The Sevan Podcast - James Kelly | I BEAT HUNTER MCINTYRE

Episode Date: October 24, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 BAM we're live! Early in live. Don't even have the headset on live. Five minutes early live. Premium account on Twitter is required to create live broadcast. Oh shit. We need a premium account. All right.
Starting point is 00:00:16 I wonder if that's new. First things first. Tech Susa tell them we need a premium account. We need a premium account on Twitter to go live. Yo, Philip Kelly, what's up, buddy? This shirt was given to me by one of Sprague's buddies. It's too small. I got side boob hanging out on the side.
Starting point is 00:00:58 Yes, I'm early. I figured if I'm going to have the High Rocks champion on, I might as well have our champion also represent, right? Why is Daniel Brandon, Fabian Guerrero, how are you my friend? Hola amigo, como esta? Muy bien, muy bien. Y tu mama tambien.
Starting point is 00:01:19 Why Daniel Brandon throwing Shaded King Taylor? Tell me where. Your tan is cra- Is my mic off? Is my on your tan is crazy. I know right it's pretty It's pretty crazy is that a The fuck is that I got a zit under my arm must be all that TRT How do I get that the shirt I don't know. I don't know how you get it. When James won the games, one of his fucking friends was going nuts, berserk. And he was a cool dude. And he just said, Hey, you want this shirt? I said, fuck yeah. Fuck yeah. Danielle's Instagram. Okay.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Let's go over to the hottest chicken crossfit. The woman with the most sex appeal in our space Wow 800,000 followers holy shit she's killing it I wonder if Danielle would come on my show let me see what let me see damn kaboom okay uh isn't it sad when the only way people get attention is when they bring down other companies? Oh, maybe she- Is that shade at her own company, Rad? Is she making fun of Rad for going after Tier? Maybe that- Did she break up with Rad? Is that what that is?
Starting point is 00:02:42 The fuck? Anyway, let's see what else if the shoe fits wear it Jesus look at the heels on those shoes And damn her body's crazy Excuse me coach Coach L. Oh. Oh God. Looks good to me.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Oh, look at Taylor's story. Okay. Let's look at Taylor's story. How do I do that? I leave Danielle's story and I go to Taylor Uh self holy shit 13 000 followers, okay, and then uh I played taylor story
Starting point is 00:03:41 Uh, why do you do crossfit? Why do you coach it? Not that one. Two tickets to Rogue Invitational for 400. Bill Gates ordered to stand trial in the Netherlands in November over COVID vaccine injury claims. fuck that news. Mildek Kamala Kamala I don't know what this is looks like Joey Perret. Uh some girl with a nice finger complete track workout too. Victim to compete workout too. Post Daniel Brandon snatches oh dumbbell snatch news of the heat one up oh Pedro has a new heat one oh I gotta watch that oh oh shit do it or no balls fuck rad I like their shoes until your pipe bomb haha freakin so fit also I was
Starting point is 00:04:41 going to buy shoes from rad on the next drop not now shots fired the amount of people that message me saying they don't want to buy rad globals after hearing about shit business Practices as long and I am a nobody shots fired Daniel Brandon stop with the mirror selfie sub. What's a sub tweet sub tweet? At them you dork, oh you're mean oh At them you dork. Oh, you're mean. Oh Oh Taylor's mean and on oh, that's so cute that they're fighting a little bit. That's sweet And our unarmed man can only flee from evil and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it We traded Tulsi we traded fucking Tulsi Gabbert for Liz Cheney. What's
Starting point is 00:05:30 up dude? Hey, bro. How you going? Good. How are you? I'm well. Thanks for having me. You got the note on what shirts to wear. The shirts only on the show. That's awesome. Promo, promo. How are you, Savan? Fucking a little mini God in my own mind yeah of course you are so am I James Kelly now on the record that's definitely something that you decided to pop on the click bait for the video, mate. Hold on. I'm checking my text from you. You said, hi, I'm James Kelly. I beat the fuck out of that washed up guy, Hunter McIntyre. I'm in a verbatim right here. That's exactly what I said. I knew I'm waiting for a hunter to tech you we've had some We have a very sensitive we have very close friendship
Starting point is 00:06:31 You do yeah, I've heard I've heard you guys do and so sometimes it gets a little sensitive Around my representation of him. I was wondering if that was going to ruffling feathers, but you did beat him, right? What do you mean like it's sensitive? What do you mean? We're just we're very close. So we're emotionally connected. So, you know, like you are with your girlfriend You know what? I mean like your girlfriend like if she's in a bad mood you could end up being in a bad mood and you don't Even know why could be emotionally connected. I'm very emotionally connected to him
Starting point is 00:07:01 So if he's like if he's riled up, that could fuck my day up. Right, right, right. So you guys both have to be in on good terms with yourselves before you talk? Is that what you're saying? No, but to just to make it through my day, every single day when I wake up, I'm like, honey, are you good with me?
Starting point is 00:07:19 And she said, yeah. I said, do you love me? She said, yeah. And then I text Hunter the same thing. Sometimes I just put them on speaker phone and say it to both. I just call them honey. And they think I'm talking to both of them. Don't tell him I said that. Yeah, yeah. I get that. I get that with my girlfriend though, Savan. No, he's not. He's been on my show a lot. He's a good friend. He doesn't. You know, he, he has
Starting point is 00:07:43 been very generous with his time to me. But I don't think you did beat him and I don't think he would care. He loves a good rivalry. He just doesn't want me to disparage him. No, yeah, of course, man. He's a he's an absolute animal and he's done a lot for Hirox. I'll give him that. He's done a lot for Hirox, but, but yeah, no, he's a he's a good lad. Do you guys live close to each other or not?
Starting point is 00:08:08 Really? He lives in Malibu. I mean, uh, we're both on the West coast of the United States, the North American continent, we're both in California. He is, um, I'm about 300 miles north of him, just right up the coast. We live basically on the same, same distance from the coast. We're both on the coast, but, coast but he's in Alibu. He's in a really swanky spot. Man America's so big. I'm obviously from Australia and I'm in Australia right now. I don't know how smaller we are compared to you
Starting point is 00:08:42 guys but you guys are just massive. I didn realize, like Chicago, right? I was in Chicago last year. Chicago is like, like how many hours from California? I think my plane, it's like four, four, four hours. No, no, by foot. Yeah, I put, I put, you know, it's a good run. It's a few, it's a few marathons back to back. That's massive, massive country, mate. But, but James Australia is huge too. But you guys are just, you have fewer people and so they're kind of more closer to get. Have you been, have you been down under?
Starting point is 00:09:19 Only once. Yeah. Full CrossFit or? I was there with Greg. So I assume it was for CrossFit. Yeah. I was in New Zealand and then we passed through Australia for a minute. Yeah. Yeah, great place, great place.
Starting point is 00:09:36 We just had the CrossFit, the Down Under Championship on the weekend, actually. I don't know how it went down in Wollongong. I'm pretty sure Matt Fraser came over to be, I think he programmed for the Down Under Championship. So yeah I heard him and his bossy were there. Yeah yeah. Vibe is weird at the outset with Mr. Kelly. All right, we'll fix that. Sorry, curious. Oh, it should say by curious. Oh, by curious. By curious. Hey, so did you beat, did you beat Hunter in a competition?
Starting point is 00:10:16 You guys were in the same competition and you won. I came third and he came fifth so I I did beat him we either of us did not win and how much time did you beat him by do you know I think it was about two minutes I think it was about two minutes yeah that, that's enough to make a shaker bottle. That's enough time to make a shaker bottle Yeah I mean mate like I don't know how much you know about high rocks but Two minutes in our field like the elite field is is a substantial amount of time but as you are probably aware hunter wasn't on his game at all at at the world champs for
Starting point is 00:11:09 You know for reasons only he knows. But yeah, he's yet to race again this year. I know he did doubles the other day, but he's yet to race singles, so that'll be exciting for when he comes back. I had him on the show, and I'm paraphrasing but in a nutshell he just basically said he fucked up his training he overpeeked he thought you know he went longer harder faster more more more and then and then fell off the cliff and yeah and I think he actually did some um this isn't a very good word to use but some damage to himself by doing that So he's kind of in some sort of like, you know, basically in recovery neurological Neurological metabolic with all the systems. He's just trying to reboot his whole system
Starting point is 00:11:54 I think he I think he he didn't my words not his but from talking to him I think he freaked himself out a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, and that's what I heard as well But I'll be honest with you, not that I know exactly how he trains, but I think the way Hunter trains is, I'll be honest with you, the way he trains, I don't think I could be able to train. He peaks very highly, let's just put it that way. Whereas I think a lot of us other high rocks athletes not I look I can only talk for myself, but I don't necessarily think that I have a as much of a peak as much as he he could potentially have but
Starting point is 00:12:36 Yeah, he like he he's gonna come back firing this year I don't know when that will be but I've no doubt he'll come back with a vengeance. Well James, what do you mean by that? You mean that like he... let's say a peak is that... let's say there is like some singular point that's peak and what you're saying is to get... he took a risk to get so close to that singular point that maybe other guys aren't willing to take they'll get close to it to play it safe and Show up there and hope that they're maybe there but that they're they might be one or two steps away from it And you think he tried to go time. It's so fucking perfect that he fell off the edge maybe like yeah that that in terms of the peak right but also the way I kind of
Starting point is 00:13:22 train with my coach and how and how I kind of go about it is that I don't feel as if I have to peak so tight, if that makes sense, because my foundation is high in the first place. I'm not saying his isn't because his you know, cardiovascular and and foundational fitness is there but Everyone's different when it comes to training for higher ox because there's no one way one one style suits suits all still And the way he does and the way a couple of others do that I know of they try try to peak really highly and then kind of like, as soon as you peak, you have to come down.
Starting point is 00:14:09 You have to come down because you can't stay up there for that long and I think that's what he did wrong. Like I've heard, I think he peaked too early, tried to stay up there for too long and then he came crashing down, which was the result of the world champs, but It's interesting mate because we're still trying to work out the best way to train for this sport And everyone is kind of doing it
Starting point is 00:14:38 On on their own, you know, I have have you done have you been to a higher ox event no Not yet. It's the same as myr going to a Murph event pretty much that in my head You know what? I mean, it's just a Murph of it. It's a Murph of it you know, you do a Murph event at your gym every every Tom Dick and Harry shows up and I said this to mr. Hiller, Mr. Andrew Hiller. You guys will have a different respect for it once you see it live. Guaranteed, I'd put my house on it, mate, because the way Hirox kind of facilitates the whole day,
Starting point is 00:15:23 not just us elite, but for everyone that's competing It's something that I've never seen before logistics of it Talking about the logistics. Yeah, but I'm just talking about the actual event itself and how it's run and and also how they make People feel special by competing. Oh, oh, that's cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so Yeah, you'll you'll have to get out and and Have a look at one. They've been they've been very generous in the past. They invited me I can't the the the founder was on the show. I can't remember his name. It was over a year ago
Starting point is 00:16:00 He was very generous. He offered to bring me out to I think the event an event in Germany a couple years ago. I'm just so I just so don't want to leave home. I really wanted to do it. But I just I have three little boys and I just never want to leave home. And just to be clear, I don't think the the vibe there you're right. I have no idea what that is. But just to be clear, I don't think anyone in the CrossFit space or anyone who does like there's no one who sincerely thinks anything bad about high rocks in the CrossFit space. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like no one like people know that it's a fantastic expression of fitness. The fun we poke at it is just all fun. No one's like,
Starting point is 00:16:45 yeah, you know what I mean? No one's like, it's not like it's not like like French guys. We really do think they're pussies, right? We're not just joking fun. We just think that the French are pussies. But, but high rocks like we don't we know that we're like, you have great ambassadors in the sport, crossfitters go over there and do it whether you Everyone everyone in the fucking fitness space respects the fuck out a hunter of course Yeah, you know even as great even as greatest haters Respect them. They're like, I mean he's something special everyone. Yeah Yeah, and I think like obviously I'm biased of Savan, but I think over time that's gonna continue
Starting point is 00:17:27 because I see Hirox still continuing to grow as much as it has the last two or three years, but also from like the weekend warrior perspective and the elite perspective, like we're getting a lot more recognition and sponsors and stuff like that now so yeah well obviously I'm hoping that that continues as well. It's also a lot of CrossFitters are looking at a place to express their fitness right they put all this time into training and they're looking for places to test themselves
Starting point is 00:18:01 whether it be powerlifting meets Olympic lifting meets high rocks competitions marathons half marathons Just all sorts of shit. They're just looking for places to I mean that I You know there was but there was Spartan race and there was Tough Mudder There was this thing called Agnon or cragnar or there was something else and crossfitters are just looking for places to test themselves. And High Rocks obviously is the closest thing. I mean, it is. Do you think? Well, let me ask you this before you, you're trying to get me off the subject. You have the second
Starting point is 00:18:36 fastest time in the history of High Rocks races. Is that correct? Correct. Yeah. It goes Hunter and then James Kelly. Yeah. And then the last and then the last and then Hunter hadn't lost in a long time. And then this last race, a couple of people beat them and you were one of them. Yes. Correct.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Yeah. How close were you to winning the whole thing? Uh, I was, um, 40 seconds. Oh, 40 seconds. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:02 What's the last, what Is the last event to run? The wall balls. So it's wall balls and then over. Yeah. Is there a finish line or your last wall ball is your final point? No, no. Sorry. Good. Actually, good question. No, 100 wall balls, your 100th wall ball. Then you have to probably run 10 meters over the finish line. And how long does it take to do 100 wall balls in that final set? Like interesting to that.
Starting point is 00:19:29 I I normally take between 340 and four minutes. OK, to do that kind of bubbles. The guy that ended up winning Alex Ronkovich, the world champion now. He actually beat me in the first major of the Elite 15 series this year, two weeks ago in Amsterdam. He beat me my 20 seconds in Amsterdam and that was probably, if you think about it, that was probably 10 wobbles. So he beat me in Nice at the Worlds by about 40 seconds. Sorry, I'm pretty sure it is 40 seconds. And then two weeks ago he beat me again by 20 seconds.
Starting point is 00:20:14 So yeah, it can pretty much come down to 10 wall balls. So when you get to the wall balls and he's there, you're like, fuck. Well, I'll be honest with you. He's been able to develop his warbles to, or warbles in high rocks at the end of the race, he can do unbroken warbles. And he's done that three or four times now in a race. I haven't been able to do that. So it's just something, and there's something I'm working
Starting point is 00:20:47 on with my coach to be able to be compromised like so much in training to then get after it, try to do 100 unbroken. So yes, he's a man to not want to see when it comes to the wall balls at the end. Did you get to the wall balls before him in Amsterdam? No, I was I was probably like I was probably like five seconds Or 10 maybe 10 seconds after him
Starting point is 00:21:14 But it's interesting just on that Like to be a bit more specific If you see how he warbles he he's got a very, sorry, I've got a faster cadence than him. He's kind of like a little bit slower, but he just hangs onto the ball like for some reason. If it was 200 wobbles, he'd probably be able to do 200 unbroken.
Starting point is 00:21:40 He just bloody doesn't drop it. So I was actually neck and neck with him for a little bit, but I wasn't able to hold on to that ball. So So yeah, it'll be interesting because we've got another major race in Four weeks time in Hong Kong. So he'll be there. I'll be there So you're on the circuit? Yeah, man. Yep So you're on the circuit? Yeah man, yep. Was Hunter ever on the circuit or did he just show up for the World Championship? Yeah like he's got the option to be on the circuit but he chooses, well he chose not to race in Amsterdam and I'm
Starting point is 00:22:20 not sure if he's racing in Hong Kong or not. I've heard that he's not. But Hirox have created this Elite 15 series now, which is it's a season. We've got four major races, circuit as you said, to allow you to try to get your qualification for the world championship. And yeah, like Hunter's got an auto qualification as do four five others of us so Yeah, so um, we're in Hong Kong in five weeks time In do you have Amsterdam Netherlands? That's one you mentioned then Hong Kong yeah, and then if they're not at war in two weeks and Las Vegas Yeah, and then Glasgow and you're saying that
Starting point is 00:23:18 Because of his placing as a previous champion he can just show up. Where are the world championships next year in Chicago in June? Okay. All right. Yeah. Yeah Could I go up to is your do you have enough accolades to just show up or do you have to do this? I do. You do? I personally do because I was auto qualified through placing third at the Worlds last year. And then also not only that, but I've already qualified for the World Champs now due to coming second in Amsterdam. So myself, Alex Ronkovich, who we've been talking about, obviously won.
Starting point is 00:23:52 He cemented his spot. And then another American lad called Rylan Shadegg secured his spot for world. So yeah, man. So we can do it. James, I have great news for world so Yeah, man, so News for you. Yeah. Yes. Someone just solved your wall ball issue. Here we go You should only train with a 30 pound wall ball. There you go And I bloody hate the thing thanks Chris appreciate it mate mate It's it's funny because I've done Sorry, I can't remember. Is it Helen 150 warbles unbroke or 150 warbles for time? No
Starting point is 00:24:35 No, um, it's like Karen. Yes, Karen. Yeah As you probably say in your country caught it Caught it. Karen. Do you say Karen or Karen? Karen. Karen. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:53 That's how you say it. Okay. Yeah. Karen. Okay. So you've done Karen. Done Karen. And no, sorry.
Starting point is 00:25:01 I haven't done that unbroken. I've done 130, mentally dropped it. And when I say mentally dropped it, hindsight hindsight to beautiful thing, isn't it? Yeah, you're like you drop it and you go god damn it. Like I could have kept going but um Yeah, I'm sure that there's there's a lot of us elite 15 is that can do that unbroken like But Yeah, it's only a 20 pounder. So I do a lot of training that that is with the with the 30 pounder.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Hi, sweetheart. James, when you when you were in Amsterdam, where when did you put the ball down? 67, I'm pretty sure. And do you feel it coming on? Do you know it's 64? You're like, fuck. Oh, funny. Savannah.
Starting point is 00:25:53 I said this to my coach. Am I actually am I girlfriend? Like I, as soon as I jumped on the ball, that's jumping on the ball. As soon as I started the war balls, right? Yeah. Within five, within five reps, I knew that this was gonna be a taxing time. I knew it wasn't gonna be like a unbroken set.
Starting point is 00:26:20 So got to 60, I think it was 67. Managed to get to 67 and then scrape through the scrape through the rest. So, so yeah, James, a bit of a yeah, there's something that probably high rocks athletes do that CrossFit athletes don't do. Have you have you ever had a commute like that's like There I used to drive between Santa Barbara and San Francisco, you know one time when I was slinging weed I did it like 22 weekends in a row bringing weed back and forth from the Bay Area to my college town and I started you start breaking the trip up. You see a tree you see a certain exit
Starting point is 00:27:02 You start breaking the trip up, you know where to get coffee. Since you've done this so many times, are there like, is it like just a story in your head? Are you like, like, like, okay, I'm at 52 wall balls, okay, I'm in the clear, or you always have the same thought at seven wall balls, it's like seven, you're like, fuck, I'm not gonna be able to do this. Do you start? Are you seeing reoccurring patterns? No not for me because my training is very much just aligned with like just training for
Starting point is 00:27:36 overall fitness as opposed to high rocks so if someone walked into the gym that I train at, sometimes I do impact strength and conditioning on the Sunshine Coast of Queensland in Australia. But if I, if even like yourself, if you walked into my gym, like sometimes you'd like you'd walk in and go, oh, he looks like he's training for CrossFit. There's a lot of CrossFit components to my training. I wouldn't say I train like a CrossFitter because there's no like skills and lack of like gymnastic stuff. But going back to your question now, I never because every race is different
Starting point is 00:28:22 to me and the feeling of every race is different and I think that's to do with the the very nation the the the very training that I that I have um I look I don't know if everyone's the same because I think the way I train is slightly different but um yeah. Do you cross the finish line and collapse on the ground or do you cross the finish line like fucking pumping your fist in the air? Neither. Neither. I've got this thing in my head,
Starting point is 00:28:54 I'll be honest with you, I never collapse on the ground. It's just this thing that I just never ever have enjoyed seeing and also doing myself. But I never go like this either I'm not I'm not prancing around either you're never just like like like burning off extra steam or so fucking pumped or on a high like you'll see that in CrossFit right you'll see some you'll see like the guy who wins come across and fucking whale you know what I mean like a like a
Starting point is 00:29:25 skin-panty fucking it's mate doggy style just going fucking bonkers just burning off steam and then everyone who finishes after him collapsing on the ground and so the guy who won he's probably also just as tired but he's got you know that that endorphin rush from just winning. Yeah, but also like is that from the endorphin rush or is that him, is that his character? Is that his persona coming out more than the actual win? I don't know. Most of the time I don't think it's actually showmanship.
Starting point is 00:29:58 I think it's like more primal than that. Right, yeah. What do I know? I mean, that's a good question. I should probably start asking than that. Right. Yeah. What do I know? I mean, that's a good question. I should probably start asking him that. I just feel like when I see the guys cross the finish line and they have energy left over that they're blowing off,
Starting point is 00:30:14 I just picture it as kind of like a tea kettle, right? Blowing off steam. Yeah. And not so much bravado, not so much like poor sportsmanship. I just see it as like, hey, they're just like, you know Yeah, it's an interesting like here's another thing that's kind of very similar Oh, it's kind of not actually if I think about it, but ask males race the elite 15 miles, right? Yeah
Starting point is 00:30:38 and we finish and we're pretty kind of like Respectful and we shake hands and you know, we wish each other luck beforehand and then afterwards and whatnot. The women go and for some reason, like and I'm not criticizing either sexes here, but the women when they finish,
Starting point is 00:30:58 they go down and actually cheer on the last competitors finishing off their warbles. Yeah. So it's just interesting how we, I personally would never, well, one, I probably would never want that happen like happen to me, but also I probably wouldn't go down and cheer on the,
Starting point is 00:31:18 the bloke that's coming 10th or the 11th or 15th, right? But it's just interesting how some like the women obviously do that and then we we don't us I don't know why it's just the men have never never wanted to or I don't know but there's not much like proper oh I don't want to use the word ego like Yeah, there's ego like there's always ego in in the sport But most of us lads that that race in the elite 15 are pretty well we respect each other and and and Try to respect each other whether it is before the race or after the race
Starting point is 00:32:01 You know CrossFit You know CrossFit, when the seminars first started up 2004, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, those first like 13 years, the culture was disseminated in the training program. So you would go do your two-day seminar and they would disseminate the culture in the program. And there's a very strong culture in it. It's like carrying other people on, being happy for people's achievements, all of that stuff.
Starting point is 00:32:30 And then as the sport grew, the athletes, because before it was like, it was just people in your local gym who would make it to the game, so they would bring that culture there. You know what I'm saying? And then as people got more focused on just winning the games and not so much being a part of some sort of like community, the culture, it's not as strong at the highest level anymore
Starting point is 00:32:56 because those people have, have it weren't ever entrenched in like opening their own gym or training at an affiliate or those types of things. So our culture has gone through a shift. I don't think high rocks is probably their culture is probably not. Well, maybe you're I'm guessing well, you're saying it's a really fun event that it's got a really good vibe when you're there. I guess that culture for high rocks is kind of at the event or it's taught at the event. Right, right, right. Yeah, but are you saying that that kind of has diminished over time with CrossFit? Do you know the fact that people are just more hungry about their own achievements and doesn't care about anyone else's? Is that what you're saying?
Starting point is 00:33:36 Because maybe, I don't know, maybe I haven't thought about it that deeply. I mean, I'm sure on some level, but also it's just like it's become more like, so some people think of CrossFit as a sport. I don't, I don't think of the people who go to CrossFit gyms. I think of it as a lifestyle protocol for people who want to take personal accountability and responsibility for their wellbeing. You know what I mean? Yeah. And the group of people who are capable, like if there's a fire, you want to be around those people cause they could help you grab your children
Starting point is 00:34:04 and get them out of the building. And those are the people who aren't going to if there's a fire, you want to be around those people because they could help you grab your children and get them out of the building. And those are the people who aren't going to consume the resources that your fucking local hospital and you know what I mean? I just as they as I see it more as a culture lifestyle protocol that optimizes the human genome, right? Practice, eat like this practice like this move like this, and your body will express itself in the way it's supposed to And you get surprised every morning when you get up naked out of bed here Then of course there became prize money. Some people were like
Starting point is 00:34:37 They didn't get that part I think that I think that what I described is the vast majority of people who do CrossFit 99% and then there's this 1% that is that's forgotten that but then there's some people who still have both you know what I mean the Panchenk brothers Spencer and Saxon they still know both Taylor self he still knows both you know what I mean but it's uh but there's these training camps now and there's kids who just started in a training camp and they've always been in a training camp. And so they don't really know the... they don't live the culture. Even if they know it, they're faking it. And I don't mean that in any negative connotation. It just is the evolution.
Starting point is 00:35:18 Yeah. And like, I... Just like High Rocks... sorry, one final thing. Just just like high rocks. There's 3,500 people there's 15 I'm making this up, but there's 1,500 people there who at some point maybe want to be elite and win it But 3,500 people are there because their entire crossfit gym came or they came with their they've always they've run They run a race every year with their mom and their dad and their brothers. That's the vast majority of your Your cohort right exactly and I reckon what you're saying there is right, like CrossFit as a lifestyle, as a methodology has created like just in general,
Starting point is 00:35:53 just like healthy human beings, right? And I personally think Hirox has kind of got that, well, not mentality, but Hirox have started to create that lifestyle. I don't know, choices like it, like you probably see it, Savannah, online. Like so many people have a high rocks, I don't know, something in their bio
Starting point is 00:36:14 or as their display photo now. And it's created this like whole, not just the race itself that they've got coming up. It's your high, you're a high rocks athlete, you're a high, it's living that high rocks lifestyle now. So yeah, like I agree with you, it'll be interesting mate and I don't know like CrossFit as you said as a methodology and as a lifestyle, man that'll never die, like it's's always gonna be there whether it is called CrossFit or not doesn't matter But then obviously as as as we know like CrossFit games and the actual elite side of things like who knows right?
Starting point is 00:36:57 Yeah, is Hiroks still owned by just one guy I I don't know. I've heard that no, I've heard that some company has bought it out or is going to buy it out. But I can't. Yeah, I just don't know. There's rumors of that. When I had the owner on, I think he told me he was building it to hopefully sell it. Like he was building it and hopefully sell it. That'll be interesting to see how that affects, um, hopefully it has a better effect on high rocks than it did on CrossFit. Yeah. Like did you, so you had Christian, was it Christian, the, the, um, I think it's a German guy. He's a car collector. Um, he's got a couple of kids, gray haired guy, very well-sp German guy. He's a car collector. He's got a couple kids gray-haired guy very well-spoken
Starting point is 00:37:48 Yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's he's the founder. Yeah, so Yeah, it'll be interesting to see if he ends up selling or or whoever ends up taking over But you like you guys still don't know what's going on with the CrossFit Games Do you like nothing has come out? um Games right. I mean we know that there's gonna be an open We know that there's gonna be a games
Starting point is 00:38:19 You know, there's time there's tons of rumors. I Suspect, you know, I have my hopes and aspirations that the leadership of the company will not take the influence of the professional CrossFitters seriously, that they'll just, you know have I have no interest in what they think other than like I have no interest in what they think about for the future of CrossFit like zero like not like none like I see them as as an accoutrement you know what I mean like garnish on the plate and I think it's nice having
Starting point is 00:39:02 garnish and I think it's nice having them and it's a and it's great but they're their input on the future of CrossFit like interest me like Like little to none. I want them to shut the fuck up and train or open a gym or something like that me personally So what's gonna happen if CrossFit? Come out and go no changes to their What was it like for four rules or four things moving forward And then you mean like the man's the professional athlete Yeah, and then these guys end up going well, we're not like
Starting point is 00:39:36 Well, do you personally think they'll end up competing? Yes So they'll still compete. Of course they will. They have no, yes, they have no um... Other option. No, it's not that they have no option. They don't have any, they don't have it, most of them don't have any values in the first place. They're just um, they're just twitching and people of the popular. You know what I mean? I would, what I mean most, let me say 50% of them have no values and no... Like everything that they said was bullshit anyway They were they were they're just
Starting point is 00:40:13 It's it sucks what happened I don't mean to to the emotion and how hard it was for them, but Like the guy that they got one of the guys are asking to step down He fucking started this thing and was never paid for fucking doing the games ever He was head of the training department. He ran the games as for fucking you know, 18 years on his own he started in his backyard at his house and it's like Their character at that moment should have been to rally behind him and CrossFit and the affiliates and instead they fucking WAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN It's fucking despicable. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, but yeah Like yeah, I has anyone died in a high rocks event like had a heart attack or a stroke or a no
Starting point is 00:41:13 I made touch wood like why like not and I know for a fact like That there's I'm sorry what? What I was about to say doesn't necessarily mean that CrossFit and the CrossFit games weren't on top of health and safety and whatever, but I know that Hirox, every event, like they go over like everything triple, quadruple the amount of times just to make sure that like everything's kind of replaced. But at the end of the day, like, who knows if,
Starting point is 00:41:53 how can I put it, like, whether or not you've got the best health and safety protocols for something that is not meant to happen happening, something could still happen, right? Because a person could be not fit enough or not equipped enough to do a high rocks or to do a CrossFit games or to do this and that.
Starting point is 00:42:16 And then as a result of something bad happening, CrossFit, high rocks, triathlon gets a bloody slam, like gets slammed because something bad happens. But look, like that's, yeah. Two guys died in Triathlon in Spain, in the Triathlon World Championships in Spain last week. I heard. Yeah. I know. I know, yeah. I heard that. Alright, like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:42 Not one, but two. Two. Yeah. So. Yeah. I right, like. Not one, but two. Two. Yeah, so. Yeah. I mean, yeah, yeah. As a part of me that like, I heard this from, I think, actually, I think it was Rich. I think it was one of your podcasts with Rich,
Starting point is 00:43:00 like recently actually, and he pretty much said like, even like subconsciously you don't think about it going out on the floor and going out to compete but if you think about it what we're doing as professional athletes there is always, always a smidgen of opportunity, not opportunity, but there's a small percentage that something might happen, health-wise. Like, you know what I mean? I'm pretty sure Rich was the one that said,
Starting point is 00:43:35 like, you're pretty much going out there to put your heart and soul on the line, so you're pretty much going out there to pretty much have a percentage of something bad happening but yeah I don't know July 24th 2024 Australia's surfer's leg washes up after shark attack I just googled Australia's shark attack washes up after shark attack I just googled really a shark yeah yeah at his fucking leg bit off and in fucking in your country
Starting point is 00:44:10 where where about sorry we should laugh but where about yeah the seven-legged surfer was a track dark is washed up on an Australian beach with doctors now racing to see if it can be reattached guy I'm Kenzie 23 with suffering your port with doctors now racing to see if it can be reattached. Ky McKenzie, 23, was suffering near Port Macquarie in New South Wales on Tuesday. He won a great white shark 10 feet in size, bit him. Hey dude, my kid, so we had the largest number of sightings of 12 foot great white sharks off the coast of my house this summer.
Starting point is 00:44:41 My kids were out there surfing every day. There were 48 babies. Yeah, 10 feet small for a great white Yeah, but man we get we we get some hefty ones. Um yeah, everyone asked about our sharks and our crocodiles and Yeah, they're gonna read it well that would be crazy if they washed ashore and they reattached it. Yeah. The first recorded fatal shark attack in Australia was 1791. She was bitten half.
Starting point is 00:45:20 It was a female. It says, uh, injury. Bitten in, it was a female. It says, uh, injury, bitten in two. Shit. Let me see, let me go down to the end here and see how bad it is. Oh, it's split up by territories, my God. Well, yeah, you go in the water, yeah. So there you go, surfing, surfing's dangerous as fuck.
Starting point is 00:45:45 Yeah, you guys have alligators, don't you? In uh, not in my part of the country but down there in the south where the dirty french live. Yeah, that is uh, You're right. That's correct. See um Nick um nick bear is doing high rocks, um dallas Um in a in a couple of weeks. It'll be interesting to see how he goes. He's a big dude, right? That's the supplement guy. That's the supplement guy, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Big guy, yeah. Hey, are you too lean? You look pretty lean on your Instagram. Are you too lean? Do you ever think, oh shit, I look pretty lean on your Instagram? Are you too lean? Do you ever think oh shit? I need to put on five pounds No answer your question no, I want to make sure I run fast and Right now I'm
Starting point is 00:46:39 I'm running fast. So yeah, how tall tall are you? There's my girlfriend. There's my girlfriend Savant. Yeah. Georgie Leslie. You ever gonna ask her to take that nose ring out? No. I love the nose ring, mate. All right. It brings like, it brings a bit of substance to her.
Starting point is 00:46:59 Did she have it when you started dating her? Yeah. Yep. So she's always had it? Absolutely. Yep. She's always had it. How tall are you? 5'11", but on a good day, six foot. Yeah, fuck, so you're tall and how much do you weigh? I'm not tall at all, mate. 5' is not tall. 5'11 is not tall? Well for me it is I'm 5'5. You're not, are you? Wow I thought you were taller than that. On's that? 176 pound I think. Yeah man, you're a fucking lean mean fighting machine. You're ready to fight. You have fighting weight. Yeah. Yeah, like I think I could put on a couple of kilos or a couple of pounds at least but
Starting point is 00:48:06 I've always ran really strongly when I'm about 79 to 80 kilos, so That's the most important thing for me to To make sure I'm running well What's crazy is you've only been doing high rocks two years, but happy anniversary, by the way, like October 12th or something with your two year anniversary. Yeah. Thanks, man. Where'd you hear that?
Starting point is 00:48:31 You know, just people tell me stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So two years. Yep. Yep. Congratulations.
Starting point is 00:48:41 Why did you start? I was playing, I was going to say I was playing Aussie rules football. Have you, have you seen Aussie rules start? I was playing I was gonna say I was playing Aussie rules football. Have you seen Aussie rules football? I have. Yeah I was playing that for all my life beforehand and and I was a personal trainer and I loved fitness and I just stumbled across and I'll give him credit for this I stumbled across Hirox through Hunter. just used to love watching Hunter on on YouTube some would cross it and just Went over to London and gave it a crack That's what I used to play. Yeah, god damn
Starting point is 00:49:17 It's it's brutal mate Like this is like elite level. have professionals I like I never played professional But um we used to run like 10 15 kilometers a game So It's pretty crazy. What's the most you've ever weighed James? 85 85 after a big like What's the most you've ever weighed James? 85 85 after a big like Contiki tour in America actually I was on the on the drink for three weeks. I put on like five kilos
Starting point is 00:50:01 187 so that's only 11 pounds more crazy dude. Yeah. Go ahead, go ahead. No, I was just going to say I've never wanted to be big. Like I've never had that like, you know how like a lot of males like as we grow up, we get to the gym and want to put on muscle and stuff. I've never felt like that. I've always wanted to be lean and want to put on muscle and stuff. I've never felt like that. I've always wanted to be lean and mean to run well.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Me too. I wanted to be like Bruce Lee. Yeah. I wanted to be skinny as shit or like Brad Pitt and Troy. Yeah. That's fit to me. Like that's, that's like, yeah. Um, so yeah, no, Summit-Rox through Hunter went over and did my first one and
Starting point is 00:50:51 that was two years ago and kind of the rest is history so far. What was your first time ever? My first time ever was 59-53. Oh, and like, I'll be like, I'm proud to say I'm the first like, athlete on debut to go under 60. Yeah. And I was so naive, to be completely honest, I had no idea what I was getting myself into. But I just went over and had a crack and did well. And now I've been able to shave that down to, shave that down by six minutes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:28 Hey, when you did that 59, did you start with Elite Guys or did you start with just the fucking regular Joes? No, I started in the pro category. Yeah. Yep. And how many dudes are at the starting line for that? That was probably like 30 in my wave, yeah. Yeah. And when you ran recently in Amsterdam, how many dudes are at the starting line?
Starting point is 00:51:52 15. And how do you guys decide where each of you are going to stand? Is it a tussle? No, it could be because there's no right to this to the to the Right like the start line. It's just first come first serve. But as I said like Everyone kind of respects themselves. So Sorry respects each other And like think about it there's only 15 of us so there us, so there's probably like 3 rows of 5. You know?
Starting point is 00:52:29 But, yeah. And you have chips. Yep. So wait a second, so you guys aren't all on the same starting line at the same time? You guys are staggered behind each other Yeah, but staggered like a meter right so like yeah, there's a little stagger Three two one go we all take off and the guys like well I was in the first start or the first kind of line
Starting point is 00:53:01 The guys are rolling behind me straight up like straight off so doesn't really matter if that makes sense yeah that's a trip is there any advantage to being in the back because when you cross the starting line you're already moving you know like a rolling start well here's the thing right it depends on you like it depends on your tactics of your own race. And like a lot of people that don't know hierarchs or aren't into the elite kind of system, like everyone in the elite have their own like strengths and weaknesses.
Starting point is 00:53:41 So it depends on who you are. But for me personally, like I always want to be like, I'm not going to give even a meter away. You know what I mean? So do you make sure you get in that first wave? Are you at the starting line when you start? Yeah, yeah. And look, I don't want to sound cocky here, but like I, I make sure now because of what I've done recently, right? Like, you know, I make sure that I'm there and, and, and I'm not giving an inch away because there's no point. Um, but as I just said, everyone's different, man. Like I know for a fact, the guy that came third in Amsterdam, like there was a few races back like last year
Starting point is 00:54:30 where he decided to have like 20 seconds after the three, two, one goes off. He literally just stood there and gave us all 20 seconds just to not, just not to be in the kind of hustle and bustle of the first like a couple of hundred meters so everyone's different right um how did that work out for him hey that means theoretically he could win the race but someone could finish ahead of him well it depends on when his chip i guess goes over the line i'm assuming don't know, but he ended up coming second.
Starting point is 00:55:05 Like, he's an absolute weapon, absolute weapon. So it's a long race. Think about it, right? We're going, we're out there for, well, let's just, I'm out there for 54 minutes, let's just say on a good day, right? 54 minutes, like that, like tell, that should tell everyone that it is, it is a long race
Starting point is 00:55:29 number one. It is more an aerobic effort than anything else. No matter what you say about the sleds, it's still an aerobic effort. So in his eyes, probably like giving 20 seconds or whatever didn't really matter. And it didn't because he came second. Well, you don't think his chip started until he crossed the finish line. He doesn't know. No, no, no, I've got a feeling I'm wrong there. I've got a feeling the chip would have started. You think they say go and everyone's clock starts.
Starting point is 00:56:01 It's not when you cross. Correct. No, with us. Yes. With us 15. and everyone's clock starts it's not when you cross correct no with us yes with us 15 it's we say go and the clock starts everyone I'm pretty sure then that's wild that you let people get 20 seconds ahead that's wild yeah yeah and to have a great time you have to have a perfect race like you can't have a shoe come untied or lose your water bottle like every second counts to have a good time, you have to have a perfect race. You can't have a shoe come untied or lose your water bottle. Every second counts to have a, if you're going for a world record.
Starting point is 00:56:31 Yeah, absolutely, man. And we talk about how even if you're 1% off, if you wake up poorly, you could be 1% off and that could be the difference between a 54 to a 56 and that could be Five six places, you know Have you ever had any equipment malfunctions pushing your sled and something falls apart or the timer turns off or something like that I've had I've had one where The ski erg I was about to like I ran into the ski erg, which is the first station, and my one of the skis, like my right ski erg handle was wrapped around the wrong way, if that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:57:19 Yep, yep, yep. And I started to pull and it just didn't come down. And I started to pull and it just didn't come down. So it literally cost me three seconds because all I had to do was wrap it back around. But that's the only thing that's touch wood. That's the only thing that's happened poorly with me. Apart from that mate, like nothing major has really gone wrong.
Starting point is 00:57:44 Like malfunctions or anything. Like, nothing major has really gone wrong. Like malfunctions or anything. Hey, I was covering an event a couple weeks ago, the crash crucible, and a guy was pulling the ERG, and if I recall right, one of the handles came off. Oh shit. Yeah. I mean, they wheeled one in like within five seconds. They had like three right there backups and they just swapped it out and brought it right back in but
Starting point is 00:58:08 Hey, I heard you talking to Hiller about range of motion or it is Not for the elite but just for like You're the guys who do it once a year with their all their brothers and sisters or the people who come to gym On the wall and it is just with the wall balls that I've seen do they have any range of motion rules for those guys? They do those guys it's not just hit the target it doesn't look like that they're going even close to parallel looks like it's just Hitting the target. I'm not being critical of it. Like I don't do it. I know I know and the way you just asked Was a lot more polite than Hila
Starting point is 00:58:49 Well, I already said the nice thing so I'm already already She's hot she's hot I'm just She she's so hot. What are you gonna do? What are you gonna do? I'm just you know, she's so hot. What are you gonna do? What are you gonna do? My Audience will not let my audience won't let me get away without asking about someone's nose ring. I've already made Judgmental so I had to do it but go on So here's the thing about that right? Hirox has been we have standards like like whether it is us in the Elite 15 or the Weekend
Starting point is 00:59:27 Warrior as you just described. The Hilla videos that sometimes someone like him puts out or anyone else that has put out a video where as an example the warble depth isn't to depth, that it isn't to depths. So yeah but also like he's he's he's the thing about that like that's just one video out of 6,000 people that end up racing on the day. Of course there's going to be someone who can't do the standard and it's up to Hirox to actually end up going well what's the what's the protocols here are we actually going to go you know what you can't finish the race then goodbye like or are they end up going to go are they end up going to go, are they end up going to go like, is what it is
Starting point is 01:00:27 he's not out there or she's not out there to break the world record? You know what I mean? Like I think they end up, I think they end up deciding due to circumstances, right? But I'll be honest with you, here's another example. The CrossFit competition down the road from you probably have waves or people that aren't doing standards either. So it's just one or two videos that have gone viral that have kind of just got people thinking, oh my God, high rocks don't have standards, but we have, we have,
Starting point is 01:01:07 we do have strict judges and strict standards. Have you ever been no rep? Yeah. Yep. I've been, I repped, um, on the burpees burpee broad jumps. I've been, I repped on the wall balls. Yeah. What what's up with the burpee broad jump? Like you shuffled your feet or something? They make you go back? Yep, pretty much.
Starting point is 01:01:27 So you can't have a staggered stance when you're about to jump. It's got to be two feet at a time. And I've been told to come back. It's a five meter penalty. So I've been told to come, like it's a five meter penalty. So I've been told to come back five meters. In this fast paced world, staying sharp in focus is a non-negotiable. That's why more professionals are turning to Mudwater,
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Starting point is 01:04:07 to keep your mind sharp, Mudwater is here to help you feel your best naturally. Start experiencing the benefits of functional mushrooms today. If you were probably, I'm just making this shit up, but if you, like most things, if you were to watch, go watch Murph being done at a gym You know, like they do the Murph on on holidays here in the United States I'm guessing you would see People who don't get their chin over they they think that they did a hundred pull-ups 200 push-ups and 300 air squats and not a single one of their reps was good and I'm guessing that that's like
Starting point is 01:04:46 5% of the crowd and I'm guessing 10% of the crowd half their shit ain't Legit and I'm guessing 50% like so like that's the thing, right? You're you're in who cares who gives a fuck like if you did fucking Murph like kudos to you You know what? I mean, you jumped on the bar you gave it a fucking tug a hundred times to try to get your chin over. You got the... But for most people, I think... And if you're going to have an event with 6,000 people, I mean, how could you possibly... I mean, you'd have to have some sort of rule in place like, hey, if we give you more than 10 no reps, you're fucking off the course. Yeah, exactly. sort of rule in place like, hey, if we give you more than 10 no reps, you're fucking off the course.
Starting point is 01:05:25 Yeah, which would then would just kill the community aspect of it. Like, I mean, it's like, in higher, everyone has to do the run at the beginning of end of Murphy, and everyone has it has to traverse that two miles mile and a mile then and everyone has to traverse. How far is high rock? How far is the running? I, I come in as yeah, yeah. Yeah. So everyone has to do the eight kilometers. Everyone's going to have to get the fucking meters on the ERG.
Starting point is 01:05:49 No one's getting off the ERG early and shit like that. Right. And everyone's going to have to make some fucking attempt at jumping in the burpees. Um, but, but that being said, that is Hiller's job. I don't, I don't, I don't think he's ass pounding high rocks as a whole. He's just, his consistent, his shtick is standard movements. You know what? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like, yeah, but you just nailed it.
Starting point is 01:06:13 He, well, you just nailed it. There's probably a 5%. And due to the fact that that 5%, or those 5% of people, aren't out there in the elite waves, aren't going to potentially get a world championship qualification in their age group, like, Hirox ends up going, no, we're still gonna give them the opportunity to finish a Hirox, do well, celebrate, et cetera. But yeah, by the way, Savan,
Starting point is 01:06:55 Hila, I love Hila. I think the way he articulates things is very professional as well, but also, geez, he's a nice gentleman off camera as well. Right. He is. I'll give him that because we see Hilar, Dean Hilar in his videos and I'll be honest, there's some that I hate, there's some that I love, but off camera, mate, he's's a gentleman he's an absolute gentleman Have you met him in person?
Starting point is 01:07:27 No, no, no, it was just that one video, but we had up maybe 20 half an hour afterwards just chewing the fat so Good dude Yeah The the The The tension between high rocks and CrossFit. Well, let me start this. Do you think high rocks is a CrossFit workout?
Starting point is 01:07:55 No. It's not? No, because can I ask you, is this workout a crossfit workout or is it just something that a workout that I just created in my head, like five rounds of one mile run and 20 dumbbell snatches and 20 box jumps? Like, is that a crossfit workout or is that a fitness? Is that a workout? Okay, I hear you. So Let's go back to 2010 it's 2024 but let's go back to 2010. Yep. Then is is high rocks a CrossFit workout?
Starting point is 01:08:43 Do you see what I'm saying? Kind of like, I get it. People are used to seeing ropes now and squatting below parallel and low carb diets and cutting out sugar. And, um, but, but I mean, even 10 years ago, it wasn't like that. Yeah. But, but what you're saying is valid too. You know what I'm saying? Like, okay. So you, obviously there were people doing, obviously throughout, since the
Starting point is 01:09:04 dawn of time, someone's been doing something that's not really, you know, But what you're saying is valid too. You know what I'm saying? Like, okay, so you hodgepodge. Obviously there were people doing... Obviously throughout, since the dawn of time, someone's been doing something that you could point to and say, yep, that's CrossFit, right? The guy who was fucking moving rocks as fast as he can between point B to his cave was doing CrossFit, right? Yeah. It's just that Greg Glassman has come out over the last, let's just say 20 years. Or not only Greg, but CrossFit as a whole has just kind of taken the fitness world by storm. Let's call it the fitness world by storm that people see or hear of the workout that I just described, a one mile run,
Starting point is 01:09:46 dumbbell, whatever, and go, oh that is CrossFit. That is CrossFit. You know what? Some people would even think, oh my god, CrossFit actually owns that. And CrossFit owns it. But also like CrossFit don't own anything. Right. You know what I mean? Like the CrossFit, CrossFit, the CrossFit methodology. Um, no, like high rock, the high rocks workout isn't a CrossFit workout. It's a fitness race.
Starting point is 01:10:22 Is that your hot girlfriend there behind you sitting down? Just another hot Australian chick. Okay. Hey, do you train CrossFit for High Rock? I have a lot of CrossFit components in my training savant, but I don't train CrossFit. No. Like if I had to go down. Tell me what you're going to do tomorrow. Are you going to work out anymore today? Yeah, I've got heaps more actually Okay, what are you gonna do? What you're gonna do today? So this morning Tuesday Thursday's I have my thresholds and I have My running thresholds in the morning. I've just completed Four by ten minutes at at my LT one pace and then I've got a I've got bench press today. I've got bench press and some
Starting point is 01:11:07 tricep extensions and I'm doing I'm doing a heavy heavy bench press cycle at the moment for my warbles actually so I'm doing I'm doing 10 by 3s today. 10 sets of 3. Will you do incline? Will you do incline bench? Nah, nah, nah. Just straight. And then I've got a Hirox little GPP which is sled push,
Starting point is 01:11:38 rowing, and farmers carry. CrossFit. Go ahead. Crossfit. Crossfit. Crossfit own that. They actually have the rights to that workout. Then I've got a double threshold. Tell me the workout. Tell me the workout. That workout you're gonna do that had sled pushing. What was the other two pieces? Go ahead. Yes, so five rounds of 500 meter row, 50 meter sled push at high rock feel. Note feel, 100 meter farmers carry with 32 kilograms each. each arm. So tell me about the what was the point of telling me 50 meter feel meaning it'll be on the same surface that you guys same surface and weight that you guys do high rocks? It means that
Starting point is 01:12:37 the way that I warm up is to just load up the sled and to do you know five meters or ten meters of increasing weight to the point where I think that this weight here is how it feels on race day as opposed to just putting 203 kilograms on the sled. Because every gym is different. Every carpet, every sled track is different. Does that make sense? Yeah. You know what I like about High Rocks, which is something that you said that the athletes don't talk about, but what I kind of like, because it reminds me of NASCAR, is the fact that there are different courses. And that's kind of cool.
Starting point is 01:13:18 You know what I mean? Like it would be cool to see it even go to like places where it's raining outside. I know all your events are inside, right? Yeah, I think they're starting to do outside events now. Yeah, it's kind of cool, right? Because then it's like, you know, like there's different marathons. It was like, I had a Charlie Lawrence on, he's a runner.
Starting point is 01:13:44 And he was talking about running the 50 or the marathon and it was marathon or 50 mile or in San Francisco. And just how fuck the courses right and like turn and it's just kind of cool to hear like yeah, there's different places or like you know, sometimes at CrossFit events, like you'll see the ones in Asia and it's like run 800 meters and they're running through a maze. Like you'll see the ones in Asia and it's like run 800 meters and they're running through a maze. Yeah Yeah, yeah, I think it keeps people on their toes because if I do a race in Amsterdam and Then a race in Hong Kong in five weeks time the actual layouts and the course will be different So I've got to be prepared for that, right? But yeah, so that's um, that's that work. 500m row, 50m sled push, 100m farmers carry times 5. And I'm not going at a red line intensity, I'm getting through that volume. It's more about getting that workout done as opposed to doing it For time if that makes sense. Yeah, and then what was the one you just did after that?
Starting point is 01:14:51 so I've got after that I've got um a compromise running like LT2 threshold session, which I'm doing 800 meter runs into warbles And then I've got my skier Uh my skier thresholds to finish off the day Which are five uh, four by five minute threshold, uh efforts Um, so any crossfit workout is technically a crossfit workout. Yeah, right
Starting point is 01:15:22 So any hit workout is technically adopted from CrossFit. Oh please. I don't need you to read it for me. I read it fine, James. So any CrossFit workout is a HIIT. Yeah. We got some peachy shit. HIIT. What high intensity interval training, hey? Jesus Christ. Kamala's present. I hope that when we start censoring things full blast, I hope that's one of the first things we censor no more use of the word hit just call it. Hey, Savannah, it's interesting. And like, I'm not trying to criticize Hunter at all, not criticized at all. He's done so much for our sport. But it's really interesting that he's kind of if anyone's into fitness and they know Hirox or they know CrossFit and you say Hirox, everyone knows Hunter, right? But it's actually like interesting that Lauren Weeks, who is, she placed second at the World Championship last year but she has
Starting point is 01:16:28 got six or seven titles, like big big titles more than him which is interesting because Hunter obviously is high rocks or people think that right but when it comes to like in my eyes who I don't know like how to say this but if You think about like who if you think about like this chick right here this chick right here Lauren weeks that that's her there. Yep. Okay. Yeah so she's got like six or seven like big titles when it comes to like world champs or major races compared to Hunter and like that's not me criticizing Hunter at all. It's
Starting point is 01:17:16 just people think Hunter is high rocks when like Lauren's got like five or six titles on him, which is interesting. Like, and it might just be because of Hunter being the personality that he is as well. So- Let me ask you this about her. So, was she, it says CrossFit level two. So I'm guessing she's a trainer at a CrossFit gym or was- And then she was. Yeah. Okay. And she's a mom. Is she competing? Oh, this is what I was going to ask. Is she hot? Yeah,
Starting point is 01:17:55 she's hot. Thank you, Matt Burns for asking the important questions. She's super fit. I did doubles with her the other day and I could not keep up with her. Could not keep up with her. Did the women's division take longer to develop? Was the men's division developing faster? Because that happened in CrossFit and now it it's it's now it's not like that Now you never know what you're gonna you could show up to any competition. You don't know what's gonna be the stronger division The answer to that is due to Hunter. Yes, and I'll be honest with you due to Hunter being who he is And what he's done in the past. I think people have been
Starting point is 01:18:42 like people like recognize the male field in the past more than the women but now it's, to be honest, now it's probably, now it's definitely on par if not the women. I think the women get, I personally think it's on par because of the talent and the fitness in the women's field now. What is she? Where does she live? Salt Lake City. She's not Australian. I think Hunter told me to have her on. She's great man. She's actually great.
Starting point is 01:19:29 Hunter told me to have you on too by the way. Is that right? Is that right? Yeah. Oh look there she is. I just want to say I'm listening and appreciate you James Kelly. Oh, thank you Lauren. There you go. Damn she thank you, Lauren. There you go. Damn, she's done it all. Yeah, she's a weapon. And obviously, as you can tell, she's done, yeah, she's competed.
Starting point is 01:19:57 I think she's CrossFit Games regionals, obviously, that has done a lot of Spartan and and trial and ultra running. Hirox world champ. And cutting in comments from lifeguard competitions. They always make fucking great cross. Yeah, I'm just trying to go back here and see if there's any if I wonder if I oh look and she's done stuff with the buttery bros. Yep.
Starting point is 01:20:24 Yep. Is she still in it? Is she still active? Yeah. Yeah. She, she won in Amsterdam. She won the women race in Amsterdam two, two weeks ago. And then, uh, she's, she's coming to Hong Kong in, um, two weeks
Starting point is 01:20:42 time or three weeks time. I wonder what Jim this is. Yeah, so she's a Utah girl. She probably knows T-Burn Marge. She's probably, I wonder how long she's been- Utah, yeah. Yeah, I wonder how long she's been, how many years she been doing it?
Starting point is 01:20:59 You said she has six or seven years? Yeah, no, I think she's done it for four or five out of the six, out of the seven years that Hirox has been around. But she's got like, she's got like every title under the sun. Does she have a nemesis or has she been dominant like Hunter? She's been dominant. She's been the the utmost dominant athlete that we've ever had She came second at the World Champs last year to Meg Chikobi. Have you heard of Meg Chikobi? I have heard that name She's another American athlete
Starting point is 01:21:54 Who won last year. So there's, yeah, like, you know, it's not just Lauren going out there and going out for a Sunday stroll. She's got to throw down to win and she did that in Amsterdam. She won by about 40, 45 seconds I'm pretty sure. So yeah, the women's field is interesting because it has always been Lauren and Meg and then kind of everyone else. But now it's kind of like the other girls are catching up as well, which is great. Hey, do you coach any people doing high rocks? Yeah, mate. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:35 Are you interested? No, but thank you. I mean, I am. I'm interested in your coaching, but I'm just For myself Yeah, I've got um hundred and I actually got a hundred and forty two I saw it this morning a hundred forty two athletes on my books now Yeah, I've got twenty I've got no 18 one-to-ones and everyone else is on a program that I that I offer Yeah, so it's going well, actually.
Starting point is 01:23:06 It's going really well. And are they predominantly Australians? Okay. No, I've got half-half Australian and then the UK. I've got a big following in England. So, and then I've got a chunk from America actually which is good But yeah, so no that's um, that's gone really well, that's that's pretty much my full-time gig now Does hunter sign up for your training so he can peep what you're doing and get ideas because I know that the athletes here do
Starting point is 01:23:39 That in the states in CrossFit, though, you know check each other's trade all their Do you think they actually do that? I don't think they would oh Yeah, definitely like I bet you every single athlete knows what mayhem is doing I bet you every single CrossFit Games athlete subscribes or gets mayhem training sent to them and proven You know, I think they all do that. They're all they're all peeping each other. They're they're checking out and and from the guys I know who sell training they'll tell me about athletes who purchase their training. They'll be like, oh shit this guy, you know But he just purchased my training
Starting point is 01:24:15 I mean, I can't blame them that I would I would do that if I would hunter I would purchase your training and see what's going on. It's not unethical. Not at all, but also I'm like, in my head, like, yeah, but also it's like, well, anyone can have the training and anyone can have like, let's just say you get the best program out there for high rocks. Like that doesn't mean anything you've still got to do the work. So what I'm saying is like like grab like grab it if you want. Yeah. I probably would never do that though, personally.
Starting point is 01:25:07 Because I'm like, no, I just want to focus on myself, right? You wouldn't watch any 100 vlogs of like if he put out a video and says my training, my 13 weeks training prior to High Rocks World Championships, you wouldn't watch that? No, like of course, like, that's how I got into High Rocks, right? Like I just loved seeing what he was doing. Now I'll be honest and I'm not afraid to say it, now I don't because what's the point of watching what other people are doing, like when I've got my own kind of plan to go towards, right? And also, as I said, man, like Hunter, I'll give him credit because he's an animal
Starting point is 01:25:54 and the way he trains, as I said at the start, like wish me luck if I had a crack at what he does because I don't think I could do what he does. And the kind of like the level or like the the training kind of blocks that he does that makes sense it's totally different to what I do Can people watch high rocks live? Yeah. And can they track? If you go on YouTube, the last Amsterdam race was live and it was like commentated,
Starting point is 01:26:37 there was commentary. They're really pushing out a lot more content and a lot more like live coverage of events as well, which is what you need, right? Because that's the only way you're going to grow the sport is... I mean, Spartan grew huge and I don't think they covered their events, right? Yeah, true. But also, as we all know, you can have the best kind of race or sport if you're not producing the content and marketing and advertising.
Starting point is 01:27:19 There's no point in it, right? Yeah. Pointing it right yeah, um the new world champion high rocks elite 15 men highlights 776,000 views That's pretty big isn't it right like dude that's crazy massive. Yeah, that's massive. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's crazy Elite men starting this hunter McIntyre James Kelly Ryan Kent Oh Willis oh shit they really do cover it yeah that's amazing you should check this out man yeah and it's
Starting point is 01:27:57 and it's commentated and and everything God that's beautiful oh look there's Heber. I saw Heber in a shot. Yeah yeah the boys those boys were there. Yeah there he is. Wow this is cool. This is this is the one this is the one where you took third? This is the one I took third, yeah. Are you going to win it, James? Yeah. Yeah. That's the plan, mate.
Starting point is 01:28:35 It's going to be tough, but that's the plan. Anything else you want to add? You want to talk politics at all? I was gonna say I would love to know what what your thoughts are on what's what's happening. What's going to happen? I think that your country and the rest of the country should be watching very closely because if the United States falls,
Starting point is 01:29:09 we got a fucking real big problem on our hands. And the censorship here is fucking really, really strong. And it's being rolled out just the way all the other regimes that took over their countries rolled out They say that they're fighting for equality and that they call the other side exactly what they are themselves And it's fucking wild man. They'll they'll and and unfortunately For the most part it is the weak it is the weak versus the strong, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:29:43 I mean the general stereotypes and in the weaker uh they're they're they're uh they're speaking from a place of like deep deep fear and they're like cats backed into a corner and they'll try to win by any means necessary violence cheating scraping censorship it's crazy dude I had my channel pulled down for a week for saying that uh uh fitness and diet are the best things you could do For your health And the wh because that doesn't follow Is that right wow, yeah, yep Yeah, I mean, yeah, I I don't have
Starting point is 01:30:22 enough knowledge and understanding to to comment um on the American kind of political game at the moment, but it looks hostile. I mean, I'm actually listening to Trump's audio book, like his biography at the moment. Yeah. And man, he's a, yeah. He's a different, he's a different species, isn't he? Yeah, he's totally different. People are having trouble accepting him.
Starting point is 01:31:00 That's for sure. I was one of those people also, but the American people gotta get past whatever issues they have with him, That that's for sure. I was one of those people also but The American people got to get past whatever issues they have with him whatever like character expressions of character or Human behavior that they see that they don't like they get they better get on board with policy Does it I mean it's it's fucking it's crazy here It is truly
Starting point is 01:31:24 I mean, I'm in the Bay Area in California and California has just gone to shit. It's like all of our big cities have turned into like basically third world countries. There's there's there's sectors of them that are just really fucked. I mean, San Francisco has fallen apart. I mean, our biggest department stores, we've had, you know, all the drug stores, grocery stores, everything is either closed down or has bulletproof glass everywhere to stop stealing. It is a very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, we've had, you know, all the drug stores, grocery stores, everything is either closed down or has bulletproof glass everywhere to stop stealing. It is fucking bizarre here. Now, of course, we're a massive country. So most of the country doesn't see it right. But there are these five or six major cities that are that are just turned
Starting point is 01:32:00 into fucking Tijuana. You know what I mean? Mexico. Right. And just like why is that happening though? Like that's not to do with the election coming up though, or is it? No, no, because so there's this there was this so basically it all comes down to this one thing. We had the we had a we had the George Floyd riots happened basically this officer Derek Chauvin putvin, put his knee on someone's neck and there was a dispute on whether he killed him or not or the guy died of a drug overdose. And it was, whatever you think that happened,
Starting point is 01:32:36 the guy had three times the lethal dose of fentanyl in his bloodstream. So if they would have found him at home, it would have been considered an overdose Media and the president of the United States at the time and all those people politicized it and it became completely Taboo. I mean literally in the in the in the greatest expression of it became completely taboo to say anything about anyone Who is doing anything violent or stealing? especially black people Right, and then from there it went to now black people have been left in the dust.
Starting point is 01:33:08 They're not even the protected class anymore. Now it's like, it's like men who want to be women are the protected class. Like it's just shifting to more and more abnormalities. And there's this whole group of people in this country who want to protect anyone or anything for any reason that seems to be getting hurt. You know what I mean? So if you had some man raping a woman in a bathroom and we beat him up, they would come after us because we picked on the tranny. Yeah. Yeah. And it's fucking it's like we a court case started in New York City where there
Starting point is 01:33:43 was a guy on a subway. It started yesterday. A guy on a subway was screaming, I'm going to kill all you people. And a Marine grabbed him and choked him and held him on the ground for 15 minutes. And when he let him go, the guy was dead. And everyone, all the witnesses are like, hey, dude, this guy said he was going to kill us. He was just holding them until the fucking police got here. And the guys, the guys being fucking charged for murder.
Starting point is 01:34:01 Wow. It is what's happening is, you know, you could, all the people who were like, yeah, we have to protect all black people, they're on board with that. But then all of a sudden they're letting men in women's bathrooms and getting raped, and they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, I dropped,
Starting point is 01:34:15 like people are waking up as they're pushing this extreme more and more. Like in California, if you are an illegal alien and you rape a child, you're not, we're not allowed to deport you Yeah. That doesn't even seem real, right? Yeah. That's the most powerful fucking landmass on planet Earth. California, that's what we're living under right now. And it's not just the landmass. It's the landmass that's going to be the most powerful landmass on planet Earth. It's the landmass that's going to be the most powerful landmass on planet Earth.
Starting point is 01:34:44 It's the landmass that's going That's the most powerful fucking land mass on planet Earth, California. That's what we're living under right now. And it's, so it's fucked up. Yeah, it's fucked up. So that's what we're going towards, November 5th. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, well look, yeah, best of luck.
Starting point is 01:35:04 And I hope, I don't know. I don't know what to say about it, because I don't know as much as probably you do, man. You guys have a lot of this. You guys have the same shit happening there, right? More and more. We do, mate. Just creeping in. It's like, Whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm compassionate to to a certain level but like that dude can't be in the bathroom with my daughter. Very woke man and and yeah I like yeah it's um it's a it's an interesting world but I yeah I try to steer clear of it as much as I can right um you know like and I'm sure you do as well you know and especially having three boys I'm sure you do as well, you know, and especially having three boys, I'm assuming, mate. I don't have any kids yet, but jeez, I'm like, not hesitant, that's not the right thing to say, but man, like, bringing up kids in this day and age
Starting point is 01:35:57 must be tough, because they probably hear things at school or even just on the streets, and they're questioning, they probably question everything because they are kids and they should but also like they don't know what's right or wrong either and you can't send your kids to school in the United States. I don't send my kids to school, I'm raising my own kids. Right yeah because they'll say shit to them that's like completely ridiculous, they'll tell them the Sasquatch is real. The Bigfoot is real. And I don't want anyone telling my kid Bigfoot is real. And then two years later they'll be studying his breeding habits. And it's like, wait a second, it's not even real.
Starting point is 01:36:30 Now you're studying his breeding habits? It's like, no. Hey, if you're interested in, trust me, it's the best thing that you could ever do. Pull the boy in and get that beautiful girl pregnant. Just like, you know, you're going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going It's like, Hey, if you're interested in, trust me, it's the best thing that you could ever do.
Starting point is 01:36:48 Beautiful girl pregnant. Just cover and baby, cover and baby batter. That's the plan. So that's the plan, right? Good to talk, man. Absolutely. Thanks for coming on. Thanks for taking time out of your busy schedule, and we'll chat again soon. Thanks, mate. Talk soon.
Starting point is 01:37:09 All right, ciao. I have to pee. I drank a cup of coffee for this. I think I have seen the movie U-Turn. The fact that parents act differently is all you need to know. Yeah, I think he opened up a door that maybe he didn't want to open. But another thing is, is the fact it's crazy that people don't speak up more people aren't speaking up. It's just crazy how scared people are. I understand. I understand not wanting to lose your job. Coffee at 730? Yeah, I know. Because this he was at I like James a lot. But James is actually He's pretty high energy when I text with them and exchange text with them. He's pretty he's pretty wild He's he's content Chris. I thought he was gonna be a little more
Starting point is 01:38:12 Edgy and And So I was like hey, I just can't come in here I was dragging ass this morning I'm like, I can't come in here dragging ass like I did this morning So I was like fuck. I better drink a cup of coffee You know what I mean? Hey, how about listen listen if you're not a UFC fan and you want to be a UFC fan, I'm going to show you something to watch go watch YouTube. I'm going to show you what to watch here because because this weekend something's crazy is going on and
Starting point is 01:39:12 Something's pretty quick there's a crazy fight this weekend and You want to watch it But on Friday Darien Weeks and Tyson Bajan are coming on at 1 p.m. Pacific Standard Time together, and we're going to talk about the show. And I am so fucking excited. So there's two, if you've never watched the UFC before, there's two things you want to do. Yeah, you kind of kind of. UFC party at the house kind of I'll explain that in a second. So these, you want to type in UFC embedded this vlog, right.
Starting point is 01:39:50 And start at one, but there's actually, um, where is the, uh, where's the, um, there's a 48 minute show. It's so fucking good. But maybe if I go to videos. Where's the 48 minute? Oh, UFC countdown. This is what you want to watch right here. This is what you want to watch. They do this for every UFC, all the big shows.
Starting point is 01:40:27 So once a month they make one of these. Abu Dhabi. Abu Dhabi. The crown jewel of the United Arab Emirates. The crown jewel. And the epicenter of combat sports in the Middle East. Every time. And then basically they'll walk you through all the characters i'm a fighter since i was born fighting i am a fighter ever since i was born this guy's
Starting point is 01:40:51 name is the matador the matador the map from spain anyway he's fighting max holloway from uh hawaii who's the fucking coolest dude ever uh anyway that that that's you you should watch that UFC 308 countdown full episode first And then you should watch the vlogs and you should do that in the next You should do that tomorrow tonight and tomorrow if you're not watching Dexter. You don't talk about Dexter season 3 and then and then and then on Friday Tyson Bajan and Darien will come on and we'll, and we'll talk about the card. I'm so pumped.
Starting point is 01:41:30 So pumped. So normally my kids train on Saturday morning, uh, over at the gym. Uh, but we have a, a big jujitsu room here at the house. So they will, uh, the instructor will, the, the fights start at 7 a.m. But the main cards at 11 a.m. So it's four hours of just prelim So basically the instructors will come over here probably at 9 the kids will train till 1030 we'll have a TV on in the room showing the prelim fights and then Will order a shitload of brisket and everyone will get around the big 90 inch and we'll watch watch the fights. So that's the plan They matador the mat the atrina the matador
Starting point is 01:42:15 Rogue with the seven podcast I noticed it's putting on a lot of Instagram followers, it's gonna pass me soon Go going, going rogue. Going rogue. Going rogue. Going rogue with Sevan. Booyakasha. Almost 3,000 followers, geez. How hot is this chick? What was her name again? Not Bailey Rao. Obviously you're gonna run, you're gonna push and run, you're good at that. Brittany Weiss.
Starting point is 01:42:57 You knew what you had to do on the deadlifts. Where were you on the burpees? I pushed a pace on the burpees. Is she going to rogue? I need to, I need to have some rogue. Are there any rogue athletes that will still come on this show? Who, who, uh, who can, what, is there a list of, let me see rogue, uh, rogue, oh, uh, rogue invitational. Let's see if there's any. Ah.
Starting point is 01:43:31 Tickets, schedule, prize purse, partnerships. Oh, here we go. This chick's going to Rogue? Taylor Williamson, to the invitational. Oh, Scott Pancik. Oh, come on. Oh, Saxon, Saxon Pancik. Um, I shouldn't wait pad on just to see what happens.
Starting point is 01:43:58 Um, Oh, uh, BKG might come on. Jason might come on. Ariel might come on. Oh, Ricky might come on. Jason might come on. Ariel might come on. Oh, Ricky might come on. Alexis might come on. Oh, Gazan might come on. All right. So there's a few that might still come on. I'm gonna watch all this. We're gonna do post shows for all that. You could probably get Williamson on. She's been on before. I think things are good with her. Is she competing at Rogue? What is she doing there? In one word, a psychopath. That's her boyfriend, right? The field at Rogue is stacked.
Starting point is 01:44:46 Come on now. Oh, she must have qualified through the online qualifier? Dude, wouldn't that be crazy if she fucking won Rogue? That would be fucking nuts. That would be awesome. Yeah, that- oh, her husband, whatever. Husband, boyfriend, it's all the same shit to me.
Starting point is 01:45:03 Yeah, that or husband whatever husband boyfriend it's all same shit to me Right My nose is running I wish I did Kleenex you guys know my rule about no Kleenex back here, right I Blow my nose in the exerciser oh no oh no I wonder if Darien knows oh yeah sweet fuck that's awesome Darien's in What is this? Have you guys seen this new Instagram account? What is this? WPTH. What is this?
Starting point is 01:45:58 The CrossFit Crash affiliate program. We prefer the hate. Well, What is this? The CrossFit crash affiliate program. We prefer the hate. Well, I'd like to be an affiliate. I would like to be an affiliate. I mean, I wonder what JR is doing here. Holy shit, 490 followers already? Oh, you think that's what it is? You think it's, wow, the premiere of JR Howell programming wow I didn't even
Starting point is 01:46:47 Let me see CrossFit crash affiliate program. Oh programming oh Affiliate program oh shit that makes what I wrote makes no sense All right fuck it what do I care? I'm not doing anyone else's program and I program for myself. Chuck Carswell was live today on the CrossFit YouTube station. That's pretty cool, right?
Starting point is 01:47:25 That's pretty cool, right? That's really cool. Choke. Chokey. They asked him about the support that Trump has and Obama's response is, you know, Trump didn't, he didn't actually do anything for his base because all he did was roll back government regulation. You know, all he's doing is cracking down on federal government. He's torn some stuff down.
Starting point is 01:47:55 He hasn't, there's no law that he's passed that is transformative in this country. You can't name a piece of legislation that he's done that has actually changed the country, even for his own constituents. So it's always easier to tear down than build up. That is the very essence of doing things for people is rolling back regulation, coming down on bureaucracy. If you want Americans attached at the hip to the government, then sure, have the government step in to every nook and every cranny, give government unfettered access to literally every single thing and You'll be successful But if you want genuine American progress genuine American freedom if you want production then the way you do it is by rolling back
Starting point is 01:48:36 Government regulation and government overreach they're interviewing Obama they asked him about yeah, I need that hat shadow Jackson plumbing That's that that Taylor needs that. That's an awesome fucking hat. Taylor you need this hat. God what a fucking cuck Obama is. That's a dope hat guys a plumber if you don't follow him oh you should It's a fucking great account. Chado. Chado Jackson. Chado. God, I have so much shit that I've... So I'm just showing just... This is like shit I never thought I would show. It's just late. I should be inside with my family instead of fucking around. Paying attention to what's happening in Scotland right now, where a law has just
Starting point is 01:49:47 been passed and in Ireland, where they're considering a similar law. These are what's called the new blasphemy laws. You might see them in third world countries play out differently. But here in Western democracies, they're called hate speech laws. And Ireland has said the quiet part out loud, which is that they shouldn't define what hate speech is because that would limit the amount of prosecutions they can have under the law. Most of the governments in the Western democracies around the world have religious freedom and
Starting point is 01:50:14 free speech guarantees in their governing documents, but they're not worth the paper that they're written on when activists and judges are able to come in and gut those protections and when citizens are too apathetic to stand up for their rights to insist on their Enforcement the United States is the last Western country in the world that is resisting this type of government Censorship do you taste the bitter fruit of lies in our culture? Because when laws embrace those lies what we know comes is injustice misery and human suffering Dude, I don't think it's not fucking coming. There it's coming where you're gonna say I love Christians and it's going to be
Starting point is 01:50:53 considered hate speech against Arabs. Don't think it's not coming. Oh, put the sunglasses on. Sorry. Thank you, Barry. Don't think it's fucking not coming. It's coming. It's coming. That that that that whole thing, hate speech, defining hate speech, it's going to become offensive to say, I love straight men. That's going to offend someone. Look at it. It's already like that. Socially, it's already like that. You can't say I love straight men That's gonna offend someone look at it's already like that Socially, it's already like that. You can't say I love being white
Starting point is 01:51:29 White white white white white. I love white. I love white chicks. I love white guys Love white dick It's already like you can't like you can't say it. I like I like I Like pink vagina, I guess that's race neutral. Hirox's CrossFit. Yeah, hate speech. Jesus, it's coming. If we're not careful. We're already there socially. You know what I mean? We're already there.
Starting point is 01:52:10 We're already there. The good thing is that the script has been flipped on black people. Some of them were okay with it when they were part of the protected class. And now that they're falling down, you know what I mean? The trannies and shit are like surpassing them on the victim They're like they're like waking up more and more and then soon as all it's gonna take is someone's fucking you just gotta wait to your daughter You gotta wait to your daughter that gets raped in a fucking bathroom or to your boy turns 15 years old and he fucking
Starting point is 01:52:39 Hates you because you let him take hormone blockers when he's 13 and then slowly people will change. But man, man, oh man. Oh, look at this. I wonder what this was about. This is old. I'm just going through old notes. Vakey, Vakey, this might shock you.
Starting point is 01:53:03 I really enjoyed the 2024 CrossFit Games, catching up with friends. I only get to see once a year doing what I love, taking photos and being creative, and most of all watching my Aussie friends achieve their dreams and winning the games. I also thought about Lazar's family and close friends often. I had moments during this weekend when I felt heavy,
Starting point is 01:53:18 knowing the pain they were going through. It made me appreciate those around me a lot more, that's for sure. For me to think Lazar or the Jukic family cared at all about whether I went home Thursday, kept working the weekend, smiled or cried is crazy to me. What they are going through is well beyond any decision I make or feelings I'm experiencing. When tragedy strikes, reacting is never a good option. Reflecting is a better choice. The truth will come out. Let's hold back with accusations, finger pointing and blaming.
Starting point is 01:53:42 Lazar, I didn't know you, but learning that you call Jesus your Lord and Savior brings me joy. I look forward to getting to know you in paradise. All right. Oh, look, Justin Shannon, Maderas, Matt Fraser, Jake Douglas. Oh That's a fucking really cool shirt Matt's wearing That looks great there. Oh
Starting point is 01:54:15 He was probably working oh is that James Newberry He was at the games We'll see an individual Anyway, all right. You guys want to just keep going through old notes that are just like old and like they should have been shown months ago. What's this I have? I have something on Tyson Bajan. Let's see. on Tyson Bajin.
Starting point is 01:54:45 Let's see. Oh, James won the team comp. Oh shit. Congratulations, James. He won with Kara Saunders. Oh, that's awesome. Karin Khan. Who is the other chick? They had three dudes. Is Tyson Tyson single I don't think so I think he's I think he's dating some girl He knew when he was 13 or something. I don't know that could just be a rumor. I don't know. Let's ask him
Starting point is 01:55:15 The first play he was in there. He fumbled the toss play His hands has got to tighten up his game a little bit more. Let's see if he can be sharper today He's lined up on the near side as the outside receiver. Bajin floats it down the side. Puts down Penis again. They team up for another touchdown. That's textbook. Beautiful read. No hesitation. Yagana life. This room, this quarterback room of the Chicago Bears, Tyson Bajin even shows improvement from last year that's quick on a fade route from the slot in a perfect spot by Pettis he knew right away as soon as he stepped back where he was going that's Lance Robinson a rookie out of Tulane who was pretty tight on Pettis
Starting point is 01:56:00 that ball had to go to one spot twice I think Horta touched out throws he's thrown into a spot right Oh, Tyson. Good dude. I got another link that says Tyson Bajan. Let me see this one. Oh, it says, sorry, this page is unavailable. That was probably nudes of him. him oh yeah oh yeah that would be a big fuck you to Kristoff what would oh oh you think Tyson and Gabby go can you hook Tyson and Gabby. Oh, can you hook Tyson and Gabby up? Oh shit. Wow. I think Gabby's had her fill of me. I think she did kill Taylor and that's the she doesn't want to get too close to the sun. You could get burned. Harris campaign mandating COVID vaccine to work
Starting point is 01:56:59 for her. So in order to be work for Kamala Harris, you have to be updated on your seventh booster. Vice President Kamala Harris presidential campaign is mandating the COVID vaccine for those interested in working for her. On the official presidential website for Harris and her running mate, Minnesota Governor Tampon Timm, under the option Work for Us is a list of job opportunities with the campaign. The individual jobs pages contains a list of responsibilities and qualifications, and underneath those is a paragraph about being vaccinated. Harris for President requires all employees be up to date on COVID-19 vaccination status as prescribed by the CDC as a condition of employment unless otherwise prohibited by applicable law.
Starting point is 01:57:38 What a fucking cunt. What a fucking cunt I'll throw in there with noble and todd medley and all those fucktards that work for fucking noble And anyone who pushed fucking noble, how about fuck you? you scumbags I'm gonna look up what the uh, i'm gonna look up what the uh current Uh Current uh vaccine I'm going to look up what the current, uh, current, uh, vaccine COVID. What's the word I want to put in there in Google? Current vaccine, current COVID vaccine. Um,
Starting point is 01:58:21 what's the word someone help me. What's the word? What was the word? She, uh, uh, uh, if you're all caught up, uh, caught up, uh, that's not right. Caught up on your boosters. I'll just be current vaccine COVID guideline. Uh, um, help me out Bernie. What's the word I want to Google? Oh, schedule, CDC schedule, CDC schedule. Is that what it is? Is that what I want to put in?
Starting point is 01:58:55 Vaccine recommendations by age official COVID website Vaccine ingredients like I fucking believe you Everyone ages six months and older should get 20 24 20 25 COVID-19 vaccine the COVID-19 vaccine helps protect you blah blah Who needs a COVID vaccine? What's the importance of staying up to date? Like what booster are they on? Oh, here we are. Schedule. Children 6 months to 4 years.
Starting point is 01:59:29 Holy shit. At 6 months, your kid should get 2 doses of the Moderna and 3 doses of the Pfizer. Is anyone really doing that? From 5 to 11 they should get one dose. People 12 years and older should get one dose this year. What booster are we on? Holy shit I better get off this before I fucking lose my account again. When did you cut your hair? What do I mean?
Starting point is 02:00:16 I cut my hair live when I was in Newport. I don't know. Two weeks ago? A month ago? Fucking nuts. I better stay away from all the COVID talk. I should donate money to PragerU, I fucking use so many of their fucking clips. Or they should give me money for showing them. Unpopular opinion, but systemic racism is a problem. Let's talk about it.
Starting point is 02:00:56 In 2021, the largest public US companies hired over 300,000 people, and of those new hires, only 6% of them were white. Apple recently opened up their entrepreneur camp applications only for female black Hispanic Latinx and indigenous developers explicitly excluding whites and Asians. And not only is Apple openly violating the Civil Rights Act but the liberal media is actually applauding it saying that corporate America promised to hire a lot more people of color and it actually did because nothing says equity like telling a black person they got the job because of the color of
Starting point is 02:01:29 their skin. I find it pretty ironic. Holy shit. Only what was it the top five biggest companies in the United States have hired 300,000 people this year and only 6% of them have been white? How much the left talks about systemic racism but doesn't seem to realize that what they're describing is a system they created called DEI. Unpopular opinion, but systemic racism is a problem. Let's talk about it. In 2021, the largest public US companies hired over 300,000 people and of those new hires, only 6% of them were white. So that was 2021.
Starting point is 02:02:11 Apple launched an entrepreneur camp and you have to be female, black, Latinx or indigenous? No whites or Asians? Doesn't that even just sound like not even possible? That's why it's okay to ask someone if they got their job. I mean, I mean Kamala's a DEI hire I mean Biden admitted that and Katana G Jackson or Brown or whatever name is on the Supreme Court and the senator for California that chick those were all DEI hires Gavin Newsom said that He's gonna hire a black woman. That's why it's okay to ask someone if they're fucking anything besides a white dude Did you get the job? Because whatever, say it, because you're
Starting point is 02:03:09 a chick or you're black or because you're a dude that likes dick in his mouth. It's like totally fine to ask that. Not because it's appropriate, because, but because it's real. I'm just cruising right now. I'm going through all sorts of fucking old clips. This is good. Well, shut down only some of the businesses. The essential businesses got to stay open. So we opened up immediately within 24 to 48 hours.
Starting point is 02:03:46 The state came down on us with a vengeance, just trying to serve a cup of coffee to a willing customer. And they said, Nope, you can't do that. Five civil cases and two criminal cases were thrown at me. There have been near a hundred thousand levied against me in fines, fees, et cetera. I went to court. I was not allowed to present my defense in a court of law. I was found guilty. While I was in jail, I missed out on Christmas with my family, my wedding anniversary, the birth
Starting point is 02:04:14 of one of my grandchildren. My business is gone. Tim Walls destroyed my business, wrecked my life. There was no statute. There was no law that allowed Governor Walls to do what he did. I've heard some people say that Tim Walz is a real nice guy. He's not. Take my word for it. Governor Walz shut down only some of the businesses. The Ascent- How do they call Republicans fascist when there's stories like this?
Starting point is 02:04:47 It's fucking nuts. Oh shit, I should have asked James Kelly. I should have asked James Kelly if he wants me to send him an exerciser. Is Fideid, does Fideid fuck with high rocks athletes? Oh, this is gonna be good. I can tell already. Someone's got a mask. I don't even know what this video is, but someone's got a mask on. It was in my notes. Here we go.
Starting point is 02:05:33 Particularly concerned that the harsher penalties proposed in this bill will disproportionately impact marginalized communities, especially members of the LGBTQ community. What you just heard was a specific group claiming that if California makes it a felony to buy a child for S-E-X, it would have a very negative impact on them. And you know what's even more sick than that is the fact that the California Department of Finance just came out in opposition to this bill.
Starting point is 02:06:04 Why? They say it's too expensive to be putting away finance just came out in opposition to this bill. Why? They say it's too expensive to be putting away all the predators. This is what I was just explaining to James Kelly. This is exactly what I was explaining to him. They want to pass a law. They want to pass a law in California that would make it so fucking if you're sexual predator they fucking make the crimes especially towards children that the crime would have more severe penalties
Starting point is 02:06:28 and these fucking idiots from the fucking it's not the lgb community it's the tq plus zyz community are saying hey it would disproportionately affect us isn't that admission that your group is child predators Your group is child predators? You can't make this up. On top of that, two committees, the Assembly Public Safety Committee and the Senate Public Safety Committee, amended the bill to change it from its original form.
Starting point is 02:06:59 Originally, it would have made it so that a person convicted of this act would have to register as a sex offender for 10 years and Would have had to have been in prison for two to four years on top of facing a $25,000 fine, but they've changed this so that instead this doesn't protect 16 and 17 year olds It doesn't make it a felony to do that to them But also if you do end up doing it to someone that's 15 and under, it can be charged as a wobbler, either a felony or a misdemeanor. Our state is run by sick pedos and our governor hasn't even come out and condemned all this. Shameful.
Starting point is 02:07:39 That's fucking nuts. It's fucking nuts Barry mccaugner if you are a shit performer, but a DI can it you still keep your job? So the board can say look how diverse we are yeah An acquaintance of mine who is a firefighter Was doing firefighter training and during the training, one of the people he was training with, who was a DEI hire, did something that's an automatic fail. It involved a burning building scenario And When they reported it they said hey normally they said so that person automatically fails and they said no
Starting point is 02:08:32 In the exact words they use that person falls under the protected class For a firefighter It only hurts it it hurts it only hurts everyone. Those firefighters still got to run in and get trannies and black people and Mexicans and Asians and they got to get everyone. It only hurts everyone. Titties! How does a baby get from breast milk?
Starting point is 02:09:14 First of all, it gets cholesterol, which is not in the formula. Babies absolutely need cholesterol. But people think that cholesterol is bad. Cholesterol is essential for the baby. You know, little boys make testosterone at levels of an adult male until they're six months old. And that programs them to express male characteristics and puberty. What is testosterone made out of? Made out of cholesterol.
Starting point is 02:09:41 Did you hear that? Babies need cholesterol, boy babies, in order to make testosterone so that they can express their male characteristics. There isn't cholesterol found in baby formula. I wonder if that's if that's true that's crazy. All the hormones, I mean, and cholesterol. And if that baby doesn't get cholesterol and can't make those hormones, or if the bloodstream is being flooded with estrogens from soy formula, what's going to happen at puberty? Might not go as it's supposed to go.
Starting point is 02:10:22 And I don't think any parent wants that for their child. People use this on the internet It's like a slang term or an insult They say that we have a generation of men who are soy boys Have you seen that soy fed babies tend to have when they get to be adults? They have a hard time completing projects completing tasks They're not as focused as a man or woman should be and
Starting point is 02:10:46 That's a terrible. What does a baby get from Did she say puberty? Yeah. Yeah. I heard that too. Puberty. Crazy. Oh, that explains what happened to me.
Starting point is 02:11:01 I don't think I was breastfed. I recommend, I'm just not gonna say that never mind. I was gonna say something Catch myself Here we go, oh shit not available, okay fine I Have one note here says Tom Brady. There we go. Tom Brady. He was a quarterback, right? Like the best ever or something. So this story about my parents, when I had these dreams of being a professional quarterback, you know, or even go to college to play. My parents were there to say,
Starting point is 02:11:42 or even go to college to play. My parents were there to say, go for it. Like there was no, hey, maybe you should think about, let's have plan B or I don't know, that's really hard. Or I don't know, there's a lot of people that wanna do those things and you should really try something that's maybe less risky. I was all in on that.
Starting point is 02:12:02 Maybe that was a little bit naive, but there was no plan B for me. And I had parents that on on that. Maybe that was a little bit naive, but there was no plan B for me. And I had parents that fully supported that. So when I wanted to go to batting cages at night, because I wasn't hitting the ball the way I wanted to in baseball, my dad was there, rolled up his sleeves, took me there. You know, we took batting cracks for 30 minutes and we drove home and we talked the whole way home about, did you see that dad? And they hit that one great. And then when I wanted to go learn to be a better quarterback, we'd go to a football camp and he tracked down there with me and he was saying, go for it, son. You got this. You know, you're going to be in it. And my mom, God bless her. You know, I was like the slowest player that ever ran at the combine like ever in history. You can look it up and my mom would be like, honey, you're so fast. You're so fast, honey. And I'm like, mom, I'm slow. It's okay. No, no, no,
Starting point is 02:12:43 you're just, you're, trust me. You're fine out there So that's just what unconditional love and support can do for you as a child that don't ever you know I always tell parents don't ever tell your kids they can't do something this Yeah, I Always tell this story about my parents when I that being, there's fucking, there's the other story too. Someone said they can't. That's what caused the kid to do it. Who knows?
Starting point is 02:13:17 Mr. Beast, the I hire woman paralyzed, Vermont, Jordan Peterson, black culture, men beating women, illegal migrants in New York, Kamala's a race baiter. It's not okay to DM somebody and say you look sexy when you're this? What's this? Oh, goob. Here we go. Here we go. Oh, how you doing? We just got a friendly PSA here. It involves this guy, Matt. We're going to talk about brands that reach out to me and ask me to work for them and maybe some do's and do nots. Actually, we're just we're just going to talk about some nuts. This here is Matt. Matt last year attempted to get me to promote his product combat kratom for free and I could get some monetary kickbacks. I know the date this is January 2723.
Starting point is 02:14:16 And then we hit me up again in October. I never saw this message replied wanted to get me on a zoom. You get the gist. So a few problems there, Matt. Did you forget sending my girlfriend this creepy ass Unsolicited DM calling her sexy June 2013 but you're begging me to work for you for free in October you didn't think I'd piece this shit together and like figure out that you're creep I don't want to work for your shitty creative company Matt company, Matt. Besides the point, I currently work with, in my opinion, the only Kratom-
Starting point is 02:14:50 So you're not allowed to DM someone? I mean, I've never done that, but you're not allowed to DM someone and say that they're sexy? Is that, is that, is that, is that? You're posting pictures of yourself, of your ass and your tits on the internet, and you're not allowed to DM someone and say they're sexy? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:15:12 I don't agree with that. Love me some goo, but I don't know what pictures, I don't know what his girlfriend was posting, but. Dom, you're allowed to do that. Shit, that's taken down. If someone's posting pictures of themselves in bathing suits on the internet, you're allowed to text them, you look sexy. You heard it from me.
Starting point is 02:15:41 Say I said so. Mike Schellenberg, violent crime rates in California are up 31% than rates in the US under Gavin Newsom. No duh. California violent crime is increasingly diverging from the national trend as of 2022 is 31% higher than the US rate. California violent crime rate increased by 5.7% from 268 crimes per 100,000 residents in 2021 to 495 in 2022. Jesus. So bad here. You guys remember that story I covered about the in and out in Oakland that closed down. It's the only in and out ever to close down and it was hugely profitable but there was so much fucking violence in the parking lot. Like just met several times every day that they closed it down. My arms look sexy. Yeah I mean that's the whole reason I
Starting point is 02:16:43 wore this shirt. That's the whole reason's the whole reason I wore this shirt. That's the whole reason why I do this during the show so that I can show off my only muscle that I have in my body, my forearms. Alright time to go watch Dexter. I hope my wife has some hamburger meat on the stove. Love you guys. Thanks for hanging out today James Kelly Thank you. I'll see you guys tomorrow morning 7 a.m. Pacific Standard Time. We got a great fun week
Starting point is 02:17:09 We get oh shit. We need a sponsor for kill Taylor this week Let me know if anyone wants to be a sponsor Bye bye

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