The Tim Dillon Show - 320 - Dahmer (ft. Yannis Pappas)
Episode Date: October 23, 2022Dahmer | The Tim Dillon Show #320 (ft. Yannis Pappas) - Tim Dillon & Yannis Pappas discuss the fetishization of Jeffrey Dahmer, monetization of Volodymyr Zelenskyy, radicalization of Kanye West, ...& much more Merch: https://store.timdilloncomedy.com/ For every $400,000 we gross in revenue, we are donating five dollars to end homelessness in Los Angeles. We are challenging other creators to do the same. #TimGivesBack Bonus episodes: https://www.patreon.com/thetimdillonshow Netflix special: https://www.netflix.com/watch/81616382 SPONSORS: BETTERHELP ▶▶ https://www.betterhelp.com/TIMD for 10% off first month DOORDASH: ▶▶ enter code: TIMDILLON for 50% off up to $20 MEUNDIES ▶▶ https://www.meundies.com/TIM for 20% off ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ 𝐆𝐄𝐓 𝐂𝐎𝐍𝐍𝐄𝐂𝐓𝐄𝐃: 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/timjdillon/ 🐦 Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/TimJDillon 🌍 Tim Dillon Live Dates!: http://timdilloncomedy.com/#shows 📹 Subscribe to the channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4woSp8ITBoYDmjkukhEhxg Listen on Spotify! https://open.spotify.com/show/2gRd1woKiAazAKPWPkHjds #TheTimDillonShow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Tim Dillon Show live
from the greatest city in the world, Nashville, Tennessee.
Here with the voice of country music,
Giannis Papas, old friend of mine.
Are you watching Dahmer on Netflix?
Man, I haven't watched it,
but I just want to say hello to my fans
and Trump 2024 everybody.
Yeah, isn't it, that is a great archetype of person.
Be like that sweet country guy
who just talks about his fan, like I love all my fans
because you see them on social media.
And it's another, it's one of the many people
I wish I could be.
Yeah, they're very nice and kind in the South
and because the other side is just violent racism.
Hey, y'all, I love my fans.
I love y'all, thank y'all for supporting me
and being there for me and it's just a nice, you know,
it's my daughter and they hold up their daughter.
They're like, this is my special girl, you know.
And then the camera goes off and they go,
you know, Kanye West has a little bit of a point.
I'm confused cause you know.
I like that he's speaking out.
I might not agree with everything,
but I like that he's talking.
But most, most of it.
This Dahmer thing is huge because it is very hot.
It's this guy who is just taking advantage of people.
He is bringing them home, he's getting it done.
It is hot.
Didn't he do them a little bit of a favor though?
They're in Milwaukee.
It's a good way to exit Milwaukee.
The deal is everybody is kink shaming him
because we live in a cis-het nightmare,
but this is a guy who early on,
his kinks were like taking pigs home from biology
and dissecting them in his room.
And that evolved into people and, but he's cool.
You know, the thing does kind of like Dahmer's dad
is suing Netflix for glorifying his son.
This is true.
Yeah.
Because it is cool when you look at the thing,
when you're watching it, you're like Dahmer's kind of hot.
Yeah.
He's kind of cool.
He does some things we don't agree with,
but overall.
Who doesn't?
Who doesn't?
Who doesn't?
Overall, he's a likeable, hot dude who's like,
just on the journey of like getting his confidence
and people want to be him for Halloween.
This is how much it succeeded.
People want to be Dahmer for Halloween.
And now Amazon has stopped selling the Dahmer costumes
because Simone Biles, among others, the gymnast
who couldn't perform because she was sad.
The one who dropped out of the Olympics,
she is like telling everybody,
don't you dare come showing up as Dahmer.
Cause he did kill a lot of young men and boys of color.
Yeah, but not, you know,
the person showing up as Dahmer didn't.
That's always lost.
It's just a costume party.
Yeah.
That's always lost on people.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, what's the big deal?
Yeah.
I mean, if Prince, what's his name?
Prince Andrew, what's his name?
The one who's married to Meghan Merkel.
Harry.
The bimbo.
Andrew's the pedo.
Yeah.
If Harry came to my costume party
and he was dressed as Adolf,
I'm not stopping the party.
I'm not telling him to change costume.
He's not Adolf.
It's insensitive, yes,
but I don't invite Jews to my parties.
The point is, and how do you get away with that?
New York, they get in anyway.
You do it.
You do it with a DNA test at the door.
You do it with a very, you say it's COVID, but it's really.
You drop a little money on the floor
if they chase it, you kick them out.
Well, that's edited out, huh?
Adidas won't be doing your shoe.
No, you just, yeah, I take off the hat,
check for horns, none, go.
Does he come back from this Kanye?
Probably not, right?
This is, now this is too far.
He's gone a little too far.
That's why I'm enjoying it,
because he doesn't want to come back.
Yeah, that is the most fun to watch.
I mean, we've seen the kind of things,
and then people apologize.
Yeah.
He's so avant-garde.
He's like, I'm not doing the apology.
He's going, y'all gonna have to kill me.
That's right.
He's go, Jews, people gonna have to kill me.
And if you kill me, guess what?
There'll be another Kanye,
born in another ghetto in Chicago,
saved the same shit,
and we gotta meet two of these Jews.
What do you do to someone who's at that point?
Kill him.
In there, there's not much else you can do, right?
You gotta take him out.
Because he's having such a public meltdown,
and he has so many fans and so many followers.
We're, of course, obviously, it needs not, to be said,
are not advocating this,
but there's gotta be people going, like, he's a problem.
Yeah, but do you think they're going, he's a problem,
or he's so out there that it's not a problem?
Well, it's not that he's a problem, like,
in the sense that he's going to, like,
galvanize people against the Jews.
Right.
I just mean he's a problem, like,
how bad does this get publicly?
How, when does he stop getting the platforms?
Maybe this is it, right?
Like, when does he stop getting
massive mainstream attention?
When does that go away?
When do they go, okay, yes, we want the views,
yes, we want the clicks, but he's going too far.
Yeah.
Is it flat earth?
Like, what stop on the train is when they pull back?
Well, that's a, you don't wanna do that analogy here.
Stop on the train.
Right, I don't even, yeah, I wasn't even thinking about that.
Stop on the boat.
Stop on the boat.
Yeah, I think as soon as he buys Parler,
and he starts, he starts voicing his opinions on Parler.
Cause I think that's what you do now,
is you just, you say something crazy,
and then you just, as a billionaire,
and then you buy a conservative social media site,
and then nobody cares anymore.
You're gonna have to have a billion dollars just to speak.
And you know what, he's not even gonna enjoy Parler.
What he enjoys, he's an attention guy.
Right.
So he likes shocking people.
But when he goes on Parler, after he buys Parler,
and he's like, Jews run the world,
and everyone's going, this is no fun.
No, that's an echo chamber.
And that's what you're gonna need.
You're gonna need a couple of billion to really get wild.
Like, we used to be able to get wild after a few drinks,
and you still can at the local pub.
But if you wanna get wild publicly now,
you're gonna have to have billions of dollars.
You do have to have billions of dollars.
You're gonna have to buy an app
that will allow you to be racist.
Yeah.
You have to purchase, you have to have a company.
Now, you used to be able to just be racist.
Now you have to have a company with, like,
secretaries and executives and ad sales people.
You're gonna have to have a monetization strategy
just to go out and be racist.
Yeah, yeah.
That's the level we're at.
There's no more poor racism anymore.
Racism is gonna cost you.
Yeah, it's gonna cost you a lot of money.
And paranoia is gonna cost you.
Alex Jones, $965 billion for Sandy Hook.
Yeah, I just can't, I don't understand
why they're trying to stop all the entertainment.
I mean, how much are those kids worth?
I mean, you could have killed me for nothing.
Yeah.
Yeah, he doesn't have it to pay it.
No one has, it's a symbolic number.
Nobody can really pay that in the media sphere, right?
It's a symbolic number.
It's just to kind of get people to shut up.
Yeah, it's kind of when they give somebody
multiple life sentences, you're going like,
all right, I guess when I have multiple lives, you know.
Right.
How is this even relevant to me?
It'll matter, it's symbolic.
I'm not Hindu, this isn't relevant to me.
Do you remember when Dahmer got popped?
Cause you've been around.
Yeah, I'm 80.
So when Dahmer got popped,
do you remember this being a big deal?
Was this a media circus?
It was a media circus.
Yeah, we love serial killers.
It's almost unfortunate that they've been kind of
put out of business by DNA and the surveillance state.
Well, serial killers now just go on parlor.
They go on parlor.
No, they never get to the actual hard work
of stalking and killing.
They just pop off.
Well, we have, I think they mutated into school shooters.
That's the new incarnation of-
Oh, interesting.
Is that your theory?
Yeah, because you know, it's like, we make them stars.
Right.
You know, someone's gonna wanna walk down that red carpet.
That's right.
Of blood.
And it's somebody who can get the, you know,
it's kind of an immediate result.
Immediate.
Overnight, as opposed to a serial killer
who has to go through this process for a very long time.
You don't have to do Conan.
You don't have to do a half hour.
You go straight to fame.
Yeah, what are the true crime podcasts gonna do?
Cause we know all these sick bitches who love,
they just love the idea of people getting stalked
and killed.
And they talk about it endlessly
and they make the families relive all this trauma.
My favorite murder, George and Karen,
all the time they won't stop.
Even when the families ask them to stop,
they're like, please, we don't need this.
They do kind of exactly what Alex Jones did,
which is they get everybody revved up to like,
crack, let's crack the cold case.
Right.
What are they gonna talk about now that serial killers
are done?
How are they going to manipulate people's trauma
and grief for ad sales?
They're just gonna have to go to war crimes podcasts.
That might be interesting.
Yeah, they're just little war crimes podcasts.
But that's not cool, cause that's not sexy enough.
Like they really want, it's like a woman who was jogging
alone or a woman who went on two dates with a guy
and then ended up in a trunk.
Like they really like that type of,
cause the women listening are usually women who are
in desperate need of that their dream is to get raped
and killed.
The women listening to those podcasts,
their dream is to have someone love them enough
to stalk, rape and kill them.
That is all they want.
All they want to do is hear that window slide
in the middle of the night.
And they get, they start like, ooh,
and they want somebody to run up and chloroform them.
And no one that night after night, nobody does.
It's another empty, it's another trip to the fridge
at 2 30 in the morning with no chloroform.
Nobody's trying to kill you.
Nobody cares.
But that's what they,
that's what they like those podcasts so much.
Yeah, you're right.
Most, most women live.
Most women just live.
That's right.
About ignored.
Ignored.
Ignored.
Yeah.
Ignored.
So when people see Dommer and when I watch Dommer,
what's so interesting?
Maybe the ladies feel left out.
Maybe because he was only focusing on gays.
Subconsciously, the ladies are like upset.
Well, also some of the ladies are like, psh.
So what?
This is being a woman every day, you know?
Cause that's the new attitude.
Like they're like, psh.
Getting eaten, chased by cannibals.
That's being a woman.
24 Seth.
That's what it's like to be a woman.
Oh, finally.
Oh, is it disturbing that a cannibal's
drugging and eating you?
How about you try being a woman for literally 15 minutes?
Try being a woman that has an idea in a meeting
full of men for literally 15 minutes.
It is essentially having your liver eaten
by a cannibal in Milwaukee.
That is also part of some of the attitude I see now.
Yeah, I know.
Like it's not such a huge deal.
It's tough.
It's really tough in America.
It is disturbing to watch though,
because he brings these guys up to his thing
and he drugs them and they're like,
trying to get out and they're stumbling around.
I mean, you know, it's a little bit of a Halloween episode.
Here I have the great pumpkin on
and you're dressed like some type of costume,
but this is your real thing.
You know, I don't know what this is, Danny Zuko.
I don't know what you're doing or what the point of it is,
but whatever it is.
It's called the Rested Development.
I should have on khakis and-
No idea.
Merrell shoes and glasses.
Yeah, you live in this beautiful thing
of this beautiful family and you're out here dressed like,
I don't even know, you've got money on the street
or some of your collecting numbers,
but some people meet a very bad end in America.
Yeah.
And that's what I thought about watching Dahmer.
I said, some people meet a very, very bad end.
And I don't mean like some of our friends
where they're just accused of rape
after a pretty good career.
I mean, like a bad end, like they go out one night
and it just doesn't, they think it goes,
gonna go one way and it goes the other way.
Yeah, but it's rare.
I mean, you know, if you get selected,
there is some sort of,
you should sort of feel special a little bit.
You were selected.
It's a rare selection.
It's a small club that gets eaten by Jeffrey Dahmer.
Do you know any-
Most people in Milwaukee just fucking eat mayonnaise
and die of diabetes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They don't make the movies.
Do you know anyone that this has happened to
or something cool?
Do you know anyone who's left the planet
in a way that's a little cool?
Well, we both do.
I wouldn't say it was cool, but horrific.
What do you mean?
Oh, yeah.
Okay, yeah.
Yeah, well, we're not gonna-
Yeah, that's not cool.
No, that's not what I mean.
Yeah.
Especially since the restaurant's been
discombobulated since.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, that's great.
I mean, that's random.
Yeah. Kind of.
But I mean, like, I don't know.
Anyone you grew up with,
they ended up getting murdered?
Yeah, let me just sift through my brain
to see if I know anyone who's-
We knew a guy who'd been eaten.
Killed a girl under a bridge,
but we didn't really know him
and we didn't really know her.
But it was in my town,
but we didn't know either of them.
But people I knew had met them.
Yeah.
It's real, not really a great,
but I'm just saying,
I don't know because you grew up in Brooklyn,
you have this whole story,
but you wonder if anybody-
I can't think of anyone who's been eaten.
Yeah, well, not eaten,
but just killed by a serial killer.
What is your, what if you,
what's your fear that's like a horror movie fear?
You personally, not your family, nothing.
I mean, just like you.
What was your fear when you were younger,
when you were growing up?
I mean, you've been shot, right?
So you kind of, you've been there,
but what was the thing that really got you scared?
Or as a white man, does nothing scare you?
Would nothing scare you?
It's a pretty smooth flight.
Right.
I gotta say it's a smooth, not a lot of turbulence.
It's a pretty smooth flight.
Well, that scares me, airplanes.
Airplanes are scary.
I get scared because I'm not in control.
Yeah.
No, but I was always scared of being killed.
Yeah.
You know, cause there was just like robbers
and killers everywhere.
Right.
Yeah.
So you just growing up in New York at the time was not fun.
There's something at the Midwest where I've been there.
I've performed in these places, Milwaukee, Omaha, all these.
And there's something about it that is oddly occult.
Right.
It feels evil.
It feels like there's underground things going on.
It feels like the people there,
there's more than, more to them than meets the eye,
that there's some like strange things happening.
Cult, cult like.
Well, they're also.
Bacon ties.
They're also Germanic.
There's a lot of Germanic people.
Yeah.
But there's Germanic people everywhere.
I know, but the Germanic people have it in them.
Yeah.
You watch their porn, you look at their history,
you perform comedy for them.
They're very cerebral, they're very rational,
but that also leads to rationalization.
They're missing a little piece of humanity.
I think that's what happened in World War II.
I think they were going like, finally someone,
someone gave us a purpose.
They want to do it.
They want to do it.
Yeah.
The Germans want to do it.
They want to do it.
They want to do it.
By it, you mean the Holocaust.
That's exactly, I didn't want to say it.
I don't want to get demonetized for you.
But yeah, they want, they have a thing in them where,
it's like, it's in there.
Like I have a gaugey.
I'm Greek, like I can unlock it.
If I go to prison, I'll pick it up.
It's in there culturally through generations.
The Germans have the Irish with booze.
Exactly, you unlock it.
Yeah.
Like if you're Irish and you have a drink,
there's a good chance you might have another,
and then have another, and then your wife's on the floor.
Yeah, with the Germans, you hit one, you hit one slob.
Next thing you know, it just opens the door
and you want to just kill them all.
When, you know, this idea that people shouldn't go
dressed up as a character like Jeffrey Dahmer to Halloween.
Is this something you subscribe to?
Do you, when you have a child,
are you going to really be heavily involved
in the decisions?
Are you going to be like the type of like
helicopter parent who goes,
hey, this is appropriate, this is not?
Well, if it's a kid's Halloween party,
you really shouldn't show up as Jeffrey Dahmer.
But that's a fun, if you brought a kid
dressed as Jeffrey Dahmer, that's kind of fun.
It's funny, yeah, it's a little funny.
That's funny, yeah.
No, I think the Halloween party should, that's your time to,
you know what I was when I was a kid for Halloween?
A serial killer.
Generic one?
Generic, here's what I did.
I took a big, my aunt made me a box
and we put all kinds of lucky charms on it
and we glued them to the box
and I ate them during trick or treating.
I would just eat them off my thing and almost get sick
as they were covered in glue.
I just wanted to be a carbohydrate for Halloween,
but I was a serial killer.
It was a fun way to be a dark thing that's fun.
Right, I could see, yeah.
Well now I just like, whatever my wife gets me
as a costume on Amazon, that's what I'm gonna be.
I think I'm gonna be a bubble guppy or something like that.
When you have a kid, you just are pulled into that world
and you just start doing kid stuff.
I know.
And it's a family costume.
It's a family costume.
It's a family costume.
Yeah, she's one person in it,
I'm the other one and I'm the other one.
Yeah, it's weird if like a single guy shows up
to a family Halloween as a baby costume.
I would actually almost be more comfortable
if he was Jeffrey Dahmer than say like,
I don't know, the guy from Frozen.
Because you're going like, why do you know about Frozen?
Yeah, the only people who should know about Frozen
should have kids.
If you don't have kids, you know about Frozen.
I know better because my cousin wrote the fucking music to it.
Well, there you have it.
Fucking two egotts.
What are you gonna do?
Yeah, but if you're just a guy who knows children stuff,
you're going like.
It's strange.
Strange.
It's strange.
I'm only three or four episodes into the Dahmer thing,
but it's like, it's really interesting
how somebody grows up to be a cannibal.
This is something that's really interesting
because it is this weird psychosexual thing
that happens in your head.
You don't know how it had like the mother was very weird
and she was very naggy and anxious
and the dad was a little nuts.
But how do you create a cannibal?
It's so difficult.
Can our producer here for the moment
get up any information on like,
how are cannibals created?
Yeah, well, they said he had something that's,
I can't remember the medical term for it,
but he was attracted to the shiny,
the shininess of the organs.
Like there's some, there's actually a term for it
where people are attracted to shiny stuff
and they believe it's like evolutionary somehow.
Well, this is very interesting.
I never even thought organs were shiny.
Yeah, when you pull them out, they glean a little bit.
Really?
Yeah, they don't, it's not like the same as bling,
but they have a glean to them.
Interesting.
And he was kind of drawn to that.
He was drawn to that, they say.
That was his sexual orientation.
Is that the worst nightmare to raise a child who's a cannibal?
Yeah, I'd say so.
Cause when they sit Dahmer's dad down
and they're like, he's gay.
And then Dahmer's dad's like, oh no.
And then they're like, hold on.
I just liked the way they did the family apology
very Midwestern too.
Oh dad, I'm sorry.
And he's like, I love your son.
I mean, if my dad found out I was eating people,
he would say that's not my son.
Kill him, shoot him.
Son, I love your son.
It's okay.
Well, you know, that's what I mean,
but there's something going on out there
where people go, that's just something that happens.
Yeah.
It's not, it's completely out of the realm of possibility
because life is so mind numbingly boring out there.
That's what it is.
It's cornfields, it's mind numbingly boring.
People's inner lives can get away from them out there.
And some people are thinking about like,
what if instead of eating a steak, I eat a person?
Yeah.
Try something different tonight.
That's why I think-
How many times can you go to Red Lobster anyway?
How many times?
And I think that that's part of what makes that area
so interesting is that there's a monotony,
there's a monotony of life everywhere,
but out there it's so plain
and the scenery is so plain and so vast
that people's minds start playing tricks with them
and they start going like, maybe I will try to do something.
Yeah, I think you gotta be a psychopath.
I think you're born,
I don't think there's any level of bad nurture
that makes you wanna eat somebody.
I think you're born with like a bad brain.
It's like you just have no empathy,
you're very calculated, you're very premeditated.
I mean, look at the way he did it.
He chose certain people he knew.
He chose people he knew cops would look the other way
if they found them on the street naked
with a bleeding anus and a hole in their head.
Right.
Have you gotten to that scene yet?
I have.
I mean, what is the test to be a cop?
I mean, back then?
Is there a chapter on there that says,
hey, if a guy's, he's barely conscious,
his asshole's bleeding, he's naked in the street
and there happens to be a drilled hole in his head.
You may not wanna just peruse the scene and leave.
But you know what it is,
it really does go back to the idea
that Dahmer was like this Midwestern white guy
and they felt kinda like bad from,
they'd say things like, what do you do in living here?
Yeah.
Like these are all drug addicts, why are you here?
And more often than not, they looked the other way.
You know, he gave him the excuse, he was pulled over.
He's like, yeah, you know, my parents got divorced,
he's been kind of a tough time.
They're like, ah, everybody goes through stuff.
And it was homophobic.
There was homophobia involved in this.
Yes, homophobic too.
I think they were just like,
whoa, I don't wanna see the picture.
Whatever you guys are doing, this isn't how you gays do it.
I wanna get out of here, yeah.
I don't wanna get AIDS from walking in the apartment.
Yeah.
There was a lot of that that he used to his advantage.
He was kind of a very smart guy.
That's what I'm saying.
He was sharp.
Psychopathic, like premeditated.
He selected his victims, you can tell for that purpose.
You know, he was dissecting them.
I mean, at least he could, you know, knew 101 anatomy.
He could pass an entry level class in anatomy.
He knew where a liver was.
No, he knew a lot of stuff.
I mean, again, it's one of those guys
where it's like you watch this thing,
you're trying to hate him, it's hard.
Good job, Netflix.
It's very difficult to hate him here.
I'm telling you, you watch other things
and it's easy to hate the person.
There's something tough here because you're like,
he's experiencing so many things
that are running through his head, you can't hate him.
Yeah, they portrayed him as sort of a lonely.
A loner.
His mom was mean to him.
He's figuring it out.
Yeah, coming of age story.
That's what it feels like.
It feels like a coming of age story.
It's like a fun, gay, coming of age story.
He's got his shirt off all the time
and occasionally he eats someone's kidney.
It's not, it's sexy.
It's kind of fun.
It's like Netflix was like, let's make something hot.
Yeah.
And let's make something fun.
It's like a young adult YA movie with cannibalism.
Well, it's so unlike the entertainment industry
in Hollywood to make something like this.
It's really not their modus operandi.
Usually they take those things into consideration.
They don't want to be exploitative.
They don't.
They're so good usually.
They usually, I mean, what are they?
They're so sweet.
I think they waited, what, like five or six weeks
before the first 9-11 movie.
Yeah.
So I mean, they're usually more sensitive about these things.
No, it was, but watching it, I do understand now
why the domers are like, dude, you're glorifying my son
because I'm like, he's kind of like an anti-hero.
Yeah.
In this thing.
It's like Batman in the new Batman.
Yeah.
It's like Tony Soprano, Walter White, Jeff Dahmer.
You want him to win.
You don't want him to get caught.
You know, when the cops get him,
you have this weird feeling.
You're like, I don't really want him to get caught.
Right.
I want him to keep doing what he has to do.
Yeah.
You know, it's funny because he, psychopaths,
lie all the time.
Yes.
So it's almost like Hollywood made the movie
that he would have liked.
Yes.
Portraying the version of himself
that he created after he got caught.
But then you hear stories about him in jail
and how he used to, like, he would, you know,
he would, you know, chastise people
by making his food look like organs and make noises
and stuff like that.
He would, you know, he's not, he's not a nice guy.
Oh, interesting.
But I didn't know that.
He seems in this movie kind of just like ripped.
He would taunt people.
Yeah.
Oh, but he seems like more ripped in this
and like kind of like just figuring out who he is
in the world and it's not easy for a young man
at any age to figure it out.
That's what I get.
Yeah.
That's what I think Netflix's intent is.
And I'm like, fully on board with that.
Where I watch it and I go,
this is a guy who's really coming into his own.
Right.
That's what it feels like to me.
Coming of age.
Yeah.
Yeah, totally.
He's coming into his own.
Oh yeah, I mean, you know, they portray.
Can it be hot?
Is it okay for it to be attractive?
I mean, is it okay for an attractive guy
to be lifting weights and be attractive
even though he's maybe killing people?
It was very hot until he hit him with the dumbbell.
Well, but even that, there's an element there of hotness.
Because he's taking back his,
I don't even know what the word is,
but he's like taking the narrative back.
Well, the guy rejected him.
The guy's like, I'm not like that.
The guy's like very like straight, toxic.
And also homophobic and then he's like an LGBTQ hero
that comes in and smashes homophobia.
And he wasn't trying to kill him,
he was just trying to subdue him.
Right.
Yeah.
And that's what I like is that Netflix's version
of the show kind of is sympathetic
to his version of events.
I feel like maybe they let Weinstein
like produce this on the low.
Could be, yeah.
It feels like with things that are getting good again,
it feels like the Me Too crew's coming back.
Yeah.
Because this is exactly what something should be.
You're like, am I horrified?
Am I aroused?
This is where good movies live.
Am I accountable?
This is what you want people saying to themselves
in the suburbs while they watch this and eat Panera.
Yeah.
You want to confuse people.
And this is what movies used to do
before everything was like, this is right
and this is wrong.
Right.
Now it's like, oh my God, it's a big gray area.
What's going on?
Yeah.
They definitely were sympathetic to his version
of what happened.
The two instances I'm thinking about
is the one murder in the hotel room.
He goes, I don't remember.
I don't remember.
I just woke up and he was beaten to death.
Yeah.
And I don't remember.
And then the other one where he hit the guy
with the dumbbell, he goes,
I didn't mean to hurt him.
I didn't mean to hurt him.
I was just trying to, you know, wake him up
with the dumbbell to the face.
Right.
And they're going like, I guess he's telling the truth.
Yeah.
I guess that's, because that's the version in the show
where it's like, that's not true at all.
He beat that guy to death in the hotel room
because he's a psychopath.
And then he smashed that guy in the head
because he couldn't wait to get to the dead body part.
He didn't like having sex with live people
because they moved.
He didn't like people moving.
It's such an odd, fetish necrophilia.
Well, people can be a drag with their needs and their wants.
It's a great point.
Really, they can.
It's a great point.
Yeah.
It's a very, and you know what?
It's not made enough.
You know?
It's like you want something.
Well, they look back at podcasting one day as this insane.
Like, I wonder how they look back at all this.
Like, well, they make a Dahmer movie
but about this.
Like, well, they just look back and go,
there was a point in our history
where people just talk for hours and hours and hours
endlessly with no facts,
really nothing to back any of it up.
At best case, they guessed about things.
Worst case, they completely made it up.
They were everybody from comedians to fucking journalists
to writers to just common street people.
And they would just get on the microphone
and just pontificate about things,
knowing nothing about them.
You wonder if at some point they look back on this
and they go, that was Dahmer-esque.
Like, do they look back on this and go like,
there's endless, endless hours
of these fucking idiots talk.
Like, will they make a movie about this?
Like, called like podcast,
where it's just like people years from now
are so fed up with this medium.
It's become so cringe to them.
Like the idea of like guys in headphones
sitting in front of a microphone
makes people as sick as Dahmer eating someone.
I think as long as people are gonna be driving in cars
or working out,
they'll be something they'll wanna listen to.
Yeah, I mean, I guess.
Don't know if it's gonna be the Water Guys podcast.
This guy came and did my water.
And he was like, do you mind if I do a little video?
And I was like, what?
And he was like, you know, my boss is 55, he doesn't get it.
And they just turns the camera on.
He's like, okay guys, what you see there
is a bypass valve and what's going on.
Another satisfied customer.
And he started making content.
But there's guys we just talked about on Patreon.
People making money, if you work at like a job
like Cold Stone Creamery and you start making TikToks,
you could build millions and millions of followers
when one kid opened up his own ice cream shop.
Yeah.
So it can happen.
It can happen.
Everybody now has a little bit of a chance
of transcending this hellscape with something they do.
By accident.
Yeah.
Only good things now that you can do
are kind of by accident.
Well, if you want everyone caught up in that casino,
you gotta elevate one or two as an example.
Somebody's gotta pop.
So you're like, look, the water guy made it.
Yes.
And so then that keeps everybody.
It keeps everybody going.
On TikTok, so then the CCP can find out
all your information.
What do you think is gonna, you think, you think we're,
do you think someone's gonna detonate a nuke in,
do you think Putin's gonna.
I hope so.
Detonate something.
I hope so.
I just feel a little bit like enough already.
Come on.
Yeah, it's getting boring.
Do it.
Yeah.
Do it, pussy.
Doesn't it feel a little bit like that?
It almost kind of feels like
the Trump is gonna get indicted thing.
You're like, when?
Right.
This has been going on forever.
Yeah, it's just, it's the lag.
Yeah.
There's lags forever.
Get to it.
Get to it.
We don't have that type of attention span anymore.
Nuke it or lock them up, do something,
but stop, or stop talking about it.
Yeah.
I'm kind of upset when they just can't stop discussing it.
I'm like, I just want some, I want some progress.
Right.
Right.
I want some progress.
Right.
You guys have not gotten past the idea stage.
There's gotta be some progress.
Does Zelinsky make it out of this alive?
Yeah.
He does.
I think he does.
Do you know he's selling a book of his speeches?
Is he gonna go on tour with Michelle Obama?
Zelinsky's, I thought you were gonna say Michelle Wolf.
Zelinsky is selling.
Yeah.
Zelinsky is selling a book of his wartime speeches.
So that's what he's focused on now.
That's where he's at.
Who's he repped by?
Yeah, I don't know.
CAA?
I don't know.
I see him.
And by the way, how good are these speeches
that there needs to be a book?
Yeah.
In the middle of the war.
Yeah.
The war has not been won.
Right, no.
There is no, in fact, there's no real off ramps to the war.
It seems like we're going towards nuclear annihilation.
Right.
So these speeches that are so magical,
I don't know what they've inspired,
except a continued march towards total and all out war.
Well, that may be some of the back channel negotiations
with Putin being like, hey man,
just let me get my book out.
Yeah.
We just wanna put out some speeches.
Yeah.
And then you can do whatever you want.
Do what you want.
Yeah, do what you want.
It's boring and I feel like I, you know,
would like to see some resolution,
hopefully a peaceful resolution,
but if not, then nuke.
It's going on too long like the Irishman.
Yeah.
It could be edited.
Yeah.
Yeah, it needs an editor of this war at this point.
I almost sort of going, I was in Romania,
I almost sort of going to the Ukraine.
You were gonna get tickets?
I was gonna go to the Ukraine and go,
is it even happening here?
Yeah.
But then people said it is,
they 30% of their infrastructure is done.
So they said, okay.
Like he's hitting them hard.
Water, power, they don't have Wi-Fi.
Putin's hitting them now.
Yeah, he's hitting them.
He's hitting them hard.
He's hitting them.
He's hitting them with the artillery.
Right, it could be Iranian drones
or it could be his own drones.
All I know is our media is telling us it's Iranian drones.
Whatever it is.
Yeah, we don't know.
Well, cause there was that whole thing in Iran
where, and I don't know what that was,
but everyone was posting about it.
That woman in Iran, something happened to her
and that was sad.
Are you talking about the revolution
happening over there?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's kind of dragging on too.
What is it?
She had a cloak on and she said,
I don't want to do it today.
Yeah, I mean, she had the Hajj.
I always pronounce it wrong.
Hajjib.
Hajjab.
Hajjab.
Hijab.
Hijab on.
Yeah.
She had the job on and...
Oh, she didn't have it on.
What?
She took it off.
She took it off.
And that's a no-no over there.
You gotta keep it on.
It's a no-no over there to take it off.
Over here, it's a rah-rah to put it on.
Put it on and you're in.
You're in, baby, Nike commercial.
You're getting a book deal.
Yeah.
So she took it off of what happened, acid in the face?
Is something like that?
Okay.
Yeah, I would say.
Yeah, I mean, you know, it could have been acid in the face.
By the way, the gas station producer,
instead of like finding articles
where this stuff's happening,
he's just trying to sign into his email.
He's just, he's just...
Oh, there she is.
That's sad.
Well, now you're bumming us out.
We don't want that.
Well, what happened?
That's a bummer.
What happened?
That's a big bummer.
She's laying there in the hospital
trying to do a comedy show.
Trying to do a comedy podcast.
We don't need a picture of her in the hospital.
That doesn't help.
Maybe.
The sponsors won't like that.
We're trying to sell underwear here for fat people.
He just made me thought we were more visual.
Do we know what happened to her, good old producer?
Do we know?
It's, they're saying she had a heart attack
and a police station collapsed
and fell into a coma,
but that doesn't seem to be a, she died.
I think that's, she's like they're,
in their revolution right now,
that she's like they're George Floyd, right?
I think one, I think one side...
Now I get it.
Yeah, one side's going, hey, she fell.
And the other side's going like, I don't think she fell.
One side's going like...
One side's going...
One side's going, it's fentanyl.
I don't think it was.
I saw a nine minute video where a guy was going,
I can't breathe and you were kneeing on his neck.
I think that had something to do with it.
Well, somebody sent me him swallowing a bag of drugs.
Oh.
Floyd, I don't know if that's true or not.
No, it could be.
Someone sent me something.
Yeah.
Someone.
But the knee on the neck probably didn't help.
Never good.
Never good.
So this woman is Iran's George Floyd.
Right.
That, now you've put it in context for me.
That's the only way for us to understand her.
Because I've never knew.
Yes.
She had a heart attack at the police.
She fell.
Which is a real unfortunate series of events.
Or, something else happened and that's why Iran is,
it's really heating up.
Yeah, she was, you know, doing the equivalent of cashing a...
Yeah, so here we go again.
However, eyewitnesses, including women
who were detained with amini reportedly said
she was severely beaten and that she died
as a result of police brutality.
Which is probably true.
I, or...
It's probably true.
Depends on who, yes.
Or not.
She fell into the stairs.
It could have been because maybe they're it,
but maybe it wasn't that.
Right.
Right.
I would guess it wasn't that.
Really?
Yeah, I would guess.
Because they don't take too kindly to women taking off.
So you're saying she was beaten?
I'm saying there's a chance.
There's a chance.
There's a chance.
She was beaten.
Yeah.
To death.
I suspect.
It's probably, yeah.
I suspect there's a chance.
Okay.
I'd say that there's a good chance.
Cause yeah, I guess.
Well, by the way, whatever that is, we're not, hey.
You know, we're on our, we think that that is abhorrent
and it should be, we should, we should do something.
I don't know what we should do.
We should maybe make another commercial about it.
Well, you know, there's gotta be a way.
This would be a perfect time for Nike
to make a follow up commercial.
Of her or of something in Iran?
No, some with how important it is.
To wear the hijab.
To wear the hijab.
Yeah.
And play tennis or something.
Yeah.
This would be a perfect timing for it.
Don't miss this opportunity.
This is like the six months right after 9-11.
This is like true crimes.
And instead of just do it,
when you're about to take the hijab off,
Nike could go, think about it.
Ha.
Ha.
Ha.
Ha.
Ha.
Ha.
Ha.
Are you sure you wanna do that?
Ha.
You don't have to,
you don't have to just do it.
It could be,
think it over.
Think about it before you do it.
Think about it, yeah.
Think about it.
There's a lot of history there.
There's a lot of tradition on your head
that you are now taking off.
It's your choice.
Put it on, put it off.
That's the place.
That's all you have to do.
So the commercial should be someone putting it on
to play tennis.
That's right.
But then you show her taking it off.
Yeah.
And she doesn't fall into the stairs.
Yeah.
That's what's good.
You have to take it off.
And then she starts thinking about her mother
and grandmother and society
and that their rules do need to kind of be in place.
Right.
And she realizes that at the end of the day,
the best thing she can do is go along with the plan.
Right.
Right.
Because sometimes that's just,
it's a nice thing to do.
Yeah.
So that's what's going on over there.
That's what's going on.
Is that the women work.
Here's the other thing,
and I gotta be honest,
and this is gonna probably make me sound
like insensitive here.
It's like,
you don't have to wear the full one, right?
No, but it's like when,
like I get what you're saying.
It's like, okay, you guys are a little upset.
You can't take them off if you want to.
But we got a wage gap here.
Yeah.
It's also like.
Everyone's got problems.
And nothing's perfect.
It's like, well, here's what I,
I always go, this isn't my culture.
It's, this is when people get angry at me.
They're like, no, you don't understand.
It's not my culture.
Right.
The reality is, I don't tell them what to do.
Right.
Because I don't, it's not,
we're not, nothing to do with anything.
And also that would be wrong of you to do.
It would be wrong.
It's wrong.
As pumpkin fat whitey, tell them,
but here's the deal.
I don't go into sub-Saharan Africa
where they're lobbing off clips and making stew
and tell them what to do.
Is that what I would do?
No.
No, Anthony Bardain would,
it would be rude for him not to taste it.
He would go and eat it.
Yeah.
But I just say, let people do what they do.
And it would be, it would be, what, what is it?
I don't meddle.
It would be, what's it ethnocentric?
Yes.
It would be ethnocentric to assume
that you can say what's right or wrong.
But it kind of would.
I know we're being sarcastic, but here's the deal.
What are we supposed to do?
Invade?
No.
And convince everyone to not lob the clips off
and make the stew?
No.
What's the point?
No.
Whatever makes you happy?
We're supposed to send.
Whatever makes you happy?
We send weapons.
We have a defense industry that needs to unload
some weapons.
I don't like that Ukraine was a country of white Nazis
and we've somehow made it into like,
it's a RuPaul's Drag Race.
Well, but homosexuality was like basically illegal there
up until 20 minutes ago when it's now
the most gay friendly country of an ex-Soviet country.
We just lie about what all these things are anyway.
But I'm sure there's a few Nazis in Russia too.
For sure, but Ukraine, it was like a massive thing.
There was all kinds of things that they pulled down videos.
It's just, they're into it.
Yeah, it's propaganda.
We send to it.
What do you think about this thing where they say
Russians are being armed with Viagra to rape Ukrainians?
That feels fake.
That feels like propaganda.
I would sue if I was Viagra.
I mean, Russians are being,
like they're doing poorly on the battlefield anyway
and they're going, by the way,
if you have extra time, go rape someone.
Yeah.
That seems like it's a little wacky.
Well, you know, there's always atrocities on both sides.
It's war.
Sure.
That's why I love when people always go like,
hey, this side's uncivilized.
You're like, the whole thing is fucked.
The whole thing is fucked.
People don't know how to draw the line.
They don't go in there and like British have a T
and then kill you in the proper way.
It's like, it gets ugly.
It gets very ugly on both sides.
Well, that's why we have to make some type of deal maybe.
I mean, we gotta get out of there.
We gotta give a deal.
There's gotta be a deal.
Gotta get a lawyer in there.
Get that region.
Give him those regions that he wants and fucking no NATO.
Yeah.
That's what you need to get.
A good Hollywood lawyer in there and say, let's make a deal.
Like a shark.
Let's get in there.
We've been preventing that, you know?
We've been telling Ukraine like,
don't go to the table, just keep fighting.
Yeah.
That's not great.
Yeah, we must have some interest in it.
Yeah, we like those weapons.
Do they got oil in there?
I don't know.
They got a great position geographically
and we like slinging weapons and we like, you know,
but we keep, we kind of tell,
because like, I think we have to like,
tellings Linsky and everything like,
hey man, don't negotiate like just, you know,
but now Putin's like, okay, well, you know what?
We're gonna now turn up the heat.
Right.
So if we don't, if there's no negotiation that's forced,
you're looking at a really bad situation
because Putin will level Ukraine.
He's going to level Ukraine.
And then he'll get leveled.
It'll be bad for the whole world.
It'll be bad for the whole world.
Otherwise, he's dead.
Yeah.
This week, you don't understand.
You, but people, if he goes back to his country
and goes, hey, sorry, I wasted all the time
and disgraced us, they're killing him.
Yeah.
So he, his own self-preservation is like,
I'm going to try to win.
Right.
We got to win here.
And it could be an ugly win.
Yeah.
It might not be a nice win.
It might be like everybody's dad
and there's an insurgency for years
and everybody hates us, but we did technically win.
Yeah.
So I think you try to avoid that
by making some type of deal.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think, you know, if you're listening to his podcast,
Putin, and you're listening to Zelensky.
He does.
Yeah.
Zelensky too.
Putin's a huge Tim Dillon fan.
He's a huge Tim Dillon fan.
Wouldn't that be funny if he was just a huge
comedy podcast fan?
I would love it if he was a massive comedy podcast fan.
Nothing would make me happier.
If Zelensky's just got time in his little bunker,
whatever he just throws on.
Well, Zelensky is such a fame, whoring guy
that he's aware of every celebrity.
Maybe not like shitty podcast celebrities,
but Zelensky knows of every Hollywood A-list
or like he just wants to be on the,
I think he's been on the cover of Vogue.
Like, that's what he wants to do.
And he was an entertainer before.
Yes.
And he is now, it seems.
Seems like he is one now as well.
Because he likes the limelight.
He doesn't shrink from the limelight.
He doesn't fade.
No, no, no.
He's definitely, they've turned him
into Winston Churchill.
Does this go into World War III?
You know a lot about history.
Perhaps.
Yeah.
Perhaps.
Ugly.
Yeah, it could.
I mean.
Just trying to go, fuck it, we're going into Taiwan.
China's definitely going into Taiwan.
And if China goes into Taiwan, what do we have to do?
I mean, what do we do?
Nothing really.
Well, if it, this is the thing.
If it wasn't for NATO, it would have happened already.
Right.
If it wasn't for NATO,
Ukraine and Georgia would be leveled already.
So it's like, you know, I just don't think, you know,
I don't know if I buy Putin's version
that he's just like,
Hey, I'm upset about NATO.
But here's a, forget that, whether they,
no matter what his motivations are,
he's got all the nukes.
Yeah.
So it doesn't really matter why he did it.
No, he's got it.
This is the thing.
It doesn't really matter.
Because a friend of mine,
he's a smart guy with foreign policy.
He was like, who cares?
There's a million reasons why anyone does anything.
Right.
He did it.
And he's going, I want these two things.
And if you don't give me them,
I will bomb the country.
And if you bomb me,
I have nukes or we're just going to go,
we're going to have a party.
Well, at some point,
someone was going to hijack the world
with their nuclear capability.
Yeah.
I mean, human nature hasn't changed.
So some autocrat, eventually, inevitably
was going to do something like this.
Yeah.
So from here, it either sparks World War three
and we all go Kaputsky and we don't make it to Mars
or something happens that stops it.
Okay.
That something will be a video from Hollywood.
Why are they so fucking quiet?
Yeah.
Where is that video?
Where is that compilation video from them saying stop?
It should just be a bunch of Hollywood actors
like on set because they're all working now.
So they're on set and then they just go,
Mr. Putin, stop.
Stop it.
Stop it.
Stop it.
He just goes from like Amy Schumer to like,
you know, Sean Penn to Jennifer Garner
to whatever, to whoever it is.
Yeah.
Stop.
Yeah.
Jacob Elordi from Euphoria.
Yeah.
Stop it, Mr. Putin.
Yeah.
Zendaya.
Stop it.
Keenan Thompson in there.
Yeah.
Stop it.
I just saw him driving a Eurus in Beverly Hills.
Looks good.
Yeah.
He's like, he's been just doing it forever.
He's been around for a long time.
He's just been doing it forever.
Good Burger wasn't yesterday.
God bless him.
Yeah.
He's been killing it for a long time.
He's really.
I saw him in a Lambo truck just smiling, happy.
Yeah.
He worried about the Ukraine.
Yeah.
He ain't thinking about it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, good for him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's not, nobody really thinks about it that much.
Well, I'm excited about all this new stuff
that's going to get made.
Now, Netflix is bouncing back.
They're kind of, maybe they're kind of going the other way
from what they were doing,
which was just really that woke kind of annoying stuff.
And they're going back to like,
kind of like glorifying cannibals today.
Yeah.
And that's what I think people want.
And I think that's what's going to save the day.
Like, I think finally you're looking at something
where people are like, finally,
I can sink my teeth into this, literally.
Finally, there's a protagonist I can identify with.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Finally, someone who represents us.
Sure.
The non-woke.
Jeffrey Dahmer.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm just happy about it.
I think that it's going back the other way.
I think that there's a pendulum swing.
I think that people are really getting interested
in real stories again, as opposed to garbage.
Yeah.
And the real stories, Jeffrey Dahmer's a real fucking story.
It did happen.
He's a real guy.
Whether you like him or not,
whether you think what he did is right or not,
we all have different opinions on that.
It's true.
It's subjective, really.
Whatever, no matter what you think about
how he was treated by the cops
or what his family dynamic was,
this is a real story that people can appreciate
and come to their own conclusions.
Right.
Initially, I think Netflix categorized it as an LGBTQ.
Is that true?
Yeah.
And then they got in trouble for that.
Well, it is LGBTQ.
But I think-
See, cannibal.
Right.
I think the community.
I think that community got upset about that.
They were like,
if you don't want this, we want bros.
I see what they're saying.
And the people said, we want not bros, we want that.
I see what they're saying,
but I go, you, I would not mind at all.
You put it back under LGBTQ
because it's the first good LGBTQ thing
really made in recent memory.
Yeah.
You have great things like the bird cage
and stuff from years ago,
but recently it's been a lot of crap.
Yeah.
Since broke back mountain.
Well, that Billy Eichner guy is this unlovable guy
running around screaming at people on the street.
He does a film.
It's a horror.
And nobody wants this.
So you're saying his movie was more of a horror
than Jeffrey Dahmer's.
Unquestionably.
Billy Eichner is a person
is so much more offensive than Jeffrey Dahmer in every way.
Right.
If you had to spend five minutes
with either Billy Eichner or Jeffrey Dahmer,
this self-important game show host
or Dom, the legend is a game show host.
It's not even a good game show.
And the guy's like,
the guy's screaming at straight people
from not going to see the movie.
How about everyone under 30 is gay.
If you go on the internet,
where are they at the movie?
He's just unlikable.
It's fine. It is what it is.
But compare him to Jeffrey Dahmer
who like it or not, isn't an instant.
Is an American institution.
Yeah.
Is a real story.
Is from the heartland.
Is salt of the earth.
Has made questionable choices.
Is someone who will be remembered
long after Billy Eichner has been forgotten
and Rose has been forgotten.
So if you're LGBTQ concerned at Netflix,
I'm going Dahmer all the way
as opposed to the other garbage.
Yeah.
Yeah, you're right.
Because it is an LGBTQ story.
Technically.
Because Ted Bundy was a straight serial killer.
He was a playboy.
There's tons of straight serial killers.
Obviously not all serial killers are gay.
But the ones that are, why not?
Let's get into that.
Let's get those stories told.
Let's get those stories told.
It's weird because I think we are,
we're almost done with the way we thought about things
for the last few years.
Very interesting.
It's folding in on itself.
I think people are tired of it.
It's over.
And the way to contextualize everything
is this overtly political, very dry,
box checking, categorical.
I think people are over that.
And I think people are now really gonna get comfortable
in the gray.
Yeah.
This is the gray area.
This is my prediction.
We're going back into the gray area.
And the Dahmer's a great example of that.
I think he, I would say he's,
I would say it's not so gray.
It's pretty gray.
I would say.
It's pretty gray.
Explain how it's not gray.
Well, cause he, he murdered people and he ate them.
But why do you like him?
Because.
That's what I mean.
I'm not saying that was right.
Right, right, right.
I'm not saying that's not great.
I'm saying Tony Soprano murdered people.
Did you like him?
Me personally.
Do you didn't like Tony Soprano?
Are you going to lie right now?
You fucking American university faggot.
I was more of an Edie Falco guy.
Oh, stop it.
Yeah.
I identified with her story.
You're already married.
Her struggle, her story.
But you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Why do you like Dahmer?
I like him because it was like,
what did his mother do to him?
The thing about him, what did his mother do to him?
I like, we like anyone who's in control of their own story.
Right.
This is true.
He took the reins.
We like anyone who's in control of their own story.
This is true.
And I know a lot of people are going to be,
they're going to misunderstand this.
But what I'm really saying here is that Jeffrey Dahmer,
do you want a world without Jeffrey Dahmer?
No.
And the reality is we don't.
I don't.
We don't.
We really don't want a world where
that we don't want to get eaten.
No.
And we don't want our friends to get eaten.
And it is unfortunate it was racially based.
No good.
Yeah.
But we don't want a world where
something about these monsters keeps us in line.
There's something about these people that we kind of like.
The randomness of it all, it feels,
there's something about, I don't even know what it is,
things that go bump in the night.
People that disappear.
There's some, we love horror movies.
We love being scared.
We love to scream.
There's something about it that keeps us in check.
Well, it's fear is fashion just the way morality
has become morality is fashion.
It's at a distance.
It's not happy to us.
It's a cool, safe thing to say,
you shouldn't walk act this way
when you're around these people
or you should walk in poor neighborhoods
and just feel safe.
And you can say that,
but doing that is a whole nother thing.
Just like saying or watching
or talking about Jeffrey Dahmer is one thing,
but then getting eaten by him is another.
Right.
No one wants to be eaten by Jeffrey Dahmer.
But also nobody wants.
That's presumptuous.
I'm sure there's some people out there.
There's some people out there.
Fucking sick Germany wants it.
But nobody wants to live in a world
where it's a complete impossibility
to get eaten by Jeffrey Dahmer.
Except for the people who he did eat.
They are not a fan.
That's true.
But they don't have a vote.
But they're out.
They don't have a vote.
But many of us like the idea
when we put our head to the pillow
that someone's getting eaten.
Well, here's the deal.
Some that's true.
He did eat people, yes.
But according to him, he was not a racist.
And he did not choose them because they were BIPOC.
Right.
So it was fun to watch Jeffrey Dahmer go,
hey, hey, I'm not a bad guy.
I hope there's so many Dahmer costumes this Halloween.
I hope people are not dissuaded.
I hope people stand up for their rights.
I hope people just tell the fucking people,
fuck you, I'm Jeffrey Dahmer.
Now, if you are dressed as Jeffrey Dahmer,
here's, I will just say this as sort of a safety warning
like they do on television.
Make sure the Halloween party you're going to
is 100% white.
It's gotta be white.
It's gotta be white.
It's gotta be a white party.
I do not want to show up at your black friend's party
as Jeffrey Dahmer.
It's gotta be white.
It's gotta be white.
It's gotta be a white Milwaukee party.
Yeah, you don't want.
I don't dress up.
You do maybe a family costume.
But I have not dressed up in years.
I don't really dress up.
Before I was married, I did not dress up.
Yeah, I just didn't.
I grew up throwing eggs and getting eggs thrown.
Yeah, that's kind of what we did in the suburbs.
I wasn't really a guy that dressed up.
But now you're trick-or-treating.
Now I'm awesome.
Yeah, now I'm just under the will of the autocrat
that is my wife.
I'm glad we figured out the Iran and Russia.
Yeah, the Persians.
They're Persian.
You're welcome, everybody.
They want to be referred to as Persian.
Yeah, well, you're welcome, everybody,
for figuring that out.
We figured that out.
We figured that out.
Yeah.
Great opportunity for the shampoo industry
to get in there.
Get in there.
And support the revolution.
Well, everything's going to be,
and I know that we make jokes about it,
but I think everything really is going to be
what company likes your cause
and what company can promote your cause.
Do they pitch causes like we pitch shows?
100%.
They go in there and they go Iranian Revolution?
100%.
They go, I have an idea.
There's a one-legged Palestinian girl
who throws the shop put.
There's 100%.
They go and they have meanings
and they try to remember Malala.
Yeah, I remember her.
They come and go.
Yeah, that was quick.
They come and go.
There's that one.
Remember Emma Gonzalez with the shaved head from Parkland?
Yes.
They come and go.
They come and go.
Ellion Gonzalez comes and goes.
Come and goes.
Elliot Page comes and goes.
Comes and goes.
Comes back.
And comes back.
And comes back.
Yeah, yeah.
By the way, wouldn't she be a perfect Joan of Arc
if they make that movie?
He.
Sorry.
He.
He would absolutely,
they would be a great Joan of Arc
no matter what gender they identified as
and I would support it and see it.
Yeah.
I would see it if he is not cast as Joan of Arc.
It's a criminal.
It'll be criminal and it'll be a problem.
It's, well, is Joan of Arc gonna happen?
Well, the whole thing is that there was a big movement
that she's trans.
I mean, sorry.
He's trans.
Who's he?
Joan of Arc was a guy.
Is that what they're saying?
Yeah, they're mad because they don't want Joan of Arc
to be portrayed as a woman because they're saying
he was a he and he wanted, he was one of the first.
It makes sense.
It makes sense.
It makes sense.
So they don't want people talking about Joan of Arc anymore
as a she because it was clear
that she was trans.
Joan of Arc is a he.
Is a he.
Okay.
That was a big thing in the news recently.
Joan of Arc.
Joan of Arc was a, also a she.
Was a she.
Abraham Lincoln was gay.
Abraham Lincoln was also a vampire killer.
Is that true?
Yeah.
According to the movie.
Oh, yeah.
Well, listen, folks, where can people find you
and all the things you're doing?
You can find me on parlor.
The Greek church.
You can find me at the Greek church.
You can find me on parlor.
You can find me on only fans.
Parlor.
That's such a great dichotomy.
You can see me on true social, parlor, only fans.
The conservative media landscape with the new apps is wild.
They just eat each other.
They're interested.
Yeah.
I can't wait to win Kanye buys it.
What he does with it.
He's buying parlor.
Will they let him buy it?
Of course they're gonna let him buy it.
Are they gonna let the guy that owns the app
scream about the Jews?
Parlor don't care.
Yeah.
Parlor.
Yeah, who owns parlor now?
Parlor's like a fun, like you're at the parlor
with a bunch of guys.
Who found?
It's like Steve Bannon's, right?
No idea.
He needs somebody to watch it while he's in prison.
Yeah.
He's going away for a couple of months.
I can't imagine that they, that Kanye's gonna
be able to just buy it.
Well, according, they have a deal on paper, I think.
Yeah.
Who's excited about that?
Even executives of parlor have to go,
like who's really excited about an upcoming business deal.
Like we said, I think.
With Kanye West.
The idea is gonna, is more sexy even to Kanye
than the execution.
Yeah.
Cause once he gets on there, nobody really.
It's Musk with Twitter.
He's like, I'll save Twitter.
It's like, you're not gonna save Twitter.
Twitter had a moment.
Yeah.
But Twitter's moments over.
Like everything else.
Like Twitter had a moment.
It was really dying before Trump.
Trump brought it back.
Everything then was the result of a,
all trickle down from Trump on Twitter.
Right.
Everything, everything I did, everything anyone did.
Whether it was a video or a tweet,
it always kind of in this universe created by the fact
that you had this crazy wild guy on Twitter, Donald Trump.
Once he's gone, even if he comes back,
the moments over Twitter itself seems to not carry
as much social weight as it used to.
He is really sort of the Frankenstein of our culture.
Yes.
I mean, you know, it's ironic that Hollywood hates him
so much cause they created him.
Well, they made him.
What's amazing about him to me is he's indefatigable.
He's a star.
He won't stop.
Yeah.
He won't stop.
There's no signs of stopping.
Well, because.
And his people don't care.
No.
But they throw at him.
No.
Documents.
He had the fucking new codes and the buffet at Mar-a-Lago.
None of it matters.
No.
I think it's because.
They also want, a lot of his people want the world to end.
Yeah.
They're ready.
They're ready for the fight.
They're ready for the rapture.
They're ready.
So anything where people go,
yeah, he's going to, he'll destroy the world.
They go, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
At least, but we want to win.
Yeah.
I think he just knows what America's about.
He's like, I don't care whether I'm right or wrong.
But I did what's true or not.
I don't care as long as I'm there.
As long as I'm wild, the media will cover.
He knows the media.
He knows about what he's just made a great point.
He knows what America's about.
He knows what America's about.
And it's like, as long as I'm there.
Yeah.
And I'm wild.
Hey, look, you could even chop up and eat
a whole bunch of people.
Yeah.
America will make you a star.
You're going to be a star.
You're a star.
And people are going to want to dress up as you.
Yeah, because you rose above the rest.
Yes.
And did something.
And you did something.
And that's why it's not so easy to just say,
oh, we shouldn't glorify someone like Jeffrey Dahmer
because no matter what you do,
inevitably he's going to be glorified no matter what you do.
It's what we're interested in.
And that's what I hope people don't lose that
because it's really, it's a beautiful story
with some not so nice parts.
I mean, what's the difference between Jeffrey Dahmer
and like a guy who kills one person
unevently compared to Jeffrey Dahmer?
I'll tell you the difference.
The difference is lack of grind.
The difference is Netflix.
Right.
Yannis Pappas, everybody, where can they get tickets?
Just go to yannispappascomedy.com.
I'll be in Austin.
No.
Yeah, I'll be in Austin.
Lucky.
I'm going to Republican Hollywood.
Lucky.
November 11th and 12th.
Are you going to swim in the lake?
I'm going to swim in the lake.
Yeah.
I'm going to try to go and get a bacteria in my vagina.
Yeah.
So I'll be there and then Detroit and Chicago.
I'll be there.
November 11th and 12th.
Nice.
Yeah.
So get tickets for that.
Tickets just sound pretty well for Austin.
Thank you guys.
And yeah, go listen to my podcast, Long Days.
Go see Yannis Pappas, listen to his podcast, Long Days.
We'll see everybody soon.
We're here in New York.
We'll be back in LA next week.
Thank you.
Good night.