The Standup with ThePrimeagen - Trash Made a Black Mirror App

Episode Date: April 10, 2026

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Trash, quick question before we get started, though. You ever seen one of these before? It's called a vegetable. I thought it was going to be something exotic. I was like, wait a minute. So, fun fact, I actually love carrots, but you want to know the carrot? I have a chocolate carrot. How is that possible?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. One vegetable, and he has on his desk a chocolate version of that vegetable. That's, I could not have scripted that. I could not even thought of that as a possibility to do. To be honest, I can't believe that actually happened. I was like, I can't believe I have a chocolate carrot right here. They're delicious, by the way. You know, so I'll let you know that.

Also, happy Easter. Did you guys have a good Easter? Great Easter. Great Easter. Did you all do like the Easter egg hunt stuff or what? No. We did a little bit of Easter egg hunts, went to church, etc., etc. My grandparent, my, so my grandparents, so my grandparents,

on my kids' great grandparents. They hit Easter eggs in one of the rooms of their house, closed all the doors, made it dark, and gave all the kids flashlights. It was sick. Not like, that's in their great grandkids, not me. I didn't get to hunt for them anymore. They decided I'm too old for that,

but my kids got to go searching with flashlights, and that was sick. Yeah. Yeah. I'm bringing it up to HR. My grandparents are in trouble. I would. Dude, speaking of flashlights,

I went to, I stayed in a haunted hotel over spring break, and I went ghost hunting by myself. It was amazing. It was the best time of my life. Did you find any? Trey! What? I have so many questions.

Dude, it was like, it was like, first of all I didn't find anything, which was very disappointed, but I walked around this hotel for like two hours by myself later night. And I was just like, please, I just want like a dead nun

to just come flying out the wall and try to kill me. Do you actually want that? Wait, so hold on. I want to experience it, even though scary. Trash, just hold on. So I just want to get the summary right.

The best time of your life was walking around a hotel by yourself for two hours and not finding anything. Well, it could have happened. Maybe I got to look at my footage again, you know, because I was recording. So maybe, maybe someone said my name. Like in the corner, there's a little like thing sparkle, unexplained sparkle. Yeah. Yeah, I was FaceTime on my wife because she was like in bed and I was like, is there anything behind me? you see anything?

It was amazing. Trash, go ahead. Hold on. Time out. Wait, wait, hold on. What do you mean you didn't know was haunted? You just were walking around a random hotel looking for a ghost? You just were like there must be a ghost here? This is what happened.

Before you guys asked your questions, we were talking to other kids' parents. We were like, yeah, we were staying at this hotel. And one of the parents gave us like a scared look and like, you're staying there. And then she told us that they had an experience. And I was like, wait, what? So then we Googled it and this is like a famous

haunted hotel and I was like yeah and then I just I was sitting at the bar like just wrapping myself up watching haunted YouTube videos at the bar before I went upstairs I was just like yeah

I know exactly where to go I just went to all the hot spots you know it was pretty cool it was amazing actually actually actually it was like literally I've always wanted to do this and it was I can't even explain like I was just on a hive whole time

I was just like yes please someone scare me and I went to like the room where like this like person is and I was just like standing outside the room just like waiting about myself on the hallway I look like a psychopath but it's okay that's cool it's cool it's cool it's cool speaking of ghost stories we also had a little bit of a ghost story

over the last weekend and my kids all got super terrified because they're my house right now due to like a wall being taken down some foundation issues and then a whole bunch of rain has my entire basement completely stripped of all everything it's just it's just studs down there so they go run around with like

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So, MergeCop, I would say it's a little misleading to say you did it all by. yourself. Huh. Would you like some cake? Oh, sure. Thanks. So my kids are all running around downstairs and all that, and they come back, and they're freaked out.

And so we're like, what happened? And so this is the story. They were running around with their flashlights on their phone, and they only had one phone. So it was just one flashlight, a 13, a 12-year-old, a 10-year-old, a 8-year-old, and a 4-year-old. We're all running around. And then apparently a guy shows up.

and multiple kids say they saw the guy and then the person who was holding the phone actually had their flashlight go out and it went pitch black at that point and so for the next minute they all struggled to try to figure out how to figure out how to get up the stairs and they were just screaming in their basement

yeah in the basement and people are so freaked out so of course I said okay let's go over let's do this so I get out the flash night were you scared of? No of course not first off ghosts as scared as the wrong term and be dread if I thought there was like a super powerful spirit. Like the judge.

Yeah, yeah, just like the judge. So I didn't think I was going to experience any form of that. I wasn't even going to get to the fringes of the Numinous. So I go in there and we go around to each room and I can tell they're scared. They are standing right behind. They're like huddled against me. Like, oh, that's insane. And so I go to the spot where they see it.

I'm like, to see it doesn't work there. Let's just leave. It's not a big deal. So I start walking back. But then I was like I saw the other room and it just kind of looks like something weird was on the floor. So I turned. and they all followed me. They like stuck to me.

They're like, they're not even leaving near me. And so I showed in that room saying, like, look, see, it's just a bunch of, you know, pulled out insulation, not a big deal. So we started walking back. And the moment I turned the corner, I naturally, I screamed. You know, like, and then, of course, they all just break, like a couple of things. Let's just say that there's some tears. And they, I act like I just freaked out. And, of course, they just screaming.

Just to see what would happen. That is so mean. He was so awesome, dude. It was so awesome. I mean, the fact that there's multiple kids that saw somebody. Yeah, that was a... Dude, you have to... You need to investigate that, you know what I'm saying?

You need to go down there by yourself with a candle for like eight hours and just sit there. Tres, you're going to see something if you look by candlelight for eight hours. You need... Prime, you could get one of those, like, little, like, radio. You got to get, like, a radio and turn the... The soundbox. Soundboxes. Yeah, you got to get one of them's down there.

Trash. So you can pick up some signals from the beyond. We need a paranormal episode of the stand-up where we're following you around. We should just all go as like a paranormal stand-up. Yeah. Do a stand-up in the world's most haunted place? Yep. What's the world's most haunted place?

Do we have known where that is? There's something out of the crash knows. Pennsylvania, there's a state penitentiary. Okay. Told you. He was like one of the top of the one's head. That sounds like, yeah. That sounds like there'd be one there.

Welcome to the stand of today. We have an extremely special episode, as always, is TGDV, Casey Muratory, legendary game dev and trash dev. And this special week, Trash Dev is going to walk us through the app he's been creating, one of his first, very first vibe-coded apps, which very well may lead to his divorce. So I'm very excited about the outcome of this application. So please, Trash, take the stage and tell us all about it. May I interject for a moment before Trash takes the stage? There's also going to be a new place on YouTube for you to watch the full episodes of the stand-up. We're going to upload them.

The link will be in the description. It's just a channel for the full episodes. I know some of you guys have been saying in the comments. You have the full episode on YouTube. We hear you. We're going to make that happen. That'll be easy. You'll still see some shorter, little tighter edited versions showing up on Prime's channel.

He's like, I can't have videos that are an hour long. My audience, they've only got eight-minute maximum attention stands. Okay. They've got maximum eight minutes. And that's, he's pushing them. Every week he tries to add one second to the video. By the time you're 100 years old, you'll be able to watch a 12 minute video. You're going to be, you're going to be just safe and sound in.

You'll be faking me before you die on your deathbed, buddy. And they say YouTube's making you dumber. They haven't seen the Primagent's channel. So anyways, that's there. So just be on the lookout for that. We'll have links in the description and everything for that. This episode will also be there. So you'll, you could be able to hear Trash's ghost stories or whatever.

whatever just happened before this. Trash, take it away. I meant a better ghost story. Anyways, so I should preface this, right? Because I don't think everyone actually knows the lore. Yep, start at the beginning. If you're married, which I doubt many of you are in chat. But if you were to get married or have a significant other,

there will be a time where you will get in arguments. Petty arguments, but okay, let me just paint the story. Me and my wife. So far, so good, dude. Yeah. I was like, I'm going to fast forward this. I'm fast forwarding this. Okay, so me and my wife, we get a little, we're a happy couple, first of all.

Let me put the disclaimer there. But she's like me. She's basically, oh, she's not like me. She's a way better person than me. But we have a similar sense of humor when it comes to just me and her. Sometimes I or she does things that are kind of just like, the fuck, you know? Why did you do that? So I would always bring up things.

So there's an example, and I'll just say, I hope she's not listening. She might be like outside the door. By the way, she was listening for the first one. I mean, he's going to get forwarded. It's going to get forwarded. So what everybody knows about this because we spoiled it on the standup and she was standing outside the door and she got really upset at me. But anyways, we'll get into arguments where I'm like, oh, you left food in the sink.

Because I'm like a big pet. Like, I hate leaving food in the sink that's like sitting on the thing. It gets a cake to it. Like I like to wash everything down the drain. And she would do that late at night and then go to bed. I'll wake up in the morning and I'll see it. I'm like, if you did it again. And then I'd bring it up.

And she'd be like, I don't do that. I'm like, yes, you do. she's like prove it i'm like well i can't prove it and then after about 20 years of that i finally decided to do something about it so i have this we are we are inches away from being like an episode of like a daytime talk show with that setup like this is after 20 years we finally decided to do something about it please welcome stage trash dev yeah you can't build you can't build the app early because you'll definitely get divorced. So you've got to lock them in 20 years from now.

And they're too invested at this point. I was going to say we're really close to Trash doing an in-person episode of the stand-up with us because he has to live at my house. He just pops up on your camera and you're like, what's going on? Oh, trash is sleeping on my couch. He made a vibe-coded app. It's complicated. It's a long story.

Very complicated. Okay. We'll get to how my wife feels about all this. And she's definitely going to listen to this episode. But anyways. So the interesting part about this is I always wanted the Bible code app just to see what it's like. But at the same time, I was like, how far can I take this? So I'm going to show you guys what I got.

We call it, it's called receipts because obviously if you get an argument, you're like, yo, bro, I got the receipts. Bam! In your face, you can't divorce me because we've been married for 20 years. Well, not that long. Like 10 years. What's the year? 2020. 2026, quick.

10 year of marriage. Okay. So you can't divorce me at this point. But I get out of people. You are wrong by a decade. Absolutely can. Yeah. We've been together for 20 years and now we're like 10.

Because we've been together for 20 years. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. What do you imagine is going to happen? Like you're going to go in front of the judge. And she's going to be like, I would like a divorce because of this ridiculous app that this clown made and is trying to tell me. And then you're like, your honor, I'm an upstanding citizen. I'm a computer programmer at Netflix.

And like, she left, she left food in the sink. And you think the judge is just going to go, well, I, fine in favor of trash stuff because they've been married 10 years. Like that's what he's going to say. That seems pretty good. Also, when I bring it up, I'm not like, oh, mean about it. I'm just like, hey, you know, I just, you know, I got some truth. How can you do that not mean?

I said, did I sound nice when I said it? What is it? When you can't sound nice, it's not possible. Like, the act itself is mean. Yeah. Well, I'll tell you what. I can't use a zap anymore. So that's the TLDR of my act.

She made me uninstall it after like two days because she did something and I walked up and I was like And she's like, what are you doing? And I was like, I'm using my app. I got to test it. And she's like, uninstall that shit right now. But I can use it again, but under certain circumstances. So she uses it against me right now.

So I have a whole like pile against me. All right. Well, it's good. She's testing it. That's good. All right. Well, continue. Don't tell them what the app is.

Nice. Tell them what the app is. Okay. But effectively, like, you just getting receipt. You're just photo documenting as things happen. You can categorize them. So I'll show you. Let me switch scenes real quick. Let me show you the little

thing you mob. Let me see. We got the desktop. Boom. Can you see? Whoa. There's a phone there. I know. I know. This is just the landing page. So this is called receipts. So it's going to see a pop up. Boom. Use it at your own risk.

Right? Use it your own risk. Yeah. Use it and I give you like the steps, you know. So it's like, how can I commercialize this? Oh, yeah. So, like, here's the first step, pause it. So I was like, okay, well, I'm using it, but how can I make it, like, more available to everybody else? And that's, like, kind of where I got the fun out of it.

I was like, let's just make this, try to make this an actual real thing. Whether it takes off or not, it doesn't matter, but it was, like, a good experience. And I've never shipped an iPhone app in my life. I've never done any of this. It was like a good experiment to kind of just, like, see what it's like for a vibe coder and see, like, how everyone's like, this model's the best and I can do all this and blah, blah, blah. So I kind of went like balls to the wall of this and just like used AI full to full full full 100% vibe coded and yeah it was interesting.

So this is the onboarding thing. Your privacy matters because obviously people are going to be like, oh, I don't want you to share my photos. And I think you have to do that. Quick question. Since you've 100% five coded it, how do you know that your privacy actually does matter? I don't, but there's a lot. There you go. No, I was kidding.

I do know. I checked the local storage. I read through the code a little bit for that specifically. I did like kind of audit the code and make sure. But, you know, I'm not calling external servers. I'm not calling like Planet Skill or some company like that. Trash, I mean, you just like, you just say, hey, Claude, is this secure or not? That's how you find out.

Yeah, you say, source, trust me, bro. And then you just put that in the footer, you know what I'm saying? No problem. So this is, so just like this is, so this is like the onboarding phase. So you can follow your receipt or whatever. And then that's it. And then I'll show you like the actual live demo. Like I'll share my actual phone and we'll get to that.

So any questions so far? That's like literally just the onboarding me. So that's basically how can I. just like pretend I'm taking an app for the masses. Where are you going to put the one of the things we had talked about that was really important for the app was like, where are you going to put the little ad for divorce lawyers like on the onboarding thing to save to contact? So we have a setting screen and I can add some documentation or links to like lawyers and stuff in your local area. You know, I can geo, you know, do geo-loathing.

I was thinking they would pay you to get their placement there because it's like direct like commission probably. It's true. Yeah. It's true. All right. You guys want to see it in action? Yes. You ready for this? Can you wait? I have a question already on this stuff you should. Ask it.

So it said start tracking or skip for now. Mm-hmm. What is the thing that you could skip? So making your first receipt. So say like I wrote like Casey here. If I didn't actually know what to track yet, I would just skip it and just get into the actual app. Okay. So basically like you're making categories like leaving food in the sink.

And then like you're saying you're going to create your first category. So I'll show you in the next screen. So this is where I'm about to show you now is what it's like when you actually like join the app or actually on board. So boom. Let's see. Is this going to work? Please work. Okay.

Oh. This is killing me. Keep going. Keep going. Yes. It's literally like, I can't imagine someone doing this. Okay. Keep going.

I can imagine because I'm looking right at it. Yeah. Is everything stable? Yeah, stable. Oh, it's very stable. Well, the app is, yeah. Yeah, the app, the app is stable. The app's looking great, trash. You've done a great job.

Is this screen just flying around the screen right now? Like, is everyone's pan- The marriage that we're talking about? No, trash. Oh, oh, you're talking about my marriage. Oh, okay, we'll get to that. Yep. So here's the app.

So obviously, I have myself first here. So you can pick yourself. You can do other people. So I have, like, mom, my son, myself. And you can kind of go through each category and kind of have your receipts here. So I can go boom, boom, boom. So that's the receipt.

So this is like if you want to add your receipt, you can go ahead and do this here, or then you can switch it to somebody else, where you can add a new person, right? And then do your receipt there. But if you already have existing ones, oh my God, my phone is frozen. Sick app, bro. Oh, my God.

It's because I'm sharing it, I swear, this app works. Hold on, we've started this bad boy. I also have a widget, spoiler. Whoa. So, like, here's the fee. So, like, you have to do it, you can have the feed here, right? So this is my feed I just I can't

I just can't I can't I can't I can't trash So this is my feet So you can go here You know I got I got toys on the floor You know what I can't

I can't handle this This is actual footage of it This is food in the sink You know like come on What's the food Is it that strawberry leaf And you see those things In the top of course

That's food I just can't I can't I can't What's happening? If you guys do this, you're disgusting. How do you live like this? Josh, I like how the solution is.

You wash out the sink, but you're like, no. You got to take a picture first. I know, like the timing would take you to just wash the rubbery down the garbage disposal. I do wash the sink and I've had enough. Okay. But you have time to take a photo. Also, note, this is all under my own profile for a cell. I have a quick question, trash.

Your feed was filled with stuff other people did. Wouldn't your feed be filled with the things you did? No, this is all under, so I'm not using like a real feed for right now, but this picture was under my wife at one point in time, which I am not allowed to do that anymore. So she's definitely going to be watching this. So I love you, Candace. So there's now under me. So yeah, yeah.

And then we have like, you know, laundry in my office. I do that all the time. So my wife calls me out. She's like, you're disgusting. I trash, I was like, dude, this is dangerous. I've seen your office. Every day she can take a bit. She can literally just take this podcast and say, look behind you.

Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah, we're a documenting. We're a dirty office. So it gives you the tag in the bottom and everything. And then we'll see what we got here. So this is a good thing. So you can also use it for good and bad. So I folded the laundry.

I folded the laundry other day and I wanted to like feel good about myself. I logged it. I logged it. So why was the, if you folded the laundry, why is it all over the floor? Yeah, why is it on the floor trash? Because I got to show. my wife that I folded it before I put it away. Okay.

You know what I'm saying? I mean it kind of makes sense. No, that makes sense, trash. It doesn't make that much sense. It does. I'm on team crazy. Guys, guys, guys, it's obvious because when he does it this way, he can spread it out.

It looks like he did 10 times. Yeah, that's when he's put away. It's like five shirts. There's like my wife's clothes, my kids clothes, and blah. I do like stacking in the middle and then putting away by stack. And then when I do, it's like everyone, come grab your pile and then take them to your room.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You know what you're saying? No. You can't disagree with me. I'm right. Okay, so here.

So say I wanted to go like Casey said something silly and I want to log it. You can hit this camera button and I can pick the receipt for him. And then boom, camera mode. Yep. And then, you know, I can do a little, I can do a video. You have videos as well. Yeah. Or, you know, I can just do a regular photo or I can, you know, you just switch to so.

You know what I'm saying? I can do all this stuff, you know? Or I can open up my camera roll, which I will not do because this is my actual phone. I will not do that. Do you go take a little phone, though? Do it? No, no balls. I have no balls in this situation.

I don't know what's in there. So yeah, then I can log it and then boom. Bada bean, bottle boom, right? And so then you can go here. Hey, you got stats. Let's get a slap or trash. That's working. Pretty good.

We got stats here. A leaderboard. We got stats. Like, I just, you know, I snap five things. I have a two-day streak. Like, you do some bad stuff for two days. You can see the top receipts, everything. And then you have, like, your config, which is like nothing crazy.

Go premium. Whoa, go back. Well, yeah. Whoa, whoa, whoa, what's that? What's that? What's that? You're only allowed to do receipts for up to three people. Anybody after that is $2.99.

Okay. Oh, I love that. That is a steal. Or $2.99 a month. A month. Or you can pay $20 for the year, and it's like a 40% discount. You know what I'm saying? Whoa.

That's a $1. You know, if you want to support your boy trash, you know, you know, throw $2 at my face, okay? As $3 trash. Oh, yeah, $3.00. That's not my strong suit. But there you go. So then you go like this. Oh, let me show you the widget.

Okay. So say you're walking around and your partner just pissed you off. You're at the restaurant. They did something mad. But you don't have time. You don't have time to open the app and select the receipt. Yeah. True.

True. Relatable. Say they didn't split the bill in. You're just like, what? Are you kidding me? Boom. We got a widget. Split the bill with my wife?

Yeah. Just a hypothetical, okay? Don't, don't, hold, okay. Sorry, sorry. Let's say you and your friend. Okay. Friend, you can split the bill. Yeah, let's go.

Let's just say me and T.J. went out to lunch and he's like, you pay. And I was like, what do you mean? So, boom. And that would be good. That's usual. Snap of Tige. Didn't pay for, didn't pay for this.

But you know what? I didn't have time to pick the receipt because I just, I only had time to snap the photo. So then I can change where it goes afterwards. And now I can say, oh, let's go ahead and change it and let's go pick where else we need to do it, you know? And then if I don't want it, I can cancel it. You know what I'm saying? I like that. That's a good flow right there.

I look like the kind of guy right now that would not split the bill with you. That would make you bad trash. Sorry. Michigan won yesterday. So I had to get that. Oh, they did. You're right. I forgot my wallet going out on like a friend dates.

And so I've forgotten the wall. So I could see receipts being very useful for my friends. and stamp a photo of me not paying for anything because I forgot my wallet again. Right. That is true. Sorry about all these user flows. There's so many random user flows in this.

Trash, I think you've done a lovely job. You're clearly a vibe coding champion, and I commend you for that. But this app is absolutely terrifying. Why have you made this? Why did you make this, Trash? You know, a man hits a point. life where enough is enough.

So this is your version of falling down. She's going to watch the episode, bro. She's going to watch that. So I'm not allowed to use this app anymore. Yeah, that's kind of my point a little bit. That's sort of what I'm talking about. Well, okay, well, that's fine. That's just me. Maybe other people do it. So I use it now

for only good things or for good things. So I'm like, oh, like, that was a nice gesture you did today. Let me record it. Take a little picture so I can just remember, go through my feet of all those sweet little nothings my wife and kids have done for me. So you can use it for good things. It doesn't have to be only bad things. Like at the end of the day, it's just tracking like whatever.

But you called it receipts, right? Like is the point. I got receipts on your good behavior, Casey. But those are called like affirmations or compliments. No one calls those receipts. Like no one asks for receipts when they get complimented. Like someone's like, boy, you did a nice job yesterday. Oh yeah,

prove I did a nice job. That's not a thing that happens in the world. You can have this lunch for free. Oh yeah. I showed me the receipt. Yeah. I got a scenario for you. Let's say someone on the internet is being me and the Casey and says, Casey's mean all the time.

I'm like, no, bro, I got the receipts. He's a nice guy. Oh, true. Okay, trash. Plus one. Headshot. Trash, wait. Wait.

Let me get a quick. Trash, great point. I'm putting that in the receipt. All right, trash. Is this an actual real app that's on the app store that people can download? It's on the app store. It's only on iPhone. So, Android, you can't use it.

Got receipts on the app store? Five stars, baby. Let's go. Let's go. But no, like, but seriously, like, I don't want to be, I don't want to be a trash. Right. Show the default picture trash that you have for capture timestamped photo and video

proof on the app store. Show the app store listing for the app. Oh, you want to see it? The app store listing? Yeah, I want that to get shown after. you say it doesn't have to be bad things. It doesn't have to be, but it should be. Got receipts.

Can you open that second photo there for us, Trash? Who is that, Trash? This is all AI generator photos. Dude, if this scene is in my house, I'd have an aneurysm. I swear. Everyone would have an aneurysm with that sink, Trash. I agree.

Capture timestamp, photo, and video proof. scroll proof in the order it happened. Separate timelines for each person. Yep. Streaks totals. What shows up most? We got a little description here. Does it sync between different,

like can you and your wife share the same one, or it's just local to you? No, it's all local only. Local only. But I mean, you know, if this takes off, maybe I'll add some features. I could see premium being you actually have a family. Yeah.

That maybe you should rename something different than family. Family plan is so funny. The family plan. Yeah, yeah. Which family would you like to destroy? But Trudge, if you have the family plan one, you have to recommend not buying it in a yearly one because it's not super likely that they'll make it through the entire year. I had this, okay, here's this feature that I didn't put in because apparently the apps that probably wouldn't like it.

I had an exposed feature where if you hit a certain threshold, you get an exposed button and I'll make like some nice video for you that just like calls them out. I like it a cutscene. Like the Google Photos memory thing. Exactly. It's like a hype video. A hype video for just calling you out on your terrible habits. The escaping expose is so good. So that, I might make that.

We'll see. But apparently, like, if I do that, I'm not sure with the app store. Because it's kind of like defamation of, like, somebody. So, you know. How's it defamation? Defamation has to be false. So I'm pretty sure you're, if you actually have receipts, those are true. Unfortunately.

That's a point of the app. Maybe. Maybe. So I guess in my head I'm picturing something like, you know, Peter Gabriel Salisbury Hill is playing, and there's just shot after shot of a filthy sink, like, happening. Is that like what we're imagining here? I don't understand.

I was thinking the sad dogs one. I was thinking the sad dogs, and it's just, is that Sarah McLaughlin, right? Yeah. In the longs of an angel. The sink slowly fading in and out. would always come on like late night TV. Terrible.

So Trash, here's the thing that I would suggest for this horrid app that should never have been made. Oh, I think it should have been made. I think it's great. This is the best app ever, Casey. This is terrible, and so many lives will be ruined. Although what I will say about that is, like I said, I don't want to be too much of a dick here, and I am an Android user. This is an Android phone. You are safe.

We're safe. So I'm just going to, this is kind of like, you know, when you say, like when you make fun of an ethnicity that you are or something and you that excuses it right it's like i am an android user and i will say that it seems like probably the best target demographic for this may actually be on android trash i'm just going to say really yeah i mean like having it only on one device sounds like divorce material because now my wife could keep receipts on me but i cannot keep receipts on her oh yeah yeah yeah yeah tell your wife to to download it. I'm going to start logging

some things. Okay, my wife would love that, by the way. It is, but it is very asymmetric. I'm going to show her this app. She is going to definitely download it and we're going to use it. My wife is using it against me as we speak. But I'm using it for affirmation. I'm using it as the affirmation. Here's a monetization suggestion for you.

So, I don't know if you have this feature yet, but I think there should be a feature where you set a threshold. Right. So you go to a category, you're dirty sync, and you set, like a threshold of 10. That's just a, like, it's a number.

Okay. Every time 10 new photos of the dirty sink have accrued, it packs those into one JPEG, emails it to the person who has, you are targeting.

I'm going to use the word targeting here because it feels like what's going on. It emails it to them and goes like, it's happened another 10 times is the subject. It's like, here are the photos of new living stuff in the sink. The monetization part is at the footer of that, you sell ad space to divorce attorneys there.

Casey, I've got one better. So at the bottom, it's like, are you tired of receiving this horse shit from Trash Dev? Click here to find divorce attorneys in your area. I've got one better than this. All right, Trash, you ready for this? What's the best way to monetize? Is anything? Lute boxes.

Oh, what's the loot box? The loot box is after you go to the family plan, you can buy new loot boxes, depending on your role, legendary to common, right? Okay. Photos, receipts of yours that are on the other person's device

get mysteriously lost. Oh, whoa. And the receipts disappear. I would also like to throw my hat in the ring of features. Pay to expunge. I'm going to go off of Casey's. Yeah. Let's say that you have a set of 10.

Yeah. If you attempt to email it and the other person's holding on to say 10 of yours. Oh, damn. They can cancel it out and say like, sorry, Uno Reverse, maybe hit you with an 11. And then you have to throw up how many of them before you hit him with it because they could Uno reverse you would actually hit you back only. Dang. So we're doing like 1B1s, huh? Yeah, this is 1B1.

This is 1B1. It's clear what the app is set up to do. You can be 1V up to three people, but for 299, you can be one versus how many people you want. That's called a monagetre, by the way. That's management of three, is what that word is. That's range for management of three. Put your Apple strap on and get in that menager twas.

Your Apple strap on. Well, this is for iPhone users, so, you know. So when does Android land? Oh, we can do it. As if there's this demand? You know, I can, uh, mum me and my boy can, uh, Get that up and running real fast. This actually took a lot of work with AI.

This took a long time to make it polished, design-wise. A lot of sinks could have been cleaned in the meantime. It's true. Well, the AI was at work while I was cleaning said sinks. You know what I'm saying? Oh. For five seconds. I think this needs a company behind it.

Oh. Terminal dot shop. A. A. B. I think that company name should be like acrimony, but would spell weird like, you know, acrimone. Y or, you know, like something like that. And this should just be one app in a suite of apps.

Like I feel like you should start thinking of like other apps that make people unhappy and that help them spread that unhappiness to everyone else. Which I think is Mark Zuckerberg's whole business model as well. Easy Casey. Start at episode one of Black Mirror. and just watch the episode there's a piece of technology. Don't start at episode one. We've already talked about this.

Start at episode two. That one. What was episode two? Netflix order. Yeah. Episode two would be the bicycling one. This was like unironically trashed. This is episode three season one,

which is the entire history of you. Yeah. You actually made a black mirror. I mean, as soon as you know it, I'm going to be integrated into like meta glasses. You can see everybody's receipt score. How much of a piece of crap they are? And it'll auto, the AI, like, that's your big AI play is really trash.

Why am I sitting here having to document these transgressions by the other persons in my household? Why isn't the AI just finding all the things they did wrong for me and putting them in a big feed so that I know all the bad things about my family and can tell them to their face? Right? Or good things. AI is glasses. Yeah. Right? And you can just like tag the ones you want.

If I see a dirty sink, I want you just to file it. Like, just file it. I don't even want to think about it. It should auto... It should... It should... No, but Prime, you're not thinking... You're not thinking about the AI future, right?

Why am I even deciding that dirty sink is the thing? Why isn't the AI telling me how horrible my wife is for leaving the sink dirty? Why isn't the AI creating the whole, like, image of humanity that we demand of each other? Isn't that a beautiful... world we could live in thanks to acrimony.com. Casey, that's a great point too because it, I'm pretty sure all of the LLM's advice is scraped off of R slash relationship advice from Reddit. And so I'm feeling pretty confident.

Me too. We'll be able to pick apart everyone else's position and confirm, yes, you are better than that person. You do deserve to leave me. Am I the asshole? No, you're not. Yes. All right.

I do have to read this. I do have to read this really quickly. So this is the entire history of you basic synopsis. It's like a one-liner. This episode is set in the future where a grain technology records people's audio-visual senses, allowing a person to re-watch their memories, the lawyer, Liam attends a dinner party with his wife, becoming suspicious after seeing her zealously interact with their friends.

And so he gets to re-watch every last little bit and has the receipts about how she acted. Trash, you've created a black mirror episode. My bad. I was like, I was like, there's no coming back from that. So, okay, hold on, me preface it. So before I built their receipts, I actually built it in a different version of an app for me. Well, it was more of like an actual wholesome app where you do document it,

but I would actually like tell you like, how can I approach the person, you know, in a nice way and like have some actual like building blocks and like, constructive dialogue. Exactly. It's like, how can I bring this up without actually causing an argument or if they're an argument, how do you like handle their response? Right. So like, so it was called something called like Littles.

because little things build up into something big. So, like, the icon was, like, a drop of water because drop of water has become puddles, whatever. So I had, like, a super nice angelic, like, theme was, like, all, like, spring colors. And I had bad aspect. And I was like, nah, let's go the bad. But then I went to the kitchen, and there was the top of the strawberry in the sink. And I just lost it. And I was like, the hell with this, the hell with constructive, the hell with improving people's lives.

You left shit in the sink again. God damn it, and here's the proof. And look, the last time you did it was seven months ago. You thought I forgot. I didn't forget. Look at the picture. Look at what you've done to me. Receipts.com.

Sign up today. Oh, my God. It's so good. Trash, I do have an alternative. suggestion. You know, instead of making it, like, just going back to your spring app where you, like, can take a photo and then get, like, coaching advice about how to kind of approach the situation.

Right. You could just pick up the strawberry leaf. I do. And then just forget it ever happened, ever. I'm just kidding. You know, it's just, I just want to, uh. Trench, honestly, it's not that bad. I mean, people are going to ruin their life with it.

but like, that's pretty common these days with the flash screen says use at your own wrist. Yeah, that is probably a good. I already can't use it for what it was made to use. Like, I got banned after 24 hours. You already ran through your own wrist. It was so funny. Every time I pulled my phone app, my phone out, she would just like stare at me, like she was going to murder me. I was like, uh-huh.

It was so funny. I'm so funny. I'm like, it's working. It's what's supposed to. I have a question for you about you, which is, do you, did this make you feel, any better? Like having made the app, was it cathartic at all? And now you're like, okay with the

strawberry in the sink or is it just a wash? No, it was just supposed to be funny because I also do a lot of things too. Okay, that's the problem. Poor choice of words. Poor choice of words on my part. I'm so sorry. Okay. No, it was more like just to be funny because

it's honestly not that big of a deal. But it was like when you do get but you made a whole app argument. Yeah, well, if AI didn't exist This would have existed if AI didn't exist I wouldn't have to put enough effort to actually make it Okay

Okay So that's like so that's specifically the main reason why it does exist Because pretty kind of low effort on my part I can still do other things while it's building Okay But also because like History about me and my wife We're a very sarcastic couple

We talk trash to each other Okay All the time I just talk. Yeah Yeah I think that she just talks to you Is that what you're trying to say

She talks to you? Yeah you know you know But like But she's like me. She's basically Oh, she's not like me. She's a way better person than me. But we have a similar sense to... Tresch, can I say quick? Before we get farther, you should have put that way earlier in the episode.

There is a chance she does not make it this far. Can you guys make a clip so I can show her that clip? Yeah, yeah. You should say, look, put a stinger at the beginning of the episode. It will be trash saying that will be coming soon. Look, 53 minutes into the episode, I said you were a better person than me. And then it's like, well, I didn't see that. It's like, well, I didn't see that.

it on the receipts app. Here it is. See what a good person I am. Yeah. I'm more curious to see what she gets on me because I know I do a lot of stuff, but I don't remember. So she's surely put, when she has a nice backlog, I'll show it to you.

Yep. Yep. That would be good. Receipts for the receipts would be good. Trash. I want to do an episode where we need to go over your download stats, your usage, some reviews. We need to get, we need to come back to this and see where the app is later. Like how we did for the Apple straps.

We'll be putting some of those exposed features on there, you know? Viral. Okay. I do. Let's see, Casey, or TJ, does, does Kaeline have an iPhone? She does not. Okay, because I was about to say we should have all the ladies get this app and see if we can compare.

I already know the one, this happened yesterday. I'm going to tell the story, it's embarrassing. I'm on the phone with Prime yesterday. I'm making coffee. I'm literally on the phone with the amount of video call, I walk upstairs, I'm talking to Prime. I take out my terminal coffee beans. Amazing. Smells

good. Pour them in, grind them, get it ready, put them in the top of my little Mokomaster coffee maker, fill in the water on the side, started going, talking to Prime, washing the coffee go up. That's weird. The top's filling up. Not really paying to our attention. All of a sudden, the water's

all the way at the tip top of the filter area at the top. I just never put the Karaf in the bottom of the coffee. It was just filling up inside of There was nowhere for the water to go. And then it spilled all over in my kitchen. And it wasn't so good. So that would be, I know right away, I'm getting ahead of that story.

I'm getting ahead of that story. Now, hashtag add, though, really quickly here, TJ. Is there any particular reason that the coffee smelled so good and delicious, though? Oh, it was a special nil blend from coffee. Only available at a terminal dot shop event was pretty special. That's probably why I got so distracted. Right. The coffee was so good.

The coffee was so good that I wasted it all. I'm not. It's just overflowing into my kitchen and having to go outside and dump grounds out. But yes. It's pretty good. Trash, we are going to, I'll get my wife to install it and take some photos of the things I do wrong.

And in one month from now, we should do a little review of what the misses is found. I'll make an Android version. I'll make an Android version. Well, no, she has iPhone. It'll be a comparison just for you and me. how bad are we at it? Okay, 1V1?

Oh, dude, my... Yeah, it's a 1B1. I'm gonna 1B1 you. Oh my gosh. That's cheating. Oh, it needs to be longer than a month because we're gonna be gone twice in the next month. Okay, true, sure, sure, true.

All right, two months, two months. Two months, meet me on the playground, 1v1. Trash. Who left the most stuff out? Leaderboards, are leaderboards. I mean, we could. We could do private leader boards. Dude, private leaderboards among the group of friends of who, like, yeah, like,

like, who's the worst? Dude, would be so funny to have groups some people in on it. Like, hey man, tell you what my wife got on me. Oh. Tresh, I'm thinking being able to set the main receipt for a person in your, like, family so that when you share it with your friends, they can see that one, right? So like, your wife shares your profile. Here's like, laundry on the ground again, you know, and it's like, it kind of like a daily status. leaving on the floor. It just sets your profile picture

to whatever people have most often snapped of you. So your profile picture like if you leave stuff in the sink is just a dirty sink. Yeah. I like that. You are what you do. Well, trash, that was terrifying. Did you guys like it? It looks like the app looks great,

Trash. I just, I'm mildly terrified. I'm just mildly terrified for humanity. That's all. Oh, dude, someone said achievements and badges. Oh, I love that. I love that. Repeat offender. Oh, my God.

It's a hot streak. Yeah. Actually, if you do something good enough, it says like repeat receipt or something, you get like a badge on that one. Yeah, God. Oh, okay. Well, thanks for sharing, Trash. I enjoyed that a lot.

I'm going to go by. I'm surprised I actually followed through it and made it. I've been talking about it. I was like, you know what? I'm going to make it happen. I'm going to actually ship something to the app store. You know what, Josh? I think this podcast helped you ship that application because we've been referencing it so much.

It actually did. That has me rethinking everything. It's a good podcast for motivation. Okay. Trash, can you at least give us one little blip about what was it like doing your first AI app? Oh, great question. I would say the hardest part was design, trying to get the, AI to actually spit out something that looks good.

Still working on that? Yeah, if you want to do, hey, hey, wait a minute. So if you want to do design with AI, it's a little hard. I was using this app called Pencil, which, oddly enough, dude, I went to the pencil Discord and asked some questions, and they're like, dude, you're from the stand-up, and we know about chat. Dude, I was like, what?

That's right. I was like, I'm going to talk about it on the podcast. That's right. And then he almost forgot. Yeah, and he almost forgot. 50, how many minutes are you in until we, Did we say it? Yeah, yeah, first your wife and now pencil.

My wife is better personal than me, and I use pencil. Hello to everyone on the Discord. And that's it for the standout this week. If you want to watch it on Spotify or whatever. No, but honestly, like, I was impressed on like, honestly, I don't know code quality. I don't know Swift, but I was able to basically build this relatively quick. The hard part was just making it look good.

And I used it to, like, help me go through the App Store review process. I had to help me go through. user flows. Like, does this make sense? So I basically had a designer team. I had a product manager and I had like, so I had like a PRD. I had a TDD and I was using those to have my prompts used to like feed everything. So every time I would make a change, I would make sure my mocks are updated, my PRD is updated, my TDD is updated. And it kind of used that to keep itself in sync. So I kind of like I had a whole team to myself, which was like super interesting. And honestly, the amount of money it took for tokens or just the eye usage was not that high at all.

So what what AI did you use? I used uh, like which model. Yeah. I used the cursor's composer too. Okay. Yeah. Dude, it's C2F is it's a good one. And it's cheap.

It's not an ad, but kind of. I thought it wasn't even tracking my usage. Like the money that the meter was like not moving and I was like, there's a certain amount of free usage you get. Yeah, yeah. Is that their own one? Full disclaimer. Me and Prime have done stuff with cursor before for people listening.

Is that their own? own one? Is that not using one of the main ones that's their cursors own? It's based off Kimmy K-25, crazy girl, and they just did a bunch of reinforcement learning on it to make it like more sane and they took the Kardashian out of it, honestly.

It's just way too down. It's not as fun. So, I feel like having an AI that would manage the Apple store review process would be very valuable. Like, just like, I don't know, I don't know what can be done, but just the build and signing and submission and notarization and all that stuff is always such a pain in the butt on Apple platforms.

I feel like an AI that you just say like, hey, go keep doing this until Apple finally accepts my app would be a pretty handy little AI feature. Right. Maybe it's better now than it used to be. I had to tone down the language in my app for it to go through the process because my app is very blammy. It was very like, you know. busted, like, you know, like, not like those exact words. But you could totally use it for good stuff, too.

Wait, trash, do you mean that, like, the app store rejected it? Or the AI just... For like, some of the words, for like, some of the words, it's like, this is like too aggressive and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. What a ridiculous world we live in. So Apple was like, I'm sorry that's too aggressive.

Yeah, because it goes down to like the defamation and like, just, you know, being mean, you know? So I don't like, tailor it back to just like, this is just documenting stuff. But you can use it for good things. You can. Okay.

You can. Wow. All right. Okay. Because he's like, burn it. Burn it now. Well, the idea is already out there. If trash doesn't make it someone else.

Yeah. Now it's like too late. It's you've unleashed it on the world. Imagine if this just causes a huge divorce waiver on the world. Can you imagine? That would actually be sad. We would be sad, then. Yes.

That would be crazy. I don't think it's going to, maybe it's going to cause a bunch of people to remember the good things about each other. Yeah. Don't forget. You can use it for good things. It's true. I love the idea of a product where every time, like literally every time you say anything about it, you have to go, but you could use it for good things. If you don't use it for.

I thought that was social media. But you can use it for good things. On how well it works out. One time, one person used it for a good thing. We think, like, here's the receipts. captured a guy doing the good thing with it once. We've got all of them. Yeah, all three, all three times right here in the receipts log.

Weirdly, it was all trash on the stand-up live. Yeah, yeah. All right, well, I guess we'll see what happens now. Yeah, we'll see what happens. Well, congratulations, trash for releasing your very first. My very first. iOS app. That's pretty cool.

That's a hurdle because iOS is extremely difficult. So you did something that both people can't do. I can't believe I've found. follow through. So I'm excited. I'm excited. I assume Swift is optional. Like you don't have to program the Swift, right? You could program in something else you want to. It's just that's what people often use for that. I assume. Yeah, you have the option of objective C. That's like a pretty fun one. Yep. You could do React Native. Yeah, I chose not specifically not to do React Native.

That may have been a good choice. So. All right. Trash, two things. Why didn't you choose React Native and what are you fiddling around with your fingers? It's the carrot. I knew it. I knew it. He's about to eat the chocolate He's about to do a celebratory carrot eating. Carrot. Well, I didn't choose React Native. I don't know much about it

now, but when I did do it, the ecosystem was just hell on Earth, so I knew just AI would just mess it up. So if I can just keep all these insane peripherals out of vision, my AI can just focus on like something easy. So I didn't like use any really external libraries. It's just swift. Like React Native,

it's like, let me install this and install. this, all this doesn't work with this version. So I don't want any of that. I feel like if I did that, I probably would have gave up or spent like a lot of money trying to figure it out. Yep. So, you know, you don't have to write react for everything,

boys and girls, okay? That's not, that's not what Casey told me before the stream. You can use React for good things too. Oh my God, that's such a good clip. All right. I guess that's the end of the stand-up. That is.

Bye. All right. That was a, wow, you really nailed the outro on that one, Prime. Well, I guess that's the end of the podcast. Prime, I got to say, I was watching Casey's podcast.

Shout out Casey's podcast, the new one with Dimitri. And it was crazy because there's this thing that happened. I did not understand it. Before the episode starts, Casey comes out and says what's going to happen. And then at the end, he kind of like talks about what happened.

And it was crazy. I have never done an intro without TJ interrupting me. There has been. I need a super cut. That's it. That's true. I actually have an Apple device for one of my cameras. I'm whipping it out.

Receipts. Receipts. I'm a receipt, TJ, so hard. Okay, that's it. Yeah. Oh, I'm going to get them so good. All right. Hey, thank you very much for joining the podcast.

I hope that you enjoyed this. If you wish to watch these things on Spotify, we do have a Spotify. We have an Apple podcast and a brand new YouTube channel where you'll get the entire podcast. Yes, the very long intro where we asked trash. Hey, do you like carrots? And he says, no, chocolate carrots. You'll get every last little bit of it all on YouTube. The Clips channel will remain the Clips channel.

And my channel will just have the main content on it for a little bit longer until at some point. We'll just transition where it's only on the separate channel. And T.J, please interrupt. Quick interruption here. Also, if you just, if you're interested, you can just go to the standup pod.com. You can just download the audio. That's true. Just straight up.

We have the MP3s. You can just download them. You just download them and it's chill. So just throwing that out there, that's more of your speed. We've got that going to. You just put them on a little USB like this. You can listen to probably every episode of the stand-up ever. Just a little thing like this.

And it's fast. You'll own it. It's very fast, very easily downloadable. Don't click the red button on the website, though. It breaks the entire thing. Click the red button. Boy. Boot up the day.

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