The Sevan Podcast - CrossFit Games Off-Site Event at a New Lake | Shut Up & Scribble Ep 11

Episode Date: July 29, 2023

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Shut up and scribble. Got a really awesome show. Throwing on our tinfoil hats, having some fun. It's a week out from the game. So it seems like an appropriate time to just have a good show, have fun, speculate a little bit. With it being a fun show, we've got Aaliyah Miller joining us as a guest. Aaliyah, what's up? Hey, thanks for having me. Yeah, thanks for coming on.

Did you say we had tinfoil hats? We have tinfoil hats. Oh! You have a tinfoil yarmulke you fucking you made a minute you made it a minute 10 seconds i only have to make it 30 dude yeah i know that's what it's a record it's a robin hood tinfoil hat no it's not you have a yarmulke dude Dude, what kind? Let's go. Sweet. I say we just dive into it. Let's go.

JR? Conspiracy number one. Conspiracy number one. We got some conspiracy boards. We got at least three conspiracies we're going to roll through. It's going to be a crazy show, so you're going to want to stick it out to the end. JR, you want to take grace? No, take grace no dude oh yeah it's okay it's in the thumbnail anyways okay off-site location go go go go go someone we know where the off-site location is going to happen this year at the 2023 crossfit games

let's start with the first one well we know based on the schedule that on Thursday there's an off-site event for teams and individuals only. See the column in the middle of the screen. Thursday, the third highlighted column. There is a blank there. So it's not a Coliseum, not at North Park, and it's only individual men, women, and teams. So we can assume that that's likely an off offsite location. There's one heat of each, looks like a mass start event.

And then we can also assume that it would probably involve the bike that they posted a picture of, since we also know that those are the only two divisions using that bike. Yeah, we initially we were looking around and there were no, you know, people are saying, oh, there's been no permits taken out in Madison. They're not going to swim this year because of the crocodiles and the algae and all that other stuff in the lake. They can't swim in the pool because we're broke this year. Every year, CrossFit has no money and the pool costs a lot of money. So we did some digging.

Will got his shovel out and we found this off-site venue called devil's lake park one hour outside of madison that has a lake that has a mountain bike trail do you have the video for this uplands loop trail did you pull that in no i just took that screenshot on the right of the grass trail anyways so this was our initial uh this is like me thinking jfk got killed by the cia odds are it's like it's pretty likely but still kind of far out there even his nephew believes it dude it's it's it's look it's close jr what do you think how well based on the picture dave posted this morning could mean nothing could mean something and looking into that post how much less confident are you about Devils Park? After Dave's post, I think it's probably pretty safe to assume the off-site workout is going to be at the Odin Boat Ramp. They have – Halpin posted this earlier, but they have a three-year contract. use in however they want and whatever way they want of this area of the Odin,

Odin, Odin, Odin, Odin park boat ramp for the CrossFit games. So even if the water's dirty, that doesn't mean they can't use it. Maybe they just take a little boat ride, maybe row. Aaliyah, would you want to see the kayak uh like the paddle come back or would you not want to see that again in like a single mode out like in a in a monostructural only setting would you be let down or excited if you saw like a bike and a paddle i would be disappointed if this off-site event is monostructural only period no matter what it is because they're already doing the 5k run um i think i would be okay with seeing a paddleboard

kayak whatever if they combine it with something else um i also was curious about what's the timing between the off-site event and then the next event which i think is the pig chipper is there even enough time that they could get to that uh devil's park whatever and come back i think so no yeah that's that's the other thing after looking at the times on the schedule the first place is it'd be like 9 30 to 10 30 and then they're supposed to start yeah yeah swinging a big miss there so we can assume it's olin park um you you wouldn't like strictly monostructural say it's a bike paddle even if there are other events of the crossfit games say the olympic weightlifting total and maybe another benchmark that are all barbell or all weightlifting? I don't know. I guess it depends. So theoretically,

a 5K is going to be like 20 minutes or less, but it's still getting into that aerobic length test. So if you're doing another aerobic length monostructural test, length test. So if you're doing another aerobic length monostructural test, um, you know, a, a one rep max clean and jerk and a one rep max snatch versus a barbell cycling workout, you're testing two different things, even though it's both barbell. Um, I feel like if there's a 5k and then there's also something that's like swim, bike, whatever, you're testing very similar things with that. And I don't know, especially since it looks like we only have what 11 or 12 events for the individuals this year versus in the past has been like 14, 15.

If you're going to reduce the number of tests and you're going to have two aerobic monostructural tests i think you lose uh some of the uh breadth of testing for the crossfit games well it already appears as though we have three single modality tests anyway so it's adding a fourth one in general is there going to be a fifth one i mean we'll you know we'll get to that speculation in a second is are half the tests going to be that way is that the point that half of them are going to be mixed modal and half of them are going to be single modality and that's like the idea behind them and you don't get to do i don't know four of them unless you make the cut you know unless you make the first cut And the only one that you get to do is the mass start one on Thursday.

You know, we don't know that yet, but I'm in a Leah's boat. We talked about this when we picked our most well-programmed CrossFit games ever that the first workout being monostructural, whether it's one or two elements or not, to it's just kind of eh it's it's we've been doing it for so long the year that they did the swim with the threat with the kettlebell thrusters and the burpees i think a lot of people was like yeah that's the way that they should serve up a swim if they're going to do a swim so i i'm kind of with with her and that if they do use this boat dock if they're on the bikes that they're they're doing something in between

it's also possible that the bikes are going to show up for a north park event they could be biking around the venue who knows i don't want to see a paddleboard or a kayak if they use the water for anything other than swimming i'd want to see scuba diving or rowing just kidding on scuba diving but actually like rowing on a row boat well i was wondering like would they would they just do like is that too hard like all these benchmarks would they just do a 2k row for time is that on the water and those yeah on the water are those rowing that would be cool those skinny little boats dude i feel like i would tip over well i was talking to canoe i was talking

to chase ingram about that and he was like dude if you think that sleds might give a competitive advantage based on the lane you have no idea until you're on the water and the wind changes and then you're like wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute our heat had no wind and their heat has wind and like all like there's just too many variables to make it legitimate from heat to heat to heat i guess they could just do one but i've always kind of wondered how long it would be before they put teams in like a row situation with like four people rowing one boat or the individuals because they've never done it before there's only so many monostructural elements that can be tested how expensive are those? I feel like they're pretty pricey.

I don't know. I mean, don't you think they could just rent them? Maybe. I'm sure Rogue will make one. On the 5K run, at this point, then we already know that the 5K run is probably out of North Park, into the dog park, and back because the final event schedule. We already know it's on saturday

right yeah it's likely pretty much yep we can almost say that it's going to be that north park 10 10 event and since it's just it says individuals we can assume it's going to be a mass start of men and women yep well it's interesting that you say we pretty much know because i know alia um along with the rest of us in this group, feel pretty strongly about the fact that they've released three single modality tests. And yet the gymnastics one has essentially no details released. But most people assume that at least half of what we need to know for the 5k run and the olympic total has been released and the argument against that being well um it doesn't matter if someone knows they're going to run a 5k or not they're not going to increase their maximum sustainable pace or their aerobic

capacity in two weeks they're just they're just going to have what they have likewise even if someone knows they're going to be maxing out on a snatch and a clean and jerk, regardless of what the, what the implement is, they know they're probably not going to see a lot of improvement. So who cares? We can let them know two weeks in advance. Yet if they know they're going to be doing triple unders, press the handstands and a max, um, L hang from the rings, people can improve that in two weeks. What do you guys think about that mindset of, well, because to me, it just still shows a big bias. It still shows a big bias in thinking that the unknown part of it is more important than just letting all three modalities be known as much as the other.

I think we likely know a lot less about the Olympic total and the 5K than we think we do. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. You really think that? I know you hope for it. Or do you just want to think that? I want to think that. Okay. I really want to think that? I want to think that. Okay. I really want to think that.

I wouldn't be surprised if there's details about the 5K and the Lyft that they haven't released. However, I think, and this goes back to just like the principle behind it. It doesn't matter what the actual tests are. The fact that there are three single modality tests and they are only releasing details ahead of time on two of those single modality tests, it inherently biases the programming because now you have the gymnastics specialists who already know what they're getting into with the other two single modality tests. So they can prepare for damage control on those two tests however they need to, whether

it's figuring out what their optimal 5k pace is. You know, we know it's a trail run, so they can go find a like a cross country course or something like that to practice on to see what the difference is between running on the ground versus running on grass. You know, we know that it's a 20 second lifting window, and you've only got two attempts, so they can figure out what their openers are um you know how how a certain weight feels after a you know 15 to 20 minute corral time um so the gymnasts have the opportunity to prepare for that damage control on those two tests what you're now doing you're taking the weightlifting specialists and the monostructural specialists and taking away their opportunity to prepare for that damage control in the same way. So now the test is inherently biased towards gymnasts overall. And it doesn't matter what the events are.

It's just the fact that two have details released and one doesn't when it's three monostructural tests. If it was like with non-monostructural tests, I don't care. Release details, don't release details, whatever. If you have three monostructural tests, they all need to be treated exactly the same to create an equitable test across the board. So either release all the details for all three or don't release the details for any. And I'd be totally fine with either, but just make it consistent. Yeah. It would be like, to me, like having heard what you said, as far as the announcements go,

it would be like saying, okay, if you're going to say gymnastics skill test, then the other two announcements should have just been 5k should have just been 5k heavy. Yeah. Are you running? Are you biking? Are you rowing? Or just say, or just say weightlifting, just say weightlifting 5k skills test. And now there's about as much, um, like questioning for all three, right? It's, it's, it's, it's almost the same. I mean, I think the point about the damage control is the best point that you can make, because there are a lot of people who are not going to get a back roll to support or who are not going to get a press to handstand in two weeks, but at least they know going in, Hey, like I, I know what the other two things are going to be. So how can I accrue as many points as I possibly can on this workout?

Just like, hey, I know if I come out at this running pace, I'm screwed. So I'm probably not going to come out at this running pace. I think there's probably room for one more single modality test. Meaning, I think we got to move on. i think we got to go to drop our next thing but first i want to pull this up and ask if this is legit can we get it can we get a confirmation on this that's a that's fact okay well and they're probably paddle boarding at north park can we answer this ashby five dollars would be crazy to think the 5k total and skills are all a single event.

Oh, nah. Yes. Because just look at the schedule, the event schedule. Yeah. They've already announced the 5k and the total as two separate events on the website. Awesome. Thanks Ash. Cool. Next topic. Is not a conspiracy. So this one, um, This one's a slip. Slip of the dick. Mike Halpin sent me the one that's more in text form. And on this past Sunday, someone on Instagram sent me a picture of cat programming and said, you know, is this kind of a hint?

Right. cat programming and said, you know, is this kind of a hint, right? You have the 5k run on Saturday, on Thursday of Helen and on Friday, there's grace. And I was kind of joking with Chase the other day saying, what if like, you know, they want you to use that app and go on and update all your stats. Like what if, what if we're going to, what if they're going to do all these? And it's like a way to get everyone to go in and put in all their benchmarks because you can just go in and follow along with the games and do all these tests.

But here we can see on the monthly focus that they're preparing to do Gwynn, which we can talk about Gwynn. That would be sick to see in the games. Awesome. Yeah, I'd love to see that. But if you read it, it says, in the first week of this month, athletes will perform these benchmarks alongside the CrossFit Games. Helen, Grace, and a 5K fun run, which we can dig into what that fun run part means. And then this is just brilliant editing work to the right, it looks like.

I mean, when I saw it at first i actually thought it was the announcement so um yeah i mean i don't think that they would have put that in there for no reason and i'm not sure if they meant to do it i'm not sure if it was supposed to come out that they were doing grace i'm not sure if uh like the v up and saying your feet are together if alongside is uh kind of parallel to that word it's like alongside that really makes it sound like they're doing grace and we're going to do grace now whether it's the same thing or not we can we can dive in now to speculation if if they're doing grace there's another single modality test that's weightlifting, but barbell cycling. What do we think it would be? I think they're, I think they probably mean the games.

Athletes are going to do a version of grace because they said Helen and the five K, which we know the CrossFit games athletes are doing a version of, I highly doubt it's one 35, 95 grace or even heavy grace. I highly doubt it's two 95 grace or even heavy grace i highly doubt 225 155 um i think there's probably a little bit more of an unexpected twist on it think like a 165 115 barbell or an axle bar potentially and you have some other ideas jr that you should speculate upon yeah well i i i said a little bit tongue-in-cheek uh on sunday night when i did the prediction show but um you know last year they announced big lifts return on saturday and

it was a highlight reel of them as people snatching and clean and jerking and and i came on the show and i was this was after boz came on and said oh yeah did you guys see that yeah it looked really cool didn't it yeah i'm glad you guys saw that and i was just thinking to myself he sounded a little bit like he knew something that no one else did and i was like you know what if what if big lifts do return but they're not doing barbell and they did the sandbag ladder which was cool um and i was you know in a conspiracy mindset at the time and reading into the post and it said you know athletes will perform an olympic total an olympic total not the olympic total not where it's just an Olympic total.

And now they release a lot of details with lifting windows and stuff. But to me, there's one of two options. Either they're going to do grace, but it's going to be like odd object grace because it wouldn't make a lot of sense to me. Programming wise to do grace traditionally on a Friday and then turn around on Saturday to max out with a barbell. traditionally on a Friday and then turn around on Saturday to max out with a barbell clean and jerk. So either it's like odd object grace, whether it's double dumbbell, whether it's circus dumbbell, 30 for time, whether it's sandbag grace, whatever. And then on the Olympic total, it's traditional barbell or vice versa, where they do a barbell grace. And then what everyone thinks is a barbell max, they're actually doing double dumbbell for load or they're doing,

um, single dumbbell snatch or they're doing something different for the, for the heavy. And I think the latter is probably more likely. You think it's more likely that they do odd object or heavy? I think it's more likely that, that grace is odd object. That's, that's what I think. I think because the odd object, I think because the more likely that Grace is odd object. That's what I think. I think

because the odd object, I think because the heavy event last year was odd object, I think it's more likely the heavy event this year is a barbell and that Grace is odd object. I'd like to see an axle bar. I think we haven't seen that in a while. I think the other option could be

it's not that Grace is going to be at the games, but Grace is a parallel to the Walnut Max Clean and Jerk. But because the cat programming focus for the month is Gwen, which involves barbell cycling, they want to take an event from the games, focus it more towards barbell cycling. And Grace is a way to do that. That's an interesting take.

Yeah. Yeah. No, i think that's great because i would i didn't think about that i mean i wouldn't be completely shocked if grace was an event but it would also be a little bit weird to me if they had you know they announced the pig chipper for thursday and pig flips are basically really heavy clean and jerks yep uh and then if they're doing clean and jerks on friday and then clean and jerks. And then if they're doing clean and jerks on Friday and then clean and jerks again on Saturday, that would be strange to me. I don't know. Yeah. I think to me, like from a, from a spectacle standpoint, let's say they do a version of grace and you have all these odd

object versions and you have log clean and press, you know, which they did at rogue or you have um double dumbbell or whatever like a sandbag grace i think would be the most brutal and like the most fun to watch it would just be like who can hang on for 30 touch and go just like when you do grace who can hold on for 30 touch and go i think it would preserve the stimulus of the workout we talked about that a lot with helen about how a lot of people want to take Helen and just completely dismantle it and make it a new workout where we really, if, if you know,

Boz, you know, he's probably not going to do that. He's probably going to keep it as classic Helen feel as, as he could. I don't know. I, I,

I would just be really surprised if there's another single modality workout period. And that, and that brings about the conversation with Helen in terms of now we have 25 chest-to-bar with the pig chipper announced. So I think it's likely to assume we're not getting pull-ups or chest-to-bars on Helen and rather probably not even a bar muscle-up. I think rings are likely.

I feel like Helen is going to be something with like a new pull-up bar implement because I feel like that's probably part of the reason why they announced this new rule with the grips um you know they specifically said it's just for this event and they're going to reevaluate if that becomes an enduring rule but just for the 2023 crossfit games they have this rule about grip length and if you're throwing in a rotating pull-up bar or an axle bar or a log bar like they had at rogue or something like that then yes having longer grips could give you an advantage over other athletes um and i don't know why else they would decide to make this new grip rule mid-season so i wouldn't

be shocked if either in the pig chipper or in helen it's a different bar. Yeah, I mean, this is for sure I agree with that. On Sunday I even said, like, the order of things that happened, they randomly announce this grip rule and they say, hey, it's just for this competition. Then they announce Helen. Like, my brain immediately just goes to where if it's not Helen, there's a workout at the games where they think that the length of your grips is really going to matter and is really going to show who can, it might

disguise who can really do something and who can't just because they have that competitive advantage. So whether or not they're just doing, I mean, that's a really good point Taylor made with the chest of art. And you think about when these things are happening, we still don't know when Helen is. We don't know if it's Friday night. We don't know if it's Friday early in the day. It feels like a Friday night event to see people sell their souls at classic CrossFit to see who gets cut and who doesn't. But yeah, I mean, is it going to be burpee pull up? Well, we know that, you know, I mean mean your point about having the chest of our now on thursday adds a whole new element to it we know that can you pull that graphic the grace graphic

back up will we know that the pig chipper is individual test too so that's coming after the off-site event and we know that what it says here is that on august 4th which is friday we're gonna have grace so we know event one is off-site potentially we think they're gonna do grace yeah right well i don't know i i think it's at this point well we'll see i'll go as far as to say as i think we know on thursday we have the off-site event and then the pig chipper and then a third workout in the evening. On Friday, potentially Grace and a 5K run. Well, Saturday is the 5K. Sorry.

So we look at Coliseum likely to have Grace. What if Helen is the off-site event and it's a swim instead of a run wow or a paddle what would they do for the 12 i don't know maybe they set up rigs at the boat ramp who knows and they just do pull-ups wet like after the swings i mean 21 swings might be long enough to get your hands kind of dry i guess they could still wrap the bars with whatever they use for the uh for the pool bar muscle up workout that year um yeah i i mean if we assume that helen has running and i think it's a pretty fair assumption and we know that they're going to run a 5k whether they do it as a fun run which like does that mean that every 1k there's an obstacle that they have to do maybe like or does it mean that race is a sponsor does it mean yeah does it mean that they wear a

maybe like whatever um is it like a just a straight spartan race maybe okay so but they're running twice unless they run for speed in a straight sprint and a sprint with some change in directions, if a sprint with some hurdle jumps, whatever, to me that I will look at the entirety of the programming. Um, I would say more or less favorably depending on if there's another run and how it's served up because you already have long and you already have sub maximal but still hard efforts and i'm wondering if we'll get that third running workout if we'll get a fourth running workout because sometimes at the game we've games we've had it with 12 i would think three is the maximum i've actually done

this and i'm going to send this video to Will so he can pull it up on the show. Not kidding. What's more likely that Helen doesn't have a run or is it more likely that the bike, so Helen doesn't have a run and it's instead swimming or that the bike and the swim slash paddle would be in the same event? Do we think that the bike and the swim slash paddle would be in the same event? Do we think that the bike and swim are in the same event? I don't. Or it's a biking, Helen. Bike and water?

Yeah. Like if they don't swim, but that the bike and the water. I would say it's more likely that the bike and the water are in the same workout. It's not going to be easy for me to pull that up, Tyler, by the way. Okay, no worries. I'm going to send it anyways. Okay. I don't know. The thing that keeps getting me about Helen is if we're using that CAP programming bullet point to assume that Thursday is Helen, Friday is Grace, Saturday is a 5K.

They've already announced the pig chipper. The other two events, one is offsite and one's in the Coliseum. If they're running for Helen, it would make more sense to me if Helen was at North Park or they're running on air runners in the Coliseum. Or do you remember the run clean event? How cool would that be if they ran out of the Coliseum, ran back inside for the pull-ups and the kettlebell swings? And I was thinking about that as I was saying it, but they weren't able to get exactly a 400 meter for that, which I guess it wouldn't matter if everybody's doing the same distance. But if they want to stay true to the benchmark,

I don't know. Well, and I guess they have set up rigs inside the Coliseum, but usually the rig work is outside. Yeah. Um, they've, they've done the rig work in the Coliseum before, but it's usually, it's been like a progression, right? Cause the, you know, the one year, the finale had the chest of bar and they did them on what, three different pull-up bars and the year that they did the clean bar muscle up, they did a single on each, on each bar. And then, um, yeah, I mean, they mean, they've had some rig work inside, but it looks a lot better. And I think, although I've been told that they don't have the lights,

like Helen under the lights outside couldn't be any more exciting. Like, I think that would be really cool if they did that. Yeah, that would be cool. I don't think there's any North Park events at night, though, unfortunately. Yeah. So you want to pull up the board of the events we know so far yeah we know Grace is coming I put it on there we're good

about it let's go so Helen it's not going to be with a pull-up bar I don't think I don't even think I would be very shocked to see the CrossFit Games replicate something that Rogue already implemented in the Invitational like I would just be shocked to see them use a log bar uh the rotating pull-up bar or the swinging pull-up bar

to JR's point possibility maybe but I think the rings are just probably a safe bet so if that's the case I don't have it off the top of my head but there was a workout program my main site one day in the last year that was max ring dip max ring pull-up. Can you think of a way that they standardize that? Is it basically a chest to ring pull-up?

Do you think there's any way? Do you think they would use a rope and do a rope climb variation instead with Helen? Thinking about Helen just being a kettlebell of some kind of hinge and a pulling form of gymnastics like what do you what you don't think a ring muscle up is likely I am going to be really shocked if we get ring muscle ups in all four stages of competition this year one of my predictions is that there wouldn't be muscle-ups, and there would either be a higher-level ring skill or that they would just do something like a ring row or a ring push-up. Could you see ring rows for Helen?

I could see – no. I could see – man. I'm on the other side of that in thinking that they figured that in semi-finals they weeded enough people who are bad at ring muscle-ups out that the 12 ring muscle-ups at the end of helen is an appropriate test and we get to see the people the best in the world all do it unbroken and fast or a lot of them do it unbroken and fast i don't think helen is the place to put the ring row or the ring dip or the ring pushup unless they adjust the reps. I don't think 12 is enough in that workout.

I, I wouldn't be shocked if there are ring muscle ups this year. I would be surprised if they were in Helen. I feel like Boz wants to do more with the rings than just ring muscle-ups. So I'm kind of expecting the rings to show up in the gymnastic skills test somehow. Also, if you think about three rounds of 12 ring muscle-ups,

for the guys, that's probably not an issue. For the girls, last year, up and over, was three rounds of 12 ring muscle-ups. Not a single female kept three rounds unbroken. Tia only did two rounds unbroken, and she was the only one to do two rounds unbroken. And she did 12, 12, and then 8, 4 for her last round. So if we're trying to keep the same stimulus as Helen,

I don't know that I would expect to see ring muscle-ups in that. Yeah. And in that workout, the ring muscle-ups were proceeding the jumping variation, right? They didn't have to go GHD muscle-up. They went muscle-up GHD, right?

There wasn't a lot of interference. It was muscle-up jump GHD. Yeah. So it wasn't a lot. Yeah. So. But they repeated the muscle up ghd pairing that they did in quarterfinals yeah yeah true i'm i'm i uh um am really curious if there are muscle

ups because you could go on two ways right ali you did the workout with the ruck and the ring complex. Was that workout a screen for Helen with muscle ups? You know, we're not going to know that until the details of Helen get released, but since, and you think about, they did, since they did 20 at the end of the first workout in the open, and then they did a chunk of 15 in the middle of quarterfinals. And then they started a semifinal workout with muscle ups weighted where are we going now are we going to okay cool i know you guys can actually do them with a ruck so now you're just going to do big chunks of them with a ruck or are we just saying well i know if you can do that then you can probably do trickery muscle ups if you're able to do them weighted with a vet. I'm curious what the thought process of using the Ruck at semis,

was that a screening process for the games? I think using the Ruck at semis was because Go Ruck was a sponsor and they didn't have any other place to put the Ruck in. And is Go Ruck a sponsor again? Because I've been thinking too, where's the Ruck going to show up at the games? I mean, it could be a Ruck 5K. thinking too like where where's the ruck going to show up at the game yeah i mean it could be a ruck 5k um i i don't know that that ring complex with the ruck is enough to say okay everybody who makes

it to the games is now we assume capable of doing 12 unbroken ring muscle-ups for three rounds um i mean there's at least one person who made it to the games and didn't do a single ruck muscle-up. Yeah, I think they don't care about her. I think one, they don't give a shit about the bottom of the field. I think two, when we're thinking about the grip thing, what I always want to go back to is that it wasn't announcing a grip standard. It was announcing a document full of

standards and there just happened to be a massive fuck up on the two pictures. So I think that's where everybody's eyes went. And I also, but it was a new standard that was introduced mid season because that standard didn't exist going into semifinals. Yeah. I think it's just as likely that they, you look at that 25 chest to bar, 50 toes to bar, 50 toes to bar, 25 chest to bar, and are like, we don't want people just draping their grips over the bar and smashing this part of the workout or making it unfair. I mean, that's such a dense piece of pulling and grip stamina just in that one workout that I could see that being the reason. being the reason and i also don't know that when they look at the entirety of the game's programming they're worried about taking a progression from each element of the season into each workout like i don't think they're looking for a progression in each workout um and i i don't know i think ring muscle ups is simple and helen and i think if you make the kettlebell heavier, it's a really simple three rounds per time, 400-meter run, 21 swings, 12 muscle-ups.

I am like we have that pig chipper workout. So, you know, one of the big things, and me and Taylor talked about this because he asked about doing them on a pegboard, and I said, what about doing them on stalwarts? What about just having strict toes-to-bar? So are we just going to assume the chest to bar and the toes to bar just straightforward? You can butterfly them.

You can keep them in this format. Probably I would say, I would say that's too dense of a set to be messing around with doing strict variations. But to your point, Taylor, what if the chest to bars just do what you want, but then on Helen, it's you have to keep.

Let's pull up that schedule again. Will. Which days? A Thursday schedule. Because your point about programming kipping as a training tool and as a way to almost program single unders, but on gymnastics because a lot of people don't train anymore. And if you're put in a situation where you have to do a big set of kipping pull-ups and all you ever do is butterfly, it is going to be a lot harder. It's going to feel a lot different. I could see the 25 chest to bar and the pig chipper

being mandated as kipping. I don't think that they, I don't, or if it's not, I don't see them. I still don't see them going back to the pull-up bar for Helen. I don't see them doing a hundred reps on the pull-up bar and the pig chipper, and then coming back the next day and doing more pull-up bar. Yeah. I wouldn't be totally surprised. Sorry. I wouldn't be totally surprised if I think Taylor, you mentioned, um, Helen was with rope climbs from alpaca. Yeah. I mean, you got a kettlebell and it was supposed to be a kettlebell workout with legless. You got a kettlebell with Helen. What if it's like, what if it's three, you know, 421, three, when, when Helen was originally programmed,

the grip was basically the limiting factor for everybody. So that could be a way of bringing the grip back as the limiting factor. Do you have the video of Dave and his weekend review? We didn't ask you to pull that up. So probably not. Not ready, but I could. All right. It's it's what is it? 1746 Jr.

Yeah. Is this worth talking about? You can tell me now. I mean, to me, it was so random and so awkward that it made me like listen stop it listen to it again stop it listen to it again and that was right and send it to 10 people that was right after my prediction show so obviously my brain was like in super everything is a skill everything or everything is a hint everything is conspiracy all that kind of stuff but i just found it odd that he mentioned this when just

talking about helen being a cool workout and how they were programming a variation of the games he mentions that james fitzgerald did it before the butterfly pull-up was ever invented. And then he just, and then he just moves on. Like it's, it was very, it was, I'm not saying he, it was an oops. I don't think Dave ever mints his words. I think he always means to say what he means to say. But I just thought this was odd. So what time is it at? You said, how long can we play this for?

However long it's Dave's account. I think it's 1746's account what time it's like i think it's 17 46 is that like 15 seconds or 10 maybe and a lot more to come with that helen super cool you know someone else i saw somewhere comment about how the um they remember early on james fitzgerald doing helald doing Helen at the original gym. Is it, is it lagging for everyone? Probably.

Yeah. If we wait, if we wait for it to load, will it? Probably not. Okay. Nevermind. In like seven something or was it sub seven?

It was really fast. And it was actually this person when I, where I saw the comment said it was pre the butterfly pull-up, which it was. So really cool event to see. Yeah. Like, come on. How you moved into that and then tried to move off of that, that was not normal. That was not smooth.

It was just like, wait a minute. Did you just say something that yeah maybe we needed to be paying attention to i think if the audience strict l sit pull up i i think i think l pull up would be sick and i think that totally destroys the stimulus same as the seated legless yeah yeah there's like okay half the field can't do it everybody's failing if it's seven you think half the field seven l pull-ups. I don't think more than- Four rounds, 421-7. Three rounds.

Three rounds, 421-7. I still don't think half the field does those seven unbroken in men and women. I don't know. Really? I think so. The women? For sure not. Can they use supinated or does it have to be pronated?

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don't know but i was just thinking you know i was just thinking what it would if you just said you know if you said for this workout no one can use grips i don't think they're going to do that but even so like if you if you go and you and and you do Helen or you do intervals of a Helen type workout and you butterfly versus doing standard kipping pull-ups, the stimulus is a lot different. And the time under tension is so much different than even if you made the kettlebell a little bit heavier, or if you bump the pull-ups up to 21 and you just did three rounds of 421, 21, it would be completely different workout and a lot of people probably couldn't do three rounds of 21 unbroken doing

kipping the other thing the other thing about the l pull-up is at the bottom of the rep are you standardizing whether the head comes through at the bottom because a lot of people are just doing the l pull-ups like this and staying back instead of coming through and it's a whole lot fucking harder to come through and i mean it's tough like is it just if the heel passes below the buttock like what's the what's the l standard the buttock yeah so proper i think um i wouldn't be shocked to see some version of a progressive Helen. Boz really likes the progressive workouts. We had them in the open.

We had them in quarterfinals. I don't know that we had any at semifinals. So I just made up my own version of Helen last week. I did 400-meter run. First round, I did 21 kettlebell swings. Second round, I did 21 double kettlebell cleans. And third round, I did 21 kettlebell swings. Second round, I did 21 double kettlebell cleans. And third round, I did 21 double kettlebell snatches. And then first round, I did 12 chest to bar. Second round, 12 bar muscle ups. Third round, 12 ring muscle ups.

And it was still like the fast Helen stimulus, but it definitely challenged your grip. I don't know. i wouldn't be surprised to see something like that where it progresses over the rounds what weight did you use for the cut balls 35s i still have a hard time believing they go back to the pull-up bar after and or use a use a i have a hard time seeing them using a pull-up in any form on the bar after the pig chipper if the pig chipper is on a regular pull-up bar i could also see the pig chipper being on i could see the pig chipper being on a fat bar you think they'd do it for that many reps for chest to bar and toes to bar i mean what were

the bar muscle-up reps of that rogue workout weren't they like 15 every set or 13 or 20 dude it was a shit it was uh it was it was 20 for the men it was was 20 40 80 40 20 no yes not 80 80 ghd 40 cal twice and 2020 2020 20 and 20 and it was what it was 16 14 for females it wasn't 20 was it i don't i can't remember i think it was because all the women got capped and we were like why didn't they change the reps for women i thought we were talking about that yeah maybe maybe so or maybe the the calories were were changed but the muscle ups weren't um can we pull up that pig chipper let's talk about that workout and just like talk about let's just assume that it's we don't need to read into anything that it is what it is um the weight on the pig at the games is typically what is it like is it 500 285 does that sound right i think it's like 310 for the women i thought okay so we can assume it's

probably the same weight or do you think they'll load it heavier i think it's probably the same weight or do you think they'll load it heavier? I think it's probably the same weight at the 18 minute cap. Yeah. You're thinking, you know, five pick flips a minute. So there's four minutes of the workout, a minute for each set of chest to bar or six minutes for the workout for probably six minutes for the toes to bar. There's 12 minutes of the workout and then six minutes for the wall ball. And that's being pretty generous on a couple of those things i think it's being generous on the toast bar and the wall ball predominantly maybe the pigs a little bit um alia why do you think the discrepancy between double the amount of trunk flexion hanging versus 50 pulling because of helen say that again helen helen that you think they're not going to be able to pull up bar for no but I think they'll pull I don't think they'll be on a pull-up bar but I

think they'll pull I was just saying why do you think there's such a like discrepancy between the hundred toast of our reps and only the 50 chest of our rep because the numbers look really nice. 10, 25, 50, a hundred. It just works well. I don't know. Um, I like, I mean, I know, I know, I know cycle time wise, chest to bar is faster than toes to bar. So why do you, so why do you think that those chunks are so big? Like for the for the bar yeah well so the the reps on the chest of bar and toes to bar for that workout is what makes me think that if if one of the workouts between the pig chipper and helen is gonna have a different type of pull-up bar or like a a thick bar or a rotating bar or something like that i don't think it's going to be the pig chipper because i think the reps on this are too high for for athletes to be able to like

figure figure out how to use that and finish in 18 minutes i think the i think the chest to bar discrepancy is appropriate with the pig i think the chest-to-bar discrepancy is appropriate with the pig. I think the amount of pulling that you do with the pig and bending of the bicep, probably, especially at the end, but also at the beginning, 10 pig flips into the 25 chest-to-bar makes them challenging. Wall ball. Standard. There's a lot of ways to test pulling, and Boz has talked about there's not a lot of ways to test pulling and boss has talked about there's not a lot of

ways to test trunk flexion uh that's why he added in the v-up and so if he's just looking at trying to like equalize reps throughout the weekend adding in more toes to bar is an easy way to do that yeah so i don't know it looks like my strict toe to bar is out i mean i guess there's still hope for knee to elbow but i can't see knee to elbow if there's if there's a hundred toes so like the only thing that's left is that is weighted sit-ups right that's this is what's happening dude they're listening sit-ups and lsit they're listening to your show and they're listening to our show and we're just fucking handcuffing them every time we come out with stuff we're putting a pair of handcuffs on i'm like oh can't do that now you guys think the wall ball will just be 2014 to attend

yeah does that work out i don't think it's heavy for 100 reps i don't know although you know when when you went through the the timing for each of those movements, six minutes for 100 wall balls, like you said, is generous. So maybe they will go heavy. I would say it's five. It's probably closer to five. I think five flips a minute is, at least on a flip sled, that's pretty slow. A minute for the chest-to-bars is probably pretty appropriate. Two minutes for each set of

toes to bars, probably pretty appropriate. But you take all those things and you compound them. It's a lot of grip. I mean, you know, even when you, when you do a really big chunk of wall balls, most people will still say, you know, you're, you are flexing those same muscles going back to the toes to bar. It's going to be, It's definitely going to be grip, bicep and grip limiting. Yeah, I'm just saying I think it would – I wouldn't be shocked if it was a heavier wall ball just because I could see them announcing this workout with a tighter time cap with a 2014 wall ball.

And the fact that it's an 18- tighter time cap with a 2014 wall ball. And the fact that it's an 18 minute time cap and on day one when everybody's going to be fresh, I don't know. I think there's enough time to have it be a heavier wall ball and still have people finish under the cap. So 2021 was swim, paddle, and then muscle pig correct was that right i think i probably too so i'm like this feels a lot like that so i mean that that mass start off site like it feels like it's going to be long going into a workout like because that workout had ring muscle up bar muscle up what a

sled pull and a pig flip yeah ring it was sled pig or was it pig it was sled pig muscle up muscle up muscle up pig sled right i think i'm probably also a little off on the timing for the pig flips like five a minute is probably aggressive on the actual pig, like no big deal on the flip sled, but they're totally different. And the flip sled is a whole lot grip or the pig is a whole lot grippier than the flip sled. You don't have a bar you can hold on to like you do with the flip sled. So I think this all compounds pretty well to be a nasty upper body fatigue. And then the wall balls are just going to get the heart rate up big time. Yeah. I mean, I'll say I did pig flips for the first time like two weeks ago and that thing is heavy it took me probably a solid minute to do three pig on the red pig yeah nice

do we want to move into the last big piece of speculation on our thumbnail? Yeah. I don't even remember. Oh, fuck yeah, dude. This four-letter sports network. We couldn't hear you through the alien. Oh, that's okay. There's a lot you can find on the internet if you start looking around. This is perfect.

Go ahead. I have been doing some digging. Well, first we were looking at that offsite location. So I was looking at event calendars of different places, trying to see if anyone, because you're only not going to find any clues or hints on people tightly related to CrossFit because they kind of know what the deal is and why they shouldn't do that. But you can start looking at locations, event calendars, trying to find that. And I was just kind of Googling some random stuff. I had heard some whispers on just about there's more announcements to come. They've been consistently announcing stuff.

And so for this one, I put together a little short film last night of how it all came about. JR and Taylor haven't seen it yet. If you're naked, I'm going to be pissed. So we'll just go ahead and roll it, and it will tell the entire story. Well, that's everything that's going on, and I'm sure more details will be coming out. There's still some, and I'm just going to say, there's still other announcements that are pending

that I hope they get out there before we get to Madison. No, that can't be it. What could it be? Um... Um... No, that doesn't look like it either. I can't find anything. What am I missing? Wait a second. I know what I'm missing. Aha! Aha!

CrossFit produces original programming for ESPN from the games with more than nine hours of live broadcast on ESPN and ESPN2. CrossFit Games 2023. And that's the short though. So good. So yeah. Come on, man. Hilarious, bro.

So, yeah, I was honestly just Googling around, looking at a Lion Energy Center, looking at the event calendar, scrolled down, found that. So just a little bit of speculation, 10-foil action. What do you guys think? What would that mean? I mean, I'm pretty amped just with Sevan coming back to do behind the scenes. The games page posting that, his podcast with Chase yesterday, got me hyped, super excited. Momentum towards this year of the CrossFit Games,

it seems like it's kind of been a lull, like Dave being fired. Everything is kind of stagnant. So I'm pretty amped. What do you think it would mean for ESPN to get back involved if that happened? It would be on the Ocho probably, so not much. I think it would give momentum back in the right direction. I think a lot of people remember the CrossFit Games and the Glory Years for being synonymous with ESPN, not the CBS days.

So I think coming back to ESPN would be huge, more so for the spectators and for the overall morale if they found a way to produce content that like the average person who doesn't do crossfit can understand and can consume i think it's huge uh that's a big if yeah i. I've been interested in it. I follow Pat McAfee pretty closely. And ever since he, I mean,

he's had his rise in kind of this guerrilla media realm. He's kind of the king of guerrilla media in the sports world. Owns his own independent show. Huge following on YouTube as far as live viewership. And I was really interested whenever he told everyone that he was going to go to ESPN and the show is going to be on ESPN starting this fall, but they're also ESPN is letting them stay on YouTube for free, but it's also going to be on ESPN main channel.

So I think there's a shift in some ESPN culture around sports. So that kind of is why I've been interested because I think CrossFit is best covered in that kind of guerr I've been interested because I think CrossFit is best covered in that kind of guerrilla media independent we're our own thing uh and that way like that's why the behind the scenes is so great and so I think some combination of that um could be awesome and so that's why I've been like I've been on the ESPN trail of thought ever since that McAfee deal got announced because I just think there's so much opportunity for CrossFit in the guerrilla media realm. Like the polished broadcast is awesome,

but the Manning cast Pat McAfee doing alternate cast last year for college football playoffs, where they're literally staying on the sides of sidelines with microphones running around goofing off, having fun on like a main ESPN channel is super cool. So I think it'd be cool. We'll, we'll see if,

if, if this is going to happen, but it'd be awesome. I first saw CrossFit on ESPN in 2016. It was the Ranch Chipper workout. Yeah. And I think it's true. It's like ESPN is the worldwide leader in sports for a reason. Like their tagline is true. And so it helps. And I think if they can build on that relationship for the future, it could be huge. Compared to the past few deals have been what CBS sports on Sunday for the final day, and then some reruns during the year. If they could build off a relationship of having a consistent, big broadcast cast partner involved,

it's also a huge financial incentive. I think I would guess for the games team rather than, you know, footing the bill for the broadcast for it to go to their YouTube channel. Is ESPN woke? I don't know. Probably. Didn't CBS Sports only give them like two hours, too? Yeah, I think it was like the final day, two hours.

Last year, yeah, and the dumbest workouts to show, too. Yeah. Let's watch. What was it? Let's watch Back Nine with Everyone Can't Do. Four people finish. So bad. ESPN was the first place I saw CrossFit.

That's pretty cool. I think it's for a lot of people. Do you think they would show Masters adaptive teams? I don't. But if the goal is to showcase CrossFit to the general public that doesn't

know what CrossFit is, I feel like showing those divisions would make it more accessible. I think they'll, they'll try to do that with whatever programming they produce. I mean, I think that it seems like that that's a general direction in general. We kind of talked about that before, but with Dave trying to cross bridges of the programming across the company,

we're seeing benchmarks come out. So I think that's the general, like, how can we maintain this being the highest level athletes that are in the sport, but also make this connection back to the community. And you have to have people watch it. If it's going to stick, people have to watch. I think it's too challenging to have ESPN cover early week, like Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Masters and Adaptive,

and then go back and I just don't see anyone covering the games for a full week. So you think it's just going to be nine hours of individuals? I think it would probably look like something a couple hours a day okay for like three days or a couple i could see him doing i could see him doing like one team competition that was really easy to watch like one team event maybe with the worm i don't know i just i i think i was listening i don't know. I just, I think I was listening. I don't remember what podcast it was, but they were interviewing Don Fall and he was talking about like how to make CrossFit more accessible to the general public

when the CrossFit Games is our avenue to do that. And he was talking about, you know, creating content that relates more to the average gym goer instead of them seeing these insanely high level athletes going, oh my God, I could never. So I think, I don't know, I think showing adaptive athletes, I think showing masters athletes to the general public who might not know anything about CrossFit, I think that would be a much more relatable experience for them to get them into the doors of an affiliate, which at the end of the day is the main goal of CrossFit. I'm looking at the ESPN schedule right now.

Yeah, I agree. I think a lot of what they've um tried to do since the announcement of anything for the games is bring the community in from the aspect of oh we did helen last week they're gonna do helen that's cool oh you wanted us to go run a 5k and none of us really wanted to but hey they have to run a 5k too sometimes and i mean i think that just kind of bridging that is it seems like it's somewhat of the focus yeah well and even even beyond that not just connecting with the community that's already in crossfit but bringing in the outside community because their whole goal is you know however many members by 2030, I don't remember what the numbers are. But like the big conversation in this podcast, it might've been talking to elite fitness or I don't remember. But like his whole point of the conversation was we have to reach people who

aren't already in the community because everybody in the community has already bought in. Now it becomes getting new people through the doors who know nothing about it. Try to keep it simple. Make it easy to watch. Yeah. Cool. Anything else? I had one other soundbite added.

Do you guys know what this is from? Everyone can either believe it or they cannot believe it. Do you know what it's from? Is that the girl on the plane? Yeah, the girl on the plane. Everyone can either believe it or they cannot believe it. What happened on the plane? She goes, she's like, but there's a man.

There's someone in the back that you guys can't see or something like that. She's like, there's an invisible man in the back of the plane and she's leaving. It's awesome. Yeah, she was convinced that the guy sitting next to her wasn't real. Like a shapeshifter. I have one other graphic I made that I just want to show you. What do you guys think about this? Your mom.

I think that should say something other than crossfit and right there in the center hey that's the outside community we're trying to reach right your mom okay anything else no that's it i'm uh wonder if some of the details that we still want won't be released until like athlete briefing, like right before. Yeah. Because you're kind of talking about that on your show with Sevan, right? The boss talking about how even when he was coaching classes, right? Sometimes he didn't like to tell them even before they started the class what they were doing.

That kind of idea. Like, hey, you're going to work out, but you just don't know what it is. He loves to wait. Yeah. Until the last minute. How many more announcements do you think we'll get before the games uh like announcements like pig chipper helen pig chipper and a picture and a picture of a bike i don't that might be it that's a lot yeah that might be it i don't know that we're gonna get anything else before they start

do you guys think that the masters and team programming is going to tell us more about the individual programming? Or do you think they're going to be, besides the tests that everybody's doing, do you think they're going to be completely different? I know in the past, this same person hasn't always programmed all team age groups and individuals but as far as i know like boss has done all of it and i do think that from last year's workouts we can infer that he doesn't just think that because people are older or younger, that they should be doing different things. You just vary by degree, just like Greg always said, you know, we had masters on the pegboard just going above and below a line. And we had individuals on the pegboards and teams on pegboard. And we had

people on their hands and we had people upside down on their hands too, and all those other divisions. So I, I, I would always look at the age groups just to see if maybe some different implements were being used, but like age groups have used the biker two or three times and they've never used it once for individuals. So like, I think sometimes they're just things that get used in those divisions that are not going to ever happen. Do you think that's because they put the individuals on actual bikes? going to ever happen individually. Do you think that's because they put the individuals on actual bikes? Maybe, but think about how long the biker has been out and they just started bringing real biking back, not counting 2020 bike repeater, like two years ago. And that biker has been out for forever. It just never gets used. Yeah. So it's, it is kind of odd that like, like I hope

that the age groups flip the pig and I hope that the age groups, um, you know, get to do all that fun stuff because I think that's what the games are for, for everybody. It's to have them do outside the box things. Yeah. I'll, I'll be interested to see if the Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday programming differs drastically from the Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday programming, just because it's shifted before the individuals start now. Because last year when they had similar programming, it was happening at the same time. So I'm curious to know if he would use similar programming for the age groups

and just have that be like a spoiler for the individuals and teams, or if he would change it so that they're not getting any information ahead of time. Yeah. Yeah. It's always fun to look at other workouts and think, okay, well, if this equipment's being used here, does that mean that they'll use it also? Or are they just, you know, cause last year Boz even came out and said, there were a few apparatus that everybody was going to get to play with. And he was talking about that log that they did the up and overs with and the P bars. Everybody was on the P bars.

So it would be cool if there are a few things that are the same for everybody, that everybody gets to use. I wonder if that will still be the case. He just hasn't come out and said anything like that this year. Yeah. Sweet. Extra slop. Sorry, we're not professionals, so we don't always get to your money donations,

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And I think that's it. So thanks, everyone. Charlotte Classic, dude. Oh, yeah. Charlotte Classic. You can sign up starting tomorrow. Sign-ups will open tomorrow morning for the Charlotte Classic. It's going to be four divisions.

It's at CrossFit Charlotte in North Carolina. There's going to be an Elite RX community and a Masters 40-plus division. And so signups for that will open tomorrow. You can go to the.charlotte.classic on Instagram and check that out. Aliyah, you got anything to plug? Yeah, I'll be at the games next week.

I'm co-founder of a nonprofit called the Rise Foundation and we're doing an activation with Assault Fitness. Um, come by the Assault booth on Wednesday, August 2nd at 3 PM, 3 to 4 15. Um, you can sign up online for an opportunity to work out with the Assault equipment at that time. Um, or you can just come by meet our team. And for every dollar donated to the rise foundation during that activation, I will be doing a calorie on the assault bike. So one last thing. Did you see the the news about that intelligence official saying that the US is in possession of non-human biological material from a UFO?

Yes. That's pretty... I mean, what do you think? Let's just finish the show with a 1 to 10. 1 to 10, how likely is it that that's true and we have aliens? 10 being likely, likely, like we do. One being no, they are.

I mean, I would say now it's over five. Okay, so what number over five? One to ten. 5.1. Okay, Will. One. What? Fuck off.

Aaliyah. Eleven. Wow. I think it's like an eight for sure. Fuck off. Leah. Eleven. Wow. I think it's like an eight for sure. There's no way that we're the only living beings in the entire universe. Yes, we are. I agree.

You guys just need to be a little bit more prideful or arrogant or something. All right. Thanks, everyone, for joining. Awesome. I have everyone in the comments. Fuck you, Steve. You didn't give us joining. Awesome. Uh, everyone in the comments. Fuck you. You didn't give us any real money. Show's over.

So thanks everyone. Uh, we'll be hopefully doing some shows while we're in Madison. So yes, um, we'll be doing some shows from Madison. Uh, hopefully me, Taylor,

Jr, maybe Pedro and some others, maybe Hiller. We'll see. So, uh, Taylor and I get some others. Maybe Hiller. We'll see. So Taylor and I get there Sunday. JR, you get there Monday. Yeah. I think we're going live Monday night with Pedro, I thought.

Yeah, the plan, I think, hopefully, we'll go live. I won't be at the house probably until like 11 p.m. Dude. Oy. Okay. Well, look for us next week. If you're in Madison, tell us what's up and we'll be there and look forward to seeing you guys bye