The Standup with ThePrimeagen - Casey Muratori Judges Our Digging Games

Episode Date: September 25, 2026

[Sponsor] Linear helps teams track issues, manage projects, collaborate on docs, and ship products - and the crazy thing is their software is actually fast and a joy to use. Learn more: https://trm.sh/linear [Description] Legendary programmer and game developer Casey Muratori ruthlessly judges the digging games we made! [Hosts/Guests] Prime: https://thestanduppod.com/contributor/theprimeagen Teej: https://thestanduppod.com/contributor/teej-dv Trash: https://thestanduppod.com/contributor/trash Casey: https://thestanduppod.com/contributor/cmuratori [Sources] Trash Games https://qwerop.com Teej Games https://dig-deep.trm.sh/ https://gravel-empire.trm.sh/ Prime Games https://beatdig.trm.sh/ [Partners] Linear: https://trm.sh/linear Sentry: https://trm.sh/sentry [Socials] x.com/thestanduppod instagram.com/thestanduppod tiktok.com/@thestanduppod facebook.com/profile.php?id=61573286173150 [Other Places to find us] Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/01A062kejnXFkJE01bjN5J RSS: thestanduppod.com/feed.xml Clips: @TheStandupPodClips Website: thestanduppod.com

I did not realize that like Pokemon cards are unpurchasable. Like no one explains this to me because of course why, you know, I mean, I don't have any occasion to buy them. So like I go to the supermarket and I go up to that machine, which I'm assuming like you can just scroll through and pick the Pokemon cards. It's like everything just says sold out. It's like they should just put a giant thing that says everything is sold out because they don't, they list individual items that each one says sold out. So you can scroll as long as you want. There's nothing there, right? Okay, see, this is the trick with those machines.

This is why there's no loitering. Basically, they reset every 30 to one hour. Okay. You stand and put it to the machine or to the side because there's a camera. And then like when it hits, so people get the timings down and they show up like every, like two minutes after the hour, every hour. And then they just buy everything. And then they'll buy it all. And then it only drops so many.

And then it resets and you got to wait again. And that's where people start fighting because someone will come up. Yeah. Tap the machine and then ruined the whole thing. See? That was my confusion because Casey just said he went up to a machine and didn't say anything about getting in a fist fight. So I'm like, what is like, what did he do? Because I was at the wrong time.

Clearly, I was not in the time slot where anything was going to drop. So I was fine. I didn't get accosted. And also, look at did Casey come home with any cards? I don't think so. So there you go. They were probably watching. him from the milk aisle or something. They're like,

look at this dummy. They're probably like, hey, that's Casey. That guy was making fun of trash about his Pokemon card. Yeah, like, who is this idiot? I got cards for, yeah. What a hypocrite. Now he's off buying cards. Check this out. Check this out.

Okay, I'm ready. I'm ready. So these things just dropped. It's the 30th anniversary. Pokemon's it. Oh, dang. Damn, son. I got four more coming in the mail. Okay, see. Okay, so Casey, that's why you can't. get one. Just in case.

I know they're all behind trash. It is in the photo frame. That's where they all are. Trash, when are you going to get a, like, how much longer will it take before that entire wall? You have to clear out everything and you just stack Pokemon card boxes from ceiling to floor. I'm at that point. I'm already like trying to figure out what I'm doing next because I'm out of room. I got like a whole box of like cards right here that are just,

there's like 30 boxes in there. I don't even know. You got to get those little graded, like the graded display case. It says like 8.7 at the top or whatever. PSA. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. Also, shout out, uh, Big C. Big Z, she ordered me donuts this morning. No, no buckwheat shots today. Let me go get them. I'll go get them. Okay, okay. I went and got some of those crispy creams

and they were pretty tasty. The Pokemon ones. They were pretty good. Really? Yeah. I mean, they're, they're, go ahead, Casey. I was to say they're super, I mean, there is not a single actual real ingredient in these donuts. I mean, they are one, they're a single polymer created by some magic of chemistry, but they're pretty tasty. I do have to say, Kriskid for the value.

Yeah. Oh. These are your fancy West LA donuts. Yeah. Made right. I love how you just said for the value, TJ. I never want to be buying donuts. Like, you're talking about the difference between like 50 cents versus like $1.25 a donut.

And you're like, it's for the value. We buy crispy creams that are made from space age technology and polymers and, you know, molecules one removed from Lego plastic. Hey, welcome to the permanent underclass, pal. Like, we're all going to be buying Krispy Kreme donuts soon. That's going to be no fancy L.A. Donuts. Every penny I have is dedicated to tokens besides my Kris cream budget, okay?

So it makes a huge difference. Okay, I don't want to get left behind here. I have my kids' Trump account, Krispy Kremes, tokens. Like, that's it. That's all I have from my budget. Yep. Mr. Michael Dell's putting money in those accounts. Straight transferred that into my Krispy Kreme budget, obviously.

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You said have to do. That doesn't sound excited. That sounds like you're dreading it. I talk about that with my kids. Get to do. Can't wait to do. We get to do homeschool today. But sometimes have you ever said something along the lines of like,

like, I have to do this? Not because you are like, I am forced to, but because all of your desire and the construct of free will and society in you are forcing you down this path. Kind of like Dante watching the people hopelessly walk into hell to their appropriate ring because they don't even have a choice in it. Their own desires and everything bring them to where they are. What does that make the stand up?

We are being brought forth to the greatest blocker this year brought to you by none other than Casey Muratori. legendary blocker by the way legendary blocker Casey Miratory today we actually have a blocker and it is about this right here so Casey this is an opus 5.5 right built Minecraft

okay I know what this is about so I will try to set the stage here and this is really it's entirely up to you guys you guys are going to have to explain it because I don't know you guys were like okay we're going to do like you know we're going to make games We're going to make vibe-coded games,

and then you're going to play them and see what you think, right? Yeah. But there's been all this traffic on the Discord from Trash where he's like, none of it's working. It's not fun or it's bad or whatever. Like, he's saying all this stuff, and I'm like, I thought the point was you just put in the prompt, like, you know, make me, you know, Minecraft but better.

And then it makes it for you, right? So I'm like, what is the problem? This particular, I picked this tweet at random because just the latest one that I saw of someone saying that they just typed in make Minecraft or whatever. And so what's going on? Like, why, why, what's the problem? It does look really good.

You guys just not know how to use AI. Like, what's the problem here, guys? I don't know. It's a good question. I do at least for off that this is, this does look really good. Like, just this presentation, I understand why people get AI psychosis. Like, looking at this presentation, this looks really cream. You have a psychosis.

What do you mean? Why people have it? I think I have very realistic AI expectations here, DJ. Okay. Everyone else has AI psychosis. Prime has AI realistic. I do not have it. Okay.

I understand now. Anyways, TJ, how's that language you're coming up with? No, anyway, sorry, keep going. I say I have psychosis. I'm agreeing with me. I will say this. For like these demos, you notice, it's only like five to ten seconds. I would say that if I like,

wanted to mimic a game that existed already, and I say Minecraft. I'd also think there's probably a lot of open source stuff it could probably take from too. Mm-hmm. I could probably arrive at this demo fairly easily. Okay. I bet you, you know, it's not like there's only one functional part of this demo, which is simply some blocks on and it's only like two seconds. I bet you beyond that, it just doesn't fucking work at all.

Like, if I had to guess. Okay. That's my guess. But like to make like very aesthetic-looking things from like a glance, I think that's fairly easy to do, but the functional part is where it kind of falls apart, if that makes sense. I don't know if Tisha,

if you had that same experience with like, yeah, I would say the other thing is trashed. You touched on it, but we should just expand a little more. There's already a million open source Minecraft Foxel game engine projects that are in the training data that are like,

cool, I made Minecraft but race racing. And you're like, oh, okay. So for all we know, the implementation could be download the GitHub repo, open Minecraft, you know, and then put, put this. So I would say for certain like genres of games, especially like, I don't know,

the most popular game of all time. Like there's a decent chance that it's going to be able to pull, pull off some really nice looking like demo stuff there. As Trash is saying, you sometimes then find very difficult, like, why is it that crafting can't work or like as soon as I enter this biome it crashes. You know, there's just like stuff that happens like in post after this. But I would, I would guess that happens less on the Minecraft ones just because of the like vast amount

of times where we've already done this. We've built this one. People have like entire YouTube series of let's build Minecraft from scratch and see or something. You know, it's like it's not, uh, it's not unreasonable to have this. Also, it's kind of like, I don't know, like, Minecraft is awesome. I like the game. But there's also like it's a, it's a voxel game where a bunch of stuff works easily because it all fits in blocks. It's like actually easier to write than like some other, some other versions. The genius of notch, right, is he figured out a really smart game. Yeah. Okay. Gotcha. I also want to throw out there what Trash said, which is the hardest part of everything, is that even if you could say generate any game as beautiful as the game. we were just looking at, which is the thing that I find to be the hardest part about game

development is making it fun. Yeah, like making a good game that you actually want. Like, it's really easy to take a game that has been worked on by literally tens of thousands of people for the last 20 years and be like, look, it's a fun game. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. Very true and very obvious. But like coming up with your own idea and then making it fun is so hard.

It's like astronomically hard. I would say like, you know, it's impressive how many people these days can take great ideas and turn them into bad ones. Like, I mean, rings of power. Am I right? Chat? Anybody out there? We'll have to watch that show. It's like Amazon has the reverse power. They take the most popular things and figure out how to make everyone universally hate it. Yes, it's called the inverse Midas touch or the Kramer touch. Anyway, so there you go. That's what's going on. It's just really cool because nothing gets. you updates more than showing something off on Twitter.

Especially during model release time. So due to the fact that 5-5, Opus 5-5 just got released, Grock 4-7 just got released, what is it, Soul 6, all these. So now you have this thing where everyone's rushes to get out example game. And then a bunch of people who've had access

to the model early, all come out with like even more prepared demos. And it's just visual porn for the next, you know, game demo porn for the next, like, week and a half. Okay. And that's our life. It's perpetual.

Okay. That's like the new benchmark, right? Everyone's just like, look, I've put the same prop. This is the same game side by side. Like my whole timeline is literally that. Which I kind of ruined it for me. And I'm like, I don't want to make a game anymore. This is this dude.

Trash actually didn't prepare one for today. He doesn't have anything. I think the big thing that really what this is showing is that models are getting really, really good at remembering what they have already like stolen from the internet. Like that to me like this is like a really excellent, uh, like qualifier for how good it is at recalling things that already exist, which we should say, by the way, is like pretty valuable like for for regular programming tasks. Because it turns out, I haven't worked on a lot of novel problems in my programming career. Like I actually don't like if like they, if them getting

better at this is actually good for us. It shouldn't be like, oh, that sucks. If they get like, like perfect recall on every best implementation of an algorithm ever or every best practice for how to do pagination for complicated cross joins in a database or something. That's actually good. Like it's actually helpful because then they're going to pull back the best answer instead of a garbage to your one. I literally say that every time I'm at work, we have a problem. And I'm like, well, we can't be the first ones that have this problem. Go look on the internet. Like someone solved this before. And like pre-AI, we would just go stack overflow or some forums. Now we can just RIP.

Too soon. RIP, RIP, Stack Overflow. Mm-hmm. Is it like, is it gone gone? Like,

for real, for real? It's down to like, I think it's down to like 10 questions are asked a day. I think it's still there. It's not like the site is down.

Okay. I thought they took it down because there's just nothing happened to me. I think they left it. They just finally gave up. They're just like, you know what?

Pack it up, boys. It's not even worth it. How much is this yearly domain? Like, it's not worth it. Oh, I'm sure they're running off a $5 VPS at this point.

They scaled down. Yeah. Is it too soon to make a stack underflow joke? Or do we already do that? I don't think I ever heard one. If that's not already a site, we need to buy that domain. It's definitely already purchased. It has to be great.

You would think. One would think, now, wouldn't they? All right. Well, that was the side topic, which, by the way, that got me so juiced because I was so curious what Casey actually had to say about it. So we'll move this one into Dunn. Good job, everybody. I think we all did a great.

great job here. And so now we've got to go to some digging games. Now, I do want to be honest here. I think that we're going to have a lot of disappointment, except from from TJ. I'm sure TJ has an excellent one. But I can tell you this much, I have not put in the work that was needed to even get by not very good.

Okay, but last time you showed a game where the rain was like going up and down in a sine wave. So anything, like, even if you just showed something where the rain just went down, that would be a big improvement. And you would win most improved for me, certainly, at that point. Well, thank you. Well, Casey, the nice part is you are the judge. So I do think that what you need to judge, obviously, is not necessarily, like, how complete the games are. Great point.

Great point. Yeah, that's true. How fun could they be? Like if we actually sat down and took a lot of effort and you went into it and, you know, power-ups, whatever, or added to the game to make it more, you know, convincing. But it's what has the, in the rough, that's mostly rough. Can I just say, Prime, I feel like this is all, this feels like leading the, leading the jury or leading the witnesses, whatever it's called. Hey, well, what we really want to judge on. I mean, it is the potential of the game.

Not what's there. I don't think that's fair. TJ, you're absolutely right that this is leading the witness, but I would like to say I'm both judge, jury, and executioner, and so I don't care. Overruled. I feel like this is, so you're saying this is like little Jimmy, who's not, he is not excelled in school,

he's got his finger in his nose, we're like sitting with the teacher at parent teacher conference, and it's like, but he has potential. That's what you're looking for like, like he could go on to bigger things. I think Prime thinks of himself more as like a goodwill hunting style character. Oh, so which one is the janitor that's going to solve equation? Right, that's prime.

It's like he's writing the equation on the board and like he could have an illustrious career in mathematics, but like he's been busy this week. Unfortunately, I was actually writing the equations on the board, but then I had janitorial service to do. So I actually couldn't follow through. You know, it's like you can only do so much. You had to go get a girl's number at a, at a restaurant? I can't remember what happens in that. He's like, I got a number.

He says, it's like, I got a number. I do remember him saying that. I got a number. How do you like them apples? I got a number. Something like that. Yeah. That's Boston.

Those are the Boston accents. You guys like that whole movie is Boston accent. Did he say with a Boston accent? But it's a bunch of facking. You know, there's a lot of facking going on. It was very hard to understand what was going on. on there. Yeah. Anyway, okay. So how am I supposed to judge these games? You guys are going to show me some demos here? Well, I think trash probably needs

to whisper us inside of our Discord. Okay. The where to go for the URLs just so we don't get absolutely bombarded by chat and then we then I will change the scene and bring it up and we can all bring it up. So I have things I need to say before. I love that. That's a great start. I see TJ, I'm not the only one. DJ by the way. You're also allowed to have a preamble? No, no, but the funny thing is, is I've been working hard for like two weeks, okay? But this is what I, this is all I have to show. I pivoted. I pivoted yesterday.

So I'm going to show you a number of things. Let me show you my original ideas. Oh, okay. Great. I love this. Okay. Okay. This is good. And then we're going to show you what I pivoted to last night. Okay. And then what has just deployed like five minutes ago. So we'll see if that works. Now, then I actually have a game that I'm going to launch today. that I think everyone's going to enjoy, especially you, Prime, based on this game. You've been playing for a long, long, long, long, long, long. But this is not a pivot. This one's not a pivot.

This one's not a pivot. This is my ADD making a bunch of random things at this point. Okay. That makes sense. Okay, so here's the first one. Yeah, let's walk through specifically, because that will help me, trash. So the first one I'm going to share was supposed to be multiplayer for all of us. Okay.

I tested it for the first time last night with some friends. And boy, oh, boy, that thing was love. Flag City. I will say, Casey. There's no way you all are going to be able to play together. That's another one where a game. That's really funny, though. Where a game looks good for multiplayer.

I don't know. I thought Cloudfair worked out of the box. I don't know. So something happening with Cloudfair. I was using party kit. And things just went awry. We were trying to play. And it was just not good.

So this is the first thing I sent you. I was trying to make like a, I was trying to be nostalgic. Remember like being in computer lab in school, you got like a flash game website. You can kind of just pick random games just to kind of kill time and class. So I was going to make something like that. So I sent it in the Discord. Yeah. So we can't play multiplayer because I try to do that.

It's just too laggy. It does work. Okay. By the way. It's just, it's too laggy. Like I even had like a room code and it wouldn't even show it on the on the page because I don't want all the people to join. It turns out we just can't even play.

So that's fine. That's fine. So I have all these random games here. So it started off with like digging. And then I was like digging. And I was like, well, I don't know. That's kind of boring. So like in the spirit of digging,

I had something like a backyard pool where you can kind of just. Wait, can we pause, Dresh? You made us build digging games and then you decided it was too boring. No, well. No, I have a digging game. It's just not on this platform. I have lots. Dude, okay, that is how Minecraft got started, guys.

Okay. So don't, don't knock it. You might, trash might just have, like, accidentally handed you the keys to the next $2 billion buyout from Microsoft. True, true, true. I'm just show you how my brain has evolved over the past two weeks, okay? So I started off with, like, a really simple sandbox. I was like, well, sandbox is kind of boring. So I was like, okay, what about, like, water?

So you can go in here, you shake it, you can throw it. How are you lowering the bucket? Yeah, how are you doing this? You push them up. You just click with the mouse. That's it. That does not happen on my machine. If I click the mouse, nothing happens.

It does not happen on my machine either. You have to start playing in the top left. There's no start playing in the top left. Just as connected. Are you in practice? No, go to practice. I can't go to practice. It doesn't let me click on that.

It just says, I'm in, trash. You got to refresh the page. Refresh the page. I mean, it works for me, Trash. It works for me. I love the FPS counter for a single bucket of water. No, but every time I refresh. the page, it goes back. Every time I refresh the page, it goes back to friends. It won't let me click on anything else.

I, dude, I'm watering. Are you watering right now? Okay. Why is the bucket not going to the side? It is going to side. What do you mean? Okay, I had to click leave room. That's what happened. Look at this. It just remains correct. Why is it not tipping over? Why is it not tipping over when you move it? Yeah, yeah. Well, how do I know that I'm getting water in? Because you literally see it fill up. So, like, the more you move it side to side, the faster it will actually fill up.

Why? Trash, can you tell me why the size of the bucket is 241.2 milliliters? Oh, man, that was the bugging code. It's not even a full liter? I'm not even doing a full liter at a time. Okay, okay, you get the point. So that's the first one. By the way, that's like...

Shake it back and forth. I don't think that actually increases speed. it does i'm telling you i'm telling you it does i'm telling you but you can also use a sponge look you can do a sponge and you like fill up the sponge real water and you squeeze it well how do you get a sponge it's nice yeah how do you can go to like you can do if you there's like a reset button the top right and then it'll let you choose your tools if you look at my screen i'm okay yeah there's not i got it okay i'm sitting the sponge you see it

you see it you see it how do you see the buttons read the buttons You just squeeze it. So you just push and hold, just like the bucket. All right. Okay, okay. Squeez and then you unclick and then you just, so it's just like a little various tools that will take longer to do things.

And I was like, okay, well, I don't know if I want to do that anymore. So I was like, what other games are you going to make? Strategy here. Well, I mean, the strategy is basically how fast can you be effectively. And then so I was like, okay, let's make it a little bit harder. You already want Storecraft APM.

You already want Store Craf a PM. I know this is what this is going on here. Yeah, so I was like, Let's make it slightly harder. So I was like, I don't know. I'm Asian. I like chopsticks, right? That makes sense.

So I had a chopstick game. I like chopsticks. I don't know why I said that to me. It just popped in my head. This really thought process. So I have this kitchen prep games. I don't think that's true. Okay.

I don't think Russia's known for chopsticks. Anyways. I do love them. So I made this kitchen prep game. I was like, okay, let's see how fast we can, like, empty out, like, a platter. Originally, it was, like, sushi or something, right? I love how old your sushi is too. So you can throw these things.

So it's like, basically you're racing to see who can clear it out. Okay. So it's like, so this one takes a little bit more skill, right? You have to be more accurate, right? That makes sense. So you get that? 32 vegetables removed. It's a game.

So I was like, eh. I was like, okay, well, maybe we can go like a little bit. further. Maybe we can do like an excavator. Whoa. Okay. So it's like an excavator and you can go here. You can dig and you can like pour it out. Right. So it's the same, same concept, right? All these are the same concept of you having to clear something. Yeah. And then the time limits. So there's different time limits or you can go all the way. I like the excavator. Okay. I like. So Xivator is cool. And I was like, okay, well, you know, this is not something you can play like a lot. Right. That's pretty good. I was like, well, I'm kind of, I was like, okay, I'm kind of tired of digging. Let's

like do something that's more like friend slot. So then I made like a dung beetle. game and you can basically race to collect poop and you put it in your little thing here and you can go to other people's things and you can steal you can steal their poop too so it's like this like this like my my start going with the fun friend slap stuff so you can battle right i can't steal his poop he can like boot me or whatever but the idea is who can collect the most poop or whatever i was like okay so it's just like where i was kind of like pushing the models a little bit i was like let's try this and this is where the multiplayer came in so when i tried to play this it was just super laggy we just couldn't even i love that the beatos

walk backwards. They go butt first. I love the butt first. They're dumb beetles. That's what they do, right? When they have poop, they go backwards. Do they? Right? I don't know. That's a good question, trash. But they're going backwards even when they don't have poop, though. If they don't have poop, they walk normal like this. I don't know why the computers are walking backwards. These are all computers. I'm going, I'm saying the ones I'm watching are going backwards all the time.

That's cheating. They know something you don't know. I think they know something I don't know. I was like, okay. So now we're like, now my mind's getting in the multiplayer stuff. I was like, okay, we can probably get a little bit harder. That takes a little bit more scope. That wasn't too bad. So I was like, okay, let's like do a tow truck game. So here you have to actually use like WASD backup and actually like, oh gosh, I'm not very good. That's actually kind of a nice aesthetic trash. I'm not going to lie. This is a nice aesthetic. It reminds me of the traffic jam game where you move the cars around to

like set up the different puzzles. You know what I'm saying? You know the game. Oh man. That car is getting why are you not? Where is it? Why is it not picking up the car? There we go. You have to bump into it first, like a real tow truck. Okay. Yeah, see. See, so this is where it starts to get harder, right? Like, this is actually...

This is actually super hard to do. And I was like, okay, let's see what else we can do. So this is like, this is just, this is me evolving over time. Right, right. We're seeing your skills. This is good, though, trash. This is good. I know.

But why... Why... Slowly getting better. But why, like, did... Was it that you didn't think that you could do more with this game? Like, it seems like you stopped before seeing if there was a game here, though. In a lot of these. Well, I, because, like, for these, it's like, my kind of goal was,

how long could I see myself actually playing this game before I just forget about it? Right. But how would you know, like, clearly you could make a game about towing cars. I mean. True. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I think so, too.

But I think ultimately, like, my, where I went was I was trying to, like I said in the beginning. I was trying to make like a site of a bunch of mini games. Okay. You can kind of just pick something, kill some time, and then go do something. Okay. So they, that was kind of like the idea. It's like, like, let me get a quick five minute gaming session and effectively. Okay. So that's like basically where this whole site is. That's why there's so many different modes, right? So we have like this one. If you ever play like karate kid, there was like, uh, you could catch chopsticks way back in the day. Oh, yeah, yeah. Nice. So this is kind of like the modern version. So you can, you can catch little flies and throw them in your bowl. And like, there's gold flies. The gold

flies are like worth more and it's pretty honestly it's kind of hard to do so this is like where like you would have the camera's kind of not helping there yeah yeah it's not perfect it's not perfect okay yeah but but you see where i'm going with this i was like okay because i'm trying to figure out games that would be harder that would make people want to play against each other so it's like yeah there has to be an element of skill that makes it fun exactly of luck that makes it so that even when someone's not as good they can still win sometimes exactly and that's where my surprise game comes in later which you will see oh okay okay oh i like um so the rest of these like honestly there's not they're not too difficult like i made again this is

me kind of just testing the l-l-l-l-m to see what they could do you can basically be a goose and just like collect stuff and go against your friends to see how fast you can go like like i seeps um basically just see how you see how fast you can click a picnic or a picnic blanket or whatever So again, these don't really have like too much depth. It's just like, I was kind of just curious because Astrid just came out. So I was really curious like what it could do. And what I figured out was it was good at modeling, but not so much to code. So what ended up happening?

I was going to say that kind of looks like it. It looks like the code's very janky, but the modeling is like you've asked it to produce all these things and it did some. You know, it like it did a wide variety. They're kind of in the same style, but I assume that was a request of yours, right? Because you want the site to look. Right. You know, so that's, that's desirable, right? I think my computer is dying because of this website.

I love that. Gary Tans cable, you're going to burn out Gary Tans cable. I really can't do anything. Oh, my God. Am I back? Oh, my God. You're back. Hey, Trash.

Okay. The website literally just killed me. That's awesome. There's too much, there's too much 3JS going on. What I'll let me sure again? It's Tans revenge. It's Tans revenge, dude. As an expert, as a legendary game programmer, when you see this many models take down a website, what do you feel on the inside?

I mean, to be honest, though, I don't necessarily feel anything on the inside because it's been known for so long how bad, though, like, web handling of this stuff is. It's like you go to a 3D site and all of a sudden all the fans spin up for no really. You're like, what is going on? I don't know that that's, it might be, I'm sure part of it's the AI's fault, but a large part of it is just the platform being bad, right? It's the training data. You know. So I don't know. It's...

It's... It's... Because unfortunately, people made bad sites beforehand. Yeah. Yeah. I don't blame the AIs for things that I've seen happen plenty of times before, right?

Okay. That's all. This is the one... This is the one where I pivoted last night. Okay. Because I felt bad that I didn't have a digging game. And then we were talking in Slack or on Discord yesterday that we should have a digging game. So I started panicking.

I love for the last two weeks, we're like, dude, trash, digging game. Here it comes trash. And trash is all. So I pivoted last night to make a digging game. I do need to understand what was the digging game you were speaking of two weeks ago? Was it the platform that you built or something that you're not going to show us? So the idea would have been, so you know how we have like the pool game where you're kind of just scooping out water? It was effectively that just with sand and you would just have like a fork or a knife and it would just be absurd.

And you just be like clicking like mindlessly very fast to see who would win. But we don't have that game's not. It's not really I didged it. I completely ditched it. I completely ditched it and I evolved it into like these other games. And then I was like slowly realizing that the idea just was like, I just realized the idea just wasn't very good.

Okay. It wasn't very good. So it wasn't very good for a multiplayer kind of thing. So this, what I'm showing you is literally like the point of view of you in front of some dirt and it's literally a digging simulator. But it's actually kind of hard to do because it's based off of the game quop. So you actually have to... Nice. So you have to... Except for this... Big quop guy. Yeah. Except for this version. This one, this one's live.

This is dig.corop.com because there's actually... I'll share this in the chat too. Oh, wow. There's a lot of letters. So this one's actually six letters, which then we'll go into my next game. Just a quick question. Quick question. How come you didn't make it? How come it's not Q-W-T-Y-O-P? Because then it would have been symmetrical. This ER really makes it very unsymmetrical. It actually makes it.

So for my next game, it actually makes it a lot easier to play, which is one of the main reasons. Okay. Which maybe I can always switch it. I love this progression. Okay. We can switch you later. Again, I can always tell my LLM to change it. But for right now, this is what it is.

We're one English sentence away. Mm-hmm. So right now, Q and W will lift it up and down. E and R will basically change the angle. Oh, I can play it. Oh, okay, there we go. Can you see me now? We see it.

Yep. Yeah, we'll see it. You can see it now, right? Yeah, why are you going up and down like that? It's weird. I was trying to demo the movement. Okay. So Q and W are up and down.

E and R are the angles, right? Oh, I love this. You have y'all pitch and roll. And then O is like you're pushing it down. onto the ground in P's, you're pulling it out. So what you would want to do is you do W to lower it, and then you get your little angle in there, and then you push down with O,

change your little thing in here, get it up, and then you pull it out, and then you lift it. And then you move your thing over here, and then you change the angle. Boom. Nice, trash. So there's like different milestones. We have these milestones here where you can get to a certain depth,

and it actually saves everything in local storage, so this is not something you have to do in one activity. So if you're bored one day, and you just want to like dig, because that's just like to dig. Touch dirt. You know what I'm saying? You can dig some dirt.

You go in there, boom. See what I'm saying? You go over here. And then that's literally it. And so you'll, at each level, you'll see different things. I think there's like dinosaur fossils at some point. What do you mean you think? Well, that's how.

I made it. He doesn't know what's in there. I haven't successfully dig. Here, I'll go to my local version. That's a little bit deeper. So this version's a little bit deeper. So there's some things in there. You see that?

Oh, I do see that down there. What is that like golden rope that's sticking out? I think it's supposed to be a worm. Is it supposed to be a worm? It was all the same location in both screens. Okay. It's the same. It's a word.

It's always the same. I just made this. It just deployed just now. Okay, you know what I'm saying? So you can see it gets deeper, but you can see how you can get pretty deep in this game, okay? So I'm going to, I'm going to take it. I'm going to see how far I can get.

My goal is to actually get to the bottom. But it makes it interesting because you can kind of like, figure out get your rhythm with the with the shovel yeah boom see that so this is again this is like this is more of like those truck drive just like truck driver simulators playing simulators here this is literally just a digging simulator right digging simulator mixed with quap i can respect that trash yeah okay now for the actual game that i want everybody to play okay you don't have to play now but you can play later in life we have this new game oh gosh oh oh oh oh I love where this is going.

And you have to pitch. So Q is your arm. QW is your arm. ER is your torso, and you can lose balance. You can lose your balance. So you have to time it really good. All right? And then O.P.

O.P. is your legs. All right. Oh, trash. It's great. So you have to figure out how to... I've been practicing a lot, so I'm not bad at this game right now. That was a pretty good throw. I've been playing.

I've threw at least like 5,000 pitches in this game, okay? So what you could do is you can try to get, I think the highest score you get right now. What's the web address? Corop.com, Q-W-E-R-O-P.com. Everybody go. You can go on the leaderboard. It's a live-com domain for this.

I love that. It's a live leaderboard. So if you get a high score, you can actually share your score here and then go put it on Twitter or whatever you want to do. That's it. I'm getting jammed to figure all of this out.

No, don't use your L-L-L-Bs, dude. I will be so mad. But this game, So I made this game yesterday, and I was playing with friends. We were like, oh, man, this is, like, actually super deep. We were, like, sitting here playing it forever because it took me probably an hour just to get, like, a really good, a really good form. So, yeah, I see this. But I need faster reset.

I need faster reset. True. True. Okay. I can do that. Instantaneous. Okay. No click.

It's like a second, right? Or two seconds. That's way too long. I mean, I'll deploy that as we speak. No. It should be, you feel like instant. fall over, you should just be able to press space and it goes right back. Space just resets.

All right. I'm doing it right now. Wait, how do I throw the ball? You hit space. So that's my dough. So this is the game I want everyone to play. It's actually Quirapa space. Okay, well, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, hold on, dude, I have this. I know Prime. I want to watch Prime do it for, I want to see. I know, I know

Prime's going to like not, he's going to play until he can't I just lost a week of productivity from him on this one, Trash, thanks. Okay, okay, okay. So 602, I think, is the highest score that you can get, and I think we've got in 601. I cleared the leaderboard before, uh, what do you mean it's the highest you can possibly get?

Like, because the body rotation seems a little funny. Don't complain, just get used to it. Acclimate. Acclimate. Great point. Great point. Okay.

Okay, okay, okay. So someone, someone scored a 601. The, the fastest you can, throw it is 90 miles per hour and a strike. The more accurate the strike, meaning it's in the middle of the strike zone, the more bonus points you get. And then the faster you throw it,

the more points you get. So it's all about speed and accuracy. All right. So that's what makes it super, super hard. Okay, okay. But once you figure it out, it's good. Prime's addicted now. Yes, I do.

It is a great game. Okay, okay, it is a great game. This is an A plus. This is an A plus game from me. Yeah. Corop is, this is incredible. I just want to play it so bad for like an hour to get this like throw down. Nice, plum did it.

Nice job. People are cooking. Dude, G.G. Easy gets 90 miles an hour. He's cheating. There's a cheater. Casey, any thoughts? I'm probably the wrong target audience because I like, I hate quop games. Like, so this is like almost impossible for me to judge.

I think we should just use prime, how long prime. plays it for as the as the score for trashes game because that that's like he's obviously the target audience right casey have you seen prime do actual quop no i i didn't know that i didn't know that he was a quopper yeah a little quick quop okay so just to be fair i have not quop in like in any serious capacity for for a long time casey so it's going to take me a second to remember how to do this hold on okay yep yep hold on give me a second well he just got messed up on quorop obviously I know oh my gosh what is going

trash is messing up his messing up his muscle okay I think I think I almost got it back just give me a second yep got you one time me and Prime did there we both played one half of the keyboard what is happening right now oh gosh okay okay okay that was okay that was okay

yeah there we go there we go oh there we go. I'm still not feeling it. I'm still not feeling it. My my quaff skills have clearly deteriorated. Oh yeah. Look at that. Now this. It should. One more. Oh my gosh. We've got multiple

weeks of lost productivity now. Because you're just back on the quop train. Great repop is back. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. You get my gaming face. Which by the way, why I can't, why I can't do why I can't do gaming and streaming because I get the most intense face. Isn't that good? Isn't that good for game streaming?

Oh, look, did you see that? Sweet move. Oh, the bunny hop. Because I co-opped an uncontrollable about. Look at that. They don't call me twinkle toes for nothing, okay, buddy. Do they call you twinkle toes at all? I beat me this game.

Wait, you can beat twop. I don't know that. Do you not see how fast I'm going? You are going very fast right now, actually. Oh, no, oh, no, oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Okay, good recovery, good recovery. Good save.

Oh, but this is where I get kind of into that really hard zone where you have to now do the hurdle. What? Nice. Great. Oh, you don't. Oh. Dude, I had it. I had it.

Great one. Great one. All right. You know, I could get back into it, but I can't. Do you also play, did you play, like, sexy hiking or its successor getting over it with Bennett Fadi? I did, I did play, I did play, try to play. getting over it for a moment. It is getting over it is

really hard. You have to really get in there. I couldn't quite hit the same as Koff. Kwap was like naturally spoke to me immediately. Prime, great job. I know, I'm going to really get into this. All right, so what about you? What about T. Jim, do you want to go or me? I've got

I'm ready. Honestly, TJ yours is probably really good. TJ's is always really good. Okay, so Prime first. Yeah, I should probably go first. Okay, okay, let me send you guys the web address because I we can't have a bunch of people pile in so please do not share it okay okay so hold on let me get there uh let me just make sure that that last one has been actually kicked off actually tj could you go because i need a moment longer okay sure i've got two how about i

show my first one the only reason why i'm telling you this is because uh the the music would go on right away and it was a little too distracting so i had to i had to um take that what i what i'd love is for trash. Could you share your screen again and then play this for me? Because I think that would be the best version of it since it's your game experience. I think it'll be straightforward to play.

Dude, you got Gary Tan cable. You got Gary Tan. You got it. Yes, we can. We can. But you need to improve your USBCs. That's your problem. You got to go to Gary Tan.

I don't know where he is right now. Ask him what kind of cable did he use so that the AIs kept working. Well, the good news is that Gary Tan has Gary Tan AI. So you can actually go to Gary Tan at any point and go and talk to them. There you go. Go to Gary Tan AI.

Ask how do I make, what cable do I need to make the AI start trash? We'll wait for you. Okay. Okay. I love that trash made a video game. And the response is I actually have to restart my computer from play. I need to refresh Riverside, too. It's Riverside, Casey.

Hey, it's just me and you. How are you doing? Nice tea, by the way. What's you drinking? It's not tea. It's just water, actually. I'm sorry. Oh, I thought.

It's a fancy glass, but. Yeah, okay. Because I only get to see you through a very small window. Yeah. And so it looked kind of like it had a little bit of coloring to it. Yeah. I do drink tea in the same glass. I just don't.

I'm not right now. Okay. I like a good cinnamon herbal spice, if you will. Okay. That's nice. Cinnamon herbal spice is a go-to Sunday morning drink for me. I love cinnamon. I love cinnamon tea.

That's right. Very dainty, very dignified. Yeah, dignified. I wouldn't call dainty. It's a bit dainty. My favorite cinnamon tea? Cinnamon toast crunch. Okay.

Because that's CTC right there. Right. Cinnamon tea. The tea stands for toast. Toast crunch. Exactly. Tust crunch is currently restarting his computer. What kind of website have you built that?

It requires a computer restart. That is insane that trash's current situation is, I don't know, guys. My game went so bad it turned my computer off from the browser. He discovered a zero day in Chrome. Like, what happened? I'm actually super, dude, he's getting 502. He said 602, but I assume he's doing 502. I wonder if he is Cloudflare tunneling to his own computer and then told everybody to use the phone.

Oh, my goodness. You're probably right. He's not hosting it. Oh, dude. Wait, can you play the game while he's rebooting? Can you play the game while he's rebooting? Because if not, that is what happened. That is actually such a funny, it's possible.

I wish it was true. I don't think it's true, but I wish it was true. It's still up. Okay. So it's probably not that. Like I'm looking at it. I'm looking at it here and it's running. Gotcha.

Gotcha. I'm back. All right. All right. Trash. 11.S.8 PM. That's right. That's what it says.

That is what it says. One last migration. Gasura. Ooh, trash in Espaniol. I like it. Gotcha. Track anything. Remember everything.

Never lose an argument again. Time to ship it. Press space to ship it. it. Gotcha. V1 is live. It's beautiful. Now let's find out who really leaves the dishes in the same.

I see what digging means in this situation. The next morning. Walk with arrow keys, face evidence, and press space to log it with gotcha. Press enter to check your gotcha log. It's space to hold on. Oh, what did you do, T. Oh, no. Oh, no.

Oh, my, the dish pile. Oh, no. Dishes in sync day 41. The fork has achieved sentence. Or sentience. What? Oh, my guy. Exhibit A, the one that started it all.

Oh, my. I got to show this to my wife. She's going to love this game. Every cabinet door is open. The kitchen looks like it's screaming. That's actually pretty good. That's pretty good. I'll close them after the photo.

Maybe. Four boxes. It was on sale. Logged. The Tower of Consumerism. Tagged and filed. Oh, my goodness. Set to 74 degrees Fahrenheit. I set it to 68. A six degree betrayal. The numbers don't lie. I do, but the numbers don't. Oh, my goodness. So, Tinge, I'm curious. Like, because you had to prompt an AI to do this, did you have to prompt the AI with an explanation of what Trash had done with his receipts at. I'll be honest with you, Casey. I did not have to, Trash, go check some of the other doors, too, before you go.

I know, so I was about to go. Oh, yeah. Wait, what's this thing following me? Yeah. He's now on the hall. You're digging yourself into it. Oh, okay. That's cute.

This is literally a real scenario. I'm not joking, though, Casey. I think our podcast about the receipts app is in the training data because it picked some of the exact ones without me having to do anything. No way. Really? Yeah. Okay. Are we that important? Really common. Like, leaving dishes in the sink.

It was just like, no, no, because I specifically told it to go do a little bit of research on some of the stuff from our podcast and everything. So like, by the way, this was not very many prompts either. I started this this morning. That so, so you literally did. So the AIs now know about Trash's app. Yep. Yeah, Tresh, why don't you talk to her? Espoza wants to talk. Go, gotcha.

What will Basura do? Acuse, gotcha, or I'm going to dig. Basura dig. I'm just saying, I'm supposed to use deep side. As far as a. Dish pile. Presented the dish pile.

Exhibit A, 14 dishes, timestamped, geo-tagged. It's super effective on Basura's hole. Those are your dishes from your ramen. Basura is knee deep now. The whole got deeper. It's supposed to use the look. It's super effective on Basura.

What will Basura do? I'm running, dude. She's standing in the doorway. There's no running from this conversation. It's supposed to use. I'm fine. It's a trap. Basura fell for it.

Gotcha. Let's do. Push. Whoa. Export PDF. What is push notif? Push notification. From the app.

Okay. It's all the different things he can do from the app. I exported a 12-page PDF. It has a table of context. It's supposed to use counter evidence. Oh my goodness. She pulled up three years of text, sorted by date. But sorry is waist deep.

The whole got a lot deeper. Dude, this is insane. I'm kind of confused. It keeps saying the hole got deeper, but it doesn't seem to have gotten much deeper. it's getting wider No I mean the in the whole depth meter But perspective Oh the whole depth meter yeah yeah

Oh I was gonna paying attention to that The meter meter is just not connected maybe Yeah yeah it says there's a few See I'm getting lower Yep supposed to go to the bedroom Oh my goodness Treasure Look how big my hole is

You're in big trouble now Oh no The thing I like about this game is it's accuracy It's it's this is extremely accurate This is like a good real-life accuracy. That literally looks like my wife, too. Exposo wants to talk.

Go, gotcha. Oh, my God. So does just keep doing this until I get to the bottom? Yeah, yeah. I think, so then, right, so yes, after you do this fight, usually it'll say maybe I, instead of making an app,

I should make a game about digging. We don't have to play the rest. Let's just see it. I'm not mad. The bar is getting the whole depth. The bar. It did go up. It did go up. It goes up a little. Oh, I'm sorry. You feel that way? Bad move, trash.

Yeah, that's bad. Here we go. Calm down. Oh, no, that's like the most triggering statement ever. He's dug too deep. I hate you. Well, that's a little heavy-handed. Yeah. It hates Basura. Basura one. Oh, why? This is amazing

Gotcha, wow, maybe I'll try making games Well, that was a Yeah, I got to show this to my wife This is way too good This is way too good Oh my, I have no words I have no words for that That was poetry

Thank you, thank you That reminds me kind of of like the Pony Island sort of genre of games if you guys know I don't know I don't watch my little pony Do you guys You guys don't know

Pony Island You don't know the hex Do you know the hex I know Penn Island You get Oh God All right Dennis classic

All right Well fine You Penn Island You know Penn Island Yeah I know Yes I know Dresch

We're familiar All right Prime are you ready I believe I believe I am ready, but I just want to triple make sure. Okay. I just want to make sure everything. Oh, Casey, just for, just for

well, probably you're getting that set up. I'll just mention a few things about the game. So I started that this morning. That was all Opus 5.5. I wanted to test it out since that's what the original tweet was. I probably spent I spent less than two hours probably on the game.

How many hours did you spend thinking about it? I had the idea very early on after trash said a digging game. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, making one about him digging himself in a huge hole. Yeah, I like that. My wife thought it was hilarious. I showed her this morning as I was making it and

she was like, that's really good. I can't wait for that to go. So I knew I was on to something. That's called market research. Is anybody in the game? That's right. By the way, is anyone in the game? Oh, okay. Oh, did you share it? Yeah, I shared it in the standup. I just want to make sure it because yes. Okay, nice. I see somebody, I see someone join up. Nice. Nice, nice, nice. I'm coming. Hold on. Okay, awesome, awesome. Okay, so everyone, enter in your name.

Okay, hold on, we got to share the screen. Does anyone want to share their screen? I'll share. Okay, why don't you share? Trash is the designated share. Okay, Prime, I have a question for you. Because I really, I need to know the answer to this question. Every time, so all of the games that Trash showed at the beginning,

maybe not so much the actual hole digging game or the baseball game. or the baseball game, but all the ones previous to that. And then the one that TJ showed, the art was all reasonable. But every time you've shown a game, it looks, great point.

Like, I don't even know what I'm looking at. I can't even parse what is my character. What are you prompting differently that makes it so that it's unintelligible? What is going on? You'd be shocked at this piece of artwork that you look at cost over $500. What?

What happened? No, probably how, dude. How? What's going on? I don't, you know what? I got to figure that out at another time. Okay. I'm not an artist.

All right, but. But you're not making the art. The AI is making it. And why is it making pixel art that looks okay for, for T.gen, not for you. My guess is that T.J is using real photos. I didn't use any real photos, right? I assumed he didn't. TJ did not describe what trash looked like in English to get that good of a.

Yeah, but look. at Tej's avatar in case he's there. What is that? I don't know what I'm looking. It just looks like a big mess of, I mean, stuff. I don't know what's happening. That's a shadow. You only see your avatar and then you see the shadows of the other players. Okay, well, I'm ready. Well, they're going to mine. I haven't, I haven't entered in mine. Well, you just look at you. I don't know what yours look like. Okay, mine looks terrifying. Just in case you're wondering, mine looks very scary. Okay, I'm going to hear it. I'm ready. It looks like it looks like visual noise like it loaded an image wrong. It looks like the loader was broken or something. Doesn't look right. All right. So yours looks like, okay,

yours looks like terrible. I will try to explain what's going on here, which is that we have a digging game. All right, because I thought we're making digging games. TJ once again hit the, hit the pun. And so how it works is that a real digging game too.

Yes. As you can see on the side, there is left down, up right. There will be a song that plays in arrows that come up. Okay. Depending on how accurately you hit the arrows

is how fast you dig. Okay. Oh, I don't have to be. You don't have to. It's not that great of a song, just in case you're wondering, Fable did create it. Depending on how fast you or how well you hit the arrows is how fast you dig downwards. If you fall off the screen.

Yeah. If you fall off the screen, then you die or you're supposed to die, and it's supposed to be the fastest person going down. I was going to put in like other types of dirt that is harder. You could go left and right. All right. But all of those I couldn't do. So instead we did this one.

So I'm going to hit enter. Okay. All right. So now you pretty much just have to start. Oh my gosh. Is it WASD or arrow keys? It looks like it's a WASD. All right.

So mine doesn't register any pushes no matter how accurate I am. Yeah. Mine's definitely going real fast. So I'm just pressing down arrow and apparently that just works. Okay. So that's not supposed to happen. You guys are supposed to die. this is this is not working at all it's not working at all and so i didn't try it out

it's also not on the beat yeah it's also not on the beat dude i know it's not on the beat dude i know it's not on the beat at all also you can just keep pitting down you don't do anything okay cc but look the networking does work which you have to at least be impressed with that i actually don't you're not this is better than call a duty well that might be left and why is it that you move left and right when you hit the things it doesn't even make sense as a game concept. Like if I just hit left and right, I dig right and left.

What do you mean? Like, why would it not be that I'm digging straight? It's a dance game. I know. It's supposed to, so obviously it got a little bit confused. It put the arrows there, and it just kept the arrows,

but it didn't actually do anything with the arrows. No, if I'm saying it's doing stuff with the arrows, it's that when I dig to the right, I go to the right. That doesn't make sense for a digging game where we're supposed to go down. That was part of the original idea,

was that if there would be no I dug all the way to the bottom basically and just gave up I'm way down there. I'm trying to actually play yes so so the original idea was that you press the arrows that are coming and then each one of those would give you a strength of

how hard you get to hit and then you could choose your direction because there could be like rock and rock would take like 10 hits so you'd want to go around the rock obviously a pretty difficult game lots of arrow keys going on at that point. And so I decided just to go straight down. It didn't listen to my straight down instructions.

Instead, this is what we got. Like I said, didn't have time. This is where we got to. Yeah. You were saying last week you were all tilted at me that I had to fly back to San Francisco because you were so ready for a digging game. Yeah. I exaggerated.

Real, real bad. Real bad. I exaggerated. Very, very much so. Fine. I'm still laughing and I'm hitting all the thing errors. I'll show my. Oh, you made

TJ, you made two games? Yeah, he made an actual digging game, apparently. Right. I don't know how you're going to top that one, though. Good luck. I mean, you know. Trash, you share again and you can show it. We'll see how it works.

This one is way rougher because it's a much more ambitious project, but it does actually do some stuff. Okay. And you'll love the concept of it. All right. Where is this? Can you someone share a screen? Yeah, Trash is going to share a screen.

screen again. He's the designated. I don't think so. It has music again, but I don't think I added an audio slider. I didn't think about you have to share in Riverside and stuff. I can't read any of this is too small. It says new game, load game import options. Gravul Empire. New game. So it's it's roller coaster tycoon, but for digging. Oh. So, um, so trash, you can hit new game. All of the stuff. kind of it's too small for probably the size of screen here i didn't implement probably the right kind of zooming looks good on my screen screen etc but so trash you can start hiring people so you go to hire you get workers to come in right so then then you start digging and it's a big gravel pit and you're trying to basically build an empire to do as much gravel things as you can here you're

digging i made an actual digging game like it's about digging as well right you know what i mean so then trash you've got your workers right okay and then in the in the top right up there there's a little um the dig like the dig icon yeah that guy right there you can start planning out the spots that you want dug how deep you want it to be etc then these guys will come over there and then they'll start digging them or maybe not if i didn't uh if i pushed a broken version that yeah yeah yeah there you go that's that's a very deep that's a very deep i think you need to build a road out to them trash it's it's roller coaster tycoon they can't walk without getting to dig site right how much money do you have how come you can just build all this so easily

uh it's in your it's in your bottom left okay now what i made a road to it and they get to it you did no trash it's three d that's down dude you're yeah you're at to go to the like the little dry things on the top come on trash i've never played roller coaster tycoon okay yeah but you know how 3D works. Make the road go to the tile that it's on. Do more road. But can I,

can I just move this over? Sure, yeah, yeah. Tell them to dig somewhere else then. Or make more footpaths. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Trash, the top, the, the, okay, this is good. I'm tilted. I'm tilted.

I'm so tilted right now. I got it. I got it. I got it. I don't know if they can dig. I think I made it, though, so they can't dig that deep right away, Trash. You got to start like with them with a small, a small dig.

Yeah, they have to build to it, right? Unless I messed it up. They probably can't even do four meters. Why would you dig on the road, trash? I just want to see it. Do one meter. Yeah, probably maybe you should share a screen. This makes no sense.

Okay, now what? I thought they would dig. When I was testing, they dig now. Can I not remove these? They're hired. No, those are the people that you're hired. No, I'm talking about the Oh, maybe you need to put them in a crew.

Trash, try put them in a crew. I'll check, I'll check myself here. I'll check myself as well. All right. Pick up, pick them up and put them down somewhere else. I'll do that. All right. I, I am building.

There we go. There we go. I got it. They're doing it, right? I have to pick them up. Oh, nice. See, they got the same roller coaster tycoon situation here. They're not digging, though.

Is it the wrong time of the day? They're only supposed to work during certain times of the day, too. You also. Okay, this is way too calm. This is day crew, seven to three 30. No, no. You can also, okay,

so trash, it won't necessarily work right now, but see the little house icon next to the, next to the road. There's like, you can start building buildings and machines and,

oh, you have to give them, did any of them have shovels yet, trash? I don't think we gave any of them shoveled. Oh my gosh. What is happening? Okay. It's,

how do I give it a building game? How do I give them a shovel? I, this is fantastic. I love, I love the art style. Thanks. I need, I needed one more day to do this since I started this at 10 a.m. my time, which is three hours before stand-up starting. We can fire people. I don't know how to make them start, though.

I don't know how to give them a shovel. I'll set this up for next week, guys. I'll set this up for next week. I needed, I needed just a little more time. I need it a little more time. I like the music. Anyways, on potential, though, I feel like I get one potential grading, too. This is really good.

I mean, I like how it looks in general. Thank you. You're up. Talk to us. Talk to us. What do you think about this? This, I'm not going to lie to you guys. This is, this is pretty rough.

I guess what I'd say is, um, the only, the only game that feels like it could potentially be, a game, meaning, like, as it is, as it is as presented, not potential. So a fact of that temporary. Trash is pitching game, but only because the genre of that game is that it's incredibly janky. Like, the whole genre of quap games is that they don't really work. And so I'm not even really sure that's fair because, you know, that's, quop is kind of what you would get if you didn't finish the game code. Right? That's what quop is sort of. but intentionally.

It's like, here's, we didn't actually, you know, make it into a standard polish game. We just hooked up, you know, these things directly to springs on the legs and good luck, right? Yeah. So I guess what I would say is I don't know. Like, I don't feel like there's a way to really rank anything in this case. Obviously, Teage had the best,

if we gave out an award for narrative. Yes. Yes. It was a good narrative. That clearly goes to Tej for his trash parody. Thank you. Thank you. I just, but other than that, I'm not sure.

I would say if we went with potential, I'm afraid, I'm much to all of your... Sorry, what? I actually, I forgot. I have loaded scenarios that are halfway through the game. Can trash reload and show where my game is in a scenario instead? because Tracy, Casey, I got something cool going on in the middle of the game. That will explain what it actually is.

I want, that's actually part of the game. Okay. I need one more shot. Trash reload and then go to scenarios. Which game? Travel Empire, of course. Because I think I'm going to pull ahead a little bit, maybe after this. All right.

Oh, yeah, thank you. TJ, I'll add audio slider later. You do know that you're going against, like, my game, right? Like, what are you pulling ahead of? I want to see what I. My vision for the game of what I set out to do. Okay, trash, there's scenarios. Which, okay, we need to change the font size of this game too.

And then just click the bottom one, bottom play button. The bottom one, okay. Yeah, there you go. Okay, this is more where you're supposed to get to. Okay, just as, uh, you get cranes. They fill up dump trucks. You're automating more. It's building a factory inside of the gravel pit as you're digging down.

I just just at least show where the game's supposed to get to. Uh, before we get the rating. You know. Those two trucks just drove through each other. Oh my gosh, that truck just pulled right into him. They can do that in Roller Coaster Tycoon. Actually, they don't do that. I'll add to clue.

Sorry. Anyways, continue. What I was going to say is on the potential front, I know everyone is going to be like, what? But like, honestly, if Prime had actually made a game where, like, so two things. If you took the game that you had there, and it worked at all, which it didn't, right? But let's imagine that you actually did have to hit the DDR steps, right? Yeah. And you did a couple obvious things that you would want to do.

Like, for example, don't put the steps on the left. Put them under your character. Like, this is kind of just like Game 101 stuff, right? Like I said, it was a rough, okay? It was my idea. It was my idea that was really good. If he did some of those things, that actually seemed like the most promising game to me. Like if you're like, which one of these would you play?

Like, I would play that game. I probably wouldn't play any of these other. I don't like quop games. So again, I said, I'm kind of the wrong judge for that. Maybe that baseball game's really good. We'll let Prime be the judge of that because he, you know, clearly, clearly is the perfect judge of a quop game. So he will give it his thumbs up or thumbs down after 17 hours of play starting now. After I have missed several videos next week, I will be glad.

So he will judge that one. I unfortunately can't. Maybe it's excellent. So I'm not saying it's not. I just, I couldn't tell you. I didn't like quop. So I'm the wrong person.

The digging tycoon game, unfortunately, just like, I don't know, like, I mean, sim games or sim games. Maybe if you, like, I don't see where the like interesting part of it is that makes it so, like, I'm going to want to play that.

It kind of, it's like, it's one of those orgy games where there's like, 18,000 windows. Sometimes those come together. You know, it's unlikely that it would. You know, maybe the AI's really good at figuring out how to put those together. Maybe it's not. I don't know.

So I wouldn't give that high odds, but I would have to actually like see the finished thing and see if it actually feels good to like organize and does that actually, you know, because that's all that, that's what differentiates those games. So yeah, I, I unfortunately, I apologize to everyone, but I'm going to have to give to Brian. Which I would also say looked the worst. It looks absolutely horrible.

I don't know what is going on there. I'm sorry. He poisoned the well. He poisoned the well with the potential talk at the beginning. He did. He did. He swirped it all around. I would just like to throw out there.

You led the jury. You led the jury. I did. But it wasn't, but it's still Casey. He still gets to make his own decisions. Okay, unless if you're saying that Casey can't make his own decision trash, which I know you're not. Okay, first off, I just want to throw out there that I made up that game idea while watching Sophie Tucker live at Red Rocks. That was pretty good.

Got to see it for my birthday. Got to see it for my birthday, a lot of fun. And then number two, it could have been a good game. You know, if I would have actually had some time to set aside, I think I could have made it pretty good because I did the only thing I tried on was the networking. And that actually was pretty good. Like, I watched you Casey next to me, and it is all like time tracked about. does time differentials. And so we actually are all listening

to the same song at the same moments. All the arrows are in sync. So everyone should have been digging in sync, but screwed it up. In my defense also, I would point out that I think that judging things on their potential, like these are all vibe-coded games.

And the whole point of the AI hype cycle is to talk about potential, right? No one's talking about what we have. We're talking about what we might have. And so I think it is perfectly in line with the spirit of vibe coding to just say like, well, maybe someday this will be a big game. But think about this, Casey. If we would have taken my digging game. Yes.

If I would have like just got some off the shelf assets did a very little work or even try the do be better at creating assets. I could have created a demo where like zoom in on the guy. He already picked you, bro. You don't have to sell it to him. TJ, just listen for a second. We could have zoomed in on the guy, the beats. The digging. Things look super good. Go over to TJ's gravel one.

It could have looked so good as a demo. Like the demo would have been out of control. Like if TJ made a demo video, it would have been so hard not to say like this game is amazing. And so this is really what demo videos look like when you play them. Okay. This is just what's happening right now. Well, why don't you guys do that? Why post your after this post your Twitter feed like, I spent $5 on tokens that I made something 10 times better than roller coaster

tycoon and just show little like snippets of the thing. I would never besmirch roller coaster tycoon like that. I would never do that. All right. But I would say inspired by. Okay. All right. There you go. Thanks for the win. I knew I'd win. I knew I'd win. I knew had a great idea.

All right. I knew my idea was actually good. It's so tilted right now because he's like, my roller roller was great. No, no, no. I think it needed a few more days to cook. If I didn't have to, if I wasn't in San Francisco last week, I think I would have, I could have had a clean sweep here for best narrative and best, uh, possibility as well. Best potential. I'll take, I'll take one. So for next competition, we're just going for best ideas. But, but, but Trash won, like, best overall game, right? He won actual like a game that Fitchin's genre and was most completed.

Oh, for quop. Yeah. For quop. Well, I think, I think I had to defer to you, Prime. So you will, you will award that because you have to play it and determine if it's a good quop game. I can tell you right away, it's a good quop game. Then there we go. That's all we really need. I want to play it very, very bad. So everybody's a winner. Because let's be honest, like, I'm not going to play any of these games.

But if Prime is going to play the Quarop game, then that is an actual, like, you got an actual player, which is the- I know. I actually really want to go play Quab. So that's a sign of, yeah, that's a good sign. Dude, someone, two people got 6-03. I don't know if they're using computer use or whatever. that's insane. I love computer use

like Quere Up. It's like torturing the LLMs is so funny. What's your highest? Trash, what's your highest? 597. Okay. Dang,

that's good. And I've never been anywhere close since. It was like a fluke. Yeah, one of those magic ones? Oh, it feels good when you have a magic one. It feels like that's what makes

quop game so good is when you hit something that actually even looks natural and you're like that. That's a good game right there. I'm amazing. So for the core-up game, like right now it's like your best single pitch, but I might do like a mode where you have to actually throw like a strikeout and then whatever your three strikes are.

Oh wow. So you have to actually do it consistently, which is the harder part. Yeah, that would be hard. Because you also do the other side where you have to like lift up your leg, move the bat up and swing through. I know. I was thinking I wanted to like baseball. You know, you could have all three. You could even have catching.

You have to move your guy and try to catch it. Yeah. Trash baseball. Trash baseball. Trash baseball. I was going to do swimming. Trash. Trash baseball is true.

Sveed of all. Trash. If you did it where you did like each of the three spots, what you could do is you could record people doing their pitches, like send that up and save them. So you don't have to actually wait for someone to do the pitch.

You just like have a bank of pitches that people do. And they could get pitched to your batter. Right. So they're all real quop pitches. and then similarly you'd have people bat and then catch you could do all three async quality players the best pitch out there yep you just got to make sure all the data and everything does not get exposed onto the window objects so people quit's computer using and then just use canvas so they can't like they have to take images right like take away all availability for them to cheat we'll do my best all right we'll do my best okay well i'm gonna go work on my sim game and i'm gonna make it so good case he does want to play it next week so You're just so bad right now.

T.J. No. I'm actually not, though, because... I thought I was going to come second. My... My Pokemon-inspired trash game did exactly what I wanted it to do. So that was my main...

That was the main one I wanted. So that was a swish. I mean, I think you could make that one into a real game, but it's like there wasn't really much gameplay there. Oh, it's not a real game. It's just a joke. Yeah, but you could have. You could just make a JRPG where you have to try and...

Yeah. Yeah, they actually already did. that you catch these little monster guys and then they end up selling cards related to them too. So it's like... Yeah. Yeah, it's not like any of us have a crippling addiction to buying these monster cards either.

Trash, is there any kind of inverse relationship you end up having due to the Pokemon where your kids are like complaining that you spend too much of your time buying Pokemon's or playing with Pokemon's? No, they rip all the cards, basically. Okay, okay. They're supportive of your house.

My son has like an absurd collection right now. Okay. So you guys are, they're all having a good time. And it works out because when we go... And he draws school, Pokemon cards too. So we use them as birthday presents too.

Gotcha. Bye-bye. Good game, everybody. Good, good game. Good games. Absolutely loved it. Okay. Thank you for watching the stand-up.

Thank you, the legendary game programmer, Casey Muratory, for telling us exactly how quality our games were. Vigo errors on my screen Terminal coffee and him