The Tim Dillon Show - 150: 150 - Your Thoughts Have No Value (with Luke Touma)
Episode Date: June 2, 2019Tim's final show from NYC! This week he's joined by fellow comedian Luke Touma. They talk about the recent Legion of Skanks/ Milo controversy, the idiocy that is the masterclass series, and how Tim fo...und himself at an open mic the other night. All this and more! Please Support Our Sponsors:Go to http://www.timdillonisgoingtohell.com and follow the link at the bottom to get 10% OFF any Wix Premium Plans!Check out Infinite CBD and see which one of their products is going to enhance your life. Go to th Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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And now, Tim Dillon is going to hell!
Welcome to Tim Dillon is going to hell everybody.
It is the last episode recorded from New York City, a once great city that I will be leaving
to head to Los Angeles, California.
You know guys, I gotta be honest, I was one of the only comedians that did it all.
I did the alt rooms, I did the clubs, I was respected by everybody.
That breed of comedian is dying and when I leave I imagine this entire city and comedy scene of which I have no interest in
will disintegrate pretty much immediately after I am gone.
As soon as they say wheels up and that plane is in the air, I would imagine that the mediocre New York comedy scene
that gets softer by the day will collapse immediately and it will be chaos without me
because I was really a mascot of this scene.
I was an avatar for it.
It is the end of an era and it is tragic for many people.
I have been getting messages all week from people that are trying to decide whether or not they should continue living on this earth.
Okay, with me today, a guy who has opened for me a few times, I mean comedically,
Luke Tuma, he is very funny, Luke is a New York comedian, he grew up in Buffalo,
which is what is your house worth in Buffalo?
Like $100,000.
$100,000.
Yeah.
$100,000.
Yeah.
Which is...
Alright out there, you can get a house in Buffalo for like 16 grand.
And it is actually a nice house.
Yeah, it is alright.
Yeah.
$100,000.
This kid grew up in a car.
This kid grew up in a BMW 7 series car.
He never had tuna tartare.
It took him to open for me at Mohegan's son.
He didn't know what tuna tartare was.
We were sitting in Bobby Flays restaurant Bar Marican.
Fine.
And they bring out a tuna tartare and this kid is like,
What is this?
And he just, he's so excited, which is nice.
It's always good to be friends with somebody who, you know, has experienced less in their
life than you have because I get very hardened and cynical and I want to experience things
through Luke's eyes.
So I bring him on the road and like, you know, when we, you know, go to a nice restaurant
or something or a place with like tablecloths.
I'm kidding.
How bad is Buffalo?
It's not good.
It's not.
It's a lot like Newark, New Jersey.
And it's like shitty.
It's like Philadelphia is the closest vibe I've seen to Buffalo, but it's like much,
Philly is much nicer.
Yeah.
Buffalo is like.
Well, Philly has commerce.
Yeah.
Buffalo had like a Kodak factories back in like the 1900s and then that's gone.
Will your family ever leave Buffalo?
Never, dude.
They were born and raised there.
They left each, like my mom and daddy's left for like two months of peace and then it's
that's it.
Sucked them back.
So you're the only person in your family to leave Buffalo and you're trying to become
a clown.
Yeah.
So how embarrassing is that?
Can you imagine his parents being like, well, yeah, Luke's leaving.
He's in New York.
Oh, what's he doing?
Oh, he's a comedian.
It's like it almost doesn't count, but yeah, it is nice to have you here.
I think you're one of the good ones, you know, and what I mean by that is white.
No, he's a, uh, you are part Muslim.
Yeah.
I'm Lebanese.
You're Lebanese.
Doing my first Lebanese gig.
Yeah.
You know which way the wind is blowing.
Very smart.
You're trying.
You need to start leaning into that hardcore.
Start wearing sandals on stage.
Get a little bit of that.
Yeah.
I am in the internet and you're in an interracial relationship.
Yeah.
My girlfriend's black.
And that's Jack.
Jack box.
Jack Lebanese.
Jack.
Suck a couple of dicks and I'll be good.
You might have to.
Yeah.
Listen, you gotta do what you gotta do.
What is a Lebanese comedy gig?
This girl Natalie hit me up.
She's Lebanese.
Apparently Dave Mirage was going to get the gig and then, uh, he's out of town.
So they booked me and I'm, it's for, it's called life.
And it's like Lebanese investment financial, I don't know, E something, but it's like life
is the acronym, but it's old, like 50 year old rich Lebanese dudes that like have an
investment firm and I'm going to be doing like a half hour for them.
And you don't really have a ton of bits about being Lebanese.
Literally zero.
So you don't have to maybe go off the top of your head.
Yeah.
And I don't even know anything about Lebanon or being Lebanese.
I mean, I'm going to eat.
No, you're from Buffalo, which is worse probably.
And they're not going to, and rich Lebanese guys in the city are not going to give a fuck
about Buffalo.
Well, it's when I get booked to do gay gigs, I don't really have a ton of material about
being gay.
So sometimes the gay audiences are mad because they just want to hear about themselves for
a half hour.
Do you, do you do a lot of gay gigs?
No, but every now and then I will get booked.
My friend at work is gay and I was like, oh, I opened for this guy.
He's my buddy.
He's like a gay comic.
He's like doing really well.
And he's like, what's his name?
And I was like, Tim Dillon.
He's like, oh, like, does he have any jokes about a gay lifestyle?
And I told him the joke about like jumping off the George Washington Bridge.
And he just like looked at me for a couple of seconds and he goes, well, that's dark.
I like Crystal Lea.
Yeah.
Well, good.
Good.
I like Crystal Lea too.
You know, my comedy is not for everybody, especially waiters.
You know, how about, how about getting a job?
What's your friend do?
How old is he?
He's like 26.
And what, what is he doing at working at the restaurant with you?
Waits tables and gets hammered.
And what, what is the ultimate goal for his life?
I think that's pretty much it.
Yeah.
Good.
I don't want him.
I don't want that.
I'm trying to get, I want fucking climbers.
I want a Gary V type audience of sociopaths that are trying to pull themselves up.
No, I will say this.
I will say this folks.
The Milo Yiannopoulos thing, and I don't want to spend a lot of time on this because it's
kind of, we get it.
And I think nobody cares.
It's not in the comedy community in New York City.
But to just rehash it, you know, Milo's publicist reached out to Legion of Skanks.
One of the reasons probably is because they build themselves as the most offensive podcast
on earth.
Okay.
So you would say, if there was a podcast that was going to host Milo Yiannopoulos,
that would be, it wouldn't be like, you know, Hoda Kotpe's show on Sirius, it would be Legion
of Skanks.
So they announced, they put a flyer out, Legion of Skanks is going to be the creek in a cave
in Long Island City.
Milo Yiannopoulos is going to be the guest Monday night.
They're always there Monday night.
And then there was the reaction, the, you know, stereotypical reaction of people that are concerned
about safe spaces and people feeling safe.
They then said they were going to show up to the creek in combat boots and start chucking
milkshakes at people and physically attacking them.
Those are the people that were interested in the safety.
They wanted everyone to feel safe, so they wanted to show up and start a violent riot
just to make sure that everybody felt safe.
How many people do you think that was total that we're like, I don't know, 50, 100 people?
Maybe.
All New York comics.
Well, a lot of them are New York comics, but then you have groups like Antifa, which is
the anti-fascists, you know, who show up to places with masks on and hit people with
bike locks again to promote safety.
They want a safe world.
So when Ben Shapiro shows up at Berkeley, they have a riot.
And when Milo Yiannopoulos showed up at Berkeley, they were like shooting firecrackers into
the auditorium again because they want a safe world.
This is how they want it.
And I guess, and then there was a lot of New York City comics.
I use the word comic loosely because here's the thing, I've been in the room when a lot
of these people are on stage, not anymore because they don't get booked anywhere.
But in the beginning, I saw a lot of these guys and women go on a stage and fight like
hell against what the verdict was that you should be nowhere near a microphone ever.
Like you should be as far away from a stage as you argue that Milo now should be.
But that should have been the response to half of these people getting booked should
be violent uprisings.
That's what it should be.
It shouldn't only be Milo, half of these people, you see the actor like, oh, the response
to you getting booked at the creek should be stomping boots and hurling milkshakes.
These people had careers that didn't work out in comedy.
Some of these people have very lucrative careers in things like writing.
Some of them are researchers for shows.
Some of them are in the sketch world.
But I do think it kind of drew a line between stand-ups and everybody else, like working
stand-up comics, like people that make a living talking in front of a crowd.
That's how they are in their living.
Because those people, if you're a real comic and you're up every night and you're training
in these environments and a lot of them are hostile and you're dealing with hecklers and
you're learning how to shut people down.
You're learning how to get your jokes out there.
You can't be afraid of words.
If you're a comedian, a real comedian, you cannot be afraid of speech and words.
That's your whole fucking job.
Yeah.
So if you're like working at it, you don't have the time to like start an online mob.
No.
You don't have the time to do that.
You shouldn't.
You shouldn't.
But I think even on a basic level, your business is words.
How do you get behind a movement to silence someone?
I don't care how offensive they are.
If you cannot shut that person down with your own words, your own arguments, if you can't
invalidate their opinions, that's all because the argument, and then we're going to, we'll
get off this, but the argument that these people make all the time.
And I try to find, because there's people that I respect comedically that I disagree
with.
And then there's a whole host of people who I don't respect comedically because there's
nothing to respect.
They just, there's nothing there.
I don't know what, you know, they're delivering food, they're walking dogs, and again, I'm
not, I'm not knocking those jobs, but these people have not proven, and they don't believe,
by the way, that it matters.
They think that they're as good as I am, or they think they're as good as Louie is, or
Kevin Hart, they don't believe in talent, they don't believe in hard work.
They think that the only reason that I'm in a better position than them, or that other
comedians are in better positions than them is because we've found a way to exploit some
loophole, or we have opinions that put us comfortably in the mainstream or whatever.
But what it really is, is that we're able to make people laugh consistently.
That's why you get work.
That's why you get booked, is because people will pay to see you do comedy.
If you are not getting booked, here's what it means.
Two things.
Number one, people will not pay to see you do comedy, and number two, nobody believes
that people will pay to see you do comedy, either now or in the future.
That's what it means.
That's what it means, guys.
It doesn't mean that you're too edgy and radical, and you're too much of a truth teller.
That's not what it means.
It's a simple business equation.
It means that people do not think that people will spend money to hear your thoughts.
Why?
Theme of the show, new shirt coming, why?
Because your thoughts have no value.
I want you to say it before you go to bed.
My thoughts have no value.
How freeing is that?
How nice is that to finally accept that what comes out of your mouth is immaterial?
It doesn't matter.
No one cares.
No one wants it.
Who ordered this?
Nobody.
It's a waiter putting a bowl of shit on the table.
Did you order the shit?
No one did.
No one did, and you don't have a right.
But they don't believe that.
They don't believe that, and this is why they fall so easily into Marxism and everything
else, because the idea that somebody's better than them or has a talent they don't or works
harder than they do, they hate.
But then, that's the majority of people, but then there are people like James Addome, who's
brilliant and very talented, who I would disagree with on this issue.
There's guys like Eddie Peppert, I don't know how he feels, but I'd probably disagree
with him, and he's one of the funniest people in the world, and I believe that.
So I'm not saying that everybody on the other side is not talented.
A lot of them aren't, but there are some very talented people that have, but the whole
de-platforming thing is this.
It's that the only reason that Milo Yiannopoulos is not literally Hitler.
This is what you have to believe.
The only reason that widespread fascism has not taken root in this country is because
people have not heard the message.
This is what they believe.
If Milo gets the platform, and his ideas, apparently, are so attractive, and the American
people are so irrational that they will sign on, and if that's what you honestly believe,
we have much bigger problems.
There's much bigger problems.
Doesn't it seem like they are showing a lot of respect for Milo's ideas?
They're like, we gotta keep this guy off Twitter, because if people hear this, they're gonna
love it.
Yeah.
This is what they believe.
They believe that the only reason that people aren't signing up to fucking, to follow this
guy to the end of the earth, because they haven't heard his ideas.
They're like, this shit's so good, we gotta keep it in the dark.
They think these ideas are so potent, you can't debate them, you can't knock them down
with logic.
That can't happen.
The whole history of rhetoric, and argument, and debate, and reason, we gotta throw that
out the window.
None of that matters.
The idea of how we come to a consensus, and how we flesh out ideas, we gotta get rid
of that, throw it in the street, because these people are wizards somehow, and they'll just,
as soon as they start talking, people lose the ability.
So I mean, so what's, so people that are on the other side, I'm like, so what exactly
do we do?
Should we run every podcast guest by Antifa?
Should we run it by failed comedians that live in New York City, and say, hey guys,
by the way, they vandalized Rebecca Trentz, they vandalized the Creek and the Cave, which
is where this was supposed to happen.
Rebecca did not book Milo, she had nothing to do with this, she gives comics autonomy,
she's always done that, she's done it for years.
People fucking vandalized Nazis, not welcome on the street in front of her restaurant.
And Rebecca has spent years helping comics, gay ones, black ones, people of color, trans
comics, everybody.
Rebecca's literally helped all of those fucking people, and her friends turned on her, people
that she raised money for when they had fucking cancer, turned on her, threw her under the
bus, put this out there, and then they got these other organizations, these anarchist
groups or whatever, to now start talking about boycotting the place and vandalizing it.
So shame on you, literal shame on you.
If the woman who raised money for you while you had cancer, if you were trying to get
the last bit of fucking relevance out of your failed comedy career by throwing her under
the bus, shame on you, how do you sleep, how do you sleep at night, and what is the plan?
What's the plan?
Every podcast guest is, we're gonna have to run them through an anonymous group of people
that wear masks and say, guys, this guy's okay, right?
You won't show up and violently try to prevent this guy from speaking, because that's, by
the way, that's what freedom of speech is.
It's freedom of speech without the threat of violence and intimidation.
People don't really understand that.
You can't, freedom of speech doesn't mean anything if you take five rifles and point
them at somebody's face and go, what do you think now?
Tell us.
That's not what freedom of speech is, you idiots.
What do you think about this?
You're a young comic, you're new, you're new, you just got to New York, you're in, you
don't really do a lot of open mics, you do more shows because you have talent and work
ethic which a lot of your friends don't have, they will die alone in the street like dogs,
and you'll have to watch that, and it'll be unfortunate, get away from them as quickly
as possible, but what is your read on it?
I mean, I think a lot of these people are nihilists, like you pretend to be a nihilist,
but you're not actually, you're a cynic, but like I think they want-
I care about the world and the children and the families and that's why people listen
to this show because they know that I have the right idea.
Tim Dillon has the answer, he cares about it.
No, they want it all to sink.
I think they just hate humanity and anything that they possibly might be a little mad at,
they just want it off, sink it, kill it.
What do you attribute that to?
They're resentful, a lot of it, maybe they hate their parents or whatever, but a lot
of these comics, they hate the world because they're so bad at comedy.
They're like, I had a dream, I said it to you earlier, it's like some of these people
never had any natural talent, but they were like, my dream is to be a stand-up comic with
none of the natural talent to be a stand-up comic.
It's literally like if tomorrow I was like, hey, Tim, I decided to pursue my dream of
being an NBA basketball player and you'd be like, Luke, you're 5'8", you're Lebanese,
you're like slow and uncoordinated.
I'm like, yeah, but it's my dream.
So like it's definitely going to happen because it's my dream.
Yeah.
And you'd be like, that's crazy, it doesn't make any sense.
And then it's like if 10 years from now, I hated the world because I didn't get to play it.
Yeah, they're angry.
They're angry, they're bitter, resentful.
And my whole thing is even more so than stand-up, there's a whole group of people out there
that have been told to follow their dreams and a lot of them follow them at their own
peril, whether it's the fucking Gary Vee, fucking Noise on Instagram telling you, you're
all going to be entrepreneurs, you're not.
You're sitting there watching Masterclap.
I want to watch Judd Apatow's Masterclass because there is no class for any of this.
You fools, there is no class.
I have a masterclass.
It's called, you're not an entrepreneur, you're going to die.
You're going to die thinking that you're going to run the show.
Get a job, be part of an organization.
Start there.
I have friends that want to be entrepreneurs.
They've never had a fucking job.
Have you seen the Steve Martin Masterclass?
God, no.
Steve Martin Masterclass.
I hope they all die.
Why is every celebrity that I used to like going to teach a masterclass?
Dude, you got to do.
There's a Steve Martin Masterclass.
How good is this money?
It's comics that we know are on it.
And he's like one of the comics, like, yeah, I was playing a funny bone in Ohio the other
day and like this thing happened with the crowd and Steve Martin looks and goes, what's a funny
bone?
Yeah, Steve Martin does it now.
Steve Martin's masterclass.
Steve Martin was playing stadiums and then he quit.
And then he started doing movies.
And now he's back teaching idiots how to do well at the improv.
Steve Martin's back teaching people how to host.
Well, you got to make sure that the crowd is quieted down.
I mean, what are we doing here?
It's it's great.
Can we pull up, by the way, Alex, who are these masterclasses?
By the way, who I know that Judd Judd Apatow is teaching one.
I think it's Scorsese teaching one.
God help us.
We can find you a list, but we also have the trailer for the Steve Martin one here.
Oh, God.
Yeah, let's watch this.
God, God help us.
This is God.
Hi, I'm quiet.
I'm Steve Martin and welcome to masterclass.
I was talking to some students and they were saying things like, how do I get an agent?
Where do I get my head shots?
And I just thought, shouldn't the first thing you're thinking about is how
do I be good?
I have a little bit of a pet peeve for comedians who come out and say, how are we doing tonight?
Why is anyone one of the most important moments of your show?
I would pause this for a second.
I would fire I would fire my manager over the phone.
If he brought this up to they would by the way, can you imagine me and that they would never have?
They would never have me on one of these.
You and Steve Martin, but just the idea that if like my manager or agent brought this to me
and they said, Steve Martin wants to teach you to do comic comedy publicly for this scam
called masterclass, because that's what this is to scam.
Yeah, I would I would laugh and then I would fire them.
And I love like I was like, well, miles a lot.
I respect people.
I get people got to work and in fairness.
I don't know what kind of money this was they were offered.
Yeah, because for a fucking number, certain number, I'd be sitting on the couch looking
to Steve Martin like, I will be fucking just I don't give a fuck.
And and by the way, I will now say this.
If I am on masterclass, no, it was great money because I will fucking sit there
and read the teleprompter on.
But this scam and can can you guys find like who's who's doing these?
Do you have a list of them?
Who are the people teaching these masterclasses?
Because I love the idea, by the way, that it's just you're selling people
on the idea that they're going to become proficient in something.
What's the judge one?
It's David Lynch, Judd Apatow, Aaron Sorkin.
Keep going.
Aaron Sorkin is going to teach you how to smoke crack in a hotel room
in Washington, D.C., which is what he he's a genius, though.
He's a guy that like, you know, all his drug problems, everything.
He's an amazing writer.
Gordon Ramsay, Phil Ivey, Aaron Franklin, masterclass barbecue.
This is this is like pen and teller Natalie Portman.
What the fuck is she teaching?
Acting Natalie Portman.
Be masterclass.
Be hot. Be gorgeous.
Yeah. Be hot. Timbaland.
OK, get this out of here.
Masterclass.
It's also like people that haven't done this.
How much is this? How much do I have to if I want a masterclass?
How much do I have to pay for a masterclass?
It's $15 a month. $15 a month.
Let me explain this to someone out there
that may be listening to the show.
And I don't want and this is in no uncertain terms.
I don't want to hurt people's feelings.
If you have paid a dollar
to a masterclass, I want you.
I'm telling you, this is what I want you to do.
I want you to listen to me.
I want you to listen.
I want you to go and get all the money out of your bank account.
Get every last cent.
Argue with the woman when she goes,
you've got to leave $5 in to keep the account.
Say, I'm not going to need the account, ma'am.
Take all the money. Go and buy a gun.
Seriously.
And I want you to blow your brains out
while watching the masterclass so that somebody
in some job has to wipe your brain matter off Judd Apatow's face
while he's telling you how to direct movies.
You fucking, I mean, Aaron Frank.
I want to be a pit master.
Aaron Franklin's masterclass.
You blow your brains on Steve Martin's like prop comedy.
That's a great start. It's great. It's a great start.
You're doing great.
I use props.
Can we play more of the Steve Martin trailer?
Because I, you know, there's
I hope to God, no one in my audience has bought a masterclass.
I hope to God.
This is worse than Gary V.
This is people you respect, at least with Gary V.
You know, he's a fucking clown and it's a scam.
It's a put. These are people you respect sharing.
By the way, is there anything that demystifies
something more than having a master like reveal all of their secrets
to fucking people that they cast to be in this or like you.
Steve Martin doesn't know who he's teaching.
It's anyone who pays 15.
So if you're a master, think of a master giving away the knowledge
at the end of his life.
He's going to give it to like an apprentice,
somebody who's worthy of it, right?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Anyone who's paid 15 a month gets the benefit of all my hard years
and learned knowledge and wisdom that I've accrued.
You pay 15 a month and it's yours.
If you're a Nazi, don't worry.
Don't worry, you fucking kids.
You're a pedophile.
Maybe you're taking the Jet Appetite Masterclass to make better fucking
kiddie porn doesn't matter 15 bucks a month.
You get it. You get the class.
You could be a master fucking kid fucking director.
Maybe that's what let's watch more of this, Steve Martin.
Sorry, we're out of time.
What?
We're going to talk about a lot of things.
We're going to talk about my specific process.
Thank you.
Performing comedy.
Hey, move that over there.
We're going to talk about writing.
Editing is one of your most powerful tools.
So that bit's not working.
It's gone the next night.
Now, what gets the laugh?
Whenever it's the word fuck that gets the laugh, I always question it.
And also my goal of mine is to work clean.
Well, then you should take our fucked up.
I never actually thought I was funny.
You may think I don't have any talent.
I guarantee you I had no talent.
Get out of here, dude.
This is also, by the way, this makes it seem like white people did get lucky.
Like it makes it seem like literally maybe everything's maybe these fucking people are right.
Like it's also such a good way to sell it because this guy doesn't know what
TikTok is.
He doesn't know Lil Nas X trying to be if you're trying to make
something good in this environment, you're insane.
You're an insane person.
Lil Nas X had it was that's like a parody song on TikTok.
He was number one and it just became a huge song.
Listen, there are these rappers now, like Young Gravy.
Now, I know Young Gravy because I sat on a megabus next to the guy who does
social media for Young Gravy.
Bring up Mr. Clean, Young Gravy.
It ain't horrible.
It ain't great.
Bring up.
Now, I thought Young Gravy was doing a parody of a rapper, a parody of a white rapper.
And I thought it was funny.
And I thought it was a joke.
I thought Young Gravy was in on the joke.
Gravy is not in on the joke.
Gravy is deadly serious.
And and I guess his fans don't care.
It doesn't matter anymore, whether it's ironic or not.
Yeah, like when I do those desk videos, people are like, is that you?
Is it a character?
I'm like, it doesn't matter anymore.
Now, don't you get it?
Trump is the president.
We're gone.
We're in the void now.
And Steve Martin, given this advice from 1970, you got a craft.
Hey, you got a craft at all.
You just got to craft it.
You see, you stop.
Let's watch Young Gravy.
Young Gravy.
Thank you.
Produced by White Shinobi.
I thought I thought Gravy was kidding.
I thought this was a bit.
Is he a white guy?
Of, I mean, if you're a rapper now, I assume you're a white child.
So great.
You see Gravy here.
He takes that toothpaste.
There's a boat doing donuts.
You see a nice, you can watch the Mr. Clean YouTube.
And now a guy with like a dad voice comes out.
He's not even particularly good looking.
He's like a tall guy.
He's sitting on a horse.
He looks like a cashier at 7-Eleven.
Yeah, with your mom in the kitchen.
Blueberry muff.
I'm like, all right, yeah, this is enough.
But I thought this was a game.
And then I realized that it starts as a joke,
like the Trump candidacy, and then it becomes real.
This is what people don't understand right now.
It's very interesting.
It's really an interesting comment on where we are.
And this is probably why some of these idiots
that are so afraid of comedy, they
think comedy is to blame for all this.
Comedy is not really to blame for all this,
because this guy, Young Gravy, is deadly serious, by the way.
But people are looking at this, and some of them
are enjoying it because of how over the top it is
and how ridiculous it is.
And it seems like in the world that we're living in right now,
to get attention, it should be over the top and ridiculous.
And that's why Lil Nas X got a lot of attention,
because it was kind of over the, you know?
I mean, what do you think of that song?
I mean, you love rap.
You listen to rap all the time.
The Lil Nas X song?
Yeah.
I mean, I think all the biggest people are just trolls.
Like the big Trumps to troll Lil Nas X
is a troll, Tekashi69 is a troll, Cardi B.
Like all these people are just trolls.
Kim Jong-un is a troll.
Yeah, they exist in the environment that we're in.
They totally do.
Which is why it's hilarious.
Don't you realize, folks, the irony of having a master class
at all?
Well, what's going to be amazing is, in 20 years,
Young Gravy is going to have a master class.
And it's going to be fucking hilarious.
Well, the master class right now
is how to manipulate people on social media.
That's what it seems to be.
The master class is not perfecting your crap.
It's going to work for like one guy.
No.
I mean, so these master classes are just, they're a grift.
And they're to get people out there sitting on their couch
eating Doritos.
They're like, I won't make a film to then go and watch
these people.
But when you look at who's succeeding in this environment,
I mean, master class, Lil Nasat, these people
are succeeding because they're being ridiculous.
And Steve Martin's being very earnest and talking about
and illogical and rational.
And the kids are sitting there and he's like, listen.
He's like, when fuck is the thing that gets left?
I question that.
And it's like, buddy, what world are you in right now?
What world are you living in?
Well, and you know it's so brilliantly sold, too.
Because the first thing he says, because they're selling it
to people that aren't talented because that's
who's going to pay $15 a month to listen to Steve Martin talk
when he hasn't done comedy in 30 years.
You know, here's a master class for stand-up comedy.
I'm going to give it to you for free.
Ruin your life.
Go to LA or New York and ruin your life.
Maybe start in Boston or Chicago first.
Ruin your life.
Destroy your credit, your relationship to your family,
your friends, and then reality.
And hopefully you come out on the other side of that
with a few credits and a little career.
But you might not.
That's the master class.
Now you say $15, you're going to need it from medicine.
What were you saying?
Look at this fucking freak.
I love this guy.
He's so terrifying looking.
I can't decide what kind of terrorist he looks like.
They just hired this guy.
Is it ISIS?
Is it Boko Haram?
He's white too, I think.
But he just has a look of somebody who's commune.
He'll commune with the prophet.
But this is my issue with them.
I did an open mic last night in Long Island.
I was crazy.
What are you doing?
I was out with my dad.
I went to go.
I was out.
Did you bring him to the mic?
No.
I went to my dad.
Me and my dad and his wife and her parents, who I like,
big libs, but very smart.
He's a lawyer, he argued in front of the Supreme Court
and whatever.
He starts talking about taxes.
I go on my phone.
I start talking about grieving.
And he's like, well, he says to my dad, he's like,
people like your son that lose interest after a few minutes.
I'm like, yeah, I don't give a fuck about your tax grievances.
Your tax assessment problems on Long Island.
And I hit him back from the left.
I'm like, I don't care about a bunch of white people
on Long Island with tax problems.
He's like, well, it's actually the black people that
are paying too much.
That's who we're trying to help.
Yeah, isn't that always how it is with you people?
Isn't it always interesting that you're always
trying to help black people, even at lunch
while we're eating shrimp cocktail?
You're always just trying to help black people.
Do you remember when we did that gig in Long Island
for those nine-year-old people?
Yeah.
And we walk in and your dad's in there,
and it's like a bunch of your dads.
The crowd was just your dad's friends
that were all senior citizens.
And we walk in, we were on the way up,
and you were like, I think these people might be old.
This could be an old crowd.
Oh, it was old.
And we get in there, and everyone's like nine years old.
We walk in, and your dad's like, Timmy.
And he starts introducing his friends.
He's like, this is Maurice, and this is Martha.
And as you're shaking their hands,
you lean over to me like, this is my worst nightmare.
Yeah, they're all ready to die.
They're all ready to go.
My dad's 67.
He's done logic.
I love him, but he cares about dogs and wine.
And that's it.
If you're not a glass Cabernet or a dog,
get the fuck out of his face.
He doesn't have any time for you.
So we're sitting there having lunch,
and his wife, who I enjoy, says, you know,
I'd like you to drive my new Ben's back to the house.
They just bought a little cottage on Long Island 2.
She's like, you're going to own that cottage one day.
And immediately, when somebody says that to you,
you go, well, when?
When are you going to die?
Literally, I'm 34.
When are you going to drop dead?
You might outlive me.
As soon as somebody goes, well, that'll be,
you'll own that one day.
It's like, when will that happen?
When are you going to die?
And it's not even a negative thing.
It's just the thing you're forced to think about immediately.
When are you going to check out?
Yeah, they're letting you know when we die,
your life's going to get a lot better.
Yeah, so die.
I'm not trying to be a dick.
But how many more holidays do we need to have
before I get the cottage?
I want the cottage.
I want a cottage.
So I'm, hey, hey, I'm kidding.
But, you know.
What was the open mic like?
So I said to him, I said, well, I'm
going to go to this open mic.
I messaged one of the guys that I started comedy with on Long
Island.
I said, is there any comedy going on tonight on Long Island?
The answer every night, by the way, is no,
unless it's like Sebastian is doing a power mount
or whatever.
Chelsea Handler is having a town hall meeting,
having a health care town hall, coming out and talking
to everybody about health care, after a decade
and talking about getting railed.
She's now an expert in espionage,
after she talked about getting it in the ass for a decade.
Now she knows about espionage.
She knows about the Mueller report.
Where do you get your analysis of the Mueller report?
I go to Chelsea Handler.
It's so crazy.
Do people be like, Cardi B took it to Trump today?
Yeah, I go to Chelsea Handler, because she wrote a story
a few years ago about shitting herself on a date.
So I said, if anybody wraps her head
on an international spy craft, it's going to be Chelsea.
Fuck her.
I saw her in first class at Dana Plain,
and I said, hello, she should know who I am.
I'm kidding, she shouldn't.
But the point is that she should.
And I go to this open market shakers pub.
I like the darkness.
That's why I'm into conspiracies.
I've always just been into that stuff.
I read a lot of alternative history,
and the media that I consume is not mainstream.
And one of the reasons is because I
want to know how bad it is.
And a lot of mainstream takes are sanitized.
I want to know how bad it is.
How dark does it get out there?
You don't have that, which is sweet about you.
That's very nice about you.
That's why I bring you on the road and stuff.
You don't have that, which is nice.
I like to know how dark does it get.
How deep is it?
How deep is the well?
You love that.
How loud are the screams?
You know?
So I said, let me do this open market shakers pub
in Oakdale, Long Island, which is part of Suffolk County,
Long Island, other than the Hamptons
and a few other Hamlets, is a very bleak place.
Is that where Levittown is?
Levittown's right on the border of Nassau Suffolk.
But once you get into Suffolk, it's very bleak.
I mean, it's so bleak out there where you go,
why are we afraid of MS-13?
A few papuces and machetes is maybe what the doctor ordered
because it's bleak and it's sad.
And it's what a lot of America looks like.
It's the erosion of America.
It's the erosion of what once seemed like a great idea,
which was suburbia.
You're watching it die in real time.
People cannot afford to live there.
There's a major heroin problem on Long Island.
There's big, big issues.
And you see all of that and it just looks hollowed out.
If I could use one word for this area, it's hollowed out.
It's fast food, it's bars, it's shitty,
little fucking, a little sex shops are out there still.
It's real.
You took me to Levittown and it was like fast food
next to cancer treatment places.
The only nice buildings left on Long Island
are radiology clinics where you get diagnosed
because everyone's gonna get cancer.
That's what everyone in Long Island is waiting for.
It's just the when and the where.
It's the when and the where to get that diagnosis.
And you're just trying to get cancer
so you can get in that building.
Is it after you shit a bloody steak tidbit
out of your asshole?
Do you then go, is it the colon?
Or is it after that last drag of a parley light?
Do you go, or is it something fancy?
Like a blood cancer or you piss and you go,
there's a real burning here.
It's just what part of your body decides
to rebel against you.
And that's what Long Island's about.
Maybe it'll be dementia, you know?
And if you get lucky, you just get whacked on the LIE.
Some 19 year old drug addict plows in you at high speed
and you don't even have to spend the money
on the radiology college.
You don't have to spend the money
on the radiology clinic.
It's just over.
Quick, the gnarling of steel, the smashing of glass.
I've been in five accidents.
I've enjoyed every one of them.
I have a total of five cars.
Nothing feels better than walking out of a car rack
and lighting a cigarette.
And standing on the street and looking at that rack,
it is one of the greatest feelings in the world.
And if you have not had it, you were a cuck.
But I'm out doing the open mic.
And I was all about the open mic.
As soon as I know, as soon as I, do you have a pot?
What's your podcast?
You took about MMA?
Yeah, I had one with Harrington.
What happened?
Harrington.
You know, I got busy.
Definitely, I'm still paying for the blueberry listing.
So we'll get it up soon.
That's never going to happen.
Well, it's literally never going to happen.
Bite me.
It was supposed to be me, Diego Lopez, and Harrington.
Where is Diego Lopez on everything with the Creek?
Where does that guy stand?
I know that he sparred with Lewis over the weekend
and really took it to him after Lewis said,
hey, maybe the guy's got some good points.
He just started kicking the shit out of Lewis.
Interesting, because he's like,
Lewis is getting beat up over my life.
I would wonder what Diego would have to say,
because Diego's kind of, I don't know.
I think he would see both sides of it, maybe,
or maybe not both sides.
I don't know.
I don't really care, either.
But the point is, I walk into this open mic,
as soon as I, let's get some photos of this bar
that this was at. What's it called?
It's called Shakers Pub.
I want people to understand,
when I say I like the darkness, I like the dark.
Like, I'm not fucking around.
Oh my God.
You see immediately, if you're watching this,
you see Shakers Pub, you see immediately,
this is not a place that supports life.
If it was a planet, you would say it does not support life.
It's just impossible.
There's no oxygen, there's no water.
I spent years in bars like this.
This is a place you go obliterate your life.
This is like, you know, there's not too much out there
that is really worse than this.
The saddest places on earth are bars that are in plazas.
Yeah.
Like when a bar's in a shopping plaza,
next to a strip mall bar,
next to a fucking big lots and a Taco Bell,
because you're getting all your sadness in one place.
Yes, that's a great point.
Yeah.
You're not really looking for the social aspect of it.
You're like, I want to get a burrito.
No.
I drank in a corner bars for years,
and I have now stuff in my act about it.
It was never social.
I was a degenerate alcoholic.
Were you an alone drinker?
Yeah, I would go to a bar alone
and then talk to the other people at the bar
that were there, but they were all fucked
and I would drink a bottle of vodka
and I would close to it.
And you know, you would just get fucking,
you'd get shitty.
Yeah.
That's why you went and the bar was up the block
from my house, but it was never social, you know?
It was not as social, you know?
And a plaza bar is especially not going to be social.
When you went out, you'd go out with like eight friends,
six friends, three friends.
Yeah, you'd get hammered.
You'd go out with your buddies.
Yeah, but we had places like that in Buffalo
with the strip, the shopping plaza bar.
Would you go every now and then?
Would you go in there?
Yeah.
Yeah, because you don't have a choice.
No, yeah.
In Buffalo, you got no other options.
Right.
You can eat chicken fingers for the fourth time today
or you can go to the shopping plaza bar.
Now you, and you never had any addictive problems.
You don't have like an addictive personality.
I do, but not as, yeah, no.
I don't know.
Also in Buffalo, it's very normal.
I had to learn that the way we drank in Buffalo
was not normal.
Right.
So when I moved out of there, you realized like,
oh, the rest of the world doesn't drink like this.
Yeah.
Because everybody's getting hamped,
but binge drinking.
But I've gone on the road with you.
You're pretty, you're not a big,
from my, you know, you don't smoke weed a lot
or you don't drink.
You're not a guy that wakes up
and puts a vape in his mouth, you know?
No.
Right?
No.
You're not that type of person.
No.
Yeah.
Not a big weed guy.
Yeah.
Were you ever, any, you said you liked to do coke
every now and then.
You stupid.
What's funny about that?
You can't admit that on a podcast.
I would let, yeah, absolutely.
I've done coke a bunch of times.
You've done coke a bunch of times.
I did coke all night one time with my friend Nick
and then flew from Buffalo back to Boston
where I was living and there was a Russian lady
with her baby and I'd been up all night doing coke
and the baby was like looking,
I probably wasn't looking at me,
but I thought the baby was like looking at me
and knew I was fucked up.
I was freaking out.
I've had some weird times on coke.
I did coke with a bunch of.
But then what happened?
I mean, I was free bugging out
and I don't know what got to Boston,
called my friend, thought I was overdosing on coke.
Okay.
The next day, which is impossible.
Yeah.
Can't overdose two days later.
I did coke with a bunch of trannies in Boston.
What happened then?
It's crazy.
What'd you do?
This girl, Numsha, she's the biggest coke dealer
in Boston, tiny little Asian girl.
We went to her birthday party.
She rented out a bar
and it was all like these like lady boys from Thailand.
And we went back to her place and she was like,
oh, we have fun.
It's my birthday.
And she brings out like a grapefruit sized ball of coke
and puts it on the table and it was just like half added.
So it's me and two of my buddies
and then like 10 of these transsexual women,
lady boys from Thailand.
And we were just doing coke with them all night.
And then like five hours in,
they took their wigs and their makeup off
and now they're just like dudes we're hanging out with.
Right.
So we have to like re-meet them.
Interesting.
Cause we met the female version.
So you're not, nobody's getting their dick sucked
from the lady boy?
No, I don't think so.
Interesting.
No, maybe my friends snuck out and did,
but I was more interested in the coke,
not the lady boy dick suck.
Interesting.
We gotta work on these stories.
They're good.
They're not great.
They need to get to the next level.
Somebody needs to get their hog sucked.
Somebody, something needs to happen.
You know, I got drunk.
I bought a house.
This is cool.
That's what cool people do.
But so get shakers, pop up again.
I walk in, I immediately know it's a problem.
I immediately know, would you,
would you have sex with a transsexual?
No.
Would you?
Are you into it?
I mean, I don't know.
Maybe.
I never say no, you know, I mean, I don't know.
I don't think so, but I don't know.
You wouldn't do a little extra for you
if the dude had a wig on?
No.
No?
No, I don't want women.
That's why I don't fuck women.
Well, I don't fuck trans, like I don't like it
because I don't like men.
Like there's, yeah, if they got a dick.
So if they have a dick, you can't do it.
No, man, I don't like dicks.
You heard it here.
He should not work.
He should never work again in comedy.
Look at shakers, pop.
I want you to show this bartender.
This bartender walked outside.
She lit a cigarette and she stood there.
This woman was really not happy.
Every, she just waddled outside, put a sig in her mouth.
She doesn't even look human, dude.
And she was just watching, there's a show,
I forget, Jamie Foxx's, what,
is there a show that Jamie Foxx hosts now?
Like a game show.
What's it called?
What's that show called?
Cause this one was.
Shazam, or Beach Shazam.
Whatever, the Shazam show.
She loved that.
She was watching that.
And she would walk out every few minutes
to smoke a cigarette.
I mean, at this point, she's really just waiting
for the devil to drag her to hell, you know?
That's all, that's the only thing left in her life,
sadly, and she's got to sit and listen
to, you know, 15 open mic comedians.
Look at, now the open mic is in a side room.
Let's take a look at the photo of this.
Cause this was, I mean, a horror beyond,
yes, which is too long tables.
It's very well lit.
There's, they usually have bands in this place.
They have all these signs that's like, no mashing.
No.
Can you imagine, you look like that woman.
You live whatever her life is.
You work in that bar at that age,
cause you need to do it to pay your bills.
And then after all that, they're like, you know what,
Cheryl, we're going to have an open mic.
Yeah, you know what Cheryl?
We're going to bring in.
Cheryl, tonight's open mic comedy night.
You imagine she doesn't even react.
She's like, what?
She has no idea what that even means, first of all.
She's like, Cheryl, tonight we're doing open mic.
People are going to come in and be comedians.
You like comedy?
Ha!
So immediately these people start filing in
and here's what I started to realize.
And I had this epiphany and I think this sheds light on
a lot of the Milo stuff too.
When you start comedy, you barely know what it is
and you know why you got into it.
And a lot of comics are troubled by, you know,
a myriad of different things.
A lot of them have issues.
A lot of them, you know, comics are very sensitive people.
A lot of them have anxiety.
A lot of them are depressed.
A lot of them self-medicate with drugs, alcohol, food,
whatever.
A lot of them are delusional.
They're somewhat narcissistic.
You kind of have to be to do something like this, right?
And you've got to be delusional.
That's the thing you have to be.
If you're not delusional, this doesn't work.
You have to have a healthy amount of delusion.
You have to see yourself as something that you are not yet.
And you have to believe that becoming that thing is possible.
All of those are ingredients that you need.
The delusion, the work ethic.
You need all that.
You need some talent.
You need some intelligence, which I didn't realize.
I didn't realize when I got into it
that you needed to be smart
and that a lot of people had high quantities of work ethic
and talent, but just didn't make good decisions.
And when the decisions mattered,
they made the wrong ones,
and a lot of it just came from the lack of intelligence.
And they were operating from an emotional standpoint
and not a logical one.
And I've kind of now realized how much intelligence counts
in this particular thing.
And I didn't realize that until,
I think, somewhat recently in the last couple of years.
But these people are all filing in.
What I realized was that comedy for me
was always something that I loved and wanted to do
and wanted to get better at
and wanted to earn money doing.
That was my goal.
My goal was to see if I could earn money doing it
because it seemed like this crazy thing
that would be almost near impossible to earn money doing.
I mean, it just was not,
if you told anyone you were gonna be a comedian,
they kind of smiled.
They were like, is this guy crazy?
Including your family and your friends.
Even though they would believe in you,
they would have conversations behind your back
and in front of your face where they're like,
it just doesn't, I mean, I'm sure that, you know.
Yeah, do you think these guys even consider
that the shakers pub open mic?
Did they even,
did they think about like,
I need to make money doing this?
I need to.
Well, here's what I started to realize.
What I started to realize is that comedy,
you're not doing the same thing.
You're not, you're at an open mic.
Let's say you're at an open mic,
you're there doing something else.
And a lot of the people are there
not doing what you're doing.
It looks like they are because they're getting up
and they're saying things into a microphone,
but it's actually different.
It's different and meaningful way.
A lot of those people are dealing with issues
that have put them in those rooms.
And very much like Alcoholics Anonymous
or like Group Therapy,
this has become a way for them to socialize
and for a way for them to kind of deal
with whatever is going on.
And a lot of times a lot of people get into comedy
during a transition, they just got dumped.
I was, you know, I had my job.
You know, I was in the mortgage industry that evaporated.
I sobered up, I came out of the closet.
So a lot of people go into comedy
because their life kind of hits a wall.
And they're like, what's this thing I can do?
Where is this place that no one can tell me to leave?
Well, yeah, and you see them on stage
and they're just talking about how shitty their life is
and how sad they are and they're not funny.
And you realize like, oh man,
you should have just gone to therapy.
Well, some of them get funny.
And some of them figure out how to do this.
The really only difference between me and the people,
because I have a very similar story to those people
who got in because things were fucked.
The difference is I learned how to get funny
and I learned how to have a career.
And those are things that you have to learn
and you have to be willing to be open to that.
But you have to start treating it like a business
which a lot of people don't do.
And when I went to that open mic,
I was looking at some of these people
and when I started talking to some of them,
I realized they're unwell.
You know, I mean, they're mentally unwell.
They're not well.
Something is wrong.
And it's wrong in a way that is obvious.
Yeah.
And there was a fight during the mic.
Fist fight?
Almost.
One guy turned around to the other guy.
There was this kid who was like stolen.
He was doing nothing.
Some lunatic turned around.
I was like, yo, who the fuck do you think you are?
And I'm like, wait a minute, what's happening?
He's like, who the fuck does he think he is?
And he's like, so then they separate them.
That's a whole thing.
That's the thing about these open mics is like,
the lines are blurred where like,
there's so many comics that can be actually funny,
but they're close to being actual crazy people.
And then act the same open mics are actual crazy people.
You forget how much mental illness is in the open mic scene
when you haven't been there for a while.
It's crazy.
You forget, and I was sitting there
and I'm watching these two guys almost fight
and I'm watching people go up on stage
and some of them are funny and some of them are crazy
and this is an open mic.
And I shouldn't have been there,
but I was only there because it's the same reason
I watch human trafficking documentaries.
You love the dark.
Well, I want to see how bad it is.
How bad does it get?
Everybody that loves conspiracies
or that loves any of that shit,
it's really just trying to satiate their need for darkness
and to an extent, if you want to look at it psychologically,
but it's also a lot of people that want to answer that
question, it's always one question.
How bad is it?
How bad is it really?
Yeah.
Did they off Kennedy?
Would they do 9-Eleven?
What would they do?
I love how it's like 9-Eleven Kennedy
assassination shakers public.
It's the same.
It's the trio of darkness.
If you had been there,
if you had seen the people
and some of them were fun,
but like they're also hopeless.
They're two hours.
And here's the thing about Long Island
and that particular part of Long Island.
It does not have any redeeming qualities.
Like if you go down to some,
you know, a Hick bar in some Southern state,
maybe it's folksy and it's got some fucking appeal.
Long Island, it's not.
It's just garbage.
It's just garbage and garbage people.
And it's a real unending nightmare.
Dude, you took me to that Tri-County flea market
in Levittown and it was a flea market.
It was like a three story building
literally filled with garbage.
It was just like people's old garbage
that they were giving away and spray painted t-shirts.
And we were like the only two people in there.
But I mean, these are the people
that are gonna buy the master class.
These are the people that are gonna go back
from the shakers pub open mic.
They won't even do it.
They won't even buy the master class.
No, shakers pubs below master class.
They won't even buy the master class.
And good for them.
Like they won't even buy the master class, you know?
They know what it is.
They're not, they're not.
There was a guy explaining to me, you know,
these guys run bringer shows for 20 years.
You know, they just find people on Facebook
that don't know any better or whatever.
And you know, this is what it is.
I mean, the, oh, if you think I got one guy
because I texted one guy that I was friends with
who now he doesn't do comedy anymore.
And he's like, I was like, are you gonna go to this mic?
My dad lives, you know, kind of close.
He's like, all right, I'll go.
So I got him to come back to comedy.
So I'm like, getting this guy to relapse.
He got out.
He's like, out.
I pulled him.
I'm like, why don't you do a set?
Yeah, but you, it was horrible.
Horrible.
Why would you do that?
Because I know he's out for good.
But you also kind of want him to be in the darkness with you.
Well, I wanted to recapture the fun of what we used to do
where we'd go to a diner afterwards.
And I thought it would be fun.
I thought I'd be able to go back and be like,
it'll be fun going to a diner
and shitting on the people at the mic
who were crazy and everything.
And not only was it not fun,
but it was, I was not prepared for how bad and dark it was.
And I was like, was it, maybe I don't,
maybe it was like that when I was there,
I just don't remember
and I just had the good sense to get out.
Yeah. I had the good sense to get out of it.
When you first start,
you're just psyched that you're getting on stage at all.
So you kind of, you notice that there's crazy people
and that it's a really fucked up place
that you're spending your time in,
but you don't really think about it that much
because you're just trying to figure it out.
I mean, I don't know what to tell you folks.
Here's my problem with the whole master class thing.
And then we'll get out of here.
There is no honesty anymore in this world.
And you know, people that achieve really great things
have to take, in many cases,
really uncertain paths to get there.
And it's kind of perilous
and there's a lot of sacrifice involved.
And it doesn't always even out.
Like you don't get all those things back.
You don't get it all back.
You don't get all these sacrifices
you made back at the end.
Now maybe you make a thing
or you do a thing that's worth it,
but you don't get it, you don't get the time,
but Steve Jobs will never have the time
with his daughter back.
You just don't get it back, you know?
It is what it is.
And there's a lie now
because we told a whole generation of people,
go and follow your dreams and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
A lot of what people that get to a certain level,
a lot of times you meet them,
you're like, they were always gonna get there.
They just chose to get there a certain way
and they're always gonna get there.
Masterclass, the idea of somebody sitting there
and you could sit on your ass, on your couch
and learn anything is hilarious to me.
You could really learn anything valuable
sitting on your fucking couch in your room,
eating a hero, watching masterclass.
Well, that's kind of what it is,
is like, let me pay $15 a month
so Steve Martin can tell me how to be famous.
Like, oh, I'm paying the monthly fee,
now I'm gonna be famous.
I don't even think these fuckers
are thinking about being famous.
I just think they think they're getting something.
They think they're really getting something.
Like learning?
They think they're learning.
They think they're learning.
It's even sadder than just this idea of like,
well, I just wanna be famous.
Yeah.
But there's no honesty.
We don't tell people, listen, you can take a route,
but at the end of the day, there's no guarantees
and you might decide, even if it works,
that you missed a few of those other things along the way.
Yeah.
You know?
And we don't tell people that
because people want a Disney version
of whatever else is out there, you know?
Where can people find you?
If people like you, which you didn't get a lot,
you didn't say a lot today,
but that's the way, that's my podcast.
The guest comes on and it gets spoken at.
Yeah.
That's what it is.
I mean, I've spent a lot of time with you, I know that.
You know how it is.
Now, why?
Why?
The theme of the show.
Shirts are cut.
Why?
Say it in the mirror.
Your thoughts have no value.
They don't have a value.
You don't get to run off the mouth
what you thought.
That's why you have your own podcast.
That's why you have your own friends
and your own girlfriend.
When you're in my presence, you listen to me.
You'll call me.
Yeah.
You'll call me and you'll be in the middle of like a rant
that you call me as if I've been listening
to the beginning of it.
You're watching the Golden Globes one time
and you called me and I was like, what's up, man?
And you didn't even say like,
hey, man, I'm watching the Golden Globes.
You just said, these people aren't saying.
I mean, this is a dark business.
You'll start a phone conversation like that.
It'll go for another 45 minutes.
I appreciate your friendship because you're okay with that.
Yeah.
Good.
My mom texts me, she's like, I feel bad.
I followed him on Instagram, honey, is he okay?
And I was like, why?
Sometimes he says really dark things.
I know, but what you have to tell her
is that mom, Tim's funny.
Say, mom, I'm trying to be funny
and I'm a little bit of a goofball, mom.
But one day when I crack,
I'll start saying some meaningful shit too.
I was talking about pedophiles.
You gotta tell her, you gotta tell her to go,
mom, I don't say anything that matters.
And I never have, but one day I'm going to.
And I hope when I start saying things that matter,
you worry about me too.
Because if you're just talking about fluffy,
goofy garbage, everything's going to be fine.
But one day, one day, Luke, I don't know what it'll be.
Maybe a girlfriend will leave you, something will happen,
you know, maybe she'll die.
You want me to crack.
I want you to say something that matters.
And you never will unless you experience some real tragedy.
And not just like, it snows a lot and baffles a lot.
Because you're a great comic, you're so good on stage,
you have a real way with the audience.
The only thing you're missing right now is a tragedy.
You know what I mean?
Somebody getting burnt to the ground.
Maybe, you know, and I love your mom,
I don't want anything to happen to her, but like,
maybe the house goes up in flames, you know?
Cause you're missing the thing that makes you go,
fuck it, I don't care.
I'm just going to say whatever, you know?
So just the next time she says to be like,
mom, Tim is fine.
Number one, mom, you should subscribe to his podcast.
Number two, Tim is fine.
But what you think is dark, mother,
it's just things that matter.
That's all.
And I've never said one.
But one day I will.
One day I will.
And that's when you'll really succeed.
But where can people find you?
Where can people find you in the meantime?
On Instagram at luke.tuma.luke.
At luke.tuma.
.t-o-u-m-a.
It's luke the little baby.
And on Twitter at luke.tuma.luke.t-o-u-m-a.
Tim J Dillon, D-I-L-L-O-I on Instagram.
If you want the real unadulterated
Tim J Dillon, D-I-L-O-I on Twitter.
TimDillonComedy.com for all these dates.
You gotta fucking start coming out
to some of these shows.
Fucks, buy tickets.
We have a great time at a lot of these shows.
Comics at Mohican Son, June 20th through the 23rd.
August 1st through the 8th, American Comedy Co.
in San Diego.
Side splitters, I'm sorry, in Tampa
that got moved to October.
I have some really cool down south dates.
I'm gonna be in Charlotte, North Carolina.
I'm gonna be in Nashville, Tennessee.
I'm gonna be in Hoover, Alabama.
I'm gonna be in Huntsville, or Hoover, something.
I don't know.
Listen, they're all on the website.
They're all on Instagram.
Tim J Dillon, D-I-L-L-O-N.
And this is it, is the final episode from New York.
Are you gonna miss me when I'm in Los Angeles?
I think you'll be back a good amount.
I'll be back a good amount.
I think I'll get just the right dose.
Because everyone, you know a lot of people that are,
you know, like, I don't know the word for them,
but they're like, they're young.
Yeah.
They're young people.
For sure.
Yeah, and you need some people that aren't young.
I'll miss you, but you're keeping your place.
If you weren't keeping your place, I'd be sadder,
but you'll be around.
Let me tell you right now, if in six months,
I know who you are, it means I have failed,
and I will not fail, you know?
This is one day, you're gonna be somewhere.
I don't know where you're gonna be.
And you'll be, you'll say, I knew that guy,
and he was a genius.
And now he's dead.
And now he's dead, but he mattered.
He mattered.
And you'll look at some check, you're in bed with it,
and you go, honey, we don't matter,
and we never will.
And then you'll turn off the light,
and it'll be beautiful.
And it'll be the end of it.
Good night, everybody.