The Sevan Podcast - CrossFit Games Events 1 & 7 DETAILS / Shut Up and Scribble analysis

Episode Date: July 15, 2024

J.R. Howell and Taylor Self analyze the first released events of the 2024 CrossFit Games. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

wow what's up everybody taylor here with uh train sentinel jr howell cross city crash crash crucible this is shut up and scribble live from the aldi aldi parking lot and live from me finishing an emom four minutes ago um what's the mom come on everyone wants to know not uh your camera just turned off bro oh there we go um probably something you'd be like that's not that bad but it was pretty hard for me right now uh it was 15 thrusters minute one 95 10 burpee pull-ups minute two 20 ghts minute three um so for how long 15 minutes. Just five rounds. What do you think? One to ten. Seven. With the heat,

we'll just call it a ten. I mean, you're not any hotter than where I'm living. That's what I'm saying, dude. But with your heat too, stop it. You have exhaust fans and AC. We don't have exhaust fans, bro. Our gym is like... We don't use the exhaust fans. It's been turned off since we put in the ceiling fans. Plus we've got, plus we've got a humidity. You've got humidity. We've got humidity.

We have a, we have the smell of rotting asparagus and hot sardines when Andy cooks them in olive oil in the front kitchen. Oh, that was a hard, uh, I'm wearing my CrossFit chippewa shirt uh they actually do check it out sentinel 60 if they're playing did you see that logo pretty well dude i saw those lower rom i saw those uh lower traps and rhomboids jeez don't worry i'm gonna take this bad boy off i had to wear it i had to wear it just to show some love i just got in the mail but i got to uh I had to wear it.

I had to wear it just to show some love. I just got it in the mail, but I got to – Wah, zombie. I'm not a fucking FedEx, so no. You need to call Andy, and if you can get that 65-year-old guy to mail you that shit, I'll tell him to send it to you for free. Is Angelo active in the comments? Can you give us a rating out of 10? How hard that imam was, please? Angelo DiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiGiG say the word gigolo. What is that? Is that a bad word? What is gigolo? That just means a guy who sells sex for money, right?

Derogatory to who? A gigolo is like the F word? Which F word? Travis B. It's racist, I think. All right. Zach Kadatz. Okay, barbell spin, barbell spin. You got to give us a rating. Gigolo, 1 to 10. For you, dude? For you, 3.7. I don't even – I swear to God, if that is derogatory, I had no idea, brother.

But, wow. Is it like saying cunt? It's like saying cunt saying and it's not the wrong word at all okay anyways just finish that emom anyone in the comments oh wow is this for the emom or for how bad of a word that is i guess is because if that's for the emom i am embarrassed so can you give us some clues on kill taylor workout i really don't even know it but I'm assuming there aren't any thrusters, burpee pull-ups or GSEs. That would be correct. And no, I can't give you any other clues than that.

People keep texting me. People keep texting me. They're like, Hey, you always, you always ask me for feedback. You always ask me for reassurance and you haven't this week. So,

cause I knew what the workout was as soon as I finished Saturday. Um, Jeremy texts me. He goes, hey, I'm on vacation, but do you think you could let me know what equipment I might need to call in tomorrow? Jeremy, the answer is no. There are no special favors here to anyone.

All right. So CrossFit Games Event 1, we know all the details, so we're going to reveal those to you guys today. We do? Interesting. CrossFit Event 7, we know all the details, so we're going to reveal those to you guys today. We do? Interesting. CrossFit event seven, we also know the details. We're going to release those. And here we go.

CrossFit Games event seven is Chad. And CrossFit Games event one is running and swimming four miles per time. So I speculate. Just kidding. We don't have the details. But we're going to speculate a little bit. Jason Hopper is coming up to Charlotte tomorrow to get bent over and spread wide and cross the games event one by someone who wouldn't even qualify.

So it's going to be amazing for his confidence. What do you think, JR, in that first workout? How should we test it? I think, first of all, the four miles is an ish. I think it's absolutely an ish. It might be heavy of four miles. It might be light of four miles. But I think if I were telling someone to test it as close to what I think it's going to be as possible based on the maps and docs I've seen, I would say like you go. like you go basically it's a 5k so you go 3.1 and then you go like 0.9 or 0.8 mile swim and that's how you do it so like a 1400 interesting but i mean i mean 800 meter swim is probably sufficient for for punishing the poor swimmers as much as punishing the poor runners in a three plus mile run you know

800 meter open water would probably take most of the athletes 13 minutes i'll say maybe maybe even a little longer if it's after the sprint or it's after the run um i would think well i think it's more important if they're trying to balance the two movements is not necessarily time so like people don't need to look at it and say, well, they're spending double the amount of time and in on land as they are in the water. The, the, the thing that you want to see is will the distance they swim be able to separate as much as the distance that they're going to run. And I think in this case, it's, uh,

it's definitely 800 meters seems like it's going to run. And I think in this case, it's, uh, it's definitely 800 meters. Seems like it's going to be sufficient, but I, for some reason, I think it'll be closer to a one K. Did you guys just hear me yell at Bryson? He asked me a question. I, whatever. Anyways, God, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta rub the Andy off me a little bit. Um, all right. So love you, bro. I got to rub the Andy off me a little bit. All right. So love you, bro. Sorry.

All right. Yeah, I would think, I think this would be cool. Last year they ran a 5k. I think it would be really cool if they ran a legit 5k and went into a more subjective distance of swim. So a very, very true 5,000 meters right into a swim to finish. If it were true four miles, obviously that would mean 1,400 meters of swimming, which would be a lot. I could also see a lot of people are saying, oh, 800 to 1K is enough to test it. That's enough. But with what's been released,

I'm very confused why that would be the sentiment because we're literally doing Chad. There's enough. And then the other event released is Chad. Clearly, I mean, you would think 500 step ups would be enough. I don't think enough has anything to do with it. I think athletes not swimming last year may be getting complacent and thinking, oh, we're moving venues. It's going to be mostly indoor. We might do a little bit at a stadium.

I don't think we're going to swim. I think Dave is saying, hey, you guys have forgotten about swimming. It's going to be real, and it's going to get real on event one. We're also forgetting 2021, the athletes used fins to swim. So I don't think that should be ruled out either for a longer distance. But I would not be surprised at all if Dave, because he did make a comment, maybe on one of his weekend reviews or one of his interviews with athletes where he said it wasn't a true 5k. There were some issues with the distance and he said it in a way

that made me think he thought that that was a big miss and he intends to correct it. And this would be a good opportunity to do that. Yeah, I agree. And if you look at the two workouts that are out, at least the details that we know, I mean, these are about as Dave as it gets to me. It's let's do something that no one would see coming because they don't think it's an appropriate games workout. And then we have Chad and 2017 first year in Madison, they did run, swim, run. And Dave was, has been notorious. Um, sorry if I'm using that word incorrectly, Savon for, uh, running with swimming, running, biking, swimming, running, or swimming, paddling, swimming. Um, it's just, it's very, it's very redundant in the way that he's presented it most years at the,

at the ranch was the only time he programmed swimming where it wasn't with other monostructural elements other than the one year they did it on the beach when they did kettlebell thrusters and burpees yeah i sent you one guess that was i think an 1800 meter run 500 meter swim 1800 meter run 500 meter run that totals up to four miles um i mean they're just the possibilities for all intents and purposes are endless. I don't – I like the idea of it being a 5K right into a 1,400-meter swim. So I think that's how maybe me and Jason will test it tomorrow. We'll see. Yeah, I think that's smart.

And someone made a good point. I think it was Chase when I was talking to him. Has a workout ever at the CrossFit Games ended in the water? I don't think there has been one so i mean will you get will you get any races i don't know like with a longer swim will you get any actual races to finish probably not but you you still might see some guys try to sprint the last 100 meters or so to catch you're not you're not gonna get a race on chad bro i mean yeah i just you know i also don't think hey out of 15 out of 13 to 15 tests they don't two of them don't necessarily need to be racist i also say um what was the year that tia finished with that iconic

like uh wet getting out of the water that was finishing in the water, but was that a kayak or a paddleboard? No, that was a swim. Was that the swim or was it the, was it one of the paddle workouts? It was a swim. Um, but I, but I can't remember. Someone in the comments probably knows that, that one. Yeah. That one may have ended in the water, but you just don't see many of the swimming workouts end on a swim. And while this isn't a short swim, so it's not really made for a race or for a sprint to the finish. It would still I mean, I kind of wish there are details that aren't released.

Like, yeah, it's actually going to be a run, swim, run again, or it's going to be a like there's going to be some kind of pyramid scheme like we were talking about in the beginning. like there's going to be some kind of pyramid scheme like we were talking about in the beginning. But yeah, chances are it's just going to be run. And then whoever can not be blown up in the water, run hard and then finish on the swim. That's it. Austin Hartman. I think the skier swim workout has been the best swim event yet. I disagree.

I disagree. My favorite is the run swim run because that's one of the heart. It's one of the grossest stimuluses I've felt training. I'm going to pop one more comment. Jamie Lee, is it true that JR writes Sentinel Training? Jamie, no, but it is true that your mom jelks my cock with her mouth. So just so that you guys are well-informed, what's next? Oh, it was swim kayak. So she finished on a kayak, and then she like dismounted the kayak in the water and came in.

Yeah. You want to switch over to Chad and talk about that? Yeah. Chad, event seven, the last event before the cuts. So far, what we know is that Chad is 1000 box step ups for time to a 20 inch box at the games. Guys will have a 45 pound load. Ladies will have a 35 pound load. I'm not sure if that's gonna be a rough a vest a barbell whatever it does say that or dave did say that there will be some twists to chad to help take care of some of the concerns that may come with doing an event like that i think that's just about verbatim what he said thoughts ons on the twist? I know this has been beaten to death,

but now that we know it's right before the cut line, does that add anything new to consider for you? I think it adds some more interesting talking points. For instance, if you were going to think about a race that's easy to watch that would eliminate some people's games that the the last workout you would think would be Chad I think Dave knows that I think Dave also knows that much has been said about the way that they use elimination style to uh in some athletes games experience like in 2019 right they ended a lot on the sprint like the actual foot sprint um in other elimination style ended a lot on the sprint like the actual foot sprint um and other elimination style workouts a lot of people have said that they're hard to watch

because there's so much time in between heats and they recede and they re they reset and you have more athletes doing more work therefore getting punished with fitness by having to do more so this idea of a reverse cut system where they have everyone going three, two, one, go the first 10 people to 500 are done and then 30 are left. And then the next 10 people to 700 are done and then there's 20 left and then the next ones to 900 are done. And then the only people you have left on the floor to do the full thousand are the people who are in 31st through 40th. Now, you're still going to run into a situation where let's say that events one through five people crush. And for some reason, they just get destroyed by Chad. So you still may have some people moving on and not being cut from the competition that end up doing twice as many reps as those people who were able to push the first half of the workout. But from a creativity standpoint, something like that would be really cool. And you would get an

intensity that most people would not expect. Hmm. That would be a cool twist. I wonder how standards would come into play with athletes pushing like that. If you had to bet one way or the other, would you bet they open the hip on the Chad variation or they do stepovers? I would hope. You had to bet. I would bet step ups and they open the hip because that is the workout. And I'd be a bit bummed if they elect to do a step-over. I think that adds – has anyone ever done 1,000 step-overs?

I mean, it just could be completely different and could hurt you in a completely different kind of way. Yeah, I mean, I've seen athletes testing it. I don't think it's a bad thing to do. I think it's definitely going to affect the body in a different way. Yeah. I would just like to see regular step ups, uh, fix the shit that happened in quarterfinals, have the judges out there say, look, this is a thousand fucking reps. If you want to get a hundred, no reps, that's fine. Or you can do the rep correctly. I think

that alone should be at the athletes intent, uh, incentive to do the exercise properly. Like have the best athletes in the world on the biggest stage in the world, do a fucking step up to standard. That's what I would like to see. So we'll see. Oh, wow. Being bent over 45 minutes sounds like odds type of weekend. That's just wow. You guys are ruthless. What else, what else, anything new from you, bro? Yeah. I, I've, when you start to see workouts come out, maybe not full workouts, but ones like this that are three movements that I think cause you to give pause to other movements, not coming out. Like for me, when I saw that endurance workout, really those two endurance workouts,

do you think we get anything else over 30 minutes? Cause I do not. I think that's it. I think that's it for the long time domain. And I think in, in by long, I think there's not going to be anything over 20 minutes from now on. I think this is it. I don't want to say there's not going to be anything over 20 minutes because if this workout is 5K into 1,400 minutes, any variation of this swim run workout is going to be over 30 minutes

for the fastest, no doubt. Chad clearly is going to be over 45 minutes. I would not be upset at all or surprised to see a workout where the longest it takes them 21 to 22 minutes. I'd be okay with that. Um, I think there's still probably needs to be two events that are at least 15 minutes. Yeah. I think you're going to see a couple of high, high teens ones, but I don't think you're going to see anything else over 20 after this. Um this. I guess I would be okay with that too, but they would need to be at least two high teens. One thing to note about the swim run that I have thought deeply on is

if it finishes with the swim, it punishes people who are bad at swimming 10X more than if it starts with the swim. The reason I think that is because, for instance, someone like me, say it's a 5K run into that swim and I'm comfortable in the water. I'm not the best swimmer in the world. There are swimmers who just can obliterate me, but I have the confidence at least to know that, hey, I can run a 5K at my 5K pace, like my hard 5K pace. And within the first 200 yards of the swim, my heart rate and breathing is going to come under control because of how limited you are to push super hard in the water. I'm efficient enough to move at a fast pace relative to the field while recovering. So I can run really hard and then 200 yards into the swim be kicking at a good tempo.

Whereas guys who are not comfortable in the water, not only are they not going to swim fast, but they're going to run slow because they're scared of swimming out of breath. So I, you know, while I think that that's the hardest variation and it's the one that we should test, I would be very, I don't know. I don't know if I'd be surprised to see it that way. If we do see it that way, the people who are not confident in the water are fucked with the capital F. No, I agree. It's a, it's an, it's a great point.

And I think it's one that we need to drive home because a lot of people haven't thought about that way. They see the workout and they're like, well, some of the best runners can get a pretty good lead on some of the people that aren't that great as swimmers. Yeah. But you aren't going to push the run. If you know, you're going to feel like you're going to drown as soon as you get in the water. So you aren't given that option anymore.

So guys that are good swimmers and strong runners, they know that they can maybe lure some of the poor swimmers into a pace on the run that they don't really want to do. But they'll get caught up in the moment and they'll get in the water and they're like, I definitely have to worry about them anymore. So, no, I think I think to your point, the best swimmers are way at a way bigger advantage in this workout than the best runners for sure. Yeah. And, you know, thinking about it now, I almost would be shocked if it didn't start with the swim, like a half mile swim, three and a half mile run. didn't start with the swim, like a half mile swim, three and a half mile run. That way you balance the playing field a little bit in terms of the swimmers who aren't super confident. At least they get to start fresh. I don't know. Thoughts? If you had to guess, does it start with the swim or does it start with the run? If I had to guess, I think the name of the workout, as simple as it is and as easy as it would be to insert another run on the end of that.

I think it is just run swim. I think it is just a long run, probably a 5k because of last year. And Dave likes to double down. He likes to correct mistakes. I mean, look what he did for Fibonacci the year of the finale. Only what two, two guys finished. They didn't like it. So the next year he inserted into the programming, um, box step-ups, Hey, guess what? We're going to quadruple down. And instead of doing, uh, instead of doing what a hundred of them in a workout, you're going to do a thousand now. So, I mean, I think that really makes sense. Another movement that I think about when I see run and swim is I think bike and biking is something he's asked almost everybody about in his interviews. And it's something that we've wondered, Hey, saw 2017 cyclocross. We saw some real biking at Pendleton. We saw real biking the past two years that Adrian programmed. Is it time that we take a year away from real biking? And the only

biking we see is a fan bike or a biker or something like that when i see this workout event one i think and i i hope i'm wrong because i think the bike repeater was a really really really cool workout at the ranch i don't see real biking after like i i mean unless they're gonna do it inside and they're gonna do like a down and back around a pylon and i like i said i hope they they they do something like that i think it'd be really cool i don't see real cycling this year come out anymore yeah uh when he was asking athletes about biking was he specific to saying this is real biking like on a bicycle yeah yeah he was he was he was specific to that he just wanted to know what they thought about it he didn't he was just curious i think you know, some people would say there's motives to every question that you're going to ask, but

I thought it was interesting seeing this and seeing step ups and we can get into this conversation. It's, it's a little bit in the weeds as far as geeking out. What is Chad? Like Chad, to me, that is a monostructural single modality workout. That is not weightlifting because it is basically walking or hiking or whatever. It is not gymnastics, even though a lot of people would say a box step up at body weight is a gymnastics movement, moving your body through space like a box jump. like a box jump. I see this as, as almost tantamount to let's just go on a really, really, really long ruck or let's go on a really, really, really long hike. I do not think this is anything but a monostructural test.

I wholeheartedly disagree. I will give you the argument to say that it's maybe not gymnastics or weightlifting, but it is far less monostructural than it is gymnastics or weightlifting for the simple fact that monostructural elements are cyclical and repetitive. And a box step up is not cyclical. If you step down from a box, cyclical or repetitive, if you don't listen, just because it's a thousand reps, doesn't make it cyclical. When you step down, you're not naturally going into your next step up. Like a run, if you start running, you're carrying momentum. If you start biking, you're carrying momentum. When you're swimming, it's cyclical because you're carrying momentum. There's no momentum from a box step up. It is 1,000 reps of a fucking full range of motion exercise you could possibly get.

No other monostructural movement. So what is it? That's a great question, but it's not monostructural. I'll give you the benefit and say, I wouldn't necessarily call it a gymnastic exercise. I wouldn't necessarily call it a weightlifting exercise, but I'm definitely not going to call it monostructural. I would call it- So if you put on a- I might call it retarded- If you put on a backpack and you've got your tent and you've got your fishing pole and you've got your can of corn to catch your trout on the river and you go and you say, I'm going to hike 10 miles out into the woods and I'm going to go by this river and I'm going to camp. That's not modest structural?

Walking is not stepping up onto a 20 inch box. So, so if they were doing this on the, so if they were doing it on stadium stairs, what would you say? If they're doing on a stair master, what would you say? Well, a stair master is by nature, fucking you're staying in the same spot and it's propelling for you. It's just different. Is that momentum though? Cause you're not, you're not ever, you're not ever doing an eccentric is what I'm saying. So like, so like what they didn't buy with the vest, you would say that's, that's monostructural. They're wearing a vest. They were just going up and up and up and up and up flights of stairs. That's what they were doing.

Right. There's no eccentric. And if you know anything about fucking exercise, Josh Anderson, you cuckoldold you would know the eccentric portion of the rep is what makes people most sore is what puts the most load on your fucking body that's true i don't know i don't know what the i don't know if there's a deeper definition to monostructural beyond it being cyclical and repetitive but stepping down and stepping up to a box is not cyclical or repetitive it's different than climbing stairs it's different than walking down the fucking street it's's different. And anyone in the comments who wants to argue and say it's not, you don't know what you're talking about. Guess what? You're wrong.

Yeah, because I think that that is a it's a conversation that there aren't many movements to argue about. But like we've talked about, especially the gymnastics stuff before, when you have a med ball,HD setup programmed in a workout, it is still a gymnastics movement. It doesn't just become weightlifting because it's loaded. Like I feel very strongly about stuff like that. And a lot of people- What about a goblet pistol squat?

A goblet pistol squat? Yeah, you got a hundred pound kettlebell on the front rack. Yeah, I would turn that into more of a weightlifting movement. It's a gray area for sure. Yeah. But, but, but from a programming standpoint, people can't just throw movements like that in and not think about the totality of all their, all their, uh, geez, dude, why don't you pull that up? Jacob Costa. So you can't, you can't help yourself. So beating my meat is cyclical. That's the fourth modality, bro. Wow.

Hey, show up. Don't ever tell me to chill or else I'll find out what your real name is and I'll dox you. to you when uh when dave said that they're going to release a lot more information a lot earlier this year is your initial reaction good if people are going to be doing something new at least giving them a little bit of a heads up is cool from an unknown and unknowable standpoint do you think that's only important um not in competition do you think it's like no at least once or twice at the games, they need to be thrown something that they don't have a chance to prepare for that. None of them have probably done. Where are you at on that? Are you like, are you bummed,

kind of bummed that they're going to be releasing so much stuff so early? Or are you, do you think that's a good thing from a spectator performance, whatever standpoint? spectator performance whatever standpoint uh i think dave is releasing more stuff this year to create more of a buzz because it's potentially his last year i don't know is this his going out party is this is i want to do it the right way and go out on my terms type of deal or is it just like i'm back bitches i don't know i think all of the event releasing has to do with this being his, back to his favorite thing to do after being fired and then after Boz doing it. Whether I like it or not, as an athlete, I prefer less time for everyone to prepare and for all of us to start on level playing fields

because I think that there are some athletes more than others that get more inside information than others. And I don't know. I guess that would mean that announcing it would give everyone a level playing field. I'm not sure how I feel about that. I know that a lot of athletes get shit that some others don't, and I do not like that. I hate that. Well, I think that point that you just made is one that people should consider.

While you can't have your cake and eat it too. So you can't, you can't say, I don't want anyone to have any heads up, but then think that it's okay that things are leaked. So athletes have more time to prepare. Like you need to pick one or the other. I think if you don't want there to be people who get inside information, then just let everything come out and just say, here's what you got to do. You got a week or two to prepare for it. This is what these, this here's, here are the movements, right? We'll give you all the workouts, not all the details. These are the movements you're going to have to do. And there's going to be some weird stuff in there that you

don't know what it even is. Maybe you don't have any, you've never seen it before or whatever. But I think that's the only way to take away people talking and athletes getting an edge based on information they get. Barclay Dale. Remember when I gargled 17 times when Taylor was on Jeopardy because I was getting so excited at the thought of him naked. And I don't remember that. Matt Byrne says, oh, we remember that too barclay cool um yeah not a

big fan of leaks i think that might also like you said play a big role into why he's releasing this stuff i do think it does have to do with him creating a bug creating excitement um oh do we think demo athletes will leave the workouts? I would venture to say, let me just get this out. Sydney Wells, Trista Smith, and what's the other one? The other athlete, female? Annika Greer. Annika Greer.

For whatever reason, I don't see Colton and Tudor giving anyone any sort of help. I don't really see Scott Tetlow giving anyone any sort of help either. Why are you being so sexist? I just see women as talking more than men, bro. Call me sexist. But hey, if you're in the comments and you're a lady and you think I'm wrong, unfuck me. But I don't see Colton Tudor or Scott leaking anything unless somebody holds a gun to Tudor's head. I do think that potentially Sidney tells Brooke, it's her sister. Come on, Sarah, come on. You don't think Sidney's telling Brooke anything?

I think something you should consider is that some of the demo athletes won't be doing testing until they get to Fort Worth. Because, you know, Dave's even said there are a lot of workouts that can't be tested because we have to wait until we have access to all the equipment. We have to wait until there are certain aspects of the venue that we can't recreate. So I think a lot of the demo athletes and maybe some of the ones that you're showing concern about are like, Hey, you're demo athletes, but you're not going to start testing stuff until we actually get there. And that might be two weeks before a week before

whatever. Melanie Hodge, don't they all sign NDAs? Yes. Did you? Yeah, you did. I signed an NDA for sure. Um, but people sign NDAs all the time and break the shit out of them. Yeah. And to this day, um, Taylor has not like, has not told me anything about what he did at the ranch. Other than him getting hurt, he's been very tight-lipped about that. I didn't tell Jason either. Jason called me when I got home. He's like, dude, just tell me the workouts. Am I going to do well?

Am I going to do well? I was like, nah, bro, you're getting cut. Oh, jeez. And he did. He did do well, right? He was like 19th. I would say that. Oh, that was rookie.

That wasn't the year after. That was rookie. Yeah, yeah. So 19th. Yeah. I never received any leads. Any other thoughts? What do you think the next announced workout is going to be?

I think the next announced workout is going to be single modality gymnastics. Wow. So you would say we've had. You know what I would say about Chad and you would disagree and that's okay but it is a long no skill uh non uh weight lifting limiting workout so that's two of those so i would say it's either going to be something heavy or it's going to be something heavy or it's going to be something where it's going to be skill limiting. Maybe skill limiting is a better way to put it. But I, you know, just seeing 30 strict ring muscle ups for time on main site, looking at what's come out so far, it should probably be something skilled or something heavy.

It should probably be something skilled or something heavy. And I think back to the year they did what? They did the crit, and then they did the total, and they did 30 ring muscle-ups for time. That was day one that year, right? Crit. Total and 30 ring muscle-up. And then they did the marathon row that night too.

Am I imagining that? I think they did. Or the half. That was like the hardest. Or the half. That was like the hardest. That was like the half. That was like the hardest first day of the games or one day of the games. In the comments, just Jason Miller just catching up on 1.5X. That speed for those of you who never went to college. But I think they'll do the back-to-back girls again.

That's cool. Back-to-back girls again. I think that would be sick. I'd like to see something like that. You know what? I would like to do the back-to-back girls again. That's cool. Back-to-back girls again. I think that would be sick. I'd like to see something like that. You know what? I would like to see the new girls. With power cleans? I'd like to see Lila.

I'd like to see Lila. I'd like to see Ellen. And I would like to see... Yeah, on the Get With The Programming show, I said I was hopeful that they would use one of the new girls, but I hope that it's Andy at like 95 and 65. I'd like to see Andy as well, and that would freaking annihilate people. That'd be cool. Cool.

I don't know. Davis said that the pass is a good place to start this year when looking at the programming. And then when he was on with us at syndicate, when you were competing, he said he was really excited about the games because he's, he's excited to get back to our roots and to get back to just kind of like good old fashioned CrossFit. Very, very, very, not unlike the semifinals were. So. Yeah. I think, I think, I think more. I think there'll be more nostalgia and more nostalgic workouts not necessarily like um

reloads but more oh man i remember when they did a workout like this in 2012 or oh wow i remember when they did uh a workout in 2018 that had these two elements, but they've added this one. So I think there will be a lot of like callbacks to other workouts this year. Do you think they would ever do a workout like some variation of Michael? Maybe it would have to be three rounds of 800 meter run, 50 deadlifts, 50 bodyweight deadlifts, 50 GHGs, or GHG into deadlift potentially just for the race to finish and maybe the barbell is like that 195 145 or 195 135 like standard semi-final they would do anything like that i think after event i think after event one

the longest run that you're going to see in a workout is 400 meters from now on. And I'll throw this out there because, and I mean, sure, they do this in actual track and they do this in the Olympics and blah, blah, blah. But I think Angelo mentioned it. Or maybe he didn't. Maybe I asked him about it. Do you think if they just did a 400-meter sprint for time for individuals, that would be cool? And then do you think doing a four-by 400 meter sprint for time for individuals, that would be cool. And then do you,

and then do you think doing a four by one for teams would be cool? I think four by one for, for teams would be real. I'm sorry. Four by four for teams would be cool. A four by four relay would be sick, but you don't think it would be sick just as a, as an individual work. No, I think it would be cool as a team of four to get on the track and do a four by four relay. That would be really cool. I don't want to see a 400 meter run for time as a hundred points quarterback.

I just don't, I don't know. I just don't want to see that. Yeah. In the same way that you, in the same way that you don't want to see a thousand step ups or. Take it easy. Uh, I'm over Chad. I'm over Chad. Honestly, I'm over it. I'm over it. I'm over Chad. Honestly, I'm over it.

I'm over it. I'm fine with it. Fuck it. The last event before cuts, honestly, that makes it 10 times more savage to me. And I'm like, at this point, at least if you're going to do it, you know. I love that it's before cuts. I think that's a cool thing. I think people can't just be like, I'll just get like a middle of the pack and just not destroy my body for the rest of the weekend.

What did you see us doing? Did you see them doing a nasty Nancy repeat? I think Nancy is one of those timeless workouts that they could do in however many different ways they want, and it would not ever get old. It would still be a good test. I love it. It's one of my favorite girl workouts. Yeah.

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