The Sevan Podcast - EAST Semifinals | 2024 CrossFit Games Update Show | Who's Gonna Qualify?

Episode Date: May 31, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:37 Behind door number three is amazing deals. Shop deals on electronics, home, and more this Prime Day. 500 bucks, 100 people. Bam, we're live. Welcome to the show. Where's Caleb? Where's John? Is John coming?
Starting point is 00:00:54 I thought John was coming. I thought John was coming too. Man, do I look tan or what? Jesus. Is that what you call it? John Young in the house. Tyler Watkins from the heat one out app. Heat one app.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Uh, Jr. Howell from crash crucible, crash crescendo and CrossFit crash and father to Taylor self and Jason Hopper amongst others. Uh, John Young in the house. Hey,
Starting point is 00:01:21 a great interview. The little bits I saw of, uh, that girl who competed at um crash is it lydia fish yeah yeah interview what a cool chick i just i probably watched like 10 minutes of it that's a cool chick isn't it weird she's like she's young and she like 18 or 19 very young yeah like maybe 20 yeah oh i like the way she speaks her cadence her voice her eye contact all of it i was i was digging her
Starting point is 00:01:48 yeah she was uh she was delightful to have around in october she was really cool jim how close is she to you not close i want to say she lives in like minnesota but she i mean she came to christmas to compete yeah did she say i was tripping did she say she showed up to where do you live charlotte spartansburg spartanburg spartanburg yeah it's about an hour south of charlotte did she say she showed up there a month early no i didn't get a chance to listen to it and i apologize if it's not minnesota maybe wisconsin but it's she lives in she lives in, Alpharetta now she lives. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:28 But did she come a month early? I thought she said something like she came there early to prepare. She may have been, no, no, she wasn't in South Carolina. She may have been in Atlanta for a month leading up to it to prepare. Caleb. Hi.
Starting point is 00:02:41 That's nice. Okay. Uh, that's cool. I didn't realize I thought just any, that's pretty impressive that people prepare for the crucible. The qualifying event for the supermatch in Scottsdale, Arizona. I to take our time here today. Something I'd like to look at because we didn't know who Ibarra was and we didn't know much about Hattie Cano this last weekend. So one of the things I'd like to do is if we come across anyone, I'm going to start digging to see how many semifinals.
Starting point is 00:03:18 I'll just start with this since I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. John, I'll ask you this first. What's the key indicator? Like Hattie Cano, that was her third semif this first what's the key indicator like uh haddie canyo that was her third semi-final what's a key indicator by the way guys the discussion today is about the event that's going to happen this weekend in knoxville it's called syndicate send the syndicate crown it's also called the northeast crossfit semi-final uh 10 men and 10 women? I think it's 11. It's 11-11.
Starting point is 00:03:47 11 men and 11 women will be going to the CrossFit Games from this event. There'll be 40 men and 40 women, so it's pretty easy to go, right? No. Pretty easy to make it to the games through here. They take 25% of the field. Super easy.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Okay, there we go. Wow wow caleb with the graphics okay so the northeast 11 and 11 uh jr howell will be there uh so will taylor self john are you going i will not be tyler are you going be there tyler will be there uh amongst others uh will brandstetter the creator of just amazing content and patrick rios in charge of the seven podcast behind the scenes don't worry they'll be cutting away uh during every great moment entire thing will be made with the 360 cam it's got potential it just needs a little work so no big deal uh hey will, in that Tetlo video, how come you didn't use captions? Why? Why?
Starting point is 00:04:50 John doesn't know how phone works. So real quick, sorry, before I dig in. Is this the toughest regional? Oh, sorry. I think so. I think it's the deepest for sure. I think it's the toughest on the women's side and the men's side Harder than Europe?
Starting point is 00:05:08 Yeah Harder than Australia? Oceania, but yeah Harder than West Coast? United States? And Canada and West Mexico And so when you say it's harder Is it also harder to predict?
Starting point is 00:05:27 Predict? Once you get past the first five i would say so tyler yes jr yeah it's accurate okay and and would you say that um uh ibarra and haddie canyo were uh surprises 100 only like four people in the world played ibarra one time in the app well winning events and making the top top eights a different thing yes but only like 14 people in the world even put them in their top 12 yeah did you i didn't even play heat one this time i can't i cannot lie but tell me had you ever heard of ibarra i had heard of chris ibarra ibarra yeah let's yeah um so yeah i said a few times lauren khalil can call people whatever the fuck we want sorry go ahead um steven tackett ch Chris Ibarra's coach, had been telling me about Chris since before Crucible last year.
Starting point is 00:06:31 He said, hey, I got a guy that is up and coming, collegiate athlete, started working with him. He's really talented. I want him to come to Crucible. But he's trying to decide between, like, Desert City and Monster Games and Crucible. I just feel like that's a lot of competing. But I want him to come. And he decided trying to decide between like desert city and monster games and crucible i just feel like that's a lot of competing but i want him to come and he decided not to and then kind of after the field was released he wished he would have and steven was here as a member um and he helped me
Starting point is 00:06:57 judge great dude uh he kept working with chris kind of gave me updates on him as the season went on this year. And then when he finished quarterfinals, I think he was in fifth initially, in fifth of North America West. And I remember Pat Vellner coming on your show. I want to say it was when he was talking about all the stuff he had had planned, like all the weddings and all the moving and all that. And you asked him something about the field. And he even mentioned Chris. He said, like, I think there's some new guys that are going to be pretty good. This Chris Ibarra guy, like, finished really high. I don't know much about him, but blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:07:33 And it was really, really brief. But I just remember hearing his name. And then he dropped because of a penalty. And I think in a lot of ways that kind of took a lot of attention off of him because even with four workouts in a field of ways that kind of took a lot of attention off of him because even with four workouts in a field that good where you've got Brent and Justin and Pat and just the who's who to have someone like that finish as high as he did in quarterfinals a lot of people would have been expecting something from him either just to finish bottom 10 because he's only good
Starting point is 00:08:03 in the gym stuff or to qualify for the game. So in a way, and Steven even said this in a way, it may have been a blessing in disguise when he got that penalty and it kind of just took him, um, took some pressure off of him, but the dude's legit, obviously. I mean, to, to, to do those six events and to not get exposed in some way, I thought was really impressive against the field that's about as top-heavy as you can get. Okay. So that being said, let's talk about this real quick. If you go to the quarter, if you go to the semifinals,
Starting point is 00:08:32 and you look at the list and the order that CrossFit gives them to you, are they put in any particular order? No. No, okay. And you look at this guy's open performances. The guy's name is Will Carter. And then you go to individual quarterfinals um he went to the regionals so so okay uh he's only been a team guy in the past
Starting point is 00:08:54 and his quarterfinals are one in uh uh in 2021 is 154 2023 is 4623 And then in 2024, it's 160th. He is the 43rd in North America East. So this is Will Carter right here, the very first guy on the list who's going to be at the event. Is there anything we can glean? I'm assuming none of you guys know who Will Carter is. I don't. You do?
Starting point is 00:09:25 Yeah, Will Carter competed on Move Fast, Lift Heavy's team last year. That's why in 2023 he has such a low finish because he probably didn't even complete individual quarterfinals. He was on Christian Harris' team last year. Wasn't this one of the goofy dudes in Kill Taylor? One of the guys that called in together, him and Joe Piero, called in together for Kill Taylor. Ah, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Okay. So now when you see here, it says 43rd North America East in 2024. Can we say anything about that? Can we just look at that and be like, okay, he's a threat to go? I would say you need to pull up that leaderboard and look at those four workouts and see if something stands out to you. Okay. How high would it have to be before you're like, okay, that's the next Hattie, can you?
Starting point is 00:10:12 Let's look at Matthias Porter. He's next. View his profile. And he's 41st in North America East. Yeah, Matthias is good. He competed at Crucible the year Taylor won and kind of was virtually an unknown.
Starting point is 00:10:33 That was 2022, and he had a really, really good first couple days. I just know his name because he's competed at Crash, and I know he's been involved with TTT for a while now, just whether or not he has a individual programmer or just follows their stuff. But yeah, same deal. Like you see where they finish,
Starting point is 00:10:53 you should go and look at that leaderboard. And then, and what would you glean from the leaderboard? We already know what the workouts are. What would you be looking for in that leaderboard? I would be looking for big holes in a field even like quarterfinals and then i would also be looking for really really high finishes like i would look for top 10 in north america east finishes and i would also look at any workouts that he got like over 100 points you know what this makes me think though so with
Starting point is 00:11:25 chris ibarra right he was way higher on the leaderboard till he took a hit and then then he ended up finishing very high in semifinals and it's like okay so was the pre-hit higher it was higher correlated to the the semifinals you understand what i'm saying so it's like when you look at somebody like matthias porter it's like okay well then they did they take a hit on judging and was that actually more true to their actual performance does that make sense yeah when you when you when you look at all these athletes and you see kind of an outlier score you wonder if that was a penalty score or if it was a capacity score i mean obviously with someone like chris we see now that he demonstrated the capacity for sure and just got step up no rep no reps awarded to him and similarly to how pat did you think if
Starting point is 00:12:18 that would have been biden um who congratulated him from graduating from wherever he was graduating from, he would have posted the picture. Hell no. Thank you, Caleb. Caleb has spoken. John, you know you're muted. Okay. You don't have to mute yourself. My dogs were barking.
Starting point is 00:12:37 I didn't want to. Will Carter, Matthias Porter, top 11? No. Okay. Next on the list is Robert Yates. Let's go to his profile. I know Kiefer was working with him. I'm not sure if he still is.
Starting point is 00:12:55 If he's in the cat. Yeah. So Robert's been to Crucible a couple times to compete. And yeah, I mean, Kiefer speaks highly of him and his improvement. 42nd in North America East. So if he's 42nd in North America East and they only take 40 people, that means two people above him pulled out. Correct. Okay, so these last three guys we picked were the guys who barely made it in.
Starting point is 00:13:19 That's funny to me. The order that you're looking at is based on registration. So these guys were the first to register. But it's hilarious because they were the last to qualify uh 34 years old uh tyler christophal 40 oh fourth no no sorry uh sorry sorry sorry 13th in North America East. Is Robert Yates going, by the way? No. No. Tyler Cristofal. Cristofal.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Cristofal. Cristofal. Cristofal. Like alcohol. 13th in North America East. Is he qualifying? I do not have him qualifying. I think he's always a threat, too.
Starting point is 00:14:06 He'll be in the teens Ben Smith I think he's going to smash workout too He'll be like a top three He won at Because he's such a good squatter What's workout dude with this field I just don't think he's fit enough to be top three In workout too
Starting point is 00:14:23 What's workout, too? We'll see. Five rounds per time, 100 double-unders. You would take him over Roman? 20... 100 double-unders, 20 toes-to-bar, 10 front squats. 100 double-unders, 20 toes-to-bar, 10 front squats. How many rounds?
Starting point is 00:14:39 Five? Five. Okay. Ben Smith. You guys okay going through these like this? Yep. 28 North America East. Any chance?
Starting point is 00:14:53 Nope. I want there to be a chance. I want there to be a chance. John, what other than Father Tom, because you could just say he's old, what workout specifically for someone that well-rounded do you see being an issue? His well-roundedness is going to be like a 10th through a 20th. He's just not fit enough.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Do you have him in the top five? Not father time. If you want me to say father time, I'll say that there's going to be up to 10 guys fitter than him in every single workout. Is Ben Smith's fit enough, but just too slow. Does he come from an era where they weren't racing?
Starting point is 00:15:32 I think they were racing more in his era. Yeah, I think so. Do you believe they were racing more? You agree with John? I don't agree with John. I think they're racing more now. I think that the people there,
Starting point is 00:15:43 the transition, I don't even, I think in his era, the transitions were just like a time to chalk up, take your shirt off, drink water, shit like that. The workouts were written differently, and they always are year to year. But if you look at the flow on the floor and the progression of the events this year and i think to john's point sure you can jog back to the jump rope after you do your front squats
Starting point is 00:16:14 or you can walk back but if you're not fit enough to do a hundred straight and you have to break what was the point so i think what he's saying is back then, oftentimes people like Ben were so far ahead of his time and so much better than people that where those people had to break, he could just go on broken and it wasn't an issue. Is that kind of what you're getting at, John? Yeah, I mean, he could walk to his transitions and then and then just be able to do everything. And Rich is similar. I mean, Rich is fit enough that he would – I'm just saying he's fit enough he would make it. He could make this field. But everybody else is just stupid back then,
Starting point is 00:16:54 and they would run to the jump rope, and then they would try to do double unders. They would do 70 double unders and then keel over for 20 seconds and then finish their 30 double unders. And then they would run to the toes, the bar and do 20 toes bar on broken for three sets. And then the fourth and fifth set, they would be 10,
Starting point is 00:17:11 five, three, two. And Ben can just be smarter than everybody. Yes, he's fitter, but he could just be smarter too. So it's a two fold and everybody's retarded on their transitions and their
Starting point is 00:17:22 pacing back then. So the smarter people would try, would try them. Chris Spieler made a living of just being smarter than everybody. I think there's a lot, there are a lot more people that can make you pay for a mistake these days. Like you could, you can make a mistake, but the depth of field is so much different. Now the guys that are in 30th through 40th if you miss a snatch
Starting point is 00:17:46 they can add five spots to your school on event five whereas back in the day you miss a snatch and oh these other guys weren't even at this bar anyway so it doesn't matter in 2009 in aromas ben smith showed up to compete at the crossfit games and took 64th place in 2010 he took eighth place in 2011 he took third place in 2013 he took third place in 2014 he took 8th place. In 2011, he took 3rd place. In 2013, he took 3rd place. In 2014, he took 7th place. In 2015, Ben Smith was the fittest man on planet Earth. On 2016, he was the second fittest man
Starting point is 00:18:13 on Earth, next to Rich Froning. Last time he was at the Games was 2023. He was at the Games last year? Probably as a Masters, right? On a team. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:18:29 Okay. So the last time he went to his individual was 2019. He took 28th place. And boys, is he going back? And that was a pity spot if you want to count that. Yeah, fair enough. You mean he got an invite? He was a wild card yeah that shouldn't
Starting point is 00:18:45 even count um is um is he fit enough to make it back at 34 years old no a bit by a bit i mean like say what he's not it's not fit enough like it doesn't matter if he's good at all the events he's not fit enough i mean I'm sorry that it's that cut and dry but it is like you can we can go through event and event what is he bad at he could be good at it all it could all be wheelhouse but just not good enough I mean the double under toes to bar front squat
Starting point is 00:19:16 you know 10 years ago you'd say or I don't know yeah 10 years ago you'd say he's gonna win it 10 years ago I'd say he won the semifinal yeah but you're just and I've also heard I've also heard him say he's fitter than he's going to win it. Ten years ago, I'd say he'd win the semifinal. Yeah. But you're just... And I've also heard him say he's fitter than he's ever been. And there's ten guys fitter than he's ever been, too. I mean, he's a squatty machine, right?
Starting point is 00:19:39 Double unders he could do in his sleep. Yeah, he's good at squat. I bet there's five guys at least that beat him in his best workout. Alright, no Ben Smith. Anyone? 11 spots, guys. It's pretty easy to make it. It's not that I don't like Ben Smith.
Starting point is 00:19:57 I like Ben being right there at the end. I like Ben with a better than a puncher's chance going into Sunday. Hey, maybe he's one of those guys who's going to go from 28th place to 13th place in the last workout. Just
Starting point is 00:20:13 in the last day, I could definitely see him making a big jump. He's saying him be 20th up to 13th. Like he gets second in the dumbbell carry workout, in the lunge workout i'm saying like or or he pulls like he he's got a little uh i i could see him like i could see him doing really really well in the snatch ladder and is he the original madaris would you say he was
Starting point is 00:20:36 never a home run hitter he was always like the that's probably he won events though he won the soccer chipper he was one of the strongest guys he He didn't win max lifts, but he was third place in the max lifts. And that's Medeiros. Medeiros, if he's ever going to win something, it's going to be chipper style, right? And he's strong. He's top five strongest guys, right? Sandbag shit.
Starting point is 00:20:58 No, he's not. Okay. I will say, it would be interesting to see. He won double DT. He's won events before. I would not put him in the same mold as Medeiros. He was... Yeah, I just wouldn't put him in the same mold as Medeiros.
Starting point is 00:21:15 Any lack of confidence in Ben Smith? You think he's grown into his... No, he's got nothing to lose. He's probably just you know gonna be like i'm gonna show everybody what i'm made of like he's you know old from the old era from the early days even like i i went back and watched some of the behind the scenes and the year he won the games i mean you were talking to him and he was just insanely calm and mature and just yep just go out and think about this event
Starting point is 00:21:46 and then forget about it and think about the next one. Like it was just so, so matter of fact. He used to be really shy, almost like a deaf mute. Like he grew, we watched him grow. Thank you, Dustin. Heavy DT, sorry. He was a kid when he came to the games. Like maybe like 18 or 19.
Starting point is 00:22:02 He was just a kid. Maybe younger. I think he was 19 yeah he barely talked uh luke parker of crossfit mayhem uh north america east semi-final eighth place i think he's got a shot he does have a shot but i don, I mean, he's got his work cut out for him. I mean, as is everybody, but him in particular 30 years old. I think Luke's in the, the, just like last year, the events, the events line up really, really well for him. He's a great runner. He's going to start off the, the, he's going to start off the competition. I think with a really good score on both of those workouts.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Like I just think that these events really, really cater to what Luke's good at. He's a good snatcher. He's fit. I think he's going to be fine. Does he go on the list? I would put him on the bubble list right now. Okay, I'll put him off on the side. Luke Parker.
Starting point is 00:23:00 I don't disagree with anything JR said. It's just so it's so crowded. But 100%, these events are great for him. And the year he made it where nobody thought he was going to make it, I think it was last year, the same thing happened. The events were just so great for him, and he showed up. Stephane Cossett, old man, Masters athlete. uh stefane cossett old man masters athlete age group quarterfinals on our semifinals is he can get my final north american
Starting point is 00:23:33 uh yeah he's canadian north uh north american east semifinal 28th place so it's possible that it's stefan cosay possible probably not yeah what did i say stefan cassette stefane yes stefane cassette coset uh eighth uh eighth worldwide in the quarterfinals wow maybe that's in the master's division yeah i was like hold up uh 38th uh 38th place in North America East quarterfinals. Ranked worldwide 155th. No chance. No chance?
Starting point is 00:24:18 Yeah, no chance. I don't even know how to read these stats. How the fuck does this work? It says 2024. So we can't look at his placement. Look at his placement what? Outside of his age group. Oh, yeah, you can.
Starting point is 00:24:39 That's in North America East, man. Okay. Individual quarterfinal. Okay, okay, okay. I see it, yeah. All right, no chance. Okay. Individual quarterfinal. Okay. Okay. Okay. I see it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:47 All right. No chance. Okay. Sorry, Stephane. What did you call it? What's his name, JR? Could be Stephane. I think it's probably Stephon.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Stephon, yes. Nate Ackerman, the Brute Kid, has had some amazing training partners. Daniel Brandon, Dallin Pepper, Fee Sagafi. Yeah, I think he's Dom's athlete now. James Sprague, now moved to Mayhem with Emma Carey.
Starting point is 00:25:16 20 years old. Let's see what he did last year. Last year, he didn't even make it to the semifinals. His partner's with Coos. Oh, yeah, you're right. Sorry. Last year, 2023 in the semifinals his partners with coos at what oh yeah you're right sorry last year 2023 in the semifinal he took 24th uh this year he uh took 26 in the quarterfinals north america east any chance no he needs time i think he's on his, but it's not his year yet. Dre Strong, cameraman for CrossFit Mayhem. Mitch, just to hear what you all say on this one. No.
Starting point is 00:25:54 No shot. No shot. Individual quarterfinal 2024, 14th in North America East. Hey, man, he's seen the best in the world do it. I don't really have to't really Closer than anybody Someone like Dre I think John Even though he likes to default
Starting point is 00:26:12 To this reason, would have a hard time Just saying it's fitness I think with Dre it's got to be an event Or a hole, what is that John? I just don't think he's strong enough Okay So it's just the fact that the programming seems to lend itself to the bigger, powerful athlete.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Yeah. And I mean, you're three 40 back squat, four 75 deadlift, five 65 Fran, two Oh seven, five K 2023 snatch, two 80 sprint for 400 meters.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Uh, wow. He's got 50 seconds around the track. He's an amazing runner. At least he has become a really really good runner over the last few years i think he'll start off the competition with a really good score guys i'm not i'm not a hater like walk through the events okay the one the snatch ladder yes he'll finish it there's gonna be 12 to 15 guys that are ahead of him like that alone
Starting point is 00:27:04 like the east it's not that dre i think dre would have a shot of making it in the west um the east is so deep who finishes higher him or luke parker luke parker you cannot you cannot be like oh he's really fit like and then like that's not good enough. It's so deep that I really feel like the programming is going to cater to guys that the workouts just float towards their strengths. And Dre is a smaller guy. It's so deep. Thank you, Kyle.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Thank you. I almost pushed the button. Did I see 3PO? How about now? Am I better? Okay. You missed two chances, but you got it. You can't even tell.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Okay, so no Draystrom. If event three was an actual gymnastics workout, then he would have way, way more of a shot. Hey, do you think that him and Luke Parker both know? Like if you were to sequester them into a room alone and you would ask Dre, hey, can Luke beat you? He's like, uh-huh. You ask Luke, hey, can you beat Dre?
Starting point is 00:28:19 And he's like, uh-huh. I don't think Dre's going to say that. I don't know. I don't know if we've ever really seen Dre's going to say that. I think Dre's going to be like that. I don't know. I don't know if we've ever really seen Dre show all the way out. Wasn't every year of regionals he tweaked by something or another? No, Dre was robbed like no one has ever been robbed before. In 2017, the all-dumbbell year, Dre got the most egregious no reps on ring muscle-ups
Starting point is 00:28:43 in the 21-15-9 dumbbell overhead squat ring muscle-up workout, and he was robbed, and he should be a one-time individual games athlete already. Wow. You stand by that? 100%. Damn. Trish.
Starting point is 00:29:00 Savon. Hi. JR is sick of your shit. Never. Thank you. Okay. Uh, Jr. Sick of your shit. Never. Thank you. Okay. Good. Um, Jr.
Starting point is 00:29:09 Bringing the passion. That's, that's a good point. All right. Okay. Uh, so Draystrom, uh, um,
Starting point is 00:29:15 uh, Alexander Caron, uh, 28 years old. It feels like his name has been said forever, man. Everyone's over 200 pounds, dude.
Starting point is 00:29:25 It's big boy central. Alexander Caron, let me tell you some things about him. CrossFit Games 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022. In 2019, he won his team. He hasn't been, he didn't go last year. He didn't make it. And this year in the semis, how can – it says North America East semi – oh, last year in the semifinals, he took 58th out of 60.
Starting point is 00:29:51 So he shit the bed. He probably pulled out or something from an injury. Is that true? Yeah, he withdrew. I don't know if you remember the controversy. Did they make him withdraw? With the verbiage about attempting and trying and showing effort. But, yeah, he had injured his pec,
Starting point is 00:30:08 and he wasn't able to do the ring muscle-up workout with the ruck. And because of that, they made him withdraw. Oh, yeah. That's the year that Sidney Wells got a pass, and Alex Caron did not. Was that also – was last year the year Scott Panchik landed on the rope, or was that two years ago? That was two years ago. Last time we were in Knoxville.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Carone qualified 11th. He had the 11th fastest time of the boys he's competing against in the quarterfinals. Is he going? I think he has a good shot as anybody, but I do not have him going. Do I even put him on the list that Luke Parker sits on, or no? He doesn't even make that list.
Starting point is 00:30:50 I think you can put him on that list. What do you guys think? I think he could be on the list, but it's lower than Luke. Okay. Lower than Luke. Got noted. Okay. Okay. Dallin Pepper.
Starting point is 00:31:04 22 years old. The fittest man in America. I think he will do okay. Fifth in North America East. Is he going to win this? Could. Very well could. Definitely could. In Justin Madera style or with
Starting point is 00:31:27 some wins way better i would say justin madera i think i think it's gonna be i think it would be exactly that way i think it would just be top tens all over the place and 100 so he's the first guy we're getting on the list For sure you guys have him for sure Dallin Pepper In 2023 Semifinals he was Took third Where's 2024 how come I can't find 2024
Starting point is 00:31:55 Oh there it is Individual quarterfinal 2024 He took 5th Overall in the world he took 20th With everybody knowing his scores yeah good point okay down peppers in uh any anything that we need any concerns about down is he healthy is are there any concerns i'm really i'm really really excited about friday because of down because everybody just wants to talk about he's good at everything but running he's good at
Starting point is 00:32:23 everything but running and i know he's been running a ton, and I'm excited to watch because I think that workout will really kind of almost like give him an idea of where he's at compared to the games field on a run-heavy workout at the games because there's so many good people at the semifinal. All right. Evan Rogers, known as the Pipsqueak. 185 pounds.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Little tiny guy. 5'11", 185. Little miniature man. Evan Rogers. Evan Pipsqueak, or Rogers. 2023 semifinal, North America East semifinal, qualified in the 15th spot. I mean, I think we'll see him somewhere in the top 20 again this year.
Starting point is 00:33:11 I mean, every year he's been to semis, he's performed really well. And, yeah, I'm a little bit of a homer because he's competed at crash a bunch of times. But he's light, right? 185? Does he finish the snatch ladder? I think so. I think he finished the snatch ladder, yeah. But does he go on any list?
Starting point is 00:33:29 There's only two lists. Does he go on either of them? No, not for me. You're not allowed to make the games if you're not over 190 pounds in the semifinal. Thank you. That's what I thought. Jason, on the other end of the spectrum, 35 pounds heavier than Evan Rogers.
Starting point is 00:33:45 They call him Jason Tubby Hopper, the tubster. JR's taking offense to that right now. Individual quarterfinals, fourth in North America, east. Does he get to go on the list? Yeah, he can be on the list. Any chance he'll win it this year? He's got a chance. I'm trying to think of what he would screw up on.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Is he your number one pick to win it, John? I have him second place. Oh, interesting. Or third place. I don't remember. Second or third. Would he have won West? Would he do better than the guys at the West?
Starting point is 00:34:28 I think he would win the West, yeah. JR, would he win the West? No comment. Tyler, would he win the West? I think so. He would have a really, really good shot. All right. So now we have two, Dallin Pepper, Jason Hopper Young guys
Starting point is 00:34:45 Although he did tell me, JR He said if he was comfortable That he was not going to try hard on event six Good for him Austin Spencer 205 pounds Made it to the games through the last chance quarterfinal A couple years ago
Starting point is 00:35:01 Last year? A couple years ago Competed in 2022 at the CrossFit Atlas Games Not his fault a couple years ago. Last year? A couple years ago. Competed in 2022 at the CrossFit Atlas Games. Not his fault. Someone has to compete there. Sorry, Austin. That was probably the weakest region that year outside of Africa. Individual quarterfinals, 2024, 30th place in North America East.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Man, this guy's been around forever Can he do it? Does he still got it? I mean I think he's as fit as he was then I just think he's This is a guy that I think he's just like This is what he is This is his potential Maybe he's fitter than that
Starting point is 00:35:39 But I haven't seen anything that would suggest that I don't have him going Is he a misfit athlete? What is he? Yeah he's I haven't seen anything that would suggest that. I don't have him going. Is he a misfit athlete? What is he? Yeah, he's – The last remaining. He married Carolyn Connors, and she's Carolyn Spencer now. She's a games athlete.
Starting point is 00:35:58 So he doesn't go on the list. Does he go on the list, JR? Yeah. I think he's probably, again, in that top 20 boat. But does he beat Luke Parker? No, I don't think so. Does he beat Karon? It depends on how healthy Alex is.
Starting point is 00:36:18 He's never healthy. Even at Guadalupalooza, that pet kept him from doing the dip workout. So I don't know. I feel like he's always banged up. Ready for this? Marcelo Clarizio, 21 years old, 170 pounds. They call him the human feather. Wow. Yeah. They call him the human feather. Wow.
Starting point is 00:36:46 Yeah, they call him the human feather. He's so light that when he's working out, they have to turn the fans down in the room. That's about what JR weighs, yeah? 170? 180. You're 10 pounds heavier than this guy? I'm 180 180 so I guess
Starting point is 00:37:08 do the math Tyler can you do the math from the heat one app the math on this show is not to you by the heat one app probably not 6-1 he probably looks a lot thicker than I $1,500 you can win all you got to do is just punch it you just got to punch in your guesses and hey
Starting point is 00:37:24 listen this is how easy it is. The guy who took sixth place on the Heat One app just chose James Sprague to win every event. Also happened to be James Sprague, but yes. Yeah, so that's how fucking easy it is to win $1,600. Dude, I think that's awesome. Guy bets on himself and then ends up sixth in the world. Yeah, just go there and pick Hopper for fucking everything i will say watching sprague play other times when he is also competing he's
Starting point is 00:37:50 very honest like he won't pick himself if he doesn't think he has a good shot so he cares more about winning in the app uh 2023 this year no sorry 2024 individual quarterfinal This year he took 31st in North America East Does the human feather have a chance Zero Does this guy finish the snatch ladder I don't know his abilities I Don't know
Starting point is 00:38:18 I do Seth Stovall 22 years old 5 foot 9 inches tall 18 pounds, out of CrossFit. Mayhem. Individual quarterfinal 2024, qualified 17th. Okay, so is Corona a Mayhem athlete too? Everybody's a Mayhem athlete.
Starting point is 00:38:37 He has been for a long time. I think Seth has a shot to make it. It's an outside shot, but he's a really, really fit guy. Is he better than Luke? We don't really know. I would say no, but he better than Dre. I'd put him on the same level as Dre.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Okay. Younger than Dre. Different, way different, like athlete type, but like I'd put him on the same level. Any final thoughts on Seth Stovall, JR?
Starting point is 00:39:08 I'm excited to watch him. He's another young athlete that like even hearing Rich talk about how good of a head he's got on his shoulders on a couple of shows he's done. I think he kind of gets it. And whether he makes it this year or next year or the year after, I can see him kind of being like a Luke that like a lot of people doubt early on, like like why are you trying to do this and then year after year he just gets better and better and better and then he he qualifies so I think he'll be in that same boat is he like the east version of the is he the eastern Will Leahy no every time every time we've had a chance to see him he disappears oh that like in that sense yeah like we don't really know that much about
Starting point is 00:39:47 seth not at the highest level dre is far better than seth uh he's got to be uh 195 he's only five seven um i didn't say he was going hiller said he's cool um I just said he was fit alright does he get to go on the list with Caron and Luke Parker I would say no but I'll let you guys I think he's in the teens I don't know I got
Starting point is 00:40:17 I got Laheed last week I have a pension for wishing for new guys so I want to say yes but I'll let J.R. J.R.? It's been passed down to you. Low man on the totem pole. Well, you know I'm not going to give you anything super straightforward.
Starting point is 00:40:32 I would put him somewhere, yeah, in the top 15, top 16. Does he – so Dre is not – Dre is the gatekeeper of the list. He's not on the B list. Is he better than Dre? Ooh, I like that. Dre is the gatekeeper. Like if you're fitter than Dre, you can be on the B list. Is he better than Dre? I like that. Dre is the gatekeeper. If you're fitter than Dre, you can be on the B list.
Starting point is 00:40:49 If you're not fitter than Dre, you're not. Is he fitter than Dre? I feel like I have them in the same... They are very different fitness types of athletes. JR. I would say yes. I'd put him on the same level okay
Starting point is 00:41:07 so he can be a gatekeeper too so now he's holding hands with dre he's not on either list i like this because now you're gonna say peter mason i'm gonna be like nope okay uh peter mason uh i saw him at the zealous games i i want to say he got injured there did he i thought he got second place in an event like we never thought he was in the running and then i want to say royal flush uh off the top of my head five ten five ten 190 perfect height and perfect weight uh 2024 individual quarterfinal 12th in north america east oh this dude's going It's this dude's year This dude's a disrupt
Starting point is 00:41:47 This guy's a disruptor He's a problem Yeah he's a problem He's a disruptor Yeah You guys aren't buying it 12th guys 12th
Starting point is 00:42:03 12th in the individual quarterfinals That's where you qualify That's really cool it's a big accomplishment for him He did get first John I needed to check that He got first in Royal Flush I don't know how I do it Tyler What's Royal Flush
Starting point is 00:42:18 What's Royal Flush It's a workout I can't even remember what the workout is Let alone the freaking name 425 snatch 337 clean and jerk It's a workout. I can't even remember what the workout is, let alone the freaking name. There were bar face and burpees in it. 425 snatch, 337 clean and jerk, 512 deadlift, 217 fran, 55 pull-ups, one-arm pull-ups strict. A lot of times these are outdated.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Snatch 260, 400-meter run, 104. He's got trouble coming if he can still only snatch 260. Peter Mason, does he go on the A list or B list? No. C list. I think he's going, guys. That's your Hattie Cano? Yeah, he's my Hattie Cano.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Can you? JR? Is he the closest thing that we've seen to a Hattie Cano so far? He's looking for permission, JR. Peter Mason. I did not. I knew next to nothing about Hattie. I know at least a little about Peter, so I would not make the comparison.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Hey, Peter's got crazy engine, right? He's fit as fuck. He's not fitter than Dre. Say this. Out of 12 dudes, really only 11 competed at Zillow Games. He got eighth.
Starting point is 00:43:33 Oh, that's a great, great pool. Fuck you. I mean, thank you. I didn't say what that meant. I'm just saying facts. I'm putting him off on the side on the C list. He's the first one on the C list. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Jason, did we do Austin Spencer? Okay. It says so. Peter Mason. Marquand Jones. My God. This guy's been around forever. This is like father time.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Good height, 5'11", 200 pounds, 34 years old. Yeah. Marquand is a case of like Good athlete Like he's fit He's just not as fit as the guys that are gonna make it Went to the games in 2018 37th place This year at the semifinal
Starting point is 00:44:19 North America East semifinal 20th No go What has he been missing? That's always he's not fit enough like like when i say that when i say they're not fit enough like it's everything i want to say yeah you have to yeah you have to legless rope climb faster you have to handstand walk faster your rope pace has to be five seconds faster you have to snatch 10 pounds more you have to yeah you have to legless rope climb faster you have to handstand walk faster your rope pace has to be five seconds faster you have to snatch 10 pounds more you have to run one minute faster on your 5k like it's not when i say it's his fitness is why he can't make it ben smith same thing like they're not he bitter than smith does he be ben smith everything
Starting point is 00:45:00 does he be ben smith i think those two will be in the same, like, five spots, within five spots of each other. That's crazy. Hey, I remember interviewing Marquand somewhere. I can see where it is. I want to say maybe it was Albany or some shit. He's better than Elijah Muhammad. And he said this was his last year, and had to have been like 5 or 6 years ago So I'm kind of getting like
Starting point is 00:45:27 I'm getting that vibe from him That he just stays really fit Hair alone Yeah good point I think I do remember he had a crazy hot chick with him too Could be wrong about that Can't remember I apologize if I'm wrong about that.
Starting point is 00:45:46 Spencer Panchik. 28 years old. God knows where he trains. Rumor has it he's with L now. Coach L. Daniel Brandon. Kelsey Kiel. 47 other athletes. Former proven athlete.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Brother of the great Scott Panchik. One of the greatest to ever do it. Twin of Saxon Pancheck. Two boys building legacy. Been in the CrossFit space forever. Grew up with the OGs. Probably been CrossFitting since he's fucking 10 years old. Probably the longest CrossFitter in the fucking group, to be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Maybe as long as Ben Smith or longer. No, that's not true. I took it too far with that one uh individual quarterfinal in 2024 took 18th place in north america east when you hear the name panchik do you just assume they're going not this one. I assume they're going to be right there, like with a chance going into the final workout no matter what. I always think that. Yeah, me too. The name carries so much weight in my head.
Starting point is 00:46:56 I can't even think clearly about them. And it's more so, it's not necessarily based on reputation or based on track record in place of finish. It's based on just the the they don't have holes but what's he not good at but but to john's point he's not great at anything either so when he needs to get it to get a top five or get a top three to have a hard time doing it. For instance, like if – like Justin Medeiros is essentially a super saiyan pan chick. If anybody knows – Super what pan chick? A super what? Don't use that reference.
Starting point is 00:47:37 He's not going to know. A super saiyan version of any pan chick you want to use. Like they're not bad at anything, but they're not great at anything. Justin is a little bit better at everything than the Panchuks are. I'll group them as a whole. Spencer Panchuk is my last person. He's my first person out.
Starting point is 00:48:01 He's my 12th spot. Okay, so I'll put him on the list with Parker and Caron. Yeah. That list is getting really long. Caleb, do you know what I'm saying with that? Does that make sense to you, Caleb? Oh, you're desperate. You're desperate. It makes sense, right,
Starting point is 00:48:16 Caleb? You're desperate, John. You're desperate. Justin Medeiros is the Hulk as opposed to their Bruce Banner. No, no, no. You can't. What is this? This is a metaphor? This is a parallel that John was drawing
Starting point is 00:48:29 to these fucking anime guys? Yeah, he's... Yeah, because I'm a real one. And I grew up on Dragon Ball Z like all the real ones do. Respect. I cannot believe John is talking like this. John has really come out of the closet.
Starting point is 00:48:49 This is crazy. The real ones. Okay. All right. Uh, is Spencer going, Jer? I think he's going to be right there.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Like John kind of has him on the bubble. I would put him right there between a few spots. Do you think he's not going and you just don't want to say it? Cause he's a pan chick. You think it's sacrilege? No, no, there between a few spots do you think he's not going and you just don't want to say it because he's a pan chick you think it's sacrilege no that's not really that's how i really feel all right tyler do you believe him i i i think he could go i would put him on the bubble but it's i'm like you i think it's sacrilege not to think that they can go not to choose him yeah yeah like you'd be struck down by the CrossFit gods or something.
Starting point is 00:49:26 Okay, Jack Rosema. Boy, hard to bet against him. I'm going to bet against him. Dude, he's a freak. Hey, this is a true freak. I'm almost playing on the chat right now. 5'9", 205, this guy is a freak. Would you say this guy is a freak, Jer?
Starting point is 00:49:45 You'd be hard-pressed to find a better physique at this semifinal, for sure. He's gnarly. How is he going to do on the run? That might be his worst event. 2024 Individual Quarterfinal,
Starting point is 00:50:00 8th in North America East. That's impressive. It's impressive. It's impressive. There's not any high volume gymnastics here, which is his worst thing. Rosema
Starting point is 00:50:16 or Dre? I would pick Dre in that scenario, but I don't think I, I do would put Rosamund within the same five spots of that. I think Rosamund is very fit and high volume gymnastics are what he's the worst at. I really think it's just a case of him being in the,
Starting point is 00:50:40 in North America East. I think he makes, I think he might make it in any division except this one. Hey, let me also say, how many events were there at the Crucible? Seven. Yeah, this guy went hard to the end, as I recall. Yeah, and it's interesting John makes that point about the gymnastics, and while I'm not trying to argue with him at all,
Starting point is 00:51:01 Crucible's gymnastics were extremely high level gymnastics it wasn't a lot of chunk chest to bar chunk toes to bar chunk handstand push-ups chunk whatever kind of gymnastics movement you want to pick it was pegboard harder it was it was parallette handstand push-up so gymnastics at a way higher skill level um so yeah it's interesting how some people really excel at that type of gymnastics but they aren't as good at the lower level skill gymnastics you know i mean i i'm i'm not as good as jack rosenberg i'm not trying to say that but i'm i'm very similar to that i can do all of the harder gymnastics but then you know 100 tests to bar for time a lot of people beat like a lot more people would beat me same with jack jack's the same way dude i think probably jack roseman has insane pull-ups i bet he's got i bet she's got a world-class time.
Starting point is 00:52:05 I mean, he looks like a fucking pulling machine. His physique reminds me a lot of Dan's back in the day. Speaking of Dan, Michael Dixon, John and Dan Bailey look like brothers. That's the first time I've heard that. Yeah, that's pretty amazing. That's good. I like that. I can see it. I can slightly see it.
Starting point is 00:52:24 I can slightly, slightly see it. Thank you, Paper Street Coffee. Get high now. Okay, do we put him on the B team, Jack Rosema, or is he on the C list? Is he better than Seth, Seth, Seth, Seth, Seth, Seth, Seth, Seth, Seth Stovall? I'd put him on the B team. I hear someone typing. Yeah, he's on the list. It's me all right all right jack rosema b team boy the b team is going to be fun to look at uh i'm gonna say uh rosema's uh i'm gonna put him up there with uh pete mason uh in terms of being a disruptor uh samuel cornway god this is gonna really break my heart to say this, but I think Samwell has been underwhelming.
Starting point is 00:53:32 And that's just based on my own expectations. I keep thinking he's – I also agree. I agree with you on this, Samwell. I was going to say I think it's based on nothing but how hype you were about him and how confident he was a couple years ago. Yeah. I just – I don't know what's wrong.
Starting point is 00:53:50 I don't know why he's not – like he's games champ material to me. The downfall was the lake water. It was like after that, there was nothing left in him. Really? He got poisoned by the lake water? That was like all the hype, and then he was like, oh, I got sick from the lake water. It was like we never saw anything from him after that.
Starting point is 00:54:08 It's like, yeah, he makes it to the games. Samuel Cornwall, fifth in North America East this year. That's fucking amazing. At the games, 2023, he took 22nd. He went team in 2022. He took first. The year before that, he took 23rd. That's 2021. 2020, he took 10th. 2019, he took 22nd. He went team in 2022. He took first. The year before that, he took 23rd. That's 2021.
Starting point is 00:54:27 2020, he took 10th. 2019, he took 35th. 435 back squat, 370 clean injure, deadlift 530, Fran 205, Grace 130, snatch 305. He's got all the tools, right? Yeah, I think he's in. I think he's in. I think he's comfortable. Comfortable. He needs a win here.
Starting point is 00:54:53 I don't think he's going to win this competition. I don't think he has a chance to do that. I have him seventh. Okay, he needs a win. Okay, so now we have three on the list. Austin Hatfield. Uh-oh. I sense problems here.
Starting point is 00:55:08 There's your Eddie Caño. 5'7", 195 pounds. He passes the 195, Mark. Yeah, that's good. Basically, Matt Fraser 2.0 is what John thinks. Semi-finals in 2023,
Starting point is 00:55:26 North America East 13th. One spelled out. No, sorry. That's, oh, okay. First competition ever. 2024, holy shit, quarterfinals, North America East third place. How'd he do at the Crucible?
Starting point is 00:55:42 He got spanked by Colton. He won. He beat Colton and james sprake oh get out anybody wanted wondering he would have won using both scoring systems and he grew up on dragon ball z2 yeah tyler been meaning to talk to you about that i don't know if this is the right time or not will brandstetter has uh has really, really tried to talk me out of your P score, and I told him. I said, no, dude, we got to do it.
Starting point is 00:56:12 He said, dude, no one knows what it is. I said, that's the point, man. We are misfits. We are a marching band to nowhere, this group of – Does Branstetter say it's no good? He laughs about it knowing what it is. How can we continue to use it?
Starting point is 00:56:30 I said, that's exactly why we're going to keep it. Hey, but it's valid, right? It's valid. I love using it, comparing it to the regular scoring as confirmation that somebody didn't get gypped with
Starting point is 00:56:46 how the events were scored. For the record, Will is not trying to talk me out of it. He just asked me if I was going to use it. That was just a little bit. I can't have you right there. I can tell you exactly how he said this. It's a riff on the same thing. The calculations are just
Starting point is 00:57:02 slightly different, but P-score is easier. I guarantee you will. It's like fitness for each event rather than your placement for each event. Right. That in a situation. Okay. Because I remember Colton won four straight events. The last four events,
Starting point is 00:57:16 he won every single one of them and everybody was like, how does Colton not win? So, and then freaking P score, he was actually worse than regular scoring. Yep. It was because Alston was so close to him. And then I will say on the last event that Colton smashed everybody, even P score, which considers performance could not,
Starting point is 00:57:45 I felt like it still couldn't accurately give him enough point for what he did. I mean, he made everybody look silly. And so it was like, yeah, he would even scored worse in regular scoring. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:58 And he's still lost is what I'm saying. Austin Hatch was still first in both of those. Yeah. And I know we're on to, I know we're on to Austin. We're talking about the East right now. But people need to think about when they say they hate P-score, they hate the idea of it. Listen, no one wanted to see Olivia make the games more than I did.
Starting point is 00:58:18 I picked her to win the snatch ladder and the handstand walkout. She did. And if you use P score olivia olivia kerstetter is going to the games because she destroyed everyone on the snatch ladder she didn't just beat everyone she destroyed everyone she showed she was so far superior on that workout and how do you think that the person that got second should only get three points less than her that is the question that's what comes into question when you see such a dominating performance like that. Should that be worth as much as someone only winning by one or two seconds?
Starting point is 00:58:54 Like look at Colton and Brent. Do you think Olivia earned, because I hate the word deserves, do you think Olivia earned more points compared to the second place finisher than Colton did compared to Brent? I would argue yes on that workout. I mean, did Olivia touch and go 175? She didn't freaking need to. But absolutely.
Starting point is 00:59:15 And like, I think the math shows second place would have been 75 points versus 100 points. No, it was 83. I thought you said 25. That's what it said in the little chart. 17. 100 points. No, it was 83. I thought you said 25. That's what it said in the little chart. 17 points. All right, 83 points. Well, the way to defeat my point, Tyler.
Starting point is 00:59:33 Shit, we're not going to have time to do this unless we do the women tomorrow night. Austin Hatfield, which list? He makes it. He's comfortable. Jer? Well. I have him sixth place. He makes it. He's comfortable. JR? Well – I have him sixth place. JR?
Starting point is 00:59:50 I know JR disagrees. I think he makes it for sure. But I think it's going to be more difficult because of how the last two weeks have unfolded with the programming. I think that it's – and, I mean, I hope he's one of those guys that can just say it doesn't matter. He's going to overcome it. He's that good because no one's been –
Starting point is 01:00:13 What are you referencing? No one's been as high on him as I've – I'm referencing Uldis and Colton winning two workouts and not qualifying. Oh, oh. He's going to have to have a Chris Ibarra-like performance this weekend. Yeah, but I think seeing him in person, I'm very high on him for sure. Not as vocally as high as John, but that's not really my way to be. Jeffrey Adler.
Starting point is 01:00:41 I think he's gonna make it Jake Berman He will Unfortunately not be making it B-list? No C-list? Look at his weight Do you think he does better or worse than Peter Mason?
Starting point is 01:01:00 I think he'll do better than Peter Mason You're out of your mind Okay, Jack Farlow I think he'll do better than Peter Mason. You're out of your mind. Okay, Jack Farlow. I think he makes it. I think Jack Farlow's going to show out a little bit. You mean like a James Sprague style? Programming's good for him. Maybe not to that extent, but I think he'll be comfortable too.
Starting point is 01:01:21 JR, does he do as good as Sprague? Does he have a coming out party here? 6-1-2-10. Yeah, I mean, I think Jack makes it easily. I wasn't expecting the performance from James that James put out. So I would say that, yeah, he's in the top six or seven, I would think, with this programming. Zach Levy, 2024, 37th North America East.
Starting point is 01:01:49 No chance, right? No chance. Alex Vigneault. Not based on the performances we've seen of recent. I wouldn't put it past Vigneault, though. I wouldn't put it past him to be in the mix. I'm not telling you he's going to make it, but I wouldn't be mad. B-team?
Starting point is 01:02:08 Yeah, I think he's deserving of B-team. There's 33 athletes on the B-team right now. Joseph Piero of Kill Taylor fame. No. 5'7", 200. Oh, shit, look at his picture. Wow. That's thick.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Wow. Yeah, he was thick. He was a cannonball Joseph Piero B team Does he beat Peter Mason I don't know enough about him Let me tell you how he finished In the quarter finals In the quarter finals Individual quarter finals 2024
Starting point is 01:02:42 He took 24th North America East So he doesn't even go on the Peter Mason list In the individual quarterfinals 2024, he took 24th in North America East. So he doesn't even go on the Peter Mace list. Roman Krennikoff. Really great weekend for him. Yeah, the Machine semifinals. He's who I have picked to win it. Does he make it, JR?
Starting point is 01:03:07 John, you have changed your list since you sent it to me. Did I? Yes. He's sent you a fake list. I'm sorry. I need to go back and look at the list I sent you. I, uh, when did I send you that list? Uh, right before semi started. Oh, I mean, I saw how the events went, JR.
Starting point is 01:03:24 Yeah, yeah, I changed it. Tyler, is Roman's career in its twilight, is it waning? Is there a chance we could see him do worse this year than last year? Oddly enough, no. Like, he's been around forever. It's like there were so many years he was supposed to go to the games, didn't, but I still think we're on the upswing of his career. Do you think Fikowski is waned?
Starting point is 01:03:45 Fikowski? Yeah. Yeah, a little. Do you think he's waned, Jer? No, this is, it's actually, God, I'm going to get so many blasphemous comments. That's why I don't look at them. Yes, I'm not.
Starting point is 01:04:01 He is not LeBron in any way, shape, or form. He's not in the argument of the two best CrossFitters ever, but as LeBron's career has gone on, the reason why he's been able to be so relevant is because he has changed as a basketball player, as he's lost some of his physical gifts. And what I'm saying that is not that Brent has lost some physical gifts, but as his body has changed, he has become better at some things. And by comparison, not just been the tall, lean,
Starting point is 01:04:34 light guy, who's just going to go out and hit home runs or finish high twenties or low thirties. So I think, I just think Brent, like, I think Brent is the best he's ever been, but I think that his essence as an athlete has changed a lot, similarly to how LeBron is now. He's become a spot up shooter and everyone said that
Starting point is 01:04:57 he would never have that in his game. John? I like that analogy. I've called Austin hatfield lebron for much different reasons but um i i respect that i respect that analogy uh saxon panchick um i have him making it i think i put him over there with spain oh you you got him safely in. Yeah. I have him in. I don't have him safely in. B-list or A-team? No, I would put him on the B-list, high on the B-list. No, I'd put him on the A-team.
Starting point is 01:05:33 With Spencer. JR, B-list or in? No, I don't have much doubt about him. I'd put him up pretty high. Garrett Clark, 25, 5' up pretty high. Garrett Clark. 25, 5'9", 195. Looks young. 25th, North America East.
Starting point is 01:05:55 No. No. No chance in hell? He'll do well at some stuff. Okay. Will Morad, 5'9", 190. Never count them out, man.
Starting point is 01:06:06 I think he makes it easily. Jr. Uh, if there was an athlete that on paper, this programming suits, he might be at the top. Uh, well,
Starting point is 01:06:19 I need, well, more, I need, I need more ad to win. So he doesn't come. Dick stopped me at Masters. Oh, he's going to regardless, Dex.
Starting point is 01:06:27 He's looking for that double. Wow. Okay, so Morad's on the list. Does he finish higher than Saxon? I think I have them one spot apart, but I think I have Will 8 and Saxon 9. He took 20th in the quarterfinals. I think that's irrelevant.
Starting point is 01:06:47 Alright. If you say so. Benoit Boulanger. Try it again. That was really bad. That was on purpose. You can do it better. Come on. Benoit Boulanger.
Starting point is 01:07:08 I'll take that one. Don't make it underwear and you got it. Benoit Boulanger. BB. They call him BB. They call him BB. Look at how, listen, no man with a neck that long can make it to the fucking CrossFit Games.
Starting point is 01:07:26 We need, every time an athlete comes out, they need to be introduced. Just like Sevan's voice. Like, Benoit, Boulanger, BB. Holy shit. Hey, listen, this fucker did good. Seventh in North America East. This guy's going. No, I think it was Travis said that he did
Starting point is 01:07:46 a sub 20 on workout one when he trained it. Now, how he did that, whether the runner was calibrated weirdly or it's a downhill run, 800 meters. I don't know how he did it, but he did say that he did a sub
Starting point is 01:08:02 20 in workout one in practice. This guy's going guys this is this guy's better than peter mason he's really weak he is yeah hold on let me let i'll let me verify that dude he's 186 centimeters and he's 205 is how tall Let me have one word for you. Yellow hostie. He's like 6'1", 6'2", JR. Dude, his neck is fucking like, he's a fucking giraffe, dude. Look at this dude's neck. It's crazy. I bet you with a name like that, he's centimeters.
Starting point is 01:08:37 Yep, 186, whatever that is. 6'1". All right. So is he going, guys? No. I'm putting him on my Peter Mason list. He's really, really, really fit, but he's weak, though. You can't be weak in this programming.
Starting point is 01:08:52 Do you think he speaks English? Yeah. He's not from Quebec. Yeah, dude. Look at his fucking name, dude. Is he from Quebec? With a name like that, I don't know. You've got to at least question whether they speak English.
Starting point is 01:09:07 Isn't it crazy that Quebec doesn't speak English? If I was there, I'd be riding that dude's jog. I think that would be my Raphael Sanson. That is Travis's Raphael Sanson. Travis who? Brault. Oh. Do you not like him, by the way?
Starting point is 01:09:24 Who? What the fuck are you talking about? Sevan loves me. He's dedicated a whole character in the show to me. John, you're a douche. You're trying to plant seeds of dissent. Now let me tell you something about this guy. BB.
Starting point is 01:09:38 Thank you, Sevan. That's a respect on the name. BB is going, and he's going to surprise you. He's going to have an event win, and he's going to struggle with one or two events and uh he's gonna surprise you he's gonna have an event win and uh he's gonna struggle with one or two events but he's gonna be great and uh you can come to my youtube station uh and join the other six subscribers and i'll be calling the event okay thank you something about that voice reminds me of of heber does nobody else hear that sorry John what were you saying do I not like Travis yeah I have no fucking idea
Starting point is 01:10:13 I have no opinion on that's not true he gave him a compliment on the weekend review show talking about how he calls like he was making calls like he was on the radio and it was awesome oh yeah okay he watched this morning show and he texted me he was on the radio, and it was awesome. Oh, yeah. Okay. He watched this morning's show, and he texted me. He was like, does Seva not like me? Excuse me, John.
Starting point is 01:10:31 Our texts are private. No, Travis texted me. Yeah, I know. I know. Buddy. I can't do the voice. Do not share our texts. I got you, man.
Starting point is 01:10:46 He's not in the thread. The thread's sacred. Travis, I'm sorry. John, I'm sorry, Travis. I'm sorry. I said I don't know. I'm sorry that John is sharing your texts on my show. We'll edit that out.
Starting point is 01:10:59 Caleb, can you edit that out after the show? John, thank you. Edit that out. That wasn't cool, John. I also said the first month I was on the show john thank you let it that out that wasn't cool john i also said like the first month i was on the show i endured basically crucifixion every single show i still think you do it at least once a week oh my god john be cool to him john don't throw him under the bus he's a good dude the travis. His voice is just like, he just needs some tea. Go ahead, Jer. I was going to say, I think Benoit will be,
Starting point is 01:11:33 will surprise some people with how high he is like after the first and second day. I think he's going to go out and do really good on the first workout. And honestly, I think just being around Caroline and Jeff is like, i think that's huge i think getting coached by the same person is big um so i think as far as this dude's coach yeah so i think just i think as far as development goes um she obviously knows what she's doing i
Starting point is 01:11:58 mean look look how far jeff came in six or seven years do you think she gives both of her male athletes the same attention? I can't remember who interviewed her and asked her that. Do you think she's giving Jeff more attention than Benoit? He's not allowed to sleep in the bed. For any unknown reason. Go ahead, Tyler. You sure?
Starting point is 01:12:20 God, fuck. Somebody interviewed him. Or her. She was stupid up front about it she was like no i can't give him the same amount of attention i really like that about her she's she will answer anything you ask her i mean it's super responsible very honestly it's super responsible of her to be like that but it's like i i don't know it's like taking on a client and being like yeah i can't pay attention to you all the time well we'll see we'll see i bet you she gives him more attention than than than we suspect i mean because she doesn't i suspect like adler
Starting point is 01:12:58 she doesn't do anything half-assed okay uh taylor taylor self oh so does Benny be Dre JR BB does BB be Dre I put him right there with those guys I think you could say it's between One or two spots either direction I would say I don't know him well enough To make a good right there with those guys. I think you could say it's between one or two spots, either direction. I would say I don't know him well enough to make a good,
Starting point is 01:13:28 an act, an actual call on it. It'd be irresponsible for me to make a call on it. All right. Uh, Taylor self. Should I, does he go on the B list? Not Taylor BB.
Starting point is 01:13:41 I think he's fit enough to go on the B list. Yeah. Okay. Benny, Benny and BB, Ben, Ben, Wah-list. Okay, Benny. Benny and Bebe. Benoit. Benoit. Okay.
Starting point is 01:13:50 I'll take him off with Peter. I had him with Peter Mason. I'll put him on the B. Sorry, Peter. He's higher than you. Will Moore. Taylor Self. B-list.
Starting point is 01:14:02 Jared's not going to answer. I love watching caleb's reactions we're saying guys on the b-list that can that are going to qualify though no b-list is like this is the bubble i thought b-list is you could qualify but it's so many people are on that is below the bubble okay i say he's above that line oh i thought he was i thought b-list was the bubble yes yeah i thought b-list was you could well there was listen we're gonna know at the end if i put taylor on the a-list there's only one spot left and we have to yeah that's going to travis okay i'm gonna put taylor on the a-list is taylor better than dre yeah Yeah, I have Taylor as the last spot in.
Starting point is 01:14:47 I have him in 11th place. You think that old fuck Will Morad's going to beat Taylor? Yes. Son of a... You think that Saxon Panchick kid is going to beat Taylor? Yes. But they'll be neck and neck. Holy shit, JR, listen to me. Ready, JR?
Starting point is 01:15:06 Austin? Taylor got beat by a meth head in Pennsylvania. neck and neck. Holy shit, JR, listen to me. Ready, JR? Austin. Taylor got beat by a meth head in Pennsylvania. Saxon can beat him. Those can't, none of those kill Taylors
Starting point is 01:15:12 can be used. Those aren't even valid data points. All right. You think Austin Hatfield, JR,
Starting point is 01:15:19 is going to beat Taylor himself? Be honest, Taylor. Be honest, JR. I don't think he... You don't think JR can be honest? No, I really don't know.
Starting point is 01:15:32 I mean, I don't... I would have a hard time. You know the workout. You know the athlete. What more can I tell you? I'll get you any information you need to make a decision. Listen, man. Listen. JR's getting aggressive. I've seen them both in, listen. I've seen them both. Oh, JR's getting aggressive.
Starting point is 01:15:46 I've seen them both in my house. I've seen them both in my house win. And, I mean, I put them – I hate to say this, but I get very emotionally attached to the people that come and compete at Crash and the people that win especially. Like I want to see them succeed more than I want to see anyone succeed in the sport. Really like Austin,
Starting point is 01:16:10 Taylor, Jason, Shelby, Shailen, um, Lindsay. Like I, I have a hard time,
Starting point is 01:16:18 uh, discussing any of those people, but I think they both qualify this year, Austin and Taylor. I think they both qualify, too. I have Taylor as the 11th and final spot, beating Spencer Banchik. What's the first workout again? He should murder it.
Starting point is 01:16:36 Run in what? Run in 10 clean and jerks. Five rounds, 800-meter run, 10 clean and jerks. And what's the weight on the clean and jerks? 185. What, 185. 185. Is he going to be able to pace that or is he going to freak out and come out too hot?
Starting point is 01:16:53 I think he's going to murder it. I think it's potentially a top three workout for him. Okay, so put him on the A-list. Okay, Taylor Self on the A-list. Travis Mayer. Going. I have him one spot above Taylor. JR?
Starting point is 01:17:17 That's where I'd have him, somewhere in that range. Okay, so all 11 spots are full now, just so you know. Brad Wilson. 27 years old, 6'2", 215 Nope What? Couldn't Travis win this weekend? No, Tyler
Starting point is 01:17:36 Why? Because he's not a top 5 games athlete Hey, you think he's going to be top 3 in that first workout? You think it's going to be him and Taylor? No Jeff Adler is going to run away with that workout. You think Travis can compete with Jeff Adler in that workout? He's an amazing runner, and that bar is not going to slow down.
Starting point is 01:17:52 Not as good as Jeff. I don't think that's correct. I think it's 100% correct. How do you think Roman Krennikoff does that in that? He can run. Better than Travis. Brandon True. I think Travis will do better than Brandon True.
Starting point is 01:18:13 Brandon True, 32. Hold on, hold on. Can we get JR's opinion on that? That way I'm not the only person telling you you're on crack. I think Travis will make it, but I think he's going to think travis will make it but i don't i think he's going to have to fight to make it i'm just saying look at every runs two and a half miles they're all fantastic for him yeah i would say this programming a lot like luke is uh lays out
Starting point is 01:18:36 really good for travis's strengths so you think he could potentially win it no, I wouldn't pick him to win it. Like if I had to pick. Like give me a range. Like if I had to podium. I could see anywhere from five to ten. That's probably what I would say. Because I just think a lot of those spots are interchangeable outside the top four. Yes, very diplomatic.
Starting point is 01:19:01 Jorge Fernandez. Mayhem. No. B-Team? No. Does he beat Peter Mason? I don't know. I don't know why you've chosen Peter Mason. I don't know enough about Peter Mason to make
Starting point is 01:19:17 calls on people being better than Peter Mason. Individual quarterfinal 2024, 33rd. North America East. That's not very good. Nah. For someone like Jorge, I wouldn't be worried about that particularly. Cam Crockett.
Starting point is 01:19:35 Also competed at Zellos Games. V Team? No. Simone Galinas. No. Look, he competed at Water Palooza.
Starting point is 01:19:53 Okay, so let me just tell you. You have Dallin Pepper, Jason Hopper, Samuel Cornway, Austin Hatfield, Jeffrey Adler, Jack Farlow, Roman Krennikoff, Saxon Panczyk, Will Morad, Taylor Self, and Travis Mayer. That sounds like a pretty good list. On the B team, you have Luke Parker, Caron, Spencer Panchik, Jack Rosema, Alex Vigneault, and Bebe, Benoit Boulangerie. Bebe. You guys want to try to do the girls i'm i'm i can't jr how you doing
Starting point is 01:20:31 can we go a little bit faster okay okay that's tyler how he's doing how you doing tyler i'm holding on the best second can you say melatonin? The women in the East, by the way, we will as the week goes on, as we get closer, we will reconvene the group and we will start picking winners for the workouts. Jessica Kalijan, the Armenian superstar.
Starting point is 01:20:59 That's a Sentinel athlete, I believe. Oh, is it? 5'2", too small. Sorry, Jessica. Good pedigree, though. Brooke Wells. Yep.
Starting point is 01:21:12 11 girls going. We got the first one, Brooke. She's sus to me. I'm not sure. Yeah, to me, too. I don't trust her anymore. Sus to me. Sus. Good job.
Starting point is 01:21:24 Mary Helen Saunders 5'4 too small I mean 5'4 is not too small of a number doesn't even have a picture do you know her JR I do yeah she competed at Crucible
Starting point is 01:21:40 she's awesome she and Ashley Cope and Ellie Hiller, they're all really good friends. They're all Alabama girls. 18th, 18th in the quarterfinals. B-team? Ashley Wozni. Nope.
Starting point is 01:22:02 Man, I want her to go so bad. She would be she's right at that bubble you would be a star she would be as box office as colton or taylor anyone who will talk and say stuff i i she's she's one that i've really wanted to have at crucible that i haven't been able to get like i just think her personality is amazing and she's obviously really fit the white The white whale. Ashley, if we weren't an hour and 20, we'd be going over to your Instagram and perusing, trolling you. Calista Lang. 23, 5'4", 138.
Starting point is 01:22:34 No. I think she's going to be top 20, though. I think she's going to be in the mix. 16. I'm not just saying that because she finished third at Crucible. No, I agree. 16th in the quarterfinals. She's
Starting point is 01:22:48 very skilled, and we've seen that the gymnastics play a huge role in the overall programming for the females more so than the males. Because of that, I think she can make moves. Oh, I've seen this chick around forever. Chloe David Gavon
Starting point is 01:23:03 or Gavon David. She was on that move fast lift heavy team last year with Christian Harris and Will Carter and Winner Rodriguez and she went individual in 2018 Yep, she's a 13th North America East. Do we does she get to go on the list Chloe? Beavis Be oh really? Okay Chloe on the B, Chloe? B-list. Oh, really? Okay, Chloe on the B-team. Anyone have any issues with that?
Starting point is 01:23:29 No. Ashley and Chloe kicking it on the B-team. I think she is a former gymnast, but it's so – there's a lot of really, really, really good movers out there, but she's one of the best movers I've ever seen in my life. And that's everybody. It's just incredible how good everything looks that she does page simenza is only five three i'm taller than page i could swear when i interview her i'm looking up at her well i would guess Oh, well. I want to guess she's 5'9", 165.
Starting point is 01:24:08 Wow. Is Paige going back? I have her going in, yeah. Does she beat Brooke? No. She's going to have to dig herself out of a hole after the run, right? I think she'll do all right. Not great, but she'll do better than... I think she'll be like right. Like not great, but she'll do better than I think she'll be like 15 to 20th.
Starting point is 01:24:29 Do you think she goes? Yeah. Yeah. Logan. Philo. Philo loose. Philo loose. I don't know anything about her.
Starting point is 01:24:42 Me either. Five, two, one 50. I didn't know she was a girl. Well, now you know. 23rd North America East. Okay, so she doesn't get... Sorry, Philo.
Starting point is 01:24:54 It's a great name. Reese Littlewood. I just can't not think of Legally Blonde when I hear that name, and it's not even close to Witherspoon. She's 17. No go, right? Nope.
Starting point is 01:25:09 Carolyn Spencer? She'll be in the mix. I would say no, but I think she'll be in the mix. Didn't she go last year? I think she went two years ago. Her and Austin went together. Yeah, that was the year Austin qualified to the last chance qualifier. So I think that went two years ago. Her and Austin went together. Yeah, that was the year Austin qualified to the last chance qualifier.
Starting point is 01:25:27 So I think that's 2022. Alexis Raptus. B-team. You're out of your fucking mind. I'm just kidding. John, do you see Tia and Alexis in the same way that you see Laura and Gabby where it's just
Starting point is 01:25:51 them two and then everybody else or do you think there are other people that are yeah I think there are other people I think there are other people that are better is Emma Lawson better than Alexis Raptus it's one of the names you put Emma and Danielle in that category with Alexis yeah I would say it's Tia and then a next tier than alexis rapids that's one of the names um you put emma and danielle in that category with alexis
Starting point is 01:26:05 yeah i would say it's tia and then a next year and it would be alexis emma and danielle and i wouldn't be surprised if any of those like second through fourth could be any any shake up of those names um and then tia's in a tier of her own. And then there's a next tier drop-off after that. So you think Laura, Alexis, and Emma? Where is Laura coming in? Laura Horvath. Tia. No, I was basically asking him if he thought two women in the East kind of separate themselves in the same way that those two did in Europe.
Starting point is 01:26:44 For instance. And I agree. I just think this is way deeper and i think all of them are are super high level those top four and i and i wouldn't be like i wouldn't think it's crazy to put alexis raptus second i don't think it would be crazy to put emma lawson second i don't think it's crazy to put Daniel Brandon second I really do think there's a Tia and then there's a gap and then there's those Three and then there is Kind of a hodgepodge of
Starting point is 01:27:11 Who executes the best Like Lexi Neely 21 years old Took 102,022 in the quarter Finals 22nd 2023 and 12th In 2024 she's coming she's still got a ways to go b team c team wow okay c team i would say i i'm wondering if you guys think like last week we saw some no names or dark horses
Starting point is 01:27:48 show up but it was a much weaker weaker field to a degree but this this field so stacked and so professional and that they've been doing it for a long time they have a ton of experience do you guys think we do not see those surprise finishes there are two names that i think we will see that uh that people don't know and um i think one of them will get the last spot in and i think one of them will be like the last spot out in the women in the women in the women and like and like for maybe for you guys it, there's different names. For me, I'm looking for these two girls and everybody else is fake news. Maybe like unless we don't know about them and there truly is a Hattie
Starting point is 01:28:37 Cano situation, which I mean, I even said Hattie Cano. I think she's going to be good in the semifinal, but I didn't know. So if there's somebody that we don't know that shows up out of nowhere, I'm not putting that past happening. But for me, there's only two girls that I think are going to be a surprise that the majority of the population doesn't know. Alexa, can you please show me some porn? Alexa can you please show me some porn And they're not going to be near as high As Hattie Cano or Caitlin Bernadine
Starting point is 01:29:10 Like They're not going to make near as much News You know what I mean They're going to be very like Oh she's in 10th place Like you're not really going to think about them Until the last day
Starting point is 01:29:23 I wonder how Alexa responds When you ask for porn Like, you're not really going to think about him until the last day. I wonder how Alexa responds when you ask for porn. I really want to know how that went. You're not going to give us the names? We're going to wait until we see them? I will. Okay. Elizabeth Wishart.
Starting point is 01:29:39 She's been around for a long time, since 2015. 19th in North America East quarterfinals. She's a good smile Yeah great smile Great picture Okay she's not in Yeah Go ahead Annika
Starting point is 01:29:51 Annika Greer I have her as The second person out The second First person out B team B team Lydia Fish From Taylor Self vs. The World the second person out b team on it b team uh lydia fish from uh taylor self versus the world
Starting point is 01:30:09 this is one of the old this is one of the names what i know it was lindsey lane it was lindsey lane i'm sorry it was lindsey lane from kate taylor sorry lydia fish was that crash crucible and she um she got second to lindsey Correct, correct, JR? Correct. But she was kind of a home run hitter, very, very good at gymnastics. Other than Danielle Brandon, I think she'll get second place in the handstand walking one. I don't put it past Tia or some of those girls just to be fit enough that they row much faster than her,
Starting point is 01:30:44 but I would say but she's i would say that she's the second best person on her hands in the field and um yeah i would say look for her to have a similar performance to trista smith to trista smith yeah and that's and trista smith finished two spots out or like she was very very close to making it i think lydia fish will be very similar in this in this field lydia fish b team uh fisa coffee i have her in in easy not easy but hairball day hairball for touch and go i not quite touch and go either like she'll she just has to execute to her ability doesn't have to do anything crazy. As long as she doesn't have a tragic event where things go wrong,
Starting point is 01:31:30 I think she'll be in. We're almost done, people. We're almost done. Hang in there, JR. Hang in there. Now remember, if you need a refreshing uplift. Is it safe? Yes, it's safe.
Starting point is 01:31:44 It's very safe. So safe you wouldn't believe it. Is it safe? Will there be anyone at the Northeast semifinal with a larger hog than Tudor Magda in the stands or competing or anything? Thank you, Tyler, for weighing in. Thank you. Thank you. And that's why no one respects this show. John, what are you doing with these trash hats?
Starting point is 01:32:20 These slap dicks. Easy, Travis. You'll get them back easy did anyone keep Patrick Rios slapstick sticker I was wondering my I came home and my son walks over me and goes why does your son phone say slap dick
Starting point is 01:32:36 and all my boys start laughing someone put a slap dick on my that Rios did that yeah very I'll be very interested to see if Travis tries to have a deeper voice this week. I hope not. That would be so funny. You try to put a deep voice on when he's trying to commentate,
Starting point is 01:32:54 sound like Shaq. Travis just wants to protect your reputation. He's a good dude. Okay. My dear friend, colleague, a regular on the Sevan podcast, rock and body, Danielle Brannan. Yeah, I can't stand her avatar. What is that?
Starting point is 01:33:19 It's Jimmy Fallon. Is it? Maybe not. But yeah, she's going. Maybe not. yeah she's going Maybe not I have her second place Hottest chick in the world with the worst and ugliest avatar Congratulations Daniel A second place
Starting point is 01:33:35 What do you got her at Tyler? Like maybe fourth or fifth Okay JR? Either in second or third. You think she beats Raptors? Why don't you guys have Emma Lawson beating her? More workouts?
Starting point is 01:33:53 Like, Emma Lawson's going to beat her at the games, right? That's my top four. I haven't sat down and thought about who I would have where, but... John, Emma Lawson beats her at the games? Yeah, Brandon? Yeah. I would predict Emma Lawson to beat her at the games More workouts favor Lawson Yeah
Starting point is 01:34:12 Yeah I think Emma Lawson is just a little bit fitter than her And more events would show that Yeah Everything you just said, yes But on this semi-final I have Tia, Danielle Brandon, Emma Lawson, and Alexis Raptus. So Danielle Brandon, congratulations.
Starting point is 01:34:32 A Bailey... Bailey... Guys, it was a joke. Y'all are ridiculous. Bailey Maraviglia. Maraviglia. Bailey Maraviglia. I like it. She's going.
Starting point is 01:34:56 No, no. She's got nothing to lose. No swimmers are going. She's not going, right? Shelby Neal putting her on. Hard weekend for shelby really hey i think she's gonna show up for the rope climb she weighs 150 521 50 that's thick i got her i'm not guessing that you do have her in jr
Starting point is 01:35:23 just for just for me just for you is she your last spot um yeah i would say that she's she's one of the ones that goes into the finale having to do some work to hold her spot or to beat a few people but i i think she's in okay so bubble for sure the excitement's on shelby neal watch shelby neal yeah the bubble athlete for sure i i have her just out unfortunately emma lawson to do it 19 my god in like lit yeah i don't think people understand how impressive emma lawson is especially like between the ears. Is she really not dating Jack anymore?
Starting point is 01:36:10 Jack anymore? I have no idea. I read it in the comments, but she put a fire emoji on his most recent post. So I think they're still together. Oh, OK. OK, thanks. Don't mean to. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:36:22 She's mature enough. She seems mature enough. If they break up, she's still like, I think it would hurt Jack more than her. Puts the love on him. Why do you say that? You wish I wouldn't ask that, right? I'll strike it from the record. Fair enough.
Starting point is 01:36:37 Jer, why? Like she's the fittest, the fitter person in the relationship. It's like she, she brings home all the money and then they broke up. Oh dude. They don't, they, they haven't even held hands yet. These two are so square home all the money and then they broke up. Oh, dude. They haven't even held hands yet. These two are so square, Jack Farlow and Emma Lawson. Are you kidding me? Money. They haven't even shared a weight belt.
Starting point is 01:36:56 They have a seat between them at the movies. There ain't nothing wrong with that. Would you do this kind of work anymore if you were Jack? There's no way I wrong with that. Would you do this kind of work anymore if you were Jack? There's no way I would do that. That's a fair question. Do you know who Ian Gary is, the UFC fighter?
Starting point is 01:37:16 No. No. Katie Galore. Katie Galore. 5'6", 141. Golden Goose CrossFit. Great name. 38th North American. Sorry, Katie, you don't get no love. No.
Starting point is 01:37:32 Haley Adams. I'm excited to see Haley compete. Okay, let's be honest. Let's do it, man. 29th in the snatch ladder. No. No? She does better than that um yeah her max is 185 but that was a while ago so if if she can still if that's still her max i think she clears it and she has a better she has a better time than most she doesn't clear it. Does that just completely
Starting point is 01:38:05 fuck her head up or it doesn't matter last day? I think enough women won't clear it that she'll be fine. Does she destroy the first workout? Yeah. Obliterate it? Second place. Alright. JR? I think she finishes
Starting point is 01:38:21 the ladder like and it's not a question. If her snatch is still 185, 100% agree with you. Brianna Dunbar, 29, 5'10". Damn, she's tall. Dunbar.
Starting point is 01:38:37 Yeah, she's competed at Crucible a few times. 32nd in quarterfinals. Yeah, I think she'll do well in some workouts. Like you said, tall, powerful athlete. She's skilled, too. B team? C team. C team.
Starting point is 01:38:57 Elena Savage. Nope. No. Kaitlyn Nope. No. Kaelin Sanders. Sanders. No. She has a Taco Bell. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:11 Yeah. Hell yeah. I think she's on the B team. Christ. John, are you willing to make an exception for logos instead of pictures of other people? I don't know. The Taco Bell was so shocking. It's kind of winning me over.
Starting point is 01:39:28 Tia Toomey. Did she win it? Yeah. Runaway? Yeah. And I think after this semifinal, everybody's going to be like, what the heck? Kaitlyn Saunders, the fewest followers of any CrossFit athlete alive 695 Oh she's gonna do that
Starting point is 01:39:48 Good to me is gonna do that good Yeah like I think people are gonna be scared Of her like it's gonna be I think after This semifinal it'll be evident That the Laura Tia Conversation shouldn't even be happening I mean I know we're gonna try to hype it up Because you know we want people to view
Starting point is 01:40:04 It and get behind it and people to root for Laura to dethrone Tia even though Laura's the champion right now. But I think this semifinal, it'll be evident that Tia's that much better than everybody still. Jar?
Starting point is 01:40:24 Is the line five, John john two event wins five event wins well let's walk through them because danielle brandon's gonna win the handstand walk right four and a half uh so he won app just picked tia for all of them and then danielle for the hands i think the line's got to be four and a half because danielle brandon's gonna win the handstand walk this is a place where it sucks that we have it where you can just play anyone because it's like you just have to win them out at this point 100 you need it you need to do the two man rule forever i don't know why you ever got rid of it two plays who would win who would who would be your other winner
Starting point is 01:41:00 i feel like hayley maybe in event one uh other than that man uh rachel rachel fricker fricker well i wanted to answer that question nicoletta tori giani tori giani no too small. Carolyn Stanley. Oh, it'd be so cool. Didn't she make it last year? She's cool as shit. Yeah, she did. I think she's going to be right there.
Starting point is 01:41:32 I think she's going to be in the mix. C-team? Yeah, B-team. Shelby Neal beats her? Yeah, I think so. But they're going to be together. Carolyn Klutz. What a great name.
Starting point is 01:41:47 No, she's too klutzy too old master's athlete uh nina varagovic too european oh i don't know that could be a dark horse six five five one fifty mayhem those are good good uh anista aniston uh sudhoff. Two foreign. Five feet tall. I want to see these people's papers. Here we go. Here's number two. Coming up. Go ahead, Savon. Five feet tall. He doesn't know it's coming. Erica Folo.
Starting point is 01:42:20 Yolo Folo. This is where John is losing his touch. This is my last girl in Are you out of your fucking mind dude Look what she did in the quarterfinals She's 5'2 132 she's just nothing Dude
Starting point is 01:42:35 4th in North America East 7 pounds Of weight per inch And she trains with Emma Lawson. Hey, good job. Let's peruse this for a second, Caleb. Good job. Let me see.
Starting point is 01:42:50 I want to see her standing next to someone. She trains with Emma Lawson. Show me. Is that Chris Buehler in front of her? Okay, let me see some other pictures. Wait, is that Tucker? Tucker the fucker? No, I don't think it is, but it could be.
Starting point is 01:43:08 No. God, she doesn't look that short, dude. Yes, it's also CrossFit. Those dudes are... You think she's Hattie Cano of the East? I think she's the Hattie Cano of the East if Hattie, uh, can you have the, of the East? I think she's the Hattie can you have the East? If Hattie was the last spot in and not in first place for the majority of the competition. What do you know about her?
Starting point is 01:43:32 Jr. Zero. Oh yeah. Let me see that one. Tiny. Yeah. You know what tiny means? Really good at gymnastics.
Starting point is 01:43:42 Yeah. And not good at the bike. I don't know. Shelby Neal. She's YOLO FOLO. She'll send that bike. I'm telling you. Okay, we have a problem here.
Starting point is 01:43:54 Are we really picking her? John is. Stefan, are we really picking her? Oh, wow. She's my Hattie Canio. You don't have to pick her, but she's my Hattie Canio. I have her as the last spot in. Now, Clydesdale alluded to her being hurt,
Starting point is 01:44:12 and if that's the case, then I didn't know she was hurt. You had Caroline Spencer in or Caroline Stanley? Talking to JR? No, you. Who was our last one? I didn't have either. I had them on the B team. Look how professional her is. No, you had Carolyn Stanley in.
Starting point is 01:44:28 On the B team. Oh, okay. Okay, Caroline. Okay, on the B team. Okay. I'll rock a YOLO FOLO any day. Okay, we'll put her on there. FOLO. 10. Fine. Last spot, Jordan Svek.
Starting point is 01:44:45 Dana Peran. No. Talking about the men, Scott. Does she finish the snatch ladder? Yeah, she'll destroy that. I'm not thinking of Danny Peran. Danny Peran. Peran.
Starting point is 01:45:02 Danny Peran. But I think this Peran chick might be strong as shit i think she might be a brick shithouse she is i want to say she was a olympic weightlifter uh uh kira napoli amanda barnhart i have amanda in but i don't i'm i'm nervous about am Amanda because of the shoulder. Yeah. Because of the, yes, because of the shoulder. And I just,
Starting point is 01:45:30 we haven't seen a lot from her like at all. Um, you know, running's not her best forte. It's not like she's going to crush that event and we know it. Um, she should be good in the, I mean, you would think she'd be good in the legless rope climb workout,
Starting point is 01:45:43 but it, not her legless need to hold up and pulling capacity has been a weakness of hers that's just i think she'll be really really good at event six uh but it's um she's just hard she's hard to pick for because because we don't know the extent of her injury good at event six but it's 15 muscle ups and and i've i think i've heard her talk about the muscle-up as sort of maybe a testing point for her shoulder or a weak point for her shoulder. No, and that's the case.
Starting point is 01:46:12 And that's why I'm nervous to pick her. JR, is Amanda going? Yeah, I think she's going, but I'm right there with you. I mean, I'm curious to see how her shoulder's doing. And I'm with John. If I knew her shoulder was was 100 that's one of the only events that i could see anyone beating tia is would be the last one with her because she'll be the first off the bike if she can nine six the ring muscle ups and then lunch to the end
Starting point is 01:46:37 unbroken you know that gap she creates on tia from the bike, she might be able to hold on. Tyler Watkins, she going? I'm not so sure. My heart wants to say yes, but I'm nervous. You think she beats Carolyn Stanley? Carolyn Spencer? Ashley Wozni? Chloe Davi Gavon?
Starting point is 01:47:05 I think she could lose to Wozni. You think that she can be Carolyn Prevo? Yeah. Ellie Hiller. She's going to smash some workouts. If you're looking for a sleeper on Heat 1 for Event 1 and you don't want to pick Haley or Tia, pick her. She's very, very she's extremely extremely enduring and just good at it's really classic crossfit just not heavy stuff is this the girl who was on uh clydesdale podcast recently yeah yeah she's cool as shit
Starting point is 01:47:42 and she's she's awesome like she's she's one of my favorite athletes that come. She's, she's competed like three or four years at crucible. It's incredible. Like I, last year, she would not have qualified this year if they had the same cut line for semifinals.
Starting point is 01:47:56 And then she improved enough to make the cut this year. Um, it's like, she's always out running it, but like this, this weekend's not built for her. And she knows that Ellie was on Glinton's podcast too okay yeah do you think do you think do you think bernadin is a good comparison to her or no no not in size different sizes like strengths
Starting point is 01:48:19 not in stature but yeah i think so ellie's skilled though she's good at skills uh carolyn privo you so so you have carolyn just outside no i have carolyn in no there's not room for her who are your spots brooke wells page simenza alexis raptus fisa goffy danielle brandon shelby neal you probably didn't have shelby i didn't have shel Neal. Emma Lawson, Haley Adams, Tia Toomey, Amanda Barnhart. Okay, boys, we have a tough – So I'm Carolyn Prevost. Shelby Neal or Carolyn Prevost? Carolyn Prevost all day.
Starting point is 01:48:59 If I have to pick between the two. I'm going with Prebo. Make it stop, JR. JR. Yeah, I wouldn't disagree if I had to pick between the two. Shelby Neal. So Shelby Neal's at 12th, the gatekeeper. She got booted. And it's not it's not because Oh wow we got right down to the end there
Starting point is 01:49:27 I mean like women and men It's it's crazy How deep the field is and the fact That Asia gets three people And like it's It's it's it's terrible It's terrible I need that Button McKenna
Starting point is 01:49:44 Enslin the last athlete 21st North America East. I'll take Shelby Neal over DeJuan Jung any day of the week. I'm sorry, DeJuan. Okay. Brooke Wells, Paige Semenza, Alexis Raptus, Fisa Goffey, Daniel Brandon, sorry, Carolyn Prevost, Emma Lawson, Haley Adams, Tia Toomey, Folo Yolo, which is a huge mistake, Amanda Barnhart,
Starting point is 01:50:08 and then just outside the cut with her crying into her hands, Shelby Neal. Well, here, for you guys, you guys can take out Folo and put in Shelby Neal, and I'll have Folo just in mine. That's fine.
Starting point is 01:50:25 I think you left Shelby Neal out because she's black. Which is strange. Considering I'm darker than her. God, I really need Shelby Neal to go. It would make it 1% easier for me to get on a plane and go to Texas if Shelby Neal's there.
Starting point is 01:50:47 You don't want to experience the new venue? I do, but I want to see people I like to see. And I'd like to see her. I like working with her. I like putting the camera on her. She's cool shit. John, if Paige is in the field, who doesn't make it? Say that again?
Starting point is 01:51:00 If Paige is in the field, who doesn't make it? I'd probably take follow-up. Wait, I don't understand the question, JR. Say it again. If Paige Powers is in the field. Oh, oh, oh. Oh, God. Yeah, I'm probably taking follow out.
Starting point is 01:51:19 Maybe. I have to think about it. I got to run through the evidence. I mean, obviously she's not, and I shouldn't even play those hypotheticals, but think about how much better and deeper this field would be with think about it. I got to run through the events. I mean, obviously she's not, and I shouldn't even play those hypotheticals, but think about how much better and deeper this field would be with Paige in it. Like, it's crazy. Well, then there's just no spots.
Starting point is 01:51:33 And, like, if a Hattie Canyo showed up, they earned their spot more than any other person because – That's crazy. I wish you wouldn't have said that, JR. That's crazy that Paige Powers isn't there. But you could just send Tia to oceania where her division belongs and then and then you have that other spot anyway john was folo at that um games camp that you went to where you where you you got on kelsey keel's train in the case of kelsey keel train no she wasn't well something happened what who's this folo chick why are you on train? He just likes her name a lot.
Starting point is 01:52:07 No. Is that why? No, no. Something happened. She showed up. I think we're at a 7-Eleven or something. No, she showed up. And some people are saying she's out.
Starting point is 01:52:14 So, like, if she's hurt and she's out, I guess that I will pick Shelby Neal to be the last spot. I did have her the last spot out. So, like, it's... Who did you have? Erica Folo. No, who did you have as the last spot out. Who did you have? Erica Folo. No, who did you have as the last spot out? Shelby Neal.
Starting point is 01:52:29 Oh, okay. And then who did you have after Shelby Neal? I will have to look. Annika Greer. All right. And then Carolyn Stanley. And then Ellie Hiller. Is Annika Greer going to have just a horrible first event?
Starting point is 01:52:47 Yeah, it's going to be bad. I'll be – I mean – She needs Colton's running coach. I heard she's been running for – I mean, I'm sure she's been running all year long. I hope she crushes it. It would be cool to see her go out and do really well in that. It would be.
Starting point is 01:53:04 If she gets – I mean, if she got like a top 15 in that event, then I think she crushes it. It'd be cool to see her go out and do really well in that. It would be. If she gets, I mean, if she got like a top 15 in that event, then I think she can make it. But that running event is one of the main reasons I have her out. She'll crush event two. Did I skip someone? Is there a Fergie? I didn't mean to skip anyone. I think I got everyone.
Starting point is 01:53:24 McKenna Enslin, Carolyn Prevost, Ellie Hill, Amanda Barnhart, Kira Napoli, Dana, Horan. Jess Kalagian.
Starting point is 01:53:31 No, we talked about her. We did. You did. She was the very first athlete. That's Mason's girlfriend. Oh, dude,
Starting point is 01:53:38 let me tell you something. I would love it if she made it, dude. I would fucking, I love your girlfriend. I love your girlfriend more than she loves you the um with erica folo she was fourth in the quarterfinals and i had no idea who she was and i was like who is this it's probably like miriam and it doesn't matter but
Starting point is 01:53:59 then i jumped on the miriam train and i shouldn't have. I went with my heart and it just stabs me. I think her name's Miriam. I think it's pronounced Miriam. I'm obligated to say Miriam until she makes the games. I'm not going to say her name right until she makes the games. Alright, fine. Sorry, my bad. And that R-H combo is going to get harder every year.
Starting point is 01:54:21 She doesn't make it. Anyway, so then I tried to look up things about Erica Folo and I didn't tried to look up things about Erica Folo, and I didn't know a lot of things about Erica Folo. And then I found out she trained with Emma Lawson. And people in Emma Lawson's camp are saying, like, yeah, she's the real deal. And just like Chris Ibarra, where, like, there were rumblings where, like, hey, this guy is the real deal.
Starting point is 01:54:40 People just don't know him. And I've heard the same thing about her, and that's why I'm on the train. Now, I'm not. She's no Austin Hatfield. But I just think that she's going to be a name that we start hearing about. What's Travis think about Folo? I don't know. Should we ask him?
Starting point is 01:54:59 What's Travis think about you calling Miriam Mirhelm? I don't care what Travis thinks, man. All right. That's on Wednesday's show. Not cool, John. All right, guys. J.R., thank you. Tyler Watkins, thank you. There you go. There's the list. Northeast is going to be amazing. Make sure you go over and check it out. Tickets still available.
Starting point is 01:55:20 It's going to be a fantastic event. The boys will be there. Thank you to CA Peptides and Paper Street Coffee Were you going to say something, JR? No, sir The name of the event is the Knoxville Throwdown No, don't tell me Syndicate Crown
Starting point is 01:55:39 There you go That was crazy And we're no longer doing Shut Up and Scribble from inside the venue. We're now in the parking lot. Yeah. Where you belong. Did you get kicked out? You got kicked out.
Starting point is 01:55:56 Yeah, because 7-1 just called it the Knoxville Throwdown. And listen, the Kill Taylor will be going down Thursday. I don't know where and i don't know what time it's 9 30 or um 10 30 chase hill his gym's right outside of knoxville i think jr i think taylor said he's and do it at the house. Anyway. Love you guys. I was looking for the QR code for the Syndicate Crown. Anyway. It's going to be amazing.
Starting point is 01:56:36 Have a great evening. Talk to you guys later. See ya. Buh-bye.

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