The Sevan Podcast - Dr. Lance | GROW Your HOG | Xersizer

Episode Date: November 20, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:52 advisor free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. Bam, we're live. Good morning. Hell of a show this morning. Hell of a show. Hell of a show. Hell of a show. Hell of a show.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Hell of a show. Oy. I was thinking today, uh, lance, um, Is coming on in my head I just keep calling him, uh lance the dick doctor And then I was realizing like i'm confusing, um, i'm conflating dick doctor with sex doctor when I think of all the questions I want to ask him So I have to I guess I have to warn them ahead of time that there's going to be so many questions and I have it all conflated and shit.
Starting point is 00:01:51 And you know, Ooh, you know, when you order something and you put in the wrong address and then like on Amazon or just wherever online, and then right away you have to email the people and be like, hey, I need the address changed. I had to do that last night. And I was concerned because it said when I sent the email said it could take up to two days to get back to me. And I was ordered, it was a big order. It was like, it was like over $5,000 worth of stuff to new audio gear, tripods, things like that to film at Greg's house in January.
Starting point is 00:02:27 And I was like, oh my God. And I accidentally sent it to the vacation home that Sarah Cox lets me stay at in Newport. I was like, oh my God, what if all this gear shows up there? I was stressed out. But anyway, I got an email this morning right away from B&H in New York. Very appreciative of that. All right, Lance is coming on, the Dick Doctor. I wonder if he watches, I wonder if he's ever, I mean, I wonder if he's ever seen this show.
Starting point is 00:02:55 I wonder if he knows the squirreliness, the squirreliness of the show. Uh, I asked Em on KillTaylor last week, if people are being arrested in the UK for stuff they posted on social media. And she said, no. Whoa, excuse me. And, uh, I was, um, she said no, but a ton of you sent me DM saying that's horseshit. Tons of people are being arrested.
Starting point is 00:03:32 So I appreciate the, the clarity on it. I suspected she just didn't know. I suspected she just didn't run in those circles. You don't, you don't realize, You don't realize that there was so much censorship and that our freedoms were being taken away unless you bumped up against them. That's the thing. If you're a 17 year old who just hangs out
Starting point is 00:03:55 and smokes weed and service all day, maybe you didn't even notice it. Maybe if you don't have any thoughts, if you're just completely trapped in the matrix, if you're not doing anything outside of what the man wants you to do, then I think that's what's happening. I think a lot of people just didn't notice it. I think a lot of people still don't notice it.
Starting point is 00:04:13 If you're just a consumer of media and you don't create media, or if you don't create content, or if you're not putting stuff out there, if you're not bringing stuff to market in this world, if you're not an entrepreneur, you don't push up against it. And you don't realize all the boundaries and all the rules that we're encapsulated in. But the second you do start doing that, you're like, ooh. I mean, if somebody did have a cure for cancer, you can't just bring it to market.
Starting point is 00:04:43 The forces against you, I mean to protect you are massive. There's so much to protect us that it filters out the truth a lot. Start hog talk with Maddie's video. What's Maddie's video? I don't even know Maddie's video. I don't even know Maddie's video. If you spent less time on the internet, you weren't censored. That's almost completely outside the Matrix. Maybe, but what about the Amish? They were, they were, they pushed up against the Matrix and they're never on the internet.
Starting point is 00:05:22 They don't even use electricity But that's I mean that's how And you have to remember that regardless of whether you're on the internet or off the internet the People trying to bring things to market and then the people controlling that and by bring things to market I mean ideas products anything if that's being controlled and you're in Even if you're not in that, it's going to affect you sooner or later. It's coming. Next thing you know, you're going to want to try to buy a car with a combustion engine and all that's going to be available
Starting point is 00:05:57 is electric cars. That's no good. Kiltailor sounds like in December, the prize money is going to double. I wonder how that's going to affect is gonna double I wonder how that's gonna affect the show I wonder how that's gonna affect the contestants. I wonder how it's gonna affect the workouts We might even do five shows in December we might even do a Christmas show two in one week Maddie did a cold water plunge for Regen. It's better than Brooke's video. I don't know who Maddie is. I barely know what a cold plunge is. I don't know what Regen is and I have no idea who Brooke is. So there. Take that for trying to help me understand and then and then not understanding. So
Starting point is 00:06:47 there's that. How cool is two brain business giving us money to run a affiliate video contest? It's nuts. Put your money where your mouth is. I started CrossFit a year ago because I almost had a heart attack and while I was laying in that bed something just clicked in my head and like whatever I'm doing was not working anymore. I came in wearing 300 pounds, now I weigh 220, I'm down 80 pounds.
Starting point is 00:07:29 I remember it was such a nerve wreck for me, you know, thinking I'm not gonna be able to keep up with these guys. Even with the women, I was scared I wasn't gonna be able to keep up with them. And what really kept me going was the community we have here. And to me it meant a lot.
Starting point is 00:07:42 It helps me keep going and get to that goal that I'm trying to reach. I'm so glad I have everyone and like encouraging me every now and then even with the simple keep going. Back in May I did my first CrossFit competition ever. I didn't think I was ever capable of doing something like that and I did it. I completed it. I want to keep doing this, probably for the rest of my life. CrossFit is creating a better future for me. Yo!
Starting point is 00:08:24 Lance, what's up? Good morning. Hey, what's up, Savon? How are you? I'm awesome. Living the dream. Thanks. Good to see you. Hey, um, I have something I need to confess to you.
Starting point is 00:08:38 What's that? Um, I know you, I don't know exactly what kind of Caregiver you are but I definitely conflate you with a sex expert So I apologize for the questions that switch out of your lane is anything penis related seems like it's sex related to me So I apologize if there's any questions that are out of your Expertise Let you know if it is out of my out of my scope to talk about. Okay, I appreciate it. Hey, have you ever watched this show?
Starting point is 00:09:11 Um, actually prior to you having me on last time, I had never heard of it. So, but I have watched a little bit since then, but prior to that, I didn't know you. Okay. And I feel very comfortable just talking to you about anything because, um, well, cause that's the nature of the show. But also I just feel like if you're a penis guy, um, like a penis expert, you're capable of just talking about anything. I think so.
Starting point is 00:09:39 I mean, I talk about this stuff literally all day long, so it's nothing that I'm shy to talk about by any means. Yeah, like there's like the, once you're talking about penis for a living and tending to the penis, it feels like the boundaries, your boundaries have to be expounded. You know what I mean? Like you're.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Yeah. I mean, I'm a pretty open book when it comes to my job. You, pelvic health physical therapist. So tell me what that is again. So my, my back, my background, my degree is in physical therapy. I have a doctorate in physical therapy and after physical therapy school, I decided to further my career into pelvic health. And so it's a bunch of extra certification classes and I'm a physical therapist and I'm a physical therapist. school, I decided to further my career into pelvic health. And so it's a bunch of extra certification classes that you have to take.
Starting point is 00:10:31 And they're done over the course of several months. And at the end of it, you can take an exam to officially become a certified pelvic health physical therapist. But, um, so after I graduated, I went on and did all of that coursework. And now I primarily have a practice here in Atlanta. It's a physical therapy practice, but most of my most of my patient caseload consists of pelvic
Starting point is 00:10:58 or patients with pelvic floor disorders. And most of those patients being men. And up until the last time you were on, I didn't even know men had pelvic. Pelvic, I mean, the pelvis is, what is the pelvis? Is it that bone? Is it, I think of the pelvis and the hip, are those interchangeable, those words?
Starting point is 00:11:18 Kind of, but not really. If you wanna be technical. The pelvis is technically made up of three bones that connect the spine to the lower, to the legs, to the femurs. And so those three bones make up this, this girdle, if you will, that helps support the upper and lower halves. Okay. So it's kind of, it facilitates the interaction between the
Starting point is 00:11:46 torso and the legs. Correct. I could think about that. Yeah. For me, it's like, it's like that, that joint in there. I wanted to ask, I, a lot of times, especially, you know, when I'm talking to people that have never heard about what I do or what a pelvis or pelvic floor is, I find that pictures
Starting point is 00:12:04 and diagrams are pretty helpful. And there's an app that I have that I use whenever I'm explaining this stuff. Yeah. Would it be, can I at some point share my screen? I would love that. Dude, I would love that. Absolutely. Okay. Let me get it pulled up and then. Or you could tell me whatever, if it's easier, I can do it for you. If it's easier for you, you can do it, whatever you want.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Well, it's a, it's a, a paid app that you have to have a subscription for and okay it's a medical app that I use almost every day, but It is pretty helpful Whenever it comes to explaining everything But I've got it pulled up so you just let me know whenever you want me to yeah Go ahead and share it and then I'll just I think I have to add it to the screen. How, how, how is business busy? Yeah. I mean, I see about 30, um, patients a week between 25 and 30. Can you see my screen or can you see the-
Starting point is 00:13:06 Oh yeah, yeah, oh, that's nice. Yeah, let me bring that up. That's really nice. Okay, I love it. Okay. Yeah, I see it. Don't bring up any porn or anything. I don't wanna get a ding.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Okay. No porn. This is all medical anatomy. What's that hole right there? Is that the butthole? No. anatomy what's that hole right there is that the butthole no this is this is the technically it's the penis where we it's the muscular layer of the penis hello mr. god that penis is straight hey really quick on a side note if if you masturbate your whole life with your right hand, you
Starting point is 00:13:46 will slowly put a curve in the penis, right? That's not necessarily true. But I mean, it is a force of function. And so there is some, you know, lean that can happen. But I think that is not necessarily been proven to be true. But if you hung, if you hung, let's say, let's say, let's say you spent 10 minutes a day, God, that seems like a long time. Let's say you spent four minutes a day masturbating. If you hung a weight from your ear for four minutes a day, every day for 10 years, your earlobe would eventually, it would stretch
Starting point is 00:14:25 out, right? Well, yeah, because that tissue, that tissue has elasticity to it that it is able to do that. They're the type of, I mean, the skin around our penis is the same skin that's around our ears. So the skin would stretch, but the tissue underneath, actually just let me lose my anatomy app here. So this part could stretch the fascia and the skin,
Starting point is 00:14:51 but underneath this deep like spongy layer, that won't stretch over time. And so the skin will stretch, but there's a deeper structure underneath there that is a little bit more rigid and doesn't have the same elasticity principles as the skin on top of it. Have there been any studies on that by any chance?
Starting point is 00:15:16 Well, so they've looked at like- Like right-handed guys versus left-handed guys, that would just be a quick way to cut through the chase, right? Well, so they haven't necessarily looked at like right-handers left-hand masturbation, but there are some penile stretching devices out there that are intended to help, you know, lengthen, get more length to the penis that they have looked at studies over time and the results have been negligible. Okay all right. Um oh sorry go ahead. No no fair enough okay I'm going to be distracted
Starting point is 00:15:56 a lot I can tell during this uh this one I'm going to have a lot of questions okay uh pelvic pelvis pelvic. Pelvis so yes technically let me just take off the muscles here. So the pelvis itself is just this, these three bones right in here that connect the spine to the lower extremities. And so when we're talking about a pelvis, this is the bony structure that creates that stability. But then underneath, oh shit, let me take off these,
Starting point is 00:16:25 the abdominal wall here, but underneath the abdominal wall and within the pelvis, we've got this muscular layer called the pelvic floor, which is a group of muscles that facilitates our ability to pee, poop, have sex, and create that general stability from the upper and lower halves. And so these ones- Show me those muscles again. Which ones? Just getting to those. These right inside the pelvis. So these muscles right in here and then
Starting point is 00:16:55 the outermost layer up into the perineum. These are considered pelvic floor muscles. Oh, I see the pooper. I see the pooper now now you can't treat that that hole. Okay, that's that's the anal sphincter and then The this hole right here is at the tube that the muscles create that the shaft of the penis Comes out of so the pelvic floor sits there and then it kind of wraps up into the penis Underneath the pair kind of. So all of these deep muscle, three layers of pelvic floor muscles and the deepest two layers sit inside the pelvis, but the outermost layer, the most superficial layer
Starting point is 00:17:33 sits on the outside of the pelvis. So then these are the muscles that facilitate erections and ejaculation and bowel movements and urination. These other muscles deep inside, they really create more of a stability effect. They hold the intra-abdominal organs. They hold all of our organs just kind of upright, like a hammock or a sling. And do, or if minus the ones that come up onto the penis, are all those ones on the bottom identical and females? No, the most all of these are but well let me just switch it over to a female.
Starting point is 00:18:11 So these muscles in the back are pretty much the same but the vaginal muscles are oriented a little differently. Can I could I see from the from the top from the looking into the person? Oh, yeah. Okay. So they're relatively the same. These back half muscles are relatively the same. Just the ones in the front are oriented a little differently.
Starting point is 00:18:39 So your expertise are those muscles. Yeah. So when I'm rehabbingbing working on patients with pelvic floor dysfunction, my, my expertise is in here. Basically. I always tell people below the rib cage and above the knees is kind of my specialty when it comes to physical therapy and rehabilitation. And then some of the signs that your muscles are having issues are,
Starting point is 00:19:03 are what? Um, well in men issues with urination with issues with bowel movements so I'll just go through a quick like symptom screen so urinary urgency urinary frequency pain with urination urinary hesitancy or urinary retention, not being able to fully empty your bladder, dribbling or leaking with urination or after urination, nighttime, like not what's called nocturia, waking up in the middle of the night to pee excessively with bowel movements, it's painful bowel movements, constipation, diarrhea, hemorrhoids, fissures. With sexual dysfunction, it's, you know, painful erections, painful ejaculation, erectile dysfunction, you know, a weak erection, or pain with ejaculation or delayed ejaculation, or premature ejaculation.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Pain with penetration, I treat a lot. I myself identify as gay and I treat a lot of gay men and paint the some of my patients come in with pain with penetration, receptive anal penetration, despite the what most people think anal penetration shouldn't be painful. So if it is, it might be a symptom of pelvic floor dysfunction. Um, how, let me, uh, I had a doctor check my something that was in my butt. I don't remember what it was. Your prostate. Yes, that thing. And as soon as he stuck his fingers in my butt, it felt like I had to poop. Like immediately.
Starting point is 00:20:42 I mean, there, there are lots of little nerve endings inside the rectum that if that's not something that you're used to, it'll trigger your brain to make you feel like you have to have a bowel movement. This is crazy, but should you be sticking anything in your butt? Like, is there like a rule like, Hey, you probably shouldn't stick anything in your butt. I mean, there's no data to, or there's no research to support that anal penetration has any long-term negative effects unless you are somebody that participates in larger
Starting point is 00:21:16 object penetration. Like there's a, there's a kink where, where people are into fisting where the whole fist up into, up into the rectum. And so, you know, that's the whole point of this. larger object penetration, like there's a kink where people are into fisting, where there's a whole fist up into the rectum. And so there is some research that might support some rectal prolapse or an increased incidence of rectal leakage or incontinence, but the research is so bad that even the research that has been done is not, like you could pick it apart and it's just not very conclusive. I'll say that. So I'm so, I'm so close minded.
Starting point is 00:21:57 I don't even think people should get piercing. So, so let me try to get outside my close mindedness. What about, is there any data that shows that you should penetrate your anus? I'm so close minded. I don't even think people should get piercing. So, so let me try to get outside my closed mindedness. What about, is there any data that shows that you should penetrate your anus? Like, um, is there any data that shows like enemas are good? No, actually, enemas on a regular basis, if you're using an enema, it can shut down or inhibit your body's natural mechanism for initiating a bowel movement. And you can become dependent on an enema.
Starting point is 00:22:25 So unless somebody's been told by their doctor that they need to use an enema, I usually will recommend people not use them because it can really throw off the GI system. What a trippy set of muscles. I'm trying to think because obviously you use them every single day, but probably people don't even think about them as muscles. Like you don't see them, you don't flex them, you're not working them out. Do they, if you're, let's say you're just a healthy person, you know what I mean? By healthy, you, you know, eat fruit and vegetables, nuts and seeds,
Starting point is 00:23:07 meat, you know what I mean? You exercise through the full range of motion, you know, 30 minutes a day. Could those muscles just go completely neglected your whole life and you live a perfectly healthy, fine life? Yeah, I mean, a lot of times people don't really know, people don't really know that they have a pelvic floor until something until something goes wrong. Until you have issues
Starting point is 00:23:31 with pain, pooping, having sex, or you have some sort of pelvic pain. And so most people, I would argue out in the world have no idea that this these group of muscles exists, that my job exists, that I help with certain issues of All the symptoms that I just listed In most people can go through their entire life living a perfectly healthy life not not needing Pelvic rehab or not knowing that they don't need to know that pelvic therapy is a thing but What is frustrating is that most people don't know that pelvic rehab is a thing or that the pelvic form muscles exist.
Starting point is 00:24:07 And when they go see their doctor, even a lot of physicians have no idea that my job exists or what I can help with. And so people will go see their doctor looking for help and all the traditional medical methods don't work. And then people get stuck in this loop of having symptoms, but not being able to get any help for it until they start googling their symptoms, or they see me on TikTok, or another pelvic PT on Instagram, and hear about
Starting point is 00:24:36 what we do and what we can help with. I mean, I have a, that's the whole reason I started my TikTok page back in during COVID was just to help build awareness about what I do and what I can help with. And so I get probably a handful of patients every month just from social media that were like, I didn't know that you existed until I stumbled across your video and my doctor never told me about this. My, you know, my gastroenterologist, my urologist never told me about this my you know, my gastroenterologist my urologist never told me about what you do It's so anyways, I could go on a whole soapbox about this topic
Starting point is 00:25:13 And I have some questions around that about people taking antibiotics for things that don't require antibiotics. I'll get to that in a second During There's a lot of stuff coming out there about people who during the years of the mass injection that was demanded over the entire planet Earth, now a lot of data is coming out of things that possibly could be going wrong. You know what I mean? We're seeing people dropping dead, heart attacks, inflammation, arising cancers, all of this stuff. Is there anything that you've looked at that been like directly to the pelvic floor or to the penis or to the vagina where you're
Starting point is 00:25:54 like, Hey, there's some, some interesting uptick there since they've had this mass injection across the planet. You know, obviously the big one is the heart. A lot of people have seen stuff weird with their heart. Have you noticed anything directly related to the genitals or the pelvic floor? I mean, I haven't specifically. It's hard to correlate because there are so many factors across everybody's individual lives that just because you got in. You received a vaccine doesn't necessarily correlate to all of the upticks and some of the stuff that I've been seeing. I would argue that COVID itself was a premeditated factor for a lot of the conditions that I see. A lot of people that are used to going out and walking to work or going to work and having to walk all day or on the office, all of a sudden their life came to a screeching halt and became static sitting at home on a couch 24 hours a day. And so that lack of mobility, that increase of stress from a global pandemic,
Starting point is 00:26:55 the stress of finances, of losing a job, you know, there are so many factors that could go into somebody's argument as to why their symptoms started that would be really hard to track and pinpoint that, you know, it was a vaccine that did it. So we do agree on that. We do agree definitely for sure on that, that the incident of reacting, whether you think it's good or bad, had an effect on health. And one of the things that suffered was the genitals and the pelvic floor. I will agree that COVID, the situation of COVID as a whole initiated an uptick in patient caseload, patient pelvic, chronic pelvic pain for me specifically. Whether or not that was due to the vaccine. Right. I'm not going to speak to that. Sure. And the, in the, in here, to further your point, I think I saw something that the average adult in the United States put on 29 pounds.
Starting point is 00:27:51 And putting on an extra 29 pounds isn't good for any part of the body, whether it's your feet, your penis, your ears, it's just your vision. It's it all it's all bad. It's all bad. Yeah. I mean, anybody putting on an extra 29 pounds, that's not going to bode well for any part of your body, your heart, your brain, your literally anything is going to, everything's going to suffer for that. And then the stress itself was just a lot to take on for a lot of people for various reasons.
Starting point is 00:28:24 And, you know, COVID was a really hard time for a lot of people for a lot to take on for a lot of people for various reasons. And COVID was a really hard time for a lot of people for a lot of reasons. And so, especially for my pelvic floor patients that are out used to being active and going to CrossFit four to five times a week or going to the gym seven days a week, suddenly had to completely halt their life and that lack of mobility, that lack of movement, all of that
Starting point is 00:28:46 stress, you know, a lot of my patients that come in with pelvic floor dysfunction, I always tell people, people hold their stress in a lot of different ways. People hold it in their necks or in their feet or in their shoulders. Most of all of my patients hold their stress in the pelvic floor. And it's, we haven't really talked about why pelvic floor dysfunction happens, but most of the time when patients come into my clinic, essentially they come in with a pelvic floor that is just so tightly wound. I call these people the tight asses. These are the type A, the high stress, the anxious, the high achievers.
Starting point is 00:29:19 They just hold all of their attention in their pelvic floor and just walk around in a kegel all day long and those muscles don't ever relax. And those muscles have to be able to relax in order for us to urinate and have bowel movements and have sex successfully. So, I mean, COVID was just not fun for a lot of reasons, but in terms of the patients that I see, there is a pretty
Starting point is 00:29:46 significant uptick, especially in chronic pain, the chronic pain patients that I see. Just across the board exacerbation of whatever, if you had a tight jaw, it probably got tighter. That is, I took on my first hot pilates class yesterday. How'd it go? It was it was amazing Like I I cannot I I cannot recommend it enough. It was a weird kind of hard. It was a really really weird kind of hard Why is this hard? Yeah, it was I don't even it was just basically you went into a dark room. It was hot as shit
Starting point is 00:30:24 there's you're in there with like 40, the most, the most beautiful moms you've ever seen in your life and 20 shirtless dudes, not me. I wore long john shorts shirt and a sweatshirt. Um, but, uh, and it's an hour of, you know, vacillating between holding planks and all these weird positions. And it got really, really hot. And I brought water there thinking I wouldn't drink it. I drank the whole thing of water. I drank before I entered, I drank two pints of water before I went into the class. When I came
Starting point is 00:30:53 out, I was parched. I drank a pint when I was in there. It was nuts. It was hard. Yeah. Plotties itself is hard. Adding in the hot element to it is no thank you. The first 10 minutes were I mean I'm 52 the first 10 minutes were amazing like I just I couldn't believe how great being in that room all my joints felt but I wasn't myself the rest of the day I was white I was wiped I was and I exercise a lot and I was wiped. I was, one of the reasons I, I love Pilates is because the, the fundamentals of it are. The fundamentals of Pilates and integrates the pelvic floor and the deep hip stabilizers and the deep core muscles and the back muscles. Like everything that I work on with patients from a rehabilitative standpoint is what Pilates works on on like a fundamental global
Starting point is 00:31:54 standpoint. And so whenever patients graduate from physical therapy, I always I don't always but Pilates is one of the like in betweens between like, you are a physical therapy patient to you are a working functional human being out in the world, doing CrossFit or going back to your gym routine, Orange Theory, whatever it is. Pilates is that in-between a lot of times that I'll recommend patients do
Starting point is 00:32:19 before they go back to their full workout routine for a few weeks. I could notice, I mean, obviously I put my body into a lot of shock because I'm not used to those movements in that temperature, but I woke up this morning and I could totally see the difference in my body. It was crazy, and I'm 52. I was like, wow, holy shit,
Starting point is 00:32:36 I cannot believe how different my body is. Let me ask you this way off subject, but do you think that doing Pilates just once a week is enough? Does that make you a weekend if you do other kinds of exercises? Like I was thinking, Oh, maybe I will start doing it just on Sundays. And then I was like, is that enough? I think if you functionally are, you know, healthy and there are no underlying pain issues or stability issues. If you don't have any joint pain or
Starting point is 00:33:11 any injuries that you're trying to rehab from, I think once a week, a couple times a week would be sufficient to work on the nuances of what Pilates works on while incorporating all of your other workout routines into that. I think that would be plenty Philip Kelly. Wow. One Pilates and your physique drastically changed. It didn't drastically change, but it was just like the first time I did CrossFit within a week. I was like, Holy shit. Something's going on with my body composition. I see something different in the mirror. And this morning I was brushing my teeth in the mirror. I got out of the shower and I'm like, oh, something definitely is different. Something is definitely different. And what's another weird thing is, is I'm not sore. But I will tell you this, my joints were last night, my joints were, my knees were tired. My knees were tired. I was not injured, but they were, they were tired. I did not want to use my knees anymore. I did not want to move around.
Starting point is 00:34:06 I was, I was toast. I was toast from all the different leg positions and the, and the weird kind of squats, the pigeon squats and the close squats. And I normally just do just regular squats. Right. And that's one of the reasons why I love Pilates is because, you know, with CrossFit or orange theory, or just going to the gym on your own, like most people really only work on the larger muscle groups, you know, the quads, the glutes,
Starting point is 00:34:30 the the the rectus abdominis, the six pack muscles, like people really only work on the big movers and they don't really focus on the smaller stabilizers. And that's all Plotty's is is working on the small stability muscle groups within the hip within the pelvic floor within the deep core within the deep Lower back but like that's all plotty says yeah There was a lot of standing on one leg and touching the ground a lot of standing on one leg I mean my it was crazy how quick how quickly I was shaking in every movement because of all the single leg stuff So leg stuff. So if you if you were to recommend a fitness program for someone who had a pelvic floor issues, is Pilates the one?
Starting point is 00:35:15 That's a hard question to answer because it really just kind of depends on what people are coming in for. Some people need that stability, some people need that deep core stability, but I would argue a lot of people really need to learn how to relax and need to learn how to gain flexibility through the tissues. And so between Pilates and yoga, those two like, I don't want to say accessory workouts are they like go my my go tos, but they are like before I send somebody if I have a CrossFitter who's used to doing CrossFit five, six days a week. And I have them most of the time, like I said, people need to work on flexibility and mobility through through the tissues and the joints. So yoga tends to be one of the options that I'll have people explore after we finish with rehab.
Starting point is 00:36:10 But Pilates, depending on the person, it could also be effective if people need that more stability and strengthening aspect. Hey, what about just doing, it's interesting that this motif I'm hearing from you is that a lot of the'm hearing from you is is that a lot of issues come from holding tension there and like flexing the muscle like someone who's like always burning down on their jaw what about
Starting point is 00:36:33 playing a an audio track that has a like hitting like a yoga bell every minute to remind you to focus but just lying on your back and bringing all of your attention to your groin and just while you breathe until you feel that you would actually feel that muscle let go. I mean you're speaking exactly to some of the homework that I prescribe for people. There are actually YouTube videos out there that are pelvic floor relaxation, down training videos where it's a guided, almost like a guided meditation, if you will, where you're just listening to the cues really trying to tap into what they're saying and focus all of your mental energy down into the pelvic floor and pairing that with your breath, which is a huge component to
Starting point is 00:37:26 pelvic floor relaxation. That's a is a like, sometimes the one thing that I'll have patients do after their first visit so that they can start to build that connection between their their their mind and their pelvic floor that mind body connection. For me, it's a it's a daily practice. I mean, usually at least three times a day. It's, it's, and it's trippy cause I take it for granted, but to check in with, lay perfectly still on the ground and then scan my body and then,
Starting point is 00:37:58 and then just choose random parts and bring all my attention there until there's no seven. I'm just in the knee cap or I'm just in my penis or I'm just in my spine. You know, I just like to go in there and hang out in there. And in the reason why I was saying obviously, it sounds like you know, too, that minute on the bell thing is because sometimes you catch yourself wandering. You're like, Oh, I wonder if it was like at the park right now. I wonder if it's a good time to go play with the kids. And then you need that bell so you can be like, Okay, I need to bring my attention out of my brain and back into my body.
Starting point is 00:38:27 So that is a huge part. Is that the number one thing with the pelvic floor? People just facilitating awareness to it? That's like step one. Hey, you gotta become aware of it, that it exists. Yeah, honestly, that's what I always tell people on day one. Like my first goal for you is just for you to realize that you have a pelvic floor and how to connect with it so that you recognize kind of like the example that you gave like if
Starting point is 00:38:49 somebody's clenching their teeth all the time, the first thing that I want people to do is recognize when they're clenching their teeth. I want them to recognize when they're clenching their pelvic floor and then hopefully I've done my job successfully after the first visit and they recognize when they're clenching their pelvic floor and then they know how to relax it when they are. You'll be talking to someone and you can tell if they have a tight jaw by the way they talk sometimes or like singers like their mouths won't open all the way. Can you see from the outside if you're looking at someone naked, can you tell by their butt whether they're squeezing down,
Starting point is 00:39:29 whether they're kind of trapped, locked up? Because you know, you see those people with those kind of those, in the sides of their butt, those dimples. They're not even dimples, it's just concave. And whenever I see that, I always go, oh, I wonder if that person squeezing that like I wonder what they're doing. I wonder if that has to do with their pelvic floor. So short answer is yes. Usually there's some there's some signs within people's bodies that you can you start to see trends between different people that are they're likely clenching their pelvic floor. One of them you mentioned, I call them butt grippers. Whenever people just walk, you can see people standing and it's kind of this like, people are
Starting point is 00:40:16 squeezing their butt cheeks and their whole entire pelvis is tucked under. Think of like a dog tucking its tail. Like that's kind of what people look like whenever people are just squeezing their butt all the time, their butt grippers. And so they're just kind of rotating their pelvis backwards. And that looks like you get little dimples on the sides of your hips, the people lose the shape of their butt cheeks. So they kind of become their back half looks flat, you can't really see much of their butt. And those people almost all the time are, are clenching their pelvic floor unknowingly all of the time. Hey, anecdotally is there, um, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:52 you know how like people can like look at the bottom of your feet and be like, oh, your liver's fucked up or stuff like that. And anecdotally is there different traumas that affect different tightening like clenched fist or tight like clenched fist is your mom was mean to you tight. I'm just me. I didn't mean that tight jaws like you know your your dad hits you. Is there anecdotally anything that you seek trauma that leads to that tightening? I can't say that it's you know caus, causation doesn't necessarily mean correlate to correlation.
Starting point is 00:41:29 But one specific type of trauma that a lot of times can contribute to somebody with an overactive or a hypertonic tight pelvic floor is a sexual trauma. If somebody's experienced some sort of sexual abuse or sexual trauma, a lot of times I've worked with a lot of patients that have had sexual trauma in their life that has then translated to this tight, overactive, hyper protective pelvic floor that leads to issues with peeing, pooping, having sex, or just creating general pain complaints. Which would make sense. I mean, I mean that one's kind of given are there are there any others?
Starting point is 00:42:08 That stand out to you. I mean not really no it not in terms of like pelvic floor disorders the The sexual trauma is really the biggest one. I mean sometimes like a physical trauma like a fall Mmm, I always tell people There's a book called the your body, the body keeps a score. And it's about this exact topic where different traumas that people experience in their life show up in a lot of different ways. And for a lot of
Starting point is 00:42:37 my pelvic floor patients, you know, we've already talked about stress and, and different types of trauma and how that can impact somebody holding tension in the pelvic floor, but you know, a death in the family, losing you losing your job, you know, a divorce, any sort of just life trauma sometimes can facilitate, um, holding on, leading to holding on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:05 In the pelvis. Uh, you'd recommend this book. Look at that 77,000 five star ratings. That's insane. Yeah. It's one of the, it's one of the, whenever somebody tells me that they've experienced any type of trauma and we're trying to unpack all of this pelvic floor work, this is one of the resources that
Starting point is 00:43:25 I recommend people listen to. Oh, I should listen to this. I was in a really bad bike accident when I was seven. I wonder if that, you know, I spent a lot of time in the hospital for it. Bang my head really hard. Yeah, they thought I was going to be gork when I came to. Maybe I am gorked. Maybe, maybe.
Starting point is 00:43:41 All right. Lance, your practice is in Miami. Atlanta. Atlanta. Sorry. Why do I always think it's Miami? That's okay. I'm in Atlanta. Yeah. And do you still take clients? I do. Yeah. I just hired another therapist. So we're trying to build his schedule. So I were we're taking new patients um Lance you first came on because
Starting point is 00:44:12 Our paths crossed because of the exerciser Mm-hmm back there. Um, so the question is can you actually make your penis bigger? Yes, you can I mean Yes, you can. I mean, the results of a penis pump, specifically the exerciser, at first, they're just going to be temporary. So you're going to gain size and girth, you're going to gain size and length, but it's going to be temporary. But the idea is that those temporary effects over time kind of the example that you gave earlier of like hanging away from your earlobe, eventually, you're going to have a longer earlobe, it's kind of the example that you gave earlier like hanging away from your love eventually you're gonna have a lot of your love is kind of the same principle of the penis. Now i wanna go back to what i said earlier about there's types of tissue in the penis that overtime won't adapt like the skin and outer layer but you can make small changes and so
Starting point is 00:45:00 you're not gonna gain an extra three inches by using a penis pump consistently every day You might gain an eighth of an inch maybe a quarter of an inch It's it's not going to be you know a drastic change over time. There's only so much room There's only so much Length that you are able or going to be able to get if assuming you're using the penis pump consistently as recommended every day. Recently there was that Algerian boxer, did you follow that story? And there was in the Olympics and they were debating whether it was a man or a woman. Yeah. And then who knows what's true anymore? But about a week ago it came out that the medical exam came out and they said it was a man
Starting point is 00:45:51 and it had a micro penis and testicles. Have you seen that? Did you see that? How common? And then I looked up micro penis. I couldn't even believe that a micro penis is basic. Have you seen a micro penis? Um, I have not seen one clinically in the, in my clinic. No.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Wow. Okay. So probably pretty uncommon, but you've seen pictures of one. Yeah. And basically from the pictures I saw, it's basically looks like just like it has testicles and then there's a helmet sitting on it. Like there's almost like no shaft. Yeah. Could you use the exercise or on that? I mean, I don't want to say no, but you have to have, I mean, the way that the, the pump is, is made, you have the insertion hole that creates that suction, that vacuum. And so I would imagine that if you are at least able
Starting point is 00:46:49 to create a vacuum seal around the top of the penis, you might be able to, but even then, the length that you would gain is only gonna be temporary. And so over time, you'd have to use it consistently, but even the results from it would be negligible unless you're using it consistently every day. I don't want to flex on you. Well, I do want to flex on you. Even one of the people in the audience, a girl had said she had seen a micro penis lands.
Starting point is 00:47:25 I mean, I know they're out out there I just have never seen one. You haven't had one come across your path. I want to ask you about erections throughout the night. We touched on this last time you were on is When when you're sleeping at night and you get an erection is that is that a sign that your body's making testosterone? What is that a sign of that or what is the sign? What what is your body doing? Why is it? Why is it getting erect in the middle of the night? So Nocturnal erections happen during REM sleep, which is the deepest cycle of sleep that we get into happens about Six to nine times a night. It should happen at least and so if God that sounds crazy doesn't it?
Starting point is 00:48:16 It has nothing to do with testosterone production It has more to do with quality of sleep. And so if you're not getting adequate sleep, you're not going to have nocturnal erections. Obviously, there's a testosterone component to it. So if you have low testosterone, it's going to impact the ability of us to get nocturnal erections. But because we get them doesn't necessarily mean that we're making testosterone during that period. Okay, there's not like, okay, you're making testosterone, the penis is going to be hard. It is no. No, that means that you if you're getting not terminal erections, you're getting quality sleep,
Starting point is 00:48:53 and you're successfully entering into a REM sleep cycle. And why what is the what is the mechanism? Like I heard at night when you sleep, if you get adequate sleep, there's your brain goes through some sort of cleaning process every single night. It does some sort of flush. Is that similar with the penis? That's a lot of erections, dude. If you sleep for eight hours, that's like you're on one an hour. That seems like a lot.
Starting point is 00:49:20 We don't really know why it happens. Why we know why it happened, or we know that it happens during REM sleep, but we don't really know why that that why it's correlated to that. We don't know what the pre meditated factor is that triggers an erection whenever we enter into a REM sleep. But we do know that it happens. And it is you're right, the brain goes through this almost like flushing period
Starting point is 00:49:47 where it takes the important bits of the day that need to be remembered and it kind of stores those deep into our brain and then flushes out all the rest. And so when we wake up the next day, assuming that we get adequate sleep, you kind of start over with a clean slate and what needs to be retained is retained
Starting point is 00:50:04 and everything else is kind of pushed to the back burner If you wake up with an erection, is there any like conventional wisdom that you should go back to sleep? Like you interrupted some sort of Process Like you know like like you open the microwave door too early Like, you know, like, like you open the microwave door too early. If you're waking up during REM sleep, there's probably some other factors going on that you need to tease out as to why you're waking up because REM sleep is supposed to be the deepest, most, I'm going to say unconscious part
Starting point is 00:50:36 of our sleep, but when you're in a REM sleep, it should be really difficult to wake up during that. And so if you're waking up consistently during that, I would want to figure out what other factors were going on. You know, I mean, like I wake up every morning at six o'clock and every morning I have a crazy erection and I think, fuck, maybe I should be, maybe like, maybe I should be sleeping until six, maybe I should be going to bed either a half hour earlier or sleeping a half hour longer to let whatever fate, whatever
Starting point is 00:51:03 it's doing, like finish what it's doing are you waking up with an alarm yeah If you go to the same bed or same if you go to sleep wrote at the same time relatively every night And you're waking up at the same time relatively every night, and you're waking up now I go to bed at 11 And I get up at 6 almost like every single day and then right when the show's over I usually go take I do 20 minute energy body which usually ends up in me like falling asleep like like every single day Yeah
Starting point is 00:51:34 we We do wake up we as men we do wake up with erections and it is a function of REM sleep Typically when we wake up like if you wake up naturally without an alarm clock, the phase directly after a REM deep REM sleep cycle is supposed to be the lightest sleep and that's typically when we wake up. And so you're coming out of a REM sleep whenever we wake up naturally on our own. But if your alarm clock's going on every morning and it's waking you up in the middle of a REM sleep, that's probably why you're waking up with a rock hard erection. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Thank you. It is rock hard. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's so fun. God, I almost feel bad for people who don't ever get to experience a penis. They're so fun. They are. They are fun.
Starting point is 00:52:19 They are. They are so good. Penises are fun. They're so crazy. It's like it's yours, but it's not yours. You're definitely responsible for it. Hey, what about people who've never had a wet dream? Is there any way to induce a wet dream?
Starting point is 00:52:37 Is there any way you could summons one or any practice you could do to summons one? I don't think so. Um, I mean, I've only had two in my life. They were, they're great. Well, that dreams happened during periods of, of hormonal changes. And so typically we experienced them during, during puberty when we're just like running rampant with testosterone. And it, that's typically when it happens. And
Starting point is 00:53:06 that's, that's when we're, that's when typically when we're the horniest, when we're most, you know, that like primal level of, of hormone development is happening. And so most wet dreams happen during that during that period. But, you know, if people are on hormone replacement, or if they're on supplemental testosterone, it is possible that you could induce wet dreams depending on you know, the environment that you're in or how horny you are, or you know, the people that you're around. But it's not necessarily something that you can like take a pill or take an injection and fall asleep and have a, you know, induce a wet dream. If you had a camera, I always wondered this, if you had a camera on someone who was having a wet dream, would they be like humping their pillow or humping their bed or touching themselves? Or is it just a spot? It's just a, like, could you be just sleeping on your back and have a spontaneous discharge? So there, I think there's, I mean, there's different levels of a quote unquote wet dream.
Starting point is 00:54:11 You could have like what pre come where you just have a little bit of dribble that comes out or you can have a full on. Yeah. Yeah. That sounds horrible. Did the first one you said, and a lot, a lot of times, you know, people, I mean, you can have a hands-free orgasm where you don't really need there. You don't need stimulation to have an orgasm. Those, it's, I'm not gonna say it's common. It's actually pretty rare for people to be able to do that, but
Starting point is 00:54:39 it is possible. And so you could have an orgasm just laying flat on your back without any sort of movement. And it's just a power or the power of your brain creating that sensation. But if you that like I said, it's pretty rare for people to be able to do that. And there needs to be some kind of stimulation. And so I would bet that if you had a camera on most people who do experience wet dreams, I would bet that there's some level of, of humping or of grinding or like butt,
Starting point is 00:55:09 even like butt clenching that happens to trigger that orgasm. Um, uh, that the, it's interesting. You bring up the orgasm without stimulation. Um, those ones that I've had where there's an orgasm without stimulation, there's no ejaculation. It's the exact same feeling like you go through the pumping and you go through like just like in the refractory periods really short. It's like seconds instead of an hour. But why does that happen sometimes?
Starting point is 00:55:42 You know what I mean? You're getting at it and you're like, oh, I'm coming to the edge. I better not let it fly. And you stop and then you have an orgasm, but no semen comes out. What's the mechanism in that? And then you can kind of just keep, do you know what I'm talking about? Well, if you're not, you get that involuntary palpation. It feels just like an orgasm, but you still stay hard and nothing comes out
Starting point is 00:56:07 But it's always like if you pull back at the last minute Well, I would argue that you probably didn't Completely finish the orgasm, especially if there's no ejaculate because assuming that you don't have any prostate issues or you don't have it You still have a prostate The way that we ejaculate or unless you're on a medication where you have retrograde ejaculation where you ejaculate but it goes up into the bladder instead of coming out the tip of the penis. Is that bad?
Starting point is 00:56:35 It's not bad. Some medications can induce a retrograde ejaculation. We might need to bring up your picture for that. I can't even picture that. Okay, go on. We'll bring that up in a second. That's crazy. But if you're having the sensation of an orgasm but there's no ejaculate that comes out, I would argue that you probably didn't completely fully have an orgasm and that's why you're able to keep going. Because there is a point of no return. And this is one of the, if people have ever heard of, or I know most people.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Yeah, you can't cross that point. You can't cross that point. With premature ejaculation, one of the techniques that people will, you know, coach people through is like edging. And so if you're edging, basically, you're either masturbating or having sex to the point of just before the point of no return. Yeah, and wait, waiting for that sensation to subside, and then continuing to go once that sensation is completely passed. And so you're trying to build build up that that latent period between no sensation and an orgasm. And so back to your point where if you're having, you know, if that sensation of like you have,
Starting point is 00:57:54 you're close to having an orgasm, but you stop yourself before you do, that would, I would argue that you probably didn't have a complete orgasm then. Especially if you're able to orgasm, or if you're able to ejaculate afterwards. Yeah. Yeah. So now, so that's just, now we're talking definitions and semantics.
Starting point is 00:58:14 So I like that. So basically if you don't, you're suggesting that if you don't ejaculate, whether it be a retro, I don't know where it goes in the bladder, you said, or out the penis, you're suggesting that's not even a full orgasm? Well, that's, that's not what I said. If you retrograde ejaculation, you are still, you are having an orgasm and you are ejaculating. It's just not coming out of the tip of the penis. It's coming, it's going up into the bladder instead.
Starting point is 00:58:40 Right, right. And so you have a full orgasm. It's just, you don't have any seminal fluid because of it. Right. And with what I'm talking about, and what you're describing, I would argue that you're probably not, there is no ejaculate that's happening, because it's not, you're not getting anything out of the tip of the penis. So it is kind of semantics, but it's, it's details that are important, especially whenever I'm working with premature ejaculation patients. This is a conversation that I have all the time with people. I can't imagine sex without edgy. If I didn't edge, it would always be over in like three seconds.
Starting point is 00:59:17 Like you always have to edge. I prefer to call it pacing. I mean edgy pacing, whatever you want to call it. Pace yourself. Pace yourself. But it does seem like, from my experience, you could bring yourself close to ejaculation, then you can have the involuntary pumps. The more times you do that, also I would claim 100% of the time, subjectively, that the orgasm is significantly better.
Starting point is 00:59:47 So if you can do that five or six or seven times and have seven orgasms as a guy before you finally, or I guess you don't call an orgasm, but those I'll call involuntary palpations that bring you close, then when you finally do have it, it's crazy. It feels like a water truck came out. I mean, and that's, that's why most, that's why a lot of people who have penises enjoy edging, because if you are doing that consistently over time, the buildup of the intensity of the orgasm makes the final orgasm that much more pleasurable. And your wife's not mad at you or your partner's not mad at you.
Starting point is 01:00:28 True. But the people, the people who have premature ejaculation who don't necessarily know how to control that sensation, that first, and that first sensation of an orgasm, they finished a completion rather than having that control to kind of pull back and pace it as you call it Some people don't have that control and that's one of the things that pelvic PT can help with or should be not really true That's not just an asshole
Starting point is 01:00:54 That's just or a 15 year old boy. You know what I mean? Like is there really something is there really such thing as premature? Jack there is 100% I mean I treat so many patients in the clinic that have premature ejaculation? There is? 100%. I mean, I treat so many patients in the clinic that have premature ejaculation. How do you distinguish that? You have to be like, okay, dude, be honest with me. That's literally what I say. I'm like, okay. Why don't you just stop pumping and like bite your tongue or something or think about fucking basketball? Like, what are you doing? It's a lot of times it's out of their control. It's a nervous system response. The sympathetic nervous system is just in overdrive and they themselves can't
Starting point is 01:01:33 consciously control the intensity of their nervous system. And so their nervous system is driving this, this orgasm involuntarily. And so I'll have patients will say that, you know, I tried, I've tried numbing creams, I've tried thinking of, you know, kittens and my grandma dying and like, it's great. It's a, it's an involuntary nervous system up regularity that is driving the orgasm is not
Starting point is 01:02:05 anything that was is within their control per se. And so I know, technically, the American Medical Association, AMA, they describe premature ejaculation as an unwanted orgasm or ejaculation that happens and under, I think it's two minutes that causes distress to the patient. And so that's a lot of subjective shit, right? It's a lot of subjective stuff. And so people will come in and they'll say, I have premature ejaculation. And I'll ask them like, well, what does that mean to you? Like, how long would you say that it takes you
Starting point is 01:02:45 to achieve an orgasm? And some people will say literally, you know, less than 30 seconds. I put it in and I'm done in less than a minute. And then I'll have some patients that say, well, you know, I can't last longer than 15 minutes. And it's a very, it's a very, it's a very, it's a very, it's a very subjective diagnosis.
Starting point is 01:03:07 And so a lot of my job is talking about setting expectations and like what realistic goals look like for people. And so anyways, we're, I kind of went on a soapbox there, but the, what you're describing is that that sensation of an orgasm being able to pull back from that. Yeah. Just means that you have good pelvic floor control. Boy, it's yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:33 Cause that's interesting. I never thought of it as that. I just thought it was like good self-control. I equate it to like, um, someone comes by some, you're somewhere and someone comes with a box of donuts and you just don't eat it. To me, they're like, they're so, they're so similar. Okay. I don't eat that donut. I could see that, but sometimes it's,
Starting point is 01:03:59 it's with outside of people's control. It it's not just a, I will, or I won't do this.. It's a my body won't allow me to not do this Sort of thing. Yeah Listen if you're having if you're if you're having sex for more than 15 minutes, you're a jackass No, the whole thing the whole thing if you go to bed it the whole thing should be done the the kissing the touching the all of it should be done in. I think 15 minutes is a good time, but the actual plunging. Unless you're going through like eight positions.
Starting point is 01:04:36 And you're really drunk. I don't think I'm not nervous. I just, I 45 minutes. Holy fuck, dude. I got it. It's a long time. I got to get to sleep right Sean Lennerman do not try to tell sevi that anything is out of your control. Yeah. Well you figured me out One of the things you talk about is a paint pelvic floor in the relationship with pain to orgasm.
Starting point is 01:05:05 I was kind of tripping on that. What is the biology of that? Why would it be painful to orgasm? True nutrition is probably one of my favorite products, not only because it comes quickly but because of the contents inside of it. At a very affordable cost, I know I'm getting the best high quality grass-fed whey that's anywhere on the market. But it doesn't just stop there. I like the de-bitterized, hydrolyzed whey protein isolate.
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Starting point is 01:06:39 an orgasm is this pleasurable kind of euphoric experience that should feel good but a lot of times patients instead of it feeling good, it'll be painful. I have some guys describe it as it feels like razor blades coming out of the tip of my penis or it burns or it feels like I've been kicked in the nuts after I ejaculate. And so there's different reasons as to why that could be. But sometimes it's a prostate issue, sometimes it's a pelvic floor issue, sometimes it's a nerve up regulation issue that we've I've kind of alluded to. There's a couple of different reasons but there's a condition called
Starting point is 01:07:16 prostatitis out there where I'm gonna try to stay pretty superficial with the definition of it but prostatitis in the clinical sense means that there's an inflammatory process happening within the prostate. There's different reasons as to why that could be. There's four different categories of prostatitis. Three of them involve a bacterial infection. The fourth one doesn't. And 95% of the prostatitis diagnoses are actually the non-bacterial, it's called chronic non-bacterial
Starting point is 01:07:49 prostatitis. It's later been renamed chronic pelvic pain syndrome because it's actually a function of the pelvic floor muscles that are causing all of the pain versus a bacterial infection of the prostate. And so when patients come in to see me, a lot of times they've seen one, two, five different urologists. They've had every test under the sun performed, a urine screen, a semen culture, blood work, and nothing can find anything.
Starting point is 01:08:16 And so despite that, their physician will still put them on antibiotics or, you know, anti viral medications, steroids, hydro steroids, and nothing really helps it because it's not a bacterial or a viral infection. It's a function of the pelvic floor muscles going into like a Charlie horse essentially that causes a lot of people's pain. Isn't that a trip that it's like letting go is the cure. You don't have to do anything. It's like to stop doing something. It's literally, I don't want to make light of it because I've treated
Starting point is 01:08:55 patients that have been in pain for 10 years that haven't had any sort of help with it because the medical community just doesn't know that people like me exist, which is incredibly frustrating. But a lot of times it's just like if you just relax your asshole, if you just relax your pelvic floor, a lot of these symptoms would improve. And but again, people don't know that they have a pelvic floor. People don't know that they can relax it and people don't know that they can make changes to it. So it's nobody's fault except for the medical community not not being educated enough to, to know when to send people out to other people.
Starting point is 01:09:30 Wow. That must be crazy. You've had clients who it's painful to have an orgasm and then you work with them and they're like, doc, yes. Yes, Charlie. I busted a nut and it felt great. Yeah. That's amazing. I can't imagine it hurting. It is people a lot of times will describe it as like the space between the testicles and the anus that like the taint or the gooch. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:59 That part of the body just feels like it goes into a Charlie horse. It feels. Oh, into a Charlie horse. It feels, Oh, I've had that. I've not in a long time, but I remember I've had that probably a half dozen times in my life where it's always related to yawning. I've yawned and that thing gets fucking cramped. Interesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:17 Have you ever had that thing cramp that spot in between their cramp? It's crazy. I have not, but I treat people on a daily basis that that's what they're coming in to see me for. Oh, that would be, yeah. It's whore. It's it's a, it's crazy. I have not but I treat people on a daily basis that that's what they're coming in to see me for Oh, that would be yeah, it's horrible. It's yeah, I've had that before it's it's basically just like a muscle cramp It's like, you know, like when you're doing an L sit and like you're one of your quads will fucking lock up. Yeah Yeah, it's like that Yeah, it's been very quick. That's interesting. Yeah, I've had it when I've yawn and when I sneeze It's been very quick. That's interesting. Yeah, I've had it when I've yawn and when I sneeze
Starting point is 01:10:51 It's quick, but that thing will just get like anyone else who's got my back on that Um, uh There was this uh my My Couldn't have been driving. I don't know how old I was but I was walking home from school and there was this girl who lived down the street from me. I was probably like 14 or 15. And she came over to the house.
Starting point is 01:11:11 My parents weren't home. I was a latchkey kid. She came over to my house and I felt her boobs probably like for 10 minutes. And then I walked her home. And on the walk home, I started having this crazy pain in my balls. Like the craziest fucking like
Starting point is 01:11:27 ruthless pain and Then I masturbated did pain didn't go away I'm assuming that's the the infamous blue balls. Yeah, what is that? What's the mechanism of that? It's and it was wrong. It was really bad It was like getting kicked in the balls and it not going away for a long time Yeah, when when you're really horny when you've been when there's been so much stimulation That your body kind of goes into overdrive and there is no Release of it all that pressure build up and the epididymis in the vas deference little tube that carries sperm
Starting point is 01:12:06 There's just a lot of pressure and the the sperm generating structures in our testicles that Typically, you know going back to that like primal level or primal like function are one of our main Goals as a species is to reproduce. And so that innate kind of pressure that builds up whenever we have that stimulation, where the next step should be that release and it doesn't happen, that's typically where our testicles,
Starting point is 01:12:35 we get that blue ball sensation where it just, it feels like getting kicked in the nuts that just doesn't go away. Is it actual stretching like something like it's, like you ever play a musical instrument and like your cheeks hurt or you blow, you're blowing up so many balloons that your cheeks start hurting.
Starting point is 01:12:54 Is it like that? Not really because the structures that if you actually, if you pull up my anatomy app, I can show you. And then even when you do, it's like it's like a it's like a coffee headache, you know, like if you get a coffee headache, it's too late. You drink coffee in the headache stays. It's like you fuck you missed the caffeine window. It's like that.
Starting point is 01:13:15 Then even after you bust a nut, it still hurts. Right. I mean, that's just because of all that pressure that's been built up in there over time. He is assuming that some people do have an orgasm. The, the achy sensation that like soreness should eventually subside, you know, within a few hours, but yeah, a few hours, but you don't want pain there for two seconds. Right. And assuming that people, assuming that people do get that release, um, you know, that the soreness, the sensation should subside, but if you don't, assuming that people do get that release,
Starting point is 01:13:47 the soreness, the sensation should subside, but if you don't, a lot of times it won't subside until you do ejaculate. But this is what I'm talking about, the epididymis, the sperm is created in the epididymis, stored in the testicles, and then released up into the, up into the prostate and into the penis through the vas devrons and this pressure buildup that happens all throughout here is where that soreness and that achy sensation comes from and when we're talking about
Starting point is 01:14:16 retrograde ejaculation this tube oh you do have a brain behind your dick. I knew it This is a bladder this stores the stores your you might have a bladder I have a brain down there Whatever you say so the prostate is this the connector between the testicles and, um, and the bladder and the penis. And when we have retrograde ejaculation inside here, there's a little tiny, a little, this app is amazing. This little like connector right here is where the tube from the testicles connects into the prostate. And there's a little flap inside the urethra here
Starting point is 01:15:09 that whenever we ejaculate, semen should come into the prostate and then go down into the penis. But with retrograde ejaculation, that there's a malfunction with the flap and the semen goes up into the bladder instead. And so usually, after you have an orgasm, all of the semen and the ejaculate will come up here
Starting point is 01:15:31 and then most of the time people have to pee after an orgasm and so if you go to the bathroom afterwards, your urine will be really super cloudy and really, cloudy is the best word, but it's because all of the ejaculate then mixed in with the urine and so you have cloudy urine afterwards. It's too bad you can't just control that flap on your own is like a form of birth control. I know right. No this is the just and this is mostly attributed to medications.
Starting point is 01:16:00 There's some medications that kind of reverse the mechanism of this flat shutting. And so a lot of the pelvic floor patients that I'm seeing will be on it. One of the main medications that does it is Flomax. And it's a medication that should make peeing easier. It helps to relax the prostate here so that the tube is a little bit more open and relaxed but sometimes it can create a malfunction in this little flap and so it'll contribute it'll be to retrograde ejaculation. By the way thank you for all these explanations this is great. What about steroids? I've heard that like if you if you're on steroids that it can affect your ability to get someone pregnant. Why does that work? I would think that if
Starting point is 01:16:50 you are on steroids you would be more likely to get someone pregnant. No steroids, steroids impact our fertility system and so if we're taking you know high doses of testosterone it basically is inhibiting our body's natural mechanism to create testosterone. And so the testicles essentially go offline. That's why a lot of people, unless they're taking some sort of, well, I'm not gonna say that, I can't say that.
Starting point is 01:17:22 Unless people are taking other medications to stimulate their own body's natural testosterone mechanism, a lot of times testosterone will go completely offline. The testicles will completely go offline, and so people's testicles will literally shrivel up. And so because of that, the natural sperm count that we make starts to drastically decline. And so people can become infertile
Starting point is 01:17:48 if they're on testosterone or they're on supplemental testosterone or high dose steroids without anything to counter that to keep the natural testicular function going. Wow, that makes such sense. So you're saying the testicles have multiple duties. One of them is to create sperm. One of them is to make testosterone.
Starting point is 01:18:09 One of them is to maintain the temperature of the nuts, all that stuff. But if you take testosterone, the whole store closes down. It'd be like if you wanted to go to a store, it's like the store's closed. And then with the store being closed it stops making sperm and The thing that you can't say proper for like because you can't give medical advice is that there could be things out there that where you could take Testosterone, but then also take some other something else that keeps the store open Wow
Starting point is 01:18:51 Wow and else that keeps the store open. Wow. Wow. And theoretically, if you were taking testosterone, you'd probably want to keep the store open. So you better do it right. If you want to have, if you want to reproduce. When the store, when the testicles go offline, do they ever come back online if you stop taking testosterone? They can, but it's very, very, very, very difficult. And it requires a lot of extra medication. So that's a lifetime commitment. That's like more severe than a tattoo. And that's what, assuming you're getting it prescribed and you're doing it in a method
Starting point is 01:19:28 that has been prescribed to you, that's typically what they'll say. In order for this to be effective, it's something that you're going to have to continue for the rest of your life. And assuming that you agree to that, then most physicians will educate you on what you need to do and what your goals are. If you are planning to have kids, they'll they'll continue to, you know, help manage that the other aspect of infertility with you. But a lot of times, yeah, it's a lifetime commitment. I had a friend who was a physician who had been on antidepressants. And he was, I want to say he was in his late 70s.
Starting point is 01:20:14 And he heard a show where we were talking about testosterone on the show, taking testosterone supplementation. And he said he got off his antidepressants and he got on testosterone. And he said it was like, he said he wished he would have known sooner. He said it was the greatest thing ever. He said antidepressants and he got on testosterone and he said it was like he said he wished you would have known sooner. He said it's the greatest thing ever. He said antidepressants never worked in his life. He got on testosterone. He says whole fucking life changed. But he said, hey, I would not do it if I were you. And he goes, why? He goes, because you then because I'm old. I'm done.
Starting point is 01:20:38 And you know what I mean? And I can do it the rest of my life. He's like, you don't want to do it at 40 or 50 and be, have to do it your whole life. Does anything turn off on women if they do a little bit of testosterone? Do they have any? I mean, yeah. I mean, yes, in the sense that the way that our bodies naturally produce hormones, you know, testosterone,
Starting point is 01:21:07 estrogen, whenever you're taking testosterone, especially testosterone in excess, more than just you know, assuming again, you're prescribed for a medical reason, and you're taking a certain amount. No, for women, there's really not a lot that will go offline. But if women are taking it in excess, and it's's not prescribed and they're not doing it in a manner in which is being monitored by a physician, a lot of times that's where you'll see women start to develop more masculine features because estrogen then goes offline. And can you bring that back online? Again, you can, but it takes a really long time and it requires a lot more medication.
Starting point is 01:21:46 Fuck you with your hormones is scary. It is scary. And that's why, you know, I obviously can never tell people what to do with their bodies, but at least having some kind of care provider on their team, if hormone replacement therapy is something that they're pursuing is highly, highly, highly recommended because you can get a temporary, I mean, aesthetically, you can look good and you, you might have, you know, a perfect body for a couple of years, but the effects of that,
Starting point is 01:22:13 that high dose hormone for the rest of your life can really, can really mess up other, other body parts that we need to function. You'd also think too, if you had things like you were really holding you were really holding on to your sphincter really tight Or just things like that you hadn't done a lot of Work that it would it could taking testosterone could exacerbate those problems Yeah, I mean inherently Pelt the pelvic floor is just another type of muscle There's the same type of muscle tissue as your quads, as your glutes, as your hamstrings.
Starting point is 01:22:48 And so if people are on testosterone, typically, you know, you can't just isolate which muscle groups are going to grow and which muscle groups are going to gain hypertrophy. Because if you already are a tight ass and you're already holding tension in the pelvic floor and then you're on steroids inherently you're just gonna make all of those functions even more problematic and difficult if you have underlying pelvic floor dysfunction issues already Is there is there too is is there too much um, uh, is there a perfect amount to ejaculate is there like too much or not enough I told my in college one time I was running a little experiment where I wasn't going to ejaculate. And so I went two months and I was telling my dad about it. And I kept these weights by my bed and I would work anytime I woke up and I was horny, I would just do a little you know, my theory was is take the blood
Starting point is 01:23:37 out of my penis, right? And I had these two 20 pound dumbbells. And my dad told me use it or lose it. But that's not necessarily true. There's no there's no research out there that says ejaculating, you know, once a day versus once a week versus once a month, is any better or worse. It's, it's, it's more of an issue of function where if you are having sex more often, you know, there is a lot of research that supports that ejaculating regularly can help support prostate health, but in terms of like overall,
Starting point is 01:24:11 like is it better to ejaculate once a week versus once a month? You know, I don't wanna say the jury's out, but there's not much difference. Do you think like as you get older that you should be doing it less, that you should be like, do you think that, what are the values of showing discipline around your ejaculation?
Starting point is 01:24:32 Like to not, you know, having sex every single day. Is there any benefit of that? Like you could think, I mean, obviously there's the motivational benefits. Like Patrick Bedd-David said that he wasn't gonna, he was on the show and he said, he said he wasn't going to have sex or ejaculate until he made a million dollars. And then like a year later, he made a million bucks.
Starting point is 01:24:53 So you know what I mean? Like it was like, I mean, that's just strictly, like if you told yourself, hey, I can drink a cup of coffee or eat a donut after I run 10 miles, that kind. But is there any physiological benefits? No, there's uh, benefits? No, like, no, none at all, especially as you get older.
Starting point is 01:25:13 Because then you see it in a lot of like, um, uh, you know, like, uh, Eastern books, they'll say that like, Hey, you shouldn't be, you should. It's your, um, life, life energy, your life source. You know, I even remember I was, when I was reading Gandhi's autobiography, It's your life energy, your life source. I even remember when I was reading Gandhi's autobiography, he's like, yeah, these are the seeds. I mean, these are the seeds that create life. Why would you wanna spill them on the floor? But you've never seen any evidence of that.
Starting point is 01:25:39 Like your back squat, if you don't jack off, if you don't masturbate or you don't ejaculate for 10 days, your back squat, everyone puts five pounds on their back squat if you don't jack off if you don't masturbate or you don't ejaculate for 10 days your back squat everyone puts five pounds on their back squat. I always tell myself to make myself feel better that all the guys that I see that are good athletes they don't ejaculate that's the price they pay. I mean I completely made it up. That's what you have to tell yourself but yeah that's that's that's what you have to tell yourself. But there's any my line of work. No, there's no evidence to support that. All right, so Jeffrey says, so it's bullshit.
Starting point is 01:26:12 I mean, I didn't say that, but. Lance, when I used to do the show the first year or two, I always, like I couldn't make it through 90 minutes without peeing. Like I was always had to pee. It was fucking crazy and All I did was I stopped drinking six to ten sparkling waters a day
Starting point is 01:26:34 And I stopped drinking a pint of water in the morning. I drink mine now. I drink my I dilute in a pint of water I dilute One shot of espresso and I drink that during the show. And then I have a pint of water after the show. Um, but all I had to do was stop drinking. It's the same thing with like peeing in the middle of the night. All I do is be like, okay, it's like an hour before bedtime. And sometimes I still drink it. Like, I don't care if I wake up in the middle of the night.
Starting point is 01:26:58 Is that the problem for most people that are just drinking too many liquids? It's not necessarily too many liquids. It's just the type of liquid. There are substances out there called bladder irritants that the chemical makeup of the substance that you're consuming is just irritates the lining of the bladder. And so it constantly sends a signal to your brain, like, get this out of me.
Starting point is 01:27:17 And so sparkling water is a huge bladder irritant. Caffeinated beverages, caffeine inherently itself is a bladder irritant, coffee espresso is a bladder irritant, cough, um, liquor, wine, beer, seltzers are all bladder irritants. And so typically really the only thing that isn't a bladder irritant is water because acidic, acidic juices, fruit't a bladder irritant is water because acidic acidic juices fruit juices are bladder irritants. Even certain types of like chocolate can irritate the bladder and and so whenever I'm that's one of the issues that people come in to see me for is urinary urgency
Starting point is 01:27:57 or frequency or waking up in the middle of night to pee. A lot of times it's just people don't realize that the things that they're consuming are the reason behind their urinary symptoms. And so it's just behavioral strategies and bladder retraining strategies to help with those types of symptoms. But yeah, six sparkling waters would, if that was, if you were a new patient and you told me that that's what you're drinking and you, that you could make it 90 minutes without peeing and be like, we'll stop drinking the sparkling waters.
Starting point is 01:28:26 So switch to regular water. Same thing with the coffee in the morning. If that is something that I mean, we know that coffee and caffeine are bladder irritants. And so typically, I'll tell people if your morning coffee is something that you cannot give up, sandwich it with water, you know, dilute it, have a glass of water beforehand, have your coffee, have a glass of water afterwards. And the least concentrated we can make the bladder with whatever substance you've just consumed typically will help with those urgency symptoms. Yeah, I drink this is paper street coffee. It's one of my sponsors. When I drink this is paper street coffee. It's one of my sponsors when I drink this It doesn't I do not have to go to that
Starting point is 01:29:06 I'd never get the urgency But if I if I go to Starbucks and I ordered a cup of coffee there with some heavy cream like I have to pee like in Less than an hour every single time and it's urgent. It's not like this like no normally It's like okay. I have to go to the bathroom. I got an hour window or whatever. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's like urgent another drink fit aid who's been a sponsor before do you know that beverage? That beverage too. That's like it's quick. It's like 30 minutes. I drink that and I'm like I got a pee How long does it how long does it take? But if I drink a cup of water?
Starting point is 01:29:40 How long does it take before it's sitting in my bladder? I feel like it's like 15 minutes or something Is it that fast? It can be, it just kind of depends on the substance that you're drinking, but the filtration rate in which our kidneys go through is different for everybody. So the amount that, or the rate at which it takes 12 ounces to filter through your kidneys and into your bladder is gonna be different than mine.
Starting point is 01:30:05 But the normal like voiding pattern for healthy adults is every two to four hours. We should be able to hold our voids between two and four hours. More than that, we would consider that like urinary urgency if it's happening consistently throughout the day. And if it's happening less than four hours, you're probably dehydrated but two to four hours is What we look for whenever we're like I'm doing like bladder retraining with people
Starting point is 01:30:35 Yeah, it's gone ever since I stopped that Unless I drink a Starbucks or unless I drink a fit aid. It's gone to you're right It's gone to like four hours and I can drink just yeah It's gone to four hours and I could just drink like two like four hours. And I can drink just, yeah, it's gone to four hours. And I could just drink like two pints of water before I work out and still not have to pee. All right. Well, hey, thanks for all the, thanks for all the information.
Starting point is 01:30:55 That was great. It's great having you on. Yeah, I think. Thanks for having me. Yeah. All right. Well, I'll give you a break and then have you back on a little bit with another two hours of questions.
Starting point is 01:31:05 I don't know about that. I'm going to have to start charging you. All right, Dr. Lance, I appreciate you, brother. Yeah, no problem. Good to see you again. All right. Have a good day. See you. You too. Bye. Yeah, that was awkward. I agree. Yeah, it was. Yeah. All right. Show about the pelvic Yeah, it was. Yeah. All right. Show about the pelvic floor, the penis.
Starting point is 01:31:35 Ah. Did I keep him too long, you think? You think that, do we crest over a point? Oh, he's not coming back? Yeah, what happened? You think you think that I do we crest over a point? Oh, he's not coming back. Yeah, what happened? You think something happened? I Don't know I didn't get to talk about the Fitbit for the dick I Thought it was I thought it was great. This was a long segment on schlong's. Yeah, it's just the schlong show I don't think he got to talk you think I was talking too much
Starting point is 01:32:23 Uh Well, uh well prepared telling a story about you touching tits for 20 minutes. Really the tit touching story was too long? It was a build up to the blue balls. What are you talking about? Oh, the Vax talk fucked him up? You should have stopped 30 minutes ago. Woo. Wow. All right. ago whoo wow all right oh he shook his head a lot wow normally we don't critique
Starting point is 01:32:53 the shows directly after they happen holy shit any cigarette Most important takeaway for me was a frequent ejaculation cuts down on the chance of prostate cancer. Listen up, wives. You guys want to hear about my Pilates experience? My Pilates. Oh, wait, hold on. Jake Chapman, when you told him things going in the arse was wrong, hold on. Jake Chapman. When you told him things going in the arse was wrong,
Starting point is 01:33:28 that's when you lost him. I don't know, I think he kind of agreed with me. No, please tell me about the Pilates experiment. Okay. But does it increase throat cancer for women? Oh, you mean like if you put it in the dumper and then in the mouth? I was, I did have some questions about oral. So I went to Pilates in my underwear. I wore long johns and then just shorts over them.
Starting point is 01:34:13 And then I wore a shirt and I wore a sweatshirt. And all the dudes in there had their shirts off. Come on, man, he had fun. Lance had fun. That was great. That was a great discussion. I Know I don't think he was having fun either at some point at some point. I felt the energy drop Maybe I should have let him go then I was in denial
Starting point is 01:34:33 Some point I felt the energy drop I was wearing some born primitive shorts These ones that I that are like by themselves. I've never worn them before, they sent them to me. I'm like, how the fuck does anyone wear these? Like my dick would fall out the fall out of them or something. They're just kind of like loose and shit. They have no built-in underwear or anything. They're almost like tennis shirts. Anyway, I wore long johns that I always wear for every show and always wear for every show and
Starting point is 01:35:12 and then there's shorts over it and then I wore shirt and then I wore my Pedro coffee pods and what no no no I wore the shirt Matt Torres gave me I've never worn it before long-sleeve brute shirt so two layers at the bottom two layers at the bottom, two layers at the top. I wore my old man Keen sandals there. I walked in and Oh first, first I told my wife I'm gonna use the bathroom first and I went to the bathroom. I didn't really have to go. But I just went in the bathroom. Made myself go. Washed my hands.
Starting point is 01:35:44 And when I came out she said, Oh, I already have our mats set up. And she had the mat set up. And she said, I hope that's an okay place. And it seemed like a great place to me. So I get on the mat and I get on my mat and right in front of me are these, there's right in front of me there's a woman
Starting point is 01:36:10 and then next to her there's two women. So just right in front of me, like where I'm, the direction I'm facing are these three women. And all of them have giant fake tits and clothes that are so fucking tight that their pants are going up their ass. And I'm like, wow.
Starting point is 01:36:29 And then the class started and I didn't see those girls. And then I was so fucking focused on staying alive and not dying. I didn't notice those women ever again. I think once or twice I saw, maybe I looked at those women and saw their boobs falling out of their tops. But it's basically, it's like what I, it's like what I said to Lance. It's basically, it's, it's, it's 80% hot ladies, even the ugly ladies that are in there are attractive. And, and 20% dudes with their shirts off. And I had this sort of like protocol. I brought water in there and I told myself, hey, you don't normally drink water when you work out, but bring water in there. So I told myself that I would, if I needed to, I would drink water. And if I needed to, I would take off my sweatshirt or that shirt that Matt Torres gave me. But I would never leave the room because some people,
Starting point is 01:37:22 because it gets so hot in there, some people leave the room. I people because it gets so hot in there some people leave the room I mean it gets really really hot in there. And so I Drank all my water, which was crazy when I finished my last sip of water. I'm like, I can't believe There was what's better under puss or side boot under puss. I Don't know what under puss is there was just boobs everywhere And my wife was right next to me boobs everywhere. And my wife was right next to me. So I was, I spent probably 90% of the class watching her, to be honest, because they would have you do these movements. And it was so loud in there. I couldn't, I couldn't hear the instructor, what the instructor was saying. But basically, I told myself, no matter what, don't leave the room. Just suck it up. If you
Starting point is 01:37:59 have to rest, rest. And I rested a lot. Like, I did 20, every two minutes I rested for 10 seconds, and the class is just going. There's no rest in it. So, like, I'm resting, like, every two minutes I'm resting for 10 seconds. Just putting my hands on my knees or stopping what I'm doing if we're standing and just stand in one place. And so I drank all the water, and then with about 20 minutes left in the class, I took off my, shirt, that long sleeve shirt I was wearing. And I didn't feel any cooler. It didn't even make a difference.
Starting point is 01:38:30 That's how hot it was in the room. I was like, well, that that was pointless. I took that off and it was pointless. And then three times during the class, the teacher opened a door that went to the outside world, you know, like to the parking lot and let in cool air, which was awesome. And I absolutely loved the class. And if you haven't done hot pilates, I can't, I, I was so planned on not liking it and, uh, I loved it.
Starting point is 01:38:54 I absolutely fucking loved it. I would definitely do it again. If you'd asked me yesterday, if I would do it again, I'd say no. But like when I woke up this morning, I was like, yeah, I'd do that again. It's really hard. I, and I highly recommend it. If you've never done hot pilates and you don't do it you're missing out. It just is it just is what it is you're totally missing out. Seve hasn't gone out of zone two during a workout since Vietnam.
Starting point is 01:39:23 Most of the guys I think every guy, I didn't see one guy in there wearing a shirt besides, oh no, no, no, there was one guy in there. There was one guy in there wearing a shirt besides me. Every other guy was shirtless. Even the old ladies in there were hot. There was like this, there was like this old fat lady. When I say old, I mean my age, like,
Starting point is 01:39:48 and I, when we went in there, she was a five. And when we left, she was at eight. I told my wife, I was like, fuck, everyone just got like, the attractive people got even more attracted by the time the class was over. It was crazy. Oh, you would love it. It is so cool. It is so cool, Marissa. You will love it. Um, there, there, there were a few times where I was like... There was a few times where I was like... Especially towards the end of class, I was like... Even though I'm not hurting, I should probably slow down because I'm so unfamiliar with working out
Starting point is 01:40:23 when it's 120 degrees in the room or whatever it was. Because it is a very, very unfamiliar landscape. And so I was like, God, it would suck if something like I just overshot, you know? There were two moments in the class. There was a moment in the class where we did burpees one time and where we there was twice where we did jumping jacks and those were my favorite parts because I could actually rest because I'm just fucking amazing at those movements and I just did like I don't know what during the burpee thing I just did just ten really slow strict explosive burpees. But I was just, the rest of this shit is just so out of my practice.
Starting point is 01:41:14 So, and I'm not sore today. I'm not really sore, which is a trip. I'm surprised I'm not sore. There was a lot of squatting, a lot of squatting, a lot of squatting. I did not squatting, a lot of squatting. I did not. That's funny. My wife asked me, I did not. I did not bathe after class. We came home and my wife immediately took a shower and I did not.
Starting point is 01:41:36 I changed out of my just sopping wet clothes. I put on clothes and I took my kids to the beach. I did not. And I never even showered before I went to bed. Nothing. But kids to the beach. I did not, and I never even showered before I went to bed, nothing. But after the beach, I came home, and I just didn't move. I just basically sat on the couch.
Starting point is 01:41:54 I never sit on the couch. I just sat on the couch. I was so, I was so tired. I probably drank 10 pints of water yesterday. Yeah, Hayley took a shower as soon as we got home. And she asked me either last, I think last night she asked me or this morning. Sometimes she asked me, she's like, did you bathe last night? I was like, no, she's like, I don't know how you do that. Dude, honestly though, you must kind of smell at night. No, I don't, I hardly ever smell.
Starting point is 01:42:27 I'm so clean. So I could ask my wife. I could ask her, did I smell last night? I'll ask her. She likes the way I smell this. Or she used to. I think she kind of got over it a little bit. Wow, my phone works without even rebooting it. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:43:02 Hello? Hey, did you watch that show? What show? What show? The show I just did. Oh, I was just listening to it now. Do you think I was talking? I actually have to vacuum. Do you think I was talking?
Starting point is 01:43:13 You have to what? Vacuum? Yeah. Okay, let me ask you two questions. Do you think I was talking too much? No, not that I saw so far. I literally just started it. Oh, well then you would know
Starting point is 01:43:25 Why is that like the feedback you're getting it was just something got weird with the energy at the end? I'm not sure what happened at the end. Yeah. Oh Hmm I'll look for that and get back to you. Okay, and then at the end I said hey Well, I look forward to having you back on he goes. I'm gonna have to start charging you Okay, and then at the end I said hey well I look forward to having you back on he goes I'm gonna have to start charging you He did yeah, I think he was joking. I don't know it was just it was just something Yeah, something was just a little weird the last 20 or 30 minutes the show anyway hey
Starting point is 01:43:57 Maybe because he's giving all this invaluable information doesn't wanna Give it away. I talked about like stuff not shouldn't really go in your butt and he told me he was gay and I was like, you know, I told him when someone stuck a finger in my butt, it felt like I had to poop. I don't know. Maybe that was, I don't think, I think it was cool. I think he's open minded. He's fine with people not wanting.
Starting point is 01:44:17 I mean, he's so the next. Right. Okay. Anyway, really quick. Did I smell last night? Because I didn't shower after Pilates. Anyway, um, uh, uh, uh, really quick. Um, did, did I smell last night? Cause I didn't shower after Pilates. No, you actually didn't surprisingly. Cause I read Dr. Plush. Oh, you never smell.
Starting point is 01:44:34 I have to shower. You did not smell. Yes, I do. Okay. All right. I love you. Bye. Love you too.
Starting point is 01:44:42 Bye. How's your pelvic floor? See, there you go. Oh. Oh, shit. Tomorrow's show, I'm guessing is going to be way different with Katie on. I'm going to write something to him now. Um, uh, thank you. Thank you, Lance. There, how's that? That good? He lost me when he said there shouldn't be discomfort sticking things in your butt. No, I don't think he said that.
Starting point is 01:45:52 I don't think he said there shouldn't be. I think he just said if you weren't used to it, that would be the normal response. I thought he was... Was I not listening well? Oh, Pat, this is really bothering you. Yes. Exceedingly. Oh, yes, he did.
Starting point is 01:46:20 He did. He did say he said he's he lost me when he said there shouldn't be discomfort sticking things in your butt. Oh, he did say that? I wish you would have asked him about shockwave therapy. I'm not even sure I know what shockwave therapy is. Oh, I like the biology. Oh, shit. I should have never gone into figuring out if it was a good show. Here we go. Part two, finding out if the first half of the show was any good. Endless content. Okay. What am I doing I go to drafts Live call-in notes
Starting point is 01:47:19 Uh, okay, let's try this Speaking of carrying the show let's let Instagram carry the show. To my friends in the Democratic Party, this is not Joe Biden's fault. It's not Kamala Harris' fault. It's not Barack Obama's fault. Is the fault of the Democratic Party in not knowing how to communicate effectively to voters. We are not the party of common sense, which is what the message that voters sent to us. So she just conflated two ideas, right? They don't know how to communicate and we're not the party of common sense. Those are completely two different ideas that she's trying to smash into one.
Starting point is 01:48:06 common sense. Those are completely two different ideas that she's trying to smash into one. You guys, you don't know how to communicate because Kamala would never say actually anything. She would never, you'd be like, is it going to rain today? And she's like, rain is water. Water is wet. Wet is when water gets on you. We love water. And it's just, you're just like, what the fuck did she just say? Like what? I just want to know if it's going to rain today. But when we did hear their message, when we did hear their message, it was like set criminals free, illegal aliens that are rapists. It's okay. This is a sanctuary city for them. And is down and chopping the penis off of your little boys without your consent is fine. So when we did. So there's two different things there.
Starting point is 01:48:57 Not only could she not communicate, but when they did communicate, it was completely fucking. Yes, it was completely off the reservation. Thank you, Pat. Yeah, there's completely insane. For a number of reasons, for a number of reasons, we don't know how to speak to voters. When we address Latina and language, listen, language has meaning. When we address Latino voters, here's my point. Here it is. Here it comes. Latin X, for instance, because that's the politically correct thing to do. It makes them think that we don't even live on the same planet as they do.
Starting point is 01:49:30 Yeah, when you want to chop the penises off of little boys without their parents knowing, let alone with them knowing, there shouldn't even be like either one is fucking complete batshit insanity. And then when you call Mexicans Latin X, like what the fuck planet are you on? When we are too afraid to say that hey college kids if you're trashing a campus at Columbia University Because you aren't happy about some sort of policy and you're taking over a university
Starting point is 01:49:56 And you're trashing it and preventing other students from learning that that is unacceptable, but we're so worried about alienating one or another cohort in our cohort. Oh shit, sorry, we're taking a break. I just thought of something. I've never seen a micropenis clinically, but you've, but you have seen one. Okay. Yeah, I will say this. When I did mention that the algae, okay, that's a great. Thank you, Cory. When I brought up the Algerian boxer, we disconnected for a second. We disconnected for a second. I am not going to ask Katie if Stoltman does gang bangs.
Starting point is 01:50:42 I will push up against that subject tomorrow just very gently just so Katie can have opportunity to slap me down. But that's it. Yeah, the micro penis thing. I don't think he minded the micro penis thing. But when I said that the Algerian boxer was actually a dude, I don't think he liked that. I felt I felt I mean, I mean, I'm just speculating So
Starting point is 01:51:13 Pat Lang there has been not one child in US history who has had his penis chipped off Oh, I like that dude. That's really indicative of the line of work. You in. Like chippers. I like that. Nice. That's nice. That's poetic. There's not been one child in US history who's had his penis chipped off and parental knowledge. Oh, without parental knowledge. That's funny. You gotta stop. You sound like Trump saying schools are doing surgery. You gotta stop. You sound like Trump saying schools are doing surgery. God, you're funny. I do like the fact that you used in some of the lingo from your own profession into it, because it works. But are you saying without parents?
Starting point is 01:51:56 Dude, it's irregardless, as they say in the hood, as my brothers say. It doesn't matter. Regardless of whether it's known with parents or not parents, it doesn't matter. Listen, listen, it doesn't matter if they killed three million Jews or one million Jews in the ovens. Do you understand that? It doesn't matter if they chopped off penises with or without parent consent. It does, like the, the nuances that you fall into, you people who are worried about whether the thief was in a red Ferrari or red
Starting point is 01:52:27 Lamborghini or it's it's just bat shit crazy like fine you win cool. Okay fine It wasn't done without the parents knowledge great But but we know that they've been given testosterone blockers and medications without parents knowledge We know that parents have been taken away from their kids for not abiding by the proper pronouns, all that stuff. I mean, listen, the spirit of what I'm saying is spot on. If a Haitian, I looked it up the other day online the other day, if you eat three cats,
Starting point is 01:53:02 that's equivalent to one dog. And the Haitians had eaten 37 cats, so you divide three into 37 and you get that they've eaten 12 dogs. I mean, come on, dude. Hey, how, no one in their right mind thinks that in the principal's office you're getting your penis chopped off.
Starting point is 01:53:21 But let me tell you something, what is happening in schools. What's happening in schools is the funnel system that's getting kids to chop off. But let me tell you something, what is happening in schools. What's happening in schools is the funnel system that's getting kids to chop off their penises and to chop their tits off. That's happening in the schools, openly and supportively. There's surgeries that are being used to help to facilitate psychiatric issues the same way lobotomies were used.
Starting point is 01:53:42 It's bat shit crazy. Fine, you win. No penis was ever chopped off in Mr. Johnson's principal's office. You're right, you win. I lied. I'm sorry. David, we pat but half the chat believes everything Sevan says and David the whole chat knows you've never said anything. So you're 100%. I'm only 50%. You're 100%.
Starting point is 01:54:13 Coalition that we don't know what to say when normal people look at that and say, wait a second, I send my kids to college so they can learn, not so that they can burn buildings and trash lawns, right? And so on and so forth. When we put pronouns after names and say she, her, as opposed to saying, you know what, if I call you by the wrong pronoun, call me out, I'm sorry, I won't do it again,
Starting point is 01:54:34 but stop with the virtue signaling and just speak to people like they're normal. There's nothing I'm going to say to Sher Michael that I'm not gonna say to you, that I'm not gonna say to somebody else. I speak the same language to everybody, but that's not what Democrats do. We constantly try to parse out different ways of speaking to different cohorts because our focus groups or our polling shows that so-and-so appeals to such-and-such. That's not how normal people think. It's not common sense.
Starting point is 01:54:59 And we need to start being the party of common sense again. Joe Biden is not responsible for that. Neither is Kamala Harris. It is a problem that Democrats have had for years. I've been banging the drum on this for I don't know how probably 10 years, if not longer on this. We need to get back to being the party of common sense that people look at us and say, we understand you, we appreciate what you say because that's why they don't communicate because they because there is no common sense That's why that's why that's why they don't communicate because they know there's no common sense Josh Cedar the other day explained it perfectly You speak our language and until we do that. We should stop blaming other people for our own mistakes
Starting point is 01:55:43 Should never fucking be blaming other people for our own mistakes. Should never fucking be blaming other people. Yeah, that was crazy, right? Cher Michael. Is that Cher Michael, James? Is that the black dude who is up there? Cher Michael? Sure, Michael. Patrick Lang, the laws regarding not disclosing to parents are crazy. I agree. That shit fucking crazy. Hey dude, it's not even not disclosing, dude. If I were you, I would say it like this. That's not true.
Starting point is 01:56:28 You're not even what you're saying isn't even true, Pat. It's not even true. You sound like a deranged Trump follower. It's not even true. No, no, sorry. You sound like a fucking libtard, Pat. Hey, not disclosing it. They're actively blocking it.
Starting point is 01:56:42 If you live in California, when your child turns 12, they send you a fucking letter letting you know you have no longer have full access to their medical records, dude That's not that's not just not disclosing it if you're one who wants to be picky on semantics On the actual details on the actual details. They're going out of their, it's not that just they're disclosing it, they're going out of their way to block you from it. Well thank you, Kevin. That's very common sense.
Starting point is 01:57:21 Schools should have nothing to do with this BS, plain and simple. Yeah, I agree. Schools or doctors? I had a bunch of chopping penis questions for him, but you know what? It's crazy. Maybe I did intuitively realize that it was going weird because I didn't ask him those questions. I need someone who can just really just open up about the dick. This is the kind of bat shit crazy shit they were saying. This is the part that is no common sense.
Starting point is 01:58:01 New York Times writer blames partisan politics in promoting lab leak cover-ups. So now we now the the premier theory on both sides whatever you are conservative, libertarian, Democrat, whatever the the popular belief is that it was a lab leak right? And they called it they called it a conspiracy theory, but it gets worse than that. Who cares if they called it a conspiracy theory? Listen to this. Listen to this line this New York Give me a second. Give me a second. Here it is. Ready?
Starting point is 01:58:57 New York Times. After all, back in 2021, the Times lead COVID reporter, Apurva Mandavelli, not only dismissed the possibility the bug escaped from the Wuhan lab, but suggested such claims were racist. She wrote, or he wrote, I don't know if it's a man or a woman, someday we will stop talking about the lab leak theory and maybe even admit its racist roots. You guys know the story of, you know, the worst part about being a thief is your whole life all you see is wallets and purses. That's what it is. The entire left has to put everything into those two categories, racist or sexist. That's it. That's all they got. Just two buckets. Imagine how retarded it is to live in that world. I was curious if he supported the trans movement too.
Starting point is 01:59:57 I was trying to feel if he wanted to just shoot the shit or if he was just coming on just as a subject matter expert. Like, you know what I mean? Like if it was okay to on just as a as a subject matter expert like you know what I mean like if it was okay to swerve off the path Seb's my Coaches at the Norwood field hockey they lost 1-0 in the state final the other team was the only goal scored by a fucking boy Madness those poor girls. Oh, that is crazy, dude. How old are they? How old are those kids?
Starting point is 02:00:34 My sister has a real- my boy- when my boys fight Jiu-Jitsu, the boys and girls are mixed together and my- my sister has real problems with my boys fighting girls. my sister has real problems with my boys fighting girls. It's interesting. Let's reverse it and say the school finds out your kid is allergic to peanuts and they don't tell you and you can't see the records. You give your kid peanut butter and they die is the school liable that's a fucking great question David weed your sister is right you think it I think my sister doesn't like it because she doesn't like the fact that the kids like because they're in they're basically in the fucking position you
Starting point is 02:01:30 know a lot of the time you know when you're in clothes guard you're in the I think that's why my sister doesn't like it I was thinking that I didn't like it because I just didn't think it was good practice for them to be in in that kind of physical confrontation with women. Physical confrontation. One of my boys, Ari, my seven-year-old, my youngest, who just beat everyone's ass again in the three tournaments in a row, in Giyanogi, fucking rock star stud.
Starting point is 02:02:01 He basically told me he doesn't like to fight the girls because Afterwards they don't they won't talk to you. I Thought that was I thought that was cool Like he doesn't care if the boys don't talk to him, but if the girls don't talk to him That's no good So I'm trying to get this lady on the show. Her Instagram is Melissa in California.
Starting point is 02:02:29 She has so, she has so many interesting things to say. Little, little interesting data points. Here's one about P Diddy's. So P Diddy's bouncers, bodyguard security team was the same security team that Was it Epstein had that someone had I'll remember in a second, but it's a trip. It's a trip Here we go. He's the land out there. Guess who owns that? It's right where the border wall ends. Who? P. Diddy's head of security.
Starting point is 02:03:10 What's your Sunset Foundation? They're out of Los Angeles County, my Compton area. They work with kids, like inner city kids, where our local San Diego media reported that this actual parcel is owned by Fahim Mohammed. And he's featured in the Rodney Jones lawsuit as someone who can make people and problems disappear. People working with kids from Los Angeles County owns border property because it feels very detached.
Starting point is 02:03:39 It's super far away. Corey tell you, this is where the cartels are directing people to cross illegally. Our border fence ends at the boulders. Yes. And there's a gap where you can just crawl through. Yes. Like you're on a hike, right? No big deal. And globally, in at least two different countries he's identified, they are giving the coordinates of that parcel and telling people to cross through. I'll find another clip where it gets even a little more detailed. But basically the implication there is that this guy,
Starting point is 02:04:12 Fahim and this other guy own property right on the border with Mexico and the United States. And that these were the guys that run security for P Diddy I need to get this lady on the show. I keep bugging her Let me see if I can find the other clip there was another great clip in there that goes with that one Oh, I wanted to ask him if I wanted to ask him if he thought RFK was good for penis health I can't find the clip We talked about Oprah's boobs already.
Starting point is 02:05:31 Right here you have an American socket, Canadian American. Over the hill you have a Chinese socket, oh so good. Right here you have an American socket, Canadian American. Over the hill you have a Chinese socket, oh so good. Right here you have an American socket. Canadian American. Over the hill you have a Chinese socket. Oh, so good. Oh, when do we get a vaginal doctor on?
Starting point is 02:05:56 I don't know. He was kind of a vagina. I mean, he was just pelvic floor all together Right here you have a Chinese socket It did look like a Chinese socket You guys want to meet our Attorney General, Matt Gaetz? I wonder if he's going to get, he's going to pass the rigor and get the, what's it called, the nomination, get passed through, what's it called? The nomination? Get passed through, what's it called? The hearings that actually the approval from the Senate? Matt Gaetz.
Starting point is 02:06:53 Asked him about his comments. Is it safe to say that based off of your comments, you're suggesting that these women at these abortion rallies are ugly and overweight? Yes. What do you say to people who think that those comments are offensive? Be offended. And asked him about his comments. The Senate confirmation. Brianna, Matt Gaetz is a sicko. and asked him the Senate confirmation the Brianna Matt Gaetz is a sicko. I was looking in I was read like ten articles maybe more I was trying to search for anything I could on Matt Gaetz's charges for sex trafficking and having sex with a minor and
Starting point is 02:07:41 The story goes That there was a guy in Florida who wanted some laws passed around the legalization of something having to do with marijuana, the chronic, weed, bud, herb. And he took Gates and another guy on a meeting. He did a meeting with them. And this meeting involved trips to some island like Aruba or somewhere. I don't know where the fuck they went. In Florida. And the accusation is, is that he took them out on this boat and he took them to this island or something or another and he brought girls along and the girls were told to have sex with Gates and this other guy and it was part of the meeting. You know what I mean? Like wine him, dine him, 69 him.
Starting point is 02:08:40 And one of the girls was 17 years old. The sex trafficking comes with the fact that and the girls were paid by this this guy who wanted help getting a law passed in Florida was paid for them. And they were supposedly told supposedly it's all accusations. There's no there's no proof. We don't know who the fucking girls were. I think this happened in 2017. And supposedly, so an investigation opened up, it lasted two or three years, and they have the testimony and the deposition from these girls, and one of
Starting point is 02:09:15 the guys has been found guilty. And Gates maintained his innocence and said he had nothing to do with it, and then I guess they didn't have enough evidence to prosecute him or it went away I don't I don't know what happened, but for some reason it's gone away But those depositions from those girls have never been released So all you have are these ten articles that are just crazy vague And vague and um and and and it feels like just a witch hunt you can't actually find anything you can't find any evidence and so you may say he's a creep or you may say don't go defending this scumbag, he's a loser.
Starting point is 02:10:05 But I mean, how can you not? How can you not? When you've seen so much of the propaganda from the media, just assume that it was the and it was while the left was control, it was controlling the media machine. How can you not be like, yeah, it's just more bullshit on their part. I don't know. Pat Lang, they had plenty of evidence. They had shitty witnesses and drug addicts. If Gates is a pedophile, then why aren't the other
Starting point is 02:10:39 pedos in Congress friends with them? Well, that's a good question. It has nothing to do with his charges. I worked somewhere and he came to a conference and I know young women who had very horrible experiences with them. And by young I mean young. I believe Brianna. I also think that it's probably accurate to say that most of the women at abortion rallies are fat and ugly too. Definitely ugly. But you know what's kind of unfair about that is most people are fat and ugly. But you know what? You know what's kind of unfair about that is most people are fat and ugly.
Starting point is 02:11:48 75% of the country's fat and ugly. So I mean, what are you gonna do? I mean, it's kind of like a blanket statement. It's almost to the point we're saying that they're just human. It's gonna be a moot point. He's not going to get appointed anyway. It's gonna be a moot point. He's not going to get appointed anyway Wow, you can say allegedly but Charlie Kirk never invited him back to the conference after that I don't like Matt Gaetz's face. I Will say that I just don't like his face for whatever reason. I can't stand his face.
Starting point is 02:12:41 At all. Democrats are upset right now with Trump winning and you guys are saying that you guys want to move to Canada. Well, we're two Canadians, but we're living in Texas right now. And so we thought we should actually come up with a solution for that because I would give a kidney to have a United States citizenship. Like we're on visas right now, they expire in five years. But to the Democrats that actually want to move to Canada to a slow moving communist, a crab hole that is under Justin Trudeau's like rule for the last nine years,
Starting point is 02:13:18 and even his own party wants him out of the liberal caucus because he's an absolute tyrant and ruining the country. We are willing to trade our Canadian passports for your American passports. So if you guys want to do like I don't know a marriage in Canada you guys will get Canadian citizenships and then we'll get American citizenships. I mean like I don't know I don't know if you can donate like organs for a citizenship but like my blood type is AB I don't know if it's positive or negative I know it's AB but like if anyone needs a kidney in like exchange for a passport I'm totally down what about you? You do not want to go to Canada. Dick Butter sorry I just got here Brianna but wasn't Matt Gaetz streaming in the car with Charlie Kirk like four days ago? Oh, is that what it is? Gates does Botox? Geez, I don't like him already. God, I was looking into the Liz Cheney shit too.
Starting point is 02:14:06 I don't like him. I don't like him. I don't like him. I don't like him. I don't like him. I don't like him. I don't like him. I don't like him.
Starting point is 02:14:22 I don't like him. I don't like him. I don't like him already. God, I was looking into the Liz Cheney shit too. Talk about some fucking meddling. All right. Oh, here it is. Here it is. Here it is. Oh man. I don't know if I'm going to do that one right now.
Starting point is 02:14:58 Best country in the world, damn straight. Unless you like mountain bike riding in Portugal. All right, I'm done. Thanks for putting up with me today. What's today, Monday? I'll see you guys tomorrow morning. Talk to you guys soon. Bye bye.

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