The Tim Dillon Show - 320 - Dahmer (ft. Yannis Pappas)

Episode Date: October 23, 2022

Dahmer | The Tim Dillon Show #320 (ft. Yannis Pappas) - Tim Dillon & Yannis Pappas discuss the fetishization of Jeffrey Dahmer, monetization of Volodymyr Zelenskyy, radicalization of Kanye West, ...& much more Merch: https://store.timdilloncomedy.com/ For every $400,000 we gross in revenue, we are donating five dollars to end homelessness in Los Angeles. We are challenging other creators to do the same. #TimGivesBack Bonus episodes: https://www.patreon.com/thetimdillonshow Netflix special: https://www.netflix.com/watch/81616382 SPONSORS: BETTERHELP ▶▶ https://www.betterhelp.com/TIMD for 10% off first month DOORDASH: ▶▶ enter code: TIMDILLON for 50% off up to $20 MEUNDIES ▶▶ https://www.meundies.com/TIM for 20% off ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ 𝐆𝐄𝐓 𝐂𝐎𝐍𝐍𝐄𝐂𝐓𝐄𝐃: 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/timjdillon/ 🐦 Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/TimJDillon 🌍 Tim Dillon Live Dates!: http://timdilloncomedy.com/#shows 📹 Subscribe to the channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4woSp8ITBoYDmjkukhEhxg Listen on Spotify! https://open.spotify.com/show/2gRd1woKiAazAKPWPkHjds #TheTimDillonShow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Tim Dillon Show live from the greatest city in the world, Nashville, Tennessee. Here with the voice of country music, Giannis Papas, old friend of mine. Are you watching Dahmer on Netflix? Man, I haven't watched it, but I just want to say hello to my fans and Trump 2024 everybody.
Starting point is 00:00:19 Yeah, isn't it, that is a great archetype of person. Be like that sweet country guy who just talks about his fan, like I love all my fans because you see them on social media. And it's another, it's one of the many people I wish I could be. Yeah, they're very nice and kind in the South and because the other side is just violent racism.
Starting point is 00:00:42 Hey, y'all, I love my fans. I love y'all, thank y'all for supporting me and being there for me and it's just a nice, you know, it's my daughter and they hold up their daughter. They're like, this is my special girl, you know. And then the camera goes off and they go, you know, Kanye West has a little bit of a point. I'm confused cause you know.
Starting point is 00:01:02 I like that he's speaking out. I might not agree with everything, but I like that he's talking. But most, most of it. This Dahmer thing is huge because it is very hot. It's this guy who is just taking advantage of people. He is bringing them home, he's getting it done. It is hot.
Starting point is 00:01:22 Didn't he do them a little bit of a favor though? They're in Milwaukee. It's a good way to exit Milwaukee. The deal is everybody is kink shaming him because we live in a cis-het nightmare, but this is a guy who early on, his kinks were like taking pigs home from biology and dissecting them in his room.
Starting point is 00:01:44 And that evolved into people and, but he's cool. You know, the thing does kind of like Dahmer's dad is suing Netflix for glorifying his son. This is true. Yeah. Because it is cool when you look at the thing, when you're watching it, you're like Dahmer's kind of hot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:05 He's kind of cool. He does some things we don't agree with, but overall. Who doesn't? Who doesn't? Who doesn't? Overall, he's a likeable, hot dude who's like, just on the journey of like getting his confidence
Starting point is 00:02:23 and people want to be him for Halloween. This is how much it succeeded. People want to be Dahmer for Halloween. And now Amazon has stopped selling the Dahmer costumes because Simone Biles, among others, the gymnast who couldn't perform because she was sad. The one who dropped out of the Olympics, she is like telling everybody,
Starting point is 00:02:48 don't you dare come showing up as Dahmer. Cause he did kill a lot of young men and boys of color. Yeah, but not, you know, the person showing up as Dahmer didn't. That's always lost. It's just a costume party. Yeah. That's always lost on people.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Yeah. I mean, you know, what's the big deal? Yeah. I mean, if Prince, what's his name? Prince Andrew, what's his name? The one who's married to Meghan Merkel. Harry. The bimbo.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Andrew's the pedo. Yeah. If Harry came to my costume party and he was dressed as Adolf, I'm not stopping the party. I'm not telling him to change costume. He's not Adolf. It's insensitive, yes,
Starting point is 00:03:28 but I don't invite Jews to my parties. The point is, and how do you get away with that? New York, they get in anyway. You do it. You do it with a DNA test at the door. You do it with a very, you say it's COVID, but it's really. You drop a little money on the floor if they chase it, you kick them out.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Well, that's edited out, huh? Adidas won't be doing your shoe. No, you just, yeah, I take off the hat, check for horns, none, go. Does he come back from this Kanye? Probably not, right? This is, now this is too far. He's gone a little too far.
Starting point is 00:03:56 That's why I'm enjoying it, because he doesn't want to come back. Yeah, that is the most fun to watch. I mean, we've seen the kind of things, and then people apologize. Yeah. He's so avant-garde. He's like, I'm not doing the apology.
Starting point is 00:04:08 He's going, y'all gonna have to kill me. That's right. He's go, Jews, people gonna have to kill me. And if you kill me, guess what? There'll be another Kanye, born in another ghetto in Chicago, saved the same shit, and we gotta meet two of these Jews.
Starting point is 00:04:20 What do you do to someone who's at that point? Kill him. In there, there's not much else you can do, right? You gotta take him out. Because he's having such a public meltdown, and he has so many fans and so many followers. We're, of course, obviously, it needs not, to be said, are not advocating this,
Starting point is 00:04:40 but there's gotta be people going, like, he's a problem. Yeah, but do you think they're going, he's a problem, or he's so out there that it's not a problem? Well, it's not that he's a problem, like, in the sense that he's going to, like, galvanize people against the Jews. Right. I just mean he's a problem, like,
Starting point is 00:05:01 how bad does this get publicly? How, when does he stop getting the platforms? Maybe this is it, right? Like, when does he stop getting massive mainstream attention? When does that go away? When do they go, okay, yes, we want the views, yes, we want the clicks, but he's going too far.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Yeah. Is it flat earth? Like, what stop on the train is when they pull back? Well, that's a, you don't wanna do that analogy here. Stop on the train. Right, I don't even, yeah, I wasn't even thinking about that. Stop on the boat. Stop on the boat.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Yeah, I think as soon as he buys Parler, and he starts, he starts voicing his opinions on Parler. Cause I think that's what you do now, is you just, you say something crazy, and then you just, as a billionaire, and then you buy a conservative social media site, and then nobody cares anymore. You're gonna have to have a billion dollars just to speak.
Starting point is 00:06:01 And you know what, he's not even gonna enjoy Parler. What he enjoys, he's an attention guy. Right. So he likes shocking people. But when he goes on Parler, after he buys Parler, and he's like, Jews run the world, and everyone's going, this is no fun. No, that's an echo chamber.
Starting point is 00:06:20 And that's what you're gonna need. You're gonna need a couple of billion to really get wild. Like, we used to be able to get wild after a few drinks, and you still can at the local pub. But if you wanna get wild publicly now, you're gonna have to have billions of dollars. You do have to have billions of dollars. You're gonna have to buy an app
Starting point is 00:06:38 that will allow you to be racist. Yeah. You have to purchase, you have to have a company. Now, you used to be able to just be racist. Now you have to have a company with, like, secretaries and executives and ad sales people. You're gonna have to have a monetization strategy just to go out and be racist.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Yeah, yeah. That's the level we're at. There's no more poor racism anymore. Racism is gonna cost you. Yeah, it's gonna cost you a lot of money. And paranoia is gonna cost you. Alex Jones, $965 billion for Sandy Hook. Yeah, I just can't, I don't understand
Starting point is 00:07:13 why they're trying to stop all the entertainment. I mean, how much are those kids worth? I mean, you could have killed me for nothing. Yeah. Yeah, he doesn't have it to pay it. No one has, it's a symbolic number. Nobody can really pay that in the media sphere, right? It's a symbolic number.
Starting point is 00:07:33 It's just to kind of get people to shut up. Yeah, it's kind of when they give somebody multiple life sentences, you're going like, all right, I guess when I have multiple lives, you know. Right. How is this even relevant to me? It'll matter, it's symbolic. I'm not Hindu, this isn't relevant to me.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Do you remember when Dahmer got popped? Cause you've been around. Yeah, I'm 80. So when Dahmer got popped, do you remember this being a big deal? Was this a media circus? It was a media circus. Yeah, we love serial killers.
Starting point is 00:08:01 It's almost unfortunate that they've been kind of put out of business by DNA and the surveillance state. Well, serial killers now just go on parlor. They go on parlor. No, they never get to the actual hard work of stalking and killing. They just pop off. Well, we have, I think they mutated into school shooters.
Starting point is 00:08:22 That's the new incarnation of- Oh, interesting. Is that your theory? Yeah, because you know, it's like, we make them stars. Right. You know, someone's gonna wanna walk down that red carpet. That's right. Of blood.
Starting point is 00:08:35 And it's somebody who can get the, you know, it's kind of an immediate result. Immediate. Overnight, as opposed to a serial killer who has to go through this process for a very long time. You don't have to do Conan. You don't have to do a half hour. You go straight to fame.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Yeah, what are the true crime podcasts gonna do? Cause we know all these sick bitches who love, they just love the idea of people getting stalked and killed. And they talk about it endlessly and they make the families relive all this trauma. My favorite murder, George and Karen, all the time they won't stop.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Even when the families ask them to stop, they're like, please, we don't need this. They do kind of exactly what Alex Jones did, which is they get everybody revved up to like, crack, let's crack the cold case. Right. What are they gonna talk about now that serial killers are done?
Starting point is 00:09:25 How are they going to manipulate people's trauma and grief for ad sales? They're just gonna have to go to war crimes podcasts. That might be interesting. Yeah, they're just little war crimes podcasts. But that's not cool, cause that's not sexy enough. Like they really want, it's like a woman who was jogging alone or a woman who went on two dates with a guy
Starting point is 00:09:45 and then ended up in a trunk. Like they really like that type of, cause the women listening are usually women who are in desperate need of that their dream is to get raped and killed. The women listening to those podcasts, their dream is to have someone love them enough to stalk, rape and kill them.
Starting point is 00:10:05 That is all they want. All they want to do is hear that window slide in the middle of the night. And they get, they start like, ooh, and they want somebody to run up and chloroform them. And no one that night after night, nobody does. It's another empty, it's another trip to the fridge at 2 30 in the morning with no chloroform.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Nobody's trying to kill you. Nobody cares. But that's what they, that's what they like those podcasts so much. Yeah, you're right. Most, most women live. Most women just live. That's right.
Starting point is 00:10:37 About ignored. Ignored. Ignored. Yeah. Ignored. So when people see Dommer and when I watch Dommer, what's so interesting? Maybe the ladies feel left out.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Maybe because he was only focusing on gays. Subconsciously, the ladies are like upset. Well, also some of the ladies are like, psh. So what? This is being a woman every day, you know? Cause that's the new attitude. Like they're like, psh. Getting eaten, chased by cannibals.
Starting point is 00:11:02 That's being a woman. 24 Seth. That's what it's like to be a woman. Oh, finally. Oh, is it disturbing that a cannibal's drugging and eating you? How about you try being a woman for literally 15 minutes? Try being a woman that has an idea in a meeting
Starting point is 00:11:20 full of men for literally 15 minutes. It is essentially having your liver eaten by a cannibal in Milwaukee. That is also part of some of the attitude I see now. Yeah, I know. Like it's not such a huge deal. It's tough. It's really tough in America.
Starting point is 00:11:33 It is disturbing to watch though, because he brings these guys up to his thing and he drugs them and they're like, trying to get out and they're stumbling around. I mean, you know, it's a little bit of a Halloween episode. Here I have the great pumpkin on and you're dressed like some type of costume, but this is your real thing.
Starting point is 00:11:49 You know, I don't know what this is, Danny Zuko. I don't know what you're doing or what the point of it is, but whatever it is. It's called the Rested Development. I should have on khakis and- No idea. Merrell shoes and glasses. Yeah, you live in this beautiful thing
Starting point is 00:12:04 of this beautiful family and you're out here dressed like, I don't even know, you've got money on the street or some of your collecting numbers, but some people meet a very bad end in America. Yeah. And that's what I thought about watching Dahmer. I said, some people meet a very, very bad end. And I don't mean like some of our friends
Starting point is 00:12:23 where they're just accused of rape after a pretty good career. I mean, like a bad end, like they go out one night and it just doesn't, they think it goes, gonna go one way and it goes the other way. Yeah, but it's rare. I mean, you know, if you get selected, there is some sort of,
Starting point is 00:12:41 you should sort of feel special a little bit. You were selected. It's a rare selection. It's a small club that gets eaten by Jeffrey Dahmer. Do you know any- Most people in Milwaukee just fucking eat mayonnaise and die of diabetes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:54 They don't make the movies. Do you know anyone that this has happened to or something cool? Do you know anyone who's left the planet in a way that's a little cool? Well, we both do. I wouldn't say it was cool, but horrific. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:13:09 Oh, yeah. Okay, yeah. Yeah, well, we're not gonna- Yeah, that's not cool. No, that's not what I mean. Yeah. Especially since the restaurant's been discombobulated since.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Yeah, yeah. Well, that's great. I mean, that's random. Yeah. Kind of. But I mean, like, I don't know. Anyone you grew up with, they ended up getting murdered? Yeah, let me just sift through my brain
Starting point is 00:13:31 to see if I know anyone who's- We knew a guy who'd been eaten. Killed a girl under a bridge, but we didn't really know him and we didn't really know her. But it was in my town, but we didn't know either of them. But people I knew had met them.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Yeah. It's real, not really a great, but I'm just saying, I don't know because you grew up in Brooklyn, you have this whole story, but you wonder if anybody- I can't think of anyone who's been eaten. Yeah, well, not eaten,
Starting point is 00:13:57 but just killed by a serial killer. What is your, what if you, what's your fear that's like a horror movie fear? You personally, not your family, nothing. I mean, just like you. What was your fear when you were younger, when you were growing up? I mean, you've been shot, right?
Starting point is 00:14:14 So you kind of, you've been there, but what was the thing that really got you scared? Or as a white man, does nothing scare you? Would nothing scare you? It's a pretty smooth flight. Right. I gotta say it's a smooth, not a lot of turbulence. It's a pretty smooth flight.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Well, that scares me, airplanes. Airplanes are scary. I get scared because I'm not in control. Yeah. No, but I was always scared of being killed. Yeah. You know, cause there was just like robbers and killers everywhere.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Right. Yeah. So you just growing up in New York at the time was not fun. There's something at the Midwest where I've been there. I've performed in these places, Milwaukee, Omaha, all these. And there's something about it that is oddly occult. Right. It feels evil.
Starting point is 00:14:59 It feels like there's underground things going on. It feels like the people there, there's more than, more to them than meets the eye, that there's some like strange things happening. Cult, cult like. Well, they're also. Bacon ties. They're also Germanic.
Starting point is 00:15:17 There's a lot of Germanic people. Yeah. But there's Germanic people everywhere. I know, but the Germanic people have it in them. Yeah. You watch their porn, you look at their history, you perform comedy for them. They're very cerebral, they're very rational,
Starting point is 00:15:31 but that also leads to rationalization. They're missing a little piece of humanity. I think that's what happened in World War II. I think they were going like, finally someone, someone gave us a purpose. They want to do it. They want to do it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:46 The Germans want to do it. They want to do it. They want to do it. By it, you mean the Holocaust. That's exactly, I didn't want to say it. I don't want to get demonetized for you. But yeah, they want, they have a thing in them where, it's like, it's in there.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Like I have a gaugey. I'm Greek, like I can unlock it. If I go to prison, I'll pick it up. It's in there culturally through generations. The Germans have the Irish with booze. Exactly, you unlock it. Yeah. Like if you're Irish and you have a drink,
Starting point is 00:16:13 there's a good chance you might have another, and then have another, and then your wife's on the floor. Yeah, with the Germans, you hit one, you hit one slob. Next thing you know, it just opens the door and you want to just kill them all. When, you know, this idea that people shouldn't go dressed up as a character like Jeffrey Dahmer to Halloween. Is this something you subscribe to?
Starting point is 00:16:38 Do you, when you have a child, are you going to really be heavily involved in the decisions? Are you going to be like the type of like helicopter parent who goes, hey, this is appropriate, this is not? Well, if it's a kid's Halloween party, you really shouldn't show up as Jeffrey Dahmer.
Starting point is 00:16:52 But that's a fun, if you brought a kid dressed as Jeffrey Dahmer, that's kind of fun. It's funny, yeah, it's a little funny. That's funny, yeah. No, I think the Halloween party should, that's your time to, you know what I was when I was a kid for Halloween? A serial killer. Generic one?
Starting point is 00:17:10 Generic, here's what I did. I took a big, my aunt made me a box and we put all kinds of lucky charms on it and we glued them to the box and I ate them during trick or treating. I would just eat them off my thing and almost get sick as they were covered in glue. I just wanted to be a carbohydrate for Halloween,
Starting point is 00:17:26 but I was a serial killer. It was a fun way to be a dark thing that's fun. Right, I could see, yeah. Well now I just like, whatever my wife gets me as a costume on Amazon, that's what I'm gonna be. I think I'm gonna be a bubble guppy or something like that. When you have a kid, you just are pulled into that world and you just start doing kid stuff.
Starting point is 00:17:46 I know. And it's a family costume. It's a family costume. It's a family costume. Yeah, she's one person in it, I'm the other one and I'm the other one. Yeah, it's weird if like a single guy shows up to a family Halloween as a baby costume.
Starting point is 00:17:58 I would actually almost be more comfortable if he was Jeffrey Dahmer than say like, I don't know, the guy from Frozen. Because you're going like, why do you know about Frozen? Yeah, the only people who should know about Frozen should have kids. If you don't have kids, you know about Frozen. I know better because my cousin wrote the fucking music to it.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Well, there you have it. Fucking two egotts. What are you gonna do? Yeah, but if you're just a guy who knows children stuff, you're going like. It's strange. Strange. It's strange.
Starting point is 00:18:24 I'm only three or four episodes into the Dahmer thing, but it's like, it's really interesting how somebody grows up to be a cannibal. This is something that's really interesting because it is this weird psychosexual thing that happens in your head. You don't know how it had like the mother was very weird and she was very naggy and anxious
Starting point is 00:18:47 and the dad was a little nuts. But how do you create a cannibal? It's so difficult. Can our producer here for the moment get up any information on like, how are cannibals created? Yeah, well, they said he had something that's, I can't remember the medical term for it,
Starting point is 00:19:04 but he was attracted to the shiny, the shininess of the organs. Like there's some, there's actually a term for it where people are attracted to shiny stuff and they believe it's like evolutionary somehow. Well, this is very interesting. I never even thought organs were shiny. Yeah, when you pull them out, they glean a little bit.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Really? Yeah, they don't, it's not like the same as bling, but they have a glean to them. Interesting. And he was kind of drawn to that. He was drawn to that, they say. That was his sexual orientation. Is that the worst nightmare to raise a child who's a cannibal?
Starting point is 00:19:35 Yeah, I'd say so. Cause when they sit Dahmer's dad down and they're like, he's gay. And then Dahmer's dad's like, oh no. And then they're like, hold on. I just liked the way they did the family apology very Midwestern too. Oh dad, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:19:48 And he's like, I love your son. I mean, if my dad found out I was eating people, he would say that's not my son. Kill him, shoot him. Son, I love your son. It's okay. Well, you know, that's what I mean, but there's something going on out there
Starting point is 00:20:03 where people go, that's just something that happens. Yeah. It's not, it's completely out of the realm of possibility because life is so mind numbingly boring out there. That's what it is. It's cornfields, it's mind numbingly boring. People's inner lives can get away from them out there. And some people are thinking about like,
Starting point is 00:20:23 what if instead of eating a steak, I eat a person? Yeah. Try something different tonight. That's why I think- How many times can you go to Red Lobster anyway? How many times? And I think that that's part of what makes that area so interesting is that there's a monotony,
Starting point is 00:20:37 there's a monotony of life everywhere, but out there it's so plain and the scenery is so plain and so vast that people's minds start playing tricks with them and they start going like, maybe I will try to do something. Yeah, I think you gotta be a psychopath. I think you're born, I don't think there's any level of bad nurture
Starting point is 00:20:58 that makes you wanna eat somebody. I think you're born with like a bad brain. It's like you just have no empathy, you're very calculated, you're very premeditated. I mean, look at the way he did it. He chose certain people he knew. He chose people he knew cops would look the other way if they found them on the street naked
Starting point is 00:21:17 with a bleeding anus and a hole in their head. Right. Have you gotten to that scene yet? I have. I mean, what is the test to be a cop? I mean, back then? Is there a chapter on there that says, hey, if a guy's, he's barely conscious,
Starting point is 00:21:34 his asshole's bleeding, he's naked in the street and there happens to be a drilled hole in his head. You may not wanna just peruse the scene and leave. But you know what it is, it really does go back to the idea that Dahmer was like this Midwestern white guy and they felt kinda like bad from, they'd say things like, what do you do in living here?
Starting point is 00:21:52 Yeah. Like these are all drug addicts, why are you here? And more often than not, they looked the other way. You know, he gave him the excuse, he was pulled over. He's like, yeah, you know, my parents got divorced, he's been kind of a tough time. They're like, ah, everybody goes through stuff. And it was homophobic.
Starting point is 00:22:07 There was homophobia involved in this. Yes, homophobic too. I think they were just like, whoa, I don't wanna see the picture. Whatever you guys are doing, this isn't how you gays do it. I wanna get out of here, yeah. I don't wanna get AIDS from walking in the apartment. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:18 There was a lot of that that he used to his advantage. He was kind of a very smart guy. That's what I'm saying. He was sharp. Psychopathic, like premeditated. He selected his victims, you can tell for that purpose. You know, he was dissecting them. I mean, at least he could, you know, knew 101 anatomy.
Starting point is 00:22:35 He could pass an entry level class in anatomy. He knew where a liver was. No, he knew a lot of stuff. I mean, again, it's one of those guys where it's like you watch this thing, you're trying to hate him, it's hard. Good job, Netflix. It's very difficult to hate him here.
Starting point is 00:22:52 I'm telling you, you watch other things and it's easy to hate the person. There's something tough here because you're like, he's experiencing so many things that are running through his head, you can't hate him. Yeah, they portrayed him as sort of a lonely. A loner. His mom was mean to him.
Starting point is 00:23:10 He's figuring it out. Yeah, coming of age story. That's what it feels like. It feels like a coming of age story. It's like a fun, gay, coming of age story. He's got his shirt off all the time and occasionally he eats someone's kidney. It's not, it's sexy.
Starting point is 00:23:24 It's kind of fun. It's like Netflix was like, let's make something hot. Yeah. And let's make something fun. It's like a young adult YA movie with cannibalism. Well, it's so unlike the entertainment industry in Hollywood to make something like this. It's really not their modus operandi.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Usually they take those things into consideration. They don't want to be exploitative. They don't. They're so good usually. They usually, I mean, what are they? They're so sweet. I think they waited, what, like five or six weeks before the first 9-11 movie.
Starting point is 00:23:58 Yeah. So I mean, they're usually more sensitive about these things. No, it was, but watching it, I do understand now why the domers are like, dude, you're glorifying my son because I'm like, he's kind of like an anti-hero. Yeah. In this thing. It's like Batman in the new Batman.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Yeah. It's like Tony Soprano, Walter White, Jeff Dahmer. You want him to win. You don't want him to get caught. You know, when the cops get him, you have this weird feeling. You're like, I don't really want him to get caught. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:29 I want him to keep doing what he has to do. Yeah. You know, it's funny because he, psychopaths, lie all the time. Yes. So it's almost like Hollywood made the movie that he would have liked. Yes.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Portraying the version of himself that he created after he got caught. But then you hear stories about him in jail and how he used to, like, he would, you know, he would, you know, chastise people by making his food look like organs and make noises and stuff like that. He would, you know, he's not, he's not a nice guy.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Oh, interesting. But I didn't know that. He seems in this movie kind of just like ripped. He would taunt people. Yeah. Oh, but he seems like more ripped in this and like kind of like just figuring out who he is in the world and it's not easy for a young man
Starting point is 00:25:22 at any age to figure it out. That's what I get. Yeah. That's what I think Netflix's intent is. And I'm like, fully on board with that. Where I watch it and I go, this is a guy who's really coming into his own. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:37 That's what it feels like to me. Coming of age. Yeah. Yeah, totally. He's coming into his own. Oh yeah, I mean, you know, they portray. Can it be hot? Is it okay for it to be attractive?
Starting point is 00:25:47 I mean, is it okay for an attractive guy to be lifting weights and be attractive even though he's maybe killing people? It was very hot until he hit him with the dumbbell. Well, but even that, there's an element there of hotness. Because he's taking back his, I don't even know what the word is, but he's like taking the narrative back.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Well, the guy rejected him. The guy's like, I'm not like that. The guy's like very like straight, toxic. And also homophobic and then he's like an LGBTQ hero that comes in and smashes homophobia. And he wasn't trying to kill him, he was just trying to subdue him. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Yeah. And that's what I like is that Netflix's version of the show kind of is sympathetic to his version of events. I feel like maybe they let Weinstein like produce this on the low. Could be, yeah. It feels like with things that are getting good again,
Starting point is 00:26:46 it feels like the Me Too crew's coming back. Yeah. Because this is exactly what something should be. You're like, am I horrified? Am I aroused? This is where good movies live. Am I accountable? This is what you want people saying to themselves
Starting point is 00:27:02 in the suburbs while they watch this and eat Panera. Yeah. You want to confuse people. And this is what movies used to do before everything was like, this is right and this is wrong. Right. Now it's like, oh my God, it's a big gray area.
Starting point is 00:27:17 What's going on? Yeah. They definitely were sympathetic to his version of what happened. The two instances I'm thinking about is the one murder in the hotel room. He goes, I don't remember. I don't remember.
Starting point is 00:27:30 I just woke up and he was beaten to death. Yeah. And I don't remember. And then the other one where he hit the guy with the dumbbell, he goes, I didn't mean to hurt him. I didn't mean to hurt him. I was just trying to, you know, wake him up
Starting point is 00:27:43 with the dumbbell to the face. Right. And they're going like, I guess he's telling the truth. Yeah. I guess that's, because that's the version in the show where it's like, that's not true at all. He beat that guy to death in the hotel room because he's a psychopath.
Starting point is 00:27:54 And then he smashed that guy in the head because he couldn't wait to get to the dead body part. He didn't like having sex with live people because they moved. He didn't like people moving. It's such an odd, fetish necrophilia. Well, people can be a drag with their needs and their wants. It's a great point.
Starting point is 00:28:11 Really, they can. It's a great point. Yeah. It's a very, and you know what? It's not made enough. You know? It's like you want something. Well, they look back at podcasting one day as this insane.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Like, I wonder how they look back at all this. Like, well, they make a Dahmer movie but about this. Like, well, they just look back and go, there was a point in our history where people just talk for hours and hours and hours endlessly with no facts, really nothing to back any of it up.
Starting point is 00:28:39 At best case, they guessed about things. Worst case, they completely made it up. They were everybody from comedians to fucking journalists to writers to just common street people. And they would just get on the microphone and just pontificate about things, knowing nothing about them. You wonder if at some point they look back on this
Starting point is 00:29:00 and they go, that was Dahmer-esque. Like, do they look back on this and go like, there's endless, endless hours of these fucking idiots talk. Like, will they make a movie about this? Like, called like podcast, where it's just like people years from now are so fed up with this medium.
Starting point is 00:29:19 It's become so cringe to them. Like the idea of like guys in headphones sitting in front of a microphone makes people as sick as Dahmer eating someone. I think as long as people are gonna be driving in cars or working out, they'll be something they'll wanna listen to. Yeah, I mean, I guess.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Don't know if it's gonna be the Water Guys podcast. This guy came and did my water. And he was like, do you mind if I do a little video? And I was like, what? And he was like, you know, my boss is 55, he doesn't get it. And they just turns the camera on. He's like, okay guys, what you see there is a bypass valve and what's going on.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Another satisfied customer. And he started making content. But there's guys we just talked about on Patreon. People making money, if you work at like a job like Cold Stone Creamery and you start making TikToks, you could build millions and millions of followers when one kid opened up his own ice cream shop. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:10 So it can happen. It can happen. Everybody now has a little bit of a chance of transcending this hellscape with something they do. By accident. Yeah. Only good things now that you can do are kind of by accident.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Well, if you want everyone caught up in that casino, you gotta elevate one or two as an example. Somebody's gotta pop. So you're like, look, the water guy made it. Yes. And so then that keeps everybody. It keeps everybody going. On TikTok, so then the CCP can find out
Starting point is 00:30:40 all your information. What do you think is gonna, you think, you think we're, do you think someone's gonna detonate a nuke in, do you think Putin's gonna. I hope so. Detonate something. I hope so. I just feel a little bit like enough already.
Starting point is 00:30:53 Come on. Yeah, it's getting boring. Do it. Yeah. Do it, pussy. Doesn't it feel a little bit like that? It almost kind of feels like the Trump is gonna get indicted thing.
Starting point is 00:31:04 You're like, when? Right. This has been going on forever. Yeah, it's just, it's the lag. Yeah. There's lags forever. Get to it. Get to it.
Starting point is 00:31:12 We don't have that type of attention span anymore. Nuke it or lock them up, do something, but stop, or stop talking about it. Yeah. I'm kind of upset when they just can't stop discussing it. I'm like, I just want some, I want some progress. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:28 I want some progress. Right. You guys have not gotten past the idea stage. There's gotta be some progress. Does Zelinsky make it out of this alive? Yeah. He does. I think he does.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Do you know he's selling a book of his speeches? Is he gonna go on tour with Michelle Obama? Zelinsky's, I thought you were gonna say Michelle Wolf. Zelinsky is selling. Yeah. Zelinsky is selling a book of his wartime speeches. So that's what he's focused on now. That's where he's at.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Who's he repped by? Yeah, I don't know. CAA? I don't know. I see him. And by the way, how good are these speeches that there needs to be a book? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:08 In the middle of the war. Yeah. The war has not been won. Right, no. There is no, in fact, there's no real off ramps to the war. It seems like we're going towards nuclear annihilation. Right. So these speeches that are so magical,
Starting point is 00:32:24 I don't know what they've inspired, except a continued march towards total and all out war. Well, that may be some of the back channel negotiations with Putin being like, hey man, just let me get my book out. Yeah. We just wanna put out some speeches. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:39 And then you can do whatever you want. Do what you want. Yeah, do what you want. It's boring and I feel like I, you know, would like to see some resolution, hopefully a peaceful resolution, but if not, then nuke. It's going on too long like the Irishman.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Yeah. It could be edited. Yeah. Yeah, it needs an editor of this war at this point. I almost sort of going, I was in Romania, I almost sort of going to the Ukraine. You were gonna get tickets? I was gonna go to the Ukraine and go,
Starting point is 00:33:05 is it even happening here? Yeah. But then people said it is, they 30% of their infrastructure is done. So they said, okay. Like he's hitting them hard. Water, power, they don't have Wi-Fi. Putin's hitting them now.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Yeah, he's hitting them. He's hitting them hard. He's hitting them. He's hitting them with the artillery. Right, it could be Iranian drones or it could be his own drones. All I know is our media is telling us it's Iranian drones. Whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Yeah, we don't know. Well, cause there was that whole thing in Iran where, and I don't know what that was, but everyone was posting about it. That woman in Iran, something happened to her and that was sad. Are you talking about the revolution happening over there?
Starting point is 00:33:46 Yeah. Yeah, that's kind of dragging on too. What is it? She had a cloak on and she said, I don't want to do it today. Yeah, I mean, she had the Hajj. I always pronounce it wrong. Hajjib.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Hajjab. Hajjab. Hijab. Hijab on. Yeah. She had the job on and... Oh, she didn't have it on. What?
Starting point is 00:34:06 She took it off. She took it off. And that's a no-no over there. You gotta keep it on. It's a no-no over there to take it off. Over here, it's a rah-rah to put it on. Put it on and you're in. You're in, baby, Nike commercial.
Starting point is 00:34:17 You're getting a book deal. Yeah. So she took it off of what happened, acid in the face? Is something like that? Okay. Yeah, I would say. Yeah, I mean, you know, it could have been acid in the face. By the way, the gas station producer,
Starting point is 00:34:27 instead of like finding articles where this stuff's happening, he's just trying to sign into his email. He's just, he's just... Oh, there she is. That's sad. Well, now you're bumming us out. We don't want that.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Well, what happened? That's a bummer. What happened? That's a big bummer. She's laying there in the hospital trying to do a comedy show. Trying to do a comedy podcast. We don't need a picture of her in the hospital.
Starting point is 00:34:52 That doesn't help. Maybe. The sponsors won't like that. We're trying to sell underwear here for fat people. He just made me thought we were more visual. Do we know what happened to her, good old producer? Do we know? It's, they're saying she had a heart attack
Starting point is 00:35:08 and a police station collapsed and fell into a coma, but that doesn't seem to be a, she died. I think that's, she's like they're, in their revolution right now, that she's like they're George Floyd, right? I think one, I think one side... Now I get it.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Yeah, one side's going, hey, she fell. And the other side's going like, I don't think she fell. One side's going like... One side's going... One side's going, it's fentanyl. I don't think it was. I saw a nine minute video where a guy was going, I can't breathe and you were kneeing on his neck.
Starting point is 00:35:43 I think that had something to do with it. Well, somebody sent me him swallowing a bag of drugs. Oh. Floyd, I don't know if that's true or not. No, it could be. Someone sent me something. Yeah. Someone.
Starting point is 00:35:54 But the knee on the neck probably didn't help. Never good. Never good. So this woman is Iran's George Floyd. Right. That, now you've put it in context for me. That's the only way for us to understand her. Because I've never knew.
Starting point is 00:36:07 Yes. She had a heart attack at the police. She fell. Which is a real unfortunate series of events. Or, something else happened and that's why Iran is, it's really heating up. Yeah, she was, you know, doing the equivalent of cashing a... Yeah, so here we go again.
Starting point is 00:36:24 However, eyewitnesses, including women who were detained with amini reportedly said she was severely beaten and that she died as a result of police brutality. Which is probably true. I, or... It's probably true. Depends on who, yes.
Starting point is 00:36:38 Or not. She fell into the stairs. It could have been because maybe they're it, but maybe it wasn't that. Right. Right. I would guess it wasn't that. Really?
Starting point is 00:36:50 Yeah, I would guess. Because they don't take too kindly to women taking off. So you're saying she was beaten? I'm saying there's a chance. There's a chance. There's a chance. She was beaten. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:02 To death. I suspect. It's probably, yeah. I suspect there's a chance. Okay. I'd say that there's a good chance. Cause yeah, I guess. Well, by the way, whatever that is, we're not, hey.
Starting point is 00:37:14 You know, we're on our, we think that that is abhorrent and it should be, we should, we should do something. I don't know what we should do. We should maybe make another commercial about it. Well, you know, there's gotta be a way. This would be a perfect time for Nike to make a follow up commercial. Of her or of something in Iran?
Starting point is 00:37:37 No, some with how important it is. To wear the hijab. To wear the hijab. Yeah. And play tennis or something. Yeah. This would be a perfect timing for it. Don't miss this opportunity.
Starting point is 00:37:46 This is like the six months right after 9-11. This is like true crimes. And instead of just do it, when you're about to take the hijab off, Nike could go, think about it. Ha. Ha. Ha.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Are you sure you wanna do that? Ha. You don't have to, you don't have to just do it.
Starting point is 00:38:07 It could be, think it over. Think about it before you do it. Think about it, yeah. Think about it. There's a lot of history there. There's a lot of tradition on your head that you are now taking off.
Starting point is 00:38:19 It's your choice. Put it on, put it off. That's the place. That's all you have to do. So the commercial should be someone putting it on to play tennis. That's right. But then you show her taking it off.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Yeah. And she doesn't fall into the stairs. Yeah. That's what's good. You have to take it off. And then she starts thinking about her mother and grandmother and society and that their rules do need to kind of be in place.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Right. And she realizes that at the end of the day, the best thing she can do is go along with the plan. Right. Right. Because sometimes that's just, it's a nice thing to do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:53 So that's what's going on over there. That's what's going on. Is that the women work. Here's the other thing, and I gotta be honest, and this is gonna probably make me sound like insensitive here. It's like,
Starting point is 00:39:04 you don't have to wear the full one, right? No, but it's like when, like I get what you're saying. It's like, okay, you guys are a little upset. You can't take them off if you want to. But we got a wage gap here. Yeah. It's also like.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Everyone's got problems. And nothing's perfect. It's like, well, here's what I, I always go, this isn't my culture. It's, this is when people get angry at me. They're like, no, you don't understand. It's not my culture. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:30 The reality is, I don't tell them what to do. Right. Because I don't, it's not, we're not, nothing to do with anything. And also that would be wrong of you to do. It would be wrong. It's wrong. As pumpkin fat whitey, tell them,
Starting point is 00:39:41 but here's the deal. I don't go into sub-Saharan Africa where they're lobbing off clips and making stew and tell them what to do. Is that what I would do? No. No, Anthony Bardain would, it would be rude for him not to taste it.
Starting point is 00:39:55 He would go and eat it. Yeah. But I just say, let people do what they do. And it would be, it would be, what, what is it? I don't meddle. It would be, what's it ethnocentric? Yes. It would be ethnocentric to assume
Starting point is 00:40:08 that you can say what's right or wrong. But it kind of would. I know we're being sarcastic, but here's the deal. What are we supposed to do? Invade? No. And convince everyone to not lob the clips off and make the stew?
Starting point is 00:40:19 No. What's the point? No. Whatever makes you happy? We're supposed to send. Whatever makes you happy? We send weapons. We have a defense industry that needs to unload
Starting point is 00:40:29 some weapons. I don't like that Ukraine was a country of white Nazis and we've somehow made it into like, it's a RuPaul's Drag Race. Well, but homosexuality was like basically illegal there up until 20 minutes ago when it's now the most gay friendly country of an ex-Soviet country. We just lie about what all these things are anyway.
Starting point is 00:40:48 But I'm sure there's a few Nazis in Russia too. For sure, but Ukraine, it was like a massive thing. There was all kinds of things that they pulled down videos. It's just, they're into it. Yeah, it's propaganda. We send to it. What do you think about this thing where they say Russians are being armed with Viagra to rape Ukrainians?
Starting point is 00:41:05 That feels fake. That feels like propaganda. I would sue if I was Viagra. I mean, Russians are being, like they're doing poorly on the battlefield anyway and they're going, by the way, if you have extra time, go rape someone. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:19 That seems like it's a little wacky. Well, you know, there's always atrocities on both sides. It's war. Sure. That's why I love when people always go like, hey, this side's uncivilized. You're like, the whole thing is fucked. The whole thing is fucked.
Starting point is 00:41:31 People don't know how to draw the line. They don't go in there and like British have a T and then kill you in the proper way. It's like, it gets ugly. It gets very ugly on both sides. Well, that's why we have to make some type of deal maybe. I mean, we gotta get out of there. We gotta give a deal.
Starting point is 00:41:47 There's gotta be a deal. Gotta get a lawyer in there. Get that region. Give him those regions that he wants and fucking no NATO. Yeah. That's what you need to get. A good Hollywood lawyer in there and say, let's make a deal. Like a shark.
Starting point is 00:42:00 Let's get in there. We've been preventing that, you know? We've been telling Ukraine like, don't go to the table, just keep fighting. Yeah. That's not great. Yeah, we must have some interest in it. Yeah, we like those weapons.
Starting point is 00:42:12 Do they got oil in there? I don't know. They got a great position geographically and we like slinging weapons and we like, you know, but we keep, we kind of tell, because like, I think we have to like, tellings Linsky and everything like, hey man, don't negotiate like just, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:29 but now Putin's like, okay, well, you know what? We're gonna now turn up the heat. Right. So if we don't, if there's no negotiation that's forced, you're looking at a really bad situation because Putin will level Ukraine. He's going to level Ukraine. And then he'll get leveled.
Starting point is 00:42:45 It'll be bad for the whole world. It'll be bad for the whole world. Otherwise, he's dead. Yeah. This week, you don't understand. You, but people, if he goes back to his country and goes, hey, sorry, I wasted all the time and disgraced us, they're killing him.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Yeah. So he, his own self-preservation is like, I'm going to try to win. Right. We got to win here. And it could be an ugly win. Yeah. It might not be a nice win.
Starting point is 00:43:08 It might be like everybody's dad and there's an insurgency for years and everybody hates us, but we did technically win. Yeah. So I think you try to avoid that by making some type of deal. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:21 I think, you know, if you're listening to his podcast, Putin, and you're listening to Zelensky. He does. Yeah. Zelensky too. Putin's a huge Tim Dillon fan. He's a huge Tim Dillon fan. Wouldn't that be funny if he was just a huge
Starting point is 00:43:33 comedy podcast fan? I would love it if he was a massive comedy podcast fan. Nothing would make me happier. If Zelensky's just got time in his little bunker, whatever he just throws on. Well, Zelensky is such a fame, whoring guy that he's aware of every celebrity. Maybe not like shitty podcast celebrities,
Starting point is 00:43:54 but Zelensky knows of every Hollywood A-list or like he just wants to be on the, I think he's been on the cover of Vogue. Like, that's what he wants to do. And he was an entertainer before. Yes. And he is now, it seems. Seems like he is one now as well.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Because he likes the limelight. He doesn't shrink from the limelight. He doesn't fade. No, no, no. He's definitely, they've turned him into Winston Churchill. Does this go into World War III? You know a lot about history.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Perhaps. Yeah. Perhaps. Ugly. Yeah, it could. I mean. Just trying to go, fuck it, we're going into Taiwan. China's definitely going into Taiwan.
Starting point is 00:44:29 And if China goes into Taiwan, what do we have to do? I mean, what do we do? Nothing really. Well, if it, this is the thing. If it wasn't for NATO, it would have happened already. Right. If it wasn't for NATO, Ukraine and Georgia would be leveled already.
Starting point is 00:44:43 So it's like, you know, I just don't think, you know, I don't know if I buy Putin's version that he's just like, Hey, I'm upset about NATO. But here's a, forget that, whether they, no matter what his motivations are, he's got all the nukes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:59 So it doesn't really matter why he did it. No, he's got it. This is the thing. It doesn't really matter. Because a friend of mine, he's a smart guy with foreign policy. He was like, who cares? There's a million reasons why anyone does anything.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Right. He did it. And he's going, I want these two things. And if you don't give me them, I will bomb the country. And if you bomb me, I have nukes or we're just going to go, we're going to have a party.
Starting point is 00:45:22 Well, at some point, someone was going to hijack the world with their nuclear capability. Yeah. I mean, human nature hasn't changed. So some autocrat, eventually, inevitably was going to do something like this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:33 So from here, it either sparks World War three and we all go Kaputsky and we don't make it to Mars or something happens that stops it. Okay. That something will be a video from Hollywood. Why are they so fucking quiet? Yeah. Where is that video?
Starting point is 00:45:52 Where is that compilation video from them saying stop? It should just be a bunch of Hollywood actors like on set because they're all working now. So they're on set and then they just go, Mr. Putin, stop. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it.
Starting point is 00:46:11 He just goes from like Amy Schumer to like, you know, Sean Penn to Jennifer Garner to whatever, to whoever it is. Yeah. Stop. Yeah. Jacob Elordi from Euphoria. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:23 Stop it, Mr. Putin. Yeah. Zendaya. Stop it. Keenan Thompson in there. Yeah. Stop it. I just saw him driving a Eurus in Beverly Hills.
Starting point is 00:46:30 Looks good. Yeah. He's like, he's been just doing it forever. He's been around for a long time. He's just been doing it forever. Good Burger wasn't yesterday. God bless him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:40 He's been killing it for a long time. He's really. I saw him in a Lambo truck just smiling, happy. Yeah. He worried about the Ukraine. Yeah. He ain't thinking about it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:50 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, good for him. Yeah. Yeah. He's not, nobody really thinks about it that much. Well, I'm excited about all this new stuff that's going to get made.
Starting point is 00:47:04 Now, Netflix is bouncing back. They're kind of, maybe they're kind of going the other way from what they were doing, which was just really that woke kind of annoying stuff. And they're going back to like, kind of like glorifying cannibals today. Yeah. And that's what I think people want.
Starting point is 00:47:21 And I think that's what's going to save the day. Like, I think finally you're looking at something where people are like, finally, I can sink my teeth into this, literally. Finally, there's a protagonist I can identify with. Yeah. Yeah. Finally, someone who represents us.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Sure. The non-woke. Jeffrey Dahmer. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm just happy about it. I think that it's going back the other way.
Starting point is 00:47:45 I think that there's a pendulum swing. I think that people are really getting interested in real stories again, as opposed to garbage. Yeah. And the real stories, Jeffrey Dahmer's a real fucking story. It did happen. He's a real guy. Whether you like him or not,
Starting point is 00:47:59 whether you think what he did is right or not, we all have different opinions on that. It's true. It's subjective, really. Whatever, no matter what you think about how he was treated by the cops or what his family dynamic was, this is a real story that people can appreciate
Starting point is 00:48:20 and come to their own conclusions. Right. Initially, I think Netflix categorized it as an LGBTQ. Is that true? Yeah. And then they got in trouble for that. Well, it is LGBTQ. But I think-
Starting point is 00:48:32 See, cannibal. Right. I think the community. I think that community got upset about that. They were like, if you don't want this, we want bros. I see what they're saying. And the people said, we want not bros, we want that.
Starting point is 00:48:48 I see what they're saying, but I go, you, I would not mind at all. You put it back under LGBTQ because it's the first good LGBTQ thing really made in recent memory. Yeah. You have great things like the bird cage and stuff from years ago,
Starting point is 00:49:04 but recently it's been a lot of crap. Yeah. Since broke back mountain. Well, that Billy Eichner guy is this unlovable guy running around screaming at people on the street. He does a film. It's a horror. And nobody wants this.
Starting point is 00:49:18 So you're saying his movie was more of a horror than Jeffrey Dahmer's. Unquestionably. Billy Eichner is a person is so much more offensive than Jeffrey Dahmer in every way. Right. If you had to spend five minutes with either Billy Eichner or Jeffrey Dahmer,
Starting point is 00:49:34 this self-important game show host or Dom, the legend is a game show host. It's not even a good game show. And the guy's like, the guy's screaming at straight people from not going to see the movie. How about everyone under 30 is gay. If you go on the internet,
Starting point is 00:49:50 where are they at the movie? He's just unlikable. It's fine. It is what it is. But compare him to Jeffrey Dahmer who like it or not, isn't an instant. Is an American institution. Yeah. Is a real story.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Is from the heartland. Is salt of the earth. Has made questionable choices. Is someone who will be remembered long after Billy Eichner has been forgotten and Rose has been forgotten. So if you're LGBTQ concerned at Netflix, I'm going Dahmer all the way
Starting point is 00:50:22 as opposed to the other garbage. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. Because it is an LGBTQ story. Technically. Because Ted Bundy was a straight serial killer. He was a playboy. There's tons of straight serial killers.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Obviously not all serial killers are gay. But the ones that are, why not? Let's get into that. Let's get those stories told. Let's get those stories told. It's weird because I think we are, we're almost done with the way we thought about things for the last few years.
Starting point is 00:50:54 Very interesting. It's folding in on itself. I think people are tired of it. It's over. And the way to contextualize everything is this overtly political, very dry, box checking, categorical. I think people are over that.
Starting point is 00:51:12 And I think people are now really gonna get comfortable in the gray. Yeah. This is the gray area. This is my prediction. We're going back into the gray area. And the Dahmer's a great example of that. I think he, I would say he's,
Starting point is 00:51:26 I would say it's not so gray. It's pretty gray. I would say. It's pretty gray. Explain how it's not gray. Well, cause he, he murdered people and he ate them. But why do you like him? Because.
Starting point is 00:51:45 That's what I mean. I'm not saying that was right. Right, right, right. I'm not saying that's not great. I'm saying Tony Soprano murdered people. Did you like him? Me personally. Do you didn't like Tony Soprano?
Starting point is 00:51:56 Are you going to lie right now? You fucking American university faggot. I was more of an Edie Falco guy. Oh, stop it. Yeah. I identified with her story. You're already married. Her struggle, her story.
Starting point is 00:52:09 But you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Why do you like Dahmer? I like him because it was like, what did his mother do to him? The thing about him, what did his mother do to him? I like, we like anyone who's in control of their own story. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:21 This is true. He took the reins. We like anyone who's in control of their own story. This is true. And I know a lot of people are going to be, they're going to misunderstand this. But what I'm really saying here is that Jeffrey Dahmer, do you want a world without Jeffrey Dahmer?
Starting point is 00:52:36 No. And the reality is we don't. I don't. We don't. We really don't want a world where that we don't want to get eaten. No. And we don't want our friends to get eaten.
Starting point is 00:52:46 And it is unfortunate it was racially based. No good. Yeah. But we don't want a world where something about these monsters keeps us in line. There's something about these people that we kind of like. The randomness of it all, it feels, there's something about, I don't even know what it is,
Starting point is 00:53:03 things that go bump in the night. People that disappear. There's some, we love horror movies. We love being scared. We love to scream. There's something about it that keeps us in check. Well, it's fear is fashion just the way morality has become morality is fashion.
Starting point is 00:53:19 It's at a distance. It's not happy to us. It's a cool, safe thing to say, you shouldn't walk act this way when you're around these people or you should walk in poor neighborhoods and just feel safe. And you can say that,
Starting point is 00:53:35 but doing that is a whole nother thing. Just like saying or watching or talking about Jeffrey Dahmer is one thing, but then getting eaten by him is another. Right. No one wants to be eaten by Jeffrey Dahmer. But also nobody wants. That's presumptuous.
Starting point is 00:53:51 I'm sure there's some people out there. There's some people out there. Fucking sick Germany wants it. But nobody wants to live in a world where it's a complete impossibility to get eaten by Jeffrey Dahmer. Except for the people who he did eat. They are not a fan.
Starting point is 00:54:05 That's true. But they don't have a vote. But they're out. They don't have a vote. But many of us like the idea when we put our head to the pillow that someone's getting eaten. Well, here's the deal.
Starting point is 00:54:15 Some that's true. He did eat people, yes. But according to him, he was not a racist. And he did not choose them because they were BIPOC. Right. So it was fun to watch Jeffrey Dahmer go, hey, hey, I'm not a bad guy. I hope there's so many Dahmer costumes this Halloween.
Starting point is 00:54:33 I hope people are not dissuaded. I hope people stand up for their rights. I hope people just tell the fucking people, fuck you, I'm Jeffrey Dahmer. Now, if you are dressed as Jeffrey Dahmer, here's, I will just say this as sort of a safety warning like they do on television. Make sure the Halloween party you're going to
Starting point is 00:54:50 is 100% white. It's gotta be white. It's gotta be white. It's gotta be a white party. I do not want to show up at your black friend's party as Jeffrey Dahmer. It's gotta be white. It's gotta be white.
Starting point is 00:54:59 It's gotta be a white Milwaukee party. Yeah, you don't want. I don't dress up. You do maybe a family costume. But I have not dressed up in years. I don't really dress up. Before I was married, I did not dress up. Yeah, I just didn't.
Starting point is 00:55:11 I grew up throwing eggs and getting eggs thrown. Yeah, that's kind of what we did in the suburbs. I wasn't really a guy that dressed up. But now you're trick-or-treating. Now I'm awesome. Yeah, now I'm just under the will of the autocrat that is my wife. I'm glad we figured out the Iran and Russia.
Starting point is 00:55:28 Yeah, the Persians. They're Persian. You're welcome, everybody. They want to be referred to as Persian. Yeah, well, you're welcome, everybody, for figuring that out. We figured that out. We figured that out.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Yeah. Great opportunity for the shampoo industry to get in there. Get in there. And support the revolution. Well, everything's going to be, and I know that we make jokes about it, but I think everything really is going to be
Starting point is 00:55:50 what company likes your cause and what company can promote your cause. Do they pitch causes like we pitch shows? 100%. They go in there and they go Iranian Revolution? 100%. They go, I have an idea. There's a one-legged Palestinian girl
Starting point is 00:56:09 who throws the shop put. There's 100%. They go and they have meanings and they try to remember Malala. Yeah, I remember her. They come and go. Yeah, that was quick. They come and go.
Starting point is 00:56:24 There's that one. Remember Emma Gonzalez with the shaved head from Parkland? Yes. They come and go. They come and go. Ellion Gonzalez comes and goes. Come and goes. Elliot Page comes and goes.
Starting point is 00:56:34 Comes and goes. Comes back. And comes back. And comes back. Yeah, yeah. By the way, wouldn't she be a perfect Joan of Arc if they make that movie? He.
Starting point is 00:56:46 Sorry. He. He would absolutely, they would be a great Joan of Arc no matter what gender they identified as and I would support it and see it. Yeah. I would see it if he is not cast as Joan of Arc.
Starting point is 00:57:03 It's a criminal. It'll be criminal and it'll be a problem. It's, well, is Joan of Arc gonna happen? Well, the whole thing is that there was a big movement that she's trans. I mean, sorry. He's trans. Who's he?
Starting point is 00:57:17 Joan of Arc was a guy. Is that what they're saying? Yeah, they're mad because they don't want Joan of Arc to be portrayed as a woman because they're saying he was a he and he wanted, he was one of the first. It makes sense. It makes sense. It makes sense.
Starting point is 00:57:32 So they don't want people talking about Joan of Arc anymore as a she because it was clear that she was trans. Joan of Arc is a he. Is a he. Okay. That was a big thing in the news recently. Joan of Arc.
Starting point is 00:57:46 Joan of Arc was a, also a she. Was a she. Abraham Lincoln was gay. Abraham Lincoln was also a vampire killer. Is that true? Yeah. According to the movie. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Well, listen, folks, where can people find you and all the things you're doing? You can find me on parlor. The Greek church. You can find me at the Greek church. You can find me on parlor. You can find me on only fans. Parlor.
Starting point is 00:58:13 That's such a great dichotomy. You can see me on true social, parlor, only fans. The conservative media landscape with the new apps is wild. They just eat each other. They're interested. Yeah. I can't wait to win Kanye buys it. What he does with it.
Starting point is 00:58:32 He's buying parlor. Will they let him buy it? Of course they're gonna let him buy it. Are they gonna let the guy that owns the app scream about the Jews? Parlor don't care. Yeah. Parlor.
Starting point is 00:58:41 Yeah, who owns parlor now? Parlor's like a fun, like you're at the parlor with a bunch of guys. Who found? It's like Steve Bannon's, right? No idea. He needs somebody to watch it while he's in prison. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:50 He's going away for a couple of months. I can't imagine that they, that Kanye's gonna be able to just buy it. Well, according, they have a deal on paper, I think. Yeah. Who's excited about that? Even executives of parlor have to go, like who's really excited about an upcoming business deal.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Like we said, I think. With Kanye West. The idea is gonna, is more sexy even to Kanye than the execution. Yeah. Cause once he gets on there, nobody really. It's Musk with Twitter. He's like, I'll save Twitter.
Starting point is 00:59:18 It's like, you're not gonna save Twitter. Twitter had a moment. Yeah. But Twitter's moments over. Like everything else. Like Twitter had a moment. It was really dying before Trump. Trump brought it back.
Starting point is 00:59:28 Everything then was the result of a, all trickle down from Trump on Twitter. Right. Everything, everything I did, everything anyone did. Whether it was a video or a tweet, it always kind of in this universe created by the fact that you had this crazy wild guy on Twitter, Donald Trump. Once he's gone, even if he comes back,
Starting point is 00:59:51 the moments over Twitter itself seems to not carry as much social weight as it used to. He is really sort of the Frankenstein of our culture. Yes. I mean, you know, it's ironic that Hollywood hates him so much cause they created him. Well, they made him. What's amazing about him to me is he's indefatigable.
Starting point is 01:00:18 He's a star. He won't stop. Yeah. He won't stop. There's no signs of stopping. Well, because. And his people don't care. No.
Starting point is 01:00:29 But they throw at him. No. Documents. He had the fucking new codes and the buffet at Mar-a-Lago. None of it matters. No. I think it's because. They also want, a lot of his people want the world to end.
Starting point is 01:00:42 Yeah. They're ready. They're ready for the fight. They're ready for the rapture. They're ready. So anything where people go, yeah, he's going to, he'll destroy the world. They go, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:51 Yeah. Yeah. At least, but we want to win. Yeah. I think he just knows what America's about. He's like, I don't care whether I'm right or wrong. But I did what's true or not. I don't care as long as I'm there.
Starting point is 01:01:01 As long as I'm wild, the media will cover. He knows the media. He knows about what he's just made a great point. He knows what America's about. He knows what America's about. And it's like, as long as I'm there. Yeah. And I'm wild.
Starting point is 01:01:13 Hey, look, you could even chop up and eat a whole bunch of people. Yeah. America will make you a star. You're going to be a star. You're a star. And people are going to want to dress up as you. Yeah, because you rose above the rest.
Starting point is 01:01:26 Yes. And did something. And you did something. And that's why it's not so easy to just say, oh, we shouldn't glorify someone like Jeffrey Dahmer because no matter what you do, inevitably he's going to be glorified no matter what you do. It's what we're interested in.
Starting point is 01:01:41 And that's what I hope people don't lose that because it's really, it's a beautiful story with some not so nice parts. I mean, what's the difference between Jeffrey Dahmer and like a guy who kills one person unevently compared to Jeffrey Dahmer? I'll tell you the difference. The difference is lack of grind.
Starting point is 01:02:00 The difference is Netflix. Right. Yannis Pappas, everybody, where can they get tickets? Just go to yannispappascomedy.com. I'll be in Austin. No. Yeah, I'll be in Austin. Lucky.
Starting point is 01:02:13 I'm going to Republican Hollywood. Lucky. November 11th and 12th. Are you going to swim in the lake? I'm going to swim in the lake. Yeah. I'm going to try to go and get a bacteria in my vagina. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:25 So I'll be there and then Detroit and Chicago. I'll be there. November 11th and 12th. Nice. Yeah. So get tickets for that. Tickets just sound pretty well for Austin. Thank you guys.
Starting point is 01:02:35 And yeah, go listen to my podcast, Long Days. Go see Yannis Pappas, listen to his podcast, Long Days. We'll see everybody soon. We're here in New York. We'll be back in LA next week. Thank you. Good night.

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