The Tim Dillon Show - 277 - The New American Dream

Starting point is 00:00:00 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Tim Dillon Show special episode here from the Gas Digital Network where everything started for this show, this major massive media operation, started here in the bowels of the East Village at the Gas Digital studio under the tutelage of Louis Gomez, a major media figure, like Robert Maxwell, Gislaine Maxwell's father, was a media mogul, Louis Gomez, media mogul. Under his tutelage, I started the Tim Dillon Show massive media operation, couldn't glamor it, as many have referred to it, and I can't run away from that anymore. People have accused me of being a powerful figure in the media and I

Starting point is 00:00:53 cannot run away from that anymore. It is facts are facts. I'm kidding, of course, am I? Because I got into a skirmish and I didn't even mean to do this. I tweet all day every day and my tweets anger people to varying degrees and I was with Ben and we were driving back from Rochester, New York and we were going to New York City. I didn't want to fly because it dries out my throat, even though my throat still sounds bad. Imagine how much worse it would have sounded had I flown. So it's a six-hour drive and that's a lot of keyboard time, a lot of finger time for Twitter, including an hour stop at the Cheesecake Factory. Where

Starting point is 00:01:48 do you remember? I don't know the name of that town. Oh, it was outside Syracuse. Yeah, and Cheesecake Factory outside of Syracuse, New York. There was out of a lot of things. There were out of a lot of things, but the things we had were good. The cheese steak, the cheese burger, egg rolls, the quesadillas, one of the best in the industry. And I tweeted about the sketch that SNL did where P. Davidson played Joe Rogan and somebody else played Big Bird. Kyle Mooney. Okay. And it was about, it's again, just kind of recycling this hack premise that Joe Rogan took horse medication for COVID, Iver Mectin, which isn't true. It's like a widely

Starting point is 00:02:42 discredited thing, right? It's like a CNN talking point, like DNC talking point. It's weird that you wouldn't go further with it. We've made fun of Joe. We've made fun of Iver Mectin. There's a lot to make fun of with podcasts, whatever. Alternative treatments. There's tons of things you can do. The sketch was admittedly pretty lazy. And I think most people knew that. And I tweeted that. I said that. I said that the show now is kind of lazy mediocre hacks. Not every sketch, not everything they do. Certainly not everybody that works there. But you know, when they go political, they, they, it's low hanging fruit. They're not

Starting point is 00:03:31 trying to do anything that makes you go, wow. I mean, this is a show that did the molar days of Christmas on the first day of Christmas Bob Mueller gave to me. This is not, it's a propaganda arm, which is okay, right? You're allowed to be that. Comedy show should have a point of view and I don't have to agree with it. But when it's so blatantly state propaganda, and it's so blatantly lazy, and, and it's not executed well at all, people can criticize it. Like that's, you know, something that's going to happen. And I criticize it. And then one of the writers, Michael Che, who I'd never had, we'd never had a negative interaction ever in our

Starting point is 00:04:16 lives, you know, came at me and was basically like Tim Dylan's not what you think he is. He's a sweet, humble guy, which I agree with. And then he goes, he tried stand up and got nowhere and became a media personality because it's much easier because it became a media personality because it's much easier. Which again, is he's entitled to his opinion, right? I have a platform and an opinion and people care about what I say. That tweet got like 40,000 favorites and a bunch of retweets. So I listen, you know, I don't even know what the media is, but I guess anyone with a platform and an opinions in the media, it's not harder

Starting point is 00:05:01 to be in the media. I mean, just let's say I am in the media. Let me take that premise. I don't know that I agree with that. He works for NBC. You would think if anyone was in the media, it's me and you here. I have nobody behind me at all. Except Louis, maybe because he owns the studio. But this idea that I'm a major media figure is kind of funny. But again, am I known from the podcast? Sure. Is he known from SNL? Yes. Neither of us really are like Sebastian Maniscalco, who's known from stand up. Now we both do stand up, but and we're good at it. I think he's funny and I don't know what he thinks I am, but we sell thousands of

Starting point is 00:05:44 tickets all over the world, which he's not doing. But that's OK. Doesn't mean anything. It just means that there's people that enjoy my stand up. And that's what it is. Now, maybe those people don't matter that maybe they're all Nazis. Who knows? That's possible. It's possible that everyone who's succeeding is a Nazi and all of their fan bases are Nazis. And that's the only reason that anyone is successful at all. Perhaps Doja Cat is a Nazi and everyone that buys tickets to her shows are Nazis. If you have a live event and it's sold over 70 percent of tickets, it's very possible. Everyone there loves Hitler, I guess. I don't know.

Starting point is 00:06:27 That seems to be the running explanation for why anyone is successful at anything. And that was his tweet. And then I think I tweeted back, you know, some some things that I felt were true that are true. And again, I don't even especially dislike Michael Che. I think he's smart in the sense that he's, you know, usually on the right side of issues. I think he understands comedy. He defends comedy a lot. He gets into arguments with some of the same people that I would get in an argument with. But, you know, I don't know where that came from. I can only imagine that, you know, he knows that that sketch wasn't

Starting point is 00:07:16 great. What I said kind of got under his skin. Again, not meant to. Just an observation I was making. And he got mad at that and was like, Tim Dills, not what you think. He's not some truth teller. I don't know what even he thinks people think I am. The sketch wasn't good. So if pointing out the sketch was good, you know, makes me, I mean, then everybody, whatever, every, I mean, you got to do that for everyone that saw the sketch. They're not what you think they are. This random guy is not what you think he is. There are people that are fans of us and other one. That's not good. And then I just kind of said, I

Starting point is 00:08:00 said, listen, the reality is I sell more tickets than Che ever has. He's not allowed to be on Twitter because of his job, which is true. So I didn't tag him or anything. And then I said, I built something on my own that he never could. It is of my belief that he probably could not have. I don't know. Maybe he could have. And then I said, you know, he's done well for a, wait, what did I say? He said Che has done well for a drunk who can barely read, but his show sucks and he knows it. And that's true. And those are, you know, and that's great. And I again, he's going to say I'm not a comedian. I'm going to say

Starting point is 00:08:33 things about him. It's kind of a petty, silly thing. But at the end of the day, it all comes down to the fact that I angered some people over there or maybe just him with a tweet that was a pretty innocuous observation compared to other things that I've said. And hey, this idea that people that are succeeding on the internet are not comedians is an idea that is meant to justify the lack of success people are having in mainstream spaces. So when nobody on SNL or very few people on SNL can sell any tickets, excite anybody, they're given shows, they're given budgets to do sketch shows that nobody watches. None of the none of

Starting point is 00:09:29 the sketches go viral as many of our things have gone viral. They're not really a voice in the conversation that matters other than when they do the big show every Saturday night, and they all come together and they make some noise. And usually the noise of people going, God, this is bad. That's usually why it gets any attention. But individually, that show is really not launching people into orbit anymore the way that it used to. And I've defended the show. It's probably the singular most important comedy platform in America in terms of the amount of talented people that have come out of that show to go into film and

Starting point is 00:10:08 movies that have defined really what comedy is in the 20th century. And I've laughed at things they've done. I mean, a week ago, last week, right? I don't I don't think that we go more into this on the Patreon with Ray, just because it just happened coming out Thursday. Yeah, coming out Thursday. But it's never my intent to be antagonistic to people. Now, I do attack them weekly, viciously. Truly. And it isn't my intent to be antagonistic. It's my intent to help. It's my intent to help truly. And I mean, you may not believe that, but I I would like the show to be better. I don't want to be on the show. I don't need their

Starting point is 00:10:55 money. I'm okay. What I would like is to help. I want it to be better. It is. It is some of the things are are good. Some of them could get better. I am just saying, Hey, this is what it is from one member of the media to another member of the media, Michael J. We're all members of the media, buddy. I don't know what you're talking about. Stand up comedy. Huh? It's the media. Go ask a 15 year old girl. Hey, what's your favorite stand up? They'll say Cody co because Cody's a famous guy on the internet. The only things people really care about now are things that they can share with other people. And if you don't think my podcast

Starting point is 00:11:37 is funny or you know, there are people that say, I love your stand up. There's people that say, I love the podcast. There's people that love both. There's people that go, I don't like stand up, but your podcast makes me laugh. Um, drawing lines around one kind of funny is weird to me. I've never looked at a writer and went, yeah, like David Sedaris writes a lot of funny books. I've never been like, yeah, but what are your views like? You don't do shit on Instagram. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter to me. He's funny. There are people that are funny, right? Um, but that's that's really all I have to say

Starting point is 00:12:11 about that. I ironically, uh, uh, I'm going to start submitting packets for SNL just for fun to see if, uh, they'll hire me. I'm actually going to call my agent and ask him if there's a shot. Now they never do this, but is there a chance that they would hire me in the middle of the season? Rarely done. Maybe never done. I don't know. Um, as a consultant and they could kind of bring me in to the writer's room and we could, uh, hash it out. The chances of that happening are very low and I know that. Um, but again, you know, not everyone's going to like you in this, right? And I, and that's fine. Um, and, uh, not

Starting point is 00:13:00 everybody's going to value the, the media empire that we've built here, the very wide reaching, influential media empire. It's a weird, it's a weird way to insult somebody by going like, they're a, they're a media figure. I'm like, I thank you. I don't think so, but I appreciate it. Um, the, the new movement now that I got to take these, these headphones are like, this is, I love this, but this is real gas, digital stuff. The headphones are kind of in and out. Let's try them again. Okay. They're better now. Okay. Lewis likes to keep everybody on their toes here. There's only, there's only, there's some real

Starting point is 00:13:45 talent on the network for sure. Uh, but then there's always, I still call Lewis all the time ago. There's a lot of shows have to go. I, cause I still keep track of everything, you know, Ralph now is just running like 12 miles a day and no one cares. All Ralph does, Ralph is a co-owner of gas, digital. All Ralph will do is like update everybody's like, I ran eight miles today, midtown, Ralph, who gives a fuck? Like we get it. You lost weight and you can run. We appreciate that. Just finished nine miles. I ran down by the Brooklyn Navy yard. Hey, Ralph, cut it out. I just made roast chicken in an air fryer and now I'm going to run.

Starting point is 00:14:28 We, hey, we get it. Good. Maybe he had a health scare. I don't know. Did Ralph have a health scare? Was that what this was about, Shannon? No, he just gained a bunch of weight and then during the pandemic started running smart because he's really made a change now. And, uh, it'd be funny if he got hit by a car jogging, just healthy, just with the taste of Brussels sprouts still in his mouth. Um, yeah. So I wanted to talk about this article because I thought this was a very interesting article. This is a movement that I should know more about and I don't know more about it. And it's called the anti-work movement. And this

Starting point is 00:15:10 is a movement of people who are leaving the workforce for good, not temporarily, not because they're, you know, uh, you know, taking a moment to regroup. These are people that are out. They're done. They don't want to come back. And that's kind of interesting, uh, that they've had that epiphany over the last 12 months and they've decided that it's not a specific job. They don't like it's any job. It's, they don't want to do anything. And there's part of me that respects that. I can really kind of get into that. But then what do you do on like day three of that? It's, you know, day one and two were all

Starting point is 00:15:52 planned out. And then day three, you start going, wait a minute. A lot of humans get self worth from their job. I know that that is a terribly controversial thing to say now. Um, and I know that people think that if humans were freed from the need of having to work, then they would just be beautiful magical creatures that would, you know, during the pandemic, everybody was like, well, if people didn't have to work, they would go out and start community gardens and they would do this and do that. And okay, during the pandemic, everybody was off. I didn't see any community gardens. I didn't really

Starting point is 00:16:30 see anyone planting anything. And I'm not saying people should work in these shitty conditions and not get paid and get ripped off, which is what's happening. And I'm not saying you should have this massive chasm between certain people that work and other people that work in terms of how much they get paid. But the idea that you could get rid of all work is interesting to me. I don't want to discount it immediately, but I know a lot of people that don't work and aren't doing well. And I don't mean just financially. I mean, in every conceivable way, friends of mine that

Starting point is 00:17:03 don't work are on the internet all the time, way too much, almost as much as me and it's my job. They don't seem happier. They're not in better relationships because they don't work. They don't have better relationships with their family. They're certainly not planting any community gardens. They're not doing much in their community at all. Friends I know that don't work kind of become angry, paranoid people that spend all their time online figuring out why it is that they feel the way that they do. This is my own personal experience. In the same way that friends of mine that work

Starting point is 00:17:42 too much are also kind of anxiety ridden, miserable people. So there's a balance. But let's talk about this article. It's interesting. There's a guy that moved. It's from a business insider. That's the rag that just ran that hit piece on Davey Portnoy and they were going to run a hit piece on me and one comic this kid was an open mic comedian who quit then went to work for business insider interviewed me. I was down in Florida. He called me. I spoke to him for an hour. You know, you know, the question, you know, Alex Jones and you did a podcast together. What was that about? What was it

Starting point is 00:18:29 like? You say some things that anger people. What do you do? What is it about? And I sat there in a parking lot smoking cigarettes suffering through this interview because nobody asks any good questions. Where are you from? Were you always a contrarian? Did you know Alex Jones when you were a baby? They're the worst questions ever because journalists are stupid. They're not and they're not journalists. Journalists are people who have white hair and sit in libraries and look at microfiche and they try to solve the Kennedy assassination. Shannon knows we've had them on the show. They have no money. No one buys their

Starting point is 00:19:19 books. No one cares. And they die alone and unfulfilled. Those are journalists or they go to like a war torn country. They run around that country. People shoot at them. They get some guy to give them some story at a cafe. They win a Pulitzer Prize. A year later, no one cares. They get diagnosed with cancer because they were too close to like live ammunition and they die alone and unfulfill. This is what journalists are. And then you have stenographers meaning that they just write down things the government wants them to say. Those people have big houses. They're on TV a lot. They write books that are always put

Starting point is 00:20:00 out there. They're in the front of the bookstore and it's like it's just a picture of you know God only knows you know Winston Churchill or FDR and they're like they wrote a history of him which someone else wrote. They just kind of grabbed it. It's ghost written. They said the greatest generation you know Tom Broker any of those guys and their books are pushed because they don't make any trouble. They don't cause any problems and they're you know and they lie you know like Brian Williams the guy who just made things up and he lies and they all lie because no one catches them and lying is like a drug. You get

Starting point is 00:20:35 intoxicated with doing it if nobody catches you and that's so those are the class of journalists. And then you have these like New York media types you like write for these glorified blogs and they don't have any money and they eat ramen and they live on the floor and they have a degree from like Syracuse University or some other embarrassing school. Oh the new school of journalism is good who cares or Columbia which is an Ivy or whatever and they're at these people are so mad that they don't have talent. They're so and so they love other people that don't have talent. So they love unfunny comedians. They love it and

Starting point is 00:21:15 they write stories like who's the next biatch because they have no talent. They go where can I go to find people that like me are incredibly deficient in any noticeable skill and they find them and they go these are 25 comedians that you're going to know and they get in this little group of people and no one cares and they don't have any money and they get angry at people like Dave Portnoy because he's again has a media operation and he's taking eyeballs away from people like CNN from a ESPN and bigger platforms that are losing eyeballs to barstool sports in the same way that our patrons like the number two in

Starting point is 00:22:00 America. There are people that lose eyeballs and ears or whatever to us because they enjoy this show. So the New York media types and it's not oh and I don't mean Jews and I don't so don't tweet at me and and because there's a lot of Christians doing this to shamefully and probably a few Scientist I'm kidding the Scientologist or they figured it out. But the New York media because New York is the media capital of the world these people are always they always have it out for people like Rogan and because these guys are threat independent operations are threats. They're a big threat. That's why I don't

Starting point is 00:22:37 run away from the media. You can call me media all day. I don't really care. I think it's a funny media. If I am media you just also have to be media sitting at a desk with a suit on working for NBC and the Saudi Royal Family. You also have to be considered media. If I'm media you're media. We're all media baby. So this comic calls me what's it like to be. Yeah. And then I answer all the questions then I forget about it completely because I don't care about it and Business Insiders is you know is a rag but we're going to talk about their anti work article but a lot of people have this article the Guardian

Starting point is 00:23:17 whatever this is the one that caught my eye it's a rag and they write inflammatory stuff like this article is kind of like no one's there's a movement because this is meant to piss off people that are working. They write an article like this you're like nobody's working anymore. You are sucker. And Dave Portnoy is going to spit in your daughter's mouth tomorrow. Dave Portnoy is choking your daughter today. How does that make you feel. You got a wife. Well Dave Portnoy is choking her. He's choking women in Nantucket. He's running around Nantucket grabbing every woman he sees at the farmers market and spitting

Starting point is 00:23:52 down the throat. I'm true. Doesn't seem to be what's happening. OK. I did go to Barstil Sports and he spit in my mouth. It was a bit. I think it was a joke. I don't know. He spit my mouth and said pig and then walked away. It was jarring but not entirely unexpected and it was somewhat enjoyable. He has kind of proven they were after him. This comic calls me the day the Portnoy stuff breaks and he goes hey I quit Insider because they wouldn't run a hit piece on you. I don't know if you've wondered why the piece has never come out. And I said I haven't wondered that because I don't care. I don't really know who you

Starting point is 00:24:29 are. And I was like the eating sushi parked in a handicapped spot outside of Bristol Farms. And I was more concerned with that. And he goes well it didn't come out because they wanted me to run a hit piece on you. And I said on me they want to run a hit piece on me. And yes they wanted to run a hit piece on me and say I was some reactionary right wing lunatic nut job. You know the way these people operate. So I'm not too shocked by what happened to Dave. And what will happen to anyone. If you have an opinion that runs counter. When everybody says that Covington kids should be doxxed and you go hold on the facts are that the

Starting point is 00:25:13 kids are standing there. They're getting yelled at by black Israelites. A guy walks up to them starts beating your drum in his face. The kid just smiles. It's a pretty tame reaction. Getting in a teenager's face. I can think of a lot of people that would have had a crazier reaction. The kid just stand there and smiled. And for that the entire US media wanted to ruin the kids life to make a point. OK. Now the written out things a little more complicated. But it's still clear that it was a self defense that he reasonably believed that his life was threatened. That doesn't mean he should have been there with an error 15 17

Starting point is 00:25:49 year olds that have no training should not be patrolling the streets where they are 15. His mother is a psychopath. My mother would not drop me off at the mall. If she was busy this woman dropped her son off at a riot with a gun and was like good luck son. That is not good parenting. It's poor parenting and the kids a confused kid who wants to be a good kid. Whatever that means in his head. By the way people to join gangs want to be good people. People want to be good. They want to be. They want to have you know they want to be like important and they want to serve a function. And that's why people join all kinds of groups.

Starting point is 00:26:31 And that's why he said I'm going to patrol the streets with these other Yahoos. And this is why you can't have chaos and political violence in the streets all the time. And again he's a media figure. This is media that he's doing. It's common sense to say we shouldn't have people running around in the streets killing each other. That is my controversial opinion of the week that we shouldn't. Now people can get angry. No it's more complicated than that. You're a psychopath. How dare you say that. I'm saying that no matter the reason I don't believe the best course of action is to have people in the

Starting point is 00:27:12 streets killing each other and burning things down and writing there's a better way to do it. It's called civilization. It's a better way to do it. OK. That's a dog whistle for white supremacy. Civilization. How dare you say it. But written houses and not and please and I you know we talk about this on the Patreon but like the last thing I need is him getting off and then three days later on Twitter tweeting at me and taking my side in the Michael Chay thing. Kyle please do not please. I'm asking you for me selfishly take his side please take his side if you're going to take a side and it's over there

Starting point is 00:27:56 are no there are no sides but you know if you have an opinion that runs counter to what people want the opinion people want you to have people just are going to get angry at you upset call your names whatever. So the anti work article is interesting. This is from insider. Great publication. And what does this say. What are people doing here. It says inside the rise of anti work a worker strike that wants to turn the labor shortage into a new American dream. This is like the article that Bloomberg ran that said hey the stores don't have any stuff in them. Maybe that's good. And you know Bloomberg the guy

Starting point is 00:28:42 who runs Bloomberg is Mike Bloomberg billionaire. Look up Mike Bloomberg's net worth. It's like 70 billion dollars or more. This is the guy that ran for president 59 billion. Wow. Well he's in the middle class. I forgot 59 billion dollars. He runs the publication and Bloomberg is saying they have this article. You should find the article where it's basically like hey Americans may need to live like Europeans and that's pretty damn cool. Maybe that's not the worst thing that you go to the store and the shelves are half full. Yes supply chain shortages are constraining you as consumers endless appetite for

Starting point is 00:29:22 buying whatever they want whenever they want. It's about time. You're like eggs the endless appetite for things. After all Americans haven't always acted like this. We've entered an age of overabundance. We consume much more than we used to in more than other countries. So they're kind of shaming us into well here's the deal. We absolutely consume too much to fat. We eat too much. The houses are too big. Everything's too big. But the way to fight that probably is some type of spiritual renaissance where people realize that consumption in and of itself is ultimately empty and hollow and then they need to involve

Starting point is 00:30:02 themselves in more meaningful activities where they can get more out of life. That's the hard way to do it and the sustainable way. Just walking into a store and not having things doesn't seem like a real people are still going to consume just whatever they can find. These are also the people who go fat is great. You eat whatever you want whenever you want it. And then they're like maybe Americans should start living like Europeans. Well you know what that means. Not being fat slobs. But I thought that was good. Fatness is good. It's not unhealthy. Don't think it. Being 500 pounds is healthy and great and

Starting point is 00:30:45 beautiful. And everybody will how do you get to be 500 pounds. Consuming shit. So if you say well we should stop consuming. What do you mean by that. Do you mean Americans should stop buying treadmills. No you mean that people should like hey how about one loaf of bread for the week for the family. That's kind of how I read it. You don't need all the new gadgets and gizmos. A lot of them food related. But it's weird to get this article from Bloomberg. It's weird of a bunch of billionaires go yeah the stores are bare. The prices of gas is up. So just drive less. Hey you can't afford gas. Maybe you should don't go there. That

Starting point is 00:31:30 place you want to go. Why don't you go to. Hey you want to go see your mother. See her less. It's very condescending and strange to tell people that they should adjust their habits when billionaires and people worth hundreds of millions of dollars have only gotten richer. Have only bought more jets. Have only bought more property. Can only do more things. And people that aren't in that bracket can't do anything. And those people are told it's good. They tell people to go on long bike rides rather than just drive. Go on a bike ride with your kids on the highway. Take your children on a bike ride on the side of

Starting point is 00:32:12 the road and go to the grocery store. It's good for you. Maybe you'll all die. And we could stop here in your mouths. Whitney Webb is coming back on to talk about this. The great reset. And I know that a lot of people have dismissed that as a conspiracy and maybe parts of it are. But saying that this is a restructuring the economy is not a conspiracy. It seems pretty damn accurate. Read a paragraph or two of this article about what's going to happen to the world when nobody works. Well this is a new lifestyle. The work free lifestyle is what they call it. Great. A rising movement. I'm excited. I've been living it for

Starting point is 00:32:50 years. So this is how it starts. It says Larry had a vision. Shannon remembers when I used to have a job. I used to come in with a tour bus jacket from giving tours on a double deck or bus. And then I would come do the podcast. Shannon remembers that. And I would come in every day and think I had like a new disease. And I would Google and I burned my mouth. And then I Google like sore mouth. And it would say like you have you know some like you know disease that's only transmitted by the South African baboon spider. And I'd be like fuck because I work does make you lose your mind a little bit. So I'm in the middle here.

Starting point is 00:33:31 I'm not crazy work. But I don't know if we you know maybe we should do something. This is how it begins. It says Larry had a vision after he graduated college. He and his then wife were going to be a power couple. They were going to actualize their American dream. They'd buy a house in the suburbs and go on vacation every two years. That's not a power couple. Larry you dumb fuck. The Clintons are a power couple. Jeffrey and just later power couples. You just wanted to be ordinary regular Americans. See this is my problem with everything. Nobody questions anybody's premises. So immediately we're starting out with a guy who's probably

Starting point is 00:34:06 crazy because he thinks a power couple is a couple that can afford coffee in the suburbs. That is not true. If the article had started Larry when he graduated college wanted to be a power couple. He wanted to grab a woman that he wasn't sexually attracted to get married for money rise through the ranks of the corporate world and then eventually go into politics all the while participating in many nefarious activities including the rape torture and sacrifice of young children in order to build loyal bonds with other members of said class. At that point Larry and his wife would begin to redesign themselves as folksy

Starting point is 00:34:45 nationalists who just cared about America all the while going home and eating the flesh of children in his stew. That would make sense. So what did he want to do. He wanted to work and live in the burbs. Well why wasn't he able to do that. Well he was a maintenance technician in South Carolina. Okay. So the vision of the perfect life eventually shattered. Where's his wife. She's from Colorado. Right. But keep reading. Okay. His in-wife saw through the illusion of work he said and quit to take care of their children and her elderly father. It took him a little longer to get there. Let me scroll down here. So now it says

Starting point is 00:35:22 keep reading when you got laid off from a seasonal job there he moved back to South Carolina to be with his mother. Now he lives simply and a 20 foot trailer in the backyard. What about the kids and a wife. The kids and the wife wife and children are in Colorado right now it seems like. Okay. So what's interesting about this is like you forget he has a wife and kids. Like he's like I just I'm a simple man with simple pleasures and I just go and I want to live with my mother. It makes it sound nice but he left his wife and children. Yes. Yeah he is. And he's choosing to not support his kids. It seems that way. He's choosing to

Starting point is 00:35:57 not support his wife and kids. And this was celebrated as a new movement in work and they're like Gen V has defined this new movement. I was giving the power back to the workers. No it's coping a deadbeat dad. It's not a new movement. It's pretty fucking old. Ask Lewis about it. His dad got stabbed. That's not technically his fault but his mom did smack. But his mom kind of raised him pretty well. For someone that was on heroin she did like a good job. But my point is that being a deadbeat dad is not like a new thing. I read this article trying to dress this up as like this is a new revolutionary balance of power

Starting point is 00:36:33 shift between employer employee. This isn't a guy that unionized his job and got more benefits for people. This is a guy that said I don't like my children wife. I want to go live in a trailer and drink. Yeah it said I doubt he supports them because it says here he says I don't have any expenses. I don't need any money. I can survive without it. Right. I don't have any expenses. Fuck those kids. And they write about this like this is a great new thing. Living in a trailer with your mother is good. The article is written that this is good. This is what they want. Understand who writes these articles. They're dumb.

Starting point is 00:37:08 They're journalists or idiots. But the people that own these publications put all this out for like a reason. They're like it's good to not work. It's good to live in a trailer with your mother. It's great when you go to the grocery store and there's nothing there to eat. Now you're living like a European. Isn't this great. They ran that article in the beginning of the pandemic to go you'll own nothing and you'll be happy. Isn't it great. You have nothing and you live with your mother in a trailer and your family is gone and you don't have any money to give them Christmas presents and fuck Christmas anyway. That's a

Starting point is 00:37:39 capitalist horseshit. You just stay in your trailer and every now and then wander to the grocery store will give you a voucher for food that won't be there anyway. Isn't it good. Now you live like a European and Europeans don't live like that by the way. Europeans work not all of them but like they go to the cafe. They get food. They smoke cigarettes. They have sex. They don't like me too. So if you want to really be European you got to stop with the horseshit. Women in Europe like getting thrown against a wall. That's a fact as long as you have like a nice pasta dinner and everything they enjoyed. France

Starting point is 00:38:13 literally came out and started me to and went no we don't do that here. We like me too. We enjoy it. Cut it out. We like fucking and not working. So in America in this sexless autistic horror culture that we've created the only thing to do literally is work. We have a sexless autistic horrible culture that issues any type of like family or bonds outside of work. So we're telling people don't have families. Don't fuck each other. Don't do anything and also don't work. Well Larry goes I really don't want to work anymore. I don't want to have any meetings. No deadlines. No goals. No quarter no seminar. I don't want none of

Starting point is 00:38:55 that stuff no more. Oh well that sounds lovely. Maybe it's not good that we have a culture where people are just built to work but if you want to start living like Europeans understand that their culture is about family which we don't fucking have. We take our elderly people. We throw them in nursing homes where people beat them. As soon as we're of age we run away from our families. I know I did to get successful. In Europe they live with their families. The family is a thing. The family name matters. People fuck and have children. In America people have one child when they're like 40. The kids are furry. The parents are like

Starting point is 00:39:33 insane. That's not that then you got to work. What are you going to do go home and deal with your furry kid. Your kid is a furry and you in your kids only a furry because you're working so much you don't even know what the hell is going on in their life. So then you got to go back to work. You're like I've already fucked this one up. This one's a furry. Yeah. In Europe they're lazy slothful people that enjoy life because they fuck and eat carbs. Go on for the rest of this. Here's the retort from one moderator of the subreddit. He says a lot of people mistake anti work for being lazy and like nothing ever has to get

Starting point is 00:40:15 done says rock cellist. But the truth of the matter about anti work and everything surrounding it is that obviously things have to get done. But the current structure in which things get done and the way that capital flows as they get done is unfair and should be non existent. Well it's unfair. But the idea of it being non existent is a bit of a stretch. I don't exactly how exactly does that work. It's not exist. Let's just get rid of it in favor of one. Right. What exactly would be what exactly would be the other option. You know. I think it's unfair. And I think there's ways to make it more fair.

Starting point is 00:40:52 There's another person who left their job because they couldn't take out their phone. Yeah. So Cade a Gen Z worker in Kansas is one of the people who turned anti our side. Yeah with a K. He turned to our slash anti work and posted after he quit his job as a service worker. He had been considering quitting for a while but he was pushed over the edge after his boss posted a sign telling workers they couldn't use their phones during shifts. What. What a tyrant. By the way I love these words. He was pushed over the edge because a worker said get off your phone and work like a boss. A boss said get off your phone and work and he's like this

Starting point is 00:41:26 is he thinks it's a grapes of wrath. I mean this is this is insane. I never really because he can't go a whole day without looking at furry porn. He's watching Furry's fuck and the boss is like get get him a coffee or whatever. Cade says I never really see anybody not doing work and on their phone. He added he didn't think management should have the right to take his personal property. So then he started seeing posts from our slash anti work a few months ago and that reading people's accounts of quitting and learning about the ways they're rethinking work factored into his own decision to quit. He's already had

Starting point is 00:42:04 at least one interview for a new job and has a little bit of savings built up to keep him afloat in the meantime. Good for you. Cade. Cade. We stand with Cade says I think it felt like I could be like a bigger part of a movement. I mean this really is a movement to these people. It's a movement. They're a million strong. Yeah. There'll be more than a million strong soon. Nobody will work though. Everybody will be. I just I just love the idea of I love all these articles are all coming out together works bad because by the way work means you have money money means you don't have to listen what the government tells

Starting point is 00:42:38 you to do. That is no good. They don't want that. And if you question anything about the COVID thing now you're treated like you've said hey did the Holocaust really happen. That's the response you get from people. People call me all the time. They go I just got my booster. And I'm like are you taking your mask off. They go no. And I go why. They go well it's not safe. And I go well you just got the booster. And they go yeah but you don't know how long that protection lasts. You could still get it. And you could still get very sick. You could still go to the hospital and go right now. Do you understand how crazy

Starting point is 00:43:13 you sound. They go no. Well how many more boosters will you get. As many as it takes for what. Like there's no end goal seemingly. There's no end goal here. This is the problem. I got vaccinated early on. I was like hey let's do it. Let's go back out who cares. COVID is a Holocaust of fat people. Okay. I'll get vaccinated. I got vaccinated. Then they said put the mask on. The vaccine doesn't do what we wanted it to do. And then they said well we never said that it stopped you from getting it. You did. You did. I have the receipts. You absolutely did. You also said that if you got it it wouldn't even be

Starting point is 00:43:53 symptomatic. It'd be very mild. That is not true either. We have those receipts. Then you said well you won't go to the hospital if you have it in your vaccinated. I know people that have. And now the last thing is well you won't die. Don't you not want to die. It's like the last. By the way this is your parents using everything on you and then finally the last ditch effort of a parent who's like yelling at a kid usually is to go. Some people die. Do you want to die. If I let you borrow the car you're gonna die. And you go what. Do you want to die. You go no. So I'm not saying the vaccine is bad or that you

Starting point is 00:44:39 shouldn't get it. What I'm saying is that I'm confused and by airing these questions in public I have drawn the ire of many. I'm confused as to what the end game is. Why do we have to keep taking a thing that isn't doing what we want and why mandate that people have it and fire people in mass if you can still get it and spread it. If vaccinated people have far less like likelihood to go to the hospital with covid and far and they're far less likely to suffer severe consequences from it then the people that are vaccinated should be protected and not require everyone else to be vaccinated. So it's weird to me but if that is in

Starting point is 00:45:25 the case and people that are vaccinated can still have all of those things happen and it's not really less likely viral load and vaccinated and unvaccinated people is kind of similar an article just came out. I don't understand the rationale for the mandates which are disproportionately affecting black and Hispanic people that don't want to get the vaccine as of the recent numbers. I don't know things may have changed but so I've questioned those two things. I've never said that all vaccines are bad. I never said it was a boarded fetal tissue. I never said you were going to turn be a zombie when the

Starting point is 00:46:00 5G you know but you're treated like that if you ask any of these questions. No you're double vexed you got both. Well I'm fully fully vexed hey you got double shots yeah and I'm and I had the covid so that should you know twice and I'm not saying that like everyone shouldn't get a booster. I'm going what's the plan. I'm just asking questions. Hey what are we when do the masks come off when do kids not wear masks in school. When are we because adults have gotten vaccinated and we're still wearing masks in many situations. So you go well if the kids are vaccinated they won't have to wear masks. Well why do I have to wear a mask.

Starting point is 00:46:38 Shut up. That's why did you storm the Capitol. What. There's something weird and there's something weird in people's eyes right now. It's a little Salem witch trials. It's a little Iraq war 2003. It's a little like don't question what we're doing or you're going to be out. If you question anything we're doing we're going to kill you and that to me is a little scary. And I've just said hey. Leave me be. Let me live. What other articles did you bring up. Just Lane just lanes trial starts today. Now just Lane may be guilty. I don't want to believe that. I don't want to jump to a conclusion.

Starting point is 00:47:30 But it is harder and harder to ignore the mountains of evidence that suggests that just Lane Maxwell and I mean folks it pains me to say this. I don't even want to say it. It pains me to say it. There is evidence that suggests that just Lane Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein were running a child trafficking ring for very wealthy and powerful people and members of the government. I've just started to accept that this may have been what's happening. Also it's possible that Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself that he was killed so that he would not reveal any of the people participating in said trafficking ring. Because by the way what I'm doing now is a joke. This is what the media will do in a few

Starting point is 00:48:28 months. The media will do this. The media will go in what is seeming to be a new development. Evidence is pointing to the fact that Jeffrey and just Lane were running a trafficking ring. And then they're going to have to say because if this is a real trial which it may not be their speculation that Epstein was an asset was an intelligence asset of Israel and the U.S. whatever some hybrid Maxwell's father was a Mossad agent widely known book about it by Seymour Hirsch I believe. And what the media is going to have to do is they'll have to kind of do that with a light touch. They'll be like speculation. It has been said that perhaps this was some type of blackmail up and they they'll have to pretend like they don't know what

Starting point is 00:49:29 any of it means like people are saying this is potentially a blackmail operation that they would compromise these powerful people and videotape them doing things that are heinous and immoral and illegal and then hold that over their head to gain control over them. This is what's being said. We don't we don't have any confirmation of this. We're not but that's what it's the media's job. The media's job is to pretend to be discovering things that you've known for years so that you'll know something for years and then the media goes it's perhaps what you think and you go yeah. But ladies is late. She's complaining about being in jail. She says a rat sits next to her on the turlet and she says that she's watched in the shower by prison guards and had a rat

Starting point is 00:50:30 pet. She had a rat for company. It is strange falling from grace going from where she was to the Brooklyn detention center. You got to think because this is a woman who was literally friends with kings and queens and presidents and she really lived that life. She was the real housewife of human trafficking. Truly. Just a big goblet of white wine pimping out hoes to prime ministers and now she's rotting in a jail cell and she's eating rotten food. They're giving her rotten food. Well she says yeah apple with maggots in it they're leaving the lights on so she hasn't like been in the darkness in like months and well she is used to quite a different mode of living right and it's she's not exactly somebody

Starting point is 00:51:31 who can just make an adjustment which I think is inhumane to have her in a jail cell like this. I think you should put her in a hotel a five star hotel hot coffee marble bathroom heated towels slippers give her the internet let her live a little. She just wants a fair trial. She told the newspaper I'm terrified the overwhelmingly negative coverage will poison my jury pool and affect the outcome of my trial. Well I will be honest that is true. Many people have made their minds up about her already. I can't deny that that is very possible. People hear her name and there's an image that comes into their mind and it is an image of someone who's done the wrong thing. But she'll have a trial and I don't know how fair it'll be. I don't know how much you're

Starting point is 00:52:24 going to let come out. She's not going to roll. People think she's going to roll. She's not going to roll. She knows if she rolls and gets out it's all over for her right and it's over for her family. This is the way the intelligence world works. Not only you it's your family. It's anyone you've ever cared about right. She had a husband this guy Scott Borgensen. They lived in New Hampshire. Look up this guy. They got married. He's acting like he doesn't know who she is. Oh yeah. Scott Borgensen Oxford socialite business person. He now is like denying that he knows who just Lane Maxwell is. Yeah. It says maybe he's a fake husband. Is he has he been invented. No he's real and they were together and then he was like wow. Yeah. An article

Starting point is 00:53:15 two weeks ago says he like disappeared. Yeah. Well he's he's being like hounded by the press and they're like hey man what's going on with your wife and he doesn't you know imagine that imagine like yeah my wife's having some problems like what is it. She's sick. Well she's just laying Maxwell and they discovered just laying on that estate. Get up that house in New Hampshire. She was in because what a beautiful piece of property. She was in we we don't know if we want to see her get out or not. We want to see her get out if she'll do the show. She seems hopeful like she'll just go back to her New Hampshire home like nothing ever happened. She wanted me wants to see that. Part of me wants to see it. There it is.

Starting point is 00:54:12 Pretty. No she'll she's going to get convicted and she'll probably spend the rest of her life in jail or she'll get killed or whatever. It's called tucked away her retreat. It's a sprawling one million dollar retreat. It's nice. It's beautiful and that's where they picked her up and they brought her to. The Brooklyn detention center and who is her lawyer. Who is representing just laying Maxwell. Who is. Is it a high powered. Is it a woman. I think it should be a woman. It should be right. I hope. We want just laying to have a fair trial and have a good chance of getting off. Apparently it's a guy who represented one of Bin Laden's associates. Not a great look. His name is Sternheim. He's a trial lawyer. Listen I told you Bin Laden was clean and this bitch is

Starting point is 00:55:05 also clean. I think she needs a woman but you know what it's probably hard to get people to take the case. It's probably difficult to get people to take. It's a hard because you really got to yasqueen it up. Oh it is. It is a girl. Bobby Sternheim is a girl. Yeah fuck yeah. Yeah nice. Google Bobby Sternheim. You need to yasqueen it up. You need to be like this bitch was told to tear. Oh wow. Well. Well. Well well well well well. Bobby Sternheim is a woman. Perhaps but she is a tough bitch. She looks like one of the prison guards at the detention center. But in order to win this case if I if I was Bobby Sternheim I would have to cut. You got to go up there opening statements and be like

Starting point is 00:56:04 you know men they lie. They tell you things that aren't true and you do you've ever been strung along by a man who tells you he loves you but he just wants to fuck kids and blackmail the president. You know oldest story in the book. Men. Men out there lying and this young inexperienced daughter of media mogul who was a sweet young innocent flower didn't know the ways of the world. Yes she was practically royalty. Yes her father owned a massive media empire but so do I. So this poor young country farm girl just laying Maxwell this unsophisticated British woman gets caught up and influenced under the clutches of this figure Jeffrey Epstein. The lawyers are calling it the halo effect. It is the halo effect. He surrounds

Starting point is 00:57:21 himself with people who would serve his needs. He surrounds himself with all these people. Now this young unsophisticated. It almost seems like for her to get off they have to turn her into something she's not. It's almost like she might rather just die being a villain than having to be this useful idiot this dupe. We have to convince the jury that you're a moron that Jeffrey so what you get another few years before your tit falls off and you have your cancer anyway. It's like I get it. You want to really go out like that. You want to convince the jury that you're some idiot dupe who had no idea what was going on that you were taken advantage of. I mean that's the story they're going to have to sell. Yeah that's the narrative that they're going to have to sell.

Starting point is 00:58:02 This man took advantage of a good woman. It's happened before. It'll happen again. You know Bobby Sternemstein and whatever. Sure her voice is quivering. She's scaring the jury. Her voice you know she's got a disgusting hot coffee breath yelling at them. I just get these men. They're robbing women and their lives and you got to get the jury frothed up in a real like fuck Jeffrey. Jeffrey's a liar. Jeffrey told her things that weren't true. He said he wanted to film fitness videos on that island. He's a liar. And Lady Gislain. Well what the hell was she supposed to do. We wish her the best.

Starting point is 00:58:56 Will they do a Gislain Maxwell sketch on SNL. I don't know about that. I don't know about that. Maybe they will. Shout out to everyone at SNL. We're we kid. We love you all. We wish you the best. All right everybody. Thank you for listening from the gas digital studio. We thank the great Shannon Shannon. We love you Shannon. You're a great woman. We appreciate all your work. Who's that other broad Natalie Natalie. Hello Natalie. Thank both of you for doing everything. You built this show Natalie. You built this show. Thank you. I appreciate you're welcome. You built this program and we we appreciate we started here at gas digital and when we're thrown off the internet and finally cancel we'll probably end it here too.

Starting point is 00:59:51 All right. Good luck everybody.

The Tim Dillon Show - 277 - The New American Dream

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