that would have been an interesting, like a good piece of balance to it. But I didn't play any sports, but you're right that I just loved going and seeing my friends and seeing girls. That's it. That was it. Especially new girls like a new girl showed up. Oh, yeah.

And they didn't know like that you were like a dork or anything like that. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Already people are making fun of you in the uh comments let me uh see there was a great one in here already let me see if i can find this jake chapman never nice to the guests um uh i think chad needs a bigger watch do you have are you wearing a giant watch there you go there you go thank you jake for uh welcoming our host hazing every guest uh that comes on the show. I appreciate it. No, Chad does not have any piercings. No, I do not.

I don't even know that. And I know that. So so you you you go to you go in and it's do you remember your day, your first day in the Army, what the date was for that? October 22nd. Oh, sorry. October 23rd, 2002. I left what is called MEPS. It's like the Military Enlisted Processing Station. And you get on, I don't remember if we flew or took a bus to Ohio to Fort Leonard Wood, Missouri.

And I remember it was really late at night when we got off and you go into like a reception unit and you stay there for a couple of days. And I remember I just had like the worst, the worst stomach pains, like just nervousness. And then I'll never forget this. And then when I became a drill sergeant, I would do the same thing. But when we got picked up by our drill sergeants, we got put into like a big cattle van. So it's like where they big cattle like semi truck trailer and then a trailer would be where they would put cattle. But they had fixed it to put to transport soldiers. So we would go from the reception battalion to what we call like the actual company for our shark attack for when the drill sergeant yelled at us. And the drill sergeant was so nice to us. He's like, yeah, come on in,

move to the back. Just, you know, everyone's got their duffel bag. It's okay. And you just get there and just, just take a seat, sit down. And then like, you were like hiding your head and you would like peek up and the drill sergeant would be like, Hey, how you doing? And then as soon as we made like the final turn, boom, he just went off and just went full sin yelling at us. And I'm like, this is it. And so when I became a drill sergeant, I would do the same thing. I would get them on and I would be all nice to them. I was like, Hey, how you doing?

Yeah. Yeah. Sit down. Don't worry about it. Yeah. You'll get your cell phones. Don't worry. If you need to make a phone call, go ahead ahead and as soon as we made that same turn you know 10 years later i just went went off and i was always like this obviously the shortest one so i always had to establish myself as kind of like the crazy one you know i mean because i was with all these other drill sergeants that were just monsters and so i always had to like uh establish myself as the wild one so so you go in there were your parents pissed that you signed up this is the army So I always had to like establish myself as the wild one. So, so you go in there, were your parents pissed that you signed up? This is the army.

This is the army. My dad was super proud. My dad was really, really proud. And my mom was just scared. My mom's just a worrier at heart. You know, wash your hands all the time, take your shoes off. But I think she was really worried. But I think she also had some like real time resiliency within her own life because like her father went to World War Two and then all three of her brothers had enlisted and been to and back from Vietnam. So that was

something that that was. Yeah, that was something. And then her middle brother, Uncle David, actually made a career out of it for a while. And so I think she had that to hang her hat on and saw how great a man all four of them had turned out. And they were really proud. And they they and like I said, the community I grew up in, no one really joined the army because it was kind of like, I don't want to say this in a bad way, but it was kind of like a lower class thing that you should do. Sure. Especially like in central Ohio, where, you know, you're growing up in these beautiful homes. It was kind of different. I was kind of the first of my kind out of that area for a while. And then more people had enlisted after that.

Sure. Why would you go to the Army and jeopardize your life if uh things are good right if things are shitty and you're uh living in an apartment with five kids and a single mom and you turned 18 and you're like shit i gotta get out of here the the stepdad's been beating you your whole life i'm guessing that's like just the typical story right it's someone looking for something looking for something better looking for a place almost it's like a vacation looking from reprieve from the hardships of life. Well, you get, you get everything. Yeah. I mean, you get everything. And then you get this, like, you get this amazing leadership, you know, person in front of you, you get this drill sergeant,

whether it's, you know, a male or female who's there for you, you know, when you, when you wake up and when you go to bed and they're there to take care of you from, from morning to night and keep you safe, you know? So, and they tell you to do something and you don't have to think you just do it. Just do it. Super easy. You just do it. Yeah. Yeah. Wild. Uh, I'm trying to think if I ever ever i remember going to the post office and registering for the draft at 18 but i don't think i ever once i i never i i can't i've never once considered actually uh going to the military for me it seemed like as soon as i think about going to the military the very next thing is is like is am i gonna die right like that's the first it just literally goes

from one thought to the other i I'm going in the army. I'm going to die or I'm going to be in a situation where it's going to be me in a field facing another guy with a gun. And one of us isn't going home. That's, I mean, that's what I just go right there. I wonder if it has to do with like the time as well, because, you know, if it's like during, you know, this, you know, global war on terrorism where deployments were a constant thing. But then there was like the 90s during the be all you can be where we were kind of at peacetime for a while.

And it was kind of more of just like a profession or a career in a way more than like it's it's life or death or this harrowing thing. And we get and I didn't know anyone who went. So like I grew up I grew up with um you know you were supposed i grew up in the bay area in california and so um yeah those people were just different they weren't i like the whole entire community where i live was anti-military ton of respect ton of respect for cops ton of respect for cops, ton of respect for firefighters. But we were basically just all anti-military, right? It was like Reagan's the bad guy. We shouldn't be investing any money into the military.

I mean, that's how it was raised, that Reagan was basically the devil. And we just went around and killed people. Did when you went in, did you know that you were going to stay in for 20 years? No. No. And I remember i even got out so i even got out i got out for eight months um my first enlistment i had done you know back-to-back deployments i was on the fort bragg special reaction team you know i was uh just busy busy busy and i was married um and she we had just came back from Iraq together. And it was like my time to get out. And I was just kind of over it. And I was kind of like,

at that time, I was like very new to the leadership, like persona, and the leadership model and understanding what true leadership was. And I kind of was a little bit more selfish than I was, you know, self-serving or servant. And I got out and I remember we had moved to Louisville, Kentucky to Fort Knox. And it was in 2008. I remember when like the market crashed and there was no jobs and I was so naive. I was like, oh, police, because I was military police.

I was like, oh, it's a police company. They'll hire me, you know, a police force will hire me. And then no one was hiring. So I ended up like selling cars for a few months. And it was fun because I went. Really? You can't. I would think that too, that you could just get out of the military, especially you were an MP.

Is that what it is? I just know that. Yeah, they were at a higher. It was at a hiring freeze. I went to all the local places. I started to go through the Louisville Metro uh police process I took the PT test I took the pre-polygraph uh worksheet uh but in the meantime I needed to make money okay and I remember one day I look over and my ex-wife's put it on her boots and I'm putting on

a tie and I'm like dude come on like you're a you're a wuss like you know what I mean like you're a you're a wuss like you know what I mean like like you need to you need to get back in and when I got back in I had a I had a new sense of um I had a complete new sense of appreciation for the military I had a new sense of leadership I had a new sense of of just who I was as a human being and from then on that's when it became a career. And that's when, you know, I just devoted so much, so, so much to, you know, giving to my soldiers and giving to the community. Hey, what are all, no details too small. What are all the positions you held in the military? Starting from like, when you get in, what are you called into the Army? So you're enlisted.

When you come in, you're enlisted. And that's the title, just an enlisted man? No, you're an enlisted man, but your title is a private. So you start out as an E-1, and it goes all the way to E-9. Those are called the enlisted positions. So think of it as like a pay grade almost. So E-1, E-2, E-3. From there So think of it as like a pay grade almost. So E1, E2, E3. From there, there's actual titles within those pay grades.

Sorry, and do you get more authority as those go up also? You really don't get more authority until you hit E5, which is a sergeant. And that's when you become what is called a non-commissioned officer. And that is when you become a leader. You actually take an oath. You get promoted. That's where in the military police realm, you're a team leader and you're in charge of two soldiers. OK, bear with me here. Bear with me here. Of course. So when you go from E1 to E4, like like in Taekwondo, if you just put in the time, you get the belts.

I did Taekwondo. Yeah, I did Taekwondo growing up. Yeah. In jujitsu, it's not like that. In jujitsu, it doesn't matter how much time you put in if they don't think you're good enough you don't you don't move up in the army how is it we're going from e1 to e5 is it just putting in the time or do you is there a some merit component from e1 to e4 it's basically putting in the time as long as you don't have a dui you're not not a POS, you're not doing something illegal, immoral, or unethical, you're going to make it to specialist. You're going to make it to E4. To make it to sergeant, you have to have a certain, and it has changed over the years, so I could be wrong, but you have to go to what is called a promotion board. So you have your packet,

you dress up in your uniform, you sit in front of a panel of like E8s and E9s, like the highest people within like your, your battalion, which is like a thousand people. And they just fire off questions. And it's normally just to go from E4 to E5, not E1, E2, E3. Okay. No, no, no, no. So then from there, based upon your confidence, more than anything, I mean, you can almost get all that. When I sat on the boards, you know, and I was like reviewing people getting promoted. If you came in and you told me that, you know, you utilize your arms to press out to do a squat, but you told me as confident as anything. I'm like, look, this person is super confident. As long as they meet the standards, you know, we'll, we'll, we'll give them a go to, to proceed. But you come in and you get asked basic army questions. You know, you go through some scenario questions, maybe some hands-on from there, the board will recommend you to sergeant.

And then you have to meet a certain number of points, like in the big army will put out that military police for E-5s for the month of September have to meet 550 points. And if private or a specialist Sorrentino meets that criteria, then he'll get promoted that next month. So that occurs for E-5 and E-6 for Sergeant and Staff Sergeant. Did you get, when you went in front of the board to become an E5, did you get it the very first time? Yeah, I did. I did. And I actually had a big, big knee brace on too. So like when I had to stand up and do facing movements, it was pretty funny because I had torn up my knee like a couple of days prior. And how did you do that? Playing basketball.

Okay. Just on the base? Yeah. basketball okay just on the base yeah just just on the base for just pt okay and and you presented well you presented confident you weren't fat you presented well your hair was nice yeah it was nice i shaved i sat like this and i answered all the questions like i was supposed to can you give me an example of a question they might ask? Anything? Within your own words, how would you define leadership? Oh, wow. Wow. And do you study for that test? Yeah, you do. You do. And then there's different manuals that we have within the military. Something else would be example would be, what is the cyclic function of the M4 rifle? And then you would talk about how you would feed in the magazine. You would chamber that round into the chamber, and then you would fire it. And you would kind of go through that.

And like I said, you could get some wrong. I mean, because no one's perfect, but it's how you display yourself. It's confidence. It's how you wear your uniform. It's also questions, too, like basic military history. Do you have a care? Do you take the military as a profession rather than just something that you're doing? Do they ask you straight up then, uh, Hey, do, uh, um, uh, I don't know what they call you, but, uh, E4 Sorrentino, do you plan on staying

in 20 years? Like would they ask you that? That is a, that is a question. That is something too, that is kind of, you know, back in the day, if you were to say, you know what, I don't plan on making this career. I kind of want to do eight years. The, you know, that is kind of, you know, back in the day, if you were to say, you know what, I don't plan on making this career, I kind of want to do eight years, the, you know, the old kind of, you know, draconian leadership was like, why, why would I promote you? Why would I want to waste money? And why would we want to do this and waste time? You know, now to where it's more of, I wouldn't say it's softer, but I would say it's more of, you know, leadership is complicated and it's not the same for everybody. So you never know. You could have the best leader that has been in the military for eight years. But if you cut him off at like a lower rank and you don't allow him to have soldiers around him that he can inspire or she can inspire, then you're not doing a good service.

You know what I mean? To the military. You know, it's interesting what i realized about uh leadership i'd never even heard the word leadership until i was i don't know i'll make this up but in my 40s somewhere right i'd never even i never and it just wasn't in my in my vernacular i never used the word leadership i would never use it. But now that I'm 52, I realized one of the most powerful things, choices we have as a human being is who to pick as our leader. Because you get to choose your leader. And that's because you have to lead yourself. It's so, God, that's so true. You have to, well, that's emotional intelligence. That's having that self-awareness, right? And having that understanding of who you are and the clarity and who you can be, you have to be able to, for one, lead yourself, but then also be led to be a leader you know just like when a when a coach takes is takes a class of another coach you're you're a member like you're you're essentially a member within that class you

know and that and that's something we always work really hard in our gym too is is is making sure that like you can be led you can be taught you can be coached and and it's it's yeah it's it's a trip. And I'm trying to think. I'm guessing there's people who embody leadership habits, and we'll get into that in a second, what those habits are and define leadership. But there's people who embody leadership habits and behaviors, and people start to follow them. And then there's people who fake leadership. So when I was put into a leadership position, position at CrossFit, I just faked it because I didn't know. You don't think people were not just like, no, not around you. No. So, so there was a media, there was the

media team there and it was big and I'd been on the media team forever. And then when I became a leader, my thought was just to, um, the only thing that my, just to make them happy. Like that was my, my definition of leadership was, Hey, just make sure everyone's happy. And, you know, there's a, a piece to it there. But since then, um, in my, in my mentor in leadership, Dave Castro, cause I, I, I watched him lead. That was never a component of his leadership. I watched him lead. That was never a component of his leadership. He's one of my mentors too.

I've looked at him over the years. And in fact, I was able to ask him, he probably doesn't remember, but I ran into him at the airport in Wisconsin, in Madison. And I was kind of on the downslope of retiring this last year. And I had asked him, what's one thing that really matters as far as like getting out of the military?

And he's like, your rank doesn't matter anymore. You know, you have to be who you are. And just like his presence, you just like as a leader myself. And I'd like to say I pride myself and I am. You felt just him when he was walking through. You felt like just him coming. And I wanted to go and engage him. And of course, he was more than engaging and it really gave me a really good piece of advice.

Oh, about being yourself. Your rank doesn't matter anymore. Yeah, it doesn't. No one cares. Yeah, you know what I mean? And I've never heard Dave talk about leadership. I think he's a little turned off by the subject of it because of all the kind of pop leaders that are out there but what i ended up taking the biggest

leadership piece that i took away from him which i think my wife taught me also she had been trying to teach it to me for years but um don't uh integrity trumps uh kindness and making people happy over everything. That really people just want to follow someone with integrity. That way they can choose who their leader is. Right. Yeah. And then you attract a better person too.

Maybe that's what it is. I hadn't thought of it what you said. You choose someone with your emotional intelligence as opposed to your feelings. Well, I think it's just attracting when you see someone being genuine, you know, um, one of our core values of, uh, caution CrossFit is integrity, you know, whether that's the, you know, putting a score in modify doing the reps, right. You know, one thing that I always talk about is, and I know you may not be the best at it, but, you know, putting away your shopping cart or, um, don't tell anyone this Chad. I'm, I always put my show. I'm like the key. I knew you did. I knew you did. But just this thing around it. I just

like, fuck you. Don't tell me what to do. Like, up trash too i talk about it all the time like i can't tell you how many times i've seen my soldiers or other soldiers or even you know people just walk by a piece of trash and i understand if it's like a diaper or something gross but if it's something like like a used condom versus a used condom unused versus used unused pick it up Yeah still in the wrapper I would assess to see I would check the end maybe Once worn is fine as

Long as it's not it's not a finishing Condom Yeah well it all depends if you have Gloves if not but yeah if it's if Whatever floats your boat but yeah we would go on Runs in the army I would take my Soldiers on runs and we would go pick up trash around the base because that's contagious. That small little act is super contagious. And it says a lot about who you are. It really does. So, okay. So back to this list of things. So you go E1, E2, E3, E4, then you become an E5, and you said that's a sergeant?

Yeah, that's a sergeant. And that's now you have ducklings. You have people that are looking to you for guidance and direction. Yes, that is your, like in the MP world, when we were deployed, that would be my driver, and that would be my gunner. So then I would be the team leader in the Humvee or in the vehicle. Okay. And, um, and, and then, and then what goes after that? Then what was your, let's keep going down the list of, of your positions there. Cause 20 years, you must've been in a lot of positions. Sure. I was team leader. Um, and then as a Sergeant too,

I was also on the special reaction team, which is just like the army SWAT team. Then you go to staff Sergeant and then that's when you be, this is, this is key. This is when you become a leader of leaders because as a staff sergeant, you're now in charge of three other sergeants who are then in charge of two other people. So then you become a squad leader and the army as a whole works, um, with moving like squads around more tactically than anything. So like as a, as a squad leader. And the army as a whole works with moving like squads around more tactically than anything. So like as a squad, you would independently go out into sector, run, you know, missions, area reconnaissance, key leader engagements, work with the Iraqi police or any other type of host nation. And so that squad leader, that first is the very first position

where you're kind of an independent organic element within the military. And did you like that position, Staff Sergeant? I would say that's probably one of my favorite positions because at the same time, then you get to get back to the Army. So then in the Army, you would either go, for the most part, you would either become a recruiter or you would become a drill sergeant around that time and let me ask you this real quick when you're a staff sergeant do you still have are you still also a um sergeant meaning you have your sergeant sergeants you lead but you also have your group of guys the gunner and the driver

yeah that's a good question yeah okay you also have your own of guys, the gunner and the driver? Yeah, that's a good question. So you also have your own truck. You have your own element where, but then what you would, you would kind of have a senior specialist or a brand new sergeant as your driver who would also kind of get the truck up and then kind of take care of that one gun or two as well. So your group kind of had two sergeants in it? Almost, yeah. They're very independent. Okay. had two sergeants in it almost yeah they're very they're very independent okay then you would

either be a recruiter and then or you'd be a drill sergeant and recruiter like you would go to a strip mall and um yeah wow that's yeah okay but i never i never did that i i you know a lot of people a lot of people go down that path um because it's it's again giving back to the army and it's needed and it's it's's important, especially right now. It's more, more than ever, but you would go and you would then be a drill sergeant. And then during that time, is that what you did? Did you do drill sergeant? Okay. Yeah. And that was really cool because you learn how to manage your time down to the minute I would wake up at like 3.16 because like at 3.15, I wanted that extra minute. If I woke up at 3.20, it would be too much.

And then when you kicked in the doors at 4.30 for the soldiers, they were on a time hack. So like that, you had to get them up and get ready in 10 minutes. You had to get them to eat. You had to get them to PT. Then you had certain type of time hacks throughout the day for training because it was all in a tight window. So you really, as an individual person, learn how to manage your own personal time right down to the minute, but you also learn how to, because there were times where, especially later on in the cycle,

where it would be you by yourself on a Sunday where they'd just be cleaning weapons or cleaning the bay with like, you know, a thousand, like 250 soldiers. So then you would learn, you know, yourself how to manage so many different people. Hey, and that would explain Dave to me. I think he was a drill sergeant over for the SEALs. I think he was an instructor there. And you're describing how he managed his life and how he manages the CrossFit games and, and how all those other guys there who are in the military, why they work so well underneath them. That whole thing is like, I've never seen people sink their watches so many times.

I've never seen anyone sink their watches until I would see the behind the scenes at the CrossFit games, sink their watches and everything was to the minute judges came out at this minute. Athletes came out at this minute. This would go, then the cleanup crew to switch the weights would come out at this minute. And it was like to the minute. So he, he must've learned. And that's the way we worked at HQ too. That's where I learned about chain of command. Like I'd never heard of chain of command and the super duper value and importance of chain of command. And there would

be leaders there who didn't understand that because they didn't fit in and they would screw everything up, right? Because they would talk to someone out of the chain of command and then their boss wouldn't know what they were doing. And it, and it dis, I don't know if this is a word, but it would disempower people, right? So let's say if, if the guy at the top of the food chain is giving raises to the guy at the bottom of the food chain, you don't get any value out of the raise. You got to tell it to the dude below you. Hey, you can give the next, your team a raise. So then he gets that relationship with those guys. There were all sorts of things like that. That would be like the most simple. I learned,

I learned all that from Dave. Yeah. Yeah, no, it's, it's perfect. And, and I remember when I became a, when I became a platoon sergeant and I was in charge of 40 people and actually was then paired with an officer. So that's like your first time as an enlisted person being paired with an officer counterpart. And where was that? That was when you were a drill sergeant? No, that was when I was a platoon sergeant in Hawaii. And so you then are now mentoring this brand new lieutenant who just came out of West Point or college, but you also have 40 soldiers. So then you're in charge of those staff sergeants. But my my whenever I would ask for feedback and counseling sessions with my with my subordinates,

I would always ask them, you know, what's one thing I would do good? And they said, you know, you would always empower me. And I always thought I always thought that was something that I that I pride myself in was giving people the ability to make decisions. Just like, you know, in the military, we have something called Mission Command. And if you look at a very famous incident that occurred in history, the jumps by the airborne in D-Day, they understood what the mission was. They were briefed, you know, from the bottom person, what was the end state and how to get to the end state. were briefed, you know, from the bottom person, what was the end state and how to get to the end state. So when, you know, the soldiers jumped in Normandy and they all got discombobulated and lost, they were in packs of like two or three, but they knew the mission. So they were still able to

secure that whole backside of Normandy and of that invasion with like two or three people at a time. And so the same thing goes with, you know, anything and everything in life. If you empower people and you give them the in-state and you allow them to work, what not only what that does is it not only, you know, will get the job done and empower them, it also allows for innovation. They have a buy-in. They feel like they're actually part of the team. They want to come up and they want to do better. They want to improve. You know, it's, it's sparks that teamwork and that shared knowledge. Um, it's, it's funny you say that about the empowerment that ties in with something else you said, uh, before, but also, um, Dave would always give people opportunities too.

So there, I remember there being, um, uh, people on the team there and they'd be like, hey, let's have that guy do X, Y, Z. And someone would say they've never done it before. And Dave would go, so what? Now's their fucking time. Like, what are you doing? Are you holding people back? Are you giving people opportunity? And people would freak out. And that would also separate the herd, right? The people who were given that and they would say, also separate the herd right the people who were given that and they would say yes i'll do it and then come home and be like what the fuck i don't know what i'm doing but but i would say 90 of the time those people arose to the occasion and killed it and then they would all look back and be like fuck dave gave me that opportunity

he believed in me that's and now they can teach that to people. That's the cool thing. They can say, hey, look, I was there. You mean teach that behavior, teach that behavior of empowering people? Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. It is contagious like that. Okay, you went from drill sergeant then to platoon sergeant? Well, there was a small – I went back to Fort Knox, and I kind of had to do like staff time. I was like the operation sergeant. And then I was actually in charge of the SRT at Fort Knox for a little bit. What's SRT? I was like the special reaction team. Oh, okay. And then, but I was like the

operation sergeant for the military police detachment there. And so I got to work, you know, hand in hand with like the fire department on base with the people that were, you know, in charge of planning, like the big concerts and the different type of events that would happen. And that is kind of where I had a really good commander, um, who actually is the one who introduced me to CrossFit was during my time there in 2014. Cause I, I was like, I was a master fitness trainer. You know, I was at one time I was like 175 pounds, like low short stocky bodybuilder. Um, I could always run. And then I used to make fun of CrossFit. I, I thought it was just silly. I thought it was stupid. I mean, I was like, this is, this is, this is just like a gimmick.

I remember even the canine detachment led physical training one day and they did the workout seven. And that was my first CrossFit workout I did without any knowledge of CrossFit. And I was like half repping my handstand pushups. I wasn't doing anything right. And I had like this, I was like, oh, I got this time. And they're like, you didn't, but you know. And then I remember going into my commander's office because the op sergeant always, always takes the commander's intent and puts it out to the rest of the unit and puts it into fruition. And I'd always see supple leopard on his desk. And he would always talk about CrossFit. He had nanos like nano twos on, and this was 2014. And I was making fun of it,

making fun of it, making fun of it. And captain Han, I can call him old Nate Dog now since he's not in charge of me. But he's the one he's like, all right, you know, can. If you're making fun of it, I'm going to send you to level one on the Army's dime. And he sent me to the Mecca to CrossFit Mayhem in 2014, where Rich was there the entire time. And James Hobart was my flow master. Um, yeah. And it was at the, it was at the old place, the one next to the donut. And I remember I wore like my army PT shorts and like a dorky shirt. I remember rich making fun of me saying like, you know, what size do you want to medium? And then like during every breakout session,

I was the one that got caught into the middle. Like, and here I thought I was a master fitness trainer and I thought I at least had deadlifts down. Nope. And then when it came to the push jerk, they had to pull me to the side again, to go over the push jerk. Like James Hobart, like took me to the side during another break to kind of go over it. And then during the med ball workout, I was doing it wrong. And my, uh, coach rich was like yelling at me to keep going because he wanted my coach to fix me. And I probably did like, like 37 med ball cleans in a row with rich in my face. And I came home that, that Sunday instructor then, no, he was just there and he was there all day.

It was super nice and super kind. And like to have the dogs run around, you know, as you're taking the test and everything, it was just, you really felt that instant sense of community with him being there. I came home and I told my ex-wife, like I'm doing CrossFit and I built a gym in the backyard.

And that's what started my whole, I would say profession, my new profession now. Hey, was there a moment in the L one or was it like a slow click for you? Or was there a moment when you're like, Oh shit, this is for me. The thrusters. I was like, this is hard. This reminds me of wrestling practice. I'm not good at this at all and i'm getting like people were done and i thought i was fit and i think that right there realized like i took my own responsibility like i'm supposed to be the protector of my family i'm supposed to be the protector of this nation and there's people fitter than me so i want to i want to find something

that's going to allow me to be you know the baddest mofo anyone would ever encounter on the battlefield. And that's where I felt CrossFit was at. And what's fascinating about that is the thruster, you know, that that workout that Greg made Fran, the thruster pull up workout 21, 15, 9. That was the one at 15 years old that he made up. And it was the thrusters that was, you know, making him and his friends puke. And he's like, all right, this is the one. That's awesome. I didn't know that. I didn't know that.

That's cool. And I remember for me, totally, the thruster was the most, in 2006, that was the most fascinating thing to me. Like, wow, people are repping these out at 95 pounds. This is wild. Yeah, wild. Did you do Fran at that L1? No, it was the thrusters and then something else.

Was it the burpees? Was it the thrusters? Because I remember he used to do Fran. I remember your story that you would talk about. People started falling off the bars, and I think there was concern about lawsuits. Yeah, it was thrusters. It had to be thrusters and burpees it had to be it was like because i think when i redid it back in omaha when i redid my l1 it was thrusters and burpees and when you came back and and spoke to captain han were you like oh shit dude hey did you did you resent him for sending you at first or are you like fuck like you went into your l1 a hater right you're like a big hater

like this might as well be soul cycle it something i don't know what it was i was like dude i'm i'm in the army i was a drill sergeant i'm you know and then everyone started i remember everyone they're like all right get ready for the workout and everyone started putting on these like wrist wraps and knee sleeves i'm just standing there my in my stupid army shorts, no clue what's about to happen. And then it happened. So, um, and, and then, so, so when you came back, did you remember your first conversation with captain Han? Were you like, all right, dude, I'm going to eat crow. This is the shit. Yeah. I, I, I said, we're, I think we built a gym that had all rogue weights. I think we absolutely incorporated CrossFit three times a week.

Everyone was tired of hearing about it. And I remember my back shed. I had my own CrossFit gym in my back shed in Kentucky. And I did that all the way until I left for Hawaii. And then I joined an affiliate there. Oh, Christine Young, I did Fran in 2015. Oh, okay. So maybe, maybe, maybe it was just slowly being pulled out. Okay. So, so you, so you go back and then, um, and at that point you're a platoon sergeant. Were you a platoon sergeant

in Hawaii? Yeah. In Hawaii, I was a platoon sergeant. Then I was, uh, fortunate enough to kind of be like laterally promoted. And then I was a detachment sergeant. So was uh fortunate enough to kind of be like laterally promoted and then i was a detachment sergeant so i was in charge of like the law enforcement task for the army base in hawaii okay so so and and that's why you thought that when you were done there you're like shit if i was a police officer in an army base it'll be no problem what a great thing to have on my resume anyone will pick me up oh no no no no that was back in 2008 when that happened. Okay. And so then what happened after that? What happened after you were the, uh, detachment Sergeant? Well, I incorporated, I built a gym there too, as well. Um, brought some GHDs in, I was able to be part of my first affiliate in Hawaii, um, Archaos CrossFit. Now it's called jump. Now I think jump ship training, but that's where I really,

that's Seth's gym. I think so. It was, it was called Archaos CrossFit. Then jump ship came to Hawaii and bought a couple of places around there. And I know they bought the Archaos location. So I never got to meet any of them though, before I had left. Yeah, it was, it was cool because like Hawaii is very, you have that big sense of community and Ohana and family, but it's cool. Cause you, you know, you have everyone that's there that are the locals, but then you also have the military too, as well. And then all the, all the different like affiliates, whenever we'd have competitions, it would always be the same thing. And that's where I really started to like truly fall in love in the affiliate part of, of CrossFit.

And, uh, and that was my family. And I still talk to so many people, uh, from there to this day. Like that was, that was it. I mean that, um, I was recently going through a divorce too, as well. And that was, that was my home. That was it. So you, I think you said 2008, Did you mean 2018 or did I hear wrong? 2008 is when I got out.

But when I moved to Hawaii, I was still in the military. 2008, I got out. I got back in 2009. Right. But when I went to become a platoon sergeant, that was in 2016. Okay, 2016. Okay. And then what happened after there?

Did you stay as a platoon sergeant there until you left? Yeah. So I was a platoon sergeant there until you left? Yeah. So I was a platoon sergeant there. I took the platoon to Guam to do a mission, like during the whole North Korea scare, came back. I was then a detachment sergeant and for the detachment law enforcement place in Hawaii. And then I had orders to Fort Leavenworth, Kansas for a army university job. And when I went to Kansas, that is where, um, I really, that's where I became really the profession of the coach and, and the affiliate there called Valley CrossFit in Lawrence, Kansas, uh, gave me an opportunity to be a coach there.

While you were in the army. While I was still in the army. Yeah. And that, and that was your last, and that was your last place that you were in the army was Kansas. The last place was here in Miami. Oh, and you're still in Miami. Wow. Why didn't you leave?

You're Ohio boy. I am. Well, LeBron left Ohio. So it went to Miami. Um, I, uh, I, you know, I, I, I fell in love. I fell in love with the community. I fell in love with, uh, my lady. I fell in love with the gym and I fell in love with my Gigi athletes. What's Gigi? Oh, what's Gigi? What are Gigi athletes? Gigi's Playhouse is the nonprofit place that I coach athletes with Down syndrome.

And so that doesn't take place in Caution CrossFit? And so that doesn't take place in Caution CrossFit? Well, so it originated in Caution CrossFit because of our location. So we have over 662 members between two locations. Our one location is in Pembroke Pines, and that has 88 members. So our Miami Lakes location has over 500 members at it. And yeah. And so, and they've been, they've been an affiliate for 13 years. Dominic Morisi is the owner and he's actually going to the CrossFit games as a master's athlete this year. So he, he made it. And the office manager of Gigi's Playhouse was driving around and just saw our sign

and came in and talked to Dominic and asked if there was a coach or anybody that was passionate with working with athletes with special needs. And he's like, you know, I've got just a coach for it. I've got Chad and that's his passion. That's something that I've always been passionate about because of growing up my best friend Robbie who was a who has muscular dystrophy he has he's my hero he's my inspiration he's he's the one that that keeps me going he's he's the person that if there's anything that defines who I am today it's it's it's because of him and and growing up you know our parents he just grew up down the road from me not I mean in the same court sorry but in the same court in the cul-de-sac, um, our parents made sure that we were always

together and I would hang out. Is he the same age as you? Is he the same age as you? Yeah. He's, uh, he's got, um, he's, he's a teacher online. Um, he's got a son, he's a grandfather, he's married. Um, in fact, I'm marrying, I'm going to be the officiant of his son's wedding a son. He's a grandfather. He's married. In fact, I'm marrying. I'm going to be the officiant of his son's wedding in September. So he was I would ride the short bus with him. And but I would go hang out in the resource room with him. And in the resource room, you were back in back then there. It wasn't really separated based upon, you know, cognitive disability, physical disability. And I grew a sense of compassion and empathy for everyone. And from that day forward, I knew that

like part of my service was going to be to give back in some type of way and finding out that like movement is universal and anyone can speak it. You know, I found that through CrossFit and through movement that I can inspire and I can, I can help out any way I can. What was this guy? What was this guy's name? Robbie Flannery. Robbie. Did, would Robbie come to your wrestling matches? Oh yeah. Robbie would come to my wrestling. Robbie and I got drunk for the first time together. Robbie and I would, um, get in trouble a lot together. I remember when, when we first had

a sip of beer at his dad's place, I would jump on the back of his wheelchair and we would go around the neighborhood. I think he ran into a couple of parked cars a couple of times. I used to put pillows on him and then he would be like the hockey goalie. Because I remember in seventh grade, his mom pulled me aside and was like, do not treat him any differently. And I said, you got it. And then from there, we were, we were, we were, uh, we were a team. So his whole life he spent in a wheelchair. Yes. In muscular dystrophy.

I'm looking it up. It's a rare group of genetic disorders that causes skeletal muscles to weaken and break down over time. Yes. So, so I, I guess it it's everyone's like that, right? Like you reach your peak and then you wane. But for people with muscular dystrophy, it it it wanes starts to wane sooner. Well, there's different there's different, I guess, a spectrum of it in a sense where where we had a classmate named Dan, who I remember in seventh and eighth grade could walk. where we had a classmate named Dan, who I remember in seventh and eighth grade could walk.

And by the end of high school, he was in a wheelchair. And, you know, he has since passed, passed away. Robbie has a form where it's a very, very, very slow progression. I mean, he's 40 years old and we, you know, we call him papa wheelie because he's a grandfather and and and he's still still the same still amazing yeah what and he lived in your court it was just fortuitous and you guys were just friends same age 40 something age 40 played video games you know what i mean get on aol instant messenger flirt with girls you we, I remember we would like go around and, uh, I was actually talking to my girlfriend, we were going around and we were saying we would mow people's lawns and we would take their money. And then we never even had a lawnmower. Um,

like hustle that's called the hustle. Yeah. Um, when, when, uh, I want to go back to, but I want to talk about what you're doing. What did you call the group? You called it Gigi. Gigi's Playhouse is a national achievement center for people with Down syndrome. It started in Chicago by a lady named Nancy and her daughter, Gigi, has Down syndrome. by a lady named Nancy and her daughter Gigi has Down syndrome. And since then it's grown to national locations and it just happens to be a Miami location in Miami lakes, which is like one minute down. Yeah. There's there's Gigi right there. In fact,

what a cool thing is High Rocks has now partnered with Gigi as it being, it's like title, like charity group. So my athletes got to go to the high rocks event in Fort Lauderdale this year and announce and be there for the first time for, um, that, that there's a big partnership because high rocks, I think high rocks USA is out of Chicago. So there's a, there's a connection between the people there. You know, when, uh, I don't know if you know this,

but I worked in a home for disabled adults for five years. And when I say I worked there, I was there seven days a week. I lived in their driveway. I lived there with them. Wow. And two of the people, it was eight apartments. And then I just parked my motor home on the driveway. And when I worked there, I was the lowest man.

And when I left five years later, I had 20 people working for me. But it was a – I remember if I were to sum up the wildest thing about having a mental disability was the self-awareness of it and the fact that those people wanted boyfriends and girlfriends and they wanted people who didn't have mental disabilities and what a why i just used to just trip on that what a wild journey what a crazy thing like i could i could never process that right i was just like wow they want intimacy with um with people who don't have disabilities but it's it's not it's not an option for them right yeah and and it was i just i just just oh man that was that was a that was a that was a wild one that was one i could never really uh get my head around and then also of course you know we're all manipulating the world around us right

and when they because they had disabilities and the way people treated them their manipulation skills were on a whole different i don't know if level or kind than other than other peoples and that makes sense yeah you know you know what i'm saying? Yeah, absolutely. Because the world would give – the world treated them different, and so the way they managed their social interactions and the way they managed people was different than the way you and I might manipulate people. For sure. the more you separated them away from each other. So if we had five staff on and there were only two people in the house at the time, the others were somewhere, they would start taking on your characteristics of people who didn't have the disabilities. But when they were all together,

it would go the other way. Yeah. Those were just some fascinating things. When they were integrated with people who didn't have their disabilities, they lived up to that level of, I guess, personal responsibility and accountability. When they were with each other, it became a different manipulation game where they were used to the – like they would put their efforts in trying to get away with stuff than living up to it. That's true. You know that's, yeah, yeah. I see that a lot. Like when I show up and then when I'm done kind of, well, when I'm done coaching, that's

where the, the effect of exercise takes place. So one thing that I had experienced while, while coaching and while being a part of this community is seeing the actual drug, the actual effect, the actual endorphins kicked in and you would have, you know, an athlete or you would have someone that would be nonverbal who would be verbal, you know? Oh, Oh, Oh yeah. Yeah. Think, think about the power of movement for us when we're done with a hard workout or we're done with even a workout, you know, how much better we walk taller.

We stand, we stand better. The same thing in effect. But when I would show up, I would see the same thing. I would see definitely, uh, um, uh, a different interaction until they were put and then they were led in a certain way. You know, I would walk the, the, um, the, the, the man, the woman who had down syndrome, I would walk them about a mile to the swimming pool at UC Santa Barbara. And we would go swimming. And then on the swimming pool at uc santa barbara and we would go swimming and then on the walk home it was a totally different person than the person i walked there with a hundred it's funny it's funny i never thought of that back then and you know what's crazy the way i described that about disabled um these disabled adults i guess the same thing is

with communities right you get a bunch of jews together they act one way you get a bunch of armenians together they act one way You get a bunch of Jews together, they act one way. You get a bunch of Armenians together, they act one way. You get a bunch of black people together, they act one way because they kind of are feeding off of whatever they're, I don't know, the way they manipulate or see society. And then you get them alone and those things kind of, they become more, I want to say accountable as an individual, as opposed to like leaning on the herd. You know what I mean? In the army, you have to go to these leadership courses as you progress. Right. And so in, when you first come in, you're, we call it like a soup sandwich or a hockey bat. It means you're all jacked up, right? When you come in the army, you don't know how to tie your shoes. I had soldiers that didn't know how to tie boots. You know, I had people that didn't know how to shave as you progressed in the army and you went to these leadership courses and we're talking I had soldiers that didn't know how to tie boots. You know, I had people that didn't know how to shave. As you progressed in the Army and you went to these leadership courses, and we're talking master leadership course. You're becoming a master sergeant.

Sergeant Majors Academy is this year-long academy where you could leave there with a degree. People were showing up with their shorts on backwards. Wow. And it's because I think it's just that when you're around everyone, I don't know if the guard gets let down. I don't know what it is, but you're, you are absolutely right. Hey, um, I saw a video where you talked about the difference between being a manager and a leader. Um, is that fresh in your head that you could draw? You could share that with us, the distinction between those two positions? Sure. Well, one thing I always talk about is I

think everybody's a leader. You know, I ask people, you know, raise your hand if you're a brother, raise your hand if you're a father, raise your hand if you volunteer at your church, raise your hand if you do this. And for the most part, everyone, if I'm talking to someone or if I'm casually talking to someone, I can kind of connect them that they are a leader in some type of way. They're a leader in their household. They're a leader in some fashion. And then I talk about how if everyone's a leader, why are people managed? And so being a manager necessarily isn't a bad thing. When I talk about, tell me the characteristics of a manager and tell me the characteristics of a

leader, what ends up happening is the manager characteristics that people describe somewhat come off in a negative tone. When all reality, a manager is just someone that kind of just necessarily doesn't inspire, right? They don't that kind of just necessarily doesn't inspire, right? They don't understand kind of like the human aspect. They do the job. You know, if you're a manager, you know, let's say at Walmart, if you're a manager at Sears, if you're a manager anywhere, you stick to the protocol, you stick to the instructions, you stick to what you know, just to get the job done. But the difference between a manager and leader is simply the people. And it's the connection and it's the ability to have the emotional intelligence to have that personal communication, that personal touch between people. And I think that's something that can be taught.

And that's why I think leadership can absolutely be taught. It's not necessarily inherently born. There are qualities, you know, and there are people just like, you know, Dave Castro walking through the airport, everyone's going to pay attention to. But if he never was really taught how to connect to people and how to have the emotional intelligence about himself, it would just, it would be wasted. a manager and a leader, a manager manages the company where a leader leads people. And if you lead people, this part's easy. So like when you were saying manager, I was thinking like your calendar is your manager. Yeah. Yeah. It tells you where to be. It reminds you of stuff. It's the rules for you on just like going through the, um, going through the motions. Hey, you have stuff it's the rules for you on just like going through the um going through the motions hey you have to be on this call at this time you have to do this you have to put the price tags on this it's like that hey um when you uh it when you say connect with people it's interesting

because i don't think of dave as the kind of person who connects with people i think maybe people connect with him well he walks by and he he talks to every single person that he, that he encounters. That's true. That's true. He, he is, he is good with his time. Um, what do you, what do you, do you remember the first time that you saw leadership come out of you? Or do you remember like cultivating leadership skills and what they look like? So I was, I was fortunate enough to, yeah, I was fortunate enough to, I think being a leader of my sisters, I think me being an older brother of my two younger sisters was, was the first time I really started to, to display that type of a position where I felt I inherently had to protect them

or I had to act a certain way. You know, your mom, my mom and dad would put, you know, Hey, you know, you're the older brother. You have to fake that they're Santa Claus, you know, for another year. Right. So just even in that, I remember that responsibility is kind of cool. It's like, I have this thing where I can kind of you know be be someone to them in the beginning of the podcast you said something and now it's like the third time i've heard it in a month that and um that leaders give people opportunity and and that for me that was the first time i saw oh that just comes naturally to me well you create buy-in. When you give people opportunity. Yeah, like I want to help people.

Yeah, you have, there's a sense of ownership of whatever you're doing. And not help people in the sense of like giving a homeless person money. But because I think a lot of people think that they're helping people and they're not. And then on top of that, they get upset when people don't accept their help or when their help hurts them. You know what I mean? I've seen a lot of people in life try to help people, and actually all they're doing is hurting them.

Giving people opportunity is different. Opportunity is different. I think you have to be confident in that person in a way, and you have to describe it to them that you're not like, you have to almost, like we've talked about before, you have to almost empower them. You have to make them think that they kind of came about this on their own. to, you have to make them think that like, they kind of came about this on their own. You're just there to help them and guide them. Because if you're just continuing to give money to the homeless person, if you're continuing to always give the trainer bar to, you know, a member, and you're not necessarily, you know, breaking past an area that needs to be broken to for them to have the opportunity to succeed or fail, it's just going to be wasted every time, you know, every time you just like assist. And I would always tell my subordinate leaders like

a day off or not doing PT or allowing people to sleep in is not necessarily like the right thing. You know, there's a time and a place for that. And likership is not leadership. And sometimes you have to be the one that empowers someone to kind of do something hard because once they have the opportunity or they, like you said, you know, at headquarters, they were given a project and they failed a couple of times, but then succeeded that, that process allows them to overcome adversity. You ever have to cut anyone off from your leadership? Like you're putting energy into someone,

you believe in them and you're giving them opportunity and they're just not taking it. And so you just decide, and it has nothing, you could still like them, but you're just like, okay, this, this isn't working and you cut them off from your leadership. Like they're fired. I would like, and you almost feel like you failed. You almost feel like, but, but you have to do it. Yeah.

I mean, I've, I mean, I've encountered, you know, probably over four to 5,000 people within my, within my scope. You mean in 21 years, four or 5,000 people, and I have not like, not everyone's walking around like as, as other like chads or anything like that. And I wouldn't want that. I want them to be their selves, but I, there, there are people that you're like, but, but then you can't, you can't, you can't spread yourself out. And that's something that I do terribly at. If I can improve my something about myself is saying sometimes no,

you know what I mean? Cause I say yes a lot. Yeah. Because I feel that's, that's my, my purpose is to serve. You know what I mean? And I, but I don't think that. That's one of the integrity pieces that Dave taught me to just say no, as opposed to because I want to be nice, right? So I would say yes. So like, yeah, saying no, saying no. I probably didn't learn that till I was like 46.

Well, okay. I got that to look forward to. Just lots of no's. No, no, no. Yeah. It's like when you own a pickup truck and everyone asks you to borrow it for a move and you say yes but really in your heart you're like fuck no i don't want you driving my truck put scratches on get the fuck out of here but you say i was always taught you always say yes to helping people move because someday you are going to move and you sure my dad taught me that

well he's he's a good dude i did a thing when when I was 19, I got a brand new 1990 Toyota pickup truck. And this was when cars used to break down. And I made a rule that for the first year that I had this truck, because I was so thankful for it, that I would stop and ask to help any person who was broken down on the side of the road for a year. Fuck, that got me into some weird situations. But it was good. But you know what i mean it's two in the morning and i'm driving home drunk from a party and i see someone broken down the side of

the road i'm like fuck really you're gonna do this that that could lead to that could lead to some other stuff yeah um you when you when you you get out um when you get out are you already doing ggs yeah i did ggs in the army here in in miami and and tell me about your first like uh kind of experience with that um so tell me about that interaction someone came up to you like how did that i know you touched on a little bit yeah like. Like me, I started out at caution CrossFit, um, as a member and I remember I tried it out for the first time and, and I'm telling you, I was in a rude awakening. My grandma lived in Los Olos, um, in Fort Lauderdale for 30 years of her life. And so when I got orders to come to Doral to South com Southcom, I was like, oh, I know South Florida.

This is awesome. I know what Miami is like. And I go to Publix for the first time. And I'm like, hey, do you guys have like a. What's that, a grocery store? Yeah, it's a grocery. It's like the grocery store of Florida. Like no matter what, if there's a hurricane, the Publix flag will still remain flying.

Okay. I went to the grocery store and I was like, do you guys have a like rewards program, like a Kroger plus card? And, and the lady goes, no say, no say. And I'm like, what, like, what do you mean no say? And I like had to ask someone else. And then I start like, and then I go to the CrossFit gym and like, I'm, oh, man, I am a fish out of water. But the community there, I'm telling you, Savon. Because everyone spoke Latin there? Yeah.

Okay. It's a very, very big Cuban, Colombian, Venezuelan population. And it's almost like you have to speak Spanish. And like, it's almost like you have to speak Spanish. But you would not meet a more respectful and caring and compassionate and patriotic group of people than in South Florida. Like, simply put, our our Murphs, our 9-11 workouts, 4th of July, like it is it is so so amazing and when you would when I would have to like be in uniform down here I would be just like people would like open the door for you get kind of get out of your way no matter what thank you and that's like you know this is like in 2021-22 where you know the things have shifted a little bit um and I just felt so, so amazed in this area. And when I started going there,

I would go to the 5am and we had a really amazing 5am crew and still have an amazing 5am crew. And then I, you know, was like, Hey, look, I coached at this last place. I have some opportunity because I didn't think my work wasn't that bad. So I could coach. And I talked to, you know, Dominic and he gave me the opportunity and we were, you know, really good friends. We hit it off right away. Um, and I had told him my passion and my love for helping people. Um, but my first experience with GGs, I was so nervous and like, you have to read this like big pamphlet and all the stuff they had originally given me to kind of instruct Gigi Fit, because it was this own program already written, was very, very basic. But they did it in the Caution CrossFit gym?

No, no. Okay, okay. So this is new. Like Gigi's Playhouse in Miami opened in 2021. So I started, I believe, at the end of November of 2021. So I was the first like GG fit instructor come to find out a lot of the stuff like wasn't tough, wasn't hard, wasn't challenging. So I was like, this is, this isn't doing anything. And I had, I had learned and I had turned and was influenced by Sam Dancer and seen like what he had done with

his athlete, James and seen, and I, and I kind of had the opportunity to meet Sam at the games and thank him. And he gave me a big old hug and everything, but he really is the one that like propelled me to try CrossFit. And now like they love, they do random burpees for no reason. Like if I just bring PVC pipes one day, they're like mad. Cause I didn't bring the torque sled or kettlebells or, you know, weights or anything like that. And so incorporating CrossFit into their, um, training regimen has now allowed them to do hard things. And the confidence in them has just grown to 200%. They, nothing, nothing that I put in front of them. They don't at least try. Hey, what was, um, were the directors of the GGs program? How did they, were they like,

Hey, what are you doing? This isn't the protocol here. Yeah. And how did you push back on that? They're like, Hey, what you're not doing, you're not doing GG fit. You're doing CrossFit here. Um, well we kind of had to adjust kind of the name of, of what it is. It's a fun, fun fitness and friends with Chad. Um, but, uh, but I think now that they've partnered with high rocks that that complete change has happened. Like it is a whole shift has changed. Um, and, and that kind of like thought process. Explain that to me. Tell me more about that. What do you mean by that? Well, I would say that very early on, like when I would, I, and when I would bring them to caution CrossFit, you know what I mean? I would kind of have a little bit of pushback of like,

you know, it's unsafe. There's weights around and everything like that when like bringing them to caution CrossFit and, and see the cool thing is everyone at caution CrossFit. So already that's, that's my point already. Someone was trying to give them an out. Yeah. Already, already, already trying to take it out and trying to give them a way out to do something hard, to do something hard and a, let's just continue to do glute bridges. And we can, we can play with bouncy balls. You what i mean yeah um and and everyone at caution crossfit knows gg's playhouse like and all the like all the athletes that you see there they follow some of the members and everything and when they go there everyone loves them everyone's embraced a lot of our fundraising, you know, that we do with caution

cares goes towards Gigi's Playhouse. And, and when they show up, and they get to have a smoothie at the smoothie bar, and they get to, you know, deadlift on the platforms, you just see an instant change. And because I think the growth and the exposure, I've just continuing to stay on the throttle, not letting up, not letting up, not and I'm also not letting someone who can't say yes to tell me no affect my decision. Wow. You know, so. And this is the Gigi's facility. there so i i load up my little jetta with what i can um and then take it over there and i kind of have a theme so the theme normally for the week is kind of i'll pick like a workout that we have

programmed at caution and then kind of implement it and yet this is all fascinating how many ggs are there around the world around america i don't know. Is it like five or is it like a hundred? It's like 65 or 70. Yeah. And are there any of these, are they franchises? For nonprofit. Yeah. But you don't own that one. You just train that you just, you're a coach there. No. Yeah. I'm just, I'm a teacher they call. Yeah. And is that the, oh, oh okay and so is there an

education component to it too there is yeah so clary clary is the owner of gg's playhouse miami her daughter alejandra has um has down syndrome and so there it's starting from uh prenatal all the way to adulthood. They take care of them, and they have different type of reading classes, educational classes, cooking classes, karate, art, all the way until adulthood and beyond. And so this is – and how long do kids stay there or adults stay there? How old are the – Well, the Marvaline, the girl on the left, she's in her 30s. And then Juan, he's 15. And then Felipe, he's 18 right there.

So it varies. And what's the youngest? Sometimes I'll have like Alejandra who's like I think seven. She'll come to the class. uh sometimes i'll have like alejandra who's like i think seven she'll come to the class and um is this something like uh basically the state will allocate money to it like if like let's say if you have a social worker and you're like hey i want to say no how do these it's a hundred percent it's a hundred percent from donations from fundraisers that we do. So those kids, those people's families and parents,

they don't pay GGs? They don't pay anything. They just come in and they say, hey, I heard about this. Can I sign up? And you're like, okay, we have an opening and we have funding for three people. Yep, you can come in.

Well, we never say no to anybody. Oh, wow. We never say no to anybody. And it doesn't even necessarily matter that someone like like let's say they are an athlete uh with autism we'll take anybody especially just to to have that opportunity for someone to to train or or to take a karate class or a cooking class you know we, we're, we're very, very open to, to anybody. And so through, through fundraisers, through our race, like our 5k that we do through the Miami lakes town,

like special needs advisory board, there's fundraisers for it. We have like a gala, there's a national fundraiser through, through it as well. So. Hey, have you seen trans trans how long have you been there since uh november 2021 have you seen um some transformations i have i think i think the hardest thing though is still somewhat the nutrition piece yeah sure i think what i think i think getting that down i think also too you're fighting against, you know, even though down syndrome, you know, is, is cognitive, there are physical limitations and, and there is a muscle atrophy that occurs. So it's really difficult to, to really dial in if the nutrition's out there. And sometimes it just

doesn't fit with the parents and you can only do so much. I think what the really cool thing about it is, is, is their ability to never say no to a challenge. Like I'll put, I'll put a box out to do a box jump and they'll do it. Next thing you know, I'll put a plate on there and they'll be apprehensive, but they'll do it. And I think the confidence before, when I first showed up, they weren't willing to do anything. And then you will go out and like, now we go outside if it rains a little bit, they love it. They love that it's raining a little bit, that it's tough. tough they don't it doesn't even bother them whereas before they'd be running for the hills you know um so that and that's fascinating they've you've taught them to

embrace the hard things yeah okay they're dropping some of their stories absolutely and telling new stories hey when you get a new kid um you know, Matt Schindeldecker runs that program. Do you know who that is at CrossFit Crave in Ohio? No. Oh, for the juvenile. I think it's like. Juvenile kids. The kids who are like juvenile criminals.

Yeah, my mom's from that area. I think it's like Portsmouth area. No, Portsmouth has a whole different program there. Dale King has a program there that's just like just for addicts, right? Oh, okay. My mom was born in Waverly, Ohio. So I've been to that chill coffee Portsmouth area, but know, let's say stealing or something, he goes to juvenile court instead of doing, you know, a year in juvenile detention or something. Um, they'll give them an option to do like a, you know, a 12 week program at, uh, at a CrossFit gym. And, and when he come, when they come there and a lot of these kids have, you know, they come there just completely clamped up, he'll tell you. And the probation officer has to

come there and work out with them too. So imagine how they bond right oh yeah i think that's where actually the magic is and anyway this this program is expanding all over the state of ohio the governor's completely in i think they actually have a couple gyms now in actual detention centers but i am when you get someone new or is it really hard to open them up like do they come in and it's just like they're like because there is and i don't blame them right like oh yeah yeah yeah like there's no there's no trust there's no like i've never worked hard in my life i mean and sometimes there's um sometimes there's apprehension among the athletes you know even, even to even accept the person. Yeah. Like if, if for whatever reason, you know, they, they, they still don't get along then from then on,

you know, they're the last in line to do something as a side to the first, you know what I mean? They're, they're scared to touch it, but I mean, I don't really have any nonsense. Like, you know, you're, you're going to do it and you're going to at least try. And of course there's empathy and compassion behind it, but at the same time, I'm going to empower you. I'm going to encourage you. I'm going to want you to do it, whether you succeed or not. And once it's cool, because once you see like an athlete struggling, all the other athletes like want to come over and help, especially the ones that have already completed that

task. So it just really takes a couple like minutes for someone to almost like fail for then the magic to kick in for them to like realize, like, I'm, I'm, I'm stuck having to do this. I'm not going to get out of it, you know, cause I, I, I don't play around. Isn't it crazy that you see the potency of this? I was doing the math during COVID and you know, for a fraction of the cost of the money that was spent on whatever, probably on masks, they could have bought an assault bike for every single person in the United States. Like it was like, you know, like I figured I was like a billion dollars or something, you know what I mean? And just the impact, the difference in impact. or something you know what i mean and just the impact the difference in impact and here you have this this group this lady knows it's fucking probably crazy to try to take grant money away

from the big fucking bureaucracy that's supposedly supposed to help uh disabled uh adults and children and so she's just created her own fucking thing like fuck you she's she's amazing where does she live chicago yeah and you've met her? No, I haven't met her. I'd love to. Yeah. You just see her in videos and whatnot? Just see her in videos. And then it's cool because you get to see like, you get to see Gigi grow up.

Like she's 21. She got to use her ID card to, you know, to purchase alcohol for the first time. She went on, she went on a date. So it's like, it's an example. And she's, you know, Gigi and her mom are the example. What's the lady's name, the founder? Nancy. Do you remember her last name?

I don't. Hey, do you have plans to do something? like outside of like you get out of the military you've been in 21 years and now it's been two or three years and you're settled and you got some roots and like you like you know uh you you have a new uh like a rebirth for chad chad sorrentino are you getting into anything else like for you like any other um uh entrepreneurial stuff or things that i do? I have some entrepreneurial things. I, you know, I'm a strategic, my master's degree is in strategic leadership. I do some consulting. I created a 12 month servant leadership curriculum that I'm participating in with Johnson and Johnson. So we had our first month this month. And so it's

something super simple, super easy. Like I created it. It's like each month they're going to learn a component of servant leadership. It only takes 15 minutes a week, an hour a month. And then like every quarter we either have like a face-to-face or we'll have a zoom thing too, as well. Um, and then I've also done some consulting for some solar companies, um, and, and to grow from there this fall, I'll be taking on, um, this fall, I'll be taking on being a cross country coach for a local high school. Oh, wow. And then December 22nd, I will be becoming the ultimate leader as I will be a father for the first time. Oh, shit. Congratulations. Thank you.

Hey, what about the adaptive games that's happening in, I think it's happening in San Antonio. I want to say in September 19th to the 22nd. The thing Kevin Ogar runs and Lisa Gall and gang. Do you have any affiliation with them or relationship with them? No, I just, I see them from afar and it keeps me inspired. It keeps me, keeps me motivating. It's something that, that, you know, I can always lean to. I would love to also be able to maybe work, you know, with High Rocks as well, because I've got a pretty good relationship with the leadership there. As far as having like a cognitive heat that goes out or different type of challenges or creating like programs, because like we we do High Rocks training. We do CrossFit within our organization and and High Rocks, the local leadership there, like within the United States, Douglas, has been nothing but helpful and supportive and kind to me too as well.

Of High Rocks? Mm-hmm. Yeah. So you're having a baby. When did you say that is? That's in December? Yeah. Yeah, that's in december yeah yeah that's awesome yeah this uh this 20 years you put in it um do you miss it at all do you have any regrets getting out no no you're good no i i

i still have a lot of people that reach out to me, um, who are in, who are in, yeah. And still, you know, warrant advice and, or just have me listen and just have, cause like one of the big things, and you know, this, one of the big things about camaraderie is just bitching, just complaining, you know what I mean? Having a place to vent and say whatever. Um, and so I just listened for a little bit and then, you know, I'm like, Hey, look, you know, um, I'm not in, So I just listened for a little bit and then, you know, I'm like, Hey, look, you know, um, I'm not in, I don't know how it really is too much, you know, um, but just know, and I give them my piece of advice, whatever it is. I think, um, I miss maybe like the security, like finance wise, it's, it paid really good

towards the end. That would be what, I mean, if I'm being honest, the only thing I would miss, um, but I think, you know, there's phases, there's chapters, there's, there's no pun intended, there's eras to, to your life. And I think me being like available 100% to my soldiers for 21 years was, was the perfect. And then now that I'm no longer in, I now have the ability to be a hundred percent, um, to the, my future child too, as well, because I always was, I always watched and was amazed at people in the military who had to say goodbye to their, their, their kids and their spouses and everything like that. And that was something I'd never really had to experience. So I was able to give a hundred percent to the army and a hundred percent to leadership. So.

It's interesting that you're doing the thing with johnson and johnson because when i think of um corporate america you you know just with my own kids in my in my own life the the boundaries that i draw around me are like crazy crazy important or the boundaries i draw around them and then inside and then I make them like Even though they're imaginary you make them real and then inside of there is where you operate and so you you get to operate in this Really freely because you know your boundaries so well So you're just like like you said those guys who jumped out of the airplane They knew the mission so well, and they knew their boundaries of what needed to be done that inside of there,

when shit went wrong, it didn't matter because they still knew their mission. They were free to get it done by any means necessary. And, and I'm, and I'm watching what's happening in corporate America. And, um, one of the parts about leadership is really, I think it gets confused. I'd be curious. Your take on this is it's not telling people uh what to do it's drawing the boundaries for them is is almost more important so that then they can get done what they're supposed to do and in corporate america because of this cultural i would call it a cultural revolution we're going through the boundaries have become so fucked up well they're not clear the boundaries are clear right so or they or they don't make sense they're asking you to believe stuff that doesn't that

doesn't make sense that you can't that you can't even like i can tell my kid don't touch my my cell phone and it's just very clear it just makes sense and now and now there's things that just don't make sense to you you know you just using the basic thing is uh maybe forcing people to take drugs if they're going to come into the workplace or um changing the definition of words so that you can't get your head wrapped around it the way maybe you were raised and it's just caused this fucking yeah i guess what you said not clear it's not it's not clear and then so I think that's why like the army's definition of leadership is providing purpose, direction, and motivation to accomplish the mission.

And I think that if I have the opportunity to provide a direction, right, then I, then once the direction is given then, and we're all heading down the same path, then, then I can add the inspiration piece. Right. So, but if the direction's never there and we just kind of sit back and we're like, whatever, you know what I mean? This isn't my domain. Then you can't, you don't necessarily have the opportunity to complain. And so like having different opportunities.

And like I said, I'm very, I would say I don't shy away from a lot of things. Like my Dominic, the owner and my close friend was telling me, he's like, you know, you, you never say no, whether you know how to, how to do it or not. Like I had to hang a fan up in the gym and I hung it up terribly, but like, it was still, you, you never say no to it. You know what I mean? And, and so I just have that inherent thing in me that I just, I'm just always going to try to do it. You know what I mean? I'm always going to, going to give it my, my passion.

I'm going to give it my all. I'm going to try to do it as right as I can, because if not, it's going to eat me up. And if, and if I can, if I can make, if I can make my boundaries of, of what I believe is right, like, and bring it with and bring people into those boundaries i i think we can all improve on on who we are and and the compassion piece do you feel free to be who you are in all your settings now i do yeah now i absolutely do the army constricts you a little bit yeah you can't you you you you somewhat have like your your liberties taken away, and for good reason. You represent the flag. You represent the president.

You represent the nation. And you are a profession. You're a profession of the arms. And something that's interesting that you said earlier is if I want to get my car fixed and I needed my brakes done i've got an endless amount of locations i can go get my brakes done at but there's only one army and so america's people only have one army to turn to so that's why being a professional within the army that they can rely on is so important but now i have the ability to kind of just kind of to navigate and move you know within the limits of my responsibilities you know at the gym or at

home, um, that I can, I can be who I want to be. Man, dude, uh, this is, I would love to stay in touch. I'm curious what you're going to be doing in a year. Yeah, you get shit done. That's my takeaway. Good job, dude. Hey, I want to say, I want to say that like you have been an amazing supporter. Like you over the years, even though we never really connected, we just kind of liked each other's stuff and we're caring and compassionate. You know, we connected because of you. I met, you know, the guys from paper street coffee who were super kind and super generous. Um, just when they came down for, uh,apalooza, just the whole space that you operate

and everything is just, it's just so welcoming and so amazing. And, and I appreciate the support over the years. It really means a lot. You're, you're a very, very genuine person. Thanks. Greg told me this one time, our only value as human beings is what we, how we can help other human beings. And, and I, oh, yeah, I like that. That's going to be one of my values. That's where our value is. You've got to help other people. Absolutely.

Yeah. And you've got to be careful how you do it. You've got to be smart. Don't think you have all the answers because you don't want to accidentally hurt someone. And so that's where it comes in to make sense what you said. accidentally hurt someone. Uh, and so that's where it comes into make sense. What you said, helping really is about giving other people opportunities, not, you know, uh, bringing them a big jar of, uh, you're not helping anyone by bringing them a two liter of Coke, but you are helping them by giving them an opportunity to, uh, get a job and buy their

own drink. Anyway. Hey brother. Thank you so much, Chad. You the man. You the man. the man take care man all right yeah let's stay in touch bye bye chad sorrentino wow caution crossfit cool all right All right All right, Jesus crime any all this parenting shit pouring in All right, oh my god, I don't do meetings and I have two meetings today. I don't know how to do meetings. I want to do meetings. You should just make Sousa do them. Yeah, that dude's cool as shit.

I'm curious what his wife is like. When he said he moved to Miami, I wonder if he married a Latin chick. Or if he's getting with a Latin chick. Or how his Spanish is. Oh, yeah, 11 a.m. tomorrow morning. Get with the programming. I think Sousa said – I told Sousa I think he's going to switch his show because I think his show was at 11 a.m. Said he has a stomach problem.

No, I don't have a stomach problem. I'm good. I don't really a stomach problem. I'm good. I don't really get stomach problems. Hispanic. What'd I say? Latin? Whatever. Whatever. Yeah, my strength is delegating meetings. Okay.

We'd love to hear you interview Seth from Jump Ship. Mac, it's Matt Schindledecker. Oh, yeah. All right. I want to hang out with you guys so bad. Maybe I'll hang out later. Thursday's the presidential debate. I kind of want to do a show after that, too.

Friday, we're having the CrossFit Games Update Show. Of course, Gil Taylor on Saturday. I think we have Devin Lorette tomorrow morning. If you don't know who Devin Lorette is you should definitely go check out his instagram um no no i don't mind high rocks listen guys god people are saying some crazy shit lately someone said in the comments uh savon that's cool that you believe in god now um and i and i even though i know you don't like me first of all i don't believe in god and second of all i i don't dislike you whoever said that and then someone else said something else crazy to me

The other day they said that someone else sent me a DM be like I know you don't believe in God But it's too bad. You can't be honest about God because you have to appeal to your base and it's just like Where the fuck is this shit coming from? People just trolling me Anyway me anyway if you want to say weird shit go over to pet it uh pet it go over to reddit and find a a thread where they call me a pedophile that's the spot for you okay uh sebon he doesn't like you he loves you thank you a all right on that note i'll see you guys later.