The Tim Dillon Show - 226 - Whitney Webb #3

Starting point is 00:00:00 Ladies and gentlemen, that's a little too aggressive, you know, ladies, ladies, ladies. I want to get, like I want to come in from here and just kind of write ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Tim Dillon show. We are here two weeks out before Thanksgiving. I got fat again. I was thin on the Alex Jones podcast. I got fat again at Trader Joe's. You don't know how it happened. It always sneaks up on you as my boomer father would say every time you turn around, he's just talking to him about Corona. Yeah. I was just on a phone and he goes, you know, every time you turn around, he just doesn't fully articulate thoughts anymore. He just goes every time you turn around, you can't get ahead. They're always,

Starting point is 00:00:55 they're always coming after you. I'm not trying to get in any trouble. Every time you turn around, every time you turn around, he could wake up in the middle of the night, see his wife getting brutally raped and having a throat cut and he'd go every time you turn around, every time you turn around. Well, there goes that YouTube monetization. In the first minute, I said the R word. Not good. Trader Joe's makes you feel fat because Trader Joe's, you get aggressively, you get like confidently facts. There's a lot of fat women walking with their FOOPAs and Biden ones. So it's fucking Biden, Bon Bon Day. It's like get the cakes, get the ice cream. They're like, you don't tell me, bitch. And they got

Starting point is 00:01:43 their pussies out and their fat front puss, the FOOPA, right? Yeah, FOOPA. So they got the FOOPAs out and they're like, that's right, bitch. And then I start to look at them and I'm like, yes, bitch. And I start grabbing things and I start just putting stuff in the cart and they're putting in and they're like, are you getting that wine cranberry chicken salad? And I'm like, yeah. And everybody's just fucking, just waddling down the rows of Trader Joe's like, just putting fucking French vanilla ice cream in their ass. And because Biden won and everybody's like, you don't tell me what's pretty. So I got a little out of control and I got a loaf of French bread. Bread and butter is so good. It's one of the

Starting point is 00:02:30 things that's really good. You can just eat it. We have Whitney Webb coming up by the way. It's not all about bread. We do have the great Whitney Webb. She's on the program and out of all, I'm kidding, but she is very, she's very, you ask her one question, she just goes, you know, she's just like, well, the interesting thing about the freedom of information request that Eric Schmidt, who is the head of Google, the NSA and DARPA and the DEA. And it's like, whoa, smoke a joint before you fire that one up, but she's always got great information, you know, terrifying. Interesting. It's going to happen. These things are kind of going to happen probably. You know, I mean, Alex Jones was talking about

Starting point is 00:03:09 some of it on Rogan. The future is not going to be human, whatever. I can't get upset about that. It's interesting and I'm not thrilled with it, but I can't get too upset about because I know that I'm not going to see a lot of it probably, you know, this, you know, yes, we're going to merge with AI at some point, but I won't. I'm going to merge me with AI. You're like, you will die on your own. I'm not wasting anything on you. I imagine they merge Ray Komp with AI. Listen, like what? They just called me. They're going to make me in with a robot. They're going to make me into a fucking robot. Listen to me. I'm going to be AI. Are you? He was supposed to come out in December. He just got a promotion

Starting point is 00:03:56 at his job. So congratulations to Raymond Komp. He is a king. Finally being treated like a king. The creek in the cave in Long Island City closed. It's where I really started my comedy career. It was a Mexican restaurant. Did it serve expired food? Perhaps. Did they know how to melt cheese? Not really. You'd think that would be a prerequisite for a Mexican restaurant melting cheese, but that's okay. It was about comedy. A lot of great comedians came out of there. Not really, but some Donald Glover went there once. So they just say Donald Glover. He was like, just stopped in there once. Rebecca Trent, the owner loved comedy. When we appreciate her, she allowed comedians to go in there and get better at comedy. And

Starting point is 00:04:48 then the big brew. Ha, ha happened when the leaders of skanks podcast, my friends, Lewis J Gomez, Dave Smith, big J. O'Carson booked Milo, a enopolis to appear on the program last year and the comedy community in New York through a fit. And they threw this woman, Rebecca Trent under the bus. Big time. Now this woman, and I knew her, she had Thanksgiving's every year and Christmases for people that did not have the money to fly home to their families. Comics that had moved to New York City or people that just didn't have families to fly home to. She had Christmases for them. She raised money for several comics that had cancer. She allowed certain comics to like almost basically live at the creek in the cave

Starting point is 00:05:38 that didn't have a place to live. And then everybody decided that all of that didn't really mean that she wasn't a Nazi. They went right at her. They said, well, this woman, yes, she's fed us and let us stay here and given us a place to do comedy, but a podcast in her venue booked a gay conservative troll. So this woman, as you know, she's a part of the German Bund, I guess, I don't know. But it was a split in the comedy community between the comics that were like, hey, respect the right of artists to do whatever they want. And the comics that were like, she's a Nazi. And I don't like Nazis. Nazis are bad. So there was that very reasonable rational discourse that was had between people that were

Starting point is 00:06:42 like, well, we're respecting the right of a podcast to have on a guest that is controversial. And then on the other side, people that were like, are you going to put people in gas chambers, Hitler? You're like, well, no, it was just going to let a guy who lost his entire career appear in the basement of a Mexican restaurant on the Legion of Skanks podcast. A guy who had lost a book deal when it lost all the spots on Fox News, you would imagine that this would be the kind of justice you people wanted, right? I mean, he's literally sitting there as they fry fucking tortillas. And he's got to make a point about globalism. Okay, well, he has to step on guacamole. He's a Nazi and she's a Nazi and you're a Nazi. That's going to be the musical about this era.

Starting point is 00:07:35 Nazis here, Nazis there, Nazis everywhere. These people think it's like the sound of music, except in that era, there were actual Nazis everywhere. Now it's like, everybody's like, so she never fully recovered from that. Her image in the community, not to people like me, we dig her, but the loony tunes. Now the problem is when you own a comedy venue, many of the people that that go there are loony tunes. They're maniacal. So when you fall on the wrong side of crazy town, those people are angry at you. And that hurts your business because they say that you are supporting hate speech. And they had Anthony Kumi on and people went nuts about that. And unfortunately, this woman never and she called me and I spoke to

Starting point is 00:08:35 her about it. And I said, listen, Lewis called me, I remember I was outside of my apartment in Queens, Lewis goes, is this guy really that bad as Milo that bad? I go, I don't really think it's it's that big of a deal. But I said, then again, you're asking me, but I, I don't think it's that big of a deal. Um, that's me. But she called me and she goes, what am I doing? Am I doing the right thing here? I said, I think you are, I don't think it will end with Milo Yiannopoulos. I think if you would allow, um, people to shut down a controversial guest on a podcast, this doesn't stop with that guy. It just won't. And, and she, you know, agreed with me. And our business is closed. That's it. But I think it was a, it's the Corona lockdown. But part of it is that as a

Starting point is 00:09:31 mind virus that's eating the minds of many people that you knew and that you were friends with, and, uh, Biden's win will not cure them. By the way, uh, it will not cure them. And, you know, I feel bad for her because I think that was this weird turning point where the people that she had supported and the people that she had also just learned how to melt cheese. But the people that she had supported and the, and the people that she had gone to bat for did not really go to bat for her. I did. I was on social media, you know, bringing it up, saying this woman, all she's done is try to help comedians. But what are you going to do? You know, I'm trying to throw this friend's giving. We got to wait till Monday and see if Newsom is going to come out with more

Starting point is 00:10:24 regulations. Is Newsom going to shut us down? I got COVID tests for people. We're doing it outside. We got heat lamps. I just don't know. I don't know. I'm waiting for the, for the other shoe to drop. I'm waiting for Newsom on Monday. I could have it in, in deference. Well, no, that's not the right word, right? You could have what? I said in deference. That means in support of, oh, right, right, right. In spite of Newsom, I could have it in spite of Newsom and just say fuck him and I could get arrested at a friend's giving. I was going to have a wheel of pasta where they make the, you know, they make the pasta in the wheel. I can't have that now on my own. What if they don't have it and I don't cancel the caterers and then they show up and I'm just sitting there and I go toss it again.

Starting point is 00:11:17 I've eaten like three. They're like, this is unhealthy. I'm like, toss it again, please. I don't know. It's going to be like that scene, Monty Python at the end where that guy's just eating and eating and blowing up. But the menu is great. I mean, we got a menu of food here. You don't even know what I mean. You go fuck your mother. We got Manus Calcos guy. You know the guy that Sebastian Manus Calcos makes egg plant with? I love Sebastian. He's a, he's levity in a time where everyone's talking about Corona and the civil war and Sebastian's and he's like, you know, sometimes, you know, you got to have a fucking sauce, you know. Are you embarrassed with the ragu and the prego? You take the, you take the fucking onion and a garlic and you put

Starting point is 00:12:08 it, you know, and outside just, you know, just bombs going on. But you need, you need levity. You need people to focus on tomato sauce and garlic and stuff. But you do. Let's say anything negative. I believe you do. I believe that you can't have everyone be me. Yeah. Somebody's got to come in there and go, you ever had the Coney Hammond cooking? Who's this guy, George Floyd? What are people doing? Why is everybody screaming? What is everybody screaming about? Well, Brianna Taylor, what's Brianna's? You mean Brianna? The suits? I love those. They're suits. They fit their custom suits, Brianna. What are we done? What are we done here?

Starting point is 00:13:01 You need that. You need somebody to come in and go, let's talk about pine nuts. It's true. Let's talk about pesto now. I can't be yelling all the goddamn time about Nazis and people trying to kill you and transhumanism and veal. You need somebody to come in. So I got his guy who's going to be fucking doing real great food tossing, you know, pasta and a thing. And I just don't know if we're going to fucking, if Gavin Newsom is going to shut it down because, you know, he's a miserable prick. I'm kidding. I know that there's health concerns, but let it happen. What if there was a party called the let it happen, like the, like a movement called let it happen. Let it rip. Let Corona rip. Be stronger on the other side. By the way,

Starting point is 00:13:55 New York City is just, the kids got to go back from school on Monday. How great is that? You're disgusting children are back in your house. You got rid of them and you sent them into the New York City public school system to learn how to fucking do drugs. And then you get them back in the house on Monday. You got to deal with that. How was school? Good. We learned how to put on condoms. Great. Well, welcome back. You could go put one on in your room. Try. I mean, I don't know what the plan is here, but I just, you know, at a certain point now, I don't want to do the police take me out of my own home as I'm like holding a cheese wheel of pasta. Is that what has to happen for freedom? I mean, yes. Well, yes. Do I have to fight a cop in the doorway of my house

Starting point is 00:14:50 with pumpkin ravioli? We're having pumpkin ravioli with the brown butter sauce and sage. I mean, do I have to get shot by a cop in the doorway to my house because I just want to have a little dinner party? Everybody's made as COVID in LA, by the way. It was my maid has COVID. My maid has COVID. So they lock her in a room like our maid, you know, I was in a Hampton, the Andrew Collins brothers, like the maid had COVID. So we just made her quarantine, you know, they just locked her in a room and they're like, we brought her food. It's very nice. Of course I had no way to authenticate if they really brought her food and what kind of food they brought her, you know,

Starting point is 00:15:35 they brought her cereal with water, you know, they probably googled the least amount of food she could survive on and brought it to her. Yeah, the maid has COVID. You know the day she recovered from COVID, they're like, let's go. The day she tested negative. She's like, I'm still kind of a little, let's go now. Vacation's over. She's like in the room, can't breathe. Some cunt in the hand to say, Hey, hey, hey, okay. Listen to me. Vacation is Juanita vacation is over. You've taken some personal time and we appreciate that. Okay, Josefina, but now it is time to come out here and do your work. Do your work. Maybe it all evens out, maybe when we all die, the women from the Hamptons are on their knees scrubbing. Wouldn't that be great? Who knows? I don't know if that's

Starting point is 00:16:38 the case. I'm unaware of what happens, but I think that there's very little chance that that's going to happen. Very little chance. But it would be nice. What if we did like, what if we wrote a show about maids just infecting their host families with COVID? You know, just really trying to infect the host families with COVID. Great. You know, yeah. What was that show? Wasn't there a show about maids? It's a show desperate housewives and the maids were featured prominently. Devious maids. Yeah. Devious maids, except they are giving the families COVID. I'm going to give that bitch COVID. I hope she gets COVID. I'm going to lick every single class. And when she has her Pino Grigio, I hope she gets COVID.

Starting point is 00:17:39 I'm just hoping I don't have to have a standoff with the LAPD over this cheese wheel. And I'm anticipating that could happen. I'm standing up for the freedom of you and your family to have a cheese wheel. You want to feed YouTubers out of a cheese wheel? Well, guess what? I'm standing up for your right to do that. Okay. I know no one's, I guarantee all the people I want to come are not going to come. And it's just going to be me, this kid, and then I'm not going to say who, but there's going to be people there that, you know, spend a lot of money on catering. It's not exactly going to be the A list. Let's just say that. There'll be a lot of people there that, you know, best thing that happened to them would

Starting point is 00:18:22 be COVID. It's just, let's just say that there's going to be a lot of, there's going to be a lot of problems. I'm hoping not. I'm hoping everything works out and everybody comes. You get some good interesting people there. When you've had the same car insurance or homeowners insurance for years, you kind of get trapped into paying your premiums and not thinking about it. It makes it really easy to overpay. Trust me. You don't even realize it. Okay. I've had my car insurance forever, and I don't even think about it. I just pay it and then I go, this is too much money. Hello. No. I say that sometimes. Parties are weird. I've never really thrown a party. I've really never thrown a party. It's

Starting point is 00:19:03 like the first thing I'm trying to do. So it'd be fun to do. I'm moving into a new thing. I thought it'd be cool, you know, but I've never really, I would go into 10 parties, but I never really threw a actual party with like food and shit like that. I've never done that. Have you ever done that? No, never. Well, of course not. But your wedding was going to be the first part of you through. Pretty much. And weren't you just going to get like a tot, like troughs of food and a few people like pigs and stuff? That's what you were going to do. What were you going to do? Like barbecue in Texas. It's going to be fun outside Austin. Do like line dancing and stuff. Yeah. Square dancing. Square dancing and line dancing. That's fun, huh? But weren't you going

Starting point is 00:19:43 to have a taco truck? No, no, no, no. You can do a taco truck. No. Was it going to do a taco truck? Are you going to still have a wedding? Yeah. More like a celebration in April. If things are still not closed, right? So you could do a celebration in April. Yeah. Yeah. Down in Austin. I'm booked. Unfortunately. I'll wait. You know the dates so you can I didn't want to go. Listen, Ben's wife hates me. So I didn't want to go. She does. I didn't want to go and disturb your wedding by being there. You know what I mean? So that's why I didn't want to go. I told you I was booked, but I wasn't really booked. Did you know when I told you that I was booked? I wasn't really booked. No, you did have a date unless you made a fake date on your website.

Starting point is 00:20:22 I made a fake date. Did you really? I did make a fake date. I had Steinberg do it. With like a fake link and everything? I don't know how in depth he got. He's a demon. He's a demon from now, but no, I didn't want to go and ruin your wedding. Well, you're invited to the celebration. Well, I don't believe that, but that's very sweet of you. Ben, like, I don't know. You're your family super Christian. I didn't want to. My mom watches the show now. Oh, she watched all your Rogan appearances too. Well, good. And she's buying a sauna this week because she's been watching so much Rogan also. Okay. Well, that may not be the best. I don't know. That's phenomenal. But I will be there this time. I will be there. I will be there this

Starting point is 00:21:06 time. I'll be there this time. I'm very, I'm very excited about it. Get a nice bathtub of pulled pork. But my event, which will be a little bit more, you know, I will probably be a disaster. I've invited some fatties. And what I'm concerned with is fat people can get violent. Truly. Yeah, they can get truly violent. And I've invited some real houses to the party. I mean, some big, thick and, and I'm just hoping that the spacing is good because that it's not that big. What are you laughing about? There are some, yeah, there's some big people coming. There's some, there's some people that are large and in charge. Yeah. If they come. Some of them may not, you know, they might do what I did with Ben's wedding where you're going now.

Starting point is 00:22:11 And then you send a gift and I sent a beautiful gift. Yes, you did. This is our joke. I didn't send a gift because I believe if I don't go, I don't give you a gift. I don't give you a gift if I'm not there. I mean, that's just the reality. You know what I mean? You know, I'm not going to go to Dan's wedding. He's got a few more days left. A few more days left of this before he's out of here. We block him. You know, it's just what happens. Ben's the only one that's going to stick around because Ben understands that without him, I would just be committing acts of domestic terrorism. I said that to the girl at Whitney's, the girl from cheer, you know, this, this,

Starting point is 00:22:53 this white trash rat that Whitney had at her house. What do you think I care? You know, this tattooed animal, Whitney thinks cheer, when he comes, he cheers like a big, can you shut the stop it? Whitney just likes poor people and she likes to play with them like Play-Doh. So she likes to, she likes to bring them in her hot tub and she's like, wouldn't it be fun if one day you weren't desperate? Maybe that would be fun, huh? Do you think that would be fun? I don't worry about anything ever, but I bet you do. And I bet the nights are cold. Are they cold? Are they cold? We're getting a hot tub. And so she has this meth head

Starting point is 00:23:41 in her hot tub who's a cheerleader, which, come on, like competitive cheerleading in Texas, like I give a shit. So I walk, supposedly it's the most watched show on Netflix. I don't give a fuck. Everything on Netflix sucks. The Queen's Gambit sucks. It sucks. It's bad. Everything's bad now. It's not good. The chess thing they should make is when Bobby Fisher went nuts and wanted to juice, we have a fun chess story. The day of 9-11, Bobby Fisher called the radio station, said, going over to juice. Why are we, that's a fun chess story of how he went to there, how he became that. That's a fun chess story. Not fucking, hey, this bitch likes doing, taking pills and chess. Who cares? So nothing's good. I don't care if it's the most watched show on Netflix.

Starting point is 00:24:34 What's the second most watched? The ranch with Ashton Kutcher and that other guy? The most watched show on Netflix means shit to me. I don't care what people do. Some idiot who's swimming around in a bathtub of sweet tea and fucking, it just longs for a time that she could see her own foot is watching people do tumba salts. It is impressed. So I care. I think not. I think not. Oh, they have a lot of followers on Instagram. I want less followers. I want less followers because I don't want to feel guilty because the end of this is Heaven's Gate call. We go to the Hellbop comment and drink poison. I will get all of you to drink poison. My point is this. I go over to the house and this girl, who's this? I'm sure is sweet.

Starting point is 00:25:33 She's with some other kid. They're all tattooed. They're in decent shape. I'm unimpressed. I'm there because I want food that Whitney will purchase, which I always offer to buy, but she buys and I think that's a better system. So they're in the hot tub and I go and one girl says to me, she goes, I really lucked out with my manager because I lucked out with my manager because she's like, I want to build businesses around my passions and not just do random brand deals. She goes, I also really am looking for guidance. I want people to guide me and steer me in a direction, but I don't want to be controlled. I just want guidance. She goes, what would you like to do? I'll turn and she's in the hot tub.

Starting point is 00:26:15 I looked at her. I said, I want to commit an act of domestic terrorism. Do you understand? So I'm looking for someone to help build a terrorist network around my passions. Do you understand? And not just random brand deals. I want guidance. Imagine somebody in Al-Qaeda being like, what I like about this organization is that I don't feel controlled, but I'm giving guidance, giving guidance by the Saudis, the CIA, bin Laden. The girl kind of laughs. She's like, cheer. No one cares. No one gives a shit about your shitty lives. I don't care that they put them on Netflix. I don't care that, you know, it's a big deal on Netflix because there's so much heart. These kids have so much

Starting point is 00:27:04 heart. You're there on meth. One of them went away for CP, child porn. He's got a lot of heart. He's got too much heart. He's good on CP. Stop glorifying these shitty things that no one cares about. I'm a competitive cheerleader. Stop. Get, grow up and graduate school and go work at the Dairy Queen and make the Blizzard good. Let's not call it cheer. Let's call it people that will make Blizzards in five years on Netflix, future Blizzard makers of America on Netflix. And there's nothing wrong with that. I respect the Blizzard. We might get one later. But Whitney's got them over, you know, and Whitney's like, show me your scars. Show me the scars of your, of your poverty. When he's pretending it, when he's got like

Starting point is 00:28:03 nail people coming in, Whitney's like, Whitney's like, these are the people that do the nails for us. There's Cardi B, right? Yeah, Cardi B. These are the people that do the nails for Cardi B. Literally, as she said that, I'm at her table and I go like this. I go, is there two marinara sauces or one? I wanted two. And these kids are like, I just want to build businesses around my passions. Like what, meth? Pull her up. Get the girl up that was on there. She did drugs. That's all right. She's a good person. We respect her. Yes. What did she do? She did some crank, go to the mug shot. What did she do? There you go. What'd she do? She's a little crank. There's nothing wrong with that. I respect that.

Starting point is 00:28:56 Oh, a position of marijuana. I think marijuana. All right. Well, I feel bad now. Stupid. What else? I thought it was something good. I thought it was something good. Well, there's a CP guy as well. Well, he got a CP. Who cares? Let her smoke. He was over two. He's like a weird vegan and the other guy was a pescatarian. And the other guy goes like this. The other guy goes, yeah, I'm a pescatarian. What kind of weirdo only eats fish? I'm like, I love fish, but if you're going to take a moral stand, it's ridiculous. That is a lot of weed. What'd she have? A usable quantity and the amount of two ounces or less? Yeah, that's not a lot. Not for these people. They just smoke weed and go to Water Burger.

Starting point is 00:29:49 And we got to watch it like it's fascinating because they can do a somersault. These kids have so much heart. Get this out of here. That's CP on the bottom. There he is. This guy, yeah. He's CP. He was the fun one. He was the fun one. He was the star of the show. Cheer. Give me a C. Give me a P. Give me a C. Give me a P. CP. I got to, I got to sit there and he's like, you should do a dance with them. It'll be the most shared video on your Instagram. I'm like, I don't want to show them up because number one, I'm a better dancer than they are. Here's the reality. I'm a professional dancer. I've been schooled in tap, dance, ballet, hip hop, hip hop, jazz. Jazz is like, you know, jazz,

Starting point is 00:30:52 but hip hop is, is where a bunch of white kids in the suburbs have like inflatable boom boxes and they're like, yo, yo, yo. And they do hip hop, hip hop like this. Just fat white women being like, yeah. And they put on like Run DMC and they do hip hop. I'm schooled in all of these dances. I don't do as much gymnastics as they do, but I'm a better dancer, modern dance, Irish step dance. I'm a better dancer. So I didn't want to, I don't want to embarrass them with my ability to dance. There was a dance teacher. I went to the school called Legs and Rockville Center. I like to say that because I want people's real lives to be heard. And I'm kidding, but it was, it was, they were good people. The woman who I'm talking about is clearly dead. I'm not

Starting point is 00:31:41 going to say her name. Her name was CeCe and she was a dance teacher who always showed up drunk and she was a bomb ass dancer though. And I was like, you know, I was like, like nine and like, like just starting to get fat. And then me and this other kid used to compete, this kid, George. And my dad, my dad, of course, when you want a son, you want like a heterosexual son that you could like, he's like, on the baseball field, like killing it. My dad was a great baseball player as a little kid. But instead he got this, like me with like a boombox and like, you know, like, hey, Mr. DJ. And the only kid that I, the only competition that my father could get involved with is that we both hated this fat kid, George, who was also another dancer. And my dad was like,

Starting point is 00:32:19 George looks like an Italian baker. I was like, yeah, fuck George. You know, we all hated George. And then CeCe was this, our hip hop teacher and she used to come and drunk all the time, just fucking drunk. Like she'd booze it up on the train from the city. And then she would just be like, bad. She'd just say, bad. All the time you go, bad, bad, bad. Like she just walk up your face and be like, yeah, bad, bad, bad. I don't know if she was gunshots. She was drunk and like, she'd put like the music on like, we can't play any damn music. But it'd be funny. She'd be like, she's like, stop, she'd keep, turn the stereo off and she'd be like, bad, bad, bad, which meant you're not doing good. Which is the whole thing Whitney does in her dump show. She goes,

Starting point is 00:32:59 bad, bad, bad. And that's not a dump show. It's a great show. It's the greatest podcast has ever been. But the point is this, I love her. The point is this, I call everything dumb. Cheers, great. Everything's great. And so this CeCe, who was drunk all the time, used to always be like, when somebody would fuck up the steps, she'd be like, bad, bad, bad. And people would be like, and sometimes she'd stand in your face and go, the parents was like a well-to-do area. The parents were like weirded out by this. They'd be like, why is she doing this? And she'd just be like, and then she would just start like, she was a fucking good dancer. Like you would imagine like she grew up in probably some not good situation where she would just fucking start

Starting point is 00:33:49 busting a move, you know? But she was, go to legs, see if she's still working. She's not. We had a lot of fun teachers there. What were I typing? Legs, like dance? Yeah, legs dance. Rock the center. Who's still over there? Yeah, go to that. Go to that. Go to staff. Go to staff. Faculty will do it. Wow. So Diana still works there. Wow. She's got to be old as fuck, but no CC. Yeah, CC was a fucking gangster. They're bad, bad. You wouldn't even know what you did wrong. She would just stop the music and go, bad. You know what? And then she would do it the right way

Starting point is 00:34:43 and he'd be like, fuck, that's the way to do it. She'd be like, bad. Like she didn't have the power of language, you know? And then the people would be like, this is very strange. And then you would say, could you just spit booze? You get in your face, spit booze and stuff, but she was a dancer. She was a real hip hop dancer. They probably hired her. They found her in like some bodega, just like dancing outside. And the lady who owned the place was like, why don't you come? We have a lovely dance school in Long Island and all of our kids love hip hop. Yo, Daddy G. So why don't you come here and tell everyone how to be an OG gangster? Like yourself. Teach everybody how to be a gangster like yourself. And she's like, bad, bad. And you would just show

Starting point is 00:35:28 up so shit-faced. But she was a fucking gangster. I wonder if we could find her. We're never going to be able to find her. Can't find her. We can try. Try CC dance. And then legs. Yeah. I don't know how to spell CC. Oh wait, hold on. I feel like that's her. I don't know if that's her street name. No, it's not CC Paniston. It might be her street name. Yeah, maybe. I don't want to call out her for her whole government. We should call. Can we call legs? Are they open right now? Let's call legs right now. Please don't find out what happened to CC. I'm very, I'm very concerned. Call them right now. Call them right now. Please thank you. Call them right now. Where is CC? What is she doing?

Starting point is 00:36:28 Hi. I'm the only famous person that's ever went to your school. I'm kidding. I'm not famous, but I'm doing better than these other fucking, I'm doing better than Fat George. My dad was like, he looks like a baker. I'm like, we're all faggots just so, you know, I know you're having fun being competitive, but we're all faggots here. Sorry. That's the name of my new show coming out on CBS. We're all faggots here. It's a bagel shop. We're just a bunch of guys. I know. Can you get me on the phone with these people, please? She used to go like this to you. Nah, nah.

Starting point is 00:37:10 She'll say that. I'm like, I tried to do it the way you wanted. She did. Nah, nah. Call is not going through right now. Why isn't it going through? I hear it. No, I would say. Oh, okay. Let's fucked up. Right to voicemail. Whitney Webb is coming up. Whitney Webb is a journalist, writer, interesting woman. We love having her on. We just had to have a little fun first, as we always do. We got to have a little fun here first. And then thanks everybody who signed up for the Patreon. We really appreciate that. Most people don't know about my career as a dancer. No. And it's, it was a great career.

Starting point is 00:37:55 Why do you, why do you not, why do you not understand that? I was remembering all the things you've been a swimmer, a dancer, an actor. Correct. Yeah. Did you not want me going to your wedding because you thought I would, I would be a better dancer than everyone? Is that why you didn't want me to go to the wedding? Hurt me greatly. Ben did not want me to his wedding. That's okay. Ben was going to have one of the door guys at the comedy store say the vows. It's a joke. Whatever happened to the door guys at the comedy store, they all dead. They got furloughed. So they're just all unemployed now.

Starting point is 00:38:36 Yeah. A lot of them moved home. You know, maybe they should go teach hip hop dance on Long Island. One of Madonna's backup dancers was at legs. He taught a class there. Oh, slam. His name was slam. Yeah. He's in her documentary truth or dare. Winnie Webb is coming up and we did, what about an hour with her? About an hour. Do an hour with Winnie and it's good. She's got some good stuff. You know, what's coming up, man. She goes a lot into the COVID vaccine. She talks a little bit about the election, what's going on. You know, there's just a lot going on here, kids. And you better get ready for him. Better get ready. My dad calls me because it's just going to be me

Starting point is 00:39:27 and my wife and her daughter for Thanksgiving. No, like, are you coming or what are you doing for Thanksgiving? You know, it's like, it's just going to be us three and, you know, we'll just see what happens every time you turn around. Every time you turn around, you're just something else. This is another one. This is another big one. Something else. Every time you turn around, it's something else. She's getting her head and she's two guys like bashing her head into the the counter, the dining room. My father just looks his blood splattered on his face. He goes, every time you turn around, it's something else. Whitney Webb. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Tim Dillon show. We have returning

Starting point is 00:40:13 favorite fan favorite, one of my favorites, Whitney Webb, independent journalist. Go and support her right now at Patreon, Whitney Webb MPN, which is stands for Mint Press News, which she quit, but that's still her name on Patreon. She also has a channel on Rockfin, which is a YouTube alternative that monetizes. She can make a little bit of money there. She's also got a book coming out about Jeffrey Epstein and the Sorted Affair. And we have her on today because so much is going on. And we just had a presidential election, we think. And we wanted to know what, what is your take on these voting irregularities? Is there anything there? Well, I think the election is a total mess. And I think, you know, in terms of what is,

Starting point is 00:41:07 is going on right now in the U S in terms of the election, I think basically there's a situation that's being engineered where we're having where they want one side to accuse the other side of orchestrating a coup and have the other side accuse their opponents, I guess, of doing the same thing. So basically, Republicans accusing Democrats of a coup and Democrats accusing Republicans of a coup, leading towards this sort of what I would argue, or sort of the foundations of what could become a sort of an engineered civil war type scenario. So I do think there are some sort of issues with the election system. But oddly enough, a lot of people in the Trump circuit aren't really focusing on what I think a lot of the issues are. You know, there's a lot

Starting point is 00:41:51 of emphasis on voter fraud, as opposed to election fraud. And I think a lot of the causes for concern have to do with the increasing control of Silicon Valley in the election system, and also the fusion really of Silicon Valley with the federal government. And Silicon Valley, of course, most of those billionaires were backing Biden by a significant degree. But they also, you know, donate to Republicans, but they donate significantly more to Democrats. And actually, the DNC, a lot of their top tech officials, like their chief technology officer, their chief security officer, come from places like Facebook or Twitter. And Facebook and Twitter and Google also were part of the Operations Center for the election run by DHS. I don't think they honestly should have been there because they're

Starting point is 00:42:39 very politicized entities, right? But in terms of like what was going on in specific claims, I mean, there's a lot of accusations being thrown around. So I'm just trying to speak in general terms, right? Because there's a lot of different things that different people have been pointing to. But I definitely think there's just a lot of efforts to get people really divided right now, as we go into the so-called dark winter that we've been hearing a lot about, and trying to keep people mad at their neighbors for having the long sign of the other opponent or another political candidate instead of paying attention to a lot of these billionaire groups, like the World Economic Forum or some of these Silicon Valley billionaires and whatever, that definitely have agendas that

Starting point is 00:43:24 no one supports, or most Americans want to support. Now, what about the machines? The voting machines, there's a company, and I forget the name of the company, but you're going to know, and they are, they have a lot of, a lot of the voting machines are this company. And supposedly, Trump is now tweeting about them saying that they're an issue because they switched half a million votes in Michigan from Biden to Trump, but they caught that glitch. But he's wondering about what glitches maybe weren't caught. Do you know the name of these machines, my producer's looking it up, or the name of the company? Yeah, it should be Dominion, Dominion is the main one, but they're also, they also run software

Starting point is 00:44:05 tied to another company called Smartmatic, which is also another big voting, electronic voting machine company, but it's worth pointing out, in pretty much every election, since these machines have been introduced, there's been security concerns with them that really neither party has wanted to address. And I would definitely argue that, you know, elections in the US have been manipulated by both parties over the past 20 years on several occasions. Sometimes, you know, different parties have different preferred tactics of how they either want to suppress the vote or manipulate the vote. But, you know, I don't think either party or either, you know, Republicans or Democrats, their establishment wings anyway, have really any

Starting point is 00:44:46 interest in addressing a lot of these core issues. And honestly, what I'm more concerned about is this push that we're seeing to implement a new software created by Microsoft in the, in the military contractor called Election Guard, that they're saying is now going to be the software on most voting machines by the next presidential election. So, you know, no one's talking about those sort of issues, right? What is that, what is that software going to be? Well, it's already out, it's called Election Guard, and it was developed by, co-developed by Microsoft in a company called Galoy, whose only investor is the Pentagon. They do work for DARPA. Lovely, lovely. Yes, yes. So they want to protect our elections. And that, you know, the more they

Starting point is 00:45:33 promote these concerns about foreign interference and fraud and things like that, the more Microsoft is able to pitch and say this is the solution. And the guy that's in charge of cybersecurity for the elections and all critical infrastructure, Chris Krebs of DHSS CISA, is the former VP for Microsoft, who's been lobbying Election Guard this whole time. And he's been in charge of protecting elections this cycle. And he, you know, I would argue that's sort of a conflict of interest. He's been lobbying for Election Guard this whole time. So what you were really, what you were doing is such a great job of kind of just really charting, you know, the course here of the beginning of the technocracy. Like, this is the beginning of how Silicon Valley comes to

Starting point is 00:46:21 own all aspects of American life. Yeah. Yeah, that seems to be what this is, from automobiles, to homes, to shopping, to what you searched for on the internet, to your emails, to your cell phone, to the car, the services you use to get around, your credit score, any interactions you have with the police, whether you're protesting or not, anything you think or feel, any business, any, anything. Silicon Valley is now going to control every aspect of American life. And we're seeing that. And they're kind of inflating, whether it's coronavirus or this election, they're just saying, listen, these problems are much worse than you think. And the only way we can solve them is by instituting these new regulations and with software that we provide,

Starting point is 00:47:13 and we're going to have to put it everywhere, and you're going to have to use it or die. Yeah, no, I would definitely agree with that. And something that really needs to be focused on, I think, by people more that hasn't been getting enough attention is that we have gotten to a point where we cannot separate Silicon Valley from the state anymore. They've essentially fused, and this is hugely dangerous to the future of the country. You could argue that the line between Silicon Valley and the state was always blurry because a lot of these big Silicon Valley companies like Google, for example, originally received funding from groups like the CIA's NQTEL, for example, which obviously comes with some sort of strings attached down the line.

Starting point is 00:47:54 Right. But what we're seeing today is that Microsoft, for example, which produces election guard, they're a major US government contractor, so is Google, so is Palantir. A lot of these companies contract and have conflicts of interest with the state. And then you look, like I mentioned earlier with the Democratic Party specifically, you have a lot of people in prominent positions at the DNC being former chief executives for a lot of these Silicon Valley companies. And then you have people like Eric Schmidt, the former CEO of Google, basically running the whole modernization effort at the Pentagon right now and for the national security state more broadly, including the intelligence community. He's wielding way too much power. He's also potentially in a Biden

Starting point is 00:48:39 administration been fielded to head a new industry task force, which is very alarming because of what he envisions for the future of the United States being a largely automated economy where very few people have jobs and most work is done by artificial intelligence or robots. And what's really concerning is that a lot of people in the US government are now on board with that because there's this whole, again, it doesn't get a lot of attention, but there's this sort of AI arms race, I guess you could say between the US and China. And people like Eric Schmidt and Silicon Valley and people in the military say that it's essential for the US if the US is to remain number one in terms of military hegemony and economic hegemony, that we have to have better AI than China

Starting point is 00:49:25 and the only way to do that is to extract more data per citizen than China does because China has an advantage of a larger population, more developed smart city, mega city functionality. More people have smartphones so they can get a lot of more data than people are getting than the US government right now or the Silicon Valley companies can extract per person in the US. So the idea is to get a lot of these smart cities going which have basically smart cities are just full of all these sensors that constantly pull in more and more data and to basically advance what's often referred to as the fourth industrial revolution in the United States to an extent far beyond what probably most Americans want and a lot of this is being done under the guise of combating coronavirus.

Starting point is 00:50:15 So what do you have that? Implementing a lot of these humanless technology saying it's oh it's going to keep us safer but really a lot of these people wanted to do this well in advance. I mean plans for this go back to 2018 at least. Well what kind of data are they harvesting in a smart city would you imagine? What kind of data are they mining in a smart city? Well so basically in smart cities you have you know sensors basically on everything it's the internet of things so you know street lamps have sensors and the sewers and all of this stuff. Every every aspect of infrastructure has some sort of sensor tied to it. Your kitchen appliances all

Starting point is 00:50:53 this stuff it's all supposed to be connected to the so-called internet of things and that creates an basically a constant supply I guess you could say of data and the way to create better AI is to have more data that's being constantly fed into this artificial intelligence algorithm. How has crime dealt with in a smart city? Well one of the companies that plans to deal with crime in a smart city is called Carbine 9-1-1 which you may have heard of because Jeffrey Epstein invested in it but it's also invested in by RIP Jeffrey Epstein RIP Right and basically Carbine 9-1-1 what it it's basically a nine to replace the 9-1-1 call system

Starting point is 00:51:37 in the US but what they envision is that eventually people won't be calling 9-1-1 anymore the smart city for different objects will call emergency services for you if they determine that there is something wrong in a particular situation or in your home or wherever any of this stuff is it's basically you know a push for the elimination of privacy and but even before you know smart cities are you know fully functional or established in the US Carbine 9-1-1 has a predictive policing component basically what it does is that when you call a 9-1-1 call center that uses it with your phone it pulls all of the data off of your phone analyzes your past behavior your present behavior and then extrapolates that to predict if you will be the future victim or perpetrator of a crime

Starting point is 00:52:26 at some point or if you'll be located in the vicinity where a future crime is likely to take place which obviously has super you know or welling and implications and how are they judging the data on your phone how is that giving them an idea whether you're going to be a victim a perpetrator or in the vicinity of a crime that's such a wild idea but I mean it's it's very interesting right well you know it's all based on this this artificial intelligence you know how it's being trained a lot of these algorithms or machine learning algorithms aren't really transparent a lot of them have have been shown to have an extreme racial bias whether it's you know machine learning facial recognition software for example being racially biased and a lot of

Starting point is 00:53:10 predictive policing programs like the one that Palantir tried to do in New Orleans were also shown to have a racial bias so even though a lot of these people promoting this fourth industrial revolution stuff say it'll be more equitable and it'll help fight racial inequities and all of this stuff a lot of the technology they're using in practice has not been shown to do that so the Alexa's really are the beginning when you talk about you know the Internet of Things and you know objects in your house calling 911 if they think something's going wrong so you know we all of these Amazon Alexa's I don't put a lot of people do in their home do you have one Ben my producer Ben has one he has an Alexa and uh get rid of that please well that's all right my finding

Starting point is 00:53:50 my phone's tapped already if my phone's not tapped they're not someone up there's asleep um but the so the Amazon Alexa is just the beginning that's kind of preparing you for smart products around the house where will you be talking to everything are you going to be talking to your refrigerator are you going to be talking to everything pretty soon well I uh you know that's sort of the idea so talking about Amazon's Alexa right Amazon just put out a new wearable I forget what it's called but basically not only does it um make a 3d model of your body um and all of this stuff but it also gauges your emotion during the day oh you sounded sad today oh you didn't like you know between two and three p.m. you sounded depressed or at this period you sounded happy when this happened and

Starting point is 00:54:35 all of this stuff uh I don't really want to be giving you know personally I wouldn't want to be giving Jeff Bezos uh the world's richest man that kind of information about me and you know it also has you're wearing it so it has a microphone it records everything you say everything that people around you are saying um you may think that it's for your convenience it'll help you get more I don't know I guess fit right now it's a lot of how these wearables are being sold sort of as fitness devices but they're also surveillance devices is this the end yeah is this the end of humanity and this is the beginning of us fusing with machines and is there anything that can be done to stop that from happening because that's what I'm hearing when you come on

Starting point is 00:55:14 and we have these discussions it sounds like basically this is the beginning of us merging with AI to become some type of superhuman well yeah uh so unfortunately um you know obviously I'm a big critic of this type of stuff but if you look at things like the fourth industrial revolution and the world economic forum um and all of that stuff essentially what the fourth industrial revolution is is not just an automation of the economy and also introducing AI into the economy it's essentially merging the natural and digital worlds and now we're hearing more and more not just about the internet of things but the so-called internet of bodies that through wearables and other advances in this technology that people will be increasingly connected to this you know

Starting point is 00:56:01 extreme connectivity that does sort of merge humans and machines and it's really no coincidence that a lot of these people identify as transhumanists um that's also true for Silicon Valley for example like at Google they employ futurists like Ray Kurzweil who's probably one of the best known transhumanist supporters who think that it's the pinnacle of human evolution to merge with machines the question that the issue is is that like I was saying earlier a lot of these very powerful individuals think it's necessary for the only way for the US to maintain military and economic hegemony is to implement the stuff farther than anyone else has done up to this point it's the only way to have our AI be number one because that's where they're saying the economy's going

Starting point is 00:56:44 and it's the next industrial revolution so to be the market leader and you know for national security purposes we have to be there first this should really alarm a lot of Americans because when it comes down to economic hegemony and military hegemony these people do not care what regular Americans have to say about that they're not going to put this to a vote they're not going to ask people's opinion you know they they it's market leader at all costs and we've made other countries to prop up the petro dollar like Iraq and stuff like that so they're not going to ask you know regular Americans opinion if they want this implemented well here's the other question what are they going to do with regular Americans because

Starting point is 00:57:20 regular people that work at Walmart are not going to get they're not going to merge with machines so what's going to happen to all these people when we have AI doing all of these jobs what is going to happen to the millions and millions hundreds of millions of people that are not highly skilled that do not have the resources the money the political cloud what is going to happen to them I mean is there is there any talk about what happens to the poor the middle class the the the people that are not you know considered elite or essential like when when when when Eric Schmidt or whoever goes most work in the future is going to be done with AI what do we do with all the other human beings well uh basically you know

Starting point is 00:58:02 there's a lot of talk from these people the world economic forum which by the way is all billionaires a lot of very predatory billionaires and so-called vulture capitalists you know compose the world economic forum uh they do not uh really give a crap about regular people even though they like to cloak a lot of their initiatives and words like sustainability and equality and all of this stuff basically what they aim to do is create one large underclass what I would refer to really is neo feudalism powered by you know all of this technology because really the only way such a few number of people can keep the masses uh under control is by uh technological means basically through the creation of a panopticon and um it's really no coincidence you see

Starting point is 00:58:46 companies like Palantir promoting that sort of um ideology as it was originally developed uh the idea of the panopticon is to have people being constantly surveilled they don't know if someone's listening into them or not but their concern or their fear that someone is listening induces in the subservient obedient behavior and they begin to internalize that behavior and then they just obey authority I mean that's basically the the idea behind this and so that's sort of why they're doing it and if you think about it the only way for those people to maintain uh this extreme inequity that we see in the US now for example is for them to implement some sort of system like this and they know that especially now because of what's gone on especially over the course of this year

Starting point is 00:59:31 those inequities are worse than ever and at some point people will rise up and ask for a bigger piece of the pie so these people are thinking how to prevent that from happening and a lot of that has to do with the implementation of these Orwellian surveillance technologies which by the way the national security state tried to implement a lot of this after 9-11 but were unsuccessful in doing so there was a program they tried to implement that was being overseen originally by DARPA called Total Information Awareness and basically there was pushback from groups like the ACLU and even mainstream media saying that this would erode and eliminate privacy in the United States and they ended up shutting it down officially but those programs got divided up and went to

Starting point is 01:00:11 different agencies like the NSA and DHS and all of this and now under the guise of coronavirus a lot of these are coming back and if you actually go to places like the World Economic Forum's own website they talk about how in 2030 in the future there will be no privacy anymore well that's the article I was just going to ask you about that so there's an article on the World Economic Forum which is amazing and I have it on my Instagram and my producer is bringing it up it's on my Instagram story where I said we were talking to you and everybody was very excited there's an article in the World Economic Forum and this was somebody that writes for the World Economic Forum and the title of the article was welcome to 2030 I own nothing have no privacy

Starting point is 01:00:52 and life has never been better and it is somebody detailing what they imagine life is going to be like in 2030 and to get that article up Ben Ben's gonna get that article up the quotes from the article are pretty astounding about you know how we don't you know we and it's a lot of what you talked about the last time you were on the show it's like well we don't have shopping anymore and you know we don't really nobody works that much the majority of the work is done by AI and and you know we're happy we don't own anything and we have no privacy it's pretty haunting here are some quotes which are are are pretty haunting it goes you know welcome to my city or should I say our city I don't own anything I don't own a car don't own a house I don't own any

Starting point is 01:01:39 appliances or any clothes it may seem odd to you but it makes perfect sense for us in the city everything you consider the product has now become a service we have access to transportation accommodation food and all the things we need in our daily lives one by one all these things became free so it ended up not making sense for us to own much again it all seems lovely but when then you think about then you are also on the grid you have no freedom your life is programmed for you by people and basically this person who wrote at the end they made a little thing and they said well this is I'm imagining what the future is for better or for worse um they said first communication became digitized and free then clean energy became free things

Starting point is 01:02:26 started to move quickly transportation dropped dramatically it made no sense for us to own cars driverless vehicles you know um environmental problems seem far away um you know when products are turned into services nobody has an interest in things with a short lifespan so everything's designed for durability repairability recyclability the death of shopping I can't remember what this is for most of us it has been turned into choosing things to use some of it I find fun some of it I just want the algorithm to do for you um and then they went out and said my biggest concern is for all the people who do not live in our city those we lost on the way those who decided that it became too much all this technology those who felt obsolete and useless when robots

Starting point is 01:03:09 and ar took over big parts of our jobs those who got upset with the political system and turned against it they live different kinds of lives outside of the city so again this is really everything you're talking about about these smart cities where everything is provided for you and you have no freedom here's one that I love this is terrifying quote once in a while I get annoyed about the fact that I have no real privacy nowhere I can go and not be registered I know that somewhere everything I do think and dream is being recorded I just hope no one will use it against me wow and that's someone imagining the future and by the way not the distant future 2030 2030 10 years from now everything you think say will be recorded hopefully nobody

Starting point is 01:03:55 uses it against me and I don't own anything nothing is mine and I have no privacy is this what they want uh yeah I mean I would definitely argue that that's the case because you know um if you go back and you look at the history of the US power establishment we're broadly speaking I guess the western power establishment there is this view that the masses are dangerous that they're they they give in to animalistic desires and things like this a lot of this you can see um from the father of US propaganda himself Edward Bernays who was a nephew a nephew I believe he was the nephew anyway of uh Sigmund Freud and basically used Freudian psychology and applied it to the psychology of the masses to manipulate the masses on behalf of both government and also corporations

Starting point is 01:04:40 and now we're at a point essentially like I was saying earlier where a lot of these corporations have essentially murdered like Silicon Valley corporations um have merged with the state and you know this type of ideology that the the masses give in to their bestial animal driven desires and they have to be controlled by people who are smarter uh the elite I mean that's basically the basis of this whole technocracy idea is that there needs to be an elite um who who are better suited per their opinion obviously better suited to drive uh the direction of society and that people the the masses or whatever shouldn't really have or should be guided by them and shouldn't really be able to make their own decisions about how their lives are lived and so basically uh

Starting point is 01:05:25 this is just the logical conclusion of that type of thinking which has really been pervasive in the US and UK and in other western countries and those power structures for a long time. Is there any way is there any way to stop this in motion is there any way to fight back against it? Yeah uh one deprive these people of your data uh start uh that's hard if you have an Alexa in your house uh don't do it yeah you know I mean there's some things that you don't really need um you know I mean obviously for some people they have to have smartphones and stuff um but you can always use like I don't know a burner phone when you go out and keep your smartphone at your house deprive them of your location data at least but things like Alexa and the wearables and all of

Starting point is 01:06:08 that stuff that is a really slippery slope uh in my opinion but beyond that I think really the best way to beat this is to not buy into this to what they're trying to do now at this election where they're trying to have us at each other's throats and then we're ignoring these people uh when really people on the right are opposed to this agenda and people on the left I mean these are the the predatory billionaires that progressives are usually railing against but this is what you know the type of world they want to create what I really hope what happened on the left that the left became fans of the CIA and Silicon Valley and it became this rabid identity politics were as long as somebody was the right gender the right color that whatever the message didn't

Starting point is 01:06:56 matter it seems like as long as it's Kamala Harris Kamala Harris as long as it's uh what what happened where the progressive just meant delivering because progressive now to me seems like it's just delivering people to the doorstep of this this technocracy is what it really feels like they are the ones railing for speech restrictions you know a lot of people on the left are railing for the restrictions of speech online they want to get people the platform they want people to not earn any money they want people to be regulated they want people to be watched what happened how did they get the left which when I was growing up during Bush the left was the one saying we shouldn't be going to war we shouldn't be monitored we shouldn't have an

Starting point is 01:07:45 oligarchy and why now does the left seem to accept all of that um well I think a lot of this started to happen during the Obama year specifically in a lot of hopes for reversal of Bush era policies were placed on Obama and then obviously he continued a lot of those policies but then the focus became by and large an identity politics and you were told in a lot of cases you couldn't criticize Obama because he was a person of color and things like that that it was racist to criticize Obama era policies which is just ludicrous if you bothered to think about it but I really think most of the damage was done after the 2016 election particularly under the guise of russia gate where we saw people like former c like cia directors themselves being added to you know left

Starting point is 01:08:27 leaning cable news channels to deliver people on the left the news themselves so you don't even need things like operation mockingbird and things like that where the cia would compromise or utilize journalists you have the cia directors themselves marching out and telling the public what to say it's like operation mockingbird how quaint it's like now we just have john brennan on morning joe just pull up a chair here's some coffee and tell us whatever horseshit you want to tell us for an hour yeah well like on msnbc you have like the the daughter of uh brezinski who was national security advisor under jimmy carter who was over oversaw operation cyclone which created al qaeda right and was involved in a lot of very uh controversial things um and a lot of these agendas that we're

Starting point is 01:09:12 seeing play out now he was involved in setting the foundations for that and now she's you know a major talking head on on the left network right but at the same time um you know there's a lot of censorship in independent media and alternative media done by the silicone silicone belly platforms and they they definitely censor people on the right but also on the left and a lot of the ones they censor on the left are actual progressives that have attempted to you know carry the torch of the ones you know in the bush era you know cindy shehan for example who was a really famous anti-war protester during the the bush administration um you know she's still around and has a podcast and all of this stuff but you never hear about her anymore and she's still saying the same stuff

Starting point is 01:09:53 and promoting the same policy she was promoting then uh but unfortunately you know in in establishment left media discourse today i mean you don't really see uh voices like hers elevated anymore instead you see you know people like russia gators or people like rachel madow uh and on all that stuff those are supposed to be the the thought leaders of the left right when where is just laying max well and why is she not what's going on there why is she not where why is there no trial is this because of coveted well they pushed up remember they pushed off the trial until like next july and who knows what state the us will be in then and if they'll they'll even be a trial i think that's really convenient um you know i i think also just because everything that's going

Starting point is 01:10:40 on no one's really paying attention to eppstein news anymore like bill bar just came out and found no wrongdoing uh in the uh with alexa costa and the sweetheart deal and it's worth pointing out that bill bar used to be at the same law firm as eppstein's defense lawyers and then the whole issue of his dad having hired eppstein at the dalton school and all of this stuff yeah and you know there were still people in the pro trump wing saying that bill bar is gonna fight the deep state and here he goes being like nothing was done wrong in the eppstein sweetheart deal what do you who do you think q anon is if you had to speculate as to the who is q anon or what is q anon we we know it's some kind of troll operation at this point you know i mean what do you think it is

Starting point is 01:11:21 do you think there's any truth to it at any point or was it always kind of trolling i mean it seems to be a bit you know it's it's clearly over the top and ridiculous they also you know it's kind of like you know they keep stringing these desperate people along that there's going to be some yeah big event coming and nothing can stop what's happening and everyone's going to jail and just you wait and see and trust the plan and everything like that what do you what do you what do you think this is i think it's a i think it's a us driven intelligent scyop um and i think basically the target of it is to have uh you know a demographic that would normally be most vocal against uh perceived government tyranny uh people on the right gun owners things like that um

Starting point is 01:12:07 basically to have them completely docile sitting there being like yeah we'll just trust the plan and it'll all work out and even in some cases you've had q anon cheer on regime change in iran war with iran uh martial law being declared um things like that when these people before would have opposed those things and it's worth pointing out that really the roadmap for q anon was uh was originally developed by a um an obama advisor named cast sunstein who now is advising the the world health organization about its vaccine global vaccine agenda uh for covet nineteen but cast sunstein during the obama administration he wrote about the need to infuse for the government to infiltrate conspiracy movements in order to reverse the uh general trend of conspiracy

Starting point is 01:12:51 movements fostering a distrust in the government and to instead foster a love and trust of government so then you have q anon pop up and it's oh we love trump we love the president we love john bolton we love sessions and all of these people who were obvious establishment swamp monsters to use you know trump vernacular or whatever um you know put all your faith and people like that when john bolton is like the most insane that you know like crazy neocon guy you're gonna put his your trust in him that he's gonna end the wars you know yeah i just it's so amazing to watch these guys even after you know this we have this election and you know they're still up there going trust the plan don't worry about it i mean it seems

Starting point is 01:13:30 just like a grift i mean it's clearly a grift yeah but so here's the thing with q anon too q anon was basically designed to be a giant straw man where everything that is uh bad now they're saying all these conspiracies that are inconvenient right now we're merging with q anon and that includes people like robert f kennedy jr and children's health defense which are critics of of the pharmaceutical industry and the vaccine industry in general you know there's a washington post coming out saying that they're merging with q anon with no actual basis but they write a whole article about how uh people that um you know promote vaccine hesitancy like robert f kennedy jr are national security threats and you had the fbi come out last year saying q anon is a domestic

Starting point is 01:14:16 terror threat and all of this stuff and now they're trying to link people that are critical of the pharmaceutical industry right so q anon's alarming they're treating enemies of corporations like enemies of the state q anon's a great whipping boy for a lot of people that just want to get inconvenient questions about certain government policies and certain people or epstein or epstein or any of that stuff what do you think uh is going to happen with the new coronavirus lockdowns which are certainly on their way um yeah i think it's going to be really not good um you know all we have to do is just really look at a lot of uh you know the biden transition team i guess you could say in what what they plan to do with corona virus and also the fact that biden's transition team has

Starting point is 01:15:02 adopted the the phrase build back better which we've also seen used uh in canada and the uk and all of these places which come straight from the world economic forum and this whole push for a fourth industrial revolution these lockdowns what they end up doing is forcing the closure of small businesses and medium-sized businesses um giving the vast majority of what was once their business to giant corporations like amazon for example and in furthering this push of buying everything online uh having shop have everything be either mobile app based um or or internet based and sort of promoting more of this contactless humanless uh you know uh technology based society um that's basically what a lot of these lockdowns have ended up uh engendering and also creating a very um you

Starting point is 01:15:48 know uh impoverished population really exacerbating a lot of economic issues that existed before uh coronavirus but i mean it's just absolutely outrageous that you had supposed coronavirus relief bills past the beginning of this year and they were given to hedge funds like black rock to throw that money around and a lot of these loans that were supposed to be for small businesses and it actually go to small businesses and so you know we're at a point where we're gonna have millions of americans be evicted soon if there isn't some sort of relief bill passed and nothing appears to be happening on that front and that is really um really alarming and the fact that politicians on in neither party you're really talking about these issues um is is is just very

Starting point is 01:16:32 disconcerting and um you know i'm really honestly worried um about what's going to go down in the united states in the next few months what what do you think about because they've been oh sorry well i was just going to say about these evictions that are coming uh and the looming crisis that people have in terms of um rent what has there been anything that you've picked up on in terms of like is there any plan to whether it's a nefarious or not is there any plan to deal with that because that's a common catastrophe right well uh what's interesting to me is that some silicon valley billionaires have been uh basically promoting this this plan where they're going to have a new home set up for the homeless but they're going to be smart homes right and they're going to and you

Starting point is 01:17:19 have a lot of these same silicon valley billionaires like jack dorsi of twitter for example uh promoting ubi and things like that and ubi recently has become you know a popular progressive policy but it was actually originally proposed by the father of neoliberalism milton freedman himself and it's also promoted by the world economic forum as a way to further the automation of society and basically you know ubi if everything is automated and done by artificial artificial intelligence and you have a ubi well you don't really make much more money than the ubi it's not a universal basic income it's the universal income period it's not a basic income you can't really supplement it with everything with anything if you're unemployed in the eye you're gonna moonlight as an assistant

Starting point is 01:17:59 to a robot yeah it's a tough thing you know i'm i'm i'm i'm i'm i'm not excited about all this i don't know how much i could do about it but i'm certainly not excited about what is coming and it sounds like sooner rather than later um what do you think would be the way to handle the coronavirus would it be to just kind of basically say you know distancing and blah blah what what what what level of scam are we dealing with here it is a real virus people do get sick some of them die but what do we what do we think what would we do what's the way to handle this have other countries done it better what what's the way to kind of handle this without you know getting rid of human beings getting rid of humanity uh well i mean that that's there's a lot of different i'm i'm

Starting point is 01:18:48 probably not like right you know an epidemiologist or an infectious disease expert um or whatever but i mean there's definitely things we've been doing that have not been working and it's worth cleaning out that now right before you know traditional flu season you have the cdc saying quietly saying that they're gonna stop collecting you know influenza death data and basically saying that regular flu deaths are going to be lumped in with covid deaths now um which obviously is going to over you know overly inflate things but beyond that uh something that's been really disconcerting in my opinion is this shift away from talking about deaths and hospitalizations and talking just about cases and if you look at a lot of this these claims that we're facing a

Starting point is 01:19:31 dark winter we have to lock down and all of the stuff it's all just about the number of cases a lot of which can be as symptomatic they're not necessarily people with symptoms that have to be hospitalized and if you look at you know the number of cases compared to hospitalizations and deaths it really doesn't add up in you know i don't really think a second lockdown uh is really justified and you also have to take into consideration too that you know a lot of this these desperate circumstances people are being forced into economically have an impact on people's well-being um and also mental health i mean suicides are going way up too because people can't be with their families they can't socially interact normally uh they're losing jobs a lot of

Starting point is 01:20:11 people are drowning in debt and don't have a way out or they're going to be evicted soon you know a lot of these things are not being taken in into consideration really at all and since we have such a very powerful lobby like the world economic forum really pushing for a lot of these policies because they want to remake and rebuild the great reset as they call it you know they basically need to do a controlled demolition of a lot of different aspects of our society in order to rebuild it build back better they say in a way um final question and so the problem is oh sorry you think no it's okay it's okay we love we love how how knowledgeable you are do you think biden gets inaugurated do you think uh or do you think we just oh we're entering some weird period of

Starting point is 01:20:54 legal challenges and court problems and how long does this go on do you think um i think it's definitely going to go on a while longer um i don't really know what's going to happen in january to be honest there's a lot of different things that are that are going on right now we probably won't have a lot of resolution in terms of the election at least until the electoral college votes in mid december but it could be in january when there's that first session of congress um or even inauguration day itself you know there's a lot of uh there's been speculation that there may be no president elect on inauguration day uh some of these groups that were gaming out different scenarios for chaos for the election well before the election took place like the transition integrity project

Starting point is 01:21:40 had several scenarios that they gamed out and this this isn't these aren't just like anybody right i mean these are like very prominent republicans and very prominent democrats gaming this stuff out together um in in june of this year they had several scenarios where there was no president elect in january and they hinted about maybe the military will have to step in wow and who's doing that and who's who's doing that who's putting these uh models together and who's running these simulations uh well that was the the one i'm talking about there were actually several groups that were doing simulations um but the one i just mentioned was the transition integrity project and in that case the person that was playing joe biden and those scenarios was john pedesta who is hillary

Starting point is 01:22:21 clinton's former campaign manager uh but you had really prominent republicans uh former chairs of the republican national committee like michael steele you've had former uh heads of the department of defense former heads of department of homeland security um the two people that created that um one is rosa brooks and nils gillman they're both very much tied to a lot of these silicon valley billionaires rosa brooks works for the new america foundation which is a think tank that's funded by bill gates and erik schmitt uh reid hoffman and piero midi are all silicon valley billionaires nils gillman is part of the begruin institute which is trying to build a trans national group of experts and politicians and other figures to sort of usher in this fourth industrial

Starting point is 01:23:04 revolution are these simulations you're right are these simulations um are they every four years or is this like a new one the like what if it was a new thing oh nice specific to this election yeah in in june what if we don't have a president they said maybe the military would step in yeah and what's weird is that one of the ladies that founded the lady that co-founded this rosa brooks her research area is the murky line between military and police uh in war zones and things like that and they were basically gaming out scenarios uh where you know the military may have to step in and all of that stuff and what's very alarming is that you know the more chaos that ends up taking place in this post-election period the more the federal government can swoop

Starting point is 01:23:49 in and justify uh maximum order right as the antidote to maximum chaos quick yeah i mean it's it's terrifying quick before you go what is the anthrax story from 2001 because i remember that i remember how absurd it is and i want you to just go into that just while i have you here what is the anthrax story because i remember how absurd and ridiculous that was they all pinned it on one guy and yeah well so uh that's not a easy that's not a quick thing to answer right and it's actually really important uh to go over it so yeah you have the time a little bit here because one of the things we've been hearing a buzzword we've been hearing a lot lately is dark winter right right it's going to be a dark winter darkest winter and all of that well in june 2001 there was a

Starting point is 01:24:38 bioterror simulation by what is now the johns hopkins center for health security which also did event 201 last year and things like that and it was called dark winter and it included former cia directors former fbi directors and a lot of other prominent national security officials um and predicted a lot of things that would later come to take place of just a couple months later during the anthrax attacks including anthrax being sent through the mail that anthrax letters would be received by members of the media um and also the initial narrative of the bioterror attack itself which was that saddam hussein was working with al qaeda to enact bioterror a bioterror attack on the us this was all gained out in june 2001 and then the anthrax attacks are revealed to the public

Starting point is 01:25:23 in october 2001 and that was the initial narrative that it was going to that it was a anthrax from iraq um and that al qaeda had been involved in in all of this stuff uh of course it later was revealed that the anthrax using the attacks was a a strain exclusive to the us military and had to have come from either a us military lab or a us military contractor so the whole narrative that it must have been iraq and al qaeda eventually started to fall apart but a lot of people that had been involved in dark winter uh tried to run with that narrative for as long as possible and what's also important is that in the period between september 11th and when the anthrax attacks actually took place a lot of these people that had been involved in dark winter like jerome

Starting point is 01:26:03 howe for example uh had a parent for knowledge that anthrax was going to take place so you have for example um jerome howe on the day of 9 11 telling people that they need to start taking an antibiotic to prevent anthrax infection this was going on at dick chainie's office in in particular and then just a couple days after 9 11 dick chainie was personally briefed by the people that created the dark winter exercise about dark winter um and all of this stuff and then you have a bunch of the project for a new american century think tank neocons of which dick chainie and donald rumsfeld were members going on national media saying anthrax talking about anthrax constantly you also had a member of the media that was at dark winter judith miller being involved

Starting point is 01:26:49 in writing several articles uh between september 11th and when the anthrax attacks took place talking about how uh talking about anthrax and bioteria al qaeda and anthrax and all of this stuff sort of seeding this narrative and those attacks end up uh taking place and um what's really crazy too about anthrax is the fbi investigation itself which was called a marathrax um it took them almost a decade to officially close that case it's been huge it was hugely criticized not just by people at the national academy of sciences but also by one of the lead investigators of the investigation for the fbi itself their lead investigator richard lambert actually ended up filing a whistleblower lawsuit saying that the fbi's investigation into the anthrax attacks was a giant cover-up and that's

Starting point is 01:27:33 from the guy that was investigating it for the fbi itself but they pinned it on bruce ivans before they could take it to trial bruce ivans committed suicide even though he was under 24 seven uh fbi surveillance uh and so they didn't actually have to prove their case against him in court because he conveniently dies right before they take it to trial and uh you know really i would argue the anthrax attacks remain unsolved but if you actually look into some of the companies uh that stood to benefit most from anthrax and what they were doing at the time it's very revealing about some possible motives and that is very alarming and i don't know if you want me to go into this at first time but the company that uh gained the most from the anthrax attacks

Starting point is 01:28:19 which was called bioport at the time they're now called emergent biosolutions they're actually manufacturing the covid-19 vaccine for operation warp speed fun yeah so these anthrax attacks could be they could have been just like a fall false flag to like let's get us into iraq quicker let's start tying the narrative destruction thing right so you had the big event of 9 11 but then it was a lot of the anthrax sphere that uh conditioned people to think oh the terrorism in the u.s is now going to be a way of life yeah bioterrorism yeah it wasn't enough 9 11 we needed the bioterrorism angle i remember time magazine the the sarin gas you know the the japan the photos like they were really pushing that narrative hard

Starting point is 01:29:10 and the anthrax right and a lot of these very prominent people involved with the cover up of the anthrax attacks and in very shady positions and the lead up to those attacks are also very involved in covid-19 response right now right one of them is the guy that uh was also very intimately involved in the dark winter exercise his name is robert cadlich uh he's currently the assistant secretary for preparedness and response at hhs and managing covid-19 response on behalf of hhs and he's the guy that gave the covid-19 vaccine a complete uh liability uh anyone that administers or manufactures that vaccine can't be liable in emergent biosolutions the company i mentioned earlier he used to be a lobbyist for them uh and has been just involved in a lot of

Starting point is 01:29:54 really crazy stuff over the the past couple years basically um you know huge conflicts of interest with that particular company which has very shady ties to the 2001 anthrax attacks how is the country that you're in doing with covid-19 uh it's a mess well i mean chile's a us client state so i mean it's basically following a similar uh playbook but it's it's a lot more draconian than even what's going on in the us and that's because after the um 1973 coup um backed by the cia and henry kissinger that installed pinochet the pinochet dictatorship in chile it's basically been used as a laboratory uh by the us power structure for different things whether it's neoliberalism for example was essentially born in chile they say because

Starting point is 01:30:37 they used it as a giant laboratory for that um but also i would argue some of the more draconian a covid-19 responses uh that we may see in the next couple of weeks in different states in the us um you know had they've been piloting some of that out here so since march for example there's been curfews in chile uh they have a five phase uh lockdown system where they constantly move cities back into lockdown uh based on you know faulty data i would argue because the the minister of health admitted that he was making up numbers uh not that long ago uh after he resigned he was pretty blatant about it because you know uh there's no accountability really in chile like the us but i would argue would you ever would you ever come back to america to get

Starting point is 01:31:21 assassinated um i'd have to think about it i don't know i mean i have a toddler too so i mean just even the idea of getting on a plane with uh a little kid and have to make her wear a mask the whole time for an overnight flight i i i doesn't really it's a little but you gotta go on a book tour if you finish your epstein book you gotta go on a book tour well if america's still left i'll think about it we'll see if we if america's not left i don't think chile will be left either but who knows maybe you got maybe he's right winnie webb thank you so much you're always great we always appreciate you coming on um you know you're you're you're you're you're really a thought provoking great writer any pieces you're working on now that are coming out you want to tease anything

Starting point is 01:32:09 uh sure yeah i'm gonna have some reports uh coming out next week about operation warp speed which is something a lot of people have declined to report on because it's controversial but it's worth pointing out that this is supposed to be the official covid-19 vaccination program for the u.s government it's being run by the military top fda officials are barred from attending meetings even sitting in on meetings about it let alone participating just pretty insane uh you also have dhs the nsa and the fbi are part of operation warp speed google oracle palantir are part of this thing uh it's being led by a uh a former vice president for glaxosmith kline whose big obsession is bioelectronic medicine uh there's definitely a lot of red flags about it

Starting point is 01:32:52 but specifically my article um next next week is going to be about palantir's role in it and how they're planning not to just take the first vaccine that's approved and make that the vaccine for everyone they're planning to uh all six of the vaccine candidates they're assuming will be approved and they're going to assign each one to a different critical population which seems a little weird given past uh vaccination campaigns that the u.s government has sponsored um and what's really alarming as i mentioned earlier you know google's part of operation warp speed but they also control youtube and they put out this policy recently where if you ask questions about operation warp speed or covid-19 vaccines in general which by the way you're all using the ones in operation

Starting point is 01:33:34 warp speed anyway are all using uh vaccine technology that's never been licensed or taken to market before so if you have concerns about it being rushed or they're not being enough safety trials and things like that google can uh deplatform you on youtube now i would argue that's a big conflict of interest so unfortunately because of that a lot of people and independent media even because you know a lot of their business models might depend on monetization on youtube and stuff aren't talking about this thing but you know i mean it's a big uh they're planning to inject it into you know give it to 300 million americans by january 2021 so it's definitely something they can have big implications so um january 2021 you mean a year from now no no no in january this

Starting point is 01:34:14 january in a couple months in a couple of months they plan to get get get get everybody vaccinated well most everybody 300 million i think the population's slightly higher but yeah it's definitely concerning especially considering that we have the phyzer vaccine is supposed to be the first one that's going to be approved and one of the top people at the FDA the head for the center for uh drug evaluation and research is a former phyzer vice president for product safety that covered up the ties of a phyzer product zoloft to birth defects and phyzer tried to keep her from uh testifying under oath about that and so now she's one of the people that's going to be rubber stamping phyzers at COVID-19 vaccine that they've already started producing hundreds and

Starting point is 01:34:56 thousands of doses for before it's even approved and have sold doses uh to different governments around the world it's very funny it's like we can we can all we can all uh you know the sacler family is like the approved there's always an approved it's like made off you know made off to like you could you could say made off to the scumbag but don't talk about anyone else so the sacler family is like they're bad they made oxycon but every other pharmaceutical company it's like they're great they're just a benevolent force of good and they just want to help out and they want to medicate all your kids and I mean Pfizer has paid billions of dollars and fines over the years for like illegal marketing promoting their products for experimental off-label uses uh they did an illegal

Starting point is 01:35:37 drug experimentation trial uh in Nigeria that killed 11 kids and then tried to bribe Nigerian officials to cover it up and all we heard about when they had their uh their self-reported results saying that it's not their vaccine's 90 effective just pure positive press I mean no one's asking questions of these pharmaceutical giants that have been given billions of dollars uh to develop these vaccines as as they choose with experimental technologies uh like mRNA and DNA vaccines that have very limited safety profiles and humans they skipped animal trials for these um and the fact that we can't ask questions about these um you know these companies track records when you know pharmaceutical companies have never been held accountable for a lot of their horrible crimes

Starting point is 01:36:21 just like most other corporations in the US so the fact that we you know the answer would be to have more transparency but the operation warp speed is insanely secretive they didn't even want to release the contracts with vaccine companies um but they had to get letters from people in congress and things like that to do so um and you know uh they ended up releasing them and they were mostly uh redacted and we're having you know groups like Palantir deciding who gets what vaccine uh Palantir was basically started by the CIA I mean that doesn't really uh make me feel any better you know what I mean and so the fact they want to censor people uh for asking questions about it instead of answering those questions in good faith or maybe not barring top FDA officials

Starting point is 01:37:07 from even sitting in in their meetings uh you know I mean maybe that would be the answer because this is something would be made for Americans in peacetime why is the military running it why isn't the cdc and fda running it uh it's completely dominated by the military the leadership of this thing you know all good questions all terrifying questions and and all the answers that you we probably don't even want to know the answers to but we need to know the answers to them Whitney Webb go to her patreon at Whitney Webb mpn go to her rockfin channel which is a youtube alternative also go find her work on uh last american vagabond uh yeah I a lot of my warp speed reporting uh has been published there so you can still find some of my work on there go find her

Starting point is 01:37:50 stuff and then buy her book when it comes out I don't know when you're planning on putting that out or uh next june it comes out yeah well this is uh as always a lot of fun a lot of reasons not to sleep and uh you know by 2030 everybody you won't own anything you won't have a car you won't have any freedom you won't have any choice but apparently life will be great according to the world economic forum according to the billionaires of the world economic forum yeah well you won't own anything but the billionaires will own everything they'll own it all and you'll read it from them they'll own it all the only thing you'll own is your your little vaccine chip that's the only thing you'll own Whitney Webb thank you for coming on I appreciate it you're the best

Starting point is 01:38:33 thanks anytime Tim thank you

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