The Sevan Podcast - Dale Saran | DOJ Forcing States to keep NON-Citizens on Voter Rosters?
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the my framework for judging the modern world. It's kind of how I, as a guy couldn't be more
correct. I don't even know the name of the person who wrote it quite. I'm not entirely
sure but it's a it's a brilliant observation and it's happened in in our lifetime. You
know,
do you think that the
so I and we'll get into it. But my takeaway from the article was it, it was, it's a, in a micro 6 was a coup is a perfect example of the
delusion that they're like we have like half our country actually thinks that yeah a bunch of
people without storm didn't start a fire stormed the Capitol they never asked what they never asked
how they got it like like why didn't they, why wasn't the Capitol surrounded? Why didn't they bring up the water cannons?
Why didn't the pepper spray these people?
Why didn't like, yeah.
And then you see the video.
The US government was going to fall because a bunch of people in pajamas enter
the US Capitol.
It's idiocy.
It's part of the larger point.
It's a great example in there are a bunch of individual lessons
that are really, really kind of pointed, for example, reification, or what Greg now calls
he loves this, the mind projection fallacy, this I of, of, of confusing your, the mental
map you have of how reality works for reality itself.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, and so, so we we have we have people right now we're
living alternate realities in this country. And that factual schisms, you know, there's a famous
quote by Tip O'Neill. I don't know, should we get into this? Are we on? Yeah, we're on. Oh, all
right, right on. So there's a there's a famous quote. I think it's Tip O'Neill who said, you
know, everyone's entitled to their own opinions, but they're not entitled to their own facts. And everybody kind of throws that around.
But for a while, we've been a country headed for a separate facts. And a big part of that is
what we're witnessing, and it runs through all of of this is the collapse of traditional media.
And so you've got everything is moving. Internet kids, those of us who grew up with the internet
have become, our consumption of media is largely in front of a screen. Mine is, you know, I don't watch TV, almost never. In fact,
I don't even, the only time the TV goes on is if there's some kind of major sporting event
that the Mrs. or I like, she wants to have the Kansas City game on in the background. That's
the only time it goes on. Yeah, for a football game or a hockey game for me, you know, but otherwise, the, you know, news is a non
factor in my life. I don't have it on in the background. I have
it at all. I don't I don't see the news. And so you start to
notice, and it's been coming for a while. This this split this
kind of break in our in our sense of reality,
it comes up in all kinds of ways.
Like it's why some people now, myself included,
find Saturday Night Live unwatchable.
It's because Saturday Night Live has a set of facts.
Part of humor is supposed to be revealing truth,
but you can, if your sense of irony is key to something
and you've got it 180 degrees wrong, you look like,
you don't sound clever. You look like a moron. Right. It's not funny. You're like,
that guy's a douchebag. You know, you know, what's the perfect example of that? Tony Hinchcliffe's
joke about Puerto Rico being a floating island of trash. I didn't, I didn't get that joke. And I
thought it was, I thought it was just a funny dig at Puerto Ricans. And he attacked everyone, right?
He attacked the Jews and the Palestinians, which is cool.
That's what comedy is supposed to be.
But if you Google Puerto Ricans trash, there's an NPR article.
And per capita, Puerto Ricans make the most trash out of any people in the United States.
And so the joke was from a national public radio article
from 2019 about, hey, why do those people produce
so much trash?
But I didn't get the joke, and obviously most of the country
didn't get the joke because they didn't realize
that they actually do have a trash problem.
Right.
You have to have the same.
That's what you're referencing, right?
If you don't know, you don't know. Right. Well, that's a case of where you don't have the context. And so the joke, not only in this
case, does it miss. Now people are calling the guy a racist and everything else. And it's like,
no, you're missing the joke because you're not in on the set of facts that are necessary to get it.
You know? And there's a lot of that now a lot of it.
And that's why we have but and the other part of it is, it used
to be that you we could only consume media as a nation. In
other words, there were three channels. I mean, you're old.
Yeah, they're only three TV channels, you know, like, yeah.
I mean, you got the same news, you just got it with Walter
Cronkite's voice as opposed to or you got it with, you got the same news. You just got it with Walter Cronkite's voice as opposed
to, or you got it with, you know, who Harry Reisner's voice and somebody else got it.
That was the only difference.
ABC, NBC and CBS. And then we had like maybe one or two local stations. Like you had to
adjust the, I mean, they all, you had to adjust the ears, but yeah. You had a PBS channel
and then eventually we got a few more UHF channels.
You know, we got, oh yeah, yeah.
With all the cartoons.
Yeah, with cartoons.
And the rating bunch.
And yeah, yeah, yeah.
In the Bay area, we had sitcoms.
34, which were channel 12.
And then we had channel two.
Yep.
Yeah, we had about five or six eventually.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was cool.
God, do you remember that?
And you had to get up and turn,
and the knob would go. Oh, yeah. Come the knob would go, Oh, my dad, my
dad had a UHF antenna.
He probably don't want it.
Well, want me to tell this, but dad, I love you.
I don't.
This is funny.
But my dad got a rotary antenna for the roof and he installed that thing.
And that was like my dad's prize possession.
Like, and the kids were, and it was one of those ones where you went up and I had a knob
on top of the TV and you would turn it like, you know, seven clicks, it had like 360 clicks
kind of thing.
You know what I mean?
Maybe, maybe 60 clicks, but so you'd go like, of course as a kid, I just want to spin it
to hear it click, you know?
Hey, and it wasn't electronic, right?
Was it manual when you turn it, you had to like force the antenna to turn?
No, you would turn it and it drove an electric motor and you could hear it like, you could hear it
turn a piece of metal, you know, you could hear that they go and you'd get better reception.
It was up, you know, my dad put it on the roof and I just remember like, we were not
allowed to touch that antenna, you know, and so on the days and this is before I had even
started going to school, my sister was in school and I wasn't, so I was like four or
five and I wanted to touch that. I had to memorize exactly where to put it back because God forbid he found out that we had turned his antenna.
And you know what else was crazy? We'll get back to Afghanistan in a second.
You could either buy like a $500 antenna or you could just take a piece of wire
and unscrew those screws. Yeah, or a copper hanger and just screw them in.
And you would just hang the wire across your living room and you'd be like, damn, this is some good reception.
Yeah. I told, I tell people that I have a permanent crick in my neck to the right
from having to stand off to the right while holding the aluminum foil so that we could watch
the Bruins. Yeah. Cause that was the only way, for some reason, if I stood, do you ever have to do
that? If, depending? If your own electrical
field would interfere with the TV, you'd get close, it would get staticky.
You used to be able to hit the TV and get better reception.
Yeah, that seemed to work well. Yeah, no one ever hits TVs anymore.
I know. I know. It's weak. I just want to go by and punch the TV just so it doesn't get
cocky anymore.
Okay, so there's a, we're living in different realities.
Yeah, and what's, this ties into what Greg's doing. It's what I'm doing, you know, our legal work. we are witnessing the collapse of government institutions,
a bunch of institutions, government and non-government,
although it's become increasingly apparent
that the media simply is a government institution.
That's just another government entity at this point.
And so all of that's collapsing in real time.
The experts have turned out to be,
and that's really what that piece is about.
It's the Afghanistan debacle was that withdrawal
was fundamentally the perfect,
the crystal bowl of examples of imagery
of just how crappy government and experts generally
have gotten.
But you could take COVID and the handling by the FDA and CDC.
You could use that as an example.
There's almost too many to... the media's handling of the Russia hoax, all of it.
January 6th.
I mean, pick some example of an institution
that's supposed to, and pick your particular issue.
And even no matter which side of the issue you're on.
So for example, if you're a Black Lives Matter person,
tell me about how well media has handled that
from your perspective, or you know what I mean?
No matter what side of an issue you're on,
you can't help but arrive at the media is is wrong. Almost as a matter of
course, you can assume the opposite, you probably get
closer to what's really going on. I mean, we're living very much
like what the Eastern Bloc countries lived in the late
80s. You know, kind of bicameral reality. I mean, all kinds of
crazy shit.
Thank God there's the resources out there so that when the media is telling you that Derek
Chauvin killed Rodney King, if you want, you can go pull up his autopsy report and you can see that
he had three times the lethal dose. I think you mean George Floyd.
Who did I say? Rodney King. Nice to mix that 90s thing right in there.
You know it's funny though, right? It's linked in your mind. That's not, I mean, that's a Freudian
slip, but it's the project. I wonder how many times I've done that. Thank you for catching that.
Yeah, so at least people can go and be like, okay. That doesn't matter though. Don't fall for that
same fallacy, the thought that if if I just corrected other people
factually, that'll solve the problem. You know what I mean?
That doesn't. Yeah. And why doesn't that work? Um, you know,
a bunch of people have said it a bunch of different ways. I think
it was Mark Twain, you can't reason a man out of an opinion
that he didn't arrive at with reason in the first place.
And that's what's had this whole this whole Nazi. That's
fascinating to me because all these people keep telling you
know, I keep all my libtard friends are telling me now it's
crazy people who I didn't even I never thought in a million years.
Like that. At some point, the accusations get so crazy. Like
Hillary Clinton is really a lizard person. Yeah, right, right. Like, you know what I mean? I put the brakes on I'm like, hey, dude
I'm like I'm not doing that
They're trying to tell us that Hitler's a Nazi when the entire premise of the left is based on fascism
It's to take away individual rights and give them to groups based on race and I'm like, hey, dude
Here's the wiki I send him the wiki article.
Yeah.
I'm like, it's not going to change.
Republicans do not care.
I used to fall for that too.
It's that funny picture of the guy.
There's a guy at his computer, and he's looking really earnest.
And he's yelling over his shoulder.
There's a little comment bubble.
And it says, hold on a second, honey.
There's somebody talking shit on the internet.
I got to correct them. Like, just take it, you know, imagine you're not gonna,
you're not going to convince anybody that way. And so all it's led to is just, just
people screeching more and more loudly.
Hey, is the difference between a fact is the difference? Not difference but is a fascism is the
ideology and Nazism is when the group that you're trying to preserve is the
Germans but using the fascist ideology is that is that what a Nazi is it's
basically because basically in a nutshell if we could agree the
definition of fascism is when you want to take away the rights of the groups
and give them to an individual based on race or ethnicity or, you know, some some category.
So is Nazi basically like they're just trying to get rid of everyone and keep the Germans, but it's using the fascist ideology?
No, no. Here's the thing. There's people using these words all different kinds of ways now. It's almost it's like the word racist. It's impossible to get your your hand around. But you say you have to you have to have a
Some pretty good definitions and the poly psi ones are now
Socialists don't want to be associated with
Claim to be on the left and they don't want to be associated
What the socialism and fascism are the same thing when I look at the Wiki definitions.
Yeah, they're both collectivist ideologies, and it's just the degree to which the state
controls things.
In communism, the state controls everything, but then the state is supposed to wither away,
and then we're all going to have the wonderful utopia of the proletariat, where we're all
going to agree on everything. It's the stupidest
thing you've ever heard, but people can't get past it. And then the lighter version of that is
sort of the Marxist socialism is we're going to vote our way into it. So it'll be so much better,
which of course is just the tyranny of the majority. That's just, hey, if 51% of us agree
that we can beat the dog shit out of the other 49% that that's totally legit
That's that's not good. That's what I wanted to do, right?
They wanted to vote they want they they want they use their voting to keep blacks as slaves
And a matter of fact, they passed a law in Congress that you couldn't use the word slave in Congress
Did you know that which which I didn't hear the beginning part of that?
That's what the South wanted to do the The South wanted to vote to keep blacks as slaves
and be like, well, that's democracy.
We voted them in as slaves.
And then when the North was like, hey, let's, let's,
you can't do that according to the premise
of the foundations of our liberty.
But did you know that they even passed a law
you weren't allowed to use the word slave
like for 50 years or something like that in Congress?
Yeah, I'm not surprised by that.
Yeah, they tried to censor what you could say in Congress so that people wouldn't bring up the discussion. You had to use some
phrase instead of like slave. Yeah, that's none of that surprises me. Not that there's
nothing new under the sun. Yeah. So the fascism, the difference between fascism and socialism,
again, remember Hitler's party was the, you know, the German words are for our national
socialist, but the socialist hate being associated because they're like, no, no, no, you know, the German words are for our national socialists. But the socialists hate being associated
because they're like, no, no, no, those were this is the whole no, no.
He was a right wing.
It's a right wing thing.
And but fascism differs only in the fact that you and it's close to what we have
now largely, and socialism always devolves into that.
Because at some point, the socialists
realize that they have no idea government employees realize they have no idea what they're
doing. And so they need some companies. And so that's why everything consolidates into
these large monopolies. And that's easier to control than a country filled with a million
small businesses. It's far, far easier to control a company where
there's only, where basically you've got a handful of mega corporations and you just make sure that
the owners and the people who run those corporations are good party members. And that's how that's done.
That's how that's always done. So in point of fact, there is no distinction between them. They always devolve into the same,
and you could say that, well, it's really oligarchy.
And the problem is you get people arguing
about whether the problem is the government
or the corporations in that analogy.
And the answer is it's both.
They're both immoral.
The fact that politicians can be bought is a big problem,
but it should be surprising to no one.
The whole system was supposed to be built on the premise
that we know that people are generally,
politicians particularly, crooked.
So you try and design systems to thwart that
and protect the most important minority, the individual, the single
citizen. That's the whole premise of the Constitution is supposed to be built on that notion that the
most important minority is the individual, not the group. And the only thing the the neo-Marxist new dehydrated reconstituted
version is now just taking that same and it was done you can see the intellectual history if you're
if you really care to look into it but it's just applying it to race and now rather than making it
about class which is what traditional Marxism does it's it's been used to the sort of original sin of the white man,
you know, is the American experiment, the original sin of the American experiment is
slavery and therefore that wedge has now been used. That was talked about openly as a Soviet
technique back in the 60s and 50s. Let me give you, it worked wonderfully well.
Let me give you a couple examples and let me see what you think about it.
So, it's kind of like the hierarchy of the protected class.
I'll give you two examples of how devious these protocols are.
One of my friends works at a university, one of the biggest universities in the country.
He works in the finance department
He said that whenever they if they're gonna do an event and they're gonna get porta potties for the event
They have a policy in place that says you have to first
Get bids from and then it's this order of protected class the order
So at first you have to ask you have to find contractors who are women and like lesbian. And then it's like women
and black. And then it's like, and then there's like three or four. And then finally, they don't
say it. But the only thing left is white man. But you have to actually get bids in that order.
For the most surrogate for white man in that list is, and I don't agree with any of these
preferences, by the way. And that's why I don't, my wife doesn't understand why I don't, I don't agree with any of these preferences by the way and that's why I don't my wife doesn't understand why I don't I don't want the veterans discount I don't know I don't
want any of that I don't want any special government privilege for belonging to any group
you know I mean I'm not veterans either I don't care you know it's not interesting yeah I don't
want the you know I don't want the 10% I don't all of it feels wrong to me. You know, all of it in any, in any attempt
by the government to, to, to sub divided citizens and, and give away candy based on your, your
participation in some, some organization, whatever it is, you know, is that it's all
wrong. And then on the other hand, we have these schools,
actually, instead of so, so, so if let's say, let's say we had a school, we had a program that was
for advanced students, right? It used to be okay, we're going to save if there's 10 kids, we're
going to save four spots for black kids. Now, what they're doing is they're like, we're just
going to get rid of the entire
program because not enough blacks are in it. Hey, that, that kind of, that kind of, you may not
remember this. And I'm thinking Greg said it to me. He goes, the only person who gets hurt are the
two black kids who are in the program. Right. Of course. Hey, this is, this is it's, we have
this kind of insanity everywhere. You may not remember this from CrossFit, but we had a huge issue, legal issue with the Americans with Disabilities Act. And that thing
has been used as a weapon, a cudgel. And I say this as a guy who's got a case pending where I'm,
I am filed under the ADA on behalf of a client. So I'm well aware of how it's supposed to be used,
what it's supposed to be used for. But the concerns, I remember when it came out, I was in law school, the concern was
always that, hey, these things could be, these requirements could be used as a weapon.
And it did.
If you didn't have bathrooms, you know, like for a CrossFit gym, you didn't have, you had
to have an ADA compliant bathroom, right?
You're like, I'm a gym.
Well, you got to have it for people in wheelchairs so they can come in.
Okay.
Well, what's that going to add in costs and all that. And so
you're, you're importing all these infrastructure costs on
the small business owners to make it like this is how it has
to be right. And it's like, and then what happens, there were
people known for this to go into places in New York City,
lawyers would get these sort of professional litigants who
would go in and be like, Oh, there's no, you know, go with a wheelchair, this, I can't do this,
I can't do that. Come out Sue, it's and the, the get a settlement out of the, out of the
owner or, or make it so that like the owner has to shut down. I mean, it's, it's ruined
businesses. And we wound up with that same issue where we were providing, I forget what content and
all our stuff was free.
But there was an issue about, well, it's not closed captioned.
And so if it's not closed captioned, then, and I remember the Khan Academy had to pull
everything.
So it's like, if we can't, if it's not, if you don't make it for everybody, nobody can
have it.
And so no, if we can't learn calculus, because it's not closed captioned for
us on the internet, then fuck you, nobody gets to. You know what I mean? It's there was a bit of
spite. It was when I was a kid, there was I remember there was a because my dad owned these
two properties in Berkeley on the street. And there was a business that was closed down,
because they couldn't afford to build a wheelchair ramp for access to the store.
And so the store was closed down.
And I remember thinking, holy shit, this is some crazy shit.
One small group of people, you can't find a workaround because they can't get in there
and you'd think, well, geez, maybe we could find a workaround or something, especially
with the internet.
Maybe we could have the stores, things listed in like they did with COVID, you know, we have
delivery, hey, you just come up there and we'll bring it out to you. Right. Whatever it is,
you know what I mean? You'd think there'd be some kind of workaround or at least some acknowledgement
that, you know, this is, this is what it's going to be. But instead it's, and if you, if you decide
it as a society, like, okay, no, we're going to do it. We're going to make it so that everything has that.
You go, oh, okay, well, isn't that what our taxes should pay for?
Right, right.
Like maybe we could just do that.
The business wouldn't have to do it.
Instead of sending, I don't know, instead of sending $40 billion to Ukraine,
maybe instead we could have ADA compliance and the government would be the one to do it.
That way we'd know it was compliant.
You'd be doing it and it would be on the government to make those facilities available.
The businesses would just be like,
hey, we're just here and you'd make it easier.
But try talking in terms of spending tax money reasonably on things for
your citizenry and you get people losing their mind.
No, we got to be sending
blood and treasure to Ukraine and we've got to have 200 military bases around the world and
what will the Japanese do if we're not there and NATO. It's like, hey man, that shit costs money.
I don't know if you know, but bombs aren't cheap. What happened in Afghanistan?
money. I don't know if you know, but bombs aren't cheap. What happened in Afghanistan?
Hey, I told you didn't have to be a general. I'll give it to you in like as easy as you can understand how many let me let me plug one thing. On Friday, I have a guy coming in, he won't be on
the screen. It'll be audio only. And he was there. And he has stored his job.
At the evacuation?
Yes.
Okay.
And his job on the base was every morning
to drive around the perimeter of the base
and collect all the dead babies
that had been thrown over the fence
and put them in a bag the night before.
I'm sorry to laugh.
Every morning there were dead babies and he in some mornings there were live babies like
half alive.
Yeah.
And it's crazy.
It's gonna be a crazy interview on Friday.
It's good.
He said he saw that.
Okay, so what happened in Afghanistan?
So look, look, you don't have to be you.
You do not have did not have to be an expert on military anything you didn't have to be
any kind of uh you know trained on tactics to know that giving up all you had to ever do was just
fly into Kabul once and if you flew into Kabul and just looked out the windows as you were coming in
it would be immediately apparent to you that giving up Bogrom, the military airfield, just by where it sits in that valley, you didn't,
all you would have to do is just look and be like, oh, oh, well that's idiocy. All you would have to
do is look the airfield, Bogrom airfield, that place was a bustling
airport.
I mean, it was when I was there, it was on a par with the Berlin airlift.
Somebody could probably pull the numbers.
We probably brought in as much.
There were flights into Afghanistan.
I mean, you could get a civilian flight into Afghanistan, into Bagram.
I did that once.
I was defending a guy, Air Force guy charged with idiot stuff, I got
him acquitted, but I had to go out to Afghanistan to defend
him. And so I had to fly into Bagram as they wouldn't let me
come on a military helicopter, even though I was a reservist
at the time. But anyway, so you could you could fly into Bagram
it sits up the valley up the slope from is that oh is that Bagram?
I think so I just typed in Bagram and it came in. Yeah,
it was massive, massive the amount of air coming in and out
of there on a on a regular basis. And it sits if you look
at the wider geography. If you pull up like an aerial view of
Kabul and then zoom out just on Google Maps, you can see where
Bagram sits and sits up the valley above Kabul. And so it's
got the high ground and it was also a you know, complete
military base. So if you were going to do an evacuation, if
you had any idea in your head, we're leaving the idea that you
would give away Bagram first, and then flee down to the low ground
and the unprotected. Yeah. There you go. Yep. Um,
God it's huge. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And, and that, yeah.
So yeah, Bagram's massive. And then as you scroll out, it sits no, uh, the, the, the, the Northeast, I think of the,
yeah. Yeah. Yeah. North yet. Almost to North more, more North
and downtown Kabul, scrolling to Kabul. The joke used to be if
you flew in from the outlying areas, when we would fly into
Kabul, the joke would was that
the airports almost as big as Kabul.
Yeah, it is massive.
Massive, yeah.
Kabul, the joke was that when you would fly into Kabul, they used to say right after Karzai
got elected president, you know, he was the president of Afghanistan.
Everybody used to, the outlying Pashtuns said, used to joke, they used to call him the mayor
of Kabul because Kabul is mountains all around.
You have to spiral down into Kabul.
It's surrounded by the Hindu Kush massive mountains,
15, 17,000 foot mountains.
And so he's cut off,
Kabul's cut off from the rest of the country.
And so the idea that you would give up the airfield
on the top of the thing yeah it yeah there you go yep yep that's a good look at it yep that's to the looking
east I believe so we basically built did we build that airfield the Russians left
a lot and then we we obviously you know brought in the American capability to build and yeah, we, I mean, massive build up at Bagram.
So anyway, anybody who gave up that airfield,
you wouldn't look at that and think to yourself,
like if somebody, I don't know who it was ultimately,
you know, it goes to the top.
I mean, Biden has to take responsibility for it,
but the generals who were involved in that,
there's no way anyone who could look at that decision and go, we gave up Bagram and then had to do an evacuation out of Kabul, you wouldn't just say, oh, whoops, and make that kind of mistake. You know, I mean, that that's a, that's not a Oh, my god, how did I like I left my keys? Like, that's, that's, this is the kind of thing that you're like, somebody needs to be dragged out and shot for that.
Because that's the kind of decision that's not if you can't see that you shouldn't be leading drunks to happy hour, much less a multinational force. Like if you can't, if that hasn't, and, and any general if Biden told them and overrode and told them, I am ordering you to do it. I don't give a shit. And that's the way it's going to be get them out now, give up bargain, blah, blah, blah. If it was made at that kind of level, any general who was like, well,
I'm just gonna, I'll just make the best of it. And you didn't publicly resign and make a big snit about it. You don't have a
hair on your ass, you're not worthy of the rank you hold. And so ultimately, no one took responsibility. And to bring it back to that article I sent you,
that farewell to Bergeois Kings, just a brilliant article.
The guy who wrote that, yeah.
So the big signs in the world could land there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and did.
I mean, I landed in, I mean,
you'd see him taken off all day long, yeah.
Bagram could handle, yeah, to anything. I mean, I landed in, I mean, you see him taken off all day long. Yeah.
Bagram could handle, um, yeah, to anything. And Kabul did too, that I saw one of those Russian, the largest plane in the world,
one of those massive Russian planes, but like the wheels alone were crazy.
And when it landed there, it left some, it's so heavy, it left some creases in the runway.
I think they had to go out and do some work on the runway from that thing.
Massive, massive plane.
But yeah, so anybody who gave that up,
it's amazing that nobody even got fired for that.
No one lost their job.
No one even thought to stand up and take responsibility
and go, ah, you know, that's on me.
I'm in charge and resign in shame or nothing like that.
And all of that brings us back to that point
I was, we started with, which is we're witnessing the collapse of experts, government entities that
we were told the central premise of the liberal order for the last 90 years, 100 years, has been this whole managerial, bureaucratic,
expertocracy that's going to bring us to utopia. And it turns out that's all bullshit. And the
public's getting to see that now. Institutions are getting panced on a daily basis, from elections
to you name it. It's all fugazi. It's all fake. And this is China. Oh no. This is China. Yes.
And what Trump is saying is that it was our closest base to China and that somewhere,
one hour within the border, I don't know if he's talking about driving or flying,
is the largest nuclear manufacturing facility in the entire country of China.
That's probably true. If you have you
zoomed in. So if you look Afghanistan actually touches
touches China. That little right here. Yeah, that little piece
that sticks out. And that's where the we goers largely are
from. We tried to repatriate some some folks you can see it's
that little thing that sticks out the little chicken neck.
This yes, that all I had no idea. That's crazy.
This yes that all I had no idea that's crazy. Yeah, and so the the people there
Like nobody wants to claim them We tried to give back some Uyghurs and the Chinese were like no no those aren't ours
And then we tried to give back and the Afghans like nope. Nope. Not ours these guys like wait a minute
You know like I live I live here. You know near Kali, uh
Mafashad, yeah Wow Yep, There's no infrastructure. There's no
road network. Well, bro, there's when I was in Afghanistan, there wasn't this was an 04.
The brief we got was that there wasn't 40 miles of paved roads in the entire country.
They were still trying to build the ring road when I left to a road to join Kabul to the south, which is wide open. It's a wide open
desert, but it's hard to look at this city Bozzi gone Bob and
it's just a it's just years.
Dude, it's all just crazy. They haven't invented the slanted
roof yet.
Dude, cities don't even get pictures.
Yeah, it's because there's just a stack of rocks.
There you go.
That's what's there.
Hey, you go places sometimes and you're like,
you think to yourself, wow, there's no human hand
or foot has ever been on this spot.
I had this exact experience.
I was like, we're somewhere there's never been a human ever.
And I looked off on this
hill, we're out in the middle of nowhere. And some guy goes, look, and there's a pile of human shit.
And you're like, Oh, all right. Well, I guess so much for that.
Afghanistan touches China like Joe Biden touches little
J. 121 24 or yes. Yes. That's the Anteloff. Yep. That's the aircraft that giant Russian one. Huge massive.
These are these places that I've heard stories. Mill guys tell me stories where they land in
helicopters. And they look like they landed in a biblical scene and dogs come running at them and
they shoot all the dogs and then they hand out $100 bills to the people and the people don't they
don't even know what currency is because they don't even they don't everything there is I got a good story about that I guess that I read these
places yeah the the us um do you remember that that we had this uh I gotta tell this story I
this might I don't know if this breaks a classification but it's a great story um so the
you know because I don't think this was secret it was public remember we had that like how much
we're going to pay
for anybody who had information that led to the capture of Killip Bin Laden?
It was like $25 million at first, and then it went up to 50 million. Does that sound right?
Yeah. Yeah. 25 million and it went to 50 million. But so the US made up a bunch of things to hand
out in the tribal areas to try and get this word around. The US State Department offered $25 million reward for information leading to the capture
of death of Bin Laden.
Okay, 25 million.
And it started at 5 million or something.
Right, right.
The problem is this, and nobody thinks of these things.
This is one of those ones, you don't know the water you swim in, your cultural water,
much of it, you don't even know you're breeding it.
And so they made up these matchbox, right?
Match books that had like Bin Laden's picture on it.
And it was in Pashto, Dari, Farsi.
Oh, sorry.
Now it's, sorry, I found another place
where it is 50 million, right?
Yeah, I thought it was the 50 million dollar reward.
Yeah, wow.
Yeah, so it went from 25 to 50 million, right?
So they print it up. Now they've got to print that in local, you know, Dari, Farsi, wow. Yeah. So it went from 25 to 50 million, right? So they printed up now they've got to print that in local, you know, Daria, Farsi, whatever.
And they were distributing these handing them out in the area to kind of get the word out,
like, let people know like, Hey, you got $50 million, you know, the problem is that the
US doesn't understand that in that part of the world, like the average monthly salary to feed a family, a yearly
salary to feed a family of four is probably about, at the time it was probably like $40
US.
Damn.
It was like three or four bucks a month to feed a family and in rupees before we showed up and start doing all kinds
of wacky shit like economy distorting things like money. I could tell you all kinds of
stories about not people understanding. But so anyway, they had to translate this. They
put it into whatever Pashto, Fari, Darcy. And the amount of money is so large, like
in terms of Pakistani rupees, that's like
a quadrillion Pakistani rupees or something.
You know what I mean?
It's like a thousand rupees per the whatever.
And so the number on there looks so ridiculous and that people in the tribal areas, so here
we are thinking we're like doing this whole Psyop and we're going to like get people to
get bin Laden by letting, you know, we we're gonna put a bounty on his head. The number was so extraordinary that the Afghan and the tribesmen you know in the tribal
areas they were they thought it was an insult that the it was like so obviously ridiculous no country
in the world could have that kind of money. This is stupidest thing they've ever heard they're gonna
oh they're gonna oh they're gonna buy me Dubai next. They're like, ha ha ha. And they thought it was the most ridiculous, idiotic thing they'd ever
seen. It had, it had less than zero effect in helping us find bin Laden. It made it harder.
Because we thought it was, they thought it was that absurd. It was obviously a joke. No one has
that kind of thing I've ever seen. The GDP in Afghanistan in 2011 was 17 billion.
So they were offering you a percentage of the entire-
Remember, that was seven years before that when I was there.
Oh, okay.
So, back that up, take out all the money we poured in there.
Look at the GDP in 2004.
It's more like $11.57.
Yeah, it was 5 billion. GDP in 2004. And it's more like $11 and 57 cents.
Yeah, it was 5 billion. Yeah. And they were going to offer $50
million. And you didn't even have to bring them. You just had
to point there he is. Right, right.
They were they thought the Pakistanis the tribes, the the
Pashtun tribesman unit every to every single one and I might have
talked to more than anybody and and
Man, they thought it was the funniest thing they'd ever heard. All right, they were like, yeah pull the other one. Ha ha ha ha
50 million dollars
Okay in
2002 the GDP was four billion. There you go
Right now you're getting closer to it.
And imagine of that 4 billion, how much of that, what that looks like in the tribal areas,
you know, that's 4 billion, 3.999 billion of it, of that GDP is in Kabul.
That's one third the money that Bill Ackerman has.
Right.
Right.
Elon should just buy Afghanistan.
He should make them an offer.
Oh, yeah.
That's like 9% of what he paid for Twitter.
Yeah. 10%. Yeah, 9%. Yeah. Like 1.11 to what he bought Twitter for. Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And that's when you consider that that's considering that Afghanistan's the poppy
capital of the world. So it's where heroines made and they were only that that tells you something
right there. People just, I don't know. Anyway, so you're saying that it was such a, that that,
that in itself shows how ineffective and poorly run the U S government is, is that one that we
gave up such a amazing piece of property and now the Chinese have it, right?
You know, nobody has it. I mean, the Afghans will laugh. Look, the best thing I ever learned in Afghanistan was some from some
guy on the side of a mountain up at 8500 feet. And I spoke a
little bit of Pashto not not a ton at the time, but enough. And
so I'm standing to my my interpreter and I was, you know,
like everybody else kicking
over rocks looking for Bin Laden.
But we're talking to this guy in this village
up on the side of this mountain.
And the guy turns to my interpreter
and I can see he makes this sort of remark,
kind of sneering remark.
And I know it's directed me.
I don't need to speak Pashto to understand.
And I looked at my turf and I went just like this I got did he just call me a fucking tourist and
I it my interpreter goes stops and he was like and he goes you know it's sorry he is
a stupid man he is a very stupid man do not do not buy this is a stupid man I go no no
I was like and it hit me I was like he, he's absolutely right. I go, we're just passing through that dude's been living on the side of that mountain with his family and his grandfather's
grandfather's grandfather's grandfather's since Alexander the Great came through there.
They remember Alexander the Great, you know, you can see the genetic stamp on the posthum.
People got blue eyed guys with black hair. That's the remnants of Alexander's army. When the Greeks
conquered and they they they know it, the people are aware of it. They're they're fully aware. The guys uneducated can't
write can't you can't even scribble his own name. But he knows that Alexander came through there. But these people have
been living on those mountains for thousands upon thousands a year. Like, what are you staying here? You moving in?
mountains for thousands upon thousands a year. Like, what are you staying here? You moving in? You know, he'd like they're
like, fuck off. Get out of here. You know, it'd be like, is
somebody invading here? You know, Pete to like people in the
Louisiana Bayou? Like, oh, you're gonna come you're gonna
be living here? You move it in? Yeah. What are you doing? The
answer is yes. They are they are they are invading. Well, yeah, that's the I mean, that's part of the deal.
Look at look at where the immigrants have wound up.
Have you are you following this in a couple of states here?
I think Virginia and Georgia, we've seen the states try to pull
noncitizens off the voter registration and the DOJ says they have to put them back on because of I think the reason they're saying is, is you can't change the voter registration. Yeah, I'm following all of that stuff. And the DOJ says they have to put them back on
because of, I think the reason they're saying is,
is you can't change the voter registration list
within 90 days of an election.
What are your thoughts on that?
Hey, I gotta tell you, I'm biased.
So let me give you my bias.
My, one of my law partners is currently a target, a victim. He did some litigation
on behalf. Actually, he didn't even, I don't think he signed a single pleading, but he's a very good
writer. And so people seek him out for his writing. And so I'll ask him to like look over, you know, on a particular subject, he's worked a lot of big firms
and he's an exceptional writer, you know?
So he gets requests from people to look over their work
and he's got nothing to do with the issue really,
but he, you know, churches himself up on it
and then he'll look over the writing, the briefs
and kind of help, you know, help with the briefs.
So he did that for some of the election litigation in 2020.
And he is now four years into a process
defending his bar license.
He's one of the people who's been targeted
by Mark Elias' Prop 65 scumbags.
And so I gotta tell you that my view of all of it
and what's gone on is we're,
and I see it down at the level you know, at the level I'm at
because of the kind of litigation I'm doing, but we are, we are razors edge away from, from the
complete loss of the rule of law. We're not that far. So you're saying that people who, in 2020
were filing complaints and lawsuits for whatever legitimate law over claims about ballot stuffing
and all that stuff.
You're saying that then they, instead of they are now being attacked, someone combed through
their shit and is now attacking them.
Most almost prop 60, this group, whatever they're called, something six project 65,
it's Mark Elias's group. They made it,
their stated purpose was that they were going to grab through the law license of any attorney
who filed anything challenging the sanctity of the 2020 election. And my law partner is one of those
guys. And so, and so he's gone through hell. Yeah, the 65 project there is 60 is a legal activism campaign seeking to disbar and discredit Trump affiliated lawyers who worked on lawsuits supporting and Trump affiliated can mean, you know, like that Republicans and Democrats
do all the time.
They're essentially trying to make it one party rule where Republicans can't challenge
elections only democracy means when Democrats win.
That's what democracy means.
You know, one of a friend of mine said that in 2020 that they were afraid to vote for
Trump and I said why and they said because I'm afraid I'll be punished for it.'m like no one's gonna see your boat vote and they go. I don't believe that
Yeah, right, and I thought that was absurd
But now we've reached a point where it almost is like hey if you voted for them
They're keeping a list of all the people who voted for him
Yeah, we've been headed that way for a while that's why the other that I like, I always like to refer people to it's one of my favorite.
I think it's some of the best writing ever done on political dissidents and but there was a piece by Vaclav Havel, the Czech dissident playwright who is imprisoned.
It's called The Power of the powerless. And he has a, there's a whole section there where he talks about, and it's become a famous
kind of analogy, you'll hear people talk about
of Havel's Greengrocer, H-A-V-E-L, Vaclav Havel.
And Havel's Greengrocer is a section
of this piece that he wrote.
And he asks, why does the Greengrocer keep the sign
in his window that says,
workers of the world unite? Does he really have any care about the workers of the world?
Do you think the guy who puts that sign in his door really cares one way or the other about
whether the workers of the world unite and who that is? And it's like, no, the sign serves a different purpose. And, and Havel goes on
to explain that the sign is there, it came from the party bosses, and this guy knows
that he's supposed to put it up. And the purpose of the sign, it's like, and Havel doesn't
use this language, but it's like a warning sign. And what it does is he's, he's showing
that look, I'm, I'm the kind of guy who obeys. I know, I know that I'm supposed to put the
sign in the window. So I put the sign in the window and everybody can see that I'm the kind of guy who obeys. I know that I'm supposed to put the sign in the window. So I put
the sign in the window and everybody can see that I'm the kind of guy. It's the same as BLM signs.
Right. Right. In Portland, if you don't want your house burned, you know?
Right. And so it's like what people were saying at the Trump rally. It's finally,
there's all these people can now finally say their vote. Finally, the country feels comfortable
saying, I support Trump without worried about retribution.
Yeah.
That's, that's how you can tell things have swung.
Call or hi.
Hey, I want to point out one thing when these groups are trying to stop people from disputing
anything.
It would have to involve a repeal of the First Amendment
because part of the First Amendment
says Congress shall make no law prohibiting the ability
to petition the government for redress of grievances.
So by telling you you can't dispute something,
they're trying to take away
your right to petition the government, the government doesn't have to do anything about it.
But we as Americans have the right to petition government.
Yeah, hey, that's very quaint. I appreciate that. That's very quaint. And I'll let my,
I'll let my buddy know my law partner know all about that while he's spending the
next three weeks in hearings in front of the bar disciplinary committee.
And we've heard now John Kerry, Bill Gates, and Hillary Clinton talk about the needing
of the removal of the first amendment now.
Just openly.
Just explicitly.
Just openly talk.
Yeah.
Actually, forget about talk seven.
Forget about talk.
We've had the whole Twitter files, Matt Taibbi and Schellenberg and all
these people have shown that you've got the Center for Countering Digital Hater.
There are government run organizations and people who formerly worked for the FBI now
sitting over at Twitter and they're all the Stanford project and election integrity project or all these
NGOs getting government money, your tax dollars to censor Americans. I mean, that's going on.
What do you mean talk about censoring? That's ongoing. People don't realize. I said this on
Brett Weinstein's, I think Dark Horse podcast a few years ago. And at the time,
I probably sounded like a raving lunatic, but I was like, your country's at war with you.
Your government, your government's at war with you and with its own people and it has been for a
while. And you know, like people will eventually come around to that. They'll get to it eventually.
Like if, if do you think, you know, Elon joked on an interview he did on Tucker, but he openly was laughing.
He was like, yeah, how long is the jail sentence I'm going to get if the Democrats win?
Right.
He went all in and he knows that he's already in lawfare with them.
They're already, you know, they took away a permit because of they openly said they
denied a permit for him to launch rockets off the California coast
from Vandenberg because of his Twitter positions and his politics.
Right.
Next.
We'll be that.
They openly said that.
I know that was wild.
Yeah.
Yep.
A government, a government agency is just openly like, yeah, well, you know,
um, John Kerry, Bill Gates, Hillary Clinton, crazy that they see the First Amendment as a threat.
No, it's not crazy.
It's perfectly, of course they do.
That's why I said that the old media, the old ways that the Clintons controlled, I mean,
the media is the way it is.
That's largely the result of the Clintons.
During the WikiLeaks, if you looked up the Hillary Clinton files and the Podesta emails and all that stuff,
there were reporters there who were admitting there were these junkets where like Hillary, all the major press was there. And they were being given the talking points by
Hillary. That's all in the emails. You can look that shit up, but nobody wants to talk about it. I mean, she got, she got the questions for the debate ahead of time and shafted Bernie in the
Democratic primary. The media being a Clinton vessel has been that way since-
She got the question ahead of time?
Yeah, of course she did from Donna Brazeal. And what did Donna Brazeal get out of it? She
got a promotion. That's what happened. Real life intellectual, like election appearance. I mean,
as- It's so brazen, it's so brazen. Of course it was.
She stood there and took the question.
They even told her which side of the auditorium it would come from.
They told her where it would come from, who it would be.
And then she stood there and acted like the whole point of the debate is you're
supposed to show how you have commanded the issues.
You can handle these unscripted questions and that thing. Now we all know.
It's all scripted. It's all bullshit. You got moderators fact checking one side and not the other. I mean,
all of that is collapsing. It's all collapsing. The Rogan interview will be a watershed moment,
but I think the fall of Kabul is really when it begins.
But did you hear how Trump said in there? He said in there he's oh, yeah Sundar called me the other day and was telling me how good my McDonald's videos were doing
He said the CEO fucking Google called them
Yeah, and what's fascinating is do you know that if you type in if you go to YouTube?
It is so trippy have you can't even find that interview. You can't yeah
I heard you can suck that you can't search it by episode number you can't. Yeah. I heard you can cite that.
You can't search it by episode number.
You can search every other one, but not that one.
This thing is fucking crazy, dude.
It's great.
It's great.
You just type in here, Rogan Trump, right?
And the video has so it's on the hill.
It's crazy trending. It's got fucking 30 million
views. Look at it. Yeah. And yet you can't find it. Right. You can't find the fucking
interview. That's on a top 10 moments. These are actually get the interview. Yeah, it's
fucking absolutely nuts, dude. There it is. Finally. There. 37 million fucking views.
Yeah, that's going to be the most watched.
A big part of that will be overseas.
That's going to be really interesting part about it.
A huge chunk of that will be people outside of the United States.
Hey, what, um, uh, why is there a poster of fake boobs behind Dale?
Fake books. Hey, I had, and I was clear that those are fake.
I made it clear. Those are fake books. I had another set of fake
books, but it's better than this set of fake books is better than
the other set of fake books I have. Because back there I have
I have a board a glass board that's got my clients, like
lawsuits and dates and all kinds of stuff and plans.
And so I, that's why I have the fake books.
Really? JD Vance is going on Rogan next.
That'll be, that'll be a really interesting one.
That'll be fun.
Yeah.
Vance is a, wow.
It's a former Marine.
He'll be the highest ranking.
That'll be the highest any Marine has ever reached.
If he's, if he becomes the vice president,
Vance would be no Marines ever been higher
than I guess chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff,
which Joe Dunford.
And I ask you this question,
and I hope you're not gonna shatter my image.
There's all these people around me.
So, you know, you have the spectrum of just the far left,
just completely delusional, you know, can't
define what a woman is.
Yeah.
I mean, just full blown.
I mean, to the wiki definition, just full fascist, just give the government all the
power, chop the penises off the kids, see no value for religion.
And then you swing all the way over to the right.
And you have this other thought that it's like lizard people controlling the fucking world.
And somewhere in there close to that lizard people thing, they believe that it's just
too it doesn't matter who's elected.
It's all the same thing.
There's like some sort of puppet master.
But I don't believe that. I truly think that Trump is anti-establishment.
And when he says things, two things,
when he talks so honestly like he did on Andrew Schultz,
when they're like, hey, how come you don't lie
like the other side makes stuff up?
And when I mean lie, I mean relatively lie.
Like I think the shit that Trump lies about,
I think he thinks he's telling the truth, right? But I mean like, I mean relatively lie. I think the shit that Trump lies about, I think he thinks he's telling the truth.
But I mean like, and he says, hey,
I think we're gonna start in the last two weeks,
I think we are gonna start lying because it's come to that.
He basically admits that on Schultz.
And then on Rogan, he explains,
hey, I didn't even really wanna be a Republican,
I'm paraphrasing, but it's the only way in
because of the way the machine is built.
And I don't really believe that he is anti-establishment and that when Elon openly says, paraphrasing, but it's the only way in because of the way the machine is built. Right. Believe
that he is anti establishment. And that when Elon openly says I'm going to cut up $2 trillion
from the budget that they actually are going to get rid of all the deep state the Department
of Education.
He'd be what do you think? Do you think it's I can I tell you this, I've had I've had
him and Kamala are getting on the phone and laughing.
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, common government tactic to disrupt dissident groups is to like the flat earth or thing.
Yeah. That to me is like a government thing. That's a government op. Explain.
No one there, no, there aren't real, any real people who matter who believe the earth is flat.
You know, that's a, that to me has all the air marks of a government
earth is flat. You know, that's a that to me has all the airmarks of a government,
SIA where to discredit some other movement, you, you,
idiotic versions, cartoon characters of things, and then you throw them in with all the other disney, you know, the,
so the whole person's right about this, but we need to figure out how to discredit
them. So we'll, we'll make them also think that they're, yes,
you stick them with some other lunatic group,
you know, and so another example that I'll give you another
example, I would I would bet that the the origins of the
there are no viruses, I'll bet that's a government. That's a
government op. Oh, interesting. Okay, so the same thing with
like, in the absurdity that like, obviously, the right wants
free speech, but and they don't have control over the media
but somehow
They want dictatorship when they don't have any it's just so absurd
They don't have any of the telltale signs of what a dictatorship would look like
Yeah, they're over they're pro religion. They're pro freedom of speech and yet for some reason they've convinced the left that but there don't forget. They're also Nazis. Yeah
look that the this has been going on for a
Long time that how many how many different presidents Republicans have?
We had that are literally Hitler by the media and Mitt Romney was literally Hitler and then
After after they run and lose the Democrats then when they sort of get swallowed up in that, you know, that machinery, then suddenly they're, they're statesmen. And now we should, like, look at the left, courting Dick Cheney. That's something I didn't see coming. I mean, how absurd is it that Dick Cheney comes out to support Kamala Harris? It tells you everything you need to know.
Kamala Harris. It tells you everything you need to know.
Dale, I was raised that Dick Cheney was the devil incarnate. I was raised him, Karl Lowe, that they were fucking the end of
humanity. Yeah. And that at all costs, the Democrats like they
were the worst. Yeah. And now Bush, remember Bush, Hitler, I
mean, all that. And now, now it's now Bush is a statesman and
supporting Kamala. And look, when
you're people, the whole NPC thing is, is works as a, as a jab at the, at the left, because there's
no set of thoughts that they won't hold its contradictory to, it doesn't matter if it was
yesterday. You know, it's I mean, look, Joe Biden was totally sharp as attack was the best,
the most presidential he was on it until he was.
Everybody could see that he was a slack jawed dementia patient.
And then suddenly he had to go and then Kamala got installed without any nobody
vote she's got I got more votes in the, in the primary than she
did, or we get the same amount, which is to say zero, you know, and then she gets installed.
And, and, uh, and yet, you know, it's the other guy who's the threat to democracy.
For those, what democracy means is when Democrats win. That's what they mean when they say that.
Right. Well said. For those people who don't know, NPC is non-playable character. And for those of
us who played video games, it's the characters that just move. Like when you played Super Mario
Brothers, you started knowing the patterns of the guys as they move. So as you come across the
screen, you know, this character is always going to do this no matter what. Or, you know, the
character who always runs across the street in a video game when you're driving a car at this point. They're the ones who are just on autopilot. And it is sort
of a scary paradigm to start using and projecting on the world. Because you start seeing it everywhere.
And I guess that's how the CIA and the FBI are so effective with PsyOps. And that's how they control
the world because they know that there's a good cohort of NPCs who will always
react to like the word Hitler, all the non-playable characters. You know what I mean? Like when you
walk on the screen in a shoot-em-up game and all the zombies turn and rush towards you.
This has been going on since Edward Bernays and there's a whole bunch of these guys.
Lippmann was one of them. That's the guy I always point to as Lippmann. But in the 1920s,
the idea of sort of large-scale control through the use of propaganda was openly discussed and became a weapon of state. And that's been going on
nonstop since the tools of propaganda have never stopped being used. And in fact, the schools are
just are just a part of that. That's all they are. So do you think Trump is truly,
Rogan described him as a businessman who likes to make deals.
People are describing him as anti-establishment.
Do you think that he truly is his own,
like he's a, how many presidents have we had?
Do you think he's one in 47?
Well, he was 45, so I guess he'd be two.
He would probably will be 47.
Here's my take on Trump. Do you think
that there's no one else like, like, like him who's ever really different in the sense
that, yeah, we haven't had very, if you look at, you know, he's not a Yale guy. He doesn't
come from that kind of blue blood. He's more, I mean, people will say, well, his dad gave
him a bunch of money. And that's true, but his dad's not a blue blood either. Although
he did go to Wharton, he did go to UPenn. He's got the
the piece of paper from the business school. But the fact is that he's not of that. He's not a
Greenwich Connecticut, old money, Yale-y, you know, like the Bushes are, for example. You know, like
HW was a Yale guy, played first base for Yale. Bush the first. And so he's not that kind of guy.
And he's definitely an outsider,
but he was a moderate Democrat
when I was living in New York in high school.
Right.
And I remember Trump was,
I mean, that's the whole point of like,
what's funny about all of this is here's a guy who's got,
you know, he's got pictures that Bill Clinton
called him personally to encourage him to run.
That was part of the whole,
the Pied Piper candidates that Hillary's campaign put together. I love that, by the way, that Trump is Nemesis created by Hillary. I think there's a karmic justice
there that nobody can, that hasn't been explored and should be. You know, you go back and look
at that. Trump did not, was egged on to run for president by Bill Clinton
at Hillary Clinton's insistence as part of her campaign strategy, because they thought
that she had a much better chance of beating Trump than she did against running against
the establishment folks. Yeah, that's a well known you can look that up. That's been written
about in the press and it came out that was part of the podesta emails and all that so but the reason clinton talking about 2016 election yes holy shit yeah
she created nemesis there's a karma here that's so so sweet it's delicious it's ambrosia she created
the trump and furor he says he says things um, when she's like, Hey, you fucking avoided paying taxes.
And like most politicians would be like, no, I didn't.
Or they would, they would be like, taxes are a wonderful thing.
And everyone, yeah, you're damn fucking right.
I did.
And I use the laws that you and you're like, holy fuck.
That was the thing that Chappelle latched onto.
Yeah.
He said he was the first, he's the first guy to ever come out.
Yeah. The first one to ever come out. Yeah, the first one
to ever come out and do that. I think Perot would have said that he would Perot would have probably
said something I voted for Perot in 92. I liked I like Perot. I wish I would have. And, um, and so
he was a little ferret but um, back when I cared about such things. It's the same thing with the
dictator comment.
They're like, what do you say to people who are going to call you dictator?
He's like, I will be one on the first day.
And it's like, holy, it's like, holy fuck.
Now they actually like the left has somehow weaponized that.
Yeah, I think that I tell you what, I think that here's what I think about him.
Is he a real agent of change?
He may be, but not for not because he's doctrinally that way. You know what I think about him. Is he a real agent of change? He may be, but not for,
not because he's doctrinally that way. You know what I mean? He's not, he's not a doctrinal
Republican. The dude was a moderate Democrat his whole life, but that's, that's where the,
the window has continued to slip to the left. And so now a moderate Democrat,
what would have been known as a blue dog Democrat in the 80s, like the Reagan Democrats, you know. Well, he's a good guy. He's got that libtard quality of like other really conservative people,
you and I both know who he really just wants to help people. Like he's the kind of guy who would
walk down the street and pass out hundreds to drug addicts thinking he's helping Trump's that guy.
Yeah, there's maybe a part of that. Sure. You know what I mean? He loves the idea of saving 100 spots in colleges for black people. Like he loves that.
Yeah. That's not a lot of that. That's why I think people have him all wrong. I think he's a savior of the right or the demon of the left. I think people miss him completely.
He's just a New York, he just is what he is.
He's just a New Yorker.
I really like him.
Yeah, he's a likable guy.
I want to get somebody I know who's bumped into him.
And people I would not have expected to,
I know someone who worked for him
and a person I completely would not have expected.
And this person was won over completely.
He said he's a genuinely good, good guy.
And I've heard that a million different anecdotes of, you know, something equivalent to that.
So I think he's probably generally he's an old school kind of guy, old fashioned, you know,
he's a middle of the road Democrat, but who's got, you know,
older tendencies like your uncle or whatever, he still got some old fashioned things, like he
doesn't swear. I've heard that from people. It's like people swearing around him.
Doesn't drink, never had alcohol.
Well, yeah, his brother, it killed his brother. And so he's not his brother. He really loved died
of alcoholism. And so he's a teetotaler in that regard, which is fine.
died of alcoholism. And so he's a teetotaler in that regard, which is fine. I want to show you something fascinating. So, John Kelly, General John Kelly came out and said that
Trump said that he wishes his generals were more like Hitler's generals. And what's crazy is John
Kelly is a child. He's a child human trafficker. Do you know about this? No
Fucking create I've never googled this by the way John Kelly unaccompanied children. This is from 2019 I've never opened this article this fucking guy. It has a
360 million dollar fucking contract with fucking Homeland Security
for unaccompanied minors
This fucking guy, of course, he fucking hates Trump, right? I've
never opened this article. This is from 2019. John Kelly cashes in on child separation policy
he pushed. You can't John Kelly, John Kelly was secretary is going to get worse than I
even thought it was John Kelly was the Secretary of Department of Homeland Security when President
Trump's zero tolerance policy was under consideration. The chief of staff at the White House when
the policy was implemented now is on the board of caliber and international which runs the the Yeah. Now the articles are he's getting destroyed in the articles, but he fucking traffics. He
fucking basically keeps on and then from there you could extrapolate if you want to believe
it that there's a ton of child sex trafficking going on. I don't know anything about that
except for what I just hear you know in little snippets. Yeah. But he has the two he runs
the two largest facility he's with the company that runs the two largest facilities in the United States for unaccompanied minors. You should see what happened.
The Secretary of Defense, Lloyd Austin, before he became Secretary of Defense was widely known for
his contacts and he was on the boards of,
among other things, a bunch of hospitals
and he owned a bunch of stock in things.
And then he came out with this vaccination policy
and some people pointed out that he never,
he was pressed about this in his confirmation hearings
and he promised that within 60 days
he would execute a disclaimer, you know,
disclaiming his interests and all these, in all this healthcare stock and, you know, companies that were tied up,
that were going to get contracts as a result of the vaccine policy that he was putting into place. And he never did.
And that he owned stock. And I mean, it's, I, you could find that if the more you, if anybody ever
did, if we had real journalism, these things would be more widely known. I don't know that it would
change anything because it's been this way for almost a hundred years. You're saying Lloyd Austin,
the vaccine had stock in vaccine companies, not vaccine companies, but hospitals that would get
contracts to issue the vaccine. Sure. Yeah.
They were getting paid for the number of people that companies that he had stock in would be the
ones distributing and giving the shots. Yeah. They were going to make money on it.
Wow. Yeah. And he was pressed about it. And then somebody leaked that stuff from it and it got out
into the wild. And then there became this hunt to try and the military started looking into try and find out who leaked that. And
so I mean, this stuff goes on, you know, unbeknownst blind to the to the public eye, but it's it's
as dirty as you could possibly it's way dirtier than you think.
Is the US government still mandating the COVID vaccine? Like I heard to work on Kamala's campaign, you have to be up to date on all your boosters.
Did you know that?
I had heard it, but I didn't.
It's on our website.
Yeah, you have to be up to speed on your CDC vaccination.
They can have mine. They can have mine, they can have yours,
could take all of them, take all the extras.
How, how is, how is your case going? Great. They're going great. We're super excited.
We've gotten two good, two good rulings. And yeah, we're, I expect this year we'll have some good results.
Or excuse me, 2025.
We might get a result by the end of the year in one of our cases.
So yeah, I'm going to crack the government.
We're going to prove we're in possession of a unique fact that I screamed about at the
top of my lungs.
Nobody wanted to hear.
It's unfortunate. Everybody was injected with an unlicensed vaccine. There was no licensed vaccine. There never was.
They licensed one and then it was removed from the market the same day. There never was
comornity. It was solely for the purpose of getting a license. Then it was immediately
moved from the market the same exact day. It's the only time the FDA has ever done this.
Yeah, of course.
Lloyd Austin was a board member of Raytheon
who just ordered to pay over $950 million
for bribing foreign officials in violation of the FCPA.
Yeah, that's the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act.
Yep, of course.
Shocked face, it's around here somewhere.
There was a great comment in here earlier from Jesus. Damn.
Usually is.
Right. It said, it was the the person posting is Jesus and it said you only need one book.
Damn, I wish.
Nice. Nice. Don't need a big stack. Solid.
Dale, what's going to happen with Iran?
Oh, you know, I know Greg's got some theories about that too.
Are we going to eliminate nuclear capabilities soon?
I hope.
I thought somebody, a friend recently reached
out to me and was like, Hey, did you see that Iran had a nuke test, underground nuke test?
And I was like, what? And they were looking at it like, yeah, it's again, not being reported
in the mainstream press, but it looks like Iran detonated a nuke. It was an underground nuke,
the seismograph readings and all that. There's some outrage. You can only find it in like
international kinds of papers. You know You can only find it in like international
kinds of papers. You know, you might find it in like BBC News and shit like that. But American
media is just fundamentally the DNC. So you get whatever they give you. But yeah, it looks like
Iran tested a nuke in response to what Israel did and might be why. Yeah, there we go.
Iran and earthquake or secret underground nuclear test.
Days after the news broke of the earthquake in Iran's Semnan province, speculation has continued on social media that the tremors were caused by Tehran's first nuclear test.
4.4 magnitude. Hours after the news broke, social media users began speculating that the Tehran regime had attempted to conduct its first underground nuclear test, presumably as a deterrent measure against Israel attacks on its territory.
Wow.
Wow, that's crazy. Wow. I don't know if they have a nuke yet, but you know, the Persians are smart people.
You know, it's not like they don't have Persian scientists. Not like they don't know anything
about math.
And, and, and one nuke in Israel's gone, right? The entire country.
Ah, that depends. I mean, a nuke's, you know, what do you mean by a nuke? Like I, you know, I don't know where nuke technology has in terms of how much it can
obliterate, but you know, as an ICBM, are they going to launch one that goes up into
space and come back down and drop on Israel?
I don't know.
A COVID-19 vaccine says it's licensed.
Is he saying it wasn't licensed at the time of use?
Yeah, you are. Daniel, you have bought into the PsiOp, my friend. Now it might be, but at the time
when they were saying, you've got to take this, and when they first announced on August 23rd,
2021, they were like, we licensed a vaccine. I want you to go to that vaccines license.
Comernity was its name, C-O-M-I-R-N-A-T-Y.
I want you to go to Comernity's license, the BLA,
the biologics license approval that the FDA grants,
and then look at what the start date is
and the end date is for the marketing date.
When the FDA grants a license, what it's granting is
a license for you to market that product
for the purposes that you listed in your application. And when they
do, they give you a marketing start date and a marketing end date. And if you look at Comernity,
it was licensed on its marketing start date is 23 August, 2021, and its marketing end date is
23 August, 2021. So it came into the market on 23 August and it was removed from the market the same
exact day.
That's never happened before.
And then the FDA issued a letter for its EUA product.
Its emergency.
Why did they remove the license the day after?
Yeah, I'm about to tell you.
Okay.
They removed the license same day because that is a precondition for the grant of an
emergency use authorization.
The emergency use authorization statute, 21 USC 360 BBB-3. The emergency use authorization statute itself,
the whole justification, the FDA cannot issue an EUA unless there is no licensed alternative
treatment for the condition. In other words, if there is a licensed product that an EUA cannot issue, and you can only
use licensed product first and foremost, the whole point of the EUA statute is you can
only have an EUA if you don't have a licensed product that's already available to treat
that thing.
So they could not have a licensed product available and grant the EUA.
So if you look in the letter, the EUA letter, it specifically says in a footnote, footnote eight or nine,
it says the FDA commissioner notes that,
well, there isn't sufficient comornity available
and she basically declares it legally unavailable.
That's a prerequisite to granting the EUA,
the Emergency Use Authorization.
And Pfizer always had as a condition of its contract
with the DOD for the provision that they were only
going to provide product under the EUA
because that gives them Prep Act protection.
A licensed vaccine would not have Prep Act protection.
Not at least after a certain amount of time,
there's some-
What is Prep Act protection?
The Prep Act is a horrific statute that was drawn up largely at the behest of pharmaceutical
companies that essentially takes away any possibility that they can be sued over the
physical harms resulting from the vaccine.
It basically grants them almost total immunity.
So they were never going to take the risk that they could be sued over the injuries
caused by the vaccine. And that's why they licensed the vaccine. Everybody made it big. It was a
PsiOp is all it was, military run, military grade PsiOp. They hold this big thing. The FDA announces,
we license a vaccine, we license a vaccine. And then it's removed from market the same day.
The EUA remains in place. It's a regulatory bait and switch. And then they just went out and just people were getting the EUA product the whole
time. But people were fooled into believing that they were getting a licensed product. They weren't.
You were all injected with BNT162B2. So the reason why they, why even license it in the first place,
why not just keep it unlicensed and
go straight to the emergency use act? They had been they had been using EUA but the problem was
you can't mandate an EUA vaccine. Oh, oh. So you can't mandate an EUA vaccine. You can't mandate
an experimental vaccine. We hung the Nazis for that. We stretched the necks of doctors
for forcing people to take experimental vaccines. So they make it legal, get the mandate passed,
and then get it unlicensed. Make it licensed, get the mandate passed, make it unlicensed.
So the FDA licenses the vaccine on August 23rd and says, look at this licensed vaccine on August
24th, the next day, Secretary of Defense Austin announces the mandate saying we're going to use
only licensed vaccines. But of course it's a lie because they have no licensed vaccine. It's been
removed from the market the day before. And then what they do is 11 days later,
they can get the protection.
Yes, and so then 11 days later,
the secretary of health and human,
the secretary of defense,
the assistant secretary of defense
for health and human affairs, Teri Adoram,
comes out with a letter that says,
ah, you can treat these things the same.
They're the same.
The unlicensed one is the same as the licensed one. FDA says it doesn't present any problem. So you can just use that. And with that
poof washes away service members' right to informed consent, which is to not be injected
with an experimental product. But that's all they had was experimental products. So they just
declared them equivalent. And that's fundamentally at the heart of our lawsuit.
product. So they just declared them equivalent. And that's fundamentally at the heart of our lawsuit.
Dale has such a thick neck to support that massive race. His big head. He was born with a little pinner. Yeah, a little pencil neck. You alluded to the fact that you think Trump's gonna win?
Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Everything I've been tracking. And I have, you know, for whatever it's worth, I do have to have rate. I was up at the Hill and the Senate a few weeks ago. I've got a piece of my partners and I have a piece of legislation kicking around up there that we're trying to help, you know, people who got kicked out of the military to get their back pay. And so I have cause to be up there and, and, and, you know, our, our, we've publicly disclosed,
we've got lobbyists and all that. So I weekly, in fact, today I'll be talking to them about
how things are going there.
Bezos, stopping the Washington Post. Yeah.
Is that he scared he's gonna lose his government contracts? Is that all that is?
I don't know about government contracts, but I think
I mean, US government has massive contracts with I mean, billions and
billions with Amazon and their servers.
Oh, yeah, of course. Is that all? Is that the only reason? Is that what he's
doing? Is that a sign that Trump's gonna win?
I think that the left freaking out over it and saying, Oh my god, this is
because he's trying to make nice. I think they are justified in
their freaking out. I think their freak out-ery is for the right reason.
I think Bill Ackerman has been red-pilled, but I don't think Jeff Bezos has been red-pilled.
I think he's protecting his money.
Yeah. I don't know. I don't care about it. I don't make decisions in my life based on
whether I think somebody's had a philosophical conversion that
Like I just you know
Does Bezos think Trump's gonna win is that why he's doing that? Yes. Yeah
There was just which way is the wind blowing kind of thing and I'll tell you what that is and same for Zuckerberg
It's that they have access Zuckerberg is still a cuck. That's what I was thinking. He's a piece of shit. I don't I don't know. Yeah, I don't know if the guy again, I don't don't care. Don't I don't speculate about what philosophical conversion somebody's got there because it wouldn't. You can fool yourself with that kind of stuff. Oh, he's
in words that I like. And Rogan go or I just got off the phone with Cook and Rogan goes when he goes two hours ago. So like all these fucking heavyweights are fucking reaching out to him. Yeah.
Yeah, he's also if you see there's talk he just said something interesting. I know a lot of stuff
doesn't get reported. I don't know what people see but I follow political rags because it's important
to what I'm doing right now legally. But he just said that he's not going to make the mistake he
made last time, which is that the government accounting office will only pay for a new
president's transition team beginning like at 90 days before you take office. And so Trump said
that it was a mistake last time. He said, I'm going to pay for it myself. And so he's already
putting together a transition team to be ready so that when the 90 days comes,
when the GAO will take over those salaries and pay those
people, he's like, fine, but he's gonna get them set up
first. I've had people, I got a text from someone who said, Hey,
I put your name in for something over there. And I'm like, Okay,
whatever.
But I have no desire to work for the government.
But I get, you know, I have people who work in and around that.
And so they're looking hard.
I think RFK is going to wind up being head of HHS.
I think we'll wind up being the Health and Human Services.
And I can't help but think that that's going to be a good thing. And what about, um, the, uh, Jay Bhattacharya being thrown around as head of the
CDC?
Yeah, that would be, I could see that happening. Sure. I don't know. I, you know,
I don't have no idea if he would, uh, take that or not. I don't have,
he was on here a couple of days ago and I said, Hey, I'm hearing, uh,
Oh, you had them on.
Yeah. I'm like, I heard people throwing your name around and he said, yeah he said, Yeah, I'm getting I've been thinking about what I would do.
What are the things I would like to do? Yeah, I that doesn't surprise me. I hear I have
people friends around those circles. And I know a bunch of people over at CHD, which
is Kennedy's, you know, or or at least it was I don't know if he's still, if he's had to sever ties or whatever,
but I know his CHD senior outside counsel
is a guy I'm familiar with
and occasionally talk to and all that.
So yeah, there have been, I think it would be amazing.
I think it would be fascinating.
And I would love to see a change
in the DOJ litigation positions,
their interpretations of statutes with a new regime.
I mean, that could mean a lot for me personally. This isn't exactly true what I'm going to tell
you, but I'm going to paraphrase my understanding of what's going on here with Trump. From what I've
listened to, the podcast I've listened to he's on and all the talks and ups, he has no, he
self-admittedly doesn't have the
ability to control the machine. And he went in last time and that was his first rude awakening.
He didn't know all the people in power. He wasn't an insider. He didn't know how the
machine worked. And he still doesn't and he's still not a Washington insider. He still
doesn't know exactly how the machine works. He was basically saying, but I found it but
he did my words, not his. It's irrelevant because what he's going to do now is he's going to take apart huge chunks
of the machine. Like, like we all know that are a farce, like the Department of Education,
the Federal Department of Education, like they don't, they don't do anything except
beat down the States. They use that $86 billion to beat down the States. And, and, and, and
the numbers show it when it was developed in 1980. Education just fucking
plummeted our test scores commented from the day one it was a step.
Yeah, the DOE is you. I'm a anybody who's read anything I've written, you'll find. I think
that the only question if anybody ever made me the head of the Department of Education,
the only question would be, would I give the employees
15 minutes notice before I changed the doors and burned it down?
That's what I was thinking. I would all care about their severance. What kind of severance
do you give them? Yeah, right.
Dude, it would just be, listen, the fire alarm is going to go off at noon and I'll be pouring
kerosene.
And it's not fake.
Yeah. I'll be the guy with the kerosene and the and the torch that will be me.
Um, do you think he's going to be able to drain the swamp?
Yeah, there you go. Pat. Nice. Do I think he's gonna, you know, look, I think we have problems
that are far greater. I think anybody who's I don't want a black pill or whatever, I'm not that kind of guy.
But on the other hand, we've got, we've got 35 trillion in debt.
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But on the other hand, the U S the one thing it's always been the one thing this, the U S has always surprised even history with is its ability is our
economic power when, when the U S truly unleashes its economic might.
I mean, that was the thing that the Japanese
noted in World War II. Victor Davis Hansen pointed that out in his book. He said that a year after
Pearl Harbor, there were planes that hadn't been built taking off from runways that hadn't been
built on islands near Japan, dropping bombs on Japan. Like just a year, in a year.
And he's like, my dad was a gunner in one of those.
So in one year-
Meaning that really fast.
Bro, maybe it was two years, I don't know,
whatever it is, but look it up.
But there were aircraft taking off
doing the daylight bombing runs of Tokyo in 40 whatever.
Right?
Those aircraft hadn't even been thought of yet.
Oh.
At the beginning of the war. And so within like two years, the US had, and they were
taking off from runways that had never existed on islands that had been Japanese. You know
what I mean? Like, yeah, if you were the Japanese, how could you possibly have defend against
a plane that didn't even exist yet. Right.
You know what I mean?
Like our ability, when push comes to shove, when the US economy, when US traditionally,
it's like we are capable of building shit and innovating.
Look at, hey, look at what Elon's done.
Despite all the clutching and grabbing and regulatory bullshit that guy has to deal with.
Look at what that guy did.
That rocket catch, the reusable rocket and them catching that giant booster back is an
unbelievable accomplishment.
Unbelievable accomplishment.
You and I have some swamp creatures and we know some of the biggest in particular. There's one guy
I'm thinking is one of the biggest swamp creatures that's
Ever lived and you know, you and I have hung out with him a lot and he's a really nice guy
Even though he's just like you would picture. He's just a pussy cuck
My sons could beat him up but
I'm hearing that he's completely freaking out like he's seeing the boogeyman. I was with Greg.
You were?
Yeah.
Okay.
I mean, that's crazy.
That's wild, right?
Because there is this whole machine.
I don't know if it's a billion dollar or a hundred billion dollar machine, but Trump
talked about it in the Rogan podcast where it's the people who navigate.
They collect money and help you navigate
through the swamp, right? Through the morass of regulation stuff. This guy, and this guy's is
connected as anyone. He's probably met with fucking every president and you know, probably the last
four or five presidents. Do you think that that's a good sign, right? That that guy's, I mean that
guy's... He's shitting his pants.
That guy's terrified, like you were terrified,
like a little kid.
Remember when your feet couldn't be outside the blanket
because the monster would come out from underneath the bed?
That kind of crazy shit.
Yeah, there are a lot of people who are
It's like he's losing his shit, dude.
Yeah, and again, who knows?
Like a lot of that's in his head, I don't know.
I think there are a lot of, you know,
could he do it?
Hey, listen, nobody's a bigger cheerleader for cutting government than I am. It's funny, somebody said if the government was cut by two trillion, that to me, that's not even close to enough.
That was a number Elon's thrown out.
Yeah. Elon said cut two trillion, right? And everybody freaks out. If you cut $2 trillion off of where we are now, that would bring you back to the government in 2000. They were 4.2 trillion or something is what the government was. I remember when Reagan had the first trillion
dollar budget. Right. So for so let me ask you when in the government in 2000, does anybody
think like, Oh, yeah, it was like libertarian paradise. And remember how free marketing
was like when the government was getting four billion? Like, do you have any sense in your
head of any time in America when you were like, man, there's like, like, there's gonna
be a massive outbreak of freedom next week. You know, like, I'm not, I just don't. We've got a lot
of people, a lot of people who are dependents. Yeah, that's I'm not that's not depressing. I
just take the world as I see it. You know? How are you on time? Are you good on time? Yeah,
it. You know? How are you on time? Are you good on time? Yeah, I'm good. Okay. And so like, is it, is it possible or maybe is there this latent groundswell for freedom that's
gonna happen? I don't know. You know, you asked me about the election to talk about that.
One of the things I was talking to someone yesterday about, they asked me about what's
he doing? Like, what's Trump doing campaigning in New York? What's that about?
And I'll tell you what I think it's about.
I think it's actually a cagey,
I think he's a savvy politician.
People forget he had a show.
I never watched The Apprentice,
but I mean, a lot of people did, loved it.
And he's the ultimate, he's PT Barnum.
He's gonna win.
And it's because he's better at retail politics
than the Democrats are.
That's why they hate him.
That's what the screeching at democracy is all about.
He's gonna be like, yeah, democracy bitches. Look, I got more votes.
Like I won in all 50 states. I, you know, like, yeah. And that's why like, uh, they said today,
it looks like New Hampshire might flip for the first time in like however many years, you know,
he might win New Hampshire. He's up now there. The Republican governor in New Hampshire is up four
points. He's also going to carry a bunch of Republicans across the line in the Senate. There's been a realignment of coalitions,
you know, and Trump represents the large working majority. He's taken Democratic sensibilities and
policies, what would have been middle of the road Democratic policies, and he's refashioned them.
He's taken over. He's taken the Republican Party hostage. So yeah, he has done some unique things and is it possible
that he'll just go through there and start slashing things? Yes. And, but then you get back to the
machinery, you know. The other thing is, let me say one thing about the machinery. He's going to
be going up against a lot. The problem is it's not just a single machine. What you have are multiple different, I try to tell people you should think about Washington DC
politics in light of Game of Thrones. You should watch Game of Thrones and then just
decide who you think in the modern world looks like the Tyrell family, and who is the Lannisters,
and who are the Starks, and who are the... Because what goes on there, there are all these
different coalitions of people. It's not a uniform, it's not one giant single monolithic
entity, but it's like 10 or 12 different kinds of coalitions of entities that a lot of whom swim
in the same direction and are served by the same policies. But when push comes to shove,
you start to see the knives come out. Like for Joe Biden, when it looked like he would lose an
election, they stuck a knife in his back so fast. I mean, that was like the John Snow up at the wall
when all his own guys shanked him. Joe Biden got absolutely prison shanked by his own party, who he'd been a
loyal stooge for 40 plus years.
And so it would, you'd be remiss to not consider the degree to which there's infighting and
all kinds of savagery going on behind the scenes up there that you just, you
can't even begin to imagine. But it is that vicious. Are you think they're going to try to
kill him again? Yeah. It's too much money on the line. Yeah. I mean, too much power, too much money.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if I were him, man, I gotta say, I've been impressed.
I didn't, you know, I always thought he was kind of a pussy and you can't fake what he
did when he got shot, you know, and he had the, he had the stones to do it.
And I think he's an old school guy like that.
You know, he's whatever he's fatty sloppy, but you know, you never know how people are
going to react in the same way.
You didn't know who the people were who were going to betray you over the
Vax or whatever.
You know, in the same way you didn't know who were going to become the screaming scolds
and you know, and like you're talking about the guy who's shitting his pants.
Like you never know until you until people get squeezed.
God, there's so many things I want to make up. So I was watching the Trump rally
Madison Square Garden, and there were a bunch of Kamala supporters there. And it was so fucking
peaceful between these, you know, 100 Kamala supporters and the fucking 200,000 Trump supporters.
If it was the other way around, you never fucking see that. Do you? You would have seen you know
what I mean? If you would have had 200 Trump supporters outside of Kamala rally they would have fucking they had a fucking blasted they had a fucking blasted
uh those people um if if if Kamala wins I don't think there's gonna be riots but if Trump wins
I think shit's gonna burn yes it is yes it is right of course it is and it wouldn't surprise me
if you see it wouldn't surprise me to see a declaration of martial law. It wouldn't surprise me to see a we can't we're not going to be able
to because you know who would have to deal with it. Biden just made it so that the US military
last month can use lethal force. Yeah, that's been I've seen that. 27th or something it passed.
Yeah, that's none of that's a surprise to me. Um, While they're accusing him of saying he's going to use us troops on citizens. They're passing rules
This is fucking it's it's nuts
I it wouldn't it wouldn't surprise me to see a declaration of martial law between the election and the certification
and
It wouldn't surprise me to see kamala
The press start floating stories about her not
having like the indignity of her having to, because she would be the one to have to certify
the election.
She's the vice president.
So so it was Pence the last time.
And that's why on the right hates Pence, Judas Pence and all that.
But Kamala would have to certify Trump's win.
You think she's going to do that?
I don't.
Do you honestly think she's gonna certify that? Is gonna go up there and be like,
and here I am.
And certify Trump as the president?
You think that's never got shot?
Yeah, I've seen that.
Sorry.
What is that?
I don't get that.
I don't get it.
There are people who said it was all staged.
He didn't get shot.
I've gone down that rabbit hole. I've read all I'm gonna read on that and sorry disagree.
We'll have to disagree on that one. But I highly encourage other conspiracy theorists continue to
flourish. We all believe crazy shit and so nobody should be hard and feathered because you know
what the most compelling I believe crazy shit too everybody does we just don't admit it. The
most compelling evidence is when I hear him say, God, I was embarrassed because I
lost my shoes and the way my hair looked and I was disheveled. I heard him have a moment
of like, he was a little embarrassed about it. And I'm like, all right.
Well, he's known to be a fastidious guy. I'm not surprised by that. He's kind of known to be a, a, yeah, a wildly fastidious guy.
And so he probably did not just being all, I don't think he appreciated,
I believe it a hundred percent. I don't think he fully grocks yet,
you know, but he's still saying Trump's assassination was staged as dumb as
saying the Dems actively tried.
Yeah, I don't, I, I would say the Dems actively, I'll, I don't say the Dems actively. I'll,
I'll withhold judgment on somebody. Somebody wanted them dead. I don't, I don't believe it
was just that deranged guy. I think that guy was probably pushed to push in that direction. But
even if he wasn't, um, uh, yeah, Jeffrey Burschfield, uh, Trump didn't say anything
substantive in my opinion. I'll give Vance listen I Jeff I
respect the fuck out of you I'd like to hear your thoughts on that here's the
thing that we got with Trump we got so many peaks behind the fucking curtain
that we've I've never gotten from like when he tells the Tim Cook store did you
listen to it I've heard pieces of it not the whole thing he talks about how he
just got off the phone with Tim Cook or he talks about how someone called him and
told him the CEO of Google called him and told him how good the McDonald's thing
was doing. He talked about Tom Pompeo was telling him, hey, I really don't think you
should look at the JFK files. He talks about tariffs and the importance of tariffs. God,
I thought it was really substantive. But I'm open like, you explained to me like, well, or something. I thought it was just full. I
mean, some stories were really long. Yeah. But man, I haven't.
I don't think I've never heard a president ever talk. So just
Yeah, so so hard. So much. Yeah, it was crazy. Yeah, I think
that people don't have the same. Probably this is one of the
Yeah, that's so funny. I think that yeah, I love him, Dale.
Yeah, I know. It's weird because I'm a Boston guy. And so by by
nature, I'm required to hate him. That's just the C's from
New York. He's a New York New Yorker. I was living there in
8086. I was a New England kid living in Queens. And Donald
Trump was the guy and I and it was the year the Mets beat the
Red Sox. My heart was broken. I was a junior in high school. It was traumatic for me. I was so fucking
joking. No, no, not even a little. I was living in enemy territory when the Red Sox lost in
86. It was horrifying. So I'm a New England kid. I grew up in Providence, you know. So
I was I tell people like he reminds me so much Trump reminds me so much of my uncle Jeff Nella who was from I hope my aunt doesn't hear this he's dead now but and their divorce but my uncle Jeff was like he was from Flushing Queens and he had his own
and play basketball and like he was, he was just like Trump. He would do everything was like this.
He'd be like, I could do my uncle Jeff.
He'd be like, oh, New York's the best.
We get the best everything we got.
What do we got that?
What don't we have?
New York's got everything.
What don't we have?
Oh, we don't have a fucking desert.
California's got a desert.
Who needs a fucking desert?
Stupid.
We got lakes, we got mountains.
We got the Knicks.
We got the best team ever, the Yankees.
My, you could see my dad was trying to not chew off
the inside of his lip when we would go visit them
for Christmas.
It was my mother's sister, so my aunt, it was her husband.
He was a New Yorker.
And so they lived in New York and we would go there.
Oh my God.
He was, and so I come at, Trump comes at me
through that filter.
But now after living there and like my stepdad's
from New York too, he's like, looks like Archie bunker. He even has that same accent.
And now I see it very, very differently. It doesn't, it doesn't bother me.
It's a, it's an aft fact. You have to realize that he's always been that way.
So I, I never liked East coast men either. I mean,
the prototypical stereotypical East command, every time I went to New York,
anytime I went to a camera store anywhere, it was like,
everyone was always trying to shut.'s what's for me to hear
you talk about Trump because you hate people. Yeah, and sell you shit. And it was just Yeah,
it was that affect. And I don't know if he has. I don't know if I've changed or if he has. He's a
grandfather now and he sort of relaxed his it's so great, we're the biggest, we're
the best.
Or maybe it's just the chopping off of penises of kids in California.
I don't know.
I'm not sure what's happened, but I am so ready for the experiment.
Right.
And I understand why a lot of people are terrified
of the experiment. I'm so ready. Like I want to see what's going to happen when you shut
down the Department of Education. I want to see what's happening. I'm ready. I'm ready
to I'll buy my first American car. Because he's going to give me a note. He's going to
let me do that. I'm ready. Yeah. I'm like, this is how much of a patriot I've become. It's so fucking weird. I think
if he becomes president, I think I just might go out and buy an American minivan. Oh, man.
Do you know what I mean? Just just cuz just cuz he put you totally. Yeah, he's totally got me. Yeah,
I'm totally I want to participate in the. Yeah, in the in the you well, part of it is to like,
once you're on this side, and you know, you've been getting kicked for the, in the, well, part of it is too, like once you're on this side and you,
you know, you've been getting kicked for awhile. Yeah.
And a big part of it that people don't talk about is, Hey man, you know,
the, the American male has been shat upon pretty thoroughly for,
I don't know, probably a solid 40, 45 years now. And maybe he had it coming.
You know, I don't know, you can make that argument, but the snapback might be epic
and probably justified, quite frankly.
Jesus, dude, you're just as brainwashed
as the liberals are, fair, all right, fine.
Andrew Hiller, you had kids, yeah, maybe.
That's nice. I had kids and Greg mugged. Yeah, Greg proposed that idea to me.
He's like, hey, maybe the other night he gave me like a fucking 20 minute dissertation on
the West Coast male not liking the East Coast male.
And you know what it might be to my part of it.
It's like the bravado and the strength
and the crassness and the lack of political correctness.
Yeah, that we had beat into us as West Coast males, right?
Like, hey, you can't use oriental carpet anymore.
It's now Middle Eastern carpet, or you know, all this shit that's just constantly changing
for us.
Yeah, I'll tell you, one of my favorites is. So here's the
difference between the West Coast and the East Coast. I love I this is a stupid
dad joke, but I love it. So my daughter was my daughter was
and he's a West Coast male.
That's always the East Coast impression is always that this guy's as soft as baby shit. So my daughter and her crew team
were carrying their shell that we're getting ready to race
early in the morning when this is when Rachel road crew in high
school. You can check this one Rachel. So they were and you
know, I could see their generation starting to be
inculcated to that political correctness stuff. So they were
carrying the shell, they got it off the thing and they were all carrying it and all of a sudden
they were like, oh, wait a minute, we got to switch positions. And so the girls started like,
you know, for carrying the boat, they were like, hey, switch around. And one of the girls goes,
Chinese fire drill. And so they all started switching positions to re-orient, to carry the
boat. And I said, and I was standing there watching them,
and then they kind of stopped and looked at me,
and I went, girls, I believe that's Asian American fire drill.
And the girls were like, and they all looked and got quiet,
and then they started cracking up,
and then they took the shell and went away.
And I mean, you don't appreciate that. I think it was
Dalrymple, Theodore Dalrymple had a great thing about, about political correctness and what it,
what purposes it serves. But you know, the fact that you have to, Greg, his old man had a great
one. The fact that you put political in front of it tells you that it means the exact opposite.
Right.
Politically correct as opposed to what?
Like regular correct?
You know what I mean?
Like it's-
And you've heard the thing with the Russian KGB agent
talk about how political correctness
was just to sigh out the Russians used.
Yeah, people lose their probity.
When there are things that are deemed politically incorrect,
that is you can't say them, then
there's no lie that can't be foisted on you.
You lose your probity as a people.
Margaret Mead might have said there's somebody like that.
I never knew Chinese fire drill.
That's funny.
It's considered offensive in North America, and it's a prank in which the passengers of
a motor vehicle that has stopped at an intersection get out of the vehicle and circle it and return
to their seats. Oh, why do they call it state it shows a state of confusion. It's like saying
Chinese people are confused. I don't know. It's no I always thought it was more like
the whole way early 1900s. A ship run by British officers in the Chinese group practice a fire
drill for a fire in the engine room. Nice. Nice. There you go. So it's got an origin. Oh, all right. Yeah. Yeah, that sounds
fine. Yeah. Yeah. It's an Asian American fire drill. Oh, we, um, from a Chinese woman. We have a
Honda plant here in Ohio. Oh, all right. Maybe I'll, maybe I'll, maybe I'll buy a Honda. No,
someone said the Sienna factory was in Indiana, so I can still buy a Sienna and shit in it, you know
it's funny the Japanese and have probably invested more in the United States and building a
Car manufacturing here because they didn't they didn't want to be like subject to that kind of thing
So a bunch of and it's funny a bunch of Ford is made overseas and so a lot of it is like there's we don't have
full full
scale integrated manufacturing the way we used to
um defund the police and uh black on black uh crime skyrockets crime in the united states skyrockets
um i i know i'm forcing that correlation or that cause on the conversation that's the presupposition
defund the police prime crime skyrockets black black on black crime skyrockets, black deaths, young
males in the United States fucking skyrockets to all time highs.
And no, you're not forcing that.
In fact, it's not just a correlation.
It's a mathematical causation in the sense that because the numbers statistically of
black males kill black males more than anybody else does. I mean,
that's not a stereotype. That's a statistical fact. You know, it's the same way males kill way more
people than females. Right. Right. If you're talking about, yeah. People will be like, it's
13% of the population committing 51% of the murders. I'm like, actually, no, it's only 6%.
I'm like, actually, no, it's only 6%. They're like, what do you mean?
I'm like, the black chicks ain't doing it.
Yeah.
But anyway, of course, skin color is definitely a correlation and there's no cause there.
It's not like you're born black and you're going to fucking just kill people.
Right.
No, no, no.
But it's but in terms of the mathematical reality of it, when policing goes away, if
more, if gang violence goes up and more blacks are in gangs and killing people, just as a
mathematical thing, it's going to make the numbers. I mean, that's just kind of the way it is. If more, if gang violence goes up and more blacks are in gangs and killing people, just
as a mathematical thing, it's going to make the numbers.
I mean, that's just going to happen.
So, if there was one unjustified police killing, the, the status is that there were 12 unarmed
black men killed.
And that's why the defund, you know, and then George Floyd pushed over there.
But, but all 12 of them resisted arrest.
But let's just say all 12 of them were unjustifiably killed, and now we have an extra thousand
black men who were killed after defunding the police.
So you're like, okay, shit, that didn't work.
I want to tie this to Israel.
How many fucking Palestinians have to fucking die before an Arab country opens the border
and lets them fucking in?
Why the fuck won't Egypt fucking open that
fucking border and let the fuck at least let the at least let the unaccompanied at least let the
children and the moms leave at least let the fucking women and kids leave why the fuck
how is that not like the biggest story in the world? The fucking Titanic is going down
and these people are refusing to fucking,
what the fuck is going on over there?
Why aren't we flying planes in by the fucking thousands
and evacuating the women and children?
Yeah, cause nobody cares.
And the countries over there don't want them.
For the same reason they didn't want to take back,
like when we tried to empty out Gitmo,
a lot of people were claiming that Gitmo was like,
well, you just arrested innocent people wandering around
and it's criminal and all that.
And so people were like, okay,
this guy says he's from this place.
And we tried to send a lot of these people back
and those countries were like, yo, no.
Oh no, that guy's not coming back here. Get the fuck
out of here. And so, like, I mean, you have that issue to
nobody wants ever talks about it. Look, nobody ever talks about
any of this stuff. Because everybody wants simple cookie
cutter, you know, aphorisms to the little clip, the five second
clip, no one wants to talk serious. People have the
attention span to talk about serious solutions.
There's gotta be a priority, right? There's got, I don't even know what you're talking
about. Is Sevan feeling guilty now? For what? I don't even know what the fuck you're talking
about. Guilty for what? There's a hierarchy, right, Dale? It's a breathe and then eat and
then fucking in shelter, right? I mean, there's like, like that. Yeah. Right. Okay. Um,
so there's got to be a hierarchy in terms of you want the land, but you want to be alive. Well,
all the people who aren't willing to die for the land, why not give them a fucking exit strategy?
Yeah. Again, the people are all my relatives ran. So did your relatives. That's why me and you were
alive today and flourishing United States. Our relatives fucking like fuck this. We're out. Yeah. Yeah. At some
point. Yep. Yeah. I'm so glad my relatives ran. Hey, how do you feel about this? Take that notion
to its farthest point. I wonder how I'll feel like post Trump and you know what happens when the debt gets to 40 trillion and all that?
And so I wonder at what point, or what if the censorship doesn't go away? What if Trump's not
able to stop that? What if in four years, what if he gets a bullet? And so at what point will you
see, and this is why I say the expropriations come next, at some point you'll see we're
not, again, I don't see an outbreak of freedom coming anytime soon. And the expropriations
will start, they'll start seizing companies, like suddenly SpaceX will have to be seized
by the state, or Tesla will have to be property of the state. They'll start expropriating
property and you'll see the capital flight. And so are we, will we wind up in 10 years being like our generations ago and have to flee the US and go maybe go back to Europe? I don't know, maybe go somewhere else. You know, it looks like there's a spring back starting in, in, in the EU. I mean, do I have to move to Switzerland or, you know, in order to just be able to live my own life and be left alone? I mean, how long before the capital flight
out of the US starts? I wonder about all these people who are saying they're going to leave
if I saw a guy being interviewed in New York wearing a mask and he's like, if Trump gets
elected, I'm leaving. And I hear my wife say good. Adios muchachos.
Breaking news JD Vance is going on Joe Rogan tomorrow this could be the final nail in the
Harris coffin.
That coffins already that's already that's already over with.
They're already counting people forget the election now as a process and it started a
while ago and I think probably the forces that are at play I'm not saying don't go out
and vote because it depends on everybody kind of doing
on election day what they normally would. But I'm suggesting there are already trends.
That's why you see Democrats panicking and shitting their pants. Forces are already in
play that strongly suggest that Trump's on his way to a landslide, like a Reagan-Mondale
kind of 312 to 226 kind of beat down electorally.
And by the way, I never got to this point.
I think that's why he went to New York and why he went elsewhere is I think he's trying
to win the popular vote as well.
I think your idea about that he wants to do big things, the only way you can do that and
the justification for that has to be that I had a mandate.
And so I think you see him campaigning in places, he's not going to win New York and he knows he's not going to win New York. He'll say, Oh, it's in play. It's
in play. What he really wants to do is, you know, people, Republicans have always been
dissuaded from voting in elections where they thought they didn't have a chance at all,
like in California and all that. It's not like there are no Republicans. I mean, look
at San Diego County, you know, I was just there, like my Uber driver was bitching about
all the politics going on California. I was laughing laughing. But of course, he was an Uber driver picking me up in
Encinitas. But there are a lot of people who don't vote because they're like, I has no point.
They're discouraged. And then Democrats come out and go, oh, you can't even win the popular vote.
And it's like, well, that's because I'm in a team blue state. It doesn't matter what I do. The city is going to override it. I think what Trump's trying
to do is energize Republicans to go out and vote so that when the final tallies are done, you know,
instead of losing New York, say, you know, 70, 30 or, you know, something like that, maybe he only
loses New York by 58 to 42 and percent. And what that means is he got a ton of New York by 58 to 42 percent.
What that means is he got a ton of New Yorkers, of Republicans to come out, Team Red, to vote
and overall, in the overall total, he still lost.
But it might mean at the end when you count all the places where he did win and you tally
up all the votes, he might also win the popular vote.
I think that's what he's trying to do.
He wants a mandate.
He wants to be able to say, Hey, not only did what do
you mean, democracy? What do you mean, you guys won't turn over
the keys? I mean, I got I got 50. Or I got, you know, 86
million votes, and she only got 81. What are you talking about?
I mean, I want even by your rules, I want the popular vote.
I smoked you in the electoral vote. I've got a mandate, man.
And, and by the way, the Republicans are going to win the
Senate. I don't know if they're gonna win the house, but they're gonna at least have if Trump wins
I and I think he will they'll have the Senate as well for sure
That's just the maps very favorable for them this time around a guy said that they were interviewed in Madison Square Garden
He said hey, what's crazy is this four years ago?
If you were a Trump supporter you had to be closeted and that's why this is so important that this is happening now because it's letting us finally fucking like, we're growing is that
it's important. It's important. What was that? It's important that people feel like they
have a voice and it's um, uh, it's a relief valve of nothing else. People don't understand
elections are what we use in lieu of sharp sticks. That's it. We use elections as in
lieu of political violence. That's the whole point.
We're supposed to do that instead of stabbing each other in the face. It's a proxy for tribal
warfare. It would be better if we all understood that and kind of toned it down a little. And
so we don't wind up using sticks, but you got people who are fundamentally, you know,
they get the one ring in their hand and they're not giving it up.
Seve, in the past, countries like Jordan and Lebanon have let in Palestinians in the past and they started civil war and Egypt was
has let them in the past and they caused civil unrest.
Saban, you sound like a libtard here saying we should let all the people fleeing from the
cartel countries inside our border. No, not all of them, just the women and children. And Pat, we actually have been doing that for decades.
So, and the thing is, 1.5 billion Muslims.
Oh, I don't want to get into that.
I want to say one more thing.
Another thing I'm realizing, Dale, the biggest shift in mentality for me was realizing I don't, just because I'm not a Christian
and I don't believe in God, that I don't feel... Is my mic's working okay?
Yeah.
That I don't feel the obligation. As a young man, you feel this obligation because you
haven't been called by God, so then you spend your whole life trying to prove he's not real.
And at some point through hanging out with you and Greg and other people you're like, hey dude chill the fuck out those people
But and then I probably since I had kids my morals and my values started aligning with Christian values
And at one point I'm like, holy fuck we need these people but there's people all around me who really what they're saying
I hear the undercurrent is for some reason they just hate Christianity like my whole life
They're taking these subtle digs at Christianity, but now all of a sudden
they're okay with whatever the capital of Missouri is, them doing a five times prayer
over loudspeakers a day there.
Oh, you're right.
They call it the cult of prayer.
But they would have never allowed that if it was Christian prayer.
And I'm just like, wow, what the fuck is going on?
These people, I think, and by the way,
hate God and hate Christianity. Yeah. It's always, that's been noticeable.
That, that's been a noticeable trend and noticeable to those of us who, you know,
believe for a long time is that it was never, the claim that it was always about keeping religion free from the square and not mixing religion and state was always a specious claim.
Because there were always all kinds of other supernatural things that they were willing to believe in.
It was really just replacing Christianity and an outright hostility to Christianity, not like, again, like you talk about the whole love of Muslims unequivocally.
And I'm like, hey, man, you go to a lot of countries, you know, homosexuality will get
you thrown off a building. You know, you do understand that, right?
Not not figuratively, literally.
Yeah, that's not a that's not a that's not an analogy or a parable.
Right. You know? Yeah.
It's it's fascinating to me. I wish I could explain that to more people. Do you think that as human beings, I don't really have an understanding for it. I have a pretty third-grade understanding for it.
But that we have some sort of compartment in our brain, a section of our brain that has to hold a paradigm of religion. So that when people say I'm not religious,
basically they're lying to themselves.
They are religious.
They have something in there, whether it's CNN,
whether it's the Christian Bible,
but there is a part of your brain
that needs some sort of operating system to run, to take.
And so when someone says I'm not religious,
that's like a red flag, right?
It's like, oh shit, they're taking orders from something that they don't even know what it is. At least the Christians
like, oh, there's my book and those are my values. I'm transparent. I just wrote, I just wrote a
three things about this and entitled, uh, just last week. It's so funny you bring this up to me,
but called who needs philosophy. And Ayn Rand wrote an essay about that. It gave a lecture at,
in 76, I think, at West Point.
But the fundamental question is, you know,
who needs philosophy?
And the answer is, of course, we all do.
And if you don't, what you wind up with is a mishmash
of incoherent, contradictory beliefs
that in no way can be rectified with one another. And so I think,
you know, call it philosophy, call it religion, call it whatever, you need a belief system in order
to act. That's that's kind of the nature of our existence. And if you don't have that, you'll,
there's nothing that you can't be. You'll be next to what Greg's line, you know, you'll be next in
line. You don't want to be first in line for the next scam. And it's like, well, how do you, how do you not fall for
that? You know, well, a coherent understanding of what you believe and why, and an examination
of your own kind of interior monologue, you know, you got to start there and interrogate
yourself. Why do I believe what I believe? Why does something bother me? Why do I get
all aggravated over that? You know, what is it about that the bottom requires some introspection, but you, you can, there's
some exercises you can do when I put a couple up there on my, on my website about that,
my substance, the sub stack is the abject lesson, the abject, uh, S S O N. Hey, um, what would be, what would be fascinating if there was a way to stress test all the
fucking crazy ideas you have as a kid.
So you know, as a kid in college, you're like, accept everyone, love everyone.
If you know the, the, the love ever treat everyone like you want to be treated under
all circumstances, never kill anyone, just all these ideas you have and then somehow stress test it. Like grab that person and put them in a virtual
reality world and be like, okay, here's a woman being raped. You have a gun in your hand. What
are you going to do? Well, I mean, we have out the door, flying out the door of like love everyone,
accept everyone. No, it's, it's not so much that. Philosophy should, but it should be tested
against reality always. It should always be tested against reality. And that's the piece
I'm working on now, which is about killing and Dave Grossman's book on killing and Michael
Giglieri's. In fact, I got it right here. You caught me right in the middle of
In fact, it's right, I got it right here. You know, you caught me right in the middle
of The Dark Side of Man by Gigliari.
This would be, today would get him,
I don't think he could do this.
This guy was studied apes under Jane Goodall.
He was a platoon, he was an army platoon sergeant in Vietnam,
but he had always been a,
the guy has all kinds of crazy history,
but he studied primates was his principal thing
for his master's thesis.
And then he wrote this book, The Dark Side of Man.
And it's all about like chapter one is like
the differences between the sexes, you know?
All of chapter one is born to be bad.
It's all about men and male violence, who commits it,
who, why, what are the numbers, you know?
But also like what's the behavioral basis for it. Yeah, why, what are the numbers, you know, but also like, what's the behavioral
basis for it? Yeah, it's a it's a fascinating book. So you can, you can believe a lot of
things, but it ought to be grounded in the sort of reality of what we are. You know,
we're all capable of doing bad shit under the right under the right circumstances.
Yeah, all of us. It reminds
me of this line Greg's been sharing with me I think he saw it in a Victor David
Hansen maybe I can't remember where he heard it but he's sharing with me that
when you build a society and its goal is maximum tolerance which is like you know
what you're taught you know at least as a Lib Tard in California maximum
tolerance and I still like that. You have to
have something in place, because you are going to breed maximum intolerance inside of that vessel of maximum tolerance. That's
what that, that's the danger inside of that vessel. And it's like, holy shit. And that's what's happened. That we have built, we
have built a cohort of people who have max, they have such
maximum intolerance that they're willing to kill people who have even the slightest bit of
intolerance. My intolerance is molesting kids and chopping off penises, right? And so they're
willing to fucking come after me for that because I'm not fitting the mold of maximum tolerance.
That shit needs to be fucking stress tested. Well, I guess it is, societally now.
I was going to say, we're doing it right now.
Are you okay with Iran having nuclear weapons? Are you okay
with them wanting people to be let people have nuclear weapons
who their singular goal and mission as stated by them is to
exterminate all Jews. It's like, I don't know if I'm tolerant of
that. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know you stress
tested me like I want to be,
but um it's pie, at some points pie in the sky shit. Jethro, he's a police officer, just went to early vote on Long Island four hour wait. Wow crazy. Yeah, I've been hearing the same.
We're trying to figure out what we're gonna do. It'll be all right here. I mean, you know some
states you can't even vote in person. I think, I think, uh, I think Oregon you can't even vote in
person. I think it's only,
is that true? Is it only mail-in ballots? That seems wrong. I don't think that could be right.
I can't vote in person or again, is that? Wait. Oh no, I guess they do have, oh wait.
I think you have to have in-person voting and you have to. I think so. Who
knows like early person voting rules state by state who cannot vote. Anyway, I was on
a call yesterday. I got the download of a call yesterday from people who watch these
things closely.
I think that's what people don't understand.
There's a lot that goes on behind elections, like counting ballot returns and all that.
There's an entire apparatus there.
Is the information public on the county?
No, a lot of counties don't have the wherewithal to kind of have everything, you know, electronic and all that. So a lot of it comes from political operatives who, you know, that's, that's one of the things that the parties do have that is why they kind of exist and others don't is they've been around a long time and they've got people on the ground who report to them about, you know, they've got people there in the county recorder's office who are as soon as it's done, they're like,
they get a copy, they go and fax it or, you know,
do whatever to get it to wherever it needs to go.
So like they have access to info that most people don't
and they watch that stuff, you know,
there's already election litigation going on right now.
Already?
Yeah, already.
There've been several,
the fifth circuit just had a huge opinion that came out
and they said that you can't count votes.
It doesn't matter if they were postmarked before, if they show up after the deadline, if they show up.
Nice. Good for you, Marissa.
The Fifth Circuit said that they're not allowed to take ballots after Election Day they were like hey in the they interpret the Constitution that
when it was fixed for a day of voting it didn't mean that if ballots were
marked before and show up after that that's okay they're like no it's it's
got to be there on the day that the vote counting is done the fifth or you're out
of luck we'll see if that holds up.
So your shit's even posted. Well, I guess it, when you drop that ballot in the, I mean,
I'm fucking no lawyer, but I'm guessing when you drop, I'm guessing that every ballot box
or post office box is property of the U S government. And so if you drop something in
a box, it's now belongs to the U S government. And so if you drop it in there before the fifth or on the fifth, it's theirs.
They got it.
Yeah, I don't think so.
No, no, no, that's not the fifth circuit.
So I haven't read the opinion, but the fifth circuit said the, that it just the, the fact
that you it's postmarked there, like, we don't care if it doesn't show up until November 6th.
And the day for election is fixed as November 5th. And now I guess you have to define what
it means to show up. Cause I'm thinking show up means it's like, Hey, you got it. It's
your rock. I mean, if you drop an ice cream cone in a fucking mailbox, you're in big fucking
trouble. Yep. I did that as a kid. Oh, really? Yeah. I don't think I ever came up with that one. Damn.
Like, you know, those blue boxes? Yeah. No, I take them back. We used to throw snow in them.
Yeah. I wasn't gonna throw an ice cream in it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty annoying.
No, I mean, I'm gonna give up a good ice cream for a mailbox.
Dale, when there are millions of mail-in ballots, like in 2020, they were all completed well before
election day. It's unconstitutional to- Yeah, Pat. It's not like that. It's different state
by state and they don't all count like some, uh, some places do a running, like they count
them as they go. Other states have a rule like no ballot is opened until we start counting
on the fifth. That's the thing. Yeah. All the other in-person ballots have to be counted
before mail in ballots or something. I saw once it depends. It's the day. Yeah, I've heard, yeah, all the in-person ballots have to be counted before mail-in
ballots or something. I saw it once.
It depends. It's state by state. The election laws in the 50 states are different. They
are very different across all 50 states.
What do you think about the Vegas odds? Do you think that's a valid form of tracking?
It's not invalid. It's probably got some predictive power. I don't know how often they're right
or wrong, but yeah, that's the old joke. The race goes not always to the swift or the battle to the strong,
but that's the way the smart money bets. And so, I would imagine that the people,
you would think that there's enough people with enough information that
the money might kind of tend to tell you something, but that's not always
true. I mean, a lot of people, no one would put a bet on Buster Douglas and he still,
you know, busted Mike Tyson's ass. You couldn't even put a bet on Buster Douglas.
Right.
You know, if it were a known thing, there wouldn't be betting. If the outcome were
knowable, then they wouldn't even be able to take odds.
Right.
And I bet you those odds, I think those odds don't take in cheating.
I think the odds are determined by people betting.
Right.
There's all kinds of things they don't take in.
I mean, what you're looking at though is just a sort of where people are putting their money
and, you know, they're putting their money on Trump
right now.
They think Trump's going to win.
She's bad.
She's a terrible, she's just a terrible candidate.
I mean, you know, say whatever you want about Trump, how bad he is, how awful, but Kamala
Harris is awful.
I mean, terrible, awful.
Like just maybe the worst presidential candidate we've ever had.
Like dumb and communist.
She's not, she couldn't, I bet you she's never read a single word of Karl Marx.
I mean, her beliefs might coincidentally line up with him,
but she's not some doctrinal Marxist.
I bet you she's never read anything.
Right.
You know, she's never read Foucault or, you know,
Hegel or Engels or Marx. You could still be a good communist though. You could still have that flawed fucking operators.
Her dad was a Marxist economist. I mean, that's a widely understood thing. So yeah, you could say
maybe she hasn't read anything, but that doesn't mean to say that she wasn't getting it at the
dinner table every night. You know, her old man was a Marxist professor at UC Berkeley, I think.
So yeah, I'm just saying she's not, she's not, there's, she's a blank slate. You don't see
anything out of her that looks like, like when she was Montel Williams girlfriend, nobody was like,
what a commie. You know what I mean? Nobody was listening to her, listening to her hold forth,
you know, with her little
red booklet on how mile got it right.
Nobody's ever heard that out of Kamala ever.
So, did you see the story of the, there's a guy, he wanted a sex change operation.
This is in California and he couldn't afford it.
So he, he looked up on like Craigslist or whatever and saw a yacht that was
for sale and he went on the yacht and he was taking a tour of the yacht and they went out and
they were riding in the yacht and he took the two owners of the yacht, a husband and wife, and tied
them to the anchor and threw them overboard and then went and then fished on their boat and drank
their beers and then came back and he went to jail and he's on death road Dale and he got a sex change.
Yes.
Yeah.
I'd say he's got a lot bigger problems than I don't mean he they we spent tax money on
fucking a sex change operation for him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's that's obviously stupid shit.
But this is where ideology lead you lead you to all kinds of crazy places.
There should be some rule that you can't get
a sex change operation if you're on death row
with taxpayers' money.
I mean, it's one of those like,
when I hear statements like that,
I'm almost, I don't even know how to take it.
There ought to be a rule that,
and then everything that follows that sentence
is like kind of insane. And you wonder if we're at the point where
that's what's going on, maybe, maybe rules aren't the problem
here that we've got deeper issues.
In here, right? Yeah. And here's the thing, not a single you you
couldn't find one single Republican who could justify
that you could blame the whole machine.
You could say, Republicans and Democrats are equally at fault for this happening.
But if you just stop Republicans on the street, no Republican is gonna be like,
is gonna back that up, not one.
But you are gonna find Democrats are gonna be like, yeah,
he had the right to medical care, it's part of our right.
It's like, hey man, what are you gonna do?
He's like, yeah, people believe
crazy shit. It's like the people who rip on the church for harboring pedophiles. And it's
like, okay, but they're not trying to normalize it. They're not trying. That's a big distinction
between the left and the church. You want to say all the bad shit you want about the
church. It's weird. A bunch of guys getting together hanging out reading
books and shit little kids lighting candles a lot but they're not trying to
normalize it those motherfuckers should be hiding and
scurrying around corners and in the dark and shit sprinkling water yes
sprinkling water crazy all right brother thank you so much love having you on
anytime buddy I love it how you're like you asked me it's like what are we gonna
talk about my god don't worry I was like should I prep anything? Should I get
anything together? No, no I'm just gonna wing this. All right cool. You're the best. You are um people
love it when you come on. You're like most popular. I like that you Greg and I independently of each
other all started growing beards. Yeah and I am. Yes I am. I'm gonna go a few months here I think.
I do too. I got oral argument in court in Tucson in three weeks and I was like, oh,
I'm at the point of like, I don't know, but I think it'll be good enough. So I'm going to hold out and
hopefully this turns into a majestic beard before I appear in court. Yeah, nice.
I don't look just like a homeless guy who wandered in on behalf of my client.
Where are you watching the election on the 5th?
Man, I don't know if I will be because we're going to be, it's going to be
fought about for nothing's going to be certain. I don't know. I might, I might just make sure I've
all my generators stocked up, you know, fueled up and make sure all that shit. I do not think
things are going to go well after this. I think you're going to see, we're going to see
shit go badly, but I don't know. Maybe, maybe not. Maybe I'll be wrong. Maybe the other side will
not lose their minds and burn shit down. But I have a feeling there's, I wouldn't be
surprised if we wind up with a declaration of martial law and shit goes bad. Wow. Yeah.
All right. Well, hey, I'll get us, let's go to Mar-a-Lago. God, wouldn't it be fun? Oh, that's great.
Yeah, whatever.
I'll be in touch with sources I have close by.
I've already heard some things that the,
internally their own polling, the campaign,
the everybody seems to know,
I've heard that the Kamala campaign knows
that they're tubing badly and that the Trump Vance campaigns,
their internal polling shows that they're doing well. They're very confident.
Really sane Democrats, like really sane Democrats I know, whatever the fuck that means, are sending
me posts showing that Donald Trump is signaling the Proud Boys with his gold tie.
And I'm like, even my same friends are losing their shit.
Yeah, losing their minds.
It's I mean, this is where it's at, man.
Like I said, you know, people are going through I wonder, look, I'll throw you one another
conspiracy theory to add to this before we get off.
Yeah. It it there are a long line of papers written about, um,
about vaccinating people with substances that could,
could be used to not mind control, but alter behavior,
make people a little more agitated, um, you know, with,
by via chemicals. And it shouldn't be crazy, agitated, yeah you know with by
Via chemicals and it shouldn't be crazy given the number of people who are taking SSRIs and right look at look at the
SSRI use among Democratic women look at the number of them who are yeah. Yeah, I
Mean the stats on Democrat women are crazy
They're crazy
Democrat women are crazy. They're crazy. And I don't mean it. That's what I don't mean that the women are crazy. That's that's a double entendre. I think right. Yeah. Yeah.
I think already a slip kind of maybe. Yeah. They're crazy. And the stats are crazy. You're
just like, Wow. Yeah. The Dems are in panic mode. Even David knows. Yeah. The Dems are
freaking out. Yeah. Hey, listen, if you're a Democrat, don't worry. Like, yeah, it's
gonna be fun. You you guys, listen, you guys are gonna be fine. The whole point is to leave
everyone alone. You you can still go to find the state you can still kill babies, you'll
still be able to get sex change operations. We're we still love all our gay friends just
won't be able to enforce it on the rest of us. You'll just have to shut the fuck up for a while. Just be cool. For four years, you're just going to have
to pipe down and shut the fuck up like the rest of us have. We're not, we don't care if you're black
or a Jew or like no one cares. We're just, things are just going to be normal for a second. Yeah,
just, we just need a breather. We're just going to take four years. Just take a fucking breath
from your bullshit. That's all. Yeah. Everything's cool. You can still do all the crazy shit you want to do.
Still do Aspen, San Francisco, still needle exchanges. Don't worry. Yep. Yeah. The ass
sex will still be around. Don't worry. Yeah, that's fine. I'll talk to you later. All right.
Love you, Dale. Bye. Oh, Jesus there the ass sex will still be around
No, uh November 11th or 12th when Chris Cooper comes on we will be doing the
They get the affiliate prize money giveaway
So that could that kind of worked out good since it's his fucking money.
Two Brain Business put up the money for the...
Something's wrong with my mic.
I'm hearing crackling or something.
I don't know what's going on.
I don't know if it's my mic or the road cast or what.
Caller, hold on one second.
Let me reboot up the phone here.
How can there be so many technical... I guess I shouldn't complain about the technical difficulties.
It's a miracle that I can fucking do this, any of this. So fine. Hey, caller, what's
up? Yo.
Seve. What's up, dude?
That dude was awesome. Oh my god, isn't Dale Rad? I hey, I need to ask him. I think he had to go to the bathroom.
Like I recognize that.
I think I recognize that he had to pee.
You can hold the show down by yourself.
No problem.
Let him go.
Yeah, I did.
I did.
But but but I mean, I'm just impressed if I noticed that I'm dying to text him.
Hey, did you have to pee?
I'm gonna text him now.
Did you have to pee?
Ask him now.
Yeah, well, what's up with you? I'm gonna text him now. Did you have to pee ask him now? Yeah, well, what's up with you?
I don't think he did. Hey, uh, are you guys having a watch party Tuesday? Yeah, we're gonna
I'm gonna try to do like a six-hour show
We're starting when and you're gonna have different people on and who's gonna be on I don't know
I've invited I invited Froning. I'd like to invite Dale. I've invited Hiller Josh bridges
hunter
Adalton Rasta the Bellator fighter
Pat Lang
So
Taylor could be okay because if it does go to harris, we might want to we might have some contents there with him breaking down
Like it won't won't be pretty for any of us, but it'll be real ugly for him just because of his prediction
Yeah, yeah, he's very invested in in Trump winning like we all are but he could why because you think they're gonna because they're gonna make TRT
Illegal if she's elected, you know, they are he hasn't he probably hasn't thought of that
Is TRT illegal if she's elected? You know they are.
He probably hasn't thought of that.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's a lot that could go bad in the next four years for all of us.
But Hiller claims to be apolitical, like he's not political at all.
He doesn't want to lose.
Andrew Hiller?
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
It could be that simple. Andrew Hiller? Yeah. Oh, okay.
It could be that simple. Hey, my other question for you is, do you have an intern or someone that works for you that could do a little bit of bitch work?
That's something you don't want to do bookkeeping wise?
Yeah, everyone besides me. Okay, so I think you could start a you you kind of want to get a little more presence on Twitter or
Instagram you could start an account
With just
documenting all these celebrities who are saying they're gonna move if Trump wins
And this will only work if Trump wins and then we could and we could kind of keep track of who leaves and who doesn't
I would follow that account on all
Social platforms, I think it'd be a blast. No one's you know, no one's gonna leave. You know, no one's gonna leave
Well, then that should brought to light. Yeah, no, no one's no one's gonna leave like where the fuck are you gonna go?
all the other countries are I
Mean did you see what just happened in Australia? They're not letting
Candice Owens come there
That is wild yeah, that is crazy wild yeah members member
Cara Webb or Saunders kind of pushed back a little bit when she had to go back from the games cuz she got kovat in
2021 and she had to be go to one of those facilities that wasn't a hotel, but it wasn't a jail.
It was like a holding cell.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I think it was a hotel. I think it was a hotel. No, it wasn't. Okay.
I think it was a hotel, but I think it was like fenced in and shit.
It was because the outside, it may have looked, it may have been a hotel at one point, but
for this time period, it was more of like a concentration camp of
of where you had to go to.
Like, where are the people that were pissed at the time now?
Everyone just kind of rolled over and okay with it.
I'm not well anyway, I'm not okay.
Thanks for having Dale on when he said that RFK could be the head of health and human
services my my little peepee moved a little bit that really jacked me up. I'm not okay. Thanks for having Dale on when he said that RFK could be the head of health and human services
My my little peepee moved a little bit that really jacked me up. Oh, uh, oh, uh, who then who would be the head of it?
Oh our uh, bobby kennedy. Yeah, he said that you know, there's rumbles. He has rumbles
I mean that that's the reason why i'm voting for trump
I'm a big rfk fan and I just love the cabinet he might put together
I can't wait for tuesday. I'm gonna all six hours, Seve. Thanks for all you do
Thanks, dude. I appreciate I think we're gonna start at six and go to midnight
Six your time
Yeah
That's gonna be too late. That's nine my time on the East Coast. You got to start before then
We're gonna know by six our time you want to start like it's three. Okay done three o'clock
Three four o'clock four o'clock. No, no, let's do three.
Fuck it.
Hey, listen.
Okay.
Listen, you're, you're officially now an intern.
You're, you're the first intern of the show.
I'm going to the home upcoming shows.
Uh, oh, we don't even have it scheduled yet.
All right.
My name is Bo by the way.
Okay.
Bo.
Thank you.
Oh, the intern.
Oh, the intern.
All right.
Thank you.
Hey, you're vital to the existence of the show. Thank you. Oh, the intern. Yeah the intern. Oh the intern. All right. Thank you. Hey, I'm by by the vital to the existence of the show
Thank you
Okay, okay. Thank you. Bye for now
God I love oh, I give a fuck what you guys say. Oh
You guys like them too
Six to midnight. Oh, baby, daddy. You were not allowed to watch that show, Patty
Midnight, oh baby, fatty you were not allowed to watch that show patty
Listen the reason why I'm not replying to your guys's DMS anymore some fucking stuck in the DMS with fucking Pat
In Pat fucking 69 to each other for fucking five hours yesterday
Text message from a friend Dale is legitimately the best guest always love his shows. I
Know isn't it weird and Rambler doesn't like him or Rambler 2 or whatever the fuck that guy was. How could you?
Hey
If for some reason you don't like Dale as a guest you shouldn't say anything because it says more about you than it does about um uh
it says more about you than okay fine you're invited oh yeah pat you do need to come on dude that'll be so awesome i just oh man i don't know how i'm gonna get you a link i can't give you my
phone number he's the only person i've ever said that about. Seve, did you delete all your DMs with Pat
like last time? Yeah, yeah, that's what I did. Always. Dale's a great guest. I love him. Yeah,
he's great, right Pat? That'll break the golden rule, letting guest someone from the chat on the show.
What were we talking about?
I got to pee and I got to do some other stuff.
I don't think I should get off the show though.
I think I need to decompress a little bit with you guys.
I got so wound up from that show.
Like in a good way.
Oh shit.
Oh shit.
What is this?
What is this nonsense conspiratorial?
What is this?
What is this? What is this?
Holy shit. Alright.
We'll be back to
engage with the
rumors. By the way,
I just, uh, Susan made a folder for me.
Susan made a folder for me
with all the videos,
contest videos,
and he sent it to me in some sort of
drive.
Oh, is it downloading?
And I'm trying to download all the fucking
affiliate videos so then I can start uploading them I don't know how g-drive
works how the fuck can someone show me how this works before I take a piss show
you guys control what I just click the folder right affiliate video content
folder and then I hit download oh Oh it did it download already.
Where do I go then I go to my downloads.
Oh shit there it is.
559 megabytes.
Double click it.
Where is this folder?
Where did it go?
Where's the folder?
Oh it's in the oh okay shit.
And now drag it I want to put it in a safe place.
I'll just drag it to my desktop.
Wow. Nathan Bruce Siont, what's this?
To be able to come here and prioritize yourselves.
Wow, some of these people shot some beautiful shit.
Hold on, let me see if I can upload this, just this one right now and play it for you
guys.
This one I just downloaded.
I'm getting excited about the video contest.
Oh,.mov, I can't.
Oh, I'm gonna have to...
Holy shit, Suzy, you know what I'm gonna have to do?
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I want to talk to you about Patrick Rios. Patrick Rios has uploaded a video a couple weeks ago on JRHowell.
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He went there and he made this video.
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I want to talk a little bit just love on Rios a little bit.
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It's really fucking cool and then we'll come back and we'll talk about this Tim Waltz accused of past affair
But the what does CCP stand for Chinese Communist Party Chinese Communist Party is that what CC stands for
anyway, I'll be back in just a minute.
To be able to come here and prioritize yourselves, you're doing it for them. So then they have
a mom that can run and jump and play and do whatever they want to do.
Before I got here, I was chasing Jack around
on his dirt bike.
So for me to be able to be like,
yeah, I can go do that, that's why I do this now.
Before I was pregnant, it was probably
the best shape I was in, but I knew from watching
all their moms in our community go through it like, oh, like,
you can still do this during pregnancy and being able to be like fit throughout pregnancy and
you're not disabled when you're pregnant, you're just growing another human. So I think it helped
a lot. It helped with motivation, being able to come in here every day and work out with people
and going through my first pregnancy, like like I had no idea what to expect.
So to have a community of other moms
kind of talking through that,
Tanya's helped coach a lot of other pregnant people.
And then coming back from pregnancy,
the community was even more impactful.
It's hard, it's an uphill climb every single day,
coming back, I'm going through it right now,
just started working out again.
And again, it's that like, you lean on the community a lot.
Holding it. Tubering business is holding it down. Holding it down. Not yet, buddy. Thank you.
it down. Not yet buddy. Thank you. Hey. Hi babe. Hey if I send um uh could you send Avi in here to get me my coffee cup and give me and I get a refill?
I can do it. Okay how are we on time? Or do you want Avi?
No it doesn't matter how it doesn't matter. How am I on time?
No, it doesn't matter. How am I on time?
Good. We don't have anything until noon. They have a private tennis.
Okay. And the boys wanted to play tennis with me today up in Scott's Valley,
but I told them I'm already going to have an hour to play tennis with them each at Seascape today, right?
Yeah. And that would be over till.
Because they already have three hours of tennis today, right?
Yeah. They're private and then clinic this evening.
Okay, cool.
I'll just go, okay.
So I'm going to, I'm going to plan on taking them to tennis and play with them.
Oh, for their private evening.
Oh yeah.
In Scotts Valley then.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm going to go with the seascape.
Okay.
Thank you.
Okay.
Love you.
You want a coffee?
Oh yeah, please.
And I, you can either bring me a new cup if it's or grab this cup
Either way, I don't care
Okay. Okay. Bye. Okay. Bye
Seb's one of my buddies berated me for listening to the show and participating
I told him to go fuck himself typical partisan dork. I can tolerate different opinions. I chose you. Well, thank you. That's good
Thank you. Do you I mean you, we're just gonna be sucking each other's own dicks all the
time and each other's. Jesus. I love my mother. I love my mother too. I'm excited. My mom's been
in Armenia for a couple weeks. She's coming back. I was texting with her this morning. I miss her.
this morning. I miss her. Warms my heart. Honestly, Pat, glad you have stuck around since the early days.
All right. I chose you. Sounds so tender and loving. Oh, fair enough. Okay, what is
going on here? So here's the thing with, here's the thing with walls, right? 60 trips to China with boys. Implications
were that he was a pedo, started the gay club at his high school, whatever. There were some
rumors flying around. They ended up being proven false. He got exonerated. I guess it's
a good thing he's not a pedo. And now this is just posted 46 minutes ago from a valutainment Patrick Bette David's
organization.
Minnesota governor and vice presidential candidate Tim Walz was involved in a secret, not even
allegedly but just was involved in a secret romantic relationship with the daughter of
a ranking member of a Chinese Communist Party.
I don't think the word secret needs to be put in there.
Lots of guys fuck. Lots of guys who leave the country fuck. If a guy leaves the country... Let me tell you something else about men. If a guy goes somewhere 60 times,
there's a good chance he's fucking someone. You should just assume that. If you have a
husband or boyfriend who does fishing trips to Thailand twice a year, and he's been doing that for 20 years
He's fucking there
It just in this is gonna be even more crass I apologize, but especially if it's an Asian country
What if he goes 69 times yeah Yeah, same thing. If your husband goes somewhere to any Asian country repeatedly, there's a very good chance he's fucking.
I'm just, I'm just, I'm just...
Anyone who says fishing trip to Thailand even once is picking up ladyboys.
Yeah, that's true. Matt Burns not necessarily fucking, but some form of Anyone who says fishing trip to Thailand even once is picking up ladyboys
Yeah, that's true Matt burns not necessarily fucking but it's somehow some form of
Happy ending how how the fuck how the fuck is fucking age? How the fuck is fucking Asian? I'm just what do you mean?
I'm just saying that those are those are a lot of Asian countries or sex tourist destinations
Sex tourist destination sex Sex destinations for tourists.
Just like if your husband's going to Europe twice a year for a vacation by himself without
family, he's probably having gay sex.
Just the way it is.
Who is fucking Asians?
Dude, Jesus.
Sex and Asians.
Thank you, Heidi.
That probably is a word.
Hey, David, not everyone's into fucking chicks who wear burkas like yourself.
Burk-barg-ar-dur-gur-dur-gur.
My favorite Asian massage place always fondles me, but that's why I keep going back. Those ladies are hilarious with me. Yeah. My wife went to a, I don't know if I should
tell that story. I probably have told that story before. I'll save it. Thank you, sir. Nice Trump app.
Okay.
Minnesota governor and vice presidential candidate Tim Walz was involved in a secret romantic
relationship with the daughter of a ranking member of the Chinese Communist Party while
teaching in China in the 1980s.
A new report alleges, there we go, Jenna Wang, the daughter of a CCP Chinese Communist Party labor union chairman named Bin Hu, claims that Wall showered her with gifts and seduced her behind
her father's back, but after the relationship soured, she was left feeling like a prostitute.
Wow. Let's go to the comments. Are you sure it wasn't the ccp son?
Uh fair enough. He's also being accused of molesting a minor when he was a teacher
Uh, I think that got disproven just imagine if this was jd vance. I'm sure this will be all over cnn. That's actually kind of gangster
He fucked the ops daughter. Yeah, I see that
Uh, who cares vote blue?
How I thought he was, uh busy at the tiananmen square, uh protest no surprise there media will bury the story on tampon tim
I don't think you can bury it once it gets to value tainment
He dare ever open his mouth about trump's reputation again. You can see his deceptive soul, uh through his eyes
Okay, he tried kissing me at the white house. Okay
Um tampon timmy at it again. Kind of makes sense.
He would have a relationship with the communist. Oh, come on, y'all never gotten a massage before.
Another child mistreated by walls. Yeah, that is the question. How old was she?
Let's see if let's see if we can um, do a little search on uh, Jenna Wang
and see what what pops up. Uh
Oh shit, oh shit. Wow. All right
To the liberal rag newsweek Chinese official daughter speaks out over Tim waltz was romance
Jenna Wang the daughter see so here's the thing. This is why this is so important
Not because he's a scumbag and he fucks that's all men
That's all men, okay, so he's a man, okay, that's nice to know at least he's a man
Yeah, it's Pat Lang. He was banging a Chinese chick. I kind of like him more. Yeah, exactly
He's a man. He fucks the problem is is that when you have this stuff on people and you can use it to
manipulate them, so here's the guy who might be president of the United States one day and
We don't want anyone leveraging these relationships or his past against him in order to
Effects the entire fucking United's compromises security of the entire United States of America
Jenna Wang the daughter of a Chinese Communist Party CCP official has said she has it she had a hidden romance with vice
presidential candidate Tim Walls during his time teaching in China
China does not want Trump as president I don't think either an exclusive interview with the Daily Mail released on Monday, Wang said Xi and Walls,
Minnesota's current governor and the running mate of Vice President Kamala Harris, had
a passionate affair.
What's that mean, passionate?
They included promises of a future that ultimately went unfulfilled.
What's passionate?
I mean, passionate affair.
That means like where you lay around in bed naked for like 48 hours eating cheese and
crackers and just sucking and fucking.
Newsweek has contacted the Harris Walls campaign via email for comment the campaign did not
respond to the Daily Mail's request.
Wang now 59 said she met Walls in 1989 when he taught English at number one high school
in Foshan, Gongdong province through the nonprofit World Teach.
At the time Wang was a 24 year old English teacher, not a minor, at number eight school.
Okay. So I'm not sure what the big deal is if he wasn't married.
At the time, Wang was a 24-year-old teacher at number eight middle school, and despite the risks posed by her father's high rank with communist party the couple began a discreet relationship. Tim was very passionate, very romantic. I can
still remember dancing with him to our favorite song, Careless Whisper, Wang told the mail.
Because public displays of affection could jeopardize her family's reputation,
Wang said she and Walls maintained their connection behind closed doors. She recounted intimate
moments in Walls' accommodations where they would listen to music, talk for hours, and share their
dreams for the future. In fact, he couldn't touch or kiss in public
just made it all the more exciting and intense when we were finally alone. She added, we
were deeply in love and I want we were deeply in love and I wanted to marry him and start
a family when it happened. I felt very unhappy and sad Tim's behavior was behavior was very
selfish. When what happened? When Oh, when it didn't happen. In 1992 the future vice president in 1992 the future vice presidential candidate
he's not a future vice presidential candidate he is the current vice
presidential candidate a return to China where tensions escalated over Wang's
desire to for marriage and a life in the United States. Walt however, however, allegedly questioned her intentions, wondering if she was interested in him or
simply a pathway to a U.S. visa.
This was very offensive.
Wang told the Mail, I said to him, that is both or nothing.
I said to him, it's either both or nothing.
Republican Senator Mark Rubio, vice chair of the Senate select committee on intelligence,
called for an investigation following the revelations citing possible implications for
national security.
In a post on X, Rubio said, if you aspire to be vice president of the United States,
voters deserve to know everything about and any and every link you have to the Chinese
Communist Party.
Rubio has not yet to confirm whether he will pursue an official inquiry into Wallace's
past relationships with Wang or any broader connection.
Here's the thing too. The Chinese are so fucking sophisticated in that shit, for all he knows, she was a fucking spy the entire time.
Walls' China stint has stirred controversy before notably
due to him taking a misleading statement about being in China during the Tiananmen Square protest of 1989.
While Walls previously claimed to have been in Hong Kong during the uprising, later reports found
that he did not arrive in China until months after the protests had ended. Walls, who addressed the
issue during the vice presidential debate earlier this month, described his earlier comments as
knuckle-headed. Wang, now a teacher and translator in Europe, said she felt compelled to speak out
due to what she described as Walls' selfish behavior and lack of transparency. Tim lied about Tiananmen Square and he's lied about
other things she told the Mail. This is a very crucial moment in history and a man like this
does not appear to have the character integrity to do one of the most important jobs in the world.
Wow. Tim Wall is accused of leaving communist leaders daughter. So she's gonna be making the podcast circuit soon
Wow
She is going to be
Wait, yeah, I wonder what year he got married
I wonder what year he got married.
Mrs. Wang said her father, Bin Hu, would have been very upset with her if he found out she had an affair with a Westerner, so the two kept the relationship a secret.
Mrs. Wang taught at a nearby school to where he taught with the World Teach Association in the 80s. The downfall of the relationship was an argument over whether she really loved Mr. Walls or
only wanted a visa to the United States.
I was giving it up to be with Tim to get married and start a family, Mrs. Wang said.
Knowing now that he wasn't going to marry me made me feel cheap and common as if I were
being treated like a prostitute, a whore.
The two never saw each other again, but Mr. Walls continued to spend time in China by
organizing trips for students from Nebraska and Minnesota.
Mrs. Wang wound up immigrating to Italy a few years after they stopped talking.
Wow.
Good shit. Let's see, let's see how or when or let's say Tim Walls his wife, Tim Walls wife.
Let's Google that.
Gwen Walls married in 1994. So it sounds like it sounds like they weren't like he was done fucking the Chinese lady.
So all we've all we found out is that he was banging some chicken China.
Well, I mean, at least that means he's probably I mean do pedos bang chicks to Tim Walz his wife
Do guy do men who I guess men do everything Tim Walz his wife argues putting tampons in all school bathrooms is part of helping
Kids to learn to read if you're talking about learning to read and closing gaps
Then you better take away the barriers for that if that's tampons, then that's tampons one wall said holy shit
Holy shit
Holy shit, I'd love to hear this logic. Well, she looks crazy. What's that? Look at that
Wow, this is gonna be good What Kamala Harris told us we had to do was we had to turn the page, right?
Yeah, because we have something really exciting, exciting headed in our direction.
But I kind of liked it when she did this.
Turn the page.
Look at these people in the... oh shit.
I hope I didn't fuck that up.
You didn't fuck that up I'm gonna be watching you because when I see Wisconsin and I'm going to watch National Land TV
because this is a pretty important place
and Minnesota helped me craft this.
He's nervous, he's nervous.
You just show me this, turn the page, right?
Turn the page.
And you know what else that looks like?
Bye bye.
Bye bye Donald Trump.
We are turning the page. Give me some days if we are turning the page.
Gwen Walls, wife of Minnesota governor and Democratic Vice Presidential hopeful Tim Walls,
indicated offering tampons in school bathrooms would help students learn to read during an
appearance on the Katie Couric podcast. Couric asked Walls about walls about her husband being called tampon tim a nickname coined by the conservatives after he signed a bill in the state
They would put free
menstrual products in all school restrooms including boys rooms
If kids are hungry in school what what that does to the brain and learning you're not going to learn to read wall said
So if you're talking about learning to read and closing gaps, then you better take away
the barriers for that.
If that's tampons, then that's tampons, right?
Take away the barriers and let's get to the real work of this, not get lost in what are
the components.
And as some people would say, you know, equaling the playing field or whatever it might be,
she said.
Holy shit.
The legislation says menstrual products must be available to all menstruating students
in restrooms regularly used by students in grades 4 to 12 according to a plan developed
by the school district.
Since then, the moniker tampon, Tim, has been used to highlight this socially progressive
view.
Tim and I have always... why would you put tampons in a boy's restroom? I don't get it.
Can you imagine what you would do if you were in fucking elementary school?
What me and my friends would have done if we found tampons in the bathroom
We would have taken them all out got them wet and thrown them and stuck them to the ceiling
We would have had a fucking field day with that
Tim and I have always thought about removing barriers to learning and success and whatever that barrier is whether it be free lunch or
menstruation products or knowing who you are
Everyone means everyone and some things look different for some people
People have different needs and they have different resources, but everyone means everyone and some things look different for some people. People have different needs and they have different resources, but everyone
means everyone and all of us.
So that it's not an un-messy journey, but we have looked at it like, what do you
need to do to move forward?
What do you need to be happy and healthy and have success?
And how might we most effectively and best help with that and then mind
our own damn business, right?
Then get out of the way because, and I think that those two pieces probably describe him.
Tim, he's compassionate.
He's empathetic.
He removes barriers.
He does a great job of that, but I think, you know, then he's like,
whose business is that?
Like mind it yourself.
Now I have to put a quarter in the swear jar, but mind it yourself. Now I have to put a quarter in the swear jar,
but mind it yourself.
Like, let's just get about real important issues
that we have to solve,
not get caught up in people's own personal business.
Imagine using that as an excuse
to just let kids do whatever they want.
Hey, just mind your own business.
We see equity as people that they need to get a specific place where we can have the conversation. Waltz also discussed second gentleman Doug Emhoff's advice and the support he has given her.
He's such an amazing person and how he models support for his wife and empowers women
and empowers me is really miraculous she said. So he has you know had a good sense
of humor about things.
Notably Emhoff faces allegations that he once slapped an ex-girlfriend so hard
she spun around after and then he engaged in inappropriate misogynist office behavior
as Los Angeles law firm.
Emhoff's first marriage ended following his affair with the children's nanny, whom he got pregnant according to the Daily Mail.
The nanny's close friend told the outlet that she did not keep the baby, but did not elaborate further.
No, they're just normal people.
He empowers women by letting them play in women's sports.
Are you guys, do you guys hear any crackling?
I really need to know if it's my mic or my headset.
I don't care if it's my headset.
I really don't want it to be on my mic.
Testing testing.
Hmm. Testing testing. I don't hear it.
Weird.
It comes and goes. Sounds fine.
All right. No crackling.
I need this. Um
I need the beginning of that song just so I can play it in the background. I love that
Whatever that electronic shit is
I um I am I'm trying to get for rogue by the way I'm I'm trying to get a
Katie Katie Henninger to come on the shows during rogue after every night I think I'm
close to that that'll be great I think we'm close to that. That'll be great.
I think we got Taylor Williamson coming on.
I need to reach out to Ricky Gerard.
I'll try to get him on next week.
New show coming up on the Sevant Podcast.
Make sure you watch the piece Patrick Meos,
Patrick Meos, Rios, made on
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Lie to your husband.
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Just lie. to your husband just lie just lie just lie to your husband it's okay just lie whatever
just lie to him fuck it suck his dick and lie toum boat walls
Man these things are just fucking pouring in right now
You guys are giving me so much fucking content in real time. I haven't seen any of these
These are just pouring into my um
text messages
Uh from riley g's check this one out. Now I want each of you to tell your own name. Do that. Because it's about all of
us. It's about all of us. And listen. I have fought my whole career to put the people first
The fuck is going on Kamala, oh it's Kamala Kamala Kamala I
Don't get what we're looking at here it says a
Genuine Michael Scott moment caught on camera. What is it?
What am I missing someone help a brother out?
What am I missing
A genuine Michael Scott moment who's's Michael Scott? Is that a film director?
What am I missing? She told them to chant their own names. Yeah, but what's wrong with that? I don't get it.
Oh, oh, it's from the office.
Well, I don't get it. Oh, and they didn't. Oh, right.
I don't know. I could cut her some slack on that.
All right.
Oh, I just got tired. November 8th, I think Bear Hamlin's coming on the show. CEO and founder of Born Primitive. He's got a big
announcement, something he wants to share.
On the 12th of November, we'll be announcing the winners with Chris Cooper
and Two Brain Business and of the affiliate video contest.
And also he will have the new state of the industry report.
You guys remember that from last year?
I'm pretty excited about that.
I hope I get one soon.
I can't wait to dig through it.
It's basically a survey of 15,000 gyms around the world. Talks about how they're doing. It's
the most comprehensive report in the space. Let me see if there's anything else I have for you.
Oh, I guess I could save this for tomorrow or the next day. Candice Owens is not being
allowed to go to Australia.
How crazy is that? If you're Australian, you should be tripping.
You should be tripping. Candace Owens denied visa to Australia over comments about Jews and Muslims.
Australia rejects application by right-wing U.S. pundit Candace Owens. Candace Owens blocked from
coming to Australia. Right wing extremist Candace Owens is blocked from entering Australia.
Let's read the Newsweek article one. We'll do it today. Fuck it. Let's do it. Commentator Candice Owens has been blocked from entering Australia ahead of a plan speaking to her.
Australia's Minister of Home Affairs Tony Burke rejected Owens' visa application, his office confirmed to Newsweek.
From downplaying the impact of the Holocaust with comments about Nazi doctor Josef Mengele through to claims that Muslims started slavery.
Candice Owens has the capacity to incite discord in almost every direction, Burke said.
Australia's national interest is best served when Candice Owens is somewhere else.
Owens has long stoked controversy with inflammatory claims about Jewish, Muslim, and transgender people.
In July, she sparked a backlash after saying that the accounts of Nazi medical experiments
conducted on twins by Mengele's concentration camp sounded completely absurd and like bizarre
propaganda.
Owens has not publicly commented on twins.
Was she doing that to emphasize how crazy they were?
God, that seems out of context.
Owens has not publicly commented on being barred from Australia.
She has been contacted for comment via an email sent through the website for Blexit, a grassroots conservative movement she co-founded.
The Anti-Defamation Commission and Pro-Jewish group that pushed to bar Owens from Australia welcomed Burke's decision to reject her visa application
Jesus
This is a victory for truth for decency and for millions of jewish souls and millions of others in memory who she shamed
Who she
Who she so shamelessly desecrated the group's chairman davir?
Abra-Movitch, said in a statement provided by Newsweek,
what's crazy is it's that kind of censorship that got the fucking Jews killed.
These fucking morons.
The decision by the government to bar Owen sends a resounding message.
Australia has no place for those who mock the suffering of genocide survivors
and insult the memories of the six million Jews who perished.
This is the line in the sand. Incredible. Fuck Australia. What a disaster of a fucking
country. No government. She has been increasingly critical of Israel writing on X in November
last year that no government anywhere has the right to commit genocide ever. There's
no justification for genocide. I can't believe this even needs to be said or
is even considered the least bit controversial the state Israel has
denied accusations of genocide well of course it's not genocide they were doing
genocide they would have fucking napalm the whole fucking country this is nuts
Wow Australia really is a shithole
Wow
Hmm
She said the surgeries on Jewish people were bizarre propaganda and didn't happen
She hates the Jews
Did you watch Hillers latest video HQ so professional with their video? I did see the video he did on Dom fall of man
That was a fucking world-class
Fucking obliteration and takedown
Who cares if she's a Holocaust in our letter be a retard yeah, let her be a retard
The um, ah CEO Rambler who is Rambler to you should you should
Man what a mess
should man what a mess
Dixon Cinderbox Dixon Cinderbox Dixon cider box sorry Dixon cider box but the women are nice nice all right love you guys talk to you soon what is today
Tuesday I bet you there's another show on today I think um Suza has his show on today no no for sure let me look 11 a.m.
can the cross the game survive the Matt Suza show
Friday we're gonna have a crazy show.
You guys want to I should show you this guy's Instagram account.
Let me find it.
You guys can follow him.
He had 100,000 carry the fire.
Is that his Instagram?
He had 100,000 Instagram followers.
And then he lost his account. Instagram took it down. Instagram followers and then
He lost his account. They Instagram took it down. This is a fucking wild Instagram account
This thing is wild
This is a wild wild account. Anyway the guy who controls this account will be on the show. The horrific realities of war.
Me and the boys fighting for our life in Taiwan so Nancy Pelosi can afford bigger tits.
God bless Nancy's sweater hams.
I mean, I don't know what you want me to tell you.
It wasn't just Kabul that was a fucking disaster.
It was the whole thing, not even just Afghanistan, Iraq too, the whole GWAT.
People will sit there and tell you that it was the Biden administration that Kamala is
to blame, sure, maybe for the withdrawal.
But they've forgotten that we'd been there for 20 years, four presidents, two from each
party, dozens of generals and politicians and committees and smoke and mirrors.
It was designed to fail.
It was meant to be a long, unwinnable war.
It was meant for the military industrial complex and politicians to privatize massive profits
while socializing the financial cost to the taxpayer.
This is going to be a wild, wild, uh, a wild story.
Nothing made it clear.
Then when the platoon sergeant called a meeting early one morning, one of the hangars where the company had set up a makeshift TOC.
He told us the NCOs that reporters had launched overnight and that we had to conduct a perimeter
sweep for the entire airport.
Initially, we thought it was to check for potential infiltration spots given the intel
about an imminent attack.
But by the end of the brief, we were clear about the intent.
We must collect dozens of infants that had been thrown over the walls by desperate parents. Their small bodies killed by the heat or the fall. We couldn't
allow any reporters to take photographs lest the world witness our failure. We found heavy duty
trash bags and borrowed some gators and flatbeds from another platoon. We did it every morning
until Abbey Gate. Sometimes the babies had been tangled in the barbed wire, sometimes we found them still alive in the wall, still alive, and we'll call the
DOC. I'll never be able to forget or forgive we carried bags of dead babies
back to the designated building where a small group of NGO workers said they
were identifying them for notification of NOK. We exchanged no words, I think
both of groups knew it was all BS. the blasted Abby after the blasted Abby gate
I felt somewhat relieved the security degraded and the reporters became scarcer
We could stop pretending things were under control or that they ever were
Fucking nuts right my legs started shaking a little bit reading that
Yeah, her tits are huge. Pelosi's tits.
They're massive.
Matt, she got massive hammers.
Nancy Pelosi breasts.
Those things are just fucking crazy. Let me see if I can find a...
picture of those things.
Oh yeah, here we go.
Oh, here we go.
What year is this?
She's 82.
How old is she?
I see some giant 82 year old hammers.
Heads in the San Nancy 82 and Paul Pelosi head an Italian beach resort owned by opera
star Andre Baccelli after she met the pope despite supporting abortion and as he prepares
for his dui trial
oh oh this must be old anyway look at those things just gargantuan hammers
Big old juggernaut. Those women look hot.
Yep.
OK, bye.