The Sevan Podcast - Rogue Day 2 | Recap Show

Episode Date: October 28, 2023

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No worries. Hello, beautiful people of the Internet. It is me. I'm Taylor. I'm back. Now it works. Hello, beautiful people of the internet. It is me. I'm back. I said right before we went live, I'm not going to eat while we're live on the show. And yet here we are. Come on. One bite, dude.

I had to get a potato in there. One bite. Everybody knows the rules. All right. What's up, guys? How's everybody feeling about that last event? Anybody want to kick us off? Obviously, talk about the weather a little bit there.

Pedro, you look ready to blow. What's up, brother? Do you guys want to know what the Jewel 3 is? I know what it is. Over, under logs. Sorry. Do you want me to pop your cherry? Sorry, Peter. You go. I know what it is. You know what it is too,

Peter, though. They're going to go over and under a bunch of logs. They're going to climb a rope, and then they're going to load three sandbags into the bin until it tips. Right? All right. That's an exclusive on this show, so we need to get that out in the first 20 seconds in case you guys want to.

And I'm out. I'm gone. Thank you. If you guys caught that there, it's like this. I got to say this. Before our potential guest comes on, I'm shocked they're pulling again.

What do you mean? Rope climbs tomorrow. Bar muscle up. Monkey tomorrow. Bar muscle up, monkey bar, ring muscle up, rope climb, pegboard. Crazy.

I love the workouts. I think they're super cool. JR pointed out some of the order of events to me and a couple of things. Coming back to back to back, which are like, man, that,

looking at it closely, that's crazy. But but like a tree well you were talking about everyone's lats going to be sore coming into this one it yeah i made the hanging thing the shoulder thing for sure but hands dude it's like a trish it's like a trition of hands right now it will do we think that the the hands got more wear and tear because of the the wetness of the bar that maybe wasn't necessarily factored in. When, okay, pull-ups, everyone's used to doing pull-ups. Everyone knows how to use their grips and everything on rings and on bar muscle-ups and all that.

But those are bad. Pussy. Come on, dude. But here's the thing. On those monkey bars, your hands do nothing but rotate on that bar. So it's just constantly doing this and so i mean you get it wet even even more but if your hand's not used to that it's gonna go but yes those hands went i bet the lawson's so bomb dude she was doing great and the log the log though i think the log set the tone yeah your hand grinding around that wooden log for 45 reps reps for dudes 30 for ladies that's a

and then going right into this workout that's a lot of friction buddy it's a lot of my hands know a thing or two about friction though i would be true i bet they do you got that that pump calloused up nicely there's emma lawson's hands right here wow she had covered them in tape and then was peeling it off at the finish line. Every spot is ripped open. That red is a raw spot. That's pushing blood out. That's nuts.

Yeah. The other picture that I showed was Garrett Clark as well. Garrett Clark had completely sharded his hands. He couldn't even get probably two monkey bars across without just falling off and sliding. So, so what are they going to do on the ring muscle-ups? Right.

They're going to tape their entire hand, obviously, Taylor. They're going to go out there with boxing gloves. Are you saying that when Garrett was doing his monkey bars that Noah, coming back to encourage him, didn't heal his hands and get him to finish? I mean, dude, he has magical words of encouragement.

You can do it, brother. Just feel good about yourself. Just enjoy the now. I mean, dude, he has magical words of encouragement. He was trying to manifest some healing. Just feel good about yourself. Just enjoy the now. It'll get you across the cage. They should beat off more, dude. They wouldn't have their hands all ripped up. Well, he's not going to be doing that for a while. Just saying, dude.

Whatever. Whatever. Crazy. Yeah, and think about the hinging too so much pulling the sandbag into the band 120 power snatches the 1rm deadlift yeah i i okay before we get too much into the event let's get the leaderboard up here real quick i know you guys want to harp on it you'll have some time but our guest might be arriving shortly i don't want to harp on it when she's here fuck no dude okay so the leaderboard who we want to start with we when she's here fuck no dude right okay so here we go the

leaderboard who we want to start with we'll start with whoever kayla pulled up first okay roman starting with the men here bring it up oh we're starting with the women here we're back at the men here we go my it's like taylor's 20s okay so we got uh first place roman klinikoff second place jeffrey adler third place pat velner fourth place chandler smith surprised by that uh fifth place brent brokowski fuck kowski okay so we'll stop right there with the top five gentlemen we surprised about anything pedro you like this setup what do you think yeah um i had velner smith and roman in my top three so i'm kind of i'm heading in the right direction i'm okay with this i'm happy with this and i love a bit of brent so top five for him i'm

happy with that he needed that last one did you did you see how he wound up the skier that fucking nerd i'm sorry dude i don't care how did he do it how did he do it never see me do that he like all this one big pull and then he's like he's like double he's like double pump like one big pull a little double pumps one big swim stroke in the skier he was milking the cow dude that's what he was doing he was yanking that utter what is there is there a strategy to that why would he do that no well he finished second so whatever he was doing yeah it seemed to work out all right huh i mean unless maybe it was he he did that to slow him down so he couldn't get i mean because you're just spending the most of the time on the

skier you know he's the he's the long tall guy like roman i mean roman crushed the the ski which we knew he would. I mean, he looked great. But I'm really shocked on that Chandler's still in fourth. He was 11th on that. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. I was surprised to see him up in that top five after it shook out. Do we think he'll stay there?

With a deadlift? With a deadlift? Okay, he's got one in there with the deadlift but the ring muscle up handstand push-up too i don't think he's gonna be bad at with that with the power snatches i don't uh man i don't know i don't see any workout i don't know if he'll have the i don't know if he'll have the that's like a it's like a double nate almost and i don't know if he'll have the capacity for that to hang with like other guys like i mean i think even noah's gonna be up there in that one i think adler adler's in a great spot i think it's i think the next event's gonna be tough for roman because of the length the range

of motion is gonna be tough for him one thing that stuck out to me in this event and this again jr brought this up to me to give him credit was how it always seems that jeff adler struggles adapting to new things we saw the first year with the parallette bars parallel bars we see it here with the monkey bars it's like if something new is thrown in he struggles with it and for him granted struggling is a ninth place at rogue that's not horrible right but with a ski dumbbell shoulder overhead and a monkey bar, you wouldn't expect middle of the pack from the fittest on earth. Right.

Good point. Okay, let's go down a little bit further, too, and let's see the top 10 shot there. Do we have any surprises? Oh, wait. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on, people.

Ricky getting clobbered. That's a surprise. You think his hands are messed up? Oh. Katie, hello. Ricky getting clobbered. That's a surprise. You think his hands are messed up? Oh, I think. Katie, hello. Hey. Hi.

Hi, welcome to the show. You got to be quick tonight, guys. Absolutely. You're stuck with the B team. I apologize. I'm in replace of Stevon. So this will either be better for you or be absolutely worse. Only time will tell. I'm not wearing a basketball jersey, so let's do it.

Hey, how many changes have you had to make with the weather there? Last night, I was wondering, we had made a prediction that you guys were going to drag the bag up the hill. And then we made another prediction that maybe that got switched due to the wetness of the turf. Any comment on that? That wasn't a change. But you guys always predict things that may or may not be right. I don't know. You're like 50-50 or less? This is true.

Damn. Dropping bonds right now. Hey, look. In all seriousness, it's been rough. We've been dealing with the weather. We knew that going into this. It's changed every hour on the hour since we got here last Sunday

and I'll give it to the athletes they were awesome today they were flexible they rolled with us that that pop-up at the at four or whatever time that was that kind of came out of nowhere to your first question the bag drag was always in there we had an original plan to finish through the actual finish line the day one. We made the change really early to keep it in the outfield. That was made two days prior. So that's the only change we made on the run. But yeah, that bag drag has always been in there.

And that goes back to 2019. We did that in the Go Ruck run, the first event in 19. Well, that's awesome. And I will say one thing that is amazing is the uh broadcast alternate broadcast the premium broadcast we were loving on it completely are you guys using the same broadcast team as the crossfit games uses i think there's there's definitely some different people and we've added a lot of people look that that that tailgate stream we're trying to get as many people on as possible i think we have like right now like 25 or 30 people that are going to be on

throughout the weekend and that goes crossfit and strongman. But that was the whole point. You know, we definitely, we're going to, um, obviously free to free to YouTube, our normal broadcast. And we're going to do a post edit with that with CBS. We have to have that, but we wanted to have fun. And if you listen to those guys today, that's what I wanted them to do. I wanted them to be themselves. I wanted to talk about the athletes. i want to talk about their experience and i think that's really helpful and it's fun yeah absolutely i think this has uh completely changed the future of broadcast i think you guys uh set the presidents there and we'll start we'll see how this evolves in the future um question do we know what happened to yanakoski yeah he rolled his ankle coming down the hill during the run. I think everybody thought it was a cramp, but came back in this morning and wanted to not go forward.

That's awesome. We just vindicated Caleb. Super unfortunate, though. That's not what you want to see, right? They've trained really hard for this thing, and it is 20 people, and you don't want them doing that on the first event, but it's sports. It's going to happen. Yeah, definitely. And then the, the dumbbell,

the Sears dumbbell looked awesome. You can't buy it. And that's a, you know, every year we've tried to do something where it's a play on strong man or something that strong men implement they've used in strong men. And that's like, if you look at the Sear dumbbell, we've done that at the Arnold and at the Invitational, and they're gonna do it as a record breaker here this weekend.

But we really wanted to put something in there that's, you know, they have access to dumbbells, but just that sphere on the end and the way they're doing it, we did allow them. And that, again, for everyone, it wasn't a change. It was briefed, and that was in the rules before. They could use two hands to get it to the shoulder, like strong man and they could return it to their shoulder if they needed to with two hands and that had nothing to do with the weather but obviously that could

have come into play here with the weather tonight yeah how far out do you plan these events oh man josh and spiel and i started working on these um started talking about things in March, really dialed in the queue May and June. And then right after we got those done, we started working on these workouts. So we've been through many iterations. We tested these with multiple athletes. Carolyn Prevost came in for a weekend. We tested with Colton for a few of these and they were really helpful.

It validated where we thought we were going to be on some of these time caps and the weights. We made some minor adjustments after some of the testing. But it's been spot on. And these athletes are kicking ass. I mean, you couldn't ask for, you know, better attitudes than just coming out here and doing what they do. Yeah. Amazing stuff. Bill, go ahead.

I was going to say, you've already had some really cool races. And one of the things I always wanted, especially with the evolution of what you guys are putting on event wise there what's that that that leading why of the purpose of the events the way you're designing the events you always have such unique tools and unique pieces that they'll never see any other even in the games um is the uniqueness part of the how you're putting it together like at the very beginning when you and josh and chris are sitting down or like is there a theme or what's your theme it's not a theme obviously you know there's a style to our programming and you can see that through the years um that said like we want to be able to showcase the athletes but we want to show them

in a different light the crossfit games are to find the fittest on earth that's not what the rogue imitation is about i know taylor doesn't like this one for sure. We like to put on a show for the athletes. I know he doesn't like when I say that. That said, if we program a certain way, the same person is gonna end up on the podium, but we can showcase the equipment. We can showcase different implements for the crowd, for the audience, and also expose the athletes

to things they haven't touched before, which I think is really cool. Yeah, and hopefully the athletes think it's cool because it just can't be us that thinks it's cool. Exposing athletes to something they've never seen before is probably one of my favorite things about CrossFit. And that's – what did you say? That's super important. I mean you just said you love that. How important?

Yeah, and I think – look at the log. Look at the log muscle-ups this year. We had a lot of people that calved. Now it was a much different workout. But you saw the guys stringing them together yeah and i think that that evolution of just year two and you know talking to most of the athletes they didn't do that you know in their training they they had maybe a little exposure but nothing like that and i think you just see how talented these athletes are year in and year out in the base that they're building and you know kind of pushing the bounds on where they're at will that be for sale that log not at this not at this point but potentially potentially

i don't know this is coming up just saying just i don't you know it's like the dumbbell man i'd love to put them for sale i don't think you want to see the price tag on those things will you guys make an aerial low end bar the neutral grip you know You know, she, she brought that to us. I do think it's really cool after we did that video with her, I think seeing that and seeing the different ways that you could train for a log bar, cause she was training for a log bar on that, right. She just didn't have access to the log. Um, uh, and a magnet for Magnuson has brought us some similar stuff to look at.

And I think that, uh, yeah, we're always looking for new ideas. And anytime someone brings us something cool, we're willing to work with them and maybe bring it to life. Awesome. Pedro, you got anything? I got like two minutes. He's got two minutes. I love it so far.

Broadcast, unbelievable. Like the options is just fantastic. Really love it. Awesome. Katie, quick. Yes, quick question. So I'm not sure what happened. Maybe somebody kicked the wire or something,

but the plug came out of the clocks. What happened there? Well, it turns out that sometimes when you have weather, we have some technical difficulties. And the thing there was we were trying to correct it in the moment. It took everything down. That said, we still had the chip times. We still had all the data. It just wasn't getting back all the data it just wasn't getting back to the stream it wasn't getting back to the audience obviously it's not a good viewing experience but the most important thing is the athlete had the

chip time and that's all we're concerned about at the end of the day i know the world doesn't like to hear that when you're watching something and we try to get it as best as we can but sometimes that doesn't happen and obviously with the weather that that had to take precedent i don't think anybody even really noticed that it was out i just looked really closely and i saw a as best as we can, but sometimes that doesn't happen. And obviously with the weather that had to take precedence. I don't think anybody even really noticed that it was out. I just looked really closely and I saw a buzzer or something and I noticed it. I think a lot of our staff noticed it.

So there was a lot of people here running around. That's what makes you guys so great. Little bit of hair on fire. That's why I got my hat on tonight because it was a wild ride today. And I thank everybody for tuning in. The crowd was great here today. They stuck it out.

I don't think anybody left when it started raining, even when we had the delay. So that was really cool to see and just really to put this thing together. But we got two more days that we have to get through. And there's probably going to be some weather that comes through. And we'll make some changes if we need to. But, you know, maybe the sun will come out tomorrow and we'll be okay. Yeah, let's hope so. Adapt and overcome.

You guys are doing a fantastic job. Last question, Kay, maybe they'll still not come out tomorrow and we'll be okay. Yeah. Let's hope so. Adapt and overcome. You guys are doing a fantastic job. Last question came before I let you go dealing with all these changes, the uncertainty, the weather, wait, are you taking a vacation after this? What are you doing? No, back to work, man. We're getting ready to go into a heavy peak season for us back at home. I do have a day job. I wish I could do this all the time, but you know, this is, this isn't my day job and I really enjoy that.

But the team back home is holding it down and, uh, no Monday will be a work day for us. And, uh, as much as I wish I could go to the beach, that's not going to happen right now. Katie, thank you so much for your time. It is. I mean, it's just such a privilege. Thank you. We appreciate it.

See you guys tomorrow. You're a boss. Thanks Katie. Now I can eat, right? Uh, yeah, please do so okay i turned off the comments during that because there's no way i could like watch people probably just ridicule me as i tried you just you just you just missed jeff by call being a fucking twat for like five minutes but you didn't miss anything else what wait who jeff who by our how call by our call oh welcome

back jeff is actually a good friend of mine we went to high school together um he's sorry about the problem thing dude i told you that way okay so let's go back to that leaderboard caleb can you please uh bring it back up for the men here i wanted to ask her uh least favorite movement in crossfit or cross or movement you might not ever program because you dislike it so much. I'll ask her if she comes back on over the next couple days. Is that a dumb question?

Should I not ask that? What do you hate? Did they go into the workout or not? Yeah, you might not ever get asked back again. I got crushed? Oh, fuck. Jonathan thought I got crushed. Okay, fair enough. Hold on real quick.

Let me read these so we can pay the bills real fast. Wad Zombie. Hiller dropping bombs on IG. Chased. Changed my mind. Hiller. Changed it. Wait, really?

Okay. Well, at least you're open to all things. Thank you, Wad Zombie. We got Jordan. I wonder what the mind change was i know we'll have to have him elaborate here um i know we all have our doubts about the old tutor okay tutor magner looking like a pro with garrett out there fantastic thank you for your contribution jordan we couldn't have done it without you okay all right back to the uh leaderboard all right so who we got we got uh yellow host day we got noelson bkg ricky gerard

and jason hopper in 10th are we surprised by any of this oh travis bummed about this what are we bummed about bummed for ricky i just i just i i don't that i didn't see his hands bleeding but i that just it was all shoulders and he just didn't have it and i that bummed me out how much of the grip do you think played a factor because i i saw why when he came down off it his hands look also pretty shredded who ricky's ricky's i don't know man it's hard it's hard to tell whose hands are bleeding not it's like all the grips are wet because of the rain so it's hard to tell whose hands are bleeding. Like, all the grips are wet because of the rain, so it's hard to tell if it's, like, soaked because of water or soaked because of blood.

I mean, like, obviously, Garrett, you saw red dripping off his hands, and Emma Lawson, you could see it coming between her fingers, too. But I don't know. I didn't see his hands bleeding. It just looked like he didn't – I mean, he wasn't falling off the bar. He just wasn't moving very fast. Somebody said Ricky's hands were bleeding bad in the comments. If you can see blood on their hands from the camera, that's a fucked rip.

Hell, that's a shit ton. Totally. I didn't see it though. I didn't see it, so I don't know. It is crazy. If that's the case, then what are we looking at? We're looking at like what? Already a quarter, quarter 20 of all the

athletes are shredded we have two more days of rolling left and roll climbs tomorrow right none of those weirdos have aids dude like if you have what if you get blood all over that rope dude i'm just saying dude if you get blood on that rope they're not climbing up there to clean that off okay anybody else after whoever taylor are you surprised by any of these uh on that rope. They're not climbing up there to clean that off. Okay. Anybody else? I'm not going after whoever. Taylor, are you surprised by any of these 5-10 finishers here? Or through 12? Really?

Bailey Martin, Travis Mayer, and 11th Bailey Martin. How good are Bailey Martin and Yadah also doing? Like for two rookies this year at the games, to follow it up, they had like great games and then to follow it up with this i'm really impressed the two of them yeah both of them are super athletic yellow hostay with a second a 14th and what was that other one the fourth fourth and then uh bailey martin with an 18th

a third and a 12th i mean the third place obviously keeps him up and up in the conversation i'm a bit surprised i think jason was capable of winning that workout or if not being way closer to roman due to him being in the second heat i think what i was surprised by is that he's been competing for three or four years at a really high level and he hasn't learned that if you're in a bottom heat you cannot back off racing those guys at all at all because there were points where he walked. Yeah, a few times he looked over his shoulder and it was like, dude, you're not racing them.

Like, you need to fucking go. I was looking at his splits compared to Roman's and he actually had faster split times on the ski. But because he didn't transition fast enough and then even on the cage, he came down a couple times and he just wasn't pushing that. It's like he was pushing the ski only, or at least moving on the ski.

But yeah, you're right. He didn't have any rabbit to push him. He should have been thinking Roman the whole time. Right, and that's what I was surprised about. I'm like, dude, seriously, you know you can win this workout. Stop pulling back. But he's my buddy. Okay, Jason Hopper in 10th. What are we thinking about that?

I think he'll continue to climb a little bit. Yeah, Travis Mayer? I do not think he's going to climb much. I don't know, man. I don't think that any of the events are going to line up for where he's really going to be able to excel. I mean, the strength one, the deadlift, I don't think he's going to be able to excel i mean like the strength one the deadlift i don't think he's not going to be able to hang with those guys i mean he'll he'll

do decent uh but i don't think that there's like a like a really grit only type of thing where he can just get nasty with i don't love everybody else i don't see him like at least in today's era i don't see him as as that home run hitter. Not like he was. Yeah, right. Not like he was, and he's also not the guy who's going to be top five in every event. So I just think that, to be honest, this weekend,

I think 14th through 11th is best case for him. I don't disagree. Okay. I get bummed about that, but I don't disagree. Which is still crazy. It's a rogue invitational. 14th through 11th. Okay, now we have...

This is interesting. Jay Couch in 13th. Will Martin in 14th. Lazar Dukic in 15th. 16th is Victor Hoffer. 17th, Dallin Pepper. Out of these guys here, what are we looking at? And this is our last one, Garrett Clark.

Go back down a little bit for me, Caleb. 18th, Tudor Magna. 19th, Garrett Clark clark and yana koska as we learned is out so how about this lineup are we surprised by anybody i'm surprised by dalem dalen yeah i was but then that another part to me is like am i actually surprised by it because he had such a big games year maybe he's just like it's just too soon after the games and he's just not like you know not going in for it he's just like there do you know what i mean he's another heavy guy dude i don't think he's a great runner not the best runner so i'm not surprised by that first workout and at least this was a long time ago but when we competed together at water palooza he was not great at muscle ups and handstand push-ups things like that he still struggled quite a bit with we had talked about it so i would expect improvement

over that period of time but still you don't go from being really bad at something and that's a weakness in a hole that you have to work on a ton to okay now you're top five at the rogue invitational in it like that so i i don't know i'm not surprised but i would expect him to climb for sure yeah that's i mean that's a pretty low setting i don't i don't know. I'm not surprised, but I would expect him to climb for sure. Yeah, that's a pretty low setting. I don't know, though, man. I don't see him getting in the top 10, do you? How many points? He's got 105 points.

What's the top 10, Mark? Yeah, let's go back a little bit. So he's at 105, and he would need to achieve 65 points. I don't know, man. That's a lot to make up considering the guys in front of him, though, too. I think he'll do really well on the duel. I would have expected him to be where Noah is and Noah to be where he is. That's what I expected

coming in. Noah I'm a little surprised by as well. I thought Noah was just like that run like going around high five and everyone on the run i was like this guy doesn't give a fuck like he's just having a good time so i'm surprised he's up as high as he is i thought that would be there and he'd be down the bottom somewhere okay so surprised we're in the noah's in the uh seventh huh you just didn't think he was going to take it as seriously because he's high-fiving well he didn't take the games particularly seriously like it was like a victory lap or like

you know it's like a final farewell farewell or whatever so i figured like this is just an extended version of that that he's just dragging it out for another month or two somebody said give no time he'll know it okay so what about wickie gerrard i mean an eighth of first and then obviously what happened with the last event with an 18th like are we gonna see him catapult back up to that top five spot or depends on his shoulder if he has that the shoulders out with the hands on push-ups like you know like it depends what stage he's at there you assume he's fairly good if he fucking signed up for the competition but like you know just it's like there's so as well because you don't know how bad people's injuries are with their hands But like, you know, just like there's so, as well because you don't know

how bad people's injuries are with their hands and shit that you're kind of like, right, are they okay tomorrow for rope climbs and stuff? Or are they going to be just like struggling like on the struggle bus for that one,

struggling with the ring muscle-ups and then just like lucky to hold on to a top 10 finish in those kind of workouts. Yeah, well, we had made a comment earlier saying that it looked like quite a few of the competitors are suffering from the torn hands.

And if that's the case, then it kind of evens the playing field now. Well, yeah, it evens the playing field for some of the other athletes that are shredded up. But you guys been talking about different tiers of the athletes that are in here. You're not going to be able to make a jump into the top tier if you're shredded up. And the other thing is this, like when your hands start to go you start to move different so now all of a sudden if your shoulders are already weak for stabilizing and holding you're going to be changing how you're moving and what you're trying to use and then you're not going to have the the endurance in those particular you know stabilize just to be able to move the same way so yeah great point can you go back up to the top kayla real quick and

we'll kind of finish off the men here and jump over the women shortly. Do you think anyone would ever withdraw from a torn hand bad enough? No. I've had it with the games. Huh? I've had it with the games. His hand was barely a fucking hand. That's the games, though.

That's the games. I mean, I think it would depend where you were like if you were 19th then okay maybe you might go ahead go ahead go ahead the owner's hand of the games was like a burn from the rope so like it was bad and had a chance of getting infected but it wasn't a deep wound from ripping a callus purely off the hand. Like if you,

if you, those red marks, these calluses are like five millimeters thick. Do you rip that off? It's like deep blood's coming out. I don't know, dude, let's get some hand picks, dude.

We could start a, we could start a torn hands, only fans, all these athletes hand picks. Well, I think if they, if they got a shot to earn some money here i think they stay in it and the only reason i would guess that is even if a pretty

bad hand tour with the cows flapping in the wind it's still not a long-term injury on an athlete right i love it i love carnage like that so i mean although it'll cost some pain and some discomfort through the rest of the competition that's for sure and like bill just stated like you're going to change some movement so that could lead to some stuff happening but at the rest of the competition. That's for sure. And like Bill just stated, like you're going to change some movements so that could lead to some stuff happening. But at the end of the day, it's not necessarily a long. Everyone says that until they got that baby fresh skin that you can't even like wash your hair because the shampoo hurts too bad.

And then you hop up on the rope that you got to do and you get all that like fiber in your hand. And you're like, you know, I was going to be tough. Now this, whatever I'm going to get out of it, thousand dollars is not worth it because it hurts really bad. I feel like to be tough. Now this, whatever I'm going to get out of it. Thousand dollars is not worth it. Cause it hurts really bad. I feel like I get to a point though. And if I have a really bad tear where once I get like a minute into a

workout, it's hurting it. It just goes numb. Well, dude, it's not a bad thing. It's a, you're bleeding everywhere.

That's true. That's true. I mean, it's like, it's like you're, it's like you're trying to compete with like salve on your hands. Didn't they say that the roll climbs are any roll climbs. So at least it's not like,

like they'd be fucked if it was legless roll climbs. The pegboards are really hard on your hands. Holding the peg. It's every single pulling possible gymnastic thing that we have. We throw it all into one weekend.

Jed and I, Nelson says soak them in Epsom salt. Beeswacks, dude. Be slacks. Can we bring up the female leaderboard, please? Anything else, guys, about the men before we jump over to the other side?

You know who still just amazes me is Will Morad. That guy will not go away. Yeah. He just won't. You don't think about him, and all of a sudden it's like, there he is again. And you're like, he'll never hang out there, and he's just kind of right in there every time. Where was he at again?

I didn't quite see him. I think he was like seventh, eighth. Wow. Wow, he just won't quit. Okay, it's come down to this. Laura, Tia, trading blows. Laura, first place, 280 points. Tia, 275 points.

That's crazy. Gabrielle is still hanging in there. Look at that at 235 points in third place. That's quite a bit of spread. I mean, now we're seeing 40 points difference. Are those two going to just start pulling away and fucking everybody else is competing for that last podium spot? You'd assume so.

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Visit rbc.com slash student offers. Yeah, was that a hand thing? Yeah, we don't know. I would have thought she would have been able to fly through that. Right. And she just wasn't moving. Strong upper. Very strong upper.

Yeah. And fucking lower too though dude honestly after those back squats i cannot get that out of my head she was flying on the back squat it was funny because when i first saw that uh killer cage it you know reminded me of like what was that the 2012 games when that was released 2011 11 2011 games yeah i kind of remember thinking like the big thing in that was the 225 front squat. The killer cage kind of was just almost there. But in this one, I was wrong. I think they lengthened it out quite a bit more.

And as those rounds went on, you saw that that was a huge obstacle for them. I think it would have been totally different if they were dry. You think so? I think so. They had to be unbroken. They would have had to be unbroken. I think it would have been okay. I know.

That's what I'm saying, but it would have definitely changed it. I think that would have... I mean, honestly, they should have just... You got those cool, badass dumbbells. Make it count for more than eight seconds of time of the race.

Yeah, yeah, I agree. Those should have been like 10 on each side, not five. Yeah. Those didn't even count and which is too bad because i mean they were pretty but it was always interesting when movements like that are programmed in a little bit where they're kind of in that could have just been an opportunity to showcase and they really wanted it to be a skier you know couplet but they dropped that in there because it just happened to fit really well um so we had, let's go back up just a little bit more. Emma Lawson in fourth. I think at 225 points. In fifth place

we have Emma Carey at 195. Alex Kazan in sixth place. 170. Lauren Fisher in seventh. I'm saying it with a ton of a question. That's shocking. That's a legitimate shocking. That's legitimate. That's the most surprising thing so far.

Is she going to be there on come Sunday? Top 10 on Sunday? Judging by the way the numbers are going currently, I don't think so. Just all of her places are going further down each time. I reckon that might continue tomorrow. Okay, the trend continues. I think Lauren Fisher will be top 10.

I mean, she could be right. She could sit right at that 10 mark for sure. I don't think she's going to. I don't see her getting last in any of the events. She's not going to do a Bethany Flores, a 627. I think Lauren Fisher, for whatever reason, my perception of her is she's an athlete that's always been mistake riddled. But she's – I don't ever remember – I can't think of one thing that I'm like, wow, she just stinks at that. Well, parallel bars. Really?

In the team event. Yeah, that didn't go. Thus, Annie decided to go back and go individual again. Wasn't her shoulder – didn't she have a broken collarbone though or something? Yeah, she had a shoulder injury, yeah. Thrift shopper flippers. Lauren making an individual run. She did last year

and didn't do it. She went to semi-finals last year and didn't qualify. She's done the individual run. She did the run. Okay. I thought that was just a joke. This is the tail end of her individual run. Wow.

Hey, do we think Roman's banging his translator? That is highly inappropriate. Wow. Dude. Wow. Okay. Hey, do we think Roman's banging his translator? That is highly inappropriate. Wow. Dude. Wow. It's just an innocent question. Totally innocent. This is the same space. And we're here to just not really do much.

Just keep it positive, relatively boring, surface level, and move on. Keep it positive. Kick me off. In 8th place, we have Paige Svenda, 155 points. 9th place, Christine Gullen-Brander.

10th place, Bethany Forrest rounds out our top 10. Danielle Brandon in 11th. Are we surprised by that? I'm surprised by that. She's near and dear to my heart. That would be top five for sure.

That's your heart speaking, though not your head. You're right. That's near and dear to my heart. That would be top five for sure. That's your heart speaking, though, not your head. You're right. That's the Democrat in me. Man, Sevan isn't in this podcast right now, is he? He's like, he's in the ear. He would have libtarded you all over the place on that one. He's not using that one anymore.

So were you surprised by her 11th place? What do you think? Yeah, she didn't look like she was doing anything. Even on that killer cage, did she look bothered when she was coming off the kit? No. All she had to do was

she just had to go past, and I know it's like she's probably fucking wrecked, but she had like three bars to get through and she had whatever, 45 seconds, and she would have got credited the rep had she got to the end. And it was just like, oh, I'm just going to keep chalking my hands for a little while. It's like fucking get up on the bar.

Right. That's what I mean. Like it's if you're here, if you're here to I like I like what I like about Danielle's when she has attitude. And I don't see I don't see at least right now I don't see the attitude. You. At least right now, I don't see the attitude. You like the attitude.

Well, I don't mean the... It's not about flipping off the crowd all the time, that kind of thing. But the fighter, that attitude. Like, line them up, man. If you kick my ass, cool. But let's go. I want to let's go. Not this, well, maybe I'll do, I might play.

Maybe I'll jump up and maybe get the rep or I'll. I mean, I hope that that's, again, we're just sitting back, totally armchair quarterback and what's going on over there. My hands aren't on the wet bars or anything like that, so I don't know. But it just seems like you normally see a little bit of angst coming from her, and I just don't see it yet. Yeah. And we don't know what's going on with her.

So to the point you guys were kind of making earlier, like if something's up, I mean, she could just be at this point just there for a little camera time now. And, and just to have some fun. Right. Yeah.

She did leave Naples and is being like coached by someone else other than Matt. So there's a lot going on there. Totally. Fun going on there. Totally. Interesting. It changes. 12th place, Dani Spiegel. That I'm shocked by. I'm surprised she's not

dead last. 18th, 14th, and then a third. Just catapulted herself up there quite a bit. She did really well in that last workout. I got genuinely shocked how well she did. I know there's a lot of Dani to be moving up on top of the uh of the rings and stuff like that we've seen her do muscle ups but this was her just hanging and she's i mean she's a good gymnastic mover and then you know you couple that with the power

output with the ski i mean i knew she would do good i didn't i was not i didn't see i didn't see her as being the only the only female to go unbroken on all the rounds of the most of the monkey bars i did not see that coming that whole that whole first heat confused me honestly i was shocked that there were a lot of women that did not finish i mean like two like what what happened to everybody i was yeah yeah and i think to your point bill what you've said several times here i think it's just like the wetness of the bar was just the factor that nobody nobody really thought about or got in yeah okay so we have uh ariel lowland 13th place like here's what i see i see that little fifth a little shining light coming through on my girl she's gonna start making her way back up to the top.

What, Taylor, you disagree? No, dude. I fucking love her husband, dude. I'm gay for her husband. Whoa. Dylan's my guy, dude. He's an easy man. I wish he'd build me a house.

Does he build houses? Yeah, I think he's a contractor. Yeah. I want him to own a homestead with him. Great, dude. Caleb's in the market. You guys got a couple houses right away. Caleb's in the market. You guys have a couple of houses right away. Caleb's in the market.

I'll do whatever, man. Just finish my house. I'll do whatever. Whatever you want, man. I don't mind. Are you with me on this, though? Is she going to make that march back up to the top? I mean, we've seen this kind of happen with her before

where it wasn't that great of a start, then she just steadily climbs back up to the top. Those first two events aren't hers. Do you know what I mean? Right. Yeah, she should definitely climb higher than she currently is she'll take our official place in the top 10 i think she'll smash the 4-8-12 the muscle up handstand totally i think she'll smash big cat i don't know i think she'll do well on the duel but i don't know about the deadlift i i just don't know about the deadlift.

I just don't know what her top end is. Can you do me a favor and scroll back up to the top five? I'll write it down this time. I apologize. I just want to see the points. What is it going to take? She's at 135. I think it was something like 225, 215. We'll get her in the top five.

195. Okay, so it's not a huge gap to the top. Oh, yeah. Now you agree, huh? No, I wasn't saying she couldn't. Okay. Okay. So it's not a huge gap to the, Oh yeah. Now you agree. Huh? Huh? Huh? The math.

I wasn't saying she couldn't. Okay. Okay. All right. Thank you. So I bet down for it a little bit. Anything else on this loan before we move on? What are we moving on to?

Oh, past. Okay. Yeah. Thank you for bouncing out 14th at 125 points. 15 page powers at one 20 higher, a millioncing that. 14th at 125 points. 15th, Paige Powers at 120. Tyra Million in 16th at 115. Emily Rolfe, a third and 19th and a 20th.

Whoa, okay, at 100 points. That was sad. Yeah, what happened there? Getting clapped. She couldn't get the monkey bars. She was so slow on the monkey bars, she just crumbled. Is that not crazy? we're watching 40 of the fittest athletes in the world and they can't do a fucking monkey bar like you never went to

elementary school shocking they don't have them in canada probably easy dude spreads covid you used to like punch each other in the stomach while we were traversing monkey bars like in elementary school try to kick each other in the nuts which is nuts because if you if if there was a toes to bar if it was toes to bar instead of monkey bars you'd be like oh man emily emily ralph all in the bag it's gonna be all her it's gonna be all her hands on the bar she just crushes it and then like again we didn't see her enough on there so what were her hands bleeding too i don't even know. Now it's like we almost need an inventory

of everybody's palms before we move on to the next day. Even have an idea of what everyone's going to be able to do tomorrow. They could use that on the big screen. They could just have them all standing like that on the big screen when they're next. So you're like, yes, yes, no, out.

Gonna do well because there's only three people left. Survival of the fittest hand. Right. I'm just gonna be with someone with a stump being like, oh, I didn't do well. Oh, no, I know what they're doing. They're doing this so that they can then tomorrow give everyone the special rogue gloves that

cost like $8,500 each. Worth it. And then that will be the selling point for everyone and that will be the next thing that everyone buys for Christmas. It won't be the dumbbells. It'll be the real gloves. I think that little plasmid is wreaking havoc on her body and that's what happened in that event. Three ships free. Okay, down

to the bottom here. We have Elena. My mic cut out there. Sorry if you guys... Move. Move. I'll lay in a couple, my mic cut out there. Sorry if you guys. Mood. Mood. I don't know what that is. Dude, mayonnaise's name sounds like an Italian charcuterie meat. Like it's just like a meat you would see at the grocery store that you would eat with cheese and maybe a grape.

Oh, it sounds like some sort of raw vegan. She didn't say like mayonnaise, like a deli spread or something like that. Oh, that too. Oh, dude, definitely a a spread not a meat for sure a spread and to round us out here 19th 100 100 points shelby neal 20th at um how many points less than 100 okay 70 70 70 points 70 points 20 things okay back up to the top please caleb all right so we have our two that are just absolutely running away with it is anybody going 70 points, 70 points, 20 things. Okay. Back up to the top, please. Caleb. All right. So we have our two that are just absolutely running away with it.

Is anybody going to break in there? Do we see any holes potentially coming up that are going to just push one of them or both of them down a little bit? I mean, Laura, Laura Horvath, fourth, second,

and a first, by the way, guys, I'm going to call her in a moment here just to keep up with the tradition and see if she'll answer mine, my call. And then, uh, we have Tia and uh second here with a first a fifth and a second anything on the horizon that we think is going to potentially give either of those two ladies trouble do you bill uh i think everyone's gonna want to say something about the handstand push-ups with Laura.

And I just don't think that with those, I think she'll be fine. So I think that that will still be a big battle between her and Tia. What's nice is I like the fact that I think Gabby and Lawson will still be in the mix on a lot of those events. You know, I don't think that they're going to get dropped down. I don't see Laura and Tia ending up at like 8th or 10th or something like that. I don't think that they're going to get dropped down i don't see laura and tia ending up at like eighth or tenth or something like that so i don't see that i don't see it but the events that are coming up um hey joe yeah i mean i would have said the deadlift to be maybe a tricky one for tia to keep up with like you know coming back but like the squats were obviously a piece of piss so her

pelvic floor is obviously just you know invincible so she's just absolutely fine and there's like she basically just didn't have a child so what the fuck do i know is there any comments on that any comments on that oh sure that or anything you see coming that will potentially um push these two ladies out of those top two spots. I think Paygirl's right. I don't think she had a kid, dude. I think it's a conspiracy. I think it's an AI-generated baby, dude. For the viewers.

It's actually the child that Roman had with his translator. I think it's actually Roman. Criminy. No, I I look at the fifth place in that middle workout and I wonder if Tia did that on purpose to save her hands. I don't know.

Were you watching the tailgate for the last one? I was not. I was watching the regular. Hopper was on, and I don't know if he's joking or not, but they were asking him about the second workout. And he was like, well, I mean, I knew I wasn't going to do particularly well, so I just slowed down. He was like, what's the point? And then he was like, save us out for this one.

And they were like, yep, I respect it. So you're probably not wrong if you think that's what Tia did. Interesting. I just always figured out if they're out there competing, they just want to fucking win regardless. No, a lot of athletes have that attitude in certain workouts. Yeah. But,

but you, but Tia has never had that attitude, right? I don't think like, I don't, I think for her to do that would be so out of her realm. Like she doesn't know how to do that. You know what I mean?

Like, I mean, when is she ever, I don't, I don't, I've never seen her pull the reins back. Not that she's going ballistic like out of control, but never pulled the reins back to be like,

you know what, I'm going to let – go ahead and take this one. I'll just kind of settle back a little bit. I mean, not to say she couldn't. I mean, she's been on the floor a long time. Yeah, and this early in a competition, I don't see her doing that because, I mean, somebody with her experience and competing at the level she does, she knows every single point matters so much. So if you're this early in the competition, you're kind of pulling back for some reason and you miss out on a handful of points.

Or maybe she doesn't know that because she usually just hammers everybody, and so she never has to worry about a couple points. she got this what you said about jason is crazy because i don't think that's an approach you should ever take into an event or like a winning mindset but i've heard that his hands are fine and if most everyone else's are shredded to oblivion i would be shocked if he didn't climb a ton if he saved his hands from getting destroyed for the rest of the competition everyone else's are hamburger meat i mean that's a pretty good advantage that's a huge advantage yeah yeah yeah okay so anything with the uh women that we didn't uncover that we want to uh talk about here before taylor breaks down um the dual three for us one more time uh what about britney casey missed it britney spears no britney flores oh bethany bethany i mean sorry

it's so it is i would how do you do that well in your heat moving like that I know it's insane I mean I only I get it I think she's totally being protected right now I think she's protective of herself uh but that it was so crazy it was like every single pull on the skier was like okay nice and easy okay okay okay I said, don't overextend. Okay, keep mellow. And then the same thing on the cage. That was nuts. My three-year-old does the monkey bars with me

holding her feet, and she goes, Bethany is worse. I mean, the thing is we've known since she's come back from her back injury, she will put that as priority right if you're in the competition first and then like where I can go I go

and like whatever happens coaches she like Hayley and what the fuck is his name Josh they're working with her and Perrin is working with her like they're not I think that's always a priority is finish the competition and like get through it and enjoy it or whatever and then see on workouts you can push

the last two were obviously ones that she didn't feel I mean she didn't do badly in that one she did quite well considering like she was moving like a five year old but like 7th place I mean it did her good right that was so crazy and the ski was fucking bizarre as well the whole package was just weird.

How much of her injury do you think is psychosomatic? 75%. You think a ton of it. You think a ton of it. Caleb Beaver, who is spelled... I do too. I mean, honestly. If you're going to continue to baby an injury

for as long as she has it's been like three fucking years i think it's all psychosomatic at this point right and still compete and be able to do unreal things but then like something that's like completely arbitrary just seems to like what like you go from semifinals and snatched whatever she snatched or did the 135 barbells unbroken like touch and go like doing touch and go power snatches, like eccentric, bringing it down. That's as dangerous as anything. Yeah.

It all started when she got the Rona. Oh, wow. She's got the plasma running through her veins too, bro. Damn. A little special delivery. That's crazy. Okay. So, uh, Bethany Flores, smooth and slow and steady wins the race,

or at least gets you seventh there. Okay. Anything else? Slow and steady doesn't win you anything. What? Slow and steady just doesn't win anything. It comes seventh. Good job.

I know, I know. Okay. Peace that thing down. All right, so let's talk a little bit about um some of the events tomorrow unless there's anything else that you guys want to add to this with the folk now not women but best thing i saw today was uh bailey martin slide finish coming in ahead was it will more and he came in ahead of that i was like oh like when he slid i was like fuck i think he missed it and it was like three hundredths of a second i was like, oh, like when he slid, I was like, fuck, I think he missed it. And it was like three hundredths of a second. I was like, even if his whole rest of his weekend is shit, that was a phenomenal moment.

Sliding across the wet rubber. That was just so cool. I was waiting for more people to do it. And he was the only one who did. I was kind of disappointed. Chandler, I thought I was sure Chandler was going to do it. And he did. I think he knew, though, I'm just too far.

It just looks stupid. Like sliding and just like finishing last. Hey, I'm just happy that we got to see that race on the TV. It just looks stupid. I'm just like finishing last. Hey, I'm just happy that we got to see that race on the TV. That was solid. I'm also doing camera consulting, so if anybody needs it. Event four, tenth inning here.

We have ten rounds, four ring muscle-ups. Perfect for their hand smile. Eight handstand push-ups, 12 power snatches at 95.65. For some reason, I feel like the power snatches are going to be more of a factor on people's hands than the ring muscle ups. Any opinions on that? I don't, I don't think it will. Not that way. I don't think so. Cause you can open up at the top too. I mean, as you're moving,

after a handful of rounds into it, I mean, you'll start to see more of a relaxed tempo. Rather than winging it up and pulling it right back down again. They'll settle into that tempo with their hands. I don't think that'll be a problem. I think the rings will be bad. More of a factor? Yeah.

I think with people's hands, I think the snatches and the muscle-ups with people's hands are going to be brutal. I think what I would expect to throw a wrench in the workout more than anything would be the eight handstand push-ups. Like just muscular fatigue-wise, and I'm really good at handstand push-ups, I would expect for people who aren't the best at them to get in that 6, 7, 8, nine, 10 round after all of the snatching and all the ring muscle ups. And that'd be the sticking point that would surprise you. Yeah. I think that also could be the anchor to the, uh, to the workout there because both of those are going to affect the handstand

pushups. And then with the eight, that volume creeps up to a little bit quicker than it does with that muscle up. Their midlines are already shredded. The power snatch is going to destroy it even more. When your low back gets fried, stabilizing at the top, the handstand push-up, it all just gets wonky. I don't know.

I look at that and see. It's a lot of push. Right. It's a lot of push. The ring muscle up, you got 40 of that. They're going to be locking out on top. They're going to be making a big deal about. You got to lock out for the handstand push-ups for sure,

and then that support on the snatch. It's really funny because we've done all this pull pull pull and i mean yeah everyone thinks ring muscle there is pulling on that for sure pressing yeah but this is all pressing it's all that lockout okay so we want to do some predictions for this let's start with the guys. Who are you thinking? I could go first if you guys want me to. Just break the ice so everybody feels comfortable. All right. That's all, Federer.

Do you know who's going to do well on this? Because he doesn't give a shit, it's going to be Noah. Oh, yeah. He's going to do well on it. I would pick Noah, but I feel like i feel like traditionally what do we see happen these he'll lead the pack and maybe the rounds one through four one through five and then in those rounds one through nine but with but with these with these i don't think i don't think that he'll he'll break down like that if it was a if it was a heavier a heavier snatch or something

than maybe i think it's still pretty light. It's kind of like we saw when he was in the games, it was when they did Cindy. And he was racing Matt. Oh, Mary. Mary, I mean, yeah. I mean, he just held that capacity the whole time. It was pretty

impressive. Hopper will be I hope Hopper does well I think Adler is going to do well on this one too Pedro I heard you say Yeah Yeah

That was actually going to be my pick for this one as well Great pick you guys Great pick Gymnastic specialist Hopper that's such an inspired selection. Okay, Wanker. Come on.

It's the same thing for Felder, dude. Fuck you then. I'm picking Tudor Magda. Pick Hoffer, you pussy. Alright, so the reason why I picked velner is i just think these movements are traditionally good for him but the other thing that he has up his sleeve is he's really great at pacing yeah yeah it's the mix of those two things yeah yeah and i feel like he probably won't be much of a factor when we're talking about the first couple of rounds but i

think in those later rounds he's the opposite he's the opposite of noah so he's like when noah starts like blowing up and making a mistake, Valor just like creep past him, that's exactly the way I pictured it yeah, okay, so do we want to do the last place thing too? let's do that

Will Morat's probably a great pick for this workout I saw that, Justin Will Morat who do you got for first place? Just help him with the lagging, buddy. It's nice and comfortable up here. We'll go Belner. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Good pick. Good pick. I've got Garrett Clark for last place because his hands. His hands were ripped. That was actually a good call. He couldn't hold on to the bar at all. Brody, dude.

Terrible. So wait, who'd you say again for last place? Garrett Clark. Was that Caleb or was that you, Taylor? That was me. Who did Caleb say? Yellow host. Yellow host.

Oh, host A? Okay. Some length. Tall guy syndrome? All right. Yeah. You going with that too, Bill? Yeah, sure.

Throw the rookie under the bus like that. Jair's going more not for last, but I think for first. For first. So that's two for yellow. Pedro. Pacer. Pacer.

You just sounded like a pedophile. You didn't sound... You know who's going to have a rough time it's gonna be ricky oh okay are you changing i'm gonna last i don't i don't want ricky to be last but i'm just saying he's gonna have a hard time see i don't want to speak garrett because everyone's making garrett oh only i picked him oh. Oh, I'll go Garrett then, yeah. I was going to just throw a run. I was going to be like Hopper and then if it didn't happen, everyone would forget it, but if it did, they'd be like, holy fuck. Okay, women. Okay, and I'm just going to go with

Bailey Martin because it was the first one I looked up when I saw there. That's a safe spot. Okay, women. Who we got first place? place bill want to kick us off uh i'm gonna go gazan on this one gazan okay all right all right taylor man i would have picked emma lawson but her hands but her hands exactly i don't know i don't know uh under normal ah tia yeah that's who i'm going with for sure should have said laura just because

pedro you got yeah i'm gonna create a safe space and i'm gonna go for tear wow i feel unsafe with that accent the fucking disrespect caleb who you got you didn't say that i was whispering in your ear last week what'd he say we'll just leave that one scratched off the record there caleb who is that sorry it's a beat i like kazan on this one too. All right. All right. You know who I'm going with? You guys know? Yeah, you already said it.

You said Tia. Yeah, I know. But now I'm choosing my mind. I'm going with Ariel Owens. That's who I'm going with. I like it. Also Tia, too. Plays two bets across the board.

Okay, who we got? Who we got? Who's not going to do so well on this? Paige Semenza. Okay. You were quick with that one. What do you know? Her hands are shredded up too? No, I just have a feeling she's going to.

I don't know if she's going to this weekend. Beautiful. Paige O. Lauren Fisher. Wow, last? You're fucking high. No way. Do they even make weed in Ireland?

Can you get that stuff there? Yeah, we got like this and stuff. Like weed. Pistols. Okay, Taylor. and stuff like weeds thistles okay taylor uh i'm having a really hard time with it i want to say danny spiegel because of the muscle up standard but she's really athletic and it's a kipping hand step she's amazing in handstand push-ups super strong on the barbell so i don't think last uh man rolf oh interesting okay yeah i think we're all too but only because uh actually i'm gonna go with i'm gonna go i'm gonna it's always hard i feel like my opinion actually matters now that i'm the one uh talking and usually i'm just in the background a little

bit here i'm gonna i'm gonna go with uh uh page powers too i'm just in the background a little bit here. I'm going to go with Paige Powers too. I'm just going to follow Caleb's lead. Really? Stop it, dude. She's not going to take a class. Somebody else said somebody else picked. I don't even know, dude. I'm just fucking trying to figure out. That pick was Sawyer left field. I bet Caleb said height right around and she ignored him and now he's like,

sorry. Yeah, try to get an interview with her, Caleb.'s see how that goes okay did we get uh okay we already we already talked about one last thing somebody had a great comment in here i think it was uh jimmy world who's now um daniel brandon's next door neighbor he asked about the strict is a handstand push-up so what do we know about them are they strict did they talk about that did they release anything on them no i think I think they're just regular. I haven't seen anything. I think they're regular. So we're going with regular kipping. Regular.

Alright, fantastic. Anything else you guys want to talk about before we sign this off here? My heart rate's been at 165 this whole entire time. It probably can't be healthy. It's crossing, dude. Z2. Dead silence. Okay. Alright. Oh, kipping. JR Howe Dead silence. Okay. All right. Oh, kipping.

J.R. Howe confirmed it, so now we know. J.R. Kipping. What fucking ways can you do kipping? He means you can do the handstand pushup however you want. Strict kipping. Oh, okay. Working handstand pushup.

Have you seen the one-legged kip? You can do the helicopter kip. You got Chris Spieler, 2013, med ball, parallette handstand pushup. He wore a beanie and he was kicked with one leg. That's right. Well, he wore a beanie because he wasn't stupid because he didn't want to bust his bald head up on a metal plate. I don't remember that part.

All right, guys. Thank you so much for joining us. This was awesome. Pedro with Coffee Wads and Pods. Go there, but only watch my interview. Don't watch anything else so I can boost up my views and better my self-esteem. Taylor with the Self-Made Training Program. Buy it or

you could just fuck off. Okay, Bill. Thank you, sir. Bill CrossFit Inferno. Long time OG. Thank you for joining us. Mr. Caleb Beaver from the Shattuck Live and Rogue. Thank you, you guys let you call in yeah go ahead and call we'll be here for you it's not if you