The Sevan Podcast - Shut Up & Scribble // Summit Games Day 1 Recap w/ Bryson

Episode Date: October 6, 2024

Taylor Self and J.R. Howell break down Summit Games programming with Bryson Delmonte Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're on, what are you on? Are we live yet? Oh, we're live. What are you on? Is this government subsidized Wi Fi Jr? You look like you look like you want a microwave. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know why it looked like that. It's not it's definitely not a Elon Starlink. You've definitely gotten zero federal aid. Let's see. I'm pulling up these workouts. Hey, he says if this is Bryson only, I'm canceling my membership. So you guys should get off for like five minutes and then we don't have to worry about her anymore.

Well, what membership does she have? She's a member of, uh, Oh God. Okay. Here we go. Competition corner.net. Um, so right. Here's what we're going to start with today. Me and JR both going to JR. what'd you do? I wanna start each show going forward with what you did for a workout today. There we go, maybe you can hear me loud and clear. Clear.

Okay, what'd you do for a workout today? I did the class workout at the gym. So it was- Which was? Pause front squat tempo, just like work up to a heavy single, three down, three on the bottom. So it was a pause front squat tempo, just like work up to a heavy single three down three, three 15. And then the conditioning workout was one of my members. It was a birthday workout request. It was 63 or 42 cows for the females on the

skier So that's a buy-in and a cash out and then the middle was three rounds for time 21 dumbbell bench 75s and 50s 150 foot sled push with six and four plates and nine deadlifts 365 to 45 Okay, so 21 bench press. 150 foot sled. Nine deadlift. So all weightlifting for the triplet and then the ski to start and finish.

Nice, nice. I just got to say Mason really butthurt about the slog Just mad I just mad that he doesn't have access to a bro Oh, he wants to be able to he wants a he wants a pill. He wants a slog slog It sounds so much cooler to say slog, but I think that sounds way cooler I couldn't think of a guy like me. I couldn't think of a clever nickname like me. I couldn't think of a clever nickname, like a name for the workout using what? Slogger instead of Frogger. Yeah, that's cool. Do you think it's an unfair advantage? Athletes that have access to some of the equipment that you have versus athletes that don't?

I mean, I think you're a perfect example of the fact that if you want one buy one dude, like people are saying can I come use the pill? And I'm like, that's the only thing you can't use until Wednesday. So I mean, they could have ordered one and gotten in a few days like you did. Colton did that as well. Yeah. How much are they? Two was a two 60. Uh, some like that. You're 65 was like 315 bucks with shipping.

Yeah. Yeah. 315 exactly. It came in like four days though. Yeah, actually this is the first year that like, um, I can't listen. I don't necessarily think it matters at the top. Mason burst off. I don't think it matters at the top.

I think the fittest people there do well for the most part. I hate to be a hater, but I do agree in this instance, Lindsay's a good example of, it seems to me that she does really well at some of the things that other people don't necessarily see or touch much. Yeah, she did really well last year at stuff that isn Programmed this year. That's true and she got her booty clapped in quarters.

What were you saying before Taylor just started interrupting you? About her not about her not not doing about none of the movements this year being last year's? No before that it was you were talking about something entirely different and Taylor was just like, Oh, I'm trying to pull the heat away from you. Fucked hard. Sorry, bro. I'm trying to lay into jail. I can take the heat. All right. Well, can Adrian Conway take the heat? No, what I was saying is that this is the first year. This is the first year none of the local local or non non-local athletes have been like, hey, can I drop in to push the flip sled? Can I drop in to use?

I don't know. I mean, there are people I know that don't have a turf period to do double unders on. Not that it's really gonna make a difference, but little things like that. Oh, we're doing the drag rope dubs on the turf? Yeah, bleh. I feel like drag rope wouldn't make a difference on the turf

No, it really doesn't but I think just like people handstand walking on turf feels weird to them because they've only ever handstand walked on This is a great dot-com workout for for tomorrow. I might do this workout Uh 100 dubs 50 ghds 25 power cleans 50 ghds 100 dubs 155 Oh, they got a big-ass typo. Oh Says let me see if you guys can see this Come on where's the fucking fix fix fix. There you go. Can you see men 105 women 155? All right bitches, it's up to you tomorrow So I like that workout. What do you think JR? women 155. All right, bitches. It's up to you tomorrow.

So I like that workout. What do you think? Jr. Yeah, it's cool. Damn, there's a fucking house flying here. I'm going to lose my shit. Um, here are one 50 for guys, 70 pounds for ladies. Yeah. I can't wait to talk about this.

Let's not get there yet. What? So let's stop. Stop. We'll get there. We'll this. Let's not get there yet. What? So let's stop, stop. Don't, don't, don't repeat it. We'll get there. We'll get there. We will get there.

But to start, um, Mason, the turf is not that soft. I wouldn't stress about it for the dubs at all. Personally. Um, I have a technique of doing the burpee yoke get over that I hope no one else. Does. yoke get over that I hope no one else does. I think someone might have posted them doing that technique. Someone from Crucible or... I guarantee you that whatever technique you're using, I've seen it.

No one's going to have a novel technique. There are going to be people that are tall enough just to step over it and that's fine. There are going to be people that put one hand up on the upright and use that to help themselves get over. Like it really doesn't matter. That's why it's. Oh, you know, my yoke has the uprights that are like seven feet tall. So I can't use them the way you could use yours. You would say they're still tall enough for you to be able to like use them. Yeah. I haven't used the uprights, but I don't know.

Maybe you've seen it. I, I learned it from one of my athletes. Um, interestingly enough, but you can't go back. Wait, is it the way I watched you do it? Yeah. Okay. Have you seen somebody do it that way other than? No, I just want, I just want to check to see if, uh, Morgan did them that way on her story, but she had.

Did she? No. Yeah. I don't think a lot of athletes will or even thought to try that. When I saw Emily doing that, I was like, oh damn, talk about efficiency. It's crazy. But fortunately for me, the people that I have to worry about are way too short to be able to do that.

You definitely got to have some length and some, yeah, some length. So basically what I do is I throw one leg over My nuts X smacks the crossbeam and that gives me a little bit of bounce To actually pull my other leg over So if you're listening Colton it wouldn't work for you because you have a vagina But otherwise Okay, sorry, sorry, sorry, I'm done I'm done we can do I do I not think it's a what work how I did today Um, but otherwise, okay. Sorry. Sorry, sorry. I'm done.

I'm done. We can't do I, do I not have to get to say what workout I did today? No dude, we're training. You're competing Bryson's at the summit games in Utah. Where in Utah, salt Lake city, baby. Wow. Is it cause your location super weird that you share your location with me anyways, um, but your location says South Jordan, Utah, like, like it's almost the Middle East.

Why is it weird that we share locations? Taylor's like, you're the friend that's like, dude, don't say I love you. No, it's not. I say that all the time. I just only send, uh, my location to my wife, dude. We go on so many trips together though, that it's weird for me to not have your location. Okay. That's fair.

That's fair. But I don't have read receipts on. Like, that's dumb. I don't want people to know if I read their messages, bro. Do I have that on? Yeah, you do. JR, do you have it on? Hope not.

Wow. Okay. Sorry, I just got a text from a realtor. Me and Lizzie have been like trying to get a house for the past year. We put an offer on a house earlier this week, got absolutely bent over and spread wide and that bidding war, not even worth it. Went and saw a place today. It just wasn't what we were looking for.

But uh, so I was just getting a text from the realtor. Um, where were we? Oh, we were talking about read receipts. Me and Marissa are moving into a house the day I get back. I get back from this competition at like 1 a.m. and then that entire following day, we have to move everything out of our. What day? Is it a Tuesday?

Yeah. Okay. I'll help. I'll help. I don't want to... I'm not sure if I'm going to do much Tuesday. I'll help so we can get done faster so we can work on Sentinels. We have fucking work to do, bro. Yeah. Okay. Okay. JR. Summit Games, Salt Lake City, Utah. Um, how many workouts are there Bryson? I think seven and, uh, eight scores. Eight scores.

Uh, it started out with 24 men registered to compete in elite. I think so. Yeah. And they dropped in six men dropped out before the third workout today. Yeah. I think it was even before the start, maybe, maybe there was only a couple that dropped out before the first workout. Ah, why do you think that was?

Uh, no idea. JR, how many guys drop out of your event before we start? I'm on the fence. Sorry, bro. I'm on the fence. Sorry bro. Probably, I would say no more than two. But I mean, I've already gotten a couple of withdrawals. Oh really?

Like as far as today. Yeah, because the heat schedule was made today. So I would say, wait, wait, wait say withdrawals on the men's side. Um, one withdrawal on the women's side. Ellie Hiller is injured. She can't, she, and yeah, I think there's two, two masters. Males told me about a week ago that they weren't going to be able to come anymore because of injuries.

But actually no, no men have told me that withdrawal and I think there's 28 men, 28 women. And then there's like 15 masters males and 12 masters females. Copy. All right. So we've got some withdrawals. We're going to go, we We're gonna go through the workouts first because we didn't do a review show on this. JR was in Hurricane Helene. Helen? Helene?

Helen-en-le-le-le-le. Why didn't you do a show last week? Just do it by yourself without me. To be honest, dude, I was concerned about you. No, that's interesting. Okay, when you were in Italy and California, I just did the shows Listen what I'm doing here. I wasn't I wasn't I wasn't concerned about we got four shows coming up We got a show today tomorrow Sunday and Monday. You're doing a crash crucible preview with seven and Tyler Taylor and Taylor volunteered my time on Monday night for the record. 100% did. He needs to do this to promote his event.

Wait, Taylor, are you not on the review show? No, I can't be on that show. But I'm on the Summit Games Review Show. Yeah. Exactly. Similarly, similarly, similarly to how he and Mason like to, like to tell cute jokes about Lindsay, but the fact that his wife's the head judge doesn't get anything brought up. Yeah. Yeah. So cool. Such a cool. Such a such such a cool thing to yeah. Let's question

people's integrity. Okay, let's let's question this. Let's question everyone's question. Everyone's big questioner of integrity 100% and if you can show to me that you have high integrity, we're all good. Here's the deal with Lizzie being a head judge. I don't ever get no rep unless I fail. I moved to standard. And if there's a point this weekend where I'm not moving to standard, tell me and I'll do it.

And I am not, I am not, I could not be more confident in individual than I am in Lizzie. Not only has she had the workouts and not told her husband for the past month, she's been the head judge for five years. And I would just like to tell anyone that's listening or watching or will, I would love to have a face-to-face conversation about any concerns you have about Lizzie being the head judge at this competition. Well, she does a great job.

Um, and so there's no doubt about that. And the other thing you don't need to have any doubt in is. Unless it's burpees on a pool deck, I'm moving to standard and, uh, there's no purpose on the pool deck in this competition. So you don't have to worry about that. Um, JC WTF am I watching? What is this? We're about to start Twitch streaming.

Um, animals, you know, doing weird things. I'm going to pull up the leaderboard and then I'm going to on live. I'm going to wrap my car, my rental car around a tree. Price is making a suicide joke. Let me call the guys at uplift. Um, so let's just start with the workouts. Listen, this is why you're on the show. It's because this is a recap show. Remember when I did recap shows with seven at semi-finals? Listen, this is why you're on the show. It's because this is a recap show.

Remember when I did recap shows with seven on at semifinals? Yeah, this is what we're doing, bro. We didn't do a preview show with you. Okay. You ding bat. And that's why I'm not doing it. I'm glad to be here. Like I said, I would be dead right now.

Yeah. You're the most famous guy in the field. So if you want to kick that down the curb too, I was at the tier booth on the first day and two people came up and asked me for pictures while I was looking at shoes. I was checking out the guy was like, I got a weird question. I was like, yeah. He's like, are you like famous?

And I was like, yeah, bro. Biggest cock in CrossFit. Curious. I am an insurance adjuster. I don't recommend that. Yeah. I don't recommend that. Yeah. I don't recommend that either, dude. I've actually wrapped a car around a tree.

Um, it's hard to unwrap it. I'll say that. Okay. So workout, this is the first workout. Jr for max load in a six minute window, nine deadlift, three hang clean, three shoulder to overhead. It's an unbroken complex. What do you think there?

Aggressive. I think. How many, um, you get one actual, right? And how many attempts did you get to? Well, I was a different story. Most people got two attempts. I failed two attempts. So then I, so I got three attempts because I just stripped the bar to a lightweight. I knew I could hit and got it in last minute.

Oh, right. From a standpoint of like strategy, from the standpoint of like it digging in a little bit, like to your breathing and it not just being about one rep back strength, it's good. But man, 18 reps is tough. 18 reps is a lot. Hot boy in the house. What's up Drake? CrossFit's most attractive male human being. I think

he's male. Drake is a really good dude. That's right. He says, Vindicate says you're famous because you look like Angela DeCicco uh, Angela to Chico took 30 Xanax passed out at a party. Wow. It is butt cheeks. Sorry. I got a grin out of Jr. You're not my best friend, bro. Okay.

Yeah. This workout. Okay. So Drake Lewis got a one and a half attempts. Bryson missed his first opener, missed his second and had to basically do 135. And my second was when I was like, all right, this is a lock. I just got it. What was your, uh, like what were the weights that you tried to hit or that you I tried to open with 235 and then I went to 215 after I missed 235 and I was like

I got two hang cleans on 235 and I was just like I just can't do this and then I went to 215 I was like, alright, well 215 is fine I can just like rip through the hang power cleans and at least get a score and then I did the same thing on 215 and I was like, alright, I'm fucked. So then I had a minute left. So I just went to 185 And got a score. Um, not even an excuse, Jr. But do you think to give Bryson an excuse, do you think, you know, Bryson was to me and him were talking a little bit on the phone about just feeling like burn and your muscles really fast.

And I've definitely felt that at elevation. I mean, what do you think? I don't know. I'm sure it did. I've never trained in any kind of elevation. I need to ask Drake, Drake, where do you live? Are you at elevation? Are you feeling the elevation?

He said he lives here. Oh, he lives here. He lives where this used to be when it was Iron Games. And I think this was like an hour drive for him or something. Oh, this used to be Iron Games. Yes. Okay. I've heard of that. I wonder Drake, when you are not at elevation, do you feel like you have superpowers?

That's interesting. Cause I, like when I did that kill Taylor drag rub V up workout in Italy, in, uh, Cortina in the, in the mountains there, I think it was like, I was probably around 4,500 feet, maybe it was like 5,000 there. So not super high. I was like, Ooh, I've definitely feeling a muscular burn faster. When I was in Breckenridge, Colorado a year ago, that's at like 13,000 feet. A 10 minute EMOM of five devil's press with fifties destroyed me. And when I say destroyed, I would do five devil's press and

put like my hands on the bench. I'm like, There's like slobber coming out of my mouth in this little boutique hotel gym. It was crazy Yeah, I was like blowing like blood out of my nose and stuff and Maris was wondering if it was the dryness But I feel like when we went to Texas in California was pretty dry and super dry It wasn't like it wasn't like this like the dry, I feel like the dryness isn't really that doesn't affect me that much. Zach messing is sentinel program in a way that allows gaps in days for people to do qualifiers for other comps. TFX WCA, fitness of the coast.

You, I, I would rec, well, so we have a conditioning day on Thursdays, which is optional always, which is just like typically machine work or some running. And then Sunday's a rest day. But what I recommend people when they're doing qualifiers is optional, always, which is just like typically machine work or some running and then Sunday's a rest day. But what I recommend people when they're doing qualifiers is to so say there's a qualifier Thursday, the Friday of a week, take Monday really light, take Tuesday lighter rest completely Wednesday and then just take that whole week to do the qualifiers and you just doing fortify workouts at max intensity will be the best training you possibly get. Jr. Agreed. Agreed. Fortify workouts at max intensity will be the best training you'll possibly get. JR, agreed.

Agreed. Yeah, I think, um, I guess it, it should probably be prefaced by what are you trying to get out of the competition? Is it like really serious? Are you just doing it just to do a competition? Do you know the division you're trying to get into? You're probably going to get into like, is it a lower level where you know most of the people that participate

in the qualifier are gonna end up competing? Are there 300 people in it and they're only taking 20 spots? Like all those things matter. But yeah, I think in general, people train way too much around trying to qualify or something. Or competition. Yeah, both. It's and people go into competitions beat up all the time

because they've overdone all these different movement combinations every single day. I mean, I've seen it, I feel like online where someone's tagged me in something the very next day they tagged me in the same movement. Why are you guys doing that again? Like, why are you training that movement again? I can get caught into doing a little bit of that like really wanting to train those movements, but I

Will say this I'm coming in feeling fresh as a daisy Coming in what? Coming in every single guy registered for crash crucible tour 2024. I Got a lot saved up. All right, second workout. This was Mount Olympus, second workout of the day. Back to back. Bryce, what was the heaviest lift on that?

Drake hit two, Drake, correct us in the comments if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure Drake hit like 277.5. Sheesh. How'd you get a half pounder on there? For time, 150 foot sprint, 150 foot sled push, 150 foot stand back carry, 150 foot sprint, 150 foot sled push, 150 foot stand back carry, 150 foot sprint. So I believe this was – was this on a 75 foot course? 50.

Oh, 50. So 50 down, 50 back, 50 down. Hit your sled. 50 down, 50 back, 50 down, sandbag, 50 down, 50 back, down, et cetera. Um, what was your time? Uh, like two 48, two 47. That was a nine minute cap. Oh, sorry.

Four minute cap on that. Okay. Yeah. And then a three minute transition. So at the seven minute mark, 150 foot handstand walk. Okay. So on the first one, what was your placing first workout? Uh, the complex. Yeah. I think 15th, the only I beat two people who just didn't get a score. That was it. Oh, there's 17. Oh, wait, after the first workout, six guys had dropped out? I don't know. There was more people, I feel like, lined up in the second workout. I got 15th and everyone who I beat didn't get a score, but I don't know how many people dropped

out after that or before that. All right. Well, hey, top 20, not bad. And then the sandbag carry in this was like a, it's like a tube sandbag. It's just like an oversized go-ruck bag basically. So it's a go-ruck that weighs 150 pounds. Yes, but it's not actually go-ruck. Right. It's like rubber. It almost looks like it's... So it's like a feed sack though? Yes. Yeah. Got you.

Your placement on this workout? 16th. 16th. Wow. Love you. And then handstand walk. I got like a seventh on that I think. Nice.

What was the sled like? What kind of terrain was it on? How heavy was it? Everything's on a turf. I got like a seventh on that I think. Nice. What was the sled like? What kind of terrain was it on? How heavy was it? Everything's on a turf, like an indoor turf field and the sled was just an empty sled. It was like three points of contact in the ground, two uprights and you had to turn it around.

Gotcha. Where do you feel like you felt this one the most? I mean, was it just like speed on the carry speed on the sled? I Think the biggest separator was probably speed on the carry Because I was like walking with the bag basically Wow, so my advice was bad. Could you carry it anyhow Bryson? Or could you could you did you have to carry it in front of you?

I think you could carry it anyhow, but everyone carried it on their shoulder. Some people carried it like back rack. Right. Like took a little bit longer to get it there, but I think they were probably going faster that way. To me, this first workout, deadlift, hand clean, shoulder to overhead. And this second workout back to back. Like, okay, so let me just go back to this first workout, mental

Olympus, this is posterior chain nightmare right here. Posterior chain nightmare. And it's like short time domain, basically power output in like a one minute window. Cause it's a lot of reps. It's not like one RM. It's basically posterior chain, like power output. And then you have some shorter to overhead. Then you go to the second workout and I think short time domain, posterior chain power output

and then some shoulder to overhead. I just think a very odd, I mean, yes, the Sint and the handstand walk is very different than three shoulder overhead. And these movements are very different than a barbell, but they're also like, it's like the same muscle groups, all the same muscle groups. I don't know. Thoughts JR, is that a weird place for me to go? That's what I think initially when I see it.

No, I don't think so. And I think it depends on the competition, the opinion that you might have. Like you're pointing it out here, but I remember for Charlotte Classic, and I mean, I think I did that this year for Crucible. I think the first two workouts are extremely interfering. I think there's a lot of like upper body push and pull.

And then, yeah, you still have the ski. It's still just a lot of like midline, upper body push and pull for both of the day one at Crucible. Kind of like it is here. And I remember for Charlotte Classic, we were talking about, hey, let's do the really, really light squats early in the day. And let's do the heavy squats

later in the night. So it's like you squatted two times. I think it just depends. I think to your point, at least when I look at this, and when I think about Crucible, the time domain, though, and the style are not similar. Here they are, like you're saying. Right.

It's short. It's short, and it's similar movement pattern. So in that respect, yes, for sure. Like your workout was super long, and then short. And like it was very different with the way that you put squats in the workout. Yeah. And I feel like even at crucible, having the one minute rest, making it be a little bit more hard efforts with a little bit of recovery. And then the second workout is more of just a continuous

10 to 15 minute effort. It makes it different. Salt flat repeats is the third workout of the day. It's basically a beep test, 65 foot beep test. I think this is good. I know what Taylor's thinking. Ty Baker. There'll be one time.

Okay. Who did anyone finish the beep test? I don't know. I didn't watch the second. Drake, let me let us know if anyone finished. And what'd you place in this one? Tenth, I think. Wow.

How much time in between two and three? Uh, what do you, oh, that was the longest break of the day. It was like four hours. No one finished. Is it finishable? Do you think there, do you think someone could finish it? Like, uh, say someone like me, you know, I watched someone in the RX division get pretty close. Oh really? Yeah.

Like the person that won, how long was the time domain? Like how long did they end up working 15 minute cap for the beep test? Oh yeah. I went back. What's the like 12? Like how, how, how long did they go? The thing I'm thinking about when I see this is they did sprint efforts and back to back workouts. Right. Like, and I mean, and I mean running, not like fast efforts. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, I know me too. All right. Switchbacks. This will be tomorrow's first event. Eight rounds for time. Eight toes to bar, four bar muscle up, 24 double under, six snatches, 165, 115. Initial thoughts? JR.

At least it's different than the first day. Who is going to come down from the bar early and who is not? Who is gonna go eight into four and try to keep doing that or who is gonna come down for a quick break? Do you think you should try to go eight into four? I guess depends on the level of competition. I would. Yeah, for sure. And it also depends on what kind of guy are you at the snatches? Are you a really quick reset guy at 165 or are you a, Hey, I'm going to stand here for like four to five seconds in between.

It's also eight rounds. It's a lot of rounds. That's a lot of snatches. It's just all snatches because you think about matches. You think about people who are better, like so so a fitter field eight and eight toes of bar and four bar muscle ups is even less difficult for them than it is for a worst field and the snatches are still the entire workout. And then for a worst field, even if eight toes of bar and four bar muscle ups is like

kind of, you know, a lot to do for that many rounds, six snatches at 16 of you know a lot to do for that many rounds. 6 snatches at 165 is definitely a lot to do for that many rounds. It's still all snatches no matter what. So you basically got more posterior chain power output because a snatch is all fucking power and it's all posterior because it's a power snatch. Yeah and the dude who I think his name is Brigham was on Brian's show, the guy who runs the competition and he was like Yeah, I wonder how long people are gonna stay touch and go for if anyone will stay touch and go the whole time

Cracking up I don't I don't think anyone goes to no fuck no Brigham Dude, you're a games athlete for Joseph Smith's fucking sake Brigham No one's going touch and go on the fucking snatches, bro Tested these for you Matthew Frazier five years ago Well, you said JR initial thoughts. I said 12 is Tied as a mother 12 is and and hey, listen that like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,, it's just inappropriate. But like when I see that I'm like, dude, 12 is moving.

Oh, sorry, severe. I will, I will bring it down. I'll bring it back in. I did a round of this workout, uh, earlier in the week, like in Charlotte, I did a round faster than I would be able to do around for eight, probably. And it took me a minute 26 and you have to go sub one 30 for eight rounds to make the cap. It's no, no one's making, ah, I don't know. Drake, Drake, I want to know if you tested this, if you tested this workout. And if so, just be honest, it's not going to affect your performance tomorrow. No one else is watching this other than Bryson.

You're safe. Did you finish it? I, cause I don't think I could finish this workout in 12 minutes. Also imagine what the floor setup is like. If you have to walk five feet to the barbell, that's already too much time. Yeah. Drake says testing about 15 minutes. There's another workout that's going to explode your cranium.

Hey, that workout got changed though Oh, well, I don't want to talk about this one or this one or another one different one a different one All right, so this is this is the next event cap seems unreal I'm also not sure what they're doing with the numbers here No idea No idea and what the fuck are the 24 double unders for? I just, okay. Do you think the easiest way to fix this workout would just be make the bar 135?

Uh... At least you have to change to make it like make sense. I feel like you could just change it to 135 and then it's at least like, okay, it kind of makes sense. Or make it four. Or, yeah, four, or yeah, make it four snatches or make it five rounds or six rounds. I mean, I don't know if you want, it depends on if you want people to finish, I guess, if they want people working for 12 minutes straight, then just, I don't

know, call it an AMRAP at that point, dude. I haven't seen the rest of the programming, but up to this point, there's been no gymnastics. So I think having the 64 and 32 is needed. I don't think we need to change the eight rounds. If anything, I would say it could just be a monostructural gymnastics workout. You could take out the snatches altogether, but I think making it four is good. What weight dumbbell? What weight dumbbell at 100? Because that's even harder, in my opinion. I think that's easier. Really 100 pound dumbbell. I just think you put two hands on a 165 bar. I mean, I would, I would, I think it's easier to with 100 for sure.

Yeah. Or maybe he had like a 70 or something. I was 170. I don't know. Maybe I'm naive. I just 165 is not hard. I don't know. I love it with the with the dumbbell weight. I think that would have been awesome.

Okay. So we'll blame this one on Brigham. He was like, I think people would definitely get capped. Holy fuck and Pete and Patrick Clark's just sitting in the back of the show. What does that have to do with Patrick Clark? No, dude he's on Brian's show. Oh. Yeah what are you talking about bro? You're just talking about come on man. Fuck me, man. All right. Anyways next workout Survival pack sandbag weights officially announced on be friendly fitness and the weights are 150 for guys and 70 for ladies.

What the fuck, sir? Sorry. This is crazy. We got to talk about what this workout originally was. So Bryson, you have to use an hour ago. So Bryson, you have to hold it in like a Zercher position like this to squat it. Uh, I think the brief for this event is technically going on right now. I mean it says front and the way you describe that bag there's no way you're like doing a true front rack so you have to like hold it in front of your body like this. Or have your hands underneath it but I would I don't fucking know. Doing this would be so hard with the 150. Well I mean like

holding it like this like a super super grip, like holding it. Maybe you can hold it long ways up and down too, or bear hug it. Yeah. Yeah. I wonder if it's just sand, like if you can just, maybe you just have to shoulder it like this or something. I don't know. So here's the other thing, JR, before they changed the workout, it was three rounds for time. 18 cal ski, 18 front squat 18 18 18 ground overhead with 150 pounds sandbag What the fuck look at the time cap nine minutes? So you gotta do a movement a minute

crazy, bro a Movement it was the same thing. He was like he was like, yeah This is a tough time cap. I think some people get capped for sure. Good gracious. Yeah. These caps are really, that's really hard. I don't think anyone, I don't think anyone's finishing the third round with nine ground overhead. There's no way I still, I still think it's an AMRAP even with nine.

Yeah. I don't think anyone finishes this workout. I would be shocked If somebody finishes this workout, can you imagine that that I'm sorry for interrupt you Taylor that that sandbag could you? Could you do it like a worm like could you do it? Like could you turn it longways and do it like you would do a worm clean like? Sandbag in between your legs kind of flip it up on the shoulder and then go over to the other side? That's what I was kind of, I was wondering that

because when they brought them out today, because the same sandbags we used in the second event today and when they brought them out, everyone is just instantly thinking about this workout. Like, how are we gonna do 18 ground overhead with these fucking bags? So everyone was just kind of practicing different stuff. I was wondering that I kind of I got it to my shoulder but then it was just kind of awkward so I didn't really

practice it. I was like I'll just worry about it tomorrow. How much longer is it than the pill? Because you've seen it at the gym. Same length. I think it's the same. Oh is it? I have a picture if you guys can see this. Yeah so you could kind of do that like you could you could you could do it like a worm clean and jerk But you don't yeah, that's what they're doing here. You think it's actually like they have to extend overhead I was wondering You remember how Justin picked up the sandbags at the games like this I was wondering if you could like almost do that how some people do axle bar cleans and then switch your grip to here and not even hold handles and just get it overhead. Oh yours has handles. Your back has handles. Yeah. Okay. One side has handles like this and

one side has handles like this. It's just crazy to me guys because look an 18 cal ski that's a minute for a lot of these guys 18 front squats probably also a minute with 150 pound bag for a lot of these guys, 18 front squats, probably also a minute with 150 pound bag for a lot of these guys or at least recovering for the remainder of that minute. So a minute then getting the sandbag to the shoulder or wherever to squat it and then putting it down and recovering from that effort another minute. And then imagine this a barbell, you're telling me you're doing nine cleaning jerks at 155 in a minute.

Most of these guys that would be hard doable but hard. Doable. Yeah. I was gonna say like if you have those handles on the front of the bag and it's a hundred pounds it's reasonable because a lot of people would probably just leave their hands on the handles and not drop it but a 150 sounds dude that sounds brutal. Yeah I'll be the first to admit that like this wouldn be my jam anyway, but I will say I saw a lot of people trying to do ground overhead and I didn't see a single fucking ground overhead. I'm not even lying. I saw so many people practice it and everyone was just looking around like, what the fuck,

dude? Yeah. When you told me that the guy said 150-70, I was like, no way he's correct. Dude, Carl's been stressing out about it the whole time. And I was like, stop stressing about it. He doesn't know what he's talking about. He's wrong. He's the owner.

He didn't program the workout. He doesn't know what he's talking about. It's not at 150. And then they bring out those 150 today and I was like, hey, we're fucked anyway. So that's normal. These guys are crazy. Okay. That's a event five.

All right. So we got one, two, three, four, five, right? And then this was six. Okay. So Matterhorn, oh, it's just a two day competition. Three. Okay. Matterhorn, Matterhorn.

Is this real? Oh, they changed it. Wow. That's a huge change. What was it originally? Two minute accumulate two minutes in a bottom ring dip hold. I gotta pee. Keep talking. Oh accumulate so not like a as long as you can hold situation. Oh maybe I read it wrong. Maybe it was like two minute window and you just had to get as much ring dip holding time as you can hold situation. Oh maybe I read it wrong. Maybe it was like two minute window and you just had to get as much ring dip holding time as you could. I read it as accumulated two minute bottom ring to fold. That's what I practice. I guess I can see the old screenshots what they said. Either way, anything on the rings. Is this good for you? Yeah. Four time, two minute accumulate bottom ring dip hold is what it used to be. Gotcha. So I'm assuming you had to accumulate that, um,

and actually get to two minutes. Yeah. Drake's so the same thing. And then you got the, the one fifties, like similarly to that, uh that up and back. Well, I guess it wasn't up and back But the sprint carry in the sled. So you is it I'm guessing this is like the same flow It'll be on the same thing. Yeah Same I think everything's on the same like field. What is the cap here for this? Do we know? Doesn't yeah, it hasn't said. Because a 150 foot lunge in between the 300 foot of burpee broad jump is going to be nasty. Yeah. So I wonder if this is two scores now because when it started with accumulate 2 minute bottom ring dip, it's just for time. That was just part of the workout?

Yeah. It has to be two scores. Or yeah, I would imagine, um, it says scoring faster is better. Who knows? I forgot to tell you guys my workouts. Maybe I'll do that at the end of the show. Um, maybe subtract seconds or something. That would be such a waste.

Yeah. Subtract 20 seconds for 20 muscle ups. It would have to be like subtract five seconds per muscle up. Right. Um, wait, Drake Lewis. Oh, is that, is that an old comment? Late comment? We are trying to figure out what it used to say.

If it was, if it was two minutes to get as much time as you could, or you had to accumulate two minutes, but it used to say accumulate two minutes. Am I being a dick about this program guys? Drake, let know in the comments if I'm being a dick. I'm really not trying to be a dick. I like a lot of the... I love this... Are people in the comments saying that? No I just don't want to beat too hard on the guy. That... No I do like the name. No, I do like the name. Matterhorn's a great name, but what, this is the problem. Do you think one is just, again, like the snatches in the other workout? Like it's just like, okay, why this is the whole workout then?

Yeah, it's definitely the whole workout. Depending on the Burpee broad jump standard. I mean a football field, oh, sorry, it's 300. Yeah, 300 feet. A football field's worth of burpee broad jumps is no, like that's not, that's no joke. Yeah. Am I, sorry. Yeah, that's right.

Right JR? That's a football, yeah, fuck I'm feeling tarted. That's a lot of burpees. I would think two burpee broad jumps is probably five yards. Maybe less. Gosh, maybe not. Yeah, definitely not. It's probably three.

I'll say four. I think I was asking Drake about this actually earlier because he was saying they did burpee broad jumps last year and he said the standard was that you had to just replace your feet with your hands basically Which is really hard to judge bro. Yeah Let's see I'm thinking probably I Would say eight burpee broad jumps seven to eight every ten yards JR. What do you think? Let's be I would I would just say you're covering five foot

of burpee broad jump. I would just make it easy like that. I don't think you're doing five feet. I'm not. I'm not. Yeah, I think you're probably doing like, I don't know, let's say 300 feet divided by four feet, 75 burpees, burpee broad jumps.

The thing is- I've done them a lot. And it seems like a lot of people can step up and keep moving a lot more efficiently. Just don't jump your feet to your hands and you're good. Oh, step your feet up? Yeah, like step up like you would a bar facing burpee if you had to do like 200 for time or something.

This is what I was gonna say. It's kind of like hopping when you're doing it for distance like that. But one of the ways that Taylor's done it on Sentinel before I even like was helping with Sentinel and stuff was a six foot or five foot for women, two lines apart from each other and you do reps. And then it's a true broad jump because people are actually jumping.

I'm surprised. I'm surprised. No one's ever done that. The competition. I think we saw a floor plan of South of maybe the African semifinal one year and we're like trying to figure out what the tape lines meant. And I think we're both like, Hey, what if the what if those lines are like for for for burpee broad jobs and you have I think that's super cool I just think it's it's just asking for bad standards and movement and you don't really get what you want out of the athletes when you have it for distance like this this is important to note that a lot of it has changed due to equipment restrictions This is important to note that a lot of it has changed due to equipment restrictions.

That's typically how she goes. Do you think that's like whoever supplying the equipment just wasn't able to send all the all the stuff that they said they were going to be able to like dumbbells and stuff or is kind of like Joe Biden not supplying hurricane Helene victims 100% no I don't think that's the issue I think when you ask for programming from someone, you give that programmer the strict parameters that you have. And if there's somebody who's great, you say, Hey, do whatever you want with what we have. Here are our parameters, not, Hey, write us a program and then we'll make it fit to our equipment. That doesn't really work. It's got, it's gotta be really frustrating. Um, I know like if,

I know if I was told after the fact fact after I'd already completed the whole thing, I'm like, I might as well start over again, because it's not the same. It's not the same now. Like we need to just start from scratch. If there's gonna, if you got to take out one thing and have to change everything else. If you want to go to competition, it's not going to have any equipment limitations, crash crucible. Although you got to qualify for that. I'm not even counting the sandbag carry because it's not I mean it's not you're just picking up once But I'm not even counting the sandbag carry because it's not I mean it's not you're just picking up once I'm not even counting the sandbag carry because it's not I mean it's not you're just picking up once I'm not even counting the sandbag carry because it's not I mean it's not you're just picking up once I'm not even counting the sandbag carry because it's not I mean it's not you're just picking up once

I'm not even counting the sandbag carry because it's not I mean it's not you're just picking up once pulling from the floor. Good, I fucking like the beating up of the back. So snatches from the ground. I'm not even counting the sandbag carry, because it's not, I mean it's not, you're just picking it up once. Ground to overhead. Shut the fuck up Jose. Ground to overhead, and then the deadlifts and the hand cleans.

Like there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot of pulling from the floor. And the sandbag is gonna hurt people. Final summit. Oh my God, ring dips. After muscle ups. When I remember it wasn't originally muscle. Yeah, I was going to say that.

I don't like that either. That's even worse. This is this seems pretty obvious to me that there were a lot of changes. What just from the simple standpoint running that's three. That's three workouts with shuttle runs. Four bro. Four. One here. Two here. Oh, I didn't even think about the one that we just looked at. And then the same back carry one and the beep test. Yeah. Yeah. And then four. That's crazy. And are there any machines? There's an echo in that one we just looked at, right?

And a Ski-erg. Yeah, so I mean, they've got some monitors. Oh my god. Rapid rings is sponsoring. Stop it. Are they really? Yeah, I think I saw where the... It's a fuck out of town. What was their name again? Say it again.

Rapid rings. Rapid rings. There you go. rapid rings rapid rings there you go rapid rings that's the kind of rings Taylor uses 30 30 and then like okay three three and two at the end. Gotcha. So another four minute workout. Damn bro. Jay, Jay, I was rated. This is, this is where we get down to the meat and potatoes of the show.

This is what you guys all want to know. When we rate competitions going forward, we're just going to a simple one to 10 scale rated on a scale of one to 10. Can we even rate this one though, without knowing how much of it was changed? And it doesn't fucking matter. We are rating what we're seeing on the screen. Yes. We can say, Hey, of these workouts written as they are written on this screen, one to 10, I'll go first if you need me to.

Yeah. Cause even, even if the workouts were changed or equipment, the athletes are still doing these workouts. I'm still getting ass pounded, dude. Yeah, are you a little bit, do you have any swelling back there? Yeah, I've also shit like four times a day, so it's just a combination of wiping too much. How many total events are there? Eight.

Eight. Eight. Eight. should have wiped it too much. So how many total events are there? Uh, yeah, well, I don't know, maybe nine scores if that muscle up score is a separate one. Eight scores running in four of them. Time domains, I think in four of them are four minutes or faster. This is one. Let me go to another. Hey, I'll say this real quick, profoundly. If that complex is 100, then the muscle-up should be 100. The beep test was 102. I say you make all three of the single modalities 100. Yeah, oh, they have to be. Well, the handstand walk was 100.

Oh, it was? Yeah. Okay, then the ring muscle-ups probably won't be. I would say... Was that just 50, 50-50 for Tom? Yeah. There's also one thing to note. There's nothing over 15 minutes. Really? Nothing over 15 minutes. This...

Does this competition have a lot of divisions? Does it have a lot of teams and stuff like that too? Yeah. Okay, so there's like doubles, triples, um, and then masters and intermediate RX. So Mount Olympus six minute window back to back, you have total time cap of nine minutes. Then that's a two and a half minute workout. Right. So flat repeats, you have a 15 minute time gap switchbacks. You have 12 minutes survival pack.

You have nine minutes Matterhorn. I would bet is, you know, another 12 max final summit, four minute. Yeah. Hey, and I think like me and Taylor did a show one time about how to mess up a competition. We're talking about things that you could do for a competition that would disappoint the athletes or would make athletes think, I don't know if I want to come back or not. And I'll admit this is one of the hardest things for me and every single year I do it. I actually did it this year. It is really really hard to

think about the schedule before you think about the workouts you want to program and then retroactively go back. So like let's just say that that ski workout was really supposed to be 15 minutes and let's say that the let's say that the eight rounder was supposed to be 18 minutes But because you started making the schedule is like dude We can't end at 10 o'clock at night like we all all you can do is say okay take from eight rounds to four or five or Let's just put a let's just make it an AMRAP without calling it an AMRAP because for crucible this year to AMRAP because for Crucible this year, Mad Moon should be a, honestly, should be a 30 minute cap.

If I want everyone to finish it, even the slowest runners, it should be a 30 minute cap. And it's 24. And I would say maybe a third of the field finishes it on each side. Like that's a really hard cap. And a lot of people would be like, well, dude, everyone should have to feel those 45 deadlifts.

And everyone should have to feel the 3k of running like I know, but I tell the athletes in the welcome email we will be done by five on Sunday. And that is a lot to me because I know people travel a long way and they need to get back to their families and stuff. So yeah, I wrote the workout and I was like, I'm just I'm gonna make I'm gonna I'm to shorten the cap so that we can be done. And that's a, it's a hard place to be in. So looking at the programming for this competition, it seems to me. Like these workouts were written with very different time caps, and then some of them had to be placed, uh, just to get the schedule under control. I think Mad Moon will be the longest, potentially the longest workout you've ever had at crucible for most athletes. If it won the first year was a 25 minute cap.

Yeah, was it? Yeah. Oh, I was 23, 19 or something and I was like one of three people that finished. NBD. Yep. Do you think if a competition has an elite division that they like actually want to be elite, they need to limit how many other divisions they have for this point. I do. And that's what I'm not saying. And that's, and that's the, that's the really, really hard part of me and Taylor talked about this before.

If you want to make money, you have to have some teams. You have to have, I mean, even if you want to give a really good prize person, individuals, you have to have teams or you have to have I mean, even if you want to give a really good prize purse to the individuals, you have to have teams or you have to have other divisions. But it's just kind of like, hey, what's what's the decision to make? And a lot of competition seems like they're going back a little bit to the old school, hey, one day competition, or maybe two days of competition, or hey, Friday and Saturday as individual and then Sunday, all you guys can sign up and do teams if you want

like a lot of people seem like they're going back to that so that they can walk away with a little bit of money. It's really, really hard to do that though, to say, hey, we're only going to have 100 athletes and I still want to make money. I mean, you're looking at someone who's trying to do that. I think you have to have a qualifier. But then having a qualifier you have to have some notoriety like you have to get the name built up a little bit so people want to do the qualifier and people who aren't even going to qualify sign up. You have to be willing. You have to be willing to work extremely

hard for sure. But you also have to be willing to break even for like five years. You have to be or like if you really want to if you want to grow something that you know people want to be willing to break even for like five years. You have to be. Or, like, if you really want to, if you want to grow something that, you know, people want to be a part of as far as sponsors wanting to get behind and all that kind of stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, Charlotte Classic will not be doing elite division. I don't think ever again.

I don't have no interest in doing it. There's a bunch of prima donna bitches. Um, and I just have no interest in catering to the elite athletes anymore. So kudos to you, JR. You do a fantastic job of it. Um, but again, I think what's like for me, and like you said, what makes money and what is not as stressful is doing that community style of event. Like, you know, man, like, like, how do you take NorCal's crazy? Cause the connections they have and the sponsors they get, I think they just get a fuck ton of money. It's unbelievable. Yeah.

But I want to run an event like that where it's just a massive community vibe without elite, where I can put people in the desert for a five and a half mile trail run in half of them get off in ambulances Hey On the beep test workout. I didn't see this in the elite division So I'm not saying like oh, I should be last night JR 1 to 10. Do you want me to go first? I? Think you should let Bryson finish the point. He was halfway through

Well, I asked 1 to 10 an hour ago and we still haven't given it Bryson So the way they had the judging was a judge on each line and the judge would thumbs up the other judge if the person made It's because the person was already turning around once it gets close, you know I saw this one heat. There's two judges and this one guy Three in a row didn't touch the line. And the other judge, and the judge like thumbs down to the other judge as in like, Hey, this guy's done. But I guess the other person wasn't paying attention and they let him just keep going.

He got like five, six more beeps. And then I'm like the fourth one. They were finally just like, Hey, you're done. They were just like way too scared to say anything. Cause he just kept running. Did he get those points? I'm assuming. Cause he kept, oh dude, and they started, they started it's because they started giving him good reps afterwards. Like they gave him a thumbs down and then he would get a good one and

another thumbs down and get a good one. Another thumbs down, get a good one. And then he got a couple more good ones. And then he got a final thumbs down. That's ass. Tyler walk-ins. Wow. got a couple more good ones and then he got a final thumbs down. That's ass. Tyler Watkins, wow. Oh, here we go. Mr. Self, don't you need your rest for Kill Taylor tomorrow or are you a night owl?

We're doing it 3 p.m. tomorrow. It's also 7.30 for me. Huh? 7.30 for me. JR? What's the workout? I'm not announcing the workout. Thirty rope climbs for time.

Cool. It's about time. Someone needs to program at the competition. That's a great workout. It's 9.30 on Friday. WTF is this mate? What's your best 30 for time? No clue. Never done it.

Never done it. Never done it. You're going to love this. One time I, I did, I did it like, and I've heard this story. Oh, I've heard the story about Spencer and Andy just being like, there's no chance or whatever. Like, tell me. I think I don't know why I told him my thought. Maybe I could go sub five, like six a minute and Spencer handle probably the best rope climber ever in the games I don't know one of the if definitely one of the so good not only at legless, but regular I mean he destroyed everyone in thruster legless 2015 regional soccer chipper. I think he won or took second to Ben Smith

He's just very good at rope climbs He was like there's no chance dude, you can't He was like, there's no chance, dude. You can't do that. And I was like, nah, bro, you're not as fit as me right now. You wouldn't know was not sub five. Doesn't sound like something. Did he watch you do it? No, I sent him the video though. I told him my time. He was like, yeah, I fucking told you nerd. He actually didn't say that. He was like, yeah, tough workout. He's too nice. Spencer's like Dina Bryson and Andy Marie is like coach. Okay.

That makes sense. Uh, we doing this tomorrow and Sunday. Doing what? Yes. Yeah. We're doing a, we're doing a day two, uh, recap. This is programming show and recap of day one. Yeah, okay, so are we gonna get a one to ten rating or what? I'll give it. This is a three and a half. I know when I texted you earlier you asked what it was, one

to ten, and you asked me if it was a five and I said ah maybe a four. I asked you because I hadn't seen any of the workouts. I know, what are we working with? You said, what are we working with? I said, ah, maybe a four. And after going through these, it's a tough 3.5. Like it's hard for me to give it that much. And look, this is a very, this isn't an unrealistic rating system. It's not subjective entirely. There are a lot of objective points here. And I would say on a scale, like a grading scale, it's very difficult to get above an eight.

I would say it's extremely difficult. One workout with squatting. Correct? And then one workout with. Well, if you count the hang cleans, but yeah, one workout squat. No, no. Yeah, I don't. Okay.

I go five. The people who did well hang power clean. You give it a full five. I go five. Why? You motherfucker. You give it a full five. I go five. Why you motherfucker? Look at you. Honestly, I never thought you would have gone through.

I would have never thought you would have gone 3.5. And in my head, I was like, well, I'm going to go up at least a point from wherever Taylor goes. Okay. At least give it a 4.5. I could, but I thought you would probably go for, and I bet no one is saying that Adrian Conway is a three and a half out of 10 programmer We he's a three and a half out of 10 looker. I would say That means nothing coming from me

He has a good-looking he is a good-looking guy and I'm extremely envious of his glutes. Yes. Yes. Yeah But no, but yeah There was obviously limitations with the equipment all that stuff But no, but yeah, there was obviously limitations with the equipment, all that stuff. Probably like Jared said. Hey, you don't have to be nice. You're not doing that. No, that's not nice, dude.

I'm saying, we're not saying Adrian Conway's a three and a half out of 10 programmer. We're saying these workouts, or you're saying these workouts are three and a half out of 10 for workouts. And that has nothing to do with Adrian. That has everything to do with the competition. Well, he programmed them. He programmed them.

No, you're saying this, Taylor. You tail you're saying hey there are no limitations program whatever you want if these were the eight that we were given you would give it a 3.5 literally you have you there there are no rules just program giving it a 3.5 because these are the literal workouts that Bryson and Drake and these other fucking guys are doing what I'm'm not saying, you're right, I'm not saying Adrian's a three and a half programmer, but I am saying he programmed the workouts. Maybe this Brigham guy. But did he program the workouts or did he program workouts that were kind of like these that got changed?

He programmed the workouts and some fucking guy named Brigham changed them all, but that doesn't change the fact that this is the test. It's a three and a half bro. Dude, I'm going to get kicked out of the competition. Danny, Danny shut the fuck up. Like this is don't, if anyone's trying to tell me that you would give this better than a five, I would say you don't know shit about working out or programming competition. You just don't know jack dick about programming. A three and a half out of ten is appropriate for this.

A five out of ten is generous. And I would probably say there's maybe, there's probably not very many competitions that have ever happened that I would rate over an eight and a half. What would you rate the Charlotte Classic last year? Do we want to pull up the workouts real fast? Well, what did you... I had to pull them up. What did you rate NorCal?

Programming. I don't care about it. Programming wise... Programming, what was NorCal for you? A five and a half or a six. I was going to say six. I don't know. And hey, if they left the bucket hold a five, but you're just saying that because you didn't do well on it.

No, I'm saying that because the standard was insane, bro. Stop. Anything like that. Now is that rating the judging or is that rating the programming? I'm rating the programming cause they didn't make it clear with the judges, what the standards were So if I had to rate The NorCal classic On a scale of how sick it was to be there. It's like a fucking 20 out of 10. Did you okay? Yeah, okay? Here we go

one mile run hang snatch, dumbbell squat. Hey, are you, are you glad that you did it like this? 100, what do you mean? Yeah, they're all, they're all going to be out. Here you go. Here's all of them in one post. Or do you like the, you're going to get one a night for a week?

I think I announced them one at a time. Like was that annoying to you? I think I announced them one at a time and then put this post out. Okay. Do you like that or would you have, would you like like to have more just all like semi-finals does? I don't. Well, it just depends on when you're going to release them. If you're going to release them, I like one at a time.

And by the last one, you have two weeks till crash. That's cool. Or I like, don't announce any of them until the night before brief them all and then let's rip. I like that a lot. I've never done a competition where we didn't know the workouts until we did them. But I would love to do that. Yeah.

I would say this, JR, if I could give one recommendation for crash, not that you're going to take it, people would complain that you will get a, you'll get a lot of complaints, but dude, I think the, the athletes that want to compete there would be fucking stoked to do that. It would be to not announce, to not announce, yeah. Don't let them fuck with it. And if you're about it, like next year, like the- Maybe one year I'll do that. The field gets deeper each year, bro. And if you're about it, you don't give a fuck. Let's go.

Let's fucking ride. And it's cool because then you actually get to train crossfit going into it, as opposed to specializing because that's what I hate specializing Okay. So here we go first workout I'm just looking at them second workout Oh sick ass workout, bro This was a sick workout too This workout was a fucking shit show I did did not do this right. The wall walk.

Oh, dude. That's awesome that you said that. Cause I was going to say like, I wonder if he'll just say, God, I'm such an idiot. Cause I, I say that at least once a year. I'm an idiot. I should have done one. I should have done complexes, four complexes, three complexes too, instead of four wall walks plus four, three wall walks plus three. So I fucked that up big time. This one was cool. This back to back part was sick. So I, like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, you go. This workout right here is classic Taylor self. No one ever hits the eight 17 to 18 ish minute time domain. That is this. That is this. That is this. It's an extremely painful workout. Um, Oh, well, was this okay? Yeah. This was the final. God, what a great one. I, okay. So did you end up cutting them there? Yeah, I cut them all like there but like yeah, did you did you end up making it dramatic?

I had our X basically do their rope climb workout fuck up all the ropes that were already fucked up and then cut these at 60 inches God and and dude I still Damn see going back over these makes me so excited about it and bummed I took this year off but but the theme the dark tower Stephen King theme I'm Dude, I have like 17 veins popping out of my dick right now. I'm so hard Hey also if you want to talk about home cooking two weeks before this I visited Charlotte for the first time and Taylor taught me how to do cut rope climbs and I destroyed my heat and

This work out because of that Well climbs and I destroyed my heat in this workout because of that. Well, you showed up and you asked how to do cut rope climbs, bro. I'm a coach. I can't help it. I want to help people, dude. If someone would ask me, hey, how do I do a cut rope climb? I would tell them to go fuck themselves. I'll say, hey, dude, this is exactly how you do it. Okay. Hanging, pressing, the redundancy on day two, the redundancy on day one, all of that was purposeful. I mean, this is probably, I would say because of this workout, the back squat, front squat, uh, front squat, overhead squat. And because of this workout and, and I like this workout, but I also don't, there are parts of it where I'm like, man, I wish I would have done something

a little differently. Just the 11 shoulder overhead at one 65 was like, blah. Like I wish I had something different to play with. Like maybe I wish I had an axle bar or maybe I wish I had done it with dumbbells or maybe I had, you know, just something different, but there already isn't a lot of different in the competition. I think that's where local competitions get in trouble is trying to do too many things. It's like, Oh, they did that at this competition last year.

Like it's like, dude, have one cool thing. Like, Hey, a beep test, super cool. That's different. No one has done that. It's awesome. And then that should be like the only different thing and then everything else is just like CrossFit stuff. Yeah, I I would give this competition honestly Programming alone. I don't know. I would say a seven and a half, 75% easy 75%, maybe even 76, 77, 78%. What's your honest, what's your, what's your honest Jr. And well, you say seven Bryson and what's your biggest drawback?

Like why seven? Why not eight? Uh, you did all these workouts. Yeah. Maybe I guess seven and a half. If I'm just thinking relative to other competitions too. No, why wasn't it perfect? You're thinking period.

Do you think it can be perfect with five events? This was one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. Okay. Is the squatting just the squat workout? Oh no, there was dumbbell squats. The hundred dumbbell squats. Yeah. Were you not sore after that event? You probably didn't go fast enough to be sore. I remember. Hey, text Sergio and ask him how beat up he was after that first workout.

Yeah, he was probably. JR. Because he destroyed everyone. Oh, I know you I know he was He probably freaking practice it every single day he does he does stuff like that Yeah, he's the guy was talking about he he he did the the biker drag rope and today's in there doing bike biker drag rope Intervals he wants you already good. I want to win that work out but chill chill, serge. I'm gonna fuck you up in that workout Bryson you got to give me a reason why. I mean, I'm fine with it being a seven and a 10. You just got to tell me.

Keep going. Keep scrolling again. Just slowly. Next one. Next one. Next one. I don't know. I mean, do you think that it would be dumb to have a workout with like shorter runs in it? Like a rounds for time with three or four hundreds?

Or do you think the miles, the running in the first workout is already too much? That's two, that's three miles of running in that workout. And then we have biker and rower. Yeah. Well, I just think machines are different than. Right. But I don't think you need to run twice in a seven. I don't think drag rope is a monostructural the same way that like just

normal double unders are monostructural. So what I see, what I see real quick is this, these standards were challenging a really cool workout, but it was an effective, but it was challenging with the ring dip. Biggest things I see are burpee sandbag get overs. This is basically a sandbag clean. And then the next event has heavy cleans in it. And then botching this wall complex.

And for me, I think that and me not being super in love with the shoulder overhead here, um, makes it a seven out of 10, but you can't give me a reason. So I feel like it was just, I feel like there was too many workouts that were just, if you're strong enough or if your muscles can take it and it wasn't like, cause drag rope is just who, whose triceps and biceps can burn the longest. It's not like how hard can you breathe? Where double unders I would say, or it's like, how hard can you breathe? But you don't breathe it. You get to a point on double unders where you're just not breathing

anymore. It's just, it's just heart rate. And it's like, you just can keep going forever. Yeah. But I just think that first workout is the only one that was like out of breath and the other stuff was like muscular failure. You're telling me this workout was muscular failure? Yeah. You need to get better muscle endurance. I was one of the only people who freaking finished it. And you're telling me this workout was not metabolic? Uh, that workout was.

I know it was. And you're telling me you didn't feel this wasn't metabolic here? I'm just thinking of my experience doing the, doing the competition. I just felt like every time I was in a workout, I was getting bottlenecked by my muscles, not my breathing. And maybe that's a meat problem. I would agree. JR. I need agree. JR?

I need to rate this? Yeah, they rated. Now we're here, dude. I was listening to everything that Bryson said. I would rate it an 8, as is. For me, I don't like that you have dumbbells twice. And I don't like that you have dumbbells twice and I don't like that you have one, two, three, four workouts with a barbell.

Wait, wait, wait. One, two, three. Oh, sorry. You have three. My bad. Yeah. Three barbell, two dumbbell. Three barbell, two dumbbell. Like you said, and I don't even think the back to back, I mean, hey, I think the wall complex, the way you describe it would have been better. But this is just my

snobbiness of liking to use a lot of lot of objects. I would love I would have loved to carry but you kind of already have a carry because you're running with weight. So it kind of kind of does the same thing. All right, now let's go to Jay. Good. I mean, it is good. No, I'm done, guys. It's a 945. All right. We definitely don't need to rate my program. I'm with Bryson. I'm with Bryson for however long we want to be here, bro. So get out of here. I'm going to pick a year. I'm going to go year three. I just feel like eight is the year you want or the next year. I know that's after that's the loop. I want to read it. That's a Luke.

Yeah. Before you go, do you have something in mind that you know is a 10 and then you're basing everything else off of what a 10 is? No, I don't think I have a 10. Yeah, I don't know what a 10 would be. It would be crazy. And no, I kind of, I kind of think of them all like individually, like there's not, there are obviously boxes, but like some people don't need to have the, oh, you're doing a

bunch of pressing and you have no pulling or you're doing all hinging and no squatting. Like I think there are levels. I think no one's getting above a seven that doesn't understand small things like that. Also I know I'm extremely biased. Like typically, typically I'm extremely biased to midline and high skill where just it kind of just feels like that's always there. But this year is not and that's I would give all of I did that purposefully because I knew that it was getting a little bit too specific and that it

needed to just it needed to just hurt more. I think this one is hurt like the first year. I would say I'd give all of your events above a seven for sure. And I give three of them like above an eight. And there are two, maybe I don't know if it's two years or one year. There's one year, like you said, where it was like a lot of skill. And I was like, Hmm, yeah, maybe it was last year, I think. Um, but damn year one, I love this years are nasty. I haven't, I've not been thinking about the workouts like in from an analytical standpoint, I can't do that. Um, so I went to this one, but I can't, they won't show up. Like I don't, I know you always say that you can't do that

when you're competing, but I don't see how you don't do that. Like I just start doing that when I see workouts. He does it. He just doesn't want to know. I hundred percent do not. I 100% compartmentalize. I haven't thought a single second about. We actually hasn't said a thing to me about anything like that at all.

Um, I, I have no, like I have literally no, I haven't done any sort of analysis or putting workouts into context with another, all I've thought about with your programming this year is how I can do my best in each workout and that's really how I approach it. Um, well, you did say one thing specifically about one of the movements. What? Oh yeah.

I said the burpee get over 40 inches was gay. Yeah. And by gay, I mean, it was too short. And then he tested it. And once you tell everyone what your test time was, cause, cause obviously it was pretty good as far as the height goes. Who said my test time was good. I got the living fuck out of me, bro. I'm asked

Okay, so my point in saying that is it seems like it was an appropriate height Buddy, I would have been higher you to go on slower. Yeah, I Would say The reason you're right the height was because he thinks he would do better relative to the field if it was higher. If you had to be more, I got you. Yeah, but that's not even like a programming thing, that's just him thinking about it.

I was cleaning up all the trees in my yard with no power, extremely happy catching up on Kiltailer. When I saw that, I was like, well, I found a different way to do the burpees and I did a tester of that workout not a tester training in an interval of it today and I absolutely destroyed it so my confidence is riding high going in and when I tested it well I have a question what plates are we going to be using like for that workout on the barbell are they 45s and a 25 and a five on the shorty bar? Yeah. What, what do you, like,

I test when I tested it, I use these again, faster 55s on the concrete and I don't bounce my dead list, but everyone gets momentum from the weights bouncing off. But in the last round, you were straight up like arms bent before you read the standards is the same from the qualifiers. They are for this. If the ground. In the last round, you were straight up, like, arms bent before you got to the finish line. You read the standards, it's the same from the qualifiers. They are for this. If the arms bend during the lift, they'll be caught. Yeah, I don't bend the arms.

You're good. But those 55s were like... But, nah, they'll be the black. Crazy. They'll be the black. Echo. Thinner bumpers. Yeah, and then...

Echo bumpers. And then the first plate will probably be one of the thicker Echos. So I'm saying, you know what I'm saying? The ones that, the ones that stopped completely dead. Ah, okay. The ones you guys use for quarter finals to do the snatch workout. Shut the fuck up. You guys, I do not do deadlifts like that. And the fact that Bryson is you little fucking shit you mother fuck the last couple rounds that work out were crazy not the last couple rounds not the last couple

rounds it was the last round and i was already tapped out probably last fucking done with this yeah you were you were like it looked like you were like trying to pick it up and like hey are you coming here are you coming into town tomorrow or no tomorrow or for sunday or no i'm not sure yet depends i the only thing i'd like to do before the competition is well we have well fuck i gotta pick peter up thursday from the charlotte airport i'll have the i'll have everything out wednesday and thursday but okay i just need to touch the flip sled and and play with the sled drive but you know i've been doing I've been pushing the torque tank on the front two wheels. And that's really fucking hard. Because you can't put I don't think

it's gonna feel that much different. You can't put your hands like this on the torque tank, you have to hold on to the things and it's really weird. Do you guys remember when they did the deadlifts at water Palooza with steel plates? Yeah, they did it on a what's the hardest. What's that tiny thing? Yeah. Yeah, that's a killer. Well, Peter, Seth, Chase Ingram and Hiller all broke down their predictions of Crash Cruiser. If you want to go watch the most recent Around the Whiteboard. You can see Seth Page make himself look like a dumbass. Hilar's got a great prediction. Chase doesn't really know what he's talking about.

And that's where we're going to end this thing. That was fun. That was heavy as fuck. Oh, that water water blues a workout Why do you not want to come to masters is any a master is he not that good For him to or are you taking shots at him for calling the slug? What? What I don't look at the comments. What are you talking about? I didn't see any comments I'm just stirring the pot. What are you talking about? I didn't see any comments.

I'm just stirring the pot. No, but I, no, but I, I, I, he says I suck. He does not suck. He's fit. I don't know. That's what, that's what I want to know why he didn't, I, I kind of think he tries to compete. I don't think he tries to compete. I think he's just like incredibly fit. Do masters have to qualify? No, they haven't. But I'm wondering after this year I'll make the call whether I should do a qualifier. I think I probably should. For masters? Hey, is Kenzie Riley competing?

If it's still going to be the same workouts, which I really like the idea of using the same workouts for both divisions, I think some people need to be vetted a little bit more. It makes sense to have a qual more it makes sense is Kenzie Riley competing yep oh sick it was really fun competing with her and Travis Williams and Alexis Johnson and we're still alive oh we are yeah we're live bro we're just chatting up now just a couple of good dudes Kill the stream so we can see what jr wants to say All right guys, it wasn't anything i wanted to say deuces. We'll be back tomorrow night

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