The Tim Dillon Show - 381 - A Job Is A Job

Episode Date: February 11, 2024

Tim talks about getting a flat tire in Harlem, Biden’s brain, not being the first, 90’s songs as speeches and Tucker Carlson’s Vladimir Putin interview. American Royalty Tour 🎟 https://www.t...imdilloncomedy.com/ SPONSORS: Gametime: Get The Gametime App & Use Code: 'TIM' DraftKings Get DraftKings App & Use Code 'TIMDILLON' Blue Chew BlueChew.com & Use Code: ‘TIM’ Morgan & Morgan: For more information go to forthepeople.com/tim ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ Subscribe to the channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4wo... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/timjdillon/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/TimJDillon Listen on Spotify! https://open.spotify.com/show/2gRd1wo... #TheTimDillonShow Merch:  https://store.timdilloncomedy.com/ For every $400,000 we gross in revenue, we are donating five dollars to end homelessness in Los Angeles. We are challenging other creators to do the same. #TimGivesBack

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the show. We are late, and we apologize for that because I was coming back from the Levity Live comedy club in the Palisades Mall. What a treat. And, you know, it's a dump. It's a fun dump, and the audiences were fun. It's, uh, the area is kind of a dud. And I was coming back, and I was on the FDR, and I hit a big pothole. with my car, which is a luxury car,
Starting point is 00:00:34 and I was up in Harlem when that happened. So I turned off the FDR drive onto a street corner in Harlem, you know, with this brand new Bentley car, which the people in Harlem loved, to be honest, were very complimentary about it. Everyone that was walking by was like, we love the car, what kind of car is this? This is very nice.
Starting point is 00:01:00 and there were cops parked there who promptly left when I got there. They were like, let's see what happens, which I would have done to if I was a cop. I would have said, it's not going to be any fun if we sit here on the corner. Let's take a loop and then see. And we couldn't get a tow truck until 4 a.m. And it was just me and my opener. And we were sitting in the Bentley.
Starting point is 00:01:26 And it was on, we're on 145th Street. 142nd and 5th Avenue and we were sitting there in the Bentley and we would stand outside of it periodically from time to time and people would walk over and talk to us and some people would look at us and some people would you know and then the one tow truck guy we got a pizza at one point we're eating the pizza and one tow truck guy came over looks like a Dominican guy and he's like I can't tow it because it needs a flatbed and I was like yeah that makes sense you know and he's like you got to watch everything for these Venezuelans. I'm like, what? And he goes, yeah, the Venezuelan migrants, they're robbing everybody. They're just taking purses. And he goes, there's one guy.
Starting point is 00:02:08 He goes, he's on a walkie talk. He tells him, he goes, go get me a phone. Go get me a phone. I'm like, wait, what's that? So, you know, again, that's not me. I didn't say that. You know, that's a guy who's coming up to me, a Dominican guy at 1 a.m.
Starting point is 00:02:26 in Harlem going, you got to watch out for the Venezuelans. And which just made me laugh. I was like, where is that guy on the news? But, you know, you never see like, where is he? Where is his react? You know, you never see like the Dominican tow truck driver reaction to what's going on. But he went on and on. He was going on and on about Venezuelan migrants, gangs.
Starting point is 00:02:50 And, you know, I was like, oh, well, you know, we'll do our best. we will do our best to avoid but you know we were sitting ducks if anybody wanted the car they would have taken it nobody did we ended up getting it out of there but that's why we're late so it's not and we weren't in
Starting point is 00:03:13 maybe that's important we weren't in the center of things we're kind of off to the side but you know it's not that bad Fox News it's not that bad a new Bentley sat on the corner on 142nd and 5th. It looked like a sting.
Starting point is 00:03:31 I think if you wanted to steal a car, it looked like a sting. It was like me and this other white kid standing outside of the car like two undercover cops with this Bentley there, eating pizza, waiting to get jacked. So I think it was one of those things
Starting point is 00:03:45 where like people were like, wait a minute, you know? I was like, this is a little too, this is a little too on the nose, maybe. But the cops kept, you know, like they would they would be like you know every like hour they'd be like oh you're still here I'm like what does that mean I'm like this this isn't such a bad area they were like no it's not it's not good but nothing happened but what did happen was we did not get home until uh 5 a.m and
Starting point is 00:04:13 everybody I was exhausted and so I slept to like one and now of course I'll lose the car for a month the thing about having these luxury cars which is stupid I've kind of learned my lesson about them. I think maybe the next things I get when this is a lease, when I turn it back in, I think I'll just not do this again because anything that goes wrong with any of these cars is like the minimum a month and you have to turn it in and, you know, it's annoying. Now, obviously, it's not as annoying as other things that people go through, right? This is not, you know, I'm not, you know, people are going to be like, what about Gaza? You know, I know, I know, I'm aware. That seems worse.
Starting point is 00:04:48 but it is annoying that you can't take this to a regular they don't have a spare tire in the bent there's none there's no spare tire you're just out there like and then you got to go through their people you can't use triple-a you got to go through their whole thing and you know it's a very annoying process but the what is happening in Gaza is worse is that okay
Starting point is 00:05:14 is that okay to say that the starvation the mass starvation and now in the, you know, and of course, being in a tunnel, the people that have been in that tunnel for a long time, the hostages have been in that tunnel now for how long have they been in that tunnel probably? About two months since October, three months, four months? Almost four, yeah. Four months in the Hamas tunnel.
Starting point is 00:05:34 And a lot of them have died now. It's never going to work over there. I mean, this is just my surmise from the whole thing. It's just not going to work. And, you know, we're not going to talk about it because, you know, it's just not going to work. You know, eventually you just, you know, you have to accept. that it isn't going to work.
Starting point is 00:05:49 You know, I remember I had an uncle and an aunt, and they, you know, it just didn't seem good. They would show up. They would show up to the, you know, the holiday parties at different times. She would come later and bring dessert. She would kind of not come for the dinner. And he would come for the dinner. And she would kind of show up with, like,
Starting point is 00:06:08 chocolate-covered strawberries, you know, three hours later. And we were like, oh, something's up. And something was up because they are now divorced. and they both live happy lives separately from each other. But this is what I think is happening over there. Now, obviously, there was in my uncle and aunt's case, there was certainly less violence. There is more violence over in the Middle East from my perspective
Starting point is 00:06:36 with my uncle and my aunt. My uncle and aunt, they, like, made a lot of faces. It was a lot of, like, scowls and kind of, you know, and that was, that's not nothing, but it certainly wasn't kind of the, you know, the bombing of the hospitals and everybody dying. That's a little bit more, that's a little more depressing, you know, but our president now, I think they're getting into the final stages of grief.
Starting point is 00:07:07 And they got to get rid of this man. They cannot run him. They are going to lose if they run him. This is the scuttle butt. I talk to a lot of people that, certainly no more than I do. And they're all basically saying that this is not going to work. They cannot run a guy who is essentially in a stage of mental decline.
Starting point is 00:07:30 We all know that. It's quite obvious to everyone. Trump also confuses things and makes missteps, but in nowhere near the level that Biden has publicly. And finally, the special, counsel just released a report that they're not really indicting Biden for these documents that he had because he doesn't know where he is. They were basically like he's a, you know, this is a kindly old fellow who doesn't know where he is
Starting point is 00:08:05 or what he's doing. He has a poor memory. There was a quote that basically said that, that, you know, alleviates his responsibility. It would have been better if he was indicted because people. would have went, oh, okay, you know, the old dog can still fight. You know, at least he can still lie to us. I mean, that's all we really want our politicians to be able to do is to be able to lie. That's the job requirement.
Starting point is 00:08:30 That's the whole description of a political figure, primarily, is that they have the mental capacity to lie, you know, to make things up, to manipulate. That's what a politician does. And he's too old to do that. he's too confused to do that. He's too forgetful. He doesn't really know what happened. You know, and, you know, the money quote, I think, was it, yeah, he's an elderly man with a poor memory.
Starting point is 00:09:01 You know, the jury would be sensitive to an elderly man with a poor memory. The president did not remember when he was vice president. Even within several years when his son Beau died, the memory appeared hazy when describing the Afghanistan debate that was once so important to him. So, I mean, this is the biggest, you know, non-story because we know all of this. But, you know, now the people are being forced to confront this. And now there's not that many people. I mean, you have Michelle Obama who, you know, half the country is convinced as a man.
Starting point is 00:09:38 You know, I don't know if that, you know, hurts her. I imagine that it could help in certain areas and certain areas it, you know, might be problem, but she's kind of it. Gavin Newsom is a hated charlatan who lives on a vineyard and manages a failed state from a vineyard that is trying to be, I mean, the plagues, the biblical plagues are descending upon California at a rate that only suggests that there is a god and that he is not impartial to the coasts. He clearly prefers the East Coast, which of course he would. If there is a God, there's no way he likes the way. West Coast better. You know, there's no way. That would imagine he's like the most superficial
Starting point is 00:10:22 being and he just cares that it's pretty, you know? No, I'm sure he's, you know, he's interested in, you know, the floor and the fauna, but he also likes the life, the people that he's created. And there's no way that he's not disappointed in the West Coast. There's just no way. And Gavin Newsom is a, you know, hated figure. He's not liked. He's, you know, he's smarmy. There's all the things about him. He's a good-looking kind of 50-year-old fuck boy that nobody trusts and no one should. And he's presiding over a state.
Starting point is 00:11:00 And when he had the chance to really wipe the floor with Ron DeSantis in the debate, he didn't. He didn't. He kind of choked, you know? And DeSantis is not like a great debater. He's like a cop. DeSantis is like a cop. Best case, he's like a principal. He's like a substitute math teacher
Starting point is 00:11:17 who takes himself way too serious. We had a guy like that. I got a substitute math teacher that like was really proud of his, that he was a teacher and he was a coach and, you know, he wasn't a full-time teacher and he like, you know, it was like doing extra around the school
Starting point is 00:11:33 to try to get hired full-time and he'd like call you out if you were wearing a hat in the hall. That's kind of the vibe. So, you know, you can easily kind of trounce Ron DeSantis but Gavin Newsom didn't do it. So I don't think he's the move.
Starting point is 00:11:49 And then you're looking at the rest of the field and nobody has name recognition. That's the biggest problem. The biggest thing with the political system in America is you need name recognition. And Michelle Obama has name recognition. She can come in. And if she comes in,
Starting point is 00:12:07 I'm telling you it's the only shot they have. It's the only shot they have is if Michelle Obama comes in and they do the whole kind of, because it is powerful, right? The idea of like black female president, you know. You know, identity politics is annoying and ultimately probably destructive. We know it's destructive. But it does have a certain visceral appeal.
Starting point is 00:12:36 And it always has a certain visceral appeal. Even I catch myself. I'm not a human being. When I watch people and they're very emotional about, you know, the fact that they are taking steps that nobody in their race has ever done before, even though that's not true, like a lot of these people, like, no one has ever done that.
Starting point is 00:12:57 And it's like, no, people have, like, they erase, they erase a lot of people, right? It's like Martin was my favorite show. Growing up was a great black sitcom, right? I mean, the Cosby show, Living Single, in Living Color, there were, there were a lot of, you know, but sometimes people get up on stage you're like, no one has been here before me
Starting point is 00:13:21 and I want to thank everyone who tried and failed. And it's like it's an odd. You're like, wait, what? I want to thank everyone who tried to get here and failed because this country was always racist, but they couldn't deny me, of course. My talent couldn't be denied. The others of, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:43 know they tried, but they lacked something, but I had it and now. But when you look at a lot of these people, the gay people that get up and do it, and they're like, I'm the first queer person to ever. And it's never true, by the way. All of these things are never true. And people get away with it, but they're never true. You can always find if, and you don't have to look that hard to find people like Ray always brings up that, like, one of the composers for the music of the Stanley Kubrick
Starting point is 00:14:13 movies was like a trans woman who, you know, this legendary composer of all this music that went in the Kubrick films, you don't have to look that hard to find somebody before you that also did a thing. There was a gay comedian. I don't know his name and I'm not going to find it out. But there was a gay comedian who performed for the military all the time.
Starting point is 00:14:34 And it was very difficult. And if somebody knows who this is, they can message me. His name. And he died, but he was a, a gay comedian that would perform often for the military, which is not obviously always going to be the easiest crowd for an openly gay comedian. And he died.
Starting point is 00:14:54 And but he did it. And he went out and he said, and he would win them over with material. And then in the middle of the set or towards the end or whatever, he would come out of the closet. And people wouldn't mind. It was, you know, it was just, but it was, you know, a little awkward because you're performing
Starting point is 00:15:10 and, you know, when he was performing, attitudes about gay people are more, you know, conservative than they are now. But, you know, he wasn't famous. This was not a famous person, but he was out there as an openly gay comedian doing what
Starting point is 00:15:26 he did. So I've been lucky enough to get to a level and I've probably even said there's probably not too many gay male comedians who've gotten to a level that I've gotten. There's a few of them. And I've been lucky, and that's the internet, primarily because the internet is, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:44 allowed people to get involved in people's careers. But the reality is you can never claim to be, you're not the first of anything in 2024. You're not it. You might be doing a great job, but you're probably not the first. You just maybe got more famous than the other people. which is such an empty way to look at.
Starting point is 00:16:15 It doesn't mean you're better or you're more deserving. It just means that things worked out for you. But there's a lot of people that, so it's always interesting when these speeches go a little overboard, they just, they run that line between narcissism. And, you know, because we get it. It is good to, you know, to make, to break new ground. But then it just gets a little,
Starting point is 00:16:39 it always gets a little uncomfortable towards the, end. It's a little uncomfortable towards the end of the speech when the person's like, it's, it's, I stand on the shoulders of giants to be here tonight is the only person, you know, of my group to be here, the only, the first non-binary Pacific Islander to be here with you tonight and I look at those other people that were disgraced their lives were horrible
Starting point is 00:17:13 and they were spit on their whole lives they just opened their mouths and people shit in their mouths and when I got out of that limousine and I walked on that red carpet in my dress and I got taken all these people were taking photos of me it was never lost on me
Starting point is 00:17:32 how horrible all those other people's lives were and how great it is for me, even though there's a lot more to do, and this is no indication that it's over, because it's not over. It's actually, in many ways worse for me than those people somehow, even though I'm winning this. I don't want to, I'm not handing, I'm not handing you over the thing. I'm telling you it's still bad and it's going to be bad. But just as I was in my Valentino dress, I got out of, and I just, I thought about all those people whose lives were terrible right before me. But there is a visceral, exciting thing about identity.
Starting point is 00:18:08 It's something fun about it. We all can get into it. We go, yeah, good for you. I'm happy. I'm happy when someone wins, right? So I think Michelle Obama is the only way, and it's got to be big. It has to be big.
Starting point is 00:18:25 It's got to be Beyonce at the convention. It has to be big. You've got to, it's got to be that. You have to lean. You have to lean into it in a way that's, you know, you've got to ride the line between offensive. I mean, it's got to be Native America with the drums, kind of drum circles.
Starting point is 00:18:44 And it's got to be African, like traditional African dance because that is a nice dance. You don't see that a lot like the traditional kind of African dance they do. And I'm telling you, this all seems racist. None of it is. And that's what's interesting. What's interesting about it is that it all seems right. And genuinely, genuinely none of it is.
Starting point is 00:19:02 And then I have to correct people all the time because I'm telling her how to win, telling her how to win. And in order to win, you have, I want to see Minnesota delegates, white, I mean, gaunt white ghost people that emerged from their shit, snowy towns in the northeast. And they come into Great Lakes, the Finger Lakes region, they come out, they come out, and they are just kind of moving awkwardly at the convention to some great African drum beats, great African drum beats. And you just see like the awkward swaying, the awkward swaying of a librarian from Minnesota. You know, she's just awkwardly swaying. And she's got to bring the Jews and the Muslims together. And we can only really do that at this point through kind of a beat, kind of a dance,
Starting point is 00:19:56 kind of a musical, because it is going to be very awkward, right? Because, I mean, you got to have to, what do they do? that's the biggest issue for the Democrat. Do they even bring it up? Do they even bring it up at the convention? They're going to maybe have to, but I'm telling you right now, it's got to be spectacle.
Starting point is 00:20:11 They have to lean on spectacle. They don't have, the Jew-Muslim thing's going to be tough because, you know, I mean, they've got people of color. That's one of their big, you know, demos. And then they have Jewish people. That's another big demo.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Okay? And then they're going to have to get up. and they're going to go, oh boy, how do we handle this? And the only way to handle it, the only way to skate past it is spectacle. The only way to skate past the border stuff is spectacle. The strength of this country is, you know, they really just have to double down on spectacle. And the only way to do that is kind of with Michelle Obama coming out with Barack, star power, star-studded. bring everybody out.
Starting point is 00:21:03 I mean, everybody is on that stage. Doja cat, everyone. And you are just, and no one, because that's the only thing they're going to be able to, they're not going to be able to, like, logically, there's too many contradictions in their platform. There's too many groups in the room that hate each other. Too many people hate each other.
Starting point is 00:21:26 And when too many people hate each other, you have to lean on spectacle. Everybody has, it's kind of got to be a concert. It has to be a coronation. It can't be like you're going through the platform. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Not going to work. You cannot do a line by line.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Like, let's decide the party, but that's got to be done behind closed doors in secret and silence. Silence. Tracy Chapman, look at Tracy Chapman has to do. fast car. There can be no discussion of anything. You bring out Tracy Chapman, you got a fast car. It doesn't matter that Michelle Obama was raised rich, pretty much. Not rich, but middle class. Fine, she's fine. You know, Michelle Obama can just talk about, she should just do the lyrics to fast car. You know, you know, if she got up there,
Starting point is 00:22:26 Get the lyrics to Fast Car. She got up there. And just poetically, she was like, you've got a fast car. And everyone's clapping. And I want a ticket to anywhere. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Maybe we can make a deal. Maybe together we can get somewhere. Yeah. Starting from zero, we got nothing to lose. Been working at the convenience store. There's a lot of people out here that managed to save just a little bit of money. Clap, everyone's going nuts.
Starting point is 00:22:58 And we won't have to drive too far. Just across the border and into the city. And then someone's going to yell, free Palestine. And that, you know, you just have to keep going. You know, and you have to ignore it. Because you know that's going to happen. They're already planning. They're already planning that disruption.
Starting point is 00:23:17 So they're going to go, free Palestine. And then if she's good and she's good, she'll just point at them. You and I can both get jobs. Finally see what it means. to be living and everyone's clapping. And then she gets serious because my old man's got a problem. He's got a problem. He live in the bottle.
Starting point is 00:23:36 That's the way it is. He said his body is too old for working and everyone's nodding. You know the nodding like, because you know she's a wise black woman is what it is. That's what it is. I live whenever black woman talks, I listen because they know more than like a 17 year old white piece of shit. So I always listen.
Starting point is 00:23:51 They've been through more as people than like young white. I never, if you're not hot on Instagram and you're like a young white dude, I know, if you're hot, I just watch it on mute. I don't care at all when you're saying, if you're a 20-year-old white dude and you're like, that's all I hear. But if a black woman, no matter what stage of her life shift, she's homeless, I listen. A homeless black woman, you know, who's like, I will turn and listen to her a minute because I just have more respect for their base of wood.
Starting point is 00:24:23 They've been through more shit. So people in the audience are going to be enrapped, you know, there's going to be like, is that a word enrapped and raptured in, in, what am I looking for? It doesn't matter. The point is, what am I saying? You know what I mean? They're going to be. And, and, and, and then Michelle's going to be at the convention, and she's going to be like,
Starting point is 00:24:46 his body's too young to look like this and everyone's going to start nodding. Now, here's the deal. There are, maybe certain people in the convention will know it's the lyrics to fast. car by Tracy Chow. But it won't matter. She'll go, so Mama went off and left him. She wanted more from life than he could give. And I said, somebody's got to take care of it. And then every, and it's a big applause line. So I quit school and that's what I did. I'm telling you, you have to lean on spectacle at that convention. Biden has to be taken out like old yeller.
Starting point is 00:25:21 They, you know, because Biden's a racist criminal. he's an old racist criminal like many of our politicians Biden is a rate he called the city's jungles he's a he's got shady deals in the Ukraine he's got a crack smoking son
Starting point is 00:25:41 who's fucking hookers with guns to their head you know Biden has had it you know I mean his his like biography I mean it's just a
Starting point is 00:25:55 you know, Biden is the senator from Delaware, which is the shadiest state. It's where every credit card company moves to in America, just so they can fuck over financially illiterate people by calling them on the phone and saying, we're sending credit cards to your house. And they have these exorbitant activation fees and crazy interest.
Starting point is 00:26:23 And the monthlies are insane. and they move to Delaware because there's very little regulation and they can fuck over everyone. Joe Biden's a senator from that state, that state, okay? He's a shady guy, and he's been one, he's been a lifelong politician. He's stayed in there forever, okay? Al Franken got bounced because he did like a fake little,
Starting point is 00:26:51 he's like, oh, look at me, I'm pretending to grope tits. He's out. Biden has been around forever. It gives you an idea of what he's into or who he's in with, that he's been there forever. He's a shady guy. It's just a shady guy. There's no way around it.
Starting point is 00:27:10 He's an old racist criminal that they have to put him out to pasture nicely, like old yellow. And there's something beautiful about putting him out to pasture and then having Michelle Obama come in in a real, real electric way that leans heavily on symbolism, imagery, spectacle, fun. And that would be the Democrats only shot. Make it a party. Throw a party.
Starting point is 00:27:43 You have to throw a party right now for the next six months to get someone elected. It has to be. Because Donald Trump is throwing a party. He's throwing a party. You may not like the party. You may think the party is not good for the country. You may think the people at the party have had too much to drink. You may think some of them aren't mentally well.
Starting point is 00:28:11 You might think some of them are violent. You might look around the party and go, some of these people, this seems like a real powder gag. And it might be, but it's a party. It is a party. There's helicopter rides. There's festivals. There's confidence.
Starting point is 00:28:25 comedy acts, he's out there on the stump, roasting people, making you laugh. He's throwing a party for his, that's all we have left in this country right now, by the way, don't kid yourself, is a part. People just want to go to the party. We know we're kind of at the end, not to belabor a point, not to keep going back to the same theme, but we know that we're entering a period of turmoil, okay, in many different ways. California houses are just falling off the hill into the street. It's a period of intense difficulty.
Starting point is 00:29:03 China, Russia, North Korea. All of these countries are enemies of us. We have problems everywhere you look. Some of it's unavoidable. Some of it can maybe be fixed. But we know all of the things coming down the, the pike, AI, automation, climate. It's not going to be easy.
Starting point is 00:29:28 It won't be easy. We know. We just want to go to a party. You have to throw a party. The Biden candidacy is not a party. The only person in the Biden group that's, is Hunter and he's partied too much. It's like, we all have that friend where it's like, this is too much. hey, this is too much.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Like, that's not a fun party. Hunters overdid it. He overdid it. And the Biden candidacy isn't fun. Here's what the Biden candidacy is. Trump's party is a party maybe in a big desert mansion in Arizona. Can we say that? And everybody's out in the backyard.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Everybody's getting fucked up. It's crazy. It's a turquoise colored pool. The desert lights are out. Everybody's just really fucked up. The party is the point. The party is the point, right? Biden's party is like, you go to this rich kid's house,
Starting point is 00:30:37 and he keeps telling you about all the things that are going to happen at the party, and none of it really happens. And you're like, is this guy confused? Is this guy lying to us? Is this even real? and it never gets off the ground. It never, it just kind of, it just kind of sits there and it's kind of a dud.
Starting point is 00:31:01 But the Trump party, the party is the point. Everything he's, all the experiences you're going to have, you're having, you're having. That's kind of the fun of the Trump candidacy. Yes, he promises things that may or may not happen, but that's, they're never the point. They're never the actual point. You know, Biden's, it's the point.
Starting point is 00:31:21 He's like, oh, we're gonna, these girls said, you know, the Central High School? Well, the girls said they're coming and, uh, give me your phone. Let's text. What was her name? Tracy, Tina, who is that? Oh, she was a hottie and she's coming and that she said she was coming. Like, it's at the party. You get to the Trump party and he's like, isn't this the best party in the way?
Starting point is 00:31:43 And everybody's clapping. You're like, well, I guess it is. This seems like the best party in the way. Everybody's fucked up. And yes, at the Trump party, a few people die. few people die probably. A few people die. And then, you know, he eulogizes them. He goes, they died. They were at the party. And everyone goes, yeah, they were at the party. Who cares? You know, the Biden party's safe. You know, Biden's telling you not to get too close to the cliff.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Trump's like, get the, get the picture. Get the picture. Get that fucking Instagram photo. Who cares? So Michelle Obama has, and the Democratic Party has, in their ability, their ability right now to throw a fucking rager. But it's got to be big. It's got to be big. It's got to be 90s liberalism that was fun when all the white people wanted to be black,
Starting point is 00:32:42 even though that was gross then because we all know that that was in the middle of mass incarceration. But you know what I mean. What I mean by that is that it's got to be fun. It's got to feel fun. If you want to win, I'm telling you how to win. I'm telling you how to win. And I know people listen to this show that have some influence.
Starting point is 00:32:56 You have to throw some type of event. This campaign has to feel new and electric and exciting. It's got to feel like a party. And if it doesn't, it's never going to work. So take my advice at that convention. I'm talking about African dance or maybe it's an 80s themed, 80s 90s, break dance with the big boom boxes. I don't, again, you're like, Oh my God, this is right.
Starting point is 00:33:24 It isn't. I'm just wondering what theme are we going to go with here? What theme? Is it Gen X 90 Slacker? Are we doing that? Is it friends? Is it like a friend's theme? Like, is that the theme where it's like we're all looking out for each other?
Starting point is 00:33:44 We're all friends here. Michelle's our friend. And we're all friends. And does she walk out with Aniston and Kudrow? all the, I'm not kidding. And do we, do we, do we, like, pour out hot tub water for Matthew Perry? And do we all put our fingers to the sky? You know, I don't know what we do.
Starting point is 00:34:05 I don't know if we do that. I don't know if that's wise to have a friend's convention where we memorialize Matthew Perry. That, that's, that's out there, sure. That might not be one that they take from this episode. But I will say, I'm, do you have, and I'm, like, do we reunite the cast of Martin? Do we reunite with Tisha Campbell? Kind of what the Emmys did. The Emmys got a couple more viewers than they usually do.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Do we get Tishina Arnold, Tisha Campbell, Martin, Col Anthony Payne? This was one of the greatest comedy shows. Do we do that? Does Britney Griner come out and just start three point? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:34:48 I'm saying Trump is going to have his version of that. He's going to be doing the way. white Olympics opening ceremony. You have to give liberals. Get, they got to feel cool. People got to start looking at them going, this is cool. This isn't just like green-haired people that are angry in Wisconsin. This feels cool.
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Starting point is 00:37:44 Polyamory is a big thing now. Everybody is polyamorous. Or not everybody, but they're pushing it hard. even longtime married people are doing it from triads to quads. More people are choosing polyamory over monogamy, but it's not all rosy, participants say. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:06 This is one of these articles where it's like quite obvious to everyone what it's going to say, where it's like, you know, at first, the whole poly concept sounded flaky. Married happily for 26 years to a guy she met when she was 19, Cherise always had this what? What is this word? Are you serious?
Starting point is 00:38:33 Is that a real word? I believe it is, but it's, I wouldn't say it yet. Are you crazy? We can have the computer say it. The word in it? What publication is that? The National Post. The National Post.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Can I spell this word? Sherise always had this N-I-G-L-I-N-G Shirees always had this N-I-G-L-I-N-G thing? What? It's a word. This is the craziest
Starting point is 00:39:14 There was no other word This made it through an editor. All right, so I'm going to say it if it's a word. Cherise always had this niggling thing A curiosity about women That she'd never had the opportunity to explore. Who cares? White chicks, you know, I mean, listen,
Starting point is 00:39:32 some people are by. I'm not saying it's just white chicks, but I don't, you know, folks, I'm stuck on this word now. This is crazy that they let this word even get. Here's the deal. Polyamory doesn't work. Here's why. People get jealous. Jealousy is real, right?
Starting point is 00:40:00 So we all know what polyamory is. We're all going to fuck everybody and everyone's going to be cool about it. You're going to have sex with people. I'll have sex with people. Maybe we'll be in a thruple, which seems absurd. People are in a thruple. They're in a relationship with two other people. I mean, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:40:20 We're going to have romantic comedies now with quads, with four people. We're going to have groups of... Folks, we've tried this. It's called cults. Called cults. I mean, truly. A bunch of people living together and fucking,
Starting point is 00:40:34 or, you know, not even living together. It's called a cult. It doesn't really work. Everyone has to drink poison at the end or they make a documentary about you on YouTube. But that's really what it comes down to. You mean, these are like, the idea that this is going to work is crazy.
Starting point is 00:40:54 People, the idea of it sounds good. But the happiest people I know are they're building something with their wife or husband or partner, significant other, whatever. Like, when you are building something, you have to, like, subordinate all of the desires you have for the greater good. And the greater good is you're building something with a person, you know, and you can't gratify every base need that you're having all the time.
Starting point is 00:41:32 this isn't this isn't a productive way to live and the reason that the media has fallen in love with polyamory is that a lot of people in the media are losers and losers this is an attractive philosophy to losers and a lot of people that are in the media are losers the people that are writing these articles that are like cocooned in their apartments all day, you know, eating Chinese food, eating bow buns, and writing about how you should proceed with your love life, are losers.
Starting point is 00:42:11 And they're incapable of being in any type of productive relationship. They're incapable of finding a partner that they enjoy and that they want to build something with. So they tell you that no one should have these things. Because the media, they tell you that they don't have any money. No one should have any money. No one can make any money. They tell you that they can't find a, well, then no one should.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Everyone, they say, they say, if they can't be attractive, no one should be attractive. It's the ideal that's the problem. The ideal is the problem. If they don't have a six-pack, no one can have a six-pack, you know? And that's what the media often does. They often go, well, this is our experience. We're miserable. We live in New York.
Starting point is 00:42:55 We don't have any money. We live in these tiny little apartments. You don't need, a suburb suck. You don't need that backyard. You don't need all that land. You should be like me. Miserable in Brooklyn. I'm 46.
Starting point is 00:43:09 And I'm miserable. I'm single. I, you know, I live in a, in a, in a, in a section of Brooklyn that's coming up. I'm 46. And the time to do that's when you're 19, you know? But that's why, that's why this stuff is all catching. There's no, there's no, this polyamory stuff, but it's all, it feels like engineered. I don't know anyone, I don't know anybody who's polyamor.
Starting point is 00:43:34 I know, I know people that are not, it's my godson, should we answer? Should we answer my godson? Should it be on the pod? Sure. It'd be kind of interesting to have them on the podcast. My godson was watching the Tucker interview with Putin and clapping. I don't know what it means. I don't know what it means.
Starting point is 00:43:58 But, I watched that whole interview. I'll tell you what I think about that. It's very hard to me because Putin, I've, you know, I've known him for a very long time and we have a lot of social circle is. Hi. Roland, say hello on the podcast. You want to go to my house, Roland? You can take him to the pool.
Starting point is 00:44:24 You can go to the pool if you want. Take him to the pool. China! China! Play him the interview with Vladimir Putin. Tucker calls and Johnson. just did an interview with Vladimir Putin. It's very important for him to watch because that is his ally. Putin is your ally.
Starting point is 00:44:43 Hi. Putin is your ally. He's so happy. You can take him to the pool and then play him Putin. All right. Well, I'm in the middle. I do have to finish this podcast, but goodbye, Roland. Putin.
Starting point is 00:45:04 It's interesting because Putin called me, you know, and we don't talk as much as we used to. and it is fun when he calls. And he has, here's the thing about him. He has a very subtle sense of humor. And I appreciate that because I'm more gregarious and Latvia. And that's why it always worked as a friendship because friendships need to kind of have those opposite components. And his clan is from St. Petersburg.
Starting point is 00:45:29 And I know more people in Moscow, but we do have, certainly there's an overlap. And he called me and said, I'm going to have Tucker on. And I said, I said, go. I said, you know what? I said, do a whole thing. I said, give him a dissertation. And he goes, no, I go do it. And he did it.
Starting point is 00:45:48 That's for the people that think that I really know Putin. That there are people that watch your show that think like Russia pays me. Because I've questioned our policy, our dedicated policy of nuclear war. The American Defense Establishments dedicated policy of more nuclear war. I watched the interview Favorite part was when Putin was like Hey he said to Tucker he goes Hey
Starting point is 00:46:17 Thank God you didn't get into the CIA Because Putin doesn't respect anyone Who doesn't have real power And what's cool about that moment Is Putin actually respects like the CIA Because he said you know they were always our enemies But he goes a job's a job And he kind of smiles
Starting point is 00:46:34 You know Because if all you fight against is the CIA, you kind of have a respect for them. Putin, you know, his entire life, he's been fighting against this one group of people, right? And the way he said that to talker, he's got, you know, Putin doesn't care about people in the media. He doesn't, I don't think he really respects the media.
Starting point is 00:46:58 This is not, you know, so when he said that, he's like, oh, thank God you didn't get into the CIA. He was basically like, I would have respected you if you were here to poison me because that's the type of guy he is and that's the thing here's why Putin is even though
Starting point is 00:47:16 he is murders people here's what's interesting about Putin he's not on TikTok this is what we like about he's a relic of another age let's say that about him he's an armchair philosopher
Starting point is 00:47:34 he's grandpa if, you know, grandpa had hundreds of nuclear weapons. He's a relic. He's not really interested in the new media landscape. We can say that. That's not, he's not interested in that. What Putin, Putin orientes himself from his position.
Starting point is 00:48:00 He's, the first answer was 30 minutes. He goes, this is why I believe what I believe. is it junk was he filibustering is it whatever it none of that matters because it this is the guy this is this perspective you don't live in Russia so the reality
Starting point is 00:48:16 of the situation is I my interest is that America doesn't go to war with Russia in a capacity with nuclear weapons and my interest is that America doesn't instigate a wider war in that
Starting point is 00:48:32 part of the world that becomes a war that we're fighting. This is my instinct. This is not a veneration of his worldview per se, although there's certain things he says, which I completely get it. And there's certain things he says where I go, okay, I was a debate guy.
Starting point is 00:48:48 I know kind of what he's doing, but that moment was my favorite when he kind of, he kind of has that awes moment, because the fun of his life is over, by the way. The fun of his, like he he's at the top of the mountain, it's very lonely, he's got the big desk, but, now,
Starting point is 00:49:05 I'm not comparing myself to Putin. I wish. If I was on a Zempeg and it really worked, perhaps. But, no, what basically, the thing about Putin is at this point, he's only living for Russia or what he thinks Russia is. Like he, you know, his friends are all older. They're all dying. The excitement of his life.
Starting point is 00:49:29 Being a spy, climbing the ranks, fucking the women, killing the people. your life almost being taken all the time. That's kind of over. That's over. It's now become, now he's, of course, trying to outrun these coups. That's why the progosian thing, he probably felt alive again for the first time.
Starting point is 00:49:52 He's like, oh, I got to kind of take his plane at a mosque. He probably felt alive. He said, this feels like the old, I guarantee you, at some point to one of his friends, he said something like, well, it feels like the old days. feels like the old day because he's had absolute power over there for a while and he gets boring and that's why people are like the oh this interview is boring that's what everyone said it's boring i don't like it it's not fun that was the critique of the interview it's boring it's not fun it's not interesting it's boring where's the back and forth where's the yelling I want them to yell at each other.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Yeah, it's a little dry. It's a little dry, but that's what it is. What do you think Putin, like all these people, this is what's interesting about the QAnon cult. The QAnon people, again, not all wrong. We know that. But they're wildly speculative about most things. and they're just downright insane about others.
Starting point is 00:51:07 That there are body doubles, people have died, but they've been replaced, JFK Jr's coming back. But by the way, you want to talk about if JFK Jr. is alive, and he comes back and he runs with Michelle Obama, it's over. It will be over. But what I mean by the Q&N cult is that politics, by its very nature, is boring. I think the hardest thing for us in our society to wrap our heads around, is that there is a banality to the evil that we see in the world.
Starting point is 00:51:42 It is not nearly as exciting as we think it's ancient blood cults and shape-shifting lizards and all the things. But what it really is is the cold marble floors of a bank in like Geneva. It's the high heels of a woman walking across the cold marble floors of a bank in Geneva. it's a very short phone call on a line that people assure each other isn't being tapped. It's a lunch where people are very vague about their intentions, but there's an underlying discomfort. There is a banality to it.
Starting point is 00:52:24 That's where, obviously, the phrase, the banality of evil. And we just aren't built like that. So much of American culture has been imagined. by Hollywood in spurts of two hours and hours on TV or half hours even, storylines that have beginning middle and end and they are filled with intrigue. And it's not to say that there is an intrigue in the world. It's not to say that things aren't interesting, but that's really what it is. It's not, it's not these, it's this guy's talking about czars.
Starting point is 00:53:02 He's talking about Vladimir being this guy being baptized and this is like the greatest, one of the other great moments is Tucker is like, where are we now? And Putin's like 1500s. He's like 15.
Starting point is 00:53:19 You know, you will fall asleep. That is most of the things where people are being killed. If you were to get a full accounting of them, you would go to sleep. This is not an episode of a show you like. This is not White Lotus. Where at the end of eight episodes, we're like,
Starting point is 00:53:40 Who kills who? White Lotus, you know the body's there. It's an episode one, so you know it's all heading somewhere in episode eight. But if I were to sit down, not that I would do it, but if a scholar were to explain to you, the Israel-Palestine conflict or Russia, Ukraine,
Starting point is 00:53:55 you would be in bed. You'd be in bed. You're killing each other. Wait, what? Prince Philip Vladimir being baptized the Cossacks or whatever it's
Starting point is 00:54:11 it's boring and then I think people just have this idea and you could see there were certain moments in the Putin interview because my interest is in politics it's always the human angle there was just certain moments and that was really one of them where Putin's like a job's a job and the way he said that
Starting point is 00:54:28 you know he was basically saying that that was the fun of my life that was the excitement of my life. The funest part of when you're a comedian, a lot of times, is when you're running around open mics, not knowing what will happen. And you have all these people and you're all on the same level and you're all running around eating slices of pizza and you're all broke and you're all trying to figure out how to be
Starting point is 00:54:50 a comedian. Not to say that you don't find fun throughout your career. You do. But it changes. There's more pressure. There are expectations. Sacrifices are greater. They're more real.
Starting point is 00:55:01 In the very beginning, you sacrifice. almost nothing. You're, you know, the expectations are very low. You're having a lot of fun. I think in Putin's world when he was a spy and he didn't know that the future of Russia is resting on his shoulders and his mind, he had a lot more fun.
Starting point is 00:55:18 He was a lot more fun. And you could see that when he goes, they were always our enemies, but a job is a job. He's like they, they, without them, what are we? What are we? What are we?
Starting point is 00:55:31 He has a respect for the enemy. He does not respect media. He does not respect interview. He does not care. In the beginning, he goes, are we having a show? We're going to have a talk. Because if we're going to have a talk, I'm going to talk for 30 minutes. You're going to be bored. Some of your viewers will tune out. I don't care. I don't respect you and I don't respect them because I'm one of the very few people on the planet that has a nuclear arsenal. I respect those people. Just like when he said, I don't speak to Biden, but our agencies talk. We have communication. I, they say to me that nuclear test is not about you. I say the same thing to them. Our agencies talk. They talk. So seeing the kind of light, his eyes lit up only a few times, but during the interview
Starting point is 00:56:20 when he said, yeah, they were always our enemies, but a job's a job, you could tell. And I felt, dare I say, oh no, they're coming for me now. dare I say I felt a little sorry for him because he's locked away in that palace he's locked away in the palace and he's basically got in his mind the history of the Russian state on his shoulders you know and it's not that much fun probably he's not having that much fun and then for that second he remembered you know back when it was fun me and the guys people are trying to kill us we're trying to kill them we're trying to turn assets they're trying to turn us
Starting point is 00:57:12 it's a deadly game but it's their game you know it's their game and he goes yeah jobs a job he respects that there was something interesting to me about that I'm familiar with his rationale for the Ukraine war I didn't need to know that I'm familiar with that I'm familiar with most of it his history lesson in the beginning obviously came a little bit of a surprise I don't know
Starting point is 00:57:30 all of that. But I kind of know exactly why his worldview. I'm aware of it. But the human moments that dripped out where he goes, yeah, it was a fun. We had fun. You know, a job's a job. They were always our enemy. We were always going against them. Can you find
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Starting point is 01:01:41 What is that supposed to mean? Who do you think you are? I wanted to ask the then U.S. leadership. With the backing of whom? With the backing of CIA, of course. The organization you wanted to join back in the day, as I understand. We should thank God they didn't let you in. Although it is a serious organization.
Starting point is 01:02:08 I understand. My former vis-a-vis in the sense that I served in the first main directorate, Soviet Union's intelligence service. They have always been our opponents. A job is a job. Yeah! Loves it! He goes, but that is a serious organization.
Starting point is 01:02:25 Like what you're doing interviewing me, this ain't it. We don't respect none of this. Let's hear it for everyone in the shadows, folks. the FSB, the CIA, the Stasi, everyone, all of the people in the shadows, murdering, torturing, killing. I know it's a controversial thing to say. Everybody, the IDF Hamas,
Starting point is 01:02:45 everyone in the shadows, in the tunnels, in the dark. I get my, you know, I get people see me, they go, I'm a fan, and that feels so nice, and these guys never hear, they never hear, they never hear that, they never hear that. These intelligence agencies, they never hear
Starting point is 01:03:01 that anyone's a fan of them, they have to kill, maim, torture, in, in, the That is forever. It's not easy. They have this little, you know, group of people. They have this little fraternity of people that respect each other. A job as a job, Vladimir Putin says. A little fraternity of people.
Starting point is 01:03:17 Let's hear it for all of them. Let's hear it for all of them. Let's hear it for all. I don't care if they killed you or your family. Listen, let's just hear a job as a job. That is what we have to remember. And that's what we have to tell Michelle Obama. Maybe Tempest Bledsoe comes out.
Starting point is 01:03:31 I don't know. But it's a spectacle. There's drums, steel drums, is it an island feel, is it a Jamaican field? I don't know. It's got to be cool again. I want to see white people from the Great Lakes region swaying awkwardly to the music. Sway awkwardly to the music. And everybody's clapping.
Starting point is 01:03:54 And Michelle Obama goes, you got a fast car. And together we can get in that car. And everybody's clapping. And Tracy Chapman, and she's got the guitar out. I'm telling you, that's what it is. Because the Democrats need to do their job. A job is a job.
Starting point is 01:04:12 Vladimir Putin just said it. He just fucking said it. I don't know if he even knew how profound that was at the end. But a job is a job. And the Democrats have to do their job. They're not doing their job. They're running a guy that's old and decrepit and he's not fun and it's not a party. And you're running him against a guy that maybe throws the best party in
Starting point is 01:04:33 politics. It's not going to work. If you, if they're going to throw a party in the back of the house in Arizona that looks like a macaroni grill with a turquoise pool and a bunch of fentany vapes, you better throw a fucking rager outside of Boston in a big old Victorian in Hingham, Massachusetts with a bunch of polyamorous lesbos fingering each other in the middle of a circle. And Tracy Chapman has to be playing fast fucking car or you're gonna lose. A job is a job.

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