The Telepathy Tapes - S2E54: When Caelum Came Back Part II | Talk Tracks

Episode Date: October 2, 2026

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Hey everyone is Kai. Mark your calendars for October 7th because season three of the telephthy tapes, the reincarnation records is coming. Hi everyone, I'm Kai Dickens and welcome to the Talk Tracks, brought to weekly by TTT Media. In this series, we explore the threads that weave together our understanding of reality, science, spirituality, consciousness, and even unexplained phenomena. Because every era has ideas once dismissed as impossible until someone was willing to investigate them seriously. And on this show, We do just that.

Today, we're digging into part two of Kalim's story. If you've not listened to Part 1, which features Kalam and his mom, Anne-Marie, I encourage you to go back and listen to that now. At 17 months, Kalam suffered a non-fatal drowning, and Kalam has not just persevered, but really broken all the odds. Kalem shocked doctors all the more when he learned to communicate via facilitated communication. And when Kalem started typing, and he expressed an awareness of different dimensions, or realms and a spiritual life and an understanding of God that the family still is working to

comprehend. Kalam has asked for a break. And so at this point, joining Kalem's mom, Anne-Marie, and a second will be Jacob, the big brother. And here he comes. Okay, so Jacob, why don't you introduce yourself how old you are, where you are in the birth order compared to Kalam? Yeah, I, okay, I'm 26 years old. I am Kailom's... youngest, older brother, older sibling. I'm second last. Camel's the youngest, I'm second youngest, and then we got the four older siblings.

Okay. So you two are closest in age? Yeah, yeah. Probably closest overall, too, I'd say. I've spent more time with Kalam than any of my siblings, really. Not to say we didn't spend a bunch of time together, but just after the older siblings moved out and everything, all that stuff, I was still at the house.

I was young enough to still be there working with him. And I have been since the journey started. And you have learned to type with him as well, correct? Yeah, yeah. Definitely to more limited degree, but he loves when we do it together, especially when there's something in his speech that I can't understand or that there's some more complex thought that he wants to share. Yeah, we'll defer to FC.

He's like, where's my, we'll sit on the couch and we have his, his board over on a cabinet off to the side and he'll like point he's like I want to type I want to type you know we'll just grab it and even if he wants to share something really simple like here's what I want to do today or I want to go to this place I want to try this thing you know it's small stuff like that but it's good to flex those muscles with him too you know what are some of the things are there anything's very surprising or funny or interesting that he shared that you'd like to it's kind of coincided with his speech and his behavior as well but he's definitely a trickster you know he likes to mess with people he likes to push buttons you know because i think that's another one of the ways he really exercised some agency before he could communicate really effectively was to like mess with you test the water stuff like that um i think the funniest moments are when he expresses frustration with something because he's really good at not showing that most of the time and it's really funny when i type with him and he says something about my behavior that upset him because He'll literally write like, hey, you did this thing earlier, and it pissed me off.

And he'll type that out with me. I'll be like, oh, my God, I had no idea. You know, let's talk about it. And then, you know, we'll use, like, a combination of his speech and the typing to have a conversation that way. And the big thing is really just encouraging him, you know, even when he feels shy or unsure. I tell him, take your time. You know, sometimes thoughts take some time to percolate before you can put them to words. So, yeah, we take it slow and we talk about fun stuff.

I mean, we do talk about some of the more, I don't know, esoteric things as well. But I'm usually, I was usually the scribe in that capacity for some of those lengthy discussions, you know, which is honestly where Kalam kind of preferred me because I don't make as many spelling mistakes as dad. So he likes when I keep everything neat and clean in the journal. So that's funny. So you talked about the program in Philadelphia being really difficult not for the faint of heart. And I want to talk about how that involved the whole family, too. Like Jacob, I'm sure you had to sacrifice a little bit of time, either with your parents or even just trying to learn how to manage your life in a way that could, you know, really support Kalem.

Yeah. So from both of your points of view, what was that like? Well, so it was very demanding. It was all day, every day. The way that Kalim responded right at the outset kind of set the tone for the excitement that the rest of us felt about his progress. I mean, we were measuring things in centimeters as far as movement, and then when you see him go a meter, it kind of inspired everyone to really want to continue the program.

But, you know, because of the relationship, I mean, Jacob had with Kalem before the accident, I mean, I just went out, was looking at some old photos, for example, and I could see that Jacob had Kalem on his lap and they were reading books together. Jacob was all, I mean, he was in love with that baby when he was born, and that love carries through in such a profound way even now. But during those early years, when we were really getting involved and invested in that program, it was a high demand. But Jacob, we always asked for the participation, and it was never something that was required. But the joy that Jacob, you know, we could see it in him too, with the progress that his brother was making, really compelled him to

want to continue participating, it was just sort of built into our family as a unit as, you know, this is where our new normal kind of looks like and everyone is participating. You know, you never leave that one person behind type of mentality, but the joy factor was really something that the institutes taught us to make everything joyful. I love that, though. I love that they talk about joy because, like we talk about that in our family, like be a joyful giver. If you give something to someone, you're angry about it. Everyone's it. I don't. You know, like if you're going to give, let it fill you both up and let it be joyful. And I would imagine if for someone being given such dedication of time and effort, if it was like,

I have to do this for you again. That's not a motivating factor. Not at all. Yeah. Yeah. How about for you, Jacob? Yeah. Like we're saying, joy was a huge part of the journey.

I think with Kalam and me, it was just always so accessible, you know. And I definitely do think, you know, like mom's saying, it's not for the faint of the heart, right? And we also had eight of us or seven us, seven of us to rally around Kalem. It's a lot easier when the family unit comes together. So I think that was kind of intrinsic to our family even before Kalam's accident. You know, it's a really good reminder of what I have to be thankful for, the experiences that I don't want to take for granted, right? And we've had some wonderful journeys and trips that we've taken

that we really wouldn't have if we hadn't been on this journey. if Caleb hadn't shared all of his insights, you know, and his perspectives. So we sent some really wonderful, I mean, we sent some questions to your family from us and from listeners. So there's a hodgepodge. And it's, I'm sure you both were a big part of working with him to get these answered and written down. Do you want to go through them and read the questions and his answers? Sure. Yeah.

What do you want others to know about who you are? And Kalem. I am a very unique person and have extreme abilities that are not very available to most people. I had an accident as a small child and I was not in this reality for an hour or so at that time. During this gap, I was immediately in the presence of God. His existence fully encompassed me and I was basically in his consciousness. I was actually love itself and was strikingly aware of all information that ever was, is, and will be. Wow. When he wrote that, did you have any follow-up questions for him? We did, but traveling through all of his communication, he's kind of answered those in the past as well. So we wanted to also be cognizant of not asking him to just, you know, go back and repeat. But, you know, it's indicative of his connection to God. I mean, that his, I remember Jacob was about 12. and Jacob and I were having a conversation

I'll never forget this. Jacob came to me and he says, you know what, Mom, I'm not afraid to die now. And I said, what do you mean? He goes, now that Kalam has told us the things that he's shared, I'm not afraid to die because I know the hope that he's provided

by what he has shared to me, so I don't have that fear any longer. And I just remember being so struck by that, But I think, too, the conversations about Kalam's purpose coming back to be the teacher has really changed the landscape of our entire family. I mean, it's deepened my faith and my husband's faith, too. Oh, I was going to pause you for saying because I don't know what you're referencing when he said coming back to be a teacher. Because so that was something that he told us early on that he did reiterate, which we'll share. But he said that he was given a choice, whether to be a teacher. to stay in the presence of God for all time, or to come back to this reality,

and he chose to come back here because he wanted to be a teacher, and that his purpose was to teach humanity. Beautiful. All right, Jacob, do you want to read the next one? Yeah. What do you want others to know about what you know and experience? I'm able to access multidimensional realities,

sometimes all at once, and the times it seems to be separate. I also realize that this concept is very unlikely to be understood by most people. It is difficult for me to describe in the way to create the ability of understanding. This is a significant ability that I possess that could be very traumatic for the average individual.

My physical limitations do not represent anything about the other aspects of my true self. I am very blessed to have this experience and feel that this provides me the foundation of being complete despite my three-dimensional body. When he talks about a multi-dimensional experience, has he written about that before? What does he mean by that? My husband is a scientist, and so his questions sometimes are a little bit more interrogatory and interrogatively based.

But one time we were having this conversation about Kalam's abilities to be in multi-dimensions, and dad said, you know, well, can I do that? And Kalem basically told dad, if you could see what I can see, you would actually go insane. you would not be able to handle it. It would be just that overwhelming. Our telepathy tapes and merch store means a lot to us because any money made from our merch goes directly to nonprofits that support non-speakers. So when someone buys a hoodie, they're also supporting the community at the heart of this work. And I'm particularly grateful to Shopify, which we use as a platform behind the merch store. Shopify makes it so easy for listeners to shop our hats, shirts, and hoodies and support the amazing community behind this

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And we used to have him do a standing program, and I would have him in the standing device and be feeding him, and he would always be like looking over my head, like above my head. And so one day I said, you know, can I ask you a question about why are you always looking over my head? And he said, because I see your grace there. I can see your grace there. He can see energy around people. He can get an, he knows.

He knows immediately who a person is when he first meets them because I think he can see into that other aspect of energy. I mean, you're talking about unified field theory. He knows all about that without knowing what that is because he's telling us that he can see all of this. He can see energy. He can feel it. He is an empath of a true sort. We had to learn early on, if you stubbed your toe or cut your finger, not to show any discomfort in front of him because it was actually, is if he was feeling your pain.

And so we had to learn how not to go in the other room and go, oh, ow, because he immediately would pick up on that. The other thing that he could do, that he still does, he almost did it when you had your green drink. I saw that. You saw him that he can taste what you're tasting, even though he's in another room. And there's something about his auditory capability

that I don't think is just his ears working. He can pick up conversations. He can, you know, assess people and what they're going through and immediately. One of the biggest things that we were amused by, which I'm sure a lot of the school people weren't, but he knew that the naysayers were coming over before they got to the house with his facilitated communication. And he would intentionally mess with them. I mean, there was one, he was a neuropsychologist that was doing some testing. This is a hilarious story that was trying to assess Kalem's ability with the communication.

And he got every single question wrong. Now, even if you were guessing, you would at least get 50%, but he intentionally chose the wrong answer every question because he knew that person was not a believer. And then this particular person asked Kalam, he put a baseball cap on his head and had like a penlight duct tape to the bill and was asking Kalam like to point the light on cards like here's a this shape, here's this shape. And, you know, I was just had Kalam in between my legs or sitting on the floor. And then the doctor asked Kalam, Kalam show me a circle. And so Kalim started moving his head and a son. circle using the pen light to draw a circle in the air and I couldn't help myself. I just started cracking up and the doctor said, what's so funny? I go, he's showing you a circle. That is the, so,

you know, Kaelim is assessing people all the time, but, you know, he's also like Jacob, you know, the messing with, but it's not really messing with. It's like he's not going to engage with people who are not going to be fully invested in understanding where he's coming from and what he has to offer. I love that. Yeah. Okay, next question. What are your desires for yourself and humanity?

And Kalam answered, I am tasked with being a teacher. I was given the chance to stay forever in the presence of God, but was also given the option to return as a teacher. I want all people to know and realize their sovereignty and that God exists within each of us. This not only applies to those that are considered to be good, but that God is in all. Once this can be realized, the world will be elevated to a place of divine love and wisdom beyond this physical dimension restriction. The only true wealth we possess is love. This is the currency known across all realities. I love that.

The currency known across all realities. What does he mean by realities? That's just such a heavy word. Yeah. And that's the funny thing. He's never, I think what he said in the past is that, he either won't or he's not allowed to speak on what that really means and what that looks like. You know, you get the feeling that he uses his sensory sight, right?

Like mom was saying to pick up on things in the field. But that's the thing is that there are some things that, because one thing when we have discussions with him, we don't want to ask leading questions. We don't want to superimpose what our own perspective on what that would look like, which can be kind of difficult when he's talking. talking about things that, you know, we lack the understanding for. You know, how do you pose the question when you don't even know what question is correct, right? Right.

But yeah, it's just funny all this time later, even when we ask, try to get more specific with what that means, there's always just some kind of, that's for me and not for you. You know, I love that you said that because I feel like we've had a lot of conversations. And even in the telepathy tapes film coming out, there's over six years of, like, writings. and questions and answers. And so many individuals talk about having a multi-dimensional experience, being able to see beings and other dimensions. And that is kind of a universal thing that has been brought up. But then if I or anyone else seems to ask a follow-up question around, what do you see?

What are these dimensions? It's a complete brick wall. And I've almost stopped asking because it's like they're leading us and it's not fair to pry if If anyone is ready to share it, they will. Sure. Yeah. And, but I found the same thing. Yeah. Right. And he said as such, too.

There are things that he has told us where they're a little on the shocking side. Like, we're shocked, but he also has not allowed us to share very specific things. We have to keep it within the family. You know, no telling if he'll change his mind about, you know, being able to author that later. but he's specifically requested. Other things, he was only four when he typed this, he said, we have to use great discernment and who we share his information with.

Unbelievable. Okay, next question and answer. What are your dreams for your future or things you want to learn to accomplish? Caleb said, my future resides in my ability to share my wisdom. This information may not be able to be processed in this reality, but I made a commitment to provide it regardless,

you know, which is very true, you know, even when we can't understand things ourselves, you know, he provides it anyways. You know, that's just, he's like a well of information that way, especially when he really gets going, you know. How has all this changed you? Like mom shared when I was younger, I kind of let go of any preconceived notions I had about what to expect afterwards. And it's not really something.

I'm concerned with, you know, because ultimately I know what, based on what Calum has shared, that things are going to be okay, that energy moves in such a way that things come back to us, or they touch the people that we once knew, you know, in all the ways that Canelam has shared messages with us about teachers that we've had or friends that we've had, that letting us know, they're safe, they're okay. You know, so I definitely think there's, I don't know, less general anxiety about things all the time because with kalem there's uh this ultimate thing on the other side and that thing is love that thing is joy and he exemplifies that and how he lives and how he interacts he very rarely you know gets angry gets frustrated um he's never nasty he's never mean you know

and to have such a limitless amount of patience considering his limitations i'm like that is a wonderful exercise to practice for the rest of your life, just to have that level of patience. Yeah, beautiful. All right, Jacob, what's the next question there? Okay. What makes you the most happy about the world and what makes you most frustrated?

Kalam said, I am able to live in my joy, and this is something I wish for everyone. I'm not attached to this world in a manner that would create frustration for me. You know, reinforces the point, right? Case in point right there, you know. do you feel frustrated for others? He said, when I encounter these people,

I understand that they are unaware of their divinity. I want to expose those individuals to the idea that we are all God's creation and can elevate out of suffering by being in service to others. I love that. You can elevate out of suffering by being in service to others.

That's beautiful. The question, do you have suggestions, advice, or methods for us to truly advance the goal of peace and happiness for all beings. He verbally said yes, Kalam, and then went on, the idea of being different from God has to be discarded. He was very adamant about that statement. Being still, being silent, and in communion with the energy of God is imperative.

I have so much time in my experience here. That provides me this due to my physical limitations. and then how can people get closer to God? I think that was a question that we kind of threw in there. It's fine. I love that you did. And he said, to be intentional is the best way to manifest the relationship with the divine. In this reality, it needs devotion to the practice and the conversational aspect of being in God's awareness, which is interesting because a lot of times, and just recently, Kaelan will go to bed,

and then he's in his room talking for half an hour. And so the other day I asked him, I'm like, what's going on in there at night? And he said, I'm conversing with God out loud and just going on. But, you know, he starts his day. And he does it outwardly, I believe, for the benefit of us to tap into being in God's presence in every moment. because he operates, I believe, in that frequency throughout his day and even while he's sleeping. Has he ever talked about, like, denominations or certain religions, or is it just about God?

It's just about God, yeah. Yeah. Okay, this is actually about... Episode 9 of the telepathy tapes. We asked him about it in January. Oh, wow. Should I? Yeah, go ahead.

Calum says, I feel so validated. I want to share my story too, but I wanted to first be in the book from what we planned. Mom asked him, what do you think about Josiah? Kalim said he is consistently accessing further dimensions like I do. Only my work typically is structured into the higher realms. Mom, so not on this level?

Calam verbally, no. And that's just, little bits like that, we'll just write that down. Wow. And then move on. Yeah. Yeah. Unbelievable. Yeah.

So for people who hadn't heard that story in season one, episode nine, there was a young man Josiah that was basically hearing the prayers and knowing the inner workings of a writer miles away who he'd never met. And so that's what he was responding to. How serendipitous said that's the one. That's the one that we saw. A period that came to this, right? Yeah, that's really wonderful. Has he ever told, what did he say about the individuals in season one that?

experienced telepathy with their parents. Did he respond any of that? Ever talked about that? He did. I don't know where it is in this journal, but we did write it down because he said that he doesn't do telepathy. That's not, he's able to just bring it in. So more, I guess the more common word would be download,

that he's able to just download information and then it just comes out. But then he also is talking about accessing multidimensional and the field of information. I mean, you know, we look at, neuroscience now talking about, you know, our memories and everything is not stored inside our brain. It's outside of us, our consciousness. And so I think, but not telepathic at all. Interesting. Yeah, he's always, he's always talked about it in terms of being in the field as like the layman's term for him that he's used. I'm in the field. That's like, okay. Yeah. Well, and science is starting to prove that the field theory now. So not that we needed it or Kalem doesn't care. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's so funny because I forgot who, but someone. early on, it's, like, typed to me, like, there's a bouquet of spiritual gifts. Like, some of us have some, and others have others and some more pronounced and others less pronounced. And I, in the beginning, it was like, I don't know what that means yet,

you know, but it sounds like he's talking very clearly about what he, his experience of the world in this journal. Yeah. My father, his grandpa, passed away last year in August, and Kaelan, we were talking about grandpa. And so my dad was kind of in a coma the last few days. And we were talking to Kailom, and I said, you know, what's going on with grandpa? So the first thing Kailom did with his tell was yawn.

And then he said, Grandpa is staying close by. but is being transferred to his higher place. And so I just said, can you describe this higher place? And Kalam said, yes, it is a reality of God's consciousness. This is in direct relation to the information he gained from the lessons he experienced here, my dad. And then I'm sorry, Grandpa died. This was after my dad had passed away. And then so we just have these conversations ongoing, and we just grab the book and get their board.

And I just asked him a question. I said, the other night you said something about levels of consciousness. And I go, can you help other people understand in relation to your grandpa? And he said, Grandpa was subjected to many places as we all are. Mostly he decided to be benevolent even when it was painful for him emotionally. Because of this, he obtained a level far greater than most souls who are here or come here to learn. We are instructed only briefly about the karma to experience here.

The free will allows us to navigate our path in a way that takes care of it or makes it harder. I said, are some souls here by choice and others not? And he said yes. And then Dad asks the question, what's the difference? And Kalem said, that is a contract with God. So these are the types of conversations that we've had all these years. I mean, people would love to read this. It's an exceptional amount of wisdom.

When I go back and reread some of what he's typed, I'm astounded at the depth and the breadth of it, even to this day. I mean, it's moved my life in ways that it's kind of interesting to think that if Kalim ever had fallen in the pool, what would our life look like? You know, how we would not have access to all of this wisdom. Let's read a few more entries, and then we can bring him back in here to see if we talked about anything

that he wants to correct the record on. Yeah, right? Yes. I mean, is it okay if we share maybe a couple of excerpts about the paintings as he's typed about, these kind of short-form poems that he's done? Mom asks, what are you going to call it? And Kaelum responds behind the trees.

Mom asks, what do you want to say about it? Calam types, hidden amongst the wisps, I recall a depth of awareness. Only when the sound lessons is the glory of many reticulating colors apparent. A true wonder present always to be seen in sacred awareness. And tell me what the painting looks like. It looks like wisps. And so when you look at the painting and you go, oh, that's kind of interesting. but then when you read this and then look back at the painting,

you see exactly what he's describing here. Yeah. With that kind of... It's pretty remarkable too, because I think one thing about that painting, too, is that there's a point of focus where you can see is the center, really, but you can only see it from the orientation that Kalam wanted the painting put up, which is really interesting. Like, it looks really nondescript from other angles,

but when Kalim says, no, flip it that way, then it's like, well, there it is. It's right there. Yeah. There's another one of his paintings that is about dance, I think, or moving, dancing freely. And again, it doesn't look like anything. He told us to orient it a certain way, and it's a figure dancing in the center of this painting. Here, there's another. It was a painting for his, well, it's like his other brother.

Brian is his tutor and his support. He's part of our family. Yeah. And this was for his birthday, and Kalam wrote this. So, Kayle titled it glowing and said, rescinding but not swirling like a constant flow of purity, making a decided ascent, always reaching for the pinnacle, growing from within. Oh, this is back to his accident. Yeah, that is what prompted him to say this. So he typed, there seemed to be a knowing that I was given about all time.

the past, millennia of the past, the millennia of the future. The time of the present was woven into these formative spaces. Everything was acceptance. Unconditional love was surrounding me, and I became aware that I was that love. And I asked, how did you have individual communion with God when you were part of that oneness? And we put, Calam smiles big right here. Yeah, it's very exciting. Yeah.

And he typed, when I was watching the scene below, where I saw mom, me working on me and daddy praying in the corner of the yard there was a and then in parentheses this stops smiles and thanks there was an unbelievable love pulling me to it i was with god's energy immediately and felt suspended in peace that in a piece that i cannot describe there's no separation between me or god we were as the same energy formless shapeless all places in time and space of eternity one nests with all and that he yawns i love that you dictate in the writings where he yawns or smiles. It's so wonderful to understand like what he's experiencing. Yeah.

Question as you flip here. Is what he explained true to what was happening on the ground, were you working on him and your husband was praying over by a tree? That's exactly what was going on. Wow. Yeah. I have to preface this. So we had a program that we did or the program that we were doing out of Philadelphia there was a technique that we were using and required three people to to do with Kalam and so there was a former pastor of a very large Presbyterian church a friend of our family that he would come over to help Larry Bowles wonderful man and he it was about Halloween time and Kalam was five and you know I always told people if you're going to ask him a question I'm not censoring what he says so whatever he's

typing I'm just going to tell you what it is So Larry said, oh, hey, Kalim, you know, Halloween's coming up. And so Kalim went on this litany of how Halloween is disrespectful and he doesn't believe in it. And it's just so I just let it, Kalim rip it out to Larry. And so Larry just kind of said, okay, I understand. He said, but if you could be something for Halloween, what would it be? And Kalim said, I would be a master of heaven. And Larry said, okay, well, what's a master of heaven?

What do they do? And Kalam said they lead people to their next purpose. You know, and I'm just, no one's writing this down. I had to write it down afterwards because Larry and I were having to have a conversation. They lead people to their next purpose? Yes, that's what he said. And so Larry didn't know what to say to that. So he just said, well, what do they look like?

Yeah. And Kalam said, their indigo blue. And so we had a follow-up conversation. This is all these years later. So last year I just decided to bring it up. And so we had a little more conversation about that. So I said, can you describe the Masters of Heaven again like you told Larry all those years ago? And he said, there are indigo colors brightly surrounded by light.

Masters of Heaven guide people to their new purpose. And then he starts yawning. And I go, is there more than one? And Kalim said yes. And then I asked, when do you encounter them? And Kalam said, after you have fully integrated and are not to return to this earthly forum, you will be guided to a God Council. A God cancel is an opportunity to finish any tasks which were unfulfilled during this aspect of life. You come together in great collaboration with God and his sons and holy ones to begin navigating a new contract.

This is a description in earthly terms. It is not a contract in the way humans think of it. It is just a way to try and describe it to you. God is involved in all aspects of the choices. He yawns again, decisions and navigation of application in the newly vested agreement. After this, the Master of Heaven is responsible in guarding that soul to its new place, position, or task.

And then he yawned again. It is instant. There's no such thing as time or much of what we try to understand. understand this time. It is not possible to explain it. And then dad asked, is it the same for everyone, even for the evil? And Kalam said, no. And then he went on, everyone meets in a council. Those that have not abided are given opportunities to choose. Also, God does not punish. We create that. And dad said, are those given new contracts also? And Kalim said, no, they are bound to repeat their times to reconcile the evil they inflicted. And then Jacob asked, is there one that never

reconciled? And Kalam said, yes, Satan. And Dad said, what is Satan's ultimate goal? Calam said, he is mistaken in the power he thinks he wields to become over God. God has had to create opportunities for beings to access the opposite of divinity. This is in order for him to continue challenging his own creations. I mean, so wrap your head around, that's the thing I was explaining. You have to really, I mean, it just

comes out of him. His life's work is this. Yeah. Yeah. Any other final reading in there, too, that you're like, this is something he definitely want to share. This is a continuation of a conversation we had had. Like, on the

subject, the family being a teacher, lessons that we're supposed to learn or that are supposed to be imparted. So mom asked Kalam, tell us more about the lessons. And Kalim said, the primary lessons are hard to explain. However, we are tasked with remembering our true nature. This is, he yawns, achieved over many lessons we choose to learn while here. I asked him, how do we remember our true nature? Kalam typed, silence in the presence of God is one way our lives are more and more barraged with godless distractions. We have to help ourselves by becoming familiar with this silence again.

The word of the most high is within us. We are ego-centered for the most part. This is detached from our divine self. Mom asking, do you still hang out with Creator? And Canaan verbally says, yeah. I asked, how do you do that? He typed, I can easily align and connect with my higher self and the true divine nature. And then vigorous typing.

Mom asked, what else can we do? He yawns and Kalam types to serve the greater base that need help and guidance, to also begin and understand that I and others like me are mostly the same as far as being connected directly to our creator always. I asked him, does our not being unified affect what you do? He typed, it really doesn't, but it is my heart's desire that I would be the catalyst for consistent participation to solidify my position in delivering my word.

I asked, are all these things done to bring us, closer to God's source as well. And he verbally says yes. Wow. Beautiful. Yeah. So I asked him, when we talked about soul earlier, oh, was that when we saw the movie? Yes.

The soul movie. The soul movie. The Pixar one. I think that's what we were talking about. I said, when we talked about soul earlier, you said some elements were similar to your experience. What are they? Kaelim typed,

there is an ethereal aspect if you want me to say it in human. understanding. I said, speak freely. I'd love to hear. Canel typed, I have said many times that it is very difficult to describe my God visit. And Dad asked, but you had awareness? Canelam responded, no, not in the sense of your question, yawns. There is an aspect of our reality that does not exist in other space after physical exit from our material self. I asked what aspect. And Canel responded, we are all connected to the divine creator. There is yawning, no separation. However, the construct of reality in this plane teaches we are separate. This is against God's rules, yawning.

Once the human race can begin to align with greater purpose, kindness, and compassion, and realize we are all from him, then we can perhaps begin to expand beyond the confines of this repetitive reality and yawns again. Unbelievable. All right. Should we bring him in here? Would that be interesting to see what he has got to say about that? Okay.

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Hey, here he is. Here he is. We're almost done, Caleb. We just want to get some fact-checking from you. All right. Anything that came up in here just now when you're watching that you could clarify for us or that you could add more details or information about. Why?

Why? Well, I just want people to have as much information as they can. It seems like you know an awful lot about the things that scare people the most, which is where we're going, where we come from, and why we're here. And here's a chance to get answers from someone who has steep knowledge about that. So Caleb just spelled, there's nothing to be frightened about if we can stay centered and in communication with our perfect nature through God. But when you talk about contracts, I think that is something that can sound.

I know you were saying it in human terms, like you were trying to make it in our terms. But if you don't fulfill a contract, what happens? Like, how do you get another chance? And Caleb just spelled, as far as this, it's always a decision with God. This can equate to multiple recurrences in this reality. So someone could have multiple recurrences in this reality. Could you just have one if you get it right? Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, that sounds great. I would best imagine most people need a few times to get it right. Thank you for being here, Kaelum. Thank you for your writings. Thank you for your intelligence and wisdom. I am going to be rooting for you and your family as they do the work of putting out your book of all your writings. I know your mom is going to do it perfectly because she has you.

So does your brother. Yeah. And dad. And dad. Your whole family. I also want to just note that Anne Marie has started her own nonprofit called Project One. And it's for families who need a support after a non-fatal drowning, which often includes extreme brain injury or traumatic. brain injury. So check that out if you are a family who needs support or is living through

something similar. Thank you, Anne-Marie and Caleb for being here. It's been a remarkable journey hearing what you've gone through. That's it for this episode of the talk tracks. But new episodes will be released every Wednesday. So stay tuned as we work to unravel all the threads, even the veiled ones that knit together are reality. And please remember to stay kind, stay curious, and that being a true skeptic requires an open mind. To dive in deeper, subscribe to our back stage pass by visiting our website. With it, you'll unlock access to bonus content like telepathy tests, ask me anything interviews with myself and guests.

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producer, writer, and host. Hey, everyone is Kai. Mark your calendars for October 7th, because season three of the telepathy tapes, the reincarnation records is coming. If season one set out to explore whether or not consciousness extends beyond the brain, this season will explore whether or not consciousness survives death. I don't think a three-year-old is supposed to be having nightmares about how they died in a fiery plane crash. For millennia, young children have reported something extraordinary. They remember their names. They remember places. Oftentimes, the kids remember how they died and was something traumatic.

And in some cases, these memories can be verified. Allowing kids to talk about it is very important. Past life memories can heal. What if memory doesn't begin at birth? What if some part of us arrives already carrying a story? If reincarnation is real, I don't think we're supposed to remember. This season, we step into one of the most controversial and quietly persistent ideas in human history. Reincarnation We are taught from a very early age in the Judeo-Christian culture that reincarnation doesn't exist. It's not an escape from the demands of religion.

We'll meet people who speak with striking clarity about other lives and the researchers around the world who've spent decades studying these cases. Once you observe this in a child and the evidence is very compelling, you have to open up to another explanation for what is going on. Welcome to the Reincarnation Records. The Reincarnation Records will drop on October 7th on the telepathy tape's main feed. Expect your paradigm to be shattered once again.