The Standup with ThePrimeagen - Airbnb Redesign? URLs are dead?

Episode Date: May 23, 2025

ssh terminal.shop Timestamps: 0:00 – Intro & Time Zone Debate 1:27 – Meet Dax: New Guest Introduction 2:29 – Elizabeth Holmes' Partner Starts a New Blood Testing Company 7:56 – New Pretty URL Browser: Scam Risks & Usability 13:39 – Are Clean URLs Safer or More Deceptive for Normies? 15:52 – Dax Rants About Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky 21:07 – Why Airbnb Experiences Might Fail 25:00 – “Trash is a Flat Earther?” 30:16 – Absurd Airbnb Quotes About Steve Jobs 34:00 – Coinbase Hack: $20M Bounty Instead of Ransom 35:44 – Closing Roast: Founders With “Show Muscles”

You know how it goes. Why can't I hear you? Oh, um, am I? Because I'm stupid. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh, anyway, sorry. We should just do one time zone in the U.S., like Beijing time. Yeah, it should be Pacific time.

Do you only have one time zone? Yeah, yeah, I think so. I mean, that would just make everything easier. I think, like, I think that they just do Beijing time, as if, if I remember correctly. But, like, everyone eats lunch at, like, a different time, basically. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, right. I mean, you just know that, like, 2 p.m.

It's kind of weird. It's not weird. Tresh, you already don't eat dinner at the same time as everyone else. Adam's eating dinner at 4 p.m., brushing his teeth and going to bed. Like, it doesn't matter. What time is Adam go to bed? Like, actually. Is he, like, really going to?

I don't know, but he brushes his teeth at 4.30 p.m. And the average thing guy at works. What? It's messed up. Not only that, it's, like, such a hurdle for him that once he brushes his teeth, he just refuses to eat anything. Yeah, you can't brush your teeth like that. Even vegan food.

We were at a restaurant that had vegan options. And he's like, guys, I brush my teeth. And we're like, you can do it again. It's not going to work out this time. Theon donuts are way crazy. Hey. Hey. Hey.

Hey, hi. Hey, hi. Hey, hi. Hello. Guys, we have an action-packed today today. And we have a new set of guests on today. And by a new set, I mean just Dax. Now, yeah.

I officially stated that he is better than trash. Is this true? We're going to have chat vote at the end. Dax is a good following. It's not fair. We're going to have chat vote who to vote off. Yes. And I'm going to be permanently banned from the stand-up.

It's true. So, chat, at the end of this, we'll do, we're going to do a poll if you like Dax or trash. And whoever loses not only has to leave the stand-up, I'm going to go back through the previous YouTube videos and blur out their face. So trash loses, he's like. He's gone forever. Okay.

Gonna put a canceled sticker on him for each one. Yep. Okay. Everybody ready to do this? So we have a spicy one today. And I just wanted to start off with what I consider the greatest thing that I've ever seen in my lifetime, which is there is a new URL browser. But before I guess, oh, I should do an intro, right? Hey, everybody, this is the stand-up.

I thought we already did the intro. We did not do it properly. This is the stand-up we have with us, Dax, T.J. and trash death at the end of this, we're going to determine who actually has to leave the stand-up permanently, whether it be trash or Dax. But before we begin, I want to, or actually, now that we can't begin. I can't tell if this is a joke, and it's stressing me out.

It's not a joke. There is no way you didn't already do the intro, though. Okay, maybe I already get the intro. I could remember. Okay, hey, take it out. Take it out. Josh, take it out. All right, so I was going to say we're going to talk about URLs,

but we're going to actually start with the better one. Are you ready for this? Dax? I want to hear your opinion right away on this. Okay, this is the most important part of it all. You may not be able to see this unless if you're in on the stream. But Elizabeth Holmes partner has a new blood testing startup. That's right.

Elizabeth, who has been known for scamming medical stuff based on blood startups, has now officially started another blood startup. Are you ready for this? Is this going to actually happen? Has tech reached its pinnacle ridiculousness that if you start an AI company, and it doesn't matter who you are, you get millions of dollars of funding. I think it's a great idea off the bat.

That's what I'm going to say. Okay, look, who in the world has thought about blood testing more? Probably her, and she's like in jail. Yeah, she's in jail, right? I'm saying she knows everything she's done wrong. I'm sure every day of her life, she was probably like,

if only I did this one thing different, the one thing being not the fraud. Like she probably has learned her lesson, right? It was a big lesson. Yeah, what prime? You don't believe in second chances, dude? Yeah. Oh, from meth to Netflix guy.

Oh, really? He doesn't believe in second chances. So what I don't know is I don't know the recidivism rate on scamming people when it comes to blood testing or when it comes to medical testing magic software. So I don't know if it's 100% or zero. It's going to be 100% if you don't support this is the point here. Yeah, Prime jails for rehabilitation, dude. Come on. Let her rehabilit.

her self and put herself back in a good spot. Look, what's a chance she's going to do it again? Okay, I feel like none of the chances she's going to do it again. But how do you do this for jail? That's my question. I don't get it. They have cell phones track. You can call.

But don't founders, like, aren't they 24 or seven on? Like, she has like five minutes? It's her partner's thing. But I'm sure they're talking about it. This is what none of us are saying right now, which is how do you feel being that Evan fella? I think that's his name. Where even your.

company is described as Elizabeth Holmes partner and not him like to just get in wrecked out there. Dude, that's how I feel about Terminal. It's always, it's Prime's coffee company. That's such a good point. All right, let's get the point of you there. Sounds like Dax has something to say. So this is why Dax is actually bitter about this whole situation and supporting it.

Now it all makes sense. He's doing all the work. He just wants Elizabeth Holmes to have a second chance, T.J. That's all. I'd say it has nothing to do with something. else. I'm just saying it's only a, it's only a, I feel like it's a win-win scenario, right? She either has learned from the situation and she does the best company of all time, or she scams again, which would just be so funny.

Oh, not financial advice. I'm just going to support this. I'm just here for the content. Either the comeback story of a lifetime or the scam of a lifetime. It'd be so good. What country does she have to move to if she does do this, though? Like, is there like a place you can move to that after you, scam for a second time. You don't.

I'm pretty sure that's called double jeopardy. She can't go back to jail for it. Yeah, you're right. That's legally correct. I thought everyone just goes to Russia or something when I do something. Is that your plan? Isn't that what like, I don't know, all the cyber terrorists do? I have no idea. I guess Snowden

is a type of a different situation, but I guess he went to, he went to Russia. I love the trash. Is that what all the criminals do, just go to Russia? Who's what I'm saying? I'm just talking about some movie that you watched. Like, is this real life for your...

I saw this is the born identity, dude. I'm not actually sure if I'm referring real life or not, but I'm pretty sure someone has gone to rush after he's done something bad. Mission Impossible 4 through 7, dude. Like, obviously, have you not learned anything? Yeah. Is she banned from doing...

Because I know sometimes you get in trouble like this. You get banned from industries. Like, literally... How do you get banned from industries? Can you explain that to me? Like, how does an industry say, hey, you're not allowed to make medical startups.

I thought that only happened if you have like a professional licensure kind of situation. It might be something like that but like getting disbarred. Yeah, when people get in trouble with the SEC, like who is, I forgot the,

I forgot the guy's name. He's super rich. He got in trouble with SEC. No, not that guy. It's a different guy. And they banned him from like managing other people's money. But he's so rich that he just manages his own money now and he still does the same thing.

Epstein. That's awesome. I don't think it was FC. Okay, okay, just check. Someone is vacuuming right now. Yeah. Who is vacuuming? This is a stand-up, okay, people?

Dax, is that? Leave it in. Leave it in. Leave it in. I want to hear that, dude. Anyways, okay, we can move on. Dax. What do you think about this?

I just want you to look at it. I can't see it's so blurry. It's the URL thing. It's the URL thing. There's a new thing, a new browser, the modern browser. States that browsers should stop putting in the dates and the full URL. It should display it beautifully. Whereas there's space is in between the slashes.

There's space is in between the words. It URL decodes. It's fantastic. It can even live through vacuuming sounds in the background. It is like amazing. Close your door. I'm going to get both. The door is closed.

That's what's crazy. The worst part is. Trash is still going to get voted off. Guys, please don't. Can we just tie it at the... It's going to lose to a vacuum cleaner. You know, that's fair. That's actually like, you know, kind of makes sense.

Trash's normal, expected behavior. Like, yeah, I lost to the vacuum cleaner again. It makes sense. The first time. On paper, it makes sense. Okay, Dax, give us your opinion. We'll take out the vacuum in post. My issue with this is I don't think they're...

Well, one, I don't like them messing with the URL. But also, I don't think what they did looks better. It looks worse. Are you just laughing the vacuum? I'm laughing because we can't hear it until you talk. And then your, like, your attack and your release allows the vacuum to come in again. I'm going to, I'm going to tell them to, I'll be, I'll be back in a second. Oh, oh, you got your, it's your cleaners.

Okay. But Dax is silicate valley. Dude, that's a real start up there. Oh, wait. That's a founder. That's a founder. Founder mode, engage. You hear it Dax to round.

They're listening. They're listening to the stand-up anyways. So they heard you say you're going to tell them to stop. So they stopped. It's everywhere. It's everywhere right now. Like, we're bothering Mr. Dax. We have to be quiet.

He may more than make so cold. It's founder Dax. Sorry, okay, okay. All right. So I have a real statement on this one. So do I. Which is the liability of trying to make your own pretty URL printer. is just insane.

Like, think about how many engineering hours are going to be sunk into the fact that nobody has, like, a standard format in which they do URLs. And you're just going to, like, drop. And, like, if someone names an article 2025, it'll probably be dropped because they'll be like, ah, that's a date.

We don't display dates. And it's just, like, slash. And you're just like, what the heck's going on? Why would you ever want to implement this? This just seems like a disaster from the beginning. Is it AI powered? Is it 2020? How else do you raise money, Dax?

What are you talking about? I have an actual statement. I have an actual statement. Okay, Trash, let's hear yours. As soon as I saw this, I was really worried about my parents because I think they're kind of smart enough to tell when you're all's kind of fishy, like, when they're like super long and ugly. But like if someone like prettifies that, I mean, like, I'm not sure like if they can predify like, you know, I don't know. But like if it looks good, my parents are like, I don't know.

But, like, if it looks good, my parents are going to click it. So I'm kind of, like, worried about that scenario where it just looks good. And like, oh, like, it can't be fake because, look, it looks pretty. So that's, like, my initial reaction to that, but I don't know. Do your parents like using experimental browsers? I'm pretty sure my parents will use anything if you give it to them. And that's my concern. My dad will, like, text me every day.

What's my password? Which is kind of ironic. And, like, why would I know that? But it's just like, Or he's like, does he also only use one? I'm not going to answer that for their sake. Your dad and you,

you're not going to answer that question. So Trash has multiple passwords memorized, but they're different people. I love that trash is actually embodying one password as well. He has somebody else's password manager. Well, my parents aren't going to remember it, so I got to help them, okay? There's a long heritage of this in the trash family.

See, it's not my fault. It's my parents' fault. I was raised like this. that is so dang good but i just i think dax makes a really good point which is that um your parents aren't going to use that experimental browser that's it you don't ever say never i'll tweet about it i would be more worried about receiving a text message letting them know their uPS package is late and that they need to pay a fee that would probably be a much better like scam that's a better i almost fell for that i did fall for that i've never fallen for that so

Like, as part of the stand-up, hey, everybody, here's my kid. I got to, I'll be right back. It's an authentic stand-up experience. I thought that was like an... You thought that was just like an animation? I thought it was like, I looked at it and I was like, whoa, that's crazy. I was like, oh, is that a real person? Is this how this usually goes?

Dude, we're about to get in so much trouble, Primes breaking child labor laws, kids at the start-up. We got vacuuming. We got kids in the background. I want to what's happening. That was crazy. The animations for your backgrounds are wild right now, Prime. What do you mean? Child.

Yeah, how did you get that kid to show up in your background like that? AI. It's always AI. Every single time. Okay, I'm just going to throw it out there. I hate it, the URL thing. But, like, Normies are going to get tricked by, like, subdomains. They get tricked by, like, the, by URLs being long and, like, looking different.

And, like, is it not, like, how? highlighting what the actual domain is, right? So you see like, oh, it's actually Google. It's not Google. Dot my supersediscreetersgame.com slash, little, other stuff, right? Like, it, Normies don't know anything about URLs. I hate that we would hide URLs from people, right? Like, I think it's bad because I think it's going to, like, destroy the internet maybe.

But for Normies, it actually seems like they don't know how to read URLs anyways, and they get tricked and everybody uses social. engineering and get them tricked with that. I don't know. Yeah, that's a good point. Maybe this ends up being harder to scam people with. I just don't like the way it looks.

I think it looks weird. Yeah, well, it's also kind of ugly. I'm with you. Like the slash and then like the spaces. I don't know. Maybe I'm just used to looking at normal girls, but I just, they're like, it looks so much better. But I don't think it looks better.

I mean, it's like a common human reaction to like react to something you're not used to negatively, right? So maybe we all activate. Shut on trash. What? Anybody say that and I hate it. What? But?

He was just yank in your chain. He was doing the thing that you were talking about. Yeah. He doesn't get it. He still doesn't get it. I literally don't get it. You said people don't like it when they get exposed to something new. And then we all said like, oh, that's a terrible idea.

I've never heard anyone say that. See how that's the same thing. Yes. That you're saying. There you go. It's not as funny now. Yeah, it's not funny. You have to explain it.

I still don't think he gets it. I get it. I get it. And I'm not going to explain it. I'm not going to explain it back. First off, it's 9 a.m. my time. Okay, I haven't had my coffee yet either. Yeah.

For break of day, 9 a.m. You know what? Oh, speaking. The life of a Netflix engineer. Wake up at 10 a.m. Check my slack messages. Oops. Hopped out of podcast.

Wow, it's noon. Better head down to get some lunch from the local Phil's coffee. And that's true. actually trash about to crash the economy the day in the life of an engineer video if you make that

you realize how many engineers lose their job trash like you gotta stop this right now I'm the beacon of hope okay that's all I don't know how but I'll I'll agree with you all right we gotta stop this crap

all right hey Dax Dax you come back to me man I don't know I'm well that's because you have all the opinions on this matter I'm just going to show you a photo. Oh, okay, yes.

Brian Chesky. I've been complaining about this man for years now, and it's really unfair because I just hate the way he looks. Well, first, who's Brian Chesky? He's a founder Airbnb. Okay, I'm going to go a little bit of rant. Okay, a little bit, a little bit. I know it's unfair.

Can I preface this? No. Just so there's like a reason. Hey, Airbnb is doing a huge change in their platform and they're now doing experiences and other stuff. Okay, Dax, go. How do you feel about Airbnb changing their business? I hate his face.

Anyway, I've always found him, because he's always giving talks and stuff, and I always have trouble watching them. But he did one, I think it was the one that made founder mode go viral. And if you watched... Oh, then I love him. Is he actually possible? If he watches an interview, he's always,

the whole interview is going like this. That's called cocaine. Yeah, I'm like, I've seen that before. I think I know what that is. Well, Dax is watching him. I'm doing that also. So I'm like, he's definitely on a crazy amount of cocaine. And then I saw this quote from him yesterday.

It's going to take me a second to find it. But hang on. I made him delete it because I wanted to get your raw reaction to this prime. I was like, do not send this in the chat right now. I want to get Prime's raw reaction to this moment. I'm very excited about this. It's all stare at Dax until he finds this quote. Classic stand up.

All right, here we go. He goes, I was basically going from room to room, just pouring out of this stream of consciousness manifesto, like Jack Kerouac writing on the road. I basically said, we're not just a vacation app. We're going to be a platform, a community.

And I'm just like, there's no way this just isn't cocaine. Like, is that just explanation to all of this? Like, the whole founder mode thing, Like, is that all kind of boiled down to? Drug use? Yeah. Yeah.

Dex, you're a founder too. You should know this. You live in Miami and you're a founder too. Like, this is standard founder behavior. Yeah, it's normal. I think what actually ends up really happening is that people complain that they can't focus because they only can, you know, like read or write emails for 10 hours a day, 11 hours a day. These founders, so they use ADHD medication, commonly referred to as amphetamines,

to pump themselves up even further. So they just walk around in this high. heightened state of just super intenseness for like 18 hours a day. I think this is actually just completely part for the course at this point. Yeah. Yeah. I have like a more reasonable take on the whole thing. Please, thank you. That would be so helpful. I did not know where to take it after that. Tax his take was he's ugly and he does cocaine. Okay, okay, okay. More reasonable. More reasonable, thank you. More reasonable in that. So I think what was interesting about how Airbnb started is they found this untapped supply that was pretty low overhead.

Right. I know Airbnb is pretty professionalized now, but once you get it set up, if someone comes and stays there for seven days, you're not doing seven days of work. You know, there's obviously something you have to hire people to clean and all that, but it's kind of once you get it set up,

it's kind of making you money pretty passively. And that was like a huge amount of supply that just came on online through Airbnb. I mean, that's why it was so transformational. people realize this was a thing that they could do, both on the supply and a demand side. And it seems so ridiculous at first because it felt like, yeah, why would people sleep on your, pay to sleep on your couch? So I can see how going through that made it feel like you just willed this thing to happen.

And they did to a huge degree. But this experience this thing that they keep trying to launch. This isn't the first time they're launching this. I think they'd launched this like two years ago. Then they kind of shut it down. They kind of launched it again. It's so different than the rest of Airbnb because like it's not new supply. There's no one looking at this being like, oh, I'm going to suddenly offer experiences now because it's still a lot of work.

Like you're still doing the work and you're servicing people, et cetera. It's mostly just kind of existing businesses coming on like just listing their stuff under there. So where Airbnb, the initial thing was like this crazy growth opportunity, which I think it probably is tapering off now. And they're looking for like the next thing. I don't think this fits in that same format. And it feels very force and they've taken a few swings of this already. I've looked through it a few times and I don't think I'm the customer for it, but I think a lot of people have felt that way as well.

So yeah, I don't know. I don't know where it's going. Yeah, I mean, I worked at a company called Schedulicity and their whole thing was to manage appointments for hairdress, hairdresser, like physical therapists. All that. Yeah, there's like, there's a lot of companies that do this. This is not the first or second or third one open tables yet another iteration. on this exact same concept.

It just happens constantly. And so it's like, I'm not sure if they're really, I don't know how big the market is because I think what they're trying to solve is SEO, right? You go on to Google, you search hairdressers, whoever's really the top couple are going to win. So they're trying to make some sort of better place where people can peruse things and see things and have nice ratings and all that kind of stuff and be able to manage all their different appointments. I just am unsure if that market is really solvable.

Then you have this whole entire other like orthogonal thing, which is going to be like plumbers or various kind of maintenance that they're probably going to all. also be attempting to capture, but there's companies like property melt that, you know, that have these huge, that they already have these huge networks. And it's just like, how are you going, how are you going to change behavior of property management companies that are using property management software and property this and property to use Airbnb to manage their, you know, all their stuff? Like that's just like a, it is a 10 year effort.

There might be robots before they can nail this one. Yeah. It's funny because a company I work for, they originally wanted to do this and wanted to build a single app that you book hair appointments, whatever, any kind of any appointment-based thing. And they realized it's impossible to build that network. So they ended up doing a completely different thing, which was building software to help these businesses operate. And that's how SST was born. Yeah.

It was mostly for hair salons because that's a thing that I'm an expert in. Yeah, that makes it. You go to the barber more than any of us, dude. Stop pretending. You know how? You know what? It's so messed up that that's true. It's literally true.

By far true. I go like once every three months, Max, do a hair. My wife cuts my hair. I go to great clips. Okay. Liz shaves my head sometimes too. Yeah, my wife shays my head too. A nice intimate moment.

I do it myself. I shave my head myself and then I take my glasses off when I do it. I'm like completely blind and I'm just like sitting in my garage. I'm sitting in my garage with all the shirt just like, you know, rubbing a razor against my head. I'm like, uh, I can't see anything. And then I go to like get her. I'm like, wife, come here. I need help now.

And then she comes in just, but, and she just, blast out laughing because I miss like so many spots and I'm just like walking around with like a cheetah head. I'm just like, uh, I don't know where the story's going to do an episode where you're doing that the whole time. I just want you to know. Yeah, I would like to see this. But hold on. So I'm booking something through Airbnb currently. I want to take my family like Joshua Tree.

Apparently like the Milky Way is supposed to be really good to see next weekend. And it's always there. It's like always there. It's in town. The Milky Way is in town. No, it's based on the moon. Like if it's a full moon, you're not going to be able to see it, right? But if there's no illumination, then you can see.

Is that astrology, track? No. I'm sorry. It is not. Go ahead. Okay? Okay. Don't get me started on the stars, all right?

I'll talk about them. Oh, well, in that case, I'm interested. No, no, no, no. I'm not going to look at it. Okay, so you're booking for Joshua Tree. Go ahead. So I'm booking for Joshua Tree, and I thought the experience had was nice. I didn't realize they had it before to Dax's comment earlier.

which I was surprised. I saw ratings and all these experiences. And I was like, oh, I'm like, how do they have all these ratings if they just launched? But anyways, like, from a consumer's perspective, it actually, like, changed how I was looking at places. Because I started looking at other places and I was basing on if I wanted to stay there based on the experiences I can do around it for the family. So I don't know if that's like maybe like another thing that could drive, like more, you know, incentivization to like have incentivize people to put going experiences on popular like areas. to like, you know, when you book something, you don't just book a place.

You always book something and then you do stuff. Like, you don't just sit at your place. So I don't know if that's like something to kind of skew to like specifically like popular areas, kind of get a whole experience. But I did notice it changed how I like used the Airbnb because usually I book and then I like don't think about it. But now I was like, oh, I want to plan a whole day. I want to do this and this and this.

And I was like, oh, cool. And it's all like one-stop shop. So personally, I do like it. Do I think it's going to actually transform their business? I don't think so. Um, so yeah, I don't think it's actually gonna, I don't, I don't see Airbnb like, they need to do something else for sure. I just don't know what that is, but, but to like, Prime's point, they're definitely like, this is the foundation of their platform and then

they're just going to like start adding different things, right? So, yeah. Why are you laughing? No, no. Every time I talk. No, no. I see everyone. Every time I'm literally, I'm literally staring at my screen. I look at, I look at, I look at Tejj, and then I look at Prime. when I look at dags, I see everyone slightly smiling, and I'm like, and I try not to reach, hold on, hold on,

I try not to read chat, so I'm like, buy something in chat. Someone saying something in chat. But then I can't because I got to like finish my thought or I'm just going to completely fall apart. All right, explain yourself. No, your thing was perfect. We could talk about that in a second. What is happening?

What is happening? And someone said, Dratch is a flat earther for sure. What? So out of nowhere. What does that happen to do with anything? Talking about your moon theories, that's why. Yeah, moon's fake apparently.

I just said I want to see the Milky Way on a dark sky. What I got from that is trash is abandoning his family of Joshua trees. I think that's a plan. Oh, sorry, Tresh. No, yours was reasonable. I apologize. That was Twitch chat 100%. I was like half.

Like, but I was still. know when you drive and like you do all these crazy turns you're like man i can't believe i just did those turns because i was thinking about something else completely and how to get that's basically what was happening while i was talking i was literally just staring at all three of you and i was like i need to finish my thought but i need to know what's happening i have never had a problem driving trash i mean the roads are i didn't i don't have a problem but i don't remember but i don't remember but i don't remember but i don't remember i just like i'll just drive and i'm like i just like appear i don't know if that's a good thing or bad thing like i just up i appear my destination and i just don't remember driving

it. And I'm not drunk, I think. Nobody was thinking that. It's a little weird. You went right to that, Trash. It's a little weird. I don't know where I'm going. I do also have a Coinbase founder. Wait, hang on one last thing on this. Oh, sorry.

I got one last thing on the Airbnb thing. So Trash was like, I'm looking for experiences for my family. Did you actually look at the experiences? Because I don't understand them because the ones there, I'm sure these are like just marketing things. but it's literally like get a taste of Sabrina Carpenter. That one was so weird. I cannot believe they put that on the front page of all their advertising.

I'm like, that is weird, dude. Mine were, I had reasonable listening. It was normal. Mine were normal, so. Such as. What's normal for you? Did you get a taste of Sabrina? I did not.

But I mean, you go to Joshua Tree. It's like yoga and look at the stars or see wildlife. Or if you're in where I live, it's like go whale watching or something. So it was like reasonable stuff. So I didn't see anything like suss. And they all had like high ratings. And I'm going to like, I'm looking at generally like popular places. So like usually it's going to have a good amount of choices.

I don't know where you saw Sabrina Carpenter. Is that like. On their ad. They're marketing. I didn't pay for it. So I didn't see her. Yeah. He didn't taste her.

He has no idea. But their ad was like hang out with Colin Kaepernick or something and like get a taste of Sabrina Carpenter like a bunch of weird stuff. Yeah. When I looked in L.A., there was like some, lot of celebrity tour stuff or like meet or like have to hang out with one or something. It's like cameo. Yeah, basically like cameo but a person, so even worse.

I don't know. It does seem like, it seems so weird because that seems like more of a thing you would do almost like with a hotel package or something. It just kind of strikes me as sort of weird for like Airbnb, this whole thing because you're like, you don't know. I mean, you're replacing hotels. This sounds perfect then. Yeah, but it, but like, because aren't the experiences supposed to be like always available and like all this other, it just strikes me as kind of like a little bit of a weird mismatch in some ways. I mean, I guess like it's good because they're going to, you're going to be able to book more things through there. But like, what I want from Airbnb is that I can like type something in of the stuff that I want and it like actually goes and finds those.

Like when I say that I want a waterfront one, it doesn't put me on the other side of like the Gulf. and not do it. Like, I feel like they have so much they could make better on their actual primary product. The Gulf of what? Like, dude, imagine just typing your family. Thank you, thanks, thanks, Dax. It was a great joke. You said, like, what?

The Gulf of what? Oh, America. I was literally going to, like, stop them and say that. But I was like, I was like, yeah. Well, it happens all the time. I feel like whenever I go somewhere, people just, like, aren't telling the truth about their listing or, like, all this other stuff. Can they not just have, like, literally an AI going to look at the list? and I can type in, hey, I want this many beds and separate rooms and all this stuff.

And why is it not like listed and sorted out based on my, like, that actually seems like I would like this experience. I would never use dumb hotel website Google searches anymore. And I would always book with Airbnb. If I could just like type in a free text response and they gave me back an awesome sort of listings based on my thing. Like that's what I want. I don't want them to tell me which yoga studio I can go to if I go visit Joshua to with my

family, you know? That's your fault. Yeah. Okay. All right, well, I got a quote. I want to do this. And, Dax, I think you already know this quote, but I feel like this is just such a magical quote. This is also from the founder of Airbnb in the same article, Dax. It's so blurry. I'll just, I'll just read it to you. He said this. Steve Jobs to me is like Michael DiAngelo or Da Vinci, he says, despite never meeting jobs. I feel like I know him deeply, professionally, in a way that few people ever did. In a way that only you, let's see, in a way that you only, uh, you only only, uh, you only don't. possibly could by starting a tech company as a creative person and going on a rocket chip. I think I was wrong. I think it might not just be cocaine. That's crazy. I don't have it. No comment.

I just love that quote to be like, yeah, I know Steve Jobs super. I mean, I never met him, but like, I know him in ways you can't. Better than anybody. Better than pretty much like besides for maybe like his. kids like I pretty much am like next in line that's a it's just you're right dax I don't think it's just cocaine that's that's a that's a ketamine trip right there my friend yeah imagine not only just like saying that but then you're saying it somewhere that you can like get quoted and put it into an article that just feels insane like I mean it's one thing to just say it like I don't know it's a meeting it's like yeah I really can connect with Steve Jobs me like I know I'm better than

anyone I started a tech company and we went on a rocket chip together. You're like, what? Can I get a quote from you? And you're like, I got the quote. I'm ready. You just sit down. I'm about to lay a deep one on you.

And then it's also like, would not Steve Jobs just look, take one look at their new product and be like, ugly, don't ship. Like it just doesn't seem, I don't know. It does not seem like they're spiritually aligned. Yeah. I also love the fact that a guy from Apple designed the icons. And in the article, sorry, I didn't take a picture. of this one. It was, he was just like, yeah, I'm not going to tell you who designed the icons.

He's a secret weapon. I'll just say this much. He worked at Apple. Like, that's literally what he's, like, just genuinely withholding someone's, like, ability to be known for doing great icon design. No, dude, you know what that means. What? Some, some random designer who worked there used, like, Open AI-03 to generate all of them. And, like, they didn't, they are willing to admit that they AI generated everything? Oh, it's a super secret designer from Apple. We can't tell you.

We can't tell you about it. Summer intern who knows how to use image gen technology, dude. Well, did you see the post that Guillermo did? He made his own flavor of it using AI, and it came out really nice. It did. It was great. He had even worked in a JD Vance meme. It was great.

Yeah. And it was just all AI gender. The whole animation and everything. And he like, to go to his process. I see, I don't know what we're even talking about. At this point, it's inside baseball. He just explained the whole situation.

You're on the inside now. Now we all are inside of the situation. He just explained it. I don't even know what we're talking about. What did he generate? I thought I was following that you guys were like, hey, he generated like an Airbnb like thing. And then you're like, and then J.D.

Vance, I'm like, I don't know what we're talking about anymore. one of the icons was a JD Vance face. And now we have a taste of J.D. Vance. Is that what, is that what you're referring to? No, I don't think they were doing that then. I literally have no idea what he generated. At this point, without a picture and words on the screen, I'm pretty much completely confused at this point. So I'm on an extremely tight deadline, unfortunately.

So I really did want to get to this. And so I just want to, I just want to say this for just a quick second, which is that Coinbase got hacked. I don't know if you guys have seen this, but Coinbase got hacked. staff got bribed and then Coinbase's response was that they're going to take the $20 million bribe and establish a $20 million reward fund instead of paying the bribe or instead of paying the ransom

just pay somebody $20 million to lead to the arrest and I just really wanted to say coin based. It's just so coin based right there. Wait, trash, you can make $20 million. They're in Russia, right? That's what you said. Dude, you already know where they are. I already told them it was,

me. That's not how you make $20 million. I'm Spartacus. What were the terms on it? Because it's like, dude, they could turn themselves in and they could get the $20 million either way. They uno reverse the uno reverse. You know what I'm saying? Turn it in my kids.

They still get the bri? They still get the ransom. They still get the money. By leading to the arrest. That would be next level. That would be a next level play. I will say, though, that is like a really good response. And when I saw it, I was like, oh, I don't really care much about crypto or Coinbase or whatever.

But, you know, when he said that, I was like, you know, I'd work for him, maybe. I don't know. I don't know. I think he should grow a beard. Isn't he like, is it because he's completely bald all the way through? He's just smooth. His head is completely smooth, so it needs some sort of differential feature on it. Most of my contributions about what founders look like and how they could improve. Yeah.

That's why SST is doing so well. SST's in black. Have you seen Jay? That's true. He's a very handsome lad. But it did kind of appear that his muscles were just for show when we were trying to lift things. And it's like, dude, those are show muscles. Why do you lift anything, dude?

Oh, no. I'm just throwing it out there, like, half a move the couch. Oh, that is the biggest burden. I'm just saying, like, pick up the couch, Jay. And he's like, ee. Maybe he just wanted you to feel strong, T.J. like and so it's just like oh I'm not competing with him

we're in we're in very different life stages at the moment T's just staring at Jay really really I mean he's a he's a handsome guy but that's all I'm saying that's all I'm saying Jay if you see this later sorry dude

we have to be done okay like I really appreciate this conversation but there's no more about Jay all right hey thank you everybody for being here I am now going to leave bye everybody thanks for

to stand up. Sorry that I had to end this little rubble.