The Sevan Podcast - Jack Della Maddalena | UFC 310
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Bam, we're live.
Can you guys hear me?
Holy crap holy cow my money on 7 what's up Ryan?
Good to see you.
I'm here I'm here.
Boy do we have a special guest tonight.
Boy that was creepy.
Can you imagine I had to to can you guys hear me
probably technical difficulties can you hear me yeah I'm in a hotel someone
someone let me know if you can hear me because I can't hear shit back in this
thing like normally I can hear my voice when I'm at home 10-4 giddy up Thank you a crazy show tonight
Daniel Penny's coming on
You know the guy who? Saved all those people in the subway train. It's gonna be crazy
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Unless unless you don't beat him then interview I did with Jack De La Madelena, then you really missed out. Jack De La Madelena. There it is.
Oh look, Caleb's in the house. Shit, look at that.
What's up, dude? Holy shit. My hotel internet's better than yours.
I'm gonna show you something.
I'm gonna show you something. Madelena there it is. Oh look Caleb's in the house shit. Look at look at that
What's up, dude? Hey, holy shit my hotel internet's better than yours
right I
Want to show you um, I
Want to show you Jack Adela Madelena's
Fight history before he showed up you guys this guy is insane
do i have it let's see share there it is 17 and two i don't know if you remember this but this guy lost his first two fights and then uh you know some people would have retired but this cat
and then uh You know some people would have retired but this cat
This dude went on to win his next 17 fights, dude. Oh my god
Just demolish people too
Yeah, there's submission. Yeah, you ko TKO TKO ko
Ko ko ko. I mean hey, I don't think there's anyone else
12 by KO crazy
He's a he's a trip
When I look at Jack, he's like timeless to me
I feel like he's like from 1950 or something the way he fights and shit like a pugilist
You know what? I mean, like when they call the pugilists and shit like Peaky Blinders type
Say that again like Peaky blinders. Oh
I didn't see that show. It's pretty good
but these the
These these last two fights have been just crazy too with Kevin Holland and Gilbert Burns. I mean, it's like
mmm
Gilbert Gilbert burns fight. He broke his arm
It's insane, Gilbert Gilbert burns fight. He broke his arm. It's insane.
In the first round, like broke it, broke it.
Not like three rounds.
It went, it went into, yeah, it went into the third round.
It was a brawl.
And what's cool is Gilbert can stand up, but he's probably one of the best ever on
the ground and, uh, yeah, Jack got some chops.
And so he has that really bad injury, breaks his arm.
It's crazy.
It's so cool.
I mean, he's got to be fighting for the title soon.
The reason why I have him on is tomorrow night, there's huge UFC fight between Two two of the best welterweights this guy Rob caught rom rom caught Rob caught and Ian Gary the guy from
Kazakhstan or wherever the fuck he's from
the guy took his wife's last name
No, yeah against the guy who took his wife's last name those two dudes are fighting and one of those dudes is 17
I know and the other dudes 15 and oh
Those two dudes are fighting and one of those dudes is 17 and oh and the other dudes 15 and oh
Yeah, this welterweight division is crazy this that's a hundred and seventy one pounds by the way for people who um
Don't know Can we do binge bros instead nuts tomorrow? Oh?
I got a call Hiller and find out when when I'm gonna schedule that
so I call Hiller and find out when when I'm going to schedule that. So I made Jack wait 15 minutes now he's making me wait 15 minutes. I don't know if that's true. I got a lot of fun stuff to talk to you guys about. A lot of fun stuff. Daniel Penny. Are you following that story? No. It's a it's a crazy story. The guy
the guy in the New York City subway. What's up Jack? That's for yeah yeah yeah. How's it going?
What's up dude? Jack, Caleb, Caleb, Jack. How you doing? Good. Can you hear me?
I'm going to go get it. That's it. It's very, can you hear me now? Is it all good?
No, it's shit, but I'm not giving up like I did last time.
That sucks.
I like how you're looking down at the computer like you're going to make some adjustments
on the knobs. It's going to make it better.
I'm going hot spot. Maybe that makes gonna make it better. I'm going hotspot.
Maybe that makes it better for me.
Is that what you did?
You pivoted, you're pivoting to hotspot.
Maybe my Wi-Fi is real bad, but I tried the hotspot.
All right, cool.
I think we did this last time too.
Did we do this last time, Caleb?
Probably yeah.
You were frozen, Caleb, and you're on Elon Starlink. He's in Australia and I'm at the Four Seasons and my shit is tight
I look good, right? My shit's like tight. Yeah, you do look pretty good
clean
Yeah, I shaved my beard up for Jack put on a vest Wow
Look at you. Yeah, my shit's great
The whole Daniel Penny thing is crazy
I know
Fucking beat people choke that guy out that fucking murderous motherfucker on the subway and now he's getting charged with uh murder
You know when the um, the ambulance arrived there that he was still alive. He didn't even kill him
Oh, wow, just unconscious, huh?
Yeah, there was some black lady on the subway. She's hey Daniel Penny's a hero he saved our fucking lives it was scary as shit
Yeah
Jack looks way clearer now
He does. Oh, yeah. Did you just go wash your face? You look good
Yeah, I had a quick shower
Yeah
Hey, dude, do you know when you're fighting next, Jack?
Nothing locked in yet. Nothing locked in. They've got a pay-per-view in Sydney,
which is Feb 9th. And then yeah, maybe then, hopefully then, otherwise, maybe
March at some point, but nothing locked in.
Are they throwing around names?
Yeah there's a few names like some of the guys in front of me like the I guess the more
established fighters in the division like Kamara Usman maybe Leon Edwards those guys
aren't willing to come to Australia.
Sean Brady not come they don't want to come all the way to Australia.
So nothing, yeah, not just trying to figure out where to go. Do I go over,
try and find one of those guys over in the States, maybe March or something, or do I try and get
another guy over in Sydney, but see how it plays out. But there's a few names going around.
Do you feel any rush?
Do you feel any rush?
I mean, the names in this division are crazy.
Ballell, Leon, Kamara, Ousmane, Shavkat, Sean.
Sean Brady's the head of Ian Gary.
Wow, Jack Dela, Matt Alaina, Colby Covington,
Ian, Gary, Gilbert Burns.
I mean, this is such a crazy division, dude.
This is crazy.
Yeah, it's a good division.
There's a lot of younger guys,
even the ones like the number 10,
like their rankings from even 10 to 15
have some pretty good up and coming fighters.
So it's a pretty good division at the moment.
So yeah, I guess there's a big fight this weekend,
which is a, yeah, exciting stuff, which we should open up the division as well.
Yeah. Tomorrow's fights huge, right? 17 and Oh, uh,
Shavkat and then a 15 and Oh, Ian Gary.
Yeah. It's pretty exciting stuff. Jack, would you have fought either of those
guys? Yeah, I was hoping to fight Shavkat, you
know. Had this injury at the start of March. If it all went well, hopefully, yeah,
would have fought Shavkat mid-year, but yeah, had the injury, so just
put me on the the sidelines for a little bit
But yeah, I think I definitely felt both of them at some point in the next year two years
And then those are gonna be those are gonna be great fights, huh? Look at that group I mean, yeah, who do you fight God watching you fight Leon Edwards would be great, too
Yeah, that's a real possibility.
That would be a good fight.
He's a good striker, former champion.
A pretty cool fight.
I think he's trying to fight in March in London.
They've got a big London pay-per-view card.
So yeah, he's probably looking for a partner for the main event.
So that's a possibility as well.
For sure. Hey, what about, what about Colby?
Is he even fighting anymore?
If I feel like he's just kind of fighting Buckley, what Queen Buckley
who's also in the top 10.
Oh, okay.
Buckley is on a pretty good win streak as well.
Number nine.
Buckley might take Colby to be honest. What was Colby's
last fight? Whatever fight it was, I remember there were no punches thrown. Was it against
Leon? It was such a weird fight. It was like a rerouted. Yeah, it was a, it was a five
rounder him and Leon five rounder at some point, probably last year. It was a pretty
boring fight. Not much happened. Yeah. December of last year actually was almost a year. Yeah,
almost a year ago. Yeah, that shit was so boring. That's so
weird for Colby to be in a boring fight.
Yeah, normally. Yeah, the Masvidal fight was a bit
lackluster. But before that, he was pretty, pretty, pretty
exciting fights. I think it was was one fight that was a great fight two of them Colby's kind of like
your weight divisions Holloway not in personality but it's gonna be a lot of
punches and it's gonna be good it's gonna be a fight you're gonna see dudes
just bang it out yeah Colby has a he sets a pretty high pace normally in his
best days he said a real high pace normally. I think he's uh, best days.
Yeah, he set a real high pace and not people not many people could keep up with.
Okay I'm gonna add I wanna I wanna go through your Instagram real quick here.
And um, just as a quick uh reminder of of uh your life in case you forgot about your
life.
Yeah.
Okay.
Hot wife, adorable kid.
Your kid looks like he belongs on like some baby food.
Look at him.
Yeah, I got two kids now.
Two kids.
How old?
I've got the boy, Franco, he's and like four months something like that and then my
daughter is uh four months. Wow congratulations. Oh my god that's crazy. Hey when she was born
did you only have one working arm? Yeah it was sort of uh it just started coming pretty good
when she was born I could lift when she was born. I could lift her up. So it was all right. But that was sort of in there. Yeah, it was in when she
was born. I was like in between operations. So it was a pretty shit time. But same mom
for both kids. Yeah, same mom. She's pretty stoked. All right. Well, that's good. Okay. So the family life is good.
If you're having kids, that means the love life is good. So that's all those are all good metrics.
Look at you here being a dad. That's Franko in Bali went through a holiday.
That's Franko in Bali went for a holiday. And then this guy, did Craig Jones come to Australia?
Yeah, yeah.
He came to Australia, spent a bit of time training with him.
And then also the start of this year was a I went over to and trained with
him in
in Sydney with Alex Volkanovsky
It doesn't look Craig Jones does a lot of work with Alex Volkanovsky
Yeah, it's good to try with him he's a pretty elite cool guy pretty elite grappler as well
Yeah, how is he is he when you train with him?
Is he serious because his persona forward- facing to the world is like so much joking.
Yeah. I mean, he's serious. He's a, he's a, he's very legit grappling.
Very good. And then, yeah, he's a funny guy as a good, good sense of humor, but yeah, he's a cool guy.
But he's very funny. Yeah.
On social media and he's doing big things in the,
in the jujitsu world, ruffling some feathers. So it's pretty cool to see.
Yeah. He gave away a couple million dollars last month. Yeah.
Yeah. That was wild. Hey, how, how was it?
Have you, do you, how often do you go to the ground in a fight?
I try to avoid the ground. I like the striking battle, but I guess it's such a big it's a big part of MMA, you know
So I guess majority of the fights you do I do end up at some point on the ground
It's normally me trying to get up or trying to
land some damage but I like to, I feel most comfortable on the feet, striking, keeping some
range and yeah but it's a big part you know I fight a lot of grapplers, a lot of guys trying
to take me down so a lot of my training consists of yeah a lot of ground fighting, a lot of grappling.
So a lot of my training consists of a lot of ground fighting, a lot of grappling. And when you finished Gilbert Burns, it went from it was on the ground and then you stood
up and then it quickly ended, right?
Is that how I think that's how I remember it.
Yeah, I hit the reversal on him probably like midway through the third round.
And then as soon as it got back to the feet, I was expecting probably shoot another take
now.
So I just came up the middle with a knee and it caught him pretty flush
And and and how is how is your is you feel like your ground game is getting better?
Yeah, I do think it's getting better. I've been well, it's pretty well. I spent most of my time working the ground game, sir
It's getting better. It's picking up. It's getting better. I feel pretty comfortable on the ground
It's getting better. It's picking up. It's getting better. I feel pretty comfortable on the ground
Or at least getting back to my feet if it does hit the ground or yeah, it's been comfortable off my back
attacking submissions
How old are you Jack?
28 Turn 28 this year and so you're still getting better. It's not like you're even maintaining. You're getting better everywhere.
I definitely feel like I'm getting better for sure.
Yeah, it's wild. And the story is, right, you lost your first two fights, then you told your, you got together with your coach and you're like, hey, let's win 10 in a row.
Yeah, that was the,
that was the plan. I lost those two.
Yeah, I lost those first two ones and then,
yeah, we just made it low.
We just sort of set the goal to get to 10 in a row.
Ticked that off, yeah, got ticked that one off the,
the bucket list and then, trying to get to twenty and two now. That's the next goal. She's god. You're on your way
there, dude. Hey, does it matter
to you whether you fight in the
States or Australia like is
fighting in Australia so much
better or like such a different
experience because the whole
crowd stadiums going bonkers. I
mean, it's a different. It's
just a different experience but
uh I like I like going to the US. I like going to the US. I like going to the US. I like going because the whole crowd stadiums going bonkers?
I mean it's a different it's just a different experience but I like I like going to the US I like the travel I like the uh it's a bit of an adventure and yes yeah I don't I don't really have
a favorite obviously fighting in Australia is just a bit easier when it comes to uh like travel
a lot more of my friends and family can come.
But yeah, I don't necessarily have a preference.
I like fighting either.
I fought a lot more time like UFC fights a lot more times in the US.
So I guess when the opportunity comes to have a fight in Australia,
it's sort of it's exciting.
But I like I like traveling as well.
And the fans are better in Australia too, right? I mean, I know that's a little harsh to say,
but they're just, it's just, they're into sports more. They go crazy.
Yeah, they are. They're very into, yeah, they really get into it because they don't, it's not
like they have UFC, especially UFC events. They don't have UFC events all the time, but
the crowd goes pretty wild. They really get behind the, like they really cheer for the
Australian people. And then they like, if there's any Australian guy fighting an out of towner,
they really like let them know they boo, they like, yeah, they're very vocal, which is a cool,
pretty exciting. It's exciting for the hometown guy and the away guy
the big atmosphere hey i mean theoretically you and volkin it could be volkin ofsky
against toporia and you against someone pretty amazing on the same card i guess there too right
i've heard rumors of volkin ofsky fighting ilia there. Yeah, I hope that would be, that sort of makes sense.
I think it's a pay-per-view,
so they need like a title fight, I think,
is how they normally do it.
And yeah, what a fight that would be.
I think that, yeah, that's a fight
that people would get behind.
Australians obviously love to watch Vogue fight.
And then yeah, if I could be there in the co-main
against a big name would be pretty cool.
God, I would love to see you just go straight fight for the title to I
Fight below that would be crazy. Yeah, that'd be no that'd be cool
How are you over at some point this year?
See what happens tomorrow with the Gary chef cat fight
Hopefully if maybe if that's a boring fight they just
Chef Kat fight.
Hopefully, maybe if that's a boring fight, they just.
Try and they try and get a mean below happening before them, but we'll see.
Tell me about this thing.
Oh, that was my, uh, yeah, that was weird. I had this, uh, this, I had a surgery or I had this surgery on the one day and they opened my arm and they like
removed the metal plate that was in there and did some scraping of the bone.
Just got rid of some of the infected bone and then they just instead of us stitching
it up they just put a bandage over the wound and then they gave me this thing was just like sucked out
all the blood. And then two days later they went back in and then they just gave it another
clean out and then put a another plate and screws in the arm and then closed it up. So
I had this little thing on my arm for like two days just sucking blood from the wound.
It's pretty nasty.
It just had like a tube inserted into your arm just draining?
No, no. It was like the actual, my whole, rather than like stitching up my scar,
they just left it open and they just put like a vacuum seal pack on it and then the tube just was in the vacuum seal pack just sucking it.
Oh wow.
It's quite weird. Yeah, really weird. Could you feel it or was it just like you could? the like that. Yeah, pretty much. It was pretty groggy. Jack, you know what I thought that machine was? I thought that machine was antibiotics that were
being pumped into you because didn't you get a pretty severe infection from the surgery?
I actually, I also had that. I had like an antibiotics machine pumping for about, yeah,
I think I had it. Well, I was meant to have it for six weeks. It was just basically, it was a tube
that went up into my arm here and that, yeah, it was meant to have it for six weeks. It was just basically, it was a tube
that went up into my arm here and there.
Yeah, it was just 24 seven, just pumping antibiotics.
But I was like swinging my son on his swing
and his foot got caught on it
and just ripped it straight out of my arm.
Wow.
Yeah, it was pretty wild because the thing it goes like,
if you can see, like it went in here
and then it went all the way over
into like just the top of my heart.
And it just pumped the antibiotics into there.
But then it ripped it out, pulled it straight out.
Because I think that they say like when it rips out,
it felt like I was having a heart attack.
Cause I think it gave my heart like an,
I don't know what you call it,
but it like, my heart just seized up and I felt like I felt like I was
having a heart attack when it ripped out and I had to like hold my arm up and there was
just like blood pissing out of the thing was quite quite for long.
Oh yeah.
But my heart rate as soon as it ripped out my heart rate with I was just chilling I was
swinging my son and when it ripped out I reckon my heart rate would have, I was just chilling. I was swinging my son and when it ripped out, I reckon my heart rate would have hit probably like 180
in like the space of 10 seconds.
And it was just sitting at 180 for like five minutes.
And I was like, I was just thinking like,
what the fuck is happening to me?
And my heart was just like palpitating.
But then yeah, calm down after that.
But it was pretty, pretty crazy.
But then basically it was,
I think I was meant to have the thing in for six weeks. And then that happened.
And then I think that happened to like the four week mark.
And then it was like,
they just sort of said,
we're not going to bother about putting another one in.
So I got out of it, which is a blessing.
That's crazy, dude.
Hey, so what happens after it gets yanked out
and you're in your trip and do you go straight to the hospital?
Are you like honey get the kid and let's go to the hospital
Yeah, pretty much. I was sort of just like I need my wife was like
Freaking out a bit because like my heart I sure cuz I went pay my heart rate was like literally would have been like 180
It was fully pumping
And I just was I just had to take five minutes just to try and lower my heart rate and then we just went to the hospital.
There was no ambulance? Nothing? Yeah. Yeah my wife was getting onto the ambulance but I sort of said
no I don't need it I think I'm alright. She was going to the hospital.
Oh my god. Hey did your,, did your kid know it happened?
Was he like, Hey, dad's bleeding out?
Did your kid freak out?
No, not really.
He was a bit, nah, he didn't really figure out what was going on.
He was a bit confused really.
Just oblivious to it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I can't answer the door.
I'm doing a podcast. Thank you
But yeah, he hated he didn't figure out he didn't know what was going on
Hey
After you take all those antibiotics, do you have to do something like take special probiotics or anything like to get your all your
your like take special probiotics or anything like to get your all your your uh your flora or fauna or
whatever all the stuff that lives in your gut back in action is there like some serious protocol
you have to get on so i thought not too serious but yeah just going into like yeah basically just
going into eating like fermented stuff some things aren't good for the gut so i just avoid eating
that and then just a solid probiotic, basically.
And she loves yogurt.
I spent a heap of time from like March, the start of this year to yeah, probably like
good six months on antibiotics, pretty much. There was a long time to be on it.
Any side effects from that? Anything weird? You feel weak or like your skin break out
or anything like that? Anything weird? You feel weak or like your skin break out or anything like that?
No, not really.
Some like it was the only thing that was a bit weird.
Like my, my skin on my hands was like, it was that peeling off sort of thing.
It was weird that my skin on my hand was just like flaking off and peeling.
Which is the only weird side effect.
My guts didn't feel too bad.
Feel a bit so yeah, but that was it really
No, so not to yeah, it wasn't too bad
Just felt a bit average, you know
Yeah, that was it just like mentally just felt down
But I think that's just a side effect of a long term antibody stuff. They say does that
That's just a side effect of long term antibiotics that they say does that. Yeah Jack won that fight.
He broke his arm in the first round and fought the next two rounds and won the fight.
You didn't even know it was broken right because you were so fucking hyped up.
Yeah I had no idea until literally like as soon as the fight was over my arm was pretty
sore.
I was pretty certain when the fight was done
that the, yeah, I was thinking it was probably broken.
And hey dude, it was a legit break.
It wasn't like just like a little chip or a fracture.
Like the x-ray was crazy.
That shit.
Full snap of the owner.
So the smaller, only the smaller bone in the forearm,
but it was clearly snapped. Which I think but it was cleanly snapped.
If it was like the radius, I don't think you'd be able to fight because your arm would go
sloppy but having two bones in there sort of helped me. the the
the
the
the
the
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the the I don't see shit. Maybe it's your internet savant Maybe maybe I was bragging about it. Am I all frozen? No, you look good to me, too
Oh, all right. How's everything states odd boys? What's been going on the US of a
Just lunacy. Oh
Yeah crazy
Yeah
It's um
There was that guy there's a guy who we were talking about it before he came on.
Uh, he, there was somebody that was attacking other people on a subway in New York City and,
uh, a guy, like he's a former military guy, like jacked fricking nice hair, just handsome
looking dude.
And uh, he like took this guy down to the ground on the subway
and like put him in a rear naked choke and like subdued him so that he could stop like
attacking people on the subway. And then like the United States courts were like charging
him with with murder.
Merk murder. Yeah.
What did they do?
Yeah, the guy had a guy and the guy they subdued. And so they're just they're they're charging
with murder and then now the jury's in a stalemate
They can't come to decision as to whether or not they want to charge him with it or not
It's bizarre. There's there's video of it and everything Jack. He did not
Fool he was protecting the P he was protecting the people on the subway and and when that when when he let him go
The guy was still alive. He put him in it in like a rear naked choke
Hopefully hopefully he doesn't get go to jail, you know, that's it
He's doing a service to the public right? Seriously. Yes. He just running amok on the subway
It's like you have nowhere to go either like the next you have to wait till the next stop for anybody to exit
And so you're just in a tube. Just This guy's just going around fucking with people.
It's like being, yeah, you're just fighting somebody
in an airplane up in the air.
Hey, what's going on over there, Jack?
We got Trump in here and the whole fucking country
is going crazy.
Half of us feel free.
We're like, oh my God, we can say whatever we want.
And the other half are like, oh my God,
he's gonna take away our rights to kill babies
Yes, everything's alright over here we've got nothing there's some weird stuff going on I reckon like
They've just I've seen like yeah, they've just passed like it they've made it out like the under 16 year olds can't use social media
Yeah, is that a good thing?
But I mean, not maybe from the, from the outsides,
I might look at it and think, Oh, that's a good thing.
But then like they've attached also that now if you're over 16,
you have to prove your age by having like a digital ID. Oh,
I think I reckon they've just made it out like, Oh, we're protecting the young, but they're, the I haven't heard that side of the story. That yeah, over here they're like, hey, it's a great thing. And I'm like, yeah, that sounds good.
I'd raise it to 18, but the digital ID thing's bat shit crazy.
Yeah, it is.
They tried to, there was like a bill or whatever you call it, that they were trying to pass, which was like, basically it was called like the misinformation bill.
And it was basically saying, so the government could pretty much say what
information is true and not true, which is crazy. We're lucky that one didn't get passed.
But then they passed this one, which is yeah, I think from the outside, if you look at it,
it seems like it's a good thing. Like, oh yeah, we're not going to let under 16 year
olds on social media. But I think really what it is is just so everyone has the digital ID
so you can prove your age,
and then all your social media stuff
is attached to a digital ID.
So then I guess like, then it just comes,
what's next, you know?
So it's kind of weird.
I think a lot of people think it's a bit weird,
but it's a hard one.
What do you actually, I don't know.
What do you do about it?
How can you do anything?
Here's one of your local country men.
He also doesn't like it.
Lucky camera straps is out of Australia.
And I'm not keen on the digital ID at all.
No.
I don't think anyone's keen on it.
I think they just like the whole thing.
They just mix it up.
They make it out like it's just a, yeah.
They make it sound good, but if you just read it quickly and thought under 16s can't use
social media, great.
But really, I think there's more to it.
Is there a shift there?
Is there a shift? Like we've had a big shift in this country like
basically a lot of people who were like
so-called
Morally justice and compassion empathy now all of a sudden people are eating their dogs women are getting raped and they're like, okay
Maybe kids are getting raped and they're like, ah, maybe we were too nice
And so there's kind of this swing back to like, yeah, you need to come in the country
the right way.
Yeah.
You can't make us force our kids to take drugs.
And so like the country, our country is going through some crazy upheaval.
I'm guessing everyone around the world watching it.
Are you experiencing that there or do you hear people talking about watching what's
going on in the U S?
Yeah, I think it's still, yeah, I think it is.
I think like what that, like the whole election thing,
a lot of people open their eyes and sort of a bit more,
yeah, I think it went a bit weird for a bit,
but I think a lot more people are sort of waking up a bit
and thinking we got to sort of take like, I guess. Yeah, I
think like from all the people I hang out with definitely, like,
not really into that stuff. They're trying to avoid all that
the weird stuff that's going on. But then it's a weird one,
because I think that there's still a very like, the people
actually run the country is pretty weird. I think.
Yes.
So it's hard.
They want to control everything.
It's like, Hey man, I just want to live my life and enjoy what I have.
Yeah.
100%.
Ken Walters, Jack, when you win your next fight, please do the Trump dance.
I will.
That'd be nice.
Actually, when I fought in Miami, Trump was there, which is pretty cool. Oh, that's crazy. the about to walk out and then they had to stop me from walking out and then he walked out literally like a minute before me and the crowd. Yeah, it was a big part. They obviously
love him over there.
Big fans over here, I think.
Yeah, which is yeah, I think it's good. Like he, he says as he says it, he's not like a,
well, I don't think from the outside, it doesn't seem like he's a fake person. He says, he says how he thinks, you know, which is important.
Hey, the reason why I think, um, like you said, the people you hang out with,
aren't cool on the, about the digital ID and they're shifting.
It's because that's the personal accountability, personal responsibility
crowd, right?
Like you can take care of yourself.
The people who there, there's just a huge cohort of people who?
Want the government to take care of them?
Yeah, for sure massive for all the people
Just yeah, they look at the government like their parents
You know and they just want them to parent them, but really that's not the way it should be
You know the government should be for the people not the other way around
It should be you know the government should be for the people not the other way around
Yeah, and and if you need to take care of yourself like we don't need the government like the government should build roads for us and
And make sure the streets are safe and then after that get the fuck out. Yeah
Telling us what our information is
Actual and what's not like we should be telling us what information is actual and what's not. Like we should be able to, the least human should be able to decipher
what they think is true, you know?
Not just having the government tell us what is true
because then that just leads to all sorts of weirdness.
Hey, do you think you're gonna homeschool your kids?
I don't know. Yeah, well, I could. Yeah, I was sort of open to the eye. I don't know. I wouldn't fully homeschool them, but it's definitely interesting. Like the schooling
system is weird. You know, I hear a lot of stuff like even just like the whole gender
thing. Like it's not something I want my kid to be. I think that is such a simple, it's not like it doesn't that it isn't,
shouldn't be complex, you know,
it should just be pretty straightforward.
Even we're looking at getting my,
my son who's two years old,
we're looking at possibly getting him to daycare.
So we had to fill out some like government documents.
And yeah, some of the questions like,
what is your son male, female or like non binary
or something? And it's just like, Hey dude, he's two years old. Like he's either a boy or a girl,
but that's it. There's nothing that shouldn't be in my choice to it. So even that and like something
then you could get a weird teacher that thinks all this weird stuff, and then they spend more time with your kids than you do.
So you don't really know what they're learning. So it's kind of scary.
It wouldn't have been something I really even cared about to you had kids.
And then you don't want some weirdo teaching your kids weird stuff.
Hey, Jack, do you have this? I want to, I'm going to circle back to that kid thing.
I want to talk you into homeschooling your kids and never putting them behind a chain link fence for nine hours a day. But one second, Jack, do you have this? I want to I'm gonna circle back to that kid thing I want to talk you into homeschooling your kids and never putting them behind a chain-link fence for nine hours a day
But one second this this Jack this Jack Madeleine Dela Madeleine a foundation. What is that?
Where's that I see it on your Instagram it says just made the Jack Dela Madeleine a foundation as strong as his knockout punch
Do you have a center somewhere?
Like a nonprofit? I've never even heard of this. Oh, here I'll show you. It's on your Instagram.
Yeah, look at this.
Just made Jack Dalen.
He's not this was a good friend of mine who laid concrete.
So he's talking about the concrete foundation.
Oh, shit.
Okay.
Here's what I was gonna say.
Just have your kid go there every day.
Hey dude, does your wife work, Jack?
She's just started her own business,
selling kids clothing wear.
What's the name of it?
It's called Franco's Dad.
Check it out, it's cool, it has a really cool gear.
She's pretty smart, she works really hard.
And she makes good, she makes cool yeah check it out pull it up
this one yeah this is it hell yeah of course i can't see it
so it's cool gear right what's it called franko's gear right our f r a n c o s dot d a d on instagram Frankos are FRA and see OS dot D ad on Instagram. Oh
Okay, I got it. Got it. This is sick. I love this sunglasses
It's like a street waste oh
It was like early 2000s is like when I was a kid these are awesome
Hey Jack, I basically with me and my wife,
like, I mean, I'm, are you saving shit loads? Your money you make?
Like what do you do with your money? You make,
do you save it and invest it? And are you like getting ready?
Like, are you always thinking about, Hey, I just want to just, when I'm done,
I just want to be able to just have enough. Like my thought is,
I always want to just have enough money to put gas in my car and not worry about
the price of avocados, you know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah.
Like that kind of independently wealthy,
just the bare minimum.
My house is paid for and I don't have to worry
about what I'm eating.
I don't care if I drive a shitty car.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, that's what,
just trying to, yeah, I don't really spend a whole lot,
like I'm not really a big showy person.
I don't really need to spend a heap of money on stuff,
but yeah, I just try to accumulate wealth.
I just try and buy another house, I'd say,
and then just keep investing in that sort of thing.
I have been down like three hours south of Perth
is like a real nice area called Margaret River.
Yeah. Possibly like buying a bit of property like in that part of the world and then just
when I'm done fighting probably just spend a bit of time like down there surfing and just
Getting out of the city, you know be nice
Yeah, so that's exactly what I did. I bought four houses
I live in one and I rent the other three out and I run this fucking podcast
and dude all I do every day Jack is I do podcasts for a couple hours and then while my wife teaches my kids for a couple hours and then I take them the rest of the day and they fight for like three hours a day and jujitsu and striking they play tennis they surf they skateboard and I just run them ragged until 7 o'clock at night
and then I just hand them back off to my wife and dude, I'm telling you I
Cannot
Recommend highly enough not to put your kids fucking in school
Schools just a giant misnomer. It's not even school. It's about raising your kids
Like it shouldn't even be called homeschooling
Like there's so many and there's these little programs where you can take your kids to for just like one hour a day
Where they do math and reading so they'll they'll you know be sharp and then that's it and dude you can take them
Everywhere as long as you fucking discipline the fuck out of them You know what I mean? Like you know that buddy you have it
You have who has puts a he can leave his dog in his car with the windows open and the dog doesn't run away?
Yeah. That's like, I mean that or that's the kind of kids you want. You want to just train them so
well and be so disciplined. You can take them everywhere. Australia schools are very different
than USA. Hey, fuck you. No, they're not. He just told me in the second two years old, they have a
gender question. Listen, there's no such thing as gender. It's like Bigfoot. You don't even want to be around people who are playing that game
That's just my I'm pretty I'm pretty adamant about it. Like
They're your kids raise them and your parents will help you too. And her parents will help you. You know what I mean? Yeah
Yeah, and I like it. Yeah school is interesting because they just
Call for everyone, you know, it's not some kids.
If you can't sit behind a desk for six hours and then they'll just try and label you like you've got ADHD or there's something wrong with you.
And realistically, it's like, who is who is capable of sitting there for six hours behind a desk and not going crazy?
Yeah, I can also like you do six hours of school and then they try and pile you on with homework when you get home. the and you go, oh, there's something wrong with them rather than the system that they're bored up in. But so it is, yeah, it's definitely, yeah,
I'd much rather, yeah, if that is a possibility,
it is something I would look at, you know.
Jack, this is my kid at seven years old, right?
Look, look at, can you see this video?
Yeah, I can see it.
This is my kid seven, his math skills are,
and his dance skills are sharper than any kids.
Why? Because he throws punches.
Yeah, he's in the output, that's it. Oh, he's looking good. Yeah. Right.
How good is that? Seven dude, but that's just, but that didn't come easy.
That's cool. That's five days a week of jujitsu and striking.
That's it. Does he just go to the local like martial arts school?
Nah, we did. We did that route at first. We went to the local place and then and then it was like, okay, we need to find somewhere like this chick's a professional fighter. The the boyfriend's like probably one of the best fighters in the area, which is jujitsu skills. Yeah, so it's, you know, even though they're that young, if you're gonna put in five or six hours a day,
like you don't wanna waste your time.
Yeah, for sure.
But yeah, that's cool though, that's exciting.
And they're not gonna get that at a preschool, dude.
Sorry to be so preachy, but like,
I'm telling you, you'll be so happy if you raise them yourself.
Yeah. Do they, do you reckon your kids would wanna fight? Say that again? But like I'm telling you you'll be so happy if you raise him yourself. Yeah
Did I jerk in your kids who want to fight?
Say that again. You're right
You kids who want to actually compete? Oh god, I fucking hope not but they're they're dominating jiu-jitsu tournaments now And they and they're get they're twice as tough as their dad already and it's um
Yeah, who knows
Who knows I want to say that again they're into surfing you're saying yeah and surfing yeah but you know it's like
yeah it's Santa because you are you surfing a lot these days no I like I
used to surf a fair bit but I haven't recently but I like I used to surf a fair bit, but I haven't recently, but I like I do like surfing.
Like if I ever get the opportunity, I will definitely go surfing.
But there's not that many good ways and surf.
You've sort of got to travel a little bit to go surfing.
But it is not. I do love like the it's pretty peaceful surfing.
Similar to martial arts, you're just in the zone.
It's probably quite meditative.
It's nice.
I love surfing.
Hey, if you do come back here,
one of the big sponsors for the show, capeptides.com,
the lady's one of your fellow countrymen.
She was the one that one time that offered you the place to stay on the beach at Newport Beach.
Yeah.
And so I'm sure definitely keen to next summer.
We're going to spend time in California.
We definitely take you up on that offer.
Yes, she's she's great.
And it's a great spot.
There's great training there.
There's great.
There's great people down there probably for you to train with great spot. There's great training there. There's great.
There's great people down there
probably for you to train with
also a lot of good fighters
down there. There's good surf
down there, isn't there? New
port great surf. Look at that
big wedge wave, isn't it? That
like yes, that's that's where
her place is. That's where her
beach house. She got a handful
of beach houses walking distance to the wedge. Yeah, that's cool. That's sick. Yeah, I definitely became check that out.
And the Rotola brothers are down there, I think when they're in the States.
And Cheeto Vera is probably around that area. Yeah. Yeah. Good. Yeah. Look at you. You know
your geography better than I do. Yeah. Cheeto down there. See? Yeah, yes. That's sick.
Yeah, you would like it. It's a good place to take your wife and it's a
safe, pretty safe spot of California and you can let your guard down and it's
cool. Yeah, we'll hope. Yeah, I think at some point next year will definitely be
be there for sure.
What about a third child? next year will definitely be be
Yeah, I reckon we'll probably, I reckon we'll probably have a third, you know, they're pretty good fun.
I mean, like, yeah, it's a bit of hard work, but I guess it all pays off, you know, when
they're a bit older but Franco is
they're both pretty easy kids. He has some horror stories but we've been pretty blessed.
Hey did you hear what they did in Canada yesterday with the guns? No. They outlawed like 324 that to the Ukraine. It sounds me up. That sounds a bit, yeah, that is silly, right? That doesn't
make sense. Do you guys have guns in Australia? Nah, they banned them a while ago, but you can,
there is some people that have guns. You can like get a lot. It's just not as easy in the US. Yeah, you have to go through a lot of like paperwork and stuff and then
it's not yeah, they're not really it's not the same but you can't just yeah you've got to do a
lot a bit of uh but I don't know how it works but you can apply you can get guns for sure.
That's why I mean you need him here to protect yourself from the government
Hey, would they ever make them legal again in Australia? You think it would ever flip back the other way?
Who I think he's frozen oh
Good. I'm glad he's frozen. He he has not moved once for me during the show. Oh, that's cool. That's super cool
Soon as we said guns Australia turned off his fucking baby the
the
the
the
the
the I don't know. I thought it was bad. Caleb says it's okay
It's actually now that your hotspots
It's kind of gotten worse but
Hey, let me let me just let me answer before I lose you Jack. Let me ask you some fights. Okay
Yeah, yeah
Let me pick some of my favorite fights and you tell me who you think is going to win. Clay Guida and Chase Hooper.
That's on the early prelims.
That's crazy, right? That fight?
That is crazy.
Man, how old is Clay Guida? But he must be close to 40 for sure. the I think he's uh Clay. Chase is not that good at striking but he's got pretty good pretty high level.
It's pretty interesting. And how about these dudes in your division? Uh I didn't even know Michael was still fighting Michael.
Oh yeah and Max Griffin. Yeah, maybe. Who's going to win? I reckon, yeah, I think Max Griffin will get him.
He's had a pretty good career, long career, but I haven't seen Max Griffin fight for a long time either.
Yeah, me neither.
Yeah, interesting. I'd probably say Max Griffin will get that one.
I'm a huge Cody Durden fan. I don't know if you know who that is
But he's sad. I haven't seen
Yeah, right
He's savage. He's he's good. I think he's better. I think he's better than 14. I watch this
How about this one Chris Weidman in Anders?
Yep, I
Reckon I reckon Chris Wybin hasn't really looked the same has he?
I reckon Eric Anders might get him.
I was a big Chris Wybin fan today.
Hey, any concern that you'll be hesitant to throw a punch or block a kick since you broke
your arm?
No, I think it should I think it should be
Not really. I think you've just got to try and trust the arm and then see what happens
You got a dog drinking water there. I recognize that sound
So so really that that you won't even think twice about it.
It's not like a leg break.
You know, the guys break their legs and then they don't want to kick or check a kick.
It's not like that with your arm.
Yeah, no, yeah, no, I wouldn't.
Yeah, I would try to try not to think twice about it when it's strong.
I have to trust it.
I have to trust it. I have to trust it.
Punch so hard. Just try to break it again.
Yeah.
All of that.
Brian battle's good, man.
Yeah.
Brian battle is good for sure.
I thought Randy Brown, I think Brian battle will be Randy Brown.
He's got, he's pretty fair.
He has good, he puts out a good output
Brian Battle. I reckon he'll take him out. Have you fought Brian?
No, no, I haven't fought Brian. Maybe we'll cross paths one day, I'm sure.
Maybe we'll fight. We'll cross paths one day, I'm sure.
And Aljoe fighting some guy I never even heard of.
Yeah, that Mosvaj guy, he's pretty good. He's pretty good. He's a strong grappler.
I think Aljoe will win.
I think Aljoe will beat him. Mosvaj has been pretty good.
He's just strong grappler. He hasn't got that great striking.
I reckon Aljoe's a former champ.
Yeah, I reckon Aljoe will take him out.
Probably not finish him.
Make the decision.
And this is Aljoe's new weight class, right?
This is 145.
He's come up to 145.
Yeah, yeah.
So I'm sure it'll be probably just in better better shape
I reckon not as much as a brutal weight cut. He's a big boy
And this guy's this is gonna be a fun fight to watch no Vincent Luque he's he's he can throw right
Yeah, you can throw he's a good counterstrikes yeah, he can throw. He's a good
counterstrikes. Yeah, he's
knocked a few people out.
versing the, I guess the new
guy, the younger guy. I wonder
who's get I reckon maybe yeah,
but when Vicente Lucas on, he
has some good strikes. You
know, he's a powerful puncher
stands in the pocket, looks for
counter strikes. I reckon Luke, I will get him. Hey, do you bet at all?
No, I don't. I never normally bet. I always get him wrong. To be honest,
I always get it wrong.
Yeah.
On the title on the main fight for the prelims,
Dominic Ray is the guy that beat John Jones and didn't get the call.
You remember that fight where he beat up John Jones for three rounds and then lost the last two rounds?
Yeah, that was a crazy fight. I think he's gonna fucking destroy Anthony Smith, but yeah.
Um, I think he's gonna destroy Anthony Smith.
Yeah
I think he's gonna destroy and yeah
His Dominic right he has one for what they both are on and they both are losing streaks
Yes, not great Dominic Reyes has been like having a glass jaw lately
I feel like and Anthony Smith doesn't look like he's in very good like he's been getting winded. I feel like
Yeah And Anthony Smith doesn't look like he's in very good, like he's been getting winded, I feel like. Yeah.
Not having the same.
Yeah, I reckon both of them,
I think both of them, if they're both in their like primes,
I reckon Dominic Reyes will win.
Let's just see right there.
I like this guy late, Nate.
He got a base that's like made to punch.
I reckon he'll win.
Yeah, he's funny, isn't he? Yeah. He got a- yeah he's funny isn't he yeah he's good.
Well I think that that do you
know you guys a good that's it
that's a good father can I will
be crazy for. I think so too
that we- can that would be a, uh, blood bath. Yeah.
Nate's face is going to get rearranged for sure.
And how about this? This, these are two psychopaths.
Bryce Mitchell thinks the earth is fat flat and Crohn Gracie hasn't smiled in 25 years.
I think, I think I think from Gracie also is a flat earth. Oh, is he okay?
I'm mistaken.
Which is they should, um, they should sell it like that for King of the flat
earthers.
That would be awesome.
Yeah.
I reckon, I reckon Bryce Mitchell will get the win.
Just, I think, uh, his striking, I think Bryce Mitchell has better striking
than crime.
Both have pretty good, uh, you know Just I think he's striking. I think Bryce Mitchell has better striking than Krohn.
Both have pretty good grappling.
Maybe Bryce's wrestling is better.
They might be able to ask, dictate where the fight plays out.
I reckon Bryce and Mitchell will get him.
Hey, didn't Bryce Mitchell fight Ilya Tupuria and get destroyed?
Yeah.
I think he did. Yeah, I'm sure he did. And then he fought Emmett Smith and that didn't go so good either.
Yeah, that might have been his last five, which isn't, I guess, good. But yeah, I reckon Bryce Mitchell will get him.
I hope he does. I like Bryce Mitchell.
Yeah, you're all gone versus Alexander Volkoff. I guess gone one their last round their last fight.
But Alexander looks different doesn't he like he's on the juice or he got a new
haircut or something looks different about him.
He's he's more manly than ever.
He used to be kind of like weird looking.
Now he's starting to look I don't know
Yeah, that's a good fight. You know God is he's a rear
He's so good on the feet for a heavyweight and Volkov's he's huge. He's really tall. Yeah, I
Think of Volkov might get the win here
Volkov used to have one of those weird bodies for a man.
When your hips are wider than your shoulders,
that's a bad look for a man.
You know what I mean?
You've seen those men.
You're like, oh, you're not getting any pussy.
You're fucked.
But now it's not like that.
Now he's got wide shoulders, wider shoulders than his hips.
His whole body is transformed.
I hope Volkov wins. Any thoughts on who will win? Yeah, I
Reckon Volkov will win to be on I think guy like God super go on the feet
But yeah, I reckon Volkov's had pretty good run if I'm not mistaken. I think he's had a few good wins
He's so tall, you know and he's a
Lot of experience. Yeah, I can Volkov might get in a bit of an upset maybe.
And then here it is.
Will you be awake when this fight happens?
Will you watch this live?
Yeah, I watch this live.
This is yeah, probably just be like midday, midday for us on Sunday.
So it's a nice time.
But yeah, this is a good this is an interesting fight.
Real interesting. I think he's a strong line if you can get a hold of Gary might be able to give Gary problems, but
Could also see Gary just making it a bit boring just staying away from Shavkat and just up
Potshot him from the outside
But if I was gonna put money on it, I'd probably expect Shavkat maybe to get the submission
Submission maybe like is it a five round or just a three rounder. Oh, that's a good question
Maybe it's just a three rounder
But yeah, I think maybe he should have come back to get the submission on him I think
Hey, what do you think about this strategy Jack? Shavkat make sure he wins the first round because then Gary can't
run from him the rest of the rest of the fight. Yeah Gary's not afraid yeah but even then I think
Gary wouldn't be afraid he's just gonna I think he's just happy just to run away most of the fight
you know and just jab him and kick him and I think he'll try and do that.
It could be a boring fight, I think, if Shavkat can't get a hold of him. And I could see maybe
even Shavkat gets a bit flustered by getting hit on the outside and then charges in and he
could get hit by Gary, but it'll be a good fight. I'm excited for this fight. Yeah, will you be, when you watch this at your house, is it like, okay, everyone be quiet?
Or will there be like kids climbing on top of you and your wife brushing her teeth in front of the TV saying, Jack, did you take the trash out?
Or is it like, no, I'm watching this fight. Everyone settle down.
No, more likely the kids will be all over the place.
I'll be tuning in for sure.
Will you watch all of them?
Will you watch the early prelims and the prelims and the main card, you think?
Probably not all of them.
I'll probably go back and watch some of the I'll probably watch the main card live and then just go back and watch some of the other, the earlier fights, just picking.
Yeah, you gotta wait. You gotta see Al Joe's fight, right? And, and, and, and yeah, yeah.
Yeah. I watched Bryce Mitchell's fight don't watch the gun fight. And here's one of the coolest fights UFC's ever made because it's for
the championship Alexander Pantoja.
Wait, sorry, who did you pick in this?
You picked Shavkat in this?
Yeah, I picked Shavkat.
Me too.
Yeah.
But and then you have Alexander,
Pantoja against the dude who's never fought in the UFC, which is just crazy.
What the fuck?
Yeah, it's interesting. I've seen this, uh, I've seen a few of this guy as security.
So he looks quiet.
It's quite exciting.
But Pantoja, yeah, it's interesting.
If I think maybe. Yeah, I think Pantoja, yeah, it's an interesting fight. I think maybe, yeah, I think Pantoja will win.
Just maybe from having the experience, five round UFC fights, and he's pretty, he's had good,
good matches, you know, good performances. I think he'll get the win. But I expect, I reckon
this will be a good fight. I think most Pantoja's fights are always exciting
because he just comes forward and just goes extremely hard.
You think that there's a chance this guy gets in the ring
with Pantoja and Pantoja just destroys him or like,
yep, there's levels to this.
The UFC is just different.
I don't know. I think Pantoja is too much of like a brawl in style to make it. I don't, I reckon it will be. Yeah, I think it, no, I think it will turn into, Pantoja
always seems to turn fights into like crazy, crazy back and forth battles just from his
style. So I reckon it will be pretty back and forth
unless Pantoja might be able to just take him down to the ground and submit him early I'm not sure I'm not sure how good this uh the Japanese guys grappling is striking wise Pantoja leaves a lot
of holes to get a hit and this guy throws knees out of nowhere
Hit and this guy throws knees out of nowhere
Yeah, yeah, I've seen the highlight he's got a lot of knee knockouts and
He's very crazy knees, which is cool
His last TKO was a knee and to knee the body and punches
Yeah, he last three I think I do though so. So who do you think is going to win that one, Jack? I would, I reckon Pantoja think Pantoja will get the win.
Soon as you said, maybe Pantoja will submit them quick. I felt like I saw that. I'm like,
yeah, you're, I think you're, I think he's going to grab that dude and tie that dude in a pretzel Yeah, maybe I
Reckon yeah, he will submit him quick or it might be a battle for five rounder. Oh
Look at I said Emmett Smith instead of Josh Emmett Emmett Smith's a football player Josh Emmett you idiot. Hey go fuck yourself
Okay
Hey, go fuck yourself. Okay. Listen, I barely made it to the interview. I'm like, I'm traveled across the fucking United States today. I thought I got my days confused. I'm a mess.
I got old. Enjoy. Enjoy your youth, dude. My brain has turned into fucking mashed potatoes.
How old are you? 52. Oh, that's all right. I'm twice as old as you.
Oh no, you're I would be 56. Nevermind. Yeah, yeah. You still fit. He's trying to fair
bit. Yeah, I'm fit as fuck. I kick anyone's ass at the local Starbucks, those fat fucks.
Did you, what sort of exercise did you do?
Like crossfit squats?
Yeah.
I mean, the audience doesn't think so.
They, you know, I'm a little slow these days,
but I spent a lot of time on the assault bike.
Yeah. But I do, you know I'm a little slow to these days but I spend a lot of time on the assault bike yeah but I do you know lots of um uh oh look it I said my brain is mashed potatoes and this
guy says jack's face is mashed potatoes you need an ass whooping you're gonna put your address in there Jack's coming over show you mashed potatoes
Seve pump the brakes a little bit said I'm fucking it's late here. I'm a wreck. I can't pump the brakes
Yeah, I do all the CrossFit stuff all that fun stuff, you know pull-ups thrusters
running push-ups
D-balls all that all that shit you do except you you actually apply it to your life. I'm just trying to stay alive. All right dude well hey
thanks for coming on I'm stoked to have you I'm glad to see you're healthy
congratulations tell your wife congratulations on Frank Franco's dad. Yeah, there you go. Franco's did dot dad
Sure to get 30,000 followers that shit's blowing up
Yeah, she's she's blowing up she's pumping it shit you're gonna get to retire
That's the plan. Jack, your face might be mashed potatoes, but I love you and I'm a huge fan.
Cheers, Cole.
Do you know who that is?
No, I have no idea. But I'm sure sure. Do you know who
I'm not sure how. Who knows? But I be pregnant with the third. That's it. Cheers. Nice to see you guys. And I love your plan
for rental houses. Make sure you come state. What? No, I said I see you soon, but yeah,
I'll be in Newport soon for sure. That sounds perfect. Yeah. Text me anytime. Text me anytime.
Perfect. Bring the family. It's a great place for kids too.
Yeah. Beautiful. Say boys, happy new year.
All right, brother. Yep. Good seeing you. Thank you.
Bye. Fuck. My connection was ass.
Yeah. That was weird.
Fuck my connection was ass
Yeah, that's weird
Did my moving for you yeah yours yours is better
hmm, oh
My god, I'm what a fucking mess so I get to the airport today, and I'm like all right We're going back to the hotel. I got a podcast at 930
So let's just go grab a steak and Greg's like I think I talk in an hour. I'm like, well, I'm like, where do you talk? He's like at the event.
I thought it was tomorrow. He's like, no.
I'm like, oh, fuck the hell, Greg.
I'm sure I fucked it up.
Well,
probably true. So right, so I'm kind of close to you now. Yeah, you're an hour ahead of me actually right now. Oh really? Wait, what time is it for you?
My phone says 1054. There's no way it can be this late. Oh, yeah, you're an hour ahead of me
Um, it's 954 here
Yeah, you're close though, it's like six four or five hours away oh
By driving yeah, you're like halfway between me and JR
Seve why aren't you at fitfest? Is that the thing that Colton went to? I have no idea. I don't go anywhere there's teams. Oh it's 1054 here too.
Jesus it's late. What was your role at the event videographer? No, I was just standing around signing autographs
kissing babies
Yeah, what are you doing? You are you hanging out for a minute? Yeah for sure. Okay, I'm gonna take a piss and
Get a sparkling water. We'll be back in just a minute
When I opened my gym I knew I was to be training with the boys all the time.
I was going to get jacked and just be lifting 24-7.
Let me show you how it's really going.
Tobias, the toilet's clogged.
Oh, okay.
Hey Tobias, somebody needs help with their membership.
Oh, okay.
Thanks.
Hey Tobias.
Oh yeah?
What's up?
I know I don't have my strict pull up yet, but can you help me get a bar muscle up?
Yeah, sure.
Let's go.
Okay, it's 9 p.m. so if I get home shower, eat, I can be bed by 11 and then be back here at 4 15 a.m.
Let's go. This is the fourth time today that I've had to clean shit off the toilet. You guys have to
get a different pre-workout. I knew owning a gym I'd get to buy all the cool equipment I want.
Check out this awesome $700 table. Ah another person asking for a refund three weeks after their draft has come out.
You know the cancellation policy, John.
Oh, Carrie, five minutes late but had time for Starbucks again, huh?
Thanks, Carrie.
People say the dumbest shit to me. Frank blocked me.
Oh. Frank blocked me. Oh
Who's Frank? I don't know. I'm just reading text messages. His name is Frank. God, people say the dumbest shit to me.
Such as? Therefore?
I don't even know if I can explain it I could try I
Wasn't trying to get you to ask. Sorry. I was just doing a dramatic pause
You know what some lady told me tonight on the fucking on the at the event
This was not let me let me refresh this this I was about to this was not a dumb thing. This lady said
So I'm segueing from that segment, okay?
Yep. I was making a joke.
I know, I just wanted to be clear.
Someone said to me today, they said,
Hey, I wish you talked faster on your podcast.
You talk really slow.
Interesting. Okay.
Yeah, I thought that was cool.
I thought that was some interesting feedback.
No one's ever gave me that feedback.
She's like, yeah, I have to listen to 1.5 or something.
I was like, fuck, I listen to RFK a 1.5 or something. I was like fuck I listen to
RFK at 1.5. How slow do I fucking talk?
I had never gotten that feedback
Yeah, I hope
Yeah, do you think I talk slow?
No, I don't think so because I'll have you're sometimes I can put a I can put people at 2.2 point o speed
And I'm like cool got it
Yeah, exactly who but when I listen to you or to this show back you back
I have to keep it like one and a half because if it's faster than that, I
Can't pay attention. There are some like pregnant pauses in there where it's like I
Think that's what it is i i think i take a lot
of pauses because i'm just trying to get make get fucking 90 minutes of content yeah but it's not
like when you are speaking i don't i cannot listen to you at 2.02 timespeed
i was talking to someone today and they're like uh
they're basically, they were basically
accusing me of just like doing whatever fucking keeps me relevant or gets me the most for
me.
Oh, and that that's like all I do.
I'm like, uh, I just shit over all, all my whole, like, I just shit on all the athletes and I shit on like I just shat in
the kitchen
Like what are you talking about?
Yeah, in this person it was just so crazy the way the angle this person was taking with me it was a trip
I was just like
It was a trip
Now that I say it out loud I realized oh maybe that person's saying it because they want something from me.
They want the attention from you?
Or because I don't give them enough. Yeah, I don't give them enough attention.
Hmm.
Yeah, it was weird.
Maybe. I've noticed a trend of
that I forget who's out there. Like if you need to come on the show, just tell me you need to come on the show. Oh, I told the story about Ken Walters today.
Oh.
At this event I was at.
Oh.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
I was like, I don't, Ken go do something.
Why did I just get that dude?
I got nervous.
Ken go do something. Oh shit. So we were talking about Greg's event on January 11th and 12th and like a lot of people want to come. What'd you say? No, kidding. That's another joke. Sorry. Oh, I didn't even get it. What did you say? February 10th? I said January 6th. Oh, yeah, January 6th and 7th. Yeah. It's called the insurrection. Yeah, so he's doing this event at his house on the 10th and the 11th. Oh, yeah, January 6th and 7th. Yeah, it's called the the the insurrection
Yeah, so he's doing this event at his house on the 10th and the 11th
okay, and
You know, I've I
Was telling the story about like hey, yeah a lot of people want to go and like I'm trying to be like yo
Like everyone chill like I don't I don't know if it's gonna be like that
And then I said this one fucking dude
sends me a text and he's
I can't even tell the story, but I just told the story about Ken because the other day
I'm like, alright Ken, you're on you know,, come to the event. Yeah, yeah.
I just caved.
Cause I was like, I can't invite anymore people.
I'm gonna get fucking in trouble.
Oh.
Oh.
I'm texting with Greg. I was just asking where he's at. He said he I'm in my room
It's probably getting ready for bed anyway, I can't even do the story justice I can't I can't tell it
I can't tell it with Ken on here. I'm too embarrassed. I thought I could I
Don't want to get the reason why also is I don't want to give away like his it's not I don't want to give away like I don't want to say what he I don't want to it was a very very sweet message he sent me and I don't want to like like it's almost like too intimate you know what I mean yeah like he was like you know what I mean it was like it was it was between me and him and I like when I told it today I told it like a comedy bit right then I realized if I did it on this show it'd be like I'm gonna give away like a very very sweet message he sent me and I don't want to give away like it's almost like too intimate you know what I mean yeah like he was like you know what I mean it was like it was it was between me and him and I like when I told it today I told it like a comedy bit right then I realized if I did it on this show it'd be like I'm gonna give away like a very very sweet message he sent me and I don't want to give away like it's almost like too intimate you know what I mean yeah like he was like you know what I mean it was like it was like it was it was between me and him and I like when I told it today I told it like a comedy bit right then I realized if I did it on this show it'd be like I told it like a comedy bit right then I realized if I did it on this show it'd be like I told it like a comedy bit right then I realized if I did it on this show it'd be like I told it like a comedy bit right then I realized if I did it on this show it'd be like I told it like a comedy bit right then I realized if I did it on this show it'd be like I told it like a comedy bit right then I realized if I did it on this show it'd be like I told it like a comedy bit right then I realized if I did it on this show it'd be like I told it like a comedy bit right then I realized was it was between me and him and I Like when I told it today, I told it like a comedy bit
Right, then I realized if I did it on this show it'd be like me kissing and telling like, you know
I mean me kiss behind the dumpster and now I'm telling someone I get it's like I shouldn't do that
I'm trying to talk extra fast tonight. You know says you don't talk so I'm trying to talk extra fast tonight
Because of that comment go ahead
When you were talking about Craig Jones
So the kissing and telling and brought this up to me or reminded me of this when you're talking Craig Craig Jones
All I can think of now is this video that he made? You know, I can't see anything you share. Isn't that weird?
You can't see this and no
Well, this doesn't know justice to the story that I'm I can't see anything you share. Isn't that weird? You can't see this? No.
Well this doesn't, no justice to the story that I'm
But this is Craig Jones
And do you know who that, that uh
That chick, Gabby Garcia is?
She's a jujitsu player
She's like 6'4
Got crazy
insane hair, just the fattest tits
I know exactly who she is
I saw, and he held, is it the big underwear one?
No, it's when they do a face-off together and then Craig Jones grabs her by the face and brings her in and
Starts making out with her. Oh shit, and she like is
Not down for that and just shoves Craig Jones and Craig just starts sprinting off and she chases him like through the room trying to beat his ass
Wow, I saw one like a couple years ago
He was making fun of her on the internet and he's like I bought Gabby Garcia some Christmas present and he holds up the world's like
the biggest granny panties you've ever seen
Yeah, that makes sense
this is the every time I think of Craig Jones, that makes sense.
This is the every time I think of Craig Jones, that's the video that I think of and it's
pretty amazing.
I can't believe he did that.
Sorry, I'm texting at the same time.
That's okay.
Fitting my attention.
It's not cool.
And then and then when you were talking about Vulcan or Volkov
Yeah, remember seeing a video of him
I guess I think he hired a guy to like comb his hair in between rounds at his last fight. Oh
Shit, so there's a guy that came in well
Like, you know how they like come up to him in the middle of the like in between rounds and they like I think I remember
You telling me that last time and I never saw it. I never noticed it, but I think I remember you telling me that last time and I never saw it I never noticed it, but I think I remember you telling me that yeah, that's crazy
Yeah, and there's this guy with like a full-on like ace comb just
Parting his freaking luscious blonde locks
Yeah, he turned he turned into a man like I yeah
I think he got on the juice or something because he used to have like
Yeah, he used to have one of those crazy homo euro bodies.
You know what I mean?
Where the just your ass is so big.
Wear skinny jeans and it doesn't fit kind of thing.
Yeah, like a Cole gray shaver, except Cole's like Cole got the big gay ass, but at least
he has broad shoulders.
Okay.
Yeah.
You know, I mean, just a big juicy ass.
Respect.
I think Tudor has one of those two to just go just a dump truck
That's crazy
Greg said to me the funniest shit. Oh My god
Did you ever see the crumb documentary
No
Crumb yeah, there's a guy named crumb
He did all the album covers for, uh, the grateful dead.
Okay.
And he's an animator and it is the fucking weirdest documentary,
but me and him are totally into the same kind of girls.
Okay.
And it's just basically like,
I mean, I'm not anymore. Now I I'm married but they're like like
Yeah, it's just weird it's weird
Yeah, I've never seen this they're not breeding material
Grum girls
What are they? I don't know what they are. Let me see if I can um, let me see if I can
What you found the documentary? Yeah, it's on prime. You got to rent it for four bucks though. It's too much money for me
God dude, it's so good. If you haven't if anyone hasn't seen this movie, you should really see it
It is so it is amazing. It is so they look like they look like that chick
like what chick the what the
the one that Craig
Craig Jones made out with yeah, they're just weird. They're just weird girls
Gabby Garcia, they usually have like big shoulders huge asses little waist. They're like cartoon character girls
Yeah here. I'm gonna bring up a picture. You're not going to be able to see it, but
everybody else will. I think Gabby, I think Gabby Garcia was on too many. Yeah. I can't
see it, but Gabby Gar, you see was on too much steroids for me. I'm not into chicks
on steroids or she had giganticism or something. Probably a little bit of both. Let me type in that. It's just a massive woman with
jeans shorts on.
Yeah.
Like girls that are wearing a skirt
and it's a large or extra large
and their thighs are so thick
and their ass is so big like
it doesn't even fit underneath them.
What the hell
Fergie that is sema yeah i get yeah sema's totally yeah yeah except sema's maybe even too pretty
yeah i don't i don't see sema's got a great face like i't care. I don't I don't care if the face looks like it was hit with
a fucking shovel
Oh my god, I mean like these are girls you could run at full speed you'd bounce off
For Caleb to watch crumb girls, I
the Because he's such a hard worker and he's like after I watched that I was like so inspired like okay Like I got to work hard. I thought I'm gonna put this in the same
Bucket is two girls one cup and I'll never watch either of them. So I appreciate you bringing this to my attention. I
am I
I
Remember I remember a couple shows ago. I was talking about being 170 and being chubby.
Dude, I'm skinny as a rail.
I'm like anorexic compared to the people like I saw today traveling across the country.
Yeah.
I am just a little tiny, I'm just a little like skinny little man.
It's crazy.
The airports are did you have to anybody
get a seatbelt extender around you look at me like this is this like me side
profile I'm nice yeah form look at sick I've been wearing the no one has said
anything all day about these yeah probably because they're too scared to
because it just screams I'm a psychopath what's what's wrong with it what's day about these. Yeah, probably because they're too scared to
cause it just screams. I'm a psychopath. What's, uh, what's wrong with it?
What's wrong with the Greg's friend over there?
Um, I wore them on the airplane through the air. Oh, listen,
I got on the plane. I got on the plane, a Delta flight, huge, beautiful airplane,
rolled up to first class, get my seat. My seat turns into a bed. It's got the biggest TV screen, everything.
I'm like, oh, this is pretty cool.
Yeah, so much nicer than United or American.
I cannot believe how nice the flight was.
Greg hooked me up and a lady sits down next to me
and she's got a mask on.
Sick, dude.
And about an hour through the flight, she takes down her mask and I look at her face and she's stuck in a her face this is in San Francisco of course her her face looks like she like her expression looks like she bit a lemon it's just stuck like that oh god oh I wonder if my wife's watching the show.
She just sent me a text. I wonder if I'm in trouble. Oh.
Oh, no. Oh, God, this.
I want to talk to you guys about this picture. My wife showed me the other day.
I got to get approval before I tell you about it.
Um, anyways, she's just, she, this lady next to me looks like she bit into a lemon at all
times, right?
Okay.
Like that's just, her face is stuck like that.
Like a warhead.
Just, just, you're just, you're uptight. She's so fucking uptight.
You know what I mean?
Just an uptight psycho liberal lady.
And so finally I'm just like, I'm just sitting there and it's like an hour into the flight and I'm just, I just have my seat back and I haven't moved at all.
I'm just like this and I'm just breathing. So I've been on the plane for 30 minutes and we've been in the air for 30 minutes.
And I'm just thinking about her and her mask. I'm like, fuck it. And I just turned my TV on and I hit live TV and I put Fox News on and I just,
and I just let it run and like, you know,
every 30 seconds on Fox, no matter what they're showing,
they got a picture of Trump doing the Trump dance. Yeah. Yeah.
And she's watching a movie that has, um, uh,
that lady from the view.
I didn't know that lady from the view.
I didn't know that lady from the view is an actress.
What people heard?
Joy Bay, Joy.
Joy Bayhart.
Joy Bay, yeah, how do you spell her name?
Joy Bayhart.
It's actually Bayhart, B-E-H-A-R.
B-O-B-E-H-A-R.
Oh, Bayhart, Joy Bayhart. What movie was she in? B. Oh B. Eh Ar They oh behar joy behar
What movie was she in?
Yeah, it's her
Or is there is there an actress that looks like her?
Um, probably she would that she was in a long time other than
Is there an actress named vicki something that looks like her?
Let me see what movie she's been in Joy Behar show the view
Late night with Joy Behar other work
She's performed in theatrical plays has she been any movies no
God it was the lady that looked just like her
No. God, it was the lady that looked just like her.
Who am I thinking of? Not Bette Midler. Great.
That's a great, great.
I God, it wasn't Bette Midler. No, no, it wasn't Bette Midler.
That's a great guess.
Is there is there a Vicky something?
Oh, she plays the mom in Requiem for a Dream.
Joy Behar does?
Films.
She was in Gilbert, Ice Age, Hall Pass, A Madea Goes to Jail.
I don't see her in Requiem for a Dream.
30 Rock. the
third Iraq Anyway, it was it was a complete libtard movie Old white lady black lady was a star like these scenes in in male strip clubs
It was it was it magic mike
It uh
No, because I who's the star in magic mike channing tatum. Yeah, I didn't see him at all
Okay
No, not queen latifa Does delta show hbo is it hbo on delta? Channing Tatum. Yeah, I didn't see him at all. Okay, though not Queen Latifah
Does Delta show HBO is it HBO on Delta? No, but they had us I went to their movies and dude
They had a hundred movies, dude
200 movies they had like use paramount
Interesting. Okay, like you could scroll through the movies forever and the ladies like Wi-Fi is free
But the Wi-fi never worked once
no the wi-fi never works it's crazy everybody loves raimen no
today i learned about a term called glimmer which is the opposite of a trigger glimmers are those
moments in your day that make you feel joy happiness peace or gratitude once you train
your brain to be on the lookout for glimmers these tiny moments will appear more and more the the She said that she could so she did like there's like this whole it's like a Instagram thing
It's like a quote that chicks put on their shit
So I joke about that was my wife all the time. Did you say that you did you could so you so you did
That's very empowering for women. That's right
Hey
that's right hey
uh
someone sent me
lauren kalil's post the other day
or maybe it was this morning
and i didn't get a chance to look at it
oh shit
i think you have somewhere to be sephan
you don't think i should bring this up?
oh why aren't you at the bar? i'm getting bored
oh okay i need to come to the bar
lauren kalil uh Why aren't you at the bar? I'm getting bored. Okay, I need to come to the bar Lauren Lauren Khalil
Where's this um, oh
Did she block me how come I can't find her shit
Marco yes, I like the Christmas lights on my RV. It was actually super easy to put up
I just had hooks on them and I just strung them across the side and I can program them. So the first thing I did is I programmed a dick into
my Christmas lights. Oh you did? Yeah I did and then I went for the Christmas tree. So now it's
a Christmas tree obviously but sometimes I'll put up a dick just just for fun Just to scare the rest of the guests you can program it like a dick picture in it. Hell. Yeah, dude
Um, oh
Five things I learned since I lost ten pounds
Hmm and it's and it's her jump roping and her tits just bouncing all over the place
That's the the it's a great. It's a great shot and she looks great
I don't she looks absolutely awesome, but dude, I think
She she inspired me. I think I can lose ten pounds in a day
Really
So easy. I saw on that occurred lose 10 pounds. I don't know but
Maybe it just took her a day to I don't know over the past several months. I've lost some weight Oh several months
Wow
Okay
It's a long time. I think I could eat a
Big dinner and then snack on a pound of pistachios before I go to bed
You don't think I can lose 10 pounds in a day. You're out of your fucking mind
Does everyone agree with vittorio I could lose 10 pounds in a day
You can't see this but this is the picture of the dick on the side of my rv
Oh damn, will you send that in the group chat? Yeah, I will send it again.
I lost 20 in five months.
Yeah, 20 would be, 20 would take me probably a month.
Yeah, 10 pounds in a day isn't hard.
I think I could go from 170 to one,
I think I could wake up in the morning and be 170,
I think I could go from 170 to what I think I could wake up in the morning and be 170
170 and
The next morning be 160 the first 10 pounds is the easiest
Once yeah
Once you lose the 10 pounds and that usually happens in like a week then after that I mean at the at the longest a week
then after that
It takes forever. Yeah that would be hard
for me to lose to get down to 150 it would be I can't remember the last
time I was in a Four Seasons in Beverly Hills before I had kids I think and I
remember looking at the scale was like 147. Jamie Vladimir loves your dick. Oh, I mean your dick lights like
Did I accidentally send Jamie Latimer a dick pic? Maybe. Okay, I'm coming to the
bar. God, I'm such a whore. For $99 I'm definitely coming to the bar. The Lakers? I guess they're at the hotel.
Maybe you can meet the, maybe you can meet LeBron and his son.
I think, I think I need to ask Karn, but I think Karn, I think LeBron and his manager
were here and Karn walked up to him and invited him to Greg's talk.
That would be insane
Maybe I had a squat. I'm going downstairs to learn about met fix
Okay
Guys tomorrow kill Taylor thousand bucks
Damn Caleb, thank you. Sure. All right.
Love you guys.
Have a good night.
See you tomorrow morning.
So that's going to be 11 a.m. for me now.
Yeah.
All right.
Cole will call in.
Mashed potato face will call in.
You better.
Better put out there.
Yeah.
I'm going to go to the bathroom.
I'm going to go to the bathroom.
I'm going to go to the bathroom.
I'm going to go to the bathroom.
I'm going to go to the bathroom.
I'm going to go to the bathroom.
I'm going to go to the bathroom.
I'm going to go to the bathroom.
I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. Uh, yeah. All right. Cole will call in. Mashed potato face will call in.
You better.
Better put out.
All right.
Love you guys.
Talk to you soon.
Bye bye.