The Sevan Podcast - Liz Collin | Saving Journalism in America

Episode Date: December 6, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:56 Well, hey, that's pretty good. If you can actually get up and just roll into your recording studio, I'm a little jealous. You don't have to worry about fake eyelashes or you know. Liz, you're like a hero of mine. My wife goes, what are you doing? I'm like, what do you mean? And then she's like, it's seven. I've done 3000 shows at 7 a.m. And then I have Liz calling on and I'll drop the S. I apologize. And I, and I jack it up. What a douche canoe. I am so sorry. Oh my gosh. You're, you're totally fine. I'm a fan of yours. I appreciate you having me on. It's a, it's, it's no big deal. Life, life happens. People have real problems. This is not, this is not one of them,
Starting point is 00:01:35 but I do apologize. I have to leave in 45 minutes, but I think that's probably fine. Right? Yeah. It's awesome. God. Climb back into the hole that I came out of. Douche canoe is something I haven't heard for a while though. I like it. Well, thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it. I told my wife, my wife's like, how's it gonna go? I go, well, I'm really well prepared. Unless she treats me like an asshole, it'll be fine. I won't. Don't be worried.
Starting point is 00:01:57 You've already let me off the hook. You're amazing. Uh, no problem. I'm actually jealous, like I said, uh, that you can just roll into your studio. That's great. Thank you. Hey, what about this statement? The George Floyd incident had a greater impact on... Yeah, I don't know if impact's the right word. Yeah, screw it. I'll go with it. Greater impact on the world and on the United States in 9-11. Oh, in terms of social melew, the direction of the country, the economy, the social apparatus,
Starting point is 00:02:37 the... After watching this, go ahead. Yeah. I know it's hard to say because you don't want to insult 9-11. Yeah, I just don't want to insult 3000 people dying. Right. Everyone wants to be the king of tragedy. But boy, man, it is after watching, I mean, I already knew it before. My whole show is, I mentioned George Floyd every single day. I'm so frustrated with what happened there. Yeah, any thoughts on that?
Starting point is 00:03:08 Let me ask it differently. So I don't put you in that spot. How bad is that? How much did the George Floyd incident change the society think like in terms of a oh, I mean, I think in the country's direction. Yeah, I mean, I almost think with 9-11 sadly more good came out of that in the sense that you know, we were more I just don't think you can point to anything good that came of the George Floyd deal. So that that's what's different We're all less safe. There's no cops anymore
Starting point is 00:03:36 You know this Dei stuff was shoved down our throats. Nothing good has come from that as a result People are actually I think more racist now than ever before just because you know they they throw all that out there so I mean I guess that's where I see the difference that I can't really name one good thing that came from George Floyd. When you say it brought us all this DEI stuff I wonder if your take is the same as mine. Meaning after George Floyd, everything became hands off. Everyone took advantage that everyone
Starting point is 00:04:11 became politically correct, terrified. Yeah, I think that, yeah, how dare you say anything to step up here. It's kind of like, then you're called a racist and a Nazi, and that's sort of part of the playbook with the pushback. And I also just think that all of this whole thing in Minneapolis is not the race card, but with all of the other stuff, the stuff with LGBT Being brought into the schools the you know, the transgender talk just every single issue the homelessness situation Call it houseless or what do they call them houseless? I just felt like it brought it made anyone afraid to step up because they would be canceled and I and I feel like the
Starting point is 00:05:03 George Floyd moment was ushered all of that in. Yeah, and I think that before we, you know, I think law enforcement, for the most part, and I think they like to do that, sort of operate in the background. I mean, it is kind of called that thin blue line for a reason, but now we're realizing once that line isn't there anymore, you know, what that is like in our communities, which I think goes to what you're saying with the homeless encampments, the open air drug markets that we see, you know, right before our eyes that we never really saw before. People aren't arrested for loitering, perhaps, you know, like they once were.
Starting point is 00:05:41 So this stuff is all right in front of us because there's really nobody there to do anything about it or policies have so radically changed within departments that the cops can't do anything about it. You made the movie Fall of Minneapolis, wrote the book. Book has a different title. The book is They're Lying, The Media, The Left, and The Death of George Floyd. And yeah, that's how this all started a couple of years ago. And that accompanied me on a driving trip to Idaho. Amazing book, by the way. Is there any chance Trump would pardon Chauvin?
Starting point is 00:06:21 Yeah, so that's a question I get a lot. It's pretty complicated because the way they did this all, there's a state sentence and a federal sentence sort of all wrapped up into this. So Trump certainly can do something about the federal sentence, but the state court has to do something about the state sentence. And already his first appeal was denied by the Minnesota State Supreme Court. And this was based on the change of venue argument that was made, how the heck could he have really a fair trial in Hennington County, just miles away from where all these businesses burned and where this all took place. The jury wasn't sequestered. I mean,
Starting point is 00:06:59 there was a lot of questions about everything that took place in Derek Chauvin's trial. But then the US Supreme Court on appeal did not want to hear that, so they declined as well. So I know currently he's working on another appeal, but Alex King should be out of prison soon. Thomas Lane is out. He was out a couple months ago. Tu Tau is still in prison. He's the officer who was kind of keeping the crowd back. People recall the video, the video that we actually were not allowed to see, which I know, Savan, we've talked at great length about the fall of Minneapolis and everything that took place, but he has a couple years left. In his sentencing, he quoted the Bible, and Judge Peter Cahill did not like that, and gave him about 18 months more in prison as a result of that. Did he say that? The judge said that? Yeah, basically said
Starting point is 00:08:01 that he, you know, thought he would show some remorse by now and did not like the Bible verses that were coming out of The mouth of Tutu who basically said you know I'm not I didn't do this. I'm not going to You know I'm not gonna apologize or sit here and say that I that I did this and that I'm guilty when I'm when I'm not And sort of stuck to his guns there, But the judge did not take well to that. So the judge was like, in my mind, I see you guilty. You're not showing remorse. Hey, here's 18 more months.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Yeah. I mean, his sentence was definitely more than even suggested because you could tell the judge was visibly perturbed by the words coming out of the mouth of Tutel. I think the last time I had you on, did Chauvin just, I think I saw you post it, he just had his year anniversary in jail? That was a year since his stabbing. Just to remind people,
Starting point is 00:09:00 it was about eight days after we released the documentary. Last November, the Derek Chauvin was stabbed 22 times. It was the eight days after we released the documentary last November, the Derek Chauvin was stabbed 22 times. It was the day after Thanksgiving. Guy tried to kill him in prison. A guy that Derek Chauvin did not know that had recently been moved into his unit about a month prior. A man that was a former FBI informant, interestingly enough, who only had a couple years left of his sentence. And he was to be out of the prison system after serving nearly nearly 30 years. So this guy
Starting point is 00:09:31 stabs him out of nowhere. Amazingly, he survives, he still has some nerve damage and struggles to walk. But his life since the stabbing, it's really kind of unimaginable. We've kind of followed the case ever since over at the alpha news, alpha news.org, where we are in Minnesota. But, you know, we continue to keep track of all of this. But Derek was kept away from his materials, you know, he's put back in solitary confinement, he doesn't get the therapy, you know, that many I think would say he needed after this stabbing. He's been transported now a couple of different times since then. And we recently just caught up with him again,
Starting point is 00:10:12 talked to Derek Chauvin about how his life, he had a job in prison before. And all of that basically went away after this stabbing. And the trial for all of this has now been moved four times and that's set for February for this John Turskak is his name who is charged with attempted murder in the case. When you say he was in jail for 30 years and then he stabbed him and he's an FBI informant the implications I guess you're not implying what you're pointing out is something doesn't make sense here. Why would a guy who's on two years away from getting out of a 30 years already in stab Derek Chauvin?
Starting point is 00:10:58 It makes no sense. Yeah, I think there are many, many questions that there's been no answers and we've, we've continued to ask them. We've asked these questions of the federal Bureau of prisons, how this guy was even allowed around him. I mean, mysteriously, Derek is basically by himself in the law library for the first time, uh, an area where before he would have a supervision. So that is strange. Um, and, uh, and, and yeah, as I, as I've said, Keith Ellison,
Starting point is 00:11:26 our attorney general in Minnesota is the very first person to be called after Derek Chauvin is stabbed. Now keep in mind, Ellison is the one who led the prosecution against him here in Minnesota and his family isn't even called for a couple of days as he's in critical condition in the hospital after this stabbing.
Starting point is 00:11:47 So really, I think very peculiar things that took place and continue to take place a year later. And that's why we wanted to go ahead and have a conversation with Derek about all of that. 22 times stabbed. It's wild. So they called Ellison and how do you guys know that? Yeah, Ellison is actually the one to announce that Chauvin had been stabbed, as strange as that sounds, but he was the one talking to the, you know, corporate media in town about how thankful he is that he's okay and things that still do not sit well with Derek's family,
Starting point is 00:12:32 you know, obviously. But he came out and basically talked about it and talked about his condition. What's interesting also in previous stories we've covered, there were some people meeting with Derek before this stabbing that Derek said were representatives from the Attorney General's office. Now the Attorney General's office says to us they were not, they don't know what he's talking about but wanted him to sign some sort of documentation that Derek Chauvin refused at the time. So I know I might sound like a, you know, I get always get labeled a conspiracy theorist and whatnot. But there's definitely a lot going on here. And I think that even the book and the documentary, you know, in a way they were kind of just,
Starting point is 00:13:19 here's the information you can kind of decide for yourself. But there really is a lot going on here that if we were told from the very beginning, I don't think we'd be having this conversation today, but the levels of sort of secrecy and manipulation are really quite remarkable. It's insane. When Derek presents himself in interviews, you interviewed him, you're sitting in front of a computer
Starting point is 00:13:41 and you're on the phone and you're speaking with him, he always presents so sober and calm. And even at one point you say, did you, I think you say, Hey, did you kill George Floyd? And if I would, and he responds calmly and says, no, if I was him, I would have been like, are you out of your fucking mind? Fuck no, I didn't kill him. Does he have to stay sober and calm? I think that's actually kind of his personality, which is also, I think, pretty amazing. I didn't know him before any of this. I'd never met him or anything along those lines. But that's how he was always sort of described, almost kind of robotic, somebody who knew
Starting point is 00:14:22 the manual so well. He was a field training officer, meaning that the higher brass in Minneapolis obviously respected him enough to pair him with new officers to train them. That's not something everybody does. And that's, he was Alex King's FTO. And why Alex in the fall of Minneapolis also talks about that, that he doesn't even blame him because he trusted him and trusts him, you know, to respond accordingly to situations. But yeah, every time I've talked to Derek, it's very much how he is. But then the media can manipulate that into, you know, he's this monster, he's the most racist police officer that's ever, you know, walked the streets of America. I mean, isn't that interesting? And then you actually hear from him and it doesn't seem ever, you know, walked the streets of America. I mean, isn't that isn't that interesting? And then you actually hear from him. And it doesn't seem to, you know, match up with that with that narrative. No, he's he's so sober and sound and calm. And I'm just
Starting point is 00:15:16 listening for his voice. I hear nothing. Do you feel when you present? Do you go out of your way to be extra, you know, sober and calm? You present very sober and calm too. And some of the things, some of the things you present, it's just like you want to pull your hair out. It's just bat shit crazy stuff. Well, yeah, I guess, you know, in the Midwest, in Minnesota, that's kind of how we are. We're boring, I'll be honest, Sivan. We don't have the fun personalities like you guys on the coast
Starting point is 00:15:46 do. But I also think that the job of a journalist or a newscaster should be more of just tell the story, let other people talk. You're the narrator more, if you will. So I don't really feel like it's... I'm glad that's good because trust me, I feel like that inside many will. So I don't really feel like it's I'm glad you know, that's good, because trust me, I some you know, feel like that inside many times. And I'll, you know, perhaps say that more freely once the interview is is over. But I, you know, want to let other people decide how to feel and not not tell them how to. The George Floyd story was very close to home for you. Obviously your husband was president of the police union. Is that correct? Where Chauvin was a police officer. Do you mind me asking how he's doing? Oh yeah, that's just fine. Yeah, Bob. So Bob retired after this. He had always
Starting point is 00:16:40 planned on retiring when he turned 55. That's kind of the way it works. It eventually kind of costs you money to go back to work as a cop. They want you out of there. So he retired and does some security work still now. It's pretty heartbreaking for Bob and for so many officers. Keep in mind, there were 890 cops at the beginning of May of 2020. The number is down to like 480 or 90 at this point. I mean every time I check in I'm like oh my gosh can this even get any lower? And then there's a whole story about lowering the standards to you know get cops to even come to Minneapolis. But it's really sad for all these officers who've left to see what the city has turned into. This is a very vibrant Midwestern city. People would, we would go there all the time to shows, to restaurants. I mean downtown was always bustling. It was a great place to be. I just was doing some checking yesterday and posted on X and Liz Collin on X, but if you want to be depressed by Minnesota news.
Starting point is 00:17:48 It is not depressing. I follow all your channels and you are awesome. You are so good. You are so good. But there's been another record year of homicides in Minneapolis. I mean, I think they had 50 in 2019. There's now 77 so far this year with three weeks left, but it's been up there, 80s or in the 80s and the 90s after George Floyd and in the high 70s again. But yet we have a mayor in Minneapolis that talks about how crime is down and how great everything is and you have the media in town here, you know, just parrot that message when it's just not even close to reality. So it really is, it really is sad. And I guess,
Starting point is 00:18:29 you know, the thought is also why we did this next documentary, kind of something we really wish we didn't have to do, a sequel, if you will, to the fall of Minneapolis, but really to hit that point home, that it really just does not have to be this way. That's what I seem to think quite often. It just doesn't have to be like this. Honestly, I thought maybe your husband, and maybe he still will be, would possibly be put somewhere in Trump's orbit because it looks like he's bringing people in Who've been severely wronged by the woke system?
Starting point is 00:19:10 and people who were honest and You know or whistleblowers or who were you know were wrong by the the establishment and I was actually thinking god I wonder if Liz Colin husband will somehow be brought in. Because, I mean, he clearly has insights into where things can go wrong. And he was wrong by the system. And I thought, wow, was there any talk of that? Was there any opinion brought in?
Starting point is 00:19:36 Bob is very mega from the very beginning. What's interesting, he organized this whole Cops for Trump t-shirt deal back in 2019. So this is actually an interesting story. It really made him a monster by, you know, the media painted that picture of him. But the mayor here in Minneapolis, Mayor Jacob Fry, told the cops attending the rally in support of Trump that year that you can't wear your police uniforms to do so. They change the policy. So keep in mind, police officers who supported Democrats in the past when they would visit Minneapolis at large venues, it was fine. They could wear their uniforms. But of course, it's Donald Trump. So Bob was the president of the Federation at the time. He and a friend
Starting point is 00:20:19 came up with this design, this red shirt, Cops for Trump and Target Center was filled with these red shirts and they raised money for charities in Minneapolis selling these shirts. And Bob was on stage with Trump at the time and was able to meet him and he offered opening remarks just about how great President Trump had been to law enforcement and how he has their backs. And, oh, it was just like my career started to just immediately because Donald Trump was enemy number one to the media in Minnesota. And it was amazing how they really turned Bob into a monster. For someone who believes in law and order,
Starting point is 00:21:00 and Bob still has plans for Minneapolis, he thinks he could probably fix it within just a few weeks. But now you have socialists on the city council, and it's just a completely different, and that's the problem. I don't even know how it gets better at this point until people start voting differently and get actually serious candidates to be politicians in Minneapolis. So it's a long way off. And I had the honor of actually interviewing President Trump a couple of times this election cycle, which I also think really speaks to the media here, Savan, which I know is something you're kind of passionate about too, but isn't that interesting that he comes to Minneapolis a
Starting point is 00:21:40 couple of times. He doesn't give the interview to, you know, the big station that has, you know, a six or 10 o'clock broadcast, but he offers it to someone like me, an independent media journalist, which I think really goes to show how, you know, corporate media is, is basically a life support at this time, which is fine. We're filling the vacuum just fine over at Alpha News. at this time, which is fine. We're filling the vacuum just fine over at Alpha News. You know, if someone in his, I think the president is highly influenced by media and what he sees,
Starting point is 00:22:14 and I think he's a deeply compassionate man. I wonder if anyone in his orbit or if he has seen the fall of Minneapolis. I think that would have a profound effect on him. You know, it's funny, I actually, when I interviewed him, I gave one of his, you know, 17 handlers, my book and a copy of the DVD in hopes that, you know, to get that message to him in a way.
Starting point is 00:22:38 But, you know, Trump was president at the time of all of this too. And this was an election year, which I think, you know, directly played a role in all of this also. But I just don't think, you know, everybody knew all of the facts. And that was really the problem. How did you get the interview with Trump? How does that go down?
Starting point is 00:23:00 Yeah, so he has people that they actually just reached out they called my phone and they said You know you you could have five. I think it was five minutes. It was the limit if you'd like five minutes You know with the the former president would you be interested? I said does anybody actually say no to this when they call you I was really confused that was even like a like a question, of course, you know? And the funny part is, you know, people don't really know behind the scenes. It's really quite something as far as it's all day and then some. You have to be screened 78 times, you know, and rightfully so, and, you know, corralled like cattle waiting for your time. And actually, when he was was brought out this was in St. Cloud
Starting point is 00:23:45 we were at a arena when we when he was brought out oh yeah there's our interview and he he was the person in front of him one of one of his handlers said you know what he doesn't actually have time to do this right now and I thought oh my gosh after after all of this I'm not gonna miss my chance so I made eye contact with President Trump and And I just said, Sir, would you please just give us just a few minutes? I promise I'll be very quick. And he could not have been honestly, he could not have been nicer. I won't make you wait. Immediately just walked over. And you know, I just I just started because I was worried that you know, they're going to pull him away or something. And then it was funny, because after the interview, I said, I know you have to go really quick. I wanted just to show you, this is my husband, Bob. He did the Cops for Trump shirts and I just wanted to just kind of say, you know, hi from the family kind of thing. But I didn't want to do that in the beginning because, you know, I obviously
Starting point is 00:24:40 wanted to get my questions in really quick. And he said, you know, is that microphone on? And he took the microphone from my hand and he gave Bob like a shout out into the camera. It was the craziest thing. Bob, thank you for your support. You know, thank you for your service. It could not have been nicer. And I was like, is this actually even happening? It's really, it was really a very surreal moment. But also, I get that too the media turns these people into these crazed lunatics when they're not like that at all and you can really tell some you know how somebody is within just a couple minutes I really have always believed that in life and you know this guy could not have been nicer and he's you know the most powerful person in the world at this point so the fact that he could sit down with Joe Rogan and shoot the shit for three hours means that, you know, he doesn't have a lot to guard. And I think he's at that age in his life,
Starting point is 00:25:31 too, where clearly he doesn't have a ton to guard. Yeah, and this was right after his assas- well, the first assassination attempt, so he had the bandaid on his ear. Well, he actually, I'm sorry, had just removed the bandaid from his ear. And you could really just see the hole in there. And yeah, it was a moment I'm obviously very, very thankful, thankful for. But also I gave him a chance to talk. I mean, I wanted to ask him Minnesota issues. And he granted another reporter an interview earlier, it was myself and this other reporter. That reporter turned the story into just this whole bash fest. And basically, uh, Trump sound was used maybe like 20 seconds. It was just not even, it was almost not even. So then when he came back to town, I'm sure the press people got in touch with
Starting point is 00:26:16 them and he only interviewed with, with me, but that's, you know, why, why would they talk to them? What a waste of time. The second time he came back, he only interviewed with you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome. Hey, when they told you no and you had to speak up and you had to be like, yo, over here, Mr. President,
Starting point is 00:26:34 was that scary? Was your chest pounding? Or did it just come out of you? I'm actually not really very nervous ever, but I was probably the most nervous I'd been in years talking to him. And I don't know why. I mean, he's honestly like talking to a family member or you know what I mean? He's very warm and respectful, just very, and he doesn't have to be. I mean,
Starting point is 00:26:55 the guy could be a dick. I've certainly interviewed a lot of those in my time, but it was just completely the opposite of that. More and more throughout this election, what I'm seeing is if I were to describe the two candidates, I feel like Donald Trump is running with this attitude. This is who I am, these are my beliefs. If you want me to be president, vote for me, and I'll try to get this bag of junk done.
Starting point is 00:27:24 And that's on the right. And on the left, it's what can we say or not say to get elected? And that's too, is that your perspective also? No, I totally agree. And that's what I thought was really telling, you know, so obviously being here in Minnesota, Tim Walls was selected as the
Starting point is 00:27:53 VP pick for Kamala Harris, and he always has had this problem. And Elf News is one of the few news sources to ever bring this to light about how the guy would lie kind of about everything. I mean, there was a whole campaign this second time as he was running for governor called Tim Walls Lies, and there would be a list of lies. Well, jumps on the the national stage that you know starts to follow him but then the the media in town actually is forced to cover the the lies that that we have been for years including you know lying about your military rank uh lying about you know whether or not you're in Tiananmen Square, these very questionable ties to China, IVF, just things that you're like, what's up with this guy? But people really could see through that. Certainly Trump has flaws like any other human,
Starting point is 00:28:38 but he's always kind of honest about who he is. And I think people are looking for that, especially now, just people who are authentic and genuine. And Tim Wall has certainly had an issue with that. And I think Kamala Harris was right there with him. It's so, that is the thing. So it's the thing, do you think boys should be allowed to play in women's sports?
Starting point is 00:29:02 And I feel like Kamala wants to answer whatever way we'll get her the most votes, where Trump will be like, no, I don't think that's cool. Right. Just like just just moving along. And you saw this. I mean, and thank God we have the media we have now, whether it's on, you know, X or TikTok or however people, because you can catch these lies in real time and blast it out there, which so many people did effectively. Whereas before, we never have had that before to sort of do this live fact check.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Even if they wouldn't do them, let's say during a debate, people could go ahead and find the truth themselves online. So I just don't think people are falling for this garbage like they once were forced to, in my estimation here. And what's interesting, just the election results in Minnesota alone, you have four counties in Minnesota that flipped red. Well, isn't that interesting when our governor is on the ticket that took place? And not only that, but where Tim Walz was a resident in the Mankato area, that county was one to flip red. So the place where he called home for 20 years in Minnesota
Starting point is 00:30:19 did not support him on the presidential ticket. Even like the pundits on CNN or on the left side of the media, they'll say, what can we do to win next time? Should we move more towards the center? And I'm like, man, these people really don't have morals or values or anything to stand on. I mean, I'm sound so naive saying this at 52, but it's almost like really they just want to be in power And I think that this really is a rocket science, right? Like I think we know why people turned out for Trump but people are
Starting point is 00:30:58 Smart and I also think they want to hear your plan We never heard that from the other side and never they want to hear your plan. We never heard that from the other side. Never. They want to be told the truth. I think that's, it's pretty simple. I don't think it's that that difficult. Um, in this movie, which I, man, if you have not seen this, you have to see this. It's on YouTube. Uh, it's called, um, is, I always get it backwards, Minnesota versus We the People. I always want to say We the people versus Minnesota. There is a character.
Starting point is 00:31:27 By the way, this is I'm watching Dexter now. I'm like trying to watch all 10 seasons of Dexter or nine seasons. I don't know if you've seen that show. I've seen some. Yeah, that's good. It's a good show. Your documentary is like right in line with the. Insanity that you see on Dexter. I cannot believe all the twists and turns and the interconnectedness and the incest in the lawfare legal system. There's a character in your movie that I dislike so much.
Starting point is 00:31:58 This officer or attorney Moriarty. This person really pisses me off. This person really, this is a bad human being. I want to play you this clip from the movie. If you haven't, you gotta see this movie. You're going to love this. This movie moves fast. It's 55 minutes long. I sat down and it was over in 15 minutes. It was crazy. I could have kept watching. Do you want to tell us about the premise of the movie first and that like the really big picture, the, you, the 10,000 foot view? Yeah, so this, as I said, is kind of a sequel
Starting point is 00:32:30 to the fall of Minneapolis. What happens now that they basically defunded the police? Well, we've lost five first responders in a matter of 13 months in Minnesota, something that's never happened in our history before. These are really heartbreaking stories, but it's kind of like these cops get, you know, like a day or two of news coverage and everybody just moves along. Well, what the hell happened in each case? And also, you should really, you know, hear from these
Starting point is 00:32:56 families that lost everything. And for what? The answer to that seems to be politics in Minnesota. answer to that seems to be politics in Minnesota. And you go into detail on the murders of these cops and it is each one of them in itself could be its own movie. It's fascinating. Uh, and you, like usual, like you did in the book and in the fall of Minneapolis, there's tons of cool intricate details. Like I was saying, it's like a TV show the way like a fictional TV show, but listen to what this lady says here. This is this is this is why I think that George Floyd is a thousand times more had a bigger effect on
Starting point is 00:33:31 the US than 9-11. Things like this. Here we go. Things that yes there have been increased assaults on law enforcement and we had the tragic situation in Burnsville and now what happened last week But we can't get sucked into this narrative of there is a war on law enforcement. Is she out of her fucking mind? Of course, there's a war on law enforcement We can't get into this narrative and then she goes on to say there's white supremacy in police departments like And then she goes on to say there's white supremacy in police departments. Like, what does she think that the increase against the violence against cops and the spike in murders,
Starting point is 00:34:14 and what does she ever attribute where all that comes from? How does she not think that there's a, it's not a narrative, it's a fact. We all say it everywhere. It's all over the a what it's not a narrative it's a fact we all say everywhere it's all over the news it's everywhere yeah this this is someone that I am pulling my hair out at but I don't do that on camera so I'm glad oh my god like I would I would ship her out she would have to be in a tent in Kenya for three months and do some serious soul searching she needs that
Starting point is 00:34:43 she's so ungrace she's so unhinged. She's so unhinged. She's completely ungrounded. Well, that's what you have. A lot of these people that are, you know, so-called leaders in Minnesota, they are so wrapped up in this, you know, ideology that they can't, they really cannot see clearly. It's really remarkable. So we have like the danger lies, lawfare that these officers are dealing with. And she's speaking here about a Minnesota state trooper. Ryan Laundergen is his name. He's charged with murder. And $500,000 of Hennepin County tax payer dollars are wasted on this case. It's charged.
Starting point is 00:35:22 Five 89 closer to six than five from years ago. Chargers are dismissed in the case because he follows his training. There's a lot of details to this. And then you see how her office kind of manipulates in selling this to the public. But this is what she ran on. I mean, she was the DFL endorsed candidate
Starting point is 00:35:42 for Hennepin County attorney. This is after Floyd too. Keep in mind that the Hennepin County went further left even after George Floyd and what has taken place. Even now, even still now? Yeah, so she's still in power there. And she basically ran on the fact that she was going to prosecute police officers.
Starting point is 00:36:02 So then this pops up and she charges him, drops the charges, but in the meantime, spews all of this junk that's just not supported by facts. I wanna play the clip. I didn't, I want, tell me what, can you tell me what happened first with Lundgren? I see that there's three police officers there in the video and then I'll play the video and show people. Can you tell me what happened? Yeah, so this is a traffic stop that takes place, it would have been
Starting point is 00:36:35 not last summer, the summer before Ricky Cobb, the second, is who they, who they pull over because he doesn't have his lights on and he will not get out of his vehicle. He has a warrant for his arrest, he's a felon, comes out there's a gun on the back seat, etc. But they're trying to get him out of the vehicle and he decides that he's not going to and this goes on for quite some time. It's frustrating to watch, why can't he just listen and get out of the car? And he then takes off, but these troopers are on both sides of him, they're basically stuck in his vehicle.
Starting point is 00:37:14 So Ryan Londergan fires his weapon at Ricky Cobb. He tragically dies and Ryan is charged with his murder. But again, this is something that comes up in training. These officers are dragged in the process and she just talks all about how he didn't follow his training and he should have done this. Or basically they should have just let this felon who had a warrant drive away, you know, and live to see another day, she says. Yeah, she basically says that in the show. They could have just let him go. They just should just let him go. A felon with a warrant. It's really, it's really remarkable. So basically, that is the stance for people who don't get it. It really is, don't prosecute, don't bust criminals.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Yeah. And this is someone who'd been charged with rape. I mean, it's a pretty horrible thing to see had connections to the most violent gangs in this area. But also, again, the media spins this as he's a saint. They don't talk about his real social media photos. Ryan had a great attorney, Chris Maddell, who's also featured in this documentary, Minnesota vs. We the People, that again, people can find on YouTube and watch it for free. But I also think what has taken place in Minnesota isn't exactly
Starting point is 00:38:47 rare. I mean, I think that every state has had its issues since Floyd. And we just try to give a voice to these people to actually talk about it in a way that makes more sense. Because I think a lot of people know that this isn't sitting right with them. They want to be safe. They want to see their cops again out and about. So we really need to expose these people, I think, for who they are for getting us here. And then we need to roadmap things back to normalcy. Yeah, I'm not going to play this because I only have you two more minutes. Later on in the movie, there's a shooting.
Starting point is 00:39:30 There's a man down, Jamal. No, sorry, not Jamal. Jamal is the police officer. The police officer Jamal shows up on the scene and there's a man down because there's a shooting and this officer shows up at the shooting and he sees a man down. So Officer Jamal runs up to this man to help him. He puts on the rubber gloves and to his surprise, the shooter is the man on the ground and points his gun and kills the cop.
Starting point is 00:39:54 The cop was running over there to help him. This guy then shoots him. Then you find, then that's like a year after the Lundgren thing, right? Or no, a few months after. Then you find then that's like a year after the Lundgren thing, right? Um, no, months after. Yep. Yeah. Just a, just a few months after. And this is the Minneapolis cop. Yep. And then that lady Moriarty lady, crazy lady, she then drops the case on Lundgren four days later.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Yeah. She decides that she's not going to charge him and the, and the charges are dropped, but she says one has nothing to do with the other. So, those are her words. But that is absolutely horrific. This police officer who is a wonderful person, murdered in the middle of the street. And what's also interesting is you have this guy in that shooting, kills two people in an apartment, it's a drug deal.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Gets all the way out of there, then is carjacking someone on a moped. I'm not sure if that's considered a carjacking. Somebody sees this, a driver sees this and runs this active shooter over. And it takes police so long to get there. I mean, it's within minutes because there are no police anymore. And it's also Jamal Mitchell responds by himself because for the most part, these cops are by themselves. That never used to be the case either. There would be partners in these squad cars. And they would also get there within about 30 seconds. And my husband worked this precinct before, so this is who I hear this all from. But that's what's really so sad also is, you know, the fact that this is like the Wild Wild West. You have a motorist running over an active shooter because, you know, the cops are not around anymore. And these are the details that are always left out that people really, I think, need to hear to turn this around. Hey, was that driver charged with anything for hitting him? here to turn this around. Hey was that driver charged with anything for hitting him?
Starting point is 00:41:53 So that's a good point. He was not. Good. But yeah that's well and who knows I mean but it's possible you know you never know in Hennepin County. And they in all the other cases they report white man, black man, white man, black man but this report they did not publish Arab shoots black man. Yeah, and what's interesting is Mary Moriarty was a public defender at the time and she represented the shooter in past cases. I mean this was... I would love this. I caught that detail. I'd love to see a whole movie on that. Yeah, it's really... and again, now she's kind of, you know, the top... I mean she is the top prosecutor in Hennepin County, so isn't that isn't that interesting? Okay last question um this one's completely ridiculous Because of the political landscape was there any mention of nominating The fall of Minneapolis for an Academy Award did you were you even close to getting best documentary of the year by any chance?
Starting point is 00:42:43 You know it's funny. No, no, nobody has called. We did receive an award recently at a film festival. Many film festivals have said this is way too racy. They can't feature the fall of Minneapolis. But we were at the Red Pill Film Festival out in California and we received a winner's circle award. So that's in the red pill of film festival.
Starting point is 00:43:06 I think thank those folks. Actually, yeah, I think we have to start, we're gonna start looking for these, you know, made up awards where they all get together and congratulate themselves. There's plenty of them here also, but no, I just like- You should have won the Academy Award for that. You know- Take the Academy.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Yeah. There was a while there where I had five of the top ten all-time grossing documentaries on iTunes. I've made more than ten documentaries. You definitely should have won the Academy Award for that. I mean, what a... Well, thanks. Yeah, insane movie. Yeah. Okay. So Minnesota versus We The People. Thank you so much, Liz. Tell your husband thank you. If there's anything I can ever do for you, thank you. Wonderful having you on.
Starting point is 00:43:46 I appreciate it. Always good to see you. Merry Christmas. Good to see you and hope to see you again soon. All right. Merry Christmas. Ciao. Liz Collin.
Starting point is 00:43:54 Oh, does Liz need a photographer? Dude, Alpha News is great. It's basically I mean I should have asked her this God, I really screwed this up God, I really screwed this up. I woke up at 7 o 5. My wife's like, what are you doing? I'm like, oh my god, then she's like, did you set your alarm? Yeah, it is God's work. Man Liz is awesome. Oh Can you tell my voice is all fucked up? I woke up sick or something. I woke up. It's like I'm at the end of a sickness. Yeah, she's hot too. She's hot. She's smart. She's sober. She's passionate. She's a hard worker. She's all this stuff. She got all the stuff cool-ass husband
Starting point is 00:44:49 Saber severe she sounds like Katie her voice. I've been trying to place it for a while now Heidi I'm surprised CA has a red pill warts. Heidi, I saw your comment on YouTube. I don't even understand it. Are you trying to read it four times? I didn't understand it. I was like, what what kind of hypocrisy is she trying to catch me in? That's weird. I just heard a trash truck. It's not even it's Thursday, right?
Starting point is 00:45:23 I hope I'm. I hope I'm I hope I hope I'm getting over my sickness I gotta leave tomorrow the house at 330 in the morning oh yeah I can't I wonder if I can't do a show tomorrow morning oh I have no guest oh actually that's the wrong schedule yes I looked at my phone this morning and there was no I forgot to set the alarm. Oh, I have Jack, Dela, Madelena tomorrow night for my hotel room in Atlanta. Hopefully, and get Tyson Bajan on to at the same time. UFC show. Jack's won his last 17 fights. No, not too many spicy margaritas.
Starting point is 00:46:08 I don't really drink unless I'm, I don't really drink at home. I only drink when I go out. Oh my goodness. Wow. So in what in 12 hours, in less than 24 hours, I'll be in Atlanta. This article came out. It's pretty funny. I guess a lot, I guess people should be happy about it. Pit stains, are you nervous? No, I sweat in here all the time. I actually wasn't nervous because I was so well prepared. I was so excited to see her. Maybe I was anxious. You know, usually I get up an hour before the show and I drink coffee and I prepare
Starting point is 00:47:13 for the show more like I go I prepare for the show before I go to bed and then an hour before I wake up, drink coffee. And today I woke up at 7.05 and I was in here at 7.13. It was crazy. I probably shouldn't have showered. And I fasted yesterday. So I probably haven't eaten like in 36 hours except for this black coffee. So I'm kind of a wreck. I wonder if that's why my voice sounds weak. Uh yeah, I watched Velner's interview on coffee pods and wads. We can talk about that in a second too if you want. This is from the conversation, CrossFit popular workout regime may decrease need for prescription
Starting point is 00:47:54 drugs. May. May. May. This is so funny. Joseph Ramirez, I did 72 hours fast last week good job, dude Great job Uh, I was Heidi fighting with someone in the comments. Let me see what's going on here Uh, oh, it's Heidi fighting with someone in the comments. Let me see what's going on here
Starting point is 00:48:27 Uh, um Too far back Uh sevi when you're in atlanta, will you go to dr penis? No, probably not Uh fasting is gay Probably you're probably right Uh Probably, you're probably right. Though CrossFit is often seen as a sport for the super fit that shouldn't put you off from trying it, CrossFit is designed to be accessible to everyone with scalable workouts suited for all ages. God, I hate that. To conduct our study, we recruited 1,200 people from the UK who did CrossFit. Participants ranged from 19 to 67.
Starting point is 00:49:03 CrossFit participants ranged from 19 to 67. Of the 1,211 participants, 280 said they took at least one prescription drug to manage a health condition prior to starting CrossFit. Some of the most common health conditions in question included anxiety, depression, asthma, high blood pressure, type 2 diabetes, and chronic pain. We found that 54% of the participants who had been taking prescription drug
Starting point is 00:49:30 before starting CrossFit said they decreased their dosage after starting. Among this group of 151, that's the 54%. 69 reported stopping their medication entirely. I just wanna be like like, yeah duh. We also found that 40% of all participants said they required fewer visits to the doctor after starting CrossFit. Of the 71 people who reported canceling or postponing surgeries, 55% said that it was
Starting point is 00:50:07 because their symptoms improved. While 31% actually reported they no longer needed surgery at all. So the takeaway CrossFit is good for you. It's like, yeah, duh. It's so crazy that there's not more articles like that. Anyway, who wrote this? I should be kind and say thank you to them. Joel Abrams, director of digi- oh no. Oh. No. Who wrote this? I don't see who wrote it.
Starting point is 00:50:48 How do I not see who wrote it? Authors, oh, Jen Wilson and Atheal Redwood Brown. A senior analyst and a senior exercise and health practitioner. Senior exercise and health practitioner senior ex senior exercise and health practitioner I'm a fucking senior health practitioner an exerciser Uh, yes, also, uh hit the like button before you leave yes always hit the like button always hit the like button. When I woke up yesterday morning, I weighed 170 pounds. And when I went to bed, guess how much I weighed? I weighed 170 on the button. When I woke up, I didn't eat all day. I didn't work out yesterday either. Normally I work out when I fast. My body's just beat up. Guess how much I weighed. I bet you none of you can guess. I'll give you
Starting point is 00:51:52 a hint. It's not more than 170. It's not more. No, not 167. Good guess. Fuck, I'm 177. How tall are you? Are you taller than me? Yeah, you're getting closer. Joseph Ramirez, 161. Closer. Still no one's got it. 167, no. 168, no. 166, no. Brianna, I fasted for two days just broke this morning lost nine pounds 164. Yep. I couldn't believe it Yeah, oh So I'm like an inch. I'm probably maybe I'm even shorter than five five now who knows I really don't want to say
Starting point is 00:52:43 I'm five four. I think my driver's license Where's my driver i really don't want to say i'm five four i think my driver's license where's my driver i don't know my wallet here i'll measure myself i'm going to go with five five uh mike mccasky five six 170 is the bmi of 27 forge do five five i'm definitely i've never been five six Yeah, I'm a Chubster for sure. I'm definitely... I feel like a big dude. I can't imagine what it's like to actually be a big guy. It must be fucking crazy because I feel huge.
Starting point is 00:53:25 You've never been five five either. 20. So I would five five. It's a 28.3 BMI. Is that am I morbidly obese? Is that. I don't think that's true. The BMI scale is more useless than the food pyramid. I hear your sentiment, but it can't.
Starting point is 00:54:01 It can't. Really? Is it? Tubby Little Podcaster. Yeah. can't it can't really is it tubby little podcaster yeah maybe what if that was the name of the show tubby little podcaster anyway I don't know oh I should have weighed myself this morning before I drank my coffee I wonder what I would have weighed. That was Stu. Oh, and I was going to.
Starting point is 00:54:26 I was planning on it, except I flew out of bed into the shower. Should I go play a commercial and go away myself and come back? It's kind of too late. I already drank a fucking pint, a pint of diluted paper street coffee. Joseph Ramirez, I was 200 plus at my heaviest. I weighed 182 once, but I was really trying to be as heavy as I could Big Baca feels good being huge 64 to 35. Yeah, that's huge Because I really do feel big I
Starting point is 00:55:01 Got walk around my house thinking like I'm fucking the Jolly Green Giant Oh, that's good. My wife just said text me and said Liz Collins is so cool. Yeah, she is so cool. I Was like god, I hope she's I mean, how do you make Liz Collin wait? I keep saying Collins with an ass. She never even corrected me. Oh shit, you were five five and 200. Yeah, that would be crazy. That would be crazy. Wow, Briannaana you got to 190 Please tell me you're one of those girls where the weight goes straight to your tits, please
Starting point is 00:55:56 That's got to be the worst thing for a woman like Because I think we all have fat cells right you're born with a limited number of fat cells. You don't get any more. You don't lose any and they're distributed throughout your body. And yeah, well, yeah, now you have CrossFit tits, but I'm just saying. Yeah, Breon, I find that hard to believe too. I don't believe it. I know that's crazy.
Starting point is 00:56:24 190. Oh, Matt Burns, no wonder the brothers love you. Wow, Jess T put on 20 doing CrossFit. That's awesome. I wish I would have done that. Well, I guess I kind of did that. Mike McCasky, Breezal Butt. I'm a mess.
Starting point is 00:56:52 Can you guys tell I'm sick? I don't even get sick. How can I be sick? I had all these clips of Walls I wanted to play or two. God, Tim Walls is such a douche. Excuse me. Andrew Hiller posted this in regards to the Pat Velner interview he wrote the origin the original CrossFit Athlete Council was disbanded by request of the PFAA CrossFit recreated the Athlete Council this year also because of the PFAA in
Starting point is 00:57:42 The interview that Pat did he basically he he says With a voice of disdain and I know I'm reading into it, I admit I'm reading into it, but it was with, I believe it was with disdain. He said, I don't even know what disdain means. Let me, let me hold on. Disdain, disdain. Feeling that someone or something is unworthy. Yeah, of respect. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:02 He basically, he said with disdain, my take CrossFit had three athlete councils and none of them have lasted more than six months. I don't know all the details, but I do know that at one point, the PFAA had expressed to CrossFit that they wish they'd get rid of their athlete council because they're already doing it and they don't need both. And it's just just gonna cause conflict and And diminish their ability to do what they want. And so CrossFit actually got rid of it. They they heeded the PFA's Request and the fund, you know
Starting point is 00:58:40 Someone wrote someone wrote fuck around and find out and yeah that that's basically I don't see where the comment is but that's basically what happened you started so you you you wanted them to get rid of their counsel they did now your counsels in power the first thing that they do is request Dave to be fired and now CrossFit has their own council again. And to be on the athlete council for CrossFit you have to have your level one and you have to know that that's not an accident because I doubt that Fikowski or Velner have their level one, I would guess so Jose Ramirez a PFAA equals fantasy yeah I agree
Starting point is 00:59:37 it is funny cac equals legit yeah that is pretty funny what what's the C stand for athlete council what's the C stand the? Athlete Council? What's the C stand for? The first C, CAC. Oh, CrossFit. CrossFit Athlete Council, CAC. What was mine? Mine was PFAG, Professional Fitness Athlete Group. PF Anticy. Yeah, that's good too. Someone asked me the other day, what was the best year for CrossFit media? And really all the years, basically it was just a from 2006 to 2018 it was just a mega run they were all good each one just maybe a little better than than the last like reaching a crazy peak in 2018 I don't know how Fridays are gonna get weird I don't know how I'm gonna do my Dexter show
Starting point is 01:00:48 and CrossFit Games update shows. I gotta figure all that shit out. I thought Pat was pretty, I thought Pat was pretty wishy-washy on some of his answers. He gave a great interview. He was cool. He seemed a little bitter, a little tired. He was clear in his articulation and obtuse at best in pinning him down to anything. I don't walk away knowing anything other than he's frustrated and that he doesn't like online events. Pat's been very consistent for 10 years and just being
Starting point is 01:01:39 constantly critical and there's definitely some entitlement there and you know what if I could if I could couch it in a really nice way about Pat I would just say Pat outgrew the sport. That would be the nicest way I could say it. He outgrew the sport. He got so it's like uh you know at a job when you reach the ceiling and there's nowhere else to go? Let's say like let's say you have a paper route as a kid And then you turn 16 and you're the guy instead of being on a bike like an asshole throwing the papers You're the guy who's in the truck who takes the papers to the kids And then after that, I don't know what position is higher than that But you're that dude's boss that sits in the building that tells people hey you take those papers you take those papers you take and then that's it
Starting point is 01:02:27 And so Pat's reached a level where he wants more and there isn't more That's it that that's what happened God that that describes it perfectly he hit it he hit the ceiling of the the Ability of that job to make money notoriety fameolades, like he hit all the ceilings. He's done it all. There's nothing, there's nothing. And so he's frustrated. And so that's, that's what's happened. That's the nicest way.
Starting point is 01:02:56 I mean, there's, I could say it a lot more negatively. And so, you know, then I guess the negative way would be to say, uh, he say He feels entitled and maybe he's earned that entitlement fuck. I don't know. I Mean that on YouTube there is no glass ceiling Colton busted on busting on velner on barbell spin for being tired for moving boxes was hilarious Oh, I didn't get to see that. I did hear that Colton was on spin for the first 30 minutes and I heard the interview is amazing Uh fondall ceo you've done it all pat now fuck off So, can you give us context on why you're pushing a Dexter show that no one wanted or needed? So, you see the way she asked the question there.
Starting point is 01:04:08 She wants it under the premise that everything I do is about... The premise is that there's no one wanted and no one needed and that I operate from a place of supplying what people want or need. You get that? That's the premise. It's national public radio stuff. Like everything that they start with, they start with something you don't even know. You might not even know what the false premise is because it's been used so many times that you believe it. So every story, every story about the environment starts with already that climate change is
Starting point is 01:04:57 real. It's like Pat even said the other day, Greg has to has to admit that the the temperature on the earth is rising and there's tons of papers out there that explain why we don't have the tools to test the surface of the earth and how shoddy that science is on testing the earth's temperature. There's tons and tons of papers on it. So everyone wants to start with this false premise and then move forward from there. And 99% of the people don't know it. So those are the people who are just trapped in your head in this delusional reality and you want other people to answer your question based on your delusion.
Starting point is 01:05:43 It's a trip, right? It's a trip, right? It's crazy. Yeah, that's my premise. What's your premise? Yeah, that's your premise. Yeah, that's your premise. I just wanted to spend time with Andrew on Friday nights. I'm trying to take him away from Alexis. So I know that they used to have date night on Friday nights, every Friday consistently. So I'm like, what can I do to
Starting point is 01:06:25 take Andrew away from Alexis? And then I saw, oh shit, there's some weird show called Dexter that's going to be on Friday nights. And I know that Andrew's Achilles heel is movies, especially Dexter and TV shows. I can talk to Hiller about watching the show and doing a Weekly Friday night show and that way I'll have him instead of Alexis And that is my agenda Okay, that is my agenda. You can, Pat, you can take the temperature of the air and the Earth's surface and you can do all of those things.
Starting point is 01:07:16 It's just, you'd have to look more specifically, but the takeaway that I got from this one particular article I was reading is that there are so many gazillions of fucking microclimates and changing aspects to the climate that there's no fucking way to do it. With the way that they are doing it, you have to read the article to be like, hey, the earth is warming. Just their protocol of doing it's all fucked up. I don't remember the details but when I read it I was like oh shit that makes sense. Apparently Pat we can't trust the science. I was thinking I was thinking about doing a whole show on the on Pat Velner but I or on wooly like going through and showing where all their flawed logic is
Starting point is 01:08:19 or where they're going back and forth and then I just decided not to I was I didn't want to do it I don't hate those guys oh I def I definitely don't hate Pat I wouldn't say I hate John Wooley but he he he he's a wolf and sheep's clothing for sure. No, he's a sheep. He's a sheep. Yeah, he's a wolf in sheep's clothing for sure. Cash Patel, Trump's pick to lead FBI has been targeted in Iranian hack sources say.
Starting point is 01:09:02 Cash Patel was a key part of the Trump administration's effort against the terrorist Iranian regime and will implement President Trump's policies to protect America from adversaries as the FBI director. Members of the Trump's inner circle have been targeted by foreign hackers in recent months. Last month, the FBI informed Todd Blanche, one of Trump's lead attorneys, and now is picked to be deputy attorney that his cell phone was tapped by Chinese hackers. Three sources familiar with the matter previously told CNN the Chinese government has denied US allegations that it is behind the hack. Donald Trump Jr. has also said he was notified by the FBI that he was one of the top targets
Starting point is 01:09:49 for Iran. There's a line in here that basically says that there was some sort of, I think it's this article. There's a lot, there was a line in there somewhere. I don't know why I can't find it. It's not like it's a long article. There's a line in there that basically that this is just a Psyop that the FBI denies actually doing the hacks themselves and blaming the Chinese and the Iranians because that's what's
Starting point is 01:10:38 I think that's what like a lot of people have been believing that basically the FBI has is doing everything in its power to fuck this dude Cash Patel up. And so when the FBI, I guess this guy's going to explain it here, but I'll tell you my version. When the FBI finds out that your shit's been hacked, supposedly what that does is that lets them start to, in order to protect you, they start to investigate you. So they basically take a comb and go through your entire fucking life, a lice comb, looking to see where possibly these hackers or bad
Starting point is 01:11:13 guys are going to get you. But listen to this, it's pretty wild. Steve, how you doing, brother? Great to be here. Thank you for the invitation. Bro, the stuff that I'm watching with Cash Patel. Did I ran actually hack Cash Patel, or was I ran actually some of the people who used to work with James Comey and Andrew McCabe? Let me drop some knowledge on you. So the FBI has their rule book. It's called the Diag, the domestic investigations
Starting point is 01:11:41 operations guide. And there is a portion in there. It's called appendix G. And it basically stipulates that the FBI can open up a full counterintelligence investigation on anyone who they believe could be the target, like the victim of a recruitment scheme from a foreign actor. So that leak indicates that there's actually a full counterintelligence investigation open on Cash Patel at this time. They're doing it for his benefit, of course, but they're going to get full access to national
Starting point is 01:12:11 security letters to his banking records, all of his electronic communications, again, to protect him against that recruiting. And the fact that the information found this way to the front page of CNN is just, I mean, they just must have great sources, really. I mean, look, Andy Bacay over at CNN now, I'm sure he's just giving guidance back to his Rolodex of Contacts within the FBI. That's right, these people, they're just.
Starting point is 01:12:35 So these guys are speculating, and this one guy used to work for the FBI, he was a whistleblower, the guy on the right here, Steve Friend, I wonder if he's related to Brian Friend. They're basically saying that they're suggesting that the FBI made up the hacking, Chinese hacking, Iranian hacking, as an excuse to protect Kash Patel, which really just gives them access to all his shit. At this point, I'm almost numb to all that stuff. I wonder what we have in place is so bad now.
Starting point is 01:13:14 My tolerance for accepting things that before would have been deal breakers or probably doesn't matter. Did you guys see Pete Hegseth's mom went on Fox and defended him? Yeah, did you guys follow the Pete Hagseth story at all? I guess someone turned in an email that his mom wrote to him Seven years ago when he was going through a divorce and told him basically hey You're a piece of shit and you treat women bad and that email leaked and that his mom went on Fox and said hey I was just in a bad mood in two hours after I wrote that email
Starting point is 01:13:44 I wrote him another email apologizing to him. This shit is savage This shit is savage I am excited uh Bri needs to co-host Lawson's podcast fuck that's not a bad idea I watched Lauren Khalil's podcast yesterday I had to watch it at two times speed because I was taking all these calls. I was having, I was, people were calling me and there were people I wanted to talk to. So I would talk to someone for like five or 10 minutes and realize I'm not really in the
Starting point is 01:14:33 conversation. I'm wanting to be one of the five people listening to Lauren Khalil live. And so I'm like, I get off the phone and then watch it at two times speed again. Trying to think if there was anything in there. If there was anything in there. The whole oh, this is what this is what I was going to say about Lauren's. So listen, listen, this is what I was going to say. So first of all, she's not doing the dating app anymore. Let me bring up her.
Starting point is 01:15:10 So she's not doing the dating app anymore. And she said that. So that kind of bummed me out because that I was really hoping that she's gonna go deeper into that. But look at this. The title of the podcast is boo bruises. And then something with the word snatch. I can't see
Starting point is 01:15:30 Boo boo bruises and snatched jaw And so at one point During the podcast she basically says hey, you're probably wondering about the title It's about my boo the my under boob getting caught. When I do bar muscle ups, and she looked a little embarrassed to be talking about it like she knew that it was a great hook. But, but, but she didn't look comfortable talking about and then she just rushed over it. She basically said, Hey, when I catch my bar muscle up low, I pinch my boob and now I catch it high and it doesn't pinch and the story was over. Oh, so why talk about it if she was embarrassed?
Starting point is 01:16:17 Because I mean, I do that too. Sometimes I think I have this great idea and I start to talk about it and I realize I'm not like, I'm not all in right like you're just not like you have to just seem completely comfortable even if you're not talking about your 10-inch fucking hog you have to just just fake it till you make it but I was thinking and then the piece was over and all the boob talk was over and I was thinking I was actually doing her skit in my head afterwards when the show was over and I was thinking like Lorne needed to say you guys everyone knows I have these massive jugs these big old D's like
Starting point is 01:17:02 she should have really like just played up the titties at first. They're huge I mean they've they started growing when I was 12 You should have seen I got attention and then she should just really laid into this Really gave like five or ten minutes just to her fucking milk bags They're crazy They're crazy for me. I put on a bra and I have to adjust it fucking for 10 minutes to get all the boob underneath it. So for every guy I date, the first thing he wants to do is get at my titties.
Starting point is 01:17:32 I mean, she could have just like, I'm turning myself on talking about it. She should have just, she should have just worked it. Basically, no one, it was just an excuse to talk about your jugs and just get everyone just in the, in the audience and a frenzy about the titties. And then be like, and so one of the things about having giant hammers, not only does every fucking Tom, Dick and Harry want to get at them since I've been 12, but and then go on and talk about the the bar muscle And then she could finish it with like and shit man like, uh
Starting point is 01:18:15 I got I uh, I'll uh She needs to wrap it up with somehow um, I need to find a man who can get at these or something like like Sandwiched it in there like like Lots of tit-talk then just the part no one cared about but your boob getting pinched on the bar and then finished with some great tit-talk But really talk them up personify them I'm in a frenzy now. Thanks. Yeah, you got a little horny yeah that's good Lauren's a straight pog I don't know what that is I don't know what a pog is typical Middle Eastern man telling women how to behave. Now listen, listen, that may be true, but you're projecting that onto me because that's
Starting point is 01:19:09 the way you view the world. How about projecting this typical creative faggot, libtard who has made one fucking successful movie and now thinks he knows how to control every narrative, like every arrogant California director that's ever been out there. How about that? How about that? How about leave my race? My race is Middle Eastern race. How about put me under another? You could still be critical. You could still be critical. Uh another no. Listen, how about this? Another racist analysis? Oh, yes, I got you You feel me and put your old picture back up, please. Thank you Me and that story I am pat Lang says who's the faggot lip-toed that it would be me and that you know what I mean
Starting point is 01:20:05 I'm telling giving you that a Sag sog short-ass Armenian guy CrossFit's documentaries number one on iTunes. I'm gonna watch that tomorrow on the airplane. I'm actually really excited I've heard nothing but good things about it iTunes. I'm gonna watch that tomorrow on the airplane. I'm actually really excited. I've heard nothing but good things about it I've heard two things. We're it's late. Well, it's late. Well, it's late. That's what everyone wants to say I'm like I like I don't give a fuck if it's late I don't care I want to get the guy on who directed it David check when it's late. Yeah, I don't care
Starting point is 01:20:51 Yeah, what do I care I Want to see it it's number one on iTunes. Hey, that's a really good sign by the way That's a really good sign None of the other like none of the other fitness docs will ever reach number one. Like if you did one on what's going on in Europe now, Fuckfest or the one in the Middle East, Dubfest, whatever that one is, no one gives a shit. And I say this with peace and love you oh This is something that Pat said that was fucking hilarious. I'll tell you he said well
Starting point is 01:21:30 We'll just see how the other events do If there's a market for them meaning other competitions Yo, dude, there's no market for the CrossFit Games, bro It's just the affiliates bro. I don't think people realize how good they have it. There are there are podcasters out there who have a hundred times the following I have and listeners and clout and I don't think that they make as much as money as me because of the influence that you 231 people give and bring to this show. I know it sounds fucking crazy but it's true.
Starting point is 01:22:27 Like we don't realize how fucking good we have it. Like this community is so fucking strong and powerful and the way it moves around and passionate. I guess it's just the passion and the consistency. And so these athletes don't realize for such a fucking the fact that they've done so what they've already outdone themselves They got more than what the market really could provide and they still want more and still instead of being like holy shit We can't believe that they believe their own shit you know what I mean they they like the smell that I don't know what the thing is they believe their own shit it's not as big as people think it is it's not not even at all not even at all and Pete and when we when you get inside the fence you get diluted they're delusional about how big the reach of their sport has become. The fans they have are psycho.
Starting point is 01:23:25 Yeah, exactly, exactly. Yep, that says it. Heidi, I only date unavailable men. On purpose? On purpose? Should I go weigh myself and come back? You think I dropped below 164 can you gain weight at night when you sleep from dust settling on you Oh, there actually is an event going on right now. In Dubai or something. Actually, I don't know if that's true. Maybe they're just releasing
Starting point is 01:24:48 workouts. I don't know what's going on. Don't listen to me. Remember when it used to not look at look at even even listen to this even I have become complacent and entitled like I don't even feel like I have to talk anymore. I just sit here and be quiet sometimes like a douche. Who the fuck does that? That's how much I take you guys for granted and expect my listeners to hang on I I'm a dancing fucking monkey every morning for you guys But I'm such an arrogant dancing monkey that every once in a while. I stopped throwing shit and just like chill That's what I mean the whole the whole place is just a bunch of of intelligence. Oh my God. I will tell you this.
Starting point is 01:25:46 This is crazy. This is from Lauren's podcast yesterday. She said that Tommy and Sean are the two most humble people she knows. I don't know if I'm gonna do this bit. What was I gonna tell you? Oh, I'll fucking tell you, Heidi. You ready, Heidi? You ready? You know what I've been doing at night
Starting point is 01:26:17 that I didn't wanna tell you guys yesterday? You ready? God, this one's tough to say. I've been playing video games. I've been playing tennis on the Switch, on the 90 inch TV. And they have these little tiny remotes. They're like this. It's weird, like you can
Starting point is 01:26:49 break it's not like you can break the remote in half and it can be two remotes. I don't know what's happened to video games. And then we have this I bought this game for them on Amazon. It has like 20 sports games in it. And so it's like they're all shitty, you know what I mean? Shitty graphics and shitty, but you get to hold the controller and swing when you swing like this and you hit. And uh, I'm fucking addicted to it. My kids, my kids are like, can we play poker instead? I'm like, no, I want to play tennis. Like they want to sit down and play like live poker. I'm like, no,
Starting point is 01:27:21 someone play tennis with me. So I make, I team up with one of the boys and then we play the other two boys. And I've been, I've been playing video games. I played probably, I've played video games, probably like, I don't even want to, okay. I'm going to, I'm going to say eight days. Let's call my in a row. I'm going to call my wife and ask her if that's like, my wife's probably going to be like 25 days. I wonder how many, like, if we're even close. Let's see what she says. It's fucking embarrassing.
Starting point is 01:27:55 And I'm really enjoying myself. Hello? Hi. Hi. Hey, how many days in a row do you think I played video games? With the kids yeah No by myself when you go to Pilates instead of watching porn. Yeah with the fucking kids. I mean, yes, dear How many days in a row how long have we had it listen video, video games are like sex. I never play by myself.
Starting point is 01:28:34 Yeah, it's not. You sure? Listen, don't ruin my bit. How many days in a row? I told the audience how many days in a row I think I've played, but I know I could be wrong. How many days do you think? Are you embellished? Or no, I think I undersold it because I was in there I think I'm so embarrassed that I play video games You don't play video games Perfect. Thank you. How many days in a row do you think ask Avi how many days? Yeah, okay. Wow. Okay. I said eight ask Avi how many he thinks I played in a row Well, I'll be like you he embolises Well, Avi's like you, he involves us too. Avi, how many days in a row has Heidi played video games with you, do you think? He said like...
Starting point is 01:29:14 How many? Ari, what do you think? I said 10. Oh, okay. Yeah, 10 is about right. I said 10. Okay, I said 8. All right, I'll take it. I said ten.
Starting point is 01:29:25 Oh, okay. Yeah, ten's about right. I said ten. Okay, I said eight. All right, I'll take it. All right, thank you. That's probably twenty. All right.
Starting point is 01:29:33 Thanks for, thank you. Bye. Bye. Anyway, I really like it. I don't see myself quitting anytime soon Live of streaming your video games would actually be entertaining We don't play that I don't even know if you I don't do does it have to be a special video game to stream I'm telling you this game is so There's nothing to this game. I mean it would have been, it's so basic.
Starting point is 01:30:07 Just the cool thing is that you can move. You swing, you know what I mean? You do the, you do the shit. I'll stream any game over here, Seve. Oh, look at Dick Butter over on Stitch, Twitch. Crazy. So that's what it is. That's it. Now you know. I'm an open book.
Starting point is 01:30:32 You guys want to talk about Taylor Self just going to war with Opex and Brute? Pete Benoit. Sevan, have you heard of Rocks OPT? I thought it was a Fitz thing, but no. High Rocks guys set it up. Rocks? No, I don't know what that is. Listen, I want to put the High Rocks thing to rest and just give you guys the definitive SEMA. Listen, SEMA, this is the definitive Middle Eastern man knows everything talk. And I know you guys know this already. So it's whatever High rocks is just CrossFit There was a time when everyone did Fran it was like three years and like there was there was just Fran talk everywhere What's the world record on Fran? What's the world record on Fran? Maybe it was two years. It was like 2009 and 10
Starting point is 01:31:25 That's all high rocks is oh, yeah, we know okay Because all these people are like what's better high rocks or crossfit? What's going to be bigger? What's going to be all it's like Dude, shut the fuck up, dude They took one of our they took fucking mirf and now do it every fucking weekend around the world and sell tickets to it and organize it like it's that's it's just Cross it's just one word. it's just one cross to workout. It's like you went to the gym one day and someone it's it's like the workout you do on Thanksgiving or something when you're your affiliate owner over programmed you know what I mean? It's like the turkey the turkey trot 3000 and you're like holy fuck this thing's crazy
Starting point is 01:32:07 That's all it is Yeah, high rocks is great. Perfect. Fine. Yeah, it can be great. It can be dumb, but it's just crossfit spelt backwards That's all it is Like it is it is And and so just so you know, like I don't think I think everyone who does high rocks is a crossfitter except for like, you know hunter Um, so the thing is is like it's a joke. No one thinks No one in their right mind thinks that high rocks and crossfit are in competition or that one's better than the other like High rocks is just one crossfit workout. That's it It it's like saying
Starting point is 01:32:51 It's this I don't know why I can't think of a metaphor does anyone have one for me it's just a Heidi Krum wrong most. Most high rocks are runners. No, not true. Not, not, not true at all. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. They're all crossfitters. They're all, all nine, even, even Hunter's a crossfitter. He just, he just is in like full blown denial. They may have been runners, but now they're crossfitters.
Starting point is 01:33:24 Yeah. They may have been runners, but now they're Crossfitters. Yeah, it's lame in the sense that there's only so many times you're going to do Fran. And, you know, maybe it's more, it's obviously more robust than Fran as the workout that they've picked. But, like, just don't get it confused. Like, I just, I see these people, High Rocks versus Crossfit, it's like, dude, shut up. That is Crossfit. It's just dude shut up. That is CrossFit They it's just one CrossFit workout That's all it is and I'm sure no matter what anyone tells me whatever the the founder of it or whatever like he was inspired By CrossFit. He's like I'm gonna make this crazy CrossFit workout and I'm going to Have people compete in it regularly and build something around it
Starting point is 01:34:06 I don't think CF hates on CrossFit. That's the thing. Well, I think that we all know it's just a joke when we hate on it. It's just funny. Like there's no real like, it's just a joke. It's just funny.
Starting point is 01:34:20 It's not, but it's just a joke. It's just funny. It's just like making... it's just like making fun of the guy who only lifts heavy at your gym or the guy who only does metcons at your gym. It's kind of like just making fun of him. You still know it's cool. It's like... it's like me in the assault bike. I do high rocks. Yeah, high rocks is generic CF. It's lazy CF. It's just like one workout over and over and over and over.
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Starting point is 01:38:14 Here we go. It's the possibility of being attacked in your home. Leave your fobs at your front door. Somebody's breaking in your house. You're more than welcome to shoot them in Santa Rosa County. We prefer that you do actually. We have a gun safety class we put on every other Saturday and if you take that, you'll shoot a lot better and hopefully you'll save taxpayers money. So this Canadian cop is saying, hey, leave your car keys by your front door so when someone breaks into your house, they can just steal your car without hurting you.
Starting point is 01:38:48 Prevent the possibility of being attacked in your home. Leave your fobs at your front door. If somebody's breaking into your house you're more than welcome to shoot them in Santa Rosa County. We prefer that you do actually. We have a gun safety class we put on every other Saturday and if you take that you'll shoot a lot better and hopefully you'll save taxpayers money Hi, I'm from Canada. I'm a grown man Every day before I go to work I take a big handful of KY jelly and I rub it all on my buttocks and on my anus and I lube that thing Up just in case someone tries to butt fuck me because I ain't gonna fight it I'm gonna just lube that thing up just in case someone tries to butt fuck me because I ain't
Starting point is 01:39:25 gonna fight it I'm gonna just lube up every day before I go to work just in case on the subway someone butt fucks me I'm Canadian I ain't stopping him that's what that's Canada. Anyone can fuck my wife, I'm in a throuple. I'm in a throuple. Crazy. Absolutely fucking nuts living there. That sounds like my neighbor.
Starting point is 01:40:15 That's the most southern Canadian I've ever heard. Thank you. I was going for a southern Canadian. Can you imagine lubing your butt up every day just in case you get ass raped? Because it's the safest way to do it. Who knows? What if you get butt fucked? You better lube that thing up before you go out.
Starting point is 01:40:43 I'm Canadian. That's Canadian safety plan for rapists Hey women in Canada, you should all be on the pill Well, how come I'm not having sex. Well, just in case you get raped you can sit back and enjoy it I'm Justin Trudeau It's fucking nuts. No one does that, dude. Listen, I really want to agree with you. And the premise of this bit was to just show how retarded they are by doing a gross exaggeration
Starting point is 01:41:22 of their behavior. But each time I said it, I started thinking, you know what, there's probably dudes that do do that in Canada. I wish you could have Velner on just so you can ask him to show you his outdoor fob hooks. He would say it so calmly. He would be like, you know, I'd be like, Pat, do you leave your key at the front door like they tell Canadians to do in case you get robbed? He's like, yeah, of course I do. The safety of my family comes first.
Starting point is 01:41:59 It's not a big deal. I have insurance. It's not a big deal. It's not, it's not, it's not a big deal. You're so one-sided. Everything doesn't need to be so aggressive, Fire Dave. Jesus, that's uh, Ken Walters says, uh, I hope Fergie, I hope we get to work out one day and Fergie says I don't scale Ken. Jesus criminy. That's the meanest thing I ever heard. Damn. So you can show. That's a great line.
Starting point is 01:42:49 Can I work out with you? I don't scale. Does Canada really have a home break-in problem or was that just a major overreaction to a video to nothing? Pat, the premise of this piece, I apologize, I wasn't more clear, had nothing to do with home break-ins being a problem or not a problem in Canada. Zero. Nothing to do with that at all.
Starting point is 01:43:20 It had to do with the mindset of being just a complete fucking bitch and letting people fucking walk all over you. That was the point of the piece. The number of break-ins in Canada is irrelevant to my story. No worries. No worries. I'm here too calmly in my Pat Velner voice just to bring along. And you know what? Maybe I didn't explain it well. Maybe. Leave your key fob
Starting point is 01:43:58 at the door. How about do both? How about leave your key fob, super glue your key fob by the front door so when he grabs it and starts pulling on it you Hear it and have time to blast his ass I don't know how this shit's gonna work. I need to have Dale Saran on the show and ask him about this I have no idea. How the fuck is this gonna work. I need to have Dale Saran on the show and ask him about this I have no idea how the fuck is this gonna work? I Really like this lady Huckabee, um, what's her name something Huckabee? Her dad was the I think her dad was the governor also of Arkansas Wasn't this lady? Wasn't this lady the press secretary for Donald Trump this Huckabee chick?
Starting point is 01:44:46 This chick is fucking smart Sarah huckabee. Yeah her her dad Mike mike huckabee tom huckabee carl huckabee Her dad, um has these um dvds there's like 160 of them or something And they tell you the history of the United States for kids.
Starting point is 01:45:08 They're kind of cheesy but I got them on eBay all 160 of them for like 160 bucks or something a dollar a piece and when my kids are being bad I make them watch them. Yeah Mike Huckabee. Yeah. Anyway, and now so this his daughter, she's a G. She's the governor of Arkansas. She doesn't she doesn't like China having land in Arkansas. I'm announcing that Syngenta, a Chinese state owned agrochemical company, must give up its land holdings in Arkansas. Syngenta owns 160 acres in northeast Arkansas, which it uses primarily for seed research. The company that owns Syngenta, Kim China, is also on the Department of Defense's list
Starting point is 01:45:55 of Chinese military companies posing a clear threat to our state. Seeds are technology. Chinese state-owned corporations filter that technology back to their homeland, stealing American research and telling our enemies how to target American farms. That is a clear threat to our national security and to our great farmers. Can we do that? Does that mean there's 43 people listening on Twitter? I didn't think anyone watched this show on Twitter We just stream it there so it's backed up this is crazy, right? By the way, no one say to me don't fill my DMS and be like what were those DVDs? You have your kids watch on US history that Mike Huckabee made
Starting point is 01:46:37 No, you Google it don't ask me if you want to buy those for your kids just put in Mike Huckabee DVD kids series Those fuckers yourself start DMing me ask me. What was the name of that book again? Oh Fuck you. I don't know Can she do that? Can she kick them out? Can can you can you just kick someone out because they're Chinese? Yeah, I tweet now Mike McCasky. I tweet. I just started tweeting. I'm a tweeter.
Starting point is 01:47:07 You stream to X? Uh huh. I do. I'm a straight tweeter. Bye bye China. National security under that premise. Bye bye China. I can't believe it's taking me so long to find to get to Twitter. It's cool. For all my foreign friends,
Starting point is 01:48:07 don't worry, Trump is here. Apparently mass migration has enriched Western European cities. I grew up in Manchester, a city enriched by immigrants. Like in Milan, 65% of all crimes were committed in the United Nations. Like in Paris, foreign migrants were behind. 77% of sold rapes on the streets of Paris in 2023. Like in Austria, migrants made up close to half of all known suspects in sex crime cases. Like in Germany, migrants commit 58.5% of all violent crimes. Apparently the real source of the problem
Starting point is 01:48:38 is the perception that we don't have control of immigration. is just all in your head. Like in Switzerland, 67% of people in prison last year were foreign migrants. Anyway, do illegal migrants even exist in the first place? So do you know how many illegal migrants we have in the country at the moment? What does the phrase illegal migrant mean? That's a phrase that is used by some, but that's not a phrase in law. Anybody has a right to come here.
Starting point is 01:49:00 Now, if that doesn't make you feel enriched, nothing will. Apparently, mass migration has in... Holy fuck. It's worse than Europe than I thought. I should have known, I should have known whatever happened because they have a lower t-count overall. I should have known that it's fucking worse over there. Europe's migrants are far worse than our migrants. It's not even the migrants I'm worried about, it's the fucking illegal migrants. Mike Sandone Islam Islam
Starting point is 01:49:54 They've been doing it in Europe for over a decade now, yeah, I Remember the first time I went to Paris and then I went there ten years later and it was a completely different person there. I went there and I saw a lot of blonde haired people and then I went 10 years later and there were no blonde haired people near the Arc de Triomphe and I was like oh shit something's happened here. It's like going to a Jiu-Jitsu tournament but instead of Brazilians it's Muslims Man Europe holy shit, what are they gonna do? And when I mean Europe, I mean everywhere except Poland Poland's got their shit tight.
Starting point is 01:50:46 So tight. No, let's talk about Taylor. Let me show this and then let's talk about Taylor and then I'll go. I need to eat and do vitamin C and I got shit I got to do. Yeah, the same way they crack down on social media. I think it was very alarming. We had meetings this spring that were the most alarming meetings I've ever been in, where they were taking us through their plans and it was.
Starting point is 01:51:12 What kind of, can you talk about it? Basically just full government control, like this sort of thing. There will be a small number of large companies that will be completely regulated, controlled by the government. They told us, they told us, they just said, don't even start startups, like don't even bother. Wow. They said, this is already over. It's going to be two or three companies and we're just going to, we're going to, we're going to control them. And that's that. Like this is already finished. Oh my God. No. Then
Starting point is 01:51:32 when you leave a meeting like that, what do you do? You go endorse Donald Trump. Oh my God. So I certainly, how do you, so someone played the libtard for I certainly how do you so Someone play the libtard for me. How do you see that and not be like, okay, I get it. I'll do four years with Trump How do you not be like holy shit the government's gonna try to fucking control AI And they're not gonna let anyone else enter the space Holy shit. That means all of the information we get and all the brainwashing will be controlled by one fucking entity. Isn't that enough? Aren't you like, okay, fine. Fine, I'll vote for him. Just for four years. Fine, I'll vote for him just for four years.
Starting point is 01:52:31 David, you're going to be the guy that like, you're going to be the guy that just nitpicks every little thing he does. And I get it. And I appreciate having you here. And you're going to be a good test for me just to be like, uh-huh, I understand. David, let me propose this to you, Mr. Weed. He's in a meeting with Trudeau. I want you to listen to this seriously. Okay, ready David? And I want you to, I want you to rate your appreciation for this.
Starting point is 01:53:02 The leader of Canada comes down to visit him in Florida at his Mar-a-Lago residence. He's not even president yet. And he says, Mr. Trump, these tariffs are going to fuck our country. And Trump responds to him like, hey, dude, you better get your shit tightened up, because we're already in the negative 100 billion a year on you because of the fucking inequities in our fucking trade deals and the tariffs and shit. So that's not my problem. I'm tariffing your ass. And Trudeau says, well, we got to figure something out because that if we lose that 100 billion, it's going to fuck the people of Canada. And Trump says we could always annex you and make you the 51st state.
Starting point is 01:53:44 And Trump says we could always annex you and make you the 51st state If you if you David Weed as the man I think you are don't give that a 10 out of 10 for just fucking hardcore gangster shit to say at a dinner table to some fucking leader to say at a dinner table to some fucking leader. Fine, I don't even care if it's real or not. Let's say I made up the whole story. I don't even care, you in there. Okay, let's say it's not real.
Starting point is 01:54:15 Let's say he didn't say that to Trudeau. Did that in fact happen? I don't know. I'll give it to you guys that it didn't happen, but let's say it did happen. Joel, that happened. Let's not fight with them on that yet. Hold on, we'll ass-pound them in a second. How?
Starting point is 01:54:34 How do you- do you think that- did you like that David? On a one out of ten, what would you rate that for Trump? Tell me. I'd give it a fucking 10. Especially to that fucking Cuck Trudeau. There's no formalities, there's no PC, it's just a fucking like, no I think David's struggling now, I think he knows it's a 10 also. It's David Weed dude. Yeah, David Weed, sorry, David Weed, yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:09 Yo, from one to 10, it's 100. David, put down your penis and type in a number. I demand, David. David, this is God. I swear to God, I'll come over there and ass pound you in Portugal if you don't put a number. Rate the fucking score based on Trump's interaction with Trudeau now. A yes if it was real a 10. Okay, okay. Alright.
Starting point is 01:55:36 But it ain't real. Okay. Alright. Alright. Alright. There we go. Even David's afraid of God. Ten from David. Yeah. I mean it's, it's um. No, do not, do not call, do not call in David.
Starting point is 01:55:56 Call in. I hate it when you guys say call in. I don't want to fucking talk to anyone. Don't call in. Dude, how about, oh, what were we, who are we gonna talk about? Oh, Taylor. I don't want to fucking talk to anyone. Don't call in. Dude, how about oh, what were we who are we gonna talk about? Oh Taylor. Okay, let's go over to Taylor's Instagram what a crazy fucking just I Was talking to him on the phone yesterday
Starting point is 01:56:18 And I was just explaining that Like Like I have to show you something else first You guys aren't gonna you guys this is gonna really piss some of you off David's probably gonna call me a faggot it. Um, Shit don't let me lose track of where I was. We're gonna talk about taylor in a second I have to show you this first. I've been sending all of this shit to uh, Pedro. You guys know Pedro lives in um, You know, ireland is just straight libtard cuck world, right? And they're getting destroyed right now. Their shit is just fucking unraveling. They've just bent over and grabbed their ankles. They have they have more immigration in the last three years than they've had,
Starting point is 01:57:14 like in the previous 20 or some fucking bizarre stat like that. And their shit's getting just bent over. Their shit's unraveling. And you know, they're an inbred country of just fucking little fucking people whose eyes are too close to each other that talk funny that no one can understand. And so I've been I've been sending just tons of clips like this over to Pedro. I think Pedro already got red-pilled though. To groom and sexually abused a teenage girl leaving her with painful and grave trauma has been jailed for 8 and a half years. Amirul Arif Bin Maud Yunus 38 pleaded guilty to six counts of engaging in a sexual act with a child under 17. One count of sexual exploitation of a child and one of meeting a child for the purpose of sexual exploitation.
Starting point is 01:58:02 She was 15 when most of the incidents occurred between May and June 2023. She said, the man took something from me that will never return. The judge said Eunice had breached the trust of the girl who was groomed by him and then abused. Are we just going to accept a country, a society where this is normal? I'm reading this a day after we heard that a foreign migrant slit an eight-year-old girl's throat, killing her because of her social media use. And this is all happening in Ireland, once one of the safest countries in the world.
Starting point is 01:58:37 Trote, trote. Can you imagine being my friend? I text with with uh, and that's the shit I send you. Like you're hoping like your day's all good and shit. You're cruising around. You find out your dog doesn't have cancer. He just has a fucking lump. Uh, I'm leaving and Ari and Joseph, I'm leaving Joseph and Ari,
Starting point is 01:59:00 I'm leaving and Joseph and Ari have colds. Oh shit. Your mom is on her way. I'm leaving at 9. I'll be has piano at 1130 Oh, okay. That's good. Oh my wife said good job with Liz Thank you Okay, sorry, okay, I'm gonna get to Taylor there's something I just want to show you it's like really important I Showed it to you yesterday, but I want to emphasize this again Where is it?
Starting point is 01:59:33 There's so much Emma Lawson shit in this thread I can't wait for her podcast it's gonna be great. Okay. I showed you this yesterday So you have to remember this if you really if you really want a pigeon homie, Seema, it's not that I'm a middle eastern man or whatever, or whatever you called me. This is my fucking life. My life is like this non-stop throughout the day. This is the land I live in. There's a house built out of stone. Wooden floors, walls, and window sills. Tables and chairs warmed by all of the dust. I love you dad This is a place where I don't feel alone Dad!
Starting point is 02:00:35 So that's, that's, I mean, shit. I mean that's, I mean you guys see it the boys just roll in here, and I just so my perspective is just like Yeah, there's nothing like it dude. Why'd you make us cry? I know it's crazy, right? If you have kids dude, and they're like if you have kids who love you dick your perspective is all fucked up Like your threshold the same way Dexter has a threshold for Killing people that's I have that threshold on the internet Of just like crazy shit like nothing can like how can anything faze me?
Starting point is 02:01:21 I can just walk in the house and three dudes will jump on me and tell me they love me. It's like, fuck. They're not even hairy dudes. Nothing like it. Yeah, it's crazy, right? You've never seen me hug them. Dude, I am the most fucking... I love on those boys so fucking hard. When the boys go to bed I check in on them and rub their back while they're asleep like three times a fucking night
Starting point is 02:01:50 whispering their ear I love you Joseph I love you Ari I love you Avi make myself cry just saying it it's crazy yeah I yeah I hug him and I stroke their thighs and back muscles I cupped the boys the other day. It was so, I mean I cup them regularly, but it was so fun. Get to feel all their little muscles on their back and feel how they're developing on their spine, feel their shoulders. I talk about all their body parts to them. Tell them make sure they pull back their foreskin regularly.
Starting point is 02:02:24 All that shit It's crazy I do I massage their hamstrings. I do all that shit every day. It's nuts When they're if they're showering I always go in there and I always Wash the bottom of their feet and I always get the spot in between their toes I want any fucking fungus and itchy feet I don't want them to have the shit that I got I read to my seven-year-old every night my stepson is 18 I'm so fucking proud of him yeah isn't that crazy I was actually thinking the other day this is
Starting point is 02:03:00 gonna fucking be kind of hard to say but you know Taylor's dad is dead and I was thinking the other day God if his dad alive, his dad would be so fucking proud of him. Fuck, I told myself I'd never cry on air again. How fucking proud would you be if Taylor was your son? Fucking crazy. And so that's the perspective. So like he's fighting with Elle and he's fighting with all these people, but that's not the lens.
Starting point is 02:03:39 I don't even look at it like that. Like I don't even care what he says. I'm just like, um, uh, Okay, no more of that talk Fuck Okay, one more Nope can't read that I might have to do a commercial. I'm fucking coming apart. I might need to eat a sandwich or something.
Starting point is 02:04:19 Hey. Hey. I'm trying to get you off. I'm trying to get you off the tears. Okay, hold on one second. I got to reconnect your phone. You're popping. I'm a grown ass man and woman can't console me.
Starting point is 02:04:41 No, I feel better already that you called. Hello. We can talk about cabinets. There you go. There you go. Oh, man. I'm here for you. Thank you. We'll have a safe trip to Georgia. Oh, thank you. Is that where Atlanta is? That's where you're going. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 02:05:10 Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah, it'll be cool. It sucks because I got to wake up at 330 in the morning and I really, I'm too old to wake up that early. I actually probably have to wake up. Oh, I also want to-
Starting point is 02:05:21 Go ahead. Go ahead. I also wanted to encourage you to definitely take that trip to Vegas with the boys. Oh, I know. Wouldn't that be cool? I took my kids when they were about that age. We had a blast. There's just so much to do.
Starting point is 02:05:38 Yeah, that's cool. Did the roller coasters, did the? did the hoover dam did the Grand canyon it's all within reach. Oh, that's so cool. Yeah, I need to do that. I I Yeah, I meant to tell you definitely book that trip. You'll not regret it. Yeah, and it'll blow them away They've never seen they I mean they've seen so little it'll just blow them away The grand canyon is just incredible All right, so was the Hoover Dam. Thank you for the call. You're welcome Savan. All right, we'll talk to you later. All right, love you.
Starting point is 02:06:14 Bye. Love you too. Bye. All right. Shannon Medeiros, good morning. Speaking of great sons, great kids, the hardest part is you raise the ones you can't live without to learn to live without you. Love my kids who are all amazing adults. Oh yeah, I don't even know how that's gonna happen. I don't even know how that's gonna happen. Maybe I'll just keep that clip there. And for those of you who don't have kids, you know, that's the way your parents feel about you. It's just crazy.
Starting point is 02:07:10 Okay Taylor let's go. Yep. Here we go. Okay Sentinel Scholarship. He's oh that's kind of cool. So let me go back to that. That's actually really cool My pride and joy CrossFit level one certificate. So sentinels giving away a level one. That's the thing. Isn't it just crazy? There's probably think about that
Starting point is 02:07:38 There's probably people that that's what the part that like his his life has been so intense and That's what, the part that like his life has been so intense and so rich and he has such a broad landscape in his brain that he has access to and places he can go that he's not afraid to go because just, you know, he's just been through it, right? So Taylor is the expression of a human being who just wants to stay free. He doesn't want to play politics. He doesn't want to play any dumb games. He just wants to be free. And because of that, he'll just explode. Like if he feels any bars or cages or restrictions on him or in the space, he just explodes on it. He doesn't feel comfortable almost having the thought that he's not comfortable expressing,
Starting point is 02:08:24 so he expresses it. He just blurts it out. He doesn't want doesn't feel comfortable almost having a thought that he's not comfortable expressing so he expresses it He just blurts it out doesn't want to hold anything in And and and in that way like I Like I'm not suggesting that like Matt Okie for L or these people that you know who take regular ass-pounding from him shouldn't be like offended like I don't want people talking shit about me on the internet too, but But also it's like You have to put it in context of what you have going on in your life and what you're offended by and not offended
Starting point is 02:08:53 By and this is what I was gonna say Lauren said that she she sees Tommy and Shawnee as the Two most humble people with the small with no ego in the space and it's like hey it doesn't matter what anyone presents on the outside or blah blah blah if you're getting offended by anything that's your ego that's all that is and i'm not even saying that ego isn't a bad thing i'm not even saying being offended is a bad thing all i'm saying is that if you get offended, that's your fucking ego. You're protecting something. They've touched on some delusion that you keep about the realities of this world and
Starting point is 02:09:38 they hit it. They said something and it was an arrow that went into your psyche and hit some thought you had and you couldn't let it go because you stand by that thought. And that's your ego. That's your fucking delusional self. And I find it very hard to believe. When I think of Tommy and Shania, maybe I have them totally mischaracterized. I think them of as people who are very easily offended and they can't go
Starting point is 02:10:08 anywhere they want in their brain. They have like, what's politically correct, what's safe, what's not safe. What hurts people. Do they have this whole landscape that you have to navigate inside their heads of what's okay and not okay. Being professional, politically correct. Won't say the N-word. It's like that's all that all that is is that's just all ego. Yeah, he loves you too, Pat.
Starting point is 02:10:35 You guys are perfect for each other. You guys must have some crazy DMs. Fuck you must be said so many times in your DMs. He loves fighting with you. He thinks you're great. You scratch a great itch for him. Okay, here we go. So basically, the way I understand it is
Starting point is 02:11:02 Taylor has been accusing OPEX and L of using other people's workouts and AI without being honest about it. I don't think he has a problem with them using it. I even thought after hearing them fight back and forth, I thought what a great program. What if you sold a program online and all you did was subscribe to everyone's programs and cherry pick their shit and curated them? So what if you subscribe to Sentinel, Proven, Mayhem,
Starting point is 02:11:36 the Matt Fraser one, Misfits, Training Think Tank, all the ones out there. What if you subscribe to all of them? Hiller Fit, yeah, what did Hiller Fit? And then you just, and every day you just pick the work, you just cherry pick them. And you gave credit to them. It's probably a fucking, I think it's a good idea.
Starting point is 02:12:01 Just cherry, just pick the best ones for that day and share them. And so it would be kind of like, I don't use Spotify, but aren't there playlists? Like, can't you go on there and be like, hey, this is Barry McOchner. This is what Barry McOchner works out to. Like Barry can make a playlist on there and then everyone can listen to his playlist Can't you do that? Pool Boy sounds expensive and retarded Mike McCasky you just described 99% of the internet content
Starting point is 02:12:36 Yeah, I guess it's like yeah, I guess that's what this show is. I just cherry-pick other people's content It's a good point people's content. It's a good point. Anyway, so I think what the part that I think Taylor was ass-pounding Coach L because Coach L, he was accusing Coach L of taking other people's workouts without giving them credit. Anyway, he's giving away his level one, which is just amazing. Which shows that the the li libtards the libtards can't understand this because they they don't they don't follow a truth They just want to win So this makes them scratch their head like the libtards at HQ some of them or probably the libtards in the community
Starting point is 02:13:16 They're like wait. I thought he hated CrossFit No, he's just honest and free. He fucking loves the level one. He thinks it's the greatest thing fucking ever So he's giving one away because he knows it's a fucking great gift to give to another human being Pat Lang This show is not a cherry picker. You're extremely original mostly because you're the only one who has the balls to go after anyone else Well, thank you. I appreciate that Sporty Beth has the best tits in the space.
Starting point is 02:13:47 Okay, some Biden regime shit. Chilling video shows, Gunman. Oh yeah, that was kind of crazy. Watch your head do explode, Trump. Oh, all the L stuff. Maybe all the L stuff's gone. But basically that's what happened. Oh, so basically, okay, I'll go back to it. Here we go. It looks like it's still up here
Starting point is 02:14:13 It's kind of cool that his entire story has like a whole drama unfold That sucked ass, okay Just look in the look. Just looking at the camera. Now I try to do it without staring at the computer. Yeah. Oh, we got one more good one. Jesus Christ, Bryson's eyes are close together. You could poke him in the eye.
Starting point is 02:14:39 You could poke him in both eyes with one finger. You know, like in the three stooges, you had to do this. You could poke Bryson in both eyes with one finger. You know, like in the three stooges, you had to do this. You could poke Bryson in both eyes with one finger. Where should I be looking when you're reading? Okay, so, letting, here he talks about letting AI write your workouts for you is insane. And then OPEX responds.
Starting point is 02:15:03 No, no, they didn't respond yet. Expert used AI for programming all of his clients' workouts. Taylor's basically saying he doesn't fucking like that. That's fucking stupid. He wants in-person training. And then he says, this is what you're paying Coach L for. He's the CEO of Brute. I thought Torres was the CEO of Brute. But basically you're paying them to steal workouts from Brandon Luckett.
Starting point is 02:15:37 Someone wrote, hey I just took part in the Brute mentorship run by L and Coach RX is their holy grail and it felt like they refused the acknowledge and functionality of any of the other platform while the AI feature was not discussed, this wouldn't surprise me. Meaning they're using AI, I guess, to scale workouts or something. Taylor's saying that you can't, one-on-one programming doesn't mean scaling other people's workouts. And then Opex wrote to him, to Taylor, every industry will use AI tools to enhance experience, create efficiency and improve customer service, or you will be outworked by those who do. Isn't it interesting? They say it improves everything except product.
Starting point is 02:16:23 And that's the only thing Taylor's concerned about is product. Every industry will use AI tools. So that's a justification. Like, so what if every industry uses it? That doesn't mean you have to use it. That's just some sort of retarded logic. To enhance experience.
Starting point is 02:16:35 I don't think Taylor would be opposed to it enhancing experience. I don't think he'd be opposed to it creating efficiency and improve customer experience. He said experience twice. That's not even what Taylor's talking about. He said experience twice. That's not that's not even what um Taylor's talking about He's talking about giving people credit and then offering quality Product
Starting point is 02:16:53 That it's kind it's kind of weird OPEC's it's kind of sad that they kind of outed themselves there That's the thing going against what Greg says right chase excellence and the money will come will come. It's like, no, they're chasing the money with that. And I'm not saying that there's not a place for AI. Fuck, what do I know? But they're totally missing the point. Taylor's hyper-focused on giving on a quality product. So now OPEX is claiming that I need to do more research before I make assumptions. So I did research about CoachRx
Starting point is 02:17:26 and the first thing it has is streamline your business and scale your programming with RXBots AI assistant. And I said, Hey bro, one-to-one coaching and scaling don't go together. You don't scale custom programming. You can't. And then the response was, if you don't use AI you'll be outworked and outperformed by every company who does. And I laughed because they just gave me the ultimate job security. Because I know me, I like working with people who are honest, who are genuine, who work hard, but who I can talk to and who I can learn from and who I can support. And I don't want to work for a fucking robot or be coached by one for that matter. No teleprompter.
Starting point is 02:18:19 Just straight from the heart. Brandon and the EMOM company wrote a great workout and I gave Rafa and told him where it came from. This is L basically telling Taylor like, hey, fuck you, dude. I told Rafa where the workout came from. I challenged Taylor self to a program competition. Loser shuts the fuck up forever. So the point that Taylor was making is that you may have told Rafa, but you didn't tell the world.
Starting point is 02:18:47 I challenged Taylor to a programming competition. Loser shuts the fuck up forever. One, you're never going to get me to shut the fuck up. Two, what's the challenge? Buying as many other people's programs as possible and copy and pasting as many as I can in a day. You win buddy. He asked him what the programming challenge and Elle responds, I can't, nah, I can't accuse me and then come ask me for questions after. Competition is whatever you want it to be. If the horrible coach that just steals workouts, surely I'll lose.
Starting point is 02:19:23 Meaning like, hey, you go ahead and decide what you want the competition to be. You're the one accusing me of things that aren't true. Although what's interesting is he still hasn't said, it's not true, which is a trip to me. You're telling me, and then Taylor responds, you telling me you challenge me to a programming competition then getting worked up when I ask you what the competition is, are you okay? This is exactly the issue. I never claimed I was a better programmer than you. I claim that you take other people's workouts and copy and paste and call it custom and
Starting point is 02:19:59 then charge $3.75 a month. And then he shows that this AI software, this is fucking ridiculous. This AI software says, while our prompt database is awesome for supercharging your chat GPT game, RxBot is like having a mini you that's trained specifically in ass things. Trained specifically in ass things? What are ass things? That must be Canadian, lubing your butt. So I was right, they do lube their butts.
Starting point is 02:20:43 Ass things. So proves his point. They don't even proofread their shit. L goes on to say that's not how much it costs. And then he says, Taylor says, Oh, really? So the person who paid you 375 was lying. L says, Yes, they were. And then Taylor responds, No, they were not you were a liar. And then L says, laugh out loud. Okay, dude. And then Taylor says, it's not okay. That's why you're on blast. You can't even define a programming competition. You just throw a fit when I ask you what the challenge is. And I asked Taylor, I said, Hey, what, why are you well, I'll get to that in a second. So then L tries to call Taylor on FaceTime on Instagram, and Taylor says, that'll be
Starting point is 02:21:27 $375 for face-to-face chat. And L laughs, and then he says, but if you sign up for Sentinel in the month of December, you get a free 30-minute meeting with me and Bryson. I'm just working on this programming competition against Coach L. And the program he writes his first workout for the programming competition is a workout for time bounce on my dick 50 times. That's crazy. Oh shit. Oh hey I guarantee you got in trouble from that. I think I win bro. I think I know his wife yelled at him for that. So that's that. That's that situation.
Starting point is 02:22:30 And you know, Coach L makes a living doing that, has a lot of clients, a lot of prestigious clients. So he probably, you know, doesn't like being attacked. He probably doesn't like his, you know, credibility being attacked. And I spoke to Taylor briefly yesterday, we're talking about Kil Taylor. And I said, Hey, dude, just realize that most people just can't go as hard as you and you know, they're going to get butt chafed way easier than you do. And he said, Hey, dude, it's basically, we have to keep, we have to call each other out and people have to call each other out in this space to keep it clean. It has to have respect and integrity. I think that was the word he used integrity.
Starting point is 02:23:16 And when you're stealing people's workouts and not giving them credit, that's like just that's not integrity. I assume I didn't I want to ask Taylor if he spoke to Brandon Luckett. It would be interesting to hear what Brandon Luckett has to say. Taylor if he spoke to Brandon Luckett it would be interesting to hear what Brandon Luckett has to say. Pullboy Barry, when Rafa posted on his story evidently that it was when Coach L told him it was from Brandon so he didn't tell Rafa until Rafa already posted his story and tagged out. Underdogs charges 500 a month. I mean dude, do you really think $500 a month is too expensive to have fucking Kotler as your coach? I mean that seems extremely reasonable to me. Like beyond reasonable. Like I don't know how Kotler is making any money Uh, I looked at um, I looked at Serena Williams coach It's fucking crazy how much he charges
Starting point is 02:24:18 That's too much are you out of your fucking well, maybe it's too much for you or too much for me. Oh You guys are fucking nuts. He isn't special. You're out of your fucking well, maybe it's too much for you or too much for me. Oh You guys are fucking nuts. He isn't special. You're out of your fucking mind, dude You wouldn't you're out of your mind. I want to say Serena Williams co-charges over $5,000 an hour It's $500 a weekend of photos too much at water pelusa. No $500 for photos is like if you Is like two hours work and I ain't editing shit. Here's the disc. I Don't know how how the fuck is he supposed to make money if he does if Kotler doesn't charge $500 I mean, I think you should charge $500 a week minimum. Dude. And there you go.
Starting point is 02:25:13 That takes us back to the Pat Velner space. Maybe the space can't handle that, right? The quality of coaching is surpassed or what the coaches can provide has hit a glass ceiling relative to the amount of money they can charge and be professional. And by professional, I don't mean professional like, Hi, I'm a professional athlete. I mean professional like be able to fuck your wife without a condom, buy a car and a house and raise them. Yeah. And here you go.
Starting point is 02:25:39 Exactly. Pat Lang, I agree. Tennis players make millions. Crossfitters make nothing. Hard to justify paying that much unless you're a contender for podium. 100%. I don't think that that means he's not worth that much. But the two may seem contradictory, but they're not to me. Hello, Mikey. Hi. If you see someone with a lizard man as their profile pic, is that in their conspiracy theorist? That's what I think.
Starting point is 02:26:12 They're like telling you like, I think I would pick Kotler. Trying to think. I think it could get pretty fucking real in there. I couldn't be, there's other camps, there's people I like, I don't want to say their names, but there's other camps for sure where I don't think it's very real. Great camps that have turned out great athletes. But I'd have to be able to go crazy. Carrie, hi. Huge Liz Collin fan in Minnesota, no fear baby. Yeah, she's bad to the bone. She is bad to the bone. She is bad to the bone.
Starting point is 02:27:28 She's something else. Torres would be interesting. I think Torres is too much person for me. Like, Kotler isn't like, Kotler's already like dead and gone because he has kids and a wife and like, there's not, there's, it could be all about me. I think with Torres, there's like some about him. I'm guessing. I don't know. I mean, I really like the guy It'd be great to go to a party with him and watch him just fucking picked hot chicks off
Starting point is 02:28:14 How do you pick Shane or yeah, I could see Shane or being great too Probably Shane or is like huge chunk of him is dead too. I don't mean that in a bad way at all. I just mean that I chain oars like a huge chunk of him is dead too. I don't mean that in a bad way at all. I just mean that I don't want anyone who's into themself. And I think Kotler just focuses in on his athletes. And if you can handle that fucking pressure, I think he just fucks you up.
Starting point is 02:28:43 Like he's in there with you. And so you feel crazy responsible for making sure he's happy. No, I don't think I don't think Kotler's full of himself at all.ler. I think he's... Oh yeah, Justin's coach would be... Yep, that's a good point. Adam Neyfer too. Adam Neyfer I think has a totally different way of making you feel like you better perform for him. Yep, Neyfer's fucking this shit. That's a great point. That is a good point. Matt is great for mental gaming. He adjusts pretty well to personalities. Yeah, he's, I think as a human being, he's pretty's fat. I think as a human being he's pretty damn fascinating Like it's so obvious there's so much under there that he's not sharing and yet he's not quiet, you know, who who's the
Starting point is 02:29:55 Who's the Who's the black guy that I had on the show Christian Harris? I Christian Harris on and you know, there's so much going on in there But he just wouldn't let me at that let at it And it's obvious that he won't let me at it. Whereas matt Torres is like kind of like, um He's not trying to like when you're interviewing him, you know There's a lot back there that he's not letting you get at but he's not trying to intimidate you and tell you to stop Picking at it. He's fine with you picking at it. Go ahead
Starting point is 02:30:23 Take at it Torres is too fine with you picking at it. Go ahead, pick at it. Torres is too worried about slaying puss. He's definitely got that slaying puss vibe, that's for sure. Maybe that's why I like him so much. What maybe you want him to slay your puss, Heidi and standee. And so that's what you're picking off from him and you're projecting onto him. Just a thought. I mean, I'm just, you know, you know what I mean? God, I want to fuck that guy, man. He's a pervert. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:31:00 Yeah. James Townsend would be crazy. James Townsend would be good. Yeah. Another dude. Yep. He'd be crazy. James Townsend would be good. Yeah, another dude. Yep, he'd be great. I want Alisa Royce as my trainer.
Starting point is 02:31:14 You better bring a fucking tub of lube. Better lube your asshole up. You want to work out in assless chaps and fucking a dog collar around your neck? Yeah, we should check in on James. All right, I don't know what's going on on the show tomorrow. I got to call Susa, see maybe if Garrett's gonna do the show. I forgot to ask her I don't know what this is This was the head trainer at CrossFit HQ, Jenny Lau. This chick was amazing. There was a guy who came into the, there was a guy who was a waiter at the coffee shop
Starting point is 02:32:29 breakfast place next to HQ and he was like 200 pounds overweight and she brought him into the HQ gym and took a hundred pounds off him. I can't remember his name, but a video was made on it at HQ. It was fucking amazing. This chick is amazing. This chick still lives in my area and I see her all the time It's crazy. No one knows who she is. This was the head trainer at our gym at HQ for years. She trained everyone She's no spring chicken, That chick's hot too. That chick's probably 45 years old.
Starting point is 02:33:32 I went on a motorcycle ride with her. It was like a three day motorcycle ride or four-day motorcycle ride like camping trip motorcycle ride So you ride somewhere and then you camp and then you ride back And I don't know how many of us there were I'm making this up but there were 20 of us and it was like two chicks and 18 dudes and Someone was on one of those adventure bikes big big Honda adventure bike, and they got a flat tire. I sat on the back of her motorcycle. Probably would have been safer, dude. What does she have? She had a pretty sick Harley.
Starting point is 02:34:22 Did she peg me? No, she's married. Thanks for asking though. And by the way, I like your pick, Free Daniel Penny. And no one there knew how to change the tire on a motorcycle and she did it. That's pretty crazy. Changing the tire on a motorcycle looks like the most fucking complicated thing ever. I'd rather do heart surgery on someone.
Starting point is 02:34:49 Yeah, this chick's a badass. Her Instagram account is strength biased. She's no joke. Just imagine being the head trainer at CrossFit HQ. Like everyone there is a fucking know it all. She had to deal with all those people. Hey. Hey, dude dude what's up i got a perspective on uh Taylor oh okay so yeah you showed that girl that's like doing some bell workouts you know external rotation and sit throughs and stuff
Starting point is 02:35:19 hey hold on one second hold on hold on god fucking popping so I sound ruins every fucking call Okay, go ahead you have a perspective on on Coach L and Taylor's beef. Yeah. Yeah Go ahead go ahead so so all these like Influencers or people getting clicks or some programs, put their stuff onto Instagram, which essentially like their IP, but they put it on a social platform. So you got L potentially scraping these workouts or people selling programs are super dirt cheap. Like at what point do we realize they're like, okay, it's all out there for public knowledge.
Starting point is 02:36:03 Same thing as like.com. So if L takes a workout and let's say that athletes doing one, two, three things a day. And then one of those things is Brandon Luckett's. Like what's the difference than just throwing in a.com workout? I don't know. Nothing. Is there more to that? No, nothing. I'm not sure what you're saying, but let me throw this out there.
Starting point is 02:36:24 And if I'm off base, I think just the issue is if someone who's as high profile as Coach L is taking other people's workouts, then they should give credit. Sure. But like at the end of the day, what's the difference between being on basketball team? Hello? I couldn't hear you at all. What's the difference? At the end of the day, being on a basketball team, shooting free throws, every player is going to shoot free throws.
Starting point is 02:36:57 So if you're doing EMOMS, what's the difference? For some reason, I'm not following. So there's like a huge beef about the stealing of the program. Is that the heart? Well, I don't know if it's the stealing. I think everyone knows you can't protect the workouts. It's just having the integrity to give people credit. Sure.
Starting point is 02:37:21 Yeah, yeah. I agree with that. I'm just saying now that the space is so small, at what point do the workouts just become workouts and does it even matter? So you're saying like maybe a thousand people have written that workout, which person do you give credit to it? Would that be like an example of what you're saying? Like if you say, hey, if you tell your athlete to go run a 5k, you know a shitload of people
Starting point is 02:37:44 have given credit, have programmed that. Who do you give credit to? I guess there's that point too. I think in this particular circumstance, the nuance is that Brandon Luckett, but I see your point. I think it's that there's some validity to it or it's worth definitely noting, but I think Brandon Luckett's this guy, he started doing these EMOM stuff
Starting point is 02:38:08 as he was kind of breaking away from being a competitor. It really took off and I don't know if he expected it to take off. And he started building a business around it. People really liked his programming and what he was doing. And this program didn't look like it was programmed that long ago. I think the end and Taylor's just
Starting point is 02:38:28 and I think maybe Taylor doesn't appreciate the he doesn't appreciate the fact that you that someone's also not programming their own original shit for someone. So yeah I see your point though I see your point like who do you give credit for if you're like, hey, go out and run for 400s with a two minute break? It's like, Yeah. And then the other layer to that is like, what if this athlete saw Brandon Luckett's EMOM and wanted to do it and Elle gave it to him and then he posted it and it started this whole thing. Like, I don't know if that happened or not, but what if that was the case or I don't know if that happened or not, but what if that was the case or that sounds like that is what happened. It sounds like coach L basically said to Rafa, Hey, here's a workout I saw on Brandon Luckett's page. You should do it. And yeah, cause that happens a lot. Yeah. And then Rafa posted it and tagged coach L instead of, um,
Starting point is 02:39:20 instead of, but that's not what happened. Oh, oh, but we don't know. I mean but that's not what happened. Oh But we don't know I mean that's the thing like I just think there's a lot more context there That's not giving credit on both ends, right? Right. Do you think and do you think it's inappropriate what Taylor did? No, I think it's good like he's saying having accountability in the space, but it's also like let's ask more questions like What and then what does a brand like you should have brand luck it on the show and ask and then even ask how he feels About posting his workouts online every day, right? You mean so that they're just out there for free Yeah, like anybody anybody in these comments we could all do this workout like his workout today right now, right?
Starting point is 02:40:02 And that hurts his business down the road, too Well, all right, but it'd be interesting I think there's way more context have Taylor now on see if they want to talk about it Yeah, yeah, I guess I could I'm so You know what I wanted like I'm just making a list of like athletes I want to have on and like, I'm ready to have a whole new set of athletes on like people I've never had on before. Like I'm ready to like, you know what I mean? Like I'm ready. Like I'm just ready. Like Hattie can use Austin Hatfield, stick to my, my usuals of like maybe like Dallin and
Starting point is 02:40:46 and Colton of course Colton I'd like to have Colton on every week but I Don't know Really the old guard is really pissing me off Yeah, I don't pissing me off is pissing me off is not the right word. I don't want to put energy into them. That's what it is. I don't want to put energy into them. Maybe it's just as simple as this.
Starting point is 02:41:17 It's like I have this guava tree and it gives really little guavas versus I have the guava tree that gives huge guavas that are like 10 times bigger. And I like the one that gives the bigger fruit because it's better for my return for how much I water it and I just feel like some of the athletes it's like not even worth watering them anymore the return on them is just blech. 100% yeah hey have everybody do Brandon Luckett's workouts they're they're good you'll love them okay I'll pull them up right now and give them away for free Sick. Okay. Bye. Thanks What is um, what is Brandon like it's just fucking give away all Brandon shit free. What is his mom II? E-mom
Starting point is 02:41:56 The oh the E-mom company Listen fuck Brandon luck it I'm jealous Brandon such a good programmer. Fuck this dude. It's give away all the shit. I'm jealous that Brandon's such a good programmer. Fuck this dude. He's giving away all his shit. I don't know man. If I'm a chick I'd rather fuck Brandon Luckett than Fikowski. Who is making fun of his abs?
Starting point is 02:42:21 Are you out of your fucking mind? What fucking turn up truck? I mean, I understand Fikowski's probably has like more like definition, but Brandon Luckett looks like a man has like a man body. Heidi. Where's Heidi? Um, is Brandon Luckett single? No. Hey Annie smart. He's like he's like he's smart and like he's gonna like He's gonna have a picket fence in a house and like three rental properties We would you guys would you rather
Starting point is 02:43:01 Look at those cum gutters Jesus criminy That's when I get confused if whether you're a dude or a girl. I have to just stare at your ass when you say that. Heidi, would you rather, in a hypothetical world, would you rather bone Brandon or Fikowski? Luck it's so much sexier than Fikowski. Look, it's so much sexier than Fikowski. I don't see any fucking workouts on here. He ain't giving that shit away for free. Brandon, 100%.
Starting point is 02:43:36 Yeah, me too. Here we go. I should probably get off the show now while me and Heidi are agreeing. Oh shut it. Clock. I sent Tyson Vajin a text the other day. He made a post about saving money or something like that and I sent him a text and I said, Hey dude, I'm not some financial wizard, but I spent every cent I had on paying down mortgages. And now I can put gas in my car and buy avocados. You guys have heard the line without worrying about it.
Starting point is 02:44:20 I just want to give you my two cents. He just thanks buddy. Thanks buddy. about it I just want to give you my two cents he just thanks buddy thanks buddy I'm giving advice to NFL quarterbacks Jesus whatever I got a call from Travis last night asked me if I'm going to the game in San Fran with him. I felt like a fucking douche. Thanks, buddy means fuck off. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:44:52 No, the fact. Well, yeah, it means fuck off, but I'm at least going to give you the respect to say fuck off because you're my dad's old friend. I it sucks because I so want to take my son To the 49er Bears game because Tyson I know Tyson will come over and say hi to him But uh, I just I just got to do this thing in Atlanta I'm so torn and you know what else I wanted to do I kind of I forgot that that fit fit fuck that fuck that thing in the UK UK fit is going on this weekend
Starting point is 02:45:29 And I kind of in the back of my mind was running this idea of just fucking with Colton all week, right? Like just sending Colton links all fucking weekend and just having him come on. Is that an individual comp? What is that comp is that is that for some reason that whenever I think of anything happening in Europe? I always think of them as What are those fights that may whether to ex exhibitions like not real events? Is it just an exhibition event where they just work out on stage or something? They're like cold Mertens here. He is doing thrusters or is it does he like go against someone? How does that work? Oh
Starting point is 02:46:03 Shit What's a thousand bucks dude? It's a thousand bucks on Friday. It's Teams. No wonder I don't give a fuck. Okay. All right. God they're so stupid. Well, I don't know if they're stupid, but if you... The thing to do at that event... Does anyone know who's on Colton's team? Has he posted pictures yet? Where's Colton? Colton...
Starting point is 02:46:37 I gotta go. I can't be doing this. Who's on Colton's team? Of course, Colton doesn't even say. Does anyone know? Teams are gay except Colton's. What, what, what, what? Who's on histon's team? Does anyone know? No one knows.
Starting point is 02:47:28 No one even knows. Nick Matthew is on his team. Dallin, Dallin and Matthews, Dallin, Hopper and Matthews. Oh, it's a four-person team. Yeah, just imagine. So all you, like, if you wanted to do, like, how do they not do me? Oh, here, someone sent me a link. Thank you. All you have to do, oh, it's just two fucking teams. Holy shit, Harry Lightfoot looks like a retarded version of Ricky Gerard in this photo, doesn't he?
Starting point is 02:48:09 Right here? Like Ricky Gerard if he had Down syndrome? Oh, Anjola Khai is going to be there. All you have to do, man, all you have to do is mic some of these dudes up. Just mic up Colton, Hopper, and Dallin. Oh, Shelby Neal's going? That's a pretty cool cast of characters. Ariel, Abigail Domet, Fee, people, hey, listen, fit fuck fest. Next time
Starting point is 02:48:58 you do something like that. Reach out to me or Sus, write us a check for five grand and we'll fucking send out a filmmaker and put mics on these guys and give you fucking amazing cheap fucking 30 minute video behind the scenes of Colton and just talking hellacious shit and making your event actually someone give two fucks about it. So easy. What are you guys doing? Maybe someone is doing that maybe I'm speaking that term maybe someone's gonna DM me and be like we are you asshole all right thanks guys interesting show
Starting point is 02:49:48 I'll see you guys later. I don't know when for sure Friday night with Jack Dale and Madelaine things you need to watch You have to watch the documentary the cost of cross the games documentary, let's talk about that and watch Minnesota versus we the people you should definitely see that. It's on YouTube. So good. We'll piss you off. Every single person I know who's watched this texts me, And then there was one more thing you need to watch I don't remember Pat Lang 12 out of 10 for the show. Oh, thank you 5 out of 10 19 out out of 19. David wrong for once, 7.5. Didn't I get a 5 from you yesterday David? Talk to you guys later. Buh-bye. Bye bye.
Starting point is 02:51:06 My experience was, I told her, you build one in Portland and I'll start. Coming from a bad back, not really able to move, doctors said medication probably until you can't take it, then we'll do surgery. So that was kind of what motivated me to get into it. So a year into CrossFit, probably one of the best shape of my life, I was diagnosed with cancer. We got through it. You push through these things that always joked. I was like, okay, here we go through, what was it, 35 rounds of radiation, three rounds of chemo.
Starting point is 02:51:59 I said, here we go, three, two, one, go. It's like a workout. Let's get through it, you know. There's no doubt. I've been in oncology, radiation oncology for over 30 years. With what he was up against, there's no doubt in my mind if it wouldn't have been for CrossFit and the way he was, we built him up and how strong he was, he wouldn't be here today.

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