The Sevan Podcast - CrossFit Games Update Show | Rogue MEN TOP 3 Predictions

Episode Date: November 10, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:54 There it is Only in theaters November 15th And just like that, Bam, we're live J.R. Hallihi Hello See any monkeys today? Monkeys? Monkeys.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Just my kids. Today, you're in one of the Carolinas, right? I already forgot. South, yep. Nope, that's Trump legal problems, live call-in, shit, what is this? A Democrats weekend. Shit. Where, where is my, oh, great. What? Oh, rogue overview.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Well, shit. Where's my notes? Damn, I thought I was going to be so clever. I saw a story just now this morning. Um, oh, rogue games. There it is. Come on, baby. Uh, that 40 monkeys got loose in your state. You didn't see that?
Starting point is 00:01:48 No. I wonder why this isn't popping up. Where? I'll pull it up on my phone. South Carolina. 40 monkeys. And it's not the first time that they've gotten out. They won't even work on here. I wonder what's going on.
Starting point is 00:02:10 All right, we'll pass on the monkey story. One last shot, one last shot, baby, one last shot. Rogue games, there it is. South Carolina. Oh, I need to apologize or at least make a correction. This morning I referred to Ben Massey as a chubby gay guy and later on afterwards I looked him up. He's the CEO of Rad. Yeah, he's not pudgy at all. I mean he wasn't in the pictures I saw. He's all yoked and buff and shit. Yeah, he's super duper fit. He looks super fit. So I want to at least correct that. the for medical research in South Carolina, but the nearby police chief said there's almost no danger to the public. It marks the fourth time since 2014 the primates have escaped
Starting point is 00:03:07 the facility, dozens escaped recently in 2018. They are not infected and diseased whatsoever. They are harmless and a little skittish. Yamasa police chief Gregory, you know that place? Yamas? Yamasi? Yamasi. Y-E-M-A-S-S-E-E. Yamasee. Does that close your house? Sounds Native American. Do you know the county? No.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Never heard of it. Anyway, that would be cool if a monkey made a guest appearance on the show today. The 2018 federal officials find Alpha Genesis $12,600 after a dozen of the primates escaped, as well for an incident that left a few others without water and other problems regarding how the monkeys were housed. I wonder who gets that $12,000 when you find someone for failure to take care of your monkeys good. Who gets that money? That's a good question.
Starting point is 00:04:03 It looks like it's just going to be me and JR today. to take care of your monkeys good. Who gets that money? That's a good question. It looks like it's just gonna be me and JR today. Well, that's easy. Yeah, buckle up, everybody. It's gonna be a show full of opinions and emotion and, you know, and in labia slapping. John's not here. So we can't do that. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Oh, oh. Wow. God, today's been crazy on social media, hasn't it? I've tried to stay away from it. I'm sure it has though. Oh dude, there's some fucking hilarious shit. Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness.
Starting point is 00:04:48 There's women out there who, if they didn't like the way their husband voted, they say they're not gonna give up the puss for four years until the next election. Are you in any precarious situation like that? So like only four more times than they probably already don't. Right. So like only four more times than they probably already don't. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Yes. JR with a joke. It's going to be a crazy week. Um, we're getting the schedule refined. I went over the barbell spin. Thank you to, uh, Brian spin with the barbell spin. He does have a different last name. It's crazy. Every once in a while, I try to ask someone what it is, but it's crazy. The article is called the 2024 rogue Invitational CrossFit Event Schedule.
Starting point is 00:05:36 All the shows, I do believe, correct me if I'm wrong, Jar, if I say anything wrong here, but what I do believe that what's happening, you'll go down here to the schedule and these are the Eastern Standard Times. And I do believe Spin and Tyler and John will be live during the show. So 730 AM Eastern time, they will be live to 938. So on one screen you could have the Rogue Invitational on the other screen, you could have these guys commentating. I also encourage you to buy the premium cast from Rogue. And then they'll buy the premium cast from Rogue and then
Starting point is 00:06:06 and then they'll do the same for event two and event three but soon as they go off the air at 938 Eastern Standard Time this show will come on. Hopefully gonna have a whole hodgepodge of guys. Maybe we'll even get Bill Leahy on the show. Sounds like Hiller's gonna be spending some time with Leahy, so I always send Hiller a link, so maybe we'll get both of them. Sounds like Chase, Bill Grundler. Of course, I'll invite Spin, John, Tyler on,
Starting point is 00:06:34 so it'll be fun. They are gonna be crazy early morning. So basically, if you're on the West Coast and you wanna watch this thing, you gotta start watching at 4.30 a.m., which is what I'm gonna do tomorrow and then the schedule goes on and we'll keep refining the schedule there are some rumblings that this schedule Sunday schedule is off by an hour but I'm sure Brian will excuse me fix it as it gets
Starting point is 00:07:00 updated before we start let's head over to the Rogue Invitational Instagram. Anything on, have you been paying close attention to that at all, JR today? No, I haven't seen anything from it today. I saw a few of the athletes stories, the venue looks insane, like what's incredible. Yeah, brand new venue over there in Scotland We got Velner Mitchell pooper and Laura Horvath, let's see what let's see what they have to say here
Starting point is 00:07:41 Who are your Canadian sports idols and who did you grow up watching in sports that inspired you? Canadian sports titles fight was a gymnast for a long time and earlier in my own. Okay, if you wanna watch that, you can see that. They got the Strongman competition. Oh, I think John and Spinn and Tyler are also gonna cover Strong Woman. They are, yep, that's what John said. And they know nothing about Strong Woman, right? Correct. So that should be absolutely a blast. That's what John said. And they know nothing about strong woman, right? Correct.
Starting point is 00:08:07 So that should be absolutely a blast. That's going to be pretty funny. That should be a good, you know, a comedy show. Also make sure you download the heat one app. That's Tyler's. Oh, look, there's John right there. Hey, how long have you been there? Wait, eight minutes, man. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Jesus. No, it was like 30 seconds. Make sure you download the heat one app. Jesus. It was like 30 seconds. Make sure you download the Heat One app. We're going to give you choices today of our picks of the top three boys. And then also, John, is the Strong Woman before? Is the Strong Woman before or after?
Starting point is 00:08:37 Yes, sir. No, it's before. We will be up at 3.55 AM sharp. Central time. That's your time. Yep. 3.55 Central. I got my alarm for 353. And we're gonna, we're gonna rock it. Wow, crazy. I'm gonna watch. Do you eat? Do you eat upon awakening? Like, will you, will you go to turn on
Starting point is 00:08:52 your computer and just be like, dude, I need like a need like a Bavita breakfast cookie. I see you eating those or like maybe an oatmeal cream pie, some goldfish. I'm actually, I'm actually a bit of an intermittent faster. I don't eat anything. I see you eating those or like maybe an oatmeal cream pie, some goldfish. I'm actually, I'm actually a bit of an intermittent faster. I don't eat anything until 11, 1130. Inch a lot of 11. Yeah, honestly, it's probably what it is. But I do I drink my pre workout every morning to wake up like wake up no matter what. Like I drink my pre-workout every morning to wake up, like wake up no matter what. Like I drink my pre-workout on the way to church.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Um, like I've never drunk coffee in my life. Um, so every, every morning it's just my pre-workout. I know you and Hitler were like the same. Does he do that as well? Which is what? And no explode two scoops, I think every morning since he was like 13 years old. Is that what you do? And I'll explode John. Oh, I'm on the jocco fuel right now. Okay 353 a.m. Central time that is correct
Starting point is 00:09:54 Yeah, it's gonna be a blast I'm gonna watch some big women lift some big things and it's gonna be it's gonna be fun and make some big sounds Okay, so this is your this is your team. You'll be watching tomorrow. Yep. Man, the first event is a deadlift ladder. The only event that they can actually lift more than me. So that'll should be fun. That's the first one we started off with. What's crazy is you're going to know all these ladies names and kind of have some like intimate, like insight into them. You're doing a three
Starting point is 00:10:25 day, what's it intensive? I actually have a comment saved from each one of these women. Oh about you? Yep. Oh wow fantastic. Wow and when you'll be pulling those up throughout the three days? I doubt it but just you know. What's the most memorable one off the top of your head um the most memorable one was from uh oberst she she's not in here but she was there last year it was just very detailed and very long and you know played on my looks a little bit but Dude, you got to read those. Let me test you on some basic questions about strong. What is the age range from youngest to oldest?
Starting point is 00:11:18 Not who, which one, but what's the age range of these ladies? 24 to 39. Wow. That guarantees you a C just knowing that. Okay. I'm gonna give you three questions. Number two is that correct? Oh, fuck. I don't know. You made it sound like you did some research. Yeah. Okay. Sorry. You're back down to an F. Um, hold on. What if I'm right though? Like, like, I mean, I would give you a two year, I would give you two year plus or minus on either end too. I bet it's around that I would let
Starting point is 00:11:55 you go 2020 anywhere between, you know, 22 and 41. Okay. Um, uh, is last year's champ in the mix? Yes. Wow. And for bonus points to make up for that last question, do you know who it is? I know Angelica Yardin is up there. Um, it's, it's either, it might be Rebecca Roberts, Lucy or Angelina Angelica Yardin, one of those three. Hey John, that's probably, I mean it could be like Angelica or it could be just Angelica. How are you saying her first name? Angelica? Angelica, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:40 It's probably not that. It's probably not that listen listen listen, this is This is top-shelf material that we're gonna get on the spin cast Hopefully someone will correct you right away. So you just don't put your names. No, I'm gonna I'm gonna keep saying it like that Okay now here we go For the question you can you can answer tell me who the lightest woman is and how much she weighs or who the heaviest? Women woman is or if you can be both that you'll get a bonus point. All right, I got okay I'm gonna go Sam Bellevaux is the lightest
Starting point is 00:13:21 at a Little bitty girl. To 10. Wow, to 10, that's the smallest strong woman. Yeah, she might be lighter than that. One eighty five. OK, twenty five to two ten. And how about the heaviest?
Starting point is 00:13:41 Who are the heaviest? I'm a rock with Angelika. And you think they had a 400 pounder? Nah, 330. 330. Well, these will be all. We'll find out as you periodically pop into the 7-on-pre and post shows.
Starting point is 00:14:03 You can tell us some of the stats you fit. You've learned. We will. I'm going to I I'm gonna put the hard look on it It's gonna be good Go ahead. Jer. I'm gonna be the leading analyst and strong women by the end of this my end of this I've no doubts We're gonna say something Jer. No, I'm good. All right. Um, so if you're awake at 353 a.m You're gonna you know, what's cool about that is you're gonna get a lot of foreign listeners because Spins not usually on at that hour so it's gonna populate in a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:14:35 So here's Chris Spieler, him and Josh Bridges programmed the event. Spieler was in the 2007, 2008, 2009. He's in the original, I don't know, first 10 games or whatever. Here we go. One, in one word, it would be the grind. Event number two, the only word I can think of for this one is pressure. Event number three, one of my favorites, gut check. Event number four, got to have one have one classic event number five. I know it's gonna happen.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Should happen. Only thing I can think of describe it unbroken. Event number six. It's gotta be this way. Speed event number seven. You guys know it's gonna be here. Grip event number eight. Is that the unknown event, event six or seven?
Starting point is 00:15:25 No, event six is, what did you say, speed? Yeah, they haven't denounced it yet, huh? No, so I mean, it's probably what we think it is. A ladder, speed ladder? Yeah, some kind of that, yeah. An increasing weight. Maybe they bring the log back, maybe it's stones, maybe it's, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Can't be one word, but phrase boulders for shoulders. Event number nine, winner. Because I have a feeling it's going to be tight and whoever's winning this is likely to win the event. So that's not really a clue for nine. Hmm, what did he say again? Can we- Weiner.
Starting point is 00:16:03 He just said winner. That's it. Yeah. He basically said, whoever wins this event is probably gonna win the competition. That makes me think it's not- No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:16:13 That's not what he said. He said it's gonna be close going into it. So he thinks it's gonna decide the winner. Oh, is that what he, okay. Gotcha. Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah, I thought he said what JR just said.
Starting point is 00:16:24 I thought he was saying that like, it would be the best parallel to who does well in the competition. Yeah. Winner of that. Yesterday you were right when we had that problem. Event number one. In one word, it would be the grind. Event number two, the only word I can think of for this one is pressure. Event number three, one of my favorites, gut check. Event number four, gotta have one, classic. Event number five, I know it's gonna happen, should happen, only thing I can think of describe it, unbroken. Event number six, it's gotta be this way, speed.
Starting point is 00:17:05 Event number seven, you guys know it's gonna be here, grip. Event number eight, can't be one word, but phrase boulders for shoulders. Event number nine, winner. Because I have a feeling it's gonna be tight and whoever's winning this is likely to win the event. It's gonna be tight. Whoever wins this is to win the event. It's gonna be tight. Whoever wins this is gonna win the event.
Starting point is 00:17:27 I think that means more towards Saban. So you're right. Okay. One in one. Good job, Saban. Thank you. That's very uncommon, I feel like on the show. Let's see what this is.
Starting point is 00:17:37 All right. All right. A little hype for the venue. Okay. You guys ready? Let's do it. First off, you know what we got to do? We're doing tears again. We'll do tears again.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Very popular segment. Whew. Lots of energy in that one Okay, uh Mitchell oh no, uh leg. Oh look they got led the legends men up here too Dan bailey tommy hackenberg ben smith chris bieler mico salo matt chan josh ever. Oh the legends have thinned out a little bit I thought they're missing a couple names. No Oh, the legends have thinned out a little bit. I thought they're missing a couple of names. No. A Froning's on a bike ride or something or a hunt or something.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Okay. How many tiers do we need for the boys? Okay. Um, you just want to go like tier one and then we'll figure out how many tiers. Okay. Yeah, we can move them. We can move them around a little bit. Uh, uh,
Starting point is 00:18:41 Any tiers? Okay. Yeah, we can move them around a little bit. Tier one. I'm going to say tier one is going to be Jeff, Ricky, Dallen, Justin, Pat, Brent, Jason. Going off of your same can podium. Can podium, correct. Adler, Ricky, Dallin, Justin, Pat, Jason. I know it's a lot bigger than the women, but I think any one of these men can podium.
Starting point is 00:19:21 At any competition. No Brent Fikowski? He did say Brent. I said Brent. Oh, okay. You really think no James Sprague? No James Sprague. You really think Jason belongs up there?
Starting point is 00:19:36 I think he's the last man there. Okay. Any issues, JR? No, I'm going to defer to John on this segment. I want to I want to put it like this Harris No, Justin Maderas, I said Justin. He said Justin. Okay, okay. I Put it like I put it like this like Jason was fourth place had just as good a shot as anybody to podium at the games tied with Pat Bellner and The games was you know quote the cardio, the most cardio we've ever seen
Starting point is 00:20:06 at the games, very heavily biased, rogue, a bit in the opposite direction. And Jason in my eyes could still podium at this competition. So if strength bias competition, he could podium in a cardio bias competition, he could podium. Then I think any competition deserves to be on the list. Now, Wadapalooza, no shot. JR knows why, but that is why he's the bottom person
Starting point is 00:20:33 in that tier, but I still think he belongs in the tier. Why not Wadapalooza? He's just going off of his spotting abilities in the water. Sure. In the open water. Yeah, yeah, you're good. Yeah. Okay. Tier two. Tier two. This these would be people that I think can be top 10. And I would say Noah, Sam Kwant, Yonakowski, Jay Crouch. I would put Chandler as the last person in that list. You don't got BKG.
Starting point is 00:21:14 No. I would put James there. Yeah, and yeah, James. Yeah, I put James there. Thank you, Jay. I missed him. I'd put James there as well. You don't have the Pancik.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Nope. You don't think Pancik, you don't think Saxon's a top 10 there? No. I don't think Saxon's a top 15. You think Saxon's gonna be, you think Yona's gonna be Saxon I Think they're gonna be really close to each other. But yeah, I think Yona's gonna be in Texas. I
Starting point is 00:21:53 Was watching a mayhem video today and Saxon was saying he just found out like from whenever the video was filmed He just found out like a week and a half ago That he got the invite to rogue and that that was only like three weeks out from travel. So he had just been like working out his affiliate doing whatever he wanted working out with the class and then he did then he found out that he got an invite. So I mean he's been just trying to get as ready as he can be. Uh didn't AppleLionan win the first two events at the semi-final first and first? Um he won the last events at the semi-final first and first He won the last of it. No, it's gonna be final. Who am I thinking who won the first two event oldest won the first two Oh oldest my oldest in my good pool chair. Okay
Starting point is 00:22:38 All right tier three Tier three. Tier three. These would be, deserves to be there, or has earned their right to be there. But you know, I don't expect much of them. And I would say that's Guy, Cornway, Saxon, and Heinrich. Guy is probably at the top of that list because it just really depends on the events for him
Starting point is 00:23:08 I think I predicted Gee to be tenth place at this competition but it's because I think he has a shot to be top three and three events and That that's the only reason why crossfit games I don't I think he's lower than everybody that I said in this tier Do you think as a CrossFitter, Guy is better than Saxon? No. No. Mr. Howell?
Starting point is 00:23:39 No, I just think to John's point, when you have the ability to win events, it matters more on a leaderboard Okay, so gee Cornwalli Saxon Henrik and then in the fourth tier Jorge Norgos Is that everyone I? Think so All right, BKG would be in tier three.
Starting point is 00:24:05 We didn't say him. And BKG, I have no problem if you want to put him in tier two. I just think he's on his way out. I think he's, I just think he's on the decline. You think he's going to the games next year to get number 11? I think if he wants to, he can. A lot of these guys, when you reach a certain certain if you're top 10 in the world, like legitimately top 10 fittest guy, you I think you can make the games as long as you want.
Starting point is 00:24:31 If freaking Cole Sager can make the games as long as he has, I think however long you want to do it, you can do it. And some of those. Sorry, john, go ahead. I thought you go you made me lose. I lost. I thought you're good. Go ahead From what we've heard about their Qualifying people directly from the open at least to a semi-final and then from unlike maybe from an online semi-final to the games What's crazy is that if you go back to that list?
Starting point is 00:25:00 Like there's a handful of people that if they're taking 20 people to the games from online semifinals like they're making it Yana Like people like that are do their magda I mean, they're just people online that are so good Noah Noah could Noah is amazing at online competition Like they're there are guys like that that can just in their own gym with their own music around their own people They can just they can beat everybody. So that'll be that'll be really interesting if there are in person ways to make it to the CrossFit Games and then online ways how many of those top tier guys can even get in an online competition against some of those other ones. Is that you guys saw that clip where Froning's like hey if the rumblings I'm hearing about
Starting point is 00:25:43 the games are true it's bye bye to the games. Is he referencing the fact that if you can only get there online that the integrity of the Competition has been compromised Is that what he's referencing I Have to imagine he is referencing the fact that we are going to send people to the cross-strait games without competing in person at all We are going to send people to the cross-strait games without competing in person at all Maybe not that that is the only way to get there But that if that's like 50% of the way to get there that that's just not the best decision And if I were to tell you that's not a big deal who cares yours is like no actually it does matter And you would point to people like Noah. I
Starting point is 00:26:21 Know no Noah Noah's fine, but I would point to people like tutor Like there there are people who are there and are somebody like left errors theophonitis You remember him step on you loved him. You love that that little Greek rotted up guy. You know that guy no I remember 2019 He made it cuz from Greece and you just would not stop talking about his Instagram because he looked crazy on Instagram and Every online thing he ever did he was first or second. He beat BKG. He'd beat Lazard Dukic he'd beat all these guys that are like actually good and then you get him in real competition and He's nothing and like you get people like that and I think like you you know, the nose of the world, they're fine. The
Starting point is 00:27:06 only coasties of the world, they're fine. They've shown at the games that they are the fittest people in the world. The left terraces is who I have a problem with. Because they're trash. And when you can send people like that to the games, and then they're going to get gonna get 38th place for whatever reason either they're on drugs and they can't do them anymore or They can't compete or they've cheated in their wall balls 14 instead of 20 pounds because you have no way of you have no way of knowing how if that's true or not, you know what I mean and Those people will make it What there's gonna be like just four or five of them and it's gonna be really obvious when you're in person.
Starting point is 00:27:47 You think they're having a problem with those people. You think there's that kind of cheating going on? 100%. Yeah. I think it's very obvious when it gets in person. No. No cheating. No.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Americans don't cheat. Individual event won 10 rounds, sandbag carry, 400 meter run. Oh, we have a picture. We got a picture of the sandbags, right? Oh yeah. Are they shaped like Scotland? I heard it's like every bag you could think of. I'm so excited to show you guys this I
Starting point is 00:28:28 I had a Unnamed source send this Theresa said I put you down did I put you down? I didn't think I put you down I Didn't hear it if you did, but people would tell me that Brian put me down all the time. I didn't hear that either So there's a drag bag at the front That's a that's one of the drag bags that they use last year at the very end of that ruck this yeah So are you suggesting when you call it a drag bag? Are you suggesting that that thing is so heavy that it's gonna have to be drug now. They make you that's a handle
Starting point is 00:29:04 Yeah, I think it's and I think that's probably gonna be one of the lighter ones, not the heavier ones. I don't know, we'll see. So JR, you said you had to carry bags. If you look there, there are 10 there, I believe. Or four rounds, or six rounds. You have to carry a bag every round. You only have to wear your ruck for four of the rounds.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Okay, okay, so one, two, three, four five six seven eight Is this a bag you think yeah that is? That looks like a duffel bag. That looks like someone's gear bag Yeah, I think there's a I think there's a handle on each like in guys through though. Yeah. Yeah, okay Hey, what if there is a bag that's so heavy you can't carry it. That would be an interesting Yeah Hey, what if there is a bag that's so heavy you can't carry it that would be an interesting Yeah Or you can you can move any of them however you want so you can You can drag any of them if you want like the Jerry bags. I think have to be carried individually
Starting point is 00:29:58 So if you look at the the Jerry bags, there's a who's to fell in between them Okay, people are gonna have to single side single arm farmer carry that or they're gonna have to do like a duck walk, like, like they do in strongman or they're gonna have to, I guess you could put it on your shoulder. Yeah, maybe put it up on your shoulder and carry it. Yeah, I wish I wish they had the maybe not Randy, but like you can name like William, like just a dummy like Randy, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:30:29 J.R. like that would be a good one because you know, people struggle with that and like the, you know, Cole Sager, I think like move faster than everybody like you would get an advantage on that element that implement and I like that. I wish they had I wish they had something like that Yeah, do you guys know what athlete that is right there? No clue that is Taylor how? All right, I Don't know. I would love to I would love to see the someone will tell us in the chat I would love to see the briefing. I would love to see the someone will tell us in the chat. I would love to see the briefing I would love to hear the briefing for this
Starting point is 00:31:05 I guess the commentators will let us know that it'd be very interesting to see what rules there are Can you throw it drag it put it on your shoulder? Like I mean for all we know what those Jerry bags Jerry can bags. They're gonna make you carry it by the side. Who knows? And how far it is like I want to know how far each carry is Yeah, is it from one side of that huge field all the way to the other is it just I hope it's not in that section Yeah All right, the workout guys. It's right here Individual event one pull out your heat one app now the quicksand ten rounds sandbag carry
Starting point is 00:31:43 We don't know the distance and then a 400 meter run ten rounds Top three Jeff Ricky Jason JR is your big same Broken clock, I guess I am. Did you see my last place picks too? Who do you got, John? I couldn't even read your screen. Oh, okay. I have Jeff, Ricky, and Jason as well. In that order? Yeah. No, he hit it on there. Let me take a look here. I would love it.
Starting point is 00:32:29 I would love it if James won though, because you know. I mean, I would pick him for top five easily on this. I think he'll be good. I just think he's gonna be hard. It's hard to beat those guys, but it would make my day if James won that event because the rest of the competition is not going to go very well for him. But the, as the fittest man in the world, as the fittest man in the world, like if you won that first event, man, it would just, it would be so sweet just to tell the naysayers to
Starting point is 00:33:01 F off just for, you know, that event. Just to tell John Young to F off. No stop. I love James. You don't think a 10 rounds is going to be a little much for Mr. Hopper? Dude, Hopper's going to go great in this. I think the harder, the better for him. One of weighted runs and mindless grunt work like this. It doesn't get a whole lot better for him. Dude, I did that high rocks with Hopper and he was very impressive.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Does Jay Crouch beat Dallin? No. Does Justin beat Dallin? I think they'll be together. I'd probably pick Dallin, I'd probably pick Dallin. I'd probably pick Dallin, but I only just gonna be far off that. And they're doing two heats for this, right John?
Starting point is 00:33:50 They're doing two heats for this. Oh, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I imagine they are and they're laid out here by rank. So like we can count 10 names and that's who will be in the second heat. So it looks like they'll be the same heat. Can Y heat. Can Yona run? Yeah but with Wade it's a bit different. Anytime you throw on
Starting point is 00:34:12 rucks and stuff he just hasn't been in the mix. He can but I think the weight hurts him more than others. And who takes last out of Chandler and gee Challenges gonna be fine. Dude Joe's gonna do fine on this workout. Yeah, Chandler should do well You're giving him that you're giving him that special Bonus because he's in the military you think he wakes up when he sleeps with a ruck on No, I does have a lot of experience rocking but I think every single time there's been a weighted run or sandbags in the thing, Chandler's been a top five person. Who do you think takes last? I think I had Caravis taking last. Behind Guy and Jorge? Yeah. All right. Event number two,
Starting point is 00:35:06 Alright, event number two. That's gonna be a fun one to watch. That's exciting. It will be. I'm really excited to watch number two. I was talking about number one, but yeah number two will be great too. Where is number two? Individual event two, the North Sea Tiger, Heat 1 app, make your picks now. Echo bike, ring muscle ups, eight squat snatch, six shuttle sprints. All right, I'm going to go first this time because JR went first last time. By the way, Sevan, you did not say your top three. Oh, sorry, Ricky, Jason, Adler. Same as you guys, different order. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:45 I don't hate it. My event two is Guy and first, Brent Fikowski, and then Dallin Pepper. Mm. Mm. Mm. And I have Guy, Dal, and Justin. I like Justin too. You could argue that in this field, Jason's pretty good, but you could argue that in this field,
Starting point is 00:36:26 those are also the three best shoulder positioning athletes in the field. The movements were the snatch, the muscle up, and the shuttle sprint, and the skier? Echo. Echo? I look at the workout for the guys, and I just think about the snatching under fatigue just being really really
Starting point is 00:36:48 He's probably got better shoulders. Yeah, his early. He's really good, too. Okay, I got Noah Jason all right down Noah Jason down. Yep. I Think I could see Noah failing a snatch here. I'm most concerned about him on the shuttle sprints. I'm least concerned on about the shuttle sprints. Okay, individual event three, the last event for tomorrow. Hold on, do you think the shuttle sprints are irrelevant?
Starting point is 00:37:30 I just think it's going to be really hard to pass somebody if they're ahead of you. By half a shuttle sprint. Yeah, I'm not sure that the squat snatch with that load is really going to juice the legs. Like if it was 16 at 135 or if like it was just heavier overhead squat like I don't I don't know that many people are going to be able to close like if you start behind someone on the shuttle I don't see you passing. I don't I don't either. I don't but I don't know I mean maybe maybe they are 200 feet you know down and 200 feet
Starting point is 00:38:03 back like who knows. Even then you just kind of get stuck in your Wherever you are, you know with that. I hope some people get like I hope I hope someone like Jason who's just really fast Like in a sprint or Ricky. I hope they just I hope they hawk down a couple guys I think the answer for you John is is There's there's not a lot of guys who can take advantage of it And so jr just pointed out the two guys who could For the for most guys, it's probably is irrelevant but not for ricky and jason We'll see
Starting point is 00:38:35 Maybe maybe even uh adler how fat is saxon fast Saxon is fast like his brother Yeah, saxon's fast nose a pretty good sprinter. No, it's fast. Hey in Saxon can snatch You can John's just thinking he's gonna get off the echo bike five cows behind everybody. I Know that he'll get off the echo bike five cows behind everybody Individual event three eight six four two wall walks compa wall walk complex and then back squat at 375 It ends up being 16
Starting point is 00:39:09 Handstand push-ups then 12 then 8 then 4 I think This one is gonna be a complete shit show for some people. I Think this one's harder to pick than you think. This might be my favorite event. And not because it would be my best event. Honestly, the wall walks make it not great, like a great event for me. But I just think it's so... I agree with Saban.
Starting point is 00:39:44 I just think a lot of people are gonna get effed up in a way that they might not have saw. What happened to the complex R? What happened? This is kind of like a specialist workout really. I mean, it is. Like especially the complex for that many reps, like there are some people you just know,
Starting point is 00:40:02 it doesn't matter how much they pace it doesn't matter how well they squat They just are not gonna be able to go through the complexes as fast And I think I think the wall walk complex is much more important than the back squat and the back squat like screams at You right and people see that but I think it's the wall walk complex is far more important. I agree Shall I go first? Yeah, sure Noah I think the wall-wall complex is far more important. I agree. Shall I go first? Yeah, sure. Noah, wow, Jay,
Starting point is 00:40:34 and Jeff Adler. Before you guys go, what happens if you drop the bar? You have to de-fucking weight it, clean it, get it back up on the rack. I think that's what they've done the last two years is that you have to take weight off and then clean it and put it back up. Goodnight Heidi. Okay I'll go next. In my third place, I'm taking a little bit of a risk. I don't believe in it at all, but that's who I'm rocking with. I think who I picked for last place is more likely to come through than who I picked for third, but this is what I'm rocking with.
Starting point is 00:41:17 So number one, I picked Jeff. Number two, I picked Justin. Number three, I went with Guy. I just don't know if it's too much fitness. For Guy? Yeah. JR. So I have a mixture of you guys. I have Noah, Sam and Guy.
Starting point is 00:41:38 So I think this could be an event that Sam could crush for sure. He's- Quan? Yeah, no, no, no, Quan Wei. He's a good squatter and he's really good at pressing. I mean, I think he'll do really well on this. And I have Guy Third also.
Starting point is 00:41:54 And I think this is a kind of workout that Noah will come out really, really hot on and like he normally does, but I think no one will be able to catch him. Like I could definitely see him doing that. Why not Jay Crouch crazy strong? Strength to weight ratio small guys shouldn't have any problems crushing the handstand the wall walk. Yeah, I could see him doing well, too He's not a bad day. That's the hard thing about this field in these events Especially the ones like this that are probably gonna be pretty tight You can pick a couple handfuls of guys and not have a bad pick.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Saxon? Yonakowski? I don't believe in those two people. So every time you ask those two people, I straight up just don't believe in them. Right. Right. You're not going to be shocked if you want to finish his top three, but you just can't you just can't put your there's so many inconsistencies You just can't put your money there. I'm never gonna predict him to do well The games is different Let me ask you what about Justin is Justin falling into the into that? No, I've got I picked Justin be second place in the competition
Starting point is 00:43:01 And and he won his semi-final last year Justin did? Yeah, right, didn't he? Correct. Okay. So he's shown that he's capable of being still a winner. Yeah, and I mean, Justin's calling card is his execution. And I know it's wavered,
Starting point is 00:43:22 it's not as perfect record as it used to be, but I still think he executes workouts to his fullest ability better than just about everybody else. Dallin's also very, very good. And I think a lot of these workouts are how good do you execute? And I just think he's better at that than everybody else. And a lot of these workouts are stuff that he is good at And if it's stuff he's good at
Starting point is 00:43:49 with the execution I Just think that he's gonna do really really really well bro And he's always done really good at rogue the only times he did rogue he won both times 2022 2023 And it's because he of what I said what I just said 23 and it's because he of what I said what I just said And out of Brent Ricky and Pat and anyone else you want to throw in there Is this a damage control workout and by that? I mean they have to make sure that they don't do a squat that they fail That they don't over commit on the handstand push-ups that they know they can't win it
Starting point is 00:44:23 But they could lose the competition because of it Is that Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't think those those three guys I don't know if they can push this workout well, like they they need to be smart about it and And what more about the handstand the wall walk handstand push-up than anything? I think they're all gonna be fine in the squats No, they're not Jeff and anything. I think they're all going to be fine on the squats. No, they're not Jeff Adler, but I think they're all going to be fine on the squats. But all three of those guys have failed in a miraculous way.
Starting point is 00:44:55 And you just, you just, you know, you can't do that. So they are going to be smart about it. If you do these first eight back squats unbroken, do you know then that you can do the rest of them unbroken because it's a descending ladder? For the most part. JR? Yeah, for sure. I was just going to say the thing that people need to take into consideration is the break that they're gonna get between the first 16 wall facing handstand pushups and eight wall walks and then the next six and 12 is not gonna be a long time because they're gonna go to the bar and they're gonna rack and they're gonna squat eight times regardless if they
Starting point is 00:45:43 take a big breath at the top or not, they're gonna be right back on the wall before you know it. So that, in 14 of the 20 wall walks, and what, 28 of the 40 handstand pushups are right there in the beginning of the workout. So the opportunity to blow up
Starting point is 00:46:03 is right there waiting for you. So what you're saying is, is if you have to take a break on those back squats, you shouldn't feel bad because that's just, well, especially after your first set of wall walks, you shouldn't feel bad because that's just time to give your shoulders time to recover. It's more just like, what are you hurrying up for
Starting point is 00:46:20 to go back over the wall and lay there after the first two complexes? Like that's one of those things. This is a, go ahead. J.R. Sorry. No, no, you're good. I, I, I, I, I, I know people look at event two as, as high stakes pressure execution. Event three is two event three is two. You, you have to be very, very aware of how quick is too quick as far as going up into your next wall walk. Cause you don't want to do a wall walk and not get the two reps. You don't never want to do a wall walk and get one and then fail.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Because then you've wasted a handstand push up, you've wasted a wall walk, and you failed a rep. So now you're pretty much done. I'll put it like this, Sevan. I'm pretty good at handstand push ups. And I did eight wall walks with two handstand push ups and I did eight wall walks with two handstand push ups I did eight of these complexes at the gym and then and had three side like I was going to do the event because I thought it'd be good at the event and straight up said I don't want to do the rest of the event and then I just stopped and did something else. Wow, wow. Because it was a lot more taxing than I thought it was going to be. I didn't think it was gonna be very, very bad at all.
Starting point is 00:47:27 Like, you know, it would be fatiguing, but it's stuff I'm good at. I thought I could just go nice and slow and not fail. You know what I mean? And be somewhat quick. Did you do those for 16 on Rogan? No, I did like four and then sat up and shook around a little bit.
Starting point is 00:47:42 And then I did four. And then I was like, I'm done done I'm gonna go do something else. Wow okay all right good to know good good little perspective. Okay workout number four this is day two open up that heat one app thousand meter, 30 thrusters at 135, 30 log muscle ups, 30 thrusters at 135, thousand meter row. Oh boy. I think JR is first in this one. What does possible sound like for your business?
Starting point is 00:48:23 It's the ability to reach further with access to over 1400 lounges worldwide. Redefine possible with Business Platinum. That's the powerful backing of American Express. Terms and conditions apply. Visit amex.ca slash business platinum. So I like, um, take your time, JR, no rush. I like Pat, Ricky, Justin. I like Pat on this one. I think he kind of lays, I think day one isn't going to be amazing for him, but he's gonna, he's gonna do well on a few on day two and three.
Starting point is 00:48:58 It's interesting. I have your same people, but a different order. I have Ricky and then Pat and then Justin And I think they're all kind of gonna be together and I think Ricky's gonna finish three log muscle ups ahead of them and then Just have you know enough of a lead It just doesn't matter and it'll be a race on the road between Pat and Justin and Pat will outrode And it'll be a race on the road between Pat and Justin and Pat will out row You got seven Dallin
Starting point is 00:49:38 Jason Solid James that's sarcasm. All Alright. Is that sarcasm? Though they might be the three worst people at this workout. Hahahaha They're gonna do fantastic on the They're gonna do fantastic on the Row. All three of them. All three of them. Yeah, they're all three kill that row.
Starting point is 00:49:58 They are going to do Fantastic on the thrusters. I know you think it's a Large range of motion for them. But you also pick Pat and Pat's got gorilla arms. You're right. You're right so far you're right and You think that Pat's gonna do good on this on the bar muscle ups because you're stuck in 2012 where Pat's a good gymnast Well, really he's just got a couple good gymnastics tricks up his sleeve Okay, you're talking about Pat, tell
Starting point is 00:50:25 me about Jason and Dallin and James. They they're gonna want it more than than these other guys Ricky's Ricky's Ricky's gonna want it Justin's gonna you think Justin's execution is gonna be good but I think it's gonna fuck up his pacing he's gonna go too slow. Okay. Do you want to know where Jason finished in the log muscle-up workout last year and things have changed? Oh, you're right. You know, I heard he's working. He's you know Getting tips from a couple people. So You think I should switch Jason and James you think I should put James? Oh, no, I haven't gotten started on James And
Starting point is 00:51:02 Listen Jason might be a lot better the log muscle-ups than he was I do not put that past him at all But if you're that bad at it Unless you're Matt Fraser I just don't see him being at the level that Ricky and Pat are at it But go ahead and guess what he got last year at the log muscle workout. Oh I don't know. He was 19th out of 20 and I'm pretty sure last place was hurt. So the last place person What what was the what was it in conjunction with what movement? Back squats or no. No, it was law skiing and GHD go let's okay
Starting point is 00:51:38 But let's go the year previous right because there was a lot of fear previous First year first year was log ski, GHD ski log. Doesn't matter. He finished the same spot. So back squat, something he's pretty good at. He's back squatted 500. Like he's pretty strong. 19th place out of 20. Let's go the year previous. It's skiing and GHD is not the bestDs, is the best at skiing. What did he finish in the long muscle up workout? 19th out of 20 place. Hopper has routinely been the worst one.
Starting point is 00:52:14 At the log muscle ups. Period. Now. It kind of reminds me of Fraser taking last one year in an event and coming back and winning it. What did Fraser get last then? And he's HWPO wasn't in the sprint event or something? Yeah but there's stuff that went into that. What did he get in the sprint event after the year that he did good in the sprint event? Like 20th place. Now I
Starting point is 00:52:39 don't put it past Hopper to be better. I really don't. I honestly expect him to be better. I just don't expect him to be with the best people. I do. JR, is that fair of me to say or no? It sounded very fair. You made a tremendous argument. It's reasonable. I don't know about the F word, but it's reasonable. All right. Dallin Pepper, he's only seen it once. Again, I think he might be much improved, but it's hard to pick him with the best people. Last year he was 14th or 15th or something in the bottom tier of the log muscle-up workout. Whose other guy you said?
Starting point is 00:53:13 James Sprague? Yes. You know, I have no idea what James Sprague, but if Hopper and Down were both bad at it, they're bigger guys, I just don't think James is going to be great at it. So I'm just going to go out on a limb. Do you think James's feet will hit the ground? I don't know if it's standardized or not. I don't know. It was one height in the past, but I think it's tall enough for everyone to get up there. JR, do you have a log at crash? Yeah. I rest my case. But it was installed like a day
Starting point is 00:53:48 before Jason left. So it's not like he's not doing it all year. No, I like Pat. I like that. That's good, dude. That's good, dude. I saw I saw Pat crying in a video after Trump won. He's a good dude. In joy or in a not joy? Did you uh Trudeau called and congratulated Trump. I thought that was pretty funny. All right individual event five look at it just lined up right there for us. All right, individual event five. Look at it, just lined up right there for us. Three rope climbs, burpee with a hundred pound dumbbell, 21 of those.
Starting point is 00:54:31 Three more rope climbs and then 21 burpees with a hundred pound seer bell. It's a dumbbell with like a monster grip on it. And then three more rope climbs. Some people call it the devil's press. I call it the Jesus swing. Why? I just like it better.
Starting point is 00:54:51 If you uh, not blasphemy, if you're um, lock box was 666, but you can make it 777, would you? Yes. There you go. Let's go to the workout. Five is for man, six is for Satan, seven is for Sevan. Okay, here we go. Bunch of snatches with a burpee in it and some rope climbs.
Starting point is 00:55:26 You get to use your legs. As far as we know, yeah. I think it's to a 20 foot though. It's to the top of Zeus. I'm interested to see, JR, we might think differently on this one. So I'm going first. I can going first. I can go first. You want to go ahead and name some people?
Starting point is 00:55:55 Yeah, I have two of my guys lined up already. I got Chandler and Jason. God, I'm going to go with Gee too. I'm going to go with Jason. God, I'm going to go with Guy too. I'm going to go with Jason. Where's my name? Over here. I'm going to go with Jason, Guy, and then Chandler. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:17 All right. You want me to go next? Yes. I got Brent and then Pat and then Justin. I really don't want you to feel bad after this one, John. They're not bad choices. Thank you, Seva. You're welcome. And I got Pat, Brent, Jason. You're welcome. And I got Pat Brent Jason.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Okay, cool. Who's the best rope climber in the group? Probably Pat, but Brent's right there. The 20 foot, I think helps Brent. If he can get up there in one less pool, it would benefit him, but I don't know if that balance is out. No, Guy and Jason are the best rope climbers. I think paddle I think paddle burpee faster than Brent That's kind of where I'm that's kind of where I'm giving them the edge I really don't think you can bet against Pat on a workout with burpees, especially not one with burpees and rope climbs
Starting point is 00:57:16 But I don't I don't disagree. Why aren't you guys picking Guy? He's the best rope climber You think he's just gonna burn out and he's just and he's strong moving weight off the ground to his head over his head Why is he the best rope climber? He just is I don't fucking know he just is he's the most athletic one He's the bad most athletic one and you know, it's only three if he can use his legs Oh, you guys like all those little tricks Brent does with the rope. They like give him those one-second advantages No, I just think nine nine of them in a workout with 42 burpees, if grip becomes an issue, I think the most efficient rope climbers are going to do the best.
Starting point is 00:57:52 And I think... And they're not in 20 foot ropes too. I know it's not a lot extra, but it's a little bit extra. Height will probably matter. Who do you think takes last? Caravus. Or besides him? Jorge.
Starting point is 00:58:06 Uh, besides him? Heinrich. Uh, besides him? I think Heinrich would do pretty good on this. Yeah, well, I mean, just look around though. Like he's gotta be fitter than these guys. Yeah. I don't disagree with you,
Starting point is 00:58:33 but I don't think he's gonna be quant. You know what I mean? Like that's who I'm going against right now. Hey, you think Noah comes out too hot on this one too? I think this one's gonna be kind of hard to come out too hot on. Like you could come out too hot, but like it's short enough
Starting point is 00:58:48 that I don't think it would burn you that badly. You think anyone doesn't dilly-dally in the transitions? You think anyone moves the transitions fast? I think they'll all move the transitions fast. I wonder if they're gonna like, if they're gonna do seven advanced, do seven advanced, do seven, and then go back to the rope and then do seven, or if they're gonna do 21 advanced, do seven advanced, do seven, and then go back to the rope and then do seven,
Starting point is 00:59:06 or if they're gonna do 21 in the same spot. So. I would like the seven advanced, make them like carry it and then go into it again. Yeah. All right. I feel like a lone wolf out here. And very insecure all alone
Starting point is 00:59:28 number six final event for day two Yeah, you know number six. I got ghee and then Jeff and then Jason ghee Jeff Jason Jeff, Jason, Jar. And I've got Guy and then Jeff and then Heinrich. I'm going to give him some love on this one. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:59:53 So I think if it's something where you have to like throw something or load something, I think his height is going to play a role and he is good at odd object strength. So if it is an odd object lift, I like his skills there. I also think he could do good in like a Denny Stone hold or something weird like that you know. But the problem is you got a lot of guys who could be good at that. But he's one of them. Okay, you ready?
Starting point is 01:00:22 I'm ready, let's hear it. Justin. Chandler, Dallin. Event number seven. I would really like to pick a Saxon for something. Did my window close already? Did my window close already? You can pick them for this one. I think you can pick them for eight. Individual event seven. Pegboard, skier, GHD, pegboard, skier, GHD, pegboard, skier, GHD, pegboard.
Starting point is 01:00:59 60, 40, 20 on the GHD. Is this just going to be how you lose it on the pegboard? Is this, is this all going to be just about who shits the bed on the pegboard? Who has the most fuck ups on the pegboard? No, I kind of think it's kind of like the pegboard might be a wash outside of a few people that are able to either do it with bent arms or able to skip some holes on the way down. But I think GHD cadence and ski pace are going
Starting point is 01:01:25 to really come into play. So I'm, I'm picking it based on the idea that, Hey, most of these guys are going to be pretty similar on the pegboard. So who is the best at that GHD ski combination? They love this combo. Don't they? They love it. The, the programmers? Yeah, yeah. I guess, Speeler and Josh, because they- Yeah, they did. They've done- Every year. They did Medball GHD Skierg with the Hill Run one year, and then one year they did Skierg into GHD back into Skierg.
Starting point is 01:01:58 Well no, into the log muscle-up. How do you guys remember that? That's what I was talking about. Log, ski, GHD, ski log. None of that shit sticks for me Well, there was one guy that was better than everybody at that every single time Yes, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go first. I'm gonna go Justin Chandler Jay. I Would have picked Jay to win it if he wasn't retarded and put his stuff up online
Starting point is 01:02:22 retarded and put his stuff up online. I like his comfort level on it. I think if the, if there are people that can separate just because of how efficient they are at that, I'm just going to go and say that it's him. But I, I feel really confident about Justin Chandler. You're picking him based on you think he's going to be better on the pegs. I think he's one of the, I think he's going to be better on the pegs. I think he's one of the, I think he's one of the few people that can make a difference on the peg.
Starting point is 01:02:51 How about that? You know, our Adler Noah just out cause they're so goofy learning new shit. They, but I mean, Adler hasn't been the best that ski GHT combo period. Um, but I mean, that comes into play, I think a little bit too. Yeah, I'm gonna help you out a little bit Okay. Thank you, John You should not pick Chandler Okay, why is it is like a finger issue and hanging from the pegboard or something what I it's gonna be bad Okay, is he goofy? You'll see.
Starting point is 01:03:28 No, no. Okay. I was really just more... So basically what John's saying is as good as he is at the ski GHD, he's gonna make up for that on his lack of prowess on the pegboard, right? Yeah. Gotcha. Okay, cool. Well, I'll just stick with them. And then if that happens, I'm surprised you didn't pick Pat because Velner has been second on. Well, I guess I guess in the heat. Yeah, I'm trying to spread the love a little bit. I got you throw some names out that
Starting point is 01:03:58 I haven't been thrown out. No, you're better at that than I am. I just want to be right. Justin, Pat and Dallin is who I'm rocking with. Justin, Pat, Dallin. So Justin spent a lot of time on the pegboard wrestler. Not even that. He's just the best at like, like what JR said, I agree with. I think the pegboard is going to be for the most part negligible. And so I Justin is the best one period at the GHG ski combo and mainly just because the
Starting point is 01:04:35 GHG is he's the best GHG in the world. His speed is better than everybody. So for against Velner. Better than Colton's? And Velner, yeah, better than Colton's. Velner who was second in most of those events. Yeah, Taylor could not be in the same category as Justin in GHTs. He's gonna love that I said that too. Velner who was second place in this combo, most like in both the times that they went against each other and in the heat. I know Chandler beat him, but he was the heat previous so it's hard playing times wise, but Justin makes up a GHG for every six to seven GHGs that Pat does.
Starting point is 01:05:15 So if they did 60 GHGs, Justin would do 10 faster than Pat make up 10 reps. That's very significant. You know who, you know, I wonder how Sam does on the pegboard. Cornway? Yeah. He should be good. Probably pretty good. I mean, I think he's a good pick for this.
Starting point is 01:05:36 I'm going with Saxon, Justin, Sam. Could you go back to the workout real quick? I just want to point something out to the listeners and as we're talking about maybe the pegboard not playing as major of a role unless you're really, really, really good at it or really poor at it. The order of this really does matter of these movements. If they would have done pegboard,HD ski pegboard GHD ski pegboard So you had to go from the pole into the pole. It would probably be more
Starting point is 01:06:12 Of a factor the fact that the upper body like the arms get reprieve During the 60 and the 40 GHD I think is a big deal and it's it's it's a it's a bigger deal for people that may Have been slowed down a lot more on the on the pegboard How about your core just being crushed on that last pegboard? Like you might not realize how much core it takes to do a pegboard until you fucking get because these people these guys are used To putting their foot on the wall. They're not used to that shit dangling. Yeah, but what they are saying is that you're They're on the pegboard for a long time. Is it two or three?
Starting point is 01:06:46 I think it's three. So if it's three pegboards across it's not a fast thing. It's very slow Like you're on there 30 to 40 seconds At least and like that's a long time just to be hanging and And doing the pegboard. So what he's saying is if you skied before the pegboard and now you have the pegboard, just juices up your forearm, it juices up your grip and now you gotta hang 30 to 40 seconds.
Starting point is 01:07:15 And that would make people wait at the pecs. I get that, but I think also is people are gonna feel it here. With the people. I think so too. For sure. They're… Between the pubis and the collarbone or the nipples, they're going to… Yeah. I was actually surprised how much midline doing a lateral pegboard was. It was…
Starting point is 01:07:36 It's crazy, right? Especially if you're not used to doing… A lot more than you think because you're trying to keep yourself from swinging too much and trying to keep yourself from swinging is just tightening your midline So you just flexed up the whole time? Yeah, would you just let the swing go then? uh, I think if you could time it with your Moving the pegs it could it could help but It's a lot more grip too because you're you're swinging back and forth. So yeah, we don't have details on that yet either
Starting point is 01:08:03 I don't think the athletes do either. I'm pretty sure they haven't been briefed on anything other than one, two, and three. So it'll be interesting to see if it is unbroken or, or fail. Like if you do have to get all the way across, I can't imagine it's not unbroken and if it's not, it should have been, Oh shit. Event nine is some taking something off the ground again. I wouldn't be surprised. I mean, look at, there's nothing coming off the ground again. Nope. I wouldn't be surprised.
Starting point is 01:08:27 I mean, look at, there's nothing coming off the ground in, um, in event, uh, it's really just snatch, devil press and probably six. Yeah. So event nine, event nine is going to be something crazy off the ground. Well, I mean, we speculated it it's gonna be a barbell cycling workout Probably in cleaning clean and jerking. You do you think any chance to introduce something new? Okay, we'll get there in a second I'm getting ahead of myself mandate three rounds the heavy Jump rope double unders and what do they mean by heavy? How heavy is that? I think the handles are a pound each
Starting point is 01:09:04 Okay, and in a thicker rope uh it is a little it is a it is a thicker cable yeah i think it's a weighted i think it's a weighted cable and a weighted handle and do do the boys do this unbroken all three rounds i'd be impressed if someone did three rounds of I bet somebody does the double owners and broken But I'm sure they will it will be hard. Not everybody will yeah, like it will be I the rope is the main part of this workout Obviously hand sandwalk speed but it's made on the rope Agree, and then you got to get a hundred pound crazy strong man looking dumbbell, right? It looks like it's out of the cartoons. That's Seer Bell.
Starting point is 01:09:48 Looks like something Popeye would have. Yeah, the handle is like a regular handle, but the heads of it are huge. 100 pounds, they got a walk 50 feet, lunge 50 feet with it over their head, and then 100 feet of handstand walk. You know, I think it would be a better finish if the lunges, when the lunges come at the end,
Starting point is 01:10:08 but we'll discuss that in a second. Okay, three rounds of that. I always like, I always like a lunge race at the end. Can't think of a bad event. Yeah. You got lunges, you got carry, you got some kind of a sled push, and then I think you got handstand walk. I think all those, anything where you're moving your body or you're moving something down
Starting point is 01:10:32 a field is probably the best way to do it. I feel like the guys have gotten so good at handstand walk that the suspense is like slowly leaving it. I got you. So like if it was a hundred foot unbroken requirement, there might be a little bit of suspense. Sure. A lot, dude. No, no, I'm not saying it is. I'm just saying to seven's point, if there was something where there was some risk involved, it might create more of a race at the end. You want me to go first in this one? Yes.
Starting point is 01:10:59 I got Dallin. Ricky Brent. Hold your applause. You know what's interesting about putting Ricky, they're going to win for different, they're going to, they're going to do well in this for different reasons. The, the, the thing with Ricky is he, I mean, he's, he's willing to hold on probably till his arm falls off. Yeah. The thing with Ricky is he's willing to hold on probably till his arm falls off. Yeah, I know Ricky's a very fast handstand walker. And I like the fact that I think Brent and Allen are going to get a little bit ahead of people on the lunge.
Starting point is 01:11:36 Because it's 50 feet. You know, it's not... I just think they're gonna... You know, Brent always catches people on the lunge. Always. He might wait till the last round before you see it, but he lunges better, especially under fatigue than most people. And it's hard to realize unless you're just watching the last bit of a lunge to the finish.
Starting point is 01:11:57 But he always ends up chipping like three people during the lunge. And I think Dallin is is extremely good jump roper. I think Sam Kwant is a good dark horse for this Because he's also an extremely good jump roper with the heavy rope But yeah, I'm rocking with Dallin Ricky and Brent Chandler's gonna get time kept on this, huh? It's not going to be one of his better events. I'm going to answer Sarah's comment while the silence is deafening. Sarah, we're going to go live on the spin cast at 355 a.m. 355 a.m. Central time so I don't know what that is for you, but Central time 355 a.m We're gonna go live. We're gonna cover the strong women and then we're gonna take a break and then we'll cover crossfit at around
Starting point is 01:13:01 And then Sarah that we're I'm gonna go live tomorrow at 6 45 a.m. here for the post shows. Then at 7 a.m. we're going to take a little break. Bear Handlin's coming on to make an announcement from Born Primitive. And then we have an 8 40 show and a 12 20 show tomorrow. 6 45 8 40 12 20. Okay. Event number eight. It's got some lunging. It's got some handstand walking. It's got some jump roping. I like Brenda Allen, Jason. I put John's in your account in your column. Sorry. Who do you who do you like? Jer? Brent, Dallin and Jason.
Starting point is 01:13:54 A lot of that's because I know how much how much Zeus double under Jason's done like in the last year? It's been crazy Just how much he's how much work he's done with that rope And he's got he's got good overhead good overhead stability So I think it ultimately this is gonna come down to shoulder stamina like Chris said This event because it's the second last event is where some heart is going to have to start showing And so Oh, we're gonna pick james because he has the biggest heart for first ricky Because he's got the most grit and jay because he has the best attitude one two three
Starting point is 01:14:44 Cause he's got the most grit in Jay because he has the best attitude. One, two, three. All right. James, James, Ricky, Jay. I wish this was event nine. I would be more confident with my, uh, uh, picks. Okay. Number nine. What do we think it is?
Starting point is 01:14:59 I just think it's barbell cycling of some sort. You think it's just one movement over and over and over? I mean, it might be mixed with something, but barbell cycling will be,. You think it's just one movement over and over and over? I mean, it might be mixed with something, but barbell cycling will be the crux. It's just, that's how it's been every single year. And Rogue has not, they've shown a pattern of they're gonna repeat things over and over.
Starting point is 01:15:18 Like it's not, they don't, they don't. Tell me what they've been doing. They ever do a DT, they did a grace. They did heavy grace, and then they did kind of a mix of grace with different variations of cleans and with double unders in it So so you you think that they could do a couplet die
Starting point is 01:15:36 They could do a whole bunch of things but barbell cycling will be the what makes the workout They don't have a hill right they don't have a Hill, right? They don't have a Hill this time. I don't think so. It's called Crookshanks mound. It's called what? Modern Hill. Crook Crookshanks mound.
Starting point is 01:16:05 I don't get it. Edward Crookshanks Mound. I don't get it. Edward Crookshanks, he was the king during... Braveheart. Braveheart. Oh. Alright, let's pick number nine. Alright, I got Jeff. Feel very safe with that pick.
Starting point is 01:16:24 And then I got Dallin. And then I got Jeff, feel very safe with that pick. And then I got Dallen and then I got Brent. You see a common theme here. Jeff, Dallen, Brent. Big mistake. And I'm gonna go Jeff, Justin, Dallen. Jeff, Justin, Dallen. I think you have Dallin and Justin backwards.
Starting point is 01:16:49 And I could see Justin doing really, really well in a lot of these. I think a lot of these workouts, I think Brent will do well. But even if I don't think he'll podium, so I'm our top three in the event, but then I just put him there because I want him to do well. It's his last competition. Yeah, and you know, last year they did Heavy Grace, I'm sorry, two years ago they did Heavy Grace. Last year they did clean variations
Starting point is 01:17:18 where they had some squat cleans. I could absolutely just see them doing 30 squat clean thrusters at 225, just 30 clusters per time. And when I think about that, I think about Justin because I think just about how good of a squatter he is. Yeah. I mean, Brent would not be the guy.
Starting point is 01:17:36 Because you look at the programming. But they got 60 thrusters. Yeah. I don't think they're going to do that. But what I'm saying is, I don't put it past them to squat again. They're doing 60 thrusters, they're only doing eight squats snatch. Is there any other squatting that I'm just forgetting about? Is that it? I think that's it. So for nine events only to have two squats doesn't feel like enough for me.
Starting point is 01:17:59 It's a squat clean ladder in event six. Sure. I mean, it could be a squat in event six. And then I would love it if event nine was an on object. I think that would be really cool if it was something like strong man. I mean, I just, I still think- Amazing to end it on. Yeah, I just, I still think that
Starting point is 01:18:20 that there still could be some squatting to come. And it makes me think of Justin. I really like my picks if it's atlas stones Okay, you you have to know who's gonna win this event. You have to understand how synchronicity works and Since down is gonna win the 2025 CrossFit Games. He has to win this event because it makes that statement It's like we can look back and be like, oh shit He won the last event at rogue and he just kept the momentum going so you got down in first Then you got Ricky the problem with Ricky is can Ricky's body hold up for an entire competition
Starting point is 01:18:57 So probably deserve a second pick in there And then Jason and third. I will say if Dallin needs to win to hold his spot on the mountain if that means anything to him The thing the thing with Jason is Jason can show up for game day and If he sees down if he in how he how Jason works is if he sees Dallin doing well, he thinks he can do well, because he
Starting point is 01:19:31 looks at Dallin and James and that's how he calibrates himself. Like so so Jason and Dallin think they can win the games because they saw James win the games and they think they're better than Jason. Sorry, they think they're better than James. I don't know if they think they can win the games because they think they're better than James. I don't know if they think they can win the games because they think they're better than James. I think they just think they can win the games. Well, they think that they're better than James.
Starting point is 01:19:53 Yeah. They train with them. They're like, what the fuck this knucklehead one? Not on that day. Yeah, exactly. For all the game day player you're saying Hopper is. And they're mistaken too. But but I but I understand the sentiment Except downs not mistaken
Starting point is 01:20:10 Down down that's that's the future of the sport. All right, uh, great great show When we know more when we know the last two workouts Probably not until the day of like they did this last year. They didn't announce the event until after event four. I think, oh, for six? Yeah. Okay. Like they might, they might announce events six and nine at the same time, but I remember
Starting point is 01:20:37 it was like, it wasn't until all the events were over, we didn't know what the event was and then they announced it. Just a similar to the CrossFit games, like how Dave does it sometimes. You got a winner for this event, for Rogue, taking home the big bucks? I do. Who is that? It's Jeff Adler.
Starting point is 01:21:00 Adler. JR? I wouldn't disagree with that With this with with the workouts that we know so unless six and not six or nine is something funky I think is a pretty safe bet You got you got Ricky on the podium I don't Ricky's fourth place for me. I I don't.
Starting point is 01:21:23 Ricky is fourth place for me. I got I got Jeff and then I have Justin getting second and then I have down and getting third. And then Ricky and then Brent and then Hopper. And then down there. You think film is going to retire. I think he's going to get seventh place.
Starting point is 01:21:48 J.R. who do you got Adler? Yeah, that's all I've really thought about who I who I think is gonna win. I haven't thought about anything else. All right I'm going with Ricky. I Would love to go with Ricky but I went really hard on Ricky this whole like the whole of last year like Ricky garage gonna win the CrossFit Games, I think Ricky guards the fittest man in the world and He's just he's gotten a habit of just Not doing not performing to his potential whether he gets hurt whether he rides a mountain bike
Starting point is 01:22:22 I'm just kind of tired of like it's always something. And I'm almost at the point where until he shows me he can, I'm not going to predict him to win competitions like that. I don't want to say he's in the same category as Yona and Sam Quant. Like, he's not quite that unpredictable, but he's showing signs of. There's like that might be some duct tape under the hood, holding some shit together. I mean, Romans the same way I was high on Roman the year previous and they both,
Starting point is 01:22:54 they both just, they just don't perform to the high, like what you think their potential could be. Hey, you think we could see the new rogue bike at the event? what you think their potential could be. Hey, you think we could see the new rogue bike at the event? They have a new bike? Event six? Yeah, they made, they just created a bike. Surprised JR hasn't proposed that or maybe you have. They already have an echo bike so I would be surprised. Yeah, I just wouldn't be, I would be surprised if they, I thought they could use it on like an event one type situation but when they announced what that was I didn't think they were gonna use it No, I don't think is ands in the same bucket is falling apart. I think is and just has some just you know She's a ten and so many things and then she got some eights and nines mixed in there
Starting point is 01:23:39 Well, no, I think she's a six and one and a certain thing and that's all the games tested But what I'm saying is she doesn't she she's not, she's not, she's not falling apart. No, no. I think her games placement was solely the base in the programming. How old is Alex? 24. Yeah. Ricky's what 30, 31, 28. 28. No, no, no. He might be 30. Me and Ricky. Yeah. I thought he was 30 but maybe maybe
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Starting point is 01:25:59 Sweet. All right. Thank you Yeah, thank you. All right. Thanks guys. Hey, when is crucible? Next over when's crescendo. Yeah. Thank you. When's crescendo? I don't know yet I need the powers of e to give me some dates and you know, you need you need the Crossfit to come out with what they got going on No, sir. Please. I what you're waiting for. Yeah because for teams like if crescendo is gonna be a tune-up for semi-finals then it needs to be far enough away from semi-finals to where teams will still want to come. So like a month out and if they teams are not competing in person for semi-finals and they're
Starting point is 01:26:40 like going online to the crossfit games and I can move it back a little bit and put it a little like in May. So yeah. in person for semi-finals and they're like going online to the CrossFit Games and I can move it back a little bit and put it a little like in May. And would it be a tune up to the CrossFit Games then? Pretty much. So yeah. I love the trailer for the new doc. So they'll give a date and then you'll give a date. Yeah. I kind of have to do it that way. Did you guys see the trailer for the new documentary?
Starting point is 01:27:09 No. Oh, did you see it? John? I know. Oh, it's really good. The one from 2023. Yeah. All these people are making fun of it because it's coming out.
Starting point is 01:27:20 It's like, what do I fucking care? I don't even remember who won. I'm excited to see it. Do you remember who won? Yeah. Oh. All right. Oh, is that the one where Roman hurt himself?
Starting point is 01:27:33 Yeah. One foot of double unders are probably gonna make a big appearance. You're not interested in that, either of you guys, in watching that? I mean, all that, I'll probably I'll probably watch it but that stuff plays in a movie in my head in any way it's just kind of like watching the same movie. Sevan can't remember who won in the bedroom.
Starting point is 01:28:07 Bye bye.

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