The Sevan Podcast - Greg Glassman - Kenny Kane | Los Angeles Fires Front Row Seat

Episode Date: January 18, 2025

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Starting point is 00:01:34 Uh-oh. Does this show public? Something's not right. Uh-oh. Check, check. Oh, there we go. It's weird. Usually, where's the comment that says first? Every morning there's a comment in here that says, I'm first.
Starting point is 00:01:54 I don't see it this morning. It makes me think something's not working right. Can't post comments to same destination. Learn more. Oh, okay. Am I actually the first to chat? Wow. Guys, you guys scared the shit of me 37 seconds usually I come in here and there's all sorts of noise already because I'm starting the shows an hour early
Starting point is 00:02:17 mmm good morning Christine hi Brian hi Deja Darryl 14. 14th, 14th first. Good morning. X is on but not on YouTube. No shit. Is that really true? No, YouTube's on because these comments are coming from YouTube. God, you scared the shit out of me. I do not want to have to reload this show. It's gonna be a good show today. Greg in the first hour and then Kenny Kane in the second hour. And if I'm tracking the story right, unfortunately Kenny had a front row seat to the LA fighters.
Starting point is 00:02:56 And I do believe his gym and his home went down, which is just absolutely wild. But I am excited to hear the play by play to hear how that whole thing unfolded, where he was, like what that to just hear the timeline and kind of trying to get a feeling of what that was like. Because it's nuts. It's nuts. I spoke to him yesterday very briefly or I text with him yesterday very briefly and he said he was doing an interview with Anderson Cooper so that's kind of cool that his story is getting out there and it's getting that that
Starting point is 00:03:32 kind of notoriety. Oh I need to make sure I have the link for the... I need to make sure I have the link for their GoFundMe. I definitely want to pull that up today. I wonder how that thing's doing. How do I find that page again? Where do I go? GoFundMe, type in Highland, Thomas Highland, is that? Fundraiser, Jamie Highland, maybe I have to type in Thomas Highland. Rebuild, oh there it is. Let's see how it's doing. Oh 52,000. That's awesome. All right. Maybe we go, let me see if, let me see if I'm, let me see if I'm still the top donation. Wow, not even close. Oh this is awesome. There's a guy named Roland Weinstein, Jew. Look Look at Jews representing donated 5,000. That's awesome. And then, uh, another person named Daniel, uh, Roland Weinstein comes to save the day.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Daniel Poneman, Pone, uh, and then Alex Bentley, 2,500. And then I'll keep, look, I'm not even, I didn't even, I'm not even on the, damn. Elena shut Eric Moreno. Shoot. This is great. There I am. That's Monica Deshmukh, John Drill, Keith Fielding, Don Fall. All right, this thing's doing good.
Starting point is 00:05:02 200,000 more to go. That'll pay a mortgage for a month in LA. That's true. That's true. All right. Okay. Let's see. I wonder if Greg's coming on today.
Starting point is 00:05:19 I think there's always a little confusion of time when I'm in a different time zone. But he is just coming on for an hour today. But if he doesn't come on, it's fine. We'll get through this. Christine, they're all getting $770 so it will be fine. Was something said like that or is that a joke regarding North Carolina? Was that said? Was it talked about about giving money to all the people in LA?
Starting point is 00:05:50 Is that actually, I've heard that a few times now. Only people who know what CrossFit is will donate money. You're not going to like Justin Maderas grew up in a CrossFit gym. That's why he donate money. You're not gonna like like Justin Medeiros grew up in a CrossFit gym. That's why he gave money. You're never gonna see money from a Craig Richie or you know, no one else is gonna do anything. They don't give a fuck. They don't give a fuck. They just harvest the fruit from the trees and they have no they have no concern about the the larger ecosystem. I read a comment today it says, oh I'm so glad this board is separating from the methodology. It is not. It is not. That is true. Oh, I need to Google that. Is that really true? What would I type in? Biden's $770 California. That really is true. Biden announces $770 checks for residents impacted by California.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Wow. Oh, one time. Wow. That is wild. I don't know how things are in the rest of the country, but things are really expensive in California. When I got here to, I'm in Arizona, but I went grocery shopping and filled four bags full of food here in Scottsdale and it was 400 bucks.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Biden announced a $770 check for residents impacted by California wildfires. That's funny. I hadn't seen this. Federal government will provide one-time payments of 770 people impacted by the ongoing California wildfires so they can pay for essentials like baby formula, prescriptions, clothing and food. Biden made the announcement Thursday evening during a briefing from the Oval Office. According to the president, nearly 6,000 people had been approved to receive the payments thus far, leading to a total of $5.1 million. Wild. You know they have programs in San Francisco that pay more to that. They have a universal income programs for like Trane's and like Oakland
Starting point is 00:07:56 or in San Francisco that pay more than that. Monthly payments to these people just because I don't know. I don't know what the because is. Absolutely wild. Federal Emergency Management Agency FEMA Administrator Dina Krizlo indicated during Monday briefing that a total of 33,000 people have been impacted by the California fires had requested federal assistance. Boy oh boy. this is gonna be interesting to see how this plays out. I wonder if this is enough to turn the state red.
Starting point is 00:08:31 I really wonder. Brandon Dorman was great on Pedro's show yesterday. Great dude, sounds like Max Hodge fucked him. I watched the first 30 minutes of it. I really liked it. Then when they started talking about CrossFit, I lost interest. You know, like when they started talking about the working out stuff. Did they circle back around and talk about his plans? I'd like to have... what's his name? Brannon? I'd like to have him on the show. I like the dude. I think he's cool as shit. I think he's cool as shit.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Uh, isn't it a loan? You have to pay it back if you take it? Oh man. Oh, look at this. Look at this. Someone just sent me a, um... Oh, this is awesome. Oh, let's watch this. This is, uh... This is Kenny... Oh shit, he was on the ground with Anderson Cooper. Is this? Oh, let's watch this really quick. Let's watch some of this. Someone just sent me a link to Kenny Kane with Anderson Cooper on the ground. Look at him. He's holding a
Starting point is 00:09:36 mic and everything. This is killer. Where we at, as I said, there are 5,300% fire. Can you guys hear it? What's going on here? How come I can't hear that? You can't hear sound from Vimeo? Could you guys hear that? I'm going to play it again. Tell me if you can hear it.
Starting point is 00:09:56 The fire is just in the Palisades area working to try to find these hotspots and again the concern, the wind tomorrow. That's weird. Let me see if I can do something about that. How about now? Once you meet Kenny Kane, Kenny, your house was just over there, half a mile from town. You have a gym in Santa Monica. Can you guys hear that a little bit? It's a little low, right?
Starting point is 00:10:26 You can't hear it at all now? Your house was destroyed. How is your family? I can hear it through my headphones now. Okay, at this point, I mean, the first inventory that you take is everybody's safe. It was pretty scary. It's low for me too.
Starting point is 00:10:42 The day of, but once we all got together, that's the first thing that you just. It's low for me too. Oh this is someone filming a TV set. All right we'll have him on later. Still very low I know that I think it's because someone just recorded with their phone a TV set Damn Wild I have something funny to show you guys. I was hoping to wait till Greg got here so I could show him, too This is a mate. This is amazing what I'm about to show you. So there's this website, it's called Ready LA, and they're doing updates from everything from regarding the fire. And they have like firemen talking and like all the city people
Starting point is 00:11:42 come on here and they do a little talk and give you an update on what's going on right so this is five days ago now imagine imagine your house burned down so you're gonna let's say you're tracking this Instagram account right your house burned down and this is where you come to for your news for your source for any updates where's the money coming from how are the fire trucks doing? What are the winds doing? What's the city doing? What are the Savior's doing? Right? This is the place you come. So when you click on this, all you want is, okay guys, this is where the fires are. West Hollywood, Palisades, and Santa Monica all are 22% contained. We're expecting big wins tomorrow. What we recommend for you is we have shelters
Starting point is 00:12:26 That's all you'd want from them, right? You don't need anything else You want any small talk? You don't want any bullshit, right? This is I hate to use this term I hate I hate to use this term. Hey, how are you? Sorry. Hey good morning. No, not, I know it's always weird when the times are different. Yeah. How are you?
Starting point is 00:12:52 Good. What are reaction effects? I just got to notice the Google Chrome, which I try not to use, but I have to for your show. after you for your show. I have to click this. So I want to add more impact to my gestures. No, don't do that. That's, that's probably the thing I don't want to do. They have this thing where if you go like this, it does the thumbs up. Or if you go like this, it makes thumbs up or if you go like this it makes hearts. I turn my head yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Yeah. Yeah. It's funny we live in this world with technical tech all these crazy technological advancements flying cars and fucking flamethrowers and then they got that cheese dick shit. I don't know. I don't like. Go ahead. We watched the jub juvenileization of music. Yes.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Where the, the enough of the music industry was captured by people under 13 that everyone had to be very careful about what they said. Yes. And then it happened to the movie industry. And it's, it's kind of going that way with technology. In other words, the TikTokers are, there's more worth there than you realize. Hey, I remember, you remember,
Starting point is 00:14:15 do you remember how startled I was and caught off guard when Goon came to see us and they, their opening line is, we run the two most popular search engines on the planet. Yes. And I'm like, no, you don't, you know, right? Yeah. What's the second one? It was YouTube. I'm like, that's not a search engine. And they go, it's, it's used by 60% of people under 25. And I'm like, those fucking idiots, you're shitting me. 60% of people under 25 and I'm like those fucking idiots you're shitting me. Yeah, I saw recently a stat that
Starting point is 00:14:49 YouTube has passed Google as a search engine Well, I went home and tested it. Have I told the story too many times? No, please tell it again I'm not sure where you're going with this, but I remember that Concept and I was thinking of just some things that I had been kind of Googling and gone down rabbit holes on. And one was the 11th Amendment or Equal Protection Clause, whichever that one was of the Constitution, Equal Protection Clause. And so I was like, let's see what they got on that.
Starting point is 00:15:17 And I was like, oh, this is really good. I was also at a period of teaching myself to read music and play the piano. Remember that? That's still going on by the way. Yep, yep the way. Yep. Yep. Yep.
Starting point is 00:15:26 And I was really impressed with what I saw. And having the attention span, I do. I kind of looked at the shorter videos and tried to judge from books by the cover. But what was immediately impressive is that there was an extraordinary range of talents chiming in from low tech, a guy's got a broom, like a broomstick hold the iPhone up in a closet writing on a chalkboard he's
Starting point is 00:15:50 holding to animated features, you know? Right. And it was so impressive. But then the real test for me, okay, well, it may be on on reading music and, and the 11th Amendment to Equal Protection Clause. Is and the 11th amendment to the equal protection clause, is it the 11th? Why is that bugging me? 13th? I don't care, it's probably my problem. But the real test for me to get this thing's bona fides
Starting point is 00:16:20 was the test on current events. And I put in the Nicomott shooting and that was just hot on the news wasn't really even full cycled up. And it was important to me because we'd had our encounters at the Nickamott in Kenya. And so sure enough, not only did they have, I found a news, sure enough, not only did they have, I found out news, some reporter was sending stills via YouTube channel uploaded to a news agency. And the pictures were unbelievable. And they even revealed some guys that I had met from Israeli Foreign Service in Jacksonville. I saw them in the photo. So I'm like, wow, the Jews are in the house. The Israelis are there early.
Starting point is 00:17:09 That's its new story in and of itself. The pictures were unbelievable. What I saw was the kind of stuff you'd never catch on news. And that was mind boggling to me. The recentness of it, the grotesqueness of it, and the revelation of people I knew were there. And all of that was a shock to me to find on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:17:28 And so in that, that morning it surpassed Google as a search engine. I don't know how the world works. You know what I mean? I don't know what everyone does when they get up in the morning, just the few kids I got and my misses. People have been telling me recently that I'm two years behind if I'm still using Google or searches that basically there's other places to go now
Starting point is 00:17:51 that everyone's going chat, like AI stuff. Well, I just got my Facebook page up and no one's coming. Okay. You have no friends, you have zero friends? Yeah, I banked early on Facebook. No, no, what was the other one? My page. MySpace. I met some guy who is a billionaire in the health insurance industry and he was running by how excited he was to be such an early developer on a platform,
Starting point is 00:18:23 early participant or financial backer on a platform, early participant backer, financial backer on a platform. And he describes the whole thing. You think he's describing Facebook, but he's not. He was describing, what is it? MySpace? MySpace. MySpace.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Hey, didn't Fox, didn't Fox or someone buy MySpace for some crazy amount of money like a month before it collapsed or something? Isn't there some crazy story? You know what would be fun to do would be to get on there and see who the diehards are. They haven't missed a minute and kind of one minute when we're wondering where everyone is for the past 15 years. They're still on there. Yeah, yeah, just putting up pictures and just going nuts. I don't even know if that what happens to platforms like that when they die?
Starting point is 00:19:05 Who maintains them? Oh, it's still around. It's still around. I just clicked MySpace. It's still around. I'm thinking the wind's going to blow the other way. Maybe it will. Wild.
Starting point is 00:19:14 I only bring it up because I heard everyone that Taylor Swift has a big page there now and everyone's running over there. To MySpace? Uh-huh. Oh, that's hilarious. No, I made it up. Let's see what happens if that doesn't... Oh. It looks like it's a...
Starting point is 00:19:32 It looks like it's really music-centric. Interesting. It's cool. I just remember someone bought it right before it collapsed. And the only thing is, I was going to start an Instagram page and put some, some, and use it like a Twitter page though, and use script, but put the, the basic kind of underlying concepts behind my philosophy of science up and find the dirtiest gas station I possibly could and do it in the mirror in the bathroom with lipstick. Yes
Starting point is 00:20:13 So i'm really combining a whole bunch of creative. It's creative, right? Yes There's no one else finding dirty bathrooms to put lipstick up to do instagram uh tweets Installation art installation art bathrooms to put lipstick up to do Instagram tweets. Installation art, installation art. You leave it in fact. God, that would be, it's a great juxtaposition of just the grotesque part of society and the intellectual tip of the spear. And a weird kind of view on social media there's people there's very successful
Starting point is 00:20:48 accounts that are just text can't think any off the top of my head but i've seen them on instagram yeah there were people just right not on mirrors with lipstick memes yeah or or or just um uh you know daily sayings i think I see it more in the self-help realm. You know what I mean? Yeah. Take two breaths this morning. Think of three people. Twitter wouldn't be good for that. Think of three people you love. Twitter?
Starting point is 00:21:15 Yeah. Yeah, Twitter would be great for it too. I thought you said Instagram. Twitter would be even better for it. Twitter is explode. Dude, we're putting, I can't believe how many listeners we have on Twitter now. It's nuts. We used to have none. Now we get like about a hundred per show live viewers per show. I was thinking of Dustin off the old Twitter account. Did you remember your last post?
Starting point is 00:21:36 Yes, I do. As a matter of fact, hard to mention. Hey, get Elon to just put me right back. I'll just, I'll just work in from where I was. What was your account? What was it? CFCEO? Yeah, two bad days. You know, I didn't pick that that was set up for me. So you really don't have a Twitter account now? Like... No, the Broken Science Arm had one too. That was picking up ahead of steam. It was kind of interesting.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Dude, you should definitely start a Twitter account and post every day. It is Twitter is so fun. I just started using it. I think it's so fun. It's cool. And I don't hang out there like I do on Instagram. I go to Instagram for news and shit, but on Twitter I just post and it's fun. It's like getting shit off my chest. I was clearly enjoying it when the worst case scenario happened or best case scenario. I was like, got a 200 foot wave. Sean Lenderman, Seve, I tagged you in a hilarious shit on Twitter all the time. Do you ever see any of it? I don't even know. I don't know how to use Twitter that good. I wouldn't
Starting point is 00:22:44 know how to go find a place where someone tagged me. Yeah, he says my Twitter coach Yeah, I'm a beginner Twitter coach I Never used vine the app that will never be recreated is vine that was a time we will never get back I remember the vines were cool though My space was cool. You got to put your friends in the order of best to worst. Oh, that's healthy. So everyone had to compete to try to get into your top five friends list. Holy shit. Wow.
Starting point is 00:23:22 I don't know how to reply to a tweet. If I knew how to reply, I would. I don't really understand the, um, it's not Twitter's not intuitive for me. Like every time I click the bubble button, I think I'm going to go to where all the comments are. From that last comment, does everyone reply? I mean, are you supposed to reply? I don't know. Oh, that's how Justin Bieber was discovered Vine, huh? Wow. By replying? No, just on Vine.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Yeah, Diddy saw him and saw he had a certain something, something he'd love to get his hands on, right? Someone did. I can't remember who. I think he was selling, singing a... It was P. Diddy, no? What was the fat girl's name who sings the song, Hello? I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Hello, is it me? Well, no, no, that's... Yeah, I remember that, yeah. I think maybe that was Christa Berg. No. What song am I thinking of? Adele, Adele. Oh, Steve Pfister is saying that Usher. Usher found him but I think he was singing an Adele song on a piano or
Starting point is 00:24:31 something. That's what I thought. Did Usher take take him over to Diddy's? I know he made visits. That's the story. The story is that he was ass pounding Usher, did he? And that Bieber brought him over there to get some relief, some backside relief. I mean that's the... if you go on YouTube... Usher's Canadian, right? And so is Bieber. That I don't know. I saw Usher in the montage once.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Parmesh jumped on him in the elevator. Did he kick at him? No, he pet him actually. It was kind of crazy. He was, we, Haley and I entered the elevator and he was in there holding a cup of tea and he was singing. He was actually singing when we went in. And then Parmesh jumped on him and he kept singing and pet Parmesh.
Starting point is 00:25:22 He just stroked the top, bent over and stroked the top of his head while singing yeah while singing just the whole thing it was crazy your story could be usher was saying for my dog it could be what do you call it if he's petting his fucking head and singing it yeah it's a good point when he bent over to pet him did his head go down closer to the dog When he bent over to pet him, did his head go down closer to the dog? Uh, yeah, but he's a little man. He's little. Oh, Usher is? Yeah, little. Your dog's little. My dog's very little. 14 pound dog, 16 pound man.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Really? I had no idea. I thought he was nine feet tall or something. No, well, if he, what, he didn't look at to me, he looked like a petite little man. Let me see. Uh, how tall is Usher? How tall is Usher? Oh, it says 5'8". He was petite. So it's 5'5". Yeah, good point. Diddy's 5'10". Perfect. Perfect bend over height. Hey, when I see you today, let's set up a Twitter account for you. Yeah, let's do it. What could happen?
Starting point is 00:26:34 If Seve says you're little, you're little. Yeah, that's true. Seve, when you and I go out in public, we're little. Like, it's rare that we'd see grown men shorter than us. But if I sit here at my keyboard, I learned that everyone's little. I think guys with shorter stature are achieving more than guys of higher stature. Especially if you take basketball out of the math. I did see some stat once that for every... Putin the little guy.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Who? Putin. See how tall Putin is. He looks. Now take six inches, it'll be some Russian figure. You get your head chopped off for calling it wrong. Putin's 5'7". There you go.
Starting point is 00:27:21 And so he's 5'5 or four, right? Yeah. And how about Kim Jong-un? I so he's five, five or four, right? Yeah. And how about Kim Jong-un? Oh, I hope he's short. Kim Jong-un. Oh, of course he is. Now, of course, he's going to list himself. He probably had all the rulers stretched. Five, seven. Okay. And now let's go to Xi Jinping.
Starting point is 00:27:39 I think he's tall. You just see him that way. I don't want to tell you how I spell Xi Xi Ping's name. Jesus. Xi Xi weird enough. Wasn't always that way either. That's some new shit. Is that true? I think so.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Like Beijing was Peking. Oh. It says he's 5'11". Oh and then here somewhere else it says 5'9". Business Insider says 5'9". BBC's got him at and Wikipedia's got him at 5'11". I saw something once that said for every inch taller you are as a man, you make like 1.8% more on average money. And it started like at five, two. Is that is that's that's age adjusted? Uh, Probably not.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Well, then you've got fourth, fifth, sixth and seventh graders in their allowance going up in there. Yeah, good point. Good point. It was business insider. They didn't they didn't adjust. They just they don't adjust anything. Uh, Did greg comment on taylor up puking in his garage? I don't know if greg no, did you know taylor threw up in your garage? I heard that I mean Taylor threw up in your garage? I heard that. I mean, he threw up in a box. Was it empty?
Starting point is 00:29:11 There was a plastic bag in there that he quickly tried as he was puking, someone kicked him a plastic box as he bent over or a cardboard box. And there was a plastic bag in it and he tried to stretch the plastic bag over the box. What was security doing? Just standing around laughing? Yes. He was, he was, he was red. I mean, he, it was one of those things he finished the workout. He didn't move for 10 minutes and then he got up and it wasn't a, um, it was
Starting point is 00:29:38 like a South park puke. He just opened his mouth and like the drip. It was, it looked like a monster was dripping out of his bag. Like some kind of weird cat puke yes it was he wasn't like convulsing or anything he was just like coming up yeah the way it was presented to me it it made it kind of cool it was cool because like ret came in or maybe it was reason or maybe it was reason. Robbie came in and said there's a dead guy in the garage. He looked at, I got up, I was worried.
Starting point is 00:30:11 I got up from my seat and went over and checked on him. I was worried. Robbie said, you have a dead guy in your garage and walked off. And I'm like, what, Robbie? Where'd Robbie go? And then Maggie goes, it's just Taylor Taylor and I just immediately saw that it was it's art. How often were people puking in the old Santa Cruz gym? Did you get a puke a month?
Starting point is 00:30:39 Is that often? You know I think everyone had to kind of figure it out once or twice. There weren't people that puked all the time. It was just you came there and one day you kicked your own ass too hard. Yeah, there were a lot of early exposures that Highbarger, Jason had taken class of new people and get 80% of them to puke and be all fucking brag about it. And he was artistic so he'd have these, he'd build a really overly meticulous leaderboard that he'd come in early and set up, right? And then there was a column at the end. I left once and left them in charge of some classes and I come back and the classes are like,
Starting point is 00:31:20 there's no one there. And I was like, was this even going on when we were gone? And I checked the base camp and everything looks good. I mean, but there were for each of the weeks we were gone, there were fewer people in the class. So it was having a pretty dramatic impact on business. And then I come into the gym and I see one of these leaderboards like he was doing he used to do them at first on the whiteboards he would use electrical tape to make the lines. Oh solid.
Starting point is 00:31:53 I was like this is great. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. You're gonna do that for long. And and it was his, really sweet leaderboard, and there was all the names up there,
Starting point is 00:32:07 and then the workouts, some explanation, and then he had a column at the end, and he had drawn with the Sharpie of Puke and Clown, did a remarkable job of it, a little square like this, and then there were check marks in the boxes. And so it was an intensity fest where one of the achievements was to get your crown on the way out was to puke.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Wow. And that inspired a little talk and some explanations as to what people come back for. Was Pukey around then? Was Pukey a mascot by that point? Yeah, I mean, it's on the yeah. The puking, I mean it happened. Right, right. I mean he, Taylor said he kind of knew basically the workout was 150 burpee pull-ups for time.
Starting point is 00:33:06 And he said- What does that look like? Can you add the pull-up to the burpee? Are you jumping under a bar? Yeah, that bar in your garage, I think it's 91 and a half inches. And he did a burpee and then jumped up and grabbed it. And like, however, if the more, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:21 the more athletic you are, the less pull-up you do. And definitely he got, you know, by the time he did his last 50, he was catching the bar on a bent arm position. So he was, he was getting better, but the last 25, he said he knew he could go to blackout mode or puke mode or pull off. So he just chose kind of the middle puke mode. It's a tough kid. Did someone beat it?
Starting point is 00:33:42 No, not even close. People didn't even finish it. Like the four people that tried it, they didn't even... It was how many? 150. Yeah, that's a lot. That's excessive. Yeah, he said it and he's... Afterwards, I asked him, he said at 90, he was like, man, I should have done 100. This is, I mean, a bad, bad place. He didn't stop though once. I mean, you know, he kept a cadence,
Starting point is 00:34:07 but that's that we've now seen him do workouts 34 weekends in a row and I've never seen him like that. I mean, he was, he was writhing for 10 minutes. He was in a bad place. You know, there's actually, this is an interesting thing in programming. You know, if you don't, if you don't make it, how do I put this? The most exciting visually in terms of good horse race, right? Really close. Are those, are those tighter wads,
Starting point is 00:34:41 their lower volume kind of workouts. Yeah. We're trying to protect, we're trying to protect the house money. Oh, I see. I get that for sure. You know what I mean? So like, and since he goes first, everyone gets to kind of figure out his game plan. So he tries to pick shit that's just like right, like either in his wheelhouse or a place where he knows other people don't want to go. Right. Like he you know what's crazy is he picked one weekend he picked this workout that we
Starting point is 00:35:12 thought no one could beat him in. It was a swim workout so you had to go somewhere and find a swimming pool right and it was I can't remember it was like swim 50 meters 20 bur, five rounds or something like that. And some fucking guy from the Navy. Called in, set up his camera next to a pool and beat him. It was nuts. That's cool. Yeah. Hey, my my literary calendar says 732 a.m. Yep. And it says it's 732.
Starting point is 00:35:42 He suffered a fatal stroke. Who is it? I don't know. Stephen King, it. Oh, wow. Hey, tell me the name of that calendar. People have been asking me about it. I don't know. It's cool as fuck. I'm gonna tell you, so I'm name of that calendar. People have been asking me about it. I don't know. It's screwed as fuck.
Starting point is 00:36:05 I'm gonna tell you. So I'm gonna go to Amazon. Yeah, literary quotes calendar. Yeah, I can't believe how many people are asking me, sending me DMs asking me about this because you mentioned it once. It's fucked as fuck? Yeah, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Literary calendar. He was taken from me by the inscrutable decree of the Almighty on the fifth of this morning at 33 minutes past seven in the morning and died in peace of an influential attack of the chest. Maybe I have to put electron. Martin's the sin of Gustav. That thing doesn't have a brand name on it because I don't see it. I put electric literary calendar. It's basically just like a little iPad that's on a stand. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'll find it.
Starting point is 00:37:10 It's super cool. I need to start an Amazon store where I just put it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd help you put your cool shit on it. Yeah, and I'll just put anything you recommend, I'll just put on there. We can put it. We could do books.
Starting point is 00:37:23 That book selected Amazon reviews is genius. If I put that up, I think I have. Electronic Literary Calendar. Digital Calendar. How much was it? Was it expensive? It was a gift. God, that's a good gift. People are always asking, what do you buy Greg? I'm like, I don't know. No fucking idea. Someone scored. Emily got it for me. Yeah. She got on your desk. That's cool. Here, let's see what this is. I was kind of a calendar. It's a clock. Maybe that helps. Stephen Dix. Can you ask? Oh, you did. Yeah, small author clock by Jose Cardona and Luke Gray. Oh, there's literary clock standard gifts. Uncommon goods. Oh, I should have put clock literary clock. Yeah, I
Starting point is 00:38:24 was saying calendar. I think it was. Oh, there's have put clock, literary clock. Yeah, I was saying calendar. I think it was. Oh, there's a lot of Jesus clocks pop up. I still can't find it. I'm looking right here. Oh, here's. Oh, they got, there's a bunch of varieties of them. Oh, there's a bunch of varieties of them.
Starting point is 00:38:49 All right, someone used it. It's called Author Clock, my particular one. What, say the name again? Author, like the author of a book? Yeah, yeah, Author Clock. Okay, now I think I got it. Drawn from 13,000 classics over the past six centuries. Maybe she didn't get it from Amazon. Maybe not.
Starting point is 00:39:09 It's cool though. Now I'm looking at Uncommon Goods as a website. But it's the exact one. Okay. Now you guys know Uncommon Goods,ary Clock. UncommonGoods.com. I think it's a lot cheaper somewhere else just in my quick search. But anyways, it's, I can't keep my eyes off of it. What was that store that was big in the 90s and they supposedly sold like really cool
Starting point is 00:39:41 shit but it was really just junk? I don't know, but my whole family, we all missed the Amazon retail store that was in the mall here. Oh, they got rid of that, huh? It was all like five star super items. God, what was that store? They sold like spy pens and sharper image.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Do you remember sharper image? Yeah, there's better one. Jim Watt turned me on to a store in a mail order store in Miami. And he said the government buys all kinds of shit from there. Like if they're going to slap a tracking device on your car, the department is likely to order it from these people is to requisition it through, you know. Yeah, that's cool.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Patrick that David had like a spy expert on and he was showing all sorts of crazy shit. Like just basically ways you could just break into anybody's computer like little like basically you should never use any plug or cord from anybody like he was just showing cords that you could buy and if someone uses it and plugs into their computer you uh and you're near them you can just jump on the same wi-fi network as them and use their computer like it's yours. You know when you go to put in a password and there you just see those fuzzy dots where you're replacing them with get with numbers or letters.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm talking about? Yep. Yep. Redhead will cut and paste that into another browser and pop up a password. Cut and paste the URL. Yeah, that thing you see that look at your there's someone's password. What am I going to do? Yeah, copy that string of fuzzy dots. Oh, exported elsewhere, paste and they did. It's not fuzzy. Oh shit. Oh shit. I know. Instead of clicking this button that says show password, you can just copy and paste it. Or instead of trying to guess it and put something in, it's there waiting for a prompt. He just captures the what it looked like, you know. The screen's filled with these little dots and as you put in
Starting point is 00:41:53 S-E-V-A-N they go away and become numbers. Yeah. He just copied them and put them somewhere else and it showed up as Maggie's password. That's genius. One of this crazy chick we knew that was fun until she had too much to drink. One of her kids was doing something with the power as something was booting and it would every once in a while boot without the password on email, on Gmail. Oh Jesus. And I go, you can't do that. And then I watched, I'm watching,
Starting point is 00:42:35 I'm watching about 10 minutes of watching and I'm ready to give up. Boom, it worked. Kids, I don't know how, they're like, they're monster hackers, you know? Yeah, they're not afraid to try anything. That's how desperate they are. Hey, I want to show you this. I was about to show this Instagram account.
Starting point is 00:43:00 You can see the screen. This Instagram account is called a ready LA. And it's it's a it's basically where you go to get all your information about the fire, right? Okay. So if you live in LA, and you want to know what's good, what for the FEMA assistance is you want to know where the community meetings are, it's like sponsored by the city of Los Angeles, they tell you like, it's just all the updates, right?
Starting point is 00:43:29 And so if you went there, that's all you would want, right? Is just the updates, right? This is five days ago. This is how they talk to the people of LA. Listen to this shit. You're not even gonna fucking believe this. This is the problem. This is why Los Angeles burnt down.
Starting point is 00:43:48 Good afternoon. I'm with the Los Angeles fire department. We're here at the emergency operations center with some information for our fellow Angelenos. My name is Captain Jennifer Wilcox. My pronouns are she, her. I am a Caucasian female wearing a black shirt uniform with eyewear and a black hat.
Starting point is 00:44:09 I'm done. I know, how about, like anyone has time or cares about that. How about, hey, a Palisades is still closed. That's just awesome. It's crazy, right? Yeah, but that was Chinese sign language though, right? Yes, that's for all the Chinese citizens. No, it was Muslim sign language.
Starting point is 00:44:31 You can't even believe that, right? Like, hey, how about just get to the fucking point there's people just freaking out? How about just tell us how much of the fire's contained, where the fire trucks are? No, no, no, no. The point she's really trying to get across is she's a beaver eater. Yes. where the fire trucks are. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I guess. Do you know how patronizing and insulting that is to the blind? Explain.
Starting point is 00:45:06 I can just close my eyes and feel the rage. We're using your language, your terminology to describe their plight, to help their plight. Look at this. Shut up. It should be objectionable though. Look at this shit up. It should be objectionable though. Look at this post. It's telling you it's okay, but it's got that social justice, you know, artwork style that everyone recognizes. That's on the same website.
Starting point is 00:45:39 Yeah. Or is that hand just black with ashes? Yeah, that's a white guy who's been working the fire. Yeah, that's a looter's hand. It's crazy. So the money that was going to fund fire departments, that's not just free for your taking for social activity without repercussion. You actually need a fire department?
Starting point is 00:46:08 No, you don't. Clear? Hey, did you see what they reported yesterday? Homeless got the money and the other one set in the fires. Right. That's not exaggeration or hyperbole or propaganda. That is what happened. They doubled their fire expense their uh homeless expense and and shorted the fire departments. Yes. And some of the hydrants didn't have water.
Starting point is 00:46:35 Correct some of the hydrants didn't even work. And they have a reservoir that's that's uh down because it's under recently down under repair. But that's not Newsom's fault that's a a city reservoir. That's what he said. They're like, dude, you have an empty reservoir. He's like, it's that's the city's problem. So the fires are none of his business really. I mean, last night I saw we went to I flew into Watsonville to get to the house and we go into Hertz and they're like, we haven't had cars for days. And I'm like, it's just like, if you told me, hey, I went into Hertz, we haven't had
Starting point is 00:47:11 cars for days. I'm like, California. Nothing's working right. It's kind of obvious. We went to, what's the other place? Where did we get our rental car, Haley? You know what else seems to be done? Is the traffic over, Seve?
Starting point is 00:47:26 What traffic? The traffic. The notorious, infamous, horrible fucking traffic of the one that was there when I lived there. Is that gone? Uh, no. Okay. Are people attending the high schools and shit? Are people attending the high schools and shit? I don't know. I mean, I have, I don't even know. I don't, I actually don't know because I've made my schedule to avoid the freeway at all
Starting point is 00:47:50 costs during those hours going the wrong direction. So I don't know what's going on with the traffic, but you know, they're trying to expand that freeway there. They've been working on it for five years. Oh, the, the one. Yeah. They've been working on that since I showed up there full-time in 95 They built an overpass over Soquel and I was
Starting point is 00:48:12 And I was so excited. I'm like, holy shit But so people understand the landscape Santa Cruz on once there's a freeway and on one side is a mountain and on the other Side is the ocean. So the road network there is horrible it's just this tiny sliver of land stuck between the hills and Thumbnail of land with only two real East-west corridors that run the length of it so the place is about Two miles three miles deep in about 12 15 miles long And so yeah, right exactly And then there's a freeway that runs down that runs down the middle and you have to cross it to get to different shit.
Starting point is 00:48:50 And so there's very few places to cross it, right? So it causes all sorts of fucking headache. It's like a maze. Well last year they built an overpass. And Dave calls me one day and he says, hey, you know that overpass on Soquel? I'm like, yeah, I'm so excited about it. It's going to save me like probably 20 minutes every day. And he goes, dude, that's not for cars. Like, what are you talking about? He goes, I just drove under it. He goes, it's way too skinny for cars. I'm like, you're full of shit. There's no, there's no walking traffic there. There's no, I've never seen one person on foot or a bike anywhere near there. He's like, I'm telling you you it's a fucking walking path and lo and behold
Starting point is 00:49:28 they built that overpass at soquel is not for cars it's retarded it's it's nuts and it probably cost a fortune. Of course it did. Traffic on the one has been good. Bruce Jenner can drive even faster now. Hey, did you see that the YMCA, the village people are playing at the inauguration? No, but he's got the dance down. That'll be good.
Starting point is 00:50:03 Yeah. Isn't that amazing? Yeah, it's funny. Hey, that what they're doing at the inauguration by having that there, they're having some marching band play or something from a black college and they're having, um, the, the village people play the gay band. And what's so great about that is if that was if that was the if that was Kamala's inauguration you know they'd be doing it to make a statement. But this guy already fucking won. He's not trying to appease anyone you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:50:34 That black band just happens to be the best band and he fucking loves the village people. There's no you know what I mean? There's no there's no he loves them. He plays that song at every fucking rally he loves them And so you know that there's no there's no agenda he's not trying to score points with anyone he sure odd Who Trump? Yeah. Oh, yeah, I like his oddness It's growing on me. Yeah, I like it He's a he's a amateur comedian he's not like Zelinsky where he's a professional
Starting point is 00:51:14 I'm excited for the inauguration. I'm really excited When is that that's that is that that's good. It's gotta be coming up. Are there of Zulinski is a funny guy oh so many dude let me see if I can find one there's like pictures of him like you know on his TV show pretending like he's gay output gay skit I mean he Thespian. He's legit. Oh, here we go. I think this is him. This is just a quick search on YouTube. I think that's him in the middle there. You saw it? Yeah. Yeah, he's the real deal. And I think he had the number one.
Starting point is 00:52:14 I think he had a show in Ukraine. Yeah. He was the president, right? Yeah. And he played the president. It was a comedy show. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he's a legit, he's legit at something.
Starting point is 00:52:34 Interesting. World leaders, from actors to world leaders, to war heroes. I saw one more thing I got to show you too. This we kind of knew, but this is just another bit. This is pretty good. This is from Mark Bell's page. This is pretty good. This is from Mark Bell's page. You were told if you had pushed the vaccine for your patients, say you had pushed 6,000 people
Starting point is 00:53:18 who were your patients at that time to get the COVID vaccine, what would be the income to you? Yeah, so Blue Cross Blue Shield had an incentive program to get doctors to administer these shots. And under that incentive program, if I had vaccinated the 6,000 patients that I treated for COVID, I would have made $1.5 million. One point $5 million in bonuses if she would have delivered six thousand vaccines to the six thousand people she treated that's a hell of an incentive plan isn't it and she didn't I guess not the clip ends I was thinking about that we the taxpayers paid for a vaccine to be developed and given to the people quote unquote free and then we also paid those doctors to insist we take it. It's a
Starting point is 00:54:15 wild scam. You are, you're giving the incentive. Sean who's giving out the incentives? You are, we are with our tax tax money it's all it's all our money and then just think of how much money the admin was making uh call me crazy i just don't believe in these incentives oh they're they're true ask a doctor oh they are that that my That my, uh, I have vaccine enthusiastic physician friends, um, excited at the, at the largesse and buying vacation properties. And yeah, I know it happened. I knew a doctor who is like in all conversations, they were like they were like I don't know if they agreed with me But they could definitely see that it wasn't necessary to give a kid 72 injections by the time
Starting point is 00:55:11 They're 12 and then soon as the kovat vaccine came out they were ecstatic Ecstatic Are they everywhere all doctors, I don't know I don't I don't know I but if I had to guess I'd say yes Do they buy the vaccine batches who the hospitals the doctors I don't know That I mean obviously something weird is going on right when you can go into CVS and I mean, obviously something weird is going on, right? When you can go into CVS and they're giving away, or you could go into Target and get a $250 gift card if you took the free vaccine, right?
Starting point is 00:55:51 So you walk in there. Actually, where was I? Recently at some NorCal event in Sacramento, I walked into a store with Sousa and a bunch of other guys, and something played over the intercom saying, if you the vaccine they would give you $50. So I asked the guy, I said, hey, can I take 10 shots? And he goes, yeah, probably. I don't know if it's good. I asked the employee there at the CVS, said, I don't know if it's good for you, but if you kept coming in, you could probably keep taking it. A couple of doctors from my hometown are doing jail time because of some sort of illegal
Starting point is 00:56:29 incentives they were receiving not sure what but was a big deal. I mean just think of it this way you could just make up names and numbers and shoot the load shoot the load on the ground right collect the money the incentive. Yeah I don't it this is the first time I've heard anyone question that was going on. And the reason I didn't turn a skeptical eye to it at all is because I learned of it from the people getting the money. Right.
Starting point is 00:56:57 So I mean, you can Google I've googled it before. Looking at right now. It's a it's a Medicare thing. And there was a chart saying like, what came up earlier than that is that you need to report if anyone charged you for a vaccine, you're supposed to report it. Oh, right, right. That makes sense. Like they're double dipping.
Starting point is 00:57:24 Yeah. How dare you have to pay for it? Oh, right, right. That makes sense. Like, they're double dipping. Yeah. How dare you have to pay for it? You already paid for it with your taxes. I get texts all the time from CVS and Kroger encouraging me to get both flu and COVID vaccines. I'm ready to block the numbers. When I was a broke college kid, I'd get the Target gift card for my flu shot. And they give you french fries. Good point.
Starting point is 00:58:02 The Hexeth. Here's a website called the immunize for good. And it says fact vaccines aren't a big money maker for doctors and pharmaceutical corporations. I mean, there's that we pay for them as a public health initiative and then they get paid to distribute them It mean it doesn't even It's it's it's like owning a 7-eleven and someone being like hey I'm gonna give you these drinks you can keep all the profit from them You know what I mean? I'm putting these drinks in the freezer and you get all the profit from them. You're going to push that drink. You
Starting point is 00:58:46 know what I mean? I'm giving you free drinks. Yeah, that's the drink you're going to push. All the profits yours. I miss the days when I could make a couple hundred bucks doing free trials. Being a guinea pig, now everyone gets like 20 bucks. Being a guinea pig, now everyone gets like 20 bucks. And giving blood. There's radio ads constantly about getting back to normal. Hey, did you watch any of the Hegseth? I watched some of the opening and then I dropped in a few times and Man they were nasty there was a guy who's like, you know
Starting point is 00:59:32 His wife sitting right behind him her eyes are filled with tears and there's a guy right there's a they're like hey you know you slept around and you cheated on your second wife and Are you gonna quit drinking? You know, your job is 24-7 and I mean they were just they were just hammering them Then there was some lady from Hawaii who was trying to hammer him about his drinking but she was slurring It was it was it was bizarro world It was it was truly bizarro world But he handled it well, he never cowered. He kept his energy up.
Starting point is 01:00:05 He looked like a stone cold killer up there. I was impressed. I'm glad we're getting them. I have them. Go ahead. The people have had perfect qualifications put us into our current global position. Right. Unfortunately, yeah, we're at a place where you can't do any worse. That's what it seems to me. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:42 In about a minute here, I got a gym owner from LA who lost his gym and his house, I think. Yikes. Yeah. Do you know that name? Kenny Kane? Does that sound familiar? I think he's been around forever.
Starting point is 01:00:55 I think he was in business with Andy Petranic. I didn't recognize the name. I was kind of surprised. I was like, how do I not know that name? But I have a shitty memory. What makes you think that was one of Andy's guys? Because I saw an interview with him. And I think he was saying that Petranic was like one of his best friends. Okay. And he's in LA. Where do you live? He might actually even own it. I don't know. I'm about to find
Starting point is 01:01:19 out. I'm about to find out. He kind of yeah, he kind of looks like Rob Lowe. Someone in the comments says he looks like kind of like Rob Lowe. When I spoke to him the other day on the phone, he was in a hotel room with his dog and his entire family. Anyway, you want to do breakfast this morning? I do. All right. My kids are doing Kumaan here.
Starting point is 01:01:49 I can see them. Let's go to a what do you got going on? I just got this. I'm going to do this interview and then I'm going to cruise over. I was planning on cruising over your house. That's at eight o'clock. Oh, yeah. It's right.
Starting point is 01:02:03 No, it's right now. Yeah. Yeah. OK. I'll see you next week. I'll see you in a little bit. No, not next week. I'll see you. OK. When you're done with this, come over. OK, I'll see you in around 90 minutes. All right, buddy. All right.
Starting point is 01:02:14 Bye. Hey, and sorry for that guy losing his house and Jim. Geez. Yeah, it's crazy. Hopefully I'm wrong. Maybe he didn't lose his house. But for sure, he lost something. Yeah, it's horrible. All right, bud. All right. Love you. Bye. Kenny.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Savan. What's up, brother? What's going on, dude? Hey, Greg says he's really sorry about your loss, man. Thank you. Yeah, it's... We were just chatting about it. It's wild. Yeah. It's very wild. Um, yeah, it's been, it's been, uh, this is day eight and it feels like, you know, easily three years in this last week. Um, I'd like to hear the whole story of just like, you're just minding your own business.
Starting point is 01:03:07 You know what I mean? Like you're picking your nose and you're scratching your butt and you see it, you get an alert and you're like, what's this? Yeah, I was doing the hokey pokey as well. Yeah, you know what I mean? You're mid thruster and someone's like,
Starting point is 01:03:18 hey dude, we have to leave. Yeah, yeah, we're doing a couplet thrusters and cartwheels. It was amazing at that moment. I was actually, yeah, we're doing a couplet thrusters and cart wheels. It was amazing at that moment. I was actually, so I was going to a client's house fairly far by drive time here in LA and my wife was calling me and my client lives up on a hill and I wasn't getting the calls. And so I got to the guy's house and my phone just blown up as I walk in. I finally pulled it out and she's like, you got to get back because these fires are moving fast and you got to get home. And so as I'm driving back and it took me about an hour and 15 minutes to get home. And so as I'm driving back,
Starting point is 01:04:05 and it took me about an hour and 15 minutes to get back because everybody on the side of town that I was that had either family or homes was doing the exact same thing that I was. So there was just like, there was an exodus from the palisades, but there was also a migration towards concurrently to, you know, for dad's, mom's, whatever, try to go get their stuff from their
Starting point is 01:04:27 homes and their kids. And so by the time, and my wife was in the dentist office when she got the call, our infant, we have an eight month old who was with a babysitter so my wife could get her so my wife could get her teeth checked. Anyway, she goes to the school, the area that our kids elementary school is one of the areas that was like first and very dramatically hit. So our kids could see the fire moving, it came down a hill and it started coming up the hill
Starting point is 01:05:02 in real time as the kids are on the playground. And so they moved everybody to the auditorium. My wife gets there, grabs the kids, and gets in the car. And like I said, there's just this migration. And so- Kenny, real quick question. Does the school call you or does your wife just know and head over to the school? Both. Both. Both.
Starting point is 01:05:26 Okay. You know, I mean, and also it's happening so fast, Savan. I mean, the fire was moving so quickly. The wind was, it was just bumping it around and it just, everything from the topography that we live in and the decorative trees to the winds. I mean, it was just it was just a perfect cacophony of everything for the fire to move fast. And so Char, my wife, grabs kids, gets them in the car and and it's stuck in this traffic jam. And she's looking and the fires move from the school area and they start moving into
Starting point is 01:06:06 the neighborhood that she's stuck in. And so she just makes the decision to pull the car over and tell the boys to run. And with how old are your boys? My boys are nine and seven. And yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, you know, I think people of this podcast will probably enjoy the fact that my son can run my nine year old can run a 5k in 22 minutes. Awesome. Quite literally. So he just he just
Starting point is 01:06:47 22 minutes for a five and so you know and my seven can run a 21 minute or 27 minute 5k so they were perfectly equipped to run with mom and so they run a mile and a half back to our house where one of my coaches from the gym was with one of his clients nearby so he he goes to rendezvous with her knowing that I'm stuck, I can't get to them. And he picks her, the boys, and our daughter up, and the dog, and gets us to a friend's house who's a few miles from what we thought would be not really a dangerous spot to what by a few hours later started to get pretty
Starting point is 01:07:26 sketchy. And so we relocate at our buddy's house and we're just kind of watching on TV. The hill's burning and Sivan, you know, honestly, I'm thinking to myself like, yeah, this is all going to be okay. And you know, about three or four hours later, about 4pm, my buddy and I go over to, we decided to go back into my neighborhood and see if I can't grab a few more things from the house because there was just stuff that we missed in the evacuation. Because it's pretty nutty at the moment. I know that my nine-year-old is, I think, still pretty spooked from the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:08:25 Yeah. I mean, just seeing the fires at the school and then running and, you know, I don't know if the news was helpful at all, but us parents were like interested to kind of know like, you know, will our home or school be there, all that kind of stuff. And so, yeah, I just, I get in the, we get it, he's got a suburban, which is great, and relevant to the story that I'm about to share, we drive back into the neighborhood, we sneak back in, like all the roads were closed. And there's this like one kind of like back road that we knew that allowed us to get in. And, you know, they hadn't closed that at that point.
Starting point is 01:09:10 And so we get in there and we're driving by. And, you know, of course, on one of the streets nearby, there's a couple of looters that are like literally doing alley oop dunks on a lowered basket outside of the house, you know, and they're clearly just waiting for, you know, it to be safe to just get into the homes. So that was that. It was that quick. The looters show up that quick, huh? That quick, man. And then I get on a my block and there's, there's two guys taping a ring doorbell, uh,
Starting point is 01:09:51 across, directly across the street from my house. And so, you know, just instinctually I bow up and you know, like I said, I'm glad that we drove up in a suburban cause it just, it's a tougher look. Yeah. And they probably thought's a tougher look. Yeah. And they probably thought it was cops too. Yeah. And so I get out and I'm like, get the fuck off my property. And then like one kid kind of had a shake and get, got him going.
Starting point is 01:10:15 And the other guy, it took a second, but we eventually got them moving and started moving off our block. And I told my buddy, I said, Hey, just watch these guys make sure they don't, come on to, come back into my house. Cause I didn't want them to see which house was mine. Right. Cause I knew that we were gonna take off. And so, I go into the house and start grabbing stuff
Starting point is 01:10:43 and, Sevan, are you married? Yep. Yep. So this is like a classic marriage moment. I get on FaceTime with my wife and she's like go here for this. Go here for that. Yes. And so she's guiding me around the house and I haven't reported like that. You know, at that moment. There's a house on fire eight houses from the one that I'm in Holy shit That we just forcefully removed looters that
Starting point is 01:11:16 the toxic plume of dark smoke that we don't have math for anything is of dark smoke that we don't have masks for or anything is migrating at 60, 70 miles an hour. And it's in the house. It looks like one of those scenes from a Harry Potter movie when the ghosts turn to that black. It looks like that it's moving and you can see it.
Starting point is 01:11:39 There's parts of it where that are extra dark and thick. And then there's parts that you can kind of see clearly above and below that, but these smoke bursts are just kind of moving. And so she's guiding me through the house and it's just a classic couple's thing where you're like. You don't know where shit is. Well, I don't know, there's that
Starting point is 01:12:03 and she's on a different sort of contextual timeline. She's like, okay, I need you to get this and that, you know, I'm dealing with looters smoke and now I hear my boy outside going Kenny fucking house next door is on fire. It was a house on fire with Kenny and he's like screaming at me and I'm like, babe, I got, I gotta go. And she's like, well, no, no, no, you need to get this. And he's screaming, you got to get the house on fire. And I'm like, baby, like, I can't, I can't.
Starting point is 01:12:31 And then he comes in the house, like, we got to, you know, so we go outside. We get my house and it's a it's at this point, it's not his house, it's a it's a bushes in front, so we start putting out the fire and stomping on it. So we get that out. And then we get back in, grab a few things and you're playing this ridiculous photo editor thing, like which pictures are important? Which you know, what keeps things important? And you know, it's this important. And there's no inventory checklist that's particularly helpful in that moment. And then two things are concurrently happening
Starting point is 01:13:17 in your brain. One is, yeah, I'm gonna grab a few things, but the house will be there. Like they're opposing realities. Right, right. You're still in denial. Like they're, they're opposing realities, you know? Right. Right. You're still in denial. Like for me, like I totally live in this, it'll never happen to me world. Yeah. And what's ridiculous is it has happened to me. And so with the fires in Santa Rosa
Starting point is 01:13:35 in 2017, so like- You lost a house up there? We lost the, the reason I renamed my gym Oak Park is because the land that I grew up on burnt in 2017. And the you know, we originally CrossFit Los Angeles, but we renamed it because Oak Park, my family fitness business in NorCal burnt down. And so it was like a nod to the legacy of everything of CrossFit of CFLA. but it was just like it represented something You know personal obviously but like also like, you know from the Phoenix Rises from the ashes kind of mentality, you know, and Yeah, so
Starting point is 01:14:16 Even with that as a backdrop for me. I'm still thinking What was left from that fire? I had like a box and a half of keepsakes from my family. I mean, my mom and dad are past, I had a few things of theirs and my mom's hair, all the, anyway, there's just a few things left from that fire and I had it at this house and fuck man it's all fucking gone man. So yeah, back to the story. You know, I'm grabbing stuff and then we have to get out of there
Starting point is 01:15:08 because it's not safe and we're not equipped to, you know, try to fight the fire. We hosed down my house thinking that that would be helpful. But it clearly wasn't. And I come back and I just kind of go back to my buddy's house. And then he's kind enough to put us up in a hotel for a few days because his family and my family are tight and he was extremely generous and just taking care of us for a few days and putting us up. And now my wife, she's Swedish and she took the kids to go see grandma and grandpa in Sweden and just kind of you know get them some clothes and notebooks and all that kind of stuff while I am here trying to figure out the situations with the schools and some housing stuff and
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Starting point is 01:17:29 Visit flyporter.com and actually enjoy economy. But, you know, we, as a family, we have a lot to kind of sort out. And there's 18 people that train either personally or in group classes that don't have homes. From Oak Park. From Oak Park. And there's another 16, 17 that are gonna be displaced
Starting point is 01:17:59 for depending on the damage to their homes and the smoke damage and all, and the, you know, all the shit that's in the pipes and all that stuff. It, you know, who knows how long it's going to be for a lot of them. And you know, many of them, it's just not going to make sense to move into the neighborhood because the majority of the homes in the Palisades are gone. So that's where you live. That's where you live.
Starting point is 01:18:21 Kenny, you were in the Palisades as in the Palisades. Yeah. And so the kids school is gone. The house is gone. Is Is the gym gone Jim? No, I'm in the gym right now Oh shit. Okay. Okay right now and which is like a it's like a shelter for I mean like I'm sitting next to donations, you know, and then we've got a
Starting point is 01:18:43 room on the other side filled with stuff that the community's brought in and then outside like, you know, food supplies. And I mean, it's just like, it's wild how much stuff has been donated. And a lot of the people who are A displaced or B lost their homes haven't even got into like look at the stuff that's available yet. Just because they're dealing with the same shit that I am, which is like, fine, you know, where, you know, where do your kids go to school? Where do you live?
Starting point is 01:19:11 And you, and the, and the challenge for everybody, you know, I mean, there's, there's variables like you're just dealing with imperfect information, like any decision that you make, like, okay, so what do humans seek in times of disaster? Well, certainty. And I think that that's one of the, I think that that's a human, it's so natural and so human, and it's also a flaw in the sense that in a moment like this, like, yeah, we're going to observe things, but we're not going to have like, really thoughtful data on that, like what that means. And you know, an example that means for me and the kids and the wife is like, okay, so
Starting point is 01:19:56 we send them to this school that they're supposed to go to. And you know, are the other, the reason we'd want them to go to the school is A, we love our teachers. So okay, B, with the teachers, but then the other part of it is that they just, during a traumatic event, you'd want them to be with their other kids. But some of these families are going to migrate to their hometowns or states or whatever. And so, and then you've got the kids in this like strange environment and you know, the kids are doing the best they can with everything. And, uh, Hey, so it's, it's the dusty Island. Oh shit. Tomas. What's up, brother?
Starting point is 01:20:38 He's I got earphones on, but he's, he's, uh, he's continuing to teach millions. Does he, does he, is he trainer at that gym? Yeah. Oh, I didn't even know that. Oh, he didn't know that. Coach. He closed the shop and joined me. Um, yeah, through COVID.
Starting point is 01:20:54 Yeah. He's, he's, he's amazing, dude. He's an amazing coach. Um, and just a fucking superstar human man. Um, we stepped up like, I fucking fuck man like, I mean, he was like on it with everything. Just everything like just got into like, go mode, you know. Dan Guerrero says, does he, Highland's a legend. He taught most of us a bar muscle up on YouTube.
Starting point is 01:21:29 He quite literally did. Quite literally did. I mean, he's just, and he continues to do, you know, I mean, we've got like 80 year olds getting inverted right now in our gym. It's it's fucking remarkable. But um, um, Kenny, can I ask you a couple of questions? Do ask whatever you want.
Starting point is 01:21:56 So, so you get this note, you get the call, your house is on fire. You go over there, you watch the fire, you know, you watch already see the looters come in, you watch the fire encroach on your home, you grab whatever you can, you leave, your family gets organized in a hotel. Is the gym still operational? Like is the what is our class is still going on and stuff like that? And how close is the gym to the fire? The gym, but as a crow flies, you know, depending on which fire that fire was fucking massive. So there were several, you know, the, the, the closest the fire got to the gym was probably three miles. Oh shit. Are you guys out of the woods or no?
Starting point is 01:22:34 I would say mostly, I mean, there's still, you know, there's still a couple of homes. There's still some fire. There's still a lot of fire to put out and some of our homes are still, there's four people from our gym that are just kind of crossing their fingers that, you know, part of their neighborhood got burned and a lot of the houses in the neighborhood got burned. And it's kind of like the last section for our community, if you will, that is on watch. So, but it seems to be settling down. Are people sleeping at the gym? Nobody's sleeping at the gym. We almost did, but everybody had a bed and everybody was pretty quick to get out and
Starting point is 01:23:13 go somewhere. Like a lot of people went to the Inland Empire or Orange County, or some people went north to Santa Barbara. So a lot of people got kind of far away. And then other people had in-laws in Santa Monica that they, I mean, it was surprising how many people actually had in-laws in Santa Monica that they could go to.
Starting point is 01:23:37 And then everybody in our community opened up their homes. Like there was just, like I have currently 484 messages that I just I haven't even been able to get to. And basically all of them are like you can stay at our place or whatever. There's some sort of offer of help. Oh, that's awesome. So and that's the thing that's been so remarkable. Like I said, internally within our community is just like the caretaking response was instinctive, heart-centered, and just not surprising. We've been through some emergencies before as a community, none quite like this, but
Starting point is 01:24:24 it's a good chunk of our people. I'm talking about 30-something people from our gym, Savan, that are displaced. It's not as crazy. We're 150 people or whatever. It's not a big community. It's a tight community, but not a big one. Did you own your home, Kenny? No, no. And I don't know, like I'm, well, A, like, you know, yeah, we were renting. And so, you know, it's also, this is another thing that's very weird about this moment is that, you know,
Starting point is 01:25:10 that, you know, I'm describing like the love and the humanity, which I say like completely outweighs the looters and all that stuff. Like people will fixate on that. They're motherfucking looters in California, fuck the state, you know, I'm just like, yeah. And you know what? Scabs are all over the place throughout the history of humanity.
Starting point is 01:25:30 That happens. And there's a dark part of our humanity that is that. And it's going to happen everywhere. It's not isolated to California. It's just, you know. There's people on bank lines calling from somewhere in the US, posing to be insurance brokers getting... Right, trying to get the social security number. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:57 So people were making in front of us from other states are like, people are contributing to it from all over. So like... Right. Wow. I never even thought of that. There's probably a lot of scams to it from all over. So like, Wow. I never even thought of that. There's probably a lot of scams, right? No, no, no. There's, there's calls coming in right now.
Starting point is 01:26:10 It's like, it's crazy, dude. And so, and that has nothing to do with the looters that we saw. They don't have those skills. And so anyway, but, but just the, the humanity of it and the caretaking of it. For me, just thinking of like, fuck, this gym's been open for 20 years, Savan. It's a pain in the ass to be a gym owner. It's so fucking hard. Then I see this and I go, yeah, that love, this is why we do it.
Starting point is 01:26:45 Back to the renter's insurance, there are going to be some people that were dropped by their insurance because of the fire stuff. They're going to be part of that State Farm November crew that got dropped. And then there's going to be people who are going to be able to rebuild really well from and reimagine what their homes are going to look like and how they're going to do it. They're going to be they're actually going to do just fine. And so there's this like split. And I had a very odd moment when I was looking at a condo Um that the price has gone up like So much and i'm in the condo with all these people from the palisades
Starting point is 01:27:36 Who are coming? They're multimillionaires who have um who have multimillion dollar policies, and they're bidding on these places that I'm thinking about bidding on, and there's no reality that matches the capability of what they can do financially versus what me and shark can do. I mean, there's no, there's no renters insurance, get back, there's no go fund me, like they can match like what we're seeing in the market in the market. And as I remember from 2017 in NorCal, we'll adjust and, you know, six months. But in the meantime, we're trying to figure out how to like have a stable home for the kids so
Starting point is 01:28:25 they can feel somewhat normalized in this situation. You're competing in a market that's not... It's not fair. If I had the money like these people do, I would overbid on all these homes for rent also. What you're saying is that the fires displaced so many people that there's a scramble to get into new places and it's caused a bidding war in, in, you know, the second most expensive place in California, you know, which, which would probably now exceed the Bay area easily. Um, but it's kind of like tied the area that we live in.
Starting point is 01:29:02 And so it's just, it's comical how, how expensive it is as is. What is the rent? Is it like $4,000 or $5,000 for a two bedroom place a month? Oh dude, you're comical. Oh man. No, no, no, no. Like I looked at a three bedroom yesterday for 13K. Wow.
Starting point is 01:29:23 And that's, and that's, and it's, and, and, and, by the way, if it was 5K, I wouldn't rent it. Like without any kind of emergency. You know what I mean? Like it's just not, and so this is the universe that we're in right now. And, uh, that is crazy. It's wild. It's wild, dude. And so we can, and I live in California. It's hard to shock me. 13 K for a three bedroom. Oh bro. It's, it's, and so, you know, for us, like our renters insurance will cover a little bit. I, um, I'm sorting out what, you know, we had a really amazing home gym. I'm sorting out if any of that gym equipment and there's probably you know the mats included and the sauna and the ice tub and all that stuff.
Starting point is 01:30:13 I mean there's probably 40-50 worth just of stuff there and I don't I actually don't know if any of that's going to be covered. I'll have more clarity on that in the coming days. My suspicion is I know some of my coverages and I don't think it is. So that's I'm going to have to kind of sort that out. But you know, I mean, there's the volume of stuff that we got to sort out. It is a lot. And so we're trying to figure out how to You know how to not because you know, we want to be here for the business and keep the community open be here for the kids school and soccer teams and all that stuff
Starting point is 01:30:57 that they're very much entrenched in a part of and then there's just going to be a lot of of and then there's just going to be a lot of upheaval also. And so, you know, I'm unclear whether, you know, the 30 plus people, I think the majority of them are going to, a lot of them, not a lot, but many of them have already made their way back into the gym and wherever they're staying, they're kind of like starting to come in a little bit. But I also don't know how many of those people are just going to be out, gone, not part of our business. So I'm unclear as to the effect on the- Yeah, some people who lost their shit are like, fuck it, I'm out. They're moving to
Starting point is 01:31:42 Mexico or Tennessee or Florida. They're like, that's it tap. Totally to get the floods and the hurricanes. Have you thought about like how has it gotten pretty dark for you? Have you been like fuck it I'm just going to Sweden with my wife I'm out. You know, it's hard. My wife is Swedish and Sweden's like remarkably stable and it's a calmer, the volume is way down in Sweden, broadly speaking. I mean, look, there's like the same politicization that is happening all over the world there, but it's just a calmer place.
Starting point is 01:32:25 But it's just a calmer place. And you know, my kids are bilingual. And you know, the challenge for me is that I love this community. I am so, and this community has stepped up so hard for us as a family. I don't want to leave that. My wife doesn't want to leave that. And we're torn. It's this family thing of like, man, we want, like any parent, you want your best for the kids. And how do you determine that? What's best for your kids? Working through something as a community and learning resilience? Or not having these brutal stressors from a financial perspective and from quite literally an existential perspective like Sweden.
Starting point is 01:33:17 And then the other truth of the matter is that depending on what happens in Ukraine, Putin's next target is literally Sweden. So that's the thing that we have to—if I'm just thinking of real politics, as Kissinger used to say, what are you taking into consideration? It's like, well, what does Putin want? And he wants Gotland, which is the big island. It's a big naval command island that Sweden has, and it's perfect.
Starting point is 01:33:47 If he has that, he runs the Baltic. And so... You don't want to go from Santa Rosa to LA to Putinland? No. To war. You don't want to go from fire to fire to war? No, no. And it's like, and if if Ukraine goes like Sweden's next and so and that's
Starting point is 01:34:07 it's not That's like they're they're Their military understands that that's what's happening. And so it's why you know Sweden's presence in NATO and NATO's help is like really critical at this point But like and also why I'm vested in like Ukraine not fucking Going so Do you love that? Do you love California? Do you like living in California fucking love California me too? People are always like why don't you leave I'm like fuck that I love it
Starting point is 01:34:40 I'm looking out the window and I can see if I just move I can see like a very brown hill that once was tree-covered But I'm also looking out a window and seeing palm trees and I see blue sky and it's December and I could be you know, I'm in a jacket right now, but I could be I could be in shorts if I had to you know what I mean, right right and I'm in a jacket right now, but I could be in shorts if I had to. My son said to me, I took him out. We went to the beach a few times last week, and he's just like, he's building a sandcastle. He just says to me, he's like, daddy, I love the beach, like, the waves are the most
Starting point is 01:35:29 instinctual playmate I've ever seen for children. And I have four, three of which play with the ocean. They just go and a wave comes and they run, and a wave goes out and they run to it. And the wave comes and then they build sand stuff. and then they try to catch the little crabs that dig the cell digs them in a hole. It's like for hours, for hours, no video screen is as amazing as that. And you know, I've got so many friends from all over that say the same thing that you do.
Starting point is 01:36:09 It's like, they see or hear one thing and it's like, dude, California is everything. It's everything. It's amazing. And yes, there's earthquakes and yes, there's fires and yes, it's traumatic and yes, it's violent, but we have deserts and beaches and mountains and trees and communities and people that think differently and you fucking that's amazing. It's not homogenized and it's like it allows you to think in a lot of different ways and look at things a lot of different ways. You can grow anything. That's my favorite part. You can grow anything. I can grow anything. Yeah anything anything Yeah, anything dude, like are you kidding me? Like
Starting point is 01:36:53 so You know, I mean It's wild dude, it's wild So do you have a plan like you mentioned the word certainty and I know I can only imagine with four kids that Do you have a plan or do you have have you been able to clear your mind or sit down with someone? I've been been like hey Kenny, this is this either you say to yourself or someone says it to you This is the sequence of ways you need to think about stuff. Yeah, cuz like right now
Starting point is 01:37:21 I'm sure it's just a clusterfuck right? Like you're trying to get focused on what you're gonna how you're gonna teach this class and you're remembering the shit you lost in the fire. And then you're wondering what your kids are doing in Sweden. It must be like, it must be a trip. Yeah, well, you know, I sent a note out to our team and we have mental models in place for emergency well, everyday situations and emergency situations. I'll just kind of like
Starting point is 01:37:48 color that for you so that I can answer the question fully. First of all, like there's an idea here at the gym that we talk about all the time, it's two primary concepts. I came up with a quote after the 2017 fires. And that was at the back end of a lot of loss for me personally, Savon. I had lost 13 people from 2015 to 2017, both my parents, many of my mentor coaches track and soccer, a lot of very close personal friends. And the 13th person was was justine Ruschek, who was the lady that I lived with in Minneapolis, who gave me a room so that when I was out there, because my daughter lives in Minneapolis and so she was murdered by a policeman in Minnie and then a month after that the fires in Santa Rosa. And so I said something to Brian McKenzie as kind of a throwaway line to him shortly after all that I said change is inevitable and growth is optional and he goes what the fuck did you say and I go change is inevitable and growth is optional and he goes what do you mean I go man I've been through Like, I can choose to let this just fucking run me, or I can choose to grow from it.
Starting point is 01:39:32 And grow doesn't mean be positive. Grow just means that the complexity of being a human being means that great pain is going to come for all of us and for me it was voluminous and copious you know on top of that in that in that time period you know I got two kids under two in the house I'm not sleeping and I'm really financially stressed I mean I was that that was a brutal time financially for my wife and I, and we had very little money. And it was, everybody's dying,
Starting point is 01:40:11 and fucking I'm doing more eulogies than I am diaper changers at that point. And then the fire, I'm just like, you gotta be fucking kidding me. And then it can't be a poor me thing. It's like, not like this is happening to me, but also this is just simply happening. This is our human condition.
Starting point is 01:40:33 It just is. And so how are we going to grow from it? And so for me, what that quote means is like, listen, man, relationships are going to change. Your purpose is going to change. your purpose is going to change, environments are going to change. In environments like this one, the fires, well, that changes your environment, and that changes your relationships. But how do you grow through that adversity? And the more conscious you are about what that means, the more that you can the more that you can use it to be quite literally a stronger human being. And so that's fundamental to the coaching that we do here at Oak Park,
Starting point is 01:41:12 because nestled into like our larger message is something that Mark Devine taught me, is that the world is volatile, uncertain, complex, and ambiguous, and the more that you can get with that. So that parallels my personal experience, but it also is like, right, so just get with that. And so when it's gnarly, choose to be available to the cut. And so we do a lot of like mental skills development. I'll just segue that into, you know, what am I thinking?
Starting point is 01:41:51 Well, I mentioned the word certainty earlier. And I think that this human condition of seeking certainty and people freak the fuck out in moments of crisis and go, this is what we gotta do, this is what we gotta do. And part of that is necessary because you need people who are saying, get in the boat, the house is on fire. Quite literally, you gotta get away. So you need people like that.
Starting point is 01:42:14 And at the same time, there's sometimes where you need to go, no, right now we need to be exercise some flexibility. And so those are yin and yang characteristics, right? You got certainty, you got flexibility. They're opposite ends of the spectrum, but both are necessary in moments like this. And so we use it for the development of my coaches. We work with the mental skills coach and we have this model that stress induction. And so when people get stressed, there's four different animalistic approaches. So just if you look at when it gets cold, beavers build. So those are all the people
Starting point is 01:42:59 that are like, this is what we got to do right now. Birds migrate. They get together in large groups of people and they go, hey, I need my people. We got to go to this place. Let's go to this place, it's warmer. Bison tough it out and tolerate. They grow their fur and they go, I'm gonna stand right the fuck here and like just be tough in this motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:43:23 Bears hibernate. They're like, dude, don't talk to me. Just be tough in this in this in this motherfucker bears Hibernate they're like dude Don't talk to me. I need to go take a nap and if you think about that each one of those approaches is perfectly appropriate to the cult But we as humans relate to each other in the way that we bias our stress response. So we'll get pissed in stressful moments. A bird will get pissed at a bear like, why the fuck you taking a nap? And the bears like, why the fuck are you yelling at me right now?
Starting point is 01:43:56 Tell me to go somewhere. Yeah. And so and the truth is the truth of all is that everybody's right based on their biology. These are baked in biological stress responses. My coaching to our team is like, listen, our community is going to be all over the place. Everybody's going to be representative of this wheel that I just described. We have to understand that some people are going to want flexibility.
Starting point is 01:44:25 Come in with, so for those people, come in whenever you want, man. Just like get in, get on the, get on the bike and just move for a little bit. Other people are going to want it. What's certain to do? Like is class happening at six and are we lifting or are we breathing in the smoky air with some Metcon? Like, you know what, man, we can do both and you can choose to do which one is best for you. And so we're just approaching it from that vantage point. So we have tools to not just go, here's the programming today.
Starting point is 01:44:52 Our tools are advanced to handle this conversation. They're not, this is the programming, yes, the gym's open, it's not open, whatever. It's like, it's a little bit more than that. And, you know, for, executing on that as a business is one thing. Executing on that for us as a family. So like, you know, how does that- Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:15 Could I interrupt for a second? That's the part. Sorry, Kenny. So like, I can just go on autopilot, right? Yup. Like, probably you could too, like, or you could have, you know what I mean? So like I can wake up, I can do my podcast, I can grab my kids, I can go to the skate park, then I can take them to swimming, then I can come home, I can make love to my wife, and I could go to sleep.
Starting point is 01:45:35 And then I wake up in the morning and I pay my PG&E bill from the YouTube money I made, and then I do the same thing over and over. So all of a sudden your whole shit's been just like all your path, all your autopilot, you know what I mean? Like you have nowhere to go on autopilot. You have nowhere to do your loop. And like all of a sudden in 24 hours, your whole shit's like everything's different. You have no data. Like how do you, how do you, and then so I'm trying to figure out like, how do you figure out, are you like, okay, I'm going to build this loop first, which is shelter for my kids or like, how do you know how to get back into your life? Yeah. How do you do that? I have some very concretized habits.
Starting point is 01:46:26 One is that I have three basic practices that are like personal and fundamental that are doable basically in a lot of different situations. One is that I have a breath practice. One is that I have a writing practice. I've been writing for next to 30 years. So every morning, I read The Artist's Way in the 90s, and I started writing in 1995 and I haven't stopped. Regrettably, every notebook that I wrote since 1995
Starting point is 01:46:56 is now burned. Holy shit. Tell me the name of the book again. I remember someone gave me that book. What was the name of it? Jim Jordan gave me that book. Yeah, it's called The Artist's Way. The Artist's Way.
Starting point is 01:47:06 The Artist's Way. And I have clients read it. I have my men's group read it. Because it's an essential, it's an ancient practice. Like if you write daily, it's just, it's an intended creation slash reflection practice. And like fundamentally, those are human things. If you create and if you reflect, those are innate in humans. And I think that a lot of humans aren't reflecting right now, which is causing a lot of our antagonism towards one another. And also people are frustrated from a creative vantage point. And so just ventilating, which is inside of you,
Starting point is 01:47:49 from something that's been around for thousands of years, doesn't need, you know, Andrew Huberman to do it, to research anything on it. It's like, we've known this for millennia. Well said. And so- Oh, it's the third one, breathing, writing. Breathing, reading, and a physical
Starting point is 01:48:05 practice. So have you ever read Sid Hartha by, um, of course. Yeah. So he, and those, you know, he had his three things, uh, breathing, uh, fasting and resting. Yeah. Yeah. And so, and so baked into this resting is like, you know, also part of, we look at the pillars of CrossFit, the pillars of fitness, like there there's other there's other things, but there's the other things that I would add to this is like community. So the first thing that, you know, I got in the first workout I got in, I came in and I did, you know, some pull ups on Thursday, and then I came back in on Sunday with the class.
Starting point is 01:48:41 And there was another guy who's house burnt down. And the two of us just started. We started in with the Sunday morning class and we just started crying and it was somatic and we cried for I don't know I mean I cried as I was crying, as I was crying, like it just, I was crying because this community was taking care of Jonathan and me. The energy of the people, like it's not, and just the movement, and the movement itself started to move that like,
Starting point is 01:49:30 just fucking trauma out of my body, you know? And I need that, I need that physicality. And I think, you know, if I'm being honest, I think a lot of people who are attracted to CrossFit have just so much trauma and they're using the CrossFit as a way to like ventilate it. I also think a lot of people still haven't dealt with it. I agree.
Starting point is 01:49:59 I agree 100%. I think a lot of people use CrossFit. I think CrossFit attracts a lot of people who are managing their trauma for sure. Yeah, which is great. I also feel like we need to start to elevate how that conversation looks, broadly speaking, how do we get into that part of the thing. Yeah, so as I'm decision making, I'm thinking about these tools. Okay, so I got my notebook.
Starting point is 01:50:28 I thank God I have my backpack because I have one fucking notebook left and it's the one that I've been using recently. I get a little morning dose in there, I do a little bit of breath work and I have my physical practice and I have my community. And those things are … what I'm really thinking about right now is … I'm thinking about two things, like what I got to do for me and my family and what I need to do as a leader for our community. And the conversation I'm really trying to get in front of for our community is like,
Starting point is 01:51:11 guys, this gym handles 80% of the conversation. So no matter where you're landing, because we have a lot of like people that have survived like a version of survivor's guilt in our community. Like they feel worse than we do. And it's like they're, it's not that they're projecting, but they're just, they're going through so much like having a home, you know, they have a, they have a place to go to and they don't have to fundraise and they don't have to do. I think. Go ahead. I think you froze for a second. You're back. Oh, yeah. So we've got this mix of people who like it's, you know, they're, they're, they're going, everybody's
Starting point is 01:51:59 going through something. And so if we handle the bottom up stuff, which is like, I'm really trying to have the coaches just say, before classes and with their individual clients, hey, guys, like our job, like, you know what we train for this, like we have this conversation about VUCA all the time, we know, the change is inevitable, and we're going to grow together as a community. And it's not just the physical stuff that we do. Actually, that's just a teeny portion And it's not just the physical stuff that we do. Actually,
Starting point is 01:52:26 that's just a teeny portion of it. It's this human connection that has bound this gym together for 20 years that's going to get us through. And that's the sort of the energetic that we're communicating. And then, you know, more complexly, the coaches have tools like that I described earlier and some other ones to kind of take inventory on where people are at and just be able to guide appropriately. But 80% of mental and physical health is what we're doing in the gym. And then the 20% is the top down, like what a therapist can do, what plant medicine can do, what some of these other modalities
Starting point is 01:53:05 can sort of help with. But that's like the sort of the top of the pyramid. But like the base of the pyramid is like, look, we're communing, we're breathing, we're working out, we're taking moments to reflect as a community together before and after classes, we're embracing each other, like we're holding these moments is very special. And special. And that's very much like this healing energetic. And so, yeah. Kenny, so clearly it's been a crazy 10 years for you. Is there any part of you that sees the light and is like, holy shit, I'm going to let go of all of this and just fucking be blissful?
Starting point is 01:53:52 Like do you know what I mean? Like do you see any, like, cause I'm trying to figure out how I would manage the stress of what you're going through. And I think, I don't think I would try to manage it. I think it's sometimes, you know what I mean? It's like, uh, at some point I would just be like, fuck think I would try to manage it. I think it's sometimes you know what I mean? It's like At some point I would just be like fuck. I'm gonna have to abandon all All plans all I'm gonna have to just like do take one colossal shit and let just like let go
Starting point is 01:54:20 And just take this thing second by second like I'm trying to figure out like almost like you have to go through a fucking rebirth I can't imagine. I'm just trying to imagine how you're separated from your family I'm just I can't it's it's hard to empathize with because I'll just start crying. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, listen, man. I mean, I do, you know, the benefit of growing up where I did was that I had great teachers early. You know, I had meditation teachers, people who teach me breath. My mom was like, onto like, she was decades ahead of everybody on everything.
Starting point is 01:54:51 Having your breath is huge. My wife teaches that to my kids. They do a breathing practice every day. She taught me one 15 years ago. It's massive. It's massive. And so, you know, I think the other thing is, is that it's, there's, there's, I think the hard part is, is just as a family man, there's, there's stuff that I want. There's stuff that my wife wants. There's stuff that part of you that's like looking at that which you're primarily
Starting point is 01:55:28 responsible for in totality and trying to balance that as a leader. I mean, that's the heavy as the crown. And so when you have a lot of responsibilities, you're thinking about many things, not just your own. And for me, I know that like whether it's God that's gifted me or with with this all this tragedy is that I am capable of being in it and and so there is and I've gone through it and so there is, and I've gone through it.
Starting point is 01:56:05 And so weirdly, like I got 40 guys in my men's group that are world beaters, Yvonne, and they're all taking care of me right now. And it's also weird because they're like, let us take care of you. You've taken care of us. And, and, and yet I feel like driven to get back to, you know, leading and holding space for these men. And, you know, we had cultivated a home so that I that we had a fire pit at the house where we would meet, we called it the group treehouse, I call it the treehouse. I've cohorts of eight guys and we we get together by monthly for each cohort and then we get together for you know group group events every
Starting point is 01:56:52 other Sunday. And it's a very powerful experience for these incredible guys. And you know, I'm the guy, like they're authors, they're heads of seaters, they're like physicians and actors and musicians. I mean it's just, it's crazy. Like I'm the guy that holds the space for these guys. And you know, for me, like I have a lot of, I just feel driven to kind of get back to holding space for my family, for my community, for my men's group. And then also concurrently going, yeah, you guys take care of me. This is your turn to take care of me. And so I know that, you know, I really value the handful of plant medicine experiences
Starting point is 01:57:52 that I've had. And, you know, I'm always looking to evaluate how much of what I just said, for example, is egoistic. Like, is this, you know, Kenny being very egoistic or is this something that is like part of my true essence and nature and energetically why I'm here. And you know, I gotta say, man, like, as I share right now, it feels less egocentristic than it does like, yeah, man, as I share right now, it feels less egocentric than it does like, yeah, man, like I wanna be stuck in.
Starting point is 01:58:33 And the other part of what you said, like there's moments where I go, wow, what would it be like to just move to Costa Rica for a year? You know, and just let my nervous system just take a break because it hasn't had a break in a decade. I had about a one-year kind of break after 2017-18. I moved the gym one month before COVID hit into a really expensive facility in downtown Santa Monica. So that was awesome.
Starting point is 01:59:10 And then moved it subsequently. And you know, like it, so that had its, you know, as you know, all the California gyms, it just, that was not pleasant. So there just hasn't been like much of a break from a stress standpoint for about a decade on top of like, life is hard. You run a business, you have kids like that's hard.
Starting point is 01:59:34 It's really hard. Yeah, yeah. You know, and so yeah, I'm in the middle of sort of evaluating a lot of these things. I I wish I could answer your question clearly. I know that like I come back to look, we'll provide some temporary stability. We'll probably have an Airbnb for me and my wife for a month. We might stay at a friend's house for a few months. And then my wife takes the kids to Sweden every summer. So my thought is like, stay at an Airbnb for a month, then we'll stay with some friends for three or four months get the kids a suite and I'll stay here
Starting point is 02:00:08 and then just like and then look in Four or five months like and be able to take inventory more clearly With with clearer eyes and then also and also like calmer hearts, you know the hearts very hurt right now like I mean, there's not a fucking moment. Like I just you know, my kid's first teeth, savan fucking gone. Like the the the the the little the drawings. I was writing my daughter a book she's she's 14. And she lives in Minneapolis and I don't get I mean, I, you I was writing my daughter a book, she's 14,
Starting point is 02:00:48 and she lives in Minneapolis and I don't get to, I mean, she comes out three times a year and I'll fly out and get to see her, but I'm writing her a book, a handwritten book, and it's fucking gone, 14 years. Like, just shit, you can't, you just, you can't replace any of that, man. And yet, you know, we have love for each other and that's what's going to bind and you know, we, we, we, VUCA will happen. And so if I'm, if I'm embracing that, it's just like, here we are with all of that. And what's, what's VUCA? VUCA is volatility, uncertainty, complexity, and ambiguity. And I just, you know, I, I that's at the centerpiece of our, of our teaching and our
Starting point is 02:01:43 coaching here at the gym. It's not CrossFit,Fit's a tool that we use, but the bigger conversation is VUCA. The bigger conversation is change is inevitable and growth is optional. The bigger conversation is how are you contextualizing all of this for your life? Kenny, is this GoFundMe page a good place for people to contribute? Yeah, because that's my wife and I have a personal one, which is great. But this is this is one where we have a lot of impacted families, you know, some of them are going to be fine. Some of them are not. And so we're just, that's a great page for, you know,
Starting point is 02:02:28 our CrossFitLA community. So if anybody is able any kind of donation, I understand that you had a comment last week or something like, I'm not going to let Don fall out, did me or something. That brings me that warms my heart and also makes me laugh. So thank you for that. I had to beat him by a dollar. Then he raised me another $5. What's this guy doing? No, I very much appreciate that.
Starting point is 02:02:59 Yeah, this will go to, you know, community members of an affiliate that's 20 years old and it will help, you know, that aspect of all the things that I described earlier. Do you know any other gym owners who lost their homes? No, no, I don't. No, I know gym owners that were impacted by the Eaton fire, which is in Pasadena or the, lost any gyms lost? Not that I know of nothing because the Altadena one was more, well, look, it got into the flats, but there was a lot of the hillside community. Um, so there's the work, one PMS on the, on the hills, um, that I know of, like that hasn't come up yet.
Starting point is 02:03:57 I feel like I would have known that, but I'm also been buried by a lot of other stuff going on concurrently. Yeah, life. Hey, I'd love to stay in touch. I'd love to, you know, continue the story. I appreciate you sharing this bit. I know it's traumatic, but it is it is it's very human. It's as human as shit gets right.
Starting point is 02:04:24 Loss and rebuilding and I'd love to continue to share your story and the narrative and see how things unfold Over the next year. Of course, of course, Yvonne. Thank you. Thank you for the time, buddy Absolutely. All right. Love you, but dude and if there's anything you need text me and tell Dusty I think he's a wonderful human being text me and tell Dusty I think he's a wonderful human being. Oh, and you broke up. That's a good time with a good smile. Yeah. All right, talk to you soon. Bye. Kenny Kane, Oak Park, wild. I don't even know how to process. Felt my tear ducts turn on a few times. Man, the kid stuff.
Starting point is 02:05:09 Here's a link to the GoFundMe page and FTP, but I'll be back in just a second. I'm Jen, I am Lucy's mom. Our world was kind of flipped upside down in 2023. We were in a motor vehicle accident, which left my daughter a paraplegic. My name is Lucy and my age is 11 and I have a T4 so like right here. One thing was really clear that she wanted to be an athlete again. First day of school she was just hit with the failure after failure and realizing that the people
Starting point is 02:05:56 around her didn't view her as a competitor. They didn't quite understand. I was pretty frustrated and stuff. When I first came in here, I was a little bit nervous because I had never been really in a gym before. But when I came in to this gym, it was different because it was like everyone's welcome. If you're in a chair, if you're not in a chair, no matter what.
Starting point is 02:06:16 CrossFit Watchtower quickly became our home. It's really important because it helps with my independence and not just with like strength like I can pick something else that's heavier but just I don't know I just feel a lot more confident and just a lot more happy and stuff. It's amazing the community that supports her and I wouldn't even just say supports her but supports our whole field of life. Here she is a competitor, she figures it out and that's really because of the
Starting point is 02:06:45 confidence and the independence and the strength work that she's done here at Watchtower. All right, I moved my screen up there. Oh that's Alps looking up. God, I woke up with a headache this morning. I never have a headache. I wonder what the fuck is going on with my head. Did I eat something funny? Did I not get a good night's sleep? All right. What do I have to share with you guys? What's today?
Starting point is 02:07:22 Today, Wednesday? Someone left the cap off the Matutean. What is, um, what's today? Is today Wednesday? You know what today is, Haley? Okay, so tomorrow morning Blair Morrison and Ben Alderman will be on Friday. Friday it looks like we will be doing a live show from Iowa showing Colton doing one of the, uh, NorCal qualifiers. Don't tell anyone. That's not a hundred percent certain, but I think we're really close.
Starting point is 02:08:10 And then, um, on the 20th, I want to do a watch party. I'm gonna try to get Dale Saran on for, uh, inauguration. Guys all know Dale Saran. Dale is the attorney who has the largest class action lawsuit against the United States government on behalf of military personnel who are kicked out of the military. Christian, you said my voice was loud earlier. Is it better now? I'm not putting my mouth close to the mic.
Starting point is 02:08:37 I'm not used to using this Amazon $40 mic. By the way, if anyone needs a good podcast mic, I think I haven't got any complaints about this. I could drive to Iowa. I don't I don't know if it's a when I say live. I'm not going there. Just saying like we're gonna set up a camera there and he's gonna do one of the events. It should be fun. We got a couple things in the works to do with Colton. I'm excited. I'm excited. What else? And then I'm on the road.
Starting point is 02:09:06 We got a lot of guests in the works, but I'm on the road. I hate doing guests when I'm on the road. Did you see what happened to Christian Harris? No, what happened to him? Should I look it up here? Where do I look? Tell me where to look. Is he okay? I saw Jessica Schwartz got in a motorcycle
Starting point is 02:09:29 accident and got fucked up real good. Okay. Is there anything else I need to share with you guys? The podcast Pedro did with the training think tank guy, the Superman looking dude, Sam Kwant looking dude, Brainen. That was a good podcast. At least I watched the first half hour. I thought it was great. He's going to be focused on training masters athletes, which is pretty cool. What else? Tons of news coming out of the barbell spin regarding the events. All right. I don't know. Ego war at training think tank.
Starting point is 02:10:33 I don't know. I people just grow. People just grow. People just people just know, people change. 10 years, he's been there 10 years. That's a long time to be with someone. People just outgrow each other. Sounds like Brandon has some aspirations.
Starting point is 02:10:54 I wouldn't say it was an ego. Jerry Birchfield, Sevan does metoothin have hydro, hydroxyapatite as a remineral remineral Remineralizer or just diatomaceous earth it has God. What is that word? it does not have the What's that clay it's a clay there's a clay in there. What was it? A bent night? I'm my wife Tony bent night.
Starting point is 02:11:31 You tell me what that is. Grant, you are super loud on your podcast. It was breaking my eardrums. Anytime you talk. Am I too loud now? Pat Lang, Hiller's my hero now, Folo in the sauna, Raptus in the hot tub,
Starting point is 02:11:50 Geyser legend. Raptus in the hot tub was awesome. That was pretty funny. Oh, I sound perfect. Okay, good. That's what I want to hear. All right. I want to go to breakfast.
Starting point is 02:12:11 Let me see if there's anything I got here for. Okay, I finally watched. Oh, I got to do a show. I finally watched yesterday. Took me forever to log into this TV at the Airbnb, but I watched the Dexter. Not new blood, original sin. I watched episode six of original sin. So maybe Hiller and I will do a Binge Bros show tonight. So he usually updates people on his Instagram when we're going to do those, if you're interested in doing those. Oh, okay, you guys want to have a conversation? Okay, here we go. Remember yesterday we were talking about like, I think it was Sean Lenderman brought it up. He was basically saying
Starting point is 02:13:00 something along the lines of, why is it okay to shoot someone, take someone's life if they took your personal property, right? Well, how about this one? I saw this one yesterday. Was it you, Sean, who came up with that? How about this? Listen to this right here. Chris is telling us a man attempted to steal a car when the owner was using an ATM. What an idiot. The car owner is a licensed gun owner as well and fired a shot at the suspected car thief.
Starting point is 02:13:36 Ah! Ah! Striking him once in the head. What? Ah! That man is in extremely critical condition at this hour. What an idiot. Oh, what a loser.
Starting point is 02:13:50 Good. Good. Source is telling us a man attempted to steal. So someone tries to steal your car while you're at the ATM. You turn around. You shoot him. Legit? Does that guy go away?
Starting point is 02:14:08 Does that guy go away for murder? Is that okay? To shoot someone who tries to steal your car? What if your baby's in the car? What if your kid's in the car? What if you're afraid when the guy drives away he's gonna hit you with the car? I mean that will get him in trouble for shooting at someone in the car. You can't shoot to defend your property.
Starting point is 02:14:47 What if I Google that? Can you shoot someone who steals your car? Can you shoot somebody who steals your car? What's AI? No, generally you cannot shoot someone for stealing your car in Arizona or most... What if you think, I mean, if you think your life's in danger, I think you can call her.
Starting point is 02:15:06 Hi. The provisional person can articulate that that person was in fear for his safety or his life. Then you can shoot, but in the car profited that'll let him go. Nice. You're in front of the car. He's about to hit you. That's a good shoot.
Starting point is 02:15:23 Uh, what about, uh, can you shoot it? What if your kid's in the car and he's about to hit you. That's a good shoot. What about, can you shoot, what if your kid's in the car? Obviously I'm going to shoot him. Right. But I might go to jail. You can't be like, hey, I tried to kidnap my kid. What if you're walking down the street and someone grabs your stroller and tries to run with it? Can you shoot him? And your kid's in the car. Again, I'll shoot him, but I run the risk of having 12 people convict me of murder or aggravated, whatever. Isn't that crazy?
Starting point is 02:15:57 There's gotta be some loophole. If you fuck with someone's kid, you could be shot. So kidnapping, what if someone tries to kidnap you? What if someone tries to kidnap you? What if someone tries to carjack you? What if someone pulls out a knife and they say, hey, get out of your car. I'm going to steal it. And you shoot them through the car door. Good to go.
Starting point is 02:16:16 That's a good shoot. Because that knife is a physical deadly weapon. Okay. So you just at any moment, he could kill you. Okay. So you have to say, I was afraid I was going to die. Yep. That's what they do. knife is a physical deadly weapon. Okay. So you just any moment he could kill you. Okay. So you have to say I was afraid I was going to die.
Starting point is 02:16:27 Yep. That's what they teach us in the police academy. If you're in a shooting, it's true. You are in fear for your life whenever you're pushed by someone with a knife, a gun, any type of, any type of weapon, a club, bat. any type of weapon, a club, a bat. The site Amman says Arizona law does not permit the use of deadly force solely to prevent theft of car. I guess that's because I'm in Arizona and Google knows that. If someone is trying to steal your car and you are in immediate danger, you might be able to justify using force to defend yourself. Defend yourself, That's the key. So I don't know if you had that in California, but over here on Long Island, they have a lot of catalytic converter stealings.
Starting point is 02:17:16 Oh my God. I've had three catalytic converter stolen in the Bay Area. It sucks. My same neighbor who actually goes to my gym, she got her catalytic converter stolen twice. What kind of product does she have? Does she have a Toyota? The Honda Accord. Okay. Yeah. So, that's the thing. Like, I got my guns in my room. If I hear in the morning my dog starts barking while they're stealing my catalytic converter, do I go out there and shoot them? It's just property.
Starting point is 02:17:49 Now, if in the access to my catalytic converter they show a gun, now they're good to go. Yeah. Someone says my volume is shit. I hear you great. Is it too high or too low? Perfect. Okay, good. All right.
Starting point is 02:18:12 All right, we solved that mystery. Thank you. You know, all right. Later, bro. All right. Can't shoot the guy. Your volume is too low now. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 02:18:24 What if I just hang out here like this? Better? What should I do for my headache? I never get headaches. I woke up with a headache. I wonder if I ate something shitty yesterday or something. I don't know. I don't think it's caffeine. I woke up and had two cups of coffee.
Starting point is 02:19:03 All right. Thanks for hanging. Fun show. I like having multiple guests on one show. I will see you guys later. Maybe tonight on the binge rows. Alright. No, there's no smog here. Alright. Bye bye. No, there's no smog here. Alright, bye bye.

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