The Tim Dillon Show - 145: 145 - King of the Restaurant (Guest: Ray Kump)

Episode Date: April 28, 2019

Strap in for a blast from the past! Tim is joined by past co-host Ray Kump (Kump, Our Love is Disgusting) for a classic Dillon & Kump discussion. They talk about the state of the nation, the current administration, the industry, and of course, the Kardashians. You asked for it, you got it! ONLY on this week's episode of Tim Dillon is Going to Hell! Please Support Our Sponsors:Go to http://www.timdillonisgoingtohell.com and follow the link at the bottom to get 10% OFF any Wix Premium Plans!Check Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

And now, Tim Dillon is going to hell! Hello everybody, welcome to Tim Dillon is Going to Hell. If you do not have tickets for the podcast in Austin, Texas with Ron Bennington, get them. The link is in my Instagram profile. If you have a festival badge, you can get in. If not, grab tickets, link is in the profile of my Instagram, I tweeted out a bunch. Right now we have a special guest, I don't know how we got this person, I'm very excited.

Returning from Coachella, let me make sure I pronounce his name right, Ray Cump. I'm back baby. There he is. Hello. Look at this, how did we manage it? How did we, we were trying for months for people. Look, I've been getting a lot of calls, I've been ignoring them, frankly, I feel like it's bad for my career.

Well you lost your phone. I lost my identity. What happened? I was in an Uber pool yesterday. Uber pool. With a lovely gentleman who I believe ended up taking my phone, I was busy playing a Cuphead on my Nintendo Switch. What is that?

It's a game where you play, you're a cup and that was, I was playing the, you shoot people. You're playing a game where you're a cup. And you're shooting people. You're shooting people? You're a cup. Yeah. Like a mug?

Well no, the mug is your brother in the game. And you're a what? A cup. Oh, okay. Like a coffee cup. And why are you shooting people? It's like an old school game, like an old school, like old timey cartoon, it's not the important detail.

Okay. The important detail is I was immersed, I didn't know where my phone was, so I got out of the car. But aren't you playing the game on your phone? No, I have a Switch. Oh, okay. I've upgraded myself. My apologies.

Things are going pretty well. Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, I basically got on the phone, tried, you try to log into Uber on the computer to say, hey, like, give me my phone back, driver. And they start going, oh, we'll text you a code to your phone. And it's like, I don't have my phone, it's a whole jerk around. They jerk them off my dick. And basically eventually the next day, the next morning, like, yeah, I haven't shipped

me a new phone. And this guy starts making fraudulent PayPal charges on my card, on my, basically, buying gift cards. He's buying gift cards from your PayPal. Now, I had gone to, because it's hard to log into your shit, everything you try to log into nowadays. It's very tough. They were going to text you a code, like, I don't have my phone.

Yeah. So, and like, I have an old iPhone, but I was waiting for it to charge, because literally, you fucking have an iPhone 5, you have to plug in for six hours before it charges up. You have an iPhone 5. Well, that's an old phone I have. You have, oh, that's not my standard for my phone as well. You just keep an iPhone 5 around. For situations like this?

It's a good, it's a good call. I'll just throw out, you know, garbage. No. I don't just throw out garbage. Yeah. A great rate comp quote. Well, you know, you might need it. I don't just throw out garbage.

You might need it one day. I like that. Yeah. So, that's a t-shirt. I went to the bank to, you know, close the account or close the debit card. And they got some fucking alert, like, hey, Samsung pays and activated on your phone. Like, oh, shit. He's like, he's using it to like, you know, I thought maybe just someone fucking,

because UberDriver didn't have it. I lost my phone before UberDriver brings it back. And they get you to- Yeah, they're good people. Yeah. But this guy, it got swiped. The guy was like, you know, some kind of drug, it was a white- He's in an Uber pool.

Yeah. He was like a white kid with like a box of sneaker box. Are you making them white for the show? No. He was like, when he's like, he's like, sneaker kids. Okay. Yeah, sneakers. One of the sneaker kids.

Yeah. Like a hype beast. Yeah. I guess. Yeah, that's what they call them. Where's a lot of Supreme? Yeah, I think it was one of those guys. In the sneakers.

They love the new sneaker. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hype beast. I'm not a fan of hype beast. You got your cell phone lifted by a hype beast in an Uber pool. Classic smashing grab. Classic smashing grab. So, yeah, so I went over to the bank, I closed the card.

And they were like, you know, I don't have to bother closing the checking account. And then I'm fucking go back, go back to work. And I'm fucking, you know, waiting for my phone so I can get like, you know, to charge up, so they're gonna put a new SIM card in it. And I get this other thing, PayPal's been reactivated. Like, what the fuck? So we're going there. And all these goddamn transactions about gift cards.

I can just imagine you sweating, angry, screaming, flailing your arm. What the fuck? I was fucking stress eating hot dogs. I did not order this gift card. I was so upset. I was like, I bought hot dogs on the street. I was just eating them, just fucking screaming into the computer. Yeah.

And like, and so I... I like that that's how you combat stress. Yeah. Is to eat hot dogs on the street. Well, look, what am I gonna do? Go have a souffle? No, it's a great point. Yeah, I'm gonna...

That's a great point. Just eat hot dogs on the street and scream. It's always worked for me before. I bet there was like a family visiting New York City, who just looked at you and started praying. They all just clasped their hands and just started praying. Well, this is what they want. See, like Bloomberg ruined tourism for the people.

Absolutely, I agree. They wanted to be safe, but they want a little taste. They want a little taste of it. They want to see somebody going off. I used to flip out all the time. Yeah. You were with me enough to know that. No, it was uncomfortable.

Yeah. And but that's what tourists want. And I've said this before, tourists want to see me or someone like me or you flip out and scream and yell and have a breakdown. We are in a weird way, kind of like going to a prostitute. But you want a little bit of danger. You want to see someone on the brink.

Yeah. If you come to New York, you want to see somebody on the brink. Right. A guy like you, a guy like me, a guy whose skin flashes red. Right. You don't see that on TV. You don't get it on TV. And nor do you get it in the Nordic countries, I believe.

No. Just deep red in the veins. Deep red, a larger man smoking or eating a street meat and losing his mind because his phone was stolen from him in an Uber pool by a hypebeast. Right. A hypebeast. And the worst thing is.

What's god damn hypebeast? Slow my phone. Jesus. The worst thing is I go on to PayPal and say, hey, because these are, look, they're gift cards. Sure. It's a trope at this point. Do you think he's buying them for people like he's doing?

Mother's name. Your mom. What if he started donating to Elizabeth Warren with your. We're going to get trope. Like you just start getting emails. Thank you for your donation to Beto. Like he's donating to all the Democrat candidates with your phone.

I mean, give me some points at least. But the thing is I go to dispute them. And they're obvious. Gift cards are an obvious trope or scammer. So I think it's no brainer. So I click like these three. It's like once for $4.75, once like $400. Like, you know, they're like 1,200 bucks altogether.

Yeah. And I click them. And then half hour later, I get a response. Yeah, we looked into it. They're not unauthorized charges. Like, fuck off. I'm like, what the fuck? How do you think they looked into it?

I don't. Maybe it's an algorithm or maybe they just, like maybe they activated like the webcam on my computer and like, look at this slob. And they fucking just said, fuck, let's burn them. They just said you were a legitimate mark. Like whoever took your phone was right to do it. Right.

These are not illegitimate charges. You're getting fucked, sir. Well, you were with me the other night. I almost had something weird. Oh, yeah. We were juniors in Brooklyn. Right. We had a hot dog.

They brought the hot dog over. It was the size of the table. Yeah, it was a massive fucking hot dog. The massive hot dog. I mean, this thing was coming out of the bun, out of the off the plate. It was double the size of the bun. Crazy.

Yeah. We go to juniors. I say to one of the bus boys, hey, can you charge my phone? Right. I give my phone to the guy. The guy takes it, disappears for about a half hour. Yeah. We go to leave.

We go, hey, can we get the phone back? Everybody in the place doesn't seem to know where the phone is nor who the guy is. Sure. They're all aloof. They're all like, yeah. Sorry, to be fair, let's just set the stage properly. When you're at a restaurant, I don't

like you'll shy away from this. You tend to act like you're the king of the restaurant. I am. And yeah. I, because I am. You've earned that role. I've earned the role to be the king of the restaurant. But you're grabbing people as they're walking by going,

sir, what is this gingerbread? What is this? And you're pointing at them. I wanted to know it was a house. We were seated next to a house made of cheesecake. Right. I wanted to know about it. You're grabbing other people's waitresses

and asking for mayonnaise. Yes. I get a condiment from everyone on the floor. Sure. I keep people going. Keep them up. Keep them going. Hey, you got gravy?

Wake up. Boom. The answer to confusion is my point. I do bring in a lot of chaos. Yeah. So, but yeah. In that chaos, we find our true meaning. Sure.

Yeah. You know, in Peterson, not me, folks. He's a good man. He's fine. No, he's a good man. Yeah. I don't think he's a bad dude. I don't think he's a bad dude at all.

A little trite sometimes. I just, I am, and I did this. We're not going to go into this because I did it on the other thing. I'm just, I am sick of people who need these people. No. We've talked about this. 100%.

These people that can't wipe their own ass without a book, without a chapter book. They're like, I had no idea I had to pick up the sock on my floor. Thank God that these guys are around to write books telling me to be a person. The weird thing is, and a lot of these people are from like kind of cushy, suburban, you know, existences where you're like.

The weird thing with this guy is he seems to be about hierarchies and people falling to the wayside because they couldn't cut it. Right. And like, you know, this little gentleman, like, all right. But then he's trying to like coddle these like children, these fucking 24-year-old men, until like, yeah, like brush your teeth and like, you know, I think it's what he's trying to do is laudable.

But the people I just get, I know that people need shit right every now and then to, you know, but to Gary V, the Peterson, the Van your Chuck, like all of that stuff to me is becomes like when you read it on the page, you go, a lot of this is nonsense. People used to be inspired. And look, you can say Lawrence or Arabia, you know, T.E. Lawrence was like, he raped the civilization,

whatever, maybe did, maybe did. We don't have time. He used to be inspired by people who took risks and went out there and like, right. Oh, this guy had a crazy life. I want to live like that. Yeah. And now it's like some guy who's telling you, you know,

maybe you should try eating some steak. And it's like, yeah. Well, the other thing is like, there's no honesty. The problem is the lack of honesty in society, right? Here's like people, people that take the route that I've taken, someone has to tell them early on, you're not going to have a good life. I mean, it's not.

It's not going to have like the chances that you were going to have a fulfilling, you're going to do the thing you want, which is great. But you're not going to have this Disney experience that you think you're going to have, or that you see other people having. And the weird thing is these people were happy at one point to be bent over in a coal mine.

Right. Like that was a good life to them. Yeah. Just dying of soot. Well, part of my problem with this new ethos of finding meaning, people don't need meaning. People need fucking things to do. Yeah.

I'm telling you right. And the idea that everybody's going to be a fully actualized human being is insane. They don't need meaning. In fact, most people, I think, are better off kind of staying at surface level, staying, I like, potato salad. I like pussy. I should work so that I could have a supply of those things.

You know? But we're in the restaurant. I'm being me. And you're not justifying and stealing my fuck. No, of course not. I'm just adding to the firing squad kind of element, where you don't know who's shot. But my point is, yes, but you give the guy the phone,

and he eagerly accepts it. This is something we do. We'll charge it. I'll get it done. And then we finish the meal. Yeah. And then we ask the security guy, who turns out he's the guy in the suit, like, where's the phone?

Where's the phone? And everyone gets dumb. Everybody gets dumb and starts walking around and looking at the floor. Yeah. They call over two managers. They don't know what's going on. I thought you were overreacting at first a little bit.

Yeah. But then as it went on, it went off like 20 minutes. I go zero to 60, and I told you. I guarantee, at the very least, this has happened before. Because the managers had those faces on like, fuck. I hope we don't have to go through this again. Is this another problem we're having? It's got to be, look, you're not getting people with 10 page

resumes to work as a guy cleaning plates off the fucking table. It's a noble job. But this is not like, so you can only filter so many people out. And you're taking the jacks so you can get a good hustle going. Right. You can get some European tourists, and they ain't going to push back.

Yeah. Listen, if you leave that place without your phone and you're visiting from Sweden, you're not going back. I got on the next day, and you're like, hey, so I gave some guy my phone and they're not going back. They just buy another fucking phone, and I bet it's not a bad side hustle. But as you said, you ain't doing that to the king

of the restaurant. I fucking walk in here. I order buffalo shrimp, regular shrimp for the fucking table. I'm sitting. I'm doing the right thing. We ordered three entrees. We ordered cheesecake. Like, we're doing the right thing.

We were legit. And yeah. No, I don't need to be stolen from in my own goddamn city. It's the level of the people. They weren't even looking at the eye. Yeah. Well, they know. They're walking in and out.

They're looking at their fucking shoes. I've been around enough scams to know when I'm going to be the victim of a scam. And I've gladly been the victim of this. I've scammed myself. Oh, sure. Enough to know when something's at the very fucking least weird.

And I'm like, there's a weird vibe here. There's a vibe like, oh fuck. What's going on? We have no phone. And then nobody knows who the dude is. That guy? Nobody knows who's the guy. Who was on the floor the whole night.

He was on the floor the whole night? Whole night. He was gone. I didn't see him anywhere. Gone. No one saw him anywhere. Right. 20 minutes and a half hour later, he finally

comes out of the kitchen. Yeah. I don't know what he's doing back there. And by the way, it seemed almost like happenstance. Right. And I'm like, hey, the phone? And he's like, oh. And he left.

And he gives you the phone. Yeah. Fucking left. And the phone, I think, was plugged in right next to the booth that we were sitting in. Oh. Oh, right across, yeah. Yeah, it was not far away.

Right. They were looking around the whole time. Yeah. The guy fucking brings the security guy comes over. Remember this? The security guy's accusing me of stealing a phone. What's your phone look like? You know, it's an iPhone.

Yeah, I'm like, what's the color? And he's got pictures looking at it. And he's testing you. Yeah. And you were like, you know, what's the color of it? You know, it's a black face. Yeah. Oh, it's not this phone.

And he turns around, and then it's a white iPhone. He's like, well, it's not this one. I'm like, are you now accusing me of stealing a phone? This is a great strategy. Yeah. He's basically coming over like, hey, are you trying to get the better of us? Are you trying to steal a phone?

This is what Acasio Cortez doesn't realize. Right. You know what I mean? People are going to. This is what she doesn't realize about human beings. At least American human beings. It happens across the racial spectrum, across the economic spectrum.

Right. We are a country of scammers. Slimeball thieves. Yeah. And no further you go up, the more scammers there are. And stop, you know, Ubers now in this fucking city are a trillion dollars. So expensive.

To get anywhere because there's a congestion tax. There's a carbon tax. So by doing all these things that are supposedly long-term good for the environment, you're impoverishing people in the short term. Right. You're fucking people that need to get places. We have a horrible fucking.

We have a horrible subway system. Yeah. So Uber pool. And they're raising the rates. And they're raising the thing. They're raising the fucking cost of this failing legacy subway system that's crippled every fucking day. Yeah.

And now you can't get in an Uber pool. Right. Because that's $28. Yeah. They don't understand. And look, the jobs, people have jobs, right? The unemployment is as low as it can be. But everyone's working these fucking service jobs.

Yeah. No one's making GM money anymore. So what is the fucking point? We're going to save the environment by impoverishing everybody? Is that what we're trying to do? They really think they can start the goal. They can tax their way into the state.

And there's not enough people to tax their way. And it's amazing. I work in a place that's pretty liberal. And the people talking, talk about billionaires. And then talking about how they need to be taxed and be taxed. And regardless of how they understand it and all the machinations of it, but just the ethics of it, when it comes up for their taxes,

they're gloating about how the expenses they take and they got my LLC and this and that. And you say, oh my god, it's kind of the same deal. No, but I need it more. Yeah. That's all it is. I need it more. Yeah.

And you go, there's got to be a limit where you don't need it anymore. The problem is, and Bill Burr talked about this, fucking individuals at 70% who've made $10 million is crazy when you have corporations that pay no taxes. Yeah. And they are offshore. And they route all their profits offshore. And there's this whole system of structured finance,

which allowed the New York Times to their credit, did a great piece about it, how you have this entire system that has been erected to route profits off through these offshore companies. Yeah, these fucking shell companies. Shell corps and these people that pay no taxes, or they go to cities like New York and London and buy up real estate with these shell companies

to shield their tax burden and their ownership interest and all that stuff. And listen, man, I get it. I get the whole soak to rich concept. I'm not against it. I understand that rich people have gotten away with, especially the ones that are savvy, have gotten away with a lot, OK?

But a lot of that tax money goes to a defense department that plunders resources from around the world and pillages. It does not go to the people that it should go to. That is a fact. It's a remarkable thing. They're not going to redistribute wealth. They're going to shoot more 60-year-old Yemeni girls in the head.

Yeah, it doesn't seem to be effective. And I'm not saying you shouldn't tax people, but it's like we seem to forget that this is an economy entirely based on war for the most part. No, for a long time it's been there. For a long time. And this is when you get into the, well, you're being cynical and you're being this, you're being that.

No, I'm stating a fact. I'm not putting any emotion behind it. It's a fact. We're a war economy. Oh, no, there is no, if you break down what makes America this exceptional country at this stage. For a while we had resources. We had an industry.

We were growing and all this shit. And in circumstances of history and economic history. But at this point, all we're doing, there is no, even a financial industry is not the, it's the biggest capital market, but that's shifting over time. It's just the fact that we have, by far, even accounting for history and proportionally, the most insanely huge military that the world's ever seen and we're still growing it.

Right. And it's just like, and we don't, and like, it's like, it dwarfs, the number two is China, I guess, but they're like, you know, a fraction of it. Yeah, I mean, we make nothing here. Yeah. Except. Missiles.

Drones and drones that blow up Pakistani weddings. You know, the machinery of death. Right. And so that's my thing. When I talk to people, I'm like, I have no problem with rich people paying more taxes. I have no problem with corporations paying their fair share, but I am realistic enough to know that a lot of that money

is going to go into the coffers of defense industry people that are constantly creating the new threats of tomorrow. They are creating the new threats. Well, the other problem with AOC, it's like, you know, she cut, when I first saw her, people just stood on me because I was like, I would be supporting her, but like, they would knee-jigger about her. And maybe they were right because when I saw her,

she was kind of coming on, like it was interviews with the guy I didn't see in the, whatever his name is. Jake Tapper. Yeah. And it's just like, she's coming off like, yeah, I'm just, we're just trying to make it more reasonable for people, why people should have health care. Everyone else has health care, why don't we?

And it was just like this very neutral, like. Right. And she's young, she's attractive and like, yeah, we're not crazy socialists. This is normal. You're crazy for attacking it. Yeah. This might work.

This might sell. And immediately, like I'm not even over time, immediately, once she gets in there, this green new deal, it's just like, it's a quasi, it's Marxist quasi. People talk, like the whole thing with the, what was it, the people who shouldn't want to, they don't have to work, or don't want to work, shouldn't have to kind of thing. Yeah, the people that choose not to work.

And I get that with early draft or whatever, but like, why are there people in your office even like, they're sketching this out? Like, why is that? Well, she is surrounded by hardcore Marxists. Right, exactly. 100%. Hardcore people that think the profit motive is completely

evil, that markets have no place in the world, that it's never worked. These are people who, I guess, would rather live in the Soviet Union than America. Well, they keep, I mean, let's be honest, would you rather, I mean, it seems insane. And then they keep bringing up these Nordic countries that are not Marxist, that are at all a mix of.

If you look at the metrics of, there's organizations that study the metrics of economic freedom and different factors. And those kind of like Sweden is basically a free market country that has a social safety net. Right. Like, they take the priority to go, hey, we're going to take care of people.

But the economy is fucking a free market economy, basically. Yeah. I think part of this is a response to a right wing that really is a pro oligarch plutocracy. Sure. Like a right wing that doesn't give a flying fuck, that really has become kind of this Koch brothers radical libertarian, you know, let's just

have private fire departments and private enclaves. And when you go to LA, you see it, man. Everybody's behind fucking gates with security guards. And then you drive five minutes away. And there's tents. Look, if your wife and kids get stabbed, we're going to have a company that deals with that. Right.

You give them some, you give them, you give them. We just texted you a code. Did your wife get stabbed in the throat? We texted you a code. Insert the code. And you will get the email to sign you up for our services. Send us a picture of your dead wife. Yeah, I was like, we're not going to cover this.

This is bullshit. So that's where we are. We're at this fucking place where you have somebody that's like, how about we all take $80 rubors until we have no money? Or we just, you know, and people are like, oh, public transit is really bad. I'm like, you know how bad it's going

to be if you completely eliminate the ride share option? Sure. And just people are just now packed into this fucking thing? Well, it's terrible with the L, this whole house of cars with the L train. Yeah. They come in the last minute, and we actually found a way that Europe does that we're going to throw it

down. And people coming out like two days later going like, no, no, we always had this option. It's not going to work. And maybe we'll maybe it won't. But the point is, the closures are going to have on the L. It's still like all weekend and nights and shit. And it's like, and yeah, you're also

going to cripple the thing that could offset that a little bit. You know, the fucking ride. Well, they don't care. But they really, in this city specifically, hate the poor. They want them to leave. They don't want them here. Well, yeah. Like, I don't mean to be poor.

I mean, like the working lower class. No, because, and this is the problem when you have this hyper capitalist attitude, where it's literally just about money. Right. The money does not have to come from people here that work here anymore. Yeah.

And that's what people have kind of realized. If you just have this be a vertical money laundering scheme, and capital pours in from all over the world, from Kazakhstan, from some guy that poisoned a river in Zambia, a mining magnet in India, you really don't need. You need worker bees. You need drones. You need people to keep doing that.

But you don't really need to support a quality of life for human beings that aren't what you consider a net plus. And for a while, you needed people to work at a diner, and the Starbucks. That's all over. Yeah, because now it's like, these people are so rich, they're just getting private chefs. And the reality is, how many of those places in five years

are going to be fully automated? Yeah. Fully fucking automated. And that's what's terrifying. Sex robots. That's why it was sex robots. You go to a diner, you get your dick sucked while you wait for mozzarella sticks.

It's shitty mozzarella sticks. You know? They still suck. They're still terrible. They're still horrible. They're still burned. The clothes are not bad. That's why you have Andrew Yang out there talking

about the guaranteed income, the $1,000 a month. Yang gang. Hey, can you please, can we just give these med head truckers like $1,000 please? Give him a grand, a chi a month. I mean, listen, Yang is a dude. You know, it's so funny. It's like, you look at all the issues we talk about campaigns.

No one really talks about automation. Right. Nobody talks about AI. Nobody really talks about militarism in an intelligent way. They all ignore all of that. Right. And climate change is kind of ignored, too. Yeah.

All of these things are ignored. And instead, what did we even talk about the last let? Like, I'm trying to remember. Like, what was the hot button issues? Well, to be fair, I mean, look, it was pretty garish. We're talking about pussy grabbing. Right. And like, I mean, Trump was sort of.

Yeah. There was no thought to anything that's going to completely. Right. The fact that, like, Hillary Clinton had to defend herself, that, like, I mean, look, am I saying she wasn't shady, but it's just like, yeah, it's almost like you do some dirt so you don't have to talk about the real shit. I'd love to be a fly on the wall at that dinner up in Chapaquan,

New York. Like, what now? What do you put yourself? Because, you know, we hosted the show for a long time. We read a lot and interviewed a lot of people about these powerful, dynastic, or people with at least the aspirations to be dynastic, you know. Upstarts.

Right. And what do you think is going through that? Do you think that she has, has, has fucking fully admitted it's over now? Because I would love, and I've said this, I would love all these Democratic candidates to destroy each other in the primaries. I'd like to see her get back in and win only because I

watch this like House of Cards. Yeah. And I think it's a great storyline to watch for her to get back in and win. Because the rest of them are all kind of punks. They're all punks. She's a gangster. She's a gangster.

And there is, Trump is not, there is no wall. It's not raining Wall Street in. There is no populist revolution. Yeah. All of it, all of it has been primarily bluster. I mean, look, he's, he's, he's really enforced immigration. On that aspect, yeah. It depends on how dark the hearts of these people

are at this point. Because it might appeal to them that he put those kids in cages. That might be a book. Sure. They might love that. Right. But other than that, that's, that's really. You said it's all talk, but there's a kid in a cage right there.

He's showing unknowable. Look at that kid in that cage. Imagine if they start having rallies exalting him for putting them in a cage. Like fake kids and like. Yeah. They have like ages and effigy. They have like kids in the cages, like going like,

I deserve to be in this. Parents are putting their kids in cages. Yeah. Yeah. The kids are like, the kids like there's just a little kid in a cage and it's not a protest. It's a celebration. Oh, you were saying it's a celebration of law and order.

Look at my baby in that cage. He knows he belongs there. Happy, happy as shit. That's my goddamn later. So yeah, there is a lot to hit him with. And yeah, I mean, there is no better candidate than Hillary. Let's get real. I mean, Biden, I don't know.

Biden seems to compromise. What was he doing with hugging people or whatever? I don't know. Maybe more. Bernie is the only person that other than Hillary, I think, has a shot. Well, here's the big question. Kamala's a fed.

Boudegag, the gay mayor, a sweet guy, but this is not going to work. Andrew Gang's is not. I mean, I like him, but he's not in the box office. No. Who else we got in there? Warren is a clown. Well, she's going straight for impeachment now.

So maybe that's a. I mean, let them do whatever they want. He's not getting removed. They're going to impeach him. They have one guy who I'll bring up in a second. But here's the thing. The situation is that who is going to come to Hillary and say, hey, it's over, lady.

There's no one there. Who? Terry McAuliffe? Who? John Podesta. Yeah, like, who has the clout? There is no one really guiding the Democratic Party. No.

The way you have like Obama would maybe be somebody. If he got involved, if they got him and said, hey, bitch, it's over, don't he run as her VP? I guess. I don't know. Because you might be able to run and then just it skips you into succession or you wouldn't be able to take. I'm trying to think if he could run as a VP.

I wonder if they would keep you from because they've had foreign VPs before? I don't know. It's possible. Because no, here's why. Because if the president dies, then you become the president. Here's the thing. And then you'd be serving a.

If Trump has shown us anything, it's like the law don't matter. Who gives a shit? Is Hillary in there? And she dies? Biden's getting in, but no one's going to vote for him because he's a little bit of a creep. He's a little bit of a creep. I mean, he's hugging.

He's touching. Yeah, he's touching a bit. But it does seem warm. He seems like that kind of guy who it was never me. I could ever pull that off. Yeah. But like, you see him doing it. Why can't I do that?

Why can't I hug people? I'll tell you right now, I've watched some of it. I don't love it. Right. I see it as a, like I say to myself, I'm not. I don't think he's a pedophile. I don't think he's any of that. Because no, he touches girls and children.

I mean, you see him touching. I did touch that, OK. People, kids get very uncomfortable around him. I just think that it's enough of an issue. Yeah. To probably knock him off. Well, I think we've entered an age, besides the me too, even though it kind of seems to be over, unfortunately,

and women, whatever, it's, but I think we have gotten away from touching, to a larger extent. We're over touching. Yeah, we're, yeah. I mean, listen, I just, because again, looking at this from straight storyline, and by the way, if I had faith that anyone who was going to be elected was going to do anything good, I would support that.

But Sanders is a guy that I could probably support because I think that he's enough of a shock to the system. But do I know in my black heart of hearts that four years to him, what's he going to get? He'll get like free community college. I know what these people are up against when it comes to changing the system.

They need to look a few cycles back. And maybe take another look at the crazy Howard Dean. Interesting. Yeah, because that's a guy who might be able to harness not the actual- Howard Dean. Remember Howard Dean? Yeah.

He did the scream. We're going to go higher. We're going to go a sense nanny. We're going to go another way. And that one scream ended his career. Well, it was the nail in the coffin. People always forget, though, that speech was happening because he just had a huge upset loss in the fucking primary.

So he was already calm. He was like, this guy has a little nuts. But I will say that when anything's short, and I'm not endorsing this, but it does seem like anything short of a violent thing, doesn't really change this, doesn't change, the system is so big, it'll either collapse under its own weight or it'll be, I mean, listen, I'm all for getting a socialized medicine.

I'm all for these things. But let's be completely honest about what is going on. Well, people say, well, we've got to get money out of politics. And if that's like the, oh, we just got to figure that out, that's the whole thing against money out of politics. Not only is that the whole thing, in the UK, they do not have the money in politics like we do. They have a lot of the same problems.

They're doing a lot of the same things wrong. They're all over the world. They're fucking, they're not, there's a lot of the same critiques of their society and their foreign policy as you, you know. And back to Sweden, I mean, first of all, they admit, like you talk to these guys who like, you know, economists who are in Sweden, like, well, we,

yeah, we taxed the rich, but we also like heavily taxed the poor in the middle class. Everybody's taxed. Yeah, a lot, which is fine. I mean, they're getting a lot for their money. So it's fine. But also like, I mean, at first it didn't work out that well, but they kind of learned from their mistakes.

They exploited, they invested their pension funds really well. And they basically exploited Western capital markets. And like, you know, we got a lot of Yahoo's here trying to make a billion bucks. Sure. And they just smartly kind of exploiting that. And even if we did the right thing, who is big enough of an economy

that we could rather than their back? That's the problem. How do we, who, where's our pension fund going? Well, when I talk to people that are really hardcore leftists, or not even leftists, but hardcore, like I would say, Marxists, a lot of them fall into two groups. One, they're wealthy and somewhat guilty, okay? Number two, there's some tragedy

that they have either experienced or been a party to, and they've seen like, because there's a lot of, there's a lot of problems out there. And capitalism, especially the strain of it that we have, which you've always talked about, it's not purely Adam Smith, but capitalism. It is a hybrid of the public and private sector in the worst possible way,

add in a Congress and Senate who are being blackmailed by intelligence agencies that are running around, assassinating people and fixing a leg. So what the criminality that we've got going on, there are people that have kind of lost their belief in the system and wanna burn the whole thing down. And that's on the right, they are also the same people, the people that are in the fault right

are no fans of this free market system. Well, look, if you look at Nazism, and like, you know, was it a guy like- And let's! But a guy like Friedrich Hayek, who some of you might be familiar with, one of his big things was drawing the parallel, like, look, the far right Nazis

and the far left Marxists, or a lot close, they both hate Western liberalism, which is what was called back then, like just capitalism and just free markets, and people having freedom, basically. They would actually switch sides, he'd observe. These students would go back and forth. Oh, sure.

Free Marxism and fascism. Bernie, bro, Trump, yeah. But they would never go to free market shit. Well, it does seem like, I think, a lot of the issues with neoliberalism is that, in this, it is so easily gamed. And that, you know, there's a certain type of person that thrives in that system,

and that system is, you know, easy to exploit. And you look at authoritarian systems, and you go, well, if we could clamp down, then, but then that brings up another whole host of problems. Sure, and what's interesting is re-reading of Roe de Serfdom, which is a bookie Roe,

basically, about how any, like, the premise is that, basically, even a well-meaning socialist system will eventually fall into fascism. Right. And you can dispute if you want, but what's interesting when you're re-reading it, and this is the guy who, like,

free market people hold up as they're in like, and the opposite goes, look at these, you know, these, basically, crony and narco-capitalist, and in the first introduction, he's going, like, look, it's not only permissible in the capitalist state to have, like, regulation that increases competition. It's, we want that, that's better, it's optimal. Yeah.

As long as you don't fuck with the price mechanism, but, like, you know, but, like, yeah, regulate this shit. Like, this idea that, like, capitalism is tied to no regulation. It's crazy. It's insane. It's insane, yeah. And that's the problem we have now,

is your new podcast with your girlfriend, Lucy Steiner, Our Love is Disgusting, about anarcho-capitalism first. It's basically about anarcho-capitalism, but filtered through me trying to get pegged. A lot of the pictures you're posting are graphic. Well, they're graphic or they're just disgusting. I mean, they're both. Our tongues are touching, or we're slobbering on each other.

It's a PDA, it's public display of affection on Instagram. Right. What is, It's Our Love is Disgusting. What is this about? Well, we're both sexual beings, and we both have a weird sexual pic of dillos. Look, there's a lot. I think it's true most.

And she's very open about all her issues. Oh, sure. Yeah. I mean, in the first episode, we're talking about one of her basically extended rape fantasies. She had about a guy in the woods. Right.

You know, a lumberjack. But she said something at dinner the other night that she talks about on stage. Is that true? Yeah. Is it, that's true. Yeah, she wrote up on a different podcast. And it's that she had sex with her father.

Well, it was raped, I guess. Well, her father raped her. I mean, we don't really talk about it this, yeah, I mean, I don't know, I should be talking about this openly, but yeah, but that's something that happened. Jeez. It's an unfortunate thing.

How old? Young. Young. Not good. Not good. Not great. We don't really talk about it in our podcast too much. Right.

But no, that's something. But she's very, you know, she may have jokes on stage about it, and she's, and it's, I've never met anyone who is that willing to make light of the darkness the way I would, the way you would. Well, I would be, but my parents didn't rape me.

Right. But I would be. No, but uh. They'd be great jokes too. But it's also more light than that, it's not, you know. No, it is fun. It's, hey, it's a hoot. The show is not so much about, you know,

trauma as a, you know, me discussing how she could peg me, or we were, one night we had a show where we were talking about, you know, why won't she piss on me? And she didn't, I wasn't trying to convince her, like, oh, you have to piss on me, but she wanted to make a schedule out of it. And I'm like, no, why?

How soon do you think you're de-platformed that Alex Jones has put back on? I mean, that's the goal. You think Alex Jones can get put back on Twitter and you'll be taken off Twitter? We're agent provocateurs. Yeah. But uh.

It is, it is an interesting idea. You guys are both very open. And if you're into sexual fetishes or fantasies or just being open. And look, the reality is, it's comedy first. Yeah. It's comedy first. Which, you know, it's just, it's a subject.

It's child rape and piss fetishes later. Yeah. But it's first. No, it's, it's the primary thing that's being fun. It's comedy. It's honestly, I can also have my podcast, Kump. That's still going on. Sure.

But I feel like, and look, if you like what Love is Disgusting, check out Kump. Sure. But I mean, but everyone, I think, I'm really proud of this. I was watching a Tonight Show set the other day and I, today in my Uber and I was going, what is comedy now?

Like, what is, like, you've always had a great outlook on this. Like, literally, what is this? Like, I was watching it and I was saying to myself, I can no longer differentiate what is done at an open mic from what is done on the Tonight Show, from what is done on, like, a special on HBO. Like, you're showing lost.

Well, look, half these people are going back to the open mic right after. Right. I was like, kid, I was like, right. But, yeah, like, you remember you showed me a couple of years back when you showed me some clip and you go, do you like this? I mean, I don't know what, it was so funny.

I said, is it good? And you go, I don't even know. You're like, I don't even know anymore. Yeah. What is good? It's, here's a problem. Yeah. I don't think that this, the idea that this city's

any more full of amazing comedy. That's ripe to be, and that people just being overlooked. I don't know if that's true. Right. I think, you know, I do think a lot of this stuff is more like, people are just safer. People are, I think it's trickled down over the years. Not that you want edgelord comedy,

but you want people to be taking risks on stage. You want things to be a little uncomfortable, and you want to see someone, like, you know, sit in a comfortable premise, and then work back, and like, and get your back on board. That's the whole reason for this thing, right? I mean, isn't that, what's it trying? But what I, what I, what I see now,

is I see people that are doing a mad lips. Yeah. Or they're essentially like, these little, building these little castles of words, and puzzles, and some of them are better at it than others. Some of them are more entertaining than others. But it's kind of getting, it feels corny. Yeah.

It feels corny, and it feels like, it's like. People I talk to, younger people, like, and at this point, you know, the people who were 10 years younger than me are 22. You know, I'm getting, so you're seeing this next generation kind of, you know, come of age, and they're like, they're standing on a comedy, like, oh, I like her.

She's chill. What? Like, how is that? What? Yeah. I don't want to, like, end like that. She's chill. They really, this younger generation

doesn't like conflict, in general. They don't like conflict. I mean, I'm sure there's, you know, people stabbing each other too. You're out there. But in general, they like people who don't like, because I think the idea of chill is just like, you're not, like, you kind of just don't care,

and you're kind of detached, and you kind of, hey. Yeah, I also think, like, nobody wants to be in awe of people anymore. Like, I talked about that the other day where I said, you used to have acts that you'd be in awe of. You watch Carlin, and you're in awe. Even go back to Rolling Stones, Tina Turner, anybody. And now a lot of the things that, you know,

are attractive to people are really things where people are like, I can do that, and they're right. Yeah. They're correct. Well, even the stuff that's good, like, for 10, 15 years now at least, there hasn't been like, consensus popular rock music. Right.

It's just gone. Like, white guys are probably the last thing, or black keys. Yeah. But like, and, but there's tons of like, you hear good babies. Can we get Bad Baby in here? Let's get Bad Baby, because there is some good shit.

Still happening. What's my point? Let's get Bad Baby, that song where she goes, white Porsche, white whore, find that, keep going. No, but the point is there is good stuff out there, but like, everyone wants it to be a band they can see in a bar. Right.

I saw them when they were new. And it's always been there, but that's become the whole, like every band's gonna have 3,000 people on Patreon that keep them going, but no one wants a huge act. No one wants to like, arena act. And look, sometimes when it was like, you know, the Foo Fighters, all right, I can see how it's a little,

I mean, they were fine, but like, but you know, when you had guys like Bruce, and you had guys like, you know, even like Nirvana, and like, you know, we're legitimately great, but I usually just mention Pumpkins a lot a few times. Let's listen to Bad Baby, please. White horse.

Pump it up, pump it up. Hi bitch. This is great. I like this. This is great. Please stop, please stop, please stop, please stop. This is phenomenal. Provocative.

It didn't look like you bought it at the Kia. Now, this woman was on film, as she told her mother. Yeah. Oh, that's fine. She's great. So what we need to do is go to like these fucking, these homes for like, you know,

wayward children and get them. Well, that's always been great arts bins. Yes. I mean, really it's been cute. I don't want somebody in Juilliard. I want this dirty whore. I mean, if we ignore all the fucking classic rock bands that, you know, whose dads were CIA agents.

Sure. Otherwise, there's always poor people. Shout out to Dave McGowan on the other side. But this is like, this is where it's at now. You need. And people are surprised. Like, why is she good? It's like, she's good cause she's an animal.

Yeah. But that's what we want. Turn it up again, Harrington, please. White horse. Listen. Hi bitch. Hi bitch. Hi bitch.

This is great. Crow is hailing you, stay hanging. All right. Thank you. This is the type of girl that you don't want your son to marry. Well, maybe now you do. But like, what's good about her is that she's, this is literally somebody who is a garbage person, you know?

Yeah. But that's what I want. Right. I want somebody who is authentically a hefty bag. What's interesting is you had gangster rap, right? You had guys like Biggie and Tupac, who maybe Biggie more than Tupac is a legitimate guy from the street.

Tupac, I think his parents might be like, who knows? Yeah. By point is, but they were doing the real shit that was like, they were reflecting the lower class of the time and people who were in bad situations. And society said, not good enough. Right. We want trash here.

We want the real animals. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The maniacs. And really, I mean, you need to go with crazy white people, I think, you know, to get the real like, oh, you had the opportunity. You just, you spoiled it. You just took all your privilege and you threw it in the garbage.

Well, there's something about, there's something about, you know, like there's something that's funny about, like, you know, the system for introducing new talent for a while was like fucking game shows. It's like American Idol, The Voice, you know? And so here's a girl that went on Dr. Phil and goes, catch me outside. How about that?

Yeah, I'll beat my mother's ass. Yeah. And it's like, OK, but then you listen to music and you're like, oh, that's exactly what she should be doing and saying. Right. I mean, yeah. I'm not saying she's fucking the who. I'm saying for the genre of music she's doing, why the fuck not?

I don't like it when people take the cheap shot and go, look, the president is doing this shit. You know, young people are looking up to it. But that means that if the president is doing that, how trashy is she anymore? This country is fucked. Well, my whole point was that a game show host is a president. Bad baby.

The girl on Dr. Phil is one of our top rising recording artists. The worst thing in the world would be for this civilization to survive. That would be horrible. The worst thing that could ever happen would be for us to reverse the correcting effects of global warming. What does this look like in 50 years?

Here's the thing. We still, it's still going to be documented. It's not like the Roman Empire where we don't, maybe it was a lead poisoning, why are you going to go crazy? And like, you know, the Huns, this and that, they're going to know. So 1,000 years from now, they're going to look back in America and see it collapsed like this. I was watching the Kardashians the other day.

I think they're great. I like them. I can't hate them because they've played a game so well. Yeah. But I mean, that's part of the problem with these chill kids. They also respect the hustle too much. Well, but here's, allow me to make a point about the Kardashians because I think this gets lost on people.

They have a family of people there who have completely created an entire infrastructure to exist in, to thrive in. I mean, I don't think there's ever been, other than the Bushes, I'm not even kidding, a family that's maybe more successful at managing their public image and the media and like, you know, working with fucking, I mean, the young girl Kylie's a billionaire. Right.

And it's probably like saying, hey, I used this cologne. And like, yeah. But I mean, what's remarkable, there's something fascinating about it. If you don't watch it as like, I don't watch that show a lot. But every now and then I'll put it on. I don't watch it for like, ooh, is there drama? I watch it.

And I'm like, what is going on here that makes this? Because I'll even watch it and I'll go, I find myself, I'm relatively intelligent. I find myself going, this is kind of interesting. Why? Why is it interesting? And what's remarkable is, I'm not saying this is all done cynically, but it's remarkable how it worked out that like you

have, is to think about rich, beautiful women, you know, with getting ass implants and doing porn videos to get famous. Yes. And talking shit. And that family is also on the spearhead of some most progressive, you know, with Caitlyn Jenner, I'm saying. Interesting. That that overlaps with like.

It's amazing. It's amazing. And people don't give it the credit. And they come from the best part of my childhood, the OJ Simpson trial. Right. The OJ Simpson trial was the best part of my childhood because every day there was something new and fun on television.

And they come from that like, dude, these far, I am not kidding. I sometimes think they are kind of quasi-religious figures. If it wasn't for the one-two punch, they were a few years apart of the Iraq, first Iraq war. And then. Go to YouTube and get up. Just say no, J, Comedy Central.

Don't play it yet. I'll tell you when to play. This was my first time on Comedy Central in 1995. Oh, nice. OK. But between the first Gulf War and OJ, would you even be like 24-hour cable news at all? I think that's why they created this whole thing.

It created. It spawned this family. And then they. And what I love is I love that I hate the Hilton's. I've always hated the Hilton's. And the Hilton's, they totally displaced the Hilton's. Right. Like the Kardashians came in and fucking.

She used to be Paris Hilton's assistant and stylist. And they came in and totally just fucking displaced. What's the weird thing is at this point, are they rich? I don't know. Maybe not. Are they richer than the actual Hilton family? I don't know. But I would say that if you took all of their wealth together,

probably. Wow. I mean. Because for a while, I was like, oh, well, you know. And also, me maybe not. I mean, we'll do that. Let's take a look at this, by the way. Let's take a look at just say no, J. My first time

on Comedy Central. Here we go. Let's make sure the volume's up and we can enjoy this. This is a sketch about the O.J. Simpson Trial that they were playing. Not now, Trevor, down. Hey, that's my bone. Careful, Trevor.

Was it after that point that he told you he'd take the next flight? Yes. Just say no, J. From Comedy Central. And that was my. That was great. You were great. I did well.

I don't know what that means. Well, they were playing it as a commercial, as a promo. Like just say no, J. Watch Comedy Central. Oh, OK. Because everybody, you've got to remember, everybody was watching the O.J. Simpson Trial all the time. So there was there's a few different cable networks that were like, hey, can you fucking?

We're here. Hey, you think for a comedy network, maybe make a funny promo, but whatever. Come on. You know, you know, you know what it is. What do you know? The trial is funny in that shit. They tried.

Listen, I will say this about Comedy Central. They've made some of the funniest shit out there. Yeah. Think about it. Honestly, some of the best stuff. South Park. Nathan for you. Reno 911.

I mean, Strangers of Candy. They're literally. No, they remarkable work over the years. The problem is at that time, they were doing great stuff. They were doing great work. Now, if you're if you're if you're listening out there and I know some of you are, don't ruin it. Don't ruin it.

Sometimes you just walk away from the table when you had a good meal. You don't order the dessert, which everybody goes is telling you so, but they've done a lot. They've done a lot of cool shit. But the there's something fascinating. Man, when I look at that Kardashian family, I'm like this mom, this mother, Kris Jenner,

and the way that she's been able because you got to think about it. The kids are now Rob is the only one that doesn't fit in with the program. So he's out. He's he's done. He got fat, you sell socks, whatever. Yeah.

But she's been able to kind of corral the rest of them and somehow overlap with the NBA remarkably. I mean, and then Kanye, Kim is now married to Kanye. I forgot about that. So it's a while. Did it ruin him or is he already kind of on the way? I think he has issues, but I don't think they helped. I think and now Ryan Seacrest helped create that show.

Really? Yeah. That's why he's, you know, that's why he was like, I couldn't meet to him. It can't meet to him. Standing on the thing is like, bitch, meet to me. So it is weird, man. I watch that show and I'm like, this family,

it's an interesting thing. I mean, they still have all the shows. Like it's not winding down. Well, they have them one main show. I don't know how many other shows they have. I think they just returned to the main show because now they have so many other business. Like the kid has a fashion line.

She's a billionaire. It's a makeup line. She's a billionaire. All the respect for them. Yeah. Great hustle. Great hustle. But these kids who like somehow it's like they,

it's cool to sell to me. Like I used to, I mean, I was never, I was never the test balloon. I was never the guy that the advertisers were worried about. Right. But that being said, I used to skull advertisers were. They would try to get to me. They'd shove more in his lip.

They would try to get to you. But yeah, but the idea, I always found it like kind of gross when like the ad was too, because it used to be like, you know, a funny ad was fine. I'm not saying that I don't, when I talk about them or bad baby, I'm not saying this is a hooray for society. I've been pretty clear about my feelings about society and its direction.

I don't think there's any confusion here. What I'm saying is when you look at this shed and you look at what has happened and you look at them as a family, you go, you go, what an interesting family to represent essentially America. I mean, they represent America more than anyone we've ever elected.

I'm barely even asking this, but yeah. Kim could win the presidency, right? I think probably. Yeah, I mean, who was going to be? I got to be honest with you, I would vote for her. I, I'm telling you right now, I would vote for her. I think she's smarter than a lot of people. I'm not kidding.

I know that a lot of people now are going to be angry with me or be upset and get all these messages, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I don't think she's like adult. I never have thought that. Well, look, she's a hard worker too. I know people that know her. She works her ass off.

There's the thing, like you don't have to. How great is this? Nobody would have predicted that the way the show is gone, the last 10 minutes of it would just be a hardcore defense of the Kardashians. Like nobody could have predicted where this would go. We'd be sick and sick. But, but no, but the idea is like people really,

who just accomplished very little in their lives. Yes. They love to talk about how smart someone, how she doesn't work that hard. I mean, just getting up every day and doing these photo shoots is more than most of these people are doing. There's a lot of people in the world.

And I've noticed this as I've kind of, you know, done more and more stuff that are not interested in doing. Right. They're not. They're interested in sitting, critiquing. They've gotten very comfortable on the sidelines. That's where they want to stay.

Even in comedy, you'll see people that tweet all day criticizing other comics. Those people, and I've said shit about the late night shows, I think sock and whatever, but like you see people that criticize comics all day and you realize, oh, you guys are not interested in doing anything yourselves. Right.

You don't have it to do it because you're probably terrified of failing. You're terrified of people like, oh, they're scared of rejection. They're not scared of rejection. They're scared of getting the opportunity and failing. They also do these YouTube comics to make these videos.

Who are better and funnier than 90% of what's out there. I mean, you're making these great videos. I started making videos recently. And look, I don't think they're the most amazing thing, but it's just, yeah, just go out there and do something. Just do it. Yeah, do it. And when I watch Stand Up Now,

and I don't know what happened, but over the last six months, a lot of Stand Up has started to blend together to me where I can barely tell you who's who and why they're doing it. None of these people seem to have a perspective or a personality. None of these people seem interesting.

And again, I'm not gonna attack them and be like, you stuck and this sucks. You shouldn't have a show. But it's like, just speaking very generally, and it's not throwing barbs at anybody, the art form itself has kind of become milk toast. Well, yeah, the guys who, look over, you always had this kind of divide

between the Bill Hicks camp, if you will, and then the more guys who would get on sitcom gigs or whatever. I'm assuming there was a more legitimate divide years ago, but now the guys who are filling the Bill Hicks role, they're not being edited, they're like, I mean, Hicks and Colin were like, taking on the military industrial complex

in like middle American shit, and they were like, dick jokes and stuff. But it's like, these people are just so safe, but they're acting like they're these artours and these fucking like, oh, I'll be at your door. There is no more counterculture. There really truly is not a lot of people on the counterculture.

I think there's a lot of people who, because Trump was elected, they tend to think that all of the progress over the last 50 years has been erased. So then they believe that they are standing against the tide of all of this stuff that's supposedly coming back where, if you look at, and I'm not saying it isn't harder

for certain groups of people, but if you look at the numbers here, most people are pro-choice. Most people are kind of pro-game marriage, especially in the younger generations. Most people are aware of racism, not to say that they're too effective in doing anything about it.

But like, the election of this guy doesn't mean that everything has been reversed, and that now you're the... And I just find it a little gross, because like, yeah, I mean, racism is still a problem and you want inclusion, but like, there's no sense of like, even when you thought it was better 20 years ago,

you were still, I mean, you were even Obama. Like, he's fucking drone striking, Pakistani weddings, killing kids. No one cares. No one gives a shit about the rest of the world. No one cares. We literally act like a literal empire. Yeah.

And we're just starting war. Bush starts anywhere from 150,000 to a million people die. I think there was protests. I'm not saying no one protests, but I mean, Trump is terrible, in my opinion. You can just agree. Sure. But yeah, he's important.

He's saying terrible. He's just bad for society. But is he worse than Bush? No. No, and the thing is, it exposes us and our core. We are, the only business left in America, sadly, is the entertainment business. And we are all very invested in the idea

of how we come off. But the real true nature of what we're doing, as long as it's fucking underground, and we don't see it, and we don't hear it, and it doesn't rise to the top, and it doesn't bleed into the national news, and we don't give a fuck. Because it takes research, it takes caring,

it takes you to take a few minutes away from whatever the fuck you're doing, and people just really have no interest in that. They wanna feel like, when people voted for Obama, they felt like they were moving the country in a positive direction. Some of them were. But then, you had five wars,

and you had Yemen being destroyed, and you had Syria, Libya, and you had Iraq and Afghanistan. And the weird thing is, I think, is journalists being intimidated. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, whistleblowing. Whistleblowing has been tortured. He campaigned to a certain extent,

on like, we're gonna encourage whistleblowing, and then had the worst record of it. And by the way, this is not even a knock on Obama. This is the idea that this is the way the system just continually works. The tragic thing is, I'm cynical, I don't think he was like, but I do think of the pool of people,

he was one of the more, like, he wanted to do the right thing. I believe he, to a certain extent, he did. And that's, it's still, it still gets you there. But that's what people don't get, and this is what people don't get about Bernie Sanders, and this is what people don't get about Trump, and this is what people seem to not get about anybody.

Is that any one person is going against hundreds of years of the system. Think about an animal that's been fed every day to become this, you know, unruly beast. And then you're one guy, somebody hands you a sword, and you go in there, and you're like, all right, let me try to do something, and you know, maybe it can injure its leg,

but this is still a massive operation. People are still acting, or talking, as if we have this paradigm where, like, you could shame people. Like, you could shame politicians. When reality is, like, the insurmountable thing it would seem is that we talk about corruption, but they act like, oh, we can kind of overcome that,

but you're asking for corrupt people to vote against, to vote for the things that would remove their power. And it's just- I don't know how this changes without some type of truly wild thing. Whether it's a world war, whether it's an intergalactic problem,

whether it's a massive die-off, like a pandemic. Because the sad thing is that, you know, if you did have a lot of violence on the street, I'm not advocating that, but if you did have that, you would probably play into the hands of fascism more than any kind of freedom. It would play into the hands of the people that would then just unleash

the amazing power of the state to clamp down on it. I think you'd have to have mass civil disobedience, you'd have to have mass, but I just don't- When you get one agent provocateur throwing a fucking, you know, a pipe bomb, and then it becomes a fucking terrorist act. Yeah, that's a problem. And I'm trying to get hedges in here, and me and him will maybe talk about,

but I think what's far more likely, what's far more likely is just a slow unwinding of, you know, and the next 50 years being a 50 years, where the people that you will see rising to positions of power are charlatans, hucksters, conners, because those are always the people who come in at the end and they'll fight over the scraps. So the interesting thing is, like we talked about before,

like, yeah, the normal thing would be in this case for this empire to unwind itself over the course of a century. Right. But you still have this, like, insane military. Sure. So do we start war with China? Like, you know, these people are, it's not beyond these people. Nothing is beyond these people.

So, like, that's gonna be interesting. Nothing is beyond these people. A lot of people in the upper echelons of society are stunningly naive, willfully ignorant of what's going on. I think there's a, you know, you've got Harvard and Yale and all these people, they are products of a system that rewards conformity and encourages the type of discourse that leads to one conclusion in most cases, you know?

And that's why you have the rise of the far right and the far left, because these are people that are offering another option. Probably not a better option. Right. But another option. They're giving you the illusion of action. They're giving you the illusion of some things going on.

But I don't know, you know, when I talk to people all the time, they're like, well, what happens? How does it play out? And I go, I don't know anything. I just know that from talking to you and from talking to other people I know about economics, we are a big, a big event will probably be when the dollar is no longer the reserve currency.

Right. And that seems, and I've, a few people have said that that becomes, that will be an event. And people, I think we're moving away from that, for a number of reasons, I guess, but that was kind of a real big, immediate concern. Like, you know, and people thought by now, even it might be kind of, and it seems that we've kind of

shored up like that for a while. But I just, we're built on such a house of cards when it comes down to it, this whole Keynesian bubble shit. Like, it's remarkable they've kept it going for a couple of years. What do you make of the Stephen Pinkers of the world who are like, it's great. Everything's good.

Because they do point to statistics of like, people coming out of poverty in the third world, people being lifted out of poverty, infant mortality, you know, the ability to stop diseases, breakthroughs in science and technology, the availability of medicine, like things like that going forward, that they have a rosy outlook. Well, Tim, look, here's a problem.

It's undeniable to me that capitalism and the efficiency that goes along with it, and a number of other, you know, in a controlled way, has able to kind of raise up a lot, you know, the agriculture and stuff like that. But yeah, and so, yeah, we're better off than we were, but it's also like, yeah, the industrial revolution, the technology revolution,

but that also came sort of out of capitalism. And like, capitalism, if nothing else, is efficient, right? But you need to like, mind the store. You have to like, you know, make sure people aren't, you know, just tearing each other, the country apart. Well, also there's a lot of ethical and moral problems and you know, Slava Gizek and Peterson had that debate, which was kind of went nowhere.

But, you know, Slava Gizek had that point where it's like, you're gonna now hit this real moral question where you have biotech, you know, going into some very scary, interesting places. And if we're just looking at efficiency, we're gonna be in trouble because you're looking at some very, very questionable areas. What bugs me about, because it's become very like,

it's gonna be efficient to just put a chip in your arm so that if you pass out, somebody could know what medications you're on, what diseases you have, what any of your problems are so that- But there's the efficiency of the market and the efficiency of, and look, it's a response, at the end of the day, first of all, what did Franklin say? What kind of government we're gonna have?

He's like, a republic if you can keep it. Sure. And then the idea, and I believe that's really a powerful sentiment in the idea that like, it wasn't- We have not kept it. No, we have not kept it. But, you know, and I think 100 years ago, you know,

whether you're on the right or the left is people who talk about how the average worker, the average working guy, whatever, immigrants, and we're much better informed and much more engaged in the facts and in politics and in just, you know, in the world, and they've spent 100 years using the, you know, advertising and television and movies and music to basically, you know, a combination of, you know,

mind control, but also just like desensitizing, and like, hey, like, yeah, go play your iPad. And I get it, it's fun, I like video games. You like the Cup game. I like the Cuphead. Yeah. Yeah, but then what happens? You lose your phone.

I lose my fucking phone and then I pay my fucks. You lose your phone and then you're in this Terry Gilliam film where they're like, no, you did make that purchase. Right, exactly. Fuck you. Yeah. And that's where we are. That's where we are.

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