The Sevan Podcast - Ty Jenkins | 3x Fittest Teen on EARTH

Episode Date: January 29, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:51 at 1-866-531-2600. BettMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. You sound great. All right, sweet. Hey, M, we're live. All right. Are you an Adidas athlete tie? I am
Starting point is 00:01:07 Congratulations, that is cool. Thank you. That is really cool. How does that happen? I work with Daniel Robbins at lab management he does takes care on my contract stuff and he came to me in like March and Kind of came out of nowhere but I was super pumped to hear that Adidas was moving into the space and that I was one of the ones that they were looking at working with so it's um it's quite a resume three times CrossFit Games champion uh fitness for uh you were 15 wait you were 15 16 and 17 17? Yeah, yes sir.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Yeah, that's killer. And then I saw you went to Germany and I'm guessing all of that was around Adidas and because of the accolades you achieved in CrossFit. Yeah, yeah. They took Bethany, Flores and I over to Germany for like an activation event at a Lace Mills Festival. And then just to like see Adidas HQ and that was super awesome. When I hear stuff like this, it's pretty promising. It's like an investment into someone young. I mean, I'm strictly viewing you as a commodity, right? In transactional, which I wouldn't blame them, right? They're trying to sell tennis shoes, but it's really positive to think, it's an investment, right?
Starting point is 00:02:28 I mean, they want you to go on and on and on, but they obviously see promise in you, right? Yeah, I mean, like hopefully their idea is a long-term partnership, because obviously from what they've given me so far, I'm just super grateful and love working with them. And obviously I hope for myself that my career in the sport is long.
Starting point is 00:02:48 But yeah, it's been great to work with them. Do you talk to people there at Adidas? Like, do they give you an inkling? They're like, oh my God, this is great. We have a long-term interest in CrossFit. You're gonna be around forever. We're so glad that we found you. Like, what do they say to you? I mean, like what's been cool because they haven't historically been in the CrossFit space
Starting point is 00:03:09 is that like all the athletes that are there now are getting to help to develop, um, some of the, uh, you know, the shoes and the apparel and stuff like that. Um, and so that's been cool. And we've already had talks about the future future like just getting to kind of see the things that we want in the apparel come to life there in the future and something I learned is that like product development is a long road. It takes a lot longer than I originally thought and so it'll be cool to see some of that come to life in the future and yeah it's been it's been cool. Tell me about that The the little bit of interaction I had with Reebok when we were working with them when I was at CrossFit
Starting point is 00:03:50 That's what I thought too. I'm like, holy cow They already have a shoe to the shoe for two years from now is already done So that means the information you're giving them isn't getting on the floor for four years. Is that what you're talking about? Yeah, yeah, and they have like different phases of development and it's like some parts you're working with the shoe that, you know, isn't going to be out until fall 2026. And then other phases, it's like, this shoe is going to be live sometime next year. And it's like a lot farther along in the process. And it's more like, what do you think of it rather than input?
Starting point is 00:04:21 Because it's already, you know, moving towards production, which is still just cool to get to see all that process. In the early years, I remember when Rich got his first contract with Reebok and I apologize Rich if I'm mischaracterizing this, but the way I remember it is he was really excited. It was a good deal. But there became a conflict between the things they wanted him to do and what it required to train sleep and eat. And so they had to like basically go back to the drawing board and be like, hey dude, I can't do 10 things a year. Because that means every six weeks I'm getting on a plane and flying somewhere and it's just not. Is that something that, and you're young, so you're excited and obviously you you have a lot of better recovery than most human beings.
Starting point is 00:05:05 But is that something that you struggled with in the beginning? That's thankfully something that like Daniel and our agency definitely looks at when they're looking into signing with someone. It's like, okay, how often do you need us to travel outside of competition? Because obviously that takes away from training.
Starting point is 00:05:23 I was pretty smoked after the Germany trip. That was my first time to Europe. So just that jet lag is real on a 14 hour flight. But yeah, that's that's something that Daniel's always working to like protect me from. And honestly, like at this point where I'm at, because I don't have, you know, 12 sponsors pulling me a bunch of different ways. It's like all of these opportunities are huge blessings and so much fun. And you know, it's not like I'm leaving every two weeks to go internationally. So where we're at right now is like a great spot. I'm traveling in the off season to get to do some really cool things. And then once season rolls around, it's just time to get after it.
Starting point is 00:06:03 When you went to Germany, do you get to take anyone? Do you get to bring your mom or your dad? I just went with, it was just Bethany and I. It was really cool. And obviously my first time in Europe without parents, like, I mean, huge airports and long flights and like stressed out I was going to miss a connection. But I mean, they were super awesome communicating and I never felt like super worried or anything. So, it went well.
Starting point is 00:06:29 How old were you? I was 18. It was in October, I think. Was that your first time away from home? No, I've been traveling a little bit this last year. Kind of been all over the place. Like, I went up to Boise for a little bit, out to, uh, down here to Jacksonville, uh, and got to do some like, uh, just national traveling alone, which was a good warmup for the, the big international trip. Is it hard for your parents or your mom and dad? Are you close with your mom and dad?
Starting point is 00:07:01 They freak out. Yeah, we're very close. Um, I think it's to the point where my dad's like, it's like, this is an awesome opportunity. Like you're getting to do these things and you're really young and this is so cool. And like, I'm proud of you go do it. And then my mom's just like, the one who's always worried and just stressed that something's going to go wrong. But I mean, I, she's glad I'm getting these opportunities. But at the same time, she's like, he's literally across the world right now. Like if something goes wrong, I can't do anything Yeah, yeah, it's They've been excited to see me get to do this stuff. Yeah, they you're their baby, you know, it's crazy And I don't mean this in any offensive way
Starting point is 00:07:42 but when kids learn how to walk right like what Like what, between the year, you know, a year and 15 months, I remember when my kids learned how to walk and I'm like, wow, he doesn't have the mental capacity to have these tools because you see him walking, but they bump into stuff. You know what I mean? They hit corners, they fall down, they're a mess. They'll walk right off the edge of stairs. You're like, dude, you've been given, uh, you know, a pilot's license and you have no idea how to fly and it's probably it's it's you know, whether it's true or not, parents probably see it that way on the outside. You're a full blown man.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Uh, but they're also like, but there's gotta be a transition period, right? So where it's like, he looks like a man. I mean, it looks like something that knows how to walk, but it's like, dude, this thing can walk right off the stairs. And it's funny for, uh, when your dad's like, you have these opportunities and all this stuff. I was pretending like it was me and I was thinking, Oh, your dad was probably talking to himself. You thought he was talking to you, but he was trying to convince himself, you know what
Starting point is 00:08:38 I mean? To let you go because, um, obviously you're their greatest, uh, creation, right? You're their Sistine Chapel. You're their, I mean, you're their greatest piece of work. You know what I mean? You're everything that they've put into you and now it gets to go out and tour the world. Yeah. Yeah. It's been a, yeah, I definitely think that the first few times I traveled alone, even my dad was probably a little stressed, but luckily like, and this is something I think that I was talking to Miley Wade last night
Starting point is 00:09:10 to like a lot of the teenagers in the CrossFit space, especially if we're training at affiliates, it's like we're surrounded by, I mean, like married men with kids and like that's who my company has been the last four years. Some of my closest friends are, you know, state troopers, firefighters, like they're all grown up and it really forced me to grow up quickly. And so I think I maybe have handled some of these opportunities better than a lot of other kids my age because I've, I've been forced to grow up so quickly. Yeah. I mean, when I, when I was your age, I went over to Europe for six months for school.
Starting point is 00:09:49 And the first thing I did is look for a bar, look for a place to get weed, you know, start chasing girls. And it is cool that you went you when you travel, at least you're on a mission. Like you have goals and schedules and you're around people. Your general mission keeps you out of, you know, getting in trouble. I'm not saying that there's not a place for that stuff, but like I probably shouldn't have been in bars at 18 in Europe. What did you say? Say that again, Ty? What were you studying overseas? I would say anyways. Say that again, Ty? What were you studying overseas?
Starting point is 00:10:25 I don't even remember. I did a semester in college there over at the University of London. And it was great. It was great. I mean, I saw a lot and learned a lot, but it would have been, it's better to go places with intention,
Starting point is 00:10:40 especially when you're young. Yeah. So you go there you come back do you your mom call you every night when you're over there yeah yeah yeah usually I try to figure out when both the parents are home and I'll call them on speakerphone and just tell them tell them about the day make sure they know I'm all right and that's another thing when I was a kid that call would have been it's like it was like 20 bucks or 30 bucks a minute Now you can just whatsapp them for free, right?
Starting point is 00:11:07 Yeah, I'm I know that like my calls over there. It's like 10 bucks a day or something to have service It's not not horrible. So that's great Um, do you would that be the ultimate goal just to have one sponsor? One solid sponsor behind you as opposed to, you know, um, having to scrape together 10 sponsors and have that responsibility. Um, I mean, I don't know if it's necessarily a number of sponsors, but it's definitely like a cap to the number of responsibilities. Like the more I can just focus on training and competing, the better, like, kind of like I mentioned earlier,
Starting point is 00:11:47 some people are pulled 10 different ways. And if they're having to do one or two trips a year to the headquarters of all the sponsors they have, then their off season is not an off season. They're traveling and super busy and wore out the whole time. And so I don't know if it's necessarily like a number of sponsors that'll make that. That's where I want to be. But it's more of like just a number of responsibilities where I don't
Starting point is 00:12:12 feel wore out all the time. Because when you get back from competing, it's like I got two weeks before I got to go do this activation event for this brand. And then I'm back another two weeks and get a travel. And then there's four weeks of training that are kind of thrown for a loop because you're doing so much traveling. And do you stress about that in regards to training like every day and every minute is an opportunity to get better at CrossFit and so if you're not either if you're not you know sleeping or eating right or training that you're like losing time. Yeah. I mean every night I don't get nine hours of sleep. I'm like frustrated the next morning. And then obviously nutrition when traveling
Starting point is 00:12:53 is so difficult. Um, especially when, you know, here at the apartment, I'm making the same few meals all the time and, and totally locked in, uh, nutritionally. And then you go traveling and it's like, I mean, even you go get a burger at a restaurant versus making like ground beef here and it's totally different. They're putting all sorts of crap in it and it just messes up everything.
Starting point is 00:13:15 You notice it. Oh yeah, yeah. I usually feel horrible when I'm eating out traveling. Wow, what do you normally eat at home? Is it like clockwork? Yeah. Yeah. Like breakfast is usually like overnight oats and Greek yogurt.
Starting point is 00:13:31 And then lunch is ground beef, eggs and rice. And then dinner is grilled chicken. And sometimes some more rice. Sometimes I'll throw it in tortillas and make little tacos. But that's pretty much it. What about steak? Why? What about steak? I don't have an air fryer here or a grill. So I used to do like New York strips and the air fryer. That was something I had. Actually, I think I learned from J.R. Howell and used to do like steak and fruit a lot, but I don't have an air fryer here yet. So I haven't done
Starting point is 00:14:04 that recently, but I don't have an air fryer here yet So I haven't done that recently, but do you miss that the state? Yeah, I love steaks. Hey, um, oh Where are you? I'm in Jacksonville, Florida now. So you're with brute now. Yeah. Yeah Congratulations. What a What in you're working directly with Matt Torres? Uh, what, and you're working directly with Matt Torres? Uh, so Matt is kind of like my, like feet on the ground down here at base and like, he's helping me day in, day out, but I actually get programming from another coach, Jaden, who lives in Australia. So he does like, we work together on my programming and then Matt is like my
Starting point is 00:14:40 eyes and ears while I'm training. So literally like you'll'll you're in the room working out and he's there. Yeah. And he's like the real-time feedback to you. Yeah. Yeah. And is your programming different because of your age? Because I mean you're basically, tell me if I'm mischaracterizing this, but you're going through a transition. You're making or you've made the leap from training as a teenager to training as an adult? Yeah. And that changed actually after my second year at the games as a teenager. That last
Starting point is 00:15:13 year I was still training to win the teenage CrossFit Games, but it was more of a focus on let's not train what I'm bad at against teenagers. Let's train what I'm bad at against the elites because I know that it there's gonna be a multiple year process and let's start it early so we can jump that gap as soon as we can. And that would be, you won the game, the last time you won the games was 2022? Three.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Three, so you won 21, 22 and 23. Yes sir. And your training for going to the 23 games was more like prepping you for the demands of the adult CrossFit games. Yeah, absolutely. Oh, that's smart. Who came up with that? That was me.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Yeah, that's smart. That's really, really smart. And any pushback from Jaden or was Jessica and Carl, were they your coaches at that time? Yeah, yeah. So at that point, the 2023 season, I took a lot of my programming into my own hands. And then was working with Jess and Carl a lot. As far as like day in, day out stuff. Jess has always been a huge help with like mindset and nutrition. And then Carl was like, would be watching me in the gym, making sure movements not sloppy, stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Where can I clean up certain things? And he's very good with Olympic lifts as well. And then my terrain, I live, you know, half an hour to an hour away from Christine Kolenbrander and Jared Stevens. And so, you know, once, twice a week week I'd pop in up there as well at CrossFit 417 and train with them. And there's several other high athletes, high level athletes kind of in that area.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Um, and so that was like the 2023 season. I had so much help. Like it was a big, a big combination of a bunch of people. Um, and it kind of worked out this little perfect storm. Where were you born, Ty? Branson, Missouri. And how many people live there? The signs I'll say 10,000 but I bet it's like 15,000, 20,000 now. And what's it like there? Like when you drive like when you leave your house do you always see cows no matter where you go? it like there? Like when you drive, like when you leave your house, do you always see cows no matter where you go? Like if you drive, then you look out the window, are there cows
Starting point is 00:17:27 and stuff? Yeah. I mean, our neighbors got like they had donkeys for a while and our other neighbors have a bunch of horses still. And, um, but Brandon's a unique little town. It's, it's a tourist town and over a million people come through it every year, but there's just not a whole lot of people that live there. Uh, but a cool place to grow up because you're like 30 minutes from a lake in an amusement park and there's like three movie theaters and just everything you could want to grow up with as a kid, but there's not a whole lot of people that live there. And so the winners, it's just like you have this massive town that no one's in and it's amazing. And is the tourist thing is the amusement park? Is that what there's? There's several things things there's amusement parks, there's lots of like family shows that people go to and in the lake is beautiful
Starting point is 00:18:12 But so you grew up in an area where if you wanted to go in your backyard and shoot your BB gun you could or You have to worry about ticks and stuff like that. Yeah And and that and you stayed there till you were to this most recent departure that's been home for you. Yeah, yeah about a month ago. And siblings? Yep, I got an older brother playing Division 1 baseball in Thibodeau, Louisiana. Wow. And then younger brother is just swimming and volleyball and he's a sophomore in high school.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Wow, you close with them? Yeah, for sure. My older brother and I were super, super competitive growing up. a sophomore in high school. Wow, you close with them? Yeah, for sure. My older brother and I were super, super competitive growing up and everything. We both played baseball and football and then little brother and I swam. So there was some competitiveness and bonding
Starting point is 00:18:57 through sports with both my brothers. I was watching, I can't remember who, I watched a bunch of your interviews yesterday and one of them was talking about your 10 years of swimming. And I started smiling so big. That must be something you're so stoked about because that's obviously the Achilles for a lot of CrossFit athletes.
Starting point is 00:19:18 And you talked about how not only, you know, has it been good because you like getting in the water, but even the athletes who swim fast, they still have to deal with the recovery probably more so than you do because of your experience and efficiency in the water. Do you just love that? Is that like your kind of like your ace card? Yeah, I love anytime a swim comes up and it's almost where like if I have movements that I'm dreading and like weaknesses, I almost want them to be in the swim workout because I know that my swimming will like almost neutralize the weakness for that workout. Um, but any swim workout, like of my favorite workouts I've ever done at big
Starting point is 00:19:56 competitions, they're always the swims. Uh, better, better. Your, your breathing techniques, better in the water. Your stroke is better. Your pacing, you know how to rest in the water, all those things. So if it is a bad movement, when you get out, it, your, your breathing techniques, better in the water. Your stroke is better. You're pacing, you know how to rest in the water, all those things. So if it is a bad movement, when you get out, it's like, okay, don't worry. Those guys struggle. Even if they did well in the swim, they struggled more than I did. Yeah. Yeah. And it's funny all the time. I find swimming, translating to other areas, you know, I mean,
Starting point is 00:20:20 just examples like rowing and barbell cycling, you're on like cadence breathing. And a lot of people struggle with that versus where swimming, it's like, you can only breathe at certain times because of cadence and breathing every fifth stroke or whatever it is, depending on the distance. And so I don't struggle to pick up
Starting point is 00:20:39 like breathing patterns as much. And then running, obviously, that's another one where every fifth or sixth step, depending on the distance, like you're breathing in a cadence. And that's all stuff that's translated super well from swimming. So I'm super glad to have that background. It's interesting. Just spitball in here. What do you think if you were, if you, if you wanted to set your kid up for success, um, to be a good cross fitter, what sports would you put them in as a child? Um, swimming a combat sport and gymnastics for sure. And then a team,
Starting point is 00:21:14 exactly what I was thinking, dude. I was thinking swimming, wrestling, and gymnastics. And then you gotta have a, say that again, I have a team sport too. Why is that? Why? There's just a mental aspect to it. Um, where you're, you get used to doing hard things with a group of people. Um, football is one where, you know, August in Missouri is it's a hundred degrees outside. It's super humid. It's miserable. Um, and you're like with a band of brothers and it's like, if you're not going to quit, I'm not going to quit. And you guys are suffering together. of brothers and it's like if you're not going to quit, I'm not going to quit.
Starting point is 00:21:45 And you guys are suffering together. And then that all comes together on Friday nights when you're out on the football field and gives you like a sense of like brotherhood and community. And at the same time teaches you to work hard and then other people depend on you. And yeah, I wouldn't trade my sports backgrounds for anything. Teresa, my boys swim for 30 minutes Monday through Friday. Uh, and then go straight into two hours of jujitsu and striking. Oh, that's awesome. I wish I would have done jujitsu grown up.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Oh, there's still time. Yeah. Yeah. But, but find a, find a good group. You need to be with a good group. No, you don't want anyone to hurt you. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. Would you do that? Would you do any other sports right now? I mean, I would love to get into right now. I'm still just there's a lot that I'm still figuring out. I mean, the move is still pretty new. I think as of today, I've been down here a month. So I need to figure some stuff out. But, you know, things I like to do on the side are like, go climbing or go mountain biking. And then, uh, yeah, I'd love to get into a combat sport eventually. Um,
Starting point is 00:22:50 but it's like hard to find the time for all that stuff. So I'm still balancing what is the most important for use of my time. And you talked about, um, uh, you were on, uh, uh, Stella's podcast and you're talking about pickleball pickleball safe for crossfititters. Is that safe for CrossFitters? Yeah. I think like anything, you got to be smart and warm yourself up. But I love any sort of like dynamic sport that causes you to be explosive, especially laterally, because that's something we neglect in CrossFit. And as silly as it seems, pickleball can supply that at times.
Starting point is 00:23:25 And I've heard Dallin and Corrine saying that once it gets a little warmer here, they go hard on pickleball. So we'll have to go play some. Did you play tennis? I did not know. Okay. You slightly mentioned it that you like pickleball because you could do two hours of it as opposed to tennis 40 minutes.
Starting point is 00:23:42 So I was just wondering maybe if you had, uh, if you had played tennis, tennis is a wild sport too. That was an assumption. I mean, it seems like there's a lot more. Fair. It's fair. It's totally, uh, totally fair assumption. Um, so you're, so what did you do? What did your parents put you in as a kid? Did they put you in sports early? Yeah, I played several sports growing up. Um, I did, let's see, soccer and basketball were ones that I did when I was really young.
Starting point is 00:24:09 And then they didn't, like, I didn't carry those all the way up to high school. I did wrestling very, very briefly. And I just, at the time, it wasn't for me. I was pretty passive as an athlete growing up. And I wish I would have stuck with it, but I didn't. But you know, the big three I carried into high school were swimming, football, and baseball. Swimming, football, baseball, were you passive in those?
Starting point is 00:24:40 I think I was a passive athlete until I really started to lean into swimming and loving the individual competitive side. Because all the other sports I did growing up, hold like my month or two of wrestling, were team sports. And then I got into individual sports and there was like a switch that flipped. And it was like, I got whooped one time. I was like 11, 12 years old and I got whooped. And then I was like, that sucks,
Starting point is 00:25:07 but there is no one else to blame. Like, you know, in a team sport, when you lose, you could, it's not a good habit, but you can always be like, yeah, so-and-so didn't play well. That kind of costs us the game. But in swimming, when it's just you in the water and you lose, it's all on you. And I think that's part of what I like
Starting point is 00:25:23 about CrossFit as well. It's like, if you fall short, it's like your preparation was lacking or you didn't put in the work or you didn't execute well. There's nowhere to point fingers. And so I think that's where I got like a little bit of that super competitive kind of dropped some of my being passive and then football helps to like when you get to high school football and you're a freshman lining up against seniors, it's like you can't be soft, you gotta be aggressive. Why didn't you quit swimming?
Starting point is 00:25:53 Why didn't you say, hey, I do enough sports, this one's just not for me, I'm really good at this, this and this. Why do you think you saw, why do you think you saw it as a challenge to get better? I just, yeah, I, I mean, I just loved it. I was decent. Like, um, when I started naturally I was gifted as a swimmer, uh,
Starting point is 00:26:27 before I ended up being five foot nine 5'9 when everyone else was short. And then kind of going through there and I loved it. There was nothing like it. And then it got to the point where I started doing CrossFit and swimming together and my swimming performance fell off. I just wasn't good enough to keep up with a lot of the guys. And then my first year at the games, I was like, I think swimming was a big part of my preparation because I swam that summer, I swam it. I did swim practice five days a week. It was a big part of my preparation. And so after 2021, I'm like, my swimming career competitively might be over, I might not be able to catch all these guys,
Starting point is 00:27:04 like, I wasn't getting to the wasn't going to be at the junior Olympics or anything. And crazy, like some 18 year old guys are competing at the Olympics as swimmers. Um, and it was like, this still helps CrossFit so much that I'm going to stay in it. Uh, and I just love the water. Like still one of my favorite things to do is just like go to the lake and just swim for fun and just hang out Like I love being in the water Are you swimming a lot in Jackson? I?
Starting point is 00:27:30 Haven't since we've been down. We're waiting for it to warm up a little bit There's a lot of outdoor pools and it's been like 35 degrees here, which does not feel like Florida So once it warms up, I definitely plan on it And that's another thing where it's like in the off season, I can be a little more passive with my swimming training. Like a lot of people in CrossFit need to be swimming twice a week year round to keep up. And I can relax a little bit at times and not have to stress about it. Because I know once I get back in the water consistently, like it'll come right back. How long did it take before you started from getting whooped to started winning consistently?
Starting point is 00:28:06 In swimming? Yeah. It was a couple years. It's been so long since I made that switch. I want to say it was like when I was 11 or 12, that was really when I made the switch. And then when I was 13 and 14, I made our like our A state championships, both years there for like five or six of my eight events. And so those were kind of the two years that it went really well. And then COVID happened. And then I, it was like, I came back from COVID
Starting point is 00:28:38 and couldn't keep up. It's like, everyone just got really, really good over COVID. And I did not. And so, but that was also my segue into CrossFit because I started doing CrossFit to get better at swimming, football and baseball. And then started competing shortly after that. You tell a story where you were a little kid and you were doing one practice a day, but you knew that there were two practices a day and you walked up to the coach and
Starting point is 00:29:08 you said, Hey, can I do both practices? And the coach says, well, no one does that. And you're like, well, I want to do it. And then like, all right, fine. Was that scary? Did you ask your parents first? Can you give me the details of that story? Did you ask your parents first if you could do that? Was it scary asking the coach that a little bit I think that the coach knew that I had been frustrated and really wanted to get better and Wanted there to be like no excuse get in the water as much as I can
Starting point is 00:29:38 Do everything I can to win? and so Yeah, I talked to my parents about it because you, at that point, I was still getting a ride to and from practice. And I was just like, Hey, I think I want to stay for both practices. Like these other kids, they've got to be swimming more than an hour and a half a day. Like they're, they're too good to just be doing that. And so there was two back-to-back practices in the morning with two different groups. And I just pulled the coach aside and I was like, Hey coach, can I stay for the second practice? And can you write me another workout? Because like these next two years, I really
Starting point is 00:30:12 want to make, I want to be a state champion. That's what I wanted to do. And so you were just a little kid. Yeah. I was like 12 or 13. And then, uh, yeah, that, that was kind of that and it super propelled my swimming. Like it made me so much better. And so that's too, where I think some of the work ethic was born. It's like, oh, I see like I'm swimming three hours a day instead of an hour and a half, and I'm getting way better. So it's like the progress that I saw there, I was like learned really quick that hard work, you know, can pay off
Starting point is 00:30:45 if you are willing to do the hard things. Did your parents push back on that at all? Or, you know, as you walk back to your mom and you're like, mom, I'm staying for the next price, you know, she's sitting on the bleachers cold waiting for you to finish swimming. And you're like, I'm staying for another hour. She's cool with it. I mean, luckily, like our summers are beautiful. So I'm pretty sure she would like go walking or running during the hard practices. But I don't remember there being any pushback.
Starting point is 00:31:13 She would always check on me to make sure I wasn't burnt out or injured or doing something like to get myself hurt. But I don't remember her ever pushing back significantly. I think she was like happy to see that I, you know, had a little bit of a fire lit underneath me and was ready to really get after it. Um, did you ever, were you ever, um, I hear stories of parents whose kids are like, they'll be like, Oh man, it was such a struggle bringing kids to swimming today.
Starting point is 00:31:40 It was such a struggle bringing my kid to tennis today or such a struggle bringing my kids to jujitsu today. Did you, did you, did your parents have to drag you to these things? Did you ever throw temper tantrums when they're like, Hey, get in the car. We're going to practice. Did you ever have any pushback? Definitely not. Um, since I started swimming, uh, maybe when I was like six or seven years old, it's hard to remember sometimes. I have, but I know once I really got serious about swimming, that it was like practice was the best part of the day, especially baseball practice. I get out of
Starting point is 00:32:10 school and we'd have three hours till baseball practice. And I'd just be like, just waiting, just so ticked off that I had to wait three hours to go to baseball practice. And I had a baseball coach who was like, if you're going to be the best, you get to practice 30 minutes early and you're the last one to leave after practice. And that was like, I love that. So I learned to love practice. And I mean, especially baseball is a sport where like, physically, you can practice for four hours and not get smoked and tired. You can't really swim for like five hours straight. You have to have a break in there. But baseball, because it's a lower impact on your body, you could be there forever. And so that was something that
Starting point is 00:32:50 I learned to love practice quickly. Baseball practices are long. I mean, spring break practices were seven, eight hours a day. Yeah, we'd get like three hours in the morning, lunch break, three, four hours in the afternoon. And so you learn to love practice and donating your whole day to a sport. And you're there with your friends. Yeah, that helps. That absolutely helps.
Starting point is 00:33:15 It's interesting. Just recently, when as my oldest boy turned 10, the tennis coach has said, Hey, we're never going to start practice unless you're sweating. So you better get here 30 minutes before. And when I show up, I'm going to touch your head. And if you're, your head's not wet, we're not, we're not doing practice. But what else are your kids doing? Um, tennis, jujitsu, uh, swimming, uh, skateboarding. Oh, that's cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:47 Yeah. And so it's go, go, go, but no team sports. And I always think about that. Um, I think my kids, my kids really like baseball. Oh yeah. Yeah. So I always think maybe I should get them into baseball. I took them to a soccer, uh, uh, uh, time one time and they all cried. They didn't want to get out on the field. I think there's something about baseball that, I mean, the hand-eye coordination alone, and then just, you really learn how to connect your lower and upper body. Um, like with explosive movement, it's kind of like what they teach at the level one, like quarter extremity. That's, I mean, that's baseball.
Starting point is 00:34:21 That's everything starts in the hips and baseball. And so that's something that you learn like where your power comes from, how to be coordinated in that. I think hitting a baseball is one of the hardest things to do in all of sports. And throwing is also a difficult motion for people who never do it.
Starting point is 00:34:36 So if they love baseball, I say absolutely let them go play. You know what's a trip is, Speeler was a tremendous, Chris Speeler from back in the day, he was a CrossFit athlete, was a tremendous athlete, a great fighter, a great wrestling career. And he didn't have a quarter of extremity figured out to that final, just the final part, right? He didn't have this part figured out.
Starting point is 00:34:58 And one of my boys who's the best fighter who just dominates all the tournaments we go to, he doesn't have this part too. And so like it's such a trip watching a move. We were playing Frisbee yesterday on the beach for a couple hours and he throws with his arm instead of his wrist. Yeah. And, but I guess it's just going to be just thousand and we throw a lot, but it's, I guess I'm just gonna have to teach him thousands and thousands of repetitions until finally
Starting point is 00:35:20 he figures out that last. Did you ever see people on the baseball team who didn't have that? Yeah. Yeah. You'd ever see people on the baseball team who didn't have that? Yeah, yeah. And you'd actually see that on the baseball team. All the guys be like, what the fuck is that? Are you a shot putter? I mean, you can just tell by the way the ball came out of their hand
Starting point is 00:35:33 that they weren't getting all the power that they could. And usually the coaches were good about being quick to fix that, but you can tell. I mean, you can see, especially when like you're coaching young kids, a lot of them do that. You know, they, they miss the, the wrist and the fingers are the last like stroke of power to your throw. And a lot of them, you know, they grip the ball like this and then just kind of push it forward and you're just not getting any power out of that.
Starting point is 00:36:00 Yeah. It's a, it's a trip. I always think, I mean, I spent my youth just throwing rocks at shit. You know what I mean? Every day, walking to school and home from school, you're just scanning the ground for that perfect rock to throw at something. When we would grow up and we would have fruit in the house that went bad, it was like our favorite thing. My mom would be like, go throw the apples at the trees. And we'd just go out there and throw four apples and just make them explode on the tree. Like that was one of our favorite things to do.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Yeah, that's a good life. Um, so, so, so your parents, why do you think, um, did you not, uh, my kids never complain either, and I think it's just cause they don't know any better. Do you think you just didn't know any better? Like my kids just like, it's just, they, no matter what they're doing, I can just be like, okay, get in the car and they get in the car. Like it's just all they know from a young age. And regarding like sports or everything?
Starting point is 00:36:50 Yes, well, pretty much everything, but especially sports. Like it's a crit, like they were on basically what sounds like you a crazy schedule of just, you know, staying, moving and training all the time, but they don't complain. But I don't even think that they know it's an option. Yeah, and I think especially if they have kids their age all the time, but they don't complain. But I don't even think that they know it's an option. Yeah. And I think, especially if they have kids their age or friends
Starting point is 00:37:08 at these sports, it's like that's their way to hang out with their friends. And kids are such social beings. It's like they want to go be social. And then if they love the sport as well, then they have no issue with going to practice. And I just remember es and swimming were in the s
Starting point is 00:37:28 be like, all right, my su get up early, go to swim the two and a half, three I was doing doubles and t I'd come home, have two, time to go to baseball pr a league game that night super late and then you j
Starting point is 00:37:44 again tomorrow and you're going super late and then you just get up and do it again tomorrow and You're so excited that that's your life during summer and it it totally beats school and you just could do that your whole life So that was I mean that was my experience at least. Hey, dude, you nailed it. You explained it so well I didn't think of it because the sport that they least if they if there was one that they pushed back on it would be Skateboarding and it's the most lonely sport. All the other sports, you're right, they go there because they can't wait to see their friends. But skateboarding is just like you,
Starting point is 00:38:10 this board and the concrete. And all that they have friends there, when you're training skateboarding and learning new tricks, it's brutal. There's no, it's just an hour of you and the concrete and a piece of wood. And they're like, oh man, we're gonna do that Yeah, that's never got into but I'm always amazed by the coordination of some of those guys at the top
Starting point is 00:38:33 very unforgiving Sport when was your tide? Do you remember your first injury as a kid? Broken bone or sometime when you had to sit out. I've never broken bone, which is awesome But I know like I had knee issues in junior high playing baseball and football. Um, and I just remember getting knees and ankles wrapped and having to sit out one or two games, uh, baseball wise, uh, because of a knee injury, but never anything major. I never really went to the hospital for an injury. Really my biggest injury that I've ever suffered was like I messed up my labor. I'm in quarterfinals this year. That's in here?
Starting point is 00:39:13 Yeah. Yeah. And what happened? I redid that gymnastics workout for the second time. So my third time doing a whole bunch of handstand push ups and ring muscle ups. And it was not my brightest decision to do that workout a third time in three days. And between the heavy clean and jerks everything else that week, the snatches, it was just a lot of wear and tear on the shoulder. And I also was like, I weighed like 210 or 215 at the time. And I learned recently that my body does not like
Starting point is 00:39:50 being at that weight because I also had some knee issues. So it was just like a bunch of mistakes that I made that ended up culminating to an injury. And how much do you weigh now? I'm 193 now. And do you like that? Yes, I felt great this weekend. Yeah. And you won this weekend at Wadapalooza. Right. Yeah. The RX division. Yeah. Congratulations.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Thank you. Thank you. That's cool. So you go to the CrossFit Games at 14. 15. That was the first time you went when you were 15? Yeah. Uh, 14, when I was 14, it was the COVID year and I actually wasn't competitive at the time. I was just doing it to be better at other sports. Okay. So, so you go in at 15, um, every round, your little surprise, you make it to the next, you're like, wow, I made it to quarters. Wow, I made it to semis. And you show up at the games and you win the games and you gave a very humble explanation of it. You basically have the realization that,
Starting point is 00:40:56 hey, I might not be the fittest person here. I just may have just had a perfect weekend, perfect execution, perfect workouts. But when you go home, do you experience any emotional like an emotional dump like you're so high and excited? Do you have any realizations about winning? What it means to you versus what maybe it doesn't mean to you? Yeah, I mean I always love this question because... because wait a second someone's asked you this before I've gotten similar
Starting point is 00:41:28 Yeah, and it's it's one I love but it's like ultimately winning will never fulfill the desire that your heart has I believe that you know There's there's a lot of people who think if I can just win, then I'll be fulfilled. And then they win it and they're like, okay, if I can win it twice or three times, then I'll be fulfilled. Uh, and then it's this never ending cycle, this, this chase and they find out they love the chase more than the reward.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Um, Right. If they're lucky, yeah, yeah. They're lucky. They realize that, that the chase, that it's about the chase not the reward And I ultimately believe there's nothing in this world that will ever fulfill the desires of our hearts You know, I think we were created in the image of God and our hearts yearn to be Back there and and with God and I think
Starting point is 00:42:20 That the Holy Spirit and Jesus is the way we fulfill that rather than anything of this world. But to answer your question, it was like, I won, this feels amazing. Woke up the next morning, got to watch the elites go for the rest of the weekends because the teenage games ended on like Friday and then the elites competed through Sunday. And then it was like, this is where I want to be.
Starting point is 00:42:42 Like I want to be on the big stage. You're in that jam packed arena with thousands of people and you're like, this is where I want to be. Like I want to be on the big stage. You're in that jam packed arena with thousands of people and you're like, this is where I want to be. So I got home and took a week off and was like, well, it's time to go. I mean, I got home as soon as I remember unloading into my bedroom, washing my clothes, putting everything up. And then I was going to make myself take a week off to let my body recover. But the day I got home,
Starting point is 00:43:09 I was like, it's time to go for next year. Like it the the high was over. It was about next year and not like, yeah, the winning feels nice, but it doesn't last very long. And did it come back to that image of God thing. And that's what we're yearning to get back for. But did you, did you, did you lose yourself in the winning and go high and feel any come down? Did you feel any depression or any like, like, Oh yeah, shit. I forgot this.
Starting point is 00:43:39 This is, this is not, this does not feel the way I thought it was going to feel. Not really, because I went into that weekend knowing who I was and knowing that My value does not come from winning or losing And it's an interesting thing to juggle in your mind because you I have that way of thinking where it's like I am made In the image of God, that's what gives me value It does not matter what I do this weekend Like I am not any less in God's eyes because I didn't win the image of God. That's what gives me value. It does not matter what I do this weekend. Like I am not any less in God's eyes because I didn't win the CrossFit Games.
Starting point is 00:44:09 But at the same time, it's, I just put seven and a half, eight hours every single day for three months training just for this event. So it's like, I'm not saying this doesn't matter because I'm gonna get after it. And I gave so much of my time for this and this matters to me. And is what I want to really pursue. But in the same breath, it's like if all goes crumbling down and it fails, it doesn't make me less as a person.
Starting point is 00:44:34 Let me ask you this. This is off the subject a little bit. But does it, if you're following what you believe are God's rules, does it matter what you're doing? Whether you're like a trash collector or a lawyer or an athlete, like can you just take those rules and be like, okay, no matter what, I'm just gonna, this is the rule book.
Starting point is 00:44:58 This is the way God wants me to behave on planet Earth. It doesn't matter as long, if I, it's so easy to serve God, all I have to do is follow these rules in any activity I'm in. Is that that what it means that is it that easy I mean yeah I don't think everyone yeah not easy to do but that that easy to sorry to intellectualize yeah yeah I mean not everyone is called to be a pastor you know there's there's gifts and fruits of the spirit and gifts of the Spirit are things that some people have
Starting point is 00:45:27 and others don't, and leadership, discernment, knowledge, things like that. And some people are more social and better at teaching than others. And I think those people might feel more called to be a pastor, but you can absolutely serve Christ wherever you're at. You know, he called the 12 disciples. They were all,
Starting point is 00:45:45 some of them were fishermen, some of them were tax collectors. They all, I mean, they were all from all over. They were a whole bunch of different people. And so, yeah, I don't think there's one profession or one way to glorify God. I think God's will for our lives as believers is to lead others to Him through whatever we do. Yeah, because you'll hear people say like, hey, I'm being selfish. But if you're always trying to, and I apologize if this isn't correct, but if you're always trying to emulate Jesus,
Starting point is 00:46:18 or you're always trying to follow the rules, to me, it wouldn't matter what you were doing because that's how we teach each other by, you know, if you say, you know what I mean? Like if, like, as a former smoker, if I see someone light up a cigarette, it causes me to want to have a cigarette. So if you're doing something that's, you know, follows God's code, you're basically telling everyone around you, this is the way to behave. So it wouldn't matter what you were doing. You could be a hairstylist, you could be a carpenter, you could be a cross fitter.
Starting point is 00:46:53 It's like, it doesn't matter as long as you're walking in that. It's a big task as we all know, right? If you're walking in this, in this rule book or in this emulation of Jesus, then you're one percenter. You're like, what more can you ask for? I'm trying to understand this idea of like where someone you could think that being a cross-fitter would be selfish. And I've trouble grasping it if that, if this other thing that we're talking about is really the way to represent God. Well, think about this. If I had decided right out of high school to give up CrossFit and go study theology in school and become a pastor,
Starting point is 00:47:35 I wouldn't be having this conversation with you. I wouldn't be able to reach certain people. So, like if everyone that was a believer became a pastor, then who's going to minister and share the gospel with all the plumbers? Because they might not ever come to church. But if you're a plumber and you're working alongside other plumbers and you're a Christian, you're the light of the world as we're called to be in the gospels, then you get to share with them that they would have never been able to hear the gospel if it weren't for you. And so that's something I struggled with a little bit
Starting point is 00:48:05 because at times being a CrossFitter can feel selfish. It's like I'm spending eight hours a day in the gym just working on myself. Like this feels really, really selfish. But at the same time, it's like the opportunities that CrossFit has provided me to witness to other people, to share the gospel to other people has been just insane and awesome and so cool. And I'm meeting
Starting point is 00:48:30 people I never would have been able to meet without CrossFit. It's interesting. And for all you know, you are a pastor. I mean, yeah, in a way. I mean, there's, yeah. So let me give you an example. So at the CrossFit Games, Lazar Jukic died and people like me became immediately aware of how people were processing the information. And since there are a lot of Christians that I'm around at the CrossFit Games, you know, James Sprague, Rich Dallin, I got to see how they processed it. And so just in their behaviors and their actions, I was able to
Starting point is 00:49:18 They were I guess word is prophesying to me, but without me even knowing it I mean I well I knew it because I'm the most aware person on planet earth, but I knew it, but they weren't overtly doing it, but I saw it. I'm like, oh, this is how this cohort, and so it said an example for all of us. Yeah, and the way I like to think about it is like a lot of people knew Jesus was was God and who
Starting point is 00:49:45 he said he was just because of the way he acted and things he did. He didn't walk around telling every single person he met that I like that I'm God. I mean there there are a few times throughout the Gospels that it's recorded that he actually claims to be God but he does but most of the people recognize him as the Messiah because of the things he did and the love he and the perfect life he walked and the love that he showed others. And so, absolutely, Rich might not have turned to you after Lazar died and talked to you directly about Jesus, but you see the way he walks and you know that he walks in the light and loves Jesus because of the way he handled things. So where does the selfishness part come in? How does that, like you know all this,
Starting point is 00:50:31 why do you think it's, I'm still struggling to grasp why you think that training, if you're a vessel for God's presence on earth, why would you think that training eight hours a day would be selfish? I don't see it. No, I think that that's something I used to wrestle with. And I have a better understanding now. It's like kind of how I already explained this platform that I've been given through the eight hours of hard work a day is now a vessel for me to share the gospel with others. So at first... Go ahead. Because those other guys, those pastors are sitting around probably reading the Bible eight hours a day to present it. But certain, like I guess, okay now I'm understanding what you're saying, but certain people,
Starting point is 00:51:11 they're not going to reach certain people. People aren't going to like their clothes, so they're not going to like them. They're not going to like their beard. They're not going to like their presentation. And so you're just a different, I guess you're just, you know, there's Instagram and there's TV and there's books and you're just a different vessel for the, or ideally what you would like to be is a different vessel for the presentation of God's Word. Yeah, absolutely. Do you think, do you know this or do you think you were programmed to be like this? Did your parents take you to church and kind of lead you or force you down this path? No.
Starting point is 00:51:50 I mean, I was definitely exposed to church growing up, but I would say that it wasn't always the center of my life. Baseball tournaments were always on the weekends and there were weeks where we would go play baseball and and not go to church. And so early on I was like, before I had a true understanding, it was like, you know, Jesus is something I consult on the side, but right now what I'm doing is school and baseball and that's my life. And I think I grew up with like general understanding and grew up in the church and I'm grateful for that. But when things really hit the road for me and my faith,
Starting point is 00:52:30 and you start dealing with mental health stuff and you get into junior high and there's social media and you're comparing yourself to other people and all this stuff, then it was like, that's when I really just tried to discover who Jesus was. And it definitely changed my life understanding Jesus rather than just, you know, going to church every Sunday. I think that's a, I mean, that's a very long conversation,
Starting point is 00:52:56 but there are a lot of people who go to church every Sunday and don't live life like Jesus, like Christians or Christian, the word Christian means like follower of Christ. And there's a lot of people who show up to church who don't follow Christ. And so, there was a switch somewhere in there for me, 14, 15 years old, where it was like, okay, I go to church, but my identity is still a baseball, football player, or in sports. And then, it hit that switch, and it's like, I'm a follower of Christ That is my identity and I do these other things as a vessel for that
Starting point is 00:53:28 Very inappropriate big baka. I saw Ty at the party at water Palooza his shirt was off He was on top of the bar dancing boy serves the Lord and the ladies. No, I couldn't even get in to get my gift bag This is fake news, this is fake news bag. This is fake news. Yeah. We're on the podium. They're like, Hey, go across the street to the hotel to pick up your stuff. And so I walk over and there's bouncers. They're like, let's see your ID. I was like, okay. And I give him my ID and they're like, we got a oh six trying to get into this club and I was like no I just want my Did you eventually get did someone go in and get it for you? Yeah, they were like they're like go ahead and go in like get the bag get out We're gonna be looking for you later tonight. You better not be here. I'm like, all right. I don't plan on
Starting point is 00:54:22 Uh, I love it, okay. Um I love it. Okay. Did you have a... two questions. I don't want to forget both of them. Let's start. I want to ask you about tools you're given. Because in a lot of practices, there's tools that are given. I've been with my wife for over 20 years and she's given me a lot of tools on how to deal with things. And a lot of them are around breathing. And then the other one is who would you be without this thought? These are just two basic tools. Like if you, if you're struggling with some thoughts and if I just say, who would I be without this thought, that thought usually scurries away.
Starting point is 00:54:56 It's like, Ooh, you see I'm bullshit and it runs away. And then obviously breathing just for really just start focusing in just on my breath. So I wanted to ask you what tools you get from Christianity that helps you through those things. But do you have a moment that you woke up, like were you walking through the field one day crying because your dog died and you think you heard God's voice
Starting point is 00:55:16 or did something happen to you that was like a catechismic shift? I don't know if I could place it on a day. I think it was a conscious effort to realize that what I'm doing is not fulfilling me. So no, I never had a dream where Jesus spoke to me in English and I saw that like no supernatural event that some people have. It was just like, I'm not feeling fulfilled. I hate this comparison game. I'm always measuring out to other people in sports
Starting point is 00:55:51 or what I look like and all this stuff. And it was just like realizing that none of that matters. And that's not where your value comes from. And that was the biggest shift. And I think that goes hand in hand with like the tools Christianity gives you. That's part of it as well as understanding. I think a lot of these people burning out on CrossFit,
Starting point is 00:56:11 it's an identity issue. Cause they're like, I am a CrossFit athlete. That's my value, that's who I am. And then there's a lot of pressure built up with that. If they don't perform how they want to, then mentally they like freak out and start having mental issues.
Starting point is 00:56:27 And I think that's something that sets me apart a little bit is just like, that's really where the switch was made for me was understanding my value and my purpose is not in sports or school or having a girlfriend, whatever that is. Like that's not, that's not where I get my value. When I intellectualize it what I want to say back to you I want to push back is all you did was switch um I am a CrossFitter not you personally but just this generic kind of character um I am a CrossFitter and I did, I got fifth, so I pissed at myself to, I'm a Christian. You just basically, you're not, you don't actually know, but you've just switched it with another story that can get you through this story. You see what I'm saying? So now
Starting point is 00:57:18 if you take seventh place, you'll be like, well, God still loves me. And that still doesn't get me to the point where I am with God. I am serving God. Do you see what I'm saying? It just seems like sometimes I think from the outside, it looks like Christianity is just more mental gymnastics to mitigate the stress of life as opposed to something that's real. I'm going to die, I serve the Lord, I accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior, and I'm going to go to heaven. And so, I'm always looking for like, how do you know? Because, and don't get me wrong, it's clearly working for you, right?
Starting point is 00:58:04 But for those of us who are on the outside, it's like, how do we know? Yeah, yeah. And I get the skepticism. Like, I'm a skeptical person by nature. Like to say I never doubt. The earth is flat, Ty? The earth is flat? No, no, I've flown around it.
Starting point is 00:58:17 It's not flat. I've looked out the plane window. It's not flat. Oh, damn it. God, that would be fun if we could somehow make that real. That would be so fun. I just want that to be true just because it would be so fun. It would freak so many people out.
Starting point is 00:58:34 Yeah, but I mean, ultimately, like that goes hand in hand with purpose. And I know that some people want it physically in front of them in order to believe it. Like they want to be able to see it, taste it, touch it, smell it, like to believe it. But yeah, it's just like, if God is not real and we were not created, then none of this matters anyways. Like where do you get moral value and love and things like that if we're all just a result of evolution
Starting point is 00:59:03 or whatever you want to call it. Like if we're just all a bunch of a clump of cells and a bunch of our brain sending signals to our body to make us feel a certain way, like it's all reactions. None of it's emotion or love or existence and none of it matters. Like C.S. Lewis puts it, he's like if Christianity is false, then it doesn't matter at all. But if it's true, then it's of the utmost importance. Amen. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:31 Yeah. So it's like, at the end of the day, I have, I don't have the doubts, but at the end of the day, if I'm wrong, then I lived a life that was fulfilling to me. It worked out mentally. I have good mental health. I lived a life that was fulfilling to me. It worked out mentally. I have good mental health. I lived a life serving others. I lived with the utmost joy and enjoyed my life. And then it's all over. But if an atheist is wrong,
Starting point is 00:59:54 then they live their life how they wanted to and they're wrong for eternity, which is super unfortunate. And obviously what I'm working against, cause I don't want anyone. Like if I think I know how the fate of the world ends and what happens after we die, how much would I have to hate someone to not tell them? Like I don't want anyone to to not get into heaven. Right. Obviously it sounds so amazing. I want everyone to be up there with us. So that's that's how I get the mental gymnastics approach.
Starting point is 01:00:23 I've been skeptical at times. It's like I can can't see, taste, touch, or feel God. So why do I believe? And like, it's hard. I wish there was the internet in the 2000s so we could have a video of Jesus walking out of the tomb and know it. But if you take the Bible, when you take even accounts outside of the Bible,
Starting point is 01:00:43 there's enough historical evidence to connect the dots and believe and to see what God has done through that. Um, and it's a beautiful thing. And that, that's kind of where I'm at. Um, I don't mean this to be, um, uh, blasphemous, but also the code, the code works. As in you, you follow, you follow, you follow the. You follow the scripture, you follow the rules, and you do actually live a good life. It's not like you end up going to Africa and drinking Kool-Aid and die with a bunch of other people.
Starting point is 01:01:17 Yeah. There's not a principle in the Bible, if you took and applied to your life, that your life would get worse. Yeah, I know. That in itself is pretty. I mean, that's all you need. That's I mean, for me, that's all I need. Yeah. Like you never feel bad for you never feel bad for helping a lady out of the grocery store, you know, or stopping to pick up a piece of trash at the beach or you know what I mean, paying for the guy in front behind you or in front of you who forgot his checkbook or whatever.
Starting point is 01:01:43 Yeah. You always feel you follow all the rules and you're good. Treat other people the way you want to be treated and in your life blossoms, right? Good things start happening back to you. I um, where do you see this? I have no idea. Does it not make you curious? Ask me again in a different way. Like you're saying that you love the Bible or like that you think some of these Bibles truths will improve your life and things like that and you see how rich and all them handle death and you noticed it.
Starting point is 01:02:22 I mean it was enough to like, does that make you curious to do some of your own research or, or have you pressed into it in the past? Well, it's the only reason why I had you on. Um, no, uh, Hey, I'm all for it. I assume it, uh, I assume that, um, somewhere inside of me that I'm being used by God. That's where my, that's. That's where my faith lies. I assume that sometimes I'll joke with myself at night, okay, so I'm just being, I'm like, I have to hang out over here,
Starting point is 01:02:59 and at the last minute I'll be called. You know what I mean? But I assume that I'm being used by God. And does it not make you wanna like, like if I claim to be living a life that I think is better and I'm not dealing with with depression or anxiety and things like this because of my faith, like,
Starting point is 01:03:20 and you think eventually you'll be called to that. Does it not make you wanna pursue God, run towards God if you already feel like you'll be called to that, does it not make you want to pursue God, run towards God if you already feel like you're being called? Um, I think I am. I think I am. I think I am. Okay, yeah. So in what ways? Um, for just example, just even having this conversation. Yeah. For example, just even having this conversation publicly. I assume I am. I just see how I interact with the world and I assume sometimes I'm like, who the fuck is this guy? And I
Starting point is 01:03:55 just assume, oh, that must be God. So I assume I'm, maybe that's my own faith, I assume I'm I'm maybe that's my own faith. I assume I'm on my path. Gotcha. My life feels like I'm on my path. And that makes sense. Like I always feel like I'm in the right place at the right time doing the right thing. Yeah. Yeah. And does it does it make you want to learn why? I mean, there's so much that the, the gospel specifically, but even the entire Bible, like, give me an example, like what would be, what would be like a why? Give me an example. Like what would be, no, I kind of don't want, I'm a no. Um, uh, you know, let's say I'm, let's say I'm scrolling through Instagram or I'm on YouTube
Starting point is 01:04:45 or like the other day, Dave's like, Hey dude, you should watch that movie, the show, that show, the chosen. And I started watching that show, the chosen. I'm like, Oh, this is good shit. And then in my brain, I'm like, Oh God, this is God gave me this, you know, if I, if I, the God gave me this because now I'm ready to see this. Gotcha. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:03 I'm like, damn, Simon was a boss. So I just feel like I'm on my, for instance, for instance, what if, like, I'll tell you the mental gymnastics idea, what if God called me to be to be,, um, more of a believer and wear it more on my sleeve. I, that's not the right word, but then who would be like you were saying, who would, who would be down here? Like I just feel like I'm just a tool of whatever's happening and I'm in the right place at the right time learning at my own speed.
Starting point is 01:05:39 Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. But when the guy walks up to me in the middle of Trafalgar square in London and says, will you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and savior? I'm like, yeah that makes sense But when the guy walks up to me in the middle of Trafalgar Square in London and says will you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior? I'm like, yeah, he says repeat after me and I do it. You know what I mean? I'm not like But I'm not um Yeah And I haven't read anything and I haven't read anything in the Bible that I'm like, oh, this is some fucked up shit
Starting point is 01:06:03 I do I'm not mom. I'm not part of this group. Yeah. Yeah, so would you are you saved? Are you going to heaven? I know I have no idea. I Mean, I don't really believe in I don't think I believe in heaven So what I believe in heaven so you don't think anything happens after we die. No Just eternal dark like non-existent this? It's a poof. Really? Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. I mean I would say if you're still feeling that calling on your heart like the Gospels are a great place to start. It gives you some answers that's for sure. Yeah my sister gave me a Bible
Starting point is 01:06:39 the other day. Oh that's awesome. Yeah. Have you opened it? No. But I plan on it. Yeah. Yeah. I wanted to add, there was another part to this I wanted to ask you about. Damn it. Okay, we'll come back to it. We'll circle back. This is a great conversation. I didn't want to leave it until there were a few other pieces I wanted to turn over. So I apologize for going to the mundane, but let me go back to the mundane a little bit. When you switch from and I have no issues traveling back and forth. So if there's something else you want to add, we can do it. When you're with Carl Butz at your affiliate. Yep.
Starting point is 01:07:25 And then you meet the great CrossFitter, Jessica Griffith, who now is Jessica Kavoy. Kavoy, yep. Kavoy. What's it like then switching to Brute? Is everyone on the same team? Is that hard? Is that hard for Carl and Jessica and yourself
Starting point is 01:07:44 to kind of like make that change? I don't think so. So Jessica obviously is starting a family now, which is awesome. And I'm so happy for her. And so after we trained together in 2021, and then she retires, and then she starts her family. And she's like, Hey, I'm around the area. I'm gonna be here if you need anything, but like she's running her business, got her life. She doesn't have time to be a full-time coach. And I respect that. And then Carl in the same way is just a vacuum of knowledge
Starting point is 01:08:15 and is going to be a phenomenal coach, but has been coaching CrossFit for like two years. I mean, for what he already knows, he is one of the best coaches I've ever been around. And there's another teenager in Branson who's been training and she just won the 16 to 18 girls down at Waterpalooza and is hopefully gonna make a run at the games this year, the Teenage CrossFit Games.
Starting point is 01:08:40 And then he, Carl and I talked a lot about kind of my future and he thinks it's a great, a great thing for me to go get with coaches as experienced and accomplished as the ones at Brute. Just because he's still learning so much and just didn't feel like in a place to coach me full time. Or at least that's my understanding. And he's never done, or he did all of my programming in 2021, then- Please, who is this again? This is Carl.
Starting point is 01:09:12 Carl, yeah. And then, you know, I worked with Mayhem 2021, 22 as well. So he was helping me with that and we were- Who were you working with at Mayhem, Ty? Jake Locker did the stuff. God, he's great. God, he's great. I love him. And then 2023 rolls around, Christine jumps to harder. It pays off. And she's like my most closest training partner. And so then I go programming for myself, training with her occasionally. And then Carl is just like the overseer. Like he is in person with me, watching me do stuff,
Starting point is 01:09:52 helping me program. And through all that, it, it, this opportunity with Bruce arose. And we were just like, we're going to take it. I'm down, my lease expires in August and we'll see what happens after that. But just a good opportunity to learn a lot from Dow and Enfee. And that was one of the biggest things was like high level training partners in my area, there's one a ton of them. And Christine sat out last season because we're back. And so I wanted to be down somewhere else for a year, just to learn as much as I can and get as good as I can And so brute was that opportunity and yeah, we're down here and I'm loving it so far Is this your first time being with down like hanging out with him this much?
Starting point is 01:10:37 Yeah, I came down in October to like scope things out a little bit for a week and then moved down A month ago, and what's he like? Oh he's awesome. He's like I mean anything that he sees that I'm doing wrong or like that he can help with he's just always giving back and I love it and he's been super super helpful. seems, uh, him and Sprague, uh, if your parents, if I could, if I, if my kid wanted to be a professional crossfitter and I could get him around Dallin or James Sprague, I would be in heaven. Yeah. Yeah. They're awesome. They're both awesome.
Starting point is 01:11:17 Um, I want to, um, I won't forget. I remember what I was going to talk to you about and about the God talk. Um, we'll come back to it one second. Um, see people, these weirdos, like Colton Mertens, Austin Hatfield raises rabbits, that weirdo out in Iowa raises pigs. Does that, does it trip you out at all? Like here I am, there's this group, there's this cohort that's just training full time. And then there's these other guys that are like, I mean, like Austin's like taking rabbits to like, you know, some store that's got gravel on the floor and still has a leg here. It doesn't have a cash register. You know what I mean? He's selling rabbits to people to eat. Does it trip you out
Starting point is 01:11:59 that it's like that? That the, the field is that diverse? Yeah. And you know, for the time being, I'm kind of in kind of playing both sides. When I was back home, I worked for six months doing R&I for like a paintless dent repair shop. What's R&I? It's like replacing install on vehicles. So pulling headliners down, taking off doors, stuff like that for them to get fixed you were doing that Yeah, oh, that's awesome. How'd you learn how to do that? Is that scary like you're gonna? Yak up someone's car. Oh, yeah, especially the expensive ones. Yeah, you're like they're like remove that headliner on that Ferrari
Starting point is 01:12:36 You're like what? The mirror on like a new GMC like three quarter ton is like 1200 bucks. So rear view mirror. Yeah. So you crack that thing that comes out of your paycheck. Crazy. Well, luckily, I have an awesome boss who it's actually Carl. So okay, coach that he got me into this.
Starting point is 01:13:02 And it's like, something like that happens, especially early on we would all eat the cost of it on the entire job Not just me, which is nice But yeah, you definitely have to move carefully in some of those vehicles Speaking of team sport that's like a team that's another team sport, right? Like if everyone's eating it and you're the guy that broke the $1,200 mirror and everyone's taken home $200 less that day, people are pissed. Yeah. Yeah. They don't, they don't, they do a good job of not showing it, but I imagine inside that hurts a little bit that we all ate 400 bucks. Were you painting cars?
Starting point is 01:13:37 I was not painting them though. Okay. Were you around that stuff? I can't have you around that stuff. No, no. I mean, every once in a while you catch a whiff of it when you're picking up a car at the shop, but no, no. What other jobs have you had? That's the biggest or like the only official job I've had and I've loved it. So I go into this coffee shop the other day. I'm on,port Beach, hanging out with some friends down here. In Newport Beach, California. It's like 300 miles south of my home. And I get up in the morning, I walk into this coffee shop and there's a lady there. And she's like, hi. And then she says hi to my boys.
Starting point is 01:14:17 And she goes, would you like a drip? And I said, yes ma'am. And she says, great. Do you want room for cream? And she's like looking at me the whole time. Right. I said, uh, no cream, no room for cream. She hands me my cup and I said, uh, a pair of the cash. She goes, thank you so much. She's like, have a great day. And I'm like, cool. Thank you. And you know, and I leave, go into the coffee shop the next day and uh, oh, and I asked her, I said, are you the owner of this coffee shop? She said, no, I'm the manager. I said,
Starting point is 01:14:43 oh, cool. Well, great place. Thank you. I go in there the next day and the manager's at the The machine where you slide all the stuff around, you know what I mean? Like you do the Espresso drinks and shit. She's at the coffee machine. So there's a different girl at the cash register and She couldn't make eye. She never made eye contact with me she could barely get a word out of her mouth and those are the people I believe in this this one's gonna maybe throw you for a loop I believe in this statement that people who don't talk to strangers don't talk to angels and I don't know if you've ever have you ever heard that phrase if you don't talk to angels. And I don't know if you've ever have you ever heard that phrase?
Starting point is 01:15:25 If you don't talk to strangers, you'll never talk to angels. Like implying that angels are walking on the earth with us. Yeah. Gotcha. And and and and and it basically, you know, anyway, so to me, those are the people who are missing the opportunity. Those are the non-religious people to me because if you're not, your life is your religion. How you present to the world is always your religion. Like there's no
Starting point is 01:15:56 separation from, there can't be separation from religion from state because you are your walking religion. At all times you're representing the Creator. And that if you're representing the creator. And that if you're not aware, like to me that type of behavior is like, I don't know selfish maybe isn't the best word, but those are the people who aren't practicing religion, who don't treat every second.
Starting point is 01:16:20 Like you are your own storefront at all times. You're the storefront for God at all times. You are presenting God storefront at all times. You're the storefront for God at all times. You are presenting God's Spirit in all times. And so that's how she presented God's Spirit to me, right? And that to me is more of where I'm at in terms of my faith and my religion. take even though I tell you I think we go to dust and I don't believe in God I believe that you should present to the best of your ability as As if God is watching you or as it or as if as if you could have an opportunity
Starting point is 01:17:01 At any second to witness Jesus walk in the room. Like you better not be fucking around like being like, oh, no one likes me or I'm fat because like you're gonna miss it. Yeah. You're gonna miss it. And treat everyone like they are God too. Like when I was a cashier at this place,
Starting point is 01:17:21 I treated everyone like even as a 16 year old boy, I knew that. Try to treat every single person like they're like their God coming to your register. Yeah, I've heard a great I can't remember who said it, but they said like if you imagine every interaction you have is an interaction with Jesus, like everyone you talk to is Jesus in disguise. Like the way you live your life will be drastically different. Yeah. And yeah, that's, yeah, absolutely. I think every second you're out there and talking to people and interacting with people
Starting point is 01:17:51 is a chance to be the light of the world and the source of the earth. That's what we're called to be. Right. And so yeah, absolutely. I mean, those interactions are how people, I think some of the best evangelizing is done without explicitly telling people,
Starting point is 01:18:08 like, accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior. Like the way people conduct themselves, especially the people you surround yourselves with, it will make them curious. The same way you noticed who had faith at the games because they handled things differently. Same exact thing. It's like they didn't explicitly tell you about Jesus,
Starting point is 01:18:26 but you could tell by the way they conducted themselves. Right, right, absolutely. The other cool thing about that, and I just know this from personal experience, is the more you give, the more you get. You never lose anything. It's almost like when you get into those flow states of giving energy, it's like it comes in as fast
Starting point is 01:18:45 as it goes out. It's almost like overwhelming. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's no, it's not like a car where you drive it off a cliff and it's gone forever. It's like, holy shit. The more attention you give people, the more attention you get. Like not like from other people, but I mean, you, you, you cultivate to be able to give
Starting point is 01:19:01 even more energy and more attention. Yeah. Yeah. cultivate to be able to give even more energy and more attention? Yeah, yeah. I mean, I conduct myself to do those things not expecting anything in return, but I have found out the more that I walk with humility and serve others, the better my life tends to be, which is just a cool plus to already walking in the footsteps of Jesus and trying to imitate Him. It's also, it's also cool that a lot of times what goes around comes around. Hebrews 13 to keeping it real.
Starting point is 01:19:29 Hi Grant, good morning. Do not forget to show hospitality to strangers or by doing some people have shown hospitality to angels without knowing it. Oh, interesting. Yep. It is just an easier way to live life. That's the thing.
Starting point is 01:19:47 That's why I get a little bummed out when people, and it took me a long while to come to this conclusion, but when people poo poo Christianity, because you don't have to be a believer or be saved to see the tremendous value in it. Yeah. Yeah. And I think a lot of people treat it as a one-way interaction where they're like, I'm going to say the things I need to say and go to church and go to Bible study and read my Bible just so I can get into heaven. And I'm like, you're missing out on a huge part of it.
Starting point is 01:20:19 I mean, conducting your life in a way that glorifies God is awesome and rewarding and makes you feel like the joy of the spirit all the time. I mean, yeah, it's amazing. Sevan doesn't treat blue haired people very nicely. I treat blue haired people exceedingly nicely. I'll throw a blue hair in there. If I see Ty walking, if I'm holding the door open at Paper Street Coffee and I see Ty walking, he's 15 feet behind me, I'm not holding the
Starting point is 01:20:49 door open for him. Not 10 feet, yes, but a blue hair, I'll hold it open an extra 5 feet just so that maybe that they can know that Trump supporters are actually really good people. So I actually, I push back on that Dan, I would actually hold it an extra five feet to try to save their wallet. Well, Ty saving souls, I'm just trying to save people's wallets and their kids. What is this question?
Starting point is 01:21:17 Have you ever had a hand job in a park card? Oh no, sorry, that's for a different interview. Okay, you worked out in a, you trained in an affiliate. Yep. Yep. And so, so tell me about that. We have all these athletes coming in who want to be professional CrossFitters. And I keep hearing you talk about
Starting point is 01:21:36 your love of the community and the affiliate. Tell me about your first traversing of the affiliate. How old were you when you first went into an affiliate? Um, I was 14 years old. Uh, during COVID whole town kind of shut down and, uh, the gym is still open. Uh, and I go into, were they pushing back? Was the gym open illegally? No, no, we're, we're middle of nowhere in Missouri. So it's kind of like we could, the city could open as at its own pace.
Starting point is 01:22:07 And so they were like tape boxes and you're supposed to stay in your box and all this stuff, but they were open. And yeah, went in just to get better at sports and your mom and your dad weren't a member there. My dad was. Yeah. And my mom has been in the past. I can't remember if she was at the beginning or not.
Starting point is 01:22:25 Did you think it was weird for doing CrossFit? Were you like, Dad, what are you doing? Group classes are for girls. I didn't have social media, so I didn't always see the negative light CrossFit's shown in. I just knew, I've seen some of the things they do. There was the other affiliate that I never went to, but would sit while my dad did the class when I was a lot younger, called CrossFit Branson. And there were just some strong people there. And so
Starting point is 01:22:50 you see that and that's my only experience of CrossFit. It's like, these people can climb a rope, do handstand pushups, walk on their hands, lift heavyweight, like this is cool. I want to be able to do all this. So that's, that's where that started. And then I get into this affiliate during COVID and start getting better at sports and quickly build community. Everyone was so welcoming.
Starting point is 01:23:11 I was the only kid in the gym, but it was amazing. And yeah, I just loved the community of it. I loved that it was a competition every day. It was infinitely scalable. So there was never a workout I had to sit out on. And then I spent three and a half years with that affiliate. And so I grew really close with the owner
Starting point is 01:23:32 and some of the competitive athletes and even some of the class members there. And it's just a big family. And, you know, there was a season where before school I was training, I was getting there at like 430, 5 in the morning, which is not fun. But to see that 530 AM class roll in, even if they're not doing the same workout as me, it's like, there's just community. There's there everyone's Hey, how you doing?
Starting point is 01:23:54 Like, how you feeling? How's school going? All this stuff? Everyone's miserable together. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. But Go on. Yeah. And it just, you build this sense of community and I loved it. And then I had a couple guys in my gym who were on the fitter side, had some of the
Starting point is 01:24:14 skills so we would do workouts together occasionally. But for the most part, I trained alone. But it was, yeah, it was awesome. How old were you when that started happening, training alone? So when I was 15, I had Jess, who was like 35 minutes away. And then I had a guy named Cooper at our gym and then the owner, Brian. They were like, Cooper and Brian were competitive enough
Starting point is 01:24:39 at the time that we would, they could stick with me in workouts. And so they would train with me a couple of days a week week so I really wasn't training alone a whole lot that first year but after that Cooper moved away Brian's a firefighter so it was like once or twice a week he would get a train with me so most of the time I was alone 16 and 17 years old training. What's up Spotify this is Javi. I remember this one time we're on tour we didn't have any guitar picks and we didn't have time to go to the store so we placed an order on Prime and it got there the next day ready for the show. Whatever you're into, it's on Prime. would be uncomfortable around adults. You know, like we go to school and we stay with our age group the whole time. Five-year-olds, six-years-olds, seven-year-olds, eight-year-olds. When you first
Starting point is 01:25:29 went in there, was it weird? Like were you quiet? Were you like, oh I'm with old people? I luckily got like acclimated to it by starting just as classes, doing classes before I started getting competitive and spending a lot of time in there. But honestly, it was, I was taught, you know, you when you meet someone, you stand up, you take your hat off, shake their hand, call them, sir. And very quickly, it was, I mean, these guys are, you know, in their young 30s, and they're like, you don't have to call me, sir, like, let's, let's be friends. And at first, was, you know, like I was 15, so we weren't quite like friends,
Starting point is 01:26:07 but the more time you spend together, I mean, regardless of age, you learn about each other, you can have simple conversation and just very gradually, I just became very friendly with several adults. And then so the last three years, it's been some of my best friends are adults. And that definitely caused me to mature emotionally a lot quicker than I think a lot of people my age.
Starting point is 01:26:30 What do your parents do, Ty? What are your parents' vocation? My dad's in medical sales, device sales. He does heart pumps. And then my mom was a teacher for several years and has done photography on the side for a while. So your mom, um, uh, spoken in front of is good at public speaking and your dad is very personable. Yeah. Yeah. My dad is very social, can be best friends with anyone. And then my mom has crazy amounts of patients being an elementary school teacher. And then yes, can speak like very well. Cause it is, it is, it is crazy. Do you trip on your other friends when you,
Starting point is 01:27:10 so I'll tell you a quick story. My nephew came from Texas. He grew up on a ranch, a hunting ranch, big hunting ranch. Didn't see other kids, was homeschooled. He had two other brothers and all he ever saw was adults come in, you know? He was, he was strapping a gun and putting the cowboy boots and hat on at the age of five right and catching rattlesnakes and just basically running a business for a really high-end gaming ranches and
Starting point is 01:27:33 He's out in the middle of nowhere, you know, and so he comes to California He makes some friends here and they go to a bowling alley and he's like 18 years old and he sees a girl over by the drinking fountain and he goes over and talks to her and he comes back and he's his friends you know his California friends are like what the fuck did you just do he's like I just went over there and said hi to her and got her phone number they're like dude like what like that seems so like unbelievable to them, right? To have the social- That's not what y'all do in the city? Is that not how you ask a girl out in the city? I mean, that's the way they did when I was a kid, but that's not how you do it.
Starting point is 01:28:09 I mean, you don't do any talking to anyone in public in California. That's crazy talk. That is weird. So when I, first of all, is it weird for you? Do you see that cohort of yours that's just so freaking awkward and um and and just can't socialize? Yeah I mean there are definitely people who can't uh but I feel like growing up in the midwest there's a good balance. A lot of my friends you started working at 14 as early as you could yeah that helps you can tell who had a job and who didn't. They were already forced to work at
Starting point is 01:28:41 cash register and interact with people coming in or work at McDonald's or whatever and like deal with people. Yeah, absolutely. But yeah, I mean, you definitely see some of that or especially when it comes to dating or whatever, it's like people would rather text each other than talk in person or they slide into DMs instead of asking someone to their face. But yeah, you see a little bit of that. It's like half and half. So about, I say about half the kids my age, by the time we graduated high school,
Starting point is 01:29:09 had good social skills. And then there was half, you could tell did not. Cause I, so I don't remember what games it was, but it was, it was some prospect games was in Madison. And I think, uh, we were, we were on the outside field or something and you were coming off the field and I had my camera there and I coming off the field and I had my camera there and I started chatting with you and I couldn't believe how good you talked. I'm like, this dude talks. Oh, it was nuts because you talk better than 90% of the adult games athletes.
Starting point is 01:29:44 But it makes sense with your mom being a school teacher and your dad and the fact that like you're saying you didn't even have social media at 14. So you were left to fend with the real world. You couldn't look down at your phone. So it all comports man life's going to be so much easier for you. That is a skill that is I don't think if you have it when you're young, it's one you have to fake in your adulthood and it just causes so much stress I think for people. Like you want that one, it's like swimming. You want that to be natural for you. You want someone to be able to like pick you up
Starting point is 01:30:18 from your bed and throw you in a pool while you're sleeping and you don't drown, right? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, It's crazy. Your parents did a great job. How old were you when you got your first phone? It was junior high, so 13 or 14. And it was because my older brother played football for the high school and I played football for the junior high. And so like, between rides and stuff, it was just they needed to communicate with us because, you know, practice could get over anywhere from five to six
Starting point is 01:30:52 thirty. And then Carter's games, my other brother, he would have games, you know, either Monday night or Friday night. And then his practices would get over around the same time. So my mom didn't know what order to pick us up. And it was for communication. And it was a while before I got social media on it. It was just for like text and, you know, play some mobile games, stuff like that. Did you ask her if you could get it? And she just said no. I don't remember exactly. I know I asked for social media once I had a phone and got turned down for that. But I think the phone, it was like an understanding that we wouldn't get it until freshman year. And then I got mine a little early because just we were all so busy and all over the place that I had to for communication.
Starting point is 01:31:36 Was that late for you? Did most by the time you got your phone, did most of your friends have phones? Yeah, yeah, for sure. And did that bother you at all? Um, I mean a little bit, but I'm glad now looking back that I didn't get one at 10 years old, but it was always like, you're, you're in sixth grade or I mean, it's ridiculous, like fifth or sixth grade and you know, someone's after school, they're pulling out their phone and we're all like, that's yours. You get, you have a phone. You can play video games wherever you're at,
Starting point is 01:32:05 like just dumb stuff like that. But I really never felt like in the dark. We all still hung out enough in person that I wasn't ever having fear of missing anything because they could text each other at night and I couldn't. And I saw him at practice every day. That was enough for me. Yeah. And I saw him at practice every day. That was enough for me. Yeah. There's this interesting phenomenon with Dallin because he's been with Torres so long and it feels like a lot of athletes
Starting point is 01:32:37 move around a lot, right? From camps to camps or trainers to trainers. And not that the, I don't have an opinion either way, whether that's a good thing or bad thing, people, you know, are just striving to get better. Do you think about that? Do you ever think, oh, I'd like to just stay once I find a home, I'd like to have my career there, like to do 10 years there. Do you have any like, you know, I guess, fantasies or lots of Cinderella stories of like how you like your career to go? Yeah, I mean, eventually I'd like to be at the point where I'm good enough. I could pick a place that I want to live, like preferably the Midwest. I love the Midwest. And then
Starting point is 01:33:17 someone high level would be willing to come to me and train where I want to plant a family and have kids and train and build a gym. But you know, money is going to be one of the biggest factors with that. Like I'm learning Jacksonville is expensive. And then I was in Miami this weekend. And I'm like, I'm glad I don't live in Miami. And so I think eventually, I'd like to settle somewhere in the Midwest, plant, buy a house, wife and kids, train full-time, and people come to me and then work with, I think just seeing how the best do it, the best always end up programming for themselves. Matt and Rich both got to the point where they program for themselves, but I wouldn't say I'm not gonna have a coach
Starting point is 01:34:03 when I'm older either. I think it, like right now I need it just because I wouldn't say I'm not going to have a coach when I'm older either. I think it, like right now I need it just because I don't know enough about programming. But you know, my relationship with Jaden or whoever it ends up being develops enough to where it's like, I'm going to write this, but I want you to look at it and give your seal of approval. I think that's the best because the athletes know their body's the best. The coaches are phenomenal, but ultimately they can't feel what you're feeling and know. Have you taken your level one?
Starting point is 01:34:30 I have. Yeah. Where did you do that? Springfield, it's like a 45 hour drive from Branson. And why did you do that? I did it because I got the one of the semi finals years, they gave me a free level one and you know, I'd liked our affiliate and I'd liked the part of CrossFit that's done in the affiliates. And so I was like, well, I didn't know if I wanted to pay $1,000 for
Starting point is 01:35:00 it. But if it was free, I was absolutely going to do it. Um, and I loved it. It was a great weekend. Learn a lot. Yeah, absolutely. Like I think everyone should take the level one that has aspirations to coach or be a competitive athlete. I think they should. Did your parents go with you? No, no.
Starting point is 01:35:17 They should give a, they should. How old were you when you took it? Uh, I think I had to wait till I was 18 to take it in person. So I did it when I was 18. And how old are you now? 19. 19. Crazy. Did you have a girlfriend?
Starting point is 01:35:32 I did not, no. But you do want to have a wife and kid someday? Yeah. Yeah. How do you know that already? That's crazy that you already know that. I mean, just relative to my own Like where I was at when I was 19
Starting point is 01:35:48 Yeah, I mean I did not want to have a wife and kids when I was 19. I Mean, I know I don't want to have one right now Whenever Yeah, but the great it's the greatest thing that ever happened to me. My life's never been better and it's, it's all in, in, because I have a wife and kids. Uh, so I think, you know, in my affiliate, I grew up with people who had, who were all married. Um, and now have kids, a lot of them do. And just seeing, they all say the same exact thing. They're like,
Starting point is 01:36:19 and having a wife and kids is one of the best things that's ever happened to me. And so that growing up with that and that definitely made me want to have a wife and kids. Yeah. It's kids are the best thing ever. And I guess you got to see also, it sounds like you have great parents and you got to see how much fun your parents had raising their kids.
Starting point is 01:36:39 Yeah, yeah. Dude, your dad must be so excited. What's your dad like at the games? Is he losing his shit? He's all over the place. He loves it, but he does a really good job where it's like the years that he was my chaperone for the teenage divisions. He would be like, oh my goodness, that was Tia or that was Velner, but he would never
Starting point is 01:37:03 go like, I would never lose him. Heia or that was Velner, but he would never go like, like I would never lose them. He'd never be over there talking to him. Like he was there for me, which I really appreciated. But at the same time, he's like looking around and he's like, Oh my goodness, everyone's here. And so yeah, he loved it. He loved being back there. Do you remember any words he said to you, did when you won the games the first time or when you in the games, does he cry? Do him and your mom cry? Uh, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:37:29 The, those whole weeks are just such blurs. I mean, by the last day you're just miserable and I mean, happy and excited and tired and just want to sleep for 12 hours. So I don't really remember much of the day of, um, winning it, but I mean, they've, they've always been super supportive but Yeah, that I don't remember much they have God it's gonna be a trip when you have kids You're gonna be like how did my dad go through this because it must be so intense to watch your kid do the crossFit games It must be like I mean, it's great. It's so awesome that you get to see maderas's parents in the front row or uh,
Starting point is 01:38:04 James sprague's parents in the front row or James Sprague's parents in the front row. Cause they're just coming like you can just look at them and it's like they look like they're watching the world's saddest movie. Do you know what I mean? Like they're like, yeah, they're on a roller coaster. It's crazy. And, uh, but, and as a parent, I can totally empathize with it.
Starting point is 01:38:22 I'm like, God, this must be insane watching your kid out here do this. Yeah. Yeah. And for me, like it, my kids, I'm not going to force them into CrossFit. Uh, I definitely think there's an age that's too early to get into it. Uh, cause you know, any sort of back injury when you're not done growing can cause serious issues. Um, but just like other sports, I'm going to introduce it to them.
Starting point is 01:38:43 Uh, and while they're young and before, you know, I think they have the choice to choose. I want them to do swimming, combat sport, team sport, gymnastics. But whatever their passion is, I want them to chase it. Like me and my brothers all had different sports that we wanted to lean into. I'm sure my dad wanted all three of us to be pro baseball players, but lean into. I'm sure my dad wanted all three of us to be pro baseball players, but, um, we found our own passions and, um, that's like, I think what my dad likes watching the most is us genuinely love what we do. Uh, and so it's going to be the same for my kids. Like,
Starting point is 01:39:15 I'll introduce them to CrossFit, but if they'd rather pursue swimming and, and do that, then I'm all for it. I'll be in their corner, whatever they choose to do. Uh, you said it so well. And you know what, by the time you're a parent, you're going to know how to incorporate it in so much without them even knowing. Like my kids don't even know that I'm incorporating it in. Do you know what I mean? I'll be like, all right, run out and catch this frisbee. And as soon as you catch it, do five burpees. You know what I mean? Or you know what I mean? Like, um, I'll purposely just leave like a 15 pound bar out while I'm doing deadlifts
Starting point is 01:39:49 You know like with the five pound bar with those big red and they'll come out there and they'll lift it But I know it you know what I mean just so they can mimic the movements you can just trick them into Anything without them knowing that they're doing crossfit, you know what I mean? without them knowing that they're doing a CrossFit. You know what I mean? You can kind of incorporate it. Okay, let's see how many baseballs we can throw in 10 seconds and then rest 10 seconds. You know, I think it'd be probably me having to slow them down more than anything just because you look across the space and like, I spent some time out in Vegas and like Kotler's daughter, he like watches Alex or she watches Alex and just wants to do everything
Starting point is 01:40:25 Alex is doing and wants to load up a bar and wants to do gymnastics and like, um, so, you know, the, the goal would be that they just love it. And whenever they're ready to, to flip the switch and get into it full time, that they're just so passionate and want to, but if, if CrossFit's not their thing, then I'm not going to force them into it. I think that's how a lot of people get burnt out stuff. It's like they're not loving it, but their parents are shoving it down their throat and they got to do, do it for so long. And I just like find something you love. Hey, do you have time to court girls or do you just live your life and God will
Starting point is 01:41:01 put one on your path? Like I had this super high level jujitsu guy on one time and he says hey, he had a little more bravado but he was like hey alphas don't chase girls and he'd had a girlfriend for 12 years because I never chase a girl. I just do me and the girls come to me. Do you have time to court or is it just like hey you're living your life and what comes along on the path is predestined? I mean for now it's it's more between school work and training it's like there's no free time but I think at some point you have to flip that switch and pursue um especially in like a godly marriage because that's what we're called to do is pursue one another. So I don't think you can just walk your line and hope they follow you and stay on your path
Starting point is 01:41:49 and be selfish and never make an effort towards them and expect to get married and have kids and be happy. But for now, I'm not seeking out girls. As far as I know, I won't be in Jacksonville my whole life. And so it doesn't make sense for me to try to find a girlfriend here if I'm leaving you know. Right. Careful it's when you're not looking that it happens. It's like crossing the street not looking both ways. You're gonna hit by a car. What do you mean you're going to school?
Starting point is 01:42:21 Yeah so I'm studying online right now. Holy cow. Why dude? Why? Wait, wait, but it's a blood ACL could never be across it again. What are you studying? Mechanical engineering. Oh my goodness. We're two.
Starting point is 01:42:37 I'm not taking any engineering classes yet. It's too early. It's my second semester. So are you stressed? It's a lot. Like this weekend, instead of going to dinner after water pelusa, I had five assignments due at 1am so I just had to go sit in my room and eat a pizza and do homework. That was my celebration. So but…
Starting point is 01:42:59 Overachievers are going to overachieve. People make it work. Farlo makes it work. He works his butt off. So. I really, I really, I really like I really like you, dude. I know I loved you when I first saw you. You're a great dude.
Starting point is 01:43:16 I love that. It's your your whole path, your parents, your your god, dude. You're such a great example. I learned a lot from talking to you today. You also affirmed a lot of things about raising my own kids. Yeah, anytime. Tell Dallin and Fi I said hi, tell Torres I said hi. I love those guys. They've always been great to me.
Starting point is 01:43:41 And we'll be watching dude. Great job. Great head on your shoulders. Tell your mom and dad, thank you for making a good son. You're going to make a great husband. Yeah, dude. What a cool... the CrossFit community is lucky to have you, man. You're the full package, brother. Thank you so much. That means a lot. All right. Have a great day.
Starting point is 01:44:01 See you. Thanks for having me on. All right. Ciao. Ty Jenkins. Damn. Alright, have a great day. See ya, thanks for having me on. Alright, ciao. Ty Jenkins. Damn. His dad's in the chat, you've been ignoring him. Why do I have to be actively ignoring him? I didn't even see his dad in the chat. How the fuck would I know his dad's in the chat?
Starting point is 01:44:27 I got in one Seve podcast line. Oh, Ty Leroy Jenkins. Oh, his dad's a black guy. I forgot, didn't even think of that. Because his chat makes the show. Listen, I'm trying to listen to the kid talk. He's saying good shit. I don't want to miss anything. Everything he's got to get. There's layers to this kid. Layers. I got in one funny line. I would see, I probably wouldn't have said it if I would
Starting point is 01:44:54 have known his dad was in the chat. So it's good. 10 out of 10. Yeah, of course. They're all 10 out of 10s. Maybe 10 out of 10. Oh, John Jenkins. Hello, Mr. Jenkins. Good to see you, buddy. Great kid. Good job, dude. What a beast. All right. I don't want to go yet, but I need coffee. Oh, do we have coffee? I look for... I don't want to heat hot water up in that.
Starting point is 01:45:21 I look for something to heat hot water up in and all I saw was stuff with oh, oh Yeah, I'll have one of those I don't do Teflon anymore ever If we go somewhere and there's only Teflon steaks, there's only Teflon pant. I Know you don't but I'm just saying I was gonna heat water up There's only a Teflon bowl and there's no help. There's no way i'm doing that. I'm i'm Save what little life I have left. Oh lowers testosterone. God. That's the last thing I need
Starting point is 01:45:54 Uh, man if my daughter, uh turns out as well as behaved as level-headed as ty I consider myself less dude The kid has crazy presence. I'm telling you I remember meeting him at the games and just being like what is this creature? What is this? Where did this come from? He's a stud I'd like to meet his brothers. I'd like to meet his whole family It makes sense though, right mom is a school teacher dad's a salesman Born with the bible between his ears and what what, what, what, what? He only had two choices. Become a leader of a cartel or, I saw that.
Starting point is 01:46:32 Become a leader of a cartel or become a vessel for the Lord. I'm watching my wife try to work the Keurig machines. Awesome. It's not easy. They don't make it easy I know but even how that water hangs on the side. It's it's a joke like they should just make it easier And all the pieces are falling off the trays always falling off the bottom. You know, that's not a cheap machine, too
Starting point is 01:47:11 Oh darn it, I should have told Ty, I should have, I should have messed with Ty a little bit and asked him why he never, why he never calls in to kill Taylor. What's wrong with him? Worrying about Teflon and using the cure egg is insane. I know, right? There's probably crazy, I'm afraid to look at the chemicals in that thing. Yeah, Haley won't even drink the Keurig, she walks to the coffee shop. You get up early, I'm a working man. I drink Paper Street, I'm telling you you it's not nearly as good as paper street
Starting point is 01:47:45 And I wish I had paper street, but the paper street I bought I ran out of Drinking too much the last minute What do you want me to do? I had a c4 to every time I have a c4 I hear Gabe's voice drink coffee instead Yeah, I got in one good line I asked me if you got ever got a handy in the back of a car I kind of slipped that in. I didn't even I should have I didn't even I was too busy multitasking. I should have looked at his face to see if you remember. Hello.
Starting point is 01:48:20 Hello. What's up, man? Oh, hey, what's up, dude? Oh shit. Am I in trouble? I'm like the only person that could be talking about me at this time right now. Say that again. My ears were ringing and I figured there was only one person on earth that could be talking about paper street coffee. Yes.
Starting point is 01:48:48 Yes. Uh, uh, vindicate was, uh, ass pounding me because I had a cure egg this morning. That's okay. It kind of, you, you need the cure to, to appreciate the paper streets. You have to walk with the devil a little bit to appreciate God. That's exactly what we do. I just got back from Miami yesterday. Oh, how was that? Hold on one second. Give me one second. Will you hold on just for 20 seconds? Okay. And then I just have to get up and do something. I just have to move something. Let the world watch me and Caleb for a second. I should have asked Ty Jenkins if he drinks coffee. Does he drink coffee?
Starting point is 01:49:51 Did you see him at the booth? No, I did not see him. He's really hard to miss, but no, I did not see him at the booth. He always looks a little different. Sometimes his head gets huge. Have you ever noticed like in some of the photos, he looks like a caricature of himself? Like when he's working out, he gets massive.
Starting point is 01:50:10 But today he must've not worked out yet. He was just a regular man. He's like one of those guys. I mean, it's one of those things where he's still growing, so his body's trying to figure himself out now. Yeah, his body's insane too. I probably watched like two hours of Tai-Jenkin shit last night at two times speed. His body's crazy.
Starting point is 01:50:31 He gives me body dysmorphia. He was a really good listener. The conversation was really good. Really, really flowing for someone who is so young. Oh my God, dude. He's a kid. Yeah. And he chopped it up solid. so young. Oh my God, dude. He's a kid. Yeah. And he chopped it up. Even, even Travis texted me separately saying, Hey man, it's Ty Jenkins. Guy's a cool dude.
Starting point is 01:50:54 Hey, tell me, tell me some crazy shit about water. Palooza. Like you went through 800 cups or someone knocked over the coffee maker and eight gallons of coffee spilt or, or you dropped your kid once or what? Tell me some shit. What happened? We went through 5,000 cups that we sell. Not to take into, not to count, not counting all the volunteer cups that we,
Starting point is 01:51:19 that we, we donate. We do all the coffee for the volunteers. 5,000 cups. Yep. that we we donate we do all the coffee for the volunteers five thousand cups yep that's a lot of cups yeah how do you bring that many cups there you don't you have to you hope and pray that there's a restaurant supply store anywhere near you when you buy five thousand cups does that clean the supply store out? Like do you buy them all? Uh, in my, yeah, some places. Yeah. For instance, in Miami, I had to go back twice for cups and it's Miami. So a bunch of restaurants and they didn't restock. So it was, it was
Starting point is 01:51:59 tough getting the last few, uh, few supplies. Did you bring enough coffee? Did you bring enough coffee? Just about we just, we had to start using the bags that we were going to sell. Oh, awesome. To, uh, to start filling all the coffee beans and everything. It was, it's always awesome seeing you guys have everyone basically just supports us and just always blows it out of the water.
Starting point is 01:52:27 I always prepped for what I think is just enough and it's almost never enough because of the fact that all of you people in the chat and just out there that hear you just come and support and I appreciate it. Like beyond belief. It was so cool. There's, there was another coffee company, maybe three vendor spots down that. You know, I walk in at four 34, 45 in the morning, every single day. They weren't open until eight. Ooh.
Starting point is 01:52:59 So, um, and our line was far longer. There were other options. Let me ask you this was the owner stayed our line was far longer. There were other options. Let me ask you this was the owner. Staying in line for a while. Was the owner of that coffee shop, the one running their booth? I don't know. I can't imagine going to Wadapalooza and not getting to your booth at five or five 30 AM.
Starting point is 01:53:22 That sounds crazy not to do that. Cause people want coffee. I mean, people want coffee, I mean, people want coffee and then people are gonna, like if I find a cup of coffee at six, I'm gonna walk away from your booth, right? And then somewhere I'm gonna see someone else and they're gonna be like, where did you get that?
Starting point is 01:53:35 And then they're gonna tell two people and they're gonna tell four people. And you might only sell three cups between six and 6.30, but by seven, you got a line around the corner, right? Yeah, but here's the thing. So we give free volunteer coffee to everyone that volunteers there in Miami. So they come in at five thirty. So I have to come in and get everything ready. Here's the thing. People come in early. So people started rolling up at around five. So I had to get there early. I had to make sure people had coffee, especially the days that it was cold. And hey, if I'm there
Starting point is 01:54:12 and I see a security guard that's been there pretty much all night, like, Hey, man, here's a cup of coffee. And then what happens is you get pulled with them. And then you don't need to see. Luckily, we have all access passes where we can go anywhere, but we don't abuse that. But once you give coffee to the security guards and you bring them holy balls, sent us a bunch of holy balls, so I gave them a few, we sold out of those two by the way. They'll let you go in anywhere without checking your bracelet. My kid walked in, no issue, nothing just grandma and kid just walked in without a wristband.
Starting point is 01:54:49 We had a wristband for them, but let me ask you a couple of questions. Okay. Okay. So, so at the games you, your booth can only sell one item. They, they, you know, they have that rule. They don't have that rule at water Palooza. So you were able to sell Holy balls there. No, the rule at Wadapalooza, so you were able to sell holy balls there? No, the rule at Wad at the games is you are not allowed to
Starting point is 01:55:09 compete with the vendor of food wherever they are. But I also thought like I thought like you can't sell my t-shirts at your booth, right? Like if you pay for a booth, multiple people can't go in on a booth. Isn't that the rule at the games? That is the rule. For instance, right? Let's just say hypothetically speaking, not saying that I ever did that. I've never taken peptides either or CJC 1295 to compete in the open. I have purchased a booth, hypothetically, a 20 by 10 space at the games, which is very expensive.
Starting point is 01:55:49 And since I don't do merchandising, I don't do shirts, I have a friend who does shirts. We have a friend that does shirts. I invited him, hey, would you be so kind to sell my shirts there at the games and then bring whatever else you want because you're the man, you're, you're basically paper street coffee. You're going to be working for paper street coffee. And if we sell CEO shirts, they're paper street CEO shirts. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:19 Okay. No one knows that I don't help or I don't fund this particular company. No one knows that they don't need to know that. I would just I want to get a booth at the games. I remember and I wanted to I wanted to sell like paper street coffee. Oh, I got an echo paper street coffee, Matuthian peptides. Like I wanted it to sell like all the things that like my sponsors do to support me. And I remember it was like, Hey, you can't do that or some shit.
Starting point is 01:56:48 I was like, well, maybe, maybe if they were all products, maybe if they all said the seven podcasts on it, it was like a seven podcast blend of coffee. I wonder if I could, there's some loophole. It would just be cool to have a, my own grift, my own booth for grifting all my shit, all my, my, is that a word grifting? It is the word. And I, I mean, you could do it. Here's the thing you asked for forgiveness. You never asked for permission.
Starting point is 01:57:10 Right. And like in the, in the grand scheme of things, when the events are going off, no one's going to come and say, Oh, you aren't doing, you know, you're doing what you're not supposed to be doing. It's. It's something as easy as like, yeah, no, okay, I'm gonna sell my toothy. And let's say hypothetically,
Starting point is 01:57:29 I'm not allowed to sell my toothy. I'll just go to them like, yeah, but I own a part of the brand. Like I'm gonna sell it. What are they gonna do? Go check legal documents to make sure that I own a piece of my toothy. Oh yeah, I like that.
Starting point is 01:57:41 So why lie? Selling peptides at the games would be hilarious. I want to do it. I tried. I tried talking to Sarah about doing IVs there at the at Wata Palooza. God, that would be awesome, wouldn't it? 1000% it becomes a little iffy because athletes are not allowed to take like rehydration IVs. So then it becomes one of those thinking situations, but just regular people just imagining you're there all day and you just need a rehydration IV.
Starting point is 01:58:18 You're just there spectating from morning to night. Go and pay 150 bucks and get IV. I've gone to competitions where they have had those and I get IVs. That's interesting that rehydration IV thing. I wonder if you could be like, hey, getting an IV for vitamin C or whatever the hell you're doing and then you just happen to also, if that's a loophole for a rehydration IV, you just happen to also if that's a loophole for a rehydration Ivy you just don't rehydrate. I don't I'm not quite sure what are they using that? They use drug free sport, right? I think it's one of those drug free sports policies that none of that unless they
Starting point is 01:59:01 Strictly give you permission to do something like that They strictly give you permission to do something like that I'm just not quite sure obviously I'm not an athlete. I have no idea what the heck goes on But uh, but yeah, the event was amazing it was huge in person I'm not sure how it was on the live stream I've heard but in person Wow, did they kill it? Oh, Dylan killed it, huh? Good on him. He sent me some pictures and video and it looked like it was packed. It was the busiest I've ever seen any type of event.
Starting point is 01:59:37 And the weather was absolute garbage, right? Depends who you ask. For coffee, it was not absolute garbage. For me. That's good. the everyone in the chat, even the people I don't like. I appreciate everything you guys do, even if it's talk crap about Paper Free Coffee, because you're getting the name out there. You guys have killed it. And all I can do is I can try my best
Starting point is 02:00:15 to meet your expectations of what we do here. Also with that being said, I forgot, you played the fucking thing. We cans are back, should be back on the website any second. I, we haven't had cancer. You guys all cleared me out last year for December. So can't should be back up on the, on the website. Yeah, that's awesome.
Starting point is 02:00:33 So it's cold and people want to warm cup of coffee in their hands. Yeah. It's like I said, that first day, I don't understand why no other of the other two coffee companies didn't just open early. Didn't just go and just open up and just sell an overpriced cup of coffee. It's just people would buy that. It's just because the owners I guarantee you it's because the owners weren't there.
Starting point is 02:00:58 There's when the owners aren't there like that shit happens. But there's no there's no right. There's no way I can't fathom me not going there even even if I brought six people to work, which I did There's no what I wouldn't be there and I wouldn't Tell my team hey guys you guys are opening at this time But yeah, I'll be I mean I I worked my ass off I I know a bunch of people saw me walking around and running around from, you know, we had three different areas where we had
Starting point is 02:01:30 to supply coffee for technically. And we were just running back and forth bringing water, bringing coffee, bringing milk, going to pick up stuff from restaurant depot and stuff like that. It was awesome. I'm excited so much more for SoCal now and the in-person experience is crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy. Definitely make it out to either one. Haley, I'm going to lunch at Ark at two. Sorry. Not even good, man. That's it. All right. Well, I'm glad any other stories.
Starting point is 02:02:05 Did you drop the kid at all? Did um, Dude, I told Travis since Travis is single, bro, if Travis came, oh man. Oh, he would have, I would have been like, here, Travis, take the baby for a walk. We'll just rack up numbers. Oh yeah. That kid in just a chick magnet. Well noted babies are chick magnets
Starting point is 02:02:28 And I'll talk to you hey if you need a if you need a little sponsor for kill Taylor this weekend, you know Okay, we thank you. I know you're so good. You text me right away last week with this week. We have some nutrition We got someone isn't it crazy that this thing just keeps chugging along this kill Taylor? What do you mean? Of course. No, I expected it to go the way that it's going. Everyone wants to do it. Yeah, it's nuts. And you know, you know, it's cool is there are there are we are in talks
Starting point is 02:03:02 with sponsors who want to give $1 thousand dollars a week for a year and $2,000 a week for the year and what's crazy about that is people like you you'll still be part of the show Regardless if you sponsor or not just because you've always been here for us and you've you know Supported me and my family for you know since day one, but it's just crazy I think the show if we get $2,000 a week Is gonna be nuts. And it looks like Taylor's cracked the code on how not to be beat.
Starting point is 02:03:30 I mean, knock on wood. What, just program shit that Colton can't do? Yeah, exactly. For the 48 inch box. Seve, can you, the same person win kill Taylor twice or once you win, that's the only chance you get dude. Oh What do you mean? I don't understand the question but fucking Colton's won like five times You can win as many times as you want
Starting point is 02:03:56 But we'll start programming around we'll start programming around your ass note. Oh listen to this Andrew. Hiller No, Taylor has not cracked that code damn We got I got some other things I need to speak to you but off No, oh listen to this Andrew Hiller. No Taylor has not cracked that code damn We got I got some other things I need to speak to you but off off off air about all right bitchin I'll help me the wrong way there. All right, I'll get Miami. Okay, good. I'd love to hear that I love getting rubbed the wrong way. I Got that appreciate you. All right, I'll talk to you later. Thank you for calling Gabe. Gabe, Baber Street Coffee. Paying the bills at my house, one cup of coffee at a time. That's nice.
Starting point is 02:04:38 All right. Ask Gabe about how much he loves his neighbors at Wadapalooza. Oh, they have some douches next to him. That sucks if you don't get along with the booth next to you. It's Kevin Walters. Kevin, Ken Walters. It's great because Taylor's dedicated to Never Miss. He's done it at Greg's on his honeymoon in Italy while in Airbnb in semis in Tennessee.
Starting point is 02:05:02 Yeah, it's awesome, isn't it? Step on play the role video, please. I saw something I wanted to... What is this? I have a feeling this is really going to piss me off. About to see. I'm about to see. Okay, let's see. This is really going to piss me out. I think Marvel movies are stupid anyway. Let me start with that.
Starting point is 02:05:37 The vast majority of them are just horrible. What is this? For me, Captain America represents a lot of different things. And I don't think the term, you know, America should be one of those. For me, Captain America. He's talking like he doesn't want us. Captain America doesn't represent America. Did this guy really say that? Please tell me this is out of context.
Starting point is 02:06:10 Is this the new Captain America? I didn't know Captain America was white. Guess doesn't matter anymore. Bye, have fun. Are you going by yourself? Okay, you have your phone? Okay, I love you. My head looks so round now that I shaved my beard. I just looked in the camera for the first time and I'm like, oh, my head looks like
Starting point is 02:06:42 a bowling ball now. I have a perfect head if round is good. There's different than giving perfect head. Let me see what, stop. For me, Captain America represents a lot of different things and I don't think the term, you know America should be one of those represent for me Captain America. I'm gonna have to Google that What's that guy's name?
Starting point is 02:07:14 What's that guy's name? What's this guy's name? He's Captain America Captain America is not American Captain America is not American. That was another thing. Anthony McKenzie, the actor who plays Captain America, has said that he doesn't think the character should represent the United States. I think he should. Captain America is about a person who is trustworthy,
Starting point is 02:07:44 dependable, honor, integrity, and dignity. And represents the United States. It's probably a stupid movie anyway. All right. What do you guys want to do? What games do you want to play? No. Not you guys.
Starting point is 02:08:09 You guys want to see Selena Gomez? Not you. Yesterday alone they deported a thousand people. I was going through the list of the people they deported. It's crazy. Some of the it's oh, your legs are sore. Yeah, that was that you did 55 pistols yesterday. What arm work? Oh, and you did snatches with the 25 pound dumbbell.
Starting point is 02:08:44 Yeah. How's your lower back? Oh, yeah. And your traps, that's from doing this. Yeah, that's good. Your boss. Good job, dude. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy. If you look at the the the profiles of the people that people that they've been deporting. It is nuts. Listen, if you're an illegal alien and you're hanging out with a dude who has 18 counts and one of them's rape and one of them's murder, you're going to. You're going too. This is nuts. By the way, this chick is worth over $1 billion.
Starting point is 02:09:32 Skincare entrepreneur Selena Gomez, she's very upset. Just want to say that I'm so sorry. All my people are getting attacked. The children. Why don't one of her friends explain to her what's happening? I kind of feel sorry for her that she's so confused. Why doesn't someone explain to her what happened? You dropped off 30,000 Haitians in a town that has a population of 20,000.
Starting point is 02:10:07 I don't understand. I'm so sorry. I wish I could do something, but I can't. Does she know something we don't know? I don't know what to do. I'll try everything I promise. Well, she's really crying there. Well, she tried until the fierce online backlash, and then Gomez deleted that insipid, weepy post.
Starting point is 02:10:40 She deleted that? Notice she said my people are getting attacked. What my people? Is she an illegal alien committing crimes? That's not, those aren't her people. Now, given that she's worth an estimated $1.3 billion, good for her. According to Bloomberg, I imagine Selena Gomez could establish homes for migrants in their home countries. Or why not just go down to a fucked up part of Cincinnati or Baltimore and buy 500 homes at $10,000 each? What would that be? 500 times $10,000 each? That would be 100. That's a
Starting point is 02:11:24 million dollars. And then be a hundred, that's a million dollars. And then start a little community there for them. Give them jobs and shit. She was clearly high as a kite. You think that's drugs? You think she was on drugs? Something happened to her face. Her face got fucked up.
Starting point is 02:11:47 I love this song. Selena Gomez. Love song. I love this song though. God, this is a great song. This song is so great. Didn't Bieber used to put it to her? I really, really like this song. It's been said and done, every beautiful thought's been already sung And I guess right now here's another one So your melody will play on and on With the best of all, you are beautiful Like a dream come alive incredible
Starting point is 02:12:48 Sinful miracle You saved my life again I love you like a love song baby I love you like a love song baby And I keep hitting repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat I love you like a love song baby I love you like a love song baby I love you like a love song baby And I keep hitting repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat baby I love you like a love song baby and I keep itin' rippy, peep, peep, peep, peep, peep
Starting point is 02:13:29 Cause for me, boy you play through my mind like a symphony There's no way to describe what you do to me You just do to me what you do And it feels like I've been rescued I've been set free I am hypnotized by your destiny you a magical lyrical beautiful you are and I want you to know baby I love you like a love song baby I love you like a love song baby I love you like a love song baby And I keep it in my beep beep beep beep beep
Starting point is 02:14:19 I love you like a love song baby I love you like a love song baby I love you like a love song baby I love you like a love song baby I love you like a love song baby I love you like a love song baby I love you like a love song baby I love you like a love song No one can compare No one can compare
Starting point is 02:14:38 You stand alone To every record I own Music to my heart That's what you want Baby To every record I own I love you like a love song baby Love a love song Like a love song Listen, this is uh, this is Ty Jenkins favorite song too. What do you think about that? Yeah, I can't I can't not sing it's catchy shit Beep beep beep beep beep
Starting point is 02:15:30 Thank you, Miss Lena Gomez. Now someone explain to her nothing bad's happening unless you want kitties and you get raped and shit to get robbed and Basic music for basic brains. I'll take it like to wake up every morning to love song and uh, coffee. Yeah. I feel like having some butt sex right now. Uh, vindicate's favorite song. You lost 500 subs. How could you not like that song? song. You lost 5x subs.
Starting point is 02:16:07 How could you not like that song? That song is amazing. Come on guys. So she's confused and some people got booted. Let us teach her the ways. What's wrong with going back to your country? I've been to Central America. every tree there is producing fruit. It's crazy.
Starting point is 02:16:28 There's fruit everywhere. Crazy avocados, mangoes, just shit just pouring off of trees. Passion fruit. It's nuts. Shit all year round. Bananas, bananas. Chickens everywhere. chickens everywhere the good life Come in the million and a half you can come in every year just that the use use the right door. I use the wrong door
Starting point is 02:16:58 AOC is concerned the prices of coffee are gonna go up. Can you imagine you're sending are going to go up. Can you imagine? You're sending rapists and murderers and pedophiles who broke into this country illegally, took opportunities away from other people, and your response is, but now the price of coffee is going to go up if we treat them like shit. You're going to do all right. Uh, Selena Gomez. All right. That's her. Hey, listen, this is fair and balanced news here.
Starting point is 02:17:39 So she's a little sad because she's confused about what's happening and. You know, because she's confused about what's happening and you know on the other hand she makes great music and she's a billionaire Bieber used to put it to her the de-doer Tati Lang you're up You're the worst I've talked to a lot of J-6ers and I don't think anyone's had to go through what you've gone through you've been transferred to about 30 to 40 different prisons. Transferred to 40 different prisons, Patty?
Starting point is 02:18:12 All around the country. Supposed to keep you within a certain radius from your home. They violated that. That was President Trump's first term policy that he was able to push through. There was also solitary. This chick's boobs. There's no way these boobs are real. Who is this? I'm going to Google her. Enrique Torrio. Let me see what's going on here. Hold on. Let's take a break here. Hold on.
Starting point is 02:18:36 What the fuck's going on with this chick? Enrique Torrio. Oh no, that's the J. American seed and seed seditionist and far right activist from 2018 to 2012. That's his name. Where's this? What's this chick's name? That sucks. We don't know her name. What's her name? Does anyone know her name? I want to Google her and type in the word swimsuit next to it or nude This this rack is crazy
Starting point is 02:19:16 Anyway, he was put in solitary confinement or confinement which was used as a weapon against you at this point Solitary confinement is 24 every three days you get let out for 15 minutes to take a shower. That's supposed to be the rule. There was this moment in Petersburg, Virginia, where I went three weeks with no soap, no shower, no toothpaste, no toothbrush, no deodorant. I looked and smelled like an ape. The transit, it's called diesel therapy.
Starting point is 02:19:43 And what they do is they keep you in transit. So you won't be in one place comfortably as punishment. It's probably like the worst punishment because you don't get to get comfortable. The most insidious thing about this whole thing. And I hate it. I hate it is how easy someone gets used to it is kick back and relax. I remember my last experience that happened like two, three months ago. I was back in the DC Gulag. They had to transfer me over to Pollock, Louisiana. They had to bring me to Kentucky. It's a 14 hour drive from DC to Raceland County, Kentucky. And it's the first time in a long time that I was able to be with J6ers. So they filled the bus with J6ers. They're hailed as heroes in the prison system. Yeah. You know, I'm in the bus and we're in box cuffs.
Starting point is 02:20:26 And if you don't know what box cuffs are, I suggest you guys Google it. It looks like a torture device. It's literally a pair of handcuffs that has a box over it. So it keeps, it keeps your pants locked in a certain position. You can't turn your wrist, you can't bring them together. And on top of that, you have a leather belt on and they're placed like this. So you can't, if my nose itches, which is what did he say? What was, what should we Google box cuffs? Box cuffs. Oh man.
Starting point is 02:21:03 Wow. Those are brutal looking. High security boxcuffs. This is what he was wearing. He's wearing these things. God, can you imagine someone who ever invented invented those got so rich? I wonder if I can order those on Amazon. I high security transport. I hope they put those on the dudes who are on the C-17s flying out of the country.
Starting point is 02:21:51 Worse. So, I'm used to this. I've been doing this for three years. So, I'm sitting in the back with a bologna sandwich, tossing it back and forth, eating it, just hanging out. I had to piss in a water bottle multiple times. Once they lock you in, they can't open that door because they have us labeled as domestic terrorists. It's cynical as shit, but imagine having to take a piss in a water bottle in a moving van.
Starting point is 02:22:14 Is this guy going to try and kill a cop or solicitor minor like his friends just did? No, Pat, you must have that confused with all the fucking scumbag illegals that came into the country who weren't held in prison for ICE to pick them up who got out. The hundreds of stories out there that follow that. Nice try though, buddy. And in boxcuffs. Don't forget the pedophile that was let out who fucking raped seven boys, sodomized seven
Starting point is 02:22:42 boys under the age of seven, uh, 14, the seven boys. He saw them eyes under the age of 14, uh, who a written house killed the day after he got out of jail, um, for screaming a racial slurs in the middle of the street who was white and the cops also let him out. Don't forget about that too, Patty. You got to pull your pants down. Got to kind of lean like this, but I did piss all over the band, which means he deserved it. And then we get to Grayson County, Kentucky for 14 hours.
Starting point is 02:23:11 And then suddenly the deputy comes in. He goes, OK, you guys are staying. Blah, blah. We're going to put you guys in the shoe because you're a bunch of domestic terrorists. And he's like, but you, Tario, don't get comfortable. We're leaving. And I'm like, where are we going? Pollock, Louisiana. I'm like, how far is Pollock? He's like, oh, itario don't get comfortable. We're leaving. And I'm like, where are we going? Pollock, Louisiana. I'm like, how far is Pollock?
Starting point is 02:23:26 He's like, oh, it's another like 12, 13 hours. I knew I was going to get released from there. So I was happy about it. At the end, there was like 27 hours or 26 hours in box cuffs. You're only supposed to put an inmate, the worst inmates in the world. They're only supposed to wear them for four hours maximum. That day I wore box cuffs for 27 hours.
Starting point is 02:23:44 It feels like your bones are being bent at all times. There's no reprieve. It doesn't exist. And I did that for- I think you endured the worst. I've talked to a lot of J6ers and I don't think anyone's had to go through what you've gone through.
Starting point is 02:23:56 You've been transferred to about 30 to 40 different prisons. Sounds fun, right? Sounds fair, right? This is what Pat's talking about. Um, uh, Daniel Ball, uh, who was pardoned has been rearrested. Ball was among the few defendants being held a pre-trial in connection with January 6th, pre-trial dude, and he's been in for fucking four years.
Starting point is 02:24:25 Uh, because he had, um, an arrest warrant on a separate indictment by federal prosecutors last summer charging with unlawfully possessing a gun as a felon. And, uh, was, was this in Florida? Did this happen in Florida? Yeah, Florida, man. So look, at least the conservative states are doing the right thing, right? No, I'm not condoning the release of any pedophiles. No one at J6 molested a child in the Capitol building.
Starting point is 02:25:09 You're full of shit. No kids were molested. No kids were molested. No cops were killed. But Hunter Biden was banging young girls, allegedly. He believed his laptop, if you believe his own words. And hey, dude, do the math. If you pardon, for every 1500 men in the world, there's going to be a certain cohort that's pedophiles, certain cohort that's robbed the bank, certain cohort that's hit a woman, a
Starting point is 02:25:59 certain cohort. There's just the the numbers the odds and so if you're telling me there's one pedo and let me let me let me look that up for you Patty what percentage of population is pedophile How many men are pedophiles? The Pope has reported, he said that 2% of Catholic clergy are pedophiles. Jesus. Pedophilia. The kid did alert. Sorry, minor attracted person. Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you, Pat. I used the right term. So if there's one pedophile and 1,500 people were released or pardoned, that's like 1,500th of 1%. No, no one's defending anything.
Starting point is 02:27:01 There's probably a lottery winner in there too, dude. And there's someone in there who has Peroni's disease, who has a crooked penis. And there's someone who has cancer. And it's like, dude, no one's defending anyone, dude. You can't collect a shitload of people for a bullshit crime and then be like, well, that one's a pedo. And pivot on them. That one slapped his wife when he was 27. Don't be a dick.
Starting point is 02:27:37 What would Jesus do? You want to know why the Dems lost the election? You want to know why? I'll show you why. This is why Trump's president. Watch this video. It's completely mind-blowing, and what's even more mind-blowing is the fact that Democrats still don't understand that this is why they lost the election. This type of crazy shit right here. The gender reveal won't happen anytime soon.
Starting point is 02:28:09 We did not assign a sex at birth, which means when they were born, they had genitals and we know what they are. We just chose to acknowledge that those genitals don't indicate anything about gender. Meet Sparrow, a smiling, curious, adorable 11-month-old baby. Your next question might be, is Sparrow a boy or girl? The answer? To be determined. My own mother did not know Sparrow's genitals for the first three months, even though she was living with us at the time. You're doing so good. Sparrow's parents decided to raise their baby gender neutral meaning Sparrow
Starting point is 02:28:53 will decide gender when older. Even Sparrow's birth certificate says sex unknown. Watch this video. you I don't know. I don't know. That's a good question. I don't know. And you know what? What's crazy? You asked that, Sean, if I start thinking about it, I start stressing about it so fucking hard. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:29:52 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:30:00 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. That's a good question. I don't know. And you know what? What's crazy? You asked that Sean? If I start thinking about it, I start stressing about it so fucking hard. I really, I really, really don't like being... Having any schedule or being told what to do or any time or anything. I hate that shit.
Starting point is 02:30:23 It's a definitely a weakness of mine. I keep telling myself like, I don't even have to do it. I'm just going to sign up. I don't like that's like where I'm at. I don't have to do it. I do what I want to do. That's the, um, let's do it together. Oh, that's not a bad idea. That's not a bad idea. You mean like just go, like have a time where I just set up a camera and I do it and we all three, two, one, go and we all do it.
Starting point is 02:30:50 I could even send out like 10 links and have people from the chat do it with me. I think we can only have like 10 people on here simultaneously. Uh, Kenneth, where's Kenneth? Uh, tranquilo, tranquilo, Sebi. Tranquilo, mi hombre. You do it cool, you don't do it cool. Yeah, it's just chill. Whatever. Yeah, we could go live and laugh at you Sevan. That would be cool.
Starting point is 02:31:34 Oh, make it members only. Oh, that's not bad idea. I'm starting to think the behind the scenes are gonna be members only. Oh my god, I gotta pee so bad. Oh, deacon of pedos. Oh, no, I will be in California and just need somewhere to do it. Oh, you mean like you want to do it like no, hell no. Think of that. I already don't want to be like told what to do or what time to do it. Oh, you mean like you want to do it like, no, hell no. Think of that. I already don't want to be like told what to do or what time to do it or have to organize that or have a schedule. And now I got to coordinate with another person and blow my brains out.
Starting point is 02:32:36 You're not going against wooly now. You're not going against wooly now. No, I'm going to a Wood chipper of that where we throw pitos into a wood chipper in the name of Jesus my Lord and Savior Beep beep beep beep beep All right, what else do we have Oh Global warming let Oh, global warming. Let's visit global warming.
Starting point is 02:33:09 Love global warming. I should go pee while I play this, but I society, they will say 97% of scientists agree with anthropogenic global warming. No, they don't. Where did this come from? This came from this paper by John Cook et al. 2013. What did they do?
Starting point is 02:33:42 They took 12,000 climate papers, of which 66% expressed no opinions. They threw those out of the window. Of the remainder, 3% rejected global warming completely. Ergo, you might say, 97% of papers with an opinion supported global warming. It sounds like a cat food advert, doesn't it? For those of you old enough to remember that one.
Starting point is 02:34:11 But that's not what the paper said. If you dig deeper into this paper, it said 24% of papers supported global warming, only 24%. Now, myself, as a CO2 skeptic, I would be a 24%er, because there has been some warming. We don't quite know what is causing it. We don't quite know the magnitude. Nevertheless, there has been some warming,
Starting point is 02:34:37 so I would be a 24%er. However, digging deeper into this paper, only 8% implicitly endorsed anthropogenic global warring that it's all our fault. And only half a percent of papers explicitly supported the IPCC version of anthropogenic global warring. So it was not 97%, it was half a percent. That's the true figure.
Starting point is 02:35:09 That's the true figure. And the problem here is that all climate scientists are paid to agree with anthropogenic global warming. He who pays the piper calls the tune. If you don't go along with it, you don't get a grant. I know about this because my paper was rejected by the Royal Society because it did not agree with anthropogenic global warming, so I had to go elsewhere to get it published. And if you don't go along with it, well, a bit like my experience, you end up like these climate scientists who were actually pushed out of their jobs because they disagreed with the agenda.
Starting point is 02:35:54 That's the problem with modern academia. There is no freedom of speech, there's no freedom of research, there is no freedom within modern academia. That is a real problem and needs to be overcome. But if you mention... Well, there you go. Anthropogenic global warming means that, like you think, man, it's a warming that's caused by like, you know, stuff that men do, like raising cows that fart too much or driving school buses that blow out diesel fumes. I'll look up the anthropogenic global warming. I'll look up the exact definition
Starting point is 02:36:32 for you. What is anthropogenic global warming? Climate change that's caused by human activities is called anthropogenic. Keep saying progenic. Progenic climate warming. Climate change that's caused by human activities is called anthropogenic. Keep saying progenic. Progenic climate change. Science believe that the changes we are seeing are caused by human activities such as burning fossil fuels, deforestation, agricultural activities. Woolly even asking should be like Taylor asking Wully. No offense, Heavy.
Starting point is 02:37:10 Take me a second to get that. Oh, I'm offended. All right. Let me just leave you guys with this. Corinthians 12.9 My grace is all you need, for my power is the greatest when you are weak. Psalm 73 26. My flesh and my heart may fail but God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever. Namai 8 10. Do not grieve for the joy of the Lord is your strength. Jesus, I typed in most
Starting point is 02:37:59 powerful Bible verses and that's what you get? Well, if you don't see that I walk with the Lord and you should get your fucking eyes checked. Love you guys. Bye. Bye

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