The Sevan Podcast - Greg Glassman | Live Call In - Are Planes Safe - The Boeing disaster

Episode Date: April 4, 2024

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Starting point is 00:01:00 Bam, we're live. Yes, we are. Good morning, KDI. She, we are. Good morning. Katie, hi. Sheboygan. Sheboygan. I don't know what that means, but okay. Good morning, Ernie. Hey, what's up, dude? The real Kevin, hey. It's funny that Froning goes
Starting point is 00:01:16 live at the same time as Seven does. Oh. I don't think they go live. I'm gonna see. I don't think they go live.'m gonna see I don't think they go live I think the uncancellable crew is actually cancelable
Starting point is 00:01:33 I think that is a might be a gimmick let me see we should have Rich back on and ask him does Mayhem actually go live they donhem actually go live? They don't actually go live, right? No, they just do premieres all the time.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Yeah, premieres. It's weird that people do premieres. I wonder if they know what they're doing. I was talking about with Hillary yesterday. CrossFit did a premiere yesterday, and there were 29 people watching. And Hillary and I were, 29 people watching and hillary and i were like scratching our heads like the good thing is is if you do premiere you get uh the what the difference between a premiere and not a premiere is that basically the chat opens up so people can talk
Starting point is 00:02:15 in real time but the show is not actually live so it's not recorded yeah and those those messages don't get saved either like they don't get get, there are no comments. It's just, it's right here basically. have comments at the bottom of a YouTube video, what that does is that keeps people watching your video longer. That basically the whole, the algorithm doesn't necessarily look at comments, but it's basically just on one thing is the thought, the conventional wisdom. It's the duration people spend watching your video that increases impressions. And then the more people that increase your impressions, you get pushed higher in the algorithm so there's probably it's probably the simple way to say it is is that the more views you get the more opportunities that people take to watch your video and the longer they stay watching your video are the two most important things and so
Starting point is 00:03:20 if you do it's always been that way for websites. Yeah. Hi. You mean like for even Google SEO, search engine optimization? They track how long you've been there? Google does? No, I mean, we did for CrossFit.com. We knew what the average engagement was, where they gave up. Oh, right, right.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Put up 15 pages is something you could tell how many people went to all 15 pages. Right, right. Are you at home? Yeah. Oh, I don't recognize your. Oh, yes. Shut. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:57 The classroom. The school's poured over. I think I've claimed a new room. We don't have guests stay over here anymore. poured over, I think I've claimed a new room. We don't have guests stay over here anymore. I've got posters and violins and shit. It's great. I've conquered a room.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Good on you. I bought a house and conquered one of the rooms. Susan, I'm sending you the show notes. You may have ruined flying for me greg holy cow yeah i'm gonna watch that uh did you have you watched the algiers your documentary that came out i wanna i wanna get on an airbus badly how come i? I think Boeing has the problems that it has
Starting point is 00:04:50 from just the articles I sent you. Don't bode well. Yeah, but why do you want to get on one then? No, I don't. I'm an Airbus guy. I'm looking for the competitors. Right. We'm an Airbus guy. Looking for the competitors. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:07 I don't. You know, we're going to Bora Bora. I don't want to do it on a Boeing. This. Ignorance, but I don't like the kinds of problems. Look, let me tell you what it reminds me of, if I can. A quick story. Long story. We got 90 minutes. it fill it up let's go all right so you know we we bought this house and then there was a leak from all of a sudden and it had with the first rain for whatever year that was 2021 the first year rain of that year happened in November. They're having a drought and it dripped water into the house.
Starting point is 00:05:48 And we finally get to the, it's coming from the little bit of rain we had, went through a deck up top on the second floor and into the master bedroom. So we had to rip the walls open and, and the, uh, Holdsworth's roofer, uh, got on Google Earth and turned the clock back and watched him build the house and watched the orange membrane not get put down on the entire deck. He saw the inventory of membrane disappear and blah, blah, blah. The tile guys come. He watched the tile get set. You know, and this is just in these increments. It's a pretty cool thing to do, right?
Starting point is 00:06:25 Forensic roofing. So the guys got busted not putting the membrane down and tiling a deck. And we ended up with this mess on a two-year-old home, right? I said, you have to bust into the other decks and look at them. And like, why? And I said, because that dishonest work, it's not a one time thing. And sure enough, in the second deck, we checked there was a black mold and rotted lumber to the tune of filling a 40 yard dumpster. And so at some point you can just count on, it's a, it's a form of trust.
Starting point is 00:07:12 The character, his character was revealed in the first deck. What do you think? He does good work on the other decks. Come on. Do you, do you think, uh,
Starting point is 00:07:22 just to dig into the word you used, um um i don't know if you said dishonest or but do you think it's just negligence ignorance or you think it's uh uh dishonest in the sense that to save money it's probably some wonderful stew a bouillabaisse of all that shit so i had a skateboard it's a very similar issue i had a skateboard ramp they said it would last three years they said after three years if you don't cover it uh it will rot um so after three years it did rot but the top layer that masonite layer the stuff they call skate light that's like six hundred dollars a sheet for a four by eight sheet um it was fine so my neighbor who's a contractor comes over he pulls up all the skate light and underneath it,
Starting point is 00:08:05 all the plywood was completely rotted and the cross beams were rotted. So he, him and his two, two sons completely rebuild the ramp. And on the piece of plywood, they paint it with this stuff that's pink. And they, the guy basically tells me,
Starting point is 00:08:19 Hey, they should have done this the first time. Basically this stuff I'm putting on your wood, you can make a shower pan out of now. And then he put the skate light he's like it's better than new so it's kind of it's kind of the same thing but i don't think the first uh i don't think the skateboard manufacturer is told i mean i don't think the people we bought because you buy the ramp and it comes on a pallet right you pay five or seven grand i forget what it is and the entire ramp shows up on a pallet with pre-drilled holes that none of them line up right and um and you put it together we had we had oc
Starting point is 00:08:53 ramps come out and there's a little plug for them they were awesome yeah they they manufacture and assembled your ramp i bought mine from keen it was was a great ramp, but I didn't have them assemble it. I had like a family plan. To be in fairness, where you live, like at my house in Santa Cruz, my teak rots to nothing. We had a table that we'd picked up in Los Gatos
Starting point is 00:09:18 of some kind of hardwood. I remember the table. It was an outdoor table. We brought it to the patio store, right? And every year we'd have to have people from the boat yard, refinish it every year. And finally the wind picked it up and dashed it to worthless.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Oh, I'd never heard that story. Wow. Yeah. The wind took that thing, wrapped it around an Oak tree, a hundred yards away. That table wasn't cheap. Yeah, the wind took that thing. Wrapped it around an oak tree 100 yards away. That table wasn't cheap.
Starting point is 00:09:48 No, but the expense of that table was the near annual refinishing. Because they had to take all those slots out and sand them. So, yeah, of course it rotted. You can't really do wood there. Right. Because we sit in a marine layer for five hours every day yeah yeah yeah yeah that was the same um there was a while here where i was growing marijuana in the backyard years ago and uh you could never get it to harvest because they get into these they get into these
Starting point is 00:10:19 big colas and then there's no air between the the flowers that are getting so tight and then the whole you literally one day it's beautiful and the next day it's just completely rotted toast i bet you that happens to a lot of fruit here a lot of plants here yeah but there's there's places where you can grow anything too you know yeah another 100 yards up the road from me or another hunt you know what i mean yeah probably at the top of your hill. You probably can grow more to significantly. I have paddle cactus and Redwoods on the little chunk.
Starting point is 00:10:54 God. And that's the best thing about California. You can grow pretty much anything, anywhere. Uh, Jed and I S Nelson will be on Pedro's game show today Everyone tune in I think that's at 12 o'clock Pacific Standard Time
Starting point is 00:11:10 A regular on the Savant Podcast Jedediah, I hope you represent So the Boeing thing I guess Al Jazeera made a documentary After reading those two articles you sent me I guess Al Jazeera made a documentary in 2011. They were ahead of their time. The comments on this documentary are amazing.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Everyone's like, hey, this is the most important documentary anyone could ever watch. Wow, 6,700 comments. Wow. This documentary never gets old. Here we are 10 years later. This is one of the most important documentaries of all time back here again due to boeing whistleblower so the guy died the whistleblower killed himself died was like six days before the trial yeah and then he told his sister or somebody close to him was like hey if i if i died it's not because i killed myself
Starting point is 00:12:02 so man oh man if I died, it's not because I killed myself. Man, oh man. Hey, in that article you sent me, I'm sure you remember, Greg, there was a portion in there where I guess they had an area of the warehouse where they put parts that were... Defective. Yes, defective. Defective parts. And not only were they never logged in. But the parts went missing.
Starting point is 00:12:28 And the people presumed that they were installed in the planes. Yes. Oh my God. They said. One of the other things that just steps out. Is there were. The average plane in the air. Had 20,000 issues with it.
Starting point is 00:12:46 That needed addressing. 20 000 per plane that's an insane number what they're just minor issues you know it's still a flyable aircraft you know you can put 200 people on there and fly them to san francisco from miami it's all good people on there and fly them to San Francisco from Miami. It's all good. Mark Andreessen had a quote. I think he was the founder of Netscape. Is that right? What's the guy's name?
Starting point is 00:13:16 Mark Andreessen. Okay. Big tech name from early days. And he's a Twitter. He said, without commenting on this specific piece, and that was the one that we're talking to. We're referring to here. He says former Boeing CEO, Jim McNerney's background, Yale HBS Harvard business school, P and G McKenzie, GE,
Starting point is 00:13:41 all five teach practice that people are fungible against any kind of business. And this is the throng of MBAs that downgraded the significance of engineers and engineering in management. And it's a big money-saving effort. And the stock price did what? It catapulted. And planes fell out of the sky.
Starting point is 00:14:10 It's fucking perfect. There was a Reddit thread that Mulvaney had shown me years ago. Do you remember this? I do. I just remember because you and I were talking about it a little while ago. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Software engineer was explaining the changes there and it was amazing i mean you it this you this is the kind of thing you couldn't keep a secret for long and here we are here we are it's it predicted fuck it people were shouting about this, shouting about it. The article said that they used to build everything in-house. And then with this new management that you're referencing, they started outsourcing the building of the parts to companies that didn't have engineering departments. They subbed it. They subbed it to people who then unknowing to them, subbed it again and subbed it again and then it to people who then unknowing to them subbed it again and subbed it again and then went bankrupt and then they'd have to buy everything that was involved
Starting point is 00:15:10 and and i don't sub it out again who knows another thing they said is is as these changes occurred the average um duration it took to get through a project increased by 50 times. 50. I kept MBAs at an extraordinary arm's length. Had no interest in them. In fact, we should talk with oh come on the name will come to me but uh i just had no need for him i didn't need an exercise physiologist i've never had need for a nutritionist there was that we employed none listened to none uh an exercise physiologist had had some friends that were exercise physiologists, but there was no place for them in the business. And the same with an MBA.
Starting point is 00:16:13 I don't want to miscarry. I would expect, and I would expect being just kind of traditional business, business, I would expect MBAs, exercise physiologists, and a nutritionist to nest in the corporate structure and fuck up the business. That would be my
Starting point is 00:16:33 expectation. I didn't keep them away out of some personal thing. You kept them out because? They had nothing to fucking offer nothing right right nothing to offer factory of bad ideas young young people with no experience full of bad ideas they went to they got a master's degree in bad fucking ideas and another i don't want to mischaracterize remember those those sweet kids at hbs and those were smart kids had some amazing talent in there which hb what's hbs
Starting point is 00:17:14 business school kids oh yeah yeah remember how that how fucked up their thinking would be when we'd start in the beginning yeah i'd have to battle then at the end we'd vote and there was a pretty good we had a dramatic shift in the attitude in the space of several hours of passion shit out with them but you could you could feel that being a factory for this shitty thinking you would tell we didn't do marketing you're in the media department you had this one message that you repeated over and over and over and feel free to fix it but basically anything we made was not to be thought of selling things it was to be giving things so like if we made a video someone should learn something from it and you wouldn't even let us uh we would post
Starting point is 00:18:06 an article about something someone learned in a level one you know someone lost 100 pounds and they look there would be a piece in there about some squat therapy tool that they learned in some cues and then we would want to put a link on the page that said if you'd like to go to a level one click here and you're like no and we're like but greg but people would might want to go now that we've said this and you're like no they want to go they'll find it all we do is we just give shit away we just add value our media should only add value we didn't do we didn't do like facebook buys or instagram buys or we didn't do we we gave away we gave away millions of dollars of subscription media by just pulling off the paywall and let the world have at it.
Starting point is 00:18:51 And the reason for that is I was asking what sits behind the paywall, the good shit. And so what the stuff you get to see for free is the crap. Are we going to put let the world see our best and then and then sell i mean i could never it never felt right and it wouldn't now i still i still don't have any fondness for a model like that my the model i like is is give something life-altering give it away and then and then let people pay for a for a more in-depth kind of experience i'm used to launch the level one saying there's nothing there's nothing you're going to learn this weekend and then there was an except for but there's nothing you're
Starting point is 00:19:36 going to learn this weekend a reasonably bright 10 year old couldn't apologize our website this morning i think it was 12 except except that you squat shitty that's not on my website and it worked it was billions of dollars i mean hundreds and hundreds of millions yeah just be honest hey and you even had on the original website hey don't contact us everything you need is here please do not contact us um do you remember that it was it was more aggressive than that actually i hear that the the that uh nicole made reference to uh uh nicole carroll reference to uh uh nicole carroll a lab my lavish lifestyle and what's funny is that what i took from the company was was a fraction of what any owner would take or would have would have recommended be taken hundreds of millions of dollars um was spent uh discretionarily out of which my take was was
Starting point is 00:20:50 was was insignificant insignificant to the operation she said that recently? Yeah. Yep. Well, she must really hate private equity. I wonder what she says about them. Let's say that is true, just for a second. Play along with me. Let's say you were taking just shitloads of money.
Starting point is 00:21:23 No, you know, look, I sit here wishing I'd taken more. Do you understand that? I know. You said that to me yesterday or a couple last week. You're like, fuck, I should have taken more money. If I had taken the smooth billion off the fucking top over a decade, you know, if I'd skimmed more, it would have sold for a lot more. The people looked at the books and they thought this shit, like the games was necessary. There's gotta be some reason we spend 25 million to get 20 back.
Starting point is 00:21:56 That must be the whole, what makes it go. Let me just say, you know, it's funny though. I just tell the games, no one would have it. Nobody, nobody, nobody. They're like, Oh, we like this training thing in the affiliate part. That's pretty cool. I mean, yeah, that's the, that is the cool part. Cause that's what makes the money, right?
Starting point is 00:22:18 Yeah. Yeah. You're not, no one's, you have to be stupid to, to believe what most CrossFitters think that the games are did you ever sell more l1s during the games period than any other time of the year it didn't matter it was actually the worst time of the year it was all hands on deck we did less of everything yeah oh wow it was like it was like you put like i said i use the example like imagine you've got a successful ford dealership and the cars are rolling off the lot. And someone says, hey, you'd be neat to have a clown here and some cotton candy for when people bring their kids.
Starting point is 00:22:50 Right. And then you come back a year later and there's 400 clowns. And they're fucking you. They've made salesmen are now making cotton candy in the in the cars aren't selling. No, the dealership's closed. It's the clown day. Not making any cars. It's just a clown show. We would close the dealership for two weeks for clown and cotton candy week. It looked on the books like business cancer. It was consuming an ever-increasing amount of every resource you could metric, right?
Starting point is 00:23:24 Mm-hmm. amount of of every resource you could metric right and and in a in a negligible profit or cost i mean it we you know it came came bunch of close to break even kind of shit but you put the money up front and it would come back over the over a period of time and so you really couldn't close out the books till six months later to figure out what the total carnage and cost was. And then there were immeasurables, like, what do you mean all the affiliate gals are in Madison and are going to be there for two weeks, right? It was a trip. It was a trip. But anything that grows at a greater rate. See, the company was growing nicely,
Starting point is 00:24:07 but the games was growing even faster. And breaking even. And breaking even. And that's a drag on a business. It's a tumor. It's a fucking tumor on a company. Well, and also to say this, the company was growing because of demand.
Starting point is 00:24:26 The games was not growing because of demand. It was just being grown. Yeah. Like people weren't banging on the doors more, bigger, more, bigger, more, bigger. It was just... People were pushing it along kind of thing? Greg, this pains me to say this because I fancy myself as the hardest worker alive, This pains me to say this because I fancy myself as the hardest worker alive. But you were the hardest worker and the biggest contributor to CrossFit with no second place, and you were taking a commensurate paycheck.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Now there's a ton of people at the company, just like at Boeing, who are taking money who have no involvement. The people who are in your position who are taking the largest portion of the paycheck are not contributing anything. They have a portfolio of companies. And so it's crazy to mention anything about your pay without your 24, 7, 365 involvement in the company. There was never, there was never Christmas for you or your birthday. I never saw you take a day off in 20 years of your fucking life. The cost was your life.
Starting point is 00:25:33 I was taking a shrinking percentage of a rapidly growing pie. The model was leased rents. We presented it at Harvard. The books, you could bear it out with the numbers. I mean, it wasn't that complicated.
Starting point is 00:25:55 A shrinking percentage of a rapidly expanding pie. I used to, you know, fuck, dude, there was a time where I took 100% of what the company made. Right? Yeah. You know, you make make 75,000 fucking uncle sam i remember playing with fucking turbo tax until i could get an outcome that was equivalent to what i had that i could give you the play by the rules on a on a small business tax is creates a near impossible barrier to getting off the ground.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Yeah. That's a really good point. There was a time in the company when you took the entire booty home. Oh, you rode your bike and you brought the coffee can home from, from the office. Right. Lauren's first job was taking the checks that were in my desk drawer and getting them over to the bank
Starting point is 00:26:54 heidi crew uh here's my subscription money for the premium savvy content thank you seven please send the premium private content to my dms yeah we have so much of it pouring out thank you for your brand loyalty payment Thank you for your brand loyalty payment. I'm so glad to be done with that. But aren't you glad you did it? Oh, yeah. I got no regrets. I should have taken more money out.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Yeah. Not that I need any, but... In hindsight. I worked for that fucking company. I lived for it. And it was providing everything I had. I mean, it was feeding my family and all my friends' families. My dad, my sister, everyone worked for us it was a that was a that was a low you know my friend with the pringle can
Starting point is 00:27:54 yeah yeah um so he he had this girlfriend who always wanted him to do this crazy shit to him and he never wanted to do it to her. And then she broke up and he regretted not doing that crazy shit to her. That she always wanted. And it kind of reminds me of when you say, damn, I should have taken more money. I should have paid myself more. The one that got away.
Starting point is 00:28:20 Ironically, she dumped him because he didn't make enough money. That's sad. Well, I'm sorry to hear that. I wonder what the context... Oh, that there's some higher aim. Like now than there was before? It used to be that everyone worked to uh to support me and now there's now there's a greater purpose oh shit something something
Starting point is 00:28:53 like that oh god oh god uh vindicate uh to help down and out former company owner. Keep your head up, Greg. Someday you'll make it. What's crazy is... Hey, check this out. I was thinking about, you know, in the broken science sense, this makes Emily laugh because I think it's been obvious to her. But imagine a broad, general, inclusive curriculum when the specialty wasn't specializing that would prepare this student for the unknown and the unknowable can you imagine such a thing i'm starting to go on yeah i know we're just all it was everyone laughs at me you know like i was last to see it but yeah that's what we're doing would it would have some math yeah uh we we'd bridge uh qualitative and quantitative reasoning
Starting point is 00:29:53 eventually at uh probability theory is logic and where information theory and maximum entropy and all that kind of stuff sits but the work has has been done. There's been a bridge of the qualitative and the quantitative in probability theory. Cox's theorem, something to look up, Wikipedia article on it. Might even be some. Cox's theorem. Cox's theorem. Cox's theorem. Cox's theorem named after the physicist Richard Threckeld Cox is a derivation of the laws of probability derived by cox's theorem are applicable to any proposition logical to any proposition logical probability is
Starting point is 00:30:50 a bayesian probability other forms of bayesian such as the subjective interpretation are given other justifications no idea what i read yeah it's uh this is this is at the heart of of uh this is at the heart of probability theory as developed and summarized by Janes, E.T. Janes. And he's the maximum entropy guy. But anyways, this material and this work, this space is a bridging of qualitative and quantitative reasoning. And it's a significant, maximum entropy is a significant contribution to information theory.
Starting point is 00:31:33 And what's cool is that what this implies for a curriculum is that, and James was maybe one of the first to realize that probability theory is used by Laplace and Jeffries, that it's an extension of Aristotelian logic where deductive logic precipitates in the special case where our hypotheses are ones and zeros. It's a wonderful technical treatise, but more importantly, the implications and applications have been enormously fruitful in a whole bunch of areas. And we had one of the maximum entropy gurus out at the Broken Science thing here in Scottsdale, gurus out at the broken science thing here in Scottsdale in Anton Garrett. And in fact, he's one of the contributors to a book that people in this field all hold and play with and look at. Six contributors. And what's the book?
Starting point is 00:32:45 Maximum Entropy in Action, I think. Weird title. It's storky stuff. Is his talk from the BSI event that just happened in Arizona, is that going to be published on the BSI website? Yeah, it sure should be. That's why we shot it. Yeah, he's actually made some significant contributions to Cox theorem and added some some.
Starting point is 00:33:10 There we go. Anton Garrett is one of the chapters in there. Is that readable? Oh, man. I appreciate you taking a deep breath there and not just saying, of course, it is, you idiot. I appreciate you breathing a deep breath there and not just saying, of course it is, you idiot. I appreciate you giving me a little breathing room with that question. No, no, it's not. Wow. Okay. Good to know.
Starting point is 00:33:35 So wait for the talk to come out on the BSI site. Here's what's cool. you can get an understanding and the applications like plausibility I'll come back to but the proof is in the pudding in what people are doing with this for instance
Starting point is 00:33:58 the focusing of pictures that were taken out of focus oh wow yeah and so that there's uh there's uh the the fruits of maximum entropy are are wonderful um detailed and it's ai so like the algorithm shit that like photoshop uses to fix shit yeah there's uh i don't want to i don't want to speak to the applications but but uh they're they've been wonderfully fruitful um i've asked anton several times to talk to me about the different maximum entropy conferences and who was there and what they were doing and the kinds of success. And some of it has been really cool, like taking old data from radio telescopes and made what they thought there was nothing of value, found deep sky objects with crazy detail.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Magnitudes, greater resolution on old data. That's pretty cool, right? Yeah, I'm guessing those companies don't have DEI departments, I'm guessing. It's the newest and best work in computing leans heavily on probability theory as a logic. And Jane's book, he says it's entitled Probability Theory, the Logic of Science. And it is. It's aptly named.
Starting point is 00:35:40 It's a brilliant work. The cats over at Less Wrong have a deep respect for James, and it's worth reading. The Level Above Mine by Yudkowsky. I'm looking at Less Wrong, what that is. Oh, the community blog devoted to refining the art of rationality? Yeah, Yudkowsky and Perl are there. And Perl got like the equivalent of kind of the Nobel Prize,
Starting point is 00:36:16 the Turing Prize for computing. He's a UCLA philosopher and computer science genius. That's Daniel Pearl's dad. And this polymath, unusual character, Yudkowsky, the level of both minds. It read rough for me. Maybe left a little bad taste in my mouth. And the comments were intriguing. And I read it again. Each time I read it, I have a little more sympathy and understanding, but it's a, it's funny. And it's a, it's a powerful read. And these, these guys are smart as shit. I mean, it's crazy, but one of the discussions that it's a, it's a one or two page printed out article.
Starting point is 00:37:01 And then I think it's 40 or 50 pages of comments, but the subject ultimately started about James and what he's saying is that there was a form of ability and a strength and power to what he'd done and seemed that he hasn't seen before and I agree I think that James is one of the most important physicists of clearly of my lifetime. And I have him on a par with like an Einstein. But the field, it's in the information theory space. It's in the philosophy of science.
Starting point is 00:37:38 And it's a contribution that only a physicist could make. Look at these guys. These guys that put this stuff together are all hard science types. And what they did was fixed some gaping, disastrous errors in the academic concept of science. David Stove is part of that. And so you've got these guys like me, like Briggs, like Jim Franklin,
Starting point is 00:38:03 that are huge fans of stove and of james when you say holes can you tell us what any of those are like that we would understand yeah i mean the the my journey with this my outreach began by sending just a simple sentence via email um that when science replaces uh strength with consensus as a determinant of a model's validity, science becomes nonsense. And that was a big fish head on a hook. I mean, I caught the smartest people, people that I thought were the smartest on Earth, because I learned what little I knew from them. Right. So I led with that.
Starting point is 00:38:45 And then others showed up. Like when David Hassan has walked into this thing and look who that guy is. He's a legendary physicist, an important man. 95-year-old physicist found his way to my house from stuff he'd seen on the – and knew that Anton was going to be here. That was the guy that showed up at 8.45 and had breakfast, right? Yeah, Maggie took him in and took care of him. Thing is, he showed up at 8.30 without a ride, 95 years old, hungry.
Starting point is 00:39:19 So she made him breakfast. I got to tell you. And you look him up. I mean, look, he's got a Wikipediaikipedia page it's a it's a it's a tough chew just reading what he did i gotta tell you uh this story maybe greg will want to tell it better than me but there was a guy at the event who his job was he was he's in charge of uh moving nuclear materials or very high uh very dangerous objects around the united states of america very very the most dangerous assets that we have, moving them around the United States of America.
Starting point is 00:39:48 He was tasked with safeguarding the transportation of the nation's most sensitive physical asset. Okay, yes. I'm not supposed to say what those are. Anyway, and so he was at the event, and the event was over, and people were supposed to go home and come back a couple hours later. And this 95 year old guy was sitting there and he wouldn't leave he's just hanging out this physicist so um someone's like hey uh will you ask him to leave so this guy's like one of the toughest human beings you
Starting point is 00:40:16 just look at him and he's one of the toughest you know he's one of the toughest human beings you've ever seen in your life and he walks over to him and, uh, and he, and he talks to him and, uh, I don't remember who he came back to. He's like, nah. And we're like, what? He's like, I'm not telling that dude to leave. We're like, what's up? That's what do you mean? You're not telling him to leave. It's over. He's like, nah, you go tell the 95 year old physicist to leave. That's, that's like, that's above my pay grade oh that was so good so he just stayed the party was over and he stayed until the next party started yeah you're doing something right when a guy like that crashes your party yeah right
Starting point is 00:40:56 in fact he wants to see footage from sunday he couldn't come back well we got it that's why he wanted to stay i bet it's like soak it all up he just hey that guy would have stayed the night you should have just put him in one of the rooms yeah i was caught off guard you know there was a lot going on a lot of moving pieces but what a delight haley walked up to him and was like uh sir, we have a van here for you. It'll take you back to your house and bring you back when the 5 o'clock event starts. He's like, no, no, I'm good. I'll stay. I was just like, I'm going to do that shit when I'm 95 too.
Starting point is 00:41:36 No, I'm good. His father started UCLA's math department when it opened. Crazy. Wow. Yeah, big family. And an E.T. James fan. Greg, this is going back to what we were talking about before. If you hired a replacement, who's on that list?
Starting point is 00:42:03 Before you, this is to run crossfit before you answer that i remember in the early days you would say shit i can't even give this thing to my kids this thing is too like valuable like this thing can't go down the message here is so valuable i don't know how we're going to protect it cure for the world's most vexing problem yeah yeah it's it creates this much health and wealth should never be sold did you did you ever was there ever like in your mind like even now just sitting here now are you like no i don't think that there is a replacement for you i've told you that many times i don't say that to be a sycophant i just it's your it's your it's your creation i didn't i didn't run it the way that you would run a business
Starting point is 00:42:52 you don't think anybody else would do that either huh no i know they would take the money that i wish i'd taken nicole it was it was really hard to um in in defense of those people I was around you all the time and I heard the message and it was still really hard like I still wanted to sell CrossFit visors and Greg's like no I'm like but I want one he's like no yeah it was it was um you kept your you kept your eye on the prize. The health of the affiliates, um, provided everyone's opportunity, their strength. In other words, plying their trade on the people in their community and the impact it had on their lives was business, was income and purpose. Like a thousand, thousands of fires around the world.
Starting point is 00:44:00 So you go to a gym in Kenya and it's the same shit's going on. It's the same cool people with different colored skin, speaking a different language. It didn't matter. It was cool. It was cool. The reception we got in China with the affiliates there was spectacular. And that was the business. That was the business. And what what would tease every single fucking MBA on earth is the opportunity at that many points
Starting point is 00:44:40 of presence to migrate them to points of sale. to start looking at your own kids as as uh customers that link that you have that um every affiliate with the whole thing could also be just called the professionalization of the training space right Right. And you did call it that. Because what comes, I do and did and it was. Because what comes next like say selling them training, prescription, workouts, whatever you want to call it.
Starting point is 00:45:24 I don't, I've lost interest in the profession at that point. I can imagine similar behavior coming out of a physician or a lawyer, me saying no thanks. if my doctor had to always ask some other doctor about my case, I'd be wanting to get to the other doctor. No. Yes. Yes. Sure.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Yes. A friend of mine went to the doctor the other day. They went to Stanford. I would have done that. And it's a, I guess it's the doctor the other day. They went to Stanford. I would have done that. And it's a, I guess it's a teaching hospital. Yeah. And they said to me, Hey dude,
Starting point is 00:46:12 it's not cool what you've done to me. I'm like, what do you mean? Well, the doctor came in and it was with a black woman, a black woman doctor. And I'm like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:20 And I said, and the first thing I thought was, Oh, is this a DEI hire? And I said, you don't need to think if it's a dei hire it that it it's it's a hunt like they're completely open about it it is 100 a dei hire like it has nothing they've already told us they're hiring people based on
Starting point is 00:46:39 their based on their sex their sexual preference and the color of their skin. And then my friend said, but what if the doctor's good? And I said, what if they are good? We will never know now because you know they're a DEI hire. I was actually, this led to another conversation, Greg. This woman that they've appointed to the Supreme Court, think about someone like Jackie Robinson, right? He earned everything he got. He earned it all.
Starting point is 00:47:03 He fucking earned it all he fucking earned it all and now they appoint a black woman to the supreme court and i don't see her as a as a as the first black woman supreme court justice any more than i see a lion in a cage as a lion at the zoo as being a real lion like like they've completely undermined the whole where's the aspiration for someone like it is it is really cool to earn something based on your own merit all that aspiration is just fucking out the door they're just it's like they're just burning the aspiration equity out the door by doing that double down on being a woman double down on being native american or whatever the Burning the aspiration equity out the door by doing that. Double down on being a woman.
Starting point is 00:47:52 Double down on being Native American or whatever the DEI flavor of the month is, and you're fucking in. I started thinking about that, how sad that is that that was given to that lady and taken away from all those little girls out there. The End of Race Politics, Coleman Hughes. Good book? Yeah. Yeah. I got... Russell Berger turned me on to it. That's the second book in a month
Starting point is 00:48:15 he's turned you on to. That was the parenting one. Yes. Hey, this is how cool it is to be friends with Gregreg by the way a russell burger turned him onto a book and then a week later i walk into greg's house and there's a stack of the books at the table of that book for people to take as they come as they visit them hey grab one of those yep yep i i knew of coleman hughes from uh national review and you can read a book like this in in an hour
Starting point is 00:49:07 it's uh there's so little that you really have it's it's it's there's not a lot you have to think about there's something wrong with you if it doesn't just of course oh he's young uh coleman hughes is an american writer and podcast host he was the fellow at the manhattan institute of policy research and a fellow and contributing editor at the city journal and he's the host of the podcast Conversations with Coleman. Grew up in Montclair, New Jersey. Nice town. On June 19, 2019, Hughes testified before U.S. House Judiciary Subcommittee at a hearing on reparations for slavery, arguing against the campaign. He argued that if we were to pay reparations today, we would only divide the country further,
Starting point is 00:49:45 making it harder to build the political coalitions required to solve the problems facing black people today. In this vein, he highlighted mass incarceration and high homicide victimization rates as problems affecting black Americans today. He suggested an alternative proposal by paying reparations to black Americans who
Starting point is 00:50:01 personally grew up under Jim Crow. He's got a Ted talk. Damn, he's young. Born 1996, 28 years old. That's always cool to see. He was on Forbes. He was on the 30 under 30 list of Forbes, too. I saw it now that I recognize his face.
Starting point is 00:50:24 He was on CNN. He destroyed the host. Classic. Yeah. I wonder if I can find that. That's cool. I fell into the P. Diddy vortex. Oh really?
Starting point is 00:50:43 Yeah. What did you find um uh here first i'm going to play this here real quick let me play this here real quick uh look at this this is colman hughes uh the author of that book greg just showed us on uh cnn let me know if you guys can hear this i don't think there was anything about this it had to do with the fact that she was a Black woman. If you or I did this, or even any white scholar, it would be career-ending to have 50 examples of plagiarism. And it has to be, because how can you be the one
Starting point is 00:51:15 upholding Harvard's integrity when you yourself have failed? What's your view on whether or not this idea that the race of the person accused is not important here. So I think it's definitely a point here that really we have to look at. Why is it that it took seven weeks to decide that this was too much,
Starting point is 00:51:36 whereas the president of Stanford got seven months for similar allegations? Plagiarism, it's not like true crime where there's a million perspectives on it. You kind of either lifted the paragraph or you didn't. It's just great work right there. You either lifted the paragraph or you didn't. You know, it's like that for me.
Starting point is 00:51:58 It was funny, the Western blot misconduct in the Alzheimer's research. They hire a guy and he claims that he hasn't proven scientific misconduct, but the paper needs to be retracted and there's evidence perhaps for the misconduct. And so I look at it and what it was was the taking a western block from an old study and stretch the x-axis shrunk the y-axis and colored it yellow but it had some of the same photographic artifacts you know lint and shit from the from the original and it was busted by machine fucking computer caught the frog okay a bot designed to chase
Starting point is 00:52:48 down images and compare them and found look here's one that's been stretched and shrunk and colored and it's the same picture that's no accident right printer malfunction that's that's the security camera watching you drag the body out and throw it in the back of your truck that's what that is uh matt burns don't bore greg with the pd garbage listen listen you have to understand this is it's greg greg glassman is a renaissance man the last show here he was schooling us on the guy who shot fucking tupac that's true yeah yeah like he lined up back was the line what what he lined him up oh right um the the most the most concerning thing that i saw while going into the P. Diddy research, and I basically did all my research on YouTube, was I noticed that these videos that I was watching that were 10 to 20 minutes long appeared to be made by AI because the pronunciation of all the names was wrong.
Starting point is 00:54:06 was wrong and so i started getting this impression that there is a program out there that you can just type in a story like you could put in an essay that's like you know that takes 15 minutes to read the ai will read it and then put images to it and tell any story you want i started getting that impression i'm like uh-oh because they already have that for short clips you know so why not have it for 20-minute pieces? Do you know about the journal articles that have been exposed or suspected of being AI written? And there's now tests. There's script that you can run to look for AI. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:41 And there's people that professors have called out out students i know this was written by ai have you oh yeah mentioned any of that no no no but i've seen that i've seen that maybe you brought it up a few shows ago it's it's it's fun because i can i can do it too and one guy was saying on a that it didn't say anything. It doesn't. No, it has that distinctive feature of going nowhere. It's what AI can do. AI can mimic very bad writing. This is the app you can use to see if something's AI called transparent. AI.
Starting point is 00:55:27 It approximates, it approximates a lot of the shit I read at the New York times. Really? Have you, have you noticed an increasing tendency to, to delay the point of the fucking article? Oh yes. So much background. It's like, gee whiz,
Starting point is 00:55:49 chick. When are you going to get to the fucking story? It's like reading a recipe. They tell you about how they developed the recipe and how their mom came up with the shit and then the recipe itself is at the way bottom and then how to do all the ingredients even further. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:06 At the end, we find out we're supposed to make a key lime pie and I don't want one. You know? Right. Yeah. I want a pecan pie. Justin H there's also an AI that can take the AI out of it. Pat what I'm saying is so right now I can take this
Starting point is 00:56:24 I can take this show and I can put it into this software called Opus and it will break this show into 50 clips. And then there's little sliders I can slide and I can slide the sliders so that we'll start putting in pictures. So if Greg says, yeah, so I rescued a woman from a burning building, then it would show flames go across the stream screen and it'll put in the audio of a fire truck. And then it'll take some images and show Greg, right? And it automates the whole thing. And so what I'm saying is how easy would it be to publicly destroy someone to write 50 essays talking about how Caleb has a meth lab under the Shattuck in and tell, write 50 different essays on it, put it in the software.
Starting point is 00:57:10 And it's like pulling up all the, the images and then assembling it with one second cuts and keeps everyone's attention. I mean, might even be true. The brain. So it just sounds like a crazy brainwashing tool. Wow.
Starting point is 00:57:23 Haven't seen you in a while. He sounds like my father just read inked the whole thing. Hi, Allison. Joe, I think Greg Sevan and one deliciously attractive man. Oh, that's you, Caleb. Aw, thanks, Joe. I just took the CPAT, the fitness test for the fire department that he's on. Yeah. Really? Yeah, yeah. took the uh the c-pat the fitness test for the fire department that he's on yeah really yeah yeah he's uh he just got onto the fire department in my local in my town yeah and uh my wife and i just
Starting point is 00:57:54 took the test yesterday as well congratulations thanks but what's the test deuce i'm not fault tracking it's a fitness test it's just like uh like we did a written test and then we did a fitness test why get on a fire department oh are you gonna be a volunteer firefighter professional no volunteer fear wait you're you're gonna you're thinking about becoming a firefighter caleb yeah god i hate that slow to it okay this is a greg glassman ai the well let's see if greg uh if the word if he knows that the words are actually his i think greg went to the bathroom yeah it might have yeah a damn seven where have you been why has caleb been talking about uh going to the fire department i that would cause me serious distress i probably have to block that out i've never said it i've ever said anything about okay yeah mason you douche canoe it's okay he doesn't he doesn't
Starting point is 00:58:57 look at my instagram either so why oh is it has it been on your instagram no i just very i just put a picture of our test. My wife actually beat me in the test. So if anybody has any questions about how fit my wife is and how she just beats the shit out of me all the time, that's part of it. She smoked me on the test. Since she's already a firefighter, did she do it just for moral support? No, so she has to get on another department too, and that's part of the whole process.
Starting point is 00:59:23 They make you do the whole process again. Bill Grund on another department, too. And that's part of the whole thing. Like make the whole process. Make you do the whole process again. Bill Grundler. Hi, coach. Long time. Hey, Bill. OK. We'll see, Bill.
Starting point is 00:59:35 Yeah, let's do that. Inferno, San Luis Obispo. Let's go to San Luis Obispo, but pretend like we're visiting, Bill. I know a good place to stay there. Great. I know a good place to get a hamburger. Greg, this is
Starting point is 00:59:53 your voice in AI with your actual... Andrew Hiller put this up yesterday. This is your writing, but not your fake voice. Here we go. Absolutely. Your needs in the Olympic athletes differ by degree, not kind.
Starting point is 01:00:08 Peace, power, strength, cardiovascular, respiratory endurance, flexibility, stamina, agility, balance, coordination. Are each important to the world's best athletes and to our grandparents. The amazing truth is that the very same methods that elicit optimal response in the Olympic or professional athlete will optimize the same response in the elderly. Of course, we can't load your grandmother with the same squatting weight that we'd assign an Olympic skier, but they both need to squat. In fact, squatting is essential to maintaining functional independence and improving fitness. Squatting is just one example of a movement that is universally valuable and essential. It rarely taught to any of the most advanced athletes. This is a tragedy.
Starting point is 01:00:55 Through painstakingly thorough coaching and incremental medicine, CrossFit has been able to teach anyone who can prepare for themselves to perform safely and with maximum efficacy. The same movements typically utilized by professional coaches and elite and certainly exclusive environments. Is CrossFit for me? Absolutely. Uh, cool, right? Yeah. Does that sound like me? Uh, it's weird. It sounds like, um, maybe if you had taken too much melatonin or something. The first time I heard it, I didn't hear you, but now I always hear you when I hear it.
Starting point is 01:01:34 I think we might have better AI. Allison NYC, that sounds nothing like him. Where did you... Do you remember where you were when you wrote that no but i wrote that but i do remember i remember the kind of the seminar version of that so that could be that could be might have gotten improved on um with use but it it was the line is that the needs of Olympic athletes and our grandparents differ by degree, not kind. One wants functional competence for functional dominance or functional capacity for competitive dominance and the other wants a functional exercise
Starting point is 01:02:25 for maintaining independence. Something like that. Did you own a car when you were taking all the money right i bought a car because um the cons were putting demands on me that I was going to spend more in rental than I was in ownership. And so I wasn't not driving a car because I didn't drive a car because riding a bike in Santa Cruz is a fucking blast. And you save a ton of money. It was fun to race the bus, right? You can get anywhere in town faster than the bus will get you there.
Starting point is 01:03:33 Did you have a gym when you wrote that? Had you already opened your first, what's the name of that court? Experimental Court? What was that? Engineer Court? Yeah. experimental court what was that engineer court yeah there was an 18 month period where the seminars the journal and my finally my own gym happened and it's all 2000 2001 and you think this was written around then so in that space a lot of the journal was written at the ugly mug yeah they have a ukrainian
Starting point is 01:04:10 flag there and a big black lives matter flag and a gay flag there no they got all the flags yeah santa cruz is always that that way they've run out of room for flags It's crazy Soldiers on the wall On a giant American flag What's that mean Soldiers on the wall People were deployed Were sending me pictures
Starting point is 01:04:39 Oh You mean at your first gym Yeah Dude all the gyms that's carried over to today you can walk into any crossfit gym now and it's full of that that culture you set that decor you set is like i see that i feel like i see that every affiliate i go into now every affiliate has every branch's flag up and an american flag next to it and then a lot of them even have like a palmia flag which is like prisoner of war missing in action flags a lot even more so some of them have a member who was killed in action and they have a
Starting point is 01:05:15 memorial for them that they like keep it nice and tidy and they have like a a plaque and a flag and all of their big old shadow box for them. When you, when you launched, when you launched the affiliate program and they had would have their websites in one of the requirements to be an affiliate is you had to have a link for the CrossFit journal. That was kind of the only requirement besides the website. And to this day, if you click on, if you go to any of the you know thousands and thousands tens of thousands of websites out there if you click on that journal link it takes you to the
Starting point is 01:05:51 very last thing that was published in the journal and it's like i think it's a killing the fat man season two or something and something else does any part of you think that like for me i think if i if i'm the owner of the company i'm thinking like that's one of my biggest untapped resources that link right there and yet the company you sold the company four years ago and they haven't used it you think i'm off there i don't i don't think they have uh I don't think they have any kind of gift for messaging. In fact, I don't think there's any messaging talent in the organization, really.
Starting point is 01:06:39 I don't see it. Define messaging for me? Like able to speak to the base or to the masses or to rally the troops or to to produce compelling. Gripping, sincere, valuable information. We have a cure for the world's most vexing problem. Blah, blah, blah. There's. Five buckets of death. It reminds me of what was warned about in the Cluetrain manifesto on talking of corporate speak.
Starting point is 01:07:16 Do you know how you can tell the difference between someone answering the phone and their message? How? Well, I'm just saying. You know you possess that skill you oh right right right yeah because it's always weird when you miss it's always weird when you get it wrong and there's people kramer john kramer has a pretty he can do a pretty good job of of like hello you know like it sounds like he he can he can do that pretty well yeah um and we can all watch a video of a...
Starting point is 01:07:49 If I show you a video, I can give you three seconds to tell me whether it's videotaped or it's actors. Right, right. No one's fooled with the difference between a documentary and a dramatization. It's abundantly clear to people that have normal cognitive capacity, right?
Starting point is 01:08:08 Yeah. It's the same on corporate speak. No one's living, breathing, feeling. There's nothing important here. There's nothing of value here. This is just, it might as well be, it's, it reminds me of the Andreessen comment of the, of the, you know, it's just got this fungible, you don't even know what the product is. The Cluetrain Manifesto, I think, does a great job of characterizing corporate speak. Look at the things that I like.
Starting point is 01:08:54 We got a vomiting clown. You cannot have a vomiting clown. Yeah, we got a puking clown. You can't do that. All right. Watch. You have to charge. You'll get you'll sell twice as many seminars if they're 999.95 and why because people don't know it's a thousand i go i don't want to try and educate those fucking
Starting point is 01:09:14 people if you don't know that 999.95 is a fucking thousand dollars you're gonna have a hard time with the material at the seminar oh hey and that's fascinating in the sense that like that's foresight into building a community like hey call the retards at the door you know like i i everyone like i would want to be treated i built a seminar that i wish i could have gone to right bad they didn't have this 20 years ago i'd be 20 years further down the road. All the shit that no one told you. Come learn it in the weekend. Pat Lang.
Starting point is 01:09:58 Greg, awesome having you on all the time. I hope you didn't buy any Truth Social stock. Yikes. No. No. No. There was a funny comment in here. Oh, Greg Glassman. My gym also has a Pepsi flag. Sure.
Starting point is 01:10:18 Justin V, when is Greg's non-compete officially up? I think this year. I think June. Bernie Gannon. Recently in New York City, a city councilwoman had the fire department remove American flags with the red line patriotic firefighter flag. Oh yeah, the cop
Starting point is 01:10:40 flag, right? They had them remove the... From the firehouse and its truck the councilwoman said it was fascist yeah that that was a trippy story really i think new york city also uh proudly uh celebrates their all-woman um fire department which has already gone to a few, I think, calls where they weren't able to do what needed to be done. That's rough. Imagine picking. Hey, I do think, though, a woman could have asked that physicist to leave your house better than the big tough guy.
Starting point is 01:11:22 I'm glad he didn't get chased off. What did you say? I'm glad he didn't get chased off. What'd you say? I'm glad he didn't get chased off. I know. I know. I'm just joking. You were so gracious. I walked by an hour later and he was at your dining room table and you were sitting down with him.
Starting point is 01:11:37 You're like, hey, I need some time to prepare. Everyone out. And the next thing I know, you're in the kitchen with the guy for three hours. He's a good dude. Quite a thinker. What's his field? Space geometry.
Starting point is 01:11:53 Is that what it was? I think so. Yeah. We just had his Wikipedia page up, but he's a James guy. You don't remember. I want to explain how I found Janes, too. I had read all of Stowe's stuff over and over and over again, including Hume's inductive skepticism and the rationality of induction. And boy, those are tough reads. That's a lot of work to get through that. But I came away convinced that probability theory is
Starting point is 01:12:38 where science found its grounding, that the logic of science could be found there. science found its grounding, that the logic of science could be found there. And I sat on that for a month or so until it just came to me in a flash that if this is true, then it would have to be the case that some mathematician somewhere has, from probability theories, found science. And I ordered all of the big selling wide use texts on probability theory. And one of them was by a fellow named E.T. James. And it was probability theory, the logic of science. I love the title because I think I think that's what I was looking for. And I picked it up. And sure enough, it was exactly as I had dreamed it would have to be.
Starting point is 01:13:22 If science does ground in probability theory, there has to be a mathematician that's seen that. And I was only wrong in that it was a physicist, not a mathematician, but a physicist who's made an immense contribution to applied mathematics and information theory. Chains is a tough read, but anyone could do it. It's just going to take a long time. And some say the first three chapters are the hardest part.
Starting point is 01:13:52 I think they're the most accessible, frankly. And the commentary is all delightful and wonderful. There's stuff in there that any thinker could grab. But the reviews, the Amazon reviews on the book are amazing. And many of those reviewing the book on Amazon are themselves amazing physicists, including one particular physicist at Duke that's possibly, I don't want to jinx anybody, but some amazing men and women on that review. And I think it's only got 132 reviews or something like that. When you say probability, could that be just interchanged every time you say that with a prediction, predictive value, prediction? interchanged every time you say that with a prediction, predictive value, prediction?
Starting point is 01:14:53 Yeah. We score your prediction on the outcome and it sits as a probability figure. I always liked the example because I had modest training in this application of probability theory. But when I worked at Hughes, I worked in a laboratory that was making target identification software devices as part of a Phoenix missile system. And it was interesting that the idea that probability inheres in our information or in our head rather than in an object is really clear to people working in this field um and it's not it's not basically clear to to the layman and even to many scientists
Starting point is 01:15:36 but you would get something like you don't know if this is a flock of seagulls or if it's a uh incoming aircraft and then there's a point where yeah it's it's there's a 90 chance it's aircraft and then there's a uh you know 60 chance it's uh it's a little cluster of migs and and then it's some distance that becomes a 95 chance but no one's thinking that it was birds and then became an airplane and then later a mig this what the data was what the probability was was it was based on the on the information that was available thank you as opposed to it ining in the object, people think that the, that, in fact, when we give a probability problem, we'll start off like assuming a fair coin or on a fair dice or fair die. And in that single word fair,
Starting point is 01:16:45 what you're saying is that you're going to demand, you're putting on the physical requirement that it come up one in six. You're saying that that is the limit. You're giving it a mathematical depiction of a physical reality. But the truth is that the physics of it are solid. This is on the subject that both Briggs and Jaynes talk about coin flipping machines. And Briggs made one at Cornell. And I think it was, what, 80% heads?
Starting point is 01:17:24 You know, you could pick how it came out. And Briggs made one at Cornell. And I think it was, what, 80% heads? You know, you could pick how it came out. I'm kind of rambling here, but look at the NFL. No, no, this is so important that people get this. Look at the NFL regulations for flipping a coin. It's really interesting. Oh, shit. Is this... Are there coin-flipping machines that can flip a coin perfectly?
Starting point is 01:17:51 The same? Damn near. This is Briggs' coin-flipping machine. They get it just right. Head. Oh, that's Briggs'. Wow. Good job, Caleb. Head.
Starting point is 01:18:14 Head. He calls it even before it lands. Head. Head. Head. Oh, there's a tail. I went down too far. If you go just far enough on this.
Starting point is 01:18:33 Hey, so Greg, explain to me the implication there, where the thinking is wrong. The 50-50 of it is the no information position. And as a mathematician, it's a great trick on the net. It's slightly specious, but the point's still powerful. And so she's got the coin and she's like, so what are the odds? What's it going to be? And you go, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:19:05 It's 50-50. She goes, all right. No, get you. And then does one of these. And goes, what do you think? What are my odds? And he goes, well, you've looked at it. She says, that's correct.
Starting point is 01:19:16 So what is it? Is it 50-50? He's like, no, it's going to be 100%. And I'm like, well, it's the same fucking quarter. You're saying that the number changed because of my knowledge? I thought the 50-50 was in the quarter. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 01:19:33 It's what we assign to a zero information state. It's kind of like standing in the, like, you know, if you're the blind goalie, where do you stand? Can you point me to the middle? I'm going to stand in the middle and put my arms out wide and legs, right? Yeah, yeah. What's crazy is even that information isn't enough to convince most people. E.T. James has written brilliantly on this.
Starting point is 01:20:07 I'll prepare it for next time. But on the consequences of not understanding where probability inheres. Laplace did his best to communicate his method. What does that mean in hairs? Yeah, it lives in our minds. It's a representation of our state of knowledge.
Starting point is 01:20:32 But Laplace said that he used probability theory to repair defects in his knowledge, which is just a fucking brilliant thing. He also says that it's nothing different than the calculus, and the word might have been translated better as a calculations, common sense turned to calculation. But he was acutely aware of that. And mathematicians, some, and some people in the philosophy of science and took Laplace to mean, I think, that validation of his method was found in this probability theory, and it wasn't. What he was doing was he was testing hunches to make physical predictions match where they should be. And so the Newtonian mechanics had objects not lining up quite like they ought to. And so he postulated some things that could cause this to be off and then and then played with those numbers until you got good matches. And it was in this manner that Phil found out that the Earth was oblong by some 1% or something. And on that assumption, these planets were on the X on time. crazy contributions to celestial physics and mechanics and mathematics through that methodology.
Starting point is 01:22:20 And when you realize that validation and method are entirely independent, what's important about Laplace's method, it was the insights it led him to. But the validation comes solely through the predictive strength of his models. And he was somewhat unprecedented in that regard. The method by which he came to those was to repair the defects in his knowledge using probability theory. repair the defects in his knowledge using probability theory jeffries did the same thing in the geophysics space and was knighted as a contemporary of carl paupers ironically what was jeffrey's first name you know sir harold jeffries an extraordinarily important thinker he's a kind of a, you know, one of the greatest of geophysicists for sure, but his contributions to probability theory and what he kept alive that
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Starting point is 01:24:40 P, therefore Q, and then we're taught about reasoning from the converse. You can't say, if Q, then P, given if P, then Q, right? You can't have a premise of Q and say, therefore P. You can't take that thing upstream. But what we should say to kids in then and there is that if p then q q we can't conclude p but it does make p more plausible it does make it more plausible and discussions of plausibility and what cox did we were talking about cox certainly is he took polya's plausibility and was actually able to put it to a number line, to put it to a value between zero and one, and through a handful of desiderata, they're called, requirements of consistency and not willing to violate common sense,
Starting point is 01:25:42 he from that generated all of the frequentist statistics and in fact you could you could produce deductive logic from it and this is and this is you know garrett says that cox theorem is the most important thing that's been done in computing or information theory physics in the past hundred years. And again, I would go to the fruit produced through these methods is about all the evidence you'd need. Are you holding a piece of chalk? No, I've got an eraser. Oh,
Starting point is 01:26:19 it's all the way back to gymnastics. You don't say keep your hands off shit when you're chalky. Yeah, yeah. Gymnasts stand at ease with the back of their hand on their hip. Somewhat a gay posture. Do you know what I'm talking about? Yep, yep. You learn not to put the face of your hand on your pants.
Starting point is 01:26:42 Certainly have a big old handprint on your ass. Fuck, dude. You get some out-of-uniform shit. Now you see a bunch of cops appropriating it. That pose? Yeah. I do it too. Whenever I'm lifting, I just put my hands up.
Starting point is 01:27:00 Allison NYC, I took the subway for the first time in a few years yesterday. I was buying my MetroCard for fare to get in. I saw about a dozen other illegals enter. I'm the only one who paid. Yeah, I heard no one's paying. Crazy.
Starting point is 01:27:16 Sebi, can you ask Heidi if I'm allowed to follow her on IG? You can, of that authority. IG's for ogling people. Ogle whoever you want. If you're posting pictures, I mean, get ogled. Yeah, I mean, isn't there, is there, is it a fair assumption that with a low enough cut top, there's not a problem with looking at him yes
Starting point is 01:27:47 you see that conan o'brien or is it conan conan o'brien clip yeah him and that him and that woman yeah wearing like the lowest cut shirt possible and her was she was she joking i think so okay she was kind of just giving him shit for it but But Conan, like, obviously, they're head to head. And he just does one of these. She's like, eyes up here. Yeah, that's pretty good. He just, like, what do you want me to do? They're just there.
Starting point is 01:28:15 It's basically porn now on Instagram. It's like, there's everything now. It's wild. It's, it's. Are we going to war? Oh, I was going to bring, bring i was gonna bring that article up did you see this um oh i saw that too but how about this russia intelligence says france preparing to deploy 2 000 troops to the ukraine oh boy and uh um caleb you were you in the army
Starting point is 01:28:44 caleb i was in the air force i still oh that's right have you gotten any notices about preparation no you're not doing shit i work for the state now so there there is um there's all i did see that other thing let me see if i can find it uh did you send me that greg yeah i think I sent you a couple of things. And I don't want to – I got to be careful. We're not going to use names here because I don't want to get someone dropped into Kiev. But we have people close to us that are getting called up. Yeah, it says – the article here says uh us aren't uh
Starting point is 01:29:26 i don't know what this is caleb you should look at this before we pull this up on the screen to make sure which one is it the first one i'm going to send you a link here i'm going to send you a link in the text prevailing view is if biden needs a war if he's has any chance at all for election a u.s army publishes al al iraract for utilization of the army retiree recall program oh yeah i did i've been hearing about this too on mark 20th the u.s armistice publishing a directorate published uh al-karak the title of the form is the utilization of the army retiree recall program and it cites executive Order 13223 under reference. Executive Order 13223 is a Bush-era executive order from September 14, 2001, titled Ordering the Ready Reserve of the Armed Forces to Active Duty and Delegating Certain Authorities to the Secretary of Defense and the Secretary of Transportation.
Starting point is 01:30:21 I don't get exactly what's going on here. So basically anybody who's been retired that's how i read it yeah anybody who's been discharged or yeah who retired or uh got discharged because they terminated their contract or they got to the end of their contract kind of thing they're allowed to offer i don't know if they can if it's an offer to bring them back or if they'll just say hey you're you're going to be in the reserves now no well some guy was saying he was told by the on the checkout make sure you save your uniform and now they're telling them like really yeah yeah oh shit yeah no no there's like they're back in we've got i know people i know
Starting point is 01:31:04 people in and I know people retiring because we're going to go to war and they don't want to go. Yeah, and I'm sure they're going to have problems getting retired too because they're like, hey, we don't have enough people. We don't have any mid-level officers.
Starting point is 01:31:18 We don't have any mid-level enlisted people. We need to keep everybody that we can. You're talking about the guy that processes the retirees he quit weird you have to stay in he'll be back right right uh brady uh you can tell we are on the verge of war because the army stopped making commercials about lesbians and started making ads about badasses again i went to the movies the other day and there were like army recruiting commercials and air.
Starting point is 01:31:49 And I see them on TV with the, the air force recruiting commercials now too. And they're like get into special warfare or whatever. And it's, it's crazy. It's a new, a new light for them. I heard,
Starting point is 01:32:02 um, I heard some company, I heard Microsoft got rid of the uh e and dei really yeah what is it now i just i guess it's just di just di microsoft uh do you undo it slowly yeah oh yeah yeah yeah here it is microsoft diversity and inclusion report yeah they've dropped the e they just didn't say anything about it now they just they just changed the website good for them wow god can you imagine having a dei department at your job holy shit dude yikes uh Zach my buddy is a uh retired
Starting point is 01:32:47 combat controller he may be getting pulled back oh for sure dude if you're a combat controller you are and you've been out for less than five years you're fucked what's a combat controller do it's another uh like special warfare job they're like air traffic controllers that like
Starting point is 01:33:03 landing scripts yeah exactly they're like air traffic controllers that like landing scripts yeah exactly they're a pretty big deal that's what joey uh uh in prescott was lauren's friend oh oh oh really yeah hi i hadn't been i hadn't been been to Joey's gym or seen him in four or five years, and I swung by one day, and I walked in, and he was in the middle of this murder fantasy of talking about Lauren, my ex. Oh, gee. What?
Starting point is 01:33:38 I was like, wow. Holy shit. Wow. To his members. So the guy stands there and talks about murdering lauren to his members is like just normal course of things i can tell by the looks on their faces they weren't no one was aghast and horror they've heard it all over and over again uh graciano rubio bsi flag uh now flying in my barn um exercise dorks can suck it. Dildo, can we get
Starting point is 01:34:06 BSI underwear made so I can fly the BSI flag from my barn doors too? My barn doors. Oh yeah, there it is. Shit. Nice. Wow. That's a sick flag. Equity is the only one they actually meant what they were saying hey what happened to captain crossfit is it still around yeah i think it is oh i think it is
Starting point is 01:34:42 all right another great great Wednesday show. Thank you. I declare it a great show. Did you get your violins? Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to send you some too when you get on that program. Are they within arm's reach of you right now? Yes.
Starting point is 01:35:03 Did we see one? Oh, shit. Here we go. He got his kid's carbon fiber violins. Oh, no. He's not. I thought that's where we were headed. But I went to the fiddle shop at the recommendations from our teacher,
Starting point is 01:35:18 and there was a wooden beginner's violin that she pushed for. So you didn't get those online. You walked in and got them. No, I got them from their store. Oh, look at here. I think this is a 4-4. This is a full. So two of my kids are going to be.
Starting point is 01:35:37 Damn, dude. Holy shit. That is a beautiful violin. I used to play one of those as a little kid. It looked just like that. $239 bucks i think and i got an upgrade on the strings and the bow wow and we got our suzuki books i didn't know you could get a violin for that much i got i got i got the four violins cases uh electronic tuner deal, upgraded strings, upgraded bows, and I think it was
Starting point is 01:36:08 $1,200 for the four kids. Is that a violin or a fiddle? It's a violin. They're the same thing. They are the same thing? It's held differently. Oh. So we got
Starting point is 01:36:23 a half of three quarters and two fulls. And what's the length? Yeah, what's the difference? Yeah. You want to see the little one? Yeah. Who's playing? Reason's going to play one?
Starting point is 01:36:36 Yeah. That's wild. Here we go. Here's the halfie. Here's the happy. Yeah, the lady. So we got this woman. She's a PhD musicology. Went from Southern Methodist University to Dr. Janice to ASU.
Starting point is 01:36:59 And her things are voice, viola, and piano. And here's the guitar. Her things are voice, viola, and piano. Here's the guitar. Violin. David Weed says violins are kind of gay. Everyone needs a little bit of gay in their life. Hey, listen.
Starting point is 01:37:19 You don't want to do any... In the sense of wiping your feet when you come into the house and chewing with your mouth closed. Yeah, those are gay too. Putting the toilet seat down. Right, right. Yeah, not peeing on the floor.
Starting point is 01:37:35 I agree. Those are all gay things. I'm gay as fuck. Joe Westland, they're being sneaky when they say diversity. Sneak when they say inclusion. But when they say equity, it's exactly what they they mean they dropped the e because it was too obvious still sneaky with the dni sneaky sneaky all right i'm gonna go uh see if my kids are chewing with their mouth closed do it i wish you were here we'd go to oscars. Yeah, me too. Hey, are you... For tacos.
Starting point is 01:38:05 Are you going to... You have like seven or eight days before you take off again. Any chance you're coming here in that time or no? Yeah, I totally want to. Okay, well, I'm here. My new truck, the AEV on the 3500 high output Cummings motor. Yeah. That's my favorite truck. truck so listen tomorrow it's supposed to rain here tomorrow it's supposed to rain here and then it's like seven days of just sun 70
Starting point is 01:38:32 degrees i'll come out yeah bring bring bring uh bring your boy bring some kids bring something bring your hot wife rent and riley yeah. Yeah. I have a meeting with my builder tomorrow morning, breakfast meeting. And I think we'll probably come on Friday. When do you go to Bora Bora Bora? On the 14th, is it? Oh, okay. Yeah, you have plenty of time. I would love it if you came.
Starting point is 01:39:07 Please come. Yeah, let me see what I can do. And you're going to come in your new truck? Yeah. Oh, good. All right. Fine. All right.
Starting point is 01:39:16 I'll see you at Swampers on Friday. All right. Good to see you, Greg. Good to see you, kid. Ciao. Congrats on the fire department thing, too. I like that. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:39:24 I appreciate that. I don appreciate that i don't i don't it's a great living yeah i got one thing i gotta leave my my sister's uh husband daryl he hates firemen oh why because of how much money they made he worked for the city too and he said he worked twice as hard made half as much and uh so he's he's always he's always got some gripe about firemen well they were sitting at their house and they saw a fire um across the way on the hill and it wasn't far from the fire department so he personally called the fire department. Kathy says, he says, hey, guys, I hope I didn't bother your checkers. They're like, no, dude, we're playing
Starting point is 01:40:12 volleyball. He goes, oh. I was like, it's fucking amazing. He's just looking at Kathy like, but they're sensitive to people like him. That's right. It's like, man, we got it good. We know we got it good.
Starting point is 01:40:27 Yeah, the hill's on fire behind you. We'll get to it. Don't worry. Isn't that great? Turn on the hose and blow out the windows in his house. Yeah, they know that there's people that think they don't work hard enough. But I think it's a great thing to do and be there for that. I knew firemen in Santa Clarita
Starting point is 01:40:47 that got rich off of a car dealership. Oh, really? Yeah, they just took turns managing the car dealership. And they would sell 100 Ford Tauruses some weekends. Wow. That's amazing. Yeah, they were raking in bucks. I remember the Tauruses. Bye, everyone. Love y'all. Okay, product. Yeah, they were, they were raking in bucks. I remember that.
Starting point is 01:41:06 Love y'all. Okay. Bye. Later, Greg. All right. Another show where 60% of it was over my head. I kind of picked up on the probability thing when he started talking about
Starting point is 01:41:23 missiles and aircraft. That's when I, that's when I started to get up on the probability thing when he started talking about missiles and aircraft. That's when I, that's when I started to get smart on it. Oh, I'm trying to see, uh, what's going on with, uh,
Starting point is 01:41:33 so what happened? Uh, uh, Pat thought that Heidi was hot and someone else said that like, you're not allowed to. Well, yeah, he,
Starting point is 01:41:41 he said, oh, I just looked at Heidi's Instagram. I didn't know. And everybody's like, didn't know what. And then he said something like that. Oh, come on. Smoke show.
Starting point is 01:41:52 Oh, he did say smoke show. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, well, duh. I like this. The still frame for the five by five back squat. It's just the rounding of her butt. Oh, my God. heidi what is this look at she that's not even your you don't even have a hook you don't even have a hook nose how did you get this is this supposed to be you
Starting point is 01:42:17 dang yeah caricature people always fuck people up so bad, though. That's cultural appropriation. Having a hooked nose. Yeah, look how perfect her nose is. You wish she was a Jew. Look it, that's Pat right there, groping Heidi. You can't see his left hand, so you don't even know where it's at oh my god he's just he's just now going through all the chicks in the chat allison is a babe too yep hey it's smart that's good though you should you that's good take your
Starting point is 01:43:00 time yeah only only only creep on one chick a month that's what i do enjoy that yeah spread that shit out um oh oh brother in Christ have fun oh oh JR shit
Starting point is 01:43:38 JR needs to send born primitive his address I like the shows where I get to work on other shit while the show is going everyone knows that tonight's show got moved to the 10th right yeah had to shift it the burpee the burpee race
Starting point is 01:43:59 yeah yeah and we need Tim Murray the fittest man in the world to beat Colton and Jake Berman after they do it right we're giving them all the advantages yeah I don't know when
Starting point is 01:44:16 the scored interviews are I think it's at the end of April for me JR can you post your mailing address in this thread? Jim or home. Somebody asked a while back if the test that my wife took is the same as the one that i took yesterday and it's the exact same there's no differences and my wife beat me by a minute same like weights and distance running they don't got a they don't got a beaver one for just beaver same same test in its entirety
Starting point is 01:44:59 and she beat me by a minute smoked me i i don. I don't say this to defend CrossFit, but a lot of the things that Greg was talking about, about CrossFit in the early days, that's something that only a startup can have. And then on top of that, I was thinking about this the other day. If you don't have people... Greg was hungry.
Starting point is 01:45:31 Yeah. You got a bunch of wealthy fucking people working at your company and shit's not going to get done i mean yeah i know that's not fucking absolute that's not like some definitive rule like if i drop this thing it's gonna fall but all all the the the wealthier the people were who the people who didn't have kids and had money that's like the that's like the worst that's the worst combination right you want people you want like he was fucking it was his idea and he was hungry as shit and he had a chip on his shoulder that he wanted to fucking let the world know and you get in and he's smart as fuck. And he doesn't sleep. He was supercharged. You get someone, you get some CEO of a company who doesn't need to work
Starting point is 01:46:12 for a living. We had a guy, we had an executive at our company who didn't need to work. And that was the weakest wing of the company. I was fucking living in a motor home. Media department was the strongest department in the company. I was fucking living in a motor home. Media department was the strongest department in the company.
Starting point is 01:46:30 And then on top of the fact you get the training department where everyone just can't even believe they're trainers and so they work their ass off too, right? Everyone's like, holy fuck, I can't believe I have this job. Do you think Greg took less money than he probably should have to maintain that mentality for himself or do you
Starting point is 01:46:46 think he was just he just wanted to give back more money to the to the company to the affiliates i don't know i don't really have an opinion on it i i would say this here's what i think he should have done and i told him this back in 2009 or 10 and and i got a lot of pushback from him and brian i thought that um he should have bought rx bar and wadify and spotify and momify and i i thought we should have been investing in all the small businesses in the ecosystem and buying them sugar wad beyond the whiteboard just anything uh and i also thought that he should be he should have bought um a home or three homes every year like he should have bought a home or three homes every year. Like he should have just been leveraging his money to buy property all around the country.
Starting point is 01:47:30 Those are things like I was always proposing. And I would get fucking – I would get destroyed. But I would still bring it up, but I would get destroyed by people. That basically I would be called a uh i'd be stereotyped which i enjoyed sure i never reported to the hr department not once huh hey at the end of the day uh the guy did good for himself you know it's like yeah of course. But it really is kind of like my buddy had this chick and she always wanted to get
Starting point is 01:48:10 plowed in the ass and he never did. And when she dumped him, he wishes he would have. And, you know, like he's gone now and he's like, fuck, I probably should have taken another hundred million out of the company. Yeah, that makes sense. I'm calling J.R. That makes sense. I'm calling J.R.
Starting point is 01:48:27 Oh, okay. I think he is a very busy man right now. Is his wife pregnant or something? No, I think he went down to Disney World or something. Oh. Oh.
Starting point is 01:48:41 It's weird how sometimes the phone doesn't work. Yeah, I could hear you dialing, but I couldn't hear his voicemail or ring. Yeah, that sucks. Ooh. Matt Schindeldecker. There's no question things will continue to change. Cost will increase to affiliates based on the legacy affiliate call that we were invited to Friday.
Starting point is 01:49:08 Oh, you were on that call? Has Matt's gym been around 15 years? How long did you? So what Matt's referring to is I think that there were like 60 gyms. I'm only here. I don't have high fidelity information on this. I don't have high fidelity information on this, but I guess there was a meeting. I'm guessing it was Don, Dave, Nicole, DeCoon's, whoever works over there at the higher ups.
Starting point is 01:49:42 And they met with 15-year affiliates. They did a giant Zoom call. You said? And I guess that's the call that Greg was referencing I guess that's the call now I'm piecing it together I guess that's the call that Greg was referencing where
Starting point is 01:49:59 Nicole said at least you're not having to pay Greg's lifestyle man dude i'm telling you the guy uh one of the he was being one of the things he said about messaging i mean that's all i mean still to this day that's what he does for uh bsi he really is like hemingway tupac and einstein wrapped in one he's it's a really remarkable brain i mean i know everyone sees it who listens to him talk and if you if you we have i maybe only once or twice we've seen him get really loose on this show but when he gets really loose the words will start just pouring out it's fucking amazing yeah it's and it's hilarious
Starting point is 01:50:39 uh and so and so he so he knew obviously the the content for crossfit and signed it out better than anyone else and so that's what he just kept doing just kept in his head he's just playing with the messaging over and over and over and over and that's what we got today it would be it would wouldn't it be crazy if uh it would be it would wouldn't it be crazy if uh it's it's wild i probably rosa had no idea i'm i don't know if don knows either but just imagine taking the helm from him you're fucked you're fucked you have no chance of doing any better than yeah it's like, uh, I know people are going to think this is blasphemous,
Starting point is 01:51:27 but it would be like, um, uh, taking the helm from like Jesus. Like Greg is the CrossFit Jesus. There won't, there will not be another one. It's just not,
Starting point is 01:51:35 it's, it's, it's really is like that. I don't mean it to be blasphemous, but, um, I mean, you see what's happening now that people who have taken over,
Starting point is 01:51:43 they're losing sight of what was being built. Well, yeah, but it's not even their fault. They're ill-equipped, right? Right, right. I mean, you're taking the helm from, like, Einstein. Yes, I was thinking that, too. It would be like putting me in charge. Literally, it would be like putting me in charge of the physics department at UC Berkeley.
Starting point is 01:52:02 Yeah. You're a DEI hire because you're Armenian.ian yeah and five five and short for a man right exactly i wonder if you uh um dei short people i wonder if we get any um does oh look at this diversity include height although the term is often used to refer to differences based on race ethnicity gender age religion disability national origin of sexual orientation Diversity encompasses an infinite range of individuals unique characteristics and experiences including communication styles physical characteristics such as Fuck. Oh who falls under dei fuck. Oh You're a dei veteran. Veteran status.
Starting point is 01:52:45 Wow, really? Yeah. I know I get extra points with the fire department in the hiring process. It was funny. Somebody was talking about how it's kind of bullshit that veterans get extra points to get onto certain fire departments or law enforcement and shit like that. I don't think so. You don't think it's bullshit like that. I don't think so. You don't think it's bullshit? No, I don't think it's bullshit.
Starting point is 01:53:10 In my mind, I'm like, fuck, I don't care. But then, now I think about all the shit that I had to put up with for the past five years, and like the things that I guess learned or whatever, and I'm like, yeah, I guess I probably deserve that. Yeah, I don't think it's bullshit at all. Hello, caller?
Starting point is 01:53:30 Hey, what's up? Hey, phone's working hey good morning you're welcome but i know we always talk about like having stuff affect you and you shouldn't let stuff bother you it's your fault that bothers you but something really really is bothering me that i just heard today please you know how we had this you know how we had this total eclipse coming yeah yeah only for the middle of the country though california we're we don't we're not we're not doing it yeah so like new york is kind of like on the path if you go like upstate new york right like your buffalo which is far from where I am. But can you believe that the school districts in my area, they're looking to close schools because their kids will leave school and look at the sun and burn their eyes out.
Starting point is 01:54:19 Now, I'm not kidding. There are meetings going on right now talking about the total eclipse of the sun and if they should cancel classes today. Let me ask you this really quick. Why – so is there any difference in looking at a solar eclipse versus just looking directly at the sun? Isn't looking at a solar eclipse less – if the sun's bad to look at, wouldn't an eclipse be a better time to look at it? Like why aren't you supposed to look at wouldn't an eclipse be a better time to look at it like why aren't you supposed to look at a solar eclipse is it for any other reason besides the fact that you're just told not to look at the sun i think you can look at solar eclipse but not a lunar eclipse
Starting point is 01:54:55 who gives a fuck ronnie teasdale fucking stares at the sun all the time he even lets his butthole stare at the sun whenever he wants. Yeah. Hey, Jethro, why are they – first of all, I absolve you from feeling bad or upset about it, so you're free from that. There you go. Thank you very much. Yep, no problem. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:55:15 And why are they declaring state of emergency in some places where this is happening? I was trying to figure that out. I have no idea. Like, I have a lot of teachers that take a morning class, and they're all talking, and they're in meetings to discuss what's the best protocol. Should it be a half day? Should it be a full day off? Should we cancel? No, everyone should go outside with their astronomy books and listen and get lectured on what's happening.
Starting point is 01:55:43 And every school should have a debate between flat Earth and round Earth. I want to say the state of emergency was because they're thinking a lot of people are going to flock to those regions where it's going to be a total eclipse or some shit. Even my wife wanted to go
Starting point is 01:56:01 upstate where they go every summer to go see it. I'm like, the traffic to come back down to New York's... Everyone's going to go upstate. They're going to be there until about 4 o'clock in the afternoon. And they're all going to come back down. But it would take like a three-hour drive. And it'd take like seven hours.
Starting point is 01:56:21 It's so stupid. I can't believe it. I want to... I wish... I mean i if it was here i would be i would definitely try to like make a note and go outside and see it um i think it's it's cool right um and i think it it's uh i think for people who get to see it it's fun i think hey these are the things i truly think this jet throw i think these are the things like although nuanced are really powerful to a human being it's basically the moon's passing between the earth and the sun that's what's happening and it's blocking out the sun yeah yeah that's fucking cool as shit look at jeffrey birchville we're doing a lesson on it and we're going to
Starting point is 01:57:00 football fields to observe it here in fuckville yeah exactly but they're not canceling school because of it that's smart if you cancel school then it loses the importance and nobody cares about it it should be father sunday and only kids that have dads get to
Starting point is 01:57:20 go out and look at it that's a great idea hey because we are those kids are a minority to go out and look at it. That's a great idea. Hey, because we are, we are, those kids are a minority. Hey, what if you got hired for DEI because you had a dad? Oh my God, you have a dad?
Starting point is 01:57:38 Oh my God, I just passed a sign. Guys, I just passed a sign. I'm driving back home. It said, Lunar Eclipse Monday. Use Mass Transit. Oh, please. I'm not kidding.
Starting point is 01:57:52 We have to use Mass Transit that day. Oh, my God. Stay home, make a sandwich, and look out the window. Good luck sitting in the subway. Oh, you're good. All right. Well, if anyone has a chance to see it, feel free to look up directly at it just for a second or two. It's fine.
Starting point is 01:58:14 I don't think you have to do that thing where you poke a hole in a bag or whatever that shit is. I think that's probably just bullshit. I remember those days. We had to cover our books with the brown paper bags. Yeah. And then I just wrote girls names on it. Why is it bad to look at eclipse? Let me hold on one second. Let me let me get to the bottom of this. If it's just because it's this exposing your eyes to the sun without proper eye protection during a solar eclipse can cause eclipse blindness or retinal burns, also known as solar retina retinopathy this exposure to the light can cause damage or even destroy cells in the retina the
Starting point is 01:58:50 back of the eye that transmits what you've seen but why solar eclipse versus just looking at the Sun why is it unsafe to look at solar eclipse versus... Yeah, I don't get what the difference is. Pat says if you go blind from your eyes, you're huge pussies. It's all dumb. Everything's dumb. People who are in charge, they don't do CrossFit. You get a little tougher. Oh, here's an article.
Starting point is 01:59:29 If you look directly at a solar eclipse, you will be rich. Guaranteed. Wow. That's what the government doesn't want you to know. Oh, great. The case of the Staten Island woman who watched the eclipse through faulty glasses was notable enough to be chronicled by doctors from Mount Sinai's New York Eye and Ear
Starting point is 01:59:54 Infirmary it's a very focused beam of high energy light from the sun itself oh so it's more focused that doesn't make sense science itself oh so it's more focused but that doesn't make sense science she believed she was wearing protective glasses but she wasn't looking looking up when you're within the 115 mile wide path when the moon completely covers the sun for a few minutes is safe experts say but directly staring at the sun before and after the
Starting point is 02:00:24 total eclipse or watching partial eclipse outside of the path oh so you can look at it except for right before and right after when it's just seeping over the edges that's the best time to look at it well rare eye damage from watching a partial eclipse happens because a person's natural response to squint when looking at the sunlight does not get triggered. In the lead up to the April 8th, solar eclipse doctors and a rare set of eclipse watchers are warning about. Okay, so it's really rare and it sounds like it's not any different than looking directly at the sun, but it's just the fact that you won't be squinting. Jesus Christ, just say that for fuck's sake. Hey, be careful.
Starting point is 02:01:02 It's like we were talking about with the recipes. The high energy rays cast down during the time. During the time, they're always being cast down. Are akin to laser pinpoint on the eye. Yeah, like I don't get it. I'm not getting it. A very safe way to watch is to turn your back to the eclipse and watch its shadows using a pinhole. How about fuck no?
Starting point is 02:01:30 Turn your back to it. Childhood friends of Lou Tomosky and Roger Duvall, both 77, have told cautionary tales for years about the day in the early 1960s when each of them burned an eye squinting up at a partial eclipse. The two men, teenagers at the time, watched without protection from a baseball diamond at their high school in Portland, Oregon. After looking at the eclipse for about 20 seconds, they developed a grayish spot in the middle of his right eye. While Duvall now has a similar dark spot in his left eye, Duvall said he visited a doctor the day after the clips when he noticed his vision loss. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:02:18 Are you going to look at it, Jethro? Oh, is he gone? Oh. I didn't even hear him hang up bye jethro i'm gonna look at it i think our air raid uh sirens are going off is that a test or it's probably real oh yeah because that's where they detect attack Nebraska. Yep. Dead center. Oh, shit. J.K. Lance. It's not the sun that they don't want you to see.
Starting point is 02:02:51 It's the one time you'll see the flat earth phenomenon. Wow. Wow. Wow. Okay. Oh. He gave us a kiss goodbye mwah oh sorry I missed it
Starting point is 02:03:11 I guess Jedediah Snelson is going on Pedro's show today yeah at 12 Pacific Standard Time for the around the whiteboard. Hey, did you see the video Hiller made two days ago? Was it about Sporty Beth?
Starting point is 02:03:35 Or was it yesterday? No, not the Sporty Beth one. This one. No, it is yesterday. Holy shit, dude. This is a crazy video. I do not know how. I guess I get it why this video No, it is yesterday. Holy shit, dude. This is a crazy video. I do not know how. I guess I get it why this video only has 12,000 views, but oh my God. This one?
Starting point is 02:03:55 Yes. Biggest issue with CrossFit? Yes. Yes. You got. Let's look at the comments. So basically, basically someone critiqued Hillary being like hey you shouldn't be um judging people who aren't high level competitors with no reps and he fucking goes off and it's amazing look at and look at all these people supporting him dude Dude, it's crazy. It's such a good video.
Starting point is 02:04:28 It's like the best message. This is his best video ever, guys. This is his best video ever. Basically, at one point, the premise is if someone comes in and they're 80 years old and they can't squat below parallel, that's fine. You tell them good job, good job, good job. But you also tell them, hey, you say good effort, good effort, good effort. But you don't tell them good job until they're 90, 10 years later when they first get their first squat to full depth.
Starting point is 02:04:58 And you don't argue your limitations for your clients and you keep working on it with them. Because the point is to squat below parallel and that when the open comes that's when you not only because that's not just going to your affiliate just to work out when the when the open comes it's a uh there's there's actually standards and at that point everyone has to also have their standards tested it's like what he said to um hip and steel. He said, Hey dude, great job on the fucking muscle ups,
Starting point is 02:05:27 but, but you can't enter the open if you can't lock out your fucking elbow. Right? No one's questioning your, uh, your, uh, capacity.
Starting point is 02:05:37 Yeah. Yeah. Your cat capacity or your engine or your strength. But look, now we're in the competition phase and there's, um, their standards. It's, it we're in the competition phase and there's, um, there's standards. It's,
Starting point is 02:05:47 it's fucking awesome. We shouldn't feel bad for you just because you're the old guy, you know, like there are people who are your age who are doing the exact same thing, holding the standard. Yeah. This video is incredible. And, and basically that's one of the things you want to be able to do as a trainer.
Starting point is 02:06:08 You want to be able to tell your 80-year-old client, hey, here you are when you're 80 and here when you're 90. And look it, you've increased your range of motion. You can now squat below parallel at 90. It's not about whether it's a rep or no rep. It's about your functional ability. You can squat to depth. You can do a push-up to depth.
Starting point is 02:06:29 You can wipe your own boat. You can wipe your own ass. You can pick up your kid. Are we done with the boat? Is the boat thing over? I watched a bunch of conspiracy shit about the boat, and it took me five minutes to prove it all wrong it was crazy somebody said that the they're still crew members on board
Starting point is 02:06:51 oh oh i believe it you mean who just haven't got off the boat yeah i guess no i'm telling you the hayley adams was not the best video ever it was not i'm telling you, the Haley Adams was not the best video ever. It was not. I'm telling you. You got to watch that video, his most recent video. It's crazy. What's the name of it? Biggest problem with CrossFit. Biggest issue with CrossFit, parentheses, currently. I mean, it'll explain so much to you.
Starting point is 02:07:19 Yeah. Okay, here we go. I'm on the navigation bridge, and I'm standing in front of the helm here, which is where we steer the ship. There are two steering gears. We have a number one steering gear and number two steering gear. These will alternate every day. Even days, we try to run the number two pump, and odd days, we run the number one pump. So you can see today's the 16th. That's an even day.
Starting point is 02:07:45 So we have the number two pump running. Whenever we're coming in and out of port, we always have the number one pump on though, cause that's attached to the emergency bus. So if we lost power, the emergency diesel generator would turn on and would still give us power to our steering. Coming in and out of port,
Starting point is 02:08:01 we always have the number one pump on though, cause that's attached to the emergency bus. So we lost power so if we lost power so if we lost power so if we lost power the emergency diesel generator would turn on and it would still give us power to our steering still give us power and then this guy responds in the comments which is a great response uh they had a backup power that was delayed. The black smoke was from the generators. That makes sense. Right. Remember that black smoke we saw come out right before it hits.
Starting point is 02:08:29 Sure. Um, the black smoke was from the generators when the ship went into reverse, but it was too close to actually slow down and reverse. And they had steering partially, which is why the ship made a hard turn before it hit. Yeah. I heard they tried to throw it in reverse and then that's why it like
Starting point is 02:08:43 canted off into the bridge like that. Well, moral of the story is I guess one of the conspiracy theories I read was that the owner of that shipping company died six days before. It was an Asian woman died six days before that accident before the boat ran into the bridge. But what it said happened is her Tesla went in reverse by itself and she drove into a lake. I'm like, listen, there's nothing odd about an Asian woman accidentally driving in reverse into a lake. Like, come on, man. Oh, shit. And then I looked further and she wasn't even the CEO of the boat company.
Starting point is 02:09:31 As an avid conspiracy content appreciator, conspiracy content has been flooded with absolute junk here lately. And if it's being pumped in. Yeah, I agree. I just recently started using Twitter just like in the explore page,
Starting point is 02:09:47 just scrolling through it. And I don't know if it's just because of the few posts that I've clicked on, but it is just nonsense conspiracy theories. Just ad nauseum. There was one video of Angela Merkel like standing next to the Ukrainian president or some Ukrainian person and she was just
Starting point is 02:10:07 shaking uncontrollably. And I was like, and everybody was making a big deal about it. And stuff that had been posted within hours. Did she just kill the president or premier of Germany? No. No. But people were posting it like it was
Starting point is 02:10:22 brand new news. And so I was like, like well this is all bullshit and i kept scrolling and i found something else same thing went and googled it like 10 year old article or 10 year old video the same thing i just it's just recycled nonsense on twitter like i can't even trust that there's anything good on there. I know. It's tough. Well, Instagram is even worse. Instagram is worse. But the cool thing is it's pretty easy to fact check pretty quick. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:53 Like, okay, here's a couple weird inconsistencies. Like, she's not even the CEO of that boating company. Right. Shit like that. Or she didn't die six days ago. She died six years ago. I think I already played this i'll play it again anyway this is a jillian michaels uh on bill maher here we go good you get gavin
Starting point is 02:11:12 to run for president for a very long time and are you serious are we living in gavin newsom's california why yeah and i'm sure your life is just a nightmare because of him did it affect your life crime affecting our lives is it I'm sure your life is just a nightmare. I left because of him. Did it affect your life? Is the crime affecting our lives? Is homelessness affecting our lives? Was crime affecting your life here in California? Yeah, absolutely. My house got broken into. Your house got broken into?
Starting point is 02:11:31 Yes. Guess who let the guy out during COVID? Newsome. It was the guy's third offense. He broke into our house. He had duct tape and a video camera. Anyway, long story, but he, third strike, guy goes to jail, gets let out during COVID. I mean, give me
Starting point is 02:11:48 a f***ing break. You're not going to hold PG&E accountable for that fire in 2018. You're going to decriminalize everything but regulate nothing. You're prioritizing the craziest s*** I've ever seen in my life. My thing with Gavin
Starting point is 02:12:03 is, first of all, he can win. First of all, I just like him. We handled COVID. Not for it. Not for it. Shut the schools forever. Bill Maurer likes him because he can win. You know how tardy he sounds?
Starting point is 02:12:20 Isn't that crazy? He only cares if the crime has affected him. Oh, and there's a part even further on. He's like, you're worried about the dandruff. Does he have no kids? Does he have no kids? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:12:35 Let me look. God, he is such a bitch. God, he's such a bitch. Imagine that. How does he have his own TV show if that's his best argument Man to get schooled by Jillian fucking Michaels is crazy wife. No kids. Yep. He talks like someone who has no kids No wife. No kids. Yeah. Yeah, he talks like a complete fucking idiot. He really is that you he's such a fucking douche For mind you with no mask on at the French Laundry, after saying you can't-
Starting point is 02:13:08 Again, you are just- you're obsessing again about- What was done right? Look at how she's pointing the facts out and he's attacking her. So he doesn't have any facts, so he has to attack her character. Yeah, of course. I have no facts. Listen, dude, you just said you your your major premise your opening line of your paragraph is you like him because he can win
Starting point is 02:13:29 is that crazy yeah i like alabama because they can win too but oh my god Hey, he'd been on Hitler's side Right, absolutely Why do you like Hitler? Because he can win Jesus The thing about the dandruff He went to the wrong restaurant
Starting point is 02:13:59 Really? He didn't follow his own rules If you're going to be a leader you lead by example that's a fucking dandruff trying to get captain to run for president for a very worried about the dandruff the dandruff yeah you're into the broken into or possibly getting like raped and kidnapped yeah no that's that's just dandruff dude it's cool uh bill maher keeps getting destroyed over and over on his podcast riley gaines pbd jillian maybe he's doing it on purpose maybe maybe he's doing those those three he'll just they'll fuck anybody up yeah i saw patrick bet
Starting point is 02:14:36 david on there that was awesome here's the thing too bill needs to stop drinking and smoking on his show oh didn't somebody ask him oh um the dude from jackass he asked him to stop smoking weed on this or if he would just not smoke weed on the show because uh he's he's sober yeah guy's name um steve-o or some shit evo yeah because he's sober he like doesn't drink doesn't smoke nothing he asked him if he would stop drinking and smoking on for their show together and he's like no i'm not gonna do that he's like uh okay well i'm just not gonna do your show then oh so he didn't do it yeah he's like fuck you that's crazy steve oh there you go uh let me play one more one more thing here Steve oh there you go
Starting point is 02:15:29 let me play one more one more thing here did you watch the I watched the oh I'm gonna save this I'm gonna save this for when Greg's on I watched the I watched the pot did you watch Brian uh brian interview fraser no i haven't had a chance to yet is any good yeah it's good it's good uh it's uh i don't have good the right word to say it's good yeah it's good it's good but there's something in there in the middle that's fucking wild to me really yeah what was it you want to say i kind of want to show you um it is so fucking wild it is so wild there's two things he says and he says both of them like Fraser says both of them like in a 30 second window and I'm just fucking floored
Starting point is 02:16:27 I'm just floored because he said it yeah I just I can't process I can't process like quiet part out loud kind of thing? Yeah, it's like, dude, where have you lived? It's like he says these two things,
Starting point is 02:16:51 and I feel like I want to ask Fraser if he lives on the moon. He does. I should time code it and show it. I should do a news show. But basically, at one point,'s talking he's going to an Event in Fargo this week. It's called the able games or something able games. Yeah. Yeah Yeah with all the and he says um, he says these
Starting point is 02:17:17 This event needs more By the way, Matt has it By the way, Matt has it. It's the most relaxed I've seen Matt, but I can still tell he's not fully relaxed like he's not free. Like it's not. And I don't I don't mean to put anyone under the judgment, but you can't go anywhere in conversation with them. There's rules, there's bumpers, and that's like that with a lot of people. And it's fine. But but I can see them and feel them. And so when you get too close to one of the bumpers, you can see the tension kind of escalates, right? An example would be like when coaching Brooke Wells comes up or Patrick Clark asks him a question like,
Starting point is 02:17:53 hey, do you keep track of kind of what's going on in the CrossFit community? And he swerves off into this area that I don't think, I haven't talked to Patrick about it, but I don't think Patrick was referencing. And so he tries to stay in this pretty benign safe lane right and but there's a part in there in the middle where uh you could harley mom i couldn't get through the fraser interview it was boring that's a nice motorcycle it was okay i i mean i listened to it one and a quarter time while i was
Starting point is 02:18:27 driving my kids to and from tennis but but i was i but i'm also like looking to collect news and stories and shit but i didn't think it was bad by any means and it was nice to hear from matt i haven't heard from him in a long time maybe it was 1.5 speed i'm not sure but um there was a point there where he talks about the able games and he said hey things like this deserve way more notoriety or something like that attention okay and i'm just tripping because once again, you have Matt who's the most popular guy in CrossFit with the most followers, with the biggest agent, Matt O'Keefe, with the biggest management company. And yet Jason Hopper's got 70,000 followers on Instagram and he hasn't been on Matt Fraser's Instagram in 74 weeks or whatever i just like it's and you do things like this a mush campaign and these athletes do this mush campaign it's like there's zero authenticity there's zero desire to
Starting point is 02:19:36 really uh it doesn't look like anyone's trying to promote anyone or anything to me yeah he'll promote mush but he won't weigh in on something that it's not doesn't isn't getting enough attention i'm like dude you have the biggest platform in the space and you look like you're just promoting one thing which is fine it's his it's i'm not uh it's his to promote himself which is himself but it's like dude like i don't i really don't want to hear anyone like i don't hear any of the fucking agents or athletes or anyone weighing on that subject anymore when i don't see them doing shit and and and in his defense brian also and patrick bring up like hey you do a lot of things that people don't see you do like i didn't know he went and um what's that called uh uh like comedians go and entertain officers on boat and shit you know what that's like a uso yeah he done five uso tours like that cool
Starting point is 02:20:26 right and i didn't know like um uh um their company gives away five thousand dollars a month oh really po does yeah to like i don't know to what but but i think it's like like i imagine it as being like school like if your school needs gym equipment um hwpo gives a five thousand dollar grant a month which is is awesome. Fuck. I mean, so maybe there is tons of great shit he's doing. But okay, fine. But the promotion that I see from agent and management and based on what I'm looking at is just horrible. Then here's the second thing he said, and this is the thing that blew my mind and it was right after
Starting point is 02:21:05 that he said and did you know that the number one leading cause of death amongst the i think he calls them in needs community like people in needs i think he means like disabled and retarded people and things like that is obesity really and i'm like holy fuck does he know that disabled people also that they're that they also drink water that they're bipedal that they breathe oxygen like you're telling me that you've been in crossfit for fucking 10 or 15 years and you didn't know the number one leading cause of death amongst just everyone in the united states is obesity you didn't know that type 2 diabetes heart disease coronary disease is all code for you're a fat fuck you have a fucking refined carbohydrate addict uh you're a refined carbohydrate addict
Starting point is 02:21:54 and he's shocked that that's the number one cause of death for retards i'm just like, what the fuck? He said it blew his hair back or something. Who says that? I don't know, but I mean, I'm glad he knows now. But like, dude, do you not know that that's what Greg's been saying ad nauseum for fucking 15 years? We have the cure for the world's most vexing problem. What do you think that was? He thought that disabled people were exempt from fucking being OB.
Starting point is 02:22:34 I just do to listen for anyone who doesn't know the leading cause of death in the United States is stuff that you're putting in this mouth. It's the leading cause of premature death and death. That's it. It doesn't matter whether you're retarded. It doesn't matter. Like it's probably the leading cause for dogs to even doesn't matter whether you're retarded it doesn't matter like it's probably the leading cause for dogs too even it doesn't matter if you're gay it doesn't matter if you're black it doesn't matter if you're white that is the leading cause of death eating refined carbohydrates eating sugar yeah it's even worse that institutionalized individuals are fed absolute trash yeah and then he goes on to say that they don't have access to gym equipment, blah, blah, blah. And resources. It's like, dude, it's like.
Starting point is 02:23:11 It's the rest of the world, too. just sees that that's the problem worldwide and like you don't need to even look at individual you don't need to look at groups just focus on individuals don't start doing the group thing you're going to end up down the dei path and you're going to fuck yourself you're going to turn into a fucking homophobe racist piece of shit you don't want to do that just focus on that message in its totality it actually does include everyone people in wheelchairs people who are too tall people are too are too short. It's everyone. Yeah, eat as much lettuce as you want, Jeffrey. You're good to go. Fucking just go.
Starting point is 02:23:54 You can just walk right up to a tree and bite out the side of a tree. Yeah, yeah. Go for it. As much broccoli as you want. Mexicans too you guys are triply fucked too much rice and beans
Starting point is 02:24:09 when he said that I'm like man he really did have his head down and was living in a fucking cave yeah I mean he trained at an affiliate for a little bit too I doubt he even took notice of what was going on in there yeah I was just
Starting point is 02:24:25 tripping. I was like, wait, did he really just say that? Even in hospitals, Matt, even in hospitals, the go-to drink is Coca-Cola. I'll have a Coca-Cola for dinner, a Popeye, and a slice of cheesecake. I'm in here for my uh amputation for
Starting point is 02:24:46 my type 2 diabetes that's right yeah i keep those sugars up they keep beer on stock too you know for those alcoholics do they really yeah you can prescribe beer for people uh who are going through they're like going through uh withdrawals they start getting therapy again Matt lives in a self-imposed bubble okay well I guess then welcome outside the bubble now and um you're about to trip welcome to the real world buddy yeah and that's fine I was just shocked I'm not mad at him or hating on him I'm just completely utterly shocked that you could be in this space and not know that the that the greg's message to the affiliates for the last 10 years is you have the cure for the world's most vexing problem and that was uh uh stuffing your face getting fat and then having doctors diagnose you with some bullshit that they try to fix the bullshit instead of you changing what you're eating here's another thing uh that someone should tell matt too if you get a chance is that you can't
Starting point is 02:25:50 exercise away a bad diet boy maybe that's why he didn't know that the telling the world that he eats snicker bars and drinks coca-cola was weird on joe rogan maybe that's why he was like white what's wrong with that i don't know why everybody took that seriously. I, that's, that's what I did all the time. There are these people out there and I get it that will not promote anything without being paid for it.
Starting point is 02:26:24 I fully understand that. But remember, but remember, in order to be that way, all of your authenticity equity has been used up. If we know that you'll only sell stuff that you're paid to sell, that anytime you do try to say something authentic, we will not believe you. Or the smartest people in the room won't believe you because of predictive value. Let me repeat that again. You will only promote stuff that you get paid to promote or that benefits you. You are burning your authenticity equity. It doesn't happen to me very often, but every once in a while, someone will say some dumb shit. I'll see it in the comments. I saw it on the Daniel Brandon video we did and they go,
Starting point is 02:27:29 Oh, look at these idiots just doing clicks and views. And it reminds me of the time that, um, I filmed, uh, I've told you guys a story before where I filmed, um, this car drove into this crowd of people and killed a bunch of the people. And the guy jumped out of the car and screamed, I'm the angel of death. And I filmed it. And I, for fucking three years prior to that, never left my house without my big ass video camera. Never. And so to call me an ambulance chaser or an opportunist really fucking pissed me off because my whole thing
Starting point is 02:28:05 was to film and what was happening in this one town and to make tv shows from it and so when these fucking idiots are like say stuff to me like you'll just do stuff for clicks or you'll just do stuff for views like just look at the fucking huge library of of Videos that Caleb. Sousa and I have made. And if you think. That we're just doing stuff for views. And clicks then we're fucking stupid. Either we're stupid or you're stupid. You're either incredibly stupid.
Starting point is 02:28:39 For thinking that or we're really bad. At getting views and clicks. Really bad. Yeah. All right. that or we're really bad at getting views and clicks really bad yeah all right uh love you guys i'm trying to get patrick velner on saturday i'm pretty excited it's been it's been a minute since i talked to him i think he's coming on saturday morning uh tomorrow jimmy watson holy shit oh david weed we're all stupid how generous of you uh jimmy watson's coming on tomorrow i'm just doing that show for views and clicks oops did i say that out loud uh it's gonna be cool this is the guy um he worked for blackwater
Starting point is 02:29:18 i can't wait to hear his uh story he was also a sealAL. And then Shut Up and Scribble is on tomorrow evening. And then Friday is Jay Cooey. So here's something interesting about Friday's show. Friday's show will probably, if you don't see that show live, you'll have to go over to Rumble and watch it after. Jay is crazy smart. see that show live you'll have to go over to rumble and watch it after uh jay jay uh is crazy smart i met him through um greg and greg met him through rodney mullen and uh i think he was may have worked for the children's health defense fund for a while or maybe was the
Starting point is 02:30:01 head of it and uh i also want to say that maybe I need to review my JQE resume but I want to say maybe he was a physics teacher at some university or biology teacher anyway PhD smart guy he's been on the show before he says some some shit that's like that YouTube does not like
Starting point is 02:30:19 so you want to see that show and Jada Coons will be on Sunday no no yeah Rodney Mull on the skater yes correct love you guys see you guys later
Starting point is 02:30:34 don't forget to watch Pedro's show today I want to say it's at 12 buh bye

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