The Sevan Podcast - Doug Brock | USAF Special Warfare Heart Failure Survivor

Episode Date: October 23, 2024

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Yeah, I learned that last night through an associate of mine. So, did you go by Doug Douglas or do people call you Brock? All of the above, but Brock is fine. Okay. And that's your last name. It is. Yeah. Because in my head, I kept calling you Brock. So that works out good. Yeah. It's, uh, it's easier. Yeah. It was, did that come just early in life? Like by the time you're in second grade, everyone called you by your last name. Not quite.

Actually, it was when I joined the service, you know, cause everything is last name based and then it just kind of stuck. Really? Your buddies in high school didn't do that. No, everything was Doug or Dougie fresh. Oh yeah. Dougie fresh. That's good. Yeah, yeah. I don't even remember how you popped on my radar, but the myocarditis and pericarditis and all the heart stuff obviously has been a huge interest to me for, you know, ever since I got into CrossFit, but definitely in the last four years.

And then yesterday I was scrolling through your Instagram and I'm like, oh, well, of course, he goes to CrossFit gym. And it's a gym. I think it's a gym where maybe I took my second level one. Is that Freddie Camacho's gym? That one world gym? Yeah. Yeah. With Bradley. Madero's. He owns it now? I believe so. I haven't been there in a number of years, but yeah, I frequented that facility on and off for a couple of years. And is this trying to show in this picture?

Yeah. That's one of the gals that worked at the uh at the uh the gym there and uh yeah we became good friends while i was going there is that is that is that freddy's is that i can't even i can't tell is that friday i was looking for because she used to have a lip ring or a nose ring or something is that is that freddy's wife i i don't know. I don't know. Oh, okay. All right, all right, all right. What a small world. Where were you born?

Yeah, so it's funny, when we started doing all this coordination and I found your 805 area code and then the 925 popped up and I was like, no kidding. So I'm from Fremont originally and grew up between Fremont and Hayward like no kidding. So I'm from East Bay, so I I worked at a Bronco Billy's Pizza Palace Yeah, oh yeah, well, I mean I was intimately familiar with the one in Fremont because it was right across the street from my high school But but yeah, that's funny small world. Yeah, what a crazy small world in in Brock you've done 20 years in the Air Force

22 years this December will be officially my mark, yeah. That's awesome. Congratulations and thank you. No, thank you. I appreciate it. Why did you join the Air Force? Why did you join the military? Well, initially, you know, I don't know, I kind of went back and forth

when I first joined or when I expressed interest in joining because I grew up playing You know pretty high-end soccer my whole my whole youth and Childhood and I always had this idea that I was gonna continue my soccer career into my adult life And but I also had this This passion for I don't know Running around and camouflage as a kid played in hindgost seek, you know doing the whole GI Joe thing as a young man and So it's kind of like I've always had this weird. I don't know hidden passion to go be in the service in some capacity

And when I was in high school, we had to do a senior class project and I decided to do my class project or my my senior project on being a police officer of all things and when I had my advocate, I asked him a pretty pointed question about what would best prepare me to become a police officer. Is that to go to school and get a college degree or is that to join the military and go that route? And he gave me a pretty good honest answer and his answer was, well, if you go to college, you're going to get a degree, you're going

to get education, it's going to be great. He goes, but if you are the military, you're going to get a discipline and life lessons that you probably wouldn't otherwise get going to college. And being the 17 year old that I was, I still wasn't really sold on going to the military. So I wanted to give college a chance. And I went to a community college down in San Diego, right out of high school. And I started playing soccer there.

And then that's when 9-11 happened. I was a freshman in college, 17 years old. And I'll never forget the tipping point for me that really drove home wanting to join the service was not only having gone through this historical traumatic event, but we had a game, a soccer game on Marine Corps Recruiting Depot on MCRD right after 9-11 and when we were driving through the gate and I just saw the security presence, you know, the Marines, they were squared away. I've never felt so secure and safe in my life. It was pretty funny. 17 years old, just kind of

blown away with the response from uh from the attacks on 9 11. and then when we got on the base and we're starting to warm up for the game, uh we're right in the thick of like Marine Corps boot camp. So, I'm watching drill sergeants just

getting after all the boots and just yelling at them in their information. They're running around doing pull-ups and push-ups and sit-ups and instantly I was like drawn towards it. Not necessarily the Marine lifestyle at the time, that was a little intimidating for me at 17, but I knew that I needed to go serve in some capacity and ended up showing up at a recruiting office a couple weeks later and that started my military career path. So I joined on December 2002. What high school did you go to in the Bay Area? I went to Irvington High School, home of the Vikings. Oh I went to College Park, we were home of the Vikings too, isn't that in Pleasant Hill. Yeah nice.

Hey, uh, I always trip my upbringing in the Bay Area was military bad police bad American flag bad I had this it was very subtle, but it was constant I didn't I didn't actually realize it until I got older You didn't have any of that growing up in the Bay Area kind of put into you? No, not at all. I was so far removed from kind of what was going on around me. Like I was, I'm not gonna lie, I was a pretty like, I don't want to say ignorant, but I was just oblivious to a lot of things. I was so involved and saturated in sports growing up. If I wasn't going to a game,

I was coming from a game. If I wasn't going to a practice, I was coming from a practice. And that's what my life was. My parents did a pretty phenomenal job just keeping me active and keeping me busy with with athletics that I was not. I don't know. I just wasn't like brought into a lot of that stuff. So it was oblivious to me. Like I could care less at the time. Gotcha. So you didn't have you didn't have that like slow drip indoctrination into you? No. No. Not really. Did you have siblings?

I got an older brother. He's five or six years older than I am. He's he lived down in SoCal now with his family. Did he play sports too, Brock? Yeah, he was my inspiration to a lot of things and he still is to this day. But you know, he was a soccer player as well. And of course, as the younger brother, I wanted to follow his footsteps. And so I kind of emulated him as much as I could. And so yeah, I followed him.

I wish I'd followed him a little bit more, you know, in the academics of life. But that's all right. He definitely got the brains. I got the good looks. Ha ha ha ha ha. And when you join, when you join, you join the Marine Corps or you, and then you go to Air Force or no,

you go straight to the Air Force. No, I've been in the Air Force since day one, 22 years. And when you signed up, did you check in with your parents first? I don't really remember having a conversation about joining the service with them. I, uh, you know, I was living in San Diego with my brother when I made the decision to join the service. Um, I think, you know, my, my, my dad, loving to death, he's, he's been, uh,

he's been a phenomenal, you know, hero in my own way but I think he was really reluctant and kinda you know, against the idea of me joining the Air Force or the military in any capacity. He had his his opinions about people who join the service. So and and I just kinda just brush it off the shoulder and I was like, this is what I'm doing and I was dead set on it. I was going to follow through with it.

So it wasn't a terrible pushback, but I knew that there was a little bit of resistance and some, you know, maybe I upset my parents when I decided to join the service. I don't know, but it was something I was going to do and I did it. It's pretty amazing for how young you are And now you've lived I'm guessing in hindsight. You're really happy you did it because you lived the whole life and yet You're still so young now Yeah I don't know. I mean, I'm definitely feeling it every morning. I get out of bed. That's for sure but

But yeah, you know for sure. But, but yeah, you know, joining it, I ended up joining at 19. And I have lived quite a bit in these 22 years doing all this. But I wouldn't change it for the world, man, it saved my life joining the service given me the discipline and the structure that I definitely was lacking as a as a young man, and changed me into who I am today for sure. And when you say it saved your life, you think you would have just gotten into some squirrely stuff?

Oh yeah, being 17, 18 years old, living in San Diego and playing college soccer was, that was a recipe for disaster, man. So, I mean, I had fun, don't get me wrong. Like I enjoyed my time living on the coast and going to the beach, but that was not sustainable by any means, you I would have I would probably ended up in jail or who knows where so having joined the service was definitely a blessing in

disguise. When you join the Air Force do you try to get on the I'm guessing they have a soccer team? They did and that was the selling pitch for me when when I was talking to the recruiter it was like hey man can I play soccer for the Air Force and of course his answer was yes? You know and so just kind of hook line and sinker and And so that was that was definitely a selling point for me You know when I got to when I got through basic training and I and I got through my first My first tech school, which was down

in Fort Huachuca, Arizona, and then I PCS'd over to Florida is when I started realizing, okay, there is a way to play. I just got to figure this out. So yeah, I ended up having two knee surgeries and that pretty much ended my soccer career. So, and then I just continued focusing on my military career from there. So, Hey, how do you fracture your patella in a soccer game? That's the knee cap, right?

It is. So, I was playing with that team. I was playing with that team. I was playing with that team. I was playing with that team. I was playing with that team. I was playing with that team. I was playing with that team. So, and then I just continued focusing on my military career from there. So, Hey, how do you fracture your patella in a soccer game? That's the knee cap, right? It is.

It's the knee cap there. Yeah. And I went into a really aggressive tackle and it's, I would have to, I'd have to try and simulate it for you and what I did, but it was just a, the meeting of forces and everything coming together at once. But it was just the meeting of forces and everything coming together at once. And my knee just took the brunt of all the force and it just fractured my patella right now. Did it hit something on the other player?

Your kneecap? No, my knee didn't come in contact with anybody. I just went into a tackle with my right foot through the ball into the player. And it was a very violent tackle. I hit, you know, I struck the dude pretty hard. And I think just the force, the impact from the tackle just fractured my kneecap. I don't know. I honestly don't know how it happened. That's what I'm speculating. Did it actually snap in half?

Yeah, it cracked right through the center horizontally. Wow. Yeah. And I didn't even know it was broken. I mean, the adrenaline going through my body at the time. And I ended up finishing the half on a fractured kneecap not realizing it. And then it was when halftime hit when all of the like the adrenaline started to wear off. And I was like, well, there's a lot of pain in my right knee. What is going on? And then the start of the second half, the ball got played back to me. I trapped it, planted with my right foot and turned pass and I just buckled and I was like, oh, that's not good. Something's wrong. And, uh, and then, you know, an hour later in the x-rays and they're like, yeah, you have a fractured patella. So did they do anything or do you just have to wait for that to heal?

patella. So did they do anything or do you just have to wait for that to heal? So I mean it's a bone. My immediate thought process was okay I'll be in a cast for six weeks and this will be great and this will be fine and I'll heal and recover and be back to playing in no time. Well in the infinite wisdom of military doctors and medical practice they decided that you know what I have never put a screw in a wire in somebody's kneecap and I want I was like, what? Like, it's a broken patella. Like, just cast me up and send me on my way. Nope. We're going to screw it back together and put a wire in your knee. And uh, in the middle of the night, I was like,

what? I'm going to go get a knife and I'm going to go get a knife and I'm going to go get a knife and I'm going to go get a knife and I'm going to go get a knife and I'm going to go get a knife and I'm going to go get a knife and I'm going to go get a

knife and I'm going to go get a knife and I'm going to go get a knife and I'm going to go get a knife and I'm going to go get a knife and I'm going to go get a knife and I'm going to go get a like, what? Like, it's a broken patella. Like, just cast me up and send me on my way. Nope. We're going to screw it back together and put a wire in your knee. And, you know, of course, you know, I didn't really have a

lot of say in that, in that matter, in that situation. So, I just, I had to go through with it. Again, being a little ignorant at the time and truly understanding, you know, what I could and couldn't do. And I was in a leg brace for six months after that. And I was on heavy pain meds for a long time. The pain was excruciating because

I could feel every piece of hardware in my knee. It was right underneath the patellar tendon. So every time I bent my knee or every time I moved my leg, I could feel it under the patellar I was going to physical therapy and seeing all these doctors and like oh just trust the process and and I kept screaming at these folks like no there's something something wrong with this this procedure that you all did something something's not right like I demand to have

this stuff taken out of my knees and I'm like I'm not going to do this anymore. I'm not going to do this anymore. I'm not going to do this anymore. I'm not going to do this anymore. I'm not going to do this anymore. I'm not going to do this anymore. there's something something wrong with this this procedure that y'all did something something's not right Like I demand to have this stuff taken out of my knees

so I had the second surgery six months later to remove all the heart to remove all the uh, the hardware and I can't make this up the very next day running pain-free Hey, um, did the same surgeon take it out that put it in? Oh I don't I don't remember. I have no idea. I can't remember. You know, I was riding a bike once and I was clipped in and I came to a stop and I didn't unclip and I fell off to the side. I landed on my knee and a little tiny pebble, you know, tiny pebble punctured a hole straight into my kneecap. Oh Gosh, and I pulled the rock out and the skin just fell into the hole And the trip is it didn't hurt or anything at all. I went to a doctor. He's like you're lucky

you know, it didn't whatever's underneath your patella, I guess it's your patella tendon didn't get touched and Over the years that hole just kind of filled in and the skin came back up. But for years, I just had a hole in my kneecap and the skin just kind of would fall in there. It was a trip. That's awful. Yeah, but I mean, it did, no pain, no injury,

no, you know what I mean? No, it was weird. Now that I'm trying to tell you it hurts. Yeah, it hurts. Yeah. Bummer. I'm not a huge fan of clip-in pedals for that exact reason. And I know some people swear up and down by wearing clip-ins, but man, I don't know. I've been in so many bike accidents that if I can just ditch the bike

and get off the bike, the better. I rode for years with guys who all did clip ins after that. And I never did clip ins ever again. I threw the shoes away, changed the pedals. Yeah. Like fuck it. And they would make fun of me. I'm like, I don't care.

Yeah. And I guess it also depends what kind of riding you're doing too. And we can probably talk about that for hours, but you know, I, I'm out and bike here in the Boise foothills and I don't see the need for clip ins, but that's just me. So, can you take me through the journey, your journey, um, of all the positions and things you did from going from bootcamp, like, and like you said, that thing PS, cause in 22 years,

I'm guessing you have had a ton of roles. Like quickly, you mentioned you went from San Diego to Florida to Sandy San Antonio like that. I mean it just you had three spots just like that yeah, when my so I went to college in San Diego and then And then when I joined the service, you know, obviously basic training in San Antonio, Texas And then when I graduated San Antonio, so I started off my military career as a what's called the signals intelligence Morse code operator. Okay, there was a Morse code career field

back in the day. And the school for that started off as at your basic Morse Morse code school in Fort Wichita, Arizona. Okay, that was that was a self paced course, but it usually lasted Morse code school in Fort Wachuka, Arizona. Okay. That was a self-paced course, but it usually lasted students about a year, sometimes a little bit shorter depending on how good you were at learning Morse code. And when you say self-paced, Brock, you mean like, they're like, hey, here's the fucking book, learn this shit. And we recommend you do two pages a night for a year.

Yeah. Well, it was all computer lab training because you were literally learning how to copy Morse code. So all the dids and bops of every letter of the alphabet to include all of the Morse code alphabet which is, there's capital letters obviously, but there's also lowercase letters and those all sound differently. There's numbers, you know, that sound differently. So you have to learn this process and some people there's a learning curve. Some people learn it faster than others. It's literally a whole nother language. So intimidating is shit. Yeah, yeah, you know,

I, I didn't know what to make of it. but I, you know, I was indoctrinated pretty early on in my career. And so it was like, this is what I'm doing. I must learn. I must be the best at it. That's my job. That's my purpose. Let's go.

And, and I actually really enjoyed it. I didn't have a problem necessarily. Where it became interesting is when you got went to the to the secondary school, the cryptology school in. Where it became interesting is when you went to the secondary school, the cryptology school. And so I left Fort Wachuka and then went to Corey NAS in Florida, Pensacola, Florida, to go to the center of cryptology. This is where we learned a bunch of the higher end classified stuff of the signal intelligence Morse code operation, if you will.

And, but you started copying code at a faster rate. And it became a competition with you and the other Airmen. How many groups per minute can you copy? And what's your copy rate, your percentage? How good could you do? So it actually turned into a pretty good challenge with the other Airmen and my peers. you know, what could you do? So, it actually turned into a pretty good challenge. You know, with with the other

airmen and my peers. It was a lot of fun and some very nerdy kind of way if you will but I enjoyed it and then so yeah, graduated Corian and then and then went to my first duty assignment which was back to San Antonio. At the time, it

was called Medina Annex which is now Chapman Annex and I was in the United States Senate which was back to San Antonio at the time it was called Medina Annex which is now Chapman Annex and I was stationed there doing my my signals intelligence job. Which was by far probably the coolest experiences of my life not necessarily because of the

the job that I was doing. I mean I was I was in an office building with no windows on a computer for eight to 12 hours a day. It was, that was anticlimactic, but it was definitely the people there that made the impact on my time in San Antonio. Those people that I still talk to this day, 22 years later, 20 years later, I'll never forget them. Some of the greatest people I've ever met. Did you put this into practice on any missions? Like were you ever like, I'm guessing, I'll never forget them. Some of the greatest people I've ever met.

Did you put this into practice on any missions? Like were you ever like, I'm guessing, no, not, not, they're like, Hey, you're going to be the comms for this group. No, because I was so like brand new to, you know, to that environment, to that world, there was a lot of other senior code operators that, uh, you know, that took the lead was a lot of other senior code operators that took the lead on a lot of things. I would just sit back and do my OJT on the job training, going through my books, my upgrade training. I didn't really get involved in a lot of real world stuff. And then what happens from there? Then after that stint is in San Antonio, Chapman, then

what happens? Yeah, I decided that I wanted to get out of active duty and I was dealing with some personal stuff, family stuff, and I wanted to be closer back to home with my family. And so I decided to leave my active duty enlistment and go into the Air Force reserves and And get stationed back at Beale Air Force Base in California What's what's funny about about that is that the Air Force? You know, it's always at the needs of the the DOD or the Air Force and here I here I am You know, they just dumped

However much money into my training, into my security clearance, you know, all this stuff and then they're like, oh, you're gonna get an active duty, you need to cross train and here are the four jobs that you qualify for and I was, you know, I was kind of blown away and shocked to think that you're just gonna throw away this resource that you just spent all these years, you know, grooming and training. Okay. So, uh, again, slightly ignorant on my, my part, but, um, one of the options was going into a, uh, a logistics or transportation company and driving trucks. But what really sold me on that was again, the recruiters like you're going to deploy all the time and I'll, you know, that's why I joined the service

was to deploy and see, you know, the world. And so I ended up cross training into what's called the vehicle operations. And that's a part of the logistics readiness squadron of the air force. And I had to go to Fort Leonardwood, Missouri of all places also known as Fort Lost in the Woods, because it's in the middle of nowhere. Do not recommend visiting that place.

It's basically in between Springfield and St. Louis. And I think at the time when I went there, the two biggest hotspots were a Walmart and a Ruby Tuesdays. And so- And that was in Missouri? Yeah. And did that was in Missouri. Yeah. Did they have tampons in the boys bathrooms there?

Oh, I love it. Not at the time, man. Although we know that things are changing, but they've upgraded since you've been there. Yeah, for sure. But that's what I learned how to drive, you know, all different types of vehicles, everything from forklifts to semi trucks, the buses to M series, you know, military style vehicles, you name it. And when you say you're in the reserve, so they train you up, that's like six months

and then all or something like that. And then all of a sudden you're just in one week a month. We have that that school was only six weeks to learn how to drive all these different vehicles is only six weeks. And then they just kick you to your reserve unit. And then you have the expectation there is to drill or show up to your unit, you know, once a month or one weekend a month, every year and then go do an

annual tour somewhere that, you know, that was obviously early GWAT days. And you know, the historically the reserves and the guard, they that's what their schedule was it was very Routine one weekend a month two weeks a year and then as G watt developed and turned into what it was and The whole one weekend a month two weeks a year Guard and reserve mentality mindset routine whatever you want to call it went right out the window you know, I spent the majority of my career as a reservist and a guardsman and the mindset routine, whatever you want to call it, went r career as a reservist and

weekend a month and two w I've spent a lot of time a guardsman bounce around o to to TDYs the deployments you name it It's actually it's just an interesting facade if you will. It's it's it's just not a thing anymore I guess in some capacities for some career fields. It's still a thing certainly not as a tech P which I'll get into in a second, but But yeah, that that's that was the expectation just show up one weekend a month, two weeks a year, and do your job. And instead you were integrated into a regular, even though you're a reservist,

you were integrated into the regular operations of the United States Air Force. Yeah, I was pretty quickly. So I was expecting to do that one weekend a month, two weeks a year thing. But the day of graduation before I took my end of course exam in Fort Leonard would I got pulled aside by the by the schoolhouse superintendent. He said, Hey, man, we just got a phone call from your home station chief. And she said you better pass your test because you just got orders to Iraq in two weeks. What year was that? 2005. Wow.

And I was like, what? He was like, yep, good luck, buddy. And I was like, I'm a young E4 and I'm just doing my thing. And next thing you know, I got popped for deployment orders to leave for Iraq in August of 2005. And I was like, all right, here we go. So graduated school, came home, packed up my stuff,

and I got to my unit and they had everything lined out for me, all my deployment gear, everything, and we started hitting the ground running. We had about a week or so of spin up training, doing some quick, you know, whatever training, and then off we went. Brock, and so when you go to Iraq, are you driving trucks? Are you part of like a supply chain? Yeah, that's exactly right. So we were doing supply and logistics, you know, moving cargo throughout the AOR or the area responsibility the my first

Shit, I'm sorry. That sounds scary as shit. Yeah, I'll tell you driving trucks in in the Middle East during any time between 2002 and 2016 or 2011 really wasn't a good time. I Mean you're just a moving target, right? I mean I just pick it like you're carrying fucking 50 pallets of water and 10 pallets of guns and you're there like drop it off over here. Yeah Yeah, the so the first are you driving semis big big trucks like that like 18 wheelers around there. Yeah the So I got to clarify that the the first two deployments that I did

were strictly you know on base. They were not super sexy, super fun, but you know nonetheless they were deployments. The third vehicle operation deployment that I had was the the line haul convoy deployments where we were picking up cargo. Everything from like what you said, you know, bullets, beans and whatever to full on up armored tanks and hummers and all kinds of things out of

the ports in Kuwait and line hauling everything up all the way to you know to the northernmost part of Iraq and then everything west and east like it was all over the place. In six months we did about 16,000 miles around Iraq. Wow. Driving I mean everything from like I said bullets, beans, the armor to even one day picking up you know containers full of 155 rounds and driving those across country which you know is kind of gives you the

puckered effect when you know when when you're driving through IED Valley, IED alleyway, you know, route Irish and 95 and a half alpha up and down Tampa and all these different checkpoints that are just known for ambushes and IEDs and you're driving a 40 foot trailer full of 155 rounds. It was like, oh, this is it's gonna be one way to go. I have to assume that's very valuable to the enemy too. Oh yeah, you know, you never knew like what type, the ambush, you know, is one thing, but you know,

they want that ammunition. Like, I don't know what they can use. They can use it for IEDs, roadside bombs, whatever, but you know, everything but everything was valuable to the enemy as much as it was to friendly forces. So how many times were you deployed? I did three deployments as a vehicle operator, and I have only done one deployment as a TACP, so I've done more time overseas as a truck driver than I have as a special warfare operator.

That's what aCK-P is? Special warfare? Yeah. Yeah. And what is that? ATT&CK-P, Tactical Air Control Party. Our whole mission or our primary role and responsibility is what's called joint terminal attack control or earning a JTAC certification. And our whole primary objective or mission set is to advise ground force commanders on the employment of you know, close air support aircraft, among millions of other things that we do it's but the primary bread and butter is that JTAC certification and in using

close air support aircraft on on missions So because there's this video here and you're walking around and there's some crazy Different flying machines behind you Video there's there's a plane back there I don't remember I don't know what it's called But I remember being a little kid and 60 minutes doing a piece on it saying this is like the best plane Air Force had it's made of carbon. It's completely top secret. Was it called a blackbird or something?

There it is in the back there that thing. Yeah, the SR-71 blackbird. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that was a pretty popular plane back in the Cold War Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was a pretty popular plane back in the cold war. Um, is this a museum you're in or this is where planes are actually, this is a repair shop or what is this place? Yeah. I'm at, uh, right. Patterson, uh, Air Force base in Ohio a couple of weeks ago, a month ago. Um, and that is at the air force, um, museum. So the, uh, the air force national museum. All right. So you're not giving away any top secrets there walking around. No, no. Everything there is open source. You know, it's all open. Yeah, it's for the public

to come to you and check out. It's a really amazing place. I mean, talk about some heritage, some history to really understand where, you know, the Air Force came from. It's a pretty phenomenal place. Highly recommend, even for just the normal citizen on the street to go see and check out. It's a pretty amazing place. What state? What's it called again? Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio. Okay. So you do the deployments moving around gear for the... And when you do that, are you doing it for all the branches of the

government or just the Air Force or do you drop stuff off to Marines and Army guys in the whole bit? Yeah, our primary customer was actually the Army and the Marines when we were picking up and moving all this cargo out of Kuwait and bringing it up into Iraq. Not only were we bringing it north into Iraq, but we're also redeploying, so picking up stuff in Iraq and then bringing it back down to the ports in Kuwait. So constantly keeping army units in and out of the country and that was our primary customer. What's the longest drive you did time duration? Oh, you ever drove for

like 12 hours straight? Oh yeah, that was pretty common and it wasn't always at a high rate of speed either, you know, we We drove in 45 vehicle convoys. Okay with semi trucks So we're talking mile long convoys and we were when we were driving Mostly in southern Iraq where it was open, you know, we were doing, you know 65 miles an hour So with a hundred meter intervals in between each truck. So you can imagine how long 45 vehicle convoy was. But then when you got into tighter cities, towns, you know, we had to, you know, slow down the rate of speed to

five miles an hour, 10 miles an hour. So it took a long time to get from one point to another driving that many trucks. But it was not uncommon to spend 12, 16 hours out there on the roads driving. And what do you do if you have to pee? Just pee in a jar or something, in a bottle? Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, you use the old Gatorade bottles, which was always funny because you can imagine a group of dudes that spend so much time with each other. There's always the fun little pranks. I'm going to tell you a little bit about my friends and my friends and my friends and my

friends and my friends and my friends and my friends and my friends and my friends and my friends and my friends and my friends and my friends and my friends and my friends and my friends and my friends and my friends and my friends and my

friends and my friends and my friends and my friends and my friends and my friends and my I used to poke holes in the bottom of his piss bottle. And so when he was driving, he would be like, damn it, I pissed all over myself again. And little did he know. I'm just sitting there. Like the little thing. Just a tiny little one that he wouldn't see. Just little pin holes in the bottom, right?

Just enough for it to drip out. And he'd be like, god damn it, I pissed all over myself again. But that's funny for, for the dudes and the gals, you know, there were women out there with us, but how do the women pee? How do they do it? They, um, you know, they had their own system and they, they did, they could pee and drive at the same time.

The women had a system too. I, I don't remember that necessarily being the case, but they definitely had their unique way of, you know, field bathroom breaks, if you will. And there was, I don't know, they made it work. There's some stories that will blow your mind. I mean, these women- Because you can't say, someone can't be like, hey, I got to take a piss and the whole caravan stop, right? No, that's not a thing. Yeah. We're not. They, they,

they made it work and, and God love them for it. You know, they were troopers and, and they were along the way every way that they, they, they could, you know, make it work. But I did not envy them. They had to alter their uniforms because we wore flight suits when we drove convoys because back in the day, our uniforms weren't flame retardant. So they gave us flight suits, they were flame retardant. And the whole idea behind that was, you know, getting in an IED or a blown up vehicle, caught on fire,

whatever, that we had these flame retardant uniforms. So they had to alter their uniforms that zippers added in specific places so that they could easily take off the bottom half of their flight suit and keep all of their, you know, the body armor on and all that stuff. So, I mean, it was just something they had to do

and they figured it out and, you know, get on them. Any of the convoys ever have any trouble? you ever in those 16,000 miles any issues any attacks any hairball shit oh yeah every every day was you know before before every every mission we always did a roadside brief like a convoy briefing and and talked about you know essentially the last 24 and like the next 24 with enemy activity in the area we talked about, you know, attacked with small arms, ambushes, whatever. Fortunately for me and my convoy, we only took minimal contact. I do

remember, you know, some there was there was a couple nights, you know that were pretty hairy but it wasn't it wasn't nearly as bad as as as you know, other convoys experience. So, I was pretty fortunate, pretty lucky. I mean, there was my truck specifically, like my driver and I we it was always a truck in front of us or the truck behind us for whatever reason it was. They got it. Yeah. So, but, but yeah, all in all at the end of

the day, very minimal. We never took a loss. We did sustain a couple of casualties like injuries, casualties to a gun truck that drove over an IED and took out the passenger, the gunner and one of the guys in the backseat. But they were all, you know, casted back out of there with injuries. And they're fine, as far as I know, today. But at with injuries and they're fine as far as I know today But at the time they were fine. So so so in this convoy of 45 there's there's At least one vehicle that's made is along just along just to kick ass and that vehicle took Was was hit. Yeah. Well, we we had four gun trucks at a minimum with our convoy all the time to include, depending

on what cities we were in, like if we were in Mosul, we had Apaches or AH-64s on station as well. And you would hear them flying over? Oh man, they'd be 50 feet over the top of my truck. Wow. Yeah, they were in it. It was pretty cool. It was actually really cool. You know, no, no,

I, yeah, to be honest, I don't think anybody in my convoy specifically was talking to him. We didn't, we didn't have a controller or a JTAC attached to my convoy team. So those dudes were just flying, probably, you know, just following the convoy and just looking outoy team. So those dudes were just flying, probably just following the convoy and just looking out for us. So- And when you say at night, there would be some things that would happen. Would you guys just stop and pull over on the side of the road and

everyone just sleep out in the dirt? And then he'd be like, sleep for 10 hours or six hours or four hours and we're heading out again? No, we never slept on the side of the the I mean, there were days or nights I should say that we were doing what's called a long halt. And you know, that could have been hours waiting for an EOD team to come out and do like a controlled debt on a roadside bomb or maybe there was a bridge out or you know, something we would do a long halt, but we would never stay and sleep overnight on the side of the road. We would always make it to the next camp or the next fob, the next

cop, whatever it was, we would always make it somewhere in bed down. So, damn, that sounds like just hours and hours of stress. It was, and it wasn't, it wasn't very comfortable, right? Like sitting in, in the, the up armored semi trucks, there wasn't a lot of space and Like sitting in the up armored semi trucks, there wasn't a lot of space. And plus with all your gear on, and of course the air conditioners never worked. So, you know, you're driving around in 120 degree weather

with all your gear and kit on. And it was not enjoyable, but it was enjoyable. Is that the first thing you did when you got in the truck? Every time you got a new truck, you check to see if they see? Yeah. Does it have serious XM and it's like, thing you did when you got in the truck every time you got a new truck you check this see if they see Does it have serious XM and it's like do you have AC that's right? Yeah That was the number one thing that we cared about like the air conditioning and this thing worked and and The AC for those trucks back in the day was sliding the armored window open about three inches and that was all you got So oh, so you're not even driving with your windows down? No, absolutely not.

Yeah. Oh my goodness. Yeah, so you're in a sauna, a sweat box, for however many hours it takes to get from one location to another. Yeah, but we, my driver and I have managed to install our own speaker system and iPod, you remember the old little iPods back in the day?

Yeah. So we bought some computer speakers and a little amp and an AC adapter plug-in and we had it all set up. We were listening to all kinds of good jams on the road. It was fun. So after all of that, then you pivot to, what did you call it? Six pack, T pack, special it? Six pack T pack special operations. Six pack. Yeah, tacky tactical air control party.

It's Air Force Special Warfare. And I transitioned out of you know, did you ask for that? I'm sorry. Did you ask for that? I did. I it's what I wanted. So if you go all the way back to basic training 2002 is when I first learned about Tac-P because they sent their recruiters to our basic training flight, you know, to try and give us their spiel on who they were and what they did. And they were talking about the first Gulf War and all the laser guided bombs and they were tank killers and, and I was like, that sounds badass. I want to go do that. So they opened up a tryout during basic training to come take their physical agility and stamina test and anybody that passed it could go sign their transfer paperwork. So I did. I went and took the test. I passed it and right away the recruiter was like, oh man, you know, got the green light to

go sign your paperwork to go become a tac P. And I was like, sweet. Well, the day I went to go sign the paperwork, I had to go to sick call because I was sicker than a dog. And my, my training instructor, Ti, she, she wouldn't let me she would not let me go to the recruiting office and sign my transfer paperwork, because I was sick that day. I always, what I'm going with that is that I always had this, you know, this, this goal, dream, ambition whatever you want to call it to become a tactical air control party service member. So, you know, and as, as life happens, you know

all that got put to the wayside for a long time. And I was focusing on other parts of my career and my life. And then eventually in, in about 2012, 2013, after all my deployments and thinking about, you know, where I should be and what I want to be doing, I, uh, I got pretty serious about cross training into becoming a tack P and, uh, and then ended up cross training over in 2015. So, and specifically, so if there's a mission, do you advise

on what planes to take or what aircraft to take? There's a whole request process and you know, and a lot of the service members probably listening will understand exactly what I say when I say this, but it's all METTC, right? It's all METTC dependent, which that'll take me hours to try and explain, but it's really situational based. Depending on the mission that you're going on, what the objective is and whatnot is how you request specific aircraft and ordinance. But yeah, that's the idea.

Essentially you're advising ground force commanders on the appropriate use and employment of certain aircraft, whether it's rotary wing or fixed wing, to meet the ground commander's intent and to help their scheme of movement maneuver from point A to point B. So you'll have the operation explained to you like, hey, we have five guys hiding out in an apartment building that's wedged in between 100 other apartment buildings and they're on the fifth floor. What kind of air support? And then you would be like, these are the options.

This is what we recommend. That's right. Yeah, it's in kind of a weird way, you know, it's a game. It's a puzzle and you got to figure out, you know, how to match certain, to match certain techniques, tactics, and procedures with different aircraft capabilities and functions and then meeting the ground commander's intent. It's really fun. There's a lot of staff coordination you got to go into.

There's a lot of game planning. There's a cyclical phase that we use in this matrix or in this world, and it's planning, preparation, execution, and assessment. Those four steps are cyclical. They're constantly happening. But the majority of your work as a TACP or a JTAC is all in the planning and preparation phase. The poorer planning and preparation you do,

the poor the execution, right? And that goes with everything in life. So being able to be, you spend 70 to 80% of your time planning and preparation for 15 to 20% of execution and 5% of assessment. So it's very heavy on the front end and that's where we earn our value and that's where we showcase our value and that's where we earn a lot of respect from the back end. So, not only are you an expert in the aircraft, but in the weapons that they have. Yeah, I think there's a general misunderstanding.

Sure, we have a knowledge base. There are really, really, really smart, smart tech peas out there that are, I would consider experts. Me not so much. I'm, I'm not an expert by any means. I rely on experts. You know, I'm never the smartest man in the room. And I'll own that every day of the week, but I certainly know how to, to figure out a, you know, a solution to a problem. With our powers combined, we can figure this out, right?

So I'm not gonna claim that I'm an expert on all aircraft capabilities and munitions capabilities, but I know where to find the answer, I know to ask. Right, okay, so lemme rephrase it. There's someone on the team, the team's not just interested in aircraft, but also on the weapons that they, it's everything. I mean, it sounds crazy.

You have to know weather, terrain, the weapons they use, the targets, the people who are shooting back at you, right? I mean, it sounds like there's a shitload of things you have to take into consideration based on what aircraft you send in. Oh yeah, and not even the aircraft. But to your point, like you are kind of the belly button on everything that's going on. You have to know all friendly elements and their locations, right? Because our number one goal outside of, you know, the routing and safety of flight for aircraft, but is to eliminate or reduce

fratricide to friendly forces, whether that's a US or partner forces or coalition, whatever. So you have to you have to battle track everything that's going on in the ground. So not only are you thinking horizontally, but you're also thinking vertically. So the battle space for us is three dimensional all the time. And so we have to we have to think in a three dimensional mind space or a mindset in every scenario that we're put into. But so it's it's it's not uncommon for the tag P or the J tag to be very annoying because we're asking so many questions. That's just a standard part of our job. But that's just to help us build our situational awareness so that we have positive control

of the aircraft and we are battle tracking families at all times possible. Do you do rescue missions also? I did. I was attached to a personal recovery task force when I was in Africa back in 2019, 2020. And that was a really interesting mission set. That was something that was kind of new to the special warfare community was integrating TacP JTACS with Para Rescue and their Guardian Angel mission.

A lot of fun, learned a lot, learned a lot in that capacity. It's one thing to be a tack P and to do what we do and drop bombs and whatnot. But to work in a personal recovery mission is a whole nother beast, it really is. Jake Chapman, did you know that baseballs feel a lot like testicles of a blue whale? Sorry, wrong show, Jake.

Heidi Krum, why are military men so emotionally unavailable? We'll have Brock back on for another question. Our mustache is a disguise. Yes. Yeah. I love the questions. This is great. Yeah.

Dope outdoor packs. We will get to that. I'm a huge fan of the fanny pack. I. I'm a huge fan of the fanny pack I'm a huge huge fan of the fanny pack. I always use them when I'm out filming But we'll get to that in a second. That was kind of a surprise that you are a part of dope outdoor packs. Okay Um, so, um, oh, okay here this one will let him answer has Douglas ever played Call of Duty Yeah, I was you know back in the day when Call of Duty was you know a thing and When it really became, you know new on the scene. Yeah, I was a little bit of a gamer I had a couple roommates that I lived with actually in Livermore of all places and

We gamed pretty religiously and then as we all kind of grew up and went our own separate ways You know a lot of guys a lot of my buddies moved out of state and it was one of the only ways that we continued talking to each other was playing Call of Duty, you know, online gaming. And so we did that for a number of years. And yeah, it was pretty fun. I was never any good. Like, I couldn't even tell you what my rating was, but it was probably awful. Video game combat is not my thing. Not your forte? No.

So you popped on my radar because in November of 2023, you were diagnosed with myocarditis and pericarditis. That's right. Can you tell me the build-up? And you were in good shape. I thought I was. Yeah. I mean, relative to the average American, you were in good shape. I thought I was. Yeah. Yeah. Relative to the average American, you were in great shape. Right.

You know, being, being, being the guy that I, that I've been my entire life, you know, very, uh, very fit athletic, you know, grew up playing soccer, like we already talked about, um, but also in my twenties, you know, I was an ultra marathon runner, a trail runner, road runner, avid mountain biker, you know, just an outdoor enthusiast. I've never had medical problems. I mean, I've had injuries, but I've never had like severe medical problems or issues or concerns.

Every physical that I've ever had with my doctor has always been great. No issues, no nothing. Maybe, maybe some high cholesterol, right? And that's about it. And then in November of 2023 is when, realistically, my whole life took a turn very quickly, very suddenly overnight. Which was, as you would imagine, everybody else that's probably listening, it was insanely shocking for a lot of reasons. I never expected in my life to have gone through what I went through.

It was traumatic and it was life altering for sure. Why did you originally go to the doctor? What were you feeling? It kind of it started a few days. So to answer your question, I was feeling a lot of pain and discomfort in the chest. It felt like an elephant was sitting on my chest. It was I was having a little bit of trouble breathing like having to constantly take deep breaths. But you know, but I didn't think anything of it. You know, the mentality that I

have and kind of how I've again been indoctrinated or or I guess conditioned over the years is like just brush it off. You know, shrug it off. You know, I've been doing itctrinated or I guess conditioned over the years is like, just brush it off, you know, shrug it off and keep pushing through.

And so that's, that was what I did when I started feeling these symptoms. I was like, ah, you know, it's anxiety, it's stress, it's depression. It's a number of different things, but I never equated it to it being a cardiac event. When I, you know, you watch movies or TV or whatever, and you see somebody having a heart attack, the first thing they do is they grab their chest and they fall down to the ground, and they're like, I'm having a heart attack.

That was not at all my case and or my symptoms. It was just a lot of pressure in the chest. And so naturally when I when I I felt all of this pressure and this discomfort on Wednesday, November 29th, I was actually on the range controlling aircraft in a training scenario, doing doing my job as a tech P running through some currency training. and I could feel this pressure building up in my chest. And at the time, I just thought it was anxiety and nerves from from controlling aircraft. It's actually, I got that feeling for years when I would go out and

control aircraft and do my job. I got butterflies all the time. So I didn't think anything of it. And when we got through the training scenario, the pressure continued building, it became worse and worse. And that's where I was like, okay, maybe something's not right, but I'm gonna go to bed. I'm gonna sleep this off and I'm gonna wake up tomorrow. I'm gonna be fine.

It's just gonna, it's a man cold, right? That's what I kinda thought it was, a man cold. Cause we all know that the man cold is the worst cold on civilization. Right. So that morning, you know, when I woke up and the pressure was still persistent and the discomfort was still there.

It had amplified quite a bit. But again, you know, I I woke up I made coffee had breakfast and didn't really think it drove myself to work and and that's where I started talking to a buddy at work who his whole story is really interesting and if it was anybody else that had told me to go to the doctors I probably would have told them to f off. But because of this particular subject, and his experience with medical issues, and when he was like, Hey, dude, trust me, don't ignore your symptoms, go check out a

doctor. I was like, you know what? Valid, I'm gonna go do that. So I did. And what's really funny about all of this is, you know, I was I was complaining about all this chest pain to my girlfriend at the time about like, what was going what I was feeling. And she kept telling me like, Oh, it's fine. You're being a big baby, you know, whatever. And, you know, bless her soul is like she no maliciousness whatsoever. She

was just like, dude, you're like, you're fine. Like, don't worry about it. Well, I go to primary health and urgent care or whatever. They hooked me up to an EKG and the doc comes back and he was like, hey man, I don't have the ability to further test you on what's going on. He goes, but your EKG came back with some really interesting readings.

And I highly recommend that you go to the emergency room like right now. I was like, well, that doesn't sound comforting. What's going on, man? That was in the same hospital? You would just walk there? No. So urgent care is several miles away from the ER.

OK. And where, again, it didn't really click that this was something crazy, you know, that it was urgent is that they didn't call an ambulance to come pick me up. The dude, the doctor there told me to drive myself to the ER and I was like, okay, well, it must be not that bad. I'm just gonna go get further testing. Like what?

What's that? This is on a base. No, this is all civilian doctors, right? So being in the Air National Guard, we don't have a full operational medical facility, right? So we go see our primary care physicians in the outside world. And so I went to go see the docs at Urgent Care. They sent me to the VAER of all places, and probably because they were like,

oh, you're a service member, you're a vet, you should go to the VA. So I did, and when I got there, I got greeted at the door by like four or five, nurses, doctors, whatever, like, hey, you must be Mr. Brock, and I was like, how did you know that's me? They said, well, the doctor from Urgent Care called us

and notified us that you were coming, we have a room for you, and I was like, how did you know that's me? I said, Well, the doctor from urgent care called us and notified us that you were coming, we have a room for you. And I was like, Okay, cool. First, you know, first class treatment. This is cool. And go back in, they, they put me in my own room, strip me down, I put a gown on, lay me down in a gurney. And then right away, I got two IVs, one in each arm. And they're pumping me full meds. I'm like, it was like, what's going on? Yeah.

I'm like, well, we're going to give you another EKG. Uh, and we're going to have the doctor come talk to you in a second. And I was like, all right. And, and I, and I remember texting, uh, my girlfriend and I was like, well, it sounds like there's something wrong. Like an EKG just came back that that's showing some weird signs update you and I can kind of a thing well the doctor comes back in he was like all right man before before we get into the nitty-gritty on what's going on I need to ask you a question

because there's all of your emergency medical contact information updated in your in your personal file and that's where it hit me and I was like oh shit this is serious right I was like that yeah for you could die yeah and I was like doc what's going on man and went through a couple other questions he was like here's the deal your ekg is showing that you're having a heart attack and that we have reason to believe that there are uh you know blood clots or clogs, uh, clogs in your arteries. And you're going to go into an emergency angiogram procedure. We just called an ambulance to come pick you up, to take you to another hospital,

to have that operation. And Doug, when you say heart attack, that means something's wrong with the beating of the heart. Is that what a big picture? Like something's like, there's too much, not enough blood or too much blood. What is a heart attack? I'm not a doctor. I don't know. With the pumping of the heart.

Yeah, it's yeah, some sort of at a rhythm or you know, there's not enough oxygen or blood getting to you know, the heart from the heart, right? That's my speculator. I don't know. I'm not a rocket surgeon. I couldn't tell you. Okay. like you like, I don't know, I'm not a rocket surgeon. I couldn't tell you. Okay. So, but I think we all understand the impact or the significance of a heart attack. And so of course, immediately I go into kind of like freak mode and that's when I texted my girlfriend again.

I was like, hey, they're telling me I'm having a heart attack and she fucking freaked out, rightfully so So and I was like, see, I told you I was this was a serious condition this whole time. You told me it was just a man cold and it wasn't a big deal. But see, ha ha jokes on you. I was you know, I wasn't lying and well anyway, so they they they they're gurning me outside to an ambulance and that's when that's when it hit me pretty hard. A number of years ago, my friends and I lost a really good buddy to a very unfortunate, unexpected situation

where he woke up one morning very fine and ended up passing away to a blood clot that had traveled through his body. And so the first thing I thought of when they told me that I had clots was sneaking on my way to a blood clot that had traveled through his body and so the first thing I thought of when they told me that I had clots was sneaking to my old buddy and and it hit

me really hard and I was like, holy **** like this is real. This is happening and they got me into the back of the ambulance and you know, I always try and find some sort of sense of humor and in anything that I'm going through to help keep things light and I get back

in the ambulance and I asked the paramedic and I was like, Hey, dude, you mind if we drive lights and sirens to the next hospital? I've never been in the back of an ambulance before. He was like, of course we're gonna drive lights and sirens having a fucking heart attack. All right, cool. But yeah, so then they sent me to to the next hospital for the for the I'm not sure. but uh yeah. So I was on the show. There was I've been my entire life to now all of a sudden being told that I'm having a heart attack and they think that there's blood

clots in my arteries and it was just it blew my mind man like straight up. But anyways they ended up putting me under the knife scoping my heart so they put a little camera up into my to my artery my arm all the way into My heart to scope for for blood clots and blockages in my arteries. And now this is where it gets really interesting They didn't find anything zero blockages No blood clots. No Clogging of the arteries in fact, and I quote, the doctor said, your arteries are crystal clear.

And then that's where they started asking questions about my heart and why I was having this cardiac event. So that's where they wheeled me into another room after the procedure, and they started giving me an echocardiogram or ultrasound, and they were taking images of my heart. They were doing scanning of my chest, and that's where, and then they did that,

and then I had a chest MRI the next day, where I sat in that machine, whoa, whoa, whoa, for, oh my God, it felt like an eternity, and I wanted to blow my brains out in that, you know, machine for oh my god, it felt like an eternity and I wanted to blow my brains out and that stupid thing. And, and then they left me in the hospital for the next, you know, three or four days or whatever it was. And then I met with my cardiologist who came in a couple days later to basically backbrief me on everything that had transpired

and what their findings were and what her understanding of my situation was. And that's when they told me that I had inflammation of the heart, myocarditis, pericarditis, and I had acute heart failure. So pericarditis and myocarditis, one's inflammation inside the heart and one's outside

the heart. Is that the distinction? Correct. Okay. That's my understanding as well. Okay. Yeah. And so, you know, like this is all new to me. So you can imagine, I have millions of questions. First of all, what is myocarditis? What is pericarditis? And I'm sorry, did you say heart failure? Like what is heart failure? And what does that look like? And so she was, man, she was amazing in all of the ways. She was very patient and explained everything in great detail. Thank God for my girlfriend,

because she's kind of the sponge in all of this stuff. She was the one that was paying attention where I'm all drugged up had just gone through this pretty traumatic event. And it was almost like information was one in one year and out the other. And so she was more or less, you know, receiving all the information for me and then breaking it down to layman's terms and helping me understand what was really going on. But But but yeah, they found in the imaging and the ultrasound and the on and the MRI that my heart

You know had all this inflammation, but it was the acute heart failure that really was was kind of interesting the So the left ventricle I learned all kinds of things about the heart over the last year I'm sure you can imagine first thing is up until November 30th, 2023, I didn't even know I had a heart. So there's a silver lining there, which I thought was pretty funny. But yeah, the acute heart failure, you know, the left ventricle that pumps the blood back into your body. So you have the right heart and the left heart and the right heart brings the blood in the left heart pushes the blood out. And my left ventricle had had, I don't want to say shut down, but it was operating at about 35%. And my understanding is that a normal ejection fraction is somewhere between like 50, 55, and 65%.

Like that's a normal ejection fraction of the heart and I was not there by any means. Oh, there you go. Look at that. Bring it up. Meaning it wasn't pumping enough blood out. Correct. Okay. Correct. Yeah, that... Yeah, down there, the left ventricle. Yeah, it was it was it was not it was not doing what it should have been doing and then you know that was. That's I mean, yeah, so the myocarditis, the perigraditis and then the the acute heart failure and that's that's what I ended up succumbing to but if you the way she broke it down for me was you know part part let

me back up a little bit part of part of this whole thing too was doing you know blood work a toxicology report and that's where they found a lot of really interesting things as well. To start, the amount of heavy metals that were in my body and my blood, you know, severe levels of uranium and thallium, which was not necessarily a surprise to me given the nature of my job and what I do. I travel all over the world and I've been all over the Middle East as both a DOD service member but also as a DOD contractor. So I spent most of my late 30s and early 40s, still in my early 40s deployed to the Middle East. So constantly exposed to very, very, the Traponin like was through the roof apparently. My D-dimers and spike proteins were also through the roof.

Now, again, I'm not a rocket surgeon. I can't speak intelligently to what D-dimers are and spike proteins are, what troponin levels are. But I know now that they're all in some way and form and fashion affiliated with what we all know as the COVID-19 vaccination or the viral viral infection of

COVID. So, based on all of these findings, you know, kind of like summarize it all up again based on the the echocardiogram, the MRI, the toxicology report and the blood work. My cardiologist basically put together this hypothesis or educated guests on her end that there was a direct correlation between the viral infection of COVID and the COVID-19 vaccination. So,

vaccination. So sorry, a correlation between the injection and your issue or the or the infection and the issue that so from from my doctor's note, which I have pulled up right here, it says it is in my professional opinion, that etiology of Mr. Brock's myocarditis is a combination of spike protein persistent from the mRNA vaccine in addition to the recent COVID infection. So it's interestingly enough, I mean, I'm not going to read the whole note, but the last line in this doctor's note Due to the known correlation between myocarditis and the mRNA vaccines under no circumstances Under no circumstances should mr. Brock receive any further mRNA COVID vaccines

Fucking kudos to her. Yeah, she's uh, she's an amazing woman. She really you know stood her ground and Man, she she gave me a phenomenal path to recovery, which I'm sure we can probably get into here in a little bit, but But yeah, that was the initial response from my heart condition was you know, that was that was the the correlation or I don't want to say like the from my heart condition was, you know, that was the correlation, or I don't wanna say like, the 100% certainty that that's what caused my acute heart failure, myocarditis, but I mean, she's a doctor.

Let me tell you, let me read you what you wrote on your Instagram. I don't believe in coincidences and the rise of myocarditis and other heart issues over the past three or four years is wild to me Especially for a dude like me. I should have never been put into this position, but when I text you You seemed more standoffish about it. Well, it's to be completely honest. That was like who is this dude? Okay, okay

I actually thought I was like man. I'm gonna have this guy on he's gonna talk about all this I'm gonna see I'm gonna see man, I'm going to have this guy on. He's going to talk about all this. I'm going to see, I'm going to see if I can lead them to that point. And, um, if he goes there, he goes there. Um, this show is, I mean, I have a huge bias. I have a monstrosity of a bias tomorrow. I'm having Jay Bhattachary on hopefully he'll become head of the CDC. Uh, you know, and he was, he's an, PhD at Stanford who got fucking ostracized because him and a bunch of other guys in 2020 were like, wait a second, boy, something's not right here. Right. Yeah, it's unfortunate. There's a lot of very prestigious doctors, medical professionals

that just kind of got shunned after all this for standing up and for what they believe in their, you know, it's unfortunate that we've gotten to this point, you know, where we can't trust medical professionals in some capacity. So when you had you when you went there for that, and they told you that, did you right away be like, oh, did you have any suspicions before? Had you been red-pilled at all before? Oh, no. But, you know, like, again, 22 years of service, do you know how many vaccinations I've received?

Right, right. You're in different countries. You know, all the different countries that I've been to and the places that I've gone and all the different mandated shots that I've had to get to go and deploy and travel. Like, yeah, when this when this whole thing turned into what it was, first off, like I was, I was in Africa when COVID-19 became the pandemic, right. And I got stuck in Kenya for a couple months because of this whole thing.

And- We're in Kenya, off the coast or on a boat or? No, I was on the East, on the East coast of Kenya. Let's say. Like, oh, like the Northeast by like where the bad guys in Kenya meet together? Yeah, I was, yeah, I was just south of the Somali border. So north of, that's where Mombasa is, right?

Oh yeah, that's a hairball spot. Yeah, it was. I've got a whole story about that deployment. That's like where, and that's also, there's crazy pirates out there. That's like where pirates live off that coast. Yeah, it's for sure Pirates Central. There's a lot of a lot of interesting things that go off the coast there. But I wasn't doing anything out into the out in the water. Primarily everything was land based. But that's when I was doing the the PRTF

personnel recovery task force mission was working Kenya down there. Let's pause the vaccine talk for a second. No shit. So did you, were you involved with, can you talk about that? Were you involved with rescuing people out of Somalia? Not Somalia. I kind of, this whole- I remember that back then. I was going back and forth to Mombasa maybe Prior to that and it was fucked up over there. I remember if they said hey if you go north of Mombasa It's not you're on your own. Yeah, it's when I was when I was You know deployed to East Africa

Talking to some people like oh, yeah, I'm gonna go to Kenya for vacation and I was like what? to some people like, Oh yeah, I'm going to go to Kenya for vacation. And I was like, what the fuck are you doing? Why? Why would you come here? You know? So, you know, and I also had a, you know, a different lifestyle out there and I was only seeing the bad necessarily. You know, where everybody else is seeing the good and all Shabbat or something. What was the name of the group up there? Yeah. I was Shabab was one of the heavy hitters up there. So, so this deployment that I was on, um, I was attached to what's called the East African response force or the earth company. And, uh, they were the 101st airborne, uh, two of the five Oh six of all, um, units.

And we were stationed out of now traveling couple thousand miles to the southeast down into Kenya. There was a small camp there called Camp Simba and this was you know not by definition in a quote unquote combat zone and it was a it was kind of a hidden little gem but it was

an airfield that housed very very significant DOD assets, civilian contractors and the other units out there. and he was in his small arms the airfield. Uh so it was uh reason why is because they were still uncertain on what the airfield looked like And they weren't sure if we could land RC 130 on the airfield there. Yeah, that's Camp Simbo. All right So if you look at the right image you see the airfield 16 on it the big long. Yep. Okay. Yeah, so so The the south end of the airfield you can't see it's in the top right corner of that right picture And that's where the attack started from where they were on foot Al Shabaab was moving south to north of the airfield and

You know, they they ended up just neutralizing everything there. I mean we're talking all air assets Fuel bladders so that big smoky plume that you see there, that's the fuel bladder for all the air assets that got blown up. And then, but so when I talk about air assets that are down there, there was all contract air as far as fixed wing and rotary or yeah, fixed wing and rotary wing, I believe. But the fixed wing was ISR birds, so your intel surveillance and reconnaissance assets. And then you had fixed wing personnel recovery assets. These guys would transport medical personnel or people needing medical aid in and out of

country by fixed wing. And when Al Shabaab attacked, they took out all of that stuff. So I'm kind of jumping around here. I apologize. No, that's okay. This is a great story. Yeah. So when we QRF down there from where Oh, from Djibouti. Yeah, we left Djibouti landed in Somalia, waited. We're on standby until we found out that the airfield was clear. We could land down there and so we we got back on the C130 in Somalia and then flew down to Camp Simba which you know it's that that whole situation is kind of seemed surreal to me as well. It was it was pretty

interesting. It's like cool. We're going to get on this big old plane and go land on an airfield. you know where there's RPGs and small arms and we're just you know, we're just this flying potato with wings. You know, it's going to

be pretty easy to see us. We're just a sitting duck but you know, we all got on the bird and we flew down there and and we got boots on ground and the and I'm grateful to Simba and thank god that they were there that that took the fight back to Ausha Bob. I'll leave him unnamed but they without fear hesitation rallied the the

troops and the masses and they went down to the airfield and and did and did their job correctly and appropriately in my opinion and with without them being there, there's no way my QRF was going to get down to that airfield at all. So we ended up linking up with those guys down there,

doing a handover and for the next two weeks, well, really the next five or six days, I was controlling US air assets 24 seven around the clock, doing surveillance and reconnaissance on the airfield, the US air assets 24 seven and creating some stability and then we started landing. and we were able to build, you know, barriers and Constantine we're talking about the maintenance. Uh we're talking everything from physical security stuff. You know, some barriers and constant wire and you know, front loaders, all kinds of things to help rebuild

the security down on the air field. Um you know that that whole situation was uh was a very preventable situation. Um but uh you know, maybe that's a subject or a conversation for another time and So after after two or three weeks being down there and seeing the magnitude of what happened after Al Shabaab attacked It was You know one it was it was just mind-blowing but but two it was like, okay

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Add yourself to any group photo through the magic of AI. Get yours with Telus at telus.com slash Pixel 9 Pro. So fast forwarding a little bit, when the Earth company and I redeployed back to Djibouti, got back up there and found out that they were going to send a para rescue team down to Kenya to do the PRTF mission and they needed a JTAC and so I got put on the PRTF team. So it was a five-man team, four, it was a combat rescue officer, three para rescue men and then myself. That's five, right? I can't do math. And so we were a five man team that went back down to Camp Simba

to do the the personnel recovery task force mission in that region. And then the rotary wing. Objective or you were just in a holding pattern. You just we yeah, we there was someone that needed to be rescued. There's always somebody that needs to be rescued, right? You never know. There's, there's friendly forces all up and down that coastline, uh, between Somalia and Kenya doing operations.

There was, uh, there was always stuff going on. Plus, you know, we, we owed it to the, our partner force to provide, uh, recovery and response to them as well. So you have the Kenyans that were out there in their military. So we're out there flying every day, mostly training scenarios, just kind of staying on alert but you know training Monday through Saturday, Sunday was kind of a sleep in day if you if we could but I ended up spending this is this is what's interesting because I went back down to Kenya to do the PRTF no shit we got on the c130 with all of our gear and I mean this is

when COVID was just becoming a thing like people are talking about it in the news people are talking about it on social media people are losing their fucking minds over toilet paper like remember that chaos yeah And, and, you know, they're starting to talk about mask mandates and all this shit. And I'm like, dude, I'm in the middle of East Africa. Yeah, you have bigger problems. Yeah, this is the last thing on my mind. We get on that C 130. We fly all the way down to Kenya. And we get off the plane and no shit. They're like, hey, we got bad news. I know you guys I'm going to fly all I was stuck in Kenya for two more months.

And it was wild. It was like, what just happened? The whole world. But if you're staying in Kenya, do they put you up in a hotel or no? Oh no, we slept in a wooden box with six rooms in it. Yeah, it was, yeah, we stayed on, we stayed in the hotel.

I know I'm in the Air Force. Okay. But, you know, we did not stay in a in. We stayed on the on camp Simba. The Jays that I was with, we ended up rebuilding this this wooden shack and turning it into our team room and our team or our team room in bed down location. And it was pretty sweet little setup. So we slept there. And then ended up working with a rotary wing battalion that flew in from the east coast of the United States to come out and support us. So we were working pretty closely with this army aviation unit. And yeah, and man, just listening to social media and whatever news that we could get and just watch in the world lose its mind over this, this, uh, you know,

this pandemic, it was, uh, it was weird because I'm, I'm literally stuck in the middle of a jungle in the middle of nowhere. The closest town is I don't even know how far away from me. And I'm in kind of like the best kept secret of the world right now. You know what I mean? Like I am isolated. I'm completely isolated. And so we didn't think about masks. We didn't think about, I mean, the conversation came impact on us because of where we were and what we were doing and the mission that we were fighting and all the training that we were doing. It wasn't until I redeployed to come home from East Africa where everything started to hit me in the face, and it hit me in the face with a ton of bricks. You know, I, there's being being a national guardsman and being deployed, I get deployment orders for X amount of days. And this deployment to Africa was only supposed to be four months initially. So my deployment orders were only for four months. But when I got stuck in Kenya, it was going to put me beyond my four month deployment.

So then it turned into like, how do we modify his orders? How do we do all this? You know, how do we keep, how do we extend him? And it was just this, this massive amount of chaos for, for any administrator. And I felt really bad for him, but you know, I'm, I can't be deployed in not beyond mill status. Oh, can confirm our head coach gym owner was supposed to be coming back from Djibouti at the same time and he got hung up twice behind quarantine. Yeah.

So, so did they put you back on? Did you go? Yeah. Yeah. So they, you know, the, some pretty senior leaders of the, uh, the air force got involved in, in, you know, it's just like, I wasn't the only one in the situation. There was a number of us so they got they amended

our deployment orders and obviously kept us there. They didn't really have a choice. I was I wasn't going anywhere and uh but when I came home from the deployment, I flew home with the the pair rescue squadron on a C5 from Jabuti

all the way back to Arizona and so I was on a gray tail, no commercial airliners, no civilian contact, no nothing. I get off the airplane in Davis Mountain in Arizona. And and I get driven to Tucson Airport so I can get on my civilian flight from Tucson back to Boise She's playing is ridiculous. Yeah, it's a big old plane I mean we it was you know a whole squadron plus all their gear and stuff. It was it was It was actually I don't really remember much of the flight

This thing landed on on runway 16 No, no, no, no, no, no, we don't Yeah, no, no, no, no, no. We left Kenya. Yeah, no. Runway 16. Right, I got my camps confused. OK. Yeah, no big deal. So we left Djibouti on the C5.

OK. But I got all the way back to Arizona. Now I have to get on my civilian flight. And it's like 0 dark 30 in the morning Arizona time. I'm just coming home from Africa. I have all of my deployment gear, my tack kit. I have three weapon cases with me. I've got everything and I'm by myself. There's nobody in the airport. And I walk up to the ticket lady and I'm not wearing a mask. Yeah. You know, it's like the last thing that's on my mind. Right. Immediately. She's like, where's your mask? You need to

have a mask on. I'm like, okay, hold on. You're like, sure. Let me put my shirt over my face. And I explained to her my situation. Hey, I'm just coming home from Africa. And you know, I'm trying to head home and she was like, I need to copy your orders. Are you in the clothes? Are you in the costume, military costume? Costume. No, I was in civilian clothes. I was in a normal t-shirt and shorts probably. Okay.

And the only set of orders that I had on me were my expired deployment orders because I got extended on the deployment. So I give them to her and immediately she starts accusing me of falsifying documents or providing expired documents. You know that was- Is that like the United Airlines counter? Yeah.

Some airline? Yeah, I don't wanna say it. That's crazy dude. She started like basically calling me a liar. My husband was in the military and I know what orders look like. And these aren't real orders. And I'm like, lady, I literally just got off of a C5 from Africa. I should have blown a snot rocket of dust on her.

I was I was I was like beside myself. Like what is going on? And then she had the audacity to call the airport police on me because I had weapons, okay? And I'm like, what just happened? What is going on right now? And these cops show up and they look at me and they're like, oh, clearly this dude's in the service.

Like obviously. And, and, and so now I'm trying to explain to the cops, I'm trying to explain to the ticket lady what's going on. And all I keep hearing about is I need to have a mask. And I'm just like, Oh my God, what is with this fucking mask thing? What is going on? I just got off a plane. I'm fucking tired. I just, I just want to get home. I haven't been home in seven months. Like, give me a break here. They finally got you out of there. They finally got me. They gave me my tickets. They got me on the plane. Well, no, I mean, I checked everything. And but then what's funny was I was at the gate getting ready to board my plane on the loudspeaker

intercom thing. Oh yeah, Paging Mister Brock, please dial whatever extension from the closest, you know, service phone. Oh boy. Now what? So, I call this number and and they wanted the combination to all of my padlocks on my weapon

system so that it's going to inspect them before flight. It's like whatever. Here you go. Just make sure that all the weapons get home, please. Like and I was like, I'm going to where what an experience. And you know, this whole thing was just shocking off for me because I was literally deployed in an environment where I was so isolated and removed from kind of what was going on in the world. And you know, I was focused on what I was doing to all of a sudden just being slapped in the face

with this pandemic. Even medical theater, you were in reality and then you entered medical theater land. Yeah, exactly. And I mean, even to this day, I have a hard time thinking about everything that transpired and what this world went through. I just, man, I couldn't catch up. I could not catch up. I was still behind. And eventually when I got off of my R&R and I went back to work, but that's the other thing is when I went back to work,

I went to a school in Germany. So I went right back overseas into Germany and spent time over there for four or five weeks, whatever it was. And I had to quarantine for two weeks in Germany before I could even start my class, which whatever. When do they give you the first injection? What year is that?

February of 21 is when they gave us the first shot. And then, and are you hesitant at all at that point or no, it's just another thing that they do to you I Went back and forth. It didn't seem like as much of a big deal to me as it did for other guys. I Didn't I do is a big deal for some guys were you like what's going on, dude? They've already pumped us up full of a ton of shit. Why are you trippin? 100% that's exactly where my mindset was I was like dude like who gives a fuck like you've been shot with so much shit Like why do you care? Yeah, and and boy, you know, I knowing what I know now

I wish I had you know kind of stood my ground a little bit but you know, these dudes were We're adamant about not getting it and I just why this is the hill you're gonna die on like this You're gonna you're gonna you know, potentially, they were onto something where, again, just me being the type of person I was, I wasn't researching it. I didn't know. And it's like, did you feel anything from the first shot, Brock? I don't remember any immediate side effects, you know, other than like maybe a cold here and there, uh, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you

know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, did you feel anything from the first shot, Brock? I don't remember any immediate side effects, you know, other than like maybe a cold here and there, uh, it wasn't anything crazy. Uh, nothing, nothing significant comes to mind. And then, and then when did you, how many boosters have you had? Uh, only one. And do you remember anything from that? I, after the second shot I couldn't I Couldn't stay healthy. I was sick all and when I got sick. It was like bedridden. I'm fucking dying

What year was that? man, that was I Mean same year. Yeah It all started pretty heavily in 2022. 2023 was, was probably the worst year for me being sick. Yeah. What a trip. And why, why do you, and then you went silent, you went social media silent for like 10 months?

Yeah, I did. Yeah. I just shut down after I found out, you know, what the potential correlation was. Man, I, I was so afraid of what I was going to say, because I'm, I'm still in the service, you know, I'm still in the guard. And I didn't want to say anything that was going to jeopardize my career, you know, throw any shade or bad light on anybody. So I just felt it was best for me to just completely remove my personal account. I still kept my business account, of course, because I mean,

business is business, right? But like on the personal side, man, I, I was really, really afraid of what I was pissed. I still am pissed. So when you say you were afraid, you were afraid of yourself, that you were just going to fucking just go scorch earth. Yeah. Yeah, I was, I was, I, you know, I don't know. I almost lost my life over this whole thing and this is a condition I have to live with for the rest of my life. And, uh, yeah, there's my, uh, my fanny packs and some shirts. Yeah. So this is my business. It's a little side hobby that I do dope outdoor packs. Um, yeah, that. Yeah, that this this whole idea actually stemmed

from my Africa deployment, doing the whole fanny pack thing. So which has been fun for me. There's a little workout video. And part of part of the you know, the the the reasoning behind you know, the the workout videos is is like dude. It's not the working out Hey, look at my my form my function my ability like it's not about that It's the story of my rehab and recovery and everything that I've come you know That I came through Then I'm back in the fight, and I'm training and working out again and to me. That's really important You know to share that story and perspective

that, uh, it doesn't matter what event you're going through or have gone through. Like there's a, there's a means to an end and you can always fight through it and keep and get back on the horse and ride again. And that's where that's where my, what my mindset has been the last, uh, eight or nine months is, uh, is getting back into the best shape I could possibly be in. Hey, um, are you on any medication? No. Oh, congratulations. Yeah. The, uh, they initially started me off on, um, metoprol and Val Sartin, uh, you know, some, uh, some heart, uh,

heart rate and blood pressure medicine, uh, I was in the hospital for Martin. You know, some some heart rate and blood pressure medicine with that I took religiously for the first about 60 or 90 days and then and then once I started rehab, I started they you know, they started weaning me off of that

stuff. So, I had to go through cardiac rehab for 3 months which was a very humbling experience for a guy like me. You know, being 40 years old. That's the other thing that's crazy about all this super young to have a cardiac event at 40 was again, just really surprising and shocking to me. So when I showed up to cardiac rehab, it was a class of like 15 or 20 of us. And I am by far the youngest by 30 years, you know? And everybody was like, what are you doing here, man?

I'm like, well, you know, I had acute heart failure and myocarditis. And so here I am rehabbing my heart. Is anyone in your life skeptical like that it was related to the injection? Oh, yeah, I mean It's close family, you know, they You know, I love I love my family to death. I love my dad. I love my mom stepmom stepdad like all phenomenal phenomenal people

but you know, they they're like all phenomenal phenomenal people but uh you know they they're they're believers in the vaccination and they and they they're all into it and you know i respect that i totally do that's their life choice and that's their decision um and then when i got discharged from the hospital you know i was uh i immediately called my dad and i told him what what the cause was and he my dad and I told him what what the cause was and he didn't believe me like he couldn't believe it you know and I was like well no it's literally written in my doctor's notes that there's a direct correlation between you know the COVID vaccination of my condition and you know it's I don't know what to tell you pop like this it is what it is. And, you know, I thought, I thought maybe they would have, I don't know, they, but yeah, I'll just leave it at that. So there's a guy in town in San, I'm in Santa

Cruz, California. There's a guy in town. Everyone knows I'm big wave surfer six four looks like Ken beautiful mom and girlfriend were pressuring him to get the injection for two years two years refused refused Finally took it week later fucking exact same situation you had started feeling like he was having a hard day like crazy fit guy surfs mavericks legend Yeah, it's his I said to your girlfriend and mom apologized. They said no, they said that there's no relationship. I'm just like, wow. And answer, answer this rhetorical question. But, uh, you know, I realize I'm human and you know, I'm, I'm not above anything, but, uh, how does a dude like me go from being the lifestyle that I've lived to all of the sudden having a significant cardiac event.

Like in that post that I made, like I don't believe in coincidences. I do not believe in coincidences. I don't. And so it's just the timing of everything, it just all adds up, you know, and it's pretty interesting. Now I will say that, you know, that there was, there was probably a number of contributing factors.

I myself can't pinpoint and say with 100% certainty that it was this, right? But I've lived this lifestyle my entire life and I've never had a fucking problem. And then all of a sudden you add This one thing to my life and everything changes and you're not an isolated incident No, I'm not man. I talked to all kinds of dudes in my community in the special warfare community who complaints

blood clotting other cardiac events asthma I'm not alone but it's crazy because all these dudes are insane. You know shape they're fit to fight and now all of a sudden they're being dropped out or you know they're dropping out left and right

again. I don't believe in quits. I don't believe in quits. I don't believe in quits. I don't believe in quits. I don't believe in quits. I don't believe in quits. I don't believe in quits. I don't believe in quits. I don't believe in quits. I don't believe in Insane, you know shape they're fit to fight and now all of a sudden they're being dropped out or you know They're dropping out left and right

Again, I don't believe in coincidences. You know, you started looking at everything from the big picture and you're like, holy shit What's going on here? I think yesterday the UK just released a study. That's gonna be pretty damning they studied over a million kids and Not a single unvaccinated kid had a cardiac event. All the cardiac events are from vaccinated kids. These are kids under 12, which is just fucking insane. Patrick Clark, you can get that service connected through the VA. Some people are getting 100% disability from it. Yeah. I, uh, I definitely uploaded all of my medical documents to the VA and started my claims and compensation, um, uh, process. So we'll see how it goes.

So tell me about what you, you you've gone through. You've just completely revamped, uh, your morning to sleep. You're, you're awake protocol on life. Can you walk me through some of the things you've completely changed? Yeah. I'll start off by, by kind of saying what my lifestyle was pre heart, you know, condition. Yeah. And, uh, you know, it was wake up, work out breakfast, lunch, dinner, and I didn't care what I ate. I didn't care, you know what I consumed

I mean I did within reason like I wasn't eating McDonald's every fucking day. In fact, I can't remember the last time I've had fast food, you know but You know, I thought I was eating healthy. I thought I was eating clean whatever But but yeah, man, I love my snacks. I love my chips. I love me, you know my peanut butter But yeah, I mean, I love my snacks. I love my chips. I love my peanut butter M&Ms, right? Like whatever.

But then I was also a drinker. Like I love my beer. I love my whiskey. I love my wine. And it wasn't uncommon for me to socially drink and go out and eat out all the time, eat dinner at all these different restaurants. And so I just lived

a normal life like everybody did. And then the... How tall are you, Brock? I'm sorry? How tall are you? I am 70 inches, 5'10". Okay, so you were 5'10", 238". Yep. Yeah, at the time of the incident, I was about 235, whatever, plus or minus, who knows. But I worked out all the time.

And 235 was probably on the little heavier side for me. I haven't been that heavy in years, probably forever. But I saw photos of you. You weren't fat. You still had the two stomach muscles at the top never went away. I mean, you seem like the kind of guy that even if you're hungover you still got up and worked out like I did Yeah, oh, yeah, you had your routine. I did I was very routine. I still am very regimented to this day, but even more so so There's a normal dude, you know in every way just live in life

and then I went through this cardiac event, heart failure, and I was open to, you know, a lifestyle change that, man, I had to do a whole 180. And, you know, I've been through a lot of things in my life that were challenging, that were difficult, that really put me, you know, that really tested my limits, but this lifestyle change was probably the hardest thing I had to go through. And that was this anti-inflammatory diet and protocol that I literally immediately started

upon discharge from the hospital around December 3rd of last year and the my cardiologist Very strict you will not consume Alcohol you're not drinking alcohol anymore At least until you get through all of this You're gonna eat like you lived on a farm 200 years ago. Everything is gonna be fresh and organic you know farm to table style foods and You know, that's, and then, uh, Dude, you're so lucky you got a good doctor, dude. Oh, she's, she saved my life.

Yeah, that's awesome. In a lot of ways. And not even, not even the, the diet and the protocols and all this stuff that she put me on, but, um, you know, even a lot of our sessions were almost therapy. She did a great things for me, really, really good things for me. But, but yeah, she put me on this phenomenal, you know, anti inflammatory diet, wrote it all out for me, what I need to avoid, and what I need to consume on on a daily basis. And man, I wiped out my entire

pantry. I threw away almost everything, which was hard to do. And you don't realize how addictive certain foods are until you stop consuming them. You know, the processed sugared foods, the alcohol, you know, the chips and all these things, you don't realize they are insanely addicting. So it was like cold turkey getting rid of all of these toxins or all these terrible foods and having to just adopt a new lifestyle, a new eating habit and retraining my body and my mind to eat

healthy and clean. It was hard. It was not easy. What's typical in your daily diet now? So now, very regimented. I pay attention to how many carbs, fats and proteins that I consume each day. But my morning routine, wake up, I go to the gym and get my hour, my 60 to 80 minute workout in, come home, a couple cups of coffee, and then I have my Doug Brock special, which is two eggs, one

third cup of egg whites, either lean ground turkey or lean ground beef and a couple pieces of bacon, all scrambled up into a little, you know, scramble. So that's my breakfast. And then a protein shake post workout as well. But, and then my lunches in this, like I have zero affiliation with this company, zero affiliation whatsoever, but this is a meal prep company that I go to and I love them, is the Icon Meals. They do the meal prepping and they deliver everything frozen to you and it's super fresh and healthy.

They count all the carbs, the fats, and the proteins and makes it super easy, especially for a busy body like me where cooking isn't always something that I enjoy doing. But so I order those meals and I have those for lunches and dinners. And so those are my three main meals of the day. Hey, why don't you have them for all your meals

just out of curiosity? I really enjoy making my breakfast. Like that is, yeah, like I love making my breakfast. That is my favorite part of the day is, is working out and coming home and having my coffee and breakfast. That's, that just sets, that just sets the tone for the day for me, man. I don't fuck around at all. No.

If it was, so if you Thanksgiving is coming up and you go home and everyone's having a whiskey or a wine or a beer You'll just you just won't no i've uh to this day Uh alcohol free i haven't had a drop of alcohol since the cardiac event dude. Congratulations. Fuck. Yeah Yeah, i've gone from 235 pounds to as of this morning 209 pounds So, you know 25 pounds or so over the last, the first month I lost 30 pounds and then I've kind of fluctuated a little bit.

But man, I have no desire to drink. I could care, I have a bottle of tequila sitting in my kitchen right now that I look at every day and I have absolutely zero desire. Do you still have the smoking hot girlfriend? Oh yeah. She's around. Oh yeah. And what does she say about that? Was she tripping?

Does she, I noticed you went on vacation and she had a drink. You don't care. You're cool with it. Totally fine. Yeah. Yeah. She's a, she's, she is my hugest fan supporter advocate in this whole process. Ironically, you know how like people come into your lives

at weird times and for weird reasons? Well, she has always been a fitness enthusiast, you know, health nut, very aware of what she puts into her body. And so when this all happened to me, immediately she jumped on and she was like, I'm gonna help you. I'm gonna help you. I'm gonna help you. I'm gonna help you. I'm gonna help you. I'm gonna help you. I'm gonna help you. I'm gonna help you. I'm gonna help you. I'm gonna help you. I'm gonna help you. I'm

gonna help you. I'm gonna help you. I'm gonna help you. I'm gonna help you. I'm gonna help you. I'm gonna help you. I'm gonna help you. I'm gonna help you. I'm gonna help you. I'm gonna help you. I'm gonna help you. I'm gonna help you. I'm gonna help you. I'm gonna help you. I'm gonna help you. I'm I was probably an asshole in a lot of ways, but boy she didn't give up and she she's a huge fan of you know Peter McCall on this whole Anti-inflammatory diet. She's a huge fan of all of this stuff and this was a perfect opportunity for her to to you know showcase her her knowledge and

You know her support for this style of living in, as I was going through all of this, you know, she did it herself as well, right? Like she she was on a stricter diet. She monitor or limited her alcohol intake, like she was there with me every step of the way, there's much as she could be. And but you know, like, I'm at a point now where I'm totally comfortable with going out in public, social environments and people will drink and I can… Like for instance, yesterday I went and watched football with a buddy

and he had a couple beers and I drank water the entire time. Like that's okay. Are you sleeping better? I sleep great. I mean I say that with an asterisk. Like I've always had sleep problems always But when I'm asleep, I am lights out Yeah, and I you know, I wake up and I just I just feel so much better when I wake up so much better

You know, I don't feel sluggish I mean, there's some mornings that are slower to start than others, but, uh, but for the most part, like I don't wake up with the brain fog. I don't wake up and just feel like a bag of shit. Like I, I just feel good. I feel good. So you're still in the national, you're still a reserve. Uh, I'm a guard. Yeah. Guard.

Do you have a deployment in your future lined up coming up? So because of all of my medical stuff, I am on a non-deployment status right now and I'm actually waiting for that to get cleared. I just got finalized all my medical stuff back in September. I got the green light from certain medical agencies in the Air Force and so now I'm just waiting for this approval process to come through and hopefully put me back on a deployment status.

No shit, you wanna do that. Oh yeah, so when I went through all this, the Air Force immediately put me into what's called an MEB, a medical evaluation board, rightfully so, and that's what they're supposed to do. And they're supposed to make the determination on whether or not I'm retainable, fit for duty. And, you know, when I entered the MEB process, immediately I was like, my ticket's punched. You know, I'm 40 years old. I've been in 22 years. I'm in a career field that's being downsized and there's just no future hope for me.

Like I'm gonna get MEB medically retired out of the Air Force. This is how my career is gonna end. And I just started owning it. And then in June of 2024, got the notice that they found me to be retained and they were gonna keep me in the Air Force, which was very surprising and shocking to me.

But it was at that moment where I was like, cool, they're gonna, they're gonna let me stay in. I'm gonna do everything in my power to recover and rehab and be and be more fit to fight than I ever have been. I want to continue to serve. I want to, I don't want my career to end on this note. I want my career to end on a positive high end. And I'm gonna, I'm

gonna strive to be, you know, physically fit in all the ways I possibly can. But Brock, is that an algorithm or just there? Is there any personal touch in that? Like, is someone going through the list and they're like, fuck this Brock dude really cares? We're keeping him or is it just like, x's and O's they're crossing out and it was just fortuitous that the Air Force got such a cool like guy like you. I mean, it's crazy.

It's so cool to hear you say that you're excited that they kept you. You know what I mean? Yeah, I, I love, I don't, I don't know what the algorithm is. I don't know how. No one saw your name on a list and like, let's keep Brock. You don't think it was that personalized? No, I, and if that was the case, that would be news to me.

Like, yeah, that would be awesome. Yeah, you know, and I don't know that I know that many people in the service, you know, that way, but, you know, just my luck, I guess, right? But I've always been very passionate in serving. I've absolutely loved wearing the uniform and doing the job. And when I was found to be retained and the ability to stay in, I was like, cool.

Like, let's get back into this. Like, the fight's not over, let's keep going. And I took it very serious when I went through my personal recovery and rehabilitation. Because I graduated cardiac rehab in May, end of May. And when I got the green light that I was retained, I took it very seriously to get into a program to get hit to fight again. And, you know, I want to be here. I want to stay and I want to continue serving. There's no way, you know, that I, there's nothing else that I'd rather be doing.

Who graduates you from the program, that cardiac program? The hospital that I was doing all my medical stuff through. So they have their own cardiac rehabilitation center. And have they looked back at your ticker? Have you done another MRI? And they're like, yep, inflammation is gone. When I went to Wright-Patterson back in September, I had to go to what's called ACS. And I believe that stands for aeronautical consultation services or something like that. But that's basically where all of the Air Force's flyers, all the pilots and flying physicals have to go through to get their flying physicals done. So even though I'm a ground-based controller, even though I'm a ground dude in the Air Force, I still require a flying physical. So I had to go through this process with ACS to get my flying physical updated. Now this included meeting with an Air Force cardiologist and some other nurse practitioners. They put me on a heart rate monitor.

They gave me another EKG. They did an ultrasound or an echocardiogram, and then they gave me a stress test. So I spent a week out there doing all of these events just so that they could first hand see how I'm doing with my cardiac or post-cardiac event. And man, humbly, of course, I'm obviously biased, but I blew that fucking thing out of the water I showed up and and they were like they're like dude Your heart's in great shape man in all of the ways you're an animal your phenomenal shape So whatever you're doing keep doing it. I was like Roger that you got it. Hey dude, so the story is

Not quite a year, 11 months ago... You felt some pressure in your chest. Didn't feel so good. Thank God you came across a friend you respected. You went in, had your shit checked out. They're like, dude, right away they're like, something's wrong. They shuttle you around to a couple different hospitals. You spend four days in the hospital and they're like dude right away they're like something's wrong they shuttle you around a couple different hospitals you spend four days in the hospital and they're like dude you're having some sort of fucking heart attack and your heart's all puffy and shit inside and out

they let you out and you are surrounded by a good doctor and a fucking amazing uh partner and she sorry i shouldn't use that word partner who loves you and um and she, sorry, I shouldn't use that word partner. Who loves you. And, um, and she, and you change your lifestyle protocol, which you were already probably a one percenter. You were probably already in the top 1% of, you know, fit and healthy people in this country, but you tweak it down even further and eliminate some garbage from your diet and keep exercising and you're better. I mean is that the cliff notes? That's straight up. It's clip notes like they didn't do that. You didn't have to like get like plaque scraped

You said you were clean that you you got off your medication. Are they tripping? Not as not nearly as much as I thought that they would be like I Mean, you don't hear these stories. How'd you get better fucking I eat bacon and eggs and in meat I Get I get asked all the time because you know dudes in the unit or they see it they're like you look fitter you look healthier like what's going on and I'm like straight up a hundred percent I Attribute or contribute that to my diet. Oh,'s going on? And I'm like straight up 100%. I attribute or contribute that to my diet. Oh, and by the way, I'm not drinking alcohol. Like, right. You know, like, I had an old buddy of mine used to tell me a long time ago, abs are made

in the kitchen. And he ain't wrong. 100%. So, you know, yeah, I obviously I still work out, I have to have to be fit to fight I have to do my job I have to perform. But but diet man like there's so much to people are constantly consuming all of this shit that is processed and off the street, you know, from these fast food restaurants and they shop in the center aisles of the grocery stores. And they wonder why they feel sluggish and they wonder why they can't get the six pack or they wonder why the runtime sucks or they have no motivation and you know I like I don't know it could be a number of things but I'll tell you that

the cleaner that I started eating the better I started feeling every fucking day every day and that and I'm like this is a lifestyle that I'm going to continue to live because I've Legitimately seen the change in difference. Yeah What a great story dude. Hey, thanks. Thanks for coming on and sharing all that. It's it's such a good story Yeah, it's such a good story and Staying touch with me if anything develops. I'm very curious. Do you know who Dale Saran is? Find a chance. Do you know that name? Why do I? Have to see this more Facial recognition. I'm really bad with names. I'll be honest. He he was in the Air Force

and he was a Jag and He brought the and then he ended up becoming the general counsel for CrossFit Inc. He's very good friends with Greg Glassman Okay, and then he ended up doing the anthrax case against the United States Air Force For giving the guys the anthrax vaccine and now he's part of the the largest lawsuit against the US military digging into this stuff basically helping you know dedicated pilots who fucking got the boot get their shit straightened out but um if you'd like to be put in touch with them let me know he is a he's such a cool guy he's so fun to interact with yeah i'm not suggesting by any chance a lawsuit but just insights and stories and he might just he's just a really cool person.

Yeah, right. I mean, I, I'm, I'm all for sharing the story and getting people to I don't know, maybe reflect a little bit. But like, also, you took personal accountability and responsibility. What's crazy is, is you, there's no victim coming off of you. It's just, it's just, you just state the facts. Yeah. And then you, you're, and instead of sitting there, there's no poor me and you, which is fucking dope to hear your version of the story. You know what I mean?

Yeah, I appreciate that. That means a lot actually, like more than you can imagine. I, uh, but this, this was a hundred percent on me. Like nobody else was going to help me recover. I was going to make myself recover, right? And there was protocol that my cardiologist put me on. But at the end of the day, it was up to me to make this change, to make this decision. And thank God for the love and support of close family, friends, and my girlfriend.

And this is where I'm at. All right. Well, stay in touch. Good to meet you. Where's home? close family friends and my girlfriend and this is where I'm at. So. All right, well, stay in touch. Good to meet you. Where's home home for you? I currently reside in Boise, Idaho. Okay, you ended up somewhere good. All right. Man, this place is great, but is it changing?

Yeah. Yeah. All right, dude. Thank you so much. Good luck. I'm going to peruse the your account doubt dope outdoor packs. That's awesome that you have that. Yeah, thanks, man. I appreciate you bring me on your show and let me tell my story and hopefully at least one person took something from it. But you know, all we can do is continue

advocating for for ourselves and each other and see what happens so Hey a lot of people Were I know this term is overused now Gaslit and so from 2020 to 2022 especially those there were people who were isolated who knew that they were on to something But they were considered crazy or conspiracy theorists or whatever. And so now as we come out of this to hear stories of people who legitimately took the journey, it's so important to people because literally I've had the I've had so many people from this podcast tell me because I honker down I was like, fuck you, you ain't touching me or my kids from the beginning. There's no fucking way someone's

putting drugs in me or my kids. And, and people were like, Holy shit, I live in a town where I'm the only person who thinks that way. And they think I'm fucking crazy. And I start to wonder if I'm crazy. So just hearing your story, and just how fucking sober you tell your story. And also you're still your commitment to the fucking United States and the military and your job and your passion. It's it it's um it's better than me as a fucking lunatic parent out here screaming you know what i mean and they're like oh that guy sevon's a lunatic so it's very great to get your uh rendition of the story yeah right on well thanks again for having me on here and uh yeah i look forward to staying in touch and seeing how things develop awesome dude all right take care brother. I'm an zero chow

Douglas Brock Wow, okay haven't said it in a while take that dude as a neighbor. What a great neighbor that guy would be I Got so many boogers last couple days I've been I've been using the blower and just blowing. There's so much debris on the ground around my house It's been really windy here last couple days shit everywhere. I Think I've snorted a fucking ton of dust Katie he was super cool. Yeah, he was cool, right? Patrick Clark, thank you for your service. Yeah, Tyler, he's not a little bitch. No, no little bitch in him at all.

9 a.m. All right, I'm gonna take a pee break. I'll be right back. Um, God, we need to eventually we're going to load up tons and tons. Two people. Thank God for, uh, Susan Brett. They're going through all the affiliate videos. Don't worry. We're still going to give away the five grand and the three grand and the two grand or one grand or whatever that is for the contest winners. They're good. They're pouring through them. There's so many. I guess a Susan did a show or two shows where he just watched the videos, which is awesome. Um, but we'll be, uh, we'll be getting through those and then I'm going to start loading them up here

in this software I use so I can start showing them to you guys just periodically. So you're not seeing the same five I'm over and over. All right. I will see you guys in a minute. There's no magic here to getting you out of that mindset of focusing on how you look, but an affiliate is in my opinion by far the best place to help you with that shift. Before starting at the gym, I was somebody who just always wanted to be smaller, and I always wanted to look a certain way,

and I was never, never satisfied with my body. All my goals were focused around, all of my exercise was like how do I get as small as possible and so I was like super unhealthy. I wasn't eating and all sorts of stuff. Unfortunately, when I had gotten really bad, Megan had me join here. So it was very quickly that I was like okay well if I want to like lift with all of these other girls and if I want to like keep up with them and if I want to be strong and all those things like I like that this has this has to switch it was like within six months I like realized that

switch where it was like all the sudden on my Instagram feed instead of like tiny little people I had like these strong, beautiful, capable women that could lift hundreds of pounds. So this for me has been a whole mindset shift of like, I now appreciate my body for what it can do, not what it looks like. In here, we don't care what you look like as long as you're hitting what you want to achieve. what you look like as long as you're hitting what you want to achieve. The two brain, two brain business. Oh, we're having Chris Cooper back on here. November 11th. Hey babe. Hey, could you bring me a FID aid? What? Get you a FID aid? Yeah. Can you bring me one? Hey, how are we on time this morning? Is everything good? Yeah.

Um, McKenna is not coming today. She's coming tomorrow. Oh, okay. Are you going to train soon or? Oh. I haven't made any plans. It says I'm running out to the store to get eggs and butter. That was like at 730. Oh, alright. They've eaten, they're all kind of stuffy.

Oh, okay. Are they, are they, are they done with their schoolwork? No. Okay. I'll be in soon. Okay. Okay. You'll bring me a FID aid?

I'm bringing you, yeah, I'm bringing it now. Okay, bye. Bye. I never got my FID aids. Were you supposed to get them? I think, I guess I could ask Susie what's going on with that? I wonder I wonder what happened. I think a handful of people didn't get their fit aids. I think some of the Someone said something to Susie. Oh, don't worry. You don't have here. Can I give you this babe?

You don't have to give us a fitted. Can you do you have anything else you can send us? Like like we just got like a room full of shit to give away me and Adam Adam who? Fidei doesn't sponsor anymore Yeah, but they're cool that if that guy the guy who the CEO over there that Aaron dudes cool as shit If like if we told them like hey this person didn't get it. He would send it If like if we told them like hey this person didn't get it they he would send it Hey, there's a hole in there's a hole in the fence over there I Got to fix the fence

How come we never heard of Lucas Parker diddling a bunch of chicks at his gym, I don't even know if it's true I Don't know if it's true. I never got my fit aids Oh, yeah, I didn't get my fit aids either I'll text you my address heavy Are you guys serious? Don't fuck with me. If you didn't get your fit aids, I'll help you get them I'll try to get them. I mean they would love to give them those dudes are cool over there So they'll they'll they'll hook it up. I wanted to look into something. I didn't I wanted to look into it before I got you guys on the show but I didn't so we can do it together we can do a little research to research together. What's going on with Elon? So are they coming after him? So it says Musk here. Let me pull the article up.

It sounds like the Dems are flipping out over something he's doing. He's giving away his money and people are getting pissed. Oh, no wonder David Weed likes Fidate so much. He says it tastes like ass. No wonder you love it. You fucking sick bastard. You ass eater. You ass. So if you're an ass eater, FidAid. You know my boys do Jiu-Jitsu and like they get in these fucking north-south positions and they sit on the other guy's face.

Like if they sit on each other's face, they always say they look and I gave you pink eye gave you pink eye they always say that gave you pink eye must $1 million a day to swing states voters deeply concerning Musk $1 million a day to swing state states voters deeply concerning from someone named Kayla Epstein all right Kayla tech. Elon Musk has said he will give away one million dollars a day To a registered voter in key swing states until u.s presidential u.s presidential election on november 5th. So here's the thing I think that's not true So here's the thing So he okay, and we're gonna get to the next sentence

I knew that there was some fucking lying from the left on this the winner will be chosen at random from those who sign a pro-us Constitution petition So, how can the first sentence be tech billionaire Elon Musk has said he will give away one million a day to a registered voter in key swing states? To the winner will be chosen at random from those who signed a pro-constitution petition. Those are two different things. The first lottery style check was given away. So where do they? Is it both? Like this doesn't even make sense.

Election law expert. Stop reading there. Federal law states that anyone who pays off or offers or accepts payment either for registration to vote or for voting faces potential $10,000 fine. Well which one is it? Is he offering the money to registered? First of all, he's not offering them to be to wait let me see uh kind of federal law states that anyone who pays or offers to pay

or accept payment either for registration to vote or for voting he's not doing either even if you believe the first sentence, he's not asking them to register. He's not paying them to register to vote. He would be paying them if they were already registered and there was nothing they didn't say anything about that. But then is it if you sign a pro-U.S. Constitution petition or is it if you're registered to vote? Can I just get the registration list?

Is that public information and just start giving away fucking money to people on the list? Yeah, it's a prize to, yeah, petition, not paying voters. It doesn't say who they have to vote for, but here's the thing. The caveat or the nuance or the detail is I can't say, hey, if you go register right now, I guess I'm taking this article for what it says. It would be me saying, hey, I'll give you $100 if you go register to vote, which is different than me looking at a voter registration list and being like,

Hey, I'm going to just start picking names off of here and giving a hundred dollars. That doesn't sound like that's illegal. But the thing is, is he's not doing either. This article makes no sense. How could someone write this article and write these two sentences that just conflate ideas? Let me read it to you one more time. Tech billionaire Elon Musk has said he will give away one million dollars a day to a registered voter in key swing states.

But then the winner will be chosen at random from those who sign a pro-constitution petition. Like, what if I'm not registered but I signed, like this makes no fucking sense fuck this article fuck the BBC Let me find another article I'll take the $10,000 fine to get the million. It's a prize. Yeah, but a massive throbbing election throbbing election. Seve, first miss you. First what? First miss me? Hi, good to see you. Hi Lisa. Miss Gall. Good to see you. I get them every month from this... oh wait. Second, you can get voter lists and history from the state. It's public. I

get them every month from the state of Florida. Oh that's article, okay. This article is likely in her 20s and clueless. Michigan has 500,000 more registered voters than people who are eligible to vote. I was, I saw that, I went to the Department of Justice site. It's funny. Obviously, that's a government site and they were accusing governors of pulling Voters off of registration lists But never mentioning they were pulling Non-citizens they were non-citizens. They were pulling off the lists. This is on our own government website

It's fucking crazy. We have some fucking lunatics who work for the government. Conspiracy theories and one million dollars. Oh, let's check what the Guardian says. Let's see what the Guardian says. Excuse me, I have to sniffle. I don't know what's happened here to the weather. My nose is so dry, shit's blowing around everywhere. Musk's latest ploy to assist Trump to win the US election

has been to give away $1 million every day to a member of the public. Okay, a member of the public. What other members are there? Standing before a large US flag, which spanned the breadth of a vast stage, this kind of energy lights a fire in my soul. His love and the one million of course was contingent on them doing exactly as Musk wanted,

signing a petition tied to his political action committee PAC, which is dedicated to sending Donald Trump back to the White House. Uh oh. The spectacle was both surreal and potentially illegal, but no one here, not least Musk himself, seemed to care in the slightest. The stunt is prohibited and akin to buying votes. That makes no sense. In the view of some experts, it violates federal law preventing payments for registering to vote. Once again, we don't. MuskamericaPAC did not respond to a list of questions from the Guardian.

This one doesn't say anything. Like, what do you have to do? I want to sign. Where do I sign the thing to be... I want to be eligible for the million find out what you have to do. Where's an article that just says, should I just type in, how do you win the million? I'm a tech partner on a conservative site. I handle all the tech marketing. We use the data for marketing research, news stories. The data is updated every month. Supporting a show I watch every day is why I have that and it's more like nine months almost. I wish I knew what you were referencing.

Dan Guerrero, Recovery Meth Addict. Subscribe to the Sevant Podcast for six months to get a crown as super gay. Christian Kettler. Hey, how about fuck you, dude? How about fuck you, Dan? How about, how about, hey, hey, those of you who fucking support the show, thank you very much for doing it, because I'm a free-loading piece of shit who fucking comes here every morning and trolls like a fucking cunt. How about using some of that money that you used to buy meth with to fucking support the fucking show. I get up every fucking morning at 6am and hang out with you guys at 7am and it's fucking

awesome. How about you just fucking contribute and shut the fuck up. Just the software alone to go live every morning is fucking $700 a year. Punk ass bitch. Okay, where was I? Um... And that's just for the fucking software. That's it. Not for- not for the electricity for my beauty lights. In my air cleaner, in my fucking dehumidifier so I don't die in this moldy fucking cabin I'm in. You fucking slut. Dan, Bo Keating, hi for the software to go live, thank you.

Mike McCasky, new member. Oh Dan, this is working, I'm glad. There's gotta be an open source version of Sevi. Dan, this was awesome. Dan and I planned this earlier. Dan called me and he's like, hey dude, I'm going to come after you and then you fight back

and we'll get people to throw in money. This is awesome. There's a third video keeping it real. You made a third video. He sold me. Google America, America pack. Okay, thank you. Let me see There's Reuters Okay, here we go

Let me see this is this is the top one I'm not that you can trust any maybe I should go to page 10 to find the truth on Google. Did I share the page? I tried to share the page. Oh, here we go. Elon Musk election promise of 1 million daily giveaway sparks call for probe. Musk on Saturday gave a million dollar,

oh, Sunday called for a law enforcement to investigate billionaire Elon Musk for his promise at a weekend pro-Trump rally to give away a million dollars each day until election day. Musk on Saturday gave a one million dollar check to an attendee at the rally in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, which was hosted by, hosted by America PAC, a political action group. ...voters in Pennsylvania is deeply concerning. It's something that law enforcement could take a look at. Could take a look at. take a look at. Could take a look at. The money is the latest example of Musk using his extraordinary wealth to influence the tightly contested presidential race. Jesus Christ, meanwhile Kamala has already raised

more than a billion dollars. And she's out, the dems, 8 of the 10 fucking richest people in the country are dems. Musk is promising to give away his money. Musk is promising to give away his money. Musk is promising to give away his money. Musk is promising to give away his money. Musk is promising to give away his money. Musk is promising to give away his money. Musk is promising to give away his money.

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How are you? Thanks. I really like the, I really liked Brock I really like Brock He gave me hope for the US military Yeah, have you ever heard a show where we have Dale Saran on? He's going to end up getting billions of dollars from the US government, I bet. Wow. Wow. Wow, wow, wow.

That doesn't surprise me, by the way. That doesn't surprise me. I'm pretty sure, I'm pretty sure Matt's pretty conservative, even though his family has Canadian origins, but I don't think Matt got the vaccine or anything like that. Oh, lost you. All right. I didn't watch the Ninganu fight. I was watching UFC but I heard about it. I heard that he was in trouble. He got put in a triangle and then knocked the guy out. Excuse me. How about now? Everything's good now, right? Dan Guerrero.

Thank you. Dan, you live in Mexico? I didn't know Mexico is home for you. Yes, the plan worked. Thank you. That's one dollar. Thank you. That's $1. I'm seeing lights flash here and shit. If I go down again, let me know. No, it still sounds bad. Really? Oh, you're right.

You're right. You're right. You're right Thank you. That's someone's paying attention better. There we go Mas bueno Oh Yeah, Hernandez did look good that reminds me I need to invite him on the show that's a fucking great Hernandez looked amazing Didn't he? Thank you. I need to invite him on the show. God. That would be great What a savage dude. I'm so curious to see What he looks like against the number one contender

What's his What's oh, yeah, yeah here he is It was the Anthony Hernandez, right Anthony I'd love to have you on my podcast Yeah, thank you. Yeah, that was amazing. Dude, Michael Perera is a fucking man child. No, it's still shitty. No, no, it's good. It's perfect. Now it's perfect. I think he's two fights away from a shot at either Strickland or Duplissy. Wow. Yeah, he was pretty amazing.

He was pretty amazing. And I'm so excited about this week's fights. Saturday's fights. Thank you everyone who tried to call me. And let me know my shit's down. Oh, yes, you can share with her. Thank you How about Magawa on the Kil Taylor show I was crazy. I I was crazy. I hope Johnny Whittaker beats Com's Out this weekend.

I hope so. I really hope so. I really, really, really, really hope so. What were we doing? We were doing like, we're trying to figure out what's going on with Elon. We're not gonna figure it out. Oh here we go. Musk is promising to give 1 million dollars each day to someone who signs his online petition which reads the First and Second Amendment

guarantee freedom of speech and the right to bear arms. By signing below, I'm pledging my support for the First and Second Amendments. That's it. To be eligible for the one million, petitioners must sign, must be a registered voter, and live in one of the seven swing states.

Oh, well that's well said, okay. Well, that's well said. Okay. The petition also offers $100 to each registered Pennsylvania voter who signs and $100 for referring a registered Pennsylvania voter. The petition also offers $100 to register and $100 for referring a register. It is a federal crime to pay people with the intention of inducing or rewarding them to cast a vote or to get registered. It is an offense punishable by prison time. The prohibition covers not only monetary expenditures, but also, well, then he is breaking the law. monetary expenditures, but also well then he is breaking the law. It is a federal crime to pay people with the intention of inducing or rewarding them

to cast a vote that he's not doing but or to get registered. You can't pay people to register to vote. Well, that's what he's doing. The petition also offers $100 to each registered Pennsylvanian or a hundred dollars for referring this is the part that that's kind of weird i guess according to law Pennsylvania who signs and one hundred dollars for referring a registered Pennsylvania vote oh no no to sign to sign the petition not to register to vote. The petition also offers $100 to each registered Pennsylvania voter who signs. So if you sign this petition that says you support the First and Second Amendments, you get $100 and then you get entered into a $1 million prize. And then if you refer someone to sign the petition, you also get a hundred bucks.

But you also have to be a registered voter to win the money, which I guess you could say induces people to register. induces people to register. I guess that's the nuance there. You could say that that induces them, inducing. Inducing? Being paid to sign something or vote is kind of gross. Being paid to sign something? I don't know. People are paid to sign shit all the time. I

Designed my contract with FID aid before they'd pay me I was paid to sign an NDA once. Kate Chapman, don't you have to be registered by a certain day to vote in upcoming elections? Would this be after that time so people would already have to be registered? Oh, that's interesting. I wonder when the last day. When is the last day to register to vote? Registration deadlines in person voting, voting deadlines. In California, it sends ballots to actively registered voters. like when who can can register to vote? Dates and deadlines to register has to be postmarked by October 21st.

For registration. Wow. That's late. Californians must be registered to vote at least 15 days before election day for this date and other important election deadlines go to blah blah blah. My last affiliate refused to give me a final paycheck unless I signed an ND a NDA when they fired me I Think when When Rosa bought the company I think like I'm just making this up like I don't know if the details of this are right but there was something like

Everyone if you sign something when he started working there you got like, everyone, if you sign something, when he started working there, you got like $10,000. And I didn't read it, but it was something, it was probably something, I didn't even read it. I don't know what it was, but I signed it and got the money. I don't know what it was, but everyone got it. And then, and then, and then, and then when they, when they let you go to get your severance package You got to sign something too. It's like long. I didn't read any of that shit Seve did you apply for the CrossFit Games project manager job? No, I think all all those jobs anything project managers in project

What's the other word project managers and project there's another one what's the other one? Those people were all the losers When I worked at CrossFit, we didn't start getting those kind of people until like 2016 or 17. That was a huge mistake All those people were losers All project managers and there's another word project directors They were all losers They all they did was um

Confuse and Mess shit up and add noise to the system. They were just losers. They're basically people who aren't capable of anything. They're actually doing anything. And so they should really give them a different title. Those titles have been completely ruined for me. Whenever I see those titles, those are just cogs in the wheel.

What was the other one? There's another one. Is it project director and project manager? Whatever they were, they were just all fuck. I felt sorry for those people. They were just losers. I never understood what they were. I would have them, I had some like in my department. And I just, I just, I had some that worked for me, that was the operations officer put them into play. But I just, I just gave them like, tasks and change their name. like to either producer supervising producer or project managers that's what I feel like everyone like at at Apple or Google or Facebook I think feel like they're all just loser project managers and project directors they've

they have no value they're they're horrible those people are just basically fighting they're like HR those people are just basically fighting, they're like HR, those people are just fighting to keep relevancy in the workplace. That's all they do. They would, the more complicated and fucked up shit is, the better it is for them. Because they like, they want shit to just be fucked up so that they stay relevant. That's like the same with HR departments, people, people, people, people, directors, chief people, officers, they just can't wait for there to be a fight so that they become

relevant. Like if you work at a, if you worked at HQ and Lazar died, died, and you were in the people's department or HR department, it's a boon for you. That's like just so much great work for you. So much shit you have to do. Like manage people's stress and people being upset and, and negativity. They just they thrive in that shit. You have a diversity department? Holy shit. Anyway, that'll be interesting to see what happens to with all that Musk stuff. There's an argument that the left makes against Donald Trump. And again, just trying to be objective, the argument is that this man's a dictator. Donald Trump's many things, but dictator, I'm like, wow.

Dictator, I'm a big fan of history. Hitler, dictator. Present-day Kim Jong-un, dictator. The only commonality Donald Trump shares truly with Kim Jong-un and Hitler is that the three of them should sue super cuts. That's it. By the way, by the way, dictators, let me tell you something about dictators, okay? Dictators murder with no consequences. Vladimir Putin murdered his political By the way, by the way, dictators, let me tell you something about dictators, okay? Dictators murder with no consequences. Vladimir Putin murdered his political adversary and ran unopposed. Kim Jong-un murdered his own uncle to prevent a coup d'etat.

Donald Trump is no Kim Jong-un. Donald Trump is no Vladimir Putin. In fact, Donald Trump is not even a Clinton. You know, there's an argument that the. I will tell you, I was surprised at the reaction of this joke, given this was in California. Do I follow this guy? Steve Burr, but burn live burn life How about Trump at McDonald's that was crazy that was cool. I was on the DEI committee for the PAC 12. It was so fun.

Wow. I think she's Barry McAugner. I think she's Barry McAugner. I think she's being facetious Troy you 18 us Section 957 doesn't mention registering there might be some other code Wow look at that. What's this? Giant- oh, this one's great. Look at this. Look at this. This is fucking nuts. This is the kind of shit that fucking Democrats unfortunately believe. Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris tells her rally audience that if Jimmy Carter can vote early, so can they.

Jimmy Carter recently accomplished his goal voting for Kamala after early voting opened in Georgia. Carter wasn't looking forward to his 100th birthday, but was instead fighting to stay alive for Kamala Harris, Carter's son said. He said he didn't care about that. It's just a birthday. He said he cared about voting for Kamala. Carter's son said, according to the Washington Post, the footage below was a recent, was at a recent event in Georgia to celebrate Carter's birthday. Look at him. He's just fucking, his mouth is just wide open and he's just laying back. He he. This is nuts.

So look, if Jimmy Carter can vote early, you can too. So look, if Jimmy Carter can vote early, you can too. Look at the bookends of look at this chick. Is this a chick or a dude, this thing with a mohawk on the left and This thing on the right god. Those are there's some fucking obese people How did they get them up there in the stands behind her? Yeah, Jimmy Carter looks like a corpse Hey, that's Biden in fucking six months. I watched this whole thing last night.

I can't believe I watched all of this. By the way, I finished season two of Dexter. I started season three. This is crazy. Here we go. I want to speak to dads specifically, and I speak about father son relationships. America is one of the only cultures where American boys don't have a right of passage. They're not called up. And it's not just about calling a boy up.

It's calling him up according to the ways of God to go face giants, preparing him to say, you will face giants. You are commissioned. You're called and commissioned for a time such as this. What would happen in this culture if every single 12 year old boy was taught, trained, discipled to defend all women, all women their age, as if they know they're going to marry one of them. As if they know that if I violate a woman woman she's going to become someone else's wife and it's going to break that guy because she's going to be broken. So I want someone else to defend the girl that's going to marry me as a 12 year old boy. I want them to think and I've got

to defend all women because here's the cycle. If boys don't defend girls, then girls are raised with an image that boys are weak. Does anyone want to fight about this so far? I'm ready to fuck someone up if someone wants to fight about this. Is someone triggered? Is there someone out there like girls don't need defending anyone? Anyone? And those girls who believe boys are weak, who believes they need to do it themselves, they become mothers.

And you know what they do? They raise weak young men because a boy clings to his mother for the first number of years, and then he goes to his father and that transition from the mother To the father is a transition of saying your mom nurtured you your mom protected you Of course the dads do it too, but the primary role your mom fed you literally Fed you from her body You came from her womb. She's feeding you. She's changing your diaper. She's nurturing you and Then there's a handover now. Dad, go make him a man.

But what the moms do in those formative years is they raise young weaklings because they don't respect the role of a man. They don't value the role. He's not saying all women. You understand that? Of a man and then when they pass that boy on to the father, they don't say now go make him a man. Now go make him a defender of virtue, a defender of innocence. They want to mommy him until he's 40 years old and he never becomes a man. And so then that man raises a weak boy that doesn't defend girls and the cycle is vicious. To have strong men, you start with women. You defend women, you honor women, you protect women, you protect their virtue, you elevate women, you give you protect women you protect their virtue you elevate women you give them opportunity You support their dreams and their hopes you say there is no limit to what you can do

But you train the young girls. This is what a strong man looks like one day you've got to raise one of these and then you got to hand him over to his father and father has to go make him a man a him over to his father and father has to go make him a man. A guy that says if I die I die but I defend my family, I defend my flag, I defend my country, most of all I defend the word of God. I represent Jesus Christ. I speak boldly. I don't ask permission. Truth is the food that I eat ask permission. Truth is the food that I eat, so it's what I speak. Our men are weak because we don't make them strong when they're young to defend women and in women raise weak boys. This is a caution for all dads. Get your boys to defend and protect girls and tell your girls they don't settle for a guy that does not defend and protect

women and then women go train your girls how to raise strong young men and then hand them over to their fathers to make them men. This is vital in our culture right now. There's some great food for thought in there, man. in our culture right now. There's some great food for thought in there, ma'am. There's some great food for thought in there. Great food for thought. All right, guys. I'll see you later.

Great show. Thanks Douglas Brock for coming on. Thanks for tolerating my technical errors. Okay, bye.