The Standup with ThePrimeagen - We used to be gamers

Episode Date: February 14, 2026

We used to be gamers… and honestly, we still kind of are. In this special Standup episode, the crew skips the usual news cycle and just talks games: Terraria obsession, Slay the Spire addiction,... Starcraft war stories, Pokémon Go team challenges, and the dangerous temptation of getting “back into it.” Expect chaos, nostalgia, and way too many side quests.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to a very special episode of the stand-up. We are going to have a stand-up that will end when this task of Ralph ends in the background. It's just going to keep on chugging along and we'll see what it builds at the very end. Or this podcast will end before it or it'll end afterwards. You know, it's just some condition I put on there and we're not really sure. Anyway, sorry. This week, we've decided that the news cycle, just not that much fun, you know, going on Twitter. It hasn't been the highlight of my week.
Starting point is 00:00:28 So therefore, we're going to do something a little bit different, non-tech-related. what is your favorite video game. Or games. I don't want to necessarily limit it to just one because that's too hard. Yeah, we don't need to do it. You know what? Actually, honestly, that's usually how we do that. You can't just give like, hey, what's your favorite thing?
Starting point is 00:00:44 And you give like a couple of answers. Like, no, what's your favorite? And ask what's like a handful of things. I ask for your favorite. Are we picking just one? Yeah, favorite right now. So it doesn't have to be favorite of all time. So this is not like, oh, but an ocarina of time when I was 10 years old was the most meaningful game I've ever played in my lifetime.
Starting point is 00:00:59 All right. Okay. All right, now that I know the rules, that's easier. All right. Now, I know Began, you've traditionally been banned from video games for the last, like, what, decade at this point? But what is your current favorite video game? Honestly, I've been playing Terrario alone. Okay. Is this why you haven't been responding to my DMs? Yes.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Okay, all right. You're bad at Terraria. I don't even know what that is. Is food poisoning terraria? It's just a quick. It is food poisoning in the room with us right now. What is this game? You've never played Terraria?
Starting point is 00:01:30 No. It's 2D Minecraft. It is amazing. It's 2D Minecraft. Like you pick different classes. It is absolutely... Josh, have you ever played Minecraft? Yeah, I hate Minecraft.
Starting point is 00:01:39 You hate Minecraft? Minecraft's the only game that I get motion sick from. It's the only game. There's no other game that I get it because the perspective is a little bit off. All the squares are like this slightly diamond shape, and I've just never been able to give you to it. Notch.
Starting point is 00:01:50 I don't agree with that notch at all. It's not notch's fault. Oh, install any NPM modules lately? Why? Yes, I have. Sorry. I reference Twitter drama. My bad.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Already back to Twitter drama, Cheech, come on. My apologies. My apologies. No, honestly, we should all, I wanted to actually plan a little session with the squad here and play Terraria. That would be fun.
Starting point is 00:02:09 You play hardcore mode, you know, or you die. But it's the classic thing. You dig for materials. You build weapons. You fight bosses. You build worlds. But it's all like a platformer instead of 3D work.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Is there like, is there any like skill in the platforming involved? Or is it really just like we're digging, we're doing stuff? Incredible amounts of skill. Incredible. Probably you wouldn't be able to do it. Honestly, Primes.
Starting point is 00:02:28 I know that won't work, But we'll also there is an entire Someone built a 32-bit computer in Terrarate Which guys, there was actually a video primary acting that two years ago Yeah Yeah true you can build True Someone built a 32-bit computer in this video game
Starting point is 00:02:41 Because they actually give you all the gates Is it a turn complete? Yes 100% No they built a computer that's not Turrey complete Well Well I was getting at like Does it actually work? I was getting at it doesn't actually work
Starting point is 00:02:52 Great question trash Great question Trash they made it a little easier They literally were like cool Here's wires in every single game They literally were like, here's assembly. So it's even, it's really, really easy. Also, I've been using, this is crazy,
Starting point is 00:03:06 but I've been using ChatGPT to design Terraria's circuit designs for me. Excellent. Is it actually good at it? Oh, I believe that. It literally prints out exactly the schematic. You tell it what's it want, you tell it how you want it to evolve. It's really, literally the first one worked right away, and I've been going further. So if you want to build, so they he built 32-bit computer, so I'm working on a 33-bit computer.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Dang. I don't want up him. I don't even know what that means, but... Well, it has 33 bits of something. It's one more bit, prime. I have to say, just because people haven't been following us around all week, my favorite thing so far was we were talking to Josh about 32-bit float sound. Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:43 And then I made the joke, I was like, oh, well, I prefer 64. It has double as many. And you just acted like that made sense. Okay, so 32 times 64 is not... You're still, you keep laughing again, 32 times... 32 times 2 is 66. Yeah, that was... You keep doubling it.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Right. So why am I wrong? No, no, no. 32 times 2 is 33. Great point. It is 33. Yes. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:04:07 A little Terrence Howard math. Okay, I'm down for that. Hey, for every reaction, there's a reaction. Hey, guys, look up exponents in your free time if you forgot it from like fourth and fifth grade. Hey, is that HCT? Get that out of here. That's not how we order coffee. We order coffee via SSH terminal.
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Starting point is 00:04:38 You don't know what SSH is? Well, maybe the coffee's not for you. Terminal coffee in hand. So Terraria, though. Yeah, Terraria is mine. I think, honestly, I'm excited. I'm actually going to do a little programming in Terraria this year, and I'm trying to
Starting point is 00:04:57 also convey, also you guys got me saying Terraria. Terraria. Yeah. That's why I'm trying to convince me to do it. I'm trying to convince everyone. I'm trying to convince him to play. Can we pause? You're saying you knew it if he said Terraria, but you didn't know it if he said to rip.
Starting point is 00:05:09 Well, I tried to look it up and I googled Terrarium. It brought up like a bunch of plants. And I was like, all right, I don't know the game. I play a plant game where I make virtual terrariums. By the way, Ralph says it's gone. Oh, okay. Great podcast. Seven seconds.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Great podcast, everybody. We didn't even acknowledge. I love Galactus. I'm very happy here. No, but seriously, with Tararia, can you, uh, Can you do like plug in so we could say plug in a server? Like mods? And serve something off of, like serve something off of it and do all of our programming in Terraria.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Okay. So we've got, okay, that's not how I took. Good news. Good news and bad news. Okay. Actually. You can't. Good news and bad news. You can do mods.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Bad news. You have to do them in C sharp. That's fine. There's something called Chad Chippity that can write grade C sharp for me. So I'll never have to learn it. Oh, I didn't know a new C sharp yet. That's awesome. That Microsoft, remember the whole Microsoft Open A&I.
Starting point is 00:06:00 That's where they bought it. They've been preceding it with C-sharp knowledge this whole time. You can definitely mod it. And I also do think I've looked at some of the mods. I think everyone out there are like video game players who are modding it. They haven't had like clinically insane programmers modded yet. So I think we're going to take it to a pretty good level this year. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:19 I like that. I would be, okay. So with that in mind, this being your favorite game right now, I would be down to do like a week. Like what can you build in one week? Wait, so it's whatever game we pick Prime. to play for a week. No, that's not what we're doing. Okay, I was just wondering because I was thinking,
Starting point is 00:06:35 okay. I might change my answer. To anime girl feet picks on Nintendo? No, I don't think so. No, I was going to pick. I'd have to think about it more, but I didn't know that was on the table. I was just recalculating like GPS.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Well, I'm just sitting here and listen to this, and this seems like we could do a lot of cool stuff with it. Yes. And so it's just like, okay, well, we have Twitch chat. We have YouTube chat. Yep. We have a week. What if we all sat down and said,
Starting point is 00:06:54 what are we building? Can you save Terraria games to get? Can we find a way to do versions? With code, all things are possible. With through code, all things are possible. It's true. Except for traveling salesmen. You could still do it, and we just don't know how to solve it efficiently.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Okay. A tough guy. Sometimes. Is that even considered solve if you can never actually see the answer? Is a problem ever solved if no one sees the answer? Okay, now we're getting into philosophy. That's next week's podcast. That is going to be a great podcast next week.
Starting point is 00:07:25 All right, Prime, what's your favorite game? Right now, my favorite game has been Slay of the Spire. It's been Slate of the Spire for the last six months. It's the only outlet that I currently have that is non-programming right now or family-related. Can I be honest? The reason why he's addicted to Slay the Spires
Starting point is 00:07:41 is because it's on his phone. You could get him on Candy Crush is so easy and he would be so addicted. I have no, first off, I can't because Candy Crush is too much luck. I hate Candy Crush. I hate it with a passion. Candy Crush is luck. I played it like 10 years ago.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Yeah, I played it 10 years ago. It was very, very frustrating. But the reason why is that... Candy Crush was very much. frustrating. There's a thousand grandmas and moms playing it all day. That's because okay, I'm going to say something that's going to sound really mean now, but I'm just going to say
Starting point is 00:08:08 I think that you have to have not a lot going on upstairs to enjoy Candy Crush. Okay, that's what I'm saying. It's a toilet game. It's a toilet mind game. Wait, wait, wait, so you guys play mindless games in the toilet? That's when I do my best thinking. I do my most, I do challenging video games of the
Starting point is 00:08:24 toilet. Such as. I like to usually pick my civilization next turn on there. Because usually Right now where I'm at, it takes me 20 to 30 minutes to exactly choose what to do over my whole turn. So usually I can get out one turn when I'm in there. Why are you laughing at that? You would be the absolute worst person to play Siv with. Okay, first of all, I play Siv a lot. It's one of my other favorite games, and I'm really good at it.
Starting point is 00:08:49 With humans or with computers. Okay, I don't put a lot of other humans. Just like Terraria. Ekin strikes me as the one guy who, like, when it's his turn, everyone gets up and makes snacks. Yes, yes. You would also be horrible to play Catan with. Like, imagine playing Catan. Hey, guys, hey guys, hey guys.
Starting point is 00:09:05 Biggant, no one likes me. I need logs. Everyone's like, we don't have logs. No, no, no, no, no. I need logs. Yeah. I need logs. I need logs.
Starting point is 00:09:12 He won't let his turn and until someone traits it. I know one of you guys have logs. I know a six was rolled last round. Give me your log. All right. So I know I'm going to get three logs, Prime. I know you have one log left. He's card counting.
Starting point is 00:09:23 I know I'm going to get in more trouble for this, but I did convince Lindsay to play a couple of games of match at the gathering with me. Yep. But the style of match of the gathering I've been working on is how to build like little computers and infinite loops in it. She was not happy with it. So you can build little, actual infinite loops. Like there's four card infinite loop, two card infinite loops. So that's my goal.
Starting point is 00:09:42 And then so when I'm playing with her, it's like, okay, your turn good. We're teaching it fantastic. Now for my turn. 45 minutes later. 100%. And so she quit. She won't play with me anymore. Who could have saw that coming?
Starting point is 00:09:54 I just can't even believe this. I'm like, aren't you impressed? aren't you proud of me? Look at, I'm a computer scientist, honey. Look what I've done. Is it like draw four cards and then you kind of just keep looking at that? Discard draw a card. You know, you're able to discard a card.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Every time you discard a card, you're able to add an extra guy. Every extra guy you had, you can draw a card. Uh-oh, we're in a loop. I also do this online and I have, I mean, a lot of people have done this before, but I crash the match at the gathering arena often. On purpose. That is the point of the game. playing.
Starting point is 00:10:28 How many cards does it take? How many times around this loop does it take for it to crash? Oh, for those ones? Well, those first one turn. But I might have something like... I mean the loop of like discard a card, get a guy, be able to get a new card. Maybe like 70 times, but it's not just about like the loop.
Starting point is 00:10:46 It's about what you're gathering. Because each time I make things more and more. So I have things where it's like every time I make a new food, it makes a new squirrel, I have a new squirrel. I make, makes a new rat. And then I say, times I make any token double it. So then so yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:01 So then it's like when I'm doing this loop, I go one loop around. Two pieces of bread, two squirrels, two rats. One more around. Two pieces of squirrel. Two brats, two rats. And I just keep doing that. But do they grow? Weird.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Yeah, I was about saying, because 70 times that is 140. No, no, there's exponential ways. There's other exponential ways. There's ways of saying, take whatever the highest attack power is and add it to all of your creatures. Right. So that means what's going to happen. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:25 It's going to move up. Double. And then double. Exactly. Exactly. It's a times two malt. So I got really excited about this, and then I got on the internet,
Starting point is 00:11:32 I'm going to make some friends who play magic, and then it was a thousand threads on Reddit of people. Like, I won't play with these guys. Anyone who's into doubling and doubling tokens, they're the worst. And I was like, I thought I found this on my own,
Starting point is 00:11:42 and I thought I didn't know. It's shocking that Began went and played magic figured out a strategy that makes people not want to be his friends. Okay, then he sounds like social networks right now. The most unlikable guy ever. Trash, we got to get you over to magic. Pokemon ain't the way, okay.
Starting point is 00:11:56 We're going to get you. you can... But no, no, you don't play Pokemon. Yes, you do play Pokemon. No, no, you can. You can. You can. You see what he just said there? He holds on to Pokemon. There's a vast difference between playing. But I think, Trash, you would be doing the same thing if you were
Starting point is 00:12:09 in the magic, right? You'd just be holding cards. Is that the joy of it for you? Grabbing? I just like to collect them. Yeah, yeah, right. That's what I'm saying. That's why he does Pokemon. What's the value of collecting them if you don't play with them? I like to look at them. So, are you the guy that... Oh, literally? My waffle in my and I'm just staring at my seal collection. I'm just like, so cool.
Starting point is 00:12:25 So when you make a Lego. Do you just put it on the shelf? You're just done. You make a Lego. You put it on the shelf. I also, I rip it. So I have like a seal collection and I rip it. No, when you put a Lego together, some people put it on a shelf.
Starting point is 00:12:36 You put Legos together. Lego would be the company. No, no. Each set is a Lego. Legos make a Lego. He's not going to understand. Okay. The circuits aren't going to connect there.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Okay. I don't understand. This is why he gets the infinite loops and magic right here. But I'm saying there's two types of people. There's people when you make a Lego set. That better? You just let it. It's it. Other people like myself, I
Starting point is 00:12:59 will make a little spaceship and then I go like this. That's like the fun of the Legos is after you build it going not, it's appreciating and value on my shelf. Check the eBay price. That's what you do? Well, I'm not going to sell. I have no intent of selling, at least now, but I like to just look at them. All right, so back to Slay the Spire
Starting point is 00:13:18 as a thing that I really, really like. I like Slay the Spire because I keep losing at it regularly. And I feel like I should be better than than TJ but TJ's Ascension 19 on this guy
Starting point is 00:13:32 and it makes me very angry that TJ's ascension 19 It's a high IQ game So normally I played ironclad And I think I got up to 10 or 11 on my last phone And this phone I'm back down to six It doesn't sync between them
Starting point is 00:13:42 I don't know why I'm signing the same Google thing We don't have that technology It was lost It was lost TJ Ever since COVID We lost the ability to sync between phones We don't know what's syncing
Starting point is 00:13:52 between devices My what's your Google Like little handle that it generated I don't know, but it has a guy with the top hat, and that's all I know, and I'm not going to say the email that it's associated with. Mine is like Corellius Jelly, and it makes me laugh every time. I don't know exactly what it is. I've never seen all of the letters closely enough to pay the username?
Starting point is 00:14:10 I think you can, but I just let it pick one, but it just let it pick one. Yeah. And then it goes away. So, yeah, I probably have some fun name like. Mine's like Corellius jelly, and it makes me laugh every time. You just flogging. Yeah, exactly. Wait, Prime, do you only play sleigh on your phone?
Starting point is 00:14:23 Yeah, that's the only game. I did, okay, so I did download Clash, uh, Clash, uh, Clash, Royale so I could play with my kids. And then I played for a little bit and I just went, man, this game's kind of stupid. And I just don't want to play it because I don't like any kind of like buy to win games. And it definitely has a lot of buy to win mechanics in there.
Starting point is 00:14:39 You got to play for a long time. Either you're grinding time or dollars. And I was just like, I don't really want to do either. Wait, T.J, when you play as well, you play so this fire, do you play on your phone? You play on your computer? Also on my computer. Okay. A little bit on my phone, though.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Okay. Yeah. My computer's higher. My computer's my like further. I just feel like I play so much better when I'm on. my computer. I like being able to press 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. A 100%. Yeah, I agree. Well, I also just like... I don't know. This feels
Starting point is 00:15:03 good. But I have the dumb thing where it's like when you swipe from the bottom of the phone. That's what makes it go to, like, show all your apps. Oh, yes, yes, yes. Because I don't like the buttons, because I like the... I live on the buttons. I live on the buttons. I like that I have approximately 0.25 more inches of screen real estate for absolutely no reason on the bottom by making the buttons go away.
Starting point is 00:15:23 So then I like the gestures. I don't like how big you exaggerated that. Is it not? How much do you think it is? Well, considering they're that big, I would say like a centimeter. That's pretty close. You said two, five. Oh, I thought you said 2.5. This is America.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Don't be talking about those centimeters. We don't believe in those. What's a centimeter? How are you comparing inches to centimeters anyways? They don't convert. That's only apples to oranges. Thank you. Finally, someone who understands.
Starting point is 00:15:48 All right, Trash. Trash, what's your game right now? What about you? Hey, me, Trash. You know, we didn't even acknowledge that we're live together in person? Great point, Trash. We're live together in person. Did you know that?
Starting point is 00:15:58 I didn't realize. I missed on the intro. I'm just going to call it. It's been bothering me. Do the intro and we'll put it at the beginning. I'm the worst entrance now. I do want to. You just come in there.
Starting point is 00:16:06 I just, one thing I am a little bit shocked about is the fact that you showed up to this really nice place with this really nice studio in a Tostito's sweater. It's such a sick one. I'm taking it home after we're done. Also, I cannot believe that they sponsored trash div. I cannot believe. I've not seen them sponsor many people.
Starting point is 00:16:25 We can't turn around because he's sponsored. He's plugged in, but it literally says trash dev on the back because it's his jersey. With his jersey number. Yeah, it's his jersey number. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. Tustina. Please sponsor me.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Somebody. People in the middle, trash. Swamp free snacks. Wait, what? Don't you think it looks like two people and then they got like a kid with them or something? That's the action. Two people and they're dipping a chip into salsa. Yes, that is the logo.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Well, I was thinking that was the kid. Wait, hold on. That's the, that is the logo. Yes. It's two people. It's two people sharing a chip, dipping it into the red salsa. Whoa. My mind is so blown that two people would share a chip.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Like, out of all things to do, that just feels... You've never shared a chip with your wife? No, that's disgusting. Why would you hold the same chip anyways and dip it together? It's romantic. You've seen Lady and the Tramp with a noodle? It's not the same thing at all. You can't pull on it at all.
Starting point is 00:17:14 It snaps like a little wishbone. Different cultures have different things that they like to share. So it's fine. For me, it's chips. You're calling yourself a different culture? Yeah, we share the chip. I'm not a dog. He is from the Midwest.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Yeah. It's a totally different culture. And they're in what New York in Lady and the Tramp? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I was like, are they? I don't even remember the movie. Yeah, we're doing a little.
Starting point is 00:17:35 We're going to watch it after. They share a noodle in that one. My mind is blown that there's two people. I know. This is shocking. Are you sure? Like, that's like, that's like that's like it has. I mean, I didn't ask anybody from Tostitos before I made the claim, but I'm pretty sure.
Starting point is 00:17:48 No, it's true. Yeah. Tostitos. Yeah. Yeah. Tostitos. He loves you even more now. I know.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Sponsor. He definitely does chill tostitos off camera. Sometimes we're like, okay, dude, we got it. I actually don't like Tostitos at all. Okay. Okay, okay, now we just, we just, we were this close. We almost had them. Almost got our first next thing.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Surely, I'll do the dip, but that's all I care about. They've got, they have such a wide range. I'm just kidding. Something must appeal to you. There's lime. Oh, no. Ew, you like that? A hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:21 The scoops? Scoops with the salsa. I do love scoops. Scoops are pretty good. We're back. We're back. We're back. We just sold a hater.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Scoops are convenient. But here's the deal, Trash. Like, if we're going to be out here trying to sling you some sponsors, like you can't just torpedo the first one we're getting you because it really makes it hard for any follow-up.
Starting point is 00:18:38 It's just like when Mark Zuckerberg followed him around in New York and kept going. At every meeting. Because we've watched social networks who are pretty much experts. There's going to be a lot of social network references. I had no idea what you were talking about. I was like, what? I am very into this social network right now.
Starting point is 00:18:56 Yeah. Okay, so back to my favorite game. Yes, so I don't really game much anymore. Okay. The only game I do have is on my phone is Pokemon Go, obviously. You're still playing Pokemon Go? Yes, actually, I have a team challenge. I need to complete.
Starting point is 00:19:08 So I'm going to work on that afterwards. Wait, you have a team? I have never actually played Pokemon Go. What did that mean to have a team challenge, and how does one complete? I don't know. It's kind of new. You just kind of, like, work. For instance, you can have a group of your friends,
Starting point is 00:19:19 and you have to catch like 100 Pokemon in a week. That would be like an example. Okay. How did you find your team? team. Just friends. That's like... How'd you find your friends? Based online.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Okay. What websites? Began's like, I need... Do you have any tips and tricks? How can I be normal in these groups? So people play with me. I'm a little bit shocked that the goal is like, catch a hundred Pokemon because it kind of sounds like World of Warcraft
Starting point is 00:19:43 where it's like you get to the next spot and it's just like, hey, go get 20 feathers for me. It's just like... Mine list grinding. What else can you do in Pokemon go besides catch Pokemon? You can, like, raid with your friends. What is raiding mean? I don't know, because I don't raid.
Starting point is 00:19:59 So you just... But I think you literally just, like, you guys attack some gym together. Yeah. Okay, sick. And that's, like, about all I know. Yeah. Okay, hold on. No, no, no, let's stop Pokemon Go.
Starting point is 00:20:08 My favorite game is StarCraft. Oh, one or two. Part of the Swarmor Legacy of the Void. Also, as a quick aside, when are we doing the RTS? 1V1V1V1, 4 different RTSss. Because that's what we need to do. Yeah, it's true. Come back to that later.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Well, the latest one would be Wings of Liberty, StarCraft 2. It's probably the last time I played. Wait, wait, wait, no, no. It's Legacy of the Void, isn't it? I thought Wings of Lived... Wings of Liberty was like when StarCraft 2 first came out. Yeah, yeah, that's what I mean. So Wings of Liberty is...
Starting point is 00:20:36 I didn't even make it to Legacy of the Void. He's saying latest one he played. I'm so confused. Part of the Swarm? So good. Is that like the one right after that? I don't even remember. You don't even know how good is.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Trash, what do you play? Yeah, what do you play? So I'm a Zerg player and Hi Masters. Top 20. masters, almost a grandmasters. Really? Okay, trash. I'm not gonna lie, like, so when Twitch was like Justin. Dot TV, that was when I was playing, like, I'm gonna get a, let me get a follow.
Starting point is 00:21:02 You were actually masters in 2000. It was like 2012. Something like that. Those are the hard days. Those are the hard days to be master. I was hardcore. We had land parties at my house. But today, it's probably also hard because, like, the only people still playing.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Incredible pros. They've been playing for 20 years. Right, yes. They've memorized everything. They used to go, like, local tournaments, get beat by 10-year-olds, get really mad. All right, so then that's when he started of jiu-jitsu. That's like when I stopped playing. I was like, I can't believe it.
Starting point is 00:21:27 I just lost of this kid with no job. Of course he won. What was your build? What was your go-to's? It depends. I mean, when you get to the big leagues, you got to scout, you got to see what they're doing. Wow. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:21:39 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you do whatever, you just counter whatever the plan is. What was your favorite? So you only countered? You never aggressed your own strategy? I mean, there's like a standard, there's like a standard, like default thing where I don't remember, like, the formula, but it's like, at like, at, like, nine you overlord at 12 spawning pool and then it's
Starting point is 00:21:56 kind of like cookie cutter for the first 10 minutes and then you just kind of depend on scouting so it's like how you would usually open up but yeah man it's... What's your favorite unit trash? My unit the roach. So it's called a roach and then you can burrow them and then you can burrow them they heal so then you can do this thing where like
Starting point is 00:22:12 do you have to be on your like on the goop to heal or does it heal anywhere you bro? No as long as you're on like the creep I think they call it creep. Yeah that's the go ahead. Yeah so if you're on the creep you move faster and you heal faster, I believe. Okay. So, like, you have to use your queens
Starting point is 00:22:25 and spread the creep. Yeah. But yeah, I was like, I've always been into, like, even with movies, I like war movies. I like the strategy between, like, about warfare and, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I know what you're saying. So, like, in my mind, I'm, like, actually in this battle, and I'm like, you know, I need to, like,
Starting point is 00:22:40 flank from over here and have a distraction over here and, like, really just consume me. And, man, I just try to take it as far. Like, I'm, like, really obsessive. Once I get into something, I try to be. The Pokemon. We've seen, you're in the right group, okay? Yeah, true.
Starting point is 00:22:52 It's like, it's like I just like, it's like my life becomes that. Like the Pokemon like episode I'm in right now is very much like, can I like what that is? Also calling it a Pokemon episode is sick. The other way you can do it, start calling it an arc. And to be honest, this is also why I start using VIM. So. Oh yeah. It's the ultimate RTS editor.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Exactly. So it's StarCraft for programming. Yeah, exactly. That's exactly what I feel. So when I first started using Vim before like I even got on Twitch and figured out there's like Colts and stuff. And like big following is, I was like, oh my goodness. No cult. It's not a cult.
Starting point is 00:23:23 When I'm coding, I'm just like, oh, man, I feel like I'm playing StarCraft. And it was just, like, so exhilarating. I'm just like, too, too, too. Even I'm just, like, mindlessly doing stuff. Like, I don't know. What's your top APS? APM? Yeah, I don't.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Oh, you measure an M? We slow. He's slow. He's slow. In the actual, like, StarCraft game, like a couple hundred. Like, as a Zerk player, that's, like, normal because you're just mindfully spamming. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But if you're, like, Protas or Terran, it's a lot lower because those are harder races to play.
Starting point is 00:23:50 There's a lot of progress. Taryn is so hard. As a Zerg player, Taryn's like the worst person to play against. So I was like, I'm going to become a Tarian player. But man, you have to like your brain, you have to split your brain into like five different.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Yeah, Taryn's the only race I can't play it. It's insane. Like there's definitely like a cap of what your brain can just handle at one time. And then if you can't get past that like limit, then you won't progress in StarCraft because you have to be able to do like six things at one time. So I think we might have to have a little StarCraft tournament. We have that one stipulation, okay?
Starting point is 00:24:20 we have to only play it on N64 What? You know it's out on N64. You know it came out on an N64 controller. Can you imagine? Are you sure you're not confusing it with Command and Conquer? I am 1,000% not confusing with Command and Conquer. There's no way it's on... I know that's on...
Starting point is 00:24:38 That's just a quick back check on that of 5. Literally do a quick... I also play Command and Conquer. So in college, we didn't have a... You couldn't actually like... We were stuck on the Internet, basically. Right, or not? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:49 So my whole, like, engineering floor, we just played CNC. Real quick, just confirmed. Oh, I am right. StarCraft 64 is a 2000 Nintendo 64 port of the popular PC strategy game. Yes, so imagine StarCraft where you're... That sounds terrible. No, it's just easy. So instead of having a bunch of keyboard shortcuts, you just slowly go...
Starting point is 00:25:08 But you can only have... It sounds awful. Oh, my goodness, that's terrible. You can only have two player. Yeah. You're afraid? I'm going to take it. Damn.
Starting point is 00:25:17 First off, we play StarCraft. This is StarCraft 2 household. I will say I kind of feel like somebody who maybe like you know like if you're around a friend who's been sober for a long time like it's best not to drink
Starting point is 00:25:31 I'm just letting you know like right now I'm feeling something inside of it because I love Starcraft like that was my jam for a good decade when I tweeted it I sat there and I had my gaming PC in my closet and I was like I should set this up but I have no room maybe I should buy another desk maybe I should just have a dedicated
Starting point is 00:25:48 game desk It's dangerous. But I have one spot in my office and I'm running out of room for my Pokemon cards. I was like, man, I got a pig. See the Pokemon cards. I gave it. You need a new room for your Pokemon cards, okay? That's a good point. I'm actually out of room.
Starting point is 00:26:02 I'm like, I actually hit my limits. So I have to buy some shelves. But seriously. Maybe a shipping container? Put in a little spot in the backyard. I want to see it all the time. He needs a temperature controlled shipping containers. He does. He needs. You need climate control. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Have you played some of the newer StarCraft, too? Because it doesn't sound like you have. So do you know about, Lurkers. Yeah, yeah. So I got into it. I mean, I took it pretty far. I think I played a little bit
Starting point is 00:26:23 of the legacy of the way, but I'm talking about when I was like, climbing the ladder. Into it. Yeah, fighting. Okay. I'm trying to be pro. Like, I try to legit be pro.
Starting point is 00:26:30 So, like, I don't know if you know this. This is such good Lord. But I don't know if you know this. Like, I played Counterstrike professionally for about two years before that. Really? And then. What? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:39 I played a 2000. Did I hear that correctly? What is going on? Yeah, 2000. Trash, are you saying we can, can we find clips of you playing professionally. There's like maybe one clip on YouTube that you can watch. I'll show you after this. Are you still pretty good at FPSs? I was
Starting point is 00:26:56 really good. I know, but are you still like... All my old teammates if you see this, don't talk trash about me, okay? Yeah, good point. Your name is trash. You can talk about trash? That was true. Can you still play? Like, can we hop on Apex Legends and go? Well, that's a completely different game than counterstery. Yeah, but it's still, I'm so washed, dude. Ballerent, geez, come on, fine.
Starting point is 00:27:13 Okay, we can wait back. I'm so large. It's to the point where, like, I expect myself to be as good as when I was like in college. So when I play for like 30 seconds and I suck, I just get so mad because I'm so competitive. And we're slower now. Slower. Hundreds of milliseconds. So like, yeah. It's embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:27:30 I got dial-up speeds now going out of my head. Yeah, so I was on a team based out of Maryland and we used to just do East Coast lands and then we would travel to Texas and do international tournaments. Trash, that's so cool. That is cool. No joke. That's so cool. Dude, I played like 14 hours a day. It was so bad.
Starting point is 00:27:46 during when yeah way yeah college so like so in the summer or in the summer 2005 2005 2006 dude so when I was doing
Starting point is 00:27:54 my music thing I had a laptop and what's the music thing you can't talk about that but when I was on tour I would bring my gaming laptop with me and we'll just be like in some Rinky Dink hotel
Starting point is 00:28:04 and hopefully they had Wi-Fi and then I would just practice on bots shooting practicing my head shots they're like what are you doing I was like practicing and then when I came back from like tour I would join like my clan and then start playing again
Starting point is 00:28:14 you'd be like I've been shooting nothing but heads Yeah, dude. In the gym. I've been doing only gym work for. You have to be dedicated to the craft. Like I said, I'm just, I obsess over things. And it's just like, it's good and bad. It's good and bad.
Starting point is 00:28:27 I love this. So we just found out like five games. That's a lot of lore drops. Yeah, that was good. I love that. Right now, though, it's Pokemon Go. I would say that your Pokemon Go, Lord is the worst.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Dude, we're talking about like the most intense first-person shooter of all time. One of the highest APM games of all time, the most intense strategy. No, I just do Pokemon. I walk around and I go like this. I'm actually scared to set up my gaming computer because I will just start playing too much. So I actually had a problem where I gave up games and I was like, okay, I'm playing games too much.
Starting point is 00:28:59 I'm going to stop playing games and I'm just going to code instead of gaming. Yeah, that's how I like, yeah. That sounds familiar, says the three other people. That's right. And then I like, I progressed pretty good in coding. I was like, cool. But I'm like, I want to play some games.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Yep. But man, I'm worried about it. Like, that's why I haven't kicked on the old things is because it was, it's dangerous. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You know what I mean? Because I did do a little, a little bit of a dabble in Fortnite for a while. Oh, I went to a fortnight phase. Yeah, I want to like a quick 400 hours in just like a couple months.
Starting point is 00:29:34 And I was like, I got to get it. I was like pretty good at building when you were able to build. I was like, you like you shoot one bullet at me and I build a mansion. Yes. And I'm like, a hotel with Wi-Fi is what I was ready. Dude, I tried to be a Fortnite streamer for a second, and then so I would have the typical, like, whatever my name is underscore TTV.
Starting point is 00:29:51 And then I would kill someone, and they'd go into my stream and just make fun of me, and I'm like, this is sad. Wait, you had the, what is it? So you had the, like, TV slash. You have your Twitch name underscore TTV. So when I, like, body somebody, they're just like, you're wet, you're lame.
Starting point is 00:30:07 I'm just like, you're awful. Maybe this game's just too toxic for me. Maybe I shouldn't do this anymore. Yeah, Fortnite's so toxic. Oh, it's too toxic. He just can go back to CF. Dude, I played league for a while, too, and that was... Is there anything you haven't played?
Starting point is 00:30:21 How good for you at least? No, I actually sucked really bad at league. It was actually... Could we do a team thing to see, can we get past bronze? Can we get out of bronze? I could not get out of bronze to say, really? In my head, I was like a diamond player. I was like, I'm so good.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Yeah, it's my team that's holding me back. Dude, it's 100% my team. It's all. Dude, it's real. It's real. When it comes to that. I try to get my friend to climb me out. out. I was like, take my password. Just give me to like
Starting point is 00:30:47 Silver or something, please. Wait, Primes play league? No, I've never played league. Okay, okay. I was like, I was like, you're not worst game. I've definitely met a lot of people who've decided to have a horrible time. Yeah, I have lots of friends who are like, hopelessly addicted, like it's not funny. They don't talk about it in a happy way. They're like, I have an addiction. I hate it.
Starting point is 00:31:03 I hate it. I play it every day. I hate it. And I'm like, what are you talking? Why do you keep playing? I'm addicted. I'm like, to what? If you keep saying you hate it, like, I don't fully get the league relationship. The funny thing is like, so the people that I play like Counter Strike with, there's like a core group of guys, they think they can be good at, they took Counter Strike way further than I did. Yeah. But they stay as a group and they're like, well, what game can we play and potentially go pro? So like, what game can we go pro? So they're like, what game can we go pro? So that's kind of like how I find out all these other games and try them out. Yeah. But like when you have that like competitive mentality, you just want to be the best every single one. You just want to like, you just want to like, you just want to make them cry. You just want him to sit there. He's a little min-maxer. I've seen this guy. I've seen this guy. But like, when you have seen this guy. I've seen this guy. at before.
Starting point is 00:31:46 It's nothing better than a noob stomping. Dang. I will say smurfing does. Like, I did only a few times in Halo, but it does feel good when you're just like, all right, I'm going to start up a new account. When someone bodies me, I'm like, that guy's smurfing. That guy's 100% smurfing. Who is he?
Starting point is 00:32:03 Yeah, it feels. Because you're in Bronx. They just made a new account and just crushes me. It feels good. It feels good. I'm good. I used to like to set up in perfect dark, you know, a hundred bots on the, you know, on meat.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Perfect Dark is the worst game. First off, you can only have at Max 8 bots on the Nintendo 64 Perfect Dark, and I prefer Judge Sim. Did you ever play 007? Wrong. Oh my gosh. You could have way more than eight. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Perfect Dark. Began, did you play 007 with the Golden Gun? I mean, I did, but I play, I was a perfect dark person because double O seven compared to it sucks. Perfect Dark was like the same. So lame. What are you taught? It's literally one million times better.
Starting point is 00:32:39 In the original Perfect Dark, the maximum simulant count in the combat simulator is eight, allowing up to, have four human players and eight bots, 12 in total, as I said, because I played perfect dark easily two, three thousand hours. Let me see what you're searching. How did you get that answer? Oh, guys, he's using the AI overview for that. Oh yeah, the AI overview is real.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Who are you going to believe? Would you like me to go to game frequently asked questions? GamePacks.com? Oh, well, let's go. Actually, that's one of my old video games. I used to live on that site. Dang. I actually used to go to CheekCode Central. That was more of my site. Do GameShark? Did you ever get into any of the Game Sharks cheating? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Game Shark would require buying a device. And as a child... It's so exciting, though. Sadly, I had the... My, uh... I grew up with, what do you call them, abuse of parents. And so they wouldn't let us have any games
Starting point is 00:33:25 that weren't educational. And so... Is that what you classify as abuse? Oh, his parents wouldn't celebrate his birthday either, so I got those devices. I didn't... I remember when I thought you guys were joking. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Yeah, so, yeah, no birthdays. And then, no, I wasn't getting video games. So I had to buy, I had to buy everything myself. So for the, uh, super S-N-E-S-N-S, I was able to able to successfully over the lifetime of our system we were able to acquire three games. It took, there's $60. Games are actually more expensive back then
Starting point is 00:33:52 than they are today. There's $60 each. So, Donkey on Country 1. Nice. Which I still, over and over. Nogh. ZK.1. It was so good. Amazing. It's still a good game. This is so bad, and I thought it was the other Kirby game. I saw a friend playing a Kirby game. It looks so fun.
Starting point is 00:34:07 I saved up forever and then bought it at Sears. Curvy game's terrible. I didn't even get the right one. I bought, the bean Kirby one the Kirby like it's um Tetris so I got it and there's like 70
Starting point is 00:34:20 not even Dreamland or whatever not Dreamland it was I can't remember what it's called and guess what I still play it all the time right now because it's the only game that I'm good at and so I'm like this is all I have Is it like a Dr. Mario type thing? It's exactly like Dr. Mario and then the last one which my dad did help with Ken Griffey Jr. baseball
Starting point is 00:34:36 he's like okay kid you're gonna be playing if you're gonna play games I played Ken Griffey Jr. actually that was a good game so that was all I was able to acquire for these S&ES for the lifetime of me having it. No extra games. So I only have played three games, but I'm very good at them. And then once I...
Starting point is 00:34:51 That matches your personality better anyways, though. Well, no. What do you mean by that? I mean, Began plays exactly the same thing over and over and over. It's how I became. I became a speed runner. Because I just played Donkey Gun Country
Starting point is 00:35:01 over, it over, it beat it faster, beat it faster, beat it faster. And then once I learned what speed running once, I'm like, that thing I do, it was literally like... How fast can you beat... Well, I mean, like, what's the record on DonkeyCon? Oh, it's so fast.
Starting point is 00:35:13 It's so fast. I used to know the actual stats of it. Is there like bugs to where you can skip levels? Insane marks? No, it's not quite as crazy in Donkey Kong. There are crazy skips. There's actually a guy void that I watch on Twitch pretty often, like working on that record.
Starting point is 00:35:26 I play that game and then Donkey Country 2, which I did not own as a child. I thought I bought as an adult and I play a lot. He wrecked his life and bought it. DK2 has like the little one, the little dude. His name is, well, first of all, Diddy is in both games. Did he? Dixie is in, is in, uh...
Starting point is 00:35:42 Did he was in those? games? Yeah, you know, they've been trying... This is actually one of the saddest things. Wait a hot. Did he have an island? Yeah, he did. I don't let you know, but of the
Starting point is 00:35:51 Donkey Kong country universe, don't Kong universe, they've been trying to erase Diddy from it, I think, because... No way. No, they keep not mentioning Diddy. Is it like... Diddy parties in those days?
Starting point is 00:35:59 Exactly. They're afraid of like... It's just everything sounds bad with Diddy in the name now, right? I completely forgot I was Diddy Kong. Were you the one that showed me that Joel Javier or whatever
Starting point is 00:36:12 it was a cartoon? of the Donkey Kong one. Yeah, Donkey Kong 64, yeah. No, the actual games I had growing up, games that my parents bought me, is I played in Carda 95. You ever play that? Someone out there had in Carda 95.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Explain it to me. That's an educational game, isn't it? It's not a game. It's an encyclopedia that you go to your computer, and it's got a couple games. So I had the encyclopedia games that was like my compact Rosario or something, and I used to go hard on those.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Oh, I was going nuts. Yeah, when you said it, I was like, that's educational. No, no, that's all. My parents only would buy, educate. So I had that. I played, this is bad. The only there's like one math plaster. I don't know if you know, but Math Blaster, there's like 30 of them for math.
Starting point is 00:36:49 I had all, I had Math Blaster calculus too or whatever. The plot progresses in the math blaster universe too. They're in the same universe across the different game. 100%. You visit an island full of monkeys and then in the monkey lot. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. And Carta is a, diddy island?
Starting point is 00:37:05 Yeah, no, there was a whole, yeah, but a lot of educational games. And then I remember finally, you know, getting old enough to go over to Friends' house and be like, cool, what kind of games you got? You guys got in Carter? got it's got, and like, we're playing Super Mario World and I was like, oh my God, this is actually fun. And I'm like, oh, a game.
Starting point is 00:37:19 I was like, where are the quiz questions? This doesn't make any sense. The games I play are all, you watch a little video and then they ask you Hey, what was number seven's job? And also, that's what I'm very, very bad at games, and I would go over to
Starting point is 00:37:34 Friends' houses, and I'm like so bad. So sheltered. I can't participate. And then once people got into like the first person shooters in Halo, they're like, vegan. You can't play you can't be in our team for Halo. Like it was like, okay, Prime is so good. Beacon can be with Prime. That's how it all.
Starting point is 00:37:49 I was always paired with someone to nerf them. And it was like, and yeah. So. Yeah. I always had the problem of I'd play Halo, especially Halo 3 with, because I played with the internet. And so then I was like, oh, like, let's do a land party.
Starting point is 00:38:02 It lasts for like 30 minutes. Then everyone would go, let's do something else. It's like not fun anymore. It'd be like one on four. And I just be like, all right, everybody did. I've got to that scenario. Yeah. All right, go.
Starting point is 00:38:14 All right, teach. Okay, trash along. I'll go, I'll do a little bit of, like, a deeper dive into the past. The game that I played probably the most ever was Dota 2. Also, I didn't realize. Dota was too hard for me. Too hard, yeah. It's that makes sense league player.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Yeah. Wait, wait, hold on, when you say Deep Pass, are you talking about Warcraft 3 Dota? I said Dota 2. Okay, when did you start on Dota? That's why I started playing Dota 2. You know what I used to do? I would, like, since, like, I would try to play and I would keep overriding the courier or something.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Oh, yeah, yeah. Now everybody has their own courier, trash. So you wouldn't even be the most-ated person on the team. You're like, stop, taking the courier. Sorry, yeah, yeah. You're going to know you're still waiting to read the patch notes. I need that version because I was awful.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Yeah. That was probably the game that I played like the most of. I played that through college and like for quite a while. They always had good price. Did you watch like the competitions? Oh, yeah, that was fun. That was like. I would watch the competitions, but I couldn't play it.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Yeah, yeah. That was actually, what was funny was I just, first saw a video from Prime, which is what eventually got me into streaming and stuff on Twitch doing programming things. But I was only aware of Twitch as a means to watch professional Dota TV. Oh, really? It's funny.
Starting point is 00:39:23 Yeah, I was like, the site where they have the international? The guys on here doing programming? That sounds insane. I'll check it out. They have programming on the hot tub streamers? That's a little weird. That's how he stumbled in one.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Question. I know nothing about Dota other than I played for Warcraft 3. So that's like my knowledge is so dated. Which I even know what Dota stands for. Not a lot of people. Defense of the ancient. Yeah, I know. I did not even know that.
Starting point is 00:39:52 That's Warcraft 3, baby. But do people also hate their lives like they do with league? Because League and Dota are very similar in some sense. I think it's a... So I had fun playing Dota. Okay. But I think it's probably, I don't know if you think this trash, I think league players hate their lives more often than...
Starting point is 00:40:11 Oh, 100%. What makes league hateable? What makes league hateable? I think it's the people. It's the community. Yeah, okay, right. The community. Lead players in the comments, you can just probably agree.
Starting point is 00:40:22 It's my team. You're the problem. Yeah, yeah. Well, it's because everyone thinks they're, I mean, everyone thinks they're good. Everyone thinks they're good. Yeah. I don't really know why it is.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Oh, it's Twitter. I think the other thing for it, too, for league. It's human. Is there's like stuff you can do to unlock characters and, like, get new, or here, what do they call it? They call them characters. or heroes in league?
Starting point is 00:40:43 What do they call the... I don't even know. I erased that game from my memory. Sadness. Legends. I think they're legends. Are they? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Because it is League of in fact legends. Dang, okay. I don't know. Well, the people that you can play as, you like unlock them. And so I think that makes people feel like sunk cost fallacy for it, maybe. So they get stuck hating
Starting point is 00:41:02 that they spend all this time or money to unlock characters. Whereas for Dota, it's always like all the characters are always free. Gotcha. So then maybe there's something going on. You just like buy skins or something? Is that how they do it?
Starting point is 00:41:12 is the only thing you bought so many skins quick question now did you watch League of Legends the cartoon I watched the first season yeah oh yeah you're talking about like the Netflix one yeah what's it called again oh my goodness you're not called League of Legends Arcane you're talking about Arcane yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:41:27 Arcane that was close title League of Legends oh is it I never watched it because I hate that game so okay smart trash don't and don't it was really good though I heard it was good when was the last time you played Dota though like how long ago was this addiction? How long have been clean?
Starting point is 00:41:45 I'm trying to think I don't think I played since I had kids probably so at least five years. It's probably for the best. Yeah, it was. Well, it was like I really, like, I had fun. You choose one. I played the game
Starting point is 00:41:57 and I had fun. Okay, thanks, Tresch. Thanks, Tresch. Don't mind me. We're not. It's okay. Like, it didn't matter whether I won or lost.
Starting point is 00:42:07 Like, I had fun playing the game and I enjoyed even like trying to grind rank and stuff. So it was like, I would have just played all the time if I had the option. So it was like, okay, that probably I have to just be like done with that. So then I stopped playing for like a decent amount of time. I think around when I was done with college. And then I just played like some fun games with my friends occasionally after that for a while.
Starting point is 00:42:29 And I just was like, I won't play ranked because then I'll want to play like a lot. And Dota has a moat. I don't know if league has one similar called Turbo, where it's like basically the game, you get like more money and more experience more quickly. So you can play the game in closer to like 15 to 20. Yeah, like the game speed itself is still the same. Right. So it's like, you know, you want to cast a stun.
Starting point is 00:42:49 It's not like it flies twice as fast or something like that. But then that was what I would always play with my friends because we would play like a game in 15 to 30 minutes. It was like, oh, that's chill. Like it's a lot more fun than like occasionally getting stuck for like an hour. Yeah. An hour. Yeah, for one game. Yeah, HALA is 12 minutes.
Starting point is 00:43:05 That's the part with MOBAs that's hard. But it's also what makes it so fun, I feel like, is because it's like, like when it's competitive. Yeah, yeah, well, and you know, but then when you lose
Starting point is 00:43:15 after all that time, you're like, what am I doing? People hate their life is because you have to spend an hour. To lose 25, Elo.
Starting point is 00:43:21 Yeah, that's what, you see the red minus 25. That does not. Well, it's also, it's also worse when you know
Starting point is 00:43:27 you're going to lose in the first five minutes, but you have to wait like 20 minutes to surrender. And you're just like, I don't even know what everyone starts griefing
Starting point is 00:43:33 and feeding. Actually, I think the other thing, league still has surrender, right? Conced. I don't think you can surround it until like 20 minutes. Yeah, but you can concede.
Starting point is 00:43:41 I'm saying in Dota, you can't concede. I think that's another thing that makes Dota less toxic. Is because as soon as something goes wrong in league, concede, bros, bros, pros, pros, pros, concede. And everyone's, like, angry. Yeah, everyone's disagreeing, so you just stay in the game. And if you leave, you can't do that. And if someone, like, just, like, griefs or does other stuff,
Starting point is 00:43:59 they'll get, like, bad stuff happen to their account. Or, like, you try and throw the game intentionally. People can report you and stuff. So then a lot of times, like, I had plenty of games playing Dota, where minutes one through 20, you were like, we lost no matter what. And then, you know, you're just playing with other bad people. Right. So they do something stupid.
Starting point is 00:44:18 They like try and dive into your base and kill you and stuff. They give you, you end up getting like 5,000 gold. Your team. And then you start carrying? Your team picked no support characters only, only. I'm the attack guy. Me, I'm a tech guy. I know we had four attack guys.
Starting point is 00:44:33 I pick attack guy. But if they go and die and then give you a bunch of, money and now it's minute 25. You're like, oh, now we have five insane late game characters. We'll win. So, like, that happened plenty of times like playing Dota, which I think that might be, that was one of the other things that I always thought made a big difference in, like, the psychology of the game.
Starting point is 00:44:50 Because you have a button you can press to say, let's be done. As opposed to, the only way we lose is when they beat, like, they destroy the engine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm trying to think the last game I played a lot of hours was Breath of the Wild. Oh, nice. I'm just about to beat Tears of the Kingdom. Oh, you remember, really? I stopped.
Starting point is 00:45:09 I was loving it, and then I stopped, but I beat Breath of Wild and loved it. I was completely different. I beat that one, like, six, seven times. Oh, wow. When I played Breath of the Wild, I think that was actually pre-kids because it was so long ago. And I was like, I'm going to do the same thing. And I was like, already on kid two. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Played for like five minutes. I was like, I'm going to sleep. I was like, I can't even. So it's just sitting on my switch. I was like, I just don't have energy. Tears of the Kingdom is kind of sad in the sense that you get, you go through and you're beating everything. You get through like the four. It's like the same game again.
Starting point is 00:45:34 get through your four things the story's really monotonous and then you go and fight Gannon and then you fight like his little buddies Gannadorf's buddies and then the story's just like up well you gotta figure out where the fifth guy is and then there's just no information
Starting point is 00:45:48 you're just like I don't know so I'm just like wandering around the gloom right now down and there's no information apparently there's like 15 story parts you have to go figure out by talking to ran into people it's a good game to wander though I like I know but I'm too old for that shit the one thing I didn't like about the game was
Starting point is 00:46:02 you can like fly on this little metal thing you can like attach. Yeah, that's fun. I couldn't figure out how to fly, so I would just fall up, like I would put on the edge, and I would just go, you have to get enough speed.
Starting point is 00:46:14 You have to balance it. Yeah, you have to, like, slide down something, right? But I would be on, I would be, like, on an island with no ramps. Wait, you know, you know, you can get a little, like, handles that you put on it. There's a handle you can do to drive it.
Starting point is 00:46:26 Clearly, I didn't know. That one thing made you quick. Yeah, I had the fans. I would literally be on the edge, have the fans on. What about the jet engines? Yeah, you could. that's what made me stop playing to be honest
Starting point is 00:46:37 literally that mechanic well it is a totally typical Zelda games oh great story we're finding it's and this one it's like cool engineering mostly just sit here and just you can make it just a totally different world in game let me play I will say the game that I've been playing the most recently is sleigh that's like if I'm I'll play like part of game the other thing I like
Starting point is 00:46:54 for sleigh is like if I have 10 minutes I can play one and then I just pause and pick it up the next day does that mean you guys like Harstone then because Harstone's like a work craft Never played Heartstone, but I think I would have probably liked it, yeah. Because you guys liked that universe, apparently? I never played any of the rough games. I never played that.
Starting point is 00:47:12 I never been a fan of deck builder games in general. We were all Bellatro boys, right before that. I love Bellatro. I still am Bellatro boy. I mean, Blotro. Did you never do any Belatro at all, Trash? I never did any deck building games in general. Oh, my God. Just do Balochro.
Starting point is 00:47:22 I don't get it. That's because you've ever had a good deck. Every time I watch you all play, I don't get it. No, no. Once you build one good deck and it starts popping off, you'll go, I get it. And then you'll be chasing that feeling until you have a totally new deck. and then you have two feelings you're chasing. Then you build a third deck.
Starting point is 00:47:35 Now you're chasing three feelings. It is, you've never... It's fun. It could be really, really fun. Really satisfying. To get like an all natural E plus 20. Also, you know, it's so frustrating that he's a Pokemon.
Starting point is 00:47:45 He's a Pokemon collector. Uh-oh, trash. Who is like, I don't like card games. He's like, what are you talking about? I know. You're the one ruining God hobby, okay?
Starting point is 00:47:55 He just wants to see. He just wants to scalp us. All right, so games that we're excited for. For me, the two big ones that I'm really excited for is actually trying to build something that's engineering into either Minecraft or Terraria. I think that's just going to be fun.
Starting point is 00:48:08 I actually think there's something a really fun idea of like can you actually make a web server and like Cloudflare tunnel it out and actually like, okay, this thing's serving real traffic. This is a fully real game. The other one that I want to try,
Starting point is 00:48:22 but I don't think we can get enough people or there exists such a thing. But it's similar to the idea I had a while ago. It would be fun to try and do one iteration of like at GPT by hand, like do the matrix multiplication. It would be hilarious to get like 50,000 people on a Minecraft server,
Starting point is 00:48:39 and then you do, you try and have them flip the levers of a neuron. And then do an LLLLW. We could do, well, you know, like the MNSK handwriting recognition? We could do like a simple MLP. Yeah, yeah, that would be funny. It's just like, hey, this is just like a four-layer MLP, or we can do an RBF, which is a single layer. So you could actually, like, really get close to it.
Starting point is 00:48:59 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they have to hand calculate out the radio basis. I have no idea what you guys just said right now, but I'm gonna nod my head. Sounds cool. Sounds cool. The best part about video games is implementing LLMs inside of them.
Starting point is 00:49:11 But the hard part about that is that the neurons fire with floating values, whereas you have just like a on and off. You could make, we could, yeah, there's a way of making floats in it. Yeah, I guess you could just have like five switches and it really represents like two to the negative one, two to the negative two to the negative three.
Starting point is 00:49:29 They could have eight switches and then everyone's got a U and eight. Yeah, but then, but it's all. all a point, right? It's all less than one. Yeah, right. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, two of the negative one, two, two to the negative eight. Yeah, okay, that's beautiful. Okay, but prime, you also have to be excited about it's literally like the biggest moment in a long time.
Starting point is 00:49:44 No, that's, I actually would rather do that. I think that would be a very great thing to start with. Handwritten recognition. Okay. Or something like that. One of those two. It's fun to do. All right. So as long as we can build that before Slay this Pire 2 comes out, we're good to go. That's what we need to do. We just have to start it now before Slay. two comes out because honestly I think all of us are going to transition no more programming content only slide aspire to play the spire two what is that is that actually coming out this year this year i don't remember i'm actually very worried that it's springtime which is a very very soon i'm very worried
Starting point is 00:50:16 at springtime i love being i love being worried that a video game is coming out and then the worst part is and i mean we're going to have to roll play very hard wait gtase six i thought they delayed till 2027 at least i think you're right they did delay it again it's going to get delayed again after you're safe okay okay there's a non-zero chance and i mean you're saying there's a non-zero chance that GTA 6 will be delayed enough years that we'll have an AI powerful enough just to make GTA 6. Exactly. Is that going to happen? I think honestly, that's what they're doing. They probably don't actually have anyone working for the company anymore.
Starting point is 00:50:46 They lost the technology, didn't they? Right. Someone deleted the backups and the Git repo and everything, and they're like, okay, well, here's our chance. We can either tell everyone we lost the game or... This running into Ralph? We wait for Opus 37.5 and Codex 19, and we... say, make me GTA 6. No mistakes. No mistakes. Did you guys actually play the GTS? I played like the early ones. I didn't play any Began. They're saying that early access could
Starting point is 00:51:14 very well be in March, 2026. I was worried that there was a spring launch. See, it's not even spring. That's the worst part. That's soon, bro. That's soon. That's like, that's like we've better to make a lot of videos. We have a problem. We got to keep up for six months, bro. Yeah. It's going to be an issue. Yeah. Okay. Well, that's the one I'm excited for.
Starting point is 00:51:32 So I thought Bellatra was supposed to get some updates this year too. There was, there's just a, like another patch update. It was going to be, I believe,
Starting point is 00:51:39 in the winter. And he says, hey, it's going to take a bit longer. No big deal. That would be fun. I would be excited to see some new Bellatra for me.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Yeah, a new patch would be awesome. Yeah. I'm down for that. Yeah. There's a new Dota 2 here, but I'm not going to test him up. He's a frog. Okay.
Starting point is 00:51:52 I hate frogs. Yeah. There are a couple, There are a couple other goofy games I've seen just like being on like my Twitter. I've seen that I've put on my list like. Oh, dude. Jay Blows game. Oh,
Starting point is 00:52:03 That's coming out soon. The Sinking Star. Yes. I think we should all play it. That's a cool game. No, it's a, it's a puzzle game. So we're going to find out who's actually the smartest one.
Starting point is 00:52:11 We're going to be doing speed running against each other. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. Yes. So the other one I saw, I saw it on Twitter and I'm going to find it, but it was a Minesweeper rogue like. And I don't know if you know, but I'm really good at Minesweeper. Are you?
Starting point is 00:52:24 I could never beat that game. Once you... I could never beat that game. Well, once you learn the rules, it's like, you know, pattern recognition. You get faster and fast. And soon you don't even... The rules, it tells you the numbers. It literally tells you.
Starting point is 00:52:35 I didn't have the patience to, like, figure out them. It's like, one. I don't know. It's a guessing game of some sort. I was literally guessing. Like, numbers are low over here. I was guessing. Like, I would click until, like, you hit one where, like, reveals, like, most of it.
Starting point is 00:52:48 And then it gets kind of hard after that. Once it reveals, that's where it gets easy. That gives you the information on what you're press. It will tell you what the press. I didn't have the patience. Okay. This search Mind Sweeper Roguelike. I could beat the Small Grids.
Starting point is 00:53:00 I'll send you a link later. Trash, what about you? Anything exciting coming out to see for you? Or we'll let you substitute out from a game into a Pokemon event. Any Pokemon pasts? Any Pokemon releases? Do they Pokemon releases their full schedule for the year? No, I know.
Starting point is 00:53:12 So Pokemon's coming out. There's like two sets coming out like in the next month, three months. Okay. So I got to get on that. Of course. But in terms of games, I'm like one of those, you know, are you like one of those people that just listening? to the same music from like when you're in high school
Starting point is 00:53:26 1,000% yeah that's how I am with game that's how I am with game so I'm like I'll just play StarCraft again you know what I'm saying I'm excited for RTS event that will be fun StarCraft is like the classics when it comes to music it's good we're command and conquer you the one
Starting point is 00:53:40 I played a lot of Red Alert dude me too yeah past the coils the one I play the most was very nostalgic Age of Empires 3 I'm further at AO2 I played AOE 2 I never played AOE
Starting point is 00:53:51 but I like 3 can I tell you my favorite age of Empire story. Yeah, of course. So me and my roommates, we'd all do big age of empire battles. Yeah. And it came down to just three of us left. Yeah. It was two on two. And one group, he was new, so he barely had an army
Starting point is 00:54:06 and the other group that was not doing so well. So we're just like, all right, hey, we're going to destroy the first guy. And we're very excited about this. So he'd come and we just completely wipe out the first guy. Yeah. And then as we were doing that, the other one was just like, oh man, can I become your ally? Can we do all this? And we're like, sure. So he becomes our ally.
Starting point is 00:54:23 But we're like not his ally, so he can't attack us and we start killing him. And he just can't attack that. And then all of his units run up to us and then peacefully protest as we just try that. Dude, I love backstabbing people.
Starting point is 00:54:38 How do I kill you? And we're like, I don't know, you just stand. Backstabing people is so funny. My favorite AOE2 thing was be going to love this because he loves that I was a good student in school and had different experiences than he didn't in high school.
Starting point is 00:54:52 We call those nerds. Yeah. my AP My AP calculus class He mentions AP calculus like 10 times a dick Yeah, that's so true Began I took when I was a junior
Starting point is 00:55:05 But most of the class was senior So there's like three of us left You're smart, dee There's three of us left He can't help himself He can't help It's important to the story And I ended up teaching the class
Starting point is 00:55:14 No, not in that one I had a good AP Calc teacher So Seniors get out early I don't know if they did this at your thing, where it's just like they're done with school before everyone else. I don't have that. I don't take AP Cal because I don't know.
Starting point is 00:55:29 No, I'm saying they were literally just graduated and were done with school like a few weeks before everyone else. Yeah, we didn't have that. I don't know. I don't really know why. It seems weird. You gotta go to school the whole year? Oh, I guess you guys were dumber.
Starting point is 00:55:40 Yeah, you did. So anyways, so it's just our teacher and us three. So I figured out how to get A.O.E 2 on a USB, just a regular USB stick with no, like you didn't have to install or do anything like just the executable on there. So we would just get. So we would just get the, like, computers from a computer rack and go bring them into class, and we'd just play AOE2 for the rest of the year with our teacher. It's really just three of you?
Starting point is 00:56:03 I'm saying, and he would just, he was like, yeah, let's put it up on the projector. So school ends for you, too, basically? Well, in that class, I'm saying, because there was no one else. Because he was the only junior, right? Right, yeah. That's crazy, though. There was no one else. Just for that class.
Starting point is 00:56:15 I'm saying, what are you supposed to do? We already took the, we already took the AP exam. We did everything else. So we just got to play age of Empires, too, for three weeks. What people were you? I like playing the Brits because I like spamming longbows. Dude, I was about to say you're going to be a longbowar. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:27 Longbo. Hey, you know what? Yeah. Yeah. I don't understand. I don't understand. That's where the middle finger comes from. They draw it with these two and they, that's why when you watch British people count like this one too, because this is F you.
Starting point is 00:56:43 Oh, interesting. Because the French would cut off the fingers from the long bow, man. Oh. That's where our middle finger comes from. That's a new lore. It's a new lore Well, I just liked longbow guys That could shoot from far away
Starting point is 00:56:55 So that was I hate it I will say conscription With the longbows And the upgrade is pretty good That's what I like So there you go That's my AOA2 story
Starting point is 00:57:03 But I always found them I always found the monogamous unit type Of just doing gigantic Well you couldn't just spam them People just build some horses And then you die I know but that's what I wanted Was 200
Starting point is 00:57:14 200 of 200 longbows Walking towards people And every time something showed up on the stream They just died It was very exciting. It was very, very exciting. I like what you got so many that you couldn't select,
Starting point is 00:57:26 like you couldn't actually select them off. Right, yeah, you had to get them in multiple, like, control groups. Battalions. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I love, uh, Bowman arrows. I make fun of me because of that story, but how it's,
Starting point is 00:57:38 I, this, whatever, it's fun. We get it. We get it. High school, it's like, he walked in a class, teacher asked a question, answer it right away, he says, whoa, whoa, whoa,
Starting point is 00:57:45 why don't you just teach it? He came up there. It did happen, that did happen in one class speaker. He's literally Hermione. Yeah, he's her, Yeah, you're, that's actually a pretty good analogy. Unfortunately for me, that's a pretty good analogy. Really unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Did you watch Lure the Rings? Yeah? So the two, they're, um, how could you know? I'm like, shocked by the question. Well, I'm saying, battle the Helms deep, like when the elves come at the end. Okay, yeah. And then they're just shooting all the arrows. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:09 It's like, I'm like all about arrow warfare. Yes. Okay. He was, I'm like, we were making foot of him calling him Hermione and you just saved him. I know, but. Thanks, Chuck. I don't think you guys understand how Nerdery M. Belt, just like...
Starting point is 00:58:23 Bow and arrow stuff. It's so cool. Are you a little disappointed that the Battle of Helms Deep did not feature any of the ends, as they did in the book? Yeah, I mean, it's fine. It's not the biggest deal. My biggest thing is just... Hey, be thankful for what you got. Because the...
Starting point is 00:58:37 Dude, I watched the Battle of Helms Deep like 300 times. It's like my favorite... My favorite scene is when the ladder comes down and they all start spreading away. That's like, that was a very cool thing. I've, like, examined everything frame by frame just to see, like, when they get smashed by the rocks. Like how,
Starting point is 00:58:52 like are they actually getting smashed by the rocks? They did. They actually killed real orcs for the life. I know. Well, trash, are you going to see,
Starting point is 00:58:58 you know it's in theaters again, right? Lord of the Rings' extended edition is in theaters. Oh. Like right now. I haven't been to a movie theater in years. I know.
Starting point is 00:59:05 I actually, if it's still in there next weekend, like I'm going to try to go with kids. Me too. Me too. With the kids. With the kids. I got to find some kids.
Starting point is 00:59:13 I was like, what? All right. Now it's just weird. All right. Hey, thank you very much for joining us on this very special episode of the stand-up. Hopefully this lightened your loafers.
Starting point is 00:59:25 I don't think that's the right phrase. I don't even know what that means. Hopefully this lightened your load? I don't think it's also. How about just, how about we, hopefully we made you laugh. Lying your mood. Lying the mood. Take some time to occasionally relax.
Starting point is 00:59:38 Ooh. Oh, oh. Go ahead, Brian. Uh, DJ, thank you for saying it so eloquently. And thank you for being a teacher's pet. I always appreciate that. He is the only junior here. He is the junior, obviously.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Wasn't the teacher's pet? I just... He was the teacher. I was friends with them. I was friends with them. I wasn't their pet yet. We were like best friends. We were like best friends, okay.
Starting point is 01:00:02 True. All right. Thank you very much for watching. We have Began. We have Trash. We have T.J. And the name is the primogen. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:00:09 See everybody. Bye. See you next week. Boot up the day. Fibco. Errors on my screen. Terminal coffee in hell

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