The Sevan Podcast - SHUT UP & SCRIBBLE w/ Angelo DiCicco

Episode Date: December 22, 2024

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It's the one with all the double unders and then a movement after each round of double unders, some of which are meaningful and some of which are not meaningful at all I don't know that any of them were meaningful what's meaningful in it none of it was meaningful to me I'm serious you think it's just double unders it's just double unders like it was just it was basically do the movement on broken, whatever, make the movement, whatever you want it to be. Go back to the double unders, be a little tired and try to go on broken.

Which I didn't, I broke, I didn't break. I only actually broke on purpose one time. I tripped enough to get myself enough break. The one, the movement I was referring to is a dumbbell snatch. It's in there and I have no idea why. Probably just because they hadn't done something like that. The overhead squat was pretty useless. It would maybe be... But it's... Go ahead, I'm sorry. I think overhead squats was probably the hardest out of anything. And it wasn't hard. But for the masses, because remember that was back when everyone was doing the open and I don't think there was a scaled yet, right? Was there a scaled that year? Yeah, I think so.

But a lot of people just are trying to do as many workouts prescribed as possible. So I think that the fact that the snatch is late doesn't really make sense to me. Like I would have put it early. Yeah. So that you could have done some double unders, done some snatches, like I think, yeah, like put the muscle ups at the end. Yeah. I just, but I just think that like they probably knew that a lot of people weren't going to do the second set of bar muscle ups. So they put the ring in there to be a barrier for the higher level athletes. Cause it was, cause it, cause if you were going to do good you were going to do muscle-ups twice. Yeah did you finish it? No dude Dom was all over thinking like everyone should be going he said yeah almost everyone in this room should finish it. I go Dom no one in his room was finishing that workout two specialists finished it back in the day. He goes, yeah, like 28 seconds.

Rich and Frazier were doing the open then. I go, and they're fitter than everybody in this gym right now. Maybe not literally right now, but like they, everyone's peak in our gym is not at those guys peak in 2018. And I promise you. Oh, it's crazy. I want someone I want like someone fit today like a semi-final. So like Josh and Dakota Rager are the only two that finished it? Yeah and Josh finished with one second to spare. Gotcha. I remember watching the video of Dakota Rager doing it and thinking it was it's still in my top 10 of most impressive things I've ever seen because he like gets done he goes over and gives the camera a thumbs up and he's like, it's still in my top 10 of most impressive things I've ever seen. Because he like gets done, he goes over and gives the camera a thumbs up and he's like, just, it's not, he doesn't look stressed at all.

It's not. It's so impressive. That's crazy. Larry the Shark, why ain't Angelo doing the 24 hour row? That's a great question. It's not that good of a question because it's so- His mentor is. My mentor. go to a question because it's his mentor is my mentor it's well it's the the

reason they're doing it is good I suppose maybe the underlying reason why they're doing it for charity is good and I don't know I mean like think of these people yeah some people do I don't I think it's good think let me think it as logically. I tried to explain, I had to explain this to everybody here. So I work at the fire station for 24 hours. And so out of any given 72 hour period, I'm there for a third of it. And then I'm going to dedicate 24 hours. Which 24 hours though, which ones should I dedicate? Should I dedicate the 24 hours when I come off? What if we have a structure fire all night? I don't sleep at all all night.

Then I show up and do the road with those guys and then I get yelled at because I'm not holding the pace right. Or I do it the 24 hours before I go to work and then I'm driving a 60,000 pound truck, you know, 80 miles an hour around, after I haven't slept and I worked out all night. Like neither seems smart.

So it's just not feasible for me right now. Would you get ridiculed and shamed for your output by your cohort if you attempted but you were just not holding the pace as you were supposed to? So their goal, I don't know if you care, their goal is to hold a 155 or faster the entire day, which is hard. Like I think, no, I, how are they switching? Do you know what they're doing? How are they switching? They're doing as far as I know, they were doing 10 minutes on 10 minutes off

with a partner. So there's four of them. You and a partner do four rounds of 10 on 10 off. And then you do, and then you take four rounds off. The other pair does that. So that that's their plan. You're rolling 40 minutes within the 80 minute window and then you're off for 80 minutes and they're holding. Jeez. So I can't do that. Like you can't hold a one 55 for a day.

I don't think it could have held their two minute pace for a day. So I did four sets of 20 calories the other day and my hip hurt so bad I had to stop. So I'm not gonna roll 10 minutes at a 155, there's no way. Any of them that didn't know, Angelo has the joints of a 67 year old. I'm wearing slippers right now because I can't walk around my house barefoot.

My foot hurts so bad. He's a big Maloxicam guy though. So as long as he's taking that, he's good. Taylor Self, the thumb, is working on his home right now. He's a new homeowner. So he's building fences and I don't know, doing a bunch of handy stuff around the house.

So he's out for a week. Angela is stepping in so graciously. We actually have some news today in the CrossFit space. Those of you that have not, go over to barbellspin.com. He's usually the fastest with news in the space. We got some semi-final event, semi-final competition locations, dates for all but one, and also spot allocations for the CrossFit Games.

So, if I knew how to run the backend at all, I would share a screen right now, but I don't. So, unless he wants to jump on here and do me a solid, we're just going to talk through those announcements and maybe pick Angelo's brain and see how much we can get him to divulge about the mayhem classic which is returning from a five-year hiatus as a Qualification competition to the CrossFit Games was pretty cool anything you want to say about that starting out like how long? Were you or rich and talks with Dave or whoever about doing it? Do you know a schedule anything you can tell us before your podcast comes out soon that has a lot of details? Well, Peter seems to think that two days ago that I knew about the Man Classic when I said

nothing on his podcast. I don't know what that's about. So I knew nothing on Wednesday I Don't know. I don't know what I like. There is there is some info on the podcast Maybe I'll let I'll just let Rich be the one to tell it so I won't steal his thunder because it comes out Monday like if Everyone who's curious can wait. It's not that big of a deal What can I share? What if I was home, Matt Souza, you're a good dude. Enjoy listening to me stumble through trying to lead this marching band to nowhere.

I don't know. I don't know what I can share. I don't know what I want to share in Steel Riches Thunder. He has a lot of, there is a lot of information in our podcast that comes out Monday. So maybe that is the information I'm gonna give, that there's a lot of information in our podcast and I'll let Rich, it's his deal, so I'll let him tell it.

But it's gonna be pretty cool. I mean, anyone, if you wanna go back and watch old classic workouts or what what we did with that, like we're going to try to make it a similar feel. And I think we're going to play around with some different ideas of how to approach like a weekend CrossFit competition. Maybe not totally. Thank you so much for all the sponsors.

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but purchase anything on Christmas day. Merry Christmas to everyone. Okay. Mayhem classic. we do know the date and it is the first in-person semifinal in the world to qualify for the CrossFit Games. It was pretty cool. So two spots, two males, two females. We know that it's at least, so a minimum of 30 spots at the CrossFit Games this year. We think that if they're gonna add up all the in-person semifinal spots, which adds up to 16, that that means there will be 14 that qualify from the in-affiliate semifinal, which is about a month out from the Mayhem Classic. So you've got Mayhem beginning of April, and then May 1st through the 4th,

I believe, is the in-affiliate semifinal online. So yeah, they're kind of spread out from April to June. And I don't want to ask you anything that's going to come out on Monday, but as far as the date goes, did you guys always want to be the first one? Was that like something that Rich wanted to do? Like, hey, I want to be the first one? Was that like something that Rich wanted to do? Like, hey, I want to be the first one on the schedule so I can have like, anyone who wants

to come can come or whatever? No, I just think it legitimately was, I think legitimately was like a what weekend work for everyone who's helping run it. Like I think they had a powwow and they all sat down there like they found weekends that work for everybody And then they came across this is the weekend that worked for the gym and for all the people involved So I don't think has anything to do with that actually gotcha Here's a question for you as a as a fitness coach as renowned fitness coach that you are if you are

If you're advising an athlete, here's two different ones, if you're advising an athlete who thinks they're going to go to the games or sorry is almost certain that they're going to go to the games, what would you tell them to do and what would you tell an athlete who is like a bubble athlete who has an outside chance of going to the games this year, when would you want them to compete and why and like what kind of plays into that? That's a good question. There aren't many people out there who fit the description of I've been doing CrossFit for like 10 plus years, I've barely missed out on the games x number of times and I know how to compete right, I'm good at the skill of competing, I've barely missed out on the games X number of times.

And I know how to compete, right? I'm good at the skill of competing. I'm just haven't been fit enough or something crazy has happened. That's always kept me out of the games. That being said, the athletes that know they're going to qualify, I wouldn't push them to compete before the online semifinals unless they are like really, really, really, really anthropometrically at a disadvantage competing online or they're toward the very end of their career and the amount of times they step on the floor are very numbered. Otherwise, I would just be like-

Can we get a definition of that word you just used? Sure. It just means like your body type, one length. Are you drinking a full? Are you is that a real coke? Can you show that to the screen or is that a coke zero? Go zero? Buddy I do know you like to dabble. He's a big he's a he's a big dr. Pepper guy full strength dr. Pepper not not Well, it's a zero. I just need some, I need a fake of energy drink this evening. I didn't want, I didn't want like real energy drink. I just need a little caffeine. So yeah, I would, I would recommend like most people, if you have this many opportunities

to compete, as long as the competitions don't have strict like, Hey, you got to pick one semi-final, we're not going to just let you make a tour of North America and compete at all three. I think what a lot of competitions will probably do, and I'm curious what your thoughts are on this is they will say, you can compete regionally as much as you want. But once you qualify, you're not you can't take a spot away from someone who has not qualified yet.

So like if someone goes to Mayhem, if someone, let's just say, let's say Roman goes to Mayhem and he qualifies for the games, then I could see the other two North American semifinals saying, hey, Roman, sorry, I know you might want to come and compete and have a good, have some fun, but we're only going to let the people come that haven't yet punched their tickets to the games. I don't think anyone would do that. I don't think anyone would even try. Why would you because then you're missing out because like if you're the last week, if you're the last week, then you're missing out on like you could be missing out on like most of the high level games athletes and not that that matters.

I mean, you're not, it doesn't matter, but you, but publicity wise, like you're missing out on your, your biggest, I mean, I understand it's not necessarily just all, I mean, it mostly is all about money. It is pretty much all about money. So why would you not want, I mean, right. Why would you want the big names are going to get, are going to get people there to watch but Cross that hopefully they don't do the back full sixth place person that actually and

Actually made it. That's yeah, this is this is this is what I think it will prevent if they if they tell people Hey, once you qualify you're done Then they don't have to worry about people showing up to the competition that I have already qualified in other ways Yeah, it was really confusing in 2019 or 2020 whenever they're doing that. It for sure is confusing. So for most people I'm going to, I would tell them compete as much as you can. Like, let's, let's assume that all of the semi-finals before the online and affiliate semi are going to use the open as their leaderboard. We already know Torian's going to use the open plus a workout they're going to write.

So basically like a fourth week of the open. And that's cool that they're doing something a little bit different. But I think most people are going to use the open if they're going to be before an affiliate semis. If they go after an affiliate semis, I could see some people using the semifinals online qualifier, like using the an affiliate leaderboard to fill those spots. Let's just assume they use the open for that. If you finish high enough to where you can go to multiple semifinals and you're like you're saying a bubble athlete Unless it's a financial thing. I would tell them to compete as much as they can I

Think tfx is only two weeks away from syndicate So that might be a little bit close but like if you could go to mayhem and compete and go to either tfx or Syndicate crown and compete I would absolutely recommend that to a younger, less seasoned athlete that hasn't qualified before. Because the cool thing about this year is it's not uniform programming, and you never know if you have something

that you have a few skills that you're really, really good at that could show up at a competition and could be what you need to kind of like push you over the threshold to make it. Yeah. competition and could be what you need to kind of like push you over the over the threshold to make it. Yeah Yeah, I mean Yeah, I mean I love Camera go off every time I start talking. I

Yeah, I I don't know I'm still pondering on whether I like Not letting athletes come back into the competition after they've qualified. I don't know what I think about that. It makes it easier to watch and understand and digest because you're like, oh, the top two people are going. But it also could make the events later in the year less exciting to watch because you're watching, you're not watching as many high-level athletes. I don't know, I mean... So there's two ways of looking at it. This is the way I look at it. If you're Syndicate Crown and you're the last weekend along with Africa semifinal, Asia semifinal, and Torian. But let's just assume that most of these competitions

are gonna make you compete regionally. So like the North American semifinals are only gonna take athletes that are North American. They're not just gonna- Is that a fact right now? Is that a fact? No, I'm saying let's just assume that. Okay.

So you have the 14 spots for online-ish, and then you have the two spots for mayhem the two spots for tfx Yeah, so that's 18 spots out of 30 Right. Yes a lot of the best athletes in the world are already gonna have qualified at that point Most of them probably have already qualified. They've qualified in like before that last week. So the downside of going at the end is you may not have some of the biggest names. But the upside of it is it's basically a last chance qualifier, which I think is cool for a storytelling standpoint. Yes. I want to look at, I don't know if you've done this. I'm looking at last

year's quarterfinals and to see if that would have been a good, oh my gosh, it's not even on the games website. I don't know how to get out to some other, I'll do some other backdoor research. Um, but to see if those top 10 athletes, is it 10 or 15 or 20? What's the deal with the with the with this online semifinals? Top 1% from the open. I know that who goes the game. What are you asking? I? Just said yeah 6 if 16 or in person if they take a minimum of 30, it's 14 spots were online I'm gonna assume 15 or 20 of them. I was going to say they didn't they.

I don't know, they they use that terminology, I think, so that they can adjust it if they feel like they need to. But yeah, initially, with the announcements a few weeks ago, they said. Minimum of 30. Yeah, yeah, I know. I think they said minimum and at least so I mean it could be up to 44, but this is the way this is the way I look at it. We're still sending about half of the games field from an online competition. I thought it would be the other way around. I thought I thought it would be like, and this just may be based on the amount of interest from the competitions, but I thought it would be like, and this just may be based on the amount of interest from

the competitions, but I thought it would be like 2010. 10 from online, 20 from in person. So why not just take the whole podium? Why not take the whole podium in North America, the whole podium in Europe, the whole podium in Australia? That's really interesting to me. I agree with you I mean, I think I will shatter from the rooftops over and over again that Competing in person is a much better test to show who will do good at the games

Than an online competition. That's kind of why I wanted to see That's kind of what I wanted to see who would have done good in quarterfinal quarterfinals I get that most likely the fittest athletes are going to move on. That's fine with me, but I do think that there is something to be said about being a game time athlete when you're on someone else's schedule, when the workouts are totally, you know, they're on a floor, you have to move distance in between them. Like there is a lot to be said about going to a competition then doing it in your gym.

That is a skill on its own. And the people who do good there usually do good at the games, to me. Sure. And if you think about what's probably gonna happen online for the in affiliate semifinal, unless they do it like they did stage one of the games, which is possible.

I don't put anything past them from a programming standpoint where they say, hey, we want you to go mark out a 200 meter out and you're going to do 200 meter out, 200 meter back, or 300 meter out, 300 meter back or whatever. Look at the programming for the in-person semifinals last year. That event one would be impossible online. And we've talked about this before, starting it out with a long workout

that has a lot of running before the games is very uncommon. And we both agree that it's very important that people do that before they get to the games. So if you look at it from a programming standpoint, I mean, I competed in the Masters the year they did a mile of shuttle runs. They did 50 shuttle runs to start with the dumbbell with the barbell bench and rope climbing and 50 to end Unless they're gonna do something like that

How are they gonna test running which are is probably maybe not probably arguably? The most important thing to test or the most important thing tested at the games is running? Dom said a trigger for me today. He was talking about 18.3 and saying like, well yeah, like in the open they're probably gonna want to try to test running or online. They're gonna want to try to test running just like the conversation we're having right now because it's their only chance before they go to the games. And he said they could do a workout. He goes, the best thing besides running is do a high volume double runner workout. I go, Dom, it is not the same thing.

I go, Rich is probably one of the best runners I know. And he's just an above average runner. And I'd say this to his face. He's a good runner. He's a great double runner. They do not really correlate for him. My favorite part about true nutrition is the ability to customize my own supplement.

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Yeah, you were starting that when I lost connection for a second. Oh, okay. Yeah, that... Yes, yes. Maybe I did. Thank you, David. Yeah, it's not the same thing. I mean, I guess it's the closest thing you can do,

but it's not the same thing, in my opinion, at all. Sure. Yeah, I mean, we can talk about the semifinals programming all we want. To me, though, the open programming is gonna be not just as important as the semifinalsfinals programming and affiliate, but really, really important because a lot of these semi-finals are going to use it to go down the leaderboard

and invite people to semi-finals. So with a three-week open, if you look at the open from last year, which a lot of people would say the goal was a little bit different, the reason for the open was a little bit different, who it was for was a little bit different, the reason for the open was a little bit different, who it was for was a little bit different. I mean, Dave said he's going to make the open matter again. It definitely is going to matter now because a lot of these competitions are going to use it. It's really easy to just go to their leaderboard and start sending invites. From a programming standpoint, do you think we'll go back to the opens of 2018 and before, where like maybe the first week is kind of

everyone can play and then we're gonna start weeding people out that don't, haven't earned the right to be at a semi-final? I don't know. I mean, I feel like even, I'm thinking back to 23, even in 23, I think it was a little bit like that. I'm thinking of the the front squat gymnastic workout, like it leveled up as you went. And I mean, there are levels to it, obviously, like they do allow, I think they were allowing people to play more so in the beginning and then just like cut them out.

But I think that's kind of the theme of the open almost always, like make it hard at the end, except for that one ring muscle up workout they did where it started with three muscle ups. I mean, that's I think that's textbook CrossFit. Like I think they do that a lot. So I don't know that I pro they probably will do it, but I don't know that they ever stopped doing it. I guess is what I'm trying to say. Was uh, was there any talks in house when you guys knew you were going to host a semi final that you might not want to use the open and you might just want to come up with your own qualifier to get your people? I think we all hate online competition so much that no,

that I think it was just easier to use the Open Leaderboard and pick from it. It may be good, it may not be as good whatever but uh but it's just it just saves us the time and the hassle of trying to do that as well when we really just want to focus on the in-person stuff when the open is gonna be probably good enough I guess. Right. Let's switch gears a little bit and let's talk about the spot allocations because that's uh, it's it's a topic every year whether we're using strength of field or worldwide ranking or

Previous games performance over the years like I mean someone's always got opinions on this if we look down It's pretty simple Asia and Africa get one spot and then everyone else gets two. Yeah. Everyone else gets two, all the other competitions. Do you think they made a mistake there? Do you think we're going to miss out on like a lot of North Americans or Europeans getting in? Or do you think that those 14 to 15 spots online are going to take care of that problem? Because a lot of the people that qualify online are just gonna be the fittest and they're gonna be made up of a lot of people

from those regions. Yeah, I mean, obviously the North American, sorry, Europe are gonna probably run the town when it comes to the online, sorry, the in-affili the in affiliate semi final. Uh, I don't, I mean, I think it does take away from the North America. I think they need more spots. Uh, and that's my opinion.

I think North America needs another probably competition or all three. The podium goes like it ever all the North America competitions podium goes. Like it's easy to watch. It's easy to understand. And you can you can say hey I do think depth of field needs to play a factor it obviously does a little bit if it's all based on region like because there's there's three competitions in North America and they have two spots each so obviously more people go from North America if it's regionally,

which seems to, it seems to make sense, obviously, because of the way they allocate spots. It seems that that's probably the way they're going to go. Yeah, you're missing out on people. What do you think? My knee jerk reaction, this is at all like you Europe probably needs to have six The North American probably needs to have nine. So that's 15 right there and you just take some away from the online That's like my my knee-jerk reaction. I'm surprised that Australia has the same amount as copasaur which is also the same amount As Europe and North America Not if we had been said which is also the same amount as Europe and North America. Well, it's not though.

That being said, sure, that being said, there is something to say for this point of view. Like we know that Torian is going to let people come that aren't necessarily in the Oceania region, but that like Asia is is not gonna do that. They're gonna say, no, you gotta be, your flag's gotta be representative

in this region to compete. If you're that whole continent, you wanna see Choi competing, or you wanna see Kaya competing, and they're good. You want to have some representation at the games for someone that isn't just gonna come in bottom 10 so to their argument and to have someone to pull for I do understand but I am definitely on the side of

We need the highest level field possible at the games and if you go off of that I don't see how you can give some of I don't see how you can give guaranteed spots Of more than one to like, I mean, I would probably still have only given South America one. And I don't know how you feel about that. You may disagree. But I think that it would, for the level of competition playing field, it would be better to have more spots allocated to Europe, the North American, and Australia.

If it was up to me, this is here. Here's my hot take for you. If it was up to me, this is here. Here's my hot take for you. If it was up to me, if it was up to me, you'd get like, North America would get like, I don't know, 25 spots. And then each other continent or region, whatever you call it, would get one. One for Europe, one for Asia, one for Africa,

one for South America. And guess what? You probably have the fittest person there. Yeah. Yeah, I know Europe's a stretch. I know Europe's a stretch, but like, you could probably get like 22 or 23 and then give Europe three, one, one, one, one, cool. Probably gonna have the best athletes there. I don't really care at all about global representation. I think it's really stupid. I think it's just all be about how fit how how fit are you I? don't I

Don't know how I feel about like Tia is going to the games If I'm T, I'd much rather go to a competition and qualify, but I know I can qualify online, too So if she qualifies online, she's just being nice to someone in North America or being nice to someone in Australia and saying, Hey, you might get your first chance to go to the games this year. Let's just say she's, she's still in Australia and she's like, no, I'm good. I'll go to Toria and it's the, it's the last weekend. I can be at home longer, blah, blah, blah. I mean, if you're Maddie stirred, if you you're if you're Grace Walton, like you're sitting there and you're like, huh? Like one one of us isn't going now that is also assuming

that they wouldn't qualify online, which they probably all three of those actually probably could qualify online. It's very possible. So that'll that'll be interesting. Like, will we see just staying in Australia? would we see someone like, um, Van Zio, we see someone like Daisy McDonald go to the games because by the time Torian happens, a lot of the heavy hitters have already qualified. So, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. There's a chance. Yeah. Yeah. It adds some excitement. And like we said earlier with those competitions that are happening at the very end, like there's four in that last weekend. Um, I think if you have more drama, if you have more storylines, it's just as

compelling as if you have like the syndicate was last year where you, it's just a who's who, like you have Tia, you have Brooke, you have Haley, you have Alexis Raptors, you have Daniel Brand and it's just loaded, loaded. Like, I think it's more, I think it's just as cool if you know that like the final heat are all just scrapping for every point because none of them have qualified yet. And there's gonna be people that haven't qualified

in that last week that you're gonna be like, is this real? Is this person gonna miss out on the games? They finished top 10 last year. They finished top 15 in the last three years or whatever. I mean, they'll be storylines. I think it's very possible. I mean, the only, the first person that comes to my mind, who I don't think is

going to have a problem in person, but who just usually who, who doesn't do as great online and probably on purpose is just Madero's like, he just doesn't usually do that good online because I think he plans his his year Accordingly, so he peeks at the games so well that he's like, yeah, like I'm gonna go to semi-finals I'm gonna do fine and he usually does that's usually when I can tell you can just tell like his peak is starting then You're like, okay. Wow, he's getting really fit I guess on my finals because in quarterfinals you're like man, this guy's good You're like whatever this guy's good like you're like, whatever, this guy's good. Like you wouldn't say, man, that guy's won the game twice.

But it's, which it's almost, that's, I don't know if that's a timing thing, fitness timing thing, or if that's a, or if he's just like a lot of other athletes and me included where you're just not as good online, you need the pressure of the crowd, or you need the pressure of the competition, or you need the pressure of the competition, you need to feel the crowd, and that just brings people to life.

And maybe that is for him. And he could be one of those people who, maybe he just plans to go to Syndicate, and there's only two spots, what if the workouts don't line up? You never know, it is crazy. He's one of those people that comes to my mind that could be not

qualified by the last weekend. And still you'd be like, man, a couple of these workouts, maybe aren't good for him. And then you're like, wow, he's not going to go, but he may be extreme because I think he goes no matter what. But that's the person that comes to my mind. Yeah. There's a ton of ifs right now now because we don't know how many of the semifinals are

going to allow it to be a worldwide competition. Like if I had to guess, I would say most of them are not going to do that. They're going to say, hey, like the European regionals are going to be like you're going to see all Europeans here and that's who's going to compete. yeah that's who that's where we send in the games. If I had to guess that's what I would say. And if you look at it that way you're probably just going to see the same people who are like man they always struggle to get to the games but once they're there they're great. That's why I think from a programming standpoint, if you're someone who's not suited for online,

like you know that you're gonna crush online because there's not gonna be any meaningful running, because there's not gonna be, there might not be whatever, GHD sit-ups, they usually do rope climbs, like there's not gonna be any odd object work, like you struggle with odd object stuff. There's not gonna be high level handstand skills, whether that's like

parallel handstand push-ups, deficit, handstand walk obstacle, which you could see at some of the in-person semi-finals, you're saying, hey, like I need to be able to compete more than once to punch my ticket. Because if they make you sign up before the programming comes out, which I definitely think they all should, you're gonna see people that go to the Fittest Experience, and I think last year they had some skills type stuff. I think they had maxed out muscle ups.

I think they had maxed handstand hold or something. think they had a max like handstand hold or something. And you're gonna see people that get exposed by different programs. Yeah, yeah. Or Excel at it, I think. Or just totally Excel at it. When I'm in charge of CrossFit, there'll only be one WorldRide quarter final event

and it will be in Cookville. Grand question of the day, if they had traditional three point contest to test accuracy, what high level athlete wins that test? Give me how Gia was still competing. I would put all my money on her. She's not, I don't know any basketball players on my head. I mean, Bill, college basketball, Leahy, I don't know of any other players off the the In North America, we have three. And I know you guys, you're gonna list a lot of your stuff on Monday. So I'm curious what you guys say, or who could come?

Is it just gonna be North America East? Is it gonna be all of North America? Is it gonna be 30 spots, and we're gonna take 20 from the East and 10 from the West, whatever. But until we know that kind of thing, it's gonna be interesting, at least in North America,

how they're gonna, are they gonna let people pick? Are they gonna say, hey, congratulations, you finished in the top 100 in the Open in North America, please select one of these semi-finals, where it's like a rank them one to three, and we'll try to send you where you wanna go. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Well, that's how quarterfinals worked the last couple of years years was like a draft in 22 for in 22 It was literally one two, three four semi finals not quarter finals semi finals. Yeah. Yeah force Yeah, quarter fine from the quarter finals leaderboard Yeah, it was like one two, three four scatter five six seven eight scatter 19 11 12 scatter like that makes sense to me. I think that's the most fair. It's just literally like a draft. And 23 was a little bit more,

I think you had a little bit more buy-ins what you wanted to do, I think. Yeah, what's cool to me is, I mean, most of the athletes talk, a lot of the athletes are friends. A lot of them, I mean, I would for sure do it, is if it would say, Hey, are you gonna, are you gonna do online? You can try to qualify early. Oh, really, which one are you gonna go to? I think I'm gonna wait and go and try to do syndicate. I've got a wedding on the weekend of mayhem or whatever. There's, there are

gonna be people that probably try to pick and choose, or I think the more experienced athletes are going to hang back and let everyone get antsy and go to the earlier semifinals because they're like, what if what if online there's a bunch of this? There's a bunch of this. They're just going to get they're're going to say, Hey, if I don't make it online, the field that I'm going to have to beat at the end of all this is probably not going to be that high level. Yeah. And there is something to be said about how easy it is to make a training plan around CrossFit's online competition. You have so much data on what they think they can do, on what they will do. Like, you know that, you know that you're going to, if you're going to run, it's going to probably be shuttle runs and you're probably going to row. So you just do like

a 10 or 12 week rowing progression to make sure you're rowing peaks then. And maybe you do some workouts with shuttle runs. Like the, the, the pool of stuff you could do is so much smaller. And if you know, you're already a decent online athlete, that's probably the way you wanna go. Me personally, it doesn't matter how many rowing progressions I do, how many shoulder run workouts I do, I'm probably still gonna suck dick when it comes to an online semi-final.

So I'm gonna probably go in person if I'm talking for myself. Yeah. Renata's comment, we definitely should address this. Can athletes who don't do the open go to the summies and qualify? I don't know anything for sure. I think what I do think is that all the competitions have autonomy so they can all decide how they want to let people in because the CrossFit name is because the CrossFit name is on it. I would be shocked

is because the CrossFit name is on it, I would be shocked if they let anyone compete that did not sign up for the Open and finish at whatever level in the Open. That's probably like a CrossFit rule when they send a contract to the competitions that says hey, that's like a buy-in. They have to do the Open and then you do it every one. It would make sense. Michelle, do you see the athletes that have said they're out of the games affecting how the allocations end up? Will more Americans get places on the online qualifier? I don't think that the online qualifier is going to be distributed based on continents.

I think the online qualifier is just going to be the best in the world. Whoever finishes in the top 14 to 20 in the world are going to get those game spots. I don't think it's going to be, hey, there's going to be 15 and six of you are going to come from North America and six of you are going to come from Europe. And then two are going to come from Oceania and one is going to come from the rest of the world. I don't think they're going to do that. I think it's just going to be look at the leaderboard whoever the top 15 in the world are get invites Hey notably who is who are those athletes that are out, you know? I Think I want to say it's been posted that An interview tall did recently made it. He was not In the game season

but honestly I haven't heard of any any others that have flat-out came out and said I Will not get be competing and I'm gonna be doing World Fitness Project competitions or taking a year off or whatever so Michelle says em a tall I don't know of anyone else though. Oh Yeah, it's a little programming standpoint From programming standpoint to to your point about all the

data you have and all the movements that you can probably eliminate, you know, stuff like 100 pound dumbbell movements or axle ball movements or kettlebell movements. I mean, most people have kettlebells and we've seen them in like age group stuff, but it's not something that Dave and Boz typically program for the individuals. You also look at what's in the open, there's probably not going to be that much redundant carryover. Like if we did, let's say he did, um, 25.2 is 16.2, 19.2. So it's that clean ladder with toes to bar and double under.

You're probably not going to see a heavy clean in the online, in the in affiliate sem. It would make sense that most coaches are going to be thinking snatch, or they're going to be thinking heavy overhead squat, or they're going to be thinking heavy deadlift. Like it really does help from a movement selection. I mean, some of these sem-finals are gonna do some crazy stuff, I think. And I think they should, because if you're someone who just is gonna say, hey, I think the way that they test the athletes is not appropriate, and I think they need to be doing different things before you get to the games, then I mean, as far as I know, the oversight is probably gonna be minimum.

And I think you might see some funky stuff. And I think that's good. I think the level of adaptability is not very high until the games typically. So that's why I'm interested to see. I think a lot of it will be based on equipment sponsors though. Like how many competitions does Rogue assist with their equipment, how many competitions use local companies, all that kind of stuff. I mean, you look at the semi-finals programming last year,

it was all, I thought it was a really good spread of workouts, but it was very, very classic crossfit. of workouts, but it was very, very classic CrossFit. There was dumbbells, there were barbells, there was rig movements, there was a handstand walk, there was eco bike, there was row. That's it. There wasn't anything niche at all. No, I am tired of... I'm tired of... Let's see, hang on. Before I say this, let me think. Okay, there was no pegboard this year. But pegboard is like one of those movements that I don't understand why it only is at

the games. Or parallel handstand pushups. Those are the two that come to my mind when I think about why are those like... And I mean, I know, sorry, Atlas games did parallel hands and push-ups in? 21 or 2 21 22 22 I want to say it's I want to say I want to say too, but I don't want to like those are movements You just don't see at semi-finals and it's the same thing as the running like them doing hide the long distance running High volume running that I think both of those like those movements They don't need to be just tested at running, that I think both of the like those movements,

they don't need to be just tested at the games. And I think even better, I wish they could, I mean, I know this is a logistical nightmare, but it'd be great to test swimming. I know Cobra Sir's done it test swimming before the games, because it is that I mean, it's not that it's, it's not a huge part of the game. But I have, you know, I have my five non-negotiables, gymnastics, weightlifting, run, swim, bike. Like if you want to stay here, the fitness person on earth, those are five things But I have you know, I have my five non-negotiables gymnastics weightlifting run swim bike Like if you want to say you're the fittest person on earth Those are five things you need to be able to do to do in some capacity So like not ever test only testing it once a year and two years ago. We didn't test it

is just is not enough and Long or high-volume running whatever you want to call it mixed modal running too, like mixing it with stuff is important. And I know at the games it's important for sure. And why would you not want to test that before they get there? Make sure you're getting some of the best swim bike runners, lifters and gymnastic people there, not just the people who can do across the work outside of gym. Like that's not all it is.

If you had to guess an amount of money that Madison would be angry with you if you lost on if a semi-final program swimming, would you bet yes or no? What just one? No, no, no, I wouldn't bet it. No, not this year. This year. It's not sure I mean dude legends did it and I think that was awesome. They did they used to pull it was cool Yeah, they did eight minute

I do think I think a lot of I think a decent amount of the semi-finals or sanctions Whatever the hell they're called this year probably would be looking into it, maybe not this year, but the year after. Um, looking into see what kind of pools around them. Um, given the time of year to like, you know, especially we're in April, like it's kind of spotty, it wouldn't be a great time to be outside swimming. Um, so it'd be, I mean, I think it'd be great. I wish it would be great. I wish they would, I wish it would be great. I wish they would I wish they would do that

Yeah to your pegboard point like especially the the competitions that partner with rogue Yeah, they go on I'm I don't know this maybe they don't fit on the regionals rig on that three-tier rig that they always use Maybe but I think that is also the rig that they use at the games, like when they did the split-triplet. Like, I think it's the same rig. So to your point, yeah, I love pegboard as much as anyone else does. And this is the 10th year. It's been 10 years since it came out of the game.

And people would be really good at it. It looks cool to watch. I mean, I don't think that it's impossible unless Dave has said, hey, there's a few things that you cannot do. Yeah, that's possible. And that's one of them. And it might be.

Like, I mean, King for a day, I would try to get snails, right? Weren't the snails, weren't the snails used for the teams last year? Were they supposed to be or where there's, was there one in the back or did you guys use them? Come on. I didn't watch it. So that kind of thing I think would be awesome on a regionals floor. That'd be awesome. It would be.

It would be. Yeah. So you can use, is that kind of your question that you can use awesome on a regionals floor. That'd be awesome. It would be. It would be, yeah. So you can use, is that kind of your question that you can use on a rubber floor? The answer is yes. Yeah, gotcha. So yeah, what games are in Albany, New York? I don't know anything about that venue,

but I think someone did confirm that it was 2017 regional was hosted there. I remember being, you were talking about if they'd ever had a regional there before, but apparently they have. So that's where we know the games are going to be this year. What else? We're at 50 minutes. I don't know. I don't know what else. You're the show host. You sent me some questions that I should have been pondering and I didn't. You're lying. I did not send you any questions.

No way, you definitely sent me some talking points that we were going to talk about. Yeah, I didn't. Yeah you did, it's right here. Is that like a, is that a spizz, are you supposed to like, are you supposed to, is this supposed to be all like off the cuff, like just conversation, am I not supposed to say that we had talking points? Oh yeah, no I don't remember what I sent you. I'm not supposed to say that we had talking points. Oh Yeah, no, I don't remember what I sent you I think I asked you what you didn't want to talk about and that was it. No, no, no This is no no, this is stuff like these are like talking points that we should talk about I Think we hit the top points

All right. Let's let's go through the schedule right before we get off mayhem classic April 5th through the 6th Let me say that again April 5th through the 6th. Let me say that again. April 5th through the 6th. That's only two days, ladies and gentlemen. Two days. Are people gonna be put through the ringer for two days, or is it just gonna be four workouts? Is it gonna be eight, is it gonna be 10,

is it gonna be, dude, I mean, no one's gonna catch that, but I think it's really cool to think about what the competition could be like. Most people assume it's always gonna be three days. Yeah, that's just day. It's mayhem. That's all I'll say. Wadland Fest, that's in Malaga,, Spain April 24th through the 27th. One thing to note on that, if I'm pretty sure that it is. And I was curious if you're going to see individuals going team and trying to qualify both. So

I'd have thought way in person to me finals. What do you mean qualify both? Because they're the same there at the same time. Are they not? Am I wrong? The games, individual and team games are the same time, are they not? That I don't know. I don't know where the, I don't know if that is, are teams at the same venue in the same weekend? I just saw it, I think it just says like teams, individuals, August. And it was kind of like in the same little line. So I think that that means yes. So I don't think you can do both. Right? You can't qualify a team. Yes, so I don't think you can do both right you can't qualify a team No, you can't do the same weekend Jamie Latimer is in mayhem during Masters all mine I don't know when Masters when the Masters all but I'm sure there's some overlap Yeah, hey it's come see me get blasted tomorrow night? Should we not even watch? What's

gonna happen? Probably. They're playing way out of their league, dude. It's just, they're just not at the caliber this year. And I don't know that they, I don't know that they were good enough to make it. So I guess, I don't know. We'll see. We'll see if they can bring it together. I heard a lot of people aren't really happy that they snuck in. Well, of course not, especially people from around here because South Carolina was one of the hottest teams. I definitely think they should have gotten in. I think Alabama was better too.

But I do think that the conference championship should matter, winning the conference championship matters. throw down. Conference championship should matter. Winning the conference championship should matter. So you think that for what SMU did all year, them choosing to take part in the championship game, if they would have gotten blasted and not gotten in, so they got punished for not being off that weekend, you think that that's okay? They should have and not gotten in so they got punished for not being off that weekend. You think that that's okay?

They should have still not gotten in because they made the championship and look terrible. I don't know. I don't have that much skin in the game. I don't ask me detailed questions on what I think. I follow mostly Clemson and the teams that do the best. So don't ask me questions about like- Clemson played SMU in the conference. Yeah, I know that, but I don't know much about SMU.

That's what I'm saying. I know they were- Chapel Bill. That is awesome. That way, you're ready to- Chapel Bill. That Chapel Bill is a thing. Malo, how can I sign up for WPTH if I don't have Instagram?

That's a great question. Hopefully that's a sarcastic comment. Yes, years and years of programming is on Instagram. It has been on Instagram for free. But there will be a www.wepreferthehate.com written out, not the acronym. There will be a website that will provide you a sign up. we prefer the hate written out the acronym. There'll be a website that will provide you a sign up.

Yeah, I like this comment. All right, let's go back to this. We got derailed. Mayhem Classic, yeah, of course you will. Your eyes just go to that. Speaking of acronyms, that's what your eyes go to. Mayhem Classic, April 5th through the 6th, Wadland Fest, April 24th through the 27th.

French Throwdown is May 9th through the 11th. That's the weekend after the inoffensive semis. That's worth noting. So athletes are going to do an online competition. A lot of them are probably going to compete in what? Less than seven days? Five days? Like that's a quick turnaround. So will you see some of those athletes not even do the online semis that's a that's a something to look out for renegade games that's in africa may 29th to the first along with far east throwdown syndicate crown and torian pro Uh, fitness experience and copas are don't have dates yet according to barbell spin. So hopefully they'll, hopefully they'll, Jersey slowly drifting away. It's awesome. It's a, been a common theme. I apologize to everyone. Okay. You good? I'm good.

All right. Thanks for, uh, joining Sorry that me and Angela were both Transformers most of the time or here as though we're having TIs. That's a mini stroke to lay person. Bye.