The Sevan Podcast - Jorge Ventura | US Border Update

Episode Date: November 15, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:54 with ANC on performance may vary based on environmental conditions and usage accessories sold separately. I broke my front camera in the border so we're getting a whole new iPhone for that now. So the the camera on your phone and your computer busted Yeah, I mean the the on my phone the selfie is uh Doesn't work the other one does I don't know if I could even I'm in a hotel man So I'm like, I don't know if I could uh, give me give me one second here. Let me let me try Okay, okay. Low stress low stress whore haven tour ladies and gentlemen You guys want to see something crazy while we wait absolutely nuts
Starting point is 00:01:37 Philip Kelly sent this to me this morning. I can't even believe this is real It's a it's a it's a doctor it's a doctor this is this is great maybe I'll read you the article first and then show you the they actually have video of this it's on Instagram good morning sorry good morning David good morning Jody good morning Marissa good morning Chris hey everyone good morning Sean this is this is absolutely nuts what I'm about to show you this is a doctor and our well I'm not gonna show you yet but I'm gonna read it to you Blightville Arkansas Northeast Arkansas doctor license has been suspended after
Starting point is 00:02:24 allegations he performed a sex act with a staff member as other staff watched. That's a doctor having sex with a sex act with staff while other staff watched? I'm going to show you guys the video to this. Philip sent me the video. I watched it this morning. I can't even believe it's real. The board found oh Look, there's Jorge. We'll come back to the
Starting point is 00:02:51 We'll come back to the doctor having sex with the stuff damn dude. You look good. You look lean and mean. Oh man, I got I got I got um, I got a bad stomach virus about three weeks ago, so my so my weight dropped, but I've been hard at the gym, man, like crazy now. I just improved my diet, so everything has been looking better, feeling a whole lot better. Hey, what do you do when you're working and you want to puke and shit when both openings want to go? Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:03:26 You still push through and work or what do you do? That must be crazy with your job because your job is on the go. Yeah, the thing is I had a stomach problem so they like to clean me out. I actually had to go to the hospital because I was going on day six without any food. So it got really bad. But on Sunday I went to Mexico and I actually woke up with like the flu I think, but I had already pitched a story.
Starting point is 00:03:49 We already had to do it. So I had a push through and yeah, it was actually a really good story. So I'm glad, but I'm feeling better, man. Got some electrolytes in the system, ready to go. Hey, is that the most in all the years, how long have you been doing journalism now? Technically, this is year four.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Is that the most sick you've ever been? Oh, yeah, yeah, man. I never get sick, bro. I mean, I'm always taking care of myself. I eat healthy. I never get colds or anything. What I thought was a food poisoning, because usually I get a, if I have food poisoning, it's like a day or two. I ended up dragging off for two weeks. I went like five days with no food, and then my weight was just dropping, man. And then I mean, and everyone probably knows this,
Starting point is 00:04:36 who's like hitting the gym consistently. Like if you don't even go for like three days, you feel weak, you feel like you're at a rhythm. So I went almost like, yeah, like a little bit over two weeks, man, without the gym. So I was like feel like you're at a rhythm. So I went almost like yeah like two like a little bit over two weeks man without the gyms I was like I'm really at a rhythm but um I was able to go one time when I was at the border I went I went last night um even probably after our show today I'll probably I'll probably hit it hit it again. Where are you now? I just got back to San Antonio. We were an eagle pass for about five days just because
Starting point is 00:05:08 all the Texas authorities are getting ready for kind of like a potential migrant surge ahead of Trump's inauguration. Hey, so is that true? The things I'm seeing, I'm seeing just all the weird shit. People are hoarding abortion pills. They think they're be outlawed transgender surgeries are being accelerated and then of course people rushing up to the border all the things that people think that Trump's presidency is gonna impact is that true are people were trying to rush across the border so right right now the crossings are still kind of the same but there's like there is like a buildup. So for instance, at least where we were reporting in EGLEPASS, they are seeing that spike in
Starting point is 00:05:50 migrant encounters. So they're seeing that rush of migrants trying to get to Pérez Negros, Mexico. So that's the Mexican border town across EGLEPASS, even crossing illegally. So on Sunday, I went to Mexico. I mean, I went to that area of Mexico, Pé negative. And what I found was a trend of basically there's thousands of migrants right now in central Mexico, basically like Monterey and Mexico City. And the reason they're there is because they are trying to enter the U.S. legally by getting an appointment on an application. Not sure your audience is familiar with it, but it's called CBP one, which was under the Biden administration where basically migrants could just try to apply for this appointment. And if they get that appointment, they'll be able to enter
Starting point is 00:06:30 legally through a port of entry. But there's only about 1,300 to 1,500 per day, and there's like hundreds of thousands of migrants trying to apply for this appointment at one time. So essentially, I was interviewing migrants who were telling me that they've been in Mexico City for like 10 months And basically every day they just try to get an appointment They haven't had any luck So I guess I've been trying for 10 months and now they feel like that time is running out with with Trump coming into office In January, so they're all now traveling from Mexico City and trying to get to border towns to cross illegally But a lot of them are arriving in and in a pay this negative and then just crossing illegally.
Starting point is 00:07:06 So we got to witness some of that, and like kind of go in the water with the migrants in the Rio Grande. Hey, I saw, I think I saw one of your stories yesterday. I'm pretty 99% sure it was your story. And it was one of the more gentle stories I've seen. I feel like usually the media portrays it as like a frenzy coming across the border and just chaos.
Starting point is 00:07:35 And I want to say that this last story I saw of you, you were interviewing some women and some men and it had a little bit of a more sympathetic tone. Like do you feel me on that at all, what I'm saying? For me, I was just trying to do storytelling on what's going on with both sides. And then personally, the thing with a lot of immigration reporting is I like to do it in a way that you hold the powerful
Starting point is 00:08:07 accountable but at the same time you're also telling stories of just like on the ground and this is just like real life right like these are real people like these are real people this just isn't the news yeah I always like that style because I always like to shoot myself more like, like if someone was filming a documentary. I'm also telling stories in a way where, for instance, I'm trying to tell a story in a way where like, if someone doesn't think that what's going on
Starting point is 00:08:42 isn't a problem, they kind of could come across the site and say, hey, you know what? I supported this, so then maybe now I don't. Because one thing that kind of has gotten underreported in this immigration story under Biden, this chapter is going to come to a close pretty soon, is that, and I think a lot of people forget, is a record number of migrants did die under the Biden administration. So whether you're Republican or Democrat, at the end of the day, there's real human beings dying at the border. And that area of Eagle Pass, I've had this connection with this area because this is an area that I started reporting in around 2021.
Starting point is 00:09:24 And early on, the amount of migrant deaths that were happening in the Rio Grande were just, I mean, it's just sad. I mean, it's just on a human level, especially the kids. The amount of kids that have died in the waters, babies, is heartbreaking. I remember one of the stories we did, and I remember I mentioned it on your show is,
Starting point is 00:09:41 I spoke to the local sheriff there of Madera County. He tells me, he's like, Jorge, right now, we're averaging a drowning a day. He says, hey, you know, at the end of the day, us sheriffs, we never trained to be pulling dead bodies the way we are, also just viewing them out of dead bodies and dead kids. And that sheriff took me to the local cemetery there.
Starting point is 00:10:03 And there was a bunch of makeshift crosses with uh with like with like the uh pvc piping and you see John Doe John Doe uh you know Jane Doe Jane Doe and then there's just a bunch of rows baby John Doe baby Jane Doe and I was and it was just you know once again it just brings it again to the human level I think sometimes when when you watch media on both sides, you kind of get caught up in the politics, of course. And obviously we just had the election, so I totally get that.
Starting point is 00:10:29 But I think a lot of times you do forget, people are dying. Women are being sexually assaulted at the border by these Mexican cartels, kidnapping, extortions. So that's that darker side that you have to tell that story because it does connect to this immigration story and why this amount of legal immigration hurts both sides. I mean, no one is really winning here. I mean, on the American side, the Americans are losing taxpayer money, you know, trained
Starting point is 00:10:58 in a lot of gang members are not coming into the country and committing crimes, even committing murders that taxpayers are losing. Like in these border towns, they're really getting impacted. For instance, like when I'm in Eagle Pass, when they had those times where like the crossings were so high, they had to shut off the port of entry, which I mean, that hurts the economy on both the Mexican border towns and the American border towns. So the list goes on, but the deaths sometimes go under report in this story and obviously liberal media kind of wants to avoid that conversation. After watching, I watched an interview of Thomas Homan from 2019 and then I watched
Starting point is 00:11:36 an interview of him more recently. He's the new border czar. are. Basically, my takeaway, really big picture, you know, the 100,000 foot view is bad shits always gonna happen at the border, but if you don't have rule at the border and you think out of kindness you're gonna just open the border and let people cross out of kindness, what you get is more bad shit everywhere. You get more deaths, more lost children, more drugs coming across. And so it reminds me of kind of the defund the police movement, you think you're going to do something nice. And then really, it just backfires. And it just exacerbated the problem. Actually,
Starting point is 00:12:18 more kids got separated from their parents. When the border was open, more drugs came across, there was more sex trafficking, there were more drownings. It actually didn't help anything. Did you say that accurate, big picture? Yeah, and the connection too with the police to the open border is, it only impacts, on the American side, when we spoke about the American communities, it impacts
Starting point is 00:12:46 the working class communities the most. So like defund the police, when you're taking the police out, it's the single mother in Los Angeles who could get robbed and that doesn't have the police there to respond to that. It's not going to be the person in the gate of gates in Beverly Hills or Malibu or Calabasas. Same thing with the border issue is, these migrants are headed to cities like Denver, New York City, Chicago,
Starting point is 00:13:13 but they're going to work in communities. They're not going obviously to the rich areas and those wealthy Americans are not seeing the issue the way the working class folks are. So that's why that's also the connection that I also see as well, that people forget. And in Texas, and this is how I wanted to bring up this issue, is all those communities
Starting point is 00:13:35 are either working class or actually below poverty line, and they're all overwhelmingly Latino communities. So for instance, Eagle Pass, we were is 95% Latino. That's also an area, I mean, all these border towns, they also vote overwhelmingly Democrat. And a big story that came out of this election is that all these counties basically flipped to Trump. Star County on the border, that's 97% Latino.
Starting point is 00:14:00 That went to Trump. I was just in Maverick County. Back in 2020, Maverick County voted Joe Biden by nearly 10 percentage points. This time it did a 19 point swing all the way to Trump. So those working class communities on the border even below on the poverty line, they kept seeing this crisis for four years. and then when they turned on the news, you have these TV anchors telling them and Democrat strategists saying, oh, that's not real, it's not happening, you know, it's all under control. And those voters obviously went to the ballot box and wanted to
Starting point is 00:14:37 send a message. So that's why this immigration story, I think we're going to talk about it 20 years down the line because it just plays such a role in this not only election but all these Latino communities that were overwhelming Democrat that the Democrats also didn't even really have to invest in because they were kind of just in the bag. I mean it's insane. I mean like even Maverick County I mean it's such a rare political story to have a county flip 19 points to the other party. I mean, that's like completely unheard of. So the Democrats' theory was this is going to backfire on the Republican.
Starting point is 00:15:16 They're villainizing border crossers. They're villainizing all of these immigrants, legal or illegal, that come across the border. And what's going to happen is the cohort of Latinos that are already in the country are going to overwhelmingly vote Democrat, and we're going to win. But it didn't play out that way. The group that came before them was like, hey, this is even we know this is too many. You're fucking up any possibility of the dream by letting too many of us in. Is that how it played out? Is that the? this is too many, you're fucking up any possibility of the dream by letting too many of us in.
Starting point is 00:15:45 Is that how it played out? Is that the? You know, I wouldn't even say that it backfired. I just really think they completely ignored it and tried to tell the voters it wasn't happening. Cause now- So they lost their trust. You think it was a trust thing? You think it's like, hey, even though my family
Starting point is 00:16:04 came across the border, you're denying that it's happening and I don't trust you and I was a trust thing? You think it's like, hey, even though my family came across the border, you're denying that it's happening and I don't trust you and I'm voting against you like that? It's that and like I said, people, you know, living on the board, they got to see it in different, you know, in different aspects. Like I said, Eagle Pass was interesting because they also had, they also had it, I remember December 2023. December 2023, it was the record of the most illegal crossings ever in the southern border, but Eagle Pass particularly was averaging 2,000 migrants a day. And I was on the ground for those 30 days. And I don't know if you remember, man, just the scenes of thousands of people
Starting point is 00:16:45 under that port of entry. And you see all the migrants with those space blankets. I mean, the optics were horrible. And those images stuck with voters. And like I said, they saw the issue, but then you had a political party who technically is in power, right? The Biden administration. And they either, I mean, they ignored it, obviously, but they
Starting point is 00:17:09 also were almost telling their voters that it wasn't happening. And now I'm watching a bunch of like, like, you know, left leaning podcasts because I like trying to analyze the election. And now they're admitting that that is true. But also, you know, you could even talk about, you know, I'm not an economy reporter, but it was almost the same thing with the economy, right? Where voters told you, hey, I'm impacted by inflation. I know you're telling me the economy is good, but we are not seeing that. Our wages haven't grown. You're telling us crime is down.
Starting point is 00:17:40 Not happening. I mean, it's just, you know, you're obviously going to pay for it. The other not happening. I mean, it's just that, you know, you're obviously going to pay for it. The other key thing, I think, to the story that is now, I think it's going to be talked about more was Texas Governor Greg Abbott's decision to bus migrants to Democrat cities. That I remember when that was happening, a lot of folks on the right, like, we're not happy about that. They're like, why are we bringing more migrants into the interior? What Greg Abbott did is he not only forced the cities to address the issue, obviously we know that now, right?
Starting point is 00:18:17 But he then forced the local media in those cities to then have to put it on the news. And then now those voters in those big cities had to deal with those issues. I believe New York City, taxpayer wise, was spending, I think they might still be spending, but I remember last year, the Mayor Adams came out and said, "'We are spending $8 million a day
Starting point is 00:18:39 "'in just caring for migrants.'" So that's why I also, I think now that we got the data from the election where you saw like a bunch of big cities, like voters in big cities, like in liberal cities, even shift to the right, it's because of this issue. I remember, in Chicago, for instance, there was those images that were like, there's migrants basically out in the tents
Starting point is 00:18:56 and they're freezing. I mean, all those optics just didn't help. And once again, the voters are seeing it, everyone is clearly seeing it. And you had a party that just wouldn't address it. And once again, I think are seeing it, everyone is clearly seeing it. And you know, you had a party that just wouldn't address it. And once again, I think that that played a huge role in why Trump won in November. Eagle Pass has a population of 28,000. And what you're saying is, is in one month, they let in 60,000 people. So everyone in that town went from every time they left the house,
Starting point is 00:19:23 their entire town was changed. Yes, some of the dynamics for people who are not in these border towns. A lot of these border towns, they depend. There's a lot of Mexicans that live in pay disunited or even Americans that live in these Mexican border towns that cross every day to work in American border towns. It's a completely normal thing. So in Eagle Pass, for instance, there's a lot of restaurants and other industries there that they have a lot of workforce is in Mexico that crosses over every day.
Starting point is 00:19:58 The issue when you have thousands of migrants under the port of entry and they have to close the port of entry, now that workforce can't get over. Also, customers, there's a lot of Mexicans that travel every day to American border towns. This happened from T.J. to San Diego, obviously, in Fray this negative to Eagle Pass where they come and shop every day. So those business owners, they depend on that business to come through. So they were impacted. Also local resources, right? So when you have thousands of migrants who are in the port of entry, you can only imagine the amount of medical calls that are coming in, kids that need assistance, mothers, all
Starting point is 00:20:36 types of issues, illnesses. I remember when I was speaking with the sheriff, he was like, Jorge, we only have five ambulances for the entire county. So now we're spending our local resources and that local resources is getting tied up in dealing with an issue that should be handled by the federal government. I believe I remember one of the times I was down there, I asked the local fire department, how much money have you guys already spent rescuing migrants and dealing with these rescue calls?
Starting point is 00:21:04 They're like, we're basically spending close to like half a million a year. And he's like, and that money's a loss. We're not getting reimbursed for this. So those local people, once again, continue to see the issue. These are folks that voted Democrat. And also, because the Democrats thought they had those voters in the bag, they didn't invest in those communities.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Now, the Republican Party saw another thing. And I think the 2022 midterm, there was Monica Dilla Cruz that was down here, a congresswoman who's a Republican. Meyer Floors had a lot of momentum. Trump campaign on the border, Ron DeSantis, I remember when Ron DeSantis was running, he came down to the border.
Starting point is 00:21:52 Ron DeSantis not only came down to the border campaign, but he also deployed Florida state troopers to help Texas state troopers. So even as a voter, you have a party that's telling you that's not a problem, but when you walk outside And you then you see well wait. Why does the the Republican governor of Florida? Why is he deploying more resources or why they you know? Why are they doing more? That's the way they view it all that stuff played a played a major role in this in this immigration story Jody Lynn, can you please get Jorge's Venmo so we can donate money?
Starting point is 00:22:26 Do you have a Venmo, Jorge? No, no, no. I'm all good, man. Yeah, yeah. No worries for donations, guys. No worries about that. Do you have any theory on why they left the border open? Why Kamala never went down there?
Starting point is 00:22:42 Why Joe Biden didn't just sign an executive order to shut the border down? Do you have any big picture? I know the general theory is let these people in and they'll vote blue. Do you have any thoughts on why doesn't want to elinate their progressive base. Their voters are very, they don't, like I said, they didn't want to upset that progressive voter base. And then so I feel like they had, I obviously don't know this, but.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Just yeah. And what's the theory? Because it doesn't make any sense. It's the same thing with like accepting minor attracted persons. You know what I mean? Or letting boys into girls restrooms, like leaving the border open. Why did they do this? Do they actually do the politicians actually intellectually think that these are good ideas?
Starting point is 00:23:47 I mean, you would have to ask them that. I think I brought this up. There's that famous Bernie Sanders clip where a progressive journalist asked Bernie Sanders, he's like, why not open up America's borders to the world's poorest and they could come here and obviously get the American dream? And then Bernie Sanders says that's a Koch Brothers conspiracy. He's like, because if you allow all that workforce in, that's going to drive down American wages and that's what big corporations want. So that was Bernie Sanders answer. And also that was around 2015. I mean, when the Obama administration was, I would say, moderate on the border, I mean,
Starting point is 00:24:34 moderate probably strong on the border. I remember Univision, the Spanish news channel, they nicknamed Obama the Deporter-in-Chief because of the amount of deportations. Then obviously Trump comes in 2016 and I don't know for the damns if they felt because Trump came in with that such heavy rhetoric on immigration that I don't think we've ever really heard before, right? Like the build the wall and all that stuff that they feel like they had to swing the whole other way for their voters. So they became, you know, like I said, they didn't want to eliminate that progressive voter base.
Starting point is 00:25:09 So they came in and then obviously they, they, with the executive orders basically took away a lot of, you know, Trump's hardline immigration policies, but the number one part being that they were made in Mexico was probably a huge one. And basically this kind of started this whole kind of catch and release policy that was different. And I remember in March 2021 was my first time at the southern border in McAllen, Texas. And I remember I had come across a group of 300 migrants. And I remember when I came across the group, obviously I'm shocked, big group. And I remember when I ran into the migrants, they would tell me, where is Border Patrol?
Starting point is 00:25:44 Where is Border Patrol? And I remember just having this like confused look of like wait wait wait like why would you be looking for border patrol was kind of used to like you know if you would you would cross in a trump you would probably not want to see a border patrol you so I was I didn't get it and obviously after reporting for two weeks I was like wait a minute the reason they want to go to border patrols because they know they'll be processed even later released and then that obviously we saw that trend carry out everyone you know knows that now. I just think it started off with not wanting to eliminate a voter base even I mean I have no idea why they would not solve it I think even moderate democrats wanted it
Starting point is 00:26:21 wanted it solved but once again again, it just exploded. Even the images kept just coming out, coming out. And I mean, now we're here. This is from your Instagram and it shows, I think these are Texas, are these Texas Rangers? Texas National Guard. Texas National Guard. Texas National Guard. And there's a guy on the roof of this truck
Starting point is 00:26:48 pointing a pepper gun, I think, at these guys. Those are also images I'm not used to seeing. Is the border patrol and people working the border feeling more empowered now? So I haven't got to speak with agents, but there have already been reports that their morale is higher. And let me explain those images for you, man. So that what you're seeing there, that's Texas trying to put up their, you know, they're
Starting point is 00:27:15 trying to mortify and trying to do their best to deter and block migrants from entering illegally. And what you're seeing there is you have, you know, Texas National Guard also using that paper ball gun to obviously deter the migrants. So they're not gonna like shoot at the migrants, they'll shoot, you know, pretty close to them in the waters. But that's just to deter and block migrants.
Starting point is 00:27:38 So Texas is trying to take that initiative of, hey, we wanna stop any type of surge. And I mean, that operation has been going on for three years now. It's called Operation Lone Star. And right there, you see them really doubling down. And what's also interesting there is in Texas authorities, what I'll tell you is the migrants know when Texas authorities are there that they're going to be blocked and deterred from entering.
Starting point is 00:28:02 So they want to look for border patrol agents because technically under federal law, once a migrant reaches American soil, which technically they're there on American soil, they have to be apprehended by border patrol agents. The difference is Texas that doesn't apply for Texas authorities. So they're going to continue to block and try to do their best they can. But just just want to explain for the audience what you're seeing there is operational loan start and that's by Texas governor Greg Gavin Yeah, I I I I was hoping what I was seeing is is that they're feeling more empowered
Starting point is 00:28:30 They're feeling like that. They have the support of the government and that they can show more force uh To deter people from coming in. I just hadn't remembered ever seeing uh Video of that of guys actually pointing weapons or doing anything to deter them. You're right. The images we've seen the last two years are mostly showing the Border Patrol escorting people across.
Starting point is 00:28:54 It seems new to me to see them actually deterring people from breaking into the country illegally. Yeah. Once again, that's the state of Texas. That's not the federal government. That's not border patrol. Okay. That's the state of Texas. That is not the federal government. That's not border control. That's the state of Texas. And Texas has deployed not only Texas National Guard to do that, but they also have Texas state troopers.
Starting point is 00:29:13 So you have the troopers also patrolling. Their job is to block and deter. They are not the, you know, they're not apprehending migrants or any of that. They are doing, obviously, they'll apprehend them if they cross in, but they are, they are going to do their best that they can to block that's where they're also mortifying areas. They're trying to build as much of that razor wire. Yeah. Is this razor wire here down by the water that I'm looking at too? They don't
Starting point is 00:29:38 even want you to get in the shore. That's razor wire on the ground, right? I mean, they got that thing so heavily mortified. They got that fencing. Like I right? I mean, they got that thing so heavily mortified. They got that fencing. And like I said, they have that area very secure there. It's called Shelby Park. So they're, like I said, they're trying to lock it down in that area of Shelby Park. The reason why they wanted to mortify that area, that's the area where you have those viral images of the thousands of migrants under this port.
Starting point is 00:30:05 I mean it looks like it's almost like a mini city. So after that happened in December in 2023 when we went into the New Year, that's what Governor Greg Evans said, okay we're gonna shut down that park because we want to avoid that massive station area. We do not want that again. The big thing here man is, and this is what I heard from a Texas authority, is there's a dual mission when it comes to immigration where you have border patrol agents that are not necessarily blocking or deterring migrants where migrants know to turn themselves into that border patrol agent to be released into the U.S. Texas is playing the role of blocking, deterring. Like we do, like they're
Starting point is 00:30:48 in a way, because I think for a lot of Americans, they think Border Patrol agents on the ground right now and they're blocking migrants and they're stopping it. They're technically not. It's Texas authorities that are doing that. Like I said, Border Patrol agents are doing more of the, I mean, they are just doing the catch and release. So that was a big thing when I was having a conversation with a Texas authority saying look right now we have dueling missions Right when federal and the state should be basically working together to protect the border So that's kind of a an interesting take away from that conversation Why are these um women covering their face? Is it smell horrible down there? Like why are they covering their faces? I mean, I would just imagine they probably didn't want to want to be on camera
Starting point is 00:31:28 Okay Yeah Okay, so so it has nothing to do with the stench or no. No, no, okay Um, what do you think about the new guy? Um, uh homin? I guess he's the old guy coming back Uh, you know homin is gonna uh, I mean, he's obviously going to come in and I think they're going to just bring down the hammer. Um, and he's, he, he's obviously going to follow Trump's vision on border security
Starting point is 00:31:55 or at least the goals in the initiative. He, I mean, he, he, like I said, he's going to come down with the absolute hammer. I think it's pretty clear the guy like is literally just all business when it comes to the border I believe he was the ice director or He worked at some type of high-ranking position as well. I think you're right. I think you're right Yeah, yeah, so I remember like I said under like I said under Obama Even Univision that nickname Obama the deporter in chief. So I think he's going to come in, hardline policy according to Holman when it comes to
Starting point is 00:32:30 this mass deportation operation. They want to target criminals, anyone who could be a high risk first. That's going to be their priority. They're going to work it down. So I think they're going to come in, like I said, all guns blazing on the border. He's very aggressive. He's a guy who's been, I've been watching him on TV too for years and they're just going to bring down the hammer.
Starting point is 00:32:49 I mean, there's no way to say it. The issue that I see is, will they be able to deport millions of people? We'll see. It's going to cost, I mean, a lot of money, but it's just going to be operationally a big task Holman says they're gonna be able to do it They're gonna bring in you know more agents everything that I'm gonna be interested to see that the other thing for for me as a reporter Is what do you do with the Venezuelans because we've had this historic wave of it as well as they came in illegally, but
Starting point is 00:33:22 Venezuela doesn't have obviously the best relationships with the US. Venezuela does not accept deportation flights. I'm not sure if people know that. They don't take deportation flights. So I don't know how you're going to deport Venezuelans. You can't just send them back to Mexico because then you will need Mexico to then agree to take that Venezuelan in. I don't know if Trump's going to pressure Mexico with some type of tariff or deal. We will have to wait and see. Obviously, I think that they're not going to want to talk about those operations right
Starting point is 00:33:53 now. In November, they're going to wait until January, obviously, to the inauguration and then when Trump's in. I don't know how you deport the Venezuelans right now, because if the country doesn't want to take them in, if they don't accept deportation flights, that I think is going to be a massive challenge from my perspective. In 2015, US Immigration Custom Enforcement Executive
Starting point is 00:34:14 Associate Director, ICE Enforcement and Removal Operations Thomas Homan received from Obama the 2015 Presidential Rank Award for Distinguished Service. So Obama loved, I guess that's how Obama loved him Yeah, I mean he like I said he was you know He worked under the Obama. He was technically like I said Obama's the Porter and chief so Now I think they're gonna the mission is a lot different now, obviously But obviously if you know that another kind of there's that thing
Starting point is 00:34:44 I don't know if you seen that kind of like viral clip that's going on with like AOC in him. Where yes, yes. Yeah, yeah, we're at zero towns for for family separation. So that's now making the rounds on kind of the liberal corporate press. But I think like I said, he's gonna come in, he's gonna bring the hammer down. But like I said, for me, I just don't know how you're gonna remove Venezuelans.
Starting point is 00:35:14 I don't even know if you could even get Venezuela to even agree on something like that. It probably doesn't help Venezuela-US relations by also selecting Marco Rubio as Secretary of State. Marco Rubio obviously has a very hawkish view on Venezuela, so I have no idea how they do that. And the people from the Congo and the Chinese and all the other places that they're coming from, right?
Starting point is 00:35:40 Yeah, yeah, exactly. Exactly. We still have the... I mean, we have migrants from all over the world, but the, you know, but obviously the nationality that came in in the millions and the millions was Venezuelans. And then even when I was in right now, just recently in Pepe's Vegas, Mexico, the majority of migrants that I met were Venezuelan and there's still hundreds of thousands in Mexico and you know, who are, who are basically trying to get on the cpp1 app because they know that
Starting point is 00:36:05 Trump is going to also end that application when he probably comes in in January. So you have a huge venous swelling problem. I just don't know like I said I don't know how you remove how they're going to remove them. I'm going to be curious to see that. But you think Homan's up for the job. You think Trump picked the right guy? I mean, as a reporter, I can't give an opinion, but obviously Trump picked someone who's going to follow the initiative that Trump wants and it's going to be that hardline policy.
Starting point is 00:36:39 And Homan, I think from his experience has showed that on this, it's serious business. And I think Holman, you also got to see, cause I follow the guy closely too when he wasn't obviously in official capacity under Biden, but he's gone, he has been extremely passionate about this, he's, I mean, he continued to speak out against the Biden administration.
Starting point is 00:37:03 I reached out to some border patrol agents that I've spoken to in the past, all big fans of Holman. So they're going to carry out that initiative. So whatever Trump wants, that hardline policy, they're going to play absolutely no games. I want to talk about the children. All I keep hearing over and over is there's an unprecedented amount of unaccompanied minors coming over the border. And then they kind of make this connection to sex trafficking. Now in my day-to-day life, right, I can go to Home Depot and I can see all sorts of people who
Starting point is 00:37:37 appear to be migrants looking for work, right? But in my day-to-day life, I never see anything that looks like children, right? Ever, ever, ever. All I get is the news. And then the other piece that I thought was interesting was General John Kelly came out against Trump and said that Trump, he said he heard Trump say, hey, I wish that my generals were more like Hitler's generals. So I started googling around about John Kelly, and I found out the general John Kelly sits on the board of the largest migrant center in the world, two of them,
Starting point is 00:38:11 that guess what they hold? Unaccompanied minors. And so he obviously doesn't want Trump taking power because that's gonna influence his ability. And they had a $360 million contract with the US government to hold unaccompanied minors What is really going on there? Is there anything like is it? I'm gonna say something so crass here But is it literally like there's some sort of network where I can buy 10 kids
Starting point is 00:38:36 And like bring them to my diddy mansion and do crazy shit with them like And I don't know if you saw the story that also broke The disgusting story that broke yesterday. I'm trying to remember who the guy was, but there was a guy in the US who was recently caught for watching on in the Philippines, there was a website where you could go and pay money to watch people have sex with miners. And it was it's actually like a business. Is there that kind of dark crazy shit going on because you know the mainstream media They don't get into the nitty-gritty you just have to buy what they're saying and accept it On the on the board there's there is that dark underworld
Starting point is 00:39:21 With children and I wanted to share a quick story with the two story. Two years ago I was in McAllen. I actually have two but two years ago I was in McAllen and we were there because McAllen which is in the Rio Grande Valley in Texas never sees Chinese migrants so they had this huge explosion in Chinese migrants so we went went for that story. And while we were down there, we encountered this woman who was crying, a migrant woman, and she ran over to us. And she had this four-year-old boy, and she basically told us, this is not my son. I found him abandoned, and I didn't know what to do so I brought him with me. I was with Texas authorities at the time so when they approached the little boy, he was
Starting point is 00:40:14 wearing this makeshift necklace and it had an address, I believe it was like to Georgia. And basically the Texas authorities was like, that's their, you know, like that's, that's like their their sponsor, whatever. And I was just completely flabbergasted because it was like such a such a sad scene to see like this kid abandoned. He had like, like I said, he had like a makeshift address. His parents weren't with them. The migrant woman had no idea. I don't know. I don't know if it was smoking and abandoned him. And there's millions of stories like that. I was also in Yuma, Arizona. What happened to him? What happened to the boy? Well, basically what we did is we personally got that. The thing is that boy then goes
Starting point is 00:41:01 to what they call the Department of Health and Human Services. The Department of Health and Human Services then is going to try to contact that boy's sponsor. What we did is we took a picture of the address because they also had a phone number and we called the number a few times and the guy was think was trying to act, like I said, you don't even know. He was trying to say he was the boy's uncle, but then why would they send him by himself? So it was just extremely odd. I had another situation when we were in Yuma, Arizona and this little boy was discovered by a group of migrants.
Starting point is 00:41:45 They said that he was naked when they found him and that he was completely passed out and they had to give him clothes. They obviously brought him when they crossed the border. But the boy was completely passed out when we were with him. He was not conscious. And then he didn't have a phone number, but he had a sponsor address written on his arm. And then they come to find out, I think it was like a year later, I believe it was the New York Times, they put out a report that like the government couldn't find like 300 kids or like they
Starting point is 00:42:14 couldn't get in contact with those sponsors. Then there was other stories where like one sponsor, I think they found that one sponsor would have like five unaccompanied minors to that address. So there was just a bunch of those stories and that's also like I said, a dark underworld of kids who are either sent by their parents by themselves and also where you have family members here in the US that like somehow get these kids to come by themselves. It's just, it's a dark underworld that, I mean, you know, you would have to go down a huge rabbit hole. But I think like right now, we just did a report here in Eagle Pass because they're also seeing a surge of unaccompanied minors, I believe.
Starting point is 00:43:01 I think it was on Friday, a group of 114 migrants came and then they had 13 unaccompanied minors, I believe, I think it was on Friday, a group of 114 migrants came and then they had 13 unaccompanied children with them. And then those kids will get transferred to health and human services and they'll be connected to a sponsor, you know, who knows if they're a family member or not. What is a sponsor? Is that just like, just some random person
Starting point is 00:43:20 in the United States who's like, yeah, I'll take a kid? I think what it is is those kids have a contact with like written on them like basically they're either carrying notes it's either written on them so then basically Department of Health and Human Services tries to get in contact with that sponsor the issue is because so many kids they don't have enough resources to actually do proper vetting to the adults that these kids are being released to. So right now, the Department of Health and Human Services has, I believe, over 6,000
Starting point is 00:43:55 unaccompanied minors in custody. They try to get the average stay to about 34 days. You know, I'm not sure if that always happens, but there's been a lot of reporting, this is not coming from me that's new, but there's been already a lot of reporting that they just don't even have the resources to then also do the proper vetting of who these adults are.
Starting point is 00:44:16 And I believe also the New York Times, which did a great piece, is they found out also a bunch of these kids were being used in what they call labor trafficking, so forced into factories and different areas of work that's just very bizarre, like them taking advantage of these migrant children. From my own reporting, this is from when I was with the Daily Caller, there was a few issues where they had unaccompanied migrant children on the illegal marijuana forms in
Starting point is 00:44:44 California. So that was from our reporting. So there is that crisis with unaccompanied minors. Like I said, this is not even like a conspiracy or anything. I mean, like I said, the Axios and New York Times covered it where the government couldn't get in contact with over like 300,000 kids. And you can only imagine with more unaccompanied minors,
Starting point is 00:45:06 the resources continue to thin up. So a lot of these children, I mean, who knows the type of homes are being put in? Like I said, these adults are not being vetted. I believe there was that one story on Telemundo, if I'm not wrong, where this unaccompanied minor was raped by a guy and it was the mother who took that daughter to there.
Starting point is 00:45:27 It was just like a whole, there's like a lot of stories like that. Yeah, my brain goes to some really dark places when I hear that, and all the stories on the media are so vague, but when I think of 300,000 children missing, I'm like, shouldn't I see some of these children? What's going on?
Starting point is 00:45:43 Where the fuck are they? That's a lot of kids. That's a lot of kids. That's a lot of kids. I, like I said, I believe it should be covered more and the stories that I hear, like I remember I interviewed one mom who told me about her teenage daughter being sexually assaulted by cartel members while they were going through Mexico.
Starting point is 00:45:59 So then you have the issue of all these kids who, the other story is all the kids who don't even make it across the border that, you know, were probably killed in Mexico, either maybe the cartel kidnapped those kids and then maybe are going to force them into their own sex trafficking, labor trafficking. So then you have that other issue too. It's just a dark underworld, the border, especially with the children. And like I said, I covered it from a deaf perspective of kids drowning, but then you also have, like I said, these children that are traveling
Starting point is 00:46:31 without parents, unfortunately, they're gonna, I mean, they are, they're gonna get lost in the system. And these are people who, a lot of them are beat down, very insecure, afraid, super easily intimidated, right? And coerced like crazy easy intimidated and coerced. Yeah, that's right. And then you got those but deal is like for these unaccompanied children is like they
Starting point is 00:46:58 don't know the language is obviously in a foreign country. They're now under federal custody and like they're trying to connect them to a sponsor. There's no there's no there's no like representative for that child. I mean who's following up who's going to those homes and seeing is this even a safe home? Is it even sanitary? Is the kid going to even eat? We literally don't have an idea. I'm not saying every single scenario I'm sure there's those scenarios where you know it's
Starting point is 00:47:23 really their family members and then you know they're connected and that's great. But when the government can't can't follow up on 300,000, and that was, I believe that that report was like two years ago. So that number could possibly be even higher now. Christine Young, disgusting humans, the government can't even take care of our own children in the system. That's a really good point. Hey, and Christine Noem, head of Homeland Security. That's a strong human being right there,
Starting point is 00:47:59 strong woman with a lot of conviction, strong values. Is she, you think she's up for the job? You know, we'll have to wait and see. Um, Christie, Christie, no, uh, also deployed her, uh, state troopers from her, from her state to the, to the border. What was her state? She's South, she's South Dakota, South Dakota. And then she, she, she's been here at the border here at the border because I've been here when she was here.
Starting point is 00:48:28 She's also been, I believe, also in the Arizona border as well. So she's seen it. You know, with that, you just have to wait and see. Can she handle that big of an operation, this big of a responsibility? We'll have to wait we have to wait I think what at the end of day Trump has picked people who are gonna follow his agenda so it's whatever he wants to carry out these picks are gonna do that I think that that's he's picking loyal people that's for sure right I mean the fact that he picked Gates as
Starting point is 00:49:00 attorney general shows he's picking very loyal people Gates really put his neck out a few times. I would say Gates isn't even a Republican. Oh man, right now Washington is like on freak out mode with that pick. I mean, they should be on freak out mode. There's going to be a lot of unemployed people. They should be really, really freaked out. I believe they should be really freaked out.
Starting point is 00:49:20 I think the unemployment rate is going to skyrocket in this country. I think people are, I think people are, I mean, you saw he is going to skyrocket in this country. I think people are I think people are I Mean you saw he's gonna shut down the whole entire United States Department of Education Thank God in my opinion. That's like Long overdue. I don't think that there's a single statistic that validates the existence of the US state education department Because a lot of a lot of You, because obviously when this news broke out yesterday, you know, a lot of politicians are not going on TV and be like, you know,
Starting point is 00:49:52 we're not even sure Gates could actually get confirmed. From my perspective, watching this whole political breakdown, I think he is going to get confirmed because I think if any Republican goes against it, I think Trump and MAGA are just gonna come after you and set a primary challenger and then get you out. Right, wow. I think Trump now is more, yeah, I mean, personally, I also just, like just watching politics breakdown is,
Starting point is 00:50:20 I also think Trump is now more kingmaker of the Republican Party than ever. And I just think there's no, I mean, from my perspective, I know people think he's not gonna get confirmed. I think if you're a Republican, you don't confirm that they're gonna, I mean, MAGA world is gonna come after you and they're gonna throw a primary challenge and they're gonna try to get you out of office. Meaning if you go against them the next time you're up for
Starting point is 00:50:42 reelection, that will be what leveraged against you and you'll be toast. I think I think so. I think I think that's I think that's why Trump also felt comfortable going for the gates pick. Because I think he's just going to also be like, hey, I have Trump right now is as popular than ever with Republican voters. And then he has all these politicians on the Republican side walking the Maga line. And I just think anyone who goes against it on the Republican side walking the MAGA line and I just think anyone who goes against it on the Republican side and I think I mean I
Starting point is 00:51:10 think Charlie Kirk even put out a tweet saying we are gonna we're gonna primary you if you go against you know MAGA's agenda and obviously Gates is part of that MAGA agenda. agenda. When I see these states that voted blue on the border, like New Mexico, why did they do that? If the conventional wisdom is like, Hey, didn't you see what happened? Joe Biden fucking ruined your state. He opened the border and caused chaos in your state or carry Lake, not winning Arizona.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Is that, do those surprise you, especially from the border States? So let me, let me start with New Mexico. New Mexico had the illegal crossings, but the thing is New Mexico never had those images that you saw in Texas, right? Like thousands of folks, big lines, nothing that Mexico didn't hit New Mexico didn't hit those peaks or anything like that, but they just didn't have those like overwhelming images. I haven't I haven't looked at the counties on the border of New Mexico, so I'll be interested to see how they voted. If they maybe they went right, even
Starting point is 00:52:19 obviously as you get closer inland, they went blue. So I have to look at New Mexico but New Mexico didn't have those images. Arizona, and this is just for me watching politics and the whole thing I love studying everything the media is, and you might you might disagree with this, but Carrie Lake from my perspective, try to be too much female Trump. Like, she, you know, she, and I think what voters- I get that vibe from her. I get that vibe from her. I would call her the female Trump. Maybe like a little more refined,
Starting point is 00:52:57 smarter version of Trump even. I think the voters want to, like, what makes Trump Trump is that he's not putting up an act. It's it's him. He's an outlier. There's only one. There's only one Trump. And I think we try to see after Trump a lot of other politicians try to do the Trump playbook and it's just it's cringe.
Starting point is 00:53:18 It doesn't work. It doesn't roll off the tongue. What's different with Carrie Laker? She was a she was a TV journalist, TV anchor, so she's obviously very good on camera and a great, she's a good communicator. You don't have to like what she says. But the issue is, for a lot of voters, it wasn't authentic. She wasn't being herself, and I think she went too on the trying to be Trump where she
Starting point is 00:53:43 wasn't herself. And what was interesting is like, you didn't also see Trump like promote her like that like he wasn't yeah I door sir. He endorsed her but You didn't have the even Trump like Mago I mean you had obviously Charlie Kirk in that world supporting care like of course, but like Trump camp Wasn't throwing Carrie Lake like they weren't backing her as strong as maybe her first time she ran. Also, like you could also tell they never threw her on the campaign trail for Trump. Like she never came out and spoke, especially when
Starting point is 00:54:16 when the women vote was kind of like a becoming a bigger deal. I just think she went, like I said, to the point where she was too not herself. And I think that might have, there's obviously other dynamics in Arizona. And I mean, she ran against a moderate Democrat. It wasn't like Rubin came out and was like open borders or anything. I mean, he supports strong borders, you know, was able to communicate that message to the working class voters on both sides. And I just think, like I said, this is my perspective,
Starting point is 00:54:45 you know, people are gonna disagree, that's fine. She just was not herself. And I think that was just clear to the voters. Do you think the fact that the Trump team didn't use her in the campaign or didn't really get behind her as much as they could have, that that's a sign she's also not gonna get a position in the Trump admin? Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. I, you know, obviously we will have to find out more internally
Starting point is 00:55:11 what Trump was thinking. But that's like one thing that I've noticed because it was like candidates that are in those tight races, Trump would come in either to support or even do speeches. I remember like the big one was like Montana. I forgot that it was Tester against the body. I forgot, but Montana had kind of an issue. Trump came in and support. I think if Trump really did believe in Kerry Lake, they would have brought her out on his campaign trail because you needed that, you needed the women vote.
Starting point is 00:55:37 You needed a good communicator and they never pulled her in. I mean, he went with Megyn Kelly before he went with Kerry Lake. So I think they saw something there. I mean like I said you you we would probably have to find a little bit more but I Think because I'm always interested to know what like what Republican voters are saying so I kind of just reached out to some of my friends who are Republican voters and Many of them were like hey, I like Carrie Lake, you know She has a strong message, but she's like, they would be like, she's
Starting point is 00:56:06 doing the Trump sticks too much. There's only one Trump that it's just, you know, be Carrie Lake. Let, let it be Trump. And, uh, I think that's, that's what probably cost her in the end. Jorge, the other thing. So what's the deal with terrorists coming across? And by terrorist, I mean, um, people mean people from, you know, the Middle East, Al Qaeda, ISIS, Iranians. Is that a real threat also?
Starting point is 00:56:35 I keep hearing, I keep seeing the stats I see is like 13 were apprehended at the border during Trump's administration, now 116 or something have been apprehended during the Biden administration. Is there a serious threat here in the country you think? Yeah, I think the Biden one's a lot higher. Yes, absolutely. This is the reason it's a serious threat. A, because we had so much illegal immigration
Starting point is 00:57:00 that it overloads border patrol agents, it overloads systems, all that, operations. We know that, right? When you have this massive amount of illegal immigration. that it overloads voter patrol agents, it overloads systems, all that operations. We know that, right? When you have this massive amount of legal immigration. The other issue is these individuals are coming from countries that the US government has labeled as special interest, meaning they need to be deeply vetted because they're coming from a country that we are not friendly with Terracized things like that China's also under is under special interests the issue with these special interest countries, right? I've got a Santa, you know a bunch of countries in Africa all this stuff the Middle East Asia is
Starting point is 00:57:41 Is when these individuals crossover illegally in the government or the border patrol agents tries to vet them with their information, 99% of the time that country will not share that information with the United States. So what do I mean by that? For instance, and we have this issue with Venezuela as well, is if a Venezuelan who's committing crimes in Venezuela comes over to the US illegally,
Starting point is 00:58:07 the US government probably won't even know that because when they vet them or they check their information, the government of Venezuela is not going to share any other database with us. And same thing with all these migrants coming or I want to say migrant individuals coming from special interest countries is those countries are not going to share any type of criminal database with the United States. So what happens is and I know we're going to talk about we're talking about terrorists but I want to bring out a pretty heinous crime is that Venezuelan Jose Ibarra. Jose Ibarra is the man who
Starting point is 00:58:42 murdered the Georgia student Lincoln Riley right? So when Jose Ibarra crosses a Likely is the criminal back in Venezuela. I'm just you know, just trying to write if I was a betting man The issue is Jose Barr comes over illegally in El Paso US border patrol obviously does the apprehension they do the processing They have nothing to say he bars the criminal Venezuela. So then he bar gets released, you know with the end Well, you know, he gets released into us with like a future court date, whatever whatever Then Jose bar commits a crime. And that's only with an individual from Venezuela. Can you imagine someone from Afghanistan that has terrorized? We have literally no idea.
Starting point is 00:59:36 I believe, I don't know if you could Google it, I believe NBC News had a story where the government found out that 13 terrorists terrorists were like in the US for like months. I mean there's not a bunch of more of these stories of folks from like Middle East countries, Asia, who have terrorist ties, crazy, you know, just ties to some sketchy stuff. There was like ISIS trafficking story. These individuals, like I said, the government has no, I mean the board of portrayals just can't get a database. I believe there was also an issue where a lot of these individuals were also getting fake passports in Turkey, so then when they would cross over illegally, they had kind of a fake identification to get, you know.
Starting point is 01:00:17 And once again, it's hard to verify if the other country isn't willing to share the database. And an issue that I've reported with the Chinese, and I've been reporting this for two years, two and a half years, is the Chinese would come over, and what the Chinese would do is they would destroy their identification documents on the Mexican border and then cross illegally. So then the US, you know, then these guys are giving the US government a fake Chinese name, they can't really, they can't verify it
Starting point is 01:00:44 because China doesn't want to share any information. So then, you know, we don't know who these guys are giving the US government a fake Chinese name. They can't really, they can't verify it because China doesn't want to share any information. So then, you know, we don't know who these individuals are. And it's just, once again, it's just piling on each other, this issue of national security. I think Tom Homan too, I think, I mean, I don't know this, but I think they're going to put a huge shutdown, obviously on the border and everything, but they're going to put a stop on special interest aliens, i think even being released into the u.s just because you have to verify i mean it's almost you know you have to verify if the country doesn't want to share that database um i i personally think they're gonna probably just do a whole block on on anyone from a special interest country you know um during covid um people got really rich giving the shot.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Like I had acquaintances who were able to buy homes in Costa Rica, new G wagons. These are physicians who they got paid for every injection they gave. One of the ways the federal government might wanna do this is I guarantee you all the police forces across the country would step in line if they could sell illegal aliens back to the federal government. Meaning you know you do a traffic stop and you got someone and they're illegal, sell them back to the federal government they give your department 100 bucks. You know what I mean? I'm sure I bet you there's really creative ways that you could start scooping these people up really really quickly. I think I think check. If you could, I believe there's an Ohio Sheriff.
Starting point is 01:02:07 I mean, I wish I had a tweet yesterday. There's an Ohio Sheriff who was like, who was like, I believe you put out a tweet saying like, hey, President Trump, we are like, I forgot the county. He's like, our county is ready to work with you to get those illegals out of here. So I think you'll have those conservative counties come out and work close with Tom Holman and ICE in this deportation process.
Starting point is 01:02:34 On the other hand, you're gonna also have those cities that are not gonna cooperate. So I'm wondering how Holman's gonna kind of work that. I know from my home state in California I know LAPD chief has already come out I was like we're not gonna cooperate he said they're not gonna cooperate we said they're not gonna cooperate yeah I think yeah I think it was yesterday I saw that in a press or the LAPD chief said that they're not going to cooperate. I know I saw that in Ohio, the sheriff said that they are. So I'm willing to bet
Starting point is 01:03:11 money there's probably going to be more sheriffs in, like I said, more conservative counties, or even Democrat sheriffs who saw that issue firsthand. They'll do anything for money. They'll do anything for money. These guys are whores. They'll do anything for money. These guys, these guys are whores. They'll do, they'll do anything for money. And boy, I hope, I hope after what we saw happen in California and Oakland with the mayor and the DA getting recalled and this, this joker, the district attorney and what's his name in Los Angeles? Gosson. Yeah. Thank Son or what? Yeah, thank God. He's gone. I Okay, what another question When they give us these stats this is
Starting point is 01:03:58 Piggybacking off of the vetting thing you're saying when they give us these stats like there's 13,000 rapists who were released or 13,000 murderers Are you literally are they telling me that they caught someone they vetted them? They saw that they were a murderer and that they still let them go into our country? They um so those are those are individuals what they they say they gotta um it's that and then there's a crip it's called like an ICE criminal docket so a lot of also those folks have committed those serious crimes but are in jails now here in the US. So it's, yeah, I gotta get the exact numbers, but yeah, it was like 13, it was like crazy the amount.
Starting point is 01:04:32 It was over 10,000 for rapists and killers each in the pile. And I was like, wait a second, you're telling me they catch these guys, they know that they rape someone and yet they still let them go in the country? You still let them, let's still let them go, man. Yeah. Like I said, those are the individuals, um, that I think Homan has made clear in his messaging so far in the media that are going to be deported first. Um, and I think they're going to start working, working their way down. Um, so they're going to remove all, all, I think they're going to
Starting point is 01:05:01 remove all those individuals. I mean, I don't, you know, I don't know of all, um, but I think they're going to, they individuals. I mean, I don't you know, I don't know of all And but I think they're gonna they're gonna start to go after him and I think they might even like the I think sometimes The local law enforcement that maybe not is not gonna try to cooperate might be might be feeling the pressure to So I think that's what Holman wants to address as soon as Trump takes office in January Did you see the James O'Keefe border border movie? office in January. Did you see the James O'Keefe border movie? No, no I did not. I didn't see it either but I heard it was great. Are you hearing good things about it? I haven't seen it. Oh man, people are not going to like me for this. I haven't seen it. The thing as a border reporter and reporting on this issue is and this is man okay the audience is gonna take the turn on me.
Starting point is 01:05:57 You think it was glorified? You think he went too far? You think he exaggerated? He does things that are so over the top that it kills the messaging. And hold on, everyone. Slow your roll before you call me the libtard. Um. The thing that turned me off was when I think when I started first seeing clips was that Border patrol agent guy.
Starting point is 01:06:30 He was acting like he was exposing something that we almost didn't know. He didn't give me any new information and O'Keefe portrayed him as a whistleblower. He didn't give us any information that we didn't know. We knew that these kids are being released and we knew about this. I mean new york times covered it so he didn't he wasn't giving me anything new and i think what would um i don't know if your audience knows that the the podcast fresh and fit i i saw that i saw that same border patrol agent like about two three
Starting point is 01:06:59 months before the old key film on the on the fresh and Fit and he was like a full Border Patrol outfit and once again he was being portrayed as a whistleblower but when I saw it a whistleblower gives you something absolutely new bombshell. Yeah. Like something it would have to be something egregious where like I don't know like let's say a Venezuelan came and let's just, this is just an example. Let's say we could, there was a database and let's say this Venezuelan came and we found
Starting point is 01:07:29 out that this guy committed like five homicides in Venezuela. Even we just released him to the US. That's a bomb show. But he didn't give me, he wasn't giving us anything new. And the thing is, like I said, first I saw him on that Fresh and Fit podcast. And when I saw it, no new information, nothing that was whistleblower worthy. I almost saw a guy like just trying to get some clout, you know? And I kind of saw it, like I could see when someone is actually trying to give you valuable information and when someone is doing the, trying to get clout.
Starting point is 01:08:06 I don't know if they want clicks, followers. I don't know if this guy's like, let me get out. If I do this, look, maybe that guy also is like, I get it, he might have good intentions. I know that he probably thinks it's an issue and his morale is down in Border Patrol and I get that. I spoke with Border Patrol agents who literally tell me, Jorge, I'm basically an Uber driver.
Starting point is 01:08:24 I think I've said that quote many times on your show. I'm an Uber driver. I think I've said that quote like many times on your show. I'm an Uber driver for migrants. I get that. But I saw him trying to get clout. I didn't see him actually trying to give me any any valuable information. He brought the 300,000 kids. It's like, yeah, we know that because a reporter broke that in New York Times. So he would, no bombshell. And that was, I saw him on Fresh and Fit. And then I see the O'Keeffe, I saw the O'Keeffe clips. And once again, I was like, he never gave me anything new. And then like all these documents, like, you know, O'Keeffe obviously would do the thing with like, oh, they sent him this thing of like, why did he talk to us? It's like, well, yeah, he's a federal agent. He's not supposed to be like on camera in uniform.
Starting point is 01:09:05 Like, I don't, I just, I don't know. It was like, I, that just was like, I don't know. Even, um, I noticed that like the border reporters that like were like on the ground and who broke like real investigative stories, none of them got like tapped for this documentary. Um, some of the guys that O'Keefe work with, uh, like the Anthony Aguero guy, he's like a guy who's like all about clout, he's like a streamer on the border. And the thing is Anthony's not a real reporter, so Anthony can say a lot of fake things and he won't get fired or he won't lose people's audience. And like, I don't know, O'Keefe put so much like, he like trusted that guy. I don't know. It was just.
Starting point is 01:09:46 From, like I said, like from being a reporter on the border, breaking these stories and other, other really good reporters, like none of them got tapped for this. Um, so you think it was more, it was, it was sensationalized and some things that we've known all along were kind of like, uh, makeup was put on the pig. Like, yeah, we know it's 300,000 kids. Yeah, we know the cartels running sections of the border. Yeah, a lot of that stuff. We know the border patrol are upset having to be Uber drivers. Tanya Bowers, I like and respect Jorge's honesty is experienced in heart for sticking to the facts. Thank
Starting point is 01:10:17 you, sir. Simon Hernandez, such a good podcast. Jorge's the man so much good info and crazy stories. This man has. I also want to say but I'm not saying that the documentary wasn't good or it's not, I always want the message he's got. So people should watch it, whatever. I'm just saying that someone who was on the ground, I didn't get anything new that was like, oh my God.
Starting point is 01:10:41 Like I said, I haven't watched it. I don't know if, I think O'Keefe goes into Mexico and does things and all that that stuff that'd be great um like i said i haven't watched it um but like i also didn't like i said people could get mad at me for this but i also don't also agree with this like and i because i've seen that that guy anthony aguero do it and i said aguero work with o'keefe where they they kind of Border Patrol agents as like, you guys are like trafficking children. When it's like, dude, Border Patrol agents are not trafficking children. They're under federal government rule and under the Biden administration, it's a catch and release policy.
Starting point is 01:11:18 At the end of the day, these are guys doing their job. And I don't know, it's just, like I said, it seemed like a lot of it was to get clouds and clicks and I completely get that so that that's my perspective so I know I know I know if I I probably sound like a hater but no no you don't I feel you on it really give you guys like a fake answer like oh it was great I you know like I said the board was your whistleblower he didn't he didn't give me anything new he didn't even uh Iblower, he didn't give me anything new. He didn't even, I don't know, he didn't give us a document that said like, hey, Border Patrol agent encountered a terrorist
Starting point is 01:11:50 and then we still release him. Like, the kids thing too, like the kid thing we knew about. I mean, and like I said, I just saw Border Patrol agent more caring about trying to get famous than giving us the truth. And I think O'Keefe ran with that. And yeah, I don't know, man. I just, like I said, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:12:10 They try to portray Border Patrol as the bad guys in this story when, I mean, they're absolutely not. If anything, they're the entity that has their hands completely tied in this story for me. Let's talk about some juicy gossip. Rumors of MSNBC and CNN being purchased by Elon. Let's talk about some juicy gossip. Rumors of MSNBC and CNN being purchased by Elon.
Starting point is 01:12:30 Are you hearing say that again? I would have to see a credible report on Elon wanting to buy them. I haven't seen anything credible on that. It's a great rumor, isn't it? Yeah, yeah I mean I know ratings are down but I would have I mean it would be hard to imagine Elon actually buying MSNBC but honestly I mean actually we've seen crazier things happen. I think it's interesting right now there's kind of like something happening in media where Jeff Bezos came out, blocked the Washington Post Kamala endorsement.
Starting point is 01:13:11 It doesn't care that he uses the press. Which is not a credible organization by the way. Speaking of not credible organizations, the Washington Post is not a credible organization. They are very bad. And I think, you know, Bezos that, you know, who knows what his true intentions are obviously, you know, has Amazon and other things that he's worried about, you know, government contracts, things like that. But I noticed that obviously what's with the post LA Times, the owner of the New York LA Times and goes and then blocks the Kamala endorsement
Starting point is 01:13:42 as well. They call Derry Elder a white man in blackface, also scumbags of the highest order. Go on, sorry. And then obviously the election happens. And then I saw like a tweet by the LA Times owner saying, the voters have spoken and they are not with this, you know, the messaging that basically the LA Times has been putting out. This is the owner of the LA Times saying the voters have spoken and they are not with this, you know, the messaging that basically the LA Times has been putting out. This is the owner of the LA Times saying the voters have spoken and we have not been aligned and so he's like, he basically put it out so he said we are going to be more fair balanced, we're going to have more nuanced views.
Starting point is 01:14:16 There's a lot of on the left leaning media, it'd be like Pod Save America and the other ones who are actually having honest assessments of why they lost the election, right? Being honest and being like the voters are not with us. If you watch MSNBC, they still don't get it. They still don't get that America is not with their messaging. And I think you'll see that in the ratings as that continue. We'll see if someone comes in and buys them out. I know that today, I think like Infowars sold to the onion and that like auction thing, that's a whole nother story. But it's just like, if you're, you know, I'm just wondering on what, I know CNN has been trying to
Starting point is 01:15:00 kind of come back into the middle where MSNBC has absolutely not, I mean, if anything, MSNBC still almost like attacks their voters who don't agree with them. I mean, not their voters, but they attack kind of Americans who don't have that viewpoint that they do. And I think they're good, I mean, they're paying for, corporate media right now is really paying
Starting point is 01:15:19 for this election, it's a big wake up call for them. A lot of them, I believe Brian Selzer put out a report that he talked to a TV executive where the TV executive admitted, he's like, hey, people don't give a shit about us anymore. They don't, obviously they don't care what we have to say. We've been saying Trump is a fascist or a threat to democracy for four years. Obviously, they don't agree with that. So I think they're losing their footing.
Starting point is 01:15:43 I believe the Wall Street Journal put out that report after there's like a Trump went on this huge podcast run. I believe the headline was, uh, the new media is leaving the old guard behind. Um, so for me right now, we're watching this kind of, obviously we've been watching media change, but I think this election was a huge wake up call for a lot of these folks where they've, they messaging and they're trying to reel it back. And I think that's what the LA Times owner is trying to do. You know, we don't know Basil's true intentions, but it seems like he's trying to reel that
Starting point is 01:16:12 back in and trying to have that more balanced approach. So we'll, you know, we'll obviously see if that even happens. You know, we saw like Jon Stewart leave Comedy uh, comedy central back in the day. Um, and, uh, he lost his clout. We saw O'Reilly get kicked off of Fox. He lost his clout and there's endless examples. But when Tucker got booted off of Fox, he fucking survived. And I know the, and what's crazy is Tucker kind of, I think people
Starting point is 01:16:43 like always talk about Rogan, but what Tucker did is really the true he actually made the fucking leap and He's more popular than ever. It's crazy. Yeah, I think Tucker's change is Tucker's move or Fox getting rid of Tucker Has created this I think like with his Tucker Carlson network and with the subscription service, is going to like absolutely change the game in the way this new media landscape is shaping up. What made, what the interesting with journalism thing, and this is what I'm trying to tell folks is, for instance, this is just like, I'm just in a little example, but even before I was technically working for the Daily Caller, I had folks that supported
Starting point is 01:17:31 me when I was in college. I remember I would do a lot of self-funding trips and people believed in me, donated, we were able to do a lot of reporting. That's me without an employer. What I think, I don't know if Fox knew knew this but Tucker had built so much trust with people It didn't even matter where Tucker could go people were gonna follow him no matter what he He's now created his own media platform where I think other big-time journalists were people who love them support them a lot of people what who I don't know, you know, maybe Fox did not realize this a lot of people who, I don't know, maybe Fox did not realize this, a lot of folks who watched
Starting point is 01:18:06 Tucker necessarily weren't Fox News people, but they felt like Tucker told them the truth, right? I know a lot of people who watched Fox strictly for Tucker, and assumed that Tucker would be Hannity, and they just hated Hannity. They felt like, oh, it's back to that boomer kind of Republican talking points, I can't. Where Tucker wasn't that. Tucker would criticize both sides, he would go really hard at Republicans.
Starting point is 01:18:28 But in a way that like, you know, Republican voters wanted to see and channel that anger. And I think Tucker right now is gonna change the media landscape with his move. He's gonna be obviously, I mean, he's gonna be I think successful, that's for sure now. What was interesting to me now is, and we could bring this up because Don Lemon announced it that he's going to be, I think, successful. That's for sure now. Well, what's interesting to me now is and we can bring this up because Don Lemon announced it
Starting point is 01:18:48 that he's leaving X yesterday. I believe Don Lemon was fired. Again, Don Lemon's leave. What do you mean he's leaving X? Like he's not going to post on Twitter anymore? Yeah, yeah, he posted his whole statement. But what I wanted to mention was, so Don Lemon and Tucker are similar, right?
Starting point is 01:19:04 They're both been at this network and then at their networks for years, I think over a decade, and they both get fired. Tucker gets fired, but he has trust and following so he can start his own thing. Don Lemon gets fired and he was like, he doesn't have to launch the Don Lemon network, but he's like, hey, I'm gonna go, I'll be independent. And then the thing with Don is he went independent, but he still has the mainstream media mindset where Tucker has already been,
Starting point is 01:19:40 even on Fox has been speaking freely. And then now he can just let it off the guardrails where Don Lemon left corporate media but then still has a corporate media mindset trying to operate this independent media space and it just has been an absolute disaster. Great description dude, great description. Where and then you see Megyn Kelly starts her own thing, can now speak way freely, and doesn't have a corporate media mindset where Don is still operating there. And you saw that right away when he interviewed Musk.
Starting point is 01:20:11 He still had a corporate media mindset. And I think it just has not worked out the way that it's worked out for Tucker and other folks who've been able to break off independent. And it doesn't even have to be like you starting a whole network. It could just be, hey, I'm going independent, I'm on a subset. People love Matt Taibbi, Glenn Greenwald,
Starting point is 01:20:33 all these other journalists. So that to me was interesting to watch. And I think one thing that I've been having in a conversation with journalists, particularly student journalists in colleges, is earn your trust with your audience. For instance, I'm working, I work for News Nation right now.
Starting point is 01:20:50 I don't want to be fired. I like, I like working for News Nation. But let's just say, for example, News Nation fires me tomorrow. News Nation could fire me tomorrow and I could at least then tomorrow, let's say there was a store on the board I really wanted to get to, I could at least then turn around to my and or reporting's happened. So I've been telling student journalists, for example, don't worry about having thousands of followers and a big following. Just get 10 people to trust you like get 10 people to ride or die for your content. Even obviously you'll have 50 people in 100 and then you can build up because we live in an era people trust the journalists not necessarily the media company name if that makes sense. Dude, Tommy G.
Starting point is 01:21:47 That's the man. That's the fucking man. I mean, he, I mean, the thing is, is don't get me wrong. He has an incredible amount of self-confidence. He's obviously eminently capable as a man. He's self-assured. He can go anywhere. But like any, any, if you're, if you're a 15 to fucking 25 year old male that has nothing
Starting point is 01:22:04 going on and you can get three friends Who will work as hard or just even yourself you can just start being a journalist? I mean, it's hard work. It is 20, you know, it's 24 7 but what else are you gonna do chase pussy? I mean like That's true Like I I'm surprised there aren't more I'm surprised there more it's just consistent in every day Just go out and start telling stories pick up what you can film it with your phone now
Starting point is 01:22:30 Did you see these new road mics that came out? Oh Hey Did you see they have a hundred and forty nine dollar version now that plugs into the road just announced yesterday plugs into the bottom Of your iPhone and you just click it and you're done I mean, I know other people have had that before, but now road has cracked the code on it. I mean, like it's done. They'll probably pass DJI is like the new popular one, you know? Oh yeah. I mean, I agree. I think, you know, um,
Starting point is 01:22:55 you used to do all your stuff when I met you, you were cell phone guy. And in the caliber of work was crazy high, crazy high. And you were the cell phone guy. It is just honestly, it's all about, cause I was just, you know, super passionate. I, I, I was still on my advice. A lot of folks, you know, see it and they're like, they just want the, they just want the part where they're on TV and they're getting recognition. Um, but your heart has to be in the game cause you have to do it for years with no following.
Starting point is 01:23:28 I think the reason why a lot of people stray away from journalism, this is just the truth, is like, I mean, it's hard. It's extremely hard to make a living. Like, the folks who actually make a living, it's a little bit of percentage. Especially on the national level. You know, a lot of people go down the local news route, but it's, I mean, it's hard.
Starting point is 01:23:53 It's hard to make it to the other side where you could A, make a living. Making a living is one thing. Then the next step is can I support a family? You know, when I was at the Daily Caller I came in the game a little for me a little bit late because like Daily Caller usually takes in college interns I like, you know when they're you know, 18 19 20 21 I was that going to community college, you know, I was I was the F up when I was around 20 21 So I I went to community college late. I got into Daily Caller late like a 25 and at that time I'm making not really
Starting point is 01:24:25 a lot of money because you know, Daily Caller is like a digital media. And you know, at that time, I could make that much money at 25, 20. I'm 29 now. And you know, I can't do that anymore. I'm gonna have, you know, I'm trying to have a family or, you know, also be like the man who puts food on the table. So I could see why that it's a big turn off for people. It's hard. Like I said, the folks you see maybe on TV, it's the 1% that make it to even that, you know, millionaire status. So the rest are essentially eating crumbs, fighting for crumbs. It's just a huge, huge uphill battle. Well also what sets you apart is You found something you're passionate about and so you're excited if you hear something going on
Starting point is 01:25:12 You're like a border expert. You've become an expert. You're interested in what the walls made of what's the best way to cross? What's the worst way to cross who are the leaders along the wall? What animals are at the wall what the weather's like at the wall? I mean you're a fucking border fucking expert and it's your passion. So like you don't have any problem getting out of bed every morning. Right. And so like, yeah, you're going to win. You're going to win no matter what. That's also the huge part. You have to like, you give a fuck like you're a PhD in the wall. And it's like, it's, it's pretty fucking cool what you've done with yourself.
Starting point is 01:25:49 Thank you man. Yeah you just have to be like you have to be delusional. I think that uh and a big thing too is like when I got the internship at the Daily Caller and then um I think it was like the third day of my internship is when when the George Floyd riots started and when the riots started I remember I remember thinking um I'm, if I don't basically risk my life and cover these riots, then I'm never gonna make it. And I basically looked at that as like a life or death situation, because I was like, man, I'm 25. So if I don't get a job with the Daily Caller
Starting point is 01:26:21 and I go back home to California, back to community college, I'm like, I'm going to basically have to, I'm going to end myself, you know, I mean, as a joke, but I was like, I don't, I'm running out of options. So I remember when that, when that happened, I just was like, I'm, I'm going to risk it all because I'm like, I have no, there's no plan B for me after this. And I think with anything, it doesn't even have to be journalism You just have to have that delusional mindset to where there's like there's no effing plan B Because plan B is deaf for me is almost the mindset I had to have So when the riots kicked off, it wasn't even a question man that I was gonna be in the field
Starting point is 01:27:00 Didn't care about the dangers didn't care about being arrested beat up Oh, I mean, I just was like I have to do this or I'm gonna like not gonna do it. I'm never gonna do this again for the rest of my life and I'm gonna hate my life forever. So I just had balls to the wall man and just put my head down and said, I don't give an F. Speaking of riots, I'm so surprised there aren't riots I do want to say something real quick. Um, how come the left isn't rioting? I thought for sure they'd be fucking I mean, that's their playbook, right? Why aren't they? I remember I told I told my work. I was like, hey, do you guys need me in washington dc?
Starting point is 01:27:38 I got the helmet. I got the gas mask. I kind of yeah I think the energy is out man. And then I mean, Trump winning the popular vote. I thought they were going to write too. I do want to do a quick shout out real quick. For folks who actually want all the crazy deep, like the inner stories into the 2020 riots. My former colleague at the Daily Caller, Richie McGinnis, just, this has just came out, like literally like last week,
Starting point is 01:28:11 his, a new book, it's called Riot Diet, and it's on Amazon, and it's amazing. Richie basically tells, he's part of our, the DC Riot Squad. Tell his name for me, R I C H I E or Y. No, it's with the E, Richie, Eden Mcginnis, MCGI, N N I S, Richie Mcginnis. It's called Riot Diet. So if you guys were fascinated about the riots and the riot coverage and just like that part of history, but you also want the inner story of like
Starting point is 01:28:42 of us, the Daily Call Caller like us breaking this story, us putting ourselves in danger, but also us because at that point now it's now it's easier to be like, oh yeah, the riots are crazy, all the stuff. But I remember at that time, the corporate media consensus was these are peaceful protests. So we went against that corporate media bias. And I don't want to spend too much time talking about it but really recommend everyone to get the book especially from Richie's perspective. He's such a great storyteller but for folks who don't know, Richie was in front of when
Starting point is 01:29:16 we were in Kenosha for the for the RinnHouse shooting. Richie was in front of Rosenbaum. That's the guy that got shot in the head by Rinnhouse. Was he the pedophile? Was Rosenbaum the pedophile? Yes. So, Ricky tells you the story of basically, because at that time, we don't know who Rosenbaum is. We don't have his criminal history on us. He's just a random guy. So, he tells you the story of witnessing him get shot in the head. Authorities basically telling Richie, you know, basically Richie going to the hospital,
Starting point is 01:29:50 meeting with authorities, breaking down this crazy situation. Even a year later, Richie then had to go on trial because he was a witness and played a key role in why Wren House won for self-defense. Richie's eyewitness statement was was big because I forgot who was the individual but there was an individual that went for Rittenhouse's gun and then they attacked him with a skateboard first and I believe that that statement played a huge role in Rittenhouse having a self-defense. So either way, please everyone, you guys you guys have to check it out it's called riot diet and uh it's just like one of those key moments it's in our history um i don't see the audiobook where the
Starting point is 01:30:31 fuck is the audiobook i don't know if there's an audio yeah um i know he has paperback yeah so yeah riot diet it's a interesting perspective from from from from richie then Richie kind of tells you the inner stories about me of like Salvadorian kid from California On an unpaid internship and how you know we just went you know how we just went crazy at the right I think the funny the first thing the funny thing is on my first day of my internship when I when I meet Richie And I shake his hands. I remember looking at him and then I'm telling him I'm like hey, man I'm a crazy motherfucker, bro. So if you whatever you need me to do, I'm gonna do it. And then little do we know the riots kicked off like 40 hours later. And you were there with them? You guys were partners in crime there? Yes. Yes. It was technically it was me, Richie. And then we had a female
Starting point is 01:31:21 reporter, Shelby Telcott. and we got labeled as the DC Riot Squad because we were the ones we went to Seattle Chazz. First we were in DC because DC got crazy. We went we were in DC then we I remember we flew directly to Seattle because Seattle had that Seattle Chazz thing. If you guys remember Portland, Portland rioted for over 100 days and I think we were there for like three weeks of it. So there's just a bunch of good stuff and you guys, like I said, crazy stories. I for folks who remember, I went to I got arrested because Louisville PD thought I was a rioter and I, you know, I went to jail overnight.
Starting point is 01:32:01 You know, there's racist. Yeah, there's a lot of good stuff. I think the audience will kind of enjoy that moment in history. But also just like I said, from our perspective of like, you know, we were three journalists at a digital media company that wasn't like nationally known. I mean, yeah, Daily Caller was known in DC. And for folks who don't know, Daily Caller at that time was owned, I believe half of it or majority of it was owned by Tucker Carlson. Does he still own it? No, during, during 2020, he, he, he, his co-owner or co-founder was his college roommate, Neil Patel. And Neil Patel was like the big
Starting point is 01:32:41 boss also at the daily caller. And during the 2020 riots, Tucker let Patel own 100% of it. And I don't know the fear, like the real reason why. My personal theory is that I remember during that time, Tucker was so passionate about the riots. I remember his, I mean, his show was number one, but it really hit number one in the summer of 2020 because he was just so angry, obviously, of the images,
Starting point is 01:33:08 but he was also attacking Republican leadership for not protecting American cities. And I think, like I said, from my theory is, I think Tucker got so passionate about that issue and just about where the country was going that he was like, Neil, you handle Daily Caller. I got a bigger fish to fry. And I think that's kind of what happened in 2020.
Starting point is 01:33:27 I don't know if you know the truth. The caller just broke the big FEMA story where FEMA was, they have evidence of FEMA avoiding houses that have Trump signs on them to help. That was a pretty crazy story. Yeah, it was a crazy, I believe, oh, yeah, oh, yeah, that's right, that's right. A couple days ago.
Starting point is 01:33:44 Now mainstream media was forced to cover that story imagine imagine Imagine Bro, did he call her to it when I was there and this was a big story to one rewards I um one of our reporters broke the story of Andrew Cuomo and the whole old people and the ventilator story Yeah, yeah, they broke that and uh yeah, man, great people over there. I love those guys to death. Jorge, does the, imagine January 6th again, right?
Starting point is 01:34:14 And those people roll up to the Capitol and the Capitol surrounded by 50 water trucks. Does the American public have the stomach to open water cannons on protesters and keep them off the and rubber bullets to keep them off the Capitol? For me, it seems for me personally, it's a no brainer. You approach the Capitol building. By the way, I don't think it was any to call it an insurrection.
Starting point is 01:34:36 I think you're a complete fucking moron, especially relative to what we saw happen in Minneapolis. If you don't have fire and you don't have guns, it's just... I've done worse things that happened on January 6th than when I was in high school with my friends on a weekly basis. But why not... Do the American people have the stomach for water cannons and rubber bullets?
Starting point is 01:34:59 I think they do. Why not just spray all those fuckers down and send them down the street? Down to a pub or something? Dude, now you're thinking about it. I think in the water canyon would be a great tactic. I mean, they should have done that everywhere. Why not just drive trucks around and just spray people down, just spray them away?
Starting point is 01:35:19 See? I would, I completely, like you cannot march on a police station. You cannot, you cannot walk on the cap. the I like the water cannon truck idea. Why would you not bring that up? It would make for...I was looking online if I could buy a truck. You can buy a water cannon truck made in China for $150,000 and have it sent to your house. Yeah, when you watch the protests in foreign countries, those things just mow people down. It's great content. And it's great viral content. Dude, why don't we not do water cannons water cannons dude just water cannons everywhere They do I'll tell you a little stat on them. I was looking at the stats on You know some of these some of these people they could get they'll go through rubber bullets all fucking day even though they hurt
Starting point is 01:36:21 They'll go most I've seen it. I've been in those crowds those sure bullets over bullets and they hurt. I've been hit by them. Literally one in the forehead at one time. Seriously? Yeah. And DC hit me in the forehead. It was my first night as an intern and it hit me right in the forehead. I was actually on Instagram live and I remember I was in this police line. I'm like, oh, this might be great content because the mob and the police aren't about to clash. So I'm filming and this cop aims and I'm like, oh, he's not even gonna shoot at me, right? He knows I'm press and he fucking shoots me in the forehead and then I ran up to the side and I wasn't bleeding and it was on my Instagram live so my following was like the falls were going crazy in the comments and then some guy runs over to me and obviously obviously he gets he sees a guy shot in the forehead
Starting point is 01:37:07 and he's like and i didn't even think about this he goes hey man he's like thank god that rubber bullet did not land an inch or two you would have been fucking blind i'm like right whoa and i remember the next day i guess a military guy was watching my live he could and he goes hey, Jorge I saw what happened in you not cool. He's like I'm gonna send you a Military grade goggles it is like and I'm gonna send you a military grade helmet and like the next day It was already at my address and I'm like dude, let's fucking go and then after that I was never scared of that again, but but I didn't realize I was like, dude, you're right I could actually I could have gone fucking blind in my
Starting point is 01:37:41 I was never scared of that again, but I didn't realize, I was like, dude, you were right, I could've actually, I could've gone fucking blind in my, oh my God, I couldn't even imagine. Did that give you a, did you have a headache from that or a concussion? No, no, thank God. It was just like a big kind of whiplash.
Starting point is 01:37:55 Even, I mean, I was good to go after that. I still reported several hours, you know, and then the only thing I had was a bump, but no, when the equipment came in, I was ready to go. And then the funny thing is, I was a college intern. I don't have experience coming to riots. No one did at that time, especially at that magnitude of the Black Lives Matter riots. But I remember we go to Portland and same thing, I'm on Instagram Live.
Starting point is 01:38:19 This time I have the proper helmet and goggles, but I didn't have a gas mask because to that point, no one has fired gas into the crowd. But in Portland, they did. And I remember I got caught up in it. So I'm on live and you can see me like basically crying. You can see people like knitting milk in their eyes. I remember I was just crying, gushing. I mean, this is nasty, but when you're in that gas, you have a runny nose too. So the runny nose starts, you have basically crying. And then some other basically I guess the former security guy saw that like at a high level he sent me this like fancy like crazy gas message like I mean it's arrived all summer 2020 and I still have it it's still ready to go if
Starting point is 01:39:00 it's new. So you wore it in other situations where you got tear gassed? Yeah, just because like I said, it was, you know, I didn't, you know, you have to imagine also from my perspective, right? Like, I was coming from like a like a community college reporting, and then all of a sudden, we're in these fucking crazy riots where the country's changing. So I didn't and I just hit the ground running. And because these were so new, it wasn't like Daily Call, you know, network TV journalists, you know, they always have this riot gear ready.
Starting point is 01:39:32 So like we were at the Daily Callers. These are guys that literally, I mean, all they do is report on Congress and senators. They're not, you know, they don't, they didn't have any riot gear ready to go. So it was almost, during that time was you had a alert on the spot and I remember like like I said coming from from from community college the thinking was always you know when you go when you go
Starting point is 01:39:54 to report you want to be TV presentable obviously right nice suit you want to look clean so I was used to that mindset and I remember when I when I my first night covering the riots I was telling whatever close to their rights, but I remember after covering the riots I went back to my team because I witnessed a few TV Cameramen actually get assaulted like get beat up pretty bad. There's actually one photographer. I went it's got stomped out and And I remember I told I when I went back to the daily caller team for like our night to us Hey guys, like from my personal perspective We need to dress like like them like if we look like journalists, they're gonna they're gonna assault us rob us
Starting point is 01:40:33 It's gonna get ugly out there I said, I think we need to do the black block clothing, right? Whereas we were all black just like they do no logos and then we need us do undercover and blend in So then we started changing do undercover and blend in. So then we started changing our tactics and started doing that. So for instance, when we would arrive at a riot, we wouldn't just arrive there and be filming people,
Starting point is 01:40:52 we would arrive there, and for about an hour we would join marches. So if there was marches, all cops are bastards, all cops are bastards, we were doing it too. Basically people thought we were with them, and then little by little- You're trying to assimilate. You're trying to assimilate.
Starting point is 01:41:10 Yeah, and people who talk to us, we also had to adapt the language. Like I said, I didn't know that these people, like, cause you always hear that like on the internet, like that, that like far left is say the word comrade, but I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, people don't probably, people don't say that in person though, right? It's cringey.
Starting point is 01:41:24 And then, and then we had the protest, and people will be like, hey, what's going on, comrade? And I'm like, oh, shit, they do say that. So then I had to like adapt my language and, you know, I basically had to talk like I was like some freedom fighter revolution guy like a Marxist, like a Marxist, like a Marxist. And then the funny this is going to be in the Riot Diet book, but this is hilarious. So we get to, we get to Seattle Chazz and, um, and obviously we already, we already know this mindset.
Starting point is 01:41:52 Like we know how to go undercover, but my boss, Richie took it to, to another level. So he's like, um, before we went to go report in Chazz, he's like, Hey, Jorge, let's go, let's go to the liquor store. Let's buy a bunch of beers and let's buy a bunch of beers, let's get a bunch of cigarettes. And I'm like, why? He's like, we're just gonna be heading out of beers and smoking cigs with the protesters
Starting point is 01:42:11 and that's gonna bring their guard down. And I was like, at first I thought it was a funny idea, but then during our reporting, it worked out brilliantly. Like Richie's idea was genius. I mean, he would be sipping beers, ripping a cig. The thing is, Richie already has like a hippie persona, so he doesn't really have to put on an act. I'm not like a hippie type, but I got from California. I know how to be cool. I know how to be laid back. So we would be, you know, ripping cigs. If at the end of the day, Richie's my boss, so if he's telling me to rip cigs
Starting point is 01:42:42 and drink beers, I'm gonna do it. So, you know, and then people's guards would, I mean, people would really not think that we would be reporting. And anytime we would film them with our phone, no one would attack us, no one would say put the phone down. And just people just thought that we were kind of like
Starting point is 01:42:59 hippie protesters and that strategy worked all summer. It was brilliant. and it's actually funny thing it came out in the Rittenhouse trial because they act like they asked like why we had uh Richard White had beers and cigarettes and he he had he told them. He told them that story. Hey that's that's the truth man you give those people cigarettes and they'll think you they're your best friend. Oh man now I know going forward like if we're in that situation again go to liquor the liquor store, get beers, rip them, you know, drink some Slim Sum
Starting point is 01:43:27 with the protesters, and you're all good after that. Hey dude, thanks for coming on. I know you're busy, busy, busy. You the man. Thank you. Have a great workout today. I look forward to the next time you come on. The people in the audience love you.
Starting point is 01:43:43 Thanks for getting me on. The audience on the show is awesome and anytime I'm on they always support anything I got going on they always DM me to behavior you know I found you on the pod the only thing we will always ask is everyone is if you like the content just share it you know share it blast it out Instagram Instagram is whorehaventerr tv. Even on my ex twitter is Ventura report and later today I could be releasing the report on the social media of our reporting in Mexico which is really good. Obviously we're going to keep on the subject everyone on immigration cartels all types of crazy stuff. Oh, oh that's what I meant to ask you. Let
Starting point is 01:44:22 me hit you with one more question. Thank you, I'm glad you mentioned cartels. Holman said that he's gonna declare war basically on the cartels. He says he's gonna just destroy all the cartels. He called them the largest criminal organization, largest threat to the United States. They've killed 100,000 kids last year with the fentanyl they brought over the border.
Starting point is 01:44:39 Is that serious? Do you think that basically Trump's gonna strong arm Mexico and we're gonna go in there and fucking get them So this so when it comes to this subject man, um, I I don't know if if if uh, you um, you guys know, um, He was like a super he was like a former Mexican like high security did all crazy operations in law enforcement for them is um ed ed coderone high security, did all crazy operations in law enforcement for them is Ed, Ed Cotterone.
Starting point is 01:45:10 Who I think you, I think you referenced him and I had him on this show. He's been on Rogan a few times. He's been on Rogan a few times. So he came on. He was great. So from my, from my, like this was before I heard his perspective, because I do value his opinion, because he knows this pretty well. But from my perspective, when I because even before this obviously is home and announced the Republicans have always been like, we need to go in Mexico and everything, take on the cartels. From my perspective, I'm like, I don't know how it makes sense for US forces to intervene into Mexican soil. And then like take on the, I just don't, I don't see how even Mexican government would even allow us onto Mexican soil and fight cartels. And also I don't even know how that would look like.
Starting point is 01:45:53 Would that start like a mini civil war? For instance, this is just an example, a bad example, it might be a bad example. Let's just say Mexico was located in the Middle East. Let's just say the Mexican cartels were over there. It's easier to take that fight on because we don't see it. It's not next to us. It's foreign. Mexico, for another example, like there's so many, there's millions of Mexican Americans that live here. We have, it's just like a different dynamic. And it's like, I just don't, like from my perspective, I don't even see how US forces could intervene and carry out that
Starting point is 01:46:32 operation. So that was my perspective. Then I heard Ed- Hey, sorry, go ahead. Go ahead. Then I heard Ed Cotterone's perspective on it. And his kind of line up with mine where he was saying, he doesn't, it's not like he doesn't see any legal, I mean, there's just no way to carry out that operation with US forces on Mexican soil to take on the cartels. The other perspective that he added, which I thought was very fascinating, he says, okay, let's say you do declare, let's say the Sinaloa
Starting point is 01:47:05 Cartel, a foreign terrorist organization. So what that means now is if you're a Mexican in Mexico and you want to come to the US, boom, now you have basically guaranteed like legal asylee, whatever. Because now you could say, why live in Sinaloa or I live in Mexico and there's a foreign terrorist organization. And now you're gonna have this massive migration that once again, I don't know the Republican party wants. So you have to balance out of like, okay,
Starting point is 01:47:39 if we declare a foreign terrorist organization, then you're gonna basically have all these legal asylees in the US. And they're going to have that credible case of that credible threat that they are under attack in their home country. I don't know, man. I just don't see. I don't see it. Let's go extreme, Jorge.
Starting point is 01:47:59 The US brings aircraft carriers into this region and fires rockets into these countries to hit terrorist organizations. Why not pull an aircraft carrier into the Gulf of Mexico? Tell the president of Mexico, hey, you're harboring fucking the world's wealthiest terrorists. And if you don't get them out, we're going to start fucking Lobbing missiles into into your country. I mean Mexico couldn't do anything See I just I mean it's just I know it's our neighbor I know it's our neighbor but think about the hunt the fentanyl dude. It's it. I mean, you know as much as I Everyone knows I'm I am not for the stuff. I just don't I'm doing it. Everyone knows I'm not for this stuff. I just don't.
Starting point is 01:48:48 I don't know. I just don't, you know, because the thing is, the thing is with these four, these Mexican cartels, like they live among the innocent Mexicans in their communities, you know? Right. I mean, they employ them. They're heroes there, right? They pay for the schools, the soccer fields, they keep the town safe. There's no there's no crime in there. You know, the cartel keeps them safe, right? Yeah, yeah. That's their hearts and minds kind of operation. This is always just a great topic because it's like, oh man, so many centers. I do want to point out one, kind of a small
Starting point is 01:49:14 scenario, but kind of an example of US not being able to care out the mission so so so earlier this year guys we had the issue of a Of El Chapo's son Hmm kidnapping The other co-founder of the Sinaloa cartel and my oh Flacco or something like that. Yeah, no, no, it's just El Mayo. Not not the flag apart I don't know if you heard of this crazy story because I remember I was following the story for a little while and people told me that you had been compromised and they could tell by the way you were covering the story.
Starting point is 01:49:53 I was like, oh shit. They were telling me that you were bought off by the cartel. So let me, I'm dying to hear this. So basically, so what happened in this story is, it's basically El Chapo's son, I think the walls were already starting to close in on him because they already got some of his brothers, obviously they got the dad, and I think the walls started to close in on him, the US government was coming in. And I think El Chapo's son felt pressure that he needed some type of deal with the US government.
Starting point is 01:50:24 Obviously the US government wants El Mayo. He's basically the equivalent of El Chapo. So they work out some type of deal where El Chapo's son sets up a fake meeting with El Mayo. They'll then kidnap El Mayo, put him on this small plane, and then that plane's gonna cross over into American soil. Basically it landed in Santa Teresa, New Mexico, which is like right next to El Paso, Texas. So, where this plane will fly into American soil, both men will be arrested. El Chapo's son is still going to be taken into custody,
Starting point is 01:50:56 but because he brought El Mayo with him, he would get a deal. And I think what that operation showed me is that US agents couldn't get into Mexico to carry out that operation to kidnap Ochapo's son, or El Mayo. I'm not a diplomat expert here, I'm just an immigration guy. I don't know what laws or regulations, but basically I think those agents can't even step on Mexican soil. So they had to carry out, I mean, I guess this kind of secret deal where they had to make a deal with Ochapo's son. This is not for sure, but I think Ochapo's son is probably going to get some type of
Starting point is 01:51:36 deal that's favorable to him because he brought him out. And I think that operation to me was an example of that basically Mexico will never allow US authorities to carry out any type of operation on their soil even if it's taking you know taking down one of the biggest crime bosses or whatever. So I don't so I don't see how you didn't take on the Sinaloa cartel if these guys don't even let you step foot in the country. Now obviously it could be different with Trump of like you put you could threaten with tariffs and things like that.
Starting point is 01:52:04 I just like I said I know it sounds sexy for Republicans like Dan Crenshaw's always like we're gonna take on the cartels and stuff once again I just don't know how they go into you know Mexican soil and carry that out I'd be glad to be proven wrong I just don't I don't I haven't seen a path like I said after I heard Ed's take this guy's like an expert on all this stuff way smarter than me he also did not see a legal way or any type of way where Mexican government was gonna allow that to happen there was a video you posted that I remember got a ton of attention and it was I want to say it was a car running through the border does that sound familiar this is about
Starting point is 01:52:43 six months or a year ago it showed a truck truck it was like a car chase and the like, hey, this is just propaganda Jorge's putting out or so I wish I could fucking remember. And I remember thinking, oh shit, Jorge's twisted up in some crazy shit. No, no, no, I'm trying to remember. I'm not sure of a, yeah, I have to get the exact. Sean says, I think it was a movie scene. No, I would not share a movie scene, bro. I know, I think he's just fucking around. Yeah, and I get-
Starting point is 01:53:25 You talking about Sicario? Anyway, okay, that's something to watch also. Yeah. What happens with the cartels? It's gonna be fascinating. Like I said, it's just- It's, you know, if you're a person who's also just entertained by policies on the news, it's just like, you know, how could you those would not be entertained right now? I mean, we're about to have, oh, it's great. Media is losing their mind. The dynamics of immigration are about to change. At the end of the day, cartels adapt to everything. I'm curious to see if
Starting point is 01:54:02 they're just going to stop smuggling people. I mean, they're not but how they're gonna change their tactics Also, there's just like hundred thousand migrants that are in Mexico who are like regard, you know, even with Trump winning They're like we're not gonna turn back So this is probably fascinating man So, yeah, well, I'm gonna do like I said keep covering the issue and then you know when I get my next big story We'd love to come on and everything Anytime buddy. All right. Thank you for Like I said, keep covering the issue and then, uh, you know, when I get my next big story, we'd love to come on and everything. Anytime buddy. All right. Thank you. Jorge Ventura people. And thanks for the plug on the book. I'll be buying that book.
Starting point is 01:54:32 Yes. Right diet. Get it. Get it. Get it. Thanks brother. Have a good one. Thanks guys. Jorge Ventura. Yeah, it's going to be an amazing four years. 12,000 lobbyists out of jobs in DC. Man oh man. Oh, what is this? Who does who does no rep news? Trump named Seba Matosian to lead health initiative as director in CrossFit knowledge dick
Starting point is 01:55:33 Thank you. Seems appropriate. Seems very appropriate. Thank you. You guys want to see the doctor jacking off on his staff? God, there's so many fun subjects just pouring in. We could talk about the PFAA. Travis, I need a PFAG shirt. PFAG. A president of PFAG. What's it stand for? Professional Fitness Association Guild? Or what's my organization?
Starting point is 01:56:16 P. I know, what did PFAG do now? I mean, it's just crazy. I mean, it's just batshit crazy to me that the PFAAA thinks that they have any more authority than PFAAG. What does it stands for? PFAG, professional fitness athletic group? Professional fitness athletic group? PGA, professional, no it's PFAG. It's professional fitness athlete group.
Starting point is 01:57:04 Thank you. Professional fitness athlete group Group. Professional Pro Fitness Athlete Group. Like how... Yeah, I need a shirt that says that. How... I don't know how anyone takes them seriously when I have ten times more clout, influence, knowledge than all those fucking ding-dongs combined. It's just it's just bizarre to me Professional fellowship. No, not that I like gay people. I'm down. I'm down with the gays I've been here. I watch Alex Stein have Josh cedar on and he I gotta have Alex on and he said something about trans people. I was like dude who like who cares, you know There's something. Um, do you know what this is? Do you guys know what this is? It's um, I don't know why I fucking didn't know this It's this thing that trans people have let me see if I can find it in my notes
Starting point is 01:58:00 How I knew that there was something you guys are gonna be you guys are gonna just Be like sevi, how are you so stupid? It's not that I was stupid. It's just I hadn't pieced it together like coherently yet Please buy that excuse. There's this This this is why you can't have trans people reading to two kids in libraries You can't have trans people reading to kids in libraries. This is called an autogenophophilia is a paraphilia or sexual interest in the thought or image of oneself as a woman. It's a concept used to explain some cases of male to female transsexualism and can help clinicians understand their clients.
Starting point is 01:58:47 These fucking guys dress up as women because it sexually arouses them. It's not because they're confused of their identity. It's because it fucking sexually arouses them. And then you're letting them perform their sexual arousal in front of your kids? Like what the fuck is going on? The word is uh autogynephilia It's like soon as I heard that i'm like, oh yeah, no shit
Starting point is 01:59:18 As a male's propensity to be sexually aroused by the thought of himself as a female That's what those fucking dudes are doing. Who knew it was perverted? I know just bear with me here. I knew they were confused about their sexuality, but they're up there getting like there. Let's say that's only, I mean, I believe it's 99% true. I believe that. I mean, I wouldn't bet like my kid's life on it or like my car on it, but I believe it's 99% true. But even if it was 5% true? I believe that. I mean, I wouldn't bet like my kid's life on it or like my car on it, but I believe it's 99% true. But even if it was 5% true, why would you let these people
Starting point is 01:59:56 be sexually aroused? They're sexually arousing themselves in front of your kids. That's Vittorio. That's not new. if you don't know that you're a moron. Thank you. Throw me in the moron bucket. No, it's not gay at all. I wish it was gay. It's not gay. Sean Lenderman, if that isn't the daily reason you know it started is that.
Starting point is 02:00:26 Yeah, another great fucking valid point. Yeah, it all started because you get sexually aroused. I mean, that explains why men do everything. It's fucking disgusting, dude. Remember that story? Remember that story I read to you guys the other day about my my buddy who I think I told you this story. My buddy, they're about to do puberty talk at his school at his kid's school.
Starting point is 02:01:01 His kid's fucking 10 or 11 years old at and he sent me this document you're not even going to believe this you're not even going to believe this this is the follow-up to it about what they're going to teach his kids he's he's wondering if he can opt his kid out of puberty talk which has... listen to this... listen to this... I think this is California Health Youth Authority requires that any health instruction provided in grades K through 12 is inclusive of diverse gender and sexual identities. First of all that's just bat shit crazy that doesn't say anything. What do you mean inclusive? It just needs to say boy and girl, male and female. While parents and guardians have the right to opt their pupil out of all or part of
Starting point is 02:01:56 any health instruction, school districts may not facilitate the selective opt-out lessons that are focused on lesbian, gay, bisexual, transsexual, queer, plus content. So, you can opt out of all the shit? Yeah, it's total word fuckery. It's total word fuckery. And hey, I don't want to see LGBTQ ever again. It's lesbian, gay, bisexual, transsexual, queer. It's girls who eat other girls' pussies. It's guys who suck other guys' dicks. It's people who suck dick and eat pussy.
Starting point is 02:02:37 It's people who cross-dress to be the opposite sex and eat ass. And then there's this one queer. I don't know what that one is. And then there's plus. And that plus to me is pedophiles it's just anything else that's it I'm never I'm never gonna read the letters again fuck the letters I'm just gonna read the whole thing pussy pussy on pussy eaters dick on dick eaters being able to eat dick and eat pussy dressing up as the as the opposite sex and then a pedophiles dressing up as the, as the opposite sex,
Starting point is 02:03:06 and then, uh, pedophiles. That's what the plus is. The plus is pedophiles. It's a mouthful, Sevan. I know. But all these acronyms and all this bullshit, it's, your K through 12, uh, health instruction needs to be inclusive of diverse gender and sexualities. Fuck you for saying nothing to me and trying to manipulate me into fucking having my kids do some weird shit. Just show me what, hey how about you just send over the fucking packet of papers and I fucking look at what you're gonna fucking teach my kid you fucking cunts. Puberty talk, how about fuck you. Hey why do you wear wishments? It's getting cold I'm just stay warm great question. I thought you'd know that by now
Starting point is 02:03:51 Disappoints me Pat. I thought you had that deep knowledge of the show Crazy crazy town banana pants. It's not the first time you let me down. But Daniel Brian Brandon trying to get on the PFAA. What do you mean? Like fuck Fikowski. She's trying to fuck Fikowski. Let me get on the PFA.
Starting point is 02:04:21 Oh, can we watch the doctor jerk off? Sure. Hey, that my mom, I'm sorry. What do you mean, like fuck Fikowski? Just trying to fuck Fikowski? Let me get on the PFA. Oh, can we watch the doctor jerk off? Sure. Hey, my buddy told me... Oh, I don't know if I should say this. I don't think he listens to the show. Can you imagine letting your kid go to something like that in the fucking third or fourth grade? I should check in with my wife. I don't know what's going on today.
Starting point is 02:04:57 What's today? Thursday? Dude, I have another show tonight with Marcus Capone. That one's going gonna be good too. Okay, uh, I don't feel like working anymore. I just feel like hanging out with you guys. I'm fucking kind of over the show. Tired of fucking dancing up here. Northeast Arkansas doctor license has been suspended after allegations he performed a sex act with a staff member as other staff watched. Why is it always guys? Periguld and Bono, according to his website. The medical board says it received a complaint on July 17th
Starting point is 02:05:46 that Duffini engaged in sexual contact with a staff who are also his patients and sexually harassed those staff members. The complaint was accompanied by a video from a security camera inside the clinic that allegedly showed Dr. Duffini performing a sexual act with a staff member while other staff members were present
Starting point is 02:06:06 and watching. The video also shows Defini walking through the clinic naked, the record states. You guys are not going to believe the video I'm about to show you. You are not going to. You are not going to believe. Hey, Jesus, Tank, are you? Tank, do you know when you write stuff like that everyone just thinks you're crazy
Starting point is 02:06:33 like it's so passive aggressive dude just just just write in the comments my name is tank Reeves I am a fucking anti-semite and hate fucking kikes I wish all Jews burned in hell I can't and I don't acknowledge Israel as a country Just write it out dude and don't make us read through all the shit Well, I'm surprised you like gates yeah gates is hardcore Don't make us read into shit. Plus, we're jacking off in public right now. Men.
Starting point is 02:07:07 God damn men. Do you guys want to see this video? You're not even going to... You're going to have so many questions. This doesn't even... This doesn't even make sense. You know, the takeaway from this is that this office is really diverse. Because there's men and women and there's black people and there's white people.
Starting point is 02:07:15 That was my takeaway. I'm going to be talking about this in the next video. I'm going to be talking about this in the next video. I'm going to be talking about this in the next video. I'm going to be talking about this in the next video. I'm going to be talking about this in the next video. I'm going to be talking about this in the next video. I'm going to be talking about this in the next video.
Starting point is 02:07:23 I'm going to be talking about this in the next video. I'm going to be talking about this in the next video. I'm going to be talking about this in the next video. I'm going to be talking about this in the next video. I'm going to be talking about this in the next video. I'm takeaway from this is that this office is really diverse. Because there's men and women and there's black people and there's white people. That was my takeaway. Imagine being a libtard. This is a man with a baseball cap. Looks like he's masturbating. In a doctor's like you know you know like when you go to a doctor and they have that window and there's those people who sit
Starting point is 02:07:51 behind it with the reception desk right it looks like he's masturbating on I can't tell for sure because I can't see his penis, but it looks like he's masturbating on one of his workers Now look those women just walked in This black woman and this white woman just walked in and they're wearing like the doctor's gear and shit I'm on a white shirt. That's not bad. You're such an ass. It looks like boogers. Boogers? She goes, it looks like boogers.
Starting point is 02:08:34 And then the black wit lady throws her a napkin. Is it in your bra? It looks like he's a little dehydrated. It looks like he's a little dehydrated. It looks like he's a little dehydrated. I'm a brawl. Why'd you pull her away? There you go. Drop it off your brawl.
Starting point is 02:08:57 You don't have to help her out with that. You can have strength. Oh, stick together. He said something like, the doctor said something to her like you guys are actually gonna help her with that or something and the black lady says you damn straight us hoes stick together I got the bra in the floor of my car. You want it? Henry gave it to me. I want it back. I ain't over it. You want the bra in my car? I don't even know it.
Starting point is 02:09:33 Yeah, Heidi's right. I saw something that Heidi wrote. I didn't look closely at it, but Heidi's right. He must be giving them drugs. There must be something going on there. It's a sperm bank. God, that would be amazing if it was. This dude's got to be having a breakdown. Dude, what if you're fucking the husband of one of those women? I know that's the thing. Like, if you can think of it, it's happening. Who would have ever thought that a doctor jerks off in a reception office and the other ladies Just walk around and work like it's nothing happening How did you get to that level of comfortability
Starting point is 02:10:15 When did it cross the line Like when did it crack like if you'd been like, excuse me Janet. Can you come to the bathroom? I want to jack off on you everyone be like, alright your turn Janet going there The doctor wants to jack off on you. How did it like, all right, your turn, Janet, go in there, the doctor wants to jack off on you. How did it cross that line to where he just does it in front of all the staff? You know those things that you do with your wife where you cross the line, like all of a sudden one day,
Starting point is 02:10:39 like you're dating a girl and the next day, they reach the point where you shit with the door open or you pick your nose in front of them or you know, you use their toothbrush. But but but where does it come? It never reaches the point where you're like jerking off in the front yard with your wife. I mean, I don't think so. How did it get to this? How did it get to this? I
Starting point is 02:11:34 Under I understand I understand I totally understand tank you draw the line. I totally get it. I totally get it if if if Someone let's say I don't know if you're married or not. Let's say someone killed your girlfriend and they ran into And they ran into a crowd and they started killing people in the crowd. You would just sit there and chill and not do anything because you had a gun because you'd be afraid you'd hit someone in the crowd. And then at the second time it happened, you'd still let it happen. And after you've had 20 girlfriends killed, you still would sit there and not shoot the guys he ran into the crowd I get it. That's where you draw the line. I get it
Starting point is 02:12:07 There's another group of people that after their 20th girlfriend has been killed by the same guy when he runs away And there's only four people in the fucking crowd They realize well I'm gonna have to take the risk and shoot this guy because because the he's already killed 20 people and 16 of those deaths are on me because I could have killed this guy and the four innocent people Instead of letting him come back and kill more people. I get it. It's fucking math. I get it I totally get it and then you've got it conflated with all these other social things But at the end of the day it comes to math and you you you're defund the police guy. You're like who?
Starting point is 02:12:41 Two police were bad the black guys So that's defund the police and then a thousand black guys die when only two should have died But but you stood on on what's right and logical. Well, I get it. I get I totally understand your point You totally I told you totally I appreciate your conviction. I Appreciate your conviction. But when but the way you couch it is is that you hate Jews Because you lumped you lumped because at the end of the day that's how you you're categorizing people by their ethnicity Constantly and you use these words like Zionist and you're just lost in the fucking matrix. I get it, dude. I I I fully understand your your mathematician. I
Starting point is 02:13:24 Get it I fully understand you're a mathematician. I get it. I get it. It's okay. Okay, where were we? Oh, yeah. How do you get to the point where you... Oh, opioids. Opioids. Opioids in a small southern town. Wow. Paging Dr. Jackoff. Paging Dr. Jackoff. Has to be more to this story. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:52 You have Jewish friends. Yeah. Okay. Good. Thank you. Like even here you're wording, dude, they're not indiscriminately killing civilians. Hold on. Before I argue that, let me look up indiscriminately. Indiscriminately.
Starting point is 02:14:12 In a random manner. No, they're not indiscriminately killing civilians. I don't believe so. Maybe you know something I don't know, but I think that they're trying to kill the bad guys and some good guys in the crowd are getting smoked. I get it Oh, you can call in any time here you can call in any time you want Or maybe you did call someone called Let me reconnect this thing. I'd also like to hear your insights, Tank, on how it got to where the doctor thought he could jack off on the staff in the reception area. All right. Alright. Alright. I don't know what to do now. Show is over.
Starting point is 02:15:14 I'm gonna wait till Tant calls and then make the show be over. My mind is blown by that video. Yeah. You think I'm gonna get a strike for that video? I hope not. I really hope not Mr. Oh, so mr. Reeves. Hello I'm all ears There he is. How you doing good? How are you brother? I'm not too bad. I'm not too bad.
Starting point is 02:15:47 Tell me about your hatred of the Jews. That's not true at all. Okay. That's not true at all. You get, you get, you're conflating right now. Okay. Unconflate me. I love being unconflated. Well, what do you want to know? Like, what do you want to know? I mean, I don't understand how you don't see the indiscriminate bombing. I mean, at the beginning of this whole thing, they said there was 2,000 Hamas, 1,000 Palestinians.
Starting point is 02:16:16 At the beginning they said what? At the beginning they said there were only 2,000 Hamas people and now they're claiming they've killed 20,000. Where did they get those other 18,000? No, 60,000. They've literally had the Palestinian people running from one side of Gaza to another and bombing the sides that they run to. And I know you're going to say, why doesn't anybody else want them?
Starting point is 02:16:42 But every single border is blockaded by the IDF. Where do they go? That's all I'm saying now. Where do they go? So you're saying that to me and then I'll be... You're saying that there's two million people there how many people live in Gaza two million? About that. Pardon me? Yeah about that yeah Okay, so there's two million in Gaza and you say 60,000 have been killed. And that's being lied to. That's from HaHaRats. So that's the publication from Israel, Avitalaviv. So it's probably a lot more than that.
Starting point is 02:17:21 And what do you suggest the solution is? Two states. Hasn't it been like that? Well, no, it's not. It's an open-air prison, then. I mean, I literally have my best friend's wife is Palestinian. She moved here about 10 years ago. And, you know, if you sat down
Starting point is 02:17:47 with her for 10 minutes, you'd see that this has been a ongoing onslaught for 30, 40, 50 years. This isn't anything new. And it's got nothing to do with the Jews. It's got everything to do with the current Netanyahu regime and the Israeli expansionism that they want to create. Yeah. The one that Trump heavily supports. Yeah, I think that they should push all those people out and take that land. Sorry, say that again? I think they should push all of those people out and take that land. Why? Why is that? Why do you feel that way? Because I think that enough is enough. The violence there, the back and forth, enough is enough.
Starting point is 02:18:31 Let me tell you, let me tell you, I think it's a net win for everyone, but let me share this with you. I have a friend also who goes back and forth from the United States to Palestine. They are very wealthy. They're Palestinians here. They own six businesses in my town. And he's, prior to this shit going down, he was building basically a fucking compound there.
Starting point is 02:18:57 And so when I hear it's called an open air prison, but he goes back twice a year and he, you know, and he brings his, he's, you know, he has all his family work at all of his businesses. And he's brought all of these people here one by one, the same way my relatives did. And yet he's sending money back to build a compound there. That's, I know, I know it's possible. And then when I see the things- Are you talking, are you talking Gaza or the West Bank because there's two parts of Palestine That's the West Bank is go ahead Like it's it's totally different when you say to push to push these people out
Starting point is 02:19:33 And I mean that's that's essentially so okay. I think they should Land I think they should steal the land commandeer the land I don't think once you attack Israel the way you did, you can stay there. I think like, and once you have facts like 86% of the people there want Israel to die, all Jews to die, or when you ask people, here's the question, let me ask you this real quick, Tank. Where are you getting these polls though? Where are you getting these polls? Like where is this coming from? Where's this information coming from? I'm not trying to be that, that, that like libtard that's saying oh, where's your facts?
Starting point is 02:20:05 But like I I don't believe that one bit and that's you know You don't believe what is in Ukraine just high tail it Why doesn't Ukraine just high tail it out out to Poland and fuck off and let the Russians have the land It's a little bit of a different scenario there Okay, why is that? They're both getting forced out of their land and... You have this ongoing conflict with this tiny piece of land. I pulled up the map, that's Gaza, right?
Starting point is 02:20:37 With this tiny piece of land. Yeah. And by the way, you might be right. I need to ask him about where he's building that. I don't know if it was the West Bank or Gaza. I assumed it was Gaza, and I don't know, and I apologize for that. But you have this tiny piece of land here, this Gaza strip, with a questionable history, and it's surrounded by this tiny little country, Israel, and then all around it you have people
Starting point is 02:21:03 who are better assimilated to the lifestyle and culture of those people that are in Gaza. And yet this strip of Gaza has been used as a launching ground to fight this country of Israel for what did you say, 50 years, 60 years? It's a lot longer than that, but I mean we could really reach into the weeds, but the thing is, Savon, there's no way for them to leave. They're not even letting humanitarian trucks in, man.
Starting point is 02:21:30 Let me throw this out there, too. If the people of Jordan put their guns down and Egypt put their guns down and Lebanon put their guns down and Syria put their guns down, do you think Israel would march into those countries and take their land? They're marching into Lebanon. They've been in Syria. They're in Libya. They're constantly bombing Damascus on a daily basis. I don't know what you're asking. I'm basically making the point of the inversion. If the Israelis let their guard down for a second, there is a cohort of people there that's very large that wants to fucking remove is it wants to kill everyone in Israel the country of Iran it's part of their charter
Starting point is 02:22:10 Hamas it's part of their charter His bowl it's part of their charter to fucking eliminate the Jews in Israel And so when you say a two-state solution, I'm just like what are are you talking about? These people, they don't want a two-state solution. They want to kill fucking the Jews. No, they've wanted a two-state solution a lot. And they've even, they've even, it's this whole ceasefire thing has been a joke too. Netanyahu wants nothing to do with any ceasefire. He wants Israel expansion.
Starting point is 02:22:42 And since when are we okay with expansionism? I mean, we could go back to World War II and what Hitler did, because it's pretty damn close. I think that the I think if you want, what would you like to see at the end? Would you like to see peace or would you like to see what's done right? Or would you like both? I'd like peace today right now. There's no diplomatic there's no diplomatic talks. It's the same as in Russia and Ukraine There's nobody talking diplomacy. Nobody wants to sit down at the table and negotiate every every article we read about
Starting point is 02:23:16 Negotiations is absolute bullshit. They've never sat down at the table. They just killed Yaya Sinwar I mean they have nobody to sit down with They're doing the same to your country, Lebanon, right now. They're bombing the shit out of Beirut. Which has always been a stronghold for Hezbollah, which is a terrorist arm of the Iranian government. Would you agree with that? That I would agree, yeah. But I would also say that, you you know like you take ISIS for example
Starting point is 02:23:45 How much is how much is being funded by the CIA? That I would have has a lot that I don't know we know for a fact We know for a fact that Hamas was funded by Netanyahu himself. It's in Ha ha rats. Oh I'm sure that there's money. Yeah, I'm sure that there's been psy ops and funding's going, tons of stuff like that. I mean, clearly they had they have there's a ton of funding if they had people on the inside close enough to do the cell phone debacle. Yeah, yeah, I mean, that's that was that was insane. I mean, the fact that they're they're able to do something like that. I
Starting point is 02:24:20 mean, the article that came out after that was that it took 15 years to create that, that whole that it took 15 years to create that whole cell phone thing. 15 years. So does that not put any adage on the fact that October 7th may have been part of that process? I mean, they needed a springboard for this all to start, right? They're looking for a war with Iran. That's the goal. Oh, you mean to attack their new? Why would they want to do that to attack their nuclear facilities? They want full control over the Middle East. It's not just Israel. It's obviously the US. But if you look at any of these UN, when you say control the Middle East, you mean they want their oil? Everyone wants their oil?
Starting point is 02:25:00 Is that what you mean? I don't know if it's oil. I don't know what it is, Savan. I mean, I'm not, I'm just, I mean, it's not the people. No one wants to land or the people. It's gotta be something. If you're going to say they want control of the middle east, they must want something either removal of nuclear weapons or gas. Yeah. I mean, it's, you know, if you look at Hawkins razor, obviously the easiest option there
Starting point is 02:25:24 would be the oil. It would be controlling the oil. They know that with bricks, bricks starting to really take off. Iran is part of that now and Saudi Arabia, it's dangerous for... There's obviously a massive decoupling right now and a multipolar world being built, right? I mean, it's this unipolar hegemony that the U.S. has had. It's being shattered and it started with Ukraine. Hey, do you have kids? I have three kids.
Starting point is 02:26:01 If you lived in Gaza with your family, what would you do? Oh. If you lived in Gaza with your family, what would you do? Well, considering there's no way to get out, I would fight. They're starving, Savan. I mean, we're talking about people that are starving to death. What are they supposed to do? I just don't understand why people can't see that. And it's got nothing to do with the Netanyahu regime wanting to be about the Jews. It's not about the Jews at all. It's about this regime that's in there right now that wants nothing more than destruction. Well, let me say this just to be clear. You believe that October 7th was a Psyop, correct?
Starting point is 02:26:57 I don't think it was a Psyop. It definitely happened. But I think there was collateral. Do you think it was organized by the Israeli government or the Mossad in order to start a war? Or at least if maybe you don't believe that you think that there's evidence that makes that as something that is very very possible. I mean we'll find out and then Yahoo's up for trial in December. They're talking about pushing the date off but he's up for trial in December and a lot the So, yeah, I mean, I think it was partly a massage op. I don't know because there's, I will say one thing about the IDF and the massage is they're very good at what they do.
Starting point is 02:27:55 They're very good at keeping things hidden. Just like the CIA. All right. Thank you. Fair. All right. I have, so, Savon, I have hope for Trump, okay, too. Like, I'm not, I'm definitely not like, I'll never, I never take sides when it comes to politics, because they're, they're all in it for themselves. They're all being paid by massive lobby groups. I
Starting point is 02:28:20 mean, Trump, the obviously, Adelson being the number one at a hundred million dollars, you know that that's scary because I just don't want you know your kids to have to go fight in the war that really is not going to benefit the US at all. Miriam Adelson gives a hundred million to Trump campaign making good on reported pledge gift from pro-lific pro-israel donors the largest amongst new batch of major spending disclosures Eclipse of 75 million that Elon Musk recently gave Mary Maddelson has delivered on a pledge She reportedly made the start of the general elections donating 100 million to the campaign committee supporting the candidacy of Donald Trump the money
Starting point is 02:28:59 Was distributed to Edelson's super PAC preserve America which she had seeded earlier this year with 55 million and a series of installments, 25 million a month in July. Hey, how did she make her money? Do you know? I have no idea. I mean, probably through probably Sheldon Edelson, I think was her husband who made a ton of money. I don't know, man.
Starting point is 02:29:22 I don't know. I don't go too far into the weeds on that stuff I just listen to this listen. I just know that she's worth 35 billion I Believe it. Yeah Yeah, Wow But I do think there's some good things to come out of the Trump election or nomination, whatever you want to call it, and being the president, whatever for whatever that's worth.
Starting point is 02:29:53 I do think there's some some good things for the US immediately. But for him only having four years, he's not going to be able to get a lot done. You think Vance will be president after him? No. No, I don't. You think you and I will, I think it'll flip back to the Dems man, unfortunately, because I think a lot of things optically that Trump wants to do is going to be, I'm, I'm, I'm all for,
Starting point is 02:30:23 um, deportation, but I think it's going to look very bad optically. And I think the media will run with that. So, uh, you think you and I will still talk in four years? Oh, hell yeah, man. So when I like you, man, I really do. I'm not trying to get like, I I'm just I'm just trying to put some nuance around what's going on over there in the middle east I I still watch you religiously dude
Starting point is 02:30:51 like I'm not I wasn't suggesting that uh for I wasn't suggesting because we would have a falling out or not I was just suggesting that in the sense that like I think Vance will be president. So it'll be cool in four years to talk, to stay in contact and like, and, and seeing how it plays out. Hey, I will say this, we both agree that it sucks that, it sucks to see people killed by the war machine. I true, like, you know, if I was there, I'm sure I couldn't stomach it. I watched a documentary yesterday about soldiers
Starting point is 02:31:23 who were injured and I cried like 20 times. So I'm not by no means do I need to present like a tough guy and think that I could stomach any of the killing and the hurting of children and all the starvation. And so I, I, I'm not like, I don't think like you're barking up some sort of tree where it's like, Jesus Christ tank, just let them fucking kill those bastards. Like you're, you're fighting the good fight. Obviously, you obviously care about fucking human here. So it's, uh, it's, um, yeah, it's a rough way up here. All right, brother. Thanks for calling. I appreciate you.
Starting point is 02:31:50 Take care of yourself. All right. Bye. Bye guys. There we go. Making friends every day. I, um, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I. Sure. Bye. Bye, guys. There we go. Making friends every day. I DM with Pat a lot. I don't think the kind of DMing we do, a lot of people get stomach. We fight and make up and fight and make up and fight and make up.
Starting point is 02:32:24 It gets intense. But I do enjoy them or else I like, there's some people that are just assholes to me in the DMs and I just don't open them. It's not like that with Tank. All right. Okay, we saw the doctor. Yeah, feel free.
Starting point is 02:32:46 Let's process the, let's process the Dr. Jackie off in the office and come back to that. I think I don't usually, I need to talk to my wife about that. Like maybe I need to send her that and ask her what the fuck's going on. I signed up for an 11 a.m. class
Starting point is 02:33:01 and I'll be available to take the kids to their afternoon activities. Oh, sweet, a.m. class and I'll be available to take the kids to their afternoon activities. Oh sweet. Okay sweet, I Sign my kids up for a jujitsu tournament and They put the kids in the same fucking on the same side of the bracket I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not taking my kids to a fucking jujitsu tournament where they're gonna be on the same side of the bracket There's no fucking way. I'm not taking them kids to a fucking jiu-jitsu tournament where they're gonna be on the same side of the bracket.
Starting point is 02:33:27 There's no fucking way. I'm not taking them somewhere to fight each other. Unless they both make it to the finals, which they will. I'm not fucking putting them on the same side of the bracket. That's fucking insane. I'm gonna... I'm actually going to... I'm gonna email them now. BJJ, thank you for registering. What's the date on this? No. Shit, how do I find the, how do I find tournament registration?
Starting point is 02:34:02 I'll just type in the word reg and see if it pops up. Right? I'm not being unrealistic, right? You can't have the you can't. Oh, oh, oh, my name is Haley Matosi and my son's Joseph and Arya compete on Saturday in Pee Wee 2, Grey Bat Lady. If you could please just move to other sides of the bracket. Oh, we are going to take care of this. Oh, thank you so much. Oh, sweet. They're going to take care of it. Oh, that's cool.
Starting point is 02:34:30 All right. Shit, my wife already did it 12 minutes ago. She's a bad bitch, my wife. She gets on that shit. Yesterday, last night, I sat in my chair and I was, you know, in the living room, like an old man. And I'm like looking, going through my notes for the Jorge Ventura interview and she's like did you mean it did you did you did you mean it when I tank did you mean it when
Starting point is 02:34:54 did you mean it when you oh yeah yeah the lioness thing did you mean it when you said I would thank you Kyle I was totally lost for a second did you mean it when you said that well I don't even remember what the fuck I said But it had something to do with that Ezekiel thing Oh I was like yeah, what would mean did I mean it? Fuck told her shut up and bring his steak. Oh What if they reach the final I'll let them fight I would prefer they wouldn't Told her to shut up and bring you a steak.
Starting point is 02:35:25 What if they reach the final? I'll let them fight. I would prefer they wouldn't. It's happened a couple times now in tournaments. So they do Gi first. In Gi I would prefer they didn't fight. And then in no Gi I would let them fight because I don't want them to tire themselves Plus I don't want other people to see watch them fight
Starting point is 02:35:49 Yeah, I don't know you got to let him go I don't know I don't know I Got a pee Have so much fun so many fun things I want to show you guys But I have to pee really bad and I feel like I should take my nose. I got some crazy shit in there Hard work for be You guys saw Kamala spent 10 Mill she paid Beyonce 10 million dollars to speak for four minutes four minutes
Starting point is 02:36:21 Four minutes. Four minutes. Here, let me play this. This is good. We deserve this. This is good. I know you guys like this guy. Okay. Uh, here we go. If you're Muslim and you die for your faith, which is the highest honor, in paradise you're rewarded with 72 virgins.
Starting point is 02:36:49 I'd be like the only guy in Muslim heaven that's like, excuse me, can I trade my 72 virgins for two whores? Initially I was very excited about the 72 virgins. Just on pure volume. Have you ever seen 72? That's a lot of gal. But I've been talking to some of these women and I don't think it's going to work out. These virgins.
Starting point is 02:37:21 It's like a Taylor Swift concert back here. I can't work with this. These virgins don't know their way around a cock. I think 72 just for two is a good trade. You must have two whores back there, Allah. Why is Allah so generous with his virgins? So stingy with the whores? Give me one of those skanky Muslim gals that showed her hair in the courtyard. Give me one of those gals.
Starting point is 02:37:56 One of those gals with all the rock bruises on her. honor. I learned that if you're Muslim and you die for your... What a great line at the end, right? Nothing hard hitting, just a subtle just ass pounding of how ridiculous it is. Right, you know what? I had the... Sarah Cox's bodyguard trains with the Rotola brothers and their agent, and he's all dialed in. And he gave me their... He connected me to their agent. And I tried to get them what was that guy's name fuck shit I gotta call Paul really quick let me see if I
Starting point is 02:39:00 can Paul I have him in here it It literally says Paul, Sarah Cox, his bodyguard. Hey, dude. What about a hey, do you remember when you hooked me up with the Rotola Brothers agent? Yeah, Sean Ward. Oh, I'll be with him this afternoon. Okay, hey, I'm gonna text him again today. Okay. Okay, so I'm gonna text him now with you on that text thread and just be like, hey, just checking in.
Starting point is 02:39:35 Okay, done. Hey. And I'll see him in like two hours. Okay. To make sure. And I'll even take him, if I can't get the Rotola Brothers, I'll even take him. I'd love to talk to him too. I can make the bros. I'll be with their dad. I'll be get the Rotola brothers, I'll even take him. I'd love to talk to him too. I can make the pros out.
Starting point is 02:39:46 I'll be with their dad. I'll be with the whole crew. Oh my God, dude. I'd love to have their dad on the podcast. That would be insane. Shoot the text. I'll follow it all up. I'll contact you today too.
Starting point is 02:39:55 Okay. Thanks dude. Better homes. Bye. There you go. Sean Ward. Let me see. Do I have Jesus Christ, I don't have his
Starting point is 02:40:12 Maybe I'm spelling his name wrong You think it's SH I can't find it. God damn it. Damn, damn, damn. How would I search that? I was looking at my contacts. I'll type in Paul. And then go to see see all messages Damn Damn.
Starting point is 02:41:25 I can't find the fucking thread. Sean. God, the search on fucking text is ass. Sean. 924. Sean, son of a bitch. I can't forget this. 924 Son of a bitch I can't forget this I cannot I cannot forget this I Would really like to have the Rotola brothers on Or their dad oh
Starting point is 02:42:30 Is that it? Nope that was Sean Rockett son of a bitch. I have to drop a deuce. I could play a commercial and try to drop a deuce. It's weird. It's weird to have to drop a deuce during a show. Hmm. Damn it, damn it, damn it. All right, a two minute poop that's risky. No, I'm already prairie dogging. A doctor put her finger in my ass this morning. It's not fun as clock says is a doctor put oh her you had a her doctor do it. Wow.
Starting point is 02:43:45 a her doctor do it wow uh that's kind of crazy oh shit this is crazy oh shit i haven't vetted this i don't know what how this is gonna turn out, but let me read this And this week's going through an advice column My daughter's NYC public school teacher supports Trump She can think whatever she wants, but she can't force those beliefs on my kids Hey, can you tell me can you tell me like what Republicans believe? Like I know liberals believe shit. I can't think of stuff that Republicans believe.
Starting point is 02:44:34 Republicans know stuff. You know what I mean? Like, like, there's no, there's no republic, at least, at least I don't know any, there's no Republican who's like, yeah, that baby's growing in your body. You know what I mean? But there's no Democrats who are like, yeah, I killed a baby. Like, they believe, oh, there you go, there's one, they believe in God. Good, solid. Yeah. Believe. You don't have to believe that, you don't have to believe that when people cross the border illegally, that they've done something illegal.
Starting point is 02:45:28 I mean, you have to, you have to suspend, you know, you have to believe in the, to believe in the law that says it's illegal. You have to believe in the Constitution, some deep premises. I guess down there somewhere there is some belief, some foundational belief of some mechanism that we're all building off of, a platform, a foundation of belief to try to organize the chaos that is our humanity. You believe that we have unalienable rights, you believe that we have freedom of speech, and then from there, within that construct, there's just stuff we know. But now that I think about that, I wish the Dems would just say it,
Starting point is 02:46:04 like, hey, we don't believe in freedom of speech. We want to change that. I wish they would just say that instead of saying dumb shit like we have to stop hate speech and it's like out here in the fucking ether. Why not just change, like go down to the fucking root of where we all are, have built this imaginary world on top of. Just be like, no, I don't think... And then you know what we could do? We could be like, dude, we have a spot for you. Russia, China. Dude, you want to do that experiment on civilization? Dude, you're so lucky we have China.
Starting point is 02:46:43 Do you think capitalism is real though? Do you think that the, I think that there, believe it or not, I think that there's solid argument that capitalism is very close to real. Bringing things to market in order to get other things. You know what I mean? So like you live in a cave and you bring to market warmth and food and so you get pussy. You know what I mean? Capitalism is an idea.
Starting point is 02:47:13 It's an idea that you can, I mean, I'm not saying it's real like as in like this thing is real, but you can see the profound effects that it has when you practice it immediately. Crazy profound effects. I'd say capitalism is more real than racism. Racism is just complete. The fact that anyone still believes that there's racism to me is fucking mind-boggling. And I know all the people, 99% of the people who believe in it can't even fucking define it and that's why they think it's real. Now don't get me wrong, I could write a racist policy down on a piece of paper and that piece of paper with the racist policy is there.
Starting point is 02:47:55 It's there, you know what I mean? You could put racist policies into action. But to say, like, even if someone were to claim that they fucking hated black people and wore a fucking hood and a swastika and they killed a thousand Jews and had 400 slaves, it's still not real. It's still fucking completely fucking made up and someone's operating on some made up fucking bullshit. That's why you can't be charged with calling someone racist, lying about their racism. But you can be charged if you call someone a rapist. If you call someone of being a rapist, I think that you can get defamation and all sorts of weird shit around it.
Starting point is 02:48:53 Capitalism is broken now, just like the American manufacturing after NAFTA. I mean, in my in my the thing with capitalism is I think that everywhere, even in communist, like it's always operating. I think it's like how we operate as humans, as men. That's just how we operate. It's just our natural state We're just constantly Bringing things to market in order to get new things like so even within I know I know you're talking as a as a as a structure For civilization, but I I think capitalism is really really deep rooted in the human
Starting point is 02:49:22 Psychology, I think it's fucking more relevant than Freud. And if you want to hear about that shit, read that, listen to that book or read that book that Greg was suggesting. What's it called? It's basically all artistry. Everything comes from just that mindset we have as humans, especially as men. I don't know. I can't speak on behalf of women. What is it? Wealth and this book I'm listening to. How do I get to my books? Oh, Wealth and Poverty. Wealth and Poverty by George Gilder. I don't think Tank was saying that capitalism doesn't give back. Did he say that somewhere? No, in capitalism, where there's true capitalism, there's the most generosity by far. It's crazy generosity.
Starting point is 02:50:29 It's only when you put it's the lack of generosity, you can see it in all the countries where they fucking put a pinch on resources and try to control the people. You trust the people and the people become trustworthy. Okay, here we go back to this. This is fucking unprecedented a teacher that actually likes Trump. I'm struggling with how to respond to a recent incident in my daughter's New York City public school. When I came home from work on Wednesday, the day after the election, she rushed me at the door to tell me about what happened at school that day, not a typical teenage behavior.
Starting point is 02:51:05 English teacher made all the students in the class watch Trump's acceptance speech and take notes on his values and ask them to pay particular attention to how positive the crowd responded during the speech. God, that happened like in one school. That's crazy. Although the teacher didn't say anything directly how she voted, my daughter says she knows Trump's supporter, she's a known Trump supporter at the school, so I can only assume her intention was to some way promote his ideas. When my daughter and many of the other students voiced their objections and said they had found the exercise upsetting, upsetting, and the teacher said it was her lesson and she would teach the class the way she wanted they had to do the assignment One brave student got up and left the room
Starting point is 02:51:52 I'm torn about whether I should bring this up with the school our daughter just started Started there this fall and so far. We've only had a positive experience Wow imagine experience. Wow, imagine... This person writes, I don't like Trump and didn't vote for him, but watching a president-elect's acceptance speech and taking notes on it is pretty par for the course. Some guy wrote, oh now you're worried about what's forced on children and how ironic. Yeah, that's good. Let me see the replies on this. Oh my goodness. Dude, I know dozens of teachers in my state that are Trumpers.
Starting point is 02:53:14 It's not a rare thing. Listen, you don't even know a dozen teachers. Pipe down. You don't even know one teacher, in your state go mow a lawn or something for fuck's sake dozen teachers listen tanky era Pat isn't it like 87% of all fucking educators or libtards you settle down over there You settle down over there. This is the kind of stuff, this is the kind of stuff that's just un-fucking-believable
Starting point is 02:53:55 to me. Everyone's running away from Harris and why wouldn't they? She burned them for a billion bucks and wasn't even close. Her campaign looks like one big fat money laundering operation. She was shaking down billionaires to pay millionaires. Just weeks before Kamala did an interview with Al Sharpton, the Harris campaign donated half a million dollars to Reverend's nonprofit.
Starting point is 02:54:16 That's according to the Free Beacon. Why is Kamala's presidential campaign funneling 500 grand to the National Action Network right before an interview with Al? Why is a political campaign bribing Al Sharpton with charitable donations? Do you know what Al Sharpton does with money from his nonprofit?
Starting point is 02:54:31 The Rev in one year spent a million dollars on private jets and limos. It's a slush fund for the Reverend and his crew. You donated money to the Democratic Party so that they could pay half of Reverend Al Sharpton's $1 million private jet and limo fees. Do you know how hard it is to spend a million dollars on private jets? I'm going to tell you something.
Starting point is 02:54:56 You can get a really nice private jet, really nice, in the air for $3,000 an hour. Okay? So let's figure that out. You can get a really nice private jet in the air for $3,000. So you take one... Oh shit, where's my calculator? You take one million... Oh, that's ten thousand, that's a hundred thousand. That's million and and divide it by three thousand That's three hundred and thirty three hours In the air on an amazing fucking really nice private jet like really nice like a fucking You know 11 cedar 15 cedar Just think about that. That's that's basically he's in the air every day on a private jet that's for three hours a day. That's 150 flights back and forth across the United States and you donated money to the Kamala Harris campaign so fucking Reverend Al Sharpton?
Starting point is 02:56:14 She paid a million dollars to fucking Oprah, 10 million to Beyonce for four minutes. She paid a million dollars for Beyonce to interview, to Oprah to interview her. Like aren't these like just massive red flags? It's crazy. Oh, why do you keep playing Jesse Waters? I love Jesse Waters. He's dope. He's cool. He's cool.
Starting point is 02:56:40 That's my boy. Jesse, Big Jess. Big Jesse. That's my boy Jesse big Jess big Jesse All right, we played the Oh, did I show you guys this this is crazy This is fucking nuts This shit really bothers me Sunday with Grandpa, it's Trump with his granddaughter Okay, that's cool. She's cool
Starting point is 02:57:24 There she is coupled Trump and adopted uncle Elon. Okay, cool. All right. This is fucking nuts. Is that really our president? You cannot let a 15 year old girl swing a stick this close to the president of the United States. Are you out of your fucking mind? How is this possible? No, no, no, look at that. No. No. Do not let someone swing a stick by like,
Starting point is 02:58:03 You do not let someone swing a stick by like... Just fucking idiocy. Listen, one time... listen, listen, Vittorio. One slip of that club and the whole fucking free world's gone. You kidding me? Sebi, my mom wants to know if you're coming for Thanksgiving. Yeah, I am. Tell her I'm coming. Send me the address. Bring my family.
Starting point is 02:58:39 This is crazy. Fucking nuts nuts dude. And Elon's kid better have a wiffle ball. No little kid should be able to have a projectile like that near the president. Hey is that bad that all the grass is torn out there? Does that mean she sucks? Wait are those even real balls? Those look like wiffle balls. Is that bad when the grass is torn up? Does that mean you're a nasty culprit?
Starting point is 02:59:16 I mean, she looks like she knows what she's doing to me. Oh, what do I know? Who stacks the balls like that? Does a machine do that? Who stacked all those balls like that Is that how the rich do it? Anyway No, that means she's good oh it does okay
Starting point is 02:59:42 No, that means she's good. Oh, it does? Okay. Dude got shot in the head but said he's afraid of him golfing. Not him golfing, a fucking girl swinging a stick next to him. Don't be confused by the words. Yeah, look it, even Troy knows she could shank one and fucking hurt the prez. Dude, let me tell you, Donald's on his fucking last leg. I'd be surprised if he makes it through fucking office, dude. One if a golf ball bounce off of that dude's hip, he's toast. Dude, when that dude is like on, we're going gonna watch that dude get really old right now in
Starting point is 03:00:26 office. Like, he's gonna be in one of those, he'll probably be in a chair by the time he is done. Oh, you don't believe, Tank't even believe you shot. Hitler doesn't believe he was shot either. She's a basketball player. Send me his number again so I can look it up in my phone. Sorry. God, I'm such a douche. God, I'm such a douche. I'm so fucking unorganized sometimes. Oh, Rogan, Rogan did- you don't think Rogan believed he was shot? Rogan didn't believe him? No, you don't have to fuck you're talking about, dude
Starting point is 03:02:20 My mom doesn't believe he got shot, too Do you hear about the guy who killed his family? Because Trump won, he's afraid of all the religious people. This is just nuts. This story starts to go viral over the weekend and honestly had such a hard time even discerning what to say about it. The fear mongering of the media has driven people so far off the cliff that people feel the need not only to end their own life, but in this case to end the life of your wife and children because of the results of a presidential election. Anthony Nephew, 45 years old, specifically cited in his own social media posts that his own mental health was at an all-time low. Yeah, no shit! Everyone on the left there, your fucking mental health is at an all-time low. At all times, that's where you live. ... because of what he believed about religious people and how that could coincide with a Trump presidency.
Starting point is 03:03:12 Tell me this doesn't sound like regurgitated talking points from CNN or MSNBC. My mental health and the world can no longer peacefully coexist, and a lot of the reason is religion. I am terrified of religious zealots inflicting their misguided beliefs on me and my family. I have intrusive thoughts of being burned at the stake as a witch or being crucified on a burning cross. If anything, I hope this He's a Jesus criminy Chalk that up another false claim I'll make but I'm comfortable making it no if Kamala would have won no Fucking Trump supporter would have fucking killed themselves. Jesus criminy me. This is, I think, VNDK8.com, vindicate.com. Get your CEO shirt now.
Starting point is 03:04:18 Check this out. This is Caitlin Clark. Just a reminder that Caitlin Clark is mortal. She's an absolute delight to follow. Talking with fans, making jokes, and having a good time. Okay, here we go. Dude, why would these people be standing so close? This is just idiocy.
Starting point is 03:04:38 Fucking A, someone's gonna lose a tooth. Are you fucking kidding me? Oh my God. Oh my God, dude. That's insane, dude. Guys, look, I'm going to try to pause it. Look at, there's the ball going right into the crowd. This is, it's a Pro-Am, that's how it works. It's a Pro-Tarded. So it's a, it's fucking crazy. Oh my God, dude.
Starting point is 03:05:23 Dude, if that would have hit, if like, if that would have hit Trump on the forehead, he's dead. This is crazy. And then people laugh. Someone almost got killed. How does she hit again? She should just fucking be like, I'm done, it's too risky. Oh people are fuckies dude. And I bet you these are Republicans too if you
Starting point is 03:05:46 wouldn't the dumbest Republicans in the world must be the ones that play golf golf fans Jesus Christ Almighty what a bunch of fucking idiots those are the same Republicans that still send their kids to public school you fucking morons. I can't fucking believe you guys. The fuck is wrong with you? No judgment zone. I played golf once.
Starting point is 03:06:13 I snuck onto a golf course, I think I was like 15, with my buddy. I had to use a putter the entire time. He just gave me one club. Man, Republicans, the dumbest sport in the world, dumbest fans in the world. Fucking insane. Absolutely nuts. I guess they don't, I guess at least they're not going to kill their kids if Kamala wins. I guess that's a win. Alright. Everyone knows if you go to a one club golf...
Starting point is 03:07:07 Oh, I would like to do that. I would like to go to one of those golf places where you just get to go up on the second floor and hit balls and drink and eat nachos. I would love that. Yeah, WNBA fans. God. Yeah, that's probably... that's probably the equivalent. Oh, no, that's worse. God. I bet you of all the sporting events in the world, WNBA fans have the largest number of boosters. It's gotta be, right? Highest number of boosters per capita.
Starting point is 03:07:51 I'm going to type in golfing deaths. Golfing deaths. Nothing good. No golfing deaths. Worst golf accident. Hmm. Oh, five most dangerous golf courting accidents, golf. Look at this. Look at this photo. Virginia Water England, September 14th, Tom McKibben of Northern Ireland checks on a spectator after he was struck by a ball on the fourth hole day, one of the BMW PGA championships at Wentworth Golf Club on September 14th, 2023 in Virginia Water, England.
Starting point is 03:09:09 It's fucking only hitting the chest. What a pussy. Here's a, I guess an animal came on the golf course, flipping a golf cart. The golf cart is a tool, not a toy capable of speeds of 20 plus miles per hour. The seatbelt free ride can turn from fun to fraud if the driver is not careful. Go kart style racing can be tempting but dangerous. In 2016, four time PGA Tour winner Kevin Kissner was temporarily suspended from his home Palmado Golf Club in Ackin, South Carolina for racing golf carts down a hill at the Venerable Club in a video
Starting point is 03:09:54 Produced by Vice Sports. That's a slap on the wrist compared to the painful endings other golf court cart hijinks have had fist fights had fistfights. Fuck off. Spent too much time on golf right there. Yeah, I agree. That dude's a pussy. Get up. Oh, when is the Tyson Paul fight? When is that? I haven't watched any. Oh, you know what my I'm gonna soon as soon as um, God, who do I have Marcus Capone on the show tonight? And who do I have Friday? Please no one Friday. Oh, will rush. Oh, that should be easy. I have so much fighting shit to catch up on by the way We got a born primitive sponsoring kill Taylor this weekend
Starting point is 03:10:48 And then we got sponsors for the two weeks after that and then I think December might be a big month The prize money could get pretty high here this weekend on Saturday the prize money is $1,500 Taylor says there's no fucking way anyone's gonna win it But fucking way anyone's gonna win it but the the prize money might start going up a thousand dollars a week here soon let me see when is the Mike Tyson Jake Paul date and time fight schedule where to watch God it'd be awesome if it doesn't compete with the bout between Mike Tyson and Jake Paul is set for Friday, November 15th. Oh, that's awesome.
Starting point is 03:11:28 That's awesome. Oh, should we do a fight party? Watch the fight. You guys want to do that? That would be crazy. I'd do a fight party. Saturday, my kids have a Jiu-Jitsu tournament. And then there of course there's the
Starting point is 03:11:45 huge UFC fight on Saturday. Countdown a Paul versus Tyson documentary. I need to watch that. Okay, I have to go. I really have to take a shit. I'm like hurting. It's not good. Can't be. It can't be good for the system. The first place winner got $5,000 for the affiliate video contest. Thank you to TwoBrain. Crazy. $5,000. More than 200 videos we got.
Starting point is 03:12:22 We have a lot of videos to show you guys. Well, this is going to be interesting filming myself. My name is Jose. I'm 35 and I go to Vintage CrossFit. What this really means to me, it has brought me out of my comfort zone, but also helped me find myself. Growing up, I was always overweight. After college, I almost hit 500 pounds. I had my weight loss surgery in April 2019,
Starting point is 03:12:52 and I was able to lose over 250 pounds. Ever since I found CrossFit, it has shown me the skills that I never thought I would do as an obese person. They love my story, they feel inspired. When people say that, it makes me feel good. I just don't want to know what did you go through, what I went through.
Starting point is 03:13:12 I'll have to be that advocate for my family, be that role model that I want for my future kids. Thanks to fitness and CrossFit, I've been able to do that. ["Post-City Distancing"] I've been able to do that. 6 p.m. tonight, Pacific Standard Time, Marcus Capone, Navy Seal, Seal Team Six, Seal Team Six operative
Starting point is 03:13:40 for 12 years, takes a psychedelic journey. It's going to be a pretty amazing show tonight. I promise you it won't be like any of the other shows he's been on. Talk to you guys soon. Here's a new documentary coming out. It is called... I don't think you can see it yet unless you see it at a film festival. It's called In Waves in War. So Marcus Capone tonight, 6 o'clock.
Starting point is 03:14:01 See you guys soon. I know, I need to get Jimmy back on. I know. I love Jimmy. I love his Instagram. I need to get Jimmy back on. Alright, talk to you guys soon. Bye-bye.

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