The Sevan Podcast - Review of the Dave Castro Week in Review Show | November 6, 2023

Episode Date: November 7, 2023

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Keto talk. What his diet is like. Okay okay so we'll do the first uh let's do the first portion at one and a quarter speed and you tell me pedro i haven't seen it yet but you tell me when to go to 1.5 speed from 13 minutes or 14 minutes that's. Where I got cheaters. You idiot. Andrew Hiller from dinner. Andrew Hiller from Hiller fit. Uh, are you,

are you juiced up or not? Natural. Fuck. Well, but the box isn't checked though. Not natural video coming out tomorrow on that surprise tomorrow. You'll find out. Not much of a surprise. The head, the head tells you everything you gotta know. You'll find out Not much of a surprise the head tells you everything

You gotta know You'll find out if Andrew Hiller is natural You think that guy did you see my show this morning Yeah All the assholes in the comments are like ask him if he's natty My god no I would bet that he's probably natural He's just a freak

Oh that is one of those right He did have some like Tony Robbins shit going on He's a big dude Yeah, he had a big head Like Kristoff Horvath He's like 10% of the way To having some gigantism Yeah, he's massive

I bet you Kristoff has a huge dong Welcome to the show Pedro, good to have you Coffee Pods and Wads I bet he doesn't Really? Welcome to the show. Pedro, good to have you. Coffee pods and wads. Hello. I bet he doesn't. Really? You just tear him right back down.

Hold on a second. Fuck you, Dave. You think Kristoff doesn't have... You think it's a normal dick or a small dick? Normal, but he's huge, so it looks smaller. So it's just average dick. It's relative. It's like bodybuilders whose quads get huge,

their penises look smaller You ever experience that? No but I'm just really disappointed I want Kristoff to have like just a coke bottle down there That'd be worse What? You ever hear about that? Those are like the worst types of penises

No not like a coke bottle All the long ones. Yeah, just like one of those glass ones from back in the day. Thick in the middle. Magnus Holmgren, Irish guy being the sensitive person. Wow, that's not normal. I don't even understand that.

Is that facetious? Is that like fellatio or different? You're correct. Pedro, come back to the States please you need sun damn i saw a video of myself last week and i was like fuck i am so pale like so pale i like it see-through translucent okay we don't have time to to small talk let's get to this i have a day so uh like usual we have the uh week uh the the this is the review of the week and review from dave castro this is the premier uh communications

that comes out of crossfit hq um it is some of the most authentic uh interaction i think that any fucking corporation anywhere on fucking planet earth has with their um uh with the world um if you don't know dave's background he is a man of uh profound integrity service uh complex uh very very complex life i don't even think anywhere has a story been told publicly but he's beloved even by those who can't stand him they love love him. He's a very unique character. And this is his weekly comms as the head of the training department at CrossFit HQ and the head of the games. And he's been there since Masel Manos Day 1. Okay.

Oh, you know what I want to do really quick? Can you guys lower your... Sorry. Speak. Yep. Not your audio lower your audio to take it off automatic and lower it to like 30 and make people really have to turn up their tvs you have a much fancier system than i do are you guys do you guys both lower yourselves to 30? I'm lower to something. I don't know. Okay, good.

Let me make sure Dave is full blast. You guys complain in the comments if you want, if you can't hear Dave. Okay. In review, November 6, 2023. That coffee, pods, and wads. Wow. Hey, andave has his headset on

hey i don't think he's worth it's working though i think he has it on but he has it on like john young has it on right right okay it's recording to the computer yeah that's too bad all right how many athletes have been tested this calendar year by CrossFit, and do you think this number should, can be increased to similar levels to other sports? The question was, because I have it sped up, it was kind of hard to understand. That's not helping. Are you testing, basically, Pedro asked him, put him on the spot, are you testing enough athletes? Here we go.

You dickhead, Pedro. I don't know what the similar levels are to other sports. I don't know what that represents. Why don't you come back and tell me how many people are tested in other sports, and specifically the other sports that you are referring to, because I don't know what other sports you might have in mind. I do think we could probably increase the number of people we test. It's not cheap.

It's not easy. I would like to test way more people, but there are a lot of constraints and a lot of restrictions or a lot of financial implications in making a decision like that. But I would like to see the testing increase. We do a lot of testing. We do a lot of out-of-season testing. Regardless of how much we do at this point, I still would like to see an environment where we have more. And maybe we'll get to a place where that is possible um in on the thread we're on today i someone said that there's been only 13 out of season tests um in crossfit and i don't know if that number is

accurate or not accurate but on top of that so then we looked at the ufc's had 2700 and if you scroll down i commented some numbers to him but i don't know if you'd read it but i gave that one the usc tennis golf but but but all of that being said um i'm completely happy with his answer we just don't have the money to do it and here's the reason why i'm happy they sell 10 billion dollars worth of golf balls golf balls golf balls a year golf balls 10 billion the ufc i'm sure is worth over 5 billion dollars maybe 10 billion dollars and they do 2700 tests in crossfit you have to guess the revenues let's say 100 million a year at max so i i'm perfectly okay with the testing i like

for what i mean but i don't i and let me put a caveat to that too i don't give a shit anyway uh hillar thoughts on testing are they testing enough um do you like his excuse that we just don't have enough money i mean that's what he said right we just don't have enough money to test more he said i want to test more we don't have enough money. I mean, that's what he said, right? We just don't have enough money to test more. He said, I want to test more. We don't have the money in a gentle way. I think you said it on your show this morning. The how you do anything is how you do everything statement. I don't remember what it was in relation to, but all I can think about is what seemed to be going a mile

for them to get someone to go record with Tyson and how hard it was to get that one piece of content out on Tyson. Yeah. And now they had to do it by five in relation to the drug testing, which every single time they drug test these people, they never catch anybody. And the only thing that was not true, that's not true. They catch people out of season. Have they, what's the last big name athlete you think has gotten caught out of season? I don't know, but they catch people. I don't know if it's out of season or in season, but. They catch people. Out of season? What's the last big-name athlete you think has gotten caught out of season? I don't know, but they catch people.

I don't know if it's out of season or in season, but they do catch people. Yeah, they catch random people who finish 15,000 in the open. They got Ricky. Yeah, they got him at the games, though. That wasn't out of season. Okay. That was in 2017. He's probably the last big-name person to have gotten caught, if not the only big-name person to have gotten caught.

They didn't catch Joe Montana. They didn't catch Joe Montana. I think it comes down to the testing agency, the type of tests they're doing. And the only thing that would be better is if they were to test all 40, which we know that they can't do. Why can't they do it? Because of money.

That's what I'm saying. Do you tolerate their excuse? Let me ask you this. Let's say it costs $5,000 to test an athlete. I don't even hear it as an excuse. It's just, it is what it is. How much, do we know how much it is to test someone? Yeah, but are you critical? I'm just wondering, are you critical of HQ for not doing enough testing? Because here's the solution. Why don't we take $100,000 away from first place, right, and do 10 more tests? Or let's say we can do 20 more tests that's it

for $100,000 are we willing to do that? I say fuck that, fuck no I say no as well I say you're probably better off doing none oh shit Dan's fucking people up yeah, Hiller, take that

Jason Smith, big name right, that's good he was caught at the semis that was not a season though yeah why does that matter what's the implication of getting caught in season or out of season what why are you doing when it's in season they're all at the event you can get as many as you want and they still don't take as many as they could and when it's out of season they've got to get a drug tester to the place and schedule it with the athlete so your time and travel and what you're saying is that's a more valid test because they don't know

it's coming and of course everyone with the iq over 10 can avoid getting popped at the event because they know it's coming that's why you're saying there's a difference though right it's who came up to me who i claimed of using performance enhancing drugs at the games, that chick, uh, Pinheiro, the masters or masters. And she goes, I tested a negative here. And I go, well, fucking duh. Right. Pedro, do you have any, Pedro, are you okay with this? With the, um, his, like, are we still, I guess what I'm, I sense that in our, in our thread, I sense that people were being critical that CrossFit's not doing enough. And I just don't think they have enough money. And I'm saying, I sense that in our thread, I sense that people were being critical that CrossFit's

not doing enough. And I just don't think they have enough money. And I'm like, yeah, fuck it. They don't have enough money, but like, I suppose it would alleviate a lot of noise if they could test people more. Like, it would appease a lot of people. It would quieten a lot of people down. Well, let's ask Hiller

that. I don't think I agree with that either. I think even if they tested, look at the Olympics. People are like, you don't know what the Olympics do and everyone's ask Hiller that. I don't think I agree with that either. I think even if they tested, look at the Olympics. People are like, you don't know what the Olympics do and everyone's still critical as fuck of the Olympics. Right, right, right. But the expense thing, like they, so I heard that they tested an athlete that was visiting another gym.

So like, it's not too difficult for them to keep an eye, like athletes are very obvious about where they're going and when they're going they're very like open on social media and stuff especially the big ones so it'd be pretty easy to find out like oh shit we've got a tester based in fucking seattle and athlete x is going to seattle let's organize that instead of like oh let's get the person traveling from seattle over to fucking florida for one i don't know i don't i don't like you say like i never thought about that about so like people can like skip tests or you know fake tests or whatever get away with things workarounds get different whatever they need to take that won't be like traceable and stuff

so maybe it won't i just think five is like a very low number for out of season you nearly prefer more out of season testing rather than at semifinals and games because you can i don't know much about it hitter but i'm assuming you can like taper off far enough away to a semifinal that you could be clean at the semifinal but you could have been juiced in february yesterday i would have passed a drug test why did you say yesterday and action and maybe we'll do it next year at cedric sagetti hey dave thanks for your comments for the open at the time to ditch the specific layouts these can be quite difficult for gyms pending space etc i appreciate that quarters and semi finals might require more standardization for the three weeks is it really necessary great comment great point we are definitely taking a look at evaluating the necessity of those layouts he didn't say that from my comments so what's the question here like

hey can we have a little wiggle room for the layouts for the open you know they have the tape and shit and specific diameters or whatever can you get rid of that like last year the biggest thing was oh sorry go no no you go ahead go ahead it was the shuttle runs and i remember i tried to talk about what there was a person who put up their video for review and there's 50 athletes doing shuttle runs in a narrow corridor it's like which one is it um uh so so the expense thing was an excuse for the last 10 years i know it's valid but still here's the thing and dave has alluded to this a thousand times the games grew too fast the games grew too fast it was b they grew it fucking a million times faster go back and look at pro football or

basketball they didn't have the subsidies that this fucking sport had this sport fucking exploded onto the scene why is that because because the expectations are massive no they had no infrastructure no is that what you mean no we were able to grow something that couldn't pay for itself it's kind of like espn there's a book about the founders of ESPN. It's called ESPN. Those guys have all the fun or something. And that was 30 years of Getty money of just straight oil money being pumped into ESPN. That thing was a fucking complete disaster for its first 30 years. It was nothing but siphoning off cash. This idea that you could fucking play sports 24 hours a day on a network. But they had oil money, and this fucking sport had affiliate money. You have to remember all Greg was selling was a fucking IP. The CrossFit is not producing anything. People are just fucking dumping fucking cash to take a fucking L1 and put a sign on their door.

This thing was a – this thing is a cash cow. It's not selling M&Ms. on their door this thing was a this thing's a cash cow it's not selling m&ms and so um uh so so so just take just take that into um not yet they will have the crossfit m&m so just so you know take that into expense i understand i mean understanding that the excuse is valid and i and i know you weren't attacking allegra you're just giving perspective but i just wanted to add that on there okay here we go well perlin are there specific movements that you steer away from in competitions or qualifiers due to difficulty maintaining movement standards example i think push-ups are great for training but terrible for competitions i'm afraid i'm afraid deadlifting is trending that direction as well well for sure your example push-ups is a great

one we actually use it in the open once we've done it in the games a number of times, specifically with Murph. Push-ups is really hard to judge. So here's the deal. We did it in the Open, and then after the Open... He's saying, are there movements you don't use because they're too hard to judge? ...open, stop doing it, because it is incredibly hard to judge and standardize the range of motion visually, so a judge can make a good call. Also, but at the Games games a few years later even after

we had in the open we felt comfortable bringing it there because it was a way more controlled environment meaning we have a few hundred athletes or a hundred athletes that's 100 athletes on the individual side but in the open we have several hundred thousand so um doing the push-ups in the games with the more tighter with a tighter field and with our judges, we felt comfortable doing. Even then, it's still a really challenging movement to do at that level. So something like push-ups is definitely challenging. In regards to other movements, I steer away from the competitions. Like, look, I'm a purist. I'm an old school CrossFitter. So I bias towards, and I've said this in other weekend reviews or other platforms, the core concepts and the core principles of CrossFit

basically steer how I program and how I create the tests and how anyone who's creating a test We can reviews other platforms the core concepts and the core principles of CrossFit basically steer how I program and how I create the test and how anyone who's creating a test like this or programming like this to find the Fittest in the world should program and fundamentally we use movements that move large loads long distances and quickly And so when you break those aspects down movements that generate power high expression lot of the athletes to have high expressions of power Something like the Turkish get up doesn't move. It moves a relatively small load relative to what athletes can do a long distance. We'll give it that, but not quickly. So two of the three right there, it doesn't fulfill. Large loads? No. Long distance? Yes. Quickly? No.

So that's a movement I typically wouldn't use. Now, of course, you can apply that to a few other odd movements. Or like for an example, I'm not a huge fan of man makers. And it basically because it falls into that. It's not a large load. It's not a super long distance and it's not quickly. Now, here's the thing to that. There's still great training movements. There's still good things to do. I'm not against Turkish getups. I'm not against man makers. I'm just kind of against having them in competitions especially in a competition especially like the games where as

many events that we do have there's still super limited amounts of opportunity to have a wide variety of movements that are super impactful and what i mean by that is anytime we put something in like a turkish get up or a man maker to use as two examples, something else is being left out. Meaning maybe a snatch is being left out. Maybe a back squat is being left out. Maybe bar muscle ups. So movements that are effective at moving large loads, long distances and quickly. So there's a compromise.

And when you make that decision, something is out. And so that's why I bias more towards those core movements that being said there are always exceptions to the rules and there's always a reason to kind of break the mold and have something unique but definitely not too many of those or or not um not on a regular you know not like five movements like that like so if we if you end up seeing a Turkish get up in the games once then i'd really like to see everything else in that same year have more of the core concepts and the core movements supported uh so so the question is do you avoid using certain movements during uh for competition he says yes but and then he explains a bunch of different reasons one of the principal ones was the size of the competition you're not going to

use something like a push-up maybe in the open where you have fucking 100,000 judges and fucking 500,000 participants, and it's just going to get squirrely. But you might use it at the games where you can control it. You can still do MRF, and you can put more pressure on the judges and on the participants, and you can up the level of quality control. That being said, then he goes into some other shit, which I found fascinating. Thoughts on that? And I would love to see – I mean, me personally, I'd love to see a one rep max Turkish get up at the Games. Didn't they do that at Waterpalooza?

Like they did with the bag lift. Go ahead, Pedro. They did that at Waterpalooza like 10 years ago or 11 years ago or something. One rep max Turkish get up with a barbell. They posted it like a week ago. Like a throwback. I'd like to see it. It's on their page. You know Caleb, but it's on their instagram page um like the thing is if you start removing things

that are hard to judge then you narrow so much like what you can test i think of all the videos that hitters made most of the most of the videos that he's made are consistently hard to judge or hard not maybe not necessarily hard to judge but hard to do correctly um by the large population of people so like ring muscle ups are a thing you often see no rep videos on and they're all if you walk into a gym you'll often see someone like another thing that i consistently see on instagram is like wall walks you know like the moving the foot before the hand or moving the hand before the foot whatever every fucking time i see someone do a wall walk they do it like at least one incorrectly so if you start wiping out stuff like that like oh that's too hard to judge that's too hard to judge

deadlifts are too hard to judge the push-ups are too hard to judge like if you start removing everything you're really narrowing the possibility of movements for the open and i think as well as anything else you're taking hillary's father away from him where it's just like oh shit like there's nothing wrong to do that though do you think that i mean are you being critical of that like i think getting rid of this i think it's okay to get rid of it no i didn't leave the stuff oh leave it i didn't leave it and leave it up to like you need to improve the quality of standards in the affiliates and you need to like be harsh like i remember having a conversation with hillary about his house and he was like just ask why like just ask why are you letting that person away with that no rep or ask why is the person doing a not valid rep and like it just forces the person to

say like well shit i didn't realize i was doing it or well fuck you and then you have your answer either way like but i just think narrowing the field too much, just, I don't know, I'd rather see wall walks and watch a hitter video about it than never see wall walks in the open. Andrew, any thoughts on what Dave's saying? I think what's interesting is I think that the question was asked in the light of movement standards, and he started to go into the root of prescription

about why or why not they would be there and he brought up the large loads over long distances and how quickly and how much power you could get out of those movements and why a turkish get up wouldn't make any sense um because the only thing that accomplishes is perhaps a large load and the difference between that and a bunch of devlips is how much power you can get out of it and it kind of seemed like he didn't answer the question but he he gave an interesting response and i still want to know why he wouldn't be put push-ups in the open night and because he brought 2012 and he never really said why other than perhaps it's hard to judge but so is that is the reason that's the sole reason

a video of a deadlift today that's the sole reason though he said it andrew that's the sole reason that no push-ups in the open i mean i'm i'm being hyperbolic here but no push-ups in the open because they're hard to judge and we don't we can't we don't want to deal with a hundred thousand different uh variations on it with a hundred thousand different judges but at the at the games, even though it's hard to judge, with fewer judges and fewer athletes, we think we can do it. I mean, that was the answer he gave. How about what Pedro just said, though? Because if you got rid of push-ups, you should get rid of deadlifts,

and you probably should also get rid of power cleans because I just saw a bunch of power cleans at the Rogue Invitational where there are judges right there and they weren't reps. Well, do you think that those are all equally hard to judge? That what it would come down to if you want to use dave's criteria do you think that in the order of power clean deadlift and air squat are they all which one's the hardest to judge or do you think they're all equally hard to judge or equally easy to judge because there was a point in time where the power clean was easy to judge and now the athletes are all in the bar fly off of their shoulders before they hit hip extension.

And their elbows are behind the bar before they've hit hip extension because they're so proficient at it. And they're trying to get to the next rep as fast as possible. And they watched Froning do singles for years. So they're all doing singles. But you just got to be firm about what a pushup is. And then you got to be ready to dish out the penalties, which they don't do in the open

right or in the quarterfinals and i and i suppose like everyone's getting away with power cleans now which we saw at rogue and then not everyone i would say probably a third of the athletes were doing repetitions that weren't finished and then the deadlift a games athlete today sent me a video of another games athlete doing deadlifts i love it i'm like this is great um uh sleaky tdc uses a lot of words and still never fully answers the question i think he fully answered it here's the thing he's not here's the thing i think first of all there's there's a secrecy behind what he's he's not gonna say hey we're never gonna do push-ups i think he answered the question very clearly i think he basically said hey here's some of the here's the criteria we use could there be exceptions yes but he's not

going to be like he's not going to be like hey these are the eight fucking moves that you're going to always see in the open he answered the question specifically and then he then after that he went off on a tangent about the the why behind choosing specific movements but he did say at the start big field hard to judge small field at the start, big field, hard to judge, small field at the games, maybe. That was basically what he said. Yeah. And whether you like,

I'm not saying whether you like the answer or not, it's right. I mean, Hiller's saying that he's like, where do you stop with that? But you still got an answer. Don't you think, Hiller? What? We got an answer. I think we got an answer. It's just more long-winded than we're used to from him.

Anyway, I like the tangent, too. I never thought of the Turkish getup like that. But, okay. Here we go. So that's my thoughts on that topic. Oh, I do not like a plastic bottle Topo Chico. Fuck. Hey, this dude drinks so much water.

You end with saying, I'm afraid deadlifting is trending in that direction as well. I don't know if it is. I don't... I still think it's an appropriate movement for competition it is challenging especially with people still being leaned forward over the bar um so it's definitely worth one that we are looking at and considering at the individual competitions where you have a they call it a more experienced judge i think it's fine it's still there's still

some issue there but i think it's still okay to have lightweight deadlift is really where it becomes lightweight but it's repping out so fast heavier deadlifts typically aren't repped out as quickly so uh yeah i think i was going to bring that up earlier i think speed's also a problem i think a lot of us who aren't games athletes don't realize how fucking fast the top one percent are moving and that it really does make judging uh a different a different i don't know a different sport sport of its own. I don't think Dave realizes that the world watches them move that fast

not getting no reps so everyone tries to get away with it. Yeah. Fair. I think Dave probably realizes that but he's not saying it. I understood what you meant, yeah. Good question. I enjoyed that one. I don't believe that. He's fucking said that to the one. Tyler. I don't believe that.

He's fucking said that to the last two questions. And he didn't say what he's that he enjoys the question. He didn't enjoy any questions. If he says it after the next question, I swear to fuck RS. Dave, how do you manage your professional duties and CrossFit leadership intersecting with your personal personal relationships with folks such as

seven? Great question. Oh shit. Who asked that? He didn't. No, he did say Great question. Oh, shit. Who asked that? He didn't. No, he did say go back. That is such a fucking... Are you fucking kidding me?

He talks a lot about this. What are the fucking implications that you would be friends with me that would be a problem, you fucking scumbag? Who asked that? God, I hope this isn't someone I like. Tyler Chingaris. Daveave how do you manage your professional duties is that a chinese dude tyler chingaris tyler watkins oh is it watching no it's not it's not it's not in crossfit leadership intersecting with your personal personal

relationships with folks such as sam what the fuck does that mean just listen he's not allowed to interact with guys who have fucking monster coke bottle dongs yeah this coke bottle dong top that's what i named this someone has been a friend for almost a couple decades now for like as long as i've not as long as i've worked across it but for very long i mean i met him during the uh second games so around that time frame and we've been friends since then we've been close friends since then um obviously with the changes of leadership a few years ago he lost his job with crossfit he went and did his own thing actually didn't do anything for a while um still close friend with and then then he started doing his i can't believe our friendship survived that why i mean because

our friendship was around crossfit and so when i didn't um when i didn't work at crossfit i seriously thought well like why would I ever fucking call him again? Why would he call me? Like, I don't want to fucking talk to you. We don't talk about parenting or football or we don't like any of that. I don't do shooting. I'm a fucking dirt twirler. He's a fucking farmer, Mexican farmer.

He's a ranchero. Hey, man, I believe you. But we ended up, we stayed friends. We still called and just talked for an hour every day what you told me once we wouldn't even be friends if i didn't make youtube videos yeah probably not we wouldn't have anything to talk about and i go well now we got football now i'm a chicago bears fan it's all fucked up our relationship's taking a weird turn podcast still a close friend with him and it's just separate. I'm friends with him and then I have my CrossFit job,

but I don't, I'm not going to compromise my friendship just over, or I'm not going to say, hey, I can't be your friend. Although he takes jabs at us sometimes, although he's doing a podcast about CrossFit at this point, I don't think he's done anything that I would feel like, I can't be a friend of him. What would feel like, Hey dude, I can't be a friend of him. What would that look like him directly coming after me? Hey, that wouldn't be what I'd expect out of a friend. And he doesn't do that. And there's a line he could cross with CrossFit where I'd be like, dude, what the fuck are you saying that for? What are you doing? I've actually done that a few times. I will say. Yeah, he has. If he watched more of my podcast,

he'd probably do it to me every day. Like slap me around every day. I want to tell you guys something. I said it in the last show. For those of you who know, there's nothing Dave could do to break my trust. Like he could steal my car and tell me he didn't do it. And then I see him driving around and I would still trust him. There's something. My parents, my mom and dad taught me to love everybody. That was like the essence of my fucking raising.

To fucking treat people how you want to be treated. And I really want to be treated with love. And I just love – one of my favorite pastimes is loving people. Then Dave came along, and Dave unfucked me, and he taught me something called integrity. You can't love someone at the cost of your integrity. And I had to rework what it meant to love someone, what it meant to be nice to someone. I'm not one of these people that's like, hey, you don't have to love everyone. Yeah, for me, I do. I do have to find a way. I'm pure. I'm my best seven when I love everybody.

And so even people I don't like, I'm like, fuck, how am I going to fucking squeeze them into the love bubble? But what Dave taught me, you have to understand this, at fucking 40 years old or 45 years old, 35 years old, whenever the fuck. He started teaching about integrity. Integrity means when you don't lie. Greedy means when you don't lie. When you don't kind of pinch. And my wife was always trying to teach me that, but it didn't sink in until Dave. Because nice people are lying motherfuckers.

Lying, lying motherfuckers. I need to clip that. Travis B., Seve, you literally load this show up every day and talk shit and shit talk randos well that's the other thing that's the thing you don't understand you have to shit that you think maybe is me shit talking is is not shit like i wouldn't think if someone was saying that about me is shit talking that's why it's very hard to hang in our thread that's why most people fucking run with their tail between their legs i I mean, I fucking ass pounded fucking Pedro the other day for talking to those guys about his fucking assault bike. He was talking to some of the fittest people in the world about their assault bike, about how he rides the assault bike.

You know what I did today? I talked to the guy who's the best guy in the fucking world on the assault bike, and I told him my assault bike things. I want Pedro for being a dipshit. I thought about that when you were wait you were you were criticizing me so uh listen listen you just be you just be chill about me okay anyway this is fucking this is nuts though like there's something uh wrong with my. Let me continue here. I'll say this, though. My friendship with him is beneficial to CrossFit for those two reasons I just said.

A, he doesn't take as many shots at me as he could because of that, and he'll be the first to admit that, and I'll fucking say it. And B, he definitely tones down how he comes after CrossFit because of our friendship. tones down how he comes after CrossFit because of our friendship. And there's been multiple times where he said, hey, dude, did you know this about that person? Or, hey, dude, did you know you guys did this? And I'm like, hey, dude, just chill the fuck out. Don't come at us with that or don't come after that person because that'll make it really difficult for me

and it'll make it really difficult for our relationship. So, yeah, that's how I deal with it. And, you know, there is a point like we're really close friends but he that is he could jeopardize our friendship and our relationship that is 100 true of what he said if if i say something to him and he says don't talk about that publicly i will not that's 100 true i've told you guys that from the beginning if he if he if he told me to shut my mouth i would shut my mouth and um it's something he didn't tell you well that's why i gotta be sometimes i'm like fuck do i tell dave i know this because i want to go public with it and i'm

afraid he's gonna tell me not to see him telling you something and being like don't talk about this but what if it's something you heard from like five other people uh so then so then i'll tell i'll say that to him too i'll be like dude i got like this source this source this source and this source um he has he is very um tight-lipped to me about crossfit whereas before he he was not like two two you know two years ago we would have spoken more freely and now he's not now he's more just like a sounding board for me but um and i think what he's about to say is i could go too far and jeopardize our friendship he could not do that to me there's no way uh cave dastro do you love the lone ranger that's a tonto andy stomp uh tia makes wads great again first of all you can't even put um uh tia doesn't belong Lone Ranger, that's Tonto, Andy, Stumpf, Tia, MakesWadsGreatAgain.

First of all, you can't even put Tia in that group at all. I fucking love Tia. Yeah, I totally love Tia. MakesWadsGreatAgain guy and Stumpf and Andy and the Lone Ranger and Tonto, although they've said stuff about me, I promise you that none of you fucking would tolerate anyone saying to you about i have fucking kids and the thought of someone hurting one of my kids versus what those guys have ever done to me they don't even rank like i would fucking i would love i but

i would love to fucking a hot tub naked with the lone r Ranger, Tonto, Andy, and John Wooley. It would be my pleasure to drink with them and shoot the shit with them. You know what I mean? If you mention a Coke bottle dick again during this segment. There'll be no Coke bottle dicks in that segment. When you say I hate them,

I don't hate any of those guys. But they've said some shit about me to people that's fucking crazy. You don't say about anyone unless you had first-hand witnessing of it. But I shouldn't even lump Andy up. I shouldn't even lump Andy in there with that. Andy and I just fall on opposite sides of the fence. I don't have any, like, I don't have any like i don't have any like

but but i know i don't hate i don't hate any of those guys what's interesting as well as i've had like not loads but a lot of people have said oh how can you be like friends with savannah how can you be friends with hitter they're this they're that they're whatever like you know a long list of like assumptions or whatever um but like the thing you're talking about there with the integrity, what the fuck? The thing you're talking about there with the integrity. I'm tripping. Do you see two Hillers?

Did you see two Hillers? No, I didn't see two yet. Four. I am. The thing you're talking about there with the integrity and stuff. I asked. So sometimes I ask people advice, not like knowing the answer I'm going to get like i'll

show something to my wife and i know she'll say oh yeah that's great like it could be dog shit but she's just supportive like that's the way she's supportive and a couple of my friends as well but i know if i say something in that group i know if i ask hillar or if i ask you uh if i if i get a response it'll be the absolute truth and it might be hard to stomach and it might not be what i want to hear but it'll make things better and it's like trustworthy because it's not out of a place of vindictivism or whatever it's not and you're not saying it to better yourself or to worsen me you're saying it to better everyone and it's like people get this misconstrued but like that harshness has to be negative

or it has to be just criticism instead of it being constructive or instead of it being helpful, it has to be through hatred or through like negativity. Like just because they're not used to getting that kind of feedback. They don't have those kinds of relationships where someone can say,

that's actually not your best work. That's actually kind of shit. You should have done this. They just, there used to be people patting on the back saying, good job kind of shit. You should have done this. They just, there used to be people patting on the back saying, good job, little buddy. And let me say this, Pedro. There's a depth to people,

a different depth to people to where there's pussies and there's not pussies. Fucking Hiller's mom died when he's a fucking kid. There's a depth to him that the rest of you motherfuckers haven't had to deal with. I filmed fucking kids dying on three different continents.

I filmed fucking starving kids for fucking two years amongst many other things there's a depth to me that many of these motherfuckers don't have so things that fucking hurt your feelings don't fucking hurt my feelings because there's a depth to me and a realism to me that some fuckers don't have i got it i still my toe yes then you don't hear me going on about it but you what say i still my toe you know yeah so and by the way hillar's never cried to me about that he's never been like i'm just telling you what say i stubbed my toe you know yeah so and by the way hillar's never cried to me about that he's never been like i'm just telling you what i just know about human human human human human are you stuck uh thank you uh um uh um uh interactions no character yeah character just how

we work as as machines like when i heard that when i heard uh yeah exactly logan my mother will never yeah exactly so um yeah so so things that like there's nothing that fucking there's nothing that any one of those people you mentioned can do to me as long as my kids are healthy that would make me hate them like that is what i um there's people in that list who fucking maybe cost me a million dollars they don't even fucking know it but but it doesn't matter compared to like my like my kid won a tennis tournament yesterday dominated against asian kids fuck no it's hard to believe. You know that NoRepNews Instagram page? I can see

a post tomorrow saying the Lone Ranger burns down Savant's house to test his theory about his kids. He didn't hurt his kids. And if it does say that, I know it's your account. I'm hoping he makes it. Or she.

They. Okay. Anyone want to say anything anything you want to say anything on behalf of your mom Hiller no not really alright specific lines I don't think he wants to do that I don't are you fucking kidding me Asians aren't

great at 10 you're out of your fucking mind yeah they're shit at maths too yeah thank you thank you that was sarcasm here we go aren't great at tennis. Oh, you're out of your fucking mind. Yeah, they're shit at maths too. Oh, yeah. Thank you. Thank you. That was sarcasm. Here we go. I want to continue to be able to be his friend. And I don't want anybody in CrossFit to have to say hey, and nobody has, to have to say hey, you can't be his friend anymore. Because that would put me in a really

weird position. That would put us both in a weird position. God, I hope that happens. Stop drinking out of plastic. Such a fucking great water. What did you say, Taylor? I hope that CrossFit tells him that he can't be with you anymore what would you have done if when when he read out that question if he was just like i'm not talking about that piece of shit i'm just like that hurt no no i'm telling you, the lessons he's taught me, it was what I needed, the missing piece I needed to love people. To my fullest, without compromising myself.

TDC, you used to be able to go on main site and search for physicians who had their level one. For some reason, the search only shows affiliates now. Will this not be offered any longer? Looking into it, I think it's a really cool value add. I think it's good for our community to be able to know where there's like-minded doctors, doctors who think the way we do in your local area that you can find and get care from without going to someone who doesn't know anything about CrossFit or might think it's dangerous or might not understand it. I don't know. There's a lot of tech changes going on on our platforms and constantly testing new things and evolving.

There might be downstream a plan to have it back. Definitely something I think we should have. So I'll look into that. I was stuck in my head. So what happened to the physicians? Why can't you find it? They took it off the website and he's saying, can we bring it back? And he's saying, yeah, there's some value in that. We might bring it back. Some value. I don't want anyone holding my Coke bottle unless they have a fucking L1. Fuck the Coke bottle. What did he say, Hiller? What was the reason you gave?

I was trapped in my head thinking about some other shit. He didn't actually say why it was gone. He just said we should bring it back. He was the foodie talking. Yeah, it's a great value add to our website. The last time I heard that was straight out of an NBA mouth. Jesus. Jesus. No.

Seve, is TDC's public face different than his private personality? No. But it's got a greater range. He'll be the first to tell you he compartmentalizes his life, where I don't. You know what i mean like he has um but but it is the same person that operates both of them but but it is you know what i mean he doesn't put on like he doesn't at the ranch he doesn't only speak spanish and like wear a cowboy hat he speaks i don't know if he does do i or does he him no but what's crazy is all his neighbors like don't

speak english they only speak spanish they're like real rancheros they have like bulls and it's crazy so but and he hangs out with those guys a lot it's a trip so they they kind of they have to i mean he must speak some spanish and they speak some english okay here we go the la maruoo. Keto is a fad. What? 4.4. 4.0 speed from here on out. Oh, really? Keto is a fad?

I'm pretty sure the whole rest of the video until like 20 minutes. It's going to help your life. 4.0 speed. So, cool. That's your opinion. Not mine. I don't care what you think about it.

I'm seeing results from it. Frank? That doesn't even make sense. Keto is a fad. That's like saying eating is a fad. You mean a't even make sense keto keto is a fad that's like saying eating's a fad you mean a certain way of kind of eating's a fad i was told the other day that i well someone said about me that i have an eating disorder because i'm eating meat and fruit it's just like okay hey hey there's a lot of yes i have an eating disorder too because um sometimes i don't eat so i fit in my clothes better guys i went down a rabbit hole the other day about that i think i was on the phone with you saffron though fitness

in a hundred words after it says eat meat and vegetables nothing seeds little starch or some fruit no sugar it says eat levels that will allow you to exercise but no more and then i thought how a foundational level that statement is what people will claim of everyone with an eating disorder and i actually think it was jr on your show said that he was accused of having an eating disorder because he didn't tell your pizza and the next day work out three times as much which is exactly what as you should do oh if you eat you do it for exercise and no more don't like but not body fat yeah it's probably an eating disorder when you do it and then like punish yourself you know like if you do it as like self-masochism it's like oh no but that that would be the eating disorder side of it wouldn't it like

doing it as a punishment rather than well i ate that pizza i'm gonna put it to use tomorrow like waking up being like i'm such a piece of shit i well, I ate that pizza. I'm going to put it to use tomorrow. Like waking up being like, I'm such a piece of shit. I ate a pizza. I'm going to like do a thousand burpees and cry. I think like the prescription of ADD medication, there are people who need it. And then there's 95% of people who say, Oh, I have an eating disorder. You have one and it's just wrong. I think it's common sense

I don't know what it's like not to have an eating disorder So I don't know what it's like not to have Yeah I clearly fucking have an eating disorder Meaning it's not Food's not casual for me I'm not like Food's not casual for me

It's always an intense experience that I fucking enjoy. It's like sex. It's like fucking food's cool. You fuck your watermelons? I haven't. But I accept that and there's nothing heavy around it for me.

Probably because it hasn't caused me any health issues. But also, I accept the fact that 300 years ago or fucking whenever that it's a relatively new idea that there's this abundance of food and that as humans as a species we're just fucking like figuring it out i accept my eating my my all the maybe you don't call it eating disorder maybe it's it means um a thoughtful uh thoughtfulness around eating there's a lot of thought around my eating i don't it's none of it is just like you know what i mean none of it's just like hey there's an apple tree let's eat apples i mean some of it is but there it is would you say that you would you say eating's not casual for you either, for either of you guys, right?

I mean, it's like serious. When it's casual for me, it's a fucking shit show. The last 30 years have been casual. Right. Just like eating ice cream out of the carton and shit and cereal and just whatever, right? Yeah, just like hungry eat. When's the last time you put something into your mouth

and hold back on that sexual thought you're going to have and didn't think about what it was doing to you as a human? Food-wise. Fucking 10 years, 20 years. Yeah. When I started doing the meat and fruit. Really? Oh, okay. It's like even if you eat pizza, you're like, all right, this isn't the greatest.

And if you have a protein shake, you're doing it for a reason. If you have sugar, you're doing it for a reason at this point and it's because of that statement in fitness in 100 words is that true no but but i like it logan mars if someone eats too many pieces of white bread, it will go to his nose. I wasn't allowed to eat white bread as a kid. And when I went away to college, I got white bread, mayonnaise, bologna, and cheese.

And I just ate sandwiches for like a month like that because I wasn't allowed to eat that as a kid. Go ahead, Pedro. I realized yesterday that you and... Fuck, what the fuck is his name? 1990s Richard Gere are the same person oh yeah yeah yeah like incredibly alike looking

the movie came on TV and I was like fuck that looks really like Savan and then I was like oh shit that's Richard Gere you don't look like him now you look nothing like him and you now but him in the 90s put a man bun on his head I loved his wife back then too. What was her name? I talked about her this morning.

Julia Roberts? No, that was in a movie. Pretty woman. She was a model with a wart. Yeah, look, 1990s. Look, that picture on the far right. If you put a man bun on that magazine cover. I'm like Dustin Hoffman and Richard Gere had a baby. John Travolta and Sylvester Stallone

added some semen in the pile too. God, what was his model wife's name? There she is on the bottom left. Cindy Crawford. God damn. I was a little boy infatuated with her. Crawford, thank you, Adam. Jesus Christ.

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Book with your local travel agent or sunwing.ca Logan Marsh, didn't Richard Gere put a hamster in his anus? I mean, I think it was a gerbil was the joke. I mean, that was the joke. Never been with a hooker, ever. Never had a one-night stand. Are we done listening to Dave talk about keto? I think he'll let...

He's asked what's his daily eating like. And then it's like 10 minutes of that night. How do you guys feel about keto? Especially the 24th because I fast so much. I'm doing drills. I'm doing really hard land navigation. You're up for the entire time. You have a 35-pound pack on, and you're moving the entire time in the morning.

We went to the mart. I didn't have one thing to eat through the entire race. Oh, yeah. This is interesting. Did you hear the part about the race? mark and didn't have one thing to eat through the entire race and felt great oh yeah this is this is interesting did you hear the part about the race he told me he was going to do that he did a 36 hour uh race uh using land navigation and nighttime hiking and all that shit the only thing i found particularly interesting about it was that he had like what sounded like the greasiest burger ever before he did it like i definitely would have shit myself if i had food that greasy before doing

a really long insurance thing let's go to 20 and let's and let's do the last three minutes my body is feeling off the fat i knew i was fat adapted into the race and that my body was feeling effectively off of my fat reserves and i I knew I would be, was able to do that. And I wanted to see how long it could go without affecting the performance. It's like an experiment. I enjoy challenging myself and experimenting that way. And it worked out great and being fat adapted, which you just can't cut carbs and try something like that. So I don't recommend this. Don't do this. You have to put in, unless you put in the work to build foundation to be able to do that. So I don't recommend trying this unless you put in a lot of time and effort into actually reducing your carbs lowering your insulin insulin levels reducing your glycogen there's something i

probably shouldn't say but there's something you have to and it's not a big deal to you guys but probably probably be a big deal to dave because he's so private dave's wife is a world-class chef like she's the best cook and i've known a shitload of amazing cooks especially in my family she is an amazing cook and and she loves cooking so he can do anything he wants he could be like um honey uh can you just make me hamburgers with three percent fat for the next seven days and he'll get that like he he can do whatever he can she can do anything only he can do whatever. She can do anything. Anytime I've been to her house, everything is homemade. Homemade pizzas, pies, cakes, shish kebabs. Like everything is like it's crazy.

Dave sounds like a chipmunk. Pardon me? Did you just say that you eat pizza and cake? Dave sounds like a chipmunk because I'm playing him at 1.5 speed, eating beaver. Yeah, I went over there with my kids a few months ago, and his wife had this. She had the pizza oven, everything, all the makings, the dough, and she let my kids make the pizza. But she had all the shit there. It was nuts.

It was so cool. My dad, his parents grew up owning a pizza place he makes he used to make pizza found out when i was like 10 it was so weird it was yeah not a big pizza i did it for like 10 years um uh katie uh ketosis in katie kanshu ketosis in animals is considered a medical emergency, so why would people want to be in ketosis? She likes that walk. Is she a veterinarian? She does like that walk.

Anyone want to field the animal? Animals in ketosis, cats only eat meat. That's what I was going to say. I knew a couple of dogs that only ate lamb. Yeah, the fastest way to fuck your cat up is feed it something besides meat. Here we go. Getting to a place where it's easy for you to kick into being fat adapted and feeling off of ketones. So it worked great for me.

That great experiment. I probably won't ever do it again. When I do that race next year, I'll probably eat. But I just wanted to experiment and see how it would work and if I could do it, no issue worked great. So super cool story. Excited to share that. Probably do another video just on that race and just on that topic. Drink a lot of water and drink actually not even a lot. I drank water. I drank and drank element. So element sodium replacement has magnesium too.

And also wait, he drank element. What's element elementy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like that stuff stuff that's really weird that he said that why you don't know why because he wouldn't talk about it unless crossfit gave it to him no anyone want to guess is there a different sponsor or something? No. Nope. Anyone? Can I figure it out if you gave me long enough? Yep.

Is that what Element is? L-M-N-T? That's what he drank? I think so, yeah. Does it bring you out of ketosis? Because it's salt and potassium. TDC claims to not watch your show, but he definitely does. I don't think he does. I think he would tell me.

Bruce Wayne, LMNT. Oh, here we go. Here we go. I wouldn't have come up with that answer to answer that question from a second ago. There we go. Look at these motherfuckers know their crossfit shit god i want to have my own lmnt brand because oh here we go uh rob wolf and dave are bffs uh nelly there we go sleeky knows y Does he Sleeky, do you think he's

throwing him an olive branch or he doesn't know or what the fuck's going on? I can't even believe he just said that, to be honest with you. Doesn't know or doesn't care maybe? I'm sure he doesn't know. Okay. Anybody who's hitting on LMNT you're just jealous.

You'll find out if he watches the show after that. I really want my own LMNT just jealous that you're gonna find out if he watches the show after that i re i really i really want my own um lmnt company i want i want to i could so get that's like the only supplement like i could really really really like three liters of element over the course of the race and probably nine liters total of water so didn't finish as i wanted as high as we wanted to made some tactical errors call it but really happy with how that played out a couple other points and we'll wrap up this is actually a long one sorry about that he's sorry about that this is a long one i'm sorry too i got to do a couple ideas so i've

heard a few places and i've talked to i've talked to rich about this now i talked to craig howard a few people talk to me about the affiliate cup and that the games doesn't feel like it's really putting it's not about affiliates anymore i still think it is when i look across the floor and everyone's there's a lot of affiliates there are some teams that are still affiliate teams that have with the rules have had people um come to their gyms but they're still working out at a gym there's still call it following the rule to get to the games it's a super team yes but i don't think it's just a competition full of super teams. If anyone has ideas on how to, in their mind,

any affiliate owner specifically, make it more Affiliate Cup-like for them, please email me those ideas. Wait, why wouldn't it be the Affiliate Cup? Don't the team... What are the rules to be on a team at the games? You've got to be within 100 miles. You've got to be the open at the Affiliate. That was it.

That's it? Yeah. You have to be there for the open on quarterfinals, isn't it? I don't think the quarterfinals were. I think it was just the three open workouts. You had to be in the affiliate doing them. Nice. I wouldn't be surprised about the quarterfinal thing,

but I'm 80% certain it was just the open. I don't think this is true what dan's saying ketosis in cow oh sorry sorry sorry dan sorry uh ketosis in cows refers to a negative energy balance energy expenditure is greater than intake perhaps it's the same for all other animals nothing at all to do with fat adaptation i always thought i my understanding of ketosis and not for cows but for humans was when your body takes fat when you're basically your mitochondria are taking burning ketones instead of sugars and they get those ketones from fat and as long if there's a shortage of glucose in the bloodstream that your mitochondria basically will start burning um switch to a ketone

factory and then when it does that then you're in what's called ketosis but i've never been inside the body this is just shit people tell me and i've read you haven't seen the magic school bus no i haven't seen any mitochondria or nothing i don't even know if they really exist i'm just telling you like what the what the magic school bus could be in you right now I don't even know if they really exist. I'm just telling you what the... The Magiskill bus could be in you right now, you wouldn't even know it. You're damn right. Is that what your understanding of ketosis is, you guys? I don't know a fucking thing about it.

Oh. Hiller, where are you? My other house. Oh. You don't got multiple houses? No, I didn't know that. You weren't in Florida? You never asked.

No. Is this the reason why Dave can't be, people think he shouldn't be friends with me? Because Brandon LeCocq, that's his real name, Brandon LeCocq, because on this show, he gave away fucking free tickets. Savon, I need to know how to get black cock between your gym mats.

Cock. A tap is not cutting it. I just squirt it in there. I just get a tube of black cock and put it in the cocking gun and snip the top off and squeeze it in there. And it's good. The black caulk is good. I love the black caulk.

You just grab it and drag it over the tiles? Yeah. Now, I will tell you this. I do feel guilty because I usually just use, I'll use the black caulk. And even if there's a lot of like fucking miles still left in it, I threw it away. And then I just get a new one. I don't like save it. I don't like to put like a nail in it

Or screw in it and clog the tip And then like You don't do that either, huh? If I need another one I just go to Home Depot and get another one Really? Like that shit laying around They're cheap

Oh, really? That's how much a big tube of the black caulk costs? Yeah, it's not bad You really put your mats together with that? Not together But like I don't I wedge them all in together and then over time if there's some spacing i just smush put black caulk what would you do nothing

push them back together oh the ones on the end are glued down you've seen my garage move the horse mats they don't move oh and if you put on them, you're a psychopath taping your freaking mats together. Dan, I know about black cock because I'm a dairy farmer. Oh, no, sorry. I know about ketosis because I'm a dairy farmer. That's why I know about cows. Fair. Oh, damn.

Look at this one. You ever drink milk right out of the tit? I hate to say it. TDC defends the goons more than you, Sevan Defend it Oh, that hurts me I think it's funny I just don't think it's true

I don't need Hey, listen to me You know why? Let me tell you something You don't need defending? I don't need defending And Dave knows that That would be a fucking insult

No one ever needs to fucking defend me All of you go over onto Reddit need defending i don't need defending and dave knows that that would be a fucking insult no one ever needs to fucking defend me all of you go over onto reddit and tell everyone how great you really think i am you don't ever have to defend me just be fucking honest he's cool as shit thank you note from get with the programming only lay your stall mats in the winter so all of you who open your affiliates in the summer keep the floor empty until the winter or move your gym to Ireland and then you can just do it anytime of year cold

some fucking advanced shit I defend you all the time I'm fine, okay, I need a little defending Dan Guerrero. Apparently Dave lost it on Rob Wolf. Tell us the deets. I mean, I've told you all sorts of deets about it.

I mean, you're addicted to the show, Dan. I have an eating disorder. You have a fucking Savon podcast addiction. You know the deets. Remember when he kicked him out of the game when Greg invited him there? Okay, here we go. Last thing I want to add,

the guest programming we do on the gates gate main site this week dale king is the guest programmer and check it out dale's an affiliate owner has a great story has had some mainstream media attention i think someone said dale special for with special forces i didn't know that i thought he was a marine someone said he's special intelligence or something yeah probably not allowed to talk about that a documentary called small town strong that he did where he uses affiliate to help people with their addiction train at their gym and change their lives so dale king's doing great things in the community he's not like a big name athlete but he's making a profound impact on a lot of people's lives so check out dale king is making a profound impact on a fucking shitload of people's

lives and my only criticism dale dave dave castros you should have put that in the very beginning of the show oh at least before the keto stuff. Look it. I got a blowjob and I'm like, do you think 10 o'clock at night's really the time to suck my dick? I really would have enjoyed it at 8. You bitch. What a fucking

asshole I am. His programming, his main site programming, he's programming for the main site for the next two weeks and I'm really excited to have him on board. If you hung out this long and watched us all for the entire 22 minutes, thanks for watching, and talk to you guys soon. If you're one of the 268 live viewers on the Zephon podcast, you made it through an hour of it, thanks as well.

How long before you report me to Google for ripping off his shit every week. That's not what I was going to say. I'm surprised you haven't gotten a slap on the wrist yet. I'm surprised CrossFit told him to stop doing that. Oh, God. Your connection sucks.

I take back all the nice things I've ever said about your camera work and your connection. I take back all the nice things i've ever said about your camera work and your connection i retract them all fucking how the fuck can he not have a good connection but you're on a fucking island out in the middle of the fucking atlantic and your fucking money yeah even with that head and even with that indian head movement you just did um yeah wow holy shit i can't do that either my dad's from pakistan and i'm black yeah hey can you do this you know how indian people shake their head like this oh yeah damn oh god i didn't like that i got that made me sick that's the coolest thing about when you go to india the way they all move their heads it's a trip they all do that i have seen it before they all do like um bobbleheads in the back of a car i would do it again but it made me kind of dizzy

isn't it like a isn't like it is the way like a black girl talks to you in the ghetto like what's the word she says she would say um uh oh no you didn't isn't the head movement thing in india isn't it like some kind of uh fucking like a submissive body language thing like a non-threatening body language very attractive when girls do it it's very attractive maybe that's why you like it it's like for everyone like you that you think so i mean i think you would think so too i mean indian women are so fucking hot anyway like you go there and you just it's just giant souls looking at you dude my kid played tennis with this fucking uh probably 12 year old five foot indian boy yesterday and his fucking eyes were the most beautiful eyes I'd ever seen on a human.

I can't tell. Indian people are amazing looking. You go to, there's a whole country full of them and their skin's all perfect and shit. There's no fat. Oh, it's fucking amazing. It's a,

it's such a crazy experiment. If you're, if you're from the United States and you go somewhere like China or India or, or the African continent, you won't even believe what you see. No, Ireland is in India. Dude, Ireland is like it was like San Francisco

20 years ago. Have you been here? Yeah, of course. I've been everywhere, dude. But there's just a lot of drunk people. Uh-huh. And the boys fight a lot. boy it's a little it's a it's a there's a lot of fighting there hey did you know how different ireland is to america mono emano fighting though not so much guns but you guys beat each other up and stab each other and shit i was i was dropping my daughter off to like dancing and singing and stuff later on and i parked in a car park and i

was like oh man my son is so like hard to get out of the car like bring and bring back so i was like fuck it i'll leave him in the car i'll put music playing from on my phone on the radio in the car i'll go and i'll come back and i was 100 confident everything would be where i left it when i got back like if i was in america filling up my car, someone could steal it. Whereas like here, it's like all that shit is safe.

I'm fine. I can walk two minutes away and walk back two minutes and he'll still be here. Happy as Larry phone will still be there. Cars still at the keys. Well, just so you know, it's only certain areas.

It's very small areas, but it's very like, that's only 10% of the country, but they're the most popular 10% areas. But fuck dude, you're so right. It's fucking like it's third world is a motherfucker in our big cities now it's like south america and shit like people just reach into your pocket and take your shit now like there's a murder trial on at the minute right and it's there's a murder trial on at the minute it's getting like news like headlines and stuff right now yeah it's like the front page of every

paper like every news bulletin has like updates on it and i guarantee if this happened in america people would be like all right and just like move on because it'd be another one 20 minutes later but it's like we're so sheltered like it's unbelievable dude so imagine this you're irish right trend and that's a that's a country full of fucking bunch of inbred white people, right? Like Iceland. Yeah, the percentage of what you said is correct. Yeah, go on. Yeah, and so the attorney general of our second most fucking populous state in the fucking union just said the most fucking racist thing that's been said in this fucking country in fucking 80 years publicly. She said that fucking Trump is too male and too pale.

And she started a chant. She started a chant for the crowd. Imagine doing that in Ireland. She just shit on your whole fucking country. You're the most pale motherfuckers I've ever seen. Your country is too male and too pale. Imagine if someone went to China and was like,

your eyes are too slanted and your penises are too small. You could say the penis thing about Trump too, I'm guessing. The irony is people hated him when he was born. Oh, great, Hillary. You're breaking up.

What? The irony is people hated him when he was here, and then I didn't hear the rest. Oh, the irony is that he tried to tan too, and people hated him for being orange. Oh, his orange shit is crazy. Tyler, at least it rhymes. Well, she actually went on to say, the attorney general went on to say, too pale, too male, too stale. She should have stopped at too male, too pale. She shouldn't have said stale, but I mean, just anyway.

It's fucking nuts. Coffee, pale, or male. Well, Dems are the party of racism, so there's that. I just can't believe it's fucking They're gonna come after everyone by the way people Like don't think oh well that's great I hate white people You're missing the point

The big picture is eventually they'll come after Chinese people and black people And they don't care if you're a woman or a man It's all the same shit You don't want people Dude we had a guy in this country You know who Martin Luther King is Pedro? Yeah We had this guy in this country you know who martin luther king is pedro yeah we had this guy in this country who's a fucking hero we're all fucking taught to love him from the second we go to kindergarten till we graduate from high school wouldn't you say that's fair hillar yeah yeah we are here too we're oh yeah and his whole thing is don't judge

people by the fucking color of their skin judging by their character. Okay. The Attorney General of fucking New York is saying judge this motherfucker by his dick, by his dick, by his penis, and by the color of his skin. Those are the two criteria she's asking you to judge him by. You could never say that

motherfucker is too eye slanted and dick's too small. You could never say that motherfucker is too eye slanted and dick's too small you couldn't say that motherfucking Armenian's too short judge a man by his height and the fact that he has six inches of foreskin like you just can't say that but she can somehow say it about Pedro's entire country

we're fucked people don't stand up against that shit anyway I digress it It was a fantastic weekend review. Sorry. It's kind of like Spiegel told me my legs were small.

Alright, Stefan, let's lighten the mood and read my comment above about Pedro. Okay, yeah, sorry. Here we go. Dammit, Hiller. No, not that one. Is there an earlier one? I like usually what Wadzombie says. Chase, not that one. Is there an earlier one? I like what Wad Zombie says. Chase, big game season announcement coming Wednesday.

If there's a bye, it will be because of you. Oh, Pedro, please say hard to get out of the car parked at the bar. Is that from a movie? No, I think it's because I say all of those words stupidly. So he's hard to get. Sorry. Hard to get out of the car parked at the bar. Hard car park. Hard car park.

Any final words you want to say before I let Eaton Beaver close the show? This would be a great way to find out if Dave does watch this show because it unraveled greatly from an hour till an hour and nine minutes. So it'll be very interesting to see if he says, hey, I like the show, but all that Chinese stuff.

Hey, I love everyone. That's not my stance. My stance is I'm cool. I like the dicks big and small. I like the slant eyes and the fucking big old Indian eyes. i'm cool like when you confirm or deny that maybe you skipped forward at some point during that i did i cut out like eight minutes of the keto talk you missed one bit at the end where he says the biggest microphone and i already ripped it and made an instagram post off of it oh wait what happened, what happened? Say that again. Somewhere in there, we have the large microphone.

We should be using that microphone to tell people CrossFit isn't dangerous. And then I just ripped it and made a post showing the Tia, Fraser, Katrin all have larger microphones than CrossFit. It's around when he said that we missed that bit as well. Yeah, we missed a bit as well where he said about the season coming on Wednesday, quarterfinals is going to change or something. You fucking told me to jump it forward, Pedro. I blame you.

No, you changed the speed, but you didn't jump forward, but I don't know how we missed it. Oh, no, I did jump forward. I cut out like eight minutes. This is from Hiller fit 2.0. Here we go. Biggest microphone. We have the biggest platform. We have the biggest reach of all the CrossFit ecosystem of all the affiliates of all the athletes of anyone involved in CrossFit. We are at the top in terms of ability to speak out outwardly. And we need to take that on and we need to do a way better job of

using our microphone, using our platforms, and using our position to tell the world that CrossFit is not dangerous, that it doesn't cause injuries, and that it's an effective program for pretty much whatever your goals are. So you think that that's not true? They definitely don't have the largest microphone, especially for what it is they'd be trying to accomplish with that. Because that first comment, I think, by Coach Bay Carl, he isn't arguing, but I think Peter said this somewhere, that they have the largest microphone to CrossFitters, and then that coach comment says that other platforms likely have non-CrossFitters following them, which are likely the ones that you'd want to be talking to more often than not about telling you that it's not dangerous.

Sure, sure. I hear you. But I think that's great right whatever i do think that that's a little misleading though because you could go um uh if you if you add up their their their youtube pages and that doesn't count well that youtube page is a fucking atrocity but that's because they're not that's because they're not using it right their their instagram accounts are atrocities too so you're comparing i mean don't get i'm not i'm not arguing with you that their their accounts aren't shit shows but they do have the microphones and they could cultivate the following followings behind them they should be posting every single day to youtube games crossfit they should be doing that with instagram they should be having more provocative more valuable more direct more legitimate fucking comms um but but then they have then they have the

microphone but it's not plugged in then because because you could put camille on there too uh hillar and you've shown me that her shit's got like 1.2 million followers but fucking no one's watching it so like we don't you know what i mean and and no everyone knows fraser's just over there selling beam dude yeah but his reels still get hundreds of thousands of views somehow fair enough fair enough yeah i mean he's popular but but but i think that there's different i don't know i think i i think what you're saying is accurate but I think it needs to be contextualized like CrossFit could they have it in their

ability to do what Dave's saying but they're never going to do it at least the way we look at it now they could straighten they could straighten the ship what's crazy is they could still be a shit show and be heading towards selling out to private equity but still fucking cultivate a massive following. One's not – right?

Hey, you tell me something. You have $1,000 to put on whether or not they're moving in the right direction with their media or they're not. Would you put it on the former or the later? Wrong direction. I agree with you 100%. $1,000 on them not moving in the right direction. Yeah, they're not – no, they're definitely not moving in the right direction. That's the later. Wrong direction. I agree with you 100%. $1,000 on them not moving in the right direction. Yeah, they're not – no, they're definitely not moving in the right direction. That's the point.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They could have the loudest voice. They could, yes. But no one's thinking – But when he – but he's admitting – what I guess I'm saying is he's admitting they're not doing the right thing. he's admitting they're not doing the right thing and you're and you're and you're being you're being specific i'm giving him some wiggle room you're being specific on what he said that they have the largest voice and you're like no you don't but what i'm saying is is and i agree with you but what i'm saying with to you and i think you would agree this is they could have the largest

voice but but what we all agree on me you and dave is that they're not doing the right thing. Correct. Oh, wait, you went out, right? Correct and correct. Do you think that someone could take CrossFit? Do you think someone could take CrossFit from CrossFit? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

I think it's going to happen. Somehow, teleport the community somewhere else. If the community is an ice cube, melt it. It falls through the sieve. Catch it in a jar below it. Take it to a freezer and freeze it yourself and bring it over to you. Do you know what I mean? Like, just kind of like. I tell you what, wasn't i on with cap one at some

point and greg's nd or whatever is that non-compete is up yeah and uh in the next couple i just don't think he wants to do that i don't think he wants to do that well i mean maybe he doesn't want to but the fact that the fact that you look at it and say it's plausible means that it definitely could happen somewhere else. But you're saying that you think it is going to happen. You think it's only a matter of time. I'm not even saying buys CrossFit. I'm saying like eventually like street parking fucking is like, hey, we're going to throw a fucking fitness competition.

We're going to start doing programming. Our programming for affiliates has surpassed our individual programming because they do programming for affiliates, and they're just going to kind of morph into that. We're going to change our name from something silly like street parking to something a little more hard. Fitcross. Yeah. Highway. Highway parking. A mayhem. Here you go. Mayhem. Mayhem. Parking lot.

Or how about any of these other people who have their own affiliate programs already? Yeah, and all those. Mayhem. NC Fit. Palladium. What's the one Bedvergeron has? What's it called? Palladium? Comptrain.

Palladium. Is there a palladium? Sounds like a fake metal. Maybe that will be mine. Palladium. That'll be your LMNT. Palladium. Is there a palladium? Sounds like a fake metal. Maybe that will be mine. Palladium. It is. That'll be your LMNT. Palladium. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you to everyone. Thank you, Dave Castroro for once again uh yeah uh doing your part

thanks you're valuable asset to the community no like that black how about black cock fit c-a-u-l-k black cock fit and it's because it's because every it's to denote the the black mats at gyms have you ever seen mats that aren't black in a gym? Yeah, mine have not. Oh, what color were yours? Blue. Oh, wow. Mostly black, though.

TRT fit. Trend fit. TRT fit Tran fit I have to pee Alright Thank you for coming on Sorry for the last minute notice Thank you Whoever reminded me this morning In the comments that

The Dave's weekend review Review, that caught me totally off guard that someone would ask that question and he would answer it. Is it tough to be my friend? It's not tough to be my friend at all. Dude, I fucking sold more L1s than fucking anyone.

Thank you. Anyone? Anyone. I booked one last week. Oh, yeah. Let me put it to you this way. If there were, yeah, more than anyone. I sold more L1s than anyone.

I'm willing to argue that. Take that in a court of law. I put it to you this way. Repeats himself. Yeah, well, because I was going to be like, hey, I've just made so many videos about it, and I've talked about it during the day and i got the ball rolling that it's like it's like it's like i'm adam it's like hey i have more grandkids than everyone than anyone you know what i mean and i'm not adam greg's adam you know what i mean but i'm but but

i'm like are you that snake i'm yeah i'm whatever whatever adam's kid is, I'm that. Did Adam have a kid? Did he murder that thing? Abraham or? Yeah, I'm Abraham. Yeah. Like, after that, like, all the, yeah, like, I had my hand in, like, there's two degrees of separation between me and you getting your L1. And the new head of affiliates hasn't even taken an L1. Shit.

You missed that sale. But that doesn't matter, Sevan. It it's okay it's not the end of the world does Don Fall have an L1 isn't there a way to figure that out I'll see you guys tomorrow morning Tyson Bajan will not be on the Chicago Bears will be playing Thursday evening um and no my L1 is not up to date not even close neither is mine um uh Sleeky yes uh Don has an L1 oh there's a guy that asked the question what tyler's chancler taxidermy no two more up

two more oh oh oh oh i literally asked that question regarding seven for podcast seven also i see your relationship has benefit today for sake of cf oh oh okay so it was a sigh all those it was a wow it was a sigh up okay Okay, Tyler. Alright, fine. Get a little free publicity for the 7-1 podcast. So I shouldn't be defensive? What's wrong with me? My mats are black. Your mats are black. Why can't we be friends?

Dave Castro doesn't have one bye bye oh yeah tomorrow live call and show tomorrow no Tyson Bajan Tyson will be on it looks like Friday Wednesday

Greg will be coming from Africa that's a long ejaculation i'm sorry um i haven't reached out to her yet but this morning i woke up thinking i would love to talk with annie um thor's daughter about her second pregnancy who said that who said that i thought i thought that was like something between my ears is like oh you should get annie on the podcast pat founders have another baby not him but like his wife oh wow that's cool how'd you find that out he put it up on instagram yesterday oh i didn't send it to the group because i saw it like four hours after he put it up so i assumed everyone had seen it douche don't assume anything another i get all my news from you guys i I don't look at actually anyone's Instagram. He's having another boy, he said.

Strong sperm. Oh, dude, this guy wants to be your friend bad. Let me know when you re-go for your L1 Hill or I'll join. Wow. That's a child. He's courting you. That guy, he said earlier he wants to be your friend. Did he? No, that was Rambler. That was Rambler? No, no, no, it was him to Dan Guerrero to

Andrea Nistler caught a hot load. Yeah shit Wow you say You know someone said that is not a cold light I saw that in the group Hey If you're into the movie Don't Breathe You would love that movie That's the horror movie Where they put the baby in the box No

That's Quiet Place That's Quiet Place Don't Breathe the end of it is wild It's got to do with semen. Is it a horror movie? Oh, yeah. See, I don't understand. It concerns me when I go to iTunes and I see that every fucking week there's a new horror movie.

It makes me think something's wrong with society. Who would go see a horror movie? I think something's wrong with you. Hitter. Oh, God. Hitter goes to see a horror movie that ends with a wrong with you hit her oh god hit her goes to see a horror movie that ends with a bukkake but it says yeah i saw 10 was awesome nistler was pregnant back at the norcal classic good honor

did she say that i don't know maybe they're just doing backwards maths my new favorite thing is when people just, like, off their cuff, bring up back of the napkin math when they're talking. It's so funny. It happened a bunch over the course of Rogue. Like, Taylor would bring it up. I think you guys brought it up. It was so funny.

I like it, too. I like it that Tonto has a bunch of like lines now in the in the ecosystem nothing burger back of the hand math i think you guys brought up the torres show too back of the napkin math it's so good he should be he should be honored it's kind of cool if you were smart he'd make i don't know t-shirts oh yeah look yeah, look at T. Look at, look at, look at. You just have a napkin on the front with a bit folded over. Wow, maybe, you know, you know how the, you know how the Lone Ranger podcast, have you

ever seen the Lone, god damn it, I don't have time for this, but look at this. Look at this, uh, Lone Ranger, um, podcast. Hold on, let me find it right now. Lone Ranger podcast. It's. Let me find it right now. Lone Ranger podcast. Lone is spelled T-A-L-K-I-N-G.

Yes, yes. Okay, look at I'm going to show you the Lone Ranger podcast. Look at their YouTube page and look how they have friend of the show shirts. You see that? So I always thought that those were like because Brian Friend's on the show. That's what I thought.

But it's not. No. I thought that originally as well. And so if they can do that. You haven't been listening to them since 2019 like I have. So I think I need. Friend of the show. have so i think i need um friend on the show i i think i need a back of the napkin math a back of the napkin math shirt and a nothing burger shirt but the burger's really a vagina but you only like

you know what i mean the bird the hamburger sideways it would be a burger but the meat is roast beef or something no it's just a vagina. It's just like... No, it's a hamburger, but it's turned this way. You're thinking of a taco. Yeah, taco, but a hamburger. If it's a nothing burger, the center has to be empty. Did you say your wife's pregnant again? No.

You're not having another kid? No. I think he was talking about Vellner I thought he was too No Vellner is How many kids do you have? Two Are you sure Pedro? I thought you said that like a week ago or a month ago

No Well next time your wife's pregnant About like six months in ask her to open her legs And look at her vagina It's like a sideways hamburger I hope everyone enjoys the last time i'm allowed to come on this show what why would you want to see that well see it looks like a hamburger yeah this is like it looks like a

and then after they give birth it looks like looks like a hamburger that sat on a grenade. The friend of the show thing is their Patreon, I believe. It is their Patreon, yeah. You should bring out a shirt that says friend on the show. How about hamburger? We have Brian Friend. Oh, my goodness. How about people who are like – how about people like – I always wonder, too, also what happens when people watch a show. about people like i always wonder too also what

happens when people watch a show they're like oh my god i was on the salon podcast it was so good and like their parents watch and it's like just the first two hours of them being interviewed and it's all smooth and cool maybe like one or two boob comments but it's chill and then all of a sudden they get off the show and the parents leave it on and it's just just cock and balls and racism and abortion they accidentally click on a call-in show. Do you see what's happening? This show is like, not that one, not that one. Oh my God.

It's like, it's like when Hopper was on the other day with Hunter and then you had him on again. And then Hopper apparently like stayed on to listen. Well, Hunter had to say. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah yeah then afterwards we're just like Analyzing the shit out of you Oh

Oh People stay on after people people listen To the rest of the show who Would have known Yeah what's wrong with you go read the bible Logan Mars I tell no one this is a guilty pleasure Alright I have to go Oh oh oh shit here we go this is good my sister is a woke crossfitter that's exactly what happened

when i recommended your show to her oh no that'd be a crazy she wasn't like she wasn't like oh my god say it again the woke crossfitter instagram profile. Oh, yeah, that's good. Is there one? Is it satirical? Oh, there isn't one. Could be. Oh, there should be, yeah. Hey, Beck, your sister wasn't like, oh, my God. I didn't realize I was projecting my racism onto the world.

Holy shit. All I'm doing. She didn't listen to the show and have a wake up i'd say like 0.003 percent of people hey do you remember what you just said about dave and how at 40 years old he had to change you a little bit yeah yeah you know how hard that was for him to do for you imagine that but like without that interpersonal interaction well yeah basically too what it was too is my wife had been fucking trying to explain it to me for fucking 20 years

and then all of a sudden some fucking semi-autistic mexican dude fucking explained it to me he he he lived it in front of me i couldn't imagine i imagined her when you came home like hey dave just explained some issues are you fucking kidding me it was like that well it took a long time it took it wasn't like i couldn't figure out how he could get away with what he could get away with and i'm like oh this motherfucker has integrity and like i started really like embodying the words in like grokking the word, like taking it in. And I was like, Oh wow. Like it's, it's like integrity is amazing. Do you remember anything explicitly that he had integrity over?

For example, like Greg wouldn't have a, no, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you i'll tell you i'll tell you it's like it's like what he remember when someone said seven you literally come on this show and talk shit so i want to i don't have time for this last story at the games one year he said um uh the endo board was giving away free endo boards For like the winners Like the winner of the crossfit game He's got like 600 bucks in an endo board And he's like Here's your cash

And here's a fucking piece of wood you balance on Overpriced piece of wood you balance on And I'm like what an asshole And then I was like Last week he killed six people At his job And this is an overpriced piece of wood like what the fuck am i supposed to say and so like i slowly i i slowly started to understand like hey dude there's fucking levels to this shit and like like there's you can get away with that

when you fucking have integrity like and you have depth and um you you're not doing anyone a favor by sugarcoating shit it was just a constant endless barrage of those things you know just hey stick to your stick to the truth now could you have said it like you know and i went you know the story you've heard a million times where I went to my L1, and he's like… Women's weight. 95-pound bars over here for men, 65-pound bars over here for women and pussies. And I was standing by the 65-pound bars. Ooh, that sucks.

You asshole. But, like, why? Why? He's giving me an opportunity. So you're trying to say that the frog grips had nothing to do with Tia Toomey's performance at the Rogue Invitational. I don't even know what frog grips are, but yeah.

I like frog grips, just saying. So are you making a video on that? I made an Instagram post about it. Hiller is greater than Castro. I don't agree with that, but i'll give you a hang i'll give you a hang loose sign no i'm not not autistic just asperger's he does um dave does some self-stim stuff that i because i used to work with developmentally disabled adults and i see dave self-stimming stemming what does that already do like this kind of shit? Yeah. Or like firing guns? Yeah.

He lightly rubs his eyebrows like this thing. That's like he's stimulating himself. He's like self-stimming. It's like a… He has a constant stream of water going down his throat. Especially plastic bottles. I refuse. He's constantly drinking water.

It took an autistic guy to change stuff on. Imagine if all the 49ers get it and change the world. And he stands up to people. I could see why Dan says that. You stand up to people too. And you don't just do it on the internet. Did you walk behind anybody there because they're the slowest walking people in the world just all the obese people in the stadium yeah so i'm walking other people and everyone's navigating and this dude took a

half drinking beer and shoved it into a bush and i went into the bush and i got the beer and i walked up right next to him and i whisper in his ear i kind of loud and i go that's littering your fucking dip shit oh shit and then they like keep walking past him because i was walking kind of quick i'm like you'd be ready for him to come and get me yeah but then his wife couldn't catch up and one of my favorite things to do is make men look like pieces of shit in front of their wives when they're being pieces of shit yeah yeah yeah and that was an instance where i'm like oh god i bet she just thought he was a dipshit the place is immaculate they just built it and he's throwing beer bottles in the freaking bushes the place wasn't

100 feet in front of him um uh bernie gannon does dave stand up to authority well what's interesting is he would not do what Hiller just said. No, no. He's a mind your own. Dave really minds his own business. Really minds his own business. But if you fuck with him, yeah, he'll stand up to authority no problem if you fuck with him. I mean, dude, I saw him and Greg have some

wars when fucking no one else would fucking stand up to Greg. I'm not saying it was right all the time, but man, they would have some wars. I was witness to some. Yeah. One thing I do, this doesn't display

integrity like Hitler telling someone they're littering, but when I bring my kids to the pool... I don't think that's integrity. That's something else. Well, this is just stupid what I'm going to say. You know there's like a little kiddie pool beside the main pool? So if I'm in there with my kids i've done like three times and it never fails at this point someone will say like oh which ones are yours i always just go like i don't have kids and i just wait i wait long enough for them to be like what like

it's just me and like three kids one of them is is his and he's like, who the fuck? Why? And then like one of them will come over and say, dad, dad. He's like, oh, thank fuck. You can see the relief that they're like, thank God I don't have to report this guy. Yeah. In California, you would be given a medal. Oh, how nice of you strange man to be with our kids. Would you like to read to them?

Yeah. And you've got your dick out. Yeah. Would you like to pull your pants down and read to them? All right. Love you guys. Talk to you guys soon. Hiller, thank you for coming on. Pedro, thanks read to them? All right. Love you guys. Talk to you guys soon. Hiller, thank you for coming on.

Pedro, thanks for coming on. Great conversation. Love you guys. You too. Thanks, guys.