The Sevan Podcast - UFC 308 Breakdown w/ Tyson Bagent and Darian Weeks

Episode Date: October 28, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 BAM we're live! Where is everybody? Where are the boys? Try to get big guests on and I make you wait. Ken Walters what's up first? Good to see you Rambler, good job. Good job. Kenneth DeLapp, I'm straighter than Sevan but damn these dudes are hot as fuck.
Starting point is 00:00:18 Alright if you say so. Natalie Fleming, I don't know shit about fighting but here I am. There you go. Tyson Bajan, we'll see. I don't know shit about fighting, but here I am. There you go. Tyson Bajan, we'll see. I don't see Tyson or Darien. Who knows? Did Homsot make weight? He did 186.
Starting point is 00:00:35 And he looked great. He looked great. He looked great. Broman. Bam, I'm here to have a good time. Broman. Bam. I'm here to have a good time. Let's do it. I text the boys the link. I heard back from Darian.
Starting point is 00:00:52 He should be here any minute. I haven't heard back from Tyson. Hopefully he'll be here. He's always been good for a show. Hello. I'm just here to see Tyson Bajan. I don't blame you. Who isn't?
Starting point is 00:01:03 It makes the show a lot funner Clip that all right the what? Holy shit What the fuck happened? Oh who Who back there is back there? I? Nelly I got scared for a second look at this hello I'm here just to see Tyson shout out to Judy shout out to Judy holy cow you've been growing your beard out
Starting point is 00:01:32 for a month yeah it's all just horrible looking I got just too lazy to get rid of whatever this is on my face but yeah are you like Josh Bridges you just can't grow anything uh you know my dad said that he his facial hair journey started a little bit later uh like 23 24 so i'm just gonna blame it on that but but those patches there you didn't shave those off that's just it doesn't grow there no no this is like five days he's so young ladies and gentlemen he doesn't even have pores. Doesn't even have pores yet. How's the season going? Oh man the vibes are through the roof four
Starting point is 00:02:16 and two. A little bit of a rocky start but I think we found our stride a little bit and which is good because the end of the season is gonna be hard for. So it's good to rack up as many wins as we can right now. You mean you see the guys that you have to fight at the end of the schedule and you're like, okay, this is going to be we're going to build up ramp up. Yeah, you just know. Yeah, you just know it's got to be ramped up at the end. So being able to have a little bit of a safety blanket with these early season wins is I think going to be huge for us down the route. Tyson, you played in the preseason and then it's been six games and Caleb has now been playing?
Starting point is 00:02:52 Yes, he's been playing. And your role, has your role changed? Or is it, I don't mean necessarily changed, but do you see it evolving? Like where your contribution as the season goes on is more and more, you know what I mean? Let's say like if I worked in Donald's my first week, I'd only be working the fryer. And then after like a month I might be like picking up some trash and take more prize and like be just working in and seeing what else I can do.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Yeah. I think especially with the everything that happens before the regular season, um, you know, you're giving everybody reps cause you're trying to see who's going to make the team. But then now as soon as week one comes around, now all the starters get all the reps. And now my job is just to get the defense ready and kind of help Caleb be as prepared as he can and just offer whatever insight I can throughout the week. And what do you, Darian, what's up, dude?
Starting point is 00:03:41 What's up? You shaved your hair out. Oh, who me? Yeah. Oh yeah. you. Hey, what's up, dude? Not a whole lot man. How you doing brother? I'm doing my god and look at this. We got a special guest Caleb Eber holy shit great Caleb what up? Caleb's on stock he's on the stutter program How's everyone been I ain't been here in a while Yeah, awesome your kids your, your kids still kicking butt. Killing it dude. One of my boys is a no gee gee last two tournaments, double gold in both tournaments.
Starting point is 00:04:32 What a savage. Wow. Yeah. And I got both the boys in the same bracket, fucking kids up. It's so fun. And I keep showing them Rotola brother videos and I'm like, I'm so jazz, dude. So now all they got to do is win the X games too, huh? Yeah, skateboarding has been causing some injuries. So that's just kind of wean them from that a little bit. They were getting good. You should let them do it. Tyson Gageant, quarterback for Chicago Bears,
Starting point is 00:05:00 Darian Weeks, a professional fighter, won his last three fights. Congratulations, Darian. Awesome job. Tyson, Darian, awesome job. Tyson, I want to ask you one question. You said something about preparing the defense. What do you mean by that? Yeah, so whoever we play each week,
Starting point is 00:05:16 my job is to emulate that team's quarterback the best I can just when I go up against our starting defense. Oh, crazy. So that's like the fight game, right, Darren? Like if you're going to fight someone, you would try to find a guy who could kind of like, yeah, like the guys, the way the guy fights. Yeah, it's exactly the same way. Yeah, crazy. All right. Before we get we incredible Carter, you how fucking pumped are you, Tyson, for this 308?
Starting point is 00:05:43 I'm juice. I mean, I've been obviously You know max Holloway's been on my radar more so than ever since his last fight in I Think you know, Elia's got a little bit kind of McGregor in him. So I like that too So it's kind of a win-win for me. I don't care who I don't really care who wins And then you got hums ot and the great Robert Whitaker Yeah, I'm hoping Robin Whitaker starches. Hamsat. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I think that I think that'd be the case as well.
Starting point is 00:06:09 So we do have, we do have biases, right? Are we all Holloway and, uh, Whitaker fans? I'm definitely Holloway and yeah. Think Ilja is going to win, but everybody wants Max to win. I hope he doesn't win. I mean, understand like he's a great fighter and you're right he does kind of have that Conor McGregor aspect to him that cockiness to him but I can't stand him. Okay before we dig in there is something I need to show Tyson that's not fight related if It's not often we get a NFL quarterback on the show or anyone who plays in the NFL
Starting point is 00:06:53 So we should have I want to know what's going on here And if you've ever done this Tyson Tyson have you ever seen this clip before I don't I don't think so Okay. Well in the foreground here, we have two guys holding towels Okay. Yes, well in the foreground here we have two guys holding towels. Okay, yeah. Right here. Here we go. Yeah, he's taking a piss. Have you, that's the protocol. Do you recognize that bag? Is that like a standard issue?
Starting point is 00:07:25 I didn't know I mean I've never had to do that luckily, but I didn't know it was a bag That was the only weird part of the whole video Honestly, it's the bag like you but I mean maybe they do have like piss bags on the sideline straight gentleman I thought it was just a cup or something. Like a Gatorade bottle? You're telling me that you played five years of college ball. You're in your second year in the NFL and you don't know the PISS protocol on the sideline? I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:07:59 I think a lot of people kind of piss themselves a little bit during the game. It's personal things that dudes piss themselves a little bit during like the game. Personal things that dudes piss himself a little bit. So, yeah. Yeah. And I think there's too much going on for you to be thinking about having to pee. And there's so many opportunities to pee like before you're on the field and then at halftime. So I don't think, I think it happens probably a lot less than you would think. Yeah, I'm surprised. And why wouldn't they run him off the field because he might have to go out next play or something? So it's so you're so far you'd be so far away at that point. And just you don't know when you're going to go on the field. So you know, you could get caught in the bathroom while
Starting point is 00:08:39 you're while your team's out there. And that and I'm guessing that looks like it's some sort of official bag for Peme. Like they have a protocol that doesn't look like just some random. Yeah it does. It's not like an ice bag that they just let him piss in. I don't know. I've never seen that kind of bag before. Which maybe makes it make more sense. And these two dudes holding the towels, what position would they be? What if I wanted that job? I mean, shit, I mean, they could be like equipment staff. Shit. That could be the nutritionists. I mean, you don't, whoever, I mean, trainers, whoever you run into first. Yeah. It'd be like the trainers. They're going to have to get this set up for, you know, MMA fights piss in
Starting point is 00:09:24 between the rounds, you know, just hold the towel up, get one out of there. the the like throw up or shit, you're automatically disqualified. Wow. NFL's was more lenient. Yeah, way more. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, there was the heavyweight fighter, I'm trying to remember his name, the bald guy out of Houston.
Starting point is 00:10:19 He said in a press conference once, he goes, yeah, that was a tough fight for me, I had to shit the entire fight. Who's that guy? Oh yeah, probably, probably probably you thinking Derek Lewis yeah Derek Lewis yes yeah he always says some weird off the wall shit like that yeah yeah but no it does happen just just because I mean you spend the you spend the whole day rehydrating and eating you know to try to get all your weight back and then you know sometimes you have
Starting point is 00:10:43 this shit right there in the middle of the freaking fight and you're like, ah, this is terrible. I hate this. Wow. And then getting hit to the body must be brutal. It must be. Oh, it's terrible. Okay. And then I, and then I have a question here, uh, for you, Darien.
Starting point is 00:10:58 I don't know if you saw the press conference. This is, this is wild. I've been watching the UFC that long, maybe only like 10 years. This happened at the press conference and I've never seen anything like this watch watch this I Don't have a question I come here for fight in short notice. I never I had a manager never. I did all by myself. Please give me chance Dana. I want to fight in UFC. Please give me. I'm ready. Fight to show. I'm from Tajikistan. I have no manager. I'm nine and oh. Dana, can you give me a shot?
Starting point is 00:11:55 Yeah, I've never, I've never, ever seen that. That's, that's crazy. Like, yeah. I mean, I guess, you know, he said he doesn't have a manager either So I guess you know, he's shooting his shot. Hey put me in the league now watch this now watch this You won't even believe what happens next 25 yeah 25 years old Wait here Got come here. She's pretty what she's lightweight lightweight. Yes, I will treat my weight. Yeah The contender series just ended where were you? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm ready. You're right. Give me a chance, please
Starting point is 00:12:34 Yeah, doesn't matter UFC Cut it down That's sad Tyson got an NFL by the way That is that's sad that's sad that's sad that's sad that's sad that's sad
Starting point is 00:12:53 that's sad that's sad that's sad that's sad that's sad that's sad that's sad that's sad I'm going to go to the UFC. That's crazy. So, you so you think so you think he gave him he just put him on the UFC,
Starting point is 00:13:10 huh? I mean, uh fuck dude. I don't know. II don't know what happened to that dude. Well, the next fucking press conference, I'm going. I'm like, Dana, I've been here before. What can bring me back baby? Come on. I'm uh Darian. How close are you to getting back into the UFC with your
Starting point is 00:13:25 last three wins? From third person say they said they're telling my manager that you know I only need you know one big one or two more and I'm in there. I actually after my last one Sean Shelby was their front row. They wanted to see the kid starch me and I beat the living dog shit out of him. And then I went up to Sean Shelby immediately and I was like, come on, Sean, bring me back. I know I lost these decisions, but they're decisions. And he said they always keep an eye on me. They know what type of fighter I am. So hopefully Hopefully one or two more and I'm freaking ready, but I've scheduled two fights in the last three months
Starting point is 00:14:12 And they both fell through so it's really pissing me off So you don't have a fight scheduled right now now I had one for November 24th with a guy Tours hamstring or something so that fight they just blew the whole they took the whole main event out so it was terrible what is this Caleb that guy that was just on stage it says that they're gonna put him in a fight during Korean zombies promotion in South Korea Wow 14th okay so yeah they're gonna test him out. They're going to see, oh, is he worth being in the UFC?
Starting point is 00:14:49 That's still pretty legit, though. I mean, if Dana White, he got Dana White to set your fight up for you. That's pretty legit. I don't know if you know Tyson's story, Darian, but he took the hard road to the NFL. He came up through a Division II college You didn't even get drafted right Tyson. No, it didn't get didn't get drafted. It's kind of unheard of it is unheard of Came on to the Chicago Bears And made it through the first season you started you played five games. Yeah your first year. Yeah
Starting point is 00:15:25 And in Tyson a training camp how many quarterbacks were there this year? Four. And how many are there now? Two. Wow. So two. So you are you if Caleb like he has a hangnail, you're in. Yeah. Crazy. That's decent. That's decent. So what'd you do? Like, did you? What did you hire
Starting point is 00:15:44 a manager and she he got you in there or what? Yeah, I got a, well yeah, hired an agent. Even though I was at a lower level, I played really well for four straight years at that lower level. So my name was kind of out there a little bit. And then got, was undrafted to the free agent to the Bears and then just able to weasel my way in there from that point on. So. No, yeah, that's tough. That's pretty dope. And Darian in all, just to be clear,
Starting point is 00:16:15 he won the division two Heisman trophy. It's called the Harlan Hill award, but still the odds were against him. If you look on Wiki, how many division two players made it in the NFL a little on quarterbacks, it's like none not it's like one or two in the history of the NFL it's like yeah yeah yeah some more records in an NFL boy cuz you already just broke one exactly yeah it's where I toward my head's up and and
Starting point is 00:16:38 Tyson did set the record for most yards thrown I believe right with most yards thrown ever in a college football game Tyson no more I threw the most touchdowns of anybody ever ever okay any college quarterback ever division one two three he threw the most yards ever yeah that's crazy right that's freaking crazy ever yeah so so uh he was he wasn't a chump he was just hiding out amongst the chumps yes yeah I didn't like the way stevan kind of presented that like I was a bum. I was a dud that got lucky. What drove you to Division 2? You didn't why didn't you go D1?
Starting point is 00:17:19 I was a I don't know I don't know either I don't know why I don't know either. I don't know why I didn't get the D1 offers. So I went to my D2 school that I grew up like 10 minutes away from and yeah just bought out for four years and made it that way. And Darian he's a freak if you if you google him online he's a fucking I'm way underselling him. I mean, obviously yards ever passed in college football history. He's a freak. He's a physical specimen. His dedication, his knowledge, his commitment. I mean, and he's got a helicopter dad like no other. His dad's fucking taking him everywhere still drives him on chaperones is dates and shit. That's hilarious. No, yeah, I can tell that by the way he was offended on how you were the the
Starting point is 00:18:07 the the the the the the the Dyson, Darien owns a salon. What was it? Is that his? Barbershop, pussy. He owns a hair salon.
Starting point is 00:18:32 You gonna do someone's nails right now, Darien? Yeah, I'm about to do his nails, wax his eyebrows, and get them all cleaned up. Okay, I wanna show you my first concern here. You guys aren't gonna like this too much. Yeah, you said about the weigh-ins or you said it yesterday about the press conference. Yeah, I want you to check out Holloway's face as he gets on the scale here. This eye thing that's going on with him is making me a little uncomfortable. Look at him, dude. the
Starting point is 00:19:07 look at him do you look semi-retarded do on he is pre-drained and I saw you'll get on the scale and he was nowhere near that drain I will show I will pull up the only though I was I do have a clip of illian his eyes are doing some asymmetrical shit to is this so his last fight he fought at 155 during, and now he's fighting at 145. Is he hurting right now on the scale? Um, it, to be honest, that 155 was probably like a weight class up for him.
Starting point is 00:19:35 So it was probably like really just not that big of a cut. So this is probably his normal weight class. I mean, I wouldn't say he's, he's hurting any more than he would anyway, cutting weight for a fight. Even though his last fight was 155. You don't think like maybe he got a little soft doing that No, because freaking what was what was there? What was max? Always fight at 170 That's what I mean max hallways fight against gate. She was at 155, but oh 145 normally fights at 145. I mean he does normally fight at 145, but I Mean this cut looks like it was terrible for him. I mean we can see the results in his face
Starting point is 00:20:10 You know what I mean? Like He ain't got no he ain't got no water in his body right now And in the press conference his voice sounded weak and he didn't talk a lot Yeah, I mean but one thing I will say about Max Holloway, he's a dog so you can never count him out. You know what I mean? Like that could have been that could be the hardest thing he had to go through in his life and he's still going to come out on game day and break break something on Ilya Poria,
Starting point is 00:20:40 even if he freaking loses, which I hope he doesn't. Okay, let me show you this now let me show you let me show you to poor you cuz he got a little he got a little weird I should going on to hear this and I'm not I what I watched his way and I think he looked I didn't think you would drain really let me let me let me show you look at his face and look at it I card look at that yeah look at that little slump I
Starting point is 00:21:03 do see it yeah that's tear the. Card is look at that yeah look at that little slump I do see it yeah that's terrible just a little target. They're both jacked up so that's good yeah that is good it makes for I mean even little fight now the first defense of it. Yeah
Starting point is 00:21:21 that is droopy maybe that's how it's always been. I don't know dude, he's usually like glistening and shit. Hard cut for both of them. Fuck it. He looks dim. Hey, after the press conference, you know that they're cutting weight at the press conference, I saw them and then they do that ceremonial face off. I saw both of them run to the sidelines and throw gum in their mouth. Does that signify anything like, Hey, they're fucking starving and they're both chewing like fucking cows.
Starting point is 00:21:50 No, I've never, I never, um, I don't know what the gum signifies. Um, I would have went through water down my freaking hatch. Not, not, not any gum, but I mean, I don't know. No, but it was before the weigh-in. It was at the, sorry, not the ceremonial weigh-in, not the ceremonial weigh-ins at the press conference. It was at the ceremonial face-off. Sorry. Yes. No. Okay. So then they're, and then they're chewing gum and I'm like, fuck, they're,
Starting point is 00:22:15 they're like starving. They're starving. That's what it is. So yeah, they're just quenching there. So they'll give us, they'll either give us either gum or they'll give us Jolly Ranchers and you'll just throw one in and try to survive without any intake of actual food. So yeah, they're probably, yeah, they're biting at it right now, for sure. Okay, and one more clip before we go to making our predictions. Let me show you this. This is at the final face off.
Starting point is 00:22:42 This is some famous soccer player here in the background. I went over to his Instagram account. He's got like 70 million followers, not really relevant. is the like if I can get somebody to like repeat whatever I do first I feel like I control the match I mean that's just something that I like if I can get oh I do this and then you feel like you have to do that to be at the same level as I am oh then now I I think I control the match but so you think that's a bad sign for Max because Ilya does it first. Terrible bad sign like literally like Max immediately copies him. I mean as soon as Ilya slaps his chest I mean Max like oh wait I'm gonna slap my chest too like oh no you can't have a you can't have a forethought you know
Starting point is 00:23:56 what I'm saying you have to have it it has to be your idea. Tyson he has said to Max to his face and to the press 100 times we've seen it. Hey meet me in the center of the ring for the first 10 seconds of the fight What do you think that's about? You think he means? Yeah, I mean you gotta take work you gotta take his work for it till he doesn't do it I mean, I think yeah, I think it's all just a Like a spin around on just what max Holloway does at the end of fights. Yeah points in the middle of the cage the the- I think it works better for Max Holloway when he does it at the end because you know kind of and you're in a whole
Starting point is 00:24:48 fight you have a better flow about you've taken some punches yeah so you can absorb more I don't know if he should do that at the beginning of the fight with the early egg because it would be it would be completely ill is. Actually a little bit
Starting point is 00:25:02 of an ideaz in it too anyway. I'm just like, don't take it and then, you know, it's different at that point but yeah, I don't think I agree and I I think Ilya just has so much power and so much. I mean, he's he's so precise
Starting point is 00:25:20 and what you do. I mean, we see how he did Volkanovsky and Volkanovsky was the man before that. You know what I mean? Like he lost to Islam, but I mean, that wasn't even a loss. You know what I mean? He was still beating the dog out of Islam. So I mean- Are you really cutting someone's hair right now? What? Yeah. This is real life.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Holy shit. This is amazing. This is the first. We're on the job. Yeah. Anytime you ever ask me if I can do a show again, the world the job the the the the
Starting point is 00:25:59 the the the I like the way you spun it, Tyson, has just committed. Just freaking committed, dog. Well, I ain't been on one of these shows. We were supposed to do one a couple months back, but I think my fight got canceled and stuff, so we never popped up. Your wife texted me and told me you were sick. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:26:16 Let me tell you about that. That was terrible. She said you were in bed. She's like, he can't get out of bed. She was so sweet the way she texted me. It was cool. And I was really he can't get out of bed. She was so sweet the way she texted me. It was cool. And I was really glad that she, you know, she was coming for me, but I told her, I was like,
Starting point is 00:26:30 oh, that's Yvonne. Like you could have just told the truth. I got fucked up. I mean, I got fucked up the night before. And I mean, I was, I mean, I was drunker than anything. She had to pick me up. I kept drinking when she told me not to she's grabbing bottles out of my hand. I'm throwing up everywhere. Oh yeah I was beat. She got me. Who's holding your phone right now?
Starting point is 00:26:55 That's me. You're cutting with one hand and holding the phone in the other hand. You're a professional. You can do anything. And what's the guy's name whose hair you're cutting? Oh it's're a professional. You can do anything. His name is hair. You're cutting. Oh, it's just a regular damn. Tell Oscar. I said, what's up. What's up? Oscar Jose. I saw him for a second. His name is either Oscar or Jose. Oh, glad I got these head buds in boy. I'm glad I got these in. Okay. Max has, I think Max has five or six inches on the guy. You think that matters?
Starting point is 00:27:36 It's huge, right? I don't think Tapuri is going to find his range. No, yeah. And also, Max does a good job with keeping his range on even people who are the same height as him. So like it's going to be, it'll be a challenge for Ilya. I don't think he's fought anybody like this, has he? I mean his record's pretty crazy. He's only gone five rounds once. Most of his fights have been like first, first to third round fight.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Yeah, look at that. Look at that. That's great. Not you, Darian. Don't worry about it. You're cutting hair. Look at that height difference. No. Yeah. That's yeah. It's yeah. Four or five inches for sure. I'm going I'm going next. I bet Max Holloway knocks him out in the third. I'm saying that right now. I'm putting all my chips on that. You want you guys want to throw money. Let's throw money. Max knocks him out in the third. Didn't Daring, Tyson, didn't Daring come on and say that he thought
Starting point is 00:28:26 to Puri was going to win now he's already he flipped the script. Oh, I did it. Oh, no, I think he's been on the max training this whole time. I've been on the max train the whole time, baby. Oh, what are you saying? He hopes he wants to get knocked out because he hates it. I talked to you at the beginning. Yeah. So thank you. Thank you, my man. I got you. Tyson, what if he goes out there and he gets suckered?
Starting point is 00:28:48 He says, hey, let's throw down the first 10 seconds in the center. And he takes Max down. Yeah, I mean, I think I think I think he is going to win. I think that the height is the height difference is big. But I think just I think he is just in a different He's in a different zone right now. He's so fast. I think he's gonna, you know, work his way and find the shots.
Starting point is 00:29:12 But I mean, it's all about I mean, once again, he hasn't, he hasn't been to the fifth round, but one time. So I think it'd be a great fight. I think Elia is going to win. He can do it. Really believe himself as much as he's portraying. Yeah, for whatever reason, that's why, you know, I wouldn't just compare somebody to Conor McGregor just because they talk shit. It's almost like I believe he can talk shit in a way that I believe it of like,
Starting point is 00:29:35 oh man, he's saying it's gonna be a walk in the park easy fight for whatever reason. I kind of feel like he's just saying that because all the work he's putting in and how much of an is only is so that kind of feel like he's just saying that because all the work he's putting in and how much of in this only is. So that kind of is it. He has no option but to believe that everything perfectly. Yeah. And I think he actually believes it. Like he even, even if it's not true, he's he just, you know, probably just operates in a sense of straight up belief and has just no,
Starting point is 00:30:07 um, no withering thoughts, you know when it comes to the before the fight at all and just going to go out there and just be loose and I will say I do think I do think I do think he's right because I mean he's Ilya has put everything in emotion by just saying that this is what he's going to do. This is what I'm going to do. I'm going gonna do this. So it does scare me a bit. I am a little terrified for Max. But I mean that's part of the game. Like as long as you're walking in confidence, it doesn't matter what sport you're in. Football, fighting, whatever. If you're walking in confidence, you're gonna achieve what you
Starting point is 00:30:41 set out to achieve. Yeah I feel like like to poor you read some self help book where like you can talk shit into reality and for 15 fights that's worked for him. And so he's like, he's going to keep doing it. Yeah. Okay. Doesn't work. So during your calling for a third round knockout, max knocks him out in the third round, even though max has been suspect. A lot of his fights have gone the distance until he stood in the center with Gagey
Starting point is 00:31:07 Yeah I'm just gonna say like it's just gonna be a whim of chance Max Holloway is gonna be feeling good and he's just gonna drop him. I have to I have to hope that happens, dude It's more than a three inch height difference between those two. So much more. There's no way that Max if the reach is even. Yeah, max is getting put night night first or second round straight to straight to sleep. If the reaches if you think the reach is the same, I didn't really I didn't even really know that the reach in this fast paced world staying sharp and focused is a non-negotiable.
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Starting point is 00:34:17 but Ilya's so fast. I mean, even just seeing how he just connected with Volkonoski, and I've seen Volkonoski fight a couple times and just thought in My head like this is the quickest dude on the fuck on the planet. So it's like yeah I don't know. I mean, I hope Max wins, but I think I think he's gonna Give him some give him some crazy work early on. Here's what I think about the bull fight I think we'll pick up the bottle I think his body looked a little bit soft when he fought Ilya.
Starting point is 00:34:47 And he no way showed up the same way he showed up to the first fight with Islam. Well, yeah. I mean, you know, he said, you know, after that, in that press conference, you know, he was fighting depression, you know, he was having a real low moment. And he just needed to fight to keep you know to get his spirits back oh yeah you know something to get his spirits back high so I mean he fought a different Volkanovsky you know I'm saying he didn't give folks tummy something like you can see that he used to be a two hundred and ten pound man yeah he dropped him that's crazy like that what round is that that's round two round two and he slept him that's crazy like that. What round is that? That's round two. Round two and he slept him like a baby.
Starting point is 00:35:29 He just picks him apart too. Yeah he did a good job picking him apart. Tyson any thoughts on who's getting, let's say it does go to the third round. You think that who's going to be backing up the most? You think it'll be Toporia or? Yeah I think once you get to the third round or maybe later in the third round, you think that who's going to be backing up the most? You think it'll be a toporia or? Yeah, I think I think once you get to the third round or maybe later in the third round, I think that Max starts to take hold. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Starts to become more and more of an issue. And I think he'll, he'll be the one to keep the pressure on. That's why I think that Max should not fall into, Oh, let's just go into the middle of the cage at the beginning of the round. I think he should drag him, just drag him all the middle of the cage at the beginning of the round. I think he should drag him. Just drag him all the way to the third. Like even if you have to jab, jab your way to the third round and then drown him after that. You know what I mean? What does that look like, Darian? Is that just a lot of circling and jabbing? Is that
Starting point is 00:36:18 what you're saying? Circle, jab, circle, jab? I say it's a lot of circling, jabs, low leg kicks, and even from Max, I'd say some shots. I would take a shot on Ilya because I don't feel like he was going to submit me. You know what I mean? I don't feel like he's going to, you know, and I think Max is smart enough to get up and defend Groutapound. I think the most, the danger he has to worry about is on his feet.
Starting point is 00:36:40 If he gets cracked with an overhand right from Ilya, I mean, gosh, he just throws that with ill intentions. You know what I mean? And he's a strong guy. I don't think I've ever seen Max take a shot. You talking about a takedown? Yeah, why not? That's exactly it.
Starting point is 00:36:55 You never seen Max take a shot. There's no reason why Ili would train for that. Why would he train for stopping a takedown? Bet. Take him down. Bring something new into the equation because I'll tell you right now if someone who hasn't been to the third round gets taken down that wrestling when you have to wrestle is I mean it takes breath out of your lungs you're not going to have nothing you don't have no power your punches by third round. Tyson you think um Max's take down defense has been insane you think
Starting point is 00:37:21 Ilya will try to take him down just to prove a point? No, I'm kind of more on the fence with what Darian said just because I know Ilya just probably wants to just stand and bang the whole fight. So if anybody was to take anybody on, I would imagine it would be Max just because of the disadvantage to just stand in front of Ilya for that many rounds. William Lewis, Max just went wire to wire with Gagey. No way Ilya's going to win the fight. Yeah, dude, but it was 10 pounds heavier. Max's chin is the best in the business.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Before I read on, I agree with that. I think Max's chin is the best in the business. You guys agree? I do, yeah. Best chin in the business. Max is going to make him pay for chirping so much. God, I hope so. Like reason the reason this is such a So watch fight is because that max is the best chin in the building and Ilya is a freaking
Starting point is 00:38:14 finisher, you know me he finishes people and Max doesn't get finished. I mean and even when he went up to fight Dustin Poirier and you could tell that those punches were night and day different, you know what I mean? Dustin Poirier was hitting them with Mack trucks and he ate all of them. And Holloway's 30 something fights, he's had like 10 takedown attempts total. See I would take them down. I would shoot, if I was Mack, I'd shoot a takedown just cause.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Boy, Tyson, I'm really sorry, but they paid five bucks. Seve, can we get these dudes opinion on Briana chick that's chasing an NFL player so one I'll tell you whole house there's this chick who's a listener to the show and a kicker in the NFL who she had never met she just met online sent her a ticket to the the go. Oh, Mike, cool boy. Kickers are people too. I told her she should definitely not stay at the house. Yeah, definitely shouldn't do that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:56 How good of a kicker is he though? Is he like? I can't remember. She's hot though. Oh yeah. I mean, he could just, you know, he could buy it be in love. All right. I can't remember. She's hot Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he was. The season's stressful.
Starting point is 00:40:23 The season's stressful. Okay. Before we come back and make our choices for the fight, Hamza and Robert Whitaker, Tyson, you think Whitaker even has a chance? I think Whitaker's going to win. I think Whitaker's going to win this fight. I just think that I think Hamza has been on some, of goofy, silly stuff with, I feel like he got a bunch of money just falling to his lap and kind of got soft. And I don't think we see necessarily the same Kamzad when he first busted onto
Starting point is 00:40:56 the scene, just a dude that's been in the basement just getting hurt all day. And I think Whitaker's been in a weird spot where he's been losing some fights people think he might be Washed and busted and he's trying to you know make his way out of that hole so You know I got to rock for Whitaker on this one No one has made Homs on Darien look even human until burns burnt and what's interesting is that was at 171? So 171 pounder made a most human What's interesting is that was at 171. So 171 pounder made a most human. I'll tell you this Whitaker definitely has a chance because I'll tell you what
Starting point is 00:41:29 you, you give, you would have give Kamara Usman a full camp and Kamara. We wouldn't even be talking about Hums out right now. You know what I'm saying? Like if Kamara Usman had a full camp instead of a two week, he beats Hums out. You know what I'm saying? Hums out. Didn't finish them. They took that to a decision.
Starting point is 00:41:44 You know what I mean? And an upper weight class. so I'm a yeah and also like Like Tyson said like Hamsa's been out of the media. He been you know doing this thing He hasn't been accepting fights. They actually said that he's been like super sick is why he's this fight It's been rescheduled like twice already. You know I'm saying like they had I don't know what kind of illness but he was fighting something like hardcore. So I don't know. I say he doesn't come in as the same Homs out either. I say I say Robin Whitaker shows up and shows out. Tyson, I do think Robert Whitaker was probably it could be the best fighter ever at 185 even better than Izzy. But the problem is, is that he gets reckless and leaves his chin out there.
Starting point is 00:42:30 Do you have any concerns of that? That he's too early in the fight. He's going to get reckless and try to stand toe to toe with Hamsa. He says he's going to pressure him. Yeah. I mean, I just, I'd be surprised if Hamsa hit him with a crazy shot and like knocked him out or something that would be certainly surprising. But I mean also I mean whatever I want to say about Hamsa. Wait hold on hold on. Darian circumcising someone right now. Let him finish and then.
Starting point is 00:43:02 No matter what you want to say about Hamsa I mean, he has been just a problem in there for a lot of people and just so violent and aggressive and such a strong like wrestler and overwhelming. So I mean, it could go either way, but I don't I wouldn't say I have a fear of Whitaker taking some chances. I wouldn't say that. Darren, do you have concerns? Whitaker said he doesn't want it to go to the ground.
Starting point is 00:43:24 You think that was a mistake that he said that in the press conference? No, that's not a mistake. I wouldn't want it to go to the ground with Hamzat either. Hamzat is just, that's where his strength is. He'll never forget that. That's muscle memory. You know what I mean? Like he's going to be strong on the ground. I would try to keep it up as long as I could. Whitaker would be 10 times up fighter he is while he's standing up. And you could see that Gilbert Burns is not good as Whittaker standing up and Gilbert Burns was cracking him with some so I'm hoping I'm hoping he stays up. I'm hoping his wrestling defense is on 100% because then we'll get to see Homs not break and then I had a bad
Starting point is 00:44:03 experience with Homs on in real life. So that's why I don't really care for him. Was it was he addicted? It was addicted to everybody. We were all at the PI. It was like, it was like a lot of UFC fighters out there and he was just walking around all air again and I'm trying to weigh in. I think I told you the story before. I'm trying to weigh in and check my weight and he's standing in front of the
Starting point is 00:44:23 scale, like not moving. And so I just got butt standing in front of the scale like not moving and so I just got butt naked in front of him and then he's like oh bro and freaked out and move him like yeah get out of here bro what are you doing? That's what I do to get my wife out of bed I just get buck naked. Hey! Out of bed. Oh yeah so I'm seeing I'm seeing it go pretty good. What's the undercard looking like? I
Starting point is 00:44:48 Don't really know any of these guys the only fight that I'm surprised the prelim card has Jeff Neal, okay Well, let me before we go there real quick. So who do you who do you got in the fight in what round between? Let's go back to haul a hallway into puria Tyson. I Worry a second round Not what you want, but it's your prediction Darien I Want I'm doing Holloway third round or or or decision. Let me do two. Let me do two third round or decision Because you're on a podcast and cutting hair at the same time you get to
Starting point is 00:45:25 To it's the barber and the podcaster on it Hey what I would really like to see and that's gonna be my choice, too I think it's what you guys would like to see too I'd like to see it go to the fifth round and Holloway get a chance to toy with them and dance around and talk to Them and just kind of just pummel them just be just throwing punches at him body shots face shots Just I'd like to see his face turn into fucking a meatball sandwich. I most definitely agree with that kind of just pummel him, just be just throwing punches at him, body shots, face shots. Just I'd like to see his face turned into fucking a meatball sandwich. I most definitely agree with that. I most definitely agree. I hope that I mean, and
Starting point is 00:45:53 just to see somebody with such I like watching people with such confidence just get shredded and turn it into nothing like, you know, it's kind of like watching Conor McGregor fight Nate Diaz the first time. That was wonderful. Yeah. We loved watching that. We got to see the cockiest person in the world get choked out and blood all on him. Like, I'm like, ah, this is great. This is awesome.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Still impressive though, both fights with Conor were still impressive how much dog he has in him, right? Oh yeah, for sure. For sure. Yeah it would it would the worst thing that could happen is they go toe to toe and he starches them like Connor did Jose Aldo that would suck if Tapuria did that to Holloway. That would suck. I would cry. Okay uh you first this time Darian uh Hamzat and uh Whittaker. Whittaker all day baby he's too. He's too big. He's too strong This is his weight class. He's been the champion in this weight class three times. I
Starting point is 00:46:52 Got Whitaker And do you have a do you have a round you think it's a ko? No, I don't I don't think I'm I don't think I'm not that soft. You know what I'm saying? Like he just gonna get knocked out So you think it's going to distance you think they'll both be just a wreck We're gonna see that stumbling to fucking 185 or stumbling around in the ring I'm definitely saying we're gonna see that and I'm definitely and I'm definitely thinking this and I definitely think if it goes to the third round Robin Whitaker will start shooting after that Wow If it goes to the third round Robin Whitaker will start shooting after that Wow
Starting point is 00:47:29 Just to make a point Yeah, just just to be like bet now I can take him down because he's tired because we're in the third round He's not gonna have that scramble energy. It's gonna be Yeah, it's gonna be crazy Tyson thoughts Tyson before you give us your thoughts. You think Whitaker's got a bigger engine than Hums. I do I do I think Yeah, I think I don't remember which fight it was
Starting point is 00:47:54 With Hums out, but I just remember He was super gassed by the end of it and I think so I think if it does go to the third round I think I think Whitaker maybe gets him in just because he's so exhausted, maybe catches him in a submission of some sort towards the end of the fight. I would that would be pretty that'd be pretty sweet. That would be awesome if Whitaker tapped them vindicate vndk.com to get your CEO shirts wasn't Whitaker almost an Aussie on the Aussie wrestling team like on the national team interesting I Didn't know but I'll tell you what one of the best wrestlers that's been in the UFC was your Mero and
Starting point is 00:48:34 Robin Whitaker went head-to-head with him in wrestling. You know, I mean that dude was a wrestling champion for years Cuba silver medalist in the Olympics I think. Yeah, yeah for two years and so like come on he wrestled the best and Robbo and I mean your mirror was built like freaking a Greek statue you know what I'm saying. Right. He is freaking. Unbelievable different kind of human. Different kind of human so I mean Whitaker knows what it takes All right, so you'd like to see you'd like to see a submission in the late rounds Tyson yeah, I think I think comes odds engine is gone by that point and Robert yeah Robert gets him in a late late third round submission a rear naked choke. Yeah, something like that Sleep. Oh god, wouldn't that be awesome? Hey, do you think Homs odd taps or no?
Starting point is 00:49:25 He does he won't tap either right? Yeah, he'll tap. He'll tap. They don't like to go out But it would be dope if he just went out like a sad. Yeah, it would be better if he didn't but he'll certainly tap Hey, you think you think if to poor you gets a Holloway in a submission hallway taps or he goes out Holloway go out He's a shield dial Holloway or die on his shield and of the year that's it. That'd be my $79 worth. Where are you watching the fight at Tyson? Do you know? I gotta watch it on the airplane. Fly to Washington tomorrow. So and I think the fight's at 1 1 p.m. Eastern time or something like that. So that's right when we'll be in there. So I figured out playing Wi-Fi. Do you guys, do you fly in a team plane? Does the team have a plane?
Starting point is 00:50:29 Yeah. And how's the Wi-Fi on it? It's average. It's all right. But you think you could still get it? Yeah. Will there be a dude sitting next to you watching it with you? There's not too many UFC fans on the squad, and especially what our seating arrangement is. you know what I mean. I'm
Starting point is 00:51:02 I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:51:18 I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Jeff Neil I thought it was gonna be the main the main event for the prelims but it's Jeff Neil versus Rafael dos Anjos dos Anjos is I guess having his 40th birthday party like tomorrow or something versus Neil who's no string chicken I don't even know what weight class they're fighting dude oh they must be fighting 71 Jeff Neil's a 71 yeah 71 thoughts on this fight the that fight. Go on Jeff Neal. Hey Darien, how about tell someone to shut the **** up? We've got a
Starting point is 00:52:05 big time show going on. A total. A total. Uh that's not a girl. That is a salon. I hear a girl's voice. Yeah, you know, it's it's someone's mom. No, yo, you're crazy, dude. Rafael De Santos is going to bed. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna that freaking Roushkov ate every one of those and then put them to sleep but still I say I say Jeff Neal all day you don't think um Rafael dos Anos is gonna just take him to the ground early and just put him out I'm gonna well here's
Starting point is 00:52:54 my prediction first round they're dry Rafael gets on top of them and puts him to sleep I don't know Jeff Neal is a mean bad dude. You know him No, I'm just saying I watch him play. Okay, there's this early. Oh, yeah, if I knew it No, if I met him you I'd whoop his ass but uh But everyone else no, yeah, he would he's he's a tank dude and he throws with ill intentions I mean Rafael dos Santos is good, but He's going to bed Tyson why do you have Jeff Neal Jeff Neal is like And he throws with ill intentions. I mean, Rafael dos Santos is good, but. He's going to bed. Tyson, why do you have Jeff Neil?
Starting point is 00:53:28 Jeff Neil is like he's like a what's it called? Like he's a he's a someone who like guards like the top 10. He's not even like what's he ranked Jeff Neil? He's probably ranked like 15 or 12, I think. Yeah, he's I mean, Rafael is a former champion. This and he's at the end of his career doesn't he have to win this No, why he can retire he can get knocked out and just retire The reach is crazy He's ranked he's ranked number 10, you said, Caleb?
Starting point is 00:54:09 Yep, number 10. Hey, how close was your fight with Ian Gary? You went the distance with him, right, Darian? Yeah. How close? Did you ever see the scorecards? I'm sure I have them screen-shotted in my phone. Because I guess that was Jeff Neal's last fight against Ian Gary
Starting point is 00:54:25 It went the distance now Jeff Neal's last fights with Roshkov But yeah, he fought Ian Gary before that and yeah, what's the distance? Yeah, it went the distance God wouldn't you love to fight Ian Gary again, please just one chance. I just need one chance. That's it I'll put him in the bed this time. I thought you were gonna kill him. You were doing so good. I Need one more chance All right Last question has nothing to do with the UFC Tyson the Last year you had a game where you played against the Heisman Trophy winner
Starting point is 00:55:03 Bryce Young. Yeah. And that was kind of a trippy game that probably never happened in history of football again, where the Harlan Trophy winner and the Heisman Trophy winner play each other in the NFL. You won that game. And then recently he was I think they pulled him out. He's been benched, right? Yeah. Any any thoughts on that? I think they pulled him out. He's been benched, right? Yeah. Any thoughts on that? Any thoughts, by the way, too, like what it means to be a young player in the NFL,
Starting point is 00:55:31 just anything like that. What are the implications of that, a Heisen Trophy winner being benched? Yeah, I mean, I think it's tough. I think it just shows how different of a game college football and professional football is. And there's no telling telling especially at the quarterback position who's going to succeed and who's not going to succeed and I think you figure that out every single year so essentially you're just taking an
Starting point is 00:55:54 educated guess on who you think what skill set could fit you know what you're doing as an offense and as a football team sometimes it meshes sometimes it doesn't sometimes the players terrible and sometimes the coaches are terrible. So you never have any, everybody could blame it on Bryce that he got pulled out, but nobody knows the situation. Nobody knows what's going on behind closed doors. So it's tough. Yeah, it's tough.
Starting point is 00:56:19 And I mean, they pulled him in, they won a game, but they're not really doing it. They're still not doing too doing too hot so thought a lot about just the luck of the situation i think personally all right coming from one of the hardest workers in all of sports hey guys thank you so much appreciate you guys i'll be thinking about you guys have a safe flight tyson appreciate you having us on brother nice to meet you nice to meet you tyson brother appreciate you, Tyson, brother. Appreciate you guys. We'll do it again boys. Thank you so much You guys make my show you guys make me relevant. I love you guys. Thank you so much. Love you, brother All right. Ciao Daring weeks Tyson Bajan
Starting point is 00:56:59 On the 7 podcast, holy shit Bryson is starting this week for the Panthers Yeah, the starting quarterback got injured in a car accident. Oh no shit. Yep. Hey dude, let me ask you a question, please Did it sound like I know about did I host for 50 minutes did you think for a second I know I knew about sports It seemed like I know I think you get sports ball pretty good. No You think I pulled it off like people like if you'd never seen the show you're like, oh, yeah this guy knows about sports Yeah, I think so. I think you did. Okay Okay You started like naming submissions and stuff that was cool
Starting point is 00:57:41 You know the lingo I want you to record the call that you have with your wife about the show we did. Oh man, Seba made us look like jackasses with Darian and Tyson on. Oh dude, you do a really good job. All right, good. All right, I still have to pressure you a little bit. I put you in a choke hold.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Now I did a good job. Fuck! Carol! What's up girl? Oh look, Seema boobs. I was convinced. All right. There you go. She not a sports ball chick. She not a sports ball. I don't even know that term. What is sports ball? It's just like a joke. Like people who don't know sports call it sports ball. Oh. All right. In four minutes I think J.R JR Howell and Taylor Self are coming on with Shut Up and Scribble.
Starting point is 00:58:28 I'm excited for the fights tomorrow. I think we have a... Will you be on Tomorrow Morning Show? Yeah. All right. I don't think we have a guest tomorrow. So it'll be me and Tyson. Me and Tyson. Me and Caleb. Dude. Oh, no, we have Kill Taylor tomorrow. Oh, yeah. Dude, oh no, we have killed Taylor tomorrow. Oh, yeah Oh, yeah, look I even wore this shirt because of that. Oh, yeah damn All right, what time is that one can be tomorrow, uh 8 a.m
Starting point is 00:59:02 Oh, okay. So during the ufc But not during the main car because it's early main card. Yeah, we'll finish early. There's something else I wanted to ask you. I can't remember. I'm here, what'd I miss? Good to see you. Alright, Caleb, thank you. Thanks everyone for tuning in. I'll see you guys tomorrow morning, 8am Pacific Standard Time. Kill Taylor. And then, just so you know, in three minutes, Taylor and JR will be live. Talk to you guys soon. Bye bye. No work today?

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