The Sevan Podcast - SHUT UP & SCRIBBLE | Training Partners... and more

Episode Date: February 10, 2024

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Starting point is 00:01:04 It said you read it, bro. I don't have my red receipts on. You're a liar, bro. Look at that. Red. Dang, I need to turn that off. Yeah, you nerd. You got red on there.
Starting point is 00:01:18 I never keep my own. I want hoes knowing if I read that shit or not. All right. So today we're going to talk about how me and Haley have been training partners and how Jason and Mal are training partners. And just kidding. That was for the bait. That was for the click.
Starting point is 00:01:37 Haley, Sevan's wife? The thumbnail person, dude. Haley Adams. Oh. Anyways, so what was I going to say? We're going to be talking about training partners. One question that someone actually sent to me, which I kind of wanted to cover. You're kind of doing this already.
Starting point is 00:01:59 So you had that series of benchmark workouts come out that you're testing. You tested a couple weeks ago or maybe a month or two ago, and you're going to test them at another point in time. Do you have a filter on, dude? Some sort of beautification filter on? Why? JR has a beautification filter on, dude, because you just look uncharacteristically
Starting point is 00:02:26 beautiful today. Oh, thank you. I'm using my phone and not my laptop. That's why. That Oh, 100% dude, the iPhone puts an automatic beautification filter on your eyes. You have a beautification filter on. Not even fucking with you. So yeah, so we, we used to do a thing called the crazy eight at the old gym and i think it was just a good way for people to i don't know i'll be a little bit more motivated with daily training because they knew that in six months we're going to retest those to see where we're at it's just ones that i made up uh i think i used like dt in the original one. So the one that we just did, I did like a double DT variation, but smaller chunks.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Yeah. So, I mean, it's just something that I came up with that I started again to keep people a little bit more engaged. So in six months, they'll redo the same test. I will not train. I will not program towards those tests. That's a big part of it. Cause a lot of people are like, are you going to make sure that we do better on these?
Starting point is 00:03:29 And I was like, what do you mean? Am I going to make sure that you better be like, you know, like, are you going to program like DT style workouts every week? So that said, no,
Starting point is 00:03:36 absolutely not. You're going to get better at them because you're going to do CrossFit. And that's why you're going to get better at them. It's fucking nerd right here, dude. I have a stroke. Bryson will be like, hey, I got this workout. I'm going to do this workout tomorrow. And he'll be like, I've done it three times before.
Starting point is 00:03:54 I'll be like, you're not doing that fucking workout again. I have a stroke. I do. I like repeats, but. I am not a test and retest guy. Like, I never like we never we do not do girl or otherwise type benchmark workouts a lot like we don't do a lot of tests and retests and that's probably my fault um because it's really not core to the crossfit methodology as far as repeatable goes but um every now and then like in this case
Starting point is 00:04:27 something like what i did for the gym i think is okay to do and there are people that are very adamant about testing every benchmark once or twice a year you know what i mean and it's just not what i do yeah i don't like i don't like testing and retesting that frequently. I do do it, but not with the frequency that some programs do. Um, so the reason I asked that one, I was curious about that because a guy sent me a message. He was like, Hey, I've been kicking around the idea. And by the way, if you've got a topic you want, you want us to cover, send us a message. We'll try to cover the topic. For example, this today.
Starting point is 00:05:06 This is kind of off the cuff. We're going to talk about some other shit after this. But I wanted to bring this up because it's an interesting question. Hey, I've been kicking around the idea for years of running an annual competition for my affiliate where the workouts are the same each year. So members can actually track progress year on year. same each year so members can actually track progress year on year. We'd love to know your thoughts on if you were to program a one or two day comp for RX athletes made from primarily benchmarks or known CrossFit staples. What would you program, et cetera, et cetera?
Starting point is 00:05:43 I think long story short for me, I don't like that because I think it would give people the incentive to train in a box. I know I'm going to test these five things. I'm going to hammer these five things that I am proven that I think what you should be chasing in CrossFit is like, you need to be chasing variants and the unknown unknowable, in my opinion. I like to train that way. The other day, me and Bryson did our class workout. It was with a 20-minute cap. I sent it to you.
Starting point is 00:06:13 It was 50 barbell box step-ups to a 20-inch box, 75-pound bar. Hold it wherever you want. 50 strict press, 50 GHD, 50 hang power snatch 50 double under two rounds 20 minute cap and i had you suffer to finish the in and under the cap um and it was such it was a stimulus that was unique and that i had not felt in a long time and i remember talking to bryson and being like hey we need to be chasing that unique stimulus that we don't get very often because that's where you're going to get the most adaptation you're going to get the most adaptation from a stimulus that we don't get very often because that's where you're going to get the most adaptation. You're going to get the most adaptation from a stimulus that you're not used to. And when you train yourself in a box, say, okay, you run this yearly comp and it's always going to be grace,
Starting point is 00:06:53 30 muscle ups for time, the CrossFit total and a 5k run. If you're only training those things, sure, you're going to get super fit training with that breadth of fitness regardless, but you're still putting yourself in a box. And I don't think you should be. So that's why I don't like that. And that's why I love the open and semifinals and the games and quarterfinals because to a degree, it's always different. And they do a really good job of always putting something out. That's like, holy shit, that's a stimulus I haven't felt before. And that's what you should be chasing in CrossFit, in my opinion, in your fitness. You should be chasing the untapped, unique, never before felt stimulus, the stimuli. Yeah, it's interesting because when you first read it, the first thought that came to mind was that I really like that for your members. that came to mind was that I really like that for your members. I like the idea of competing against other people, but you're more so going to be drawn to compete against your previous time,
Starting point is 00:07:52 which is also an interesting concept. So I would say that, Jim, if that's what members seem to think would push them in their own training, do it. What I think would be really central as far as the, the reasoning behind it is, Hey, we don't have to go out and run a 5k once a month. We don't have to do it once a week. But if I train you guys long, if I train you guys short, if I train you guys medium, if we run short, if we run long, if you run medium, if we do it with gymnastics, if we do it with weightlifting, if we do it on its own, if we do it with other machines, your 5K is going to continue to improve. And if it's almost like a way to hold up the methodology, I think it would be a great idea. But I do understand what you're saying as far as almost pigeonholing the training a little bit more. I think if the affiliate owner runs the competition and they are also in
Starting point is 00:08:49 charge of the programming throughout the year and they don't inherently bias their programming for their gym towards that competition, I like it. Yeah. And I'll be the first to admit, it's kind of hard not to do that. Right. Like I, I love for crescendo to be something that the members look forward to doing, the competition we do in April, because for a lot of them, that's the only time they compete throughout the year. A lot of them don't sign up for the Open. They don't do competitions from the outside, but because they love to train and the gym's going to be closed three days, they might
Starting point is 00:09:19 as well sign up. So I find myself trying to help them prepare for it a little bit more than I probably should. And I'll go to program something and be like, you can't do that. That's the same competition stimulus. So that's the same combination that they're using in that workout. So, you know, they like to be surprised too. So if we're doing GHDs with wall ball every single week, then they're going to start nudging each other and being like, Hey, I bet there's a GHD wall ball workout for crescendo. I do not like to program benchmarks often. So that's, I think the key thing here. I definitely put benchmarks on Sentinel. We for sure do benchmarks at the gym at CrossFit Charlotte, but it's not this, Hey, I do this all the time. Once a week, we're going to have a benchmark that you test. No, I'm thinking like once every two months or once every month,
Starting point is 00:10:11 you have a benchmark with it where it's like, Hey, the emphasis of this is measuring against your previous self. Um, maybe we repeat more frequently than that, but it's not with the intent that, Hey, you should, the pressure's on to beat yourself. I don't need that pressure that frequently. And sometimes it just, it might not necessarily correlate. I might be having an off day. You know what I mean? So I don't, I think it's a balance. Yeah. I know we need to get into training partners, but one last thought hearing you say that, uh, let's take your perennial semifinalists that you coach. Will you have them revisit last year's quarterfinal workouts so that you can see where they're at or so that you can show them, Hey, this is a way to
Starting point is 00:10:51 instill confidence. Like, look how much fitter you are at this movement. Even if it's a skill limiting thing, like, uh, the crossover signal unders, let's just say one of your athletes is really, really good. Didn't have that skill and kind of got caught with their pants down. Would you have them redo that workout just to show them, look, like you're ready, like you're going to do well this year? I let them tell me if they want to repeat. I do not like to dictate repeats with that kind of pressure because what if it goes wrong on a day and they didn't ask for it and i program it on a random day on a wednesday and they're fucking tired and beat up and it goes worse then i'm like you know then
Starting point is 00:11:29 their eyes get wide and they're like oh we're fucked so i don't like to force repeats in that regard like that specific or that recent from last year's quarterfinals i'll program old open workouts for sure um but for an example i had an athlete that asked for that wall facing handstand push-up quarterfinal workout to be repeated so i was like all right word gave it to him they fucking smashed it and i think in that scenario it's great because they want it they're fucking like i want to retest this i'm feeling it you know yeah cool yeah all right so what else okay um this week training partners next week we're going to be reviewing open workouts uh from years past um oh mason did it i put uh the other week you did this recently didn't you 18 one or do you do intervals of it just intervals yeah i did a few weeks ago several
Starting point is 00:12:27 weeks ago so sentinel compete got it this past week maybe 62 camera um but a few weeks ago i did 19.3 rest two minutes and then 18.1 it was fucking so dumb so i gave it to compete that was just not not a mandatory rest between it was just two separate evolutions in that day which i thought was complimentary because one is so muscular fatigue limiting and the other is so just completely engine capacity based so it's two kind of um and i know you can just recall those but a lot of people listening may not be able to which are those two workouts workouts? Okay, so 19-3, the muscular fatigue or muscle stamina limiting workout is the four time with the 10 minute cap, 200 foot single arm dumbbell overhead lunge,
Starting point is 00:13:11 50 box step ups with that single dumbbell, 50 strict handstand pushups, 200 foot handstand walk. Then 18.1 is the 20 minute AMRAP of eight toes to bar 10 single arm, hang clean and jerks five each side. I thought I, I did it alternating when I repeated it and I,
Starting point is 00:13:35 I beat my old time by a bit. That's interesting. It's, it's slower for sure to alternate, but for sure back then it wasn't mandated. It was, it was five and five. I'm pretty sure.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Maybe, maybe not. It's some places it's written five and five. I've seen, um, I don't know what was mandated or if it was mandated, but I'm pretty sure I didn't alternate back then. And then 14 and 12 Calgary. Yeah. 14 cows for guys, 12 for ladies. Um, but what's interesting about that workout is the one you're describing is it is a lot of shoulder tricep stamina and then grip stamina.
Starting point is 00:14:15 So, I mean, it's cool that they're not super redundant. Like they're both very demanding muscularly but different muscle groups, which is cool. I finished that shit, bro that bro are you talking about i didn't in 2019 in 2019 i ate dick i'm pretty sure i like gave myself a hernia in my neck because i kicked up for the first handstand walk and just fell uh that was funny anyways uh that was we were talking workouts. Um, so we're going to be covering them basically saying, does it still hold up? Does it not? We're going to move pretty quick from like 2011 to 2020. Did we, did I say or whatever? Um, so we're going to move quick. And then if it does hold up, we'll be like, Hey, this is why sick workout. Um,
Starting point is 00:15:00 yeah, my holdup, basically we're saying that, and some of them already have been repeated, but we're just going to assume that they came up in 2024. We'll just go through and say, hey, does this workout still hold up with the community, with the elite level, all that? And if it holds up, we'll kind of just put it to the side. We'll say why. week, we'll start to preview Taylor versus the world, and we'll go through some of these workouts that we say, like for a lot of people, 16-2, 19-2 is going to hold up as a great workout, regardless of if it's 2016 or 2036. So we'll go through and say, hey, Taylor, if you're doing this workout against Colton, do you stand a chance? The answer would be no, not in that workout. Which workout?
Starting point is 00:15:48 Squat clean, Toast Bar Double Under. the answer would be no not in that workout but workout squat clean toast bar double under oh at power clean though i'm clapping those booty but it has to be squat clean in that work i'm just saying yes that's a great workout it's already been repeated twice though but that's an example that's an example yeah likewise um if we said 12 4 or or 13-3, which is the 150-90 double under 30 muscle-up came up, I would say, hey, Taylor's got an advantage against pretty much everybody in that workout because it ends with a set of 30-ring muscle-ups. So that's kind of a preview of what we're looking at for the next couple weeks. So it should be fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:20 And then this is the other thing. In 2019, that workout, that workout that handstand trick hand to 50 strict i believe it was like a 36 by 40 inch box super easy standard i did it to your whole inside right i did it this time i did it to the 10 by 30 inch and still destroyed my 2019 score so i was pretty happy with that if it was the if it was that box i think that's way easier than the 10 by 30 inch you just put yourself at an angle and fucking bang it out. Okay, cool. Training partners.
Starting point is 00:16:53 At some point over the next few days, Jason, oh, Jason Hopper is about to drop his next YouTube video. We might be making another one this weekend. And if we do, we'll drop this most recent one from this weekend if we make it, and then he'll drop the next one. If not, he's going to drop this next one. And you guys are going to have a perfect example of why training partners can not be so great for each other sometimes. I'm going to start with the bad, and then let's say we'll cover the good. I'll start with the bad from personal experience. Um, bad is maybe bad is not the right word. We'll start with why detrimental. Yeah, whatever. It's maybe just in small doses. It's like a fucking hit a meth. No, not that. Just kidding. It's quite different. Um, last weekend I was a crash for the 65 roses,
Starting point is 00:17:44 cystic fibrosis fundraiser workout teams of three. And I was at Crash for the 65 Roses Cystic Fibrosis Fundraiser Workout, teams of three. And I was on a team with Bryson and one of my other athletes. And Jason was on a team with Lindsey Lane and Reagan Hook. And they finished one of these parts of the workouts before our team. And we had 15 burpee box jump overs left. And I was doing the last 15, sprinting my heart out. And Jason is standing over top of me laughing like, you suck, bro. We're already done. And meanwhile, I'm in the middle of the last 15
Starting point is 00:18:14 burpee box jump overs dying into my mind. I'm like, you motherfucker, if you don't shut the fuck up. Um, and then we do another workout and I beat him or he's beating me. And then I pass him in the workout and I jog past it, but I go, see ya. And then, uh, do we just continue to talk? And then, and then, and then you, and then you asked me after, did you go over the line? Did I go over the line? No. Cause I didn't just stop there. Was I too mean is what you said.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Was I too mean? Cause I didn't stop there. I was like, see ya. And I passed him in the workout and then I finished and I start putting my stuff away and I mocked him and I was like, let's go Jason. And I did that. And I was like, Oh, did I go too far? Probably. Um, me and Jason are unique in the sense that both of us are so aggressive and so forward and direct that we know that we can only take each other in like, uh, the minimum effective dose, so to speak once a week would be great.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Um, because that kind of, that's where the conversation probably needs to start. What do we mean by a training partner? Do we mean a daily, like day in, day out training partner, or do we need someone who, Hey, they're my training partner when I'm trying to get ready for something or when I feel like, hey, I'm not getting the push that I need with the people I train with every day because even if they scale loads or they scale reps to try to get the desired stimulus to push me, I don't see them as an equal. I don't see them as a direct competitor.
Starting point is 00:19:41 And every now and then I just need to race and i need to yeah i need to practice the skill of competing and get someone who's as good or better than i am i i right i think in this scenario me versus jason um me saying we are equals would be a stretch he's made the games three times i haven't um but there are a lot of things I could beat him on. And inversely, there are a shit ton of things that he can beat me on. So it's like any given workout, we're battling it out and we both like to hurt a lot. So that's, you know, another plus. Um, and we are both insanely competitive. So it's like, if I get beat by him, my feelings are getting hurt a little bit and vice versa. If I beat him, he's going to be pissed about it.
Starting point is 00:20:27 And if that's our training environment every day, it's not going to be sustainable. Like there's going to be an eruption. We're going to get fucking heated at each other. We're going to blow up at each other, which has happened in the past. Um, so in small doses, like once a week or once every two weeks, it's great. Like, I love it. I, I think that me being beaten by him, it's like nothing better for me. Um, it just, it helps me a ton.
Starting point is 00:20:53 And also when he gets on me and starts shit talking, when he's beating me, like maybe for some people that would be detrimental. But for me, it's like, it makes me so angry and I just want to go harder. Or when he talks shit, like, so like, sometimes we'll talk shit before workouts. And it goes both ways. Like, sometimes I'll just say too much, and it'll piss him off. And I'll clap the fuck out of me, or it'll be vice versa. Like he'll say too much. And it doesn't matter what the workout is, it could be his wheelhouse, and I'll destroy him because he fucking turned me on or whatever. And in that regard, it's super positive.
Starting point is 00:21:25 But in the sense where like we would be at each other's throats all the time, not sustainable. What I think would be sustainable is say you are at a particular level. Oh, let's put like Jason, you know, let's say Jason and like, I don't know. He doesn't have any other male athletes that train with him a lot there. I would think if you're same sex and you're kind of in the same field of competing against one another, but one of you is really fucking good. And the other is like, just not there yet. I think that can also be a super powerful, uh, dynamic because you have somebody who can mentor someone who can learn a lot. And as long as that
Starting point is 00:22:06 person is hungry to like chase, it doesn't matter if they modify from time to time, it can be a pretty sustainable training relationship where you're trying to help that person get better. And you're not really threatened by them. They're trying to chase you and trying to push you. That can be sustainable. And of course I think male, female is sustainable, but I don't think if it's like me versus Jason every day. Nah, I'm good. Yeah. So I think the question you have to ask yourself, like if you're someone that trains alone, historical, let's just take someone at the highest level, someone like Pat, right? He trains alone every day, every once in a while,
Starting point is 00:22:41 maybe he trains with somebody, but I, but day in and day out, he trains alone. He knows that works for him. You know, Brent's another one. They know that works for them. They can still get the maximum output. They can still reach their maximum potential, all that stuff. It's great. There are some people that just don't like that daily grind of being in the gym all alone. They want to be around people. They want to be able to cut up a little bit. They want to keep the mood light. They don't want to take it too seriously. So what do you want out of a training partner? Do you just want a warm body in the gym? If that's the case, you can grab anybody, just someone that will do a workout with you because it helps you to suffer and grind looking over and seeing someone else suffer. That's great. There are
Starting point is 00:23:22 types of training partners though, right? Like you could just say pluses, minuses and equals, right? So a minus is someone that you were describing earlier. They will not beat you. It may be one out of a hundred workouts. That's like the most wheelhouse thing that you could program for them. That's your biggest weakness. You're going to lose to them. That's a true- Try some PB in a workout Monday and I still have rhabdo from it. I was going to say, so there are those training partners that they're just minuses. They're not on your level, but like you're saying, you can coach them a little bit. You can help them out.
Starting point is 00:23:57 They'll give you that gratification of watching someone else progress along with you. And it's almost like a payback type thing, right? Like, Hey, I appreciate you training with me every day and burying yourself and getting buried by me. So because of that, I'm going to help you out and I'm going to teach you how to clean up your muscle ups or your handstand pushups or whatever. So a plus would be the opposite scenario. You're the person getting buried every day and you're wanting to get so good that you want to train with someone who's just going to drill you. Taylor Wade was that for me for, since I started doing CrossFit, I, I cannot tell you how much better I got just because I was so angry of how bad I used to get beat by him every single day. And then you have an equal. And what people think is an equal is not that it's 50-50.
Starting point is 00:24:49 It's just that like, hey, they're really, really fit. I'm really, really fit. I would look at someone who Jason has a relationship, like a Dallin, right? If they train together at Crash or they train together in Jacksonville, whatever, it's probably gonna be close to a 50-50 split. It might be 55-45.
Starting point is 00:25:06 It might be one of them wins five in a row, and then the other one loses eight in a row or whatever. But in general, it's going to be a wash. They can push each other. When they lose, they're not going to lose by a large margin, all that kind of stuff. And I think an equal is what you don't want to train with a lot. Because usually an equal is someone you have to beat when it really matters. Yeah. Someone you have to beat when it really matters. And it's just you. Like, it doesn't matter if I'm at a semifinal or in your fucking gym against Jason.
Starting point is 00:25:38 I want to win just as badly. It's not about me going to go and compete. It's not about like, Ooh, uh, this is a stretch. It's, it's honestly less about making the games and more about, I don't want to fucking lose to anyone in anything ever. And I, I know people that are like that and going against them in things every day is exhausting. Do you think there's a point that you reach as an athlete? Like say for Jason, are there people that he could train with that is enough of a plus that it would be good for him?
Starting point is 00:26:15 Or is he past that point in his career? No, no, I think someone like, I think what Jason does and where he's gotten a lot more intelligent from a training aspect is he will use the people at his disposal. And I don't mean that in a bad way. It's right. I know what you mean. He will, he will grab someone that's a random gym goer. That's just the fastest handstand Walker that he's ever seen in a workout that's predicated on how fast you can do the handstand walk. And he'll try to get them to do the workout or he'll grab the best puller in the gym, or he'll get the person who's the best on the machines, or he'll grab someone who's
Starting point is 00:26:57 anthropometrically going to be able to beat him on burpees or handstand pushups, like a Zach Strill. He'll get Zach and be like, do this strict handstand pushup workout with me, knowing he probably can't beat him, but that is going to maximize his time on that workout. So I think that's really, really important. But knowing Jason, like all the guys he follows on Instagram who are his direct competitors, he mutes because he doesn't want to see what they're doing. He doesn't want that kind of stuff to get in his head. I think the answer to your question is no. I don't think at this point, if anyone said, hey, you want to start training together every day? I don't think it would be positive for him.
Starting point is 00:27:38 I think over time, it would just start to get in his head. Right. So what you're saying is there's probably no one in the world that's good enough to be enough of a plus for him where it's healthy. Yeah. Because at that point, I think those people that he may view in his mind as pluses should, that would just give him more doubt that he can't beat them. Right. If he,
Starting point is 00:28:00 if he was losing to them more than once or twice a year at a semi. Exactly. So I example, when I first started to be trying to be competitive, I trained with Nathan Bramblitt, who was a 2015 games athlete at CrossFit Reston. And he was such a plus. And I remember this lesson that I learned on a power clean ring dip workout.
Starting point is 00:28:21 It was a variation of Elizabeth. And from the start, he, it was like power cleans, front squats, ring dips. Don't remember the workout specifically, but he, I was like, all right, I'm about to pace this a little bit, you know, three, two, one go. And he fucking floored it. And I just never seen someone attack a workout from the start like that. But I learned a lot training with him and it made me so much better so fast because I learned what it meant to like, try to beat someone in a workout rather than just get a
Starting point is 00:28:50 good workout. Um, and that plus relationship is massive. I do think you reach a point as a, as a high level competitor where the plus is like, it's still not like we just said in Jason's case, there is not someone in the world who is so good, um, that it would be beneficial for him to train with them a hundred percent of the time. Um, to answer this question, I want to answer it first. And then I want to see if you think my self-assessment is accurate. I think that I am very balanced, meaning I have really great training days. And then I also have really bad training days, which I think most people have. I have hard days. I think in competition, I've shown that if I know I'm going to do well, if I, if I can do well in an event, I can maximize that. But I also
Starting point is 00:29:37 have instances where I've shown that I can make mistakes. Um, for example, granite games i had some i had a big mistake on the first workout i like i blew my load as like a you know a rookie athlete like learning um how to fucking run my own race rather than being a retard and then i had events the rest of the weekend where i was like top five which i could have done better but i just was kind of walking through top fives and then you go to wadapalooza and i win an event, take a second in an event. I know that I can do well in those. I would just say I'm pretty – I don't know. I mean, what do you think?
Starting point is 00:30:13 I would say I'm just pretty balanced. I wouldn't say I'm either a training day or a competition day athlete. I just – I would say that you're generally as good at both. And what I mean by that is, I think it really stems from this. Do you like to train? You love to train. You love to bury yourself. You love to hurt. Usually people either are like that and they're not as great on game day or when it really matters is when they go to that gear that they really can't get themselves to do in training because it's just training it's just practice
Starting point is 00:30:50 um they they want to feel the adrenaline of the race they want to feel the adrenaline of the crowd they're you know they're they're performers and then there are people that really just love to do what they do and i would put you in the boat of people that more just love to do what they do. And I would put you in the boat of people that more just love to do what they do. But usually the thought of losing to someone gives you a little bit more intrinsic motivation. Yeah, for sure. Um, Mason sent me a workout and I totally forgot to do it. I did our class today, which I'll talk about briefly. It was a 15. I need to do this workout. Can you, uh, can you send it to me or put it in the comments and i'll bring it up and so i can screenshot it again i just for it was a nasty it was uh
Starting point is 00:31:31 fucking like uh you asked me if i could go sub 32 on it that's what i remember it was like something with a rest and then repeat run ski bike nasty workout anyways workout i did today was class i saw it last night and I woke up and I was like, man, today's my rest day, but I really want to hit this workout. It was a 15 minute AMRAP of burpees at the zero one toe to bar at the one minute mark, two toes to bar at the two minute mark, three toes to bar, et cetera, until you finish the 15 minutes and your score is your burpees or you get capped by toes to bar within a given minute. Um, and those were the hardest toes to bar in my life. The last set of 15 was like the hardest I can hold 15 on bro. Like
Starting point is 00:32:16 I could probably do over 70 unbroken toes to bar. And that set of 15 was brutal. 15 was brutal. Yeah. You know, if you, when you think back to all the different combinations at, especially for the open, there has never been burpees after toast a bar and toast or, or toast a bar after burpee ever.
Starting point is 00:32:41 And that, that movement combination is one of the most brutal, one of the most redundant, one that a lot of people don't think about how it's going to catch them by surprise. Main site posted a workout recently that Andrew did and posted, um, where it was that combination. I think it was 12 burpees on the minute until you hit 60 toes to bar. Yeah. And I mean, that's a beautiful combination. So I mean, I like that workout. The only thing I don't like about it is why make people think at all
Starting point is 00:33:12 starting with the zero with the one? Why not just let them do the same number of toes to bar as the minute that it is? One, two, three, four. Yeah, I don't know if I, maybe I read it wrong and started day. I taught the 530 and the seven and just started them off on the
Starting point is 00:33:25 wrong foot, but that's how I did it. I know it was, and it was hard. Um, what was your score? 163 burpees. Um,
Starting point is 00:33:34 this isn't true. I cut John Young's head off and pissed down his neck in that workout at the games. We did a hundred cleaning jerks for time, increasing weights, 25 at 95, 25 at one 35, 25 at one 85,
Starting point is 00:33:44 25 to 25. And I blasted him. Um, Oh, here we go. The Mason. So 163 burpees. And I had, I, what I was doing is I like, I wasn't resting before a toaster bar until minute 12 and 13. I like stopped at the 49 or 52nd mark to catch my breath because doing 13 and 14 unbroken, like the set of 12 unbroken was super hard. And I was like, oh shit, if I don't get like 10 seconds to catch my breath, I might not be able to do these unbroken. So, or at least get the lactic acid out of my fucking arms. fucking arms um so i rested there and then after the set of 15 at the 14 minute mark i finished all the way through but i got was getting like nine burpees on those two minutes and then i got 13 on my last minute um here's the mason mitchell workout 70 calorie ski one mile run 70 calorie biker rest five minutes 70 calorie bike one mile run 70 calorie
Starting point is 00:34:45 ski okay let me take a picture of that i gotta do that it looks like a savage workout he asked me if i could go sub 32 and i was thinking yes but maybe i'm delusional ah beautiful he's right john young if you're listening you don't do crossfit you do zone two with some other bullshit if you want some real shit hit me up bro I got you oh here we go what do you got bro James Townsend a workout that only one
Starting point is 00:35:15 athlete completed that makes me not want to do it not lying I'm at a point in my career where James if he tries it you have to at least tell us who the athlete is. You cut out. Uh-oh. If you try it... Taylor?
Starting point is 00:35:38 Yep. Am I still there? No? You're there now. If you try the workout, James has to tell us who the athlete who the athlete was that finished it should i tap this is a workout uh yeah so i think long story short training partners can be beneficial but it depends on who they are and who you are i think more than anything like friendships matter i think why me and Jason works so well, even though we are at each other's throats so much is because we are really like, I care more about him than I care
Starting point is 00:36:10 about my success as an athlete in CrossFit. And he has said that to me, it's hard to get close to semifinals and know that he's taking a spot and I want to take a spot and like truly believe that, but that just comes down to insecurity as a person. Like, I think he wouldn't say that to me if it weren't true. And that means a lot. And that's the type of person that he is. Um, and we're really close. So I think that's why me and him work well together, even when we're at each other's throats, like we can pound each other into the dirt, but be good for each other. That's not good for a lot of people. I think so, dude, what scares me more than anything would be like cat fighting, like women in training camps, like the passive aggressive type of shit fuck that there's no passive
Starting point is 00:36:48 aggression across with charlotte so don't come up in here with that um 10 minute imam 10 thrusters 5 bar facing burpees at 95. Easy. Five minute EMOM. Rest five minutes. Another 10 minute EMOM. Five thrusters at 135. Ooh. Ooh. All right. I'll try that next week.
Starting point is 00:37:13 I'm on my thruster training game. The workout I did this week that dicked me down was five sets. Rest a minute between each. 12, 9, 6 thrusters at 95 pounds and chest to bar pull-ups 135 135 just clap to me um this is 150 so that's a good dose of volume we'll see if i'm ready for that um cool bro these days people are so good at hanging gymnastics that these days when you see a workout, like what you just described, it is the only thing that matters is thrusters. Like a one, putting, putting the same rep count on a 135, 95 thruster and one chest to bar is crazy. Like,
Starting point is 00:38:01 it's not, it's at least two to one. Yeah. But that 12, nine, six workout was at 95, not one 35. Okay. That's yeah. That's, that's, I didn't do 135 thrusters at one 35, bro. I thought you said one 35, no 95 and 95 and it's still collapsed me. And not because I'm, ah, I'm getting into like Fran shape. Like that's just a very unique stimulus. I think if you are nervous at all about a thruster or a movement that you have to sprint typically, you're not going to be good at it. And like front squatting, squat cleaning or thrustering is the one thing that's been slowest to come along for my knee. So me being like having the balls to just fucking bounce out of the bottom.
Starting point is 00:38:45 So that was a really good workout because 95 has been feeling great but it was at a speed and an intensity that just like fucking sprayed me with life source and i was just obliterated afterward on the ground um messed up after the fifth set which was great and extremely sore afterward extremely sore um are you guys thinking about coming here this weekend, or is he thinking about going there? We're going through – I think we're going to try to come through – because we're going to Georgia to pick some of his stuff up.
Starting point is 00:39:18 So I think we're trying to come through Saturday on the way back. I'm going to talk to him about it. Jason really wants to, so we'll try to do that. Probably like Saturday afternoon at some time. Okay, good. So I probably won't be there. Why is that good? No, you guys are, it's difficult to, you say how you work so well together. And all I'm thinking is how much of a headache it is when I'm around you both together. No, it's not. You laugh and you have fun fun you have fun watching us bicker dude don't even try to ask you don't but you both try to get me to just agree with whatever your arguments are
Starting point is 00:39:50 like coming up with workouts how it's too favorite it's it's too skewed toward your side or toward his side and it's just like dude i'm around my two kids every day i don't need to be around two more me me and jason we're about to start this workout last weekend and he was like standing at the front and I'm on the turf, which is like probably 75 feet away. And I was like, all right, 10 seconds. And, and I didn't start the clock, but I just yelled that. And Jason's like, what? And, uh, it made JR laugh and that made me really happy. So with that, anything else? No, I think that's it.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Yeah, thumbnails already made, I think. So next week, Sussin' or Bussin', open year division version. Then Taylor versus the world preview. Oh, he said Mal was the only athlete to complete it three years ago. Last thing, Jay, you have – I have to pee so badly, so you can answer this quickly. Who is the fittest athlete besides her to attempt it? I'm going to pee so bad.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Because if it was Phillip or Tudor, I feel kind of confident. Even though Tudor is super strong, my engine is really good. So, I mean, 14.5 and 16.5, though, usually the best in the sport. It's not fast enough to be aerobic, and it just ends up being a tricep workout. It's just like my pressing is gone on the burpees and thruster so i wonder if like people can't finish it because of their base or people couldn't finish it because it just got to the point where the thrusters just got hard i would think it's still just being able to dig on the burpee because it's a five minute rest kwan, Phil, Tudor, Dix.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Oh, cool. I'll try it. We'll see. All right. Oh, I got to pee super bad. So I got to go. I got to go. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:55 All right. See you, dad.

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