The Sevan Podcast - Greg Glassman & Zachary Kaddatz

Episode Date: November 16, 2023

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What's happening? Bam, we're live. Good to have you, Zachary Kadatz. Devon, bam. Been waiting a long time to say that bam say the last name zachary cadets zachary cadets cadets yeah a lot of people a lot of people think it's saying sounds like cadets but cadets a bit more stronger god it's nice name zachary cadets it's like feels made up stronger god it's nice name zachary cadets it's it's like feels made up i i think it's like polish german that type of that type of sort of origin are you jewish no christian oh isn't zachary a jew name uh it's probably from the bible zachariah or something like that but you share you the christians and the jews share it they swap it yeah i guess whatever whatever's trendy dude crazy four four instagram accounts crazy dude i spent a

lot of time on instagram and a lot of time on my phone and social media it's uh at times it's a bit of a handful i'll tell you what yeah it's cool though you know know, well, let me ask you, do you think it's cool? I think it's awesome, dude. The main one, the daily CrossFit tip, or it's now a daily training tip, that's been like such a wild ride and such an awesome journey. I mean, I get to meet that many cool, crazy people. I mean, I'm meeting you for the first time. We'll probably spend the whole show, you getting to know me, even though I feel like i've got an intimate relationship with you and caleb in the chat and all that type

of thing but the amount of cool people i meet the amount of cool experiences that i have just by instagram i mean the internet gets a bad rap a lot of the time but instagram can be a fun place as well when you when you're doing things for the right reason i guess as well yeah me i think so too um some of us are just taking complete advantage of it and using it properly uh paper street copy i i've seen this dude's butt cheers gabe yeah wow it makes it to uh australia it costs a lot and it takes a long time but it makes it here yeah crazy uh peloton oh gnarly just here trying to desperately sell bikes to dana and crossfit crossfit that's him that's the guy oh man i don't distract me don't distract distract. CrossFit Hero, just the tips.

That's all I can handle. And is CrossFit Hero a CrossFit gym there? CrossFit Hero is a good friend, yeah. It's a CrossFit gym up at the Sunshine Coast. That's Mark Island. He's actually part of the Bergen of Strength seminar staff, the CrossFit weightlifting seminar staff. He's a really cool dude.

What's his name again? Mark he's a really cool dude actually what's his name again mark david ireland really cool dude mark david ireland did he take his wife's name is that why he has all those names you'll have to ask him i've got no idea okay i would only judge him a little bit behind closed doors um okay uh and you are also the head coach at crossfit confront yeah crossfit confront it's a gym that's been in my city for about 10 years and i've been managing and head coaching it for about five years since since 2019 is is that code for um the owners have completely abandoned it and left you in charge yeah look the owner's probably watching now but back in i joined the gym in 2017 and that's basically when i started crossfit my whole journey started then um just fell in love with like

like a lot of people did my l1 i was actually getting out of the construction industry where i had done a trade qualification and all the rest of it looking for something new and looking for something i loved and basically i said to the owner if he ever has more coaching hours and more things to do i would love to do it because i'm enjoying the part-time coaching aspect um and one one day he said yeah i'm looking to take a bit of a step back and if you want to do the head coach role it's yours um he is still working part-time with defense here in Australia. So he's always busy and he's doing a lot of things all the time. And I trust him.

Yeah, he trusts me with the place. And I'm so grateful that he gave me the opportunity to lead the community and to run this place. How big is the town it's in? Toowoomba is a city of, I'll How big is the town it's in? Toowoomba is a city of, I'll probably get this wrong, it's probably 150,000 people say. Okay, so a legit place, stoplights and the whole shebang. Oh man, yeah, it's a big smoke.

We're only about an hour and a half from Brisbane, which is where the Tourian Pro is held and that's one of the major cities. But Toowoomba where I'm at, about 150,000, probably more if you include the region. And there's a handful of gyms and a handful of CrossFit boxes here. Do you remember what month in 2017, Zachary?

When I started CrossFit. So I know I was doing CrossFit. If I'm allowed to say that or not in like a world gym or a global gym before that. And I remember doing like workouts like DT. And I remember actually DT taking me like 27 minutes to do when it should be like a sub 10 minute workout or a five to seven minute workout or whatever. And then one day I was like, OK, cool. I feel like I'm pretty fit.

I'm going to go and try actually go to a CrossFit affiliate. And I joined up CrossFit Confront right here, two or three weeks before the CrossFit Open in 2017. So it would have been January, February. And I was going to do the Open. 17 and 18 were huge years for CrossFit. That's why I asked. 2017 and the last part of 2017

and the first part of 2018 was the most growth CrossFit experienced since 2014. So from 2014 to 2017, there was a little bit of a slump, and then it skyrocketed again. And I take full responsibility for that. That's why I ask that when I hear 2017 and ecstatic. Well, I mean, I started in 2017 around the Open, and I said i was going to do the open and i just never left i loved it that much and i loved crossfit i love the gym i love the people that much i never left but um and did you consume i mean i'm not media did you consume a shitload of media did

you watch everything website yeah everything and i was watching the media before i walked into the affiliate because it's like what is this this is epic This is cool. It's really hard for me to pinpoint what made me try CrossFit in the first place because I mean, I saw bits and pieces on ESPN of the games and I saw, I was seeing a ton of stuff on YouTube and I'm not an OG by any means because I only started in 2017,

but man, I wish we could go back to a lot of the aspects of CrossFit from back in that time. 17 was like the second heyday. You came at a good time seven from probably like november of 17 to like september of 2018 was a massive heyday that the media output then was insane the open was wild i mean the the the community was crazy uh invigorated um peloton again wow uh please tell zachary to do fantasy land and i'll give david weed the 12 dd 12 dd a whole peloton of bikes if they beat zach are you good crossfitter zachary i mean i, I go all right. I'm no games athlete.

I'm no regionals athlete. But, I mean, I love training and I love doing my best. So, I mean, my best ever open finish was about 100th or 150th in Australia. Holy shit. Okay. And, I mean, there's a smaller pool in Australia versus America. But, yeah, I go all right. That's no joke.

That's no joke. So, you are a great crossfitter you go hard yeah i just love it dude i love it yeah yeah um make sure uh zach gets this money i can't i can't do that i cannot um i can't whoa look at this seven we i need it more than you i i'll tell you what i'll send you. I'll send you a pair of fancy glasses. Might get here next year. Or these. You choose. I'll take the gold ones.

I'll take the gold ones. That was my wife. That's my wife and my baby. Mel Cadet. Yeah. Hey, Dad. Zimmy. Is your kid's name Zimmy?

Zimmy. Yeah. Wow. That takes – what kind of name is that? Zimmy. You'd have to ask her. She came to me with that name one day, and it was one of the only names that we sort of both agreed on

in terms of a girl. She's a brand-new baby girl. She's only 11 days old. I didn't know white people made up names. That's awesome, Zimmy. That sounds like some sort of cultural appropriation you're doing. Dude, well, it could be. But it was one of the only ones

where it was very very unique but i still liked it so zimmy we landed on that yeah yeah what a great name that's his full name zimmy zimmy middle name may last name cadets yeah cadets zimmy may May Cadets. May. You got it. May. Caleb, is May a boy's name? I think that's more of a female name. Okay. All right. May is a pretty common name for a female name down here. Oh, but is that a boy or a girl?

That's a girl. That's a girl. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Check. Okay. Oh, Caleb. Sorry, Zachary.

I know this is your show. My sister told me today that I called you Sousa. He did. No shit. It's like my parents calling me my brother's name. So I just. Are you sure that I wasn't trying to call Sousa on the phone? I wasn't like, Sousa, do you hear me?

No, you literally said, thanks, S, Susan, as you were talking to me. So then my wife said, hey, I heard you say it too. And then she told me the context I said it. And then she, as she walks away from me, because I do this to her, she'll be like, were you on autopilot? And I'm like, fucking with me. Because I'm just affected by people who go unconscious around me. And I was like, hmm. And I'm like, there's no way i did that so i did that yep yeah it's okay i didn't

hear the question you asked earlier in the show and i recited it yeah you were like a motherfucker though uh a crossfit uh true form uh another good friend dude his wife his wife's in the chat this is not the place to uh ask for the tip man the number of times anyone's asked my tip it's uh you'd be a rich guy if you had me on earlier because they'd be more there'd be more tips like this. Dude, this is crazy. This morning I made $1.99. For Zachary Kadatz from SEMA, SEMA Globes. For Zach, for a stunning, sorry, she must have said. Stunning.

No, it's stunning. No, it's stunning. It's stunning. It's definitely stunning. Do not tell me what it is on my show, Zachary. It's a stunning bunghole. No, I think SEMA, I think Philip Kelly, I think a few others have seen my backside on one occasion.

One occasion. He was sunning his stunning bunghole. Me too halfway. Yeah. How have they seen – do you know them in person? No, not in person. I hope to one day. Actually, it's definitely one of my goals to get over to the

u.s you know meet up for the games or travel travel the country or do anything like that um but no i've been invited to be part of the seven easters private group chat so i'm the australian representative or the southern hemisphere representative is that how you get in you have to be invited no i don't know but um I just made friends with everyone in the group chat here for the last two or three years. And I'm pretty good friends with those guys now. I heard that the Savonistas group chat asks everyone for a – it's like Scientology. They want a picture of everyone's bunghole. So that way if you ever leave, they can –

Well, they never asked me for one, but offered them up one anyway yeah offered it um it's a chinese name uh sc fitness says the zimmy it's a chinese name fair enough well i've got no idea if it means anything or anything like that it just rolls off the tongue so nicely and it and it fits in with yeah and who doesn't want a z in their name? And now your kid has two. That's fun. Starts and finishes with a Z. Yeah. Oh, and in Australia we say Zed and not Z. Can you write cursive? Do you have the skills? Can you write in cursive? Yeah. Yeah.

Cause that skills eroding here in the great land. I'm sort of on your side of that argument with the learning cursive. Yes, I think it's nice to learn. It's nice not to be an idiot. I want to talk about, I want to really dig into this. It's the daily training tips, right? That's the big account? Yes.

Okay. Why did you start that? Long story short, I liked making content already. I hadn't had much success with getting more well-known or anything, but I was actually making little vlogs where I would go around to affiliates and make a little vlog, like a 10 to 20-minute video showcasing the affiliate. And I called that as many affiliates as possible. And I sort of stopped doing that because I ran out of gyms to visit that were less than an hour or two from my house so and

those on YouTube those are on YouTube those are on my YouTube channel yeah so everyone should go and subscribe to that um so the reason I started daily CrossFit tip was I did my level two seminar. And part of the feedback from the seminar was you need to be able to sort of convey information a little more clearly and a little more succinctly, along with a few other things. And so I thought, cool, I'm gonna put a one minute video up every single day of coaching content and hone my craft sort of thing.

And if you scroll right to the bottom, which I do not recommend you do, you'll sort of see that my skills of creating content or, you know, coaching and speaking have come a long way. What year was that? What year was that? Well, we're nearly two years in. So that was, that was only start of 2022. Start of yeah, 2022. You know what's crazy is that is the exact same thing that Hiller did. That's the exact same thing Kelly Starrett did.

They made a commitment to make a piece of content every day for a year. Did you ever miss a day? Never missed a day. There were a few times where I came close. I've actually doubled up a couple of days um so the goal is to put at least one piece of content out and a few a few of the days that i've nearly missed i mean i've kind of cheated in a way where i've reposted or repurposed a previously made piece of content how many of those days how many of those days listen carefully

here caleb we're going to talk about this later when we judge him. How many days? I'm not sure what I'm up to. It's 680 days and I might have repurposed 30 or 40. I mean, in the first 365. Yeah, maybe 20 or 30. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. You could go and count them, but there were some days where I repurposed them and those were days where I didn't get to the gym to film uh some content was like not corrupted but the content was crappy or you know stuck with the family or like you were you were inspired to make something you made it and then you watched it you're like fuck this really isn't good yeah I'm not proud of this yeah yeah a few of those days and because it was purposed for Instagram if it was longer than 60 seconds, I was kind of screwed.

So if I filmed anything that was too long, now it's a minute 30 or 90 seconds. But yeah, there were a few days that I repurposed or reposted. But most of it, the vast, vast majority is new content every single day. And I pretty much run off in in the moment inspiration i do a little bit of planning um but whatever i'm feeling or whatever i see coming up in the program or whatever i see needs addressing if it's like the open or whatever then i'll make content around that do you ever do um um it looks like you have a community now. You have your group. There's people who are like part of the Zachary Kadat's daily training tip.

100%. 100%. And it's actually quite funny. I probably wouldn't have made it to the level that I'm at now. And honestly, I think I'm still getting started, but I probably wouldn't have made it to the level I'm at now if it wasn't for this show. I mean, this is the first time I've been on,

but way back in the day, made friends with uh wad zombie and that just happened very organically in the chat like hey what's up or like i might have commented on some of his memes or content or whatever and and we would here or there we'd post like a tip slash meme something that was like semi-funny but semi-informative and and that was actually probably one of the first things that really got the needle moving or the ball rolling um sort of friends like wad zombie and he actually got me onto colton mertens who followed along pretty early on when i only had 100 followers or 200 followers or something like that um i don't know what your question was but

that's sort of how it gets about about your just about your community i wasn't going to take it there at all but i loved your story and it's because of course i i come out looking good in it yeah it's crazy that's all dude you're using the internet for all the shit that people should be using it for it should not be for scrolling it It should be for a discipline, structure, creativity, making friends and making a living. 100% dude. And I mean, I started the page with the reason, like I said, I needed to improve different aspects of my coaching or different aspects of my presentation. But it turned into so much more than that, where I built a community with all these people and, and I'm just having a blast with it. Yeah. I'm just thinking this off the top of my head and you, the community came because you're giving something away.

A hundred percent dude, giving, giving something, giving. You're adding value to people's life. Yeah. And that was the goal. Like I wanted to improve my coaching, but I had to put something out that was useful and something that people would benefit from. And I mean, if it's good content and if it's useful and it's good information, then it will be shared and it will be tagged and it will be liked and all that sort of stuff anyway. And that led to the natural growth of it. But I had to put out stuff that was good, and that was one of the main goals. Yeah, just offering stuff. Offer stuff.

Yeah, it's crazy. Listen, listen. Squeak? It's a little kid on a swing. No, do you know what a whirlybird is? No. They're like these little vents that spin in the top of sheds. Do you know what they are?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's one that squeaks. I'm in the gym right now, and there's one that squeaks, and that's what that sound is. What an incredible vocabulary you have. Is it whirlybird? Yeah, I guess so. That's what I call them.

Is that official? Whirlybird? Roof turbine. Whirlybird. I is that official whirlybird roof turbine whirlybird i call them a whirlybird it's not really yeah that wow i would is that common vernacular do whirlybird oh wow do whirlybird uh whirlybirds work wow what an incredible vocabulary you have i would have just been like i would have had to say that thing that spins on the roof that looks like a tornado. This is one of my favorite parts of the show too. Like I don't understand what a lot of you guys are talking about half the

time. And obviously a whirlybird, something new to, to you guys. Yeah. Thank you. We have, I mean,

we have those in the States. I've just never heard them. So below me to know that's the such pedestrian. That's such pedestrian. That's my gift. Blue collar stuff. Extra sloppy, Zach. Zachary.

It's not Zach. It's Zachary. No one calls him Zach. Does anyone call you Zach? Everybody calls me Zach, but I like either way. That's why I put my name down as Zachary because it's my name. I actually like when people call it that. Yeah. Does anyone call you by your last name, Kadatz?

Yeah, all the time. I call Caleb Beaver. That's what I know. That's the reason. Beaver. Yes, he's a beaver. Zach, MFK. Okay, here we go. It's been a while.

This is a gentle one. Why do I have to be in there? That's it. I think it's an easy one. What the fuck? Well... Mary, fuck or kill. Austin Powers, James Bond, or Sevan?

Well, I'd fuck you. I'm not letting you fuck me. That's for sure. You do not want to be fucked by this fucking Pringles can. Trust me. Oh my goodness. Definitely I'd have to kill Austin Powers and marry Bond. That's easy.

Smart. Smart. I don't have one night stands, though. Be aware of that. I'm not that kind of guy. Sage 5 Clinger so so you popped on my radar i think obviously because of the uh oh oh thank you barry yes barry mccauchney here we go uh zachary from uh daily training tips weighs in on another important decision. Mary Fuckerkill, Sporty Beth, who is represented by the SN1 agency.

All of you aspiring YouTubers should go have John seen. Barry, you shouldn't have paid for this, honestly, because I was trying to make friends with Sporty Beth just so I could talk some sense into her. Oh, that's cool of you. Wow, that's cool of you. Were you really? Look, I got nothing against her. Oh, that's cool of you. Wow, that's good of you. Were you really? Look, I got nothing against her, but... Yeah, I...

I've got nothing against her, but some of the things she thinks are wrong, so... Brother, I think that's... Hey, I think that that's absolutely noble to try to talk to her and just hope you don't catch whatever she has. I think it's awesome uh sporty beth uh hq cmo wait um i don't know who that is i haven't i've been watching all this

growl josh the guy on private that him yeah yeah josh growl or um the coons barry you shouldn't have paid for this cause I'm not going to answer it. Oh, Mary, I'm sorry. Mary, I'll send you the money back. That's really cool of you. Yeah, that's good.

Yeah. I hope that would be awesome. Um, that would be awesome. So I'll do it for him. He will, he, for him,

he'll marry sporty Beth and, uh, he'll fuck Josh cause he doesn't, cause he's not sure if de coons is gay and uh he'll uh marry de coons no kill de coons sorry probably probably lose my show he said kill um so you popped on my radar zachary because the um you this used to be called the CrossFit daily training tips yeah dude so when I started the page I thought well before I started I had this idea cool I'm gonna make a minute video every single day and we're gonna call it daily CrossFit tip where I give a tip about CrossFit every single day literally as simple as that and I went ahead

made an Instagram page called the daily CrossFit tip and the whole time um like being a level one trainer and level two and level three every single step along the way they tell you you cannot call anything crossfit unless it's a licensed affiliate or you cannot call yourself anything except a crossfit level one train or level two trainer or whatever and the whole time i sort of knew, I'm sort of going against the grain here, but I don't really care because I'm just making a little video every day. It's not that big of a deal. And the next minute it's got 30, 40, nearly 50,000 followers. And they didn't like the fact it was called Daily CrossFit Tip. And does the lawyer contact you through your DMs? It was someone from their

legal representative. They emailed me. I've got an email address easily accessible on the Instagram page and all that sort of thing. They emailed me basically saying, you're using the CrossFit trademark outside of license and you need to stop, basically.

I wonder if you affiliated if you could choose that name for an affiliate? Well, after their first contact, they were quite nice about it. I responded and I said, hey, is there any way we can work around this? Can I affiliate the name? Can we go into partnership with making content? Can I come? I just offered them a whole bunch of things and they basically said no to everything. They even said no to affiliating the name because it's not a, the reason they gave for

that I think was it's not a location and it's not a gym. They wouldn't at that stage let me affiliate a instagram page wow and i probably wouldn't have anyway because i'm not making enough money off of it to spend like over here it's about five thousand dollars to to affiliate a a gym so that's that would have been the cost every year so i wouldn't have done it but i i asked anyway to see what their response would have been um me me meme for uh meme for time here because i love you zachary zachary you here because i love zachary i love zach i love you zach here too many memes have fried his brain I think he can't he got all the words in there that's cool

I love you Rollo I love you is that guy Australian no dude you don't know that guy that's the I do know that's meme for time on Instagram but yeah he's American oh okay he lives in California they're all the same

to me hey and did that It was in California. They're all the same to me. Hey, did that hurt? Did that bother you? Did that hurt? Well, since the day I started, I knew that day would come, especially as the page grew and it just sort of hit a point and it just grew exponentially, and I knew the day would come. Yes, it did hurt.

It, like, really bummed me out. That being said, I never missed a day and I never let it sort of show too much on the outside that it bummed me out. But it was almost like it bummed me out because I'd lost something that I had worked hard on. Right. I mean, to be fair, like I shouldn't have named it that in the first place, blah, blah, blah, whatever.

But like I worked hard on it and I put out useful and good information. It's not like I was stealing anything from them. Is that really true though? Like did you look into it? Can you not have the word? Because ironically, it's so funny. When I signed up for Instagram and whatever year that was, I'd never had a Facebook or any social media and I signed up for Instagram

and I called myself Sevan CrossFit or CrossFit Savon. There's so many pages on Instagram that use the word CrossFit and sell the word CrossFit with programming and all that type of thing. So someone probably like reported you? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Or someone, someone seen it, someone had seen it and they didn't like where it had i don't i don't know because i basically just got noticed how you're using the name and you need to stop or we'll give you two weeks to take it off everything basically i forgot to say thank you thank you thank you meme meme for time memes is it meme or memes for time maybe he needs an s in there no no meme for time i'm gonna buy an s um just one name here's a cool here's a great dude too man you should have Is it meme or memes for time? Maybe he needs an S in there. No, no, meme for time. I'm going to buy him an S.

Just one meme for time? He's a great dude too, man. You should have him on the show. He'll add value to the show. 100%. He might actually talk more than you too. So, Hannah B., shout out to Zach, fellow guerrilla health athlete. No one supports his sponsors better than ZK.

Hannah is a very good friend. Yeah, she's a very good friend yeah she's she's a very good friend cool chick what does this mean no one supports his sponsors uh you have sponsors for the daily training tip yeah so gorilla health there they were actually my first sponsor they they helped me out with clothes training gear like knee sleeves and grips and all that type of thing and hannah actually worked for them at the time and sort of got me in they're a local australian company too so if anyone wants any grips and stuff hit them up how did you get how did you get sponsors um them it was because of her because she because

i had known her and she was a good friend and she then went over to work for gorilla health and basically got me on board there. I've got another sponsor, ATP Science, and they're supplements. And I had used them for like the last 10 years. And they're literally the only company in Australia that I trust and would actually vouch for. And I hit them up and said, look, I've been using your stuff for this long. I swear by it. It's the only stuff I sort of would use and they said yeah let's let's go ahead let's make a partnership um and one when people's pages grow on instagram or youtube or whatever you get hit up all the time for all sorts of different things but i definitely don't want to take on too many different things

and and sort of water it down too much i definitely only want to take on too many different things and, and sort of water it down too much. I definitely only want to take on sponsors or, or partnerships that I actually believe in and want to work with. Do you have an agent? No, no, no. So they're all just relationships you built.

Yeah. A hundred percent. Yeah. It's, I feel like it's so much better that way. I feel like it's better that way, especially too, because I'm not, I know it's better actually. Sorry. Go ahead. No, I'm not, I'm not it's so much better that way. I feel like it's better that way, especially too, because I'm not just better, actually, sorry.

Go ahead. No, I'm not. I'm not just some chick with big tits and I'm not just putting Coca-Cola on my Instagram story, you know, five days a week I'm putting out coaching content and I want to put out stuff that I believe in and things that I think are true. Right. So building the relationships with sponsors and and whatnot uh like you have to sort of believe what you're putting out there too

go ahead i'm putting some workouts up on on instagram too now basically so that's i've got daily training tip and that's another page daily training program and so when i had to make the name change i could stop dancing around sort of monetization and so when i had to make the name change i could stop dancing around sort of monetization issues because when i had named it daily crossfit tip i was i was honestly dancing around how do i make money from this or how do i how do i build this continually but now that it's the crossfit's out of the name i can sort of run with some programming that i'm writing and a few other things too so um this um i i understand the sting by the way it's it's kind of interesting too it's almost like you were kicked out of a family too did you feel that maybe it was different but

they're like you're giving so much to it and you were just hope i mean even though it's not realistic you're just hoping at some point someone would be like well we'll make an exception here because this guy's just doing so well and so and, and he's, and he's adding value. Yeah, dude. I mean, I never felt like I was being kicked out of the family, but it stung because I felt like I was adding value. I felt like my heart was in the right place. I wasn't trying to steal anything from CrossFit. I wasn't trying to undermine any of the coaching information they were putting out. I was literally trying to add value to the community. Did you think about calling it, did you think about switching to CF daily training?

That was so up in the air about whether I call it daily training tip or daily CF tip, because CF would be extremely relevant to the, to the original name and to the community that I'm focusing on. But I had already – my personal training and online training business is registered as daily training. So I just went with daily training for everything. Someone could – another good one would be TDC, the daily CrossFit. But you don't have to tell them that's what it is. Yeah.

Well, I still call it DCT, daily Cross is yeah well i still call it um dct daily crossfit tip i still call it that oh you do yeah yeah because i've got a i've got a running tally at the start of every post i'm up to 680 or something like that dct number 680 oh no shit is that in the in the post it's literally the first thing so that's that's the way i keep a tally of it oh that's cool that's on the oh and that's on the training tips darn it thing so that's that's the way I keep a tally of it oh that's cool that's on the oh and that's on the training tips darn it oops oh that's interesting it just it wouldn't let me just go to your Zachary cadets cadets oh there we are but yeah it sort of stung a little bit because I was honestly just trying to give value trying to push the CrossFit message in the most part and before i changed the name a lot of them

the videos were literally like pushing the crossfit message don't eat sugar eat meats and vegetables you know do functional movements all that type of thing um i don't see the number on there how come i don't see oh oh oh okay okay okay oh that's on the training program oh daily training tip tip i collab both of them together fairly often yeah um just to drive traffic to the the program more than anything is that where you would you do stuff like that too do you do stuff like um hey uh here's a 30 day program for uh warm-ups uh the next 30 days every single program every single post is going to be a a segment of a warm-up uh you do things or weeks or anything like that i didn't really catch that but like i'll do themes around the open or themes around certain times of the year

and if i'm ever stuck with content to make i'll just base the content around what's in either my programming or actually cap because i know a lot of gyms are using cap and that way it gets shared and a lot of people actually get value out of it because if there's if there's handstand push-ups in cap tomorrow or in two days time that if i make a handstand push-up video then you know there's value there for a lot of people how many gyms do you think use cap no i couldn't even begin to speculate no i've got no idea maybe maybe a third of all the affiliates maybe a quarter maybe wow my guess has got is as holds as much water as yours i've got no idea okay holds as much water as yours i've got no idea okay i i'm three thousand just three thousand just seems like so many to me dude a lot of gyms use it i'm not sure how many do but do you guys use it the affiliate that i

coach at yeah you use it you do you like it i actually love it uh the value especially for our gym i'm the only full i'm the only full-time coach and i'm the most ex other than the owner i'm the most experienced i'm the only crossfit level three in my city and you know other than me i still get a lot out of it that being said all the part-timers that are coaching a few hours a week and they do it because they love it they do it because they're giving back to the community they get so much out of it because every single day there's you know pages and pages of professional development like how to teach an air squat how to cue an air squat what to look for what to see and correct and there's just that much information in there that i honestly think like a beginner coach could read that every single day and literally Skyrocket their coaching trajectory at least in the in the initial term because

throwing back to when I started coaching uh I did my level one and and other than a little bit of coaching development done in the affiliate I was almost just thrown in and here start coaching classes start running classes and it was only other than like the content that i was watching on youtube which you probably filmed a lot of like the level one seminars and all that type of thing um i would be watching those videos every single night or searching for videos if we had hang power cleans in the workout tomorrow i'd be searching hang power clean work video on youtube um and it was all a lot of self-learning so cap a lot of its value or is in the is in the lesson plans and the reading that you can do and the videos that you can watch in there every single day like that's where a lot of the value is i've never heard anything bad about

cap some people want to talk shit about it but i honestly think it's it's quite amazing every single day like that's where a lot of the value is i've never heard anything bad about cap some people want to talk shit about it but i honestly think it's it's quite amazing i haven't heard anything bad about it um the only um shit talking i've heard is that people who purchase gyms should want to do their own programming and that there's like like there's some sort of argument uh for that does cap follow main site no not to my knowledge no oh okay it's it's separate it's separate yeah it's a separate thing okay yeah like like hobart i think basically runs the show over at cap doesn't he uh i i know he used to I think he used to own it when it was called something else and then he sold it to CrossFit. Right.

Okay. Uh, Stephen Flores, uh, Zachary is so dreamy. Love the content brother. Wow. You know, a lot of people on here. Yeah. Stephen's from the internet. He's one of my internet friends, but, uh, most of the other guys that have commented

so far, uh, uh, in person. Wow. Look at this endorsement. Who the hell is that? That young jr howell from the past wow it's actually caleb who the hell is that you you would know i don't know who specifically it is but it's definitely a picture of jr howell wow uh bailey de menace is less than five percent so five percent would be um let's say the for for sake of ease there's ten thousand so uh uh ten percent would be at that so that would be 500 and zachary's guessing maybe 3 000 so somewhere between 500 and 3 000

and that's free that's part of the affiliation right it's part of the affiliation and so like the way that crossfit's going it it couldn't have been that big of a number that it would have been that big of a loss for them to give it away for free you know what i mean yeah listen joe look at this well yeah well they originally sorry if you just said this this, they originally tried to sell it. Right. I didn't know that. You did.

I did not know that. No, I did not. Okay. Yeah. I think they originally tried to sell it and then, and then, and then it became free.

Not free part of the affiliation. Listen to this. This is man. What is Judy? Like 70. Let's look at this question right here uh how did he learn to be social media savvy judy do do something every single day yeah for a month and you will get very very good at it very very quickly did you did you follow

hillar's work from his early days most most of it and and hiller's work is you know i would say far more impressive than mine because he put out a video every single day and you see the energy that he puts into his videos and some of them are much longer than a minute long which which that's all mine are but yeah his his work is incredible just what a remarkable trajectory he was on or he's on i mean his old videos like you're like man you suck and now his new one but i never thought he sucked back then but now i watch his stuff and i'm just blown away yeah it's where i get my news and information from you're right right um uh zachary uh jeremy world uh zachary i think that's an H in there.

I mean, I'm not a spelling guy anyway. Zachary, adding more value to the community than HQ itself. Keep it up, my guy. Thanks, Jeremy. Appreciate it. No idea. Just like, hell yeah. Hell yeah.

Yeah. Bless up. Going back to the whole daily crossfit tip thing and i mean even in even in my city there have been gyms that would try and use the word crossfit in their marketing or on their website or whatever there was even a gym that deal it de-affiliated in like 2016 or 17 but they still had signage at the front with crossfit and i get that when hq would go after them because they're literally stealing clientele or or whatever from crossfit affiliates that are paying the the fee i i wonder what greg or dave or anyone involved would have thought about

instagram content or youtube content around what I was doing, like coaching information, calling it CrossFit advice or CrossFit tips. I wonder what their thoughts would have been on that. Go ahead. Because it's not stealing anything. Here was the thing that I would hear whenever we were in meetings with lawyers and and let me tell you greg did not take direction from lawyers well at all he didn't believe greg did not believe that lawyers should have any involvement in the direction of the company he felt like if the bus ran over someone then while we're still driving away the lawyers should

deal with that stuff you know what i mean yeah but the lawyers would come to greg a lot with this kind of stuff if we don't go after this person, it sets precedent for other people Yeah, right. So if if Lamborghini wanted to put a Make it like a put the word CrossFit on the side of one of their things and Greg's like, yeah, that's a cool brand You know, I'm cool with them using it or like there was a badass jiu-jitsu studio in town and I think they had the word Cross oh, no, it was um It was it was I should let Greg tell the story. You want to hear Greg tell the story? A hundred percent.

Yeah. OK, well, is he waiting? Yeah, I'm right here. Oh, there he is. Hi. Good morning, Zach. How are you? Very good.

Yourself. Good afternoon. Yeah, very well, sir. Yeah, it's first thing in the morning here in the Seychelles. Are you in Hawaii now? Where are you? It's a lot nicer. Marcia Feitosa of Baja Gracie, the preeminent global jiu-jitsu school, had a huge CrossFit sign up in the gym and I'd never met them or been there.

And the lawyers hit him up and I had to pull the lawyers off. But his rationale was he was using the methodology and it seemed dishonest not to fly the flag. And so he got an exemption. And my line was the lawyers don't sit at the at the they sit at the kids table and that analogy of they're supposed to ride the bus and look out the back window and take note of the people i run over i'm really not that interested in their inputs in driving the bus savvy and i went to a four seasons in denver that had a big sign up in the lobby crossfit classes at 10 a.m right and and dale was with us and he's like hey they can't do that and i'm like okay shut up now you know like let it go it's the four fucking seasons they had it on the tv set in my

room scrolling by join our crossfit class on level on floor four or whatever, you know, when I went to my room. Yeah. But what you would have done, I mean, the risk is that to maintain the mark, you have to you have to be in defense of it. And so, you know, you've got to be careful with that. But you also got to be smart and recognize when someone's making a contribution and when they are still.

And Zach, what would have happened in, in my era, had I known as we would have contacted you and probably giving you an affiliation. That's true. That's true. Great. Will you tell the story also? There was the guy who fought Chuck Liddell and got Chuck Liddell as a student by beating up Chuck Liddell. John Hackleman, he had two 10th degree black belts and he just straight up called his shit cross pit. And didn't they try to take that from him, too? And you know, John can use that.

Yeah. Yeah. It is. There was some friction there. And, you know, I understand that. Look, I asked the lawyers, OK, listen, you're saying I shouldn't do this. I go, well, what would have happened if I'd come to you and said, hey, I'm going to post a workout daily for the world to use? They said, oh, you can't do that, not without releases. I go, got it, got it. This would have been stillborn under lawyer control. a huge mistake, huge mistake. And you'd have to be wise enough when to ask for their counsel. But for God's sakes, don't let them hold the wheel. Can you think of any other things, Greg, directly that, sorry, before I go there, I want to also point out, reiterate, this is a theme that Greg talked about last week also, and the fact that you don't want to be affiliated with brands that pull your brand down you don't want your brand to have to carry another brand and so if they're doing crossfit at the four seasons everyone knows the four seasons

is just absolutely amazing right and if it's gracie baja jiu-jitsu and they have you know five wfc champions there that it's like fine it's like it's like good it's a good match it's it's exactly right those are your partners and what It's a good match. It's exactly right. Those are your partners. And I'm not interested in the second best hotel chain with the best. And it's a natural for us. Associations with lesser ranking concepts, whether it's a product or a service, I think dilutes the quality of the mark.

It was why we didn't sell fish oil. Nordic Naturals couldn't explain how the CrossFit fish oil was going to be better than their fish oil. And so I wasn't interested in charging a premium or making a profit off of fish oil that's identical to the one you can get in any grocery store. Now, if someone came to me and go, hey, we're going to make a fish oil that I can demonstrate is the best in the world, well, tell me about it. What makes it best?

And let's see some evidence for that. And what will the price be? And that would have been added to the program. But that's not what I was presented with. It's not that complicated, I don't think, is it? No, but it's... It's a natural behavior for someone who's madly in love with their mark based on its quality and the labor they put into it.

We had the best training program on earth without a doubt. Without a doubt. And I can prove that within the space of any sport. You know, when Scotty and Gumby at OnTheMat.com said that CrossFit was cheating, it was better than steroids, I put a smile on my face. There we are. Check off the MMA community. We got that.

And what shows up, here comes BJ Penn, right? When BJ came to our doors in Santa Cruz, he had yet to get a purple belt. He was a half Gracie blue belt coming off of an addiction issue. He was just a kid. Hey, Greg, I have a trivia question. Zach, I'm proud of what you're doing and what you've done. It's amazing. Much appreciated, man. Much appreciated. You know his page, Greg? His training, you saw it when we pulled it up,

daily training tips. Will you pull it up real quick, Caleb? I do now. Brand new new to me but i've been well kind of getting ready here putzing around uh cleaning up the room a little i got i got it i got a perfect sense of well emily does the the crossfit book doesn't she on instagram yes yeah that's her yes so i've i've tagged her in a few things and had a few very short interactions with her so she may be aware of it hey Zach I want to ask you this question um this was a question Greg used to have me ask affiliate owners um what would you what do you think you'd be doing if you weren't a head coach at CrossFit Confront what do you think you'd be doing right now that is a tough one because I

left construction um looking for something i wanted to do and i was passionate about and that's what led me to the affiliate because i was already coaching part-time and that's what led me to doing it full-time so if i had to change now or or think about what i would be doing instead i've got no idea because i don't see myself going back to construction anytime soon any anytime that i've even helped my dad out with a few bits and pieces, I'm like, that's a past version of myself. I am here to help people. Honestly, it's hard to imagine what I'd be doing if I wasn't helping people.

In the script writing business, they'll tell you, you'll ask someone who's a professional script writer, hey, what should I write about? What movie should I write? And they'll say to you, you should only write what you know about. And that's really what you've done. You've taken these creative tools. You fell in love with CrossFit. You became a head coach.

You were offered the job of running the entire gym. You did it. And then you needed an outlet to be creative. And you started doing it. And you did it with all the tools available to you in these modern times. You should be stoked. You've landed where you're supposed to land. 100%.

I mean, I've gone pretty much all in on it. And even though there are times they get tough with coaching in a gym or whatever, I know there are times they get tough with coaching in a gym or whatever. I don't see myself changing direction or going in the opposite direction at least. I definitely see myself putting my head down harder and sort of keep on pushing. Hannah B., Greg, do you have one piece of advice for Zachary Cadets? Yeah, Zach, just keep doing what you're doing. Stay out of construction. I'm not

stopping, that's for sure. I'm not stopping. There's this, I told a story the other day, I wanted to share this with you too, Greg. My mom was a divorce attorney and people would get married, right, because they're in love and then they would get

a divorce because of money. And you see that in the CrossFit space too. You see people open gyms because they're in love. They have this crazy passion for CrossFit gyms, and then they have some sort of financial hiccup, and they lose the gym, right? And I know she asked for Greg's advice, but my advice to you would be like never get greedy. Just keep your head down and keep grinding. I've seen so many people around me think that they're going to monetize something before Greg used to call it. Don't reach your, let the golden goose lay eggs

on its own time. Don't reach your hand up the golden goose's ass and like try to pull one out before it's like ready. Dude, a hundred percent. And I mean, I will never sort of cut myself short. I'll do what's right for me. But there are so many times in my life, even though I'm only 31 years old, that you're presented with choices and taking the high road or, you know, is the right choice or you're always presented with a choice and you know what's right, you know what's wrong. Take the right choice. right, you know what's wrong, take the right choice. I can do a better job of Hannah's question, but I've broadened the scope of things considerably in doing this. But by 2018-19, I realized that HQ was fundamentally irrelevant to the affiliates,

that the overwhelming majority of the beauty of the entire thing sat with the affiliates and their relationship with their clients. And the only role I can imagine of being any value, and again, I put myself in the position as an affiliate, what would I be looking for? And it was those things that I couldn't do for myself. And it would be continuing ed, education, validation, litigation and legislation, defense against legislation and offensive litigation and and we focused on that and did well and i thought that was the the value proposition of affiliation currently the mothership isn't doing any of that i don't see them active in defense against legislation in fact I think that they fundamentally rolled over to NSCA and ACSM, and there's no more powerful evidence of that than settling of that lawsuit on the secret.

The continuing ad is now at CrossFit for Health, and it's conspicuously devoid of any of the in-your-face Zoe Harcum, Masa Malhotra kind of stuff, Tim Notes, Gary Fetke. Harcum, Massimo Hoxha kind of stuff, Tim Noakes, Gary Fetke. So there's been an abdication of things that are really valuable to the affiliate, and that creates an enormous opportunity. Someone could just step up and take the affiliate program from HQ. What they're trying to do is figure a way to skew out all the chips. Do you think Zachary should do that? Well, I'm not saying he should, I'm saying he could and be proud of it and enjoy it along the way and it would inevitably monotox.

Someone's going to form some equivalent of the association of the professional trainer and the affiliates are going to turn into associates of the professional training arm. And I don't think they're eager to sell, if they are eager to sell, dumbbells and jump ropes and become a franchise. Unbelievable. I mean, the amount of energy I took to avoid even the appearance of franchising and to see them now leading with that, it's unthinkable. So a crazy opportunity sits here for anyone that's interested in the space, tense opportunity. And my non-compete ends next August. I would love to lend a hand for free for anyone that was interested in validating the approach, continuing the education.

And again, along the exact lines of things they don't want to share, which is the corruption that American Beverage Association and food industry has taken over the fitness space. And again, I sound like a broken record but uh there's an opportunity here for someone zachary dude good to have you on the show brother you to ma'am i deeply i gotta have you on again too i deeply apologize that we we screwed the time up for you thanks for whatever you had to move around it to get to stay on no that's right i'm actually on leave at the moment with the baby so i've got a lot of time on my hands other than other than i just had my first grade so she a little i just had my first a little girl 11 days old yeah oh my gosh it's it's it's an honor to have you here in that in that light what's your name zimmy may cadets zimmy zimmy may cadets beautiful congratulations sir that's a

unlimited untold joy there and as seve will pass on contact information uh if there's if there's any ever anything i can do for you i I'd be honored to lend a hand. Yeah, much appreciated, Greg. Thanks for having me, Savon. All right, brother. Talk to you soon. Thank you. I'll catch you later, man.

Thank you. Zachary Kadatz. What a good dude. He is a good dude. I love how much he contributes to the community. He's a great dude. much he contributes to the community he's a great dude hey there was this video that andrew hiller made it was pretty poignant it was basically it was it was like a it was like a um uh allegory he was

basically saying if you're if you're a cookie maker and you're the world's best cookie maker and you wanted to sell more cookies, what you would do is you would make better – even better cookies and more cookies because that's what you know how to do. And you would just keep adding value to the quality of your cookies. And then he shows basically the two guys that they've hired, Josh Grau and this de Koonz guy. And he's like, what? They're not cookie makers. They're marketers. Right. They have no understanding or no appreciation or no. They haven't they haven't had time to become immersed in and know what CrossFit is. Right. And so he's like, what are they going to offer to the cookie maker to help him sell his cookies? And I thought, wow, that's that's that's that's really that's poignant. That's basically what you've been saying all along. But he but he did it in like this allegory.

Did you ever see the video? No, but said he lost me a point. Oh, so I have to offer this quickly. You remember what you remember? Blockbuster video where they had all the videos on the on the shelf all lined up yeah yeah you remember that yeah yeah we used to play this game where you could point to any video and what i could do is and then point to any other on the opposite end of the store and and i would if if it used if it was a poignant tale, it used the word poignant, or there was an explosion or tits on the cover, I could get you from one to any other because three quarters of the shit in there

was a poignant tale with explosion and tits. It was crazy. Fair. Let me, are you on a computer? Yeah. I'm going to play this is it okay is it this video oh yeah you're good no no it's it's on instagram it's it's kind of it's kind of a remarkable a little piece of work i don't think it's mean either um are we racing? Yeah. Oh, it's his most, it's his most, it's his second one.

It's the second one. It's the one that's over the girl's head, over Alexis's head. Imagine you are the best baker on the planet. People come far and wide to sink their teeth into your scrumptious, sugar-dense treats. One day, you find out that you are a bit short on rent. Being the best baker on the planet, there was only one option. Make better cookies. The cookies were undeniably good. Word of these cookies spread like wildfire. Rent was no longer an issue. Your only problem now was to be sure that your cookies endured the taste buds of those newly acquainted with them. Now, imagine you are not

the best baker on the planet. Come to think of it, you aren't a baker at all. You aren't even sure how you ended up with all these cookies. One day, you find out that you are a bit short on rent. You are left with one option. Market. But how do you market for that which fell into your lap? Google's. What is CrossFit? I love this part. He basically is making fun of them because now on the CrossFit page, they're calling it high-intensity functional fitness. And he's saying that's how you market it if you ask Google how to market it. So he's basically saying they hired a guy as their chief marketing officer,

this poor guy. And he's not a Cross he's not a crossfitter he's not a cookie maker so like what what value he's gonna add he's not gonna add any value he's just gonna try to sell you shit i attended a symposium held by the marine corps on functional fitness one year and was invited by my friend Brian McGuire who was head of training and education command T-COM. What year? 12 years ago. It was in

Quantico, Virginia. I sat there for a day listening and everyone was there representing functional fitness. And we had the rubber band people, the Swiss ball people, the TheraBand, everyone was there. There were chiropractors and physical therapists. Everyone was doing functional fitness. And at some point, I think on day two, I raised my hand and I said, we're all here supporting and promoting functional fitness, but I'm looking at all this shit and none of it seems functional to me, from my sense of it. And the problem was, is that functional fitness is like equity.

You feel good when you say it, but no one's got any fucking idea what it means. You feel good when you say it, but no one's got any fucking idea what it means. And so I said, when we're using a word and everyone's nodding and we're all hearing something different, the word has no definition. Everyone in here is a fool. What's lost is that I define functional movement as those movements that were initially they were universal motor recruitment patterns found everywhere. But then we had some weird things like this bicycle and the rower that we used extensively, and they're not universal motor recruitment patterns. They're rather odd motions, in fact, in terms of what you might find in nature. But they did have something in common with thrusters and pull-ups and throwing a ball, and that is they were categorically unique

in their ability to express power. And so we broadened the scope of functional to include anything that required an inordinate amount of power, that is, it moved large loads long distances and quickly. And therein lies the physiological response, and it was the justification for cycling and rowing in the prescription. It was the amount of watts that could be expressed doing so. And they're going to give all that up to be trendy. And this is what happens when you bring MBAs in. It's Q1, 2, 3, 4, I've lost interest in terms of what's going on.

It's a focus on a bottom line. It's short term. And when it all fails, you sell the fucking thing and try again. And when you say give up, you mean give up that real estate, that ownership of that space? Just sell it. Just sell the fucking thing. If you can't. If you beat on

the cow and if it doesn't start shitting golden eggs, you get rid of it. Anthony Martorano, I just watched a video where Greg told this exact story. What a pleasure to watch it live. Categorically unique in their ability to

produce power. Is this the meeting where Travis Bajan said that's the most intense room he's ever been in without actually a punch being thrown? Was that? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. That was where we... I didn't want to go through.

No, that was at the military war college in Bethesda, Maryland. Is that where the Pentagon is? No, it's north of the Pentagon. Oh, okay. It's part of that whole conglomerate of cities that are military installations, though. It's where the military's medical school is.

Ushers. Yep. Yeah. That was, can you tell that story of what happened in that room? That's where I found that Patty Deuster and the like had produced the high intensity, the dangers of high intensity functional exercise, to which our response was Jeff Glassman's in answer. functional exercise to which our response was Jeff Glassman's in answer. Right. And I had heard, see, I'd been confronted by affiliates that were that had cozied up to to DOD folks. And they said, hey, the army has a study that CrossFit's dangerous. And I was asking my army contacts and they said no such study exists. And they were correct. No

such study existed but what it was was a consensus paper where they brought in all their hacks from industry and they wrote that um there has been a a rapid interest in high intensity uh exercise and it has led to unprecedented injuries. And when you looked at the reference there, it was all to the knee, almost entirely. And it was also commensurate, dramatically so, with the difference between garrisoning people absent war and deploying them in times of war you get knee tweaks and and you dig even deeper it turned out that basketball was the culprit for a lot of that absolutely so they're putting guys out and they're putting guys in garrison in in in bagram and balad and and the likes and uh they're out of out of the sheer boredom interspersed with the moments of

unprecedented terror, they're playing basketball and getting hurt. And so we took the hit on that all by innuendo. And I saw that thing, the report, 10 minutes before we went on. And we're all sitting there at the table and Jimmy Letchford, he's the one that should be asked about this. But I looked at the paper and I read the thing and I was like, Holy cow, this is what they're talking about. These fucking pieces of shit. And so I, Jimmy, who are these people here? And he starts introducing me to folks and I go, no, no, no.

I want to know who this is, who this is, who this is. The people are not a table with them in a small, in a small. Yeah. And they're, and they they're and they're going well that's patty doyster right there and this is so and so and so and so the authors of the paper were all there at the table and i was like you fucking pieces of shit how fucking dare you and then they got people on it just it was it was gnarly and travis bajan was in the room tyson bajan's uh father yeah travis said that was the most tense thing he'd ever witnessed without a punch i lost my mind i thought i was going to have to be physically restrained from crossing the table did the meeting adjourn

oh they told me i was overreacting getting too excited and they didn't mean anything and it says right here in the paper that this isn't peer reviewed, blah, blah, blah. But it was a funny thing. It wasn't peer reviewed, but it was a consensus statement. And of course, Brian McGuire from TCOM is sitting there. And he's like, I told you he'd sue. Well, I couldn't sue because it was commissioned by the DOD. And here we were at the Military War College. And I think that was all very, very deliberate. But this was Gatorade having its way with the clowns from the ACSM and the NSCA um embedded with the DoD uh Greg Caleb as you remember was a a nurse in the Air Force and he was deployed overseas for for a large chunk of the show where he helped us with the show. But Caleb,

were you going to say something about basketball injuries? Yeah, I would say probably once a week we were going to the basketball court because somebody rolled their ankle, twisted their knee. Oh, like it was the same thing. And those people, they would hurt their ankle or whatever, try to rehab them for a week and then they get sent home. But you have like, it's just a constant stream of that. People just think that they can go from doing nothing passing a pt test once a year training for a month and then start getting into training again and so you just yeah it still holds true today even back from 2012 to now it's the same basketball is gnarly and twisted knees and rolled ankles are serious injuries i mean it's uh it's pretty bad jethro cardona just opened up a crossfit gym this week congratulations

jethro uh this is the most cnn i've watched in years uh greg are you trying to um get the mind virus back there you know what i can i can watch that shit and glean the truth from it. And so it's like reading New York Times. No, I have no problem figuring out what's really going on. And I hate it. I hate them. But I watch. Yeah, good on you. I think it's good to get a little dose of it. You know what's wild? HQ has never affected our gym as a whole, Madison Perkins says,

outside of our coaches and their knowledge. The new people could change that by requirements. Is that something that's coming? Question mark. Meaning, I'm going to paraphrase. The only thing they have to offer is the one thing they cannot protect. Five things. Methodology, validation, education, legislation, litigation.

I'm guessing this, Greg. If I can tell you to hang something up in your window, then I have a little bit of control over you. And that makes it so if I can tell someone – if I walk up to a guy and I'm like, hey, you want to buy these 10,000 gyms? And they're like, what are you talking about? What can they do for me? I'm like, nothing. But if I say, hey, you want to buy these 10,000 gyms? Oh, I can make them hang anything they want in their window 12 months a year. Now I've added value to my sales. So what I'm guessing is, is that they're, they're trying to get a little bit of control over the gyms to make them more valuable. That's my analysis. The eight or 9,000 CrossFit gyms

represent eight or 9,000 points of presence. And the goal for any self-respecting MBA would be to turn those into points of sale. And there's going to be zero business interest in any support of the affiliates that doesn't turn into powerful revenue stream. Not zero. And it turns out there is no thing that you can do to support the affiliates that has a revenue stream. They're all expenses. You're not going to make money litigating.

You're not going to make money fighting legislation. You're not going to make money continuing education. You're not going to make money validating the efforts. Those are expensive things to do. It's decidedly an anti-MBA kind of thing, the entire organic structure of CrossFit. And they're going to bring in one MBA after another. They're all fucking half-wits.

Let me go back to this simile too. Don't forget you as an affiliate owner got into this because you love CrossFit. And they got into it to make money. I don't mean that as anything derogatory towards them, but it's different. And remember what that does to marriages. You love CrossFit for the impact it has on the people you get to work with. And what you're doing is you're making an honest living, having the most important and profound impact on the people in your community of any profession. most important and profound impact on the people in your community of any profession.

I mean, if you think straightening teeth is enjoyable, and it would be, it is. It's a valuable contribution to the community. And so is being a psychiatrist or a priest or an educator of any sort. But what happens in the CrossFit box is entirely other. And the love you get and the compensation and the whole of it makes it a rather remarkable uh occupation hey natalie natalie bates from the formerly great state of washington uh hi guys i'd love to get crossfit into the navy pt their standards are pathetic ask the army first the art i mean there's good there's there's a bright light in the army with the training department what dave's doing with the army i'm hoping that they start passing along to the air force because it's i mean any of the branches honestly i think it's a great experiment you're you're giving all these soldiers l1s for one the military doesn't give you anything

certification wise so unless you have like some sort of medical job or maybe some com jobs like cyber stuff but you don't get anything that you can use outside of the military unless you're an officer really so giving somebody an l1 automatically makes you viable in personal training anywhere. Caleb, we had sent from Moffitt Field 25 or 30 kids to Lackland to go out for the pararescue program there.

And I don't remember the washout rate, but it's very high. It was something like 70, 80 percent. And they all passed. And and Josh ended up the honor grad for the for the course. And that really it really turned some heads. And so we had in a program where 70 to 80% wash out, we had a hundred percent of 30 pass, including the honor grad and Josh Webster. And it was interesting because he rolled his ankle with a leak left to go. And that would normally throw you out and they're going, not this guy, we're not losing him. So they changed their own rule to keep him in. But I got contacted by guys at

Fort Collins, right? And medical people there, and they're like, hey, congratulations on this. What we'd like to do now is prove that it works. Like, what do you mean? And they were talking, they were looking for some in vitro substantiation of what had happened at Lackland. It wasn't good enough to say,

we lose 80%, we kept 100, this is our program it was crazy i mean wildly disheartening for me to see that there's that kind of gap between between reality and uh but that's that's what broken science looks like by the way you're receiving the proof right there yeah yeah right right you've got to listen take take one of these and it cures your disease. And now what we need is a study that shows it works. Right. It's like it doesn't have to be formalized for you to know, hey, this is it. And by formalized, I mean it's nonsense.

It's whatever arbitrary rule set that you're providing for another study to try to replicate it. Right. Hey, have you ever taken a large dose of vitamin c you know of the diarrhea yeah oh yeah you have to take a really large dose no i don't know what's really large not that many not too many handfuls you probably take like two emergency packets and it's that's enough to i feel like i have to take i feel like i have to take like two emergency packets and that's enough. I feel like I have to take over 10,000. Oh, yeah. Yeah, okay.

It's not that much. What are they, 2,000 to a capsule? I have 1,000 to a capsule and I'll take four at a time, six times a day when I'm sick and I won't get diarrhea. But not all at once. Yeah, do take five, four times in a day. And then as you're sitting there spraying out your ass, pull up vitamin C and gut motility, and you'll find Google comes up as there's no scientific evidence

to support the vitamin C as a laxative. Right past that is all the people explaining their experience. I ate a jar of chewables once as a kid and I spent an entire day in the bathroom. The entire day. I had a whole jar

of those. They tasted good, huh? Yeah. Yeah. Just crazy. Like Flintstones vitamins. My mom's going to call me later. I didn't know that happened to you.

I had a cousin at three years old, take a hammer to the childproof cap, orange flavored, bare aspirin and poison himself with aspirin. Oh, wow. Oh my God. Wow. I remember those little orange ones oh those are delicious right did they survive did they survive yeah he yeah he did fine family full of physicians they saw the broken aspirin bottle and off he went

um there's a lot of um let me stick with the army question and then there's a lot of questions about carbohydrates in here um uh let me ask you this by the way real quick totally off subject a guy called in this morning sounds like a healthy crossfitter eats right didn't get vaccinated never smoked in his life 46 years old c Caleb? Yep. And he... His chest was hurting for a couple weeks. Finally, his wife took him and said, like, hey, you got a good CrossFitter. You got to go to the hospital.

They do a CAT scan? MRI on him? MRI. MRI on him, and they find out he has pulmonary embolisms. Or blood clots in his lungs. I think it was edema and infarctions um any any thoughts on that that's not that's what would cause that but that's not like i was just digging around and talking to people and they're like it's not uncommon and that shit can go away do you have any thoughts on that he was looking for a cross-training doctor what yeah i

no but i i would go to mike emery at the cleveland clinic mike emery at the cleveland clinic yeah that's where i would get myself formerly of indiana university he's in charge of sports medicine at the Cleveland Clinic now and a devout CrossFitter. He's probably dealt with more CrossFitting heart attacks than anyone and by far. His opinion is that people are surviving heart attacks if they wouldn't have survived had it not been CrossFitters.

Yeah, there he is. Wow. You brought him to Africa. He's been around with us a lot. He's there he is. Wow. Oh, you brought him to Africa. Oh, he's been around with us a lot. He's a good, good dude. He's a brilliant physician. Yeah. Big Crossfitter.

I mean, people have called him from the emergency lane of the freeway having a heart attack. Wow. Yeah, his wife made my kids hats when they were born she sewed them knitted them it's a great family yeah he's got a pack of amazing girls all great dancers hey doesn't he um i thought he lived in montana didn't we visit him in montana once too we went and saw him in indiana and he's now in cleveland wow if you see someone works at the cleveland clinic they probably live in cleveland We went and saw him in Indiana, and he's now in Cleveland. Wow. If you see someone who works at the Cleveland Clinic, they probably live in Cleveland? I know that's a dumb question, but... I think so.

I think he pretty much obligates that. Okay. Albert Liu. Any Army soldier, Army Ignited, they get 4K and credentializing assistance every year. Oh, that's interesting. That's the program that CrossFit's teamed up with. And Airmen, Air Force Cool, can use credentialing assistance to pay for CF courses and even the Pose Method course. Oh, that's with Romanov.

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if they're still even teaching zone i was told that they're not even teaching zone at the l1 anymore i don't know if that's true we'll find find out in January. You're going? Yeah. You're on you. Someone recently made a deal of zone versus paleo. And that was never, you know, look, people have trouble with the zone because you have to do arithmetic. and that's beyond the capacity of, sadly, too many people. We just took the good foods, bad foods chart and crossed out the bad foods and said, pin this on your refrigerator, eat from the good food side. It's arbitrarily a 50% GI, glycemic index, cutoff. You look at it, and basically now you're paleo. So if you can't do arithmetic,

eat from the good food side of the good foods, bad foods list. And it's you're left with broccoli and chicken and asparagus, Brussels sprouts and beef and salmon and the rice, potato, pasta and shit gone along with the legumes. And I think some of them sit on one side, some on the other. But anything that gets you to reduce your carbohydrate intake, I'm in favor of. And so when my stepbrother decides, figures out that if you don't eat white foods, you get skinny, I'm just letting it go. And I'm like, well, he's throwing out the milk. You don't need to do that. But we're not going to go there.

He's found a paradigm that tossed out the sugar, rice, and flour. And so he can think forever that white foods are a problem, and that's great. Stay on that. I'm entirely non-doctrinaire on that. I don't give a fuck how you reduce your carbohydrate intake. And I can give you some metrics. I mean, you want an A1C that's slammed low. You want triglycerides that fall off the chart to the point of not being measurable, especially as a ratio of them to HDL. And if you want to go the inflammation, right, how about if your ratio of EPA to arachidonic acid or arachidonic acid to EPA is less than one? And you're not going to do one of those without doing the other two. So pick the one that works for you.

It really doesn't matter. But the truth is it happens at the refrigerator. It happens at the fork. And what you want to do is figure out some stratagem that reduces your carbohydrate intake. reduces your carbohydrate intake. And, you know, I was explaining this to Maggie the other day, the, the diagnostic gold standard for, for diabetes is, is A1C. And your A1C, your glycated hemoglobin, glycosylated hemoglobin is just the amount of sugar that has been covalently and permanently bonded to the surface of the red blood cell.

And that is a, is a direct function of what your average blood sugar has been for the night past 90 days, which is the life of your red blood cells. And so to not understand in the diagnostic standard that reducing your blood sugar is going to kill your diabetes. that can only happen through deliberate fraud. There's evil forces at work there. The diagnostic standard tells you what you have to do. I've got to lower my A1C to not be a diabetic.

What is A1C? It's how much sugar is glued forever to my red blood cells. How did that happen? Elevating my blood sugar. How did that happen? Elevating my blood sugar. How does that happen? With carbohydrate. And it couldn't be simpler. The fix couldn't be more obvious, scientifically, logically undeniable,

and yet it's a fucking medical secret and even debatable. Debated. Not debatable, debated. Debatable. Debated. Not debatable, debated. You're not going to get a fix in that from the CDC. Not going to happen.

Not with pharma and soda controlling the CDC, and they do. Remember, the CDC was founded on a grant from Coca-Cola. They gave them the fix. The property, yep property yep oh and they've never let go and then just go look at who the board members are of the cdc and where they used to work before where they work now and you'll see this crazy cross-pollination between soda pop and revolving door you know you can imagine. I was I was telling Axel Pfluger that CDC is in denial as to the causes of diabetes. And he was saying, look here in this boldface inset was that you have to reduce the the intake of sweets and confectionery, cakes, cookies, whatever the thing was. But then in the text you read and they say that sugar doesn't cause diabetes. Sugar causes inflammation.

Inflammation causes diabetes. So that was their number one diabetes myth, that sugar caused diabetes. And that's a lawyer's lie. That comes out of a marketing department. No scientist worth a fuck would ever do anything like that. I'm looking at the board of the directors for the CDC. There are some funny fucking people on here. I just Googled, does sugar cause diabetes?

And this is what came up first. Though we know sugar doesn't directly cause type 2 diabetes, you're more likely to get it if you're overweight yeah yeah hey look at the wikipedia article on hyperglycemia it is it has um aspire on its point what my father called a cones resting um on its pointy end rather than tipping over. And the line there, I don't know if it's been changed, but it clearly had suffered the handiwork of Koch scientists. And what they said is that some people are genetically unfortunate and that they develop, they become overweight,

and the overweight creates insulin resistance and you know I just everything but everything but considering that you might have gotten your elevated blood sugar through your pie hole which is really a really a challenge to present and I would show doctors that I go look at this article on fucking hyperglycemia and they'd go, but that's not right. It's exactly wrong. And I guess that's why I'm showing it to you. Acute episodes of hyperglycemia without an obvious cause

may indicate developing diabetes or predisposition to the disorder. Okay. Obesity has been contributing to increased insulin resistance in the global population insulin resistance increases hypoglycemia because the body becomes oversaturated by glucose

insulin resistance desensitizes insulin receptors preventing insulin from lowering blood sugar levels oh and there's medications you can take preventing insulin from lowering blood sugar levels. Oh, and there's medications you can take. Of course. Even antipsychotics.

Goodness gracious. Everything but stuff in the pie hole with sugar. That's the one thing that's not gonna you mean if i stop eating this family-sized bag of peanut m&ms i'll stop having diabetes yeah and i go what else you got it's got to be a pill uh albert lou i'm accompanying dr romanoff going to Army post teaching soldiers how to run. It's cool. Thank you, Albert. Say hi to Nikolai Foreman. I was just talking about him last night.

You were? Yeah. With Margarita? Yes. You'd be amazed at the number of Russians working at the Four Seasons here in the Seychelles. No shit. Of drafting age. Oh, wow. Really?

It's weird how that works. I said, well, it's better than being in a war, and Dimitri says, what war? Oh. The special military operation? Yeah, you can go to jail for saying it's a war.

Anthony Martorano. i was just watching greg's lecture on hyperinsulinia and the deadly quartet yeah uh what was it july of 89 in the archives of internal medicine norman kaplan published a piece that was, he said that there was a confusion as to what caused obesity because of the time ordering of symptoms. causation where it wasn't real and the causal mechanism of increased triglycerides hyper cholesterol emia hyper triglyceridemia and upper body obesity was was insulin controlled by blood sugar and I was like holy cow this this explains our results we cut people's blood sugar, and what happens? Their triglycerides fall. How do we cut their blood sugar? Reduce the glycemic load. Reduce the carbohydrate intake.

And what you find is without any lab work, what happens is that without any theory or need for theory, what you'd see is that their triglycerides would bottom out and obesity everywhere would diminish. And cholesterol levels would assume that 162 for the milligrams per deciliter for the blah, blah, blah. I'm tired of hearing myself talk about this thing. Hold on. Hold on one second it's so good though but listen this is the word that greg just used the idea post hoc ergo proctor hawk fallacy is that latin the post yeah after this therefore because of that

oh okay the post hoc ergoHogg fallacy assumes a causal relationship between two events or states based on chronological succession alone. And they then give an example. One second. I'm going to fire up some hot water. Keep going. Okay. A tennis player won two games in a row

and also happened to eat chicken the night before each game. From then on, he decides to always eat chicken before his games because it seems to cause him to win hey dude and they don't want it what happened is the clinicians were seeing that you know the you go to your doctor for your annual checkup and you're 10 pounds heavier and uh next year you're another 10 pounds heavier. And then the next thing you know, you're constantly thirsty and got other problems. And then they figure out that you're diabetic. And the assumption was that obesity was causing diabetes. And what Norman Kaplan said, no, obesity was just one of the early manifestations of hyperinsulinism and at the causal basis for this.

It's a wonderful, wonderful study. One of these things so powerful that the only way you can really deal with it is to ignore it entirely. And that's largely what happened. What was the study again? By the way, Norman, what was it called? The Deadly Quartet. The Deadly Quartet. Yeah.

July of 89, Archives of Internal Medicine. By a guy that has... I know people that believe he should have gotten a Nobel Prize for that work. I mean, it is profound, very straightforward, well-argued, and clinically one of the easier things you could ever demonstrate. There it is. you could ever demonstrate. There it is.

I have delivered this personally, printed to the hands of several thousand physicians. Just the opening sentence, the contribution of obesity to cardiovascular risk has not been adequately appreciated because of the failure

to recognize the involvement of upper body predominance of body weight with hypertension, diabetes, and hyperglycerin. Hypertriglycerin, elevated triglycerides. Good, I'll go with that. Even in the absence of significant overall obesity. If you're hyperinsulinemic and have elevated triglycerides and a high A1C and you're not obese, you actually have an increased risk of all-cause mortality or a major cardiovascular event. And it turns out that obesity is a little bit of a release valve, if you wanted to think of it as that way. But I've got family that has heart disease, skinny heart disease, and it's as pernicious as the fat and arguably worse.

Of the manifestations of chronic disease, I would say that obesity may just be, if you're looking at standard deviations beyond normal, that obesity may be the least malign of those. In other words, I'd rather be two standard deviations above normal weight than I would two standard deviations above normal tensive, all other things being equal. So you come to me skinny with malignant hypertension and I'm terrified for you. Frankly, I'd rather you be fat. So if that person were to get

fat, it would probably be the end of them with malignant hypertension. Or, I don't know. I don't know. But I that that it's too easy to look at it you know hypertension is high blood pressure they're they're okay yeah we've got a we've got a host of metrics that that sit nicely on that uh sickness wellness fitness continuum. And what you find is that bone density, body fat, all the body composition, triglycerides, blood pressure, on and on. I don't know of a metric that doesn't sit well-ordered where there's a value consistent with being pathological, a value we consider normal,

pathological, a value we consider normal, and a value that's fit. And they sit well-ordered. And what that suggests is that sickness, fitness, wellness, and fitness are varying degrees of the same thing. Now, each of those things is either a harbinger of chronic disease, A harbinger of chronic disease, a cause of chronic disease, or clusters of chronic diseases are all three. And of those, I think the ugliest is hypertension. From hypertension, I expect retinal myopathy. I expect heart attacks. I expect end-stage renal disease. I mean, the list is, it's horrible.

It's horrible. And yet, not all that obvious, right? The silent killer. The silent killer is all three. It's a harbinger. It clusters. And it's causal. Oh. I never checked my blood pressure.

I can't remember the last time I checked my blood pressure. Keep your, keep your blood sugar low and you don't need to test your A1C and you don't need to take your blood pressure. And in fact, if you're hypertensive, you glycemia, it may just be intractable.

I wonder if nicotine increases people's blood pressure, like chewing tobacco. When I chewed chewing tobacco, that was the only time in my life I ever felt like I had high blood pressure, nicotine. I would assume it would. Because it causes a

contraction of the blood vessels oh yeah the acute effects of nicotine include the constriction of blood vessels and increased blood pressure okay anything anything that's arousing anything that's what arousal and it arouses yeah oh like the sugar fall on that i've never heard it called like that yeah you know who's pushing fucking nicotine pouches greg is um it's fucking breaks my heart uh tucker carlson's pushing him like crazy sponsor i would have to guess he has them everywhere now he's putting them in his mouth he's leaving the nicotine cans these nicotine pouches sitting next to him on tables like wow dude this is it's a it's a really powerful drug hey on a completely different note i have to show you something i'm bringing home what is called i had to get a permit for it pay for it but i'm bringing one of these home

is that a nut test Testicles from a dinosaur. Dinosaur testicles. No, it's the female part of the coconut mare. And the females grow these things that look like butts and vaginas, and the males have things that look like dicks. Wait, knock on that? That grew on a tree? Yeah, it's the largest seed in the world,

and they weigh 40, pounds um when they fall and the female trees are covered in these vagina butt things and the male trees have this thing that looks like oh i had the wrong side and look there's my there's my sticker that gets me out of the country did you find that or did you buy that i had to pay i paid big money for this and look i got the fucking sticker here and a permit to leave the country with it without committing major crimes both in the exportation importation and only grow on two two islands on earth and they're tiny little islands you can walk across in five minutes could you just can you just go outside and find one of those on the ground?

Yeah, you could get caught with it at the airport and you're going to do time. Do they have FedEx there? I assume. I have to carry it back with my permission slip, my hologram sticker, and my fees. Is that a carry-on? You got to have that carry-on yeah I'm

gonna have to carry it on that thing's gonna be actually and show up at customs with it and declare it which is all yeah to my interest in travel but that it's what it is um um but I mean they take you out you go out in the forest And you look at these things Are you fucking kidding me They ask can you tell the male trees Look it up the coca de mer C-O-C-A-D-E-M-E-R

Three words And the male trees have cocks Jeremy World So Greg even trees know men are men And women are women Even trees Yeah God Trees know men are men and women are women. Even trees. Yeah.

God. Oh, wow. Wow. Right? Oh, yeah. I recognize that. Yeah, I recognize. Yes. Wow.

Dude, look at that giant one. that giant one sitting on the beach. Wow, that lady's manhandling that one from Shutterstock. Incredible. It's crazy. Hey, could you plant that thing when you come home or no? No, no, it's been fixed. But the resources within it are amazing. They make a material.

There's a shit that looks like formica that comes out of it that you can actually use to waterproof things. It's just an amazing thing. It looks like a palm tree. It is. It's a cocoa palm. It's a type of coconut that sits on only these two islands in the world. Extremely slow growing and the male part lasts for uh is uh fertilizes gives off pollen for 10 years wow wow that that thing right there sticking out will give out pollen for 10 years

yeah yeah and if you find one at the beach or on the ground you just have to call the government That thing right there sticking out will give out pollen for 10 years? Yeah. Yeah. And if you find one at the beach or on the ground, you just have to call the government. For them to pick it up and like take care of it? Yeah. I mean, it's tightly controlled. Oh, my goodness. What a world, huh? Oh, my goodness. What a world, huh?

Oh, my goodness. It's amazing. Sorry for that interruption. I knew you were perfect for this, though, Seve. No, that's great. Do any trees identify as bushes? A fair question. I like this. They should call it coca de mer and coca de stallion.

That's great. That's great. That's great. They, they brought several for me to pick from to purchase. And there was some of them that didn't have hair. And I said, I didn't want a minor. Right.

Good. Yeah. You don't want it. No, I'm not going to get weird on you. Hey, I'm speaking to that. I was watching, you know you know i think

he's a senator josh hawley howley holly i heard him um uh today doing a cross-examination of a guy who did a report on facebook and it was basically saying that within any seven day period one out of every eight minors has been um approached uh in a way sexually that they didn't that they didn't find i don't know what the word was on facebook and that within their lifetime it was one in three minors and it's probably it's probably four out of five they come across uh joe biden you see nibbled on some little girl's ear the other day. Again? Yes.

Anyway, I was thinking, like, why would anyone give their kid, when you give your kid a cell phone or access to the internet, you're basically giving predators access to your kids. Correct. Yeah. Maybe not a computer, but the internet you're basically giving predators access to your kids correct yeah maybe not a computer but the internet here honey the world now has access to you fuck that but and hey what's crazy too greg is it's given under the guise of safety for your kids because your kids might need to call you you'd be better off if no one had access to the internet in the home than to give your your young kids unfettered access right i agree rambler you're late to the story but since you're first, we will address this one more time. Mr. Glassman, why are you watching?

Just to be accurate, he's not watching it. He has his back to it. I like to know what's going on with the Hive, what they're saying, with all the half-wits promoting. I've got a limited interest in it, but I could write the accurate news copy.

I could write the Epoch Times article from watching the CNN or reading the New York Times. Easily. Easily. It's just everything is the exact opposite of what they're saying. Yay, Lana, Australia. This world is screwed. I just did my CPR test refresher. We did the two-minute CPR assessment, which is compressions and breath, and each person was openly puffed afterwards.

That's out of breath. I love that. Instructor implied that was normal have you ever got cpr on somebody is it hard yeah it's like you're fucking smoked caleb i had a i have a friend that was uh chief resident in trauma at uh San Diego years and years ago. And she said that for the most part, CPR that didn't break ribs didn't work. Yeah.

That was just her, just her observation. If you're not cracking ribs, you're not, it didn't, it didn't pan out. Yeah. No matter how hard you went,

it was harder, harder. Yep. My, my wife has done CPR more times times than i have but she's always telling every time she's had to do it it's broken ribs like lots of them and you're just you're you have to go until you get to the hospital and even then you're riding the gurney into the er still doing compressions and yeah you toast. It's a lot of work.

I mean, especially now when you have people who are morbidly obese and you have to do CPR on them. It's like you're not only are they. I mean, there's more tissue to deal with and you have to go deeper just to be able to compress the heart enough. So unless you have like one of those machines, I can't remember what they're called, but they have those automated machines that'll do cpr for you unless you have one of those you're you're how does that work so it's like it's like a it's basically just like a compression machine let me see if i can you just hold it on their chest and lean on it and it does it pushes back towards you and them at the same time their chest and lean on it and it does it pushes back towards you and them at the same time or you know you like strap it around their chest oh wow and then uh yeah lucas device that's what it is wow whoa you have a backboard and then you have this obviously the actual compression device

that you put over top of them and then uh it just that way you can give continuous compressions without having to change out the person giving compressions and then continuous ventilations as well. Are you telling me that thing's supposed to go over the torso of your average American and that yellow thing goes on their back? Yeah, I mean, you can size it a little bit, I think. Size it a little bit, dude. They probably have extender belts for it that they got from the airline. How much is that thing? 20 grand.

Wow. Look at... Oh, maybe that thing is huge. That thing looks like it goes on the roof of your car next to your ski rack. Holy shit. Hold on. What's that thing called?

I want to see one of those in action. What's that thing called? I want to see one of those in option in action. What's that thing called? A Lucas device. I'm going to go on to YouTube. Lucas device. Wow. Lucas device. Videos.

Wow. This is. This is something else. Oh, yeah. This fucking thing is huge. Oh, you found it already. Damn. You're good 20 grand Yeah, it's pretty crazy They only have a certain amount of them in each department. So you can't

You just don't have them everywhere. There's not one in every room, right? There's not did the Air Force have Right. There's not. Did the air force have those? No, absolutely not. Look at that thing. Oh, they just held the guy up easy. Yeah.

That's not how that's going to work ever. That person's dead weight. I can get a battery for one at Amazon for 975 bucks. Is that really? That's awesome yeah yeah right here just go right to amazon wow hey do they sell the device on amazon gray no i'm looking i don't see it you know one click that thing oh my hey how much was your wood splitter that you have at your house from the one you got from Home Depot? I don't know, but I tell you what, it's worth whatever the fuck it costs.

That's just unlimited entertainment. You should be able to modify that thing, switch the blade out with just a plunger and lay someone in there and just do chest compressions with that thing. I was thinking of the robotic dildo thing, you know, the machine fucker. The thing that Stern used to have? The Sibian? No, not the Sibian. But do you see this? Yeah.

One of those. I thought that's what the Sibian was. That's all electrical. Or vibration, I guess. Oh, it's one where you ride a bike and it gets you? Manual power. Yeah. Yeah.

There is a story that you sent me that I read that I'm so tripping on. I had heard about this lady. that i'm so tripping on i had heard about this lady this lady lived in uh one of the kibbutzes that was attacked by the um by the palestinian guard also known as oh wait shit that's not right sorry vivian silver yeah uh let me see Was sure it was all Israel's fault A friend to all Palestinians Spent A crazy amount of times

Dedicating herself to the Cause of Palestinian liberation And her two sons suspected She was naive They lived in the States No Canada right They were Canadian. Sorry, Canadian.

Canadian. She was Canadian. Thank you. And she was, they thought she was hostage, but the post-event forensic effort that Israel has committed to determined that in the rubble of the fire of her kibbutz, they found her

remains. They found that she was incinerated there at her home. And the sons had her on the phone all the way up to the moment of the phone going silent, and then her phone was tracked back to Gaza. So they killed her, probably burned her alive, might have

raped her, who knows. Use your imagination. It won't be gruesome enough. And then stole her cell phone. So people should, there's a couple really crazy parts about this story. The first part is that it's in the Washington Post. There is no

more insane crazy liberal rag than this. If I am more insane crazy liberal rag than this if if if i am uh there was expectation that she would be the first to be released right because the palestinians had no greater friend and the netanyahu government had no greater credit than this woman uh impossible not to wonder she was a peacenik part of the shrinking group of secular Israeli leftists who believed in a communal living and a roadmap for peace they had been appalled by Israelis

rightward shift and the proliferation of Jewish settlements in the West Bank like Vivian some chose to live near Gaza to be closer to their life's work here's what's crazy it's like the dude eaten by the fucking grizzly bears.

Right, right, right. You guys aren't even going to believe this. She was doing an interview with a radio station when the terrorist fucking came to her house. She ran downstairs into her safe room and she fought with the host of the radio show defending Hamas. What are they called? The Palestinian National Guard, whatever you want to call them. I'm perfectly OK conflating the two now. I don't care. She was downstairs

Defending Them Can you believe that On a radio show And minutes later they fucking Burned her As they're trying to kill her Yeah as they're trying to kill her

She's defending them Hey it reminds me of the We talked about it last week About the lady who was in Germany Who was raped by five guys But didn't want to identify the guys Because she thought it would be racist Or the lady who was

Her boyfriend was killed At 3am in New York City On the streets of New York City We all saw it on video He had his neck slit. She didn't want to identify the killer either because she thought it would be racist. It's like, dude.

By the way, the ice skater's been charged with manslaughter. Yeah, saw that. Did he get his hand in an ovation the other day at the hockey rink? Yeah. Interesting. Fascinating. Yeah, saw that. Did he get his name in ovation the other day at the hockey rink? Yeah. Yeah, interesting. Fascinating. Greg deserves a Nobel Prize. I'm not going to argue there.

Although, we don't want him to get a Nobel Prize anymore. What a disaster that is. This year, the two Pfizer doctors who created the – scientists who created the mRNA injection won uh won the nobel one of the nobel prizes hey you want to get back is is there anything that you um we talked about um some things you're working on in the future maybe as soon as march is there anything that you can tell us about that or that you're ready to tell us about it? Not that it's a secret, but just that, you know, like.

You know, I've made I've made friends out of some of the some of the most powerful minds on where science went wrong, what science is about. Anton Garrett, the PhD Cambridge University physicist who's actually brought E.T. Janes to Cambridge and went as a young man to Australia and met with Stove. So he was friends with both Stove and Janes. And that is just that's just amazing. And I'm going to have him out stateside and uh we're also I think we'll be able to lure out Gerd Gigerenzer but I couldn't surround myself with better company in terms of understanding how it is that uh that uh academic science has so shit the bed and I'm is proud of the potential there and enjoying that work as much as it more so than anything I did in fitness.

I also see it entirely related. The opportunity that was CrossFit came out of an abdication of the truth in the sports science space to both the corruption in two senses, the overt corruption for financial gain of the influence of soda pop on sports medicine at the University, ACSM, NSCA. I'm talking to you again. You're still soda whore. Sue me again for that.

And it'll work about as well as it did last time. And then the other corruption is the epistemic debasement of science by stripping it of the validation phase, which is the predictive strength of your models and replacing that with, again, I just love the phrase, mildly inductive p-values, the inference method favorable to academic science and peer review has replaced predictive strength. And peer review has replaced predictive strength. And it's made absolute shit out of academic science in the spaces of all the social sciences and sadly, tragically, medicine. And it's something that I think we can at this point explain to a reasonably bright 10-year-old with an attention span that can allow you to learn multiplication tables. I think we can explain it. Part of the problem is that science is so fucking simple that you hear it and you just, it kind of goes over the head and you don't wrap yourself around

it. But it starts with an observation. It's a registration of the real world on your senses or sensing equipment. And that observation is tied to a standard scale with a well-expressed error, plus or minus an inch, plus or minus half a gram, we have a measurement which constitute a fact. You project a realized fact on an unrealized future fact as a forecast of a measurement. That's a scientific model. And its quality, its validation,

depends entirely on its predictive strength. That's it. That's it. And that's been lost, unthinkably been lost. It's as simple as off the carbs and off the couch, and every bit is real. And what has been replaced with is really difficult to explain. You end up with the chimera, the mess that is the Wikipedia article on hyperglycemia or the CDC's stance on things. Things get really, really complicated when you venture

forth, committed to doing everything but telling the truth. Wildly complicates the world. That's what's going on. I'm ready to unfuck that now, right about now. To think that I'd have the support of these guys is a dream. And when they come out, what's the intention with bringing them out?

To meet face to face? Yeah. I mean, we've already met. I know these gentlemen I've had, I've had, uh, uh, Emily's met with Gerd on the East coast and,

he's going to be the tough one to get out, but Anton's agreed to come out already. Um, look up Anton Garrett. You know, he's not, this isn't, uh,

it's not, uh, uh, he's not a pop figure, a pop scientist by any means, but the stuff he did with Telescopr, T-E-L-E-S-C-O-P-E-R, is fascinating, with Nino and Neo, a dialogue between two physicists. Telescoper is a, what do you call it when you jumble the letters anagram no what's the anagram no yeah where you where you change the letters and spell something out like the band imagine dragons they're

challenging people to figure out what what the letters form no one's been able to apparently but telescoper is peter peter coles and fascinatingly he's a's a university astronomer, astrophysicist who has a keen sense of where academic science took the deductive his turn and shifted that. Telescope is a blog. Yes. OK. And the guy is a genius of correct and failed epistemology. correct and failed epistemology. Wow. He's a, I've never heard a theoretical cosmologist.

Is there any other kind of cosmologist? He's playing with that a little in it. And it reminds me of the guy who starts being a statistician to the stars the play there is that it's astrophysics of the stars is this guy peter toll is this guy what were you saying about this guy peter coles is he coming as as a no but but anton garrett is and you've met anton he was the brit that was at the at my house in phoenix yes yes event there but we had a guy out of the blue tell us i knew david stove and et james and was friends with both of them and that's just like that's like you're teaching a course in constitutional uh law and a guy knows uh madison and in uh in hamilton you're like what

is he a professor at oxford did you say that yeah okay they got him as anthony garrett i think yes he got his friends call him anton and i pride myself on being able to call him a friend yeah that's cool but it was interesting that because lay individuals aren't contacting these guys and saying hey i understand you know what's wrong i mean it's uh so he found a pop website in the broken science initiative website that was that was promoting stove and et jane's probability theory or probability logic and he's hey i knew both of them we're like is that even possible yeah he did that's crazy it's a that's a small world yeah and he it must be um uh you know i don't know if the right term is gaslighting but it

it must be lonely when you're when you see everyone around you thinking wrong and you're thinking right yeah yeah it's a it's a crazy lonely world he actually made a major contribution up to rt cox's uh cox's theorem which basically demonstrated with mathematical proof eventually that probability logic was an extension of Aristotelian logic where deductive logic was fundamentally a precipitate that came through the defense of the inductive method where in the special case where your hypotheses are either true or false. special case where your hypotheses are either true or false there's a lot there and i'm not going to be able to pull it off here but uh i will be able to put a day-long course together um where i think i can deliver this to just about just about anybody and then the following day have a q a let me ask you a crazy question i know i'm getting way ahead of myself will that become scalable you know i'm gonna we're gonna're going to launch this with some folks like get Jay Bhattacharya and probably RFK out. And, you know, RFK is an expert. RFK Jr. is an expert on the Daubert decision, which I didn't.

Wow. Yeah. Yeah. He's run across that in his work in the Children's Defense Fund that the Supreme Court has its head up its ass because it swallowed Hookline and Sinker Popper's definition of science, including falsification and and peer review. And so we have baked baked into a Supreme Court decision. Shitty science. Let me just catch people up for a second. If I I'm going to give you guys what how I understand the Daubert decision in my head. The Daubert decision was something that went to the Supreme Court, and it basically defined what makes an expert, what allows you to call someone an expert when you call them onto the stand. An expert scientist, yes. Yeah.

So basically there was a fight. One guy was saying, I'm an expert, and someone's saying he's not an's not an expert and went to the Supreme Court and they defined what an expert is. And it ended up just being horseshit and it just made all sorts of people experts who weren't experts. And so it caused a lot, a lot of problems. It's it's it's it's the first time Greg told me that story. I was like, holy fuck, we're in trouble. And it's kind of one of the the legs of this i don't know 12-legged table i want to call it one of the cornerstones of the disaster that is um the the broken science or the ills of modern medicine these terms that greg is a coin but it is one of those legs for sure and i'm looking for there's a paper you can get on dauber by a woman that fully understands it and took the court to task.

Let me see if I can find this. There was a comment in here I want to – I don't even know how to say this person's name. If I knew how to say this person's name, I'd probably read their shit more often. Loda? Iota. Iota? That's an I? Iota. iota iota that's an i iota i actually just realized glassman doing this science shake-up could be even more profound than crossfit because if it leads to an honest science realm

it could save billions of lives yeah thank you that. I just, you know, dislodged from my position on the fitness front, I think in part for venturing into the health space. This is the cause. And I want to find, hit up Emily, have her send forward the paper there's a there's a wonderful piece written on the Dowbridge decision by a woman that fully understands it and I don't want to waste a lot of time here looking for it we can come back to it oh shit I spelled every word wrong in there including paper

okay i'm gonna do it i'm gonna find it hey I just put I put you on that thread too I don't even know if she's awake She's three hours Susan Hack S-U-S-A-N-H-A-C-K And I've read this thing 20 times over the years And

It's brilliant that she has a profound understanding of where the court went wrong even some of the justices contribution to that got some of the philosophy of science completely fucked up legal executive leadership LLC Bethesda

Maryland that founder yeah you want you want hack on the subject of Dalbert. Is it? Oh, Hack It. Is it Hack It? No, H-A-A-C-K. Two A's. Oh.

Yeah. Dude, I want to talk to this lady. I want to hear this whole story on the um podcast this is cool wow here's a reference to the paper but it's mind the circuit courts on a case, and I sent him this, and he actually used it in his brief. But, and there's another paper, even easier read I think than this one But

It was a delight to hear that RFK Jr. Was well aware of the failures of Daubert I remember this paper now I remember that title Mind the Analytical Gap Wow, crazy How do you remember this stuff? This is from so long ago.

Oh, it's so very, very important. What gave a guy like me, oh, I'm sure she is. I feel certain she is. What gave a guy like me the opportunity to promote getting off the carbs and off the couch as a cure to chronic disease. There was a period where I entertained the notion that maybe I was just smarter than everyone else. But the problem was, I was the only one that wasn't on the take. And so, you know, I was, it was more like the, the emperor's new clothing kind of thing. No one paid me off. And so there I was able to state the obvious. But the reason that the truth in fitness didn't come out is because it it ran afoul of academic standards that were controlled by the food and drug industry where you're not going to

get away with telling people that what grandma really needs is to squat and to reduce her glycemic load. And here we are. That awareness even comes as a surprise to pharma execs. I have a specific case of that of a specific CEO of Pfizer thinking he was offline prior to a conference call talking about doing Atkins and all his markers improving, he was shocked by it. Wow. That came by way of Brad Hirakawa. I probably just ruined his life.

He called me stunned because Pfizer was buying his company. stunned because they, Pfizer was buying his company and they were on, on the Cisco conference system ahead of the CEO knowing he's, you're not going to believe this. I'm doing Atkins and all my markers improve. What? Yeah. You know,

like, wow. What a crazy concept. Yeah. It's a crazy world. It's a crazy world. Yeah, it's a crazy world. It's a crazy world. This is how blinded you can be by money to truth. Blinded to truth by money.

It's why an MBA would never think that, why don't we just improve the quality of the product or service? We won't see the difference Q2 or three or maybe four, but it will work. But how can you run a business like that? Can you really run a business creating uniquely attractive opportunities for other people? This was the stunning thing about appearing

at Harvard Business School, that we got to introduce that notion, that business is the art and science of providing uniquely attractive opportunities for other people and has next to nothing to do with money. Yeah, scratch your head. Fuck, you're kidding me. And it was cool that in the space of three, four hours, we could actually change the minds

of some of those MBA candidates at Harvard Business School. What was so cool is the ones that started knowing that 5% to 10% that had already figured it out on their own. And so where I'm at now is I just, you know, look, downstream, we see all kinds of toxicity, dying fish, dying towns, dying kids. And what I've done is put myself at the plant that's dumping the shit into the river. I'm right there.

And if there's ever a need to silence me for all those people that wanted me to shut the fuck up, it's too late. Now I'm at the wellspring of the whole fucking thing. And it's the epistemological basement of the simple

precepts of modern science where thes of modern science, where the validation of modern science, the thing that produces SpaceX, your iPhone, and legitimate cures for disease, those scientific models validate through their predictive strength. It turns out that predictability is the cornerstone for all trust. And the only rational basis for trust in science is the predictive strength. In fact, that is the demarcation and not falsification of science. It's what differentiates science from non-science is the predictive strength of its models. That is the difference between astrology and astronomy.

So you can make the claim that because you're in Aries, you're going to have a big dick. But in measuring it, we wouldn't be able to demonstrate that. But astronomers, they could say that in 411 days, six hours and nine minutes, there's going to be an eclipse of the sun. They have something. That is the demarcation. And yet, go to Wikipedia and look up demarcation problem, and you'll tell you that it's a 2,000-year-old riddle still not solved. What is it to demarcate science from non-science? I'll fix it for everyone right now. Here you go. It's a freebie. It's the predictive strength of science's models they they have unique predictive strength there's no rational trust there's no rational basis for any trust that's not based on

predictability would you need to define unique like with some sort of metric um science produces models that have predictive strength and and and uh when we look at it and i'll just take popper pick science and in uh astrology thinking astrology was bullshit and what his claim was is that falsification was the demarcation. And it was interesting because Kuhn, Thomas Kuhn, pointed out immediately that Hopper didn't even satisfy his own requirement of being able to demarcate astrology from astronomy. So saying that Aries are smarter or Geminis are taller or more congenial is certainly falsifiable, but it is not a scientific assertion. His problem was is that falsification is necessary but not sufficient for differentiation.

And it was the folks at the Vienna Circle, AJ Ayer, I think, in particular, that said that falsification was necessary for a meaningful assertion so that you don't end up debating things like how many angels can dance on the head of a pin when you know one can see a fucking angel or even knows how you go about looking at that. But science has something way, way, modern science has something way more powerful than producing models that are falsifiable, that's a requirement for them to even have meaning, even be sensible is the term. But they are unique in their ability to predict.

We'll be clipping that. That was awesome. Iota, i wish vivek was in your lecture at harvard my only hesitation with him is his silence on food and fitness i i have seen some footage of him doing pull-ups yeah he just he's a stud he just doesn't know he just doesn't know he just has to be explained to him yeah he just you know when i got called before peter teal um he wanted to know so what's going on in you know with nutrition and uh it went on for 30 minutes and right at the point where i'm like oh fuck i need to shut the fuck up he slammed his fist on the table and i fucking knew it you know like i mean we were there. We didn't even have to talk about it anymore.

Jason Williams, I'm not trying to be an alarmist. Greg, what are the chances you'll end up meeting with Vivek? I have no idea, but I greatly admire him. What do you admire about him? He's he's powerful. He's sensible. His criticisms of the Republican Party are profound. I think he misses some things. I think some of Nikki Haley's criticisms of him are a little bit legit.

He seems naive on some things, but he's a very young man. But I hold him in the highest regard. As I do her I like everyone in the Republican lineup with the exception of the angry orange guy Chris Christie you're a fan of him too?

you're okay with him? you know we're down there on the far end of what I appreciate. But first. Yeah, I'm not. You're a good dude. Biden and Trump need each other. Any Republican could beat Biden and any Democrat can beat Trump.

And so they have a desperate need for one another. And what we have to do, and this is a complicated thing for people, you have to pick between two horrors. And for me, it's pretty clear that Trump is the lesser of the two. I find it inconceivable that Trump isn't owned by the Chinese. I know for a fact, I bet the ranch on the fact that they've been giving him money for a long time and i don't think they give money without having the the uh the uh material support to prove they gave it to him and so i think he's in a world of shit with them and they're basically going to do any fucking thing they want he's going to do nothing about it because they could probably trump or biden you said trump biden rather by all right you meant biden okay I want to be clear.

You meant Biden. Okay. Thank you. Yeah, Biden's owned by the Chinese and very likely the Ukrainians. China has given him millions of dollars. We know this for a fact. And they get something out of that. And what is it? It's leverage.

He's doing everything in his power. The Justice Department is doing everything in its power. The mainstream media is doing everything in its power to hide that fact. But the laptop story made that abundantly clear. why all those intel officials had to say it was the work product of Russian spooks, which is absolutely absurd.

No one ever for a moment believed that it wasn't some half-witted chick out there. That comes with a vagina. You know, when you have mainstream media run by girls that

put hearts to dot their eyes you know i mean you got a problem it's a the world's a little more complicated than that oh you're gonna take a lot of hit for that he does i've been canceled i'd say any fucking thing hey listen it's, it's fine. The sexes are different. I prefer it. If you don't recognize that, this is the political correctness that got us to the realization of LGBTQ+. Hey, look up what the Q is

in LGBTQ. It's rapidly becoming questioning. It's now seen as the hint is that it's some intellectual open-mindedness that gets you to the queue. It was queer. They differentiated queer from gay because there were guys like Douglas Murray that held conservative values like log cabin Republicans. They said the only difference between me and other people

is that I have an attraction to males. I still have a normal sense of the world. And the thing is that you have to buy into the whole thing. So it's a homosexual that buys into all of the nonsense. Queer and

questioning. That's what the Q stands for. Yeah. Homosexual wasn't good enough. You have to do more than want a dick in your mouth. You have to buy into the whole party line. Global warming, all of that shit. Anthropogenic global warming. How about Douglas Murray

doing on-the-ground reporting for Fox? That's wild, isn't it? I'm a huge fan of the guy. Me too, but he's too valuable to send over there. Yeah, his PragerU talk on King Lear is just brilliant. By the way, that one is one you should watch right away so if you're like oh man greg said so many things which one should i dig into that one right there is awesome everyone will love that douglas murray king lair watch that that shit will blow your mind okay i want

to ask you this um i want to take a stab at answering this really quick and then and then we'll get greg to answer it jason william, Greg, I don't want to be an alarmist But do you fear getting assassinated For causing powerful people such headaches? I will say this, there was a time When we were pushing up, Greg Was pushing CrossFit up so hard up against Big Soda that going

South of the border wasn't an option I would say, is that a fair Assessment? Because people were being killed By Sugar interests south of the U.S. border wasn't an option, I would say. Is that a fair assessment? Because people were being killed by sugar interests south of the U.S. border. Look up how the unionizing of Coca-Cola bottling plants has worked out for people in Central and South America. It's unbelievable.

Try to unionize the Coke bottling plant, you're going to end up dead. They just come in, the armed guys are coming in the middle of the shift and just blow your brains out right there amongst the bubbles in the sugar. Over and over again. Over and over again. I've tried to imagine what the intersection of cartels and sodas interests would be in Central America.

And you don't have to look too far past the Somozas and Nicaragua. Coca-Cola boycott launched after killing of colombian plant plants trade unions around the world have launched a boycott of coca-cola products alleging that the company's locally owned bottles in colombia used illegal paramilitary groups to intimidate threaten and kill its workers there's a bunch of these stories yeah it's gone on it's elsewhere it's gone on. It's all over. Yeah. Check out sugar cane workers disease. That's another. You're just something else we can't talk about. There was Anthony. Chris Christie could use a nutrition lecture from Greg.

Yeah. You know, I, I have trouble. I have trouble voting for a guy that had to have his stomach stapled to control his appetites. And so I'm worried that he'd give away our nuclear secrets for a box of jelly donuts. You know what I mean? The guy is just like, right? Oh, shit. Yeah. Yes.

Yes. Fair enough. Greg, Trump would truly change the country back quickly? Oh, look, if that's my choice, I'll vote for him proudly, and I might even put a Trump sign in my neighbor's front yard. AZZ, thank you for specifying that you were talking about Biden, not Trump. I was very confused. Yeah.

John M., I was queer for a while. There was the funniest line. No one paid off Trump because he didn't seem to have the brains to be of any value. I mean, no one saw him going anywhere before he was an insufferable fool who became president. Douglas Murray on trigonometry is also good. Yeah, and Islamophilia is also great. that douglas murray does that or that one too yeah it's one it's his book he had a book islamophilia uh greg you're skin and max uh elise miss uh elise car redow greg you're skin and max what year are you from 19 how old are you miss redow skin and

max half the people listening don't even know what that is. All right. Hey, you know, if having that shit on in the background causes people to talk about it in a good, let's talk about it. Yeah. It's absolutely abhorrent. The first time I went over to Greg's house in 2006, end of 2006, he had Fox on and I had never even seen Fox I'd only heard bad things about it and I was terrified I thought I'd fucking walk I thought I was gonna

he was gonna kill me like I walked into the lines and people who watch Fox are bad you can't find Fox in foreign countries but here in like the Seychelles of the of the channel lineup CNN's number two what's number one?

I think it's the Hotel Grounds or something. Al Jazeera's up there. Yeah. Al Jazeera's up there, too. For sure. All right. Hey, thanks for coming on.

Sorry for all the switches, the mix-up with the times today. I don't mind, guys. I'm good for you. It was cool that you got to hang a little bit with Zachary Kadatz. That was cool. What an impressive young man.

Yeah, this community is full of impressive people. He just oozes of sincerity and decency and thoughtfulness. Super cool. Yeah. Super cool. Wish I'd known of them sooner.

The whole time we were talking, I was hoping none of those troubles happened during my reign. No, sir. That was a great solution you had. They should have just given him a courtesy like an affiliate. You're right. So he could use the name. So easy to do.

Remember when Chris Sinaloa started doing the scaling stuff on the main site and comments? Yeah. I made him the official scaler. Right. I still talk to him occasionally. Caleb, thank you, bud. Of course.

It's always a pleasure. I'll see you probably either late night. I'll be coming over to your house on the 18th to bug you, or I'll try to bug you for breakfast on the 19th. We get in on the 19th, mid-afternoon-ish. Okay, bitchin'. Okay, cool. Maybe we even, okay.

Maybe even saloon. And Ron for Thanksgiving and, yeah, all of it. Oh, my kids are stoked about Thanksgiving. Yeah, me too. I'm excited for it. All right. Come with my mom, the whole family, my nephew. Everybody.

All right, dude. Come on. All right, dude. Tell Margarita I said hi. What's up? I sure will. All right, dude. Thank you.

Love you guys, everyone out there. Thanks for enduring us. hi what's up i sure will all right dude thank you love you guys everyone out there thanks for for enduring us greg thanks for sharing your consciousness you're a beautiful human brother it's very kind of you all right guys enjoy your day bye how about how about when um um when tyson said bye to you. I was kind of tripping. I didn't even know he knew my name.

You felt that in your nuts. I knew you did. I felt that. I was holding your nuts when he said it. So I felt your nuts twitch. Somebody DM'd me. They're like, oh my God, Tyson said your name. I was like, I fucking know fucking know right hey that but that

kind of shit like what made me think of is because greg says it too like greg acknowledges you and like that kind of shit you'd be surprised was at a surf competition i was at a surf competition today and there's a cafe outdoor cafe right on the cliff and all the surfer boys are so fucking nice these are like seven six fourteen to eighteen year old boys and they're so fucking polite excuse me hello thank you well you know yeah we sit at this table with you just and it's just like so it just it's nuts it's politeness is just nuts when you see it yeah it's pretty cool sorry emily shit you're awesome hey I want to get that chick on that hack it chick that Daubert case is crazy it's like

it's so awesome our listeners would fucking love to hear the case it's crazy it's like a Gushman novel it looks super interesting I'll have to read it I'd never heard of that before I had to pee so bad that's why I had to fucking be like, alright. Oh, Zach, it was Zach Sullivan's comment was so

fucking, hey Zach, usually when, uh, um, usually when the show's over, I just like, I'm like, later Caleb, and I just run into my house, but I was dying laughing at your at your comment today after the show what i said something like if you if you're if your wife walks on the outside of you on the street she'll look like a hooker and you said my that won't matter

my wife will always look like a hook that's right that's what he said oh my my God. Oh my God. I wish I would have said that about my wife. That would have been awesome. It was so good. I told that lady, fuck you. She's always going to look like a hooker. Fuck, I wish I would have come up with that. Damn.

That was pretty hilarious. Damn, I know. It was so savage. So good. Damn. hilarious damn i know that was it was so savage so good damn i tried to i tried to put it up on the screen but i want to pull that show up real quick is that show already it's up it's live right should be up there yeah let's watch the very end of the show. I'm curious how the show ends like when we'd log out if I still I hit that comment Yeah, dude, that was genius dude Oh, I tried to hit that comment up even after I logged off and I was laughing my ass off. I'm just curious how long

How long it's there no so rinsta was like the real it used to be my private account seven rinsta like the real seven and it was private and then i had and then i and then my my big account that got banned was fake seven but so then once my shit got banned i just made my private account public you can't even see it you can't okay let's play the last bit of the show let's see oh there it is love you guys see you tonight with greg glassman and zachary cadets sounds like a jew boba with Greg Glassman and Zachary Kadatz.

Sounds like a Jew. Bye-bye. Oh, yeah, that's what I said. Sounds like a Jew, and then I hang up. Wow, it's that quick. Wow. Dude, you guys love Kadatz. I didn't realize. Man.

If I'd have known he was going to bring in so much money, I'd have put him on for 90 minutes. The thing was, it was a mess. Zach got just fucking screwed because he was supposed to have his own show. And then I fucked up with the Glassman. Greg was supposed to be on last night, but I was too tired to do the show. I hadn't psychologically prepared myself for it.

I know, Zach is a homie. Shit, I know. I shit the bed with Zach. He deserves better. I deserves better Betty come back on and not that much not that much better don't get weird Caleb anytime I ever say someone's gonna get a part two

or I'll have him back on you should know that like that no it'll be another year Caleb and Sousa Like that. No. It'll be another year. No. Hey, do you remember that racquetball guy that you had on? Oh, yeah. Did I say he should come on back on?

No. A friend of mine, he was the number one, the guy that we had on. he was the number one the guy that we had on he was the number one yeah and now a guy went to college with him and his brother are pro racquetball players yeah and he his brother is now the number one he beat the guy we had on to be the number one racquetball player in the world. Does he want to come on? I haven't asked. Do you want me to? No. Send me his link. Let's look at him.

Is he cool? Does he talk? Sure. He's a sportsman. Of course I'd love to have him on. Yeah. I clicked over to Barbell Spin because they had Adrian Bosman on. Bosman. Okay. I probably need to watch this. I probably need to watch this.

Dude. Can you fucking believe the numbers Brian Spinn has? Look at his fucking shows, dude. Look at the size of these fucking shows he's having. Really? Good. What happened? 6,000, 5,000, 6,000, 2,000, 7,000.

Jesus Christ. He's punching up. Yeah. Crazy. You need to get more people to subscribe. Anyway, I need to watch this Adrian Bosman show. I'll probably have to use this to

fuel the CrossFit Games Update show. Yeah, I did. the games update show uh yeah i did split i did someone criticize someone for saying sportsman earlier today get criticized no take the piss out of um probably that's why it's in my um in my vocabulary it's what they call that's it's like a foreigner term that's why sportsman's like a foreigner term foreigners use it oh we value our sportsmen in call, it's like a foreigner term. That's why. Sportsman is like a foreigner term. Foreigners use it. Oh, we value our sportsmen in our country.

It's like Russians and Irish people use it and shit. Oh, shit. My mom is still waiting to come on after the one night you promised her. I'm still waiting to come on your mom the one night I promised her. Oh, Seve. Oh, God. I hope Jeffrey Gerschfield's not listening. He would be so disappointed.

Miss Riddell, what was your mom going to come on for? I forget. I forget. I don't eat it. I haven't ate at Wendy's in... Wendy's opened by my house when I was like 10, and we probably ate there like every other day for a month and then I never ate there again I loved it when I ate there

but I haven't eaten there in 41 years frosties and fries why did your mom find Wendy's Jesus criminy iota that's so out of character for you to write that i can't believe it are you have you been drinking late night show people are drinking oh here we go wow even world brand setters drinking wow uh i think sebi oh wait what is this uh wendy's nuts smack you in the mouth. I want to know what that's in response to. Seve, do you like Wendy's? Rich is a sportsman.

You pro. The Wendy's joke. Sevan, do you like Wendy's? Wendy's nuts smack you in the mouth. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Wow. You know, Branstetter's on a

ladder right now fucking like pulling nails out of the ceiling his neck is killing him he's like I gotta get this out yeah and he ran down off the ladder while he's working on his house when these nuts smack you do you like Wendy's oh was she setting me up for that did Miss Riddell

set me up for that oh when these nuts oh damn damn unreal setting me up for that? Did Miss Roddow set me up for that? Oh, and these nuts. Oh, damn. Damn. Unreal. Damn. Damn. Listen, guys. Listen, I know, bitch.

Mason said I haven't ate at Wendy's in three days Hey Hi Were you sleeping? No Do you like I was just wondering Do you like Wendy's? Wendy's?

Yeah, do you like Wendy's? Fast food joint? No, Wendy's nuts slap you in the face. Oh my god. Please tell me I'm not on the air. Are the boys asleep? I can't tell you that. Are the boys asleep?

Yes, they're asleep. Okay, I love asleep. Okay. I love you. Bye. I love you. Bye. Hey, there's this friend of mine who's a fire captain in California. And he taught me.

I don't think he listens to the show. He taught me these nuts jokes. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. listens to the show he taught me these nuts jokes next i'm calling Daniel Brandon No I'm going to call Laura Horvat Ask her if she likes Wendy's Damn That's sad Who else could I call

Who I could call Sousa I wonder if Sousa's listening to the show. He's probably asleep too. Why? Because he has to get up at 4 to teach a 5 o'clock class. Coleridge frowning. It's only midnight. Oh, I should. Coleridge frowning. It's only midnight. Oh, I should call Ridge.

Oh, man. Fuck it. Call Andrew. Yeah, that was the next thought. It's midnight there. No, it's not. It's 11. 11.10. Oh, shit. Okay, fine.

11.11. Make a wish. Damn. Damn. damn damn you guys have you guys ever heard andrew hiller's voice machine you guys got to hear it damn i shouldn't have hung up is it good dude it basically says if you don't leave a message i'm not calling you back like it's like and the way he says it it's like he has asperger's you've reached andrew hiller's voicemail if you don't leave a message i won't call you back i thought you should know that thanks i'm every time i'm like oh cool thanks i only call you 15 times a day do you want me to fill your fucking voicemail up that's what i that nobody leaves a voicemail that i

think it's not important enough so i don't call back dude greg leaves me voicemails i'm like he's like the only person yeah because he's from the voicemail when there were voice machines i never leave a voice message like if you leave a voice message it means like like you don't know it's 2024 his are always so nice. Sometimes I just listened to him to feel good. Hey buddy. Hey buddy. Come over.

We're like, all right. I said, she's like, or my sister, my wife's like, who are you talking to? I'm like,

this is my answering machine. All right. Hey buddy. Oh, Matt Fraser's awake with the baby. Call Matt. Oh, God, wouldn't that be fucking, that would be crazy. What an epic moment. It shouldn't be a big deal.

I wouldn't care if someone called me. Who can I get myself really amped up to call? Call Sarah Sigmund's daughter. Where is she at? I'm trying to get her back on the show. Let's find out. Oh, I'm in. I just can't get my mic hooked up from Zachary.

Oh, great show, dude. Great show, dude. Thanks for being so cool. I don't say that to everyone, by the way. No? No. No. Hey, if there's two check marks, that means they saw my note. They saw it.

On WhatsApp? Yeah. No, I think that just means it's delivered. When it's a blue check mark, I think that's when they read it. Oh. Does anyone know? I think Caleb's wrong. Two strikes.

I could call Peter. Oh, is Peter awake? No. No, I don't think so. It's 5 a.m. There. Dallin would love that call. I don't know if Dallin's awake.

I could call Matt Torres. Matt Torres reposted something of mine from the show today. Really? Travis was definitely awake. Travis stays up late as shit. He probably just never sleeps, huh? Yeah, if your son's that great, you don't sleep. You're just like bathing in life.

How great life is. Have you ever tried to get jake berman on i don't know but i like jake berman a lot just he just sold another drink company to another to 7-eleven jake berman did yeah so wasn't he like noah's training partner or something i think I talked to Noah one time in the... Yeah, he's cool as shit. Right. You should try to get him on because he just... I think he just had a deal with

7-Eleven to sell... Like, this is the second brand that he's created around beverages that he's sold for a good amount of money. Wow. But he just works out all the time.

It's pretty wild. I sell drink companies to 7-Eleven and I just work out. Yeah, and goes to Sweet Ragers all the time. Oh, is that it? Yeah Wow God that was like 20 just that's just he's in beaver topia. Yeah, exactly. I Have to pee All right All right.

How about that world? That sound the whole time Zachary was on the whirlybird. Oh, roadcaster got back to me. They told me that these are, these phones aren't having any problem at all. Hooking up to the damn. I would do it right now too,

but I have to be so bad i want to just hang out and do this i want to like i don't want to be in here alone hooking it up i want to hook it up with you guys and have you guys have to deal with me like this boring part of the show let's try it again let's try the roadcaster again okay bluetooth on roadcaster 2 not connected i'll'll click it. I'll touch it here. And it's connected. Okay. Let's do it. And I'll call someone.

I'll call... I could call... Uh... Uh... Let's just see if... Can you hear this? No, shit. I could...

I could hear it. Maybe it's from this... Oh. Can you? I can hear that. You hear it maybe it's from us oh can you I can hear that you hear it in your ear oh I hear it too why is it so low

wow okay okay hold on hold on let me see. Oh, now it's really low, right? Yeah. There we go. Okay. Okay.

Okay. Uh, let me see if I can call someone. Uh, who would I call? Shit. I'll call myself if I can call someone. Who would I call? Shit. I'll call myself. I'll call myself. I don't hear it ringing. No.

It's crazy. It says it's hooked up to the roadcaster too hello hello you don't hear it no okay after the pee I can't do this well thank you anyway for everyone hanging

out with me while I try it one more time all I can hear is the urine dribble from your pee-pee. Great. Love you guys. Bye-bye. Oh, see you tomorrow morning. Dan Thiessen from CrossFit Radio something. Love you.

Bye.