The Sevan Podcast - Da Crazy Hawaiian | Power Slap SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION
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Peace and love.
It's a Savon podcast show.
Bam, we're live. Bam, we're live Bam, we're live
Good to see you guys
Thank you, Carlos
Is that the guy's name, Carlos?
Jose, Carlos, Javier
Thank you for the intro
It's dope
My wife's like, hey, I like the intro
She said it almost sounds like you
I gotta ask him how he made it.
Chad Wise, thank you for being a new member.
Zach Rubin, Sean Wilkinson, Kendra Harbrits.
Thank you.
Good to see you guys.
Good evening, Late Show.
I think tomorrow morning I'm going to do the Dave Castro Weekend Review.
I don't know if it's scheduled yet.
I am so pumped about this guest.
This is, I had reached out to a mutual friend I have with the man, Uncle Dana.
And this is, I don't know, like a year ago.
And I was like, hey, can I team up with someone who does PR over at Power Slap?
Is that what it's called? Power Slap?
Yeah, Power Slap. Live on Rumble.
And I was like, yo,
uh,
can I get someone over there?
And they just start feeding me people.
So I made contact and they said,
sure,
no problem.
And then somehow it just like fell through the cracks.
There's so many things going on.
Shit just falls through the cracks.
And then,
uh,
this guy had been on my radar before.
Uh,
I don't know.
I don't even know what people call him.
I don't know if they call him lane,
uh,
Viernes,
Viernes,
or if they call him the crazy Hawaiian, or what.
Or maybe the Koa?
I don't know what they call him, but I can't.
Wait.
Barclay.
Savon, serious question, stats question. What are your podcast fitness PRs?
Oh, fitness.
Oh, my.
Oh. I mean, they're not even relevant anymore. They were so long ago. They were so long ago. I used to do I used to do grace with 155. I used to do like a 10 strict L-sit muscle-ups, stuff like that. Today, I did 12 muscle-ups. I think that's more muscle-ups than I did all in the last year.
Not in a row.
I paced them out.
Yeah, 135 deadlift.
Thank you, Rambler. I think I did 315 in a workout once for 7 or 12 or 15. I can't remember. It was at a park.
It was a workout that had like GHD sit-ups, deadlifts, and I want to say 800 meter run.
It was a hard workout. I'll tell you this. What's my most depressing thing is, is I wasn't, I,
the only thing that I could never really do, you know, I, I could overhead
squat, you know, one 75 for 10, I could get in good positions and shit like that.
I never had big numbers.
Um, I never had, I don't think I ever back squatted more than two 45 or front squatted
more than two 25.
But the thing is, is my, the thing that really depressed me the most is I was never able
to swing the two poot.
Like I would swing it a couple of times and my back would go out.
Hi, Caleb.
Hey.
Oh, Caleb, I have a few notes for you.
I know I sent you the notes.
I'm going to say, hey, I think this guy's not showing up.
No way.
Uh-oh.
Are you kind of sad?
That would be so sad.
I'm so pumped.
I'm so ready. What'd you say?
I'm kind of excited for him. Yeah for such a young sport. This guy's already a legend
Yeah, I don't know 225 is pretty bad for a front squat and maybe i'm lying
Maybe it was 215
I think I cleaned it. I think I I think I
Power cleaned and squat cleaned both and jerked 215 once outside my backyard.
Three-hour difference in Hawaii.
I know.
You think maybe that's what happened?
Maybe.
He's not that far away.
Oh, I don't think he's in Hawaii.
I think he's in Missouri.
Oh, well, then it's only two hours.
He's two hours ahead of us.
It's 830 for him.
Yeah.
No, I didn't do 225 for 10.
I think I did it once.
There's nothing special in my arsenal.
I could do some crazy shit, though, with muscle-ups.
That was it.
Like, I could just hang out in the transition.
That was it. That's really impressive. I could click the ring. But I muscle ups. That was it. Like I could just hang out in the transition. That was it.
That's really impressive.
I could click the ring,
but I'm little,
I'm a little man.
Yeah.
It's like me rowing really well.
Is that what,
is that the,
yeah,
yeah,
kinda.
Yeah.
I got you.
I've been,
I've been in a heated argument with a guy about my rowing technique lately.
Oh,
on the internet or in real in real life real life experience yeah
wow this guy's uh we do like a long like 40 60 minute row every morning uh-huh and i wrote my
legs are like very long right like probably two-thirds of my body is legs and when I row like I have to like
move my knees out of the way to get into like my so I can get like all of the
chain as far as oh yes you know yes yes otherwise like I'm fighting my knees to
to get that far and he keeps telling me like I i gotta bring my knees in but then if i do that it shortens up my
stroke and i lose like all of my power so we've been going back and forth over the past two days
about my rowing is he an instructor is he just a rando that you've been working out with now
that you're at your new summer camp no No. He's an instructor. Yeah.
I think I have a feeling he watched. So the reason I think this is, so he's like a big high rocks guy.
And so what I feel like happened is he watched a bunch of Hunter McIntyre videos.
I'm holding that against him, by the way.
Yes.
I agreed.
Agreed.
A little bit.
It was a little bit but i think
he he watched some hunter mcintyre video about him rowing because i went and looked at him i went
and looked at hunter mcintyre videos of rowing yes and that's how he rose so i just think that he's
he's like well if hunter mcintyre rose that way then everybody needs to row that way, then everybody needs to row that way. Ah. I don't know.
I guess that's fair. Hunter's legit, but...
Yeah, I guess, but he rows like trash, too.
Kenneth DeLapp,
Caleb, just tell him to fuck off. Be a man.
Dude, I've been trying, to be honest.
I feel bad.
Um...
Sousa just hit this guy up, too.
So... Row like Hunter to get second exactly. Yeah, I think I think hunter got fifth
There you go. See he's slow. What did what did um, what did a hunter get? Does anyone know?
I want to say he took fifth. I want to say four dudes beat him
Did you hear did you hear the new jingle?
No.
This?
It's a Sebum Podcast Show.
It's a Sebum Podcast Show.
Everybody's welcome.
Peace and love.
It's a Sebum Podcast Show.
Bad or Life.
Okay.
It's not bad.
No, I like it. I need one for when you're here that says, and Caleb at the end. your life. Okay. It's not bad. I like it. I need one for
when you're here that says, uh, and Caleb
at the end. And Caleb.
I just have to make sure I don't play it when you're not
here. Uh, Dave Weekend Review.
I think I'm going to do the Dave Weekend Review tomorrow
morning.
Zachary
Kadatz. Wow, that hurts.
Sounds like a rad commercial
Ouch
Is Hunter in hiding since last performance
I've texted him three times
With no response
And usually he's very quick
Usually I'm on the A team with Hunter
I don't know what he's doing now
Claws way out of suicide
I probably got too real
for him. Did I get too real for you, Hunter?
Lane Verns,
6'2", 420,
420 pounds.
I think that's the biggest he's been.
One time he dropped 125 pounds.
He lost 125 pounds.
They were talking. He was doing a podcast
and someone asked him,
what are your goals? He said, after I win the super heavyweight pounds he lost 125 pounds they were talking he was doing a podcast and someone asked him hey would
you ever uh what are your goals and he said after i win the super heavyweight title i'm gonna go
down and win the heavyweight title i was like wow why he's gonna lose weight and do it i guess so
and you have to get down to 265 and he's 420 shut up he's a big dude it's that much of a drop-off? Yeah. I mean, I think Super Heavyweight's just 265 and bigger.
Oh, okay.
That's true.
No weekend review?
There will be.
I'm thinking about calling Koa.
Koa.
Koa.
Okay.
Pray to the God. Should I just call him sure okay
maybe if we start doing a haka he'll come around
do Hawaiians do hakas
yeah that's like their thing right
I thought that was um
Tungens
Tungens or something
that was culturally culturally insensitive.
Should I call him Koa or Lane?
Call him the crazy Hawaiian.
The crazy
Hawaiian.
Let's see the answers.
Oh, it's Power Slap. Power Slap. Koa Power Slap.
Power Slap.
Koa Power Slap.
Damn.
Jackass.
Oh, that's a great question.
If Hunter's slipping in high rocks, do you think he'll pivot to one of these slapping events?
There's no way he'd win any of these.
I would like to see this.
I just watched Taylor and Glinton tonight.
I'd like to see that episode. I started watching it, and then I pivoted over to one of her other shows.
Was it good? It was good. was really really really good it was about uh pride month oh cool and she had two guests it was it
was actually amazing oh uh susan just texted me and said damn that sucks maybe just do weekend review. What if he comes on late and I'm in the middle of the weekend review?
Oh my God.
He's got to do the weekend review with us.
Stressed out.
Um,
then I got to call Susan now.
Yeah.
If you,
I need,
this is,
uh,
this is where Susan is like a therapy.
He'll be,
he goes, he has to go into therapist mode.
He's so good at it.
Okay, let me see.
I went to Whataburger for dinner, and I got two burgers and a huge thing of fries, to be honest.
It was amazing.
Oh.
Your call cannot be completed as dialed.
Please check the number and dial again. Ever since I started being around Whataburger, I'm drawn to them.
There's one near you?
There's like four.
I can't drive around and not pass one.
That's what...
Oh, this sucks.
The phone's not working again.
It wasn't working this morning either.
Damn it.
God damn it.
What is going on?
I just updated my OS.
It says it's connected.
Search for audio.
Oh, maybe if I disconnect the whole thing again
Hey, what do you think I should do?
Yeah
But what if he comes on
I'm totally prepared.
But what if I get halfway through the week in review?
Do I just tell him, hey, can we reschedule?
It's up to you. If you're ready for it, just start that show.
We'll get you in the front of the show out.
I don't know if I'm capable of making those types of decisions.
Yeah. I don't know. He just dropped off.
Maybe he had an emergency.
You know what I mean?
Do you think we have a time
issue?
I mean,
I said Pacific Standard Time, and I thought
he was even going to be in Vegas. Remember he said
he was in Vegas?
Oh, maybe he got wasted.
Oh, someone said he's on island time.
Does that mean they're always late?
Yeah, usually fashion
Yo is it oh shit it is yeah Chris Besterfield says I should slap. What the fuck is up with this
roadcaster, dude?
Is it having issues?
I mean, it won't connect to the phone.
Are you just holding the phone up?
Yeah.
Yeah, ghetto.
A little tough love from Sousa.
Yeah, I just say this is a recent review. Okay, fine. A little tough love from Sousa.
Yeah, I just say this is a recent review.
Okay, fine.
You think he's going to show up?
I think he'll call you back.
You think he'll just call the number back?
Maybe.
No, no.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I think you're good.
Maybe just go to Dave's and get a few of them.
Dick Butter wants this show to get really dark.
He says, let's just scroll through your Instagram feed.
Let's scroll through your Instagram feed.
Hey, weren't we hooked up with the PR person over at Power Slap and something happened?
Like it just fell through the cracks or something, right?
Yeah, I can't remember
Yeah, I can't remember we'll have to remember her name so we can look at the text thread
Uh, caleb's playing uh, danielle brandon vacuuming god damn
Always a good call. Yeah, that was that was the first thing that that those first thing that showed up on my instagram god damn that's what she wears the exact same outfit i wear when i and now she's cleaning
dishes jesus yeah she's in the daizen yeah this is um uh domestic domestic home domestic porn
domestic domestical duties porn Domestical duties Wow
Maybe I'll send her a link
Fuck
There you go
Okay
Hey just
Just play like
Just play like 20 links
Just make the whole show
Just sending you out a link
And seeing who comes on
Alright
Alright thank you
Alright
Bye
Bye
Phone doesn't work All right. Bye. Bye.
Phone doesn't work.
Guest doesn't show up.
At least I'm healthy.
And strong like boo.
She won't let you slap her.
Caleb, did you ever figure out your water your water Oh were you having water issues over there
Nah dude I still haven't figured it out
I haven't really had a whole lot of time to address it but
Don't you just screw a hose onto the RV
Yeah
So I'm about 99% certain
It is
Something more than
What I'm doing
There's something more wrong with it
That I haven't really figured out I don't think it's like the sequence that i'm doing like there's something more wrong with it that i haven't really
figured out i don't think it's like the sequence that i'm doing it i think there's like something
physically wrong with the apparatus that you hook it up into so i think i might have to take it in
to get it fixed what i would do i mean with my motorhome is it's been so long as i would screw
the hose onto the water well no i would just fill up the tank and then I would turn on a pump.
Yeah.
So I have that.
And you hear it going.
Yeah.
I have the,
I have a pump.
I have like a,
a freshwater tank and a water pump and I can use that.
Like I have no issue doing that.
Okay.
There's a,
there's like a freshwater hookup that you can just like hook a hose up and do it.
Yeah, so it'll just like run constantly.
And do you not even need the pump at that time?
The pressure from the hose does it?
Right.
I can just shut the water pump off and it'll run.
Is there something you have to turn to switch it to the hose?
We have.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like now it's sucking from here and you turn something like when I turn my sprinklers on and off.
I haven't seen anything like that. Most of the stuff that I have like knobs for is like.
Electric electrical stuff, so maybe I am missing a knob. I just need to go look around and look for it.
But what do you what's the name of your motorhome?
Shit, what is it? It's a.
the name of your motorhome uh shit what is it it's a motorhome switch from so what's that called white white water what's what's that tank called uh i think it's just fresh water or like a fresh
water tank like a front there's yeah because there's black water and gray water but then
the other one's fresh water to faucet water 2023 quantum LC Thor motor coach
a water
homes motor homes water pump is
is pressure activated doesn't
have an on off switch what are you talking about when a faucet
is open the pump senses the
RV system explained in depth
that line hose
locations you think
it would be where the hose is
yeah that's what i thought too it's not really there how to operate motorhome's uh water system
who thought you'd be watching
who's oh Oh, oh.
Clip that into place.
Now, it's important not to turn the tap on at this point because we need to go inside to access the control panel.
So we have the Acrosource hose connected,
and we're inside with the control panel.
So we turn the control panel on, and all we do is we use the down arrow.
Oh, shit.
Do you have something that advanced?
No, I definitely don't have that. i didn't have that either that thing is high tech
that's crazy until it says fill tank and then once it says fill tank we press this arrow alongside
and it says pump musty must be on to fill the tank so all we now do we don't on to fill the tank. So all we now do... We don't want to fill the tank.
Look, he had a button up top there, though.
Oh.
Picture, which is the pump button.
Okay.
So he has, like, a button you push.
All right, you don't got that.
Yeah, I don't have that.
That's fine.
What year is your RV?
23.
Oh.
You'd think you have that button.
Yeah.
Mine was a 77.
I forget how I did mine.
I don't know if I ever hooked mine up directly to fresh water most everybody that i've gotten messages from just
says that they hook up their hook up the hose and then turn off the pump and it just runs oh so
otherwise people are saying that there's like a fucking i don't believe this i don't believe
this for a second blockage i don't believe that well and that's what I thought too because somebody said that sometimes the valve is depressed and
it's like stuff depressed so you have oh there's like a little ball that flows from one to the
other oh okay right so like whenever you so I went and opened that up and uh like it was like
stopped so I was able to like open it up and it presses.
It depresses easily now.
Yeah.
But it still didn't solve the problem.
I don't know.
Well, you can just keep filling your tank up, right?
Yeah, I really don't care that much.
It's I have and there's showers in the on the RV park and there there's showers where I go to school.
So if there's anything, I'll just fucking do that.
All right.
I'm trying to think if I have any other...
I bet a dude, Barclay, one time...
I bet...
What the fuck is the guy's name?
He's a friend of mine.
He was my L1 instructor.
He owns CrossFit Santa Cruz.
Oh, my God.
I can't believe I can't remember his name.
Wes Pye?
No.
Good guess, though.
He's on the L1 team still.
Probably a Flowmaster.
Hollis Malloy?
Hollis, yes.
Wow.
Where did you see that?
I Googled it.
Oh. I bet Hollis one time that Iis, yes. Wow, where did you see that? I Googled it. Oh.
I bet Hollis one time that I would get a three-minute Fran or I'd pay him 50 bucks in the next, like, two years.
And that was, like, when I was – that was 10 years ago or 12 years ago, 14 years ago.
And I never got better than, like, a 541.
Maya. Did you pay him 50 bucks?
No. Nope. I just hope he forgot.
Yeah, I get that. I feel the same way.
There was a workout, the 2008 CrossFit
Games, and it was 10 deadlift
at 275, 10 burpees, 3 rounds.
Okay.
And I think that workout, like I beat
like more than half the field but i mean that's a
pretty easy workout or it was then wow it's a good workout for you yeah that's right and that was
right and there was a time when that was right in the wheelhouse and i had the rubber i had the
rubber weights not like the rubber weights that you guys know today. But like, if you go back, I like, I had like, like legit rubber weights, like the rubber stuff.
No, these were colored.
These were colored still.
There was like red and yellow and blue, I think in green, but they were like, I don't know who who made them but they were like the original weights
that everyone got back in the day i took them from the games i used to get so much cool shit at the
games all the free shit that nobody wants right oh everyone wanted it i still have a bar i think
i still i still have a bar that dave gave me from the 2008 games i use it all the time it's like
it feels like it's brand new seriously yeah i use it all the time. It feels like it's brand new. Seriously?
Yeah, I use it all the time. It's got crazy knurling on it.
It's nasty. That's awesome.
I got a banner
one time from Mac.
Oh, he responded!
Oh, trying to join. Oh, shit.
Did we send him the right link?
Oh, sweet.
Let me see.
Wow.
I wonder if he has that.
I'm on Hawaiian
Hawaii time. Island time.
Yeah.
The old school reds were 45s. Blue was
35s. Yellow 25s and greens were 10s.
That's how it is.
That's how it is at Crunch Fitness.
It's like a
chain global gym kind of thing.
And all of those weights are
like that. 45s are reds.
What are they now?
What do other people think they are?
Oh, they're blue.
Yeah, 45s are blue now.
55s are red.
I wish I still had those weights
I don't know I must have given them to someone
I've given away more shit than I have
I've given away so much shit
I had a sick
I had this sick GHD
The most expensive one at Rogue
I think I gave that away
I know stupid
I just never used it
I keep trying to convince my wife To let us buy one it they take up
so much room we bought an assault runner i convinced her to do that wow that was that was
easier to convince her to do that than it is to buy ghd i i had an assault runner for a long time
for over a year set up in my garage and i never used it and now like
probably me and the kids use it three times a week we do a lot of backward shit on it a lot
we do too yeah backwards yeah yeah just like walking usually we just bought we just walk
backwards for like five ten minutes a day yeah it's pretty cool for that yeah you know what's
nuts is if you if you bring someone over to your house and you put them
on the air runner you can like like like my dad like my dad cannot do the air runner he can't
even walk on it can't even figure it out yeah it's bizarro world that that's how my both of my
my dad and my father-in-law the same issue they get on it and they turn automatically they fold
over to a nine like so their torso is perpendicular to
the ground and they hold it and i'm like hey dude stand up take a deep breath and like step further
back on the treadmill yeah and just just step up one inch like you don't got to do nothing
yeah yeah yeah like it's like short choppy steps to the door hey you know what else is really cool to do on it um
and uh when i was traveling up the coast with greg on the boat i got on some treadmills and gyms
and they weren't air runners but doing 360s my kids taught me that you can do that yeah 360s
180s it's pretty cool and then you can you can start working on your footwork it's crazy seven
how much do you use that sled you gave away your address to public buying it live on the pot.
I don't remember that.
I don't know what you're talking about,
but I don't,
when I,
I don't use the sled very often and I wish I,
I wish I used it more.
I'm billing,
billing Katie.
When I first got it,
I used it all the time.
Bill and Katie sent me a a hundred foot rope.
Do you know how nice that is to have a hundred feet of rope?
I don't know.
Is it nice?
Dude, it's crazy.
It's so cool.
And oh, one row gave us your.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Anyway, so.
I bought the.
I'll probably start using it more as the kids.
I'll probably start using it more.
Yeah.
God, it would be amazing if this guy actually came on.
He just texted me on my way, guys.
My opening line.
What's your name?
Is it Koa?
Is it Crazy Hawaiian?
Or is it Lane?
What should I call you?
Yeah.
All right. I'm telling you it's going to be worth it.
I listened to a couple podcasts he's on.
And he's got some great stories.
But the podcast hosts were shitty.
Classic.
The key to a good podcast is follow-up questions.
So someone's like, when I have kids, you say, how old are they? And then you ask, are they from the same mom? And you've got to is follow-up questions so someone's like when i have kids you say how old are they and then you ask are they from the same mom and like you got to get follow-up
questions follow-up questions is where all the good shit is i used to do meth oh yeah where'd
you buy your meth from what's the most you ever did shit like that did you reuse your needles
uh how much do you and your kids use your pegboard not a lot lot. Oh, shit. Not a lot.
I wish we used our pegboard more. There he is.
Oh, shit. There he is.
I'm telling you, man,
these kids, man, they're going to be running
around, losing my brains.
How many kids
do you have? I got
six of them, brother. Wow.
No
contraception in the crazy Hawaiian's house. Yeah, I Wow. No contraception in the Crazy
Hawaiian's house.
No contraception.
And we're 100%. We don't pull out.
No pull out.
Always swinging for the fences.
Yeah, making animals over there.
Look at that.
Are those your oldest?
That's my oldest son right there.
And my second oldest.
God, you're a blessed man.
Congratulations.
They're a blessing.
They really changed my life, man.
I used to be the craziest Hawaiian.
Now I'm just the craziest Hawaiian.
Now you're just the crazy dad.
Yeah, the crazy dad, for sure.
Hey, do people call you Lane?
You guys can call me Lane, Koa
Whatever rolls off your tongue easiest
Okay, Koa
Yeah, there you go
I'm Sevan, the guy in the red is Caleb
Caleb, Sevan
Yes, sir
Yeah, good to meet you, dude
Hey, how old are your kids?
So my oldest daughter is 15
And one under her is 13, and my oldest son is 8.
And my son after him just turned 6, like, a couple days ago.
And I got a 3-year-old and an 18-month-old.
Oh, man, dude, you're doing it.
I mean, we were stuck in the pool i was i literally had to beg my
kids okay get out the pool um you know it's hard for me to to to oh hold on let me just yell
something yeah yell at him get him get him babe take that ladder out the pool please thank you
and um and and and this is for anyone who's confused why he has so many kids
this is this is the problem right here wife of smoke show smoke show my goodness i appreciate
it man i appreciate she's uh truly a blessing in my life you know um man are we are we live right now? We live? We are. We are, sir.
We are.
Okay, okay.
Hey, it's a crazy Hawaiian.
Better late than never.
Someone in the comments said he's on island time.
Chill.
He's on island time.
Yeah, Hawaiian time.
If you don't know about Hawaiian time,
Hawaiian time is a little crazy.
We never early.
Koa, speaking of early, I watch a bunch of podcasts on you.
Your career is such a cool, cool career.
But your story, obviously, you're a man who perseveres and you work hard and you don't give up. And so I just want to go fuck it all the way back to where you were born and why
you were born and and uh and your siblings i want to go way back so where were you born i was born
in honolulu hawaii at kapiolani um medical center in uh 1990 april 3rd.
That's the year I graduated from high school.
Oh, shit.
Young man, young man.
34 years old.
I was driving a Volkswagen Rabbit with four 15s in the trunk,
listening to NWA.
There you go.
That's how you do it.
And do you have siblings?
Yes, I have two older sisters.
Yeah, there you go. My hometown baby right there.
Actually, I'm on more on the left,
on the west side of it, of that town.
Honolulu, Hawaii was where
I was born at.
My stomping grounds is from
the bottom, most bottom
left point to the
far left point.
Like Nimitz Beach?
Yeah, Nimitz Beach all the way up to that point to the left up north.
Yeah, all the way.
That's like my side of the island, that whole side.
Wow.
Yeah.
And you have two older sisters and that's it?
So I have two older sisters.
They're twins.
And then I have four stepbrothers.
Wait, hold on.
Let me move backward.
Two older sisters.
I have me, my brother Shane, Mana, which is the Hawaiian hitman, and Zane, which is Hawaii's slap champ.
And I got a younger brother, Kamakani.
That's all blood.
And then I got four stepbrothers, Pa'a, which is my age,
Mana, which is a year younger, and Sabu and Ikaika.
So, you know, the household was really full.
We were sleeping on top of each other, bro.
Is that 11 kids all together, Koa?
Yeah, all together.
Wow.
And there was a time in your life where you were all in the same residence?
Yep.
There was a time in our life where we all was basically no one had their own room.
Everyone, it was a community
type of thing you know it's common in hawaii so i didn't feel like anything was out of the
the average or out of the normal but you know when you when you're doing it all your life and
you finally get your own man i feel i'm very proud to you know to have my own place and my
kids got their own room um knowing where i came from you know and and so that setup is like there you know you don't even sleep in the same bed maybe
every night there's like just a couple big mattresses and rooms yeah wherever you wherever
you where wherever you uh you lay i guess you got your blanket and your pillow and and that and
that's bad and then um and then clothes it's just like you could grab anything, right?
Yeah. So a lot of times growing up, I wore almost the same clothes because, you know, it was like every day, almost every day until I came a little bit of age, maybe like, you know, 12, 13 years old.
I started working at these cockfight derbies.
Roosters?
Yeah, cock fights. Roosters, chickens.
Is it girls that fight or the
boys? No, it's the boys, but
it's
chickens right before they turn roosters,
I guess.
That's what you fight? You fight them before they get all...
I'm not even sure because I wasn't raising the chickens to fight. You fight them before they like get all. I'm not even sure.
Cause I wasn't raising the chickens to fight.
I was actually just working like as a doorman,
I was collecting 20 bucks per person.
I was helping them with,
you know,
clean up the dead birds.
I was helping them clean up the,
or,
you know,
cook the food at a very young age.
We was in the,
these illegal cock derbies and it'll last all weekend.
So I would have a job from Friday night to Sunday night,
and I would go home, you know, obviously feed my brothers and sisters.
But I would, me being the oldest boy, I would come home with, you know,
fresh stuff, fresh kicks, and I would go to school.
My brothers would kind of wait.
They'll wait for me to go to school, and then they can go wear my stuff.
I remember one time one of my brothers came to school with my shoes on, and I made –
oh, man, it's kind of bad, but I made him take it off and go the rest of the day barefoot.
The big brother can do that.
So you would collect 20,
and how much did you make an hour doing that?
Oh, I was making a ridiculous amount of money.
I was making like a thousand bucks a night
just being around people with that kind of money.
Would you be pocketing cash at the door
or would people tip you? I would be collecting 20 bucks per person and then obviously
i would i remember not turning in everything sure sure yeah i mean i was young so i was just like
collect and then he would grab a few when i was giving the money my uncle would grab a few
20s and throw it my way so I would still have a little bit more.
But, yeah, that was kind of the situation with us.
My mom and dad was always working.
They was working very hard just to provide a roof over our heads and some food.
some food.
But, you know, growing up, my sisters, they had checks every month.
And then, you know, me being the oldest boy, I always, you know,
I worked whatever I could do, clean yards, walk around the neighborhood,
just asking people if they need help with anything.
I would be a hustler.
You know, I'm still that right now.
And your uncle ran the cockfights? Yeah, yeah, my uncle ran the cockfights yeah yeah my uncle ran the cockfights a few of them actually and uh it's still a big thing in hawaii it's kind of a culture
thing and um i remember uh just to provide for myself clothes and for my for my my brothers we
were all teenagers already you know at this point and imagine having a bunch
of us in the house that's hard to keep up with you know financially so my mom and dad did what
they could they worked their butt off but uh obviously we we we won't we didn't have nice
clothes and um you know new shoes or we kind of had to fend for ourselves in that aspect
so i did my best and um you know, and I went to work right away.
Where did they work?
We all had summer gigs.
We all worked at Tamura's, the local grocery store, right in Waianae, Hawaii.
I remember a few times a couple of them came to the derbies with me and we worked the
derbies together. Your mom and dad. I'm sorry. Where did your mom and dad work? Where did your
mom and dad work? Oh, my bad. So my mom, you know, she's she's been working, you know, cooking
mostly. She does have a catering business now in vegas but she's been
cooking um you know for for a long time her whole life and my my stepdad who took care of us he uh
he's a tugboat captain so uh hey that's good and that's a good job, right? I mean, that's a great job. Yeah, that's a great job, for sure.
And this house, was there fighting in there with the kids?
Kids fighting, slapping, aggressive?
My boys are just, I have three little boys, and it's just always some boxing.
They're always organizing some sort of fight.
Like, hey, I bet you I can beat you up if You want to fight for these Legos? Shit like that.
Yeah, so growing up,
there was always gloves
in the garage. There was always,
you know, and we would go at it.
We would go at it. I remember one time
it was the Hawaiian hitman
and
he went to the beach
with my boogie board and fins, my body board and fins. And that went to the beach with my boogie board and fins,
my body board and fins.
And there was,
that was at the time that was my prize possession,
man.
Right.
I seen him coming home with it and I started beating him up for it.
You know,
I started beating him up and he grabbed a knife and he cut my board in
half.
And then I started beating his ass even more.
So, and then all my brothers was watching, and they all decided, you know what?
We had enough of you.
So they all jumped in.
So all of my brothers, every single one of them, they all jumped in, and they tried to get me.
They got me a couple times.
One came running on from the side.
Boom!
Got me.
I was like, oh.
And then karma served this person's purpose right away
because he tried to run away,
and he hit the rearview mirrors on the side of the car.
So good for him.
Jeremy, world, did Disney reach out to COA to play Maui in Moana?
No. Jeremy World, did Disney reach out to COA to play Maui in Moana? No, but they did reach out to my oldest daughter to audition.
Oh, no shit.
Yeah, that's a fun time right there.
Hey, what happened to your brother?
He got hit by a car after he punched you?
Oh, so, man, he kind of sidebar me cheap shot at me yeah when uh
when you know when i was beating up my other brother and uh he tried to run around the car
and then he got clotheslined by the mirror he got clotheslined but it was not just a regular mirror
it was one of them gmc vans it was the old school big gmc vans where the arm comes out like this
yeah you're like looking at the river mirrors right here It was the old school big GMC bands where the arm comes out like this. Yeah.
You're like looking at the River Mirrors right here.
I think I can find that.
That was the end of him.
Well, actually, no.
He got a little bit of adrenaline.
And I started chasing a bunch of them. I started chasing them all the way down the beach.
Yeah, there you go.
That's the one. That's the one.
Good find, Caleb.
There you go.
Hey, thanks for having my back, dog.
Everybody was mobbing me, bro.
And, you know, it was a really long run.
I remember chasing them for so long.
And, you know, it probably caught a few miles, at least a few miles, just chasing them all down the street.
And, you know, I ended up not even catching them.
But, you know, mom and dad came home and they told on me.
And, you know, I had to face the music.
Did you do any organized sports?
So I actually worked at a boxing gym, just, you know, kind of cleaning up.
So, but I didn't, I didn't have the support.
You know, I would, I could have, you know, went and I did training for a bunch of gyms,
MMA, boxing and all that that but it was really like kind
of like hey you want to train today and then the next day I will try to get back to where I was
and I either wouldn't have a ride or I had to do something else so it was never consistent with me
so um but the street fights was you know fighting on the streets in hawaii
was just a different different thing growing up in uh in the early 2000s it's a it's something
like second nature you know um even uh you know it's it's hard to get the fight out of people
from hawaii because when you come to the mainland they won't fight with you yeah I
mean people don't want to fight like how they fight in Hawaii and uh people just pull guns over
here so you know I'm trying to teach my kids just to just to defend themselves you know but um being
in Hawaii man it's it's it's uh growing up there it was a blessing blessing because I am where I am because of it.
What's the fighting about?
Just turf wars or just making a name for yourself?
What was the
fighting?
It was just, I think, honestly,
it was because of the weather.
Climate change.
The Hawaiians fight. No, I'm just joking.
Right. I mean, honestly,
I remember fighting somebody.
I remember fighting somebody at the park because they were just staring at me.
Yeah, I mean, oh, you're going to have a problem.
You know, I don't want to have a problem.
Like, scrap.
Scrap.
Boom.
We're fighting right there.
And would you know these people?
Were they locals?
Yeah.
Well, you know, the kind of culture that we have with fighting was
you know obviously you're gonna fight but after you fight you shake hands wow so and uh a lot of
the fighting was even at you know at the beach when you're at the beach and you want to catch a
wave you know the wave is forming you can see it coming yeah tell me like that you have to call
your wave first one to call the wave
gets the wave if you think you're the first one and you try to catch the wave when somebody already
called it mine then you you guys going to scrap you guys gonna fight for sure i mean i remember
road raids was always ended with some kind of fight um i remember back in high school you know kids will
fight and they you know shake hands and if it they really wanted to the parents will fight
and shake hands you know and uh you know that's kind of a culture thing because i never saw that
anywhere else you know i mean The parents would fight too.
Yeah, sometimes the parents would fight. I remember my dad took me to an ice cream man.
It's called Monopole Man back at home.
And this kid was making fun of my outfit
because I had the same clothes on for the whole summer.
And this kid was just making fun of me.
And my dad looked at me and he said,
are you going to let them talk shit?
Are you going to defend yourself?
So, like, right away, I just started throwing blows.
And then his dad came up, hey, what's going on?
And my dad was like, no, they're going to fight.
They're going to fight it out.
And, you know, my dad was like no they're gonna fight they're gonna fight it out and you know
my dad's kind of an alpha so the the dudes the the kid's dad was like nah hell no we're we're
no because his son was getting cracks i was giving his son cracks and my dad was like that's right
son keep going keep going until until he's done and uh the dad was like stop and i remember my dad going okay
our turn then so my dad and him will fight and then you know we'll all shake hands and then we
order something from the the ice cream man right after like nothing ever happened and just hang out
and eat ice cream together and just hang out holy. Holy shit, dude. I mean, live on the same street, you know what I mean?
Wow.
It was truly an experience growing up in Hawaii, the time I did.
I don't think it's like that now because now there's a lot of guns going around in Hawaii.
And a lot of people are really not wanting to anymore.
So I'm glad I grew up in that time.
I remember that when I lived in Santa Barbara in the Mexicans fight, they would do that.
So they would just go over there and they would fight in the yard.
And they would even kind of take turns punching each other.
They didn't just go berserk on each other.
Yeah, it was kind of like that.
Like they didn't just like go berserk on each other.
Yeah, it was, it was kind of like, that's, that's basically.
It was kind of dignified.
Not as, not as much as dignified, not as like much as you guys take turns in slap fighting,
but a dude would be like, go ahead, give it your best shot.
And he'd punch and he'd dodge him back.
Oh, my turn.
And then he would punch back and I'd be like, what the fuck is going on here?
Yeah, it was crazy. And then they'd walk away together and then they'd walk away together.
Yeah.
I have a beer, have a modelo.
Like, what's going on?
We're friends now.
I mean, one of my best friends right now to today,
the first time I ever had an interaction with him, we fought.
And that's what started the friendship.
That was the start of my friendship.
You're about six two six two
right now i'm probably like 380 oh so you've dropped some weight um i don't know when whenever
i get to having my opponent i kind of eat differently i drink more water i'm more cautious
of what what i eat but i still grind. I still pound food.
And you have a striking match on June 28th?
Yeah, June 28th at the Fontainebleau in Las Vegas.
And does Dana go to all those?
Absolutely.
He's right there.
I don't think he missed any of them.
That's his baby.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
It's pretty much, you know, it's all his.
How good does Dana look? He looked like a fucking tomato five years ago and he's looking good he looks like a fucking like now it looks like a fucking calvin klein model i know you see
him um i actually try i'm gonna try and get on that um that regimen when i start dropping weight
to to go after that heavyweight title.
And we'll get to that.
So, okay, so then you're in Hawaii.
And what about drugs?
I always hear like, hey, man, you raise your kids on the island,
you're going to get into the white powder.
Like there's just meth everywhere.
Like it's just like dodging bullets.
Is it really like that?
Yeah, so I have a personal relationship with that.
And also my dad, for 27 years of my life, he was just stuck on it.
He was just stuck on it.
He couldn't get away.
It was kind of holding him back and holding him down.
And he was gone for those years that he was doing that.
He was just gone. This is your real dad?
My biological dad.
that he was doing that he was just gone this is your this is your real dad my biological dad and um you know he's fully changed his life around now and um the time that you know he was gone
my stepdad kind of stepped in and uh took care of us and i told myself you know i would never do
that to my kids and blah blah blah and i um i despised him for a little bit because of it
and then i went through kind of a similar thing i went through a bad breakup and uh i was like
fuck it let's go try it let's go see what's what it's all about and um how old were you then koa
shoot i was already in my 26, 25, 26.
And you were still in Hawaii?
I was still in Hawaii.
And I dropped a lot of weight, probably 80 pounds doing it.
And I was addicted.
I was truly addicted to smoking meth.
So before you get to that, so did you start snorting it and then
smoke it?
My whole
family,
basically,
my cousins,
my uncles and aunties,
they just, they had it.
It was almost like too
easy to
go ahead and smoke again, even though I just threw away my pipe.
Oh, everyone in the family had access to it.
It was everywhere.
It was hard for me to get away from it.
Yep.
Hello?
You're breaking up.
Like the $6 million man. Oh, no. You're breaking up. Like the $6 million man.
Oh, no.
You're breaking up, Chief.
Can't hold her, Chief.
We're breaking up.
Do you know that show, Caleb?
Yeah, I was.
I was on the move.
Uh-oh, he's on the move.
I'm about to watch it now.
Look it, he's on the move.
Getting a better Wi-Fi.
Are we good now?
Are we good now?
We're better. Yeah, that's good. You. Getting a better Wi-Fi. Are we good now? Are we good now? We're better.
Yeah, that's good.
You were in a great spot.
It'll come back.
We were in a great spot.
Get comfortable.
I want you to be comfortable.
It'll come back.
You can't stand the whole show.
Yeah.
Are you standing?
No.
Okay, good.
Okay, hey, Koa, so go back to this.
So in 26, go through a bad breakup and when you
first start doing it do you snort it like i snorted it for like a month and i was like fuck
this shit's gonna kill me i never got to the smoking part oh i never i never did snort it
till later on but um i look how tiny your nostrils are that your nose isn't even made for doing drugs fucking weak ass nose no yeah so i smoked it and you know it it took over for a little bit you know
i didn't i stopped looking like myself i stopped acting like myself and uh it just kind of took
over and my mom called me one day and she cried she was like man come see me and that was the first you know time i i said all
right i'm gonna i'm gonna leave hawaii so uh i left how many years did you do it not not even a
year um but it was everywhere at the time like you had family members doing it you couldn't get away
from it you'd be like i'm gonna quit and then you go over to friends or your uncle's house and you'd
smoke some yeah that's exactly how everything will pan out just like that how did it get how does it get on the island is it made there um 100 i know it's
made over here uh okay over there for sure and is the law enforcement they're protecting the
business are they in the business is that why it survives um honestly it's everywhere you know it's
inside of the prisons it's it's you know people you wouldn't think that do it's everywhere you know it's inside of the prisons it's it's you know people you
wouldn't think that do it do it you know and um you know it's it's kind of a hard thing like um
you know it took over my life i lost everything you know and when i when i got to vegas um is that
why you came to vegas you were like fuck fuck this, I got to get away from here
or else I'm going to die doing this shit?
I smoked all the way from the west side of the island
all the way to the airport.
I got on the plane and I stayed up the whole way.
I got off the plane and I was still high.
Yeah.
And my mom looked at me, took one good look
and she just started crying praying
and uh that was it you know um i ended up going to vegas doing a whole bunch of coke
so like it went from meth to coke and then um i met my fiance and she kind of
changed my life you know it uh it was something that needed to happen with me
um i'm truly the crazy hawaiian because uh i need to be chaperoned i think honestly i as even as an
adult i need to be chaperoned well so it was kind of it was her judgment that got you to quit
no it was uh i was overdoing everything you know i, I, I, I was doing X, I was doing Molly's, I was doing every kind of drug that Vegas would provide.
Cause I didn't, I just didn't want to go back to meth.
Um, and.
You didn't die from fentanyl.
Yeah.
Well, I, I almost overdosed once in a, in the car and she was there. She helped me.
Did you have to get Narcan,
Koa? No, I did not get
Narcan. I got
thrown in the shower.
She just sat
there for days with me
just trying to get
it out of my system.
After that,
I told her, man, you saved my life you know
we wasn't even together like that she's just a friend and she saved my life so um and she was
hot she was hot i was like yeah right all right bet you know i i think i can do this
hey did you have to did you have to go to aa or anything or 12-step or did you have to find God?
It was God.
It was God.
It was all God because whenever I kind of almost went out, I came and it was like spiritual enlightenment with me.
I don't know what I saw.
You know what I mean?
I don't even, I can't even explain what it was.
But it told me that, I remember that it was just a light.
And it told me that you're staring far away from me into the darkness.
And I just, I knew already.
I knew what it was.
It was all God.
And he let me come back to this world.
And I told myself, man, there are people here that really love me.
And I felt that the reason why I went to drugs, because, you know,
obviously the bad breakup happened.
I turned to drugs and at the
time i was distancing myself from everybody you know so i truly felt like i wasn't loved
from other people i truly felt like i wasn't needed nobody needed me you know and um
i was like nah you know no one would miss me. No one's going to miss this guy.
You know what I mean?
And something told me that you're staring away from me.
And that's not how I want to, you know, if that's what I see when I freaking die, I don't want to have to answer to that again.
have to answer to that again.
You know, so my happy ass went to church
and I
reconnected and
now I give him
everything. I give him everything.
Everything I have today,
possession-wise, I don't want it. I don't need it.
But I have it.
You know, my God's great.
He's the best.
You know, he's
the number one in my life above all.
And that's how it should be.
Do you think that the old Koa died?
Honestly, because, you know, I started introducing myself as Koa after that incident.
Do you know why?
Do you know why?
My first name was Lane.
And my whole growing up in Hawaii, people knew me by Lane because of my first name.
People knew Lane did drugs.
Lane beat up people.
Lane robbed people. Lane did some bad things. Lane beat up people. Lane robbed people.
Lane did some bad things, you know, stole from people.
And after that incident, I started introducing myself as Koa
because I wanted to be truly somebody new.
It was almost cringy when the people that knew me as Lane,
not necessarily right now for the new people,
but the people that knew me and they call me, hey, Lane.
Like, I remember the bad things that I did towards them.
And I kind of just, you know, it's almost cringy, you know,
because I was a bad person.
Who came up with Koa?
So Koa is the last part of my middle name.
My middle name is actually Ka'ililao Okekoa.
So, I just took the last three letters on my middle name and ran with it.
And told people my name was Koa.
Because, you know, I don't know.
I feel like Koa is a great name.
because, you know, I don't know.
I feel like Cole is a great name.
Jay Wade, I've never heard of this fellow, but mad love for you, buddy.
Felicia, he's a giant man.
Kim Walters, amen, brother.
Matt Day, preach.
Sir.
People love a fucking story like that.
Damn, it's a great story.
And then so then what's your wife's name malia malia and she's not hawaiian right no she's not hawaiian
but she has a hawaiian name yeah that's a trip did you rename her no i was like hey who named you
she's like oh my mom uh and i was like, you know, that's an Hawaiian name.
And she's like, all right, yeah, well, it's fitting.
Is that proud of Pond?
I got lucky.
I got lucky.
No, well, actually, if you spell it wrong, you know what I mean?
You can pronounce it wrong all you want.
But if you spell it wrong, then that's where people start like you know oh
like if you don't
spell it the Hawaiian way
yeah if you don't spell it the Hawaiian way and you try to make up your own
you know
Hawaiian people really frown upon that
you know because we like our
original stuff and we don't like our
stuff being altered and disrespected like that
but uh
what about you being with the
girl who's not hawaiian are your parents pissed no actually they're not they're they're just happy
that i'm happy yeah good um i've been with hawaiian girls and it's crazy they're like
almost like mexican girls yeah i feel like they can cook yeah Yeah. They are Mexican girls. They just live on the island.
Right, right, right.
I have my fair share of these Hawaiian girls.
And I just felt like I found my soulmate.
You know, I really did.
And I don't really believe in that.
But the more and more I am with her, it's more prominent that this is the person that God made for me.
Do you have any thoughts? How old are you? You're 34?
34 now, yeah, 34.
Have you had any thoughts on the importance of having, if you want to be a great man, the kind of woman a great man needs?
Yeah, it's, it's, I started becoming the man that I am now because of it, you know, because God put her in my life and she's supports me with whatever I get into. But also she, she tells me about the importance of God in my life you know we
we get up we read read our word together we go to bed we read our word together
and nothing can stop us you know a lot of people a lot of demons come in and
they see how good this really is for me you spiritually. I can tell right now the devil
is always on attack.
If you just
listen to him, all you have to do is listen.
Then you're going to want to
fight back. I don't even listen
to the guy. All I hear is
rum, rum, rum, rum, rum, rum.
I heard you say something today.
I'm going to tell you the truth here. I was going to steal the
quote like it was my own. I was going to put it on my Instagram, but I was too lazy. I heard you say something today. I'm going to tell you the truth here. And I was going to steal the quote like it was my own.
And I was going to put it on my Instagram, but I was too lazy.
I heard you say in a podcast, remember when I think it was you said this.
Remember when you shine bright, you cast a big shadow.
Yeah.
And I was like, damn, that's some good shit.
Yeah.
And in those shadows, there's some shit lurking.
Oh, yeah.
And you just got to keep looking at that light.
You just got to keep looking at it.
And there's always going to be devils in that shadow. There's always going to be demons talking, telling you that you ain't the one, telling you that you're not enough, that you're inadequate, that you don't belong.
And that's if you, you know, all you got to do is turn your head a little bit and just
listen.
You're going to listen.
It's easy to hear the demons.
You know, it's hard.
It's hard to find peace and serenity without God.
So, you know, that's that's where that's where I I use this platform for it.
You know, everyone needs to know that God is that guy.
You know, we think that we're all badass and tough
until we really see the guy, you know.
And, you know, one thing that helps me too with this is DMT.
Ha-ha, DMT.
That's what really helps me a lot.
I kind of do it once a month
I reset
And that was the first time I said it on a podcast
I don't know
I did a whole bunch of podcasts
And I'm just running out of things to say
About my life
Do you do it solo?
Do you go solo?
So the way I do it
You need somebody there to help you You can't do it well you can do it
you can try to do it properly and break through but i've tried myself and i truly need help
because i'm a big lungs and you know i take the first hit my motor skills are already gone and
you need a second hit you need that second hit to to to
kind of just catapult you into you know these other dimensions and you get to talking um you
get to that knowledge that you don't even know you get answers that you don't even understand
you get um these you see these languages and these patterns like you know it's some ancient
languages and i understand them while know it's some ancient languages.
And I understand them while I'm there, but when I come back, I don't even know what they were.
And you found someone safe where it's a...
I make it myself.
You make it yourself?
I make it myself.
I did my research, and I was going to do the bullfrog way, the river frog.
But they're unpredictable.
You need to baby them.
You need to make sure that they're happy.
And exactly when you're extracting these.
You own the frogs?
You own the frogs?
I did at one point.
Frogs? You own the frogs?
I did at one point, but by experience, I figured out that these frogs really needed to be taken care of really well.
If not, you get frogs that are frightened to be extracted
and have anxiety about somebody extracting stuff like that from them.
And when you go ahead and do the product
you get that you get that scared like a frightening feeling you get that anxiety that comes out of the
frogs so i started doing i started cooking it myself with uh these roots from hawaii and um
it's it's real simple and easy it's a way way easier and it's cleaner and you can kind of guide your way through, um, these trips, um, these breakthroughs that, uh, spiritual breakthroughs that, that happen. I do also microdose and I'm a super spiritual
dude
now it's
a part of my life
with these positive
energy
I studied the chakra
I do yoga now
it's different
I'm at peace, I'm at zen
there's nothing that really can get to me or bother me. It's just myself. If I let myself get bothered by something, then yeah, I'm going to let myself get bothered by it. But it's hard to get lame to come out and be the patient person that I once was.
person that I once was.
I want to go back to this thing about women and then I'll come back to this.
I saw on Instagram somewhere a woman said that she was talking to women.
She said, hey, if you want a king, treat men like kings.
And that and then I started thinking about the way my wife treats me. And it's like I live up to I I live up to the man that.
That not even so much that she wants me to be but the space she
gives me to be she gives me the space to be big that's what's up you know what i mean she gives
me the space to like you know a lot of people dim their light you don't dim your light yeah you know
like you have a waitress you like i had a waitress the other night at the restaurant she dims her
life she's like hi how are you guys and i could see she's dimming her light and it's like you
don't have under the guise of being nice you don't have to do that you can be nice and you still don't
have to dim your light and i have this woman who like just doesn't she doesn't restrict my
big as i want to go she'll be like okay she'll blow on the fire for me you know what i mean that's a blessing
that's that's exactly what um what i have to today and i i'm so happy when men find that person
because that person can really catapult you from being that shy guy not knowing what you're gonna
do for life and then you have this person that encourages you to do great things.
Right.
Not even just for the people around me to just point to my heart
and tell me to be a good person.
Yeah.
That right there.
Another thing that my wife does, tells me to be a good person.
Not even white lies.
Not even little lies.
Even when you get off the phone with someone, don't even lie.
Just be like, hey, I'm done talking to you not oh my kids are calling
nothing yeah just be you yeah but but i think a lot of women give put pressure on their husbands
and they don't need pressure they need a patient woman who gives him space yeah to to like like
like i don't like being told what to do so my wife gives me space And kind of guides me
Gives me space
Also if there's any women
Watching
A good thing that my wife does
Is she never does
Talk quickly
Right when I finish saying something
It's almost like she's anxious and waiting for
the next thing that comes out of my mouth because it is truly a blessing to, you know, a lot of us
guys, we talk and then we get a big thought and we do have to cipher it out sometimes and we have to think about it before we
say and a lot of people a lot of a lot of other people just start talking over it and now we just
lost our train of thought and something that we were going to say that would have been very
important and uh it's it's the listening that helps build your relationship.
You guys
got to talk about everything and everything.
A lot of men don't want to talk
and
you just have to. You have to talk
about the things that you
don't want to talk about.
And I know men
are impatient with that and
women like to cut us off.
So let's just be more patient as men and women.
Just let, let the man, uh, kind of say what he see his paragraph with his periods at the end.
And if you need something to do with your hands, we'll always take a standee.
Okay.
Uh, is seven acting weird?
I don't know.
Not anymore.
Weird.
Oh yeah.
Thank you.
Bernie Gannon. Not any more than usual. Thank you. Uh, Not anymore weird. Oh, yeah. Thank you. Bernie Gannon, not any more than usual.
Thank you.
Bernie.
Yeah, good.
Thank you.
Yeah.
What the fuck am I acting weird?
I'm always weird.
What are you talking about?
Okay.
So you go to Vegas.
You're with this chick.
You have this reawakening.
You get on the straight and narrow.
And Koa is now on the scene in Vegas and how old
are you there?
I'm like
27
28
and 29 those
years that is that when I
was in Vegas and I was a resident
in Vegas. Wait Koa
you have a 15 year old?
Yes.
Let me do the math on that.
Hold on a second.
A 34 minus five would make you,
um,
uh,
29 minus 10 would be 19.
You had a kid when you were 19,
19,
right out of high school.
I had a kid and,
um,
I,
I had to go right to work.
You know,
obviously I tried to, my dad, my You know, obviously, I tried to.
My stepdad's a tugboat captain, and he makes good money.
So I actually tried to go to this school.
It's in Oregon.
It's in Astoria, Oregon.
It's called Tongue Point.
Oregon. It's called Tongue Point. And they breed these just phenomenal people that work on these boats. And I went to the school. I did all the paperwork. I was top of my class in anything that
we did. And come to find out, I don't have any sea legs. For a Hawaiian, I don't have any sea legs.
Oh. You get on the boat and get nauseous. come to find out I don't have any sea legs. For a Hawaiian, I don't have any sea legs.
Oh.
You get on the boat and get nauseous.
Bad.
It was bad because every Wednesday we would have to go out and they would be all hands on deck.
Everyone had to go outside.
If you go and you know what the Columbian River is about,
it goes out to the ocean,
columbian river is about it it goes out to the ocean and that's one of the roughest places where you you the river goes into the ocean and you just yeah it's crazy there i've been there a
handful of times and watch that shit all the logs and the the currents and it's fucking nuts i've
been there in a storm yeah it's not in a boat just watching it from the side it's crazy and uh i
wasn't able to do it i wasn't able to do it and uh i came back to hawaii and i just started working
in construction i did road work um working and busting my ass doing asphalt work and concrete
work and then uh you know i got into you know a bad period where my relationship was
going to shit and um i decided to go do drugs there you go paint lines on the road is that
for painting lines yeah that was a whole parking lot that i i used to i used to have my striking
striping company um and uh we did we did that kind of work right there you know
okay so then you're in hawaii and and you're with uh malia well actually no um i'm sorry you're in
vegas you're in vegas and you're with malia sorry yeah i'm vegas and with malia and uh you know
in the beginning of being with her i was selling a whole bunch of drugs you know
i was selling coke and all that doing the dumbest shit and um she finally said jail did you ever go
to jail not no i was slicker than rick okay yeah i never went i never got caught so you know um
i'm thankful and i'm i'm glad that that that's not what came out of it.
I was a lot more cautious and my head was on a swivel.
So I never got, I never got caught.
But people try to rob me, you know, people try to rob me.
And, you know, obviously me being who who i am i didn't just get robbed um
i left the dude basically fighting for his life and um that was a big you know
a big eye-opener for me too was hey man you're gonna keep doing, you're going to keep doing this. You're going to hurt somebody. You're really going to hurt somebody.
And I decided to just cold turkey, stop selling stuff, and go back to work.
So I went back to work, quit the club life in Vegas, and I just went back to what I know was working hard and busting my ass in construction.
Yeah, I've had a couple of friends get out of the,
they went from weed to Coke and then they started being too many guns around
and they're like,
all right,
I'm out of here.
Yeah.
That's what happened.
I got my first gun pointed at me ever in my whole life in Vegas,
trying to serve somebody.
And I fear very little.
I fear God and heights.
But I was very scared when that gun was pointed at me.
I didn't know what to do.
So when that happened, I was just, I told Malia, I said, you know what? I'm going to go back to the union. I'm going to go back to said you know what I'm gonna go back to to the
union I'm gonna go back to the union I'm gonna go back to work I'd rather be safe and I'd rather
know that I'm gonna come home you know so I decided to go back to the union and I was working
construction and then I we moved over here from Vegas.
We actually...
Oh, to Missouri.
Did you...
Oh, and did you move from Vegas to Missouri because of the violence?
Because it was getting too violent?
So Malia and her parents were already planning on moving out of Vegas.
They were there for 20-something years.
They were already planning to move out.
They were just kind of sick of it already.
something years, they are already planning to move out.
They were just kind of sick of it already.
So me being me, I just kind of went with it.
I said, all right, yeah, I ruined most of my bridges that I've created here.
And people started, you know, robbing me or trying to.
And I decided, you know what, this is a good, you know, reset, so I never went anywhere else other than Oregon and Vegas, I was like, you know what, let's go, and I shit you not, the first day,
we ended up stopping in Albuquerque, New Mexico at a Red Roof Inn, and I had one of the biggest U-Hauls, a trailer with a truck on it,
and then all my dirt bikes on the truck.
And we stopped at this red roof inn, and there's people in the parking lot,
and I said, hey, if my stuff is here in the morning,
I'll give you guys some money.
So I woke up the next morning.
Some of my things were missing.
give you guys some money.
So I woke up the next morning.
Some of my things were missing.
And the dude said, hey, you know, he had his handout,
like I was supposed to pay him.
I said, were you here all night?
You know, were you watching?
He was like, yeah, yeah, I was here all night.
I said, well, some stuff is missing. So you can go, you can go, you can go
twiddle your fingers over there.
I ain't going to give you anything.
And the dude got mad.
He got mad.
He threw a padlock at me, one of them big padlocks.
And he missed.
He was too big to throw a padlock at.
He missed.
And I grabbed the padlock, and I threw it back at him and hit him.
And he bust out a knife and a screwdriver.
Wow.
Yep, in Albuquerque, New Mexico. And my family was behind me. And he bust out a knife and a screwdriver. Wow. Yep.
In Albuquerque, New Mexico.
And my family was behind me.
And if I got my family behind me, I don't care what you have.
You better kill me to go touch my family.
The dude said, I'm going to go cut your whole family up right now.
All right, bet.
So we scuffled a little bit. i did a leg kick to his knee
busted his knee started limping and he had a screwdriver and a knife in the hand and uh i went
to you know get double under hooks and and i ended up grabbing his jacket pulling his jacket over his head to cover his
vision and um get wrist control for both wrists that that and that little scuffle he stabbed me
on the top of my head and um as soon as i saw blood dripping down my eye, I blacked out. I don't remember what happened.
All I remember was the story that was told to me was I choked him out.
And it took a while, I guess.
It took a few minutes for me to choke him out.
He ended up passing out.
I rolled him over onto his back, and he had a backpack on.
So his head was like
a little bit above the ground i started throwing unanswered elbows to the head and i'm talking
about left elbow right elbow like on and on and on and my my uh father-in-law said hey do you
don't kill this guy and uh that's when I came to,
and I remember looking at my stepdad,
I mean, my father-in-law,
and I remember walking back to our hotel room,
going to the hotel sink,
trying to wash off this blood on me,
and then, you know, cops pull up,
and the cops are like, oh you all right and i was like yeah
i'm good we're gonna leave he said no you you gotta see the ambulance and uh so that they they
took me to an ambulance they took me to the whole hospital i got stitches and um uh the police
officer that took my statement said uh that i busted his orbital bone right here into his skull.
And his nose is broken and all his top teeth were missing.
Damn.
Yeah, and I still have scars on my elbows from his teeth.
Did he stab you with the screwdriver or the knife?
The knife. He stabbed me right on the head or the knife the knife he shot me right on the
head with the knife do you have a scar yeah i do have a scar i don't know it's somewhere i don't
know if you can see the scar right now i'm kind of dark but uh you can see you can definitely see
if you look up close and uh there is a post you know somewhere on my social media about it um
but for sure uh that was kind of like all right dude i gotta stop you know, somewhere on my social media about it. Um, but for sure, uh, that was kind of like a,
all right, dude, I gotta stop. You know, I gotta stop. I just gotta be a normal person and go to
go to work. And so when you say you blacked out, you blacked out, like you saw so much rage.
It's not that you blacked out, you fainted. You just went, just saw red and went blue.
I saw red. And, um, uh and I guess I choked the dude out.
And then I started giving him unanswered elbows to the face while he was passed out.
And all I remember in that situation was my father-in-law saying, hey, don't kill the dude.
That's the setup right there.
That's what it was.
Hey, that's what, you know, I was filming in Africa once,
and I came across this pile of trees, huge pile of dead trees.
And the guy goes, hey, you know what's there?
And I said, what?
And he said, a lady carrying a bucket of water and her head rolled up on an elephant.
He said it picked her up, and the elephant was with its baby and the elephant picked her up beat her to death you know
like in two seconds picked her up and beat her on the ground but it's not enough even after she's
dead the elephant pushes trees on top of her so she never escapes even though she's dead already
that's like some elephant shit you were doing someone threatened your family and you're like
all right you're not like you can't be on the planet with me you know what i mean it's like some inefficient shit you were doing. Someone threatened your family and you're like, you can't be on the planet with me.
You know what I mean? It's like that.
That's exactly what it was
because when I saw
that I was bleeding,
I knew, okay, if I'm bleeding this bad,
this...
And the head bleeds bad sometimes. The head can bleed bad.
Oh, dude. I was bleeding.
There was blood everywhere. It was bleeding it was there was blood
everywhere it was just ridiculous the amount of blood that that i actually fucking had
coming out of me and what kind of psychopath would try to engage you
oh somebody that was waiting all night probably sold a few things from the back of the truck
but you're too big to engage you know what mean? Like you have to like assess the situation.
You have to be like,
okay,
you're too,
this guy's too big to engage in a fight.
Oh yeah,
for sure.
Um,
I,
I,
I just know that,
um,
he was really expecting to get paid something.
Right.
So had you done any slap fighting up to this point?
This point?
No,
I've not done any slap fighting. to this point? This point, no. I've not done any slap fighting.
So we ended up in Springfield, Missouri, and I'm working in a union, construction.
I'm working on a mill machine, and we take a lunch break, and I go on Facebook,
and I find this ad that says, do you think you can slap?
And I answered that.
Were you using an Android?
Cole, were you using an Android?
I was.
And now you're an iPhone guy.
How do you know that?
I'm just saying you were slumming it and now you're a baller.
I know the routine.
Construction site, Hawaiian boy,
droid motherfucker.
Power slap, super heavyweight champion of the world, iPhone.
Yeah, bro.
Okay.
Okay.
So you're sitting there.
Feel exposed.
On your droid.
Sorry to call you out.
No, you're good.
You're good.
You're on your droid.
And you're on your droid on Facebook and you see can you slap yeah i see
can you slap and uh you know before i seen this before this even popped up when i was working
construction i watched youtube and i watched the dumpling and i and i and i was pissed off because this dude was knocking guys out that was half his size.
And I was like, man, if I ever get a chance, bro, fuck this guy.
I'm going to mess him right up.
Who is he?
Tell me.
I want to find this dude.
It's Vasily Kamatsky.
His nickname is The Dumpling.
And it's full circle because he's going to be making his Power Slap debut on the 28th.
Oh, I found him, Caleb.
Did you find him?
I'll put it in the private chat.
Sorry, say that again.
Sorry to interrupt, Koa.
Say that again.
When's he making his debut?
Yeah, he's making his debut.
That's the dude.
He's making his debut in Power Slap on this specific event he's actually
already in vegas they're uh kind of grooming him to become somebody great um he has his credentials
and accolades is a lot more than mine um knowing what he did for the sport in russia and in poland
and all the things that he he uh he's somebody that I was really looking forward to,
you know,
getting to go up against.
So,
so you saw a picture of this dude in the,
this is the one I watched this one.
And I was thinking,
dude,
this guy is too damn big for,
to be hitting these guys that are just that small. And that's when I was thinking, dude, this guy is too damn big to be hitting these guys that are just that small.
And that's when I was like, no, you know what?
If I ever get the chance to do it, I'll do it.
But I'll make sure that I'm not going up against somebody that small.
So when I saw that ad, I was like, hell yeah.
I messaged the dude.
And I remember telling him like I'm gonna be
the champ
I'm that guy
and he said yeah come down
we have an event so that
Friday I went
to an event and
I showed up and no one
wanted to go up against me
absolutely no one
and I was just over there like hey guys
the best western or red robin or wherever he should have fucking thought that yeah i did and
and um i i couldn't get a uh a slap fight at the time i couldn't get one a slap bout so i come i
came back the next event and that's when i did my first ever bout with Hillbilly Hippie.
And that was the guy in the overalls with the John Deere fit.
And tell me about the sport back then as I've been digging into it.
So now it's limited to each guy can only hit the other guy three times, right?
So three times, unless you flinch, unless you flinch in the,
in the round,
they,
they,
uh,
give you an option to strike again.
They give,
they give the,
you can take the,
so if I,
if you go to hit me and I flinch,
I can choose to let you hit me again to get rid of the penalty.
No,
the striker actually chooses to,
you can deduct a point or you can get,
you can slap the dude again.
Why wouldn't you slap him again?
What's the conventional wisdom? Hit him again?
Everyone. I don't think anyone
got the
points deducted. I don't
think anyone was
that confident enough
to say, alright, I might not knock this
guy out, but I'm going to win in points.
If someone flinches to you, you always take the extra slap?
Oh, 100%. I'll take the extra slap, 100%.
Okay, and then there's a link.
Maybe I'll pull it up.
I think I have better internet than you today, Mr. Beaver.
Let me see.
So that's the way it is now,
but when you fought this guy that I'm about to show,
you fought him for free, and it was unlimited rounds in this?
Yeah, unlimited rounds.
We had the record for I don't know how long, maybe a year,
of going to 21 rounds.
And this was my very first one.
And the hillbilly hippie, me and him found each other on social media
and started talking shit.
And I'm talking about real shit,
not the shit that Slap for Cash does to people nowadays,
not that stage shit.
I'm talking about bad words we're exchanging.
Our wives were talking crap about each other as well.
Hey, so that was the 21st time you hit him no so they actually cut the video into one long version
and one short version when he fell into the crowd that was the sixth round and he got back up they
sit him down they got water they they did i don't know so he had longer than it so if this
was power slap he would have been toast yeah it was power slap the most rounds would have been
three and if it's a championship round it would have been five but also he's down so long that
he would have never got back in time right no yeah they they don't in in slap fight championships they don't believe in a 10 count
damn dude that you he fell on his face dude yeah he fell on his face into the crowd and um
that that went viral um real fast did you did you get knocked out during the fight not at all i i've never been uh slept
or dropped um i but i did get dropped once from uh zales and that's in your did is that the video
i saw where your head hits the table on the way down or did you well actually um it like i didn't hit the table it like just barely
missed it barely missed it damn and and now you're the super heavyweight champion of power slap
yes sir yes sir there you go you know full circle um you know this i i i did a slap fight championship for five bouts,
and I decided to go and do my own thing.
Is that what I was watching?
That was the slap fight league?
Yep.
Okay.
With the Hillbilly Hippie.
Okay.
Here in Branson, Missouri.
And I did five events, and I wasn't paid.
So I decided to go do my own thing.
I competed in every single promotion
in the United States that was ever to do with slapping. And then I ended up finding a, uh,
a investor, a promoter, and I kind of took everything into my own hands. I, um, promoted my
own, um, my business was called uh chin check slap down and we held
we held events everywhere apostle texas florida um columbus ohio uh cali a few times um atalanto
california how did you get insurance for that shit we did not have insurance sir it was kind of like the just straight gangster
just gangster hey and i would use my own like hey you know i do the the slapping things and a lot
of people was asking me how i how do i get into it how do i get into it? How do I get into it? And a lot of white people was really wanting to join.
So what I did was I just told him straight up.
I said, hey, you want to do this?
I'll pay you five grand to come in and slap.
There's no win prizes.
I'll pay for your ticket, pay for your hotel, pay you five grand, and you can go viral.
And a lot of guys came to, my brother came to,
and I had this group of guys that was ready to put on a show
wherever and whenever.
And then tell me the story.
So basically you went from slap fighter,
a striker, slap striker, to promoter.
You had essentially retired right power slap came around
and you consulted to them you were like hey these are the rules and you started again consulting
can you tell me that journey about and then how you got like back in the game again can you tell
me like you get a call one day from the ufc or from dana or what what happens or from yeah i get a call from uh from from frank this uh gary defranco
the producer for the ultimate fighter and um and that's pilgrim films that's pilgrim pilgrim
um i believe so i'm not 100 sure um okay gary defranco he was just he worked with uh with everybody um and he wanted to
basically recruit me to help them start powerslap and um you know i gave them the rules gave them
you know what i was paying these dudes and uh is it cheese dick hollywood guys like is it is it
like a greasy veneer on them when they talk to you or is it cool no yeah it's straight they're straight up they're cool there's no uh you know
there's no it's not the la vibe no yeah it's not the la vibe it's not like they're not feeding me
a whole bunch of dreams and it's it's a kind of a straight up thing you know hey we're doing this
you you're helping become a sport and that's
it you know obviously i have to prove myself i have to still get knockouts um by these you know
with these other guys that they bring in um just to kind of prove myself you know i mean it's uh
it's it's one thing to go viral did a couple of events happen before you threw your ring in the
hat like were they bringing you
out and being like hey koa can you just watch these or make sure what do you think about this
table or these rules and and then you're like fuck it i'm in well what happened was uh um
logan paul and solomon ingo from uh fromal, they had a bidding war, essentially.
They had a bidding war.
And I went with Solomon Ingle and Logan Paul with Fan Meal.
And I decided to go ahead and participate and become their champion.
Cause I was just really on a,
on a path to destroy anybody that,
that,
that thought that they,
that they could.
And sorry,
sorry.
Let me see.
So Logan,
Paul,
and then power slap,
which is Dana white's thing.
They were both courting you to come to fight with their new leagues,
and you went to Logan Paul's fighting league, striking league.
Right.
I went to Logan Paul's, and a lot of people don't know this.
The only reason why I went to them, because the money was the same.
They were all offering the same kind of money.
They promised me the
dumpling.
Oh, shit.
That's what happened.
And then in return, I got
Zales, which is
the guy that beat
dumpling.
I ended up getting Zales instead.
Wow.
Damn.
Wow. Fascinating then and then is that league still around um absolutely absolutely they're still around they actually just did a show in abu dhabi
yeah that's the show um they just did a show in abu dhabi and yeah these are the guys right here
these these this is the guys that really is are the guys right here. This is the
guys that really started it. Is that the dumpling
right there in the orange? That is a dumpling
in the orange, yep.
Fuck, he is a dumpling.
They just did a show in Abu Dhabi.
They just did a show in
Abu Dhabi. I didn't
watch it or anything like that. I just know that there was a show in Abu Dhabi I didn't watch it or anything like that
I just know that
There was a show
Oh look
Here's the dumpling picking on a little guy again
Yeah picking on a little guy
That's what he does best
Is he going to be at the show
In Vegas
He's going to compete
So you're going to see him there I'm going to be at the show in Vegas? He's going to compete.
So you're going to see him there?
I'm going to see him there.
He's going to compete.
And if he wins, I'm going to call him out.
And who are you striking with there?
I'm striking with the number four seed in the rank. His name is Danny Van Heerding, the pit bull.
And have you gone against him before?
No,
I have not.
He's kind of new in the sport.
He's a formidable opponent.
I can say that.
He's done
striking before. He's done boxing, all that kind of stuff.
So I'm not just going up against somebody that, hey, I think I can slap.
I'm going up against somebody that was collecting belts in combat sports.
Say that you're not or you are.
No, I'm sorry. You say that you're not or you are?
No, I'm sorry.
I am now finally getting an opponent that has belts in striking and boxing and all that.
Hey, do you have to go to the bathroom?
Who, me? No.
Okay, good. Okay, good.
Hate to keep someone on so long.
Okay, how are you on time?
You good for a few more? Yeah, I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. good. Hate to keep someone on so long. Okay, how are you on time? You good for a few more?
Yeah, I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay. I know it's late there.
And so it's determined who goes first.
You flip a coin and whoever wins gets to go first.
Yeah, for sure.
And is there ever a time where you would choose not to go first?
I remember somebody did that once, but that's just ridiculous.
It's just stupid.
Yeah, it's just stupid.
Because for the obvious reasons, you could get knocked out on the first hit.
Go ahead.
No, yeah, 100%.
That's where you give up.
A lot of people
that get
to win the coin toss state,
most of them, 99% of them them choose to go and slap first i'm slapping first i ain't taking no chances right when you slap
what percentage of the slaps are you like oh that was that was a perfect connection
are there are there a hand is it like 50 50 Like there's ones you're like, ooh, I only got 80% bite on that
or I only got 60% bite on that.
So actually, that's one thing that I kind of visualize
is my accuracy.
I make sure, you know, I practice my accuracy
like on point, you know.
So now I'm hitting people and I'm getting them exactly where I need to get them.
And, you know, some people just got it in them to stand up again.
Some people just got it in them to take a hit and then just stand it, you know.
You do get these feelings of the flash knockouts,
and it's like, wow.
This is surprising.
You've been hit so hard that you're like,
holy shit, I can't believe I'm still here.
Yeah.
There's a bunch of them like that.
I'm like, wow, that's a good slap.
It's kind of like a hard to find button on people.
You kind of just have to have that velocity, man.
You have to have that speed.
And you hit with both right and left handed, right, Koa?
Both right and left, for sure.
And why?
Why do you do both um i just i just want to
be known as that guy with knockouts in both hands full arsenal yeah full arsenal you know i'm um
i i i want to do this for a long time i know know it's not going to happen, you know, but who knows?
Somebody has to be the greatest.
Yeah.
Crazy, dude.
And one more thing I just have to ask you because I have UFC fighters on.
And you were in a classroom, you were in algebra,
you were pre-algebra or algebra two or something with Max Holloway?
Yeah.
I was a senior in high school.
And the only other thing that I needed to graduate was pre-algebra.
I did algebra one, two, and geometry.
And I don't know how my school didn't give me pre-algebra.
And he was in the class and you guys had a little exchange?
Yeah.
So, you know, I was obviously the teacher's pet um i knew how to do everything that he was teaching already um and you know
collecting everyone's papers and i was the jokester in the class and a lot of these kids really did
need to learn this and uh i didn't you know and I was just in there fucking around talking shit.
And I remember Max telling me to shut the hell up.
Was he tiny compared to you?
Yeah.
Yeah.
He was definitely very tiny.
Like half your size.
Yeah.
Like half my size.
Probably still half your size.
Yeah.
Now he's one third your size.
Yeah. For sure. Yeah, now he's one-third your size. Yeah.
For sure, yeah.
He was definitely that guy.
And, you know, I feel like if we did do, you know,
any kind of physical altercation, he was already training at the time.
I wasn't.
You know what I mean?
So who knows what happened.
But that was one incident with Max Holloway that happened.
We didn't have a personal relationship.
I didn't go and train with him.
I didn't have a friendship with him.
We just went to the same school.
Crazy.
And I'm sure one day your paths will cross and you guys will fucking be thick as thieves, man.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, he comes across like such a great guy, and you're such a great guy.
So June 28th, and anyone can watch live on Rumble.
Anyone can watch live and free on Rumble.
Yeah.
Hey, dude, I really appreciate you coming on.
What a – I mean, you surpassed – I was so – I did a podcast this morning live,
and I was telling – I was so excited for you to come on.
I've been so excited.
I told my wife, I'm like, fuck, this one's going to be great.
I'm so excited.
And you didn't let me down at all, buddy.
I appreciate you guys.
Thank you guys for holding up, holding down the fort while I was over here doing daddy duties.
Oh, anytime.
And, you know, watch out, man.
This knockout's going to be for you guys, bro.
Ko, if you're ever in California uh please don't hesitate to text or
call i'm here in santa cruz by the beach i have some great sponsors who have nice places on the
beach in newport you're always welcome i'd love to hang with you in person you're a great dude man
let's do it man let's do it i'm i'm down i love i love cali i really do so uh i'll take you up on
that one day brother and i don't have your numbers. So God bless you guys.
And stay crazy.
Yes, and thank you for sharing your story, dude.
Always.
Thank you so much for sharing your story.
What a great story.
It's a blessing to even have somebody that is willing to listen.
Love you, dude.
Have a good one.
Much love, guys.
Much love.
Thanks, Koa.
Bye, Koa.
Peace.
Sweating like a pig in here.
What a cool fucking guy.
I like him a lot.
God damn, I'm so stoked.
Yeah, he's so cool.
He's so nice.
And he'll slap the shit out of you man he's on a journey huh
34
he's such a he's like
already done so much
still a kid
yeah still a kid
alright
Sevan when he visits take around uh all the people who uh
bully you uh no one bullies me but yeah if i fight if anyone does
uh asymmetric ears uh seven not kissing your ass but you're a great interviewer thanks dude
i had a lot of fun if i didn't have to pee I probably would have kept him on another 30 minutes
Or I would have tried to
I didn't even get to any of my questions
Caleb thank you so much for coming on this show dude
Yeah of course
I can do night shows like this as long as I don't go too late
Missouri is the birthplace of slap fighting
Hillbilly hippie
I'm looking at my construction worker
I thought he lived close to Darian weeks but he does not
oh that would be a great connection
they live in the same state but it's like
two hours from each other
Jeremy
world thank you Jeremy
more interviews like that and maybe this small little
podcast will take off yep thank you
appreciate it
now let's do TDC week interview dude it's 815 Thank you. Appreciate it.
Now let's do TDC Week in Review.
Dude, it's 8.15, man.
Oh, can we schedule that for the morning?
Yeah, you want to do that tomorrow morning?
Yeah, I'll do 7 a.m. TDC Week in Review.
And then Sousa comes on at 11.
Tomorrow's not Wednesday, is it?
No, Tuesday.
Tomorrow's Tuesday.
Wednesday's Juneteenth.
I have the day off.
Thank you.
There was something else.
Dude, Sousa's podcast last week caught fire.
That show is fucking exploding. That show is like 5,000 views on YouTube and 5,000 on Spotify and iTunes.
And, dude, the comments are going crazy.
Hey, dude, you know what else he told me?
You know what's crazy? There's these three podcasts we did caleb that just keep growing jimmy watson okay yeah the
ufo and the flat earth all those shows were like really low numbers like you know 1500 total views
and now that i think they're all over 20 000 isn't that weird i love looking at the back end
and seeing those still up there because Cause then I'll just go back.
Like I,
there's new comments always.
So I go and read the new comments and then I'll go back and just like,
watch the show.
So I just like,
I just,
I love rewatching.
Those are the ones that I love rewatching.
The UFO of God.
When people got really upset when I'm like,
Hey,
so if the angels are in the house and you're fucking your wife,
like,
do you feel self-conscious?
I guess people think you're not supposed to ask that.
What,
what are you supposed to ask?
I don't know.
What about,
and remember when I asked him,
Hey,
do you watch,
like,
what about when you watch porn?
He's like,
I don't watch porn.
And like,
people are like,
Hey,
that's so disrespectful.
It's like,
dude,
it's what the most traffic on the entire fucking internet's on porn hub.
Like,
like it's a fucking totally legit question.
And he answered it like a gentleman.
You know, everybody's thinking the same thing.
Yeah.
Hey, you want to hear something crazy?
I want to show you guys something fucking nuts.
I haven't showed you this yet, Caleb.
I just found out about it today.
Wad Zombie hooked it up.
If I can find it let me see there's this chick she's the is she a champion? I don't know if she's a champion.
Oh, let me see if I can find this video that Wad Zombie sent me.
Oh, this video is crazy.
This chick starts off this interview with one of my dreams. I'm going to try to get this chick on this show. with, uh, one of my dreams.
I'm going to try to get this chick on this show.
I think Wad Zombie hooked it up.
Uh, Katie Botchanik.
She starts off this interview.
One of my dreams.
My dreams is to be a stepmom.
Tell your dad I said what's up.
Whoa.
Ha ha.
That's my.
Whoa. Whoa. Goodness. your dad i said what's up oh my god whoa that's my goodness point doesn't work
all right go we've got seat belt uses him she is in an extremely dominant position but she's a
power lifting world champ jt She's got so much strength.
It's going to be, looks like a force out here.
She is absolutely struggling.
Seatbelt, look at that, JT.
Katie, absolutely dominating.
She's beating this.
It's some sort of fight in a car.
Fighting in a car league.
Dude.
Oh, fuck that.
Are you fucking kidding me?
And you get to use the seatbelt.
Yeah, she's grabbing the seatbelt.
You already know, this one's for you.
I don't know about the shout out to all the single daddies.
Probably scaring some of them.
Somebody's afraid of me?
I don't want them anyway. Right on.
That interviewer does not know what the fuck to do.
He's terrified.
God.
We got no fear, no doubt.
Today at Car Jitsu.
Thank you.
You're with a KD.
Car Jitsu.
Fuck that.
Oh, music.
Fuck.
Are you serious? God damn it. Yeah, music. Fuck. Are you serious?
God damn it.
Yeah, we'll just mute it.
Why?
That's a popular song?
Yeah.
Yes.
Yes.
That chick makes me batshit crazy.
That's what it's called.
Fuck that.
What's her...
Aspiring stepmom
Is something wrong with me
That I'm attracted to her
No
My god
You know when they say looks don't matter
It's just personality
Not that she's bad looking at all
But like man she's taking like her personality
Uh
This chat will have some
Phenomenal comments if you have her on
Be prepared
Uh
No she's
Attractive yeah I mean she is attractive too
But I mean like her personality like takes her
Like over the top
Like wow that's like
Fuck
Two beers in that
and you better fucking have some handcuffs
and a fucking mallet
Jesus Christ she's cool
gotta mark this uh unread
alright
I guess I should just...
Oh, look at this.
I'm watching this clip
Rio sent us.
Should we play this clip?
Yeah, I'm trying to download it right now.
Oh, onto the stream yard? Yeah, because it won't
let me do that thing, you know?
Oh, that's cool. Alright.
We'll play
a Rio sent over a clip from the behind the scenes.
I think this is the West Coast
Classic. Yeah, it looks like my my fancy work
this friend of mine knocked out her tooth
this chick i know knocked out her tooth yeah and i said what did you do
she said i ran into a wall.
Okay.
You ran into a wall and she said, yeah, I'm the Johnny Knoxville of something or another.
I'm the girl version of Johnny Knoxville.
All right, let's not get crazy here.
Jesus Christ, you ran into a wall?
Probably a branded wall.
Oh, Suze is happy that the guy came on.
Anything else I have here?
All right.
How are we? You think we'll get it up? it's taking a lot longer than i thought it would oh starlink starlink i wonder if i could beat you let me see what do i do i go to there i hit
download um oh maybe i can just drag it and drag it onto the desktop you go over here i feel like i'm in a race with you not to overlays
add video clip hit the button go to desktop desktop shit i don't see desktop sevan matosian
folder users god damn it why isn't my desktop over there already go sevan matosian folder
desktop uh behind the scenes clip oh it's not an option to fucking upload it the dot MOV
It's about three quarters away done, how do you how do you um?
Did you switch it from something from an MOV?
If you just if you click to rename it in your desktop folder, you can change it from MOV to MP4.
Oh, when it resaves it?
Or do I just type in MP4?
You can just type in MP4 and it'll give you a prompt
and ask if you really want to change it to an MP4
and then you just say yes and it does it.
Oh, that's awesome.
It's weird.
It's not letting me... Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. It's weird. It's not letting me.
Oh, that's so crazy.
It's not.
Three, two, one.
All right.
Behind the scenes from the West Coast Classic only for CEO members.
Here's a little tidbit that's for everyone.
Here we go.
Let's talk smack to Max because he sucks.
Are you giving him some advice?
Yeah, I'll say he has to do Roman unders, single-legged double unders.
That's all we have to do out there.
You're not stressed out at all?
No, not really.
No.
Not this year.
I haven't trained at all this year.
I've been focusing on paying off my school.
So I should have that paid off before the summer's done.
And then full send CrossFit.
And what's your job?
I do tree service.
I do junk removal after and demo.
So that keeps you strong. Do you get on a ladder with a chainsaw?
Yes, sir.
Not a ladder.
You say a ladder?
You climb up the tree?
Sometimes. The owner usually won't let me. You climb up the tree? Sometimes.
The owner usually won't let me.
He doesn't want to get hurt.
He's the one that owns my gym.
Okay.
So he knows everything about CrossFit, too.
So he won't let me climb up.
Every now and then when he's not there, the Mexicans get me up in the tree.
But, no.
Every once in a while, the Mexicans get him up in the tree.
That's a cool dude.
I met that dude's dad, too. that that's how it is though like if you
if the boss isn't around you can do whatever
the fuck you want if the boss is around
get the shit
I really hope he sticks around the
sport I think I can have a lot of fun with
him
alright everyone thanks for staying up late tonight with me
um we'll see you tomorrow morning at 7am pacific standard time Alright everyone thanks for staying up late tonight with me Um
We'll see you tomorrow morning at
7am pacific standard time
Dave Castro week in review
Love you guys
Have a good one
Thank you Caleb